Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[quote=yellow fever #2]...mores of our culture

...sick

...only a little bit less sick than ****philia

...stronger set of mores and decency rules

...fuck and abuse

...anything more is abnormal.

...should know better.

...leaving some screws on the table.

...try some common sense and decency.

...surely, you must mean, perversion.

maybe i'm wrong.[/quote]
yes, i do believe you are.

remember we are talking about adult women of legal age, not babies or children.

we are talking about the most basic of human drives, one that evolution instilled in us as necessary to propagate the species.

and you view it as "sick" and a "perversion."

since you enjoy throwing around these words like "sick," abnormal," "perversion," etc., you have encouraged me to go a little further than i normally would, and say exactly what i think.

now as you said in your post, no offense intended, yellow fever.

but i am appalled that anyone can be so sure of his own extremely narrow-minded opinions, and pass such nasty moral judgments towards others.

you must truly be one sick puppy.

db

[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]Yes, I do believe you are.

Since you enjoy throwing around these words like "sick," abnormal," "perversion," etc., you have encoouraged me to go a little further than I normally would, and say exactly what I think.

Now as you said in your post, no offense intended, Yellow Fever.

But I am appalled that anyone can be so sure of his own extremely narrow-minded opinions, and pass such nasty moral judgments towards others.

You must truly be one sick puppy.

DB[/QUOTE]

I would second (and third) the comment here about YF's comments. Appalling and very narrow minded - other words spring to mind but Jackson may consider it flaming ...

GE's perspective is excellent and he has been living in the country for many years and is more knowledgeable than many as he lives there has first hand experience etc

As I have FR before, I have friends happily married with enormous age gaps, I have had girlfriends early 20s and the age gap is over 30 years and everyone (including my friends) were happy (some very jealous and envious :D)

YF - if you have such an aversion to the age gap why are you on a mongers board that mainly focuses on guys shagging younger nubile girls....maybe Jackson can give you a thread for mongers who like to shag girls their own age (or fuglies as some members have put it). Am sure you have lots of contributors (from yourself).

Age is unimportant if you have feelings and everyone is happy, NR was bold enough to state his feelings and predicament in public and that takes some guts, he should be applauded for that. If he and his lady are comfortable then fine...he is not breaking the law

Perhaps whereever you are based you dont get an opportunity to be with nubile girls in the late teens early 20s, and are jealous....maybe you should change your handle to Green Fever instead ...

I completely agree with DB, GE, and the photo from the X-man.

And I think X illustrates that not only do May-December romances exist in the western world, they are celebrated by the media. Pretty much every aging rock star (Jagger, Richards, McCartney) all have 30-40 year age differences with their girlfriend or wife.

I also like DB's point about how Disney corrupts the young minds with such inane bullshit as Beauty and the Beast, Snowwhite, et. all.

If you have enough money in the west, you can pretty much order your mate.

And do you think the Filipinos are any different? Hell no. My neighbor from my home state is Filipino. Actually is 101 years old (no kidding) and fought in WWII in the Philippines. We had a huge party when he hit 100. His wife you ask? I am guessing she might be 50.

When I first met them years ago, they invited me over for dinner one night and I mistakenly asked if she was his daughter (oops!). No, I am his wife was the reply. Lady doesn't look a day over 50.

Marriage to me in general is an archaic concept, but some people don't like to be alone or out chasing pussy so they accept a life partner and blah, blah, you know the rest.

Marriage for love (I believe) is an even crazier concept. And I think females know this from a very young age. Of course everyone wants to find 'the one' who makes the sun rise and set, but pretty much like Disney movies, I believe those are fairy tales. And don't forget the fairy tale of all time, "Pretty Woman".

Mr. Fever, I have no idea why you would post a report like that. Admonishing fellow mongers on a monger board for chasing young pussy is pissing in the wind. I actually believe the opposite is the case, and anyone north of 60 who can still monger with 18-22 year old filipina should be celebrated. Fuck, my old man is 76 and still out chasing pussy (and catching them too!). Tells me his latest hottie is 51. "She looks good naked Carmex", is what he says.

