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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2103786]The Koreans and Japanese are just trying to keep the girls in their bars from being stretched out by somewhat larger Western penises. They complain about the girls not being tight after being pounded by Western mongers. The girls are ruined forever unless they have the money to go to one of those vaginal tightening and restoration clinics to get tuned up. The cost runs approximately 45 K to 60 K pesos not including the lost income over the 1-3 month recovery period that requires abstinence from sexual activity.[/QUOTE]Some posts back I suggested that constant pounding stretches the pussy but some mongers stated that that is a fallacy and vaginas can remain tight even after continuous sex for years. I suspect they are opposed to the attitude of the Koreans and Japanese.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2103996]Some posts back I suggested that constant pounding stretches the pussy but some mongers stated that that is a fallacy and vaginas can remain tight even after continuous sex for years. I suspect they are opposed to the attitude of the Koreans and Japanese.[/QUOTE]The girls I know with the tightest pussies have the most sex. Having kids on the other hand not good.

[QUOTE=Falcon95;2103962]I barfined a girl at Yakusoku bar recently. Actually, I didn't choose her. She chose me, which turned out to be a bad idea in this case. She agreed to stay until lunchtime the next day. At the hotel after shower, she says she wants to fuck just one time in the morning. Then what are we going to do until morning? Just sleep? I can do that alone. So I tell her I want one fuck now and another fuck in the morning. Then she says two fucks she wants tip. 200 pesos was the amount she stated. I said OK. Then she goes, "Oh, I not happy. " WTF. 200 pesos was what she wanted. So I tell her to get dressed and take her back to Yakusoku. This is where I forgot about the fact that it is more likely to get hit by a lightning than to receive a refund in the Phils. Of course, the mamasan, who was so friendly and all smiles before, turns into a dragon when I ask for a refund. "The manager not here. " I say I'll come back the next day. "The manager also not here tomorrow. " So they have a manager who never shows up to work. They offer to give me another girl. I probably should have told them to keep the 3,000 pesos and shove it up their asses. But somehow I ended up going back to the hotel with a tattooed deaf Filipino. I kid you not. After one lousy fuck, we both fell asleep. I didn't want to fuck her. I wanted my money back. In the morning, she motioned she was hungry so I ordered room service for her. Then she went back to sleep after smoking in the bathroom using the floor as an ashtray. She woke up around 2 pm. Now, you couldn't make this up. She can't speak but she knows how to demand a 2,000 peso tip using her hands. I give her a dirty look. Then she signals 1,000 pesos this time. I open the door and tell her to leave. She wouldn't leave. Then she pulls out her purse from her handbag and shows me her empty wallet. I don't care for this. Maybe she had to do this because she was deaf. But I still don't care for it. Maybe her purse is empty because she spent all her money on cigarettes and dying her hair. Now I'm thinking the first girl wouldn't have been half as bad. That girl wasn't expecting a tip for one fuck. This deaf girl was demanding a 2,000 peso tip for one fuck. It took me half an hour to get her to leave. I think she wanted to come to my hotel another day bypassing the bar and keep all the 3,000 pesos to herself. That's what she signaled. A three and three zeros and pointed to herself. But shouldn't that benefit both parties and not just her? So there's my Yakusoku story. Any comments or advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Your post and the fact you have not paid the $20 membership, tells me everything about you. No wonder the girls prefer Koreans, LOL.

In 43 yrs I have never, repeat never, experienced anything like you experienced. You should head for hard core sex destinations, of which Philippines is not one.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2103996]Some posts back I suggested that constant pounding stretches the pussy but some mongers stated that that is a fallacy and vaginas can remain tight even after continuous sex for years. I suspect they are opposed to the attitude of the Koreans and Japanese.[/QUOTE]What I heard is Koreans and Japanese are not so much afraid of vagina stretch but afraid of the girls getting infected with STD when the girl gets pounded raw by westerners. For some reason they think they are clean as a whistle when they pound everybody in sight raw. Knowing philippino girls like raw sex with everyone it is amazing.

I am not an expert if vagina stretch happens by constant pounding by large member. Child birth definitely does. I believe it is genetics. Some stay tight and some others not so. I met one AC bargirl who said she exclusively fucks Korean only had loose vagina. Besides what I heard is Asians liked to drink a lot, smoke a lot before they ever gets to fuck spinners they barfine. 3=3=3 might be redundant then.

[QUOTE=Falcon95;2103962]I barfined a girl at Yakusoku bar recently. Actually, I didn't choose her. She chose me, which turned out to be a bad idea in this case. She agreed to stay until lunchtime the next day. At the hotel after shower, she says she wants to fuck just one time in the morning. Then what are we going to do until morning? Just sleep? I can do that alone. So I tell her I want one fuck now and another fuck in the morning. Then she says two fucks she wants tip. 200 pesos was the amount she stated. I said OK. Then she goes, "Oh, I not happy. " WTF. 200 pesos was what she wanted. So I tell her to get dressed and take her back to Yakusoku. This is where I forgot about the fact that it is more likely to get hit by a lightning than to receive a refund in the Phils. Of course, the mamasan, who was so friendly and all smiles before, turns into a dragon when I ask for a refund. "The manager not here. " I say I'll come back the next day. "The manager also not here tomorrow. " So they have a manager who never shows up to work. They offer to give me another girl. I probably should have told them to keep the 3,000 pesos and shove it up their asses. But somehow I ended up going back to the hotel with a tattooed deaf Filipino. I kid you not. After one lousy fuck, we both fell asleep. I didn't want to fuck her. I wanted my money back. In the morning, she motioned she was hungry so I ordered room service for her. Then she went back to sleep after smoking in the bathroom using the floor as an ashtray. She woke up around 2 pm. Now, you couldn't make this up. She can't speak but she knows how to demand a 2,000 peso tip using her hands. I give her a dirty look. Then she signals 1,000 pesos this time. I open the door and tell her to leave. She wouldn't leave. Then she pulls out her purse from her handbag and shows me her empty wallet. I don't care for this. Maybe she had to do this because she was deaf. But I still don't care for it. Maybe her purse is empty because she spent all her money on cigarettes and dying her hair. Now I'm thinking the first girl wouldn't have been half as bad. That girl wasn't expecting a tip for one fuck. This deaf girl was demanding a 2,000 peso tip for one fuck. It took me half an hour to get her to leave. I think she wanted to come to my hotel another day bypassing the bar and keep all the 3,000 pesos to herself. That's what she signaled. A three and three zeros and pointed to herself. But shouldn't that benefit both parties and not just her? So there's my Yakusoku story. Any comments or advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Forget about it and move on is my advice.

[QUOTE=Zman429;2103939]Is Trump coming to Angeles or Clark? I can find nothing about it just Manila.[/QUOTE]Trump and mostly all others are landing in Clark. Trump will helicopter to Manila and back. All others wil travel by car / motorcade to Manila. NLEX and main roads will be closed down for the motorcades. The rest is top secret.

[QUOTE=Falcon95;2103962]I barfined a girl at Yakusoku bar recently. Actually, I didn't choose her. She chose me, which turned out to be a bad idea in this case. She agreed to stay until lunchtime the next day. At the hotel after shower, she says she wants to fuck just one time in the morning. Then what are we going to do until morning? Just sleep? I can do that alone. So I tell her I want one fuck now and another fuck in the morning. Then she says two fucks she wants tip. 200 pesos was the amount she stated. I said OK. Then she goes, "Oh, I not happy. " WTF. 200 pesos was what she wanted. So I tell her to get dressed and take her back to Yakusoku. This is where I forgot about the fact that it is more likely to get hit by a lightning than to receive a refund in the Phils. Of course, the mamasan, who was so friendly and all smiles before, turns into a dragon when I ask for a refund. "The manager not here. " I say I'll come back the next day. "The manager also not here tomorrow. " So they have a manager who never shows up to work. They offer to give me another girl. I probably should have told them to keep the 3,000 pesos and shove it up their asses. But somehow I ended up going back to the hotel with a tattooed deaf Filipino. I kid you not. After one lousy fuck, we both fell asleep. I didn't want to fuck her. I wanted my money back. In the morning, she motioned she was hungry so I ordered room service for her. Then she went back to sleep after smoking in the bathroom using the floor as an ashtray. She woke up around 2 pm. Now, you couldn't make this up. She can't speak but she knows how to demand a 2,000 peso tip using her hands. I give her a dirty look..[/QUOTE]Well, you did not tell the girl you were expecting two fucks before you left the bar. You told her that you wanted her to stay until lunchtime the following day and she agreed to those terms. From your report, you never discussed fucking before leaving the bar. The girl naturally assumed that you wanted company and fucking was not a priority. Since, you did not seem to be a horny man she was willing to give you one good fuck in the morning after you both had a good night of sleep. When you told her that you were a horny man and wanted to drill her twice, she offered to accommodate you for 200 pesos. She said that she was not happy but she did not refuse to fuck you twice under the new agreement. You set a very long time for the girl to remain with you but then you complained about the length of time she would be there without fucking. Of course, she was not happy as you blew your stack over how many times you were going to blow your load in her pussy instead of reassuring her that you were going to be fair and do your best to make sure you both had an enjoyable experience. You could have told her that you were willing to tip 200 pesos each time she made you blow a nut between that night and lunchtime the following day. Then you would be on here complaining about how much jizz she drained out of your balls trying to earn 1,000 pesos in tips. LOL!

However, you pouted and threw your rattle out of the pram deciding to go back to the bar. You gave the girl the impression that you wanted GFE but in the room, you turned into a hardcore monger only concerned about keeping her busy fucking as long as she was in the room. She was not thrilled at the idea of being pounded all night after realizing that she chose a fella with a volatile temper. If you showed up at the bar trembling with rage, then the mama would have reacted negatively towards that. The bar cannot make the girl fuck you because you paid bar fine. The mama tried to help you out by giving you another girl. She figured a deaf mute would suit your needs as you could fuck her as many times as you wanted without making any complaints. Yet, you only fucked her once, pouted that it was a lousy fuck and rolled over to sleep. So, you went through all the trouble of returning the first girl without fucking her because you wanted multiple fucks and you still fucked once. You did not enjoy fucking the deaf mute because you were still pouting over the bar not refunding your 3,000 pesos. LOL! The mama saw that you were a very difficult customer to please. Perhaps, short time bars are more your style. You can fuck the girls twice or whatever and let them go. Then you can sleep alone and not worry about them sleeping instead of fucking. Long-time GFE implies that you will give the girl BFE in return; otherwise, she will be miserable spending several hours with you.

Instead of giving the deaf mute an overpriced room service meal in the morning, you should have given her whatever that meal cost as a tip and sent her home. The time she spends with you has value besides the number of fucks you get out of her. Fucking a handicapped girl and sending her off with an empty wallet is a bit mean. LOL! She was willing to give you as many fucks as you felt entitled to but you did not want to fuck her. You wanted to sleep and dwell on the 3,000 pesos. In all fairness, what happened with the first girl was not her fault. All that rage over not getting two fucks and a 200-peso tip will only make the girls prefer Koreans more because they tip the girls even when they do not fuck them as they recognize time has value. At least you did not send the handicap girl home both hungry and penniless after you fucked her.

Manila is better for hardcore mongers. The girls there will do ST with the tip decided in advance and you have 2 hours to get in your two fucks before they leave.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2104457]snip...

You gave the girl the impression that you wanted GFE but in the room, you turned into a hardcore monger only concerned about keeping her busy fucking as long as she was in the room.

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Long-time GFE implies that you will give the girl BFE in return; otherwise, she will be miserable spending several hours with you.

snip...[/QUOTE]Chocha Monger, excellent analysis and excellent advice! With all the price policing and continuous bickering about excessive tipping going on at this forum, it is easy to loose sight of an obvious fact: GFE is a two way street.

I'm all for being price conscious and this forum does excellent work in educating mongers about current level of expected contributions. On the other hand, on Thailand thread there was a discussion about culture in certain bars: in stead of learning to give great service ladies are encouraged to try to milk every last baht (or peso) from the unsuspecting mongerer. Maybe it's time pay attention also to what kind of mongering culture we promote on this site or thread. Being fair or even generous within ones means is certainly part of this two way street.

But, to be fair, I have some friends who get a hard-on from getting an exceptional bargain, be it a lawnmower or a WG. I, on the other hand, am a know Captain Save-A-Hoe. Whatever floats ones goat.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2103787]I will be traveling to AC on Sunday the 12th from Makati. Last time I went by bus. Is anyone else going that day? And could we share a taxi? Related to that does anyone want to recommend and share driver contact info by PM?

C4 T.[/QUOTE]When considering The Asean Summit and a 3 day holiday for Filipinos, it turns out that I stressed on this for nothing. My original idea that Sunday would make for an easy trip was true. I ended up on The Victory Liner for about 130 pesos. It took 90 minutes from the time we left. I did make inquiries about a taxi ride and was quoted 2,800 on 3 separate occasions. If anyone is familiar with Mr. T's taxi operation between Pattaya and Bangkok, this looks like a good business opportunity here. Not that I am interested in a good business opportunity anywhere.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2105148] I ended up on The Victory Liner for about 130 pesos. It took 90 minutes from the time we left. [/QUOTE]You can pay 20 times that for a taxi and you won't get better service. Plus you will have the rich experience of local color. Who knows you might be seated next to a SYT returning to work with whom you can start a relationship.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2104100]Forget about it and move on is my advice.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Falcon95;2103962]she wants tip. 200 pesos was the amount she stated. I said OK. Then she goes, "Oh, I not happy. " WTF. 200 pesos was what she wanted.[/QUOTE]I second the move on advise. Don't let it spoil your time. You got a replacement, which is more than I would have bothered with. WGs will deliver better service if in a better mind set. If the mood sours and changes, move on.

More places around the world are adopting the US custom of demanding tips, regardless of service.

[QUOTE=Pompetus;2103791]Jump into any taxi (that is moving as opposed to one that hangs out at a hotel waiting for a tourist customer) and offer 2000 pesos to your hotel in AC. He pays tolls. Sell him on the idea that he can find customers on the way back at the Dau bus terminal. Always works for me except that I usually only offer 1500.[/QUOTE]Been there, done that. However I have usually paid 2000.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2105148]My original idea that Sunday would make for an easy trip was true.[/QUOTE]That is always a good idea. Sunday doesn't have rush hour. It is especially smart to leave on a Sunday if you go from Angeles to the airport. I've heard of people leaving 5 hours early on the weekday and still missing their flight.

[QUOTE=Pompetus;2105163]You can pay 20 times that for a taxi and you won't get better service.[/QUOTE]But it is easier and less stressful if you take a private taxi. If you take the bus, you have to walk around with your luggage in the humidity. The taxi will be waiting for you and will deliver you to the front door of your hotel.

You still have to account for the additional time and cost. You have to take a taxi to the terminal. You have to wait for the bus to leave. You have to take the trike from Dau terminal to your hotel. So I guess another 180 pesos and another hour.

Also, I'm a little paranoid. I'm the most vulnerable when I'm traveling to my hotel. I'm carrying all 3 sets of my ATM / credit cards, all my cash, all my IDs, and all my electronics.

I'm on a moderate budget, but I normally will pay the extra 2490 pesos (2800 - 130 - 100 - 80).

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2105148]When considering The Asean Summit and a 3 day holiday for Filipinos, it turns out that I stressed on this for nothing. My original idea that Sunday would make for an easy trip was true. I ended up on The Victory Liner for about 130 pesos. It took 90 minutes from the time we left. I did make inquiries about a taxi ride and was quoted 2,800 on 3 separate occasions. If anyone is familiar with Mr. T's taxi operation between Pattaya and Bangkok, this looks like a good business opportunity here. Not that I am interested in a good business opportunity anywhere.[/QUOTE]Great you had an easy time going there. By the ticket price I will assume you went by bus from Dau to Cubao bus station near Quezon City. The NLEX has been expanded to 3 lanes each way and has helped with the traffic. Most of the traffic delays are after Cubao, like going to Pasay and NAIA. This part of the route was probably pretty smooth on that day too as most people have been warned to stay off the roads.

If you went from Dau to Pasay in 90 minutes then you really did well.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2105340] ..........Sunday doesn't have rush hour. It is especially smart to leave on a Sunday if you go from Angeles to the airport. I'.............[/QUOTE]Sunday, two weeks ago, Angeles to Terminal 3 Airport, sedan car ex Kokomo's travel office, took 3 hours. Bumper to bumper traffic once in Manila.

Thought it would take 2 hours, on a Sunday. Lucky I allowed 3 hours. Sunday can be a problem too. ABC helicopter lads. If its good enough for Trump, its good enough for you too, LOL.