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[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076614]Right now I have $4000 dollars cash; $7500 dollars on my schwab debit; 5000 Reals cash. I hope that will be enough or I have to put it on the card. LOL.[/QUOTE]Bro that's going to be more than enough. You can go buck wild with that amount of money provided you can find enough girls that you like, and depending on what kind of stamina you have. That's enough and then some!
[QUOTE=Tochka;3076583]What's your exit plan?
As I've said before, most guys spend more time figuring out how to get a garota into their hotel or Airbnb than they do figuring out how to get her out.
I picked up a hottie, we agreed on the termsboth verbally and over WhatsAppand everything seemed good.
I went back to my nice hotel. Or snuck her into my Airbnb. An hour or two later. Boom. Her personality changed. Suddenly she wanted to leave early. Then she wanted more money. I've had girls smoke in my hotel bathroom, leaving me with a $250 USD cleaning fee at checkout. I've had one run into the hallway crying where everything was on security cameras. I've had enough things go sideways with unvetted garotas that I don't put myself in those situations anymore.
I've also caught girls from whiskerias and some of the lower-end termas trying to go through my pants pockets while I was distracted. None of this is hypothetical. It's happened to me in the Dominican Republic, Panama, and Brazil. If you don't speak Brazilian Portugueseor understand the slangyou've got another layer of headaches.
That's why, when I'm seeing someone new, I usually vet her on-site or keep the party going at Scandallo or Gauguin before heading to a love motel like Lush, Colonial, Crush, or Panda in Rio. We drink, smoke, have another drink, swim, order food, relax, jacuzzi, heated pool, large showers for threesomes and enjoy multiple sessions over several hours and breakfast in bed next day. Swing motel, Crush, Panda motel in Rio, we drink smoke, drink again, marola with ice, swim, party, order food, more sessions, sex dresses with wild fantasies the garotas love, sex toys, whips, chains, blowjob masks, double vibrators, deep throat sprays, lesbian sex toys, whatever fucking fantasy sex swings you want to try is available in love motels.
None of the garotas can leave until reception verifies I am alive to pay. Kkk.
One thing I really like about love motels is that the garota can't simply walk out without reception confirming I'm okay and available to settle the bill. The staff deals with jealous spouses, arguments, disagreements, and drama all the time. That gives me a lot more peace of mind vetting first time garota. Someone I barely know back to my hotel or Airbnb.
I'm not telling anyone what to do.plenty guys bring garotas to girl friendly hotels & airbnb all the time. i have done it too.. I'm just sharing what I've experienced over the years with unvetted brasilian garotas become Unfriendly.. Everyone has to decide their own comfort level. My point is simple: have an exit plan to deal with a lying cheating garota is in your place, ready to cause a mess. just think ahead about garota exit plan.
i had major disagreement with garota at Lumnina spa in moema. my plan to deal with garotas in Moemas spas & clinica worked well.. today there was client garota LOUD disagreement in Miruna.[/QUOTE]So the room are like around 200-500 depending of how long you stay + all the extra or it have included stuff with the room? Can you share some details about the cost for a a night of party with 1-2 girls in a room like this? (excluding the girls paiement of course).
SP Day 2.
Left hotel around 11 am to visit Parque Ecologico do Tiete to see capybaras. Decided to take some cash from Bradesco ATM for the final Night Of Frantic Madness. "Fvck you!" said Bradesco by being closed at Saturday. Long story short, after searching for hours for an open branch all over the centro, I took subway to Moema.
Short review on how to get cash Saturday noon in Sao Paulo:
- Santander just spit my card out.
- Itau doesn't do withdrawals from international cards.
- Caixa is closed everywhere, including Caixa 24 horas branches.
- Bradesco is closed everywhere.
- managed to find Banco 24 Horas ATM at Ibirapuera Mall. It did not accept my correct PIN (it has 5 digits), and after 3rd try refused to work with my card.
I finally managed to find an open Bradesco branch in Moema Av. Ibirapuera, 2220. But it got info from banco 24 horas network and informed me that I wasted my attempts to enter PIN. Correct PIN god dammit!
I have 1200 rs in cash, it will be enough for daytime action in clinicas and one pop in Casarao at night. This is a sad story about how stupid Bradesco bank cockblocked my final day fun at Scandallo, and also did not let me see capybaras. Fortunately yesterday I became one of you, Scandallo and Casarao connaisseurs, and boy do I have things to report (in next post). No, I will not use my credit card to pay 2500+rs expenses in Scandallo.
Frustrated by this fail, I ate at nice and cheap buffet a kilo Tchan Moema. Then hit Moah spa. Bored indifferent receptionist, three average non-enthusiastic garotas. Prices listed are 180 rs for 30 min, 210 rs for 1 hour, 350 rs for "4 maos".
Went to Miruna Spa and hit jackpot. First two garotas were very lovely. Not that young, but welcoming, sexy and smiling. Nicknames Stefanie and Thalia, white teeth, body curves, natural hair, seductive eyes. All went very good, 1 hour of DFK, BBBJ two mouths, massage 4 hands, changing positions etc. Actually the best clinica / prive experience for this trip.
400 reais. All this only for 400 reais, goddammit! I started to forget that such level of service for such price exists!
Additional info: Stefanie has okayish boobjob in terms of look, but it is hard as concrete inside. Very strange. She also is not that flexible or bendable. Thalia is a little bit older in looks, but compensate it with enthusiasm. Asked +300 rs for anal.
Looks like we were in the same casa today with comrade Tochka. Did not hear any arguments or scandals, though.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3076380]I've only ever used uber, 99 (didi's Brazil affiliate), and indrive for GRU airport transfers to Moema. I usually arrive at the morning rush hour so the ride lasts 90 minutes or more. Uber charges US $20 to US $25,99 charges US $15 to US $20. Indrive is the cheapest at US $7 to US $10. I had no idea the taxis cost that much. I'm going to continue to avoid them.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. I have always used Uber in the past, but on my last arrival at GRU, T-Mobil International had not kicked in yet, so my choice was to wait around outside the terminal an indefinite amount of time or take advantage of the immediate taxi service. I chose the latter. Incidentally my Samsung G2025+ did kick into local operation around 10 minutes into my ride. I am glad I did what I did. I do not like to wait for anything especially after an 8-hour "red-eye flight"! KKK.
[QUOTE=Bliadun;3076618]Mouths and other holes are not included?[/QUOTE]In brasil 4 hands is a euphemism it does not mean using only hands.
I wasn't shy during the clinica lineup to ask the garotas directly during the presentation if they offered anal or not.
I've have done 4 hands duplo sessions with Larinha Smalls and Ariella Ferraz. You can find their adult videos on the usual porno video sites. I sessioned with both of them together, duplo, at CLnica Tangara for $350 brl and Spa Moah $350 brl and took video fotos with their permission. Occasionally Ariel is at Prime. Ariel & Karen duplo at Prime was mind bending.
Larinha & Ariel are willing to accommodate a wide range of requests. . all three holes available plus they do weird, fetish stuff, piss, swallow & facial piss sharing, cum facials snow balling, cum sharing, anal cum licking, cum anal licking. they are up for any fetish including vomiting on your pecker for dudes into that. Kkk.
I always ask them how they prepare for their porno scenes to have three big black schlongs shoved up their tiny asses kkk and to give me a referral & intro to the next new porno garota in their network.
Larinha has recovered from having a little one and back in the porno & clinica business.
For fellow gringos, $350 has been the duplo price I've paid at both Tangara , Miruna and Spa Moah with confirmed forista discount. But I started at a much higher rate until I got to know the receptionist and they tracked my consistent reviews on gp-guia and I figured out how stuff works in clinicas.