I can only hope and pray that when I am his age I have half of what he does.

[QUOTE=Carmex]And don't forget the fairy tale of all time, "Pretty Woman"[/QUOTE]Great point, Carmex! Excellent.

It is one of the favorite movies of just about every woman (and little girl) I've ever met.

The guy was about twice her age, and a billionaire.

He offered her $3000 for a week of sex. She fell in love with him, not his money, of course.

The ultimate chic flick is about prostituting oneself out to an wealthy, old, gray-haired man. It's every female's fantasy.

How rich!

Such irony in super moral America, no less.

And as I quote from the movie itself, it was all based on "Cinder-fucking-rella."

DB

And continuing the thread. Literally ust returned one hour ago from a great weekend with a 20 year old student I know.

I'm in mid 50's. When I first met she told me that she gets on better with older men. They understand her better. She looks good with me and looks great in my bed. Shes never asked for a cent. And never made any comment about my age. So for those who don't like the age diffference thing. Enjoy your opinions, but for the rest of us who do. You know just how damn good I'm feeling today.

i am now over fifty, my wife is not interested in sex (well not with me anyway!) so what do i do?

do i just put my cock into retirement? no!! i go looking for pussy.

i've tried my age bracket, i've tried the older market, yes the over sixties. actually quite good fun.

i've tried the foreign eastern european worker in uk market

i've tried the kiev market (very good but often a bit cold)

so its logical to try the younger market and of course pi is the best (imho) dont like thais cos of language problem

as long as the girls are not **** and are happy to get laid then i personally don't have a problem.

i like to think i treat the girls nice, buy them small gifts show them some affection, take them out for meals.

taking them back home is another matter altogether. some guys do others don't.

[QUOTE=Carmex] And I think X illustrates that not only do May-December romances exist in the western world, they are celebrated by the media. Pretty much every aging rock star (Jagger, Richards, McCartney) all have 30-40 year age differences with their girlfriend or wife.[/QUOTE]

And don't forget Demi Moore, Susan Sarandon, Cher, Tina Turner, Goldie Hawn, Madonna, etc. For them the age differences may be only 10 to 20 years, but the same lesson is illustrated.

[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]
And as I quote from the movie itself, it was all based on "Cinder-fucking-rella."

DB[/QUOTE]
Well, actually it was based on George Bernard Shaw's Pygmalion but it does speak to the supposedly universal male fantasy of finding a diamond in the rough and polishing it to our specifications. I guess that's another aspect of the "relationship" issue and, who knows, maybe it's every woman's fantasy to be totally pampered and cared for by a wise, kind, rich older man. If that's true, then the equation balances and each person gets what he/she needs from the relationship. What could be better?
GE

Well, it seems that the storm blow up by the busting of an 18 yr old hymen is still raging. If young girls want to fuck old men for their money they can very well do so. There is no law against that. Some people get riled up at the thought of a geriatric cock penetrating a teenage pussy. This is especially true in America where 18 yr olds can’t even buy alcohol. Most Americans can’t bear the thought of old people fucking. They consider it traumatic to their psyche. For this reason geriatric porn has never found much of a market in the United States. The average life expectancy of an American man is about 75 yrs. So someone in their late sixties can expect to be dead before any kids fathered with an 18 yr old reaches 10 yrs of age. This brings up questions about the ethical nature of leaving behind a 25 yr old widow with children. Would the senior citizen make arrangements for the care of his young family in the event of his death? Some don’t or can’t. I think when people see these cases it turns them against the whole idea of geriatric/teen love.

Then it comes down to the litmus test of fairness. How many of us mongers at 18 yrs of age would have been happy to fuck and suck some 68 yr old chick even if she was a sugar mama and bought us nice things?

In reality, the strong feed upon the weak. That is the basic structure of life on this planet. Being capable of adequately feeding, clothing and sheltering ourselves, or having parents who provided for us, meant that we didn’t have to lick geriatric pