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[QUOTE=Engine Driver]I'm a bit concerned about racism in Germany. Could anyone please advise if non-white people who are neatly dressed would have any trouble getting into a FKK. Also, how do the eastern european women in the clubs react to non-white people?[/QUOTE]
No, I wouldn't be concerned about racism in Germany.
Some clubs may not allow you in if you don't look German but they are few and far in between. I can think of only two clubs which openly don't allow non-Germans: FKK Muenster and the FKK club in Dortmund-Alperbeck.
There have been reports of non-Germans being turned away at certain other clubs: Goldentime and Planet Happy Garden being among them.
If you come as a group of Indians or Arabs, etc.. this is more likely to happen than if you came as a single individual.
If a club will allow Turks in, they will allow anyone in. The good news is that most clubs allow Turks.
If you want to reduce the chances of being turned away, you can visit the clubs which target an exclusive Turkish clientele. This list would include Alibaba in Wuppertal (has anyone been there lately?).
If you are clean cut, well groomed and articulate, you should do fine. If you speak fluent German you will do even better. Its all in the impression that you make on the reception staff and fluent [b][i]akzentloses hannoveranisches Hoch Deutsch[/i][/b] always makes a good impression.
In the end, they want your money.
Gaining entry into a club is a different topic with respect to being refused service.
That can happen but its rare.
Understand, however, that there are few blacks, Arabs, Chinese or Indians in Poland, Slovakia, etc.. and therefore EE women do not typically grow up interacting with non-Europeans.
As I've written before: if you are turned down, you should thank your lucky stars because if she hadn't turned you down you would mostly have found out after you had invested time and money in her that she didn't like you for one reason or another, i.e. after you were in the room with her and she gave you really bad service for which she now expected you to pay her.
She just saved you money so you shouldn't take it so negatively.
You can be turned down for other reasons than racism:
1) She's not in a good mood
2) She's already made enough money for the day
3) She'd much rather chat and smoke with her friends
4) She's just about to go home at the end of her shift
5) She is waiting for a Stammkunde
Hey, you are dealing with women and who knows what motivates them and shapes their thinking.
Get out there and enjoy. Bring lots of cash with you and you will be the most popular person in the club.
Oh yes, you don't need to speak German
[QUOTE=Warsteiner]Don't worry about racism or not being able to speak German in FKK clubs. The last time I was in GT (Feb) there were a group of black and white Dutch people and there weren't any problems. I know that Turkish clients frequent the Frankfurt clubs and I have seen Asian men in PHG, GT and Samya so don't sweat it, just concentrate on having a good time.[/QUOTE]
The languages which would get you the most mileage at a club (at least as far as speaking to the women are concerned) are actually Polish, Russian, Turkish and Romanian.
Polish has been on my wishlist for a while now.
If you have a thing for German women though (such as I do), you need to speak German.
NRW clubs and the underworld
This is from Express.de about the Razzien which took place at the end of April.
Translation to follow.
[quote=express.de]BRUTALE BANDEN
Düsseldorf im Griff der Mafia
Von GÜNTHER CLASSEN
So berichtete EXPRESS über die Razzia gegen Schuldeneintreiber.
Düsseldorf – Mafia-Gangster sichern sich immer mehr „Geschäftsfelder“ in der Stadt: Schutzgeld, Menschenhandel, verbotenes Glücksspiel, Geldwäsche. Selten fliegen sie auf wie am Mittwoch, als eine türkische Schuldeneintreiber-Bande dingfest gemacht wurde (EXPRESS berichtete).
Aber auch organisierte Banden aus Polen, Russland und der Ukraine machen sich breit. Polizei und Steuerfahndung schlugen jetzt wieder zu, durchsuchten zwei Sauna-Clubs im Großraum Düsseldorf. Ein Experte des Bundeskriminalamtes für organisierte Kriminalität (OK) zum EXPRESS.
„Düsseldorf ist aus unserer Sicht in NRW die große Drehscheibe für das bandenmäßig organisierte Verbrechen. Neben Ablegern der italienischen Mafia nisten sich in Düsseldorf jetzt zunehmend osteuropäische und libanesische Banden ein.“
Der in Düsseldorf laufende Prozess wegen Schutzgelderpressung und die Razzia am Mittwoch gegen Schuldeneintreiber bilden nur die Spitze des Eisbergs. Die Gangster schrecken vor nichts zurück. Opfer und Hinweisgeber fürchten um ihr Leben, stehen unter Zeugenschutz. Unzählige Telefone werden abgehört.
Ein früherer Düsseldorfer OK-Ermittler: „Die Gangster sind besser organisiert und ausgerüstet als die Kripo. Es fehlt der Polizei an Personal und Technik. Eine Seuche derzeit: Ausländerämter werden zum Zwecke der Einschleusung von Prostituierten aus dem Osten systematisch mit Scheinehen überlistet. Es besteht ein enormes Handlungsdefizit. Die Polizei wird erschlagen von bandenmäßig organisierten Verbrechen, die sie kaum noch effektiv verfolgen kann.“
Für das Jahr 2006 liegen noch keine offiziellen Zahlen vor. EXPRESS erfuhr jedoch: Sie steigen an. Im letzten Jahr gab es in NRW rund 80 OK-Ermittlungsverfahren und weit über 4.000 Straftaten mit internationalen Verzweigungen. Es geht um eine Gesamtsumme von rund 250 Millionen Euro.
Zu den Razzien in den Saunaclubs wollten die Steuerfahnder am Donnerstag keine Erklärung abgeben: „Steuergeheimnis!“ Die Aktion war so geheim, dass die an der Razzia beteiligte Düsseldorfer Polizei in Mannschaftswagen anrückte und Mühe hatte, sich zu verstecken.
Im Bereich mancher Clubs blüht der Steuerbetrug und der Menschenhandel aus dem Osten. Viele sind untereinander „vernetzt“ mit einem Alarmierungssystem. Die Razzia lief an, und schon wussten alle anderen Clubs in der Gegend Bescheid... [/quote]
Fazit: to follow.
The hotel dude at Hotel Haus Schuermann...
[QUOTE=Breadman]Partytreff Dorsten was also reported to be working on opening a new partytreff club...but ive yet to see or hear anything about it[/QUOTE]
.. said the same thing when we were there in Feb and I've not read or heard of any developments in this regard either. He (the hotel dude) did say it would be in Muenster and it was going to be named "Anastasia" or something like that.
It would take the pressure off the current team at PT Dorsten when the new club did open.
The owner would have to find more girls from Poznan to stock the new PT. Maybe this is the bottleneck.
I would venture to say that there is pent up demand for a good PT down in Hessen though. Anyone opening one up there would profit from all of the [b][i]Touris[/i][/b] who would make a beeline to it.