One thing I've noticed: if you don't speak Portuguese and you're not known to the receptionist staff, don't be surprised if you're quoted a higher price. I've personally seen a foreign guy at reception get quoted are $100 to 200 brl more than what I paid for the same duplo session. I think Clinica Yankin & Spa Moah post their duplo prices on the wall. when paying in cash i ask reception to write the amount paid in cash on a receipt. or confirm by wassap message.. sometimes i pay half credit card half cash. sometimes the receptionist gives me the right pricing info when i arrive , but after two hour marathon duplo session there is a different person when checking out, and the their maths is mathing. so sometime pricing can vary .. so double check pricing & discounts. Prime is famous for saying to guys there is different pricing for duplos on weekend vs weekdays,
Check GP Guia reports to know which garotas does anal. Some garotas do not engage in 4 hands session, best to ask receptionist. I'the love to see a presentation lineup like the bar in Sukhumvit, Bangkok, run by the french guy. Garotas stand one side of the white line that offered anal, the other side of the line for garotas who don't. It would save everyone time.
To avoid misunderstandings, I usually tip are $50 to each garota for duplo anal sessions. No, you don't have to tip for anal at a CLnicas. Nor do you need to tip at all. I do it for personal reasons only. It has helped me get the trusted intro me to other younger, attractive garotas in their network through Instagram or WhatsApp that do anal & other stuff but don't work in clinicas, have a day job and prefer to quietly meet clients at love motels.
I have met young discreet 19-21 year old exotic Brazilian- Asian garotas that way. They are hyper protective of their privacy, do not advertise any where, only meet by trusted referrals, and only meet in love motels but are damn freaky in bed, lasting all night & breakfast, to the point of exhaustion, two young energetic exotic looking garotas exploring every inch, uninhibited with all holes available. For 800 brl each 4 hands special.
1. I'm thinking about staying at Intercontinental Hotel on Paulista Ave? Has anybody stayed there? Any issues with girls etc?
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/jgMEiieJqwZkjDgS8[/URL]
2. Has anybody had any issues with using their verizon Phone in Sao Paulo?
Cheers!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3076690]Fair enough. I have always used Uber in the past, but on my last arrival at GRU, T-Mobil International had not kicked in yet, so my choice was to wait around outside the terminal an indefinite amount of time or take advantage of the immediate taxi service. I chose the latter. Incidentally my Samsung G2025+ did kick into local operation around 10 minutes into my ride. I am glad I did what I did. I do not like to wait for anything especially after an 8-hour "red-eye flight"! KKK.[/QUOTE]GRU has free wifi that you can connect to as soon as you land, and it works well in the Uber waiting area. I took a taxi only once in SP and the driver ripped me off by charging 35% above the meter reading. I should have been suspicious when he insisted that I use a credit card to pay. He secretly entered a higher number on the CC machine. By the time I realized, he was long gone. Granted it was only USD 12 extra, but still leaves you dejected.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3076728]In brasil 4 hands is a euphemism it does not mean using only hands.
I wasn't shy during the clinica lineup to ask the garotas directly during the presentation if they offered anal or not.
I've have done 4 hands duplo sessions with Larinha Smalls and Ariella Ferraz. You can find their adult videos on the usual porno video sites. I sessioned with both of them together, duplo, at CLnica Tangara for $350 brl and Spa Moah $350 brl and took video fotos with their permission. Occasionally Ariel is at Prime. Ariel & Karen duplo at Prime was mind bending.
[/QUOTE]Man, you are into some adventurous stuff.
I have sessioned with all 3 multiple times (singly, I am never a fan of 4 hands). The best BJ and PSE goes to Areilla, one of the few who can hold her own as a deep throater. Best GFE goes to Karen, one of my favorites of all time anywhere in the world, and it's amazing she still has the body of a teenager. Larinha tends to be more tame, but can take serious pounding.
[QUOTE=Kib123;3076757]GRU has free wifi that you can connect to as soon as you land, and it works well in the Uber waiting area. I took a taxi only once in SP and the driver ripped me off by charging 35% above the meter reading. I should have been suspicious when he insisted that I use a credit card to pay. He secretly entered a higher number on the CC machine. By the time I realized, he was long gone. Granted it was only USD 12 extra, but still leaves you dejected.[/QUOTE]I am aware of free airport wifi, but I am very reluctant to use it let alone make a financial transaction over it.
The taxi company I used, GUARUCOOP taxis, has a kiosk stand to the right of the terminal's front door and the clerk there quoted the price to my destination which I paid for with my CC before I got into the waiting taxi. I knew I was paying more than an Uber, but I did not care. The convenience of not waiting for T-mobile was worth it to me plus there was no opportunity for an unscrupulous independent taxi driver to clip me. You should have contacted your CC company and flagged the charge. At the very least they would have credited your account the 12 bucks and there is a good probability the whole charge would have been removed. CC's give the consumer a hell of a lot of power.
On that score, I was notified by one of my CC companies on my 3nd week in town of what looked like to them, a fraudulent charge. I had used my card several times in the previous weeks to buy wine at my favorite wine store, Grand Cru. But this charge for $600 was way above my usual charge for 2 bottles of quality Argentinian red wine at the store. My CC company flagged the transaction, I confirmed that the charge was not right, they removed the charge, froze that particular CC account, and sent a new card with a new account number to my home address. I put the frozen CC in my luggage never to be used again, and I whipped out a different CC like the whole thing never happened. And I continued to shop for wine at Grand Cru without any further problems. Never leave home with only one CC!
[QUOTE=Kib123;3076760]Man, you are into some adventurous stuff.
I have sessioned with all 3 multiple times (singly, I am never a fan of 4 hands). The best BJ and PSE goes to Areilla, one of the few who can hold her own as a deep throater. Best GFE goes to Karen, one of my favorites of all time anywhere in the world, and it's amazing she still has the body of a teenager. Larinha tends to be more tame, but can take serious pounding.[/QUOTE]You mean this clinic? [URL]https://clinicatangara.com.br/terapeutas/[/URL].
I searched on their website and on their whatsapp, but I can't find girls with the working name Areilla, Karen and Larinha.
[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;3076035]So for take outs in these places you also pay them afterwards. ? I got curated by a Casarao working girl she left very early for a toda la noite.[/QUOTE]Always pay after. Doesn't matter if it is in house or takeout. If they are adamant about getting aid up front, I propose a 50/50 payment — upon arrival into the room and then afterwards. If she still refuses, dump her. She will be a shitshow in the room.
All the girls I have been with from Scandello have been paid after. One asked for payment before we started in house and I just got up, started to put my pants on and told her that I am cancelling the session. She said she needs to be paid and I said I would pay her once we talk to the manage downstairs and let him figure it out. That ended the argument right there and she said she "trusts" me to pay her after. She did a solid job and I ended up taking her for the night since she offered her ass to me later.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076740]1. I'm thinking about staying at Intercontinental Hotel on Paulista Ave? Has anybody stayed there? Any issues with girls etc?[/QUOTE]Hey dude, here is a novel technique: RTFF or if you are too lazy to do that, how about 1) clicking on the Advanced Search button, 2) copy and paste the word, "Intercontinental," into the appropriate window 3) select the country "Brazil. " 4) press "enter" and 5) read my recent posts (there are several) concerning this specific hotel. Happy trails,
Axel.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076740]1. I'm thinking about staying at Intercontinental Hotel on Paulista Ave? Has anybody stayed there? Any issues with girls etc?
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/jgMEiieJqwZkjDgS8[/URL]
2. Has anybody had any issues with using their verizon Phone in Sao Paulo?
Cheers![/QUOTE]If only there were a topic here called "Sao Paulo" hotels.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3077002]If only there were a topic here called "Sao Paulo" hotels.[/QUOTE]Say what?
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4069-Sao-Paulo-Hotels-and-List[/URL]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3077002]If only there were a topic here called "Sao Paulo" hotels.[/QUOTE]Its not up to date about this hotel and no info about more then 1 girl.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076740]1. I'm thinking about staying at Intercontinental Hotel on Paulista Ave? Has anybody stayed there? Any issues with girls etc?
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Cheers![/QUOTE]The most recent post about it said it is, but no one confirmed if its ok for more then 1 girl. The question after this should be: is there any good love hotel near Intercontinental Hotel on Paulista Ave?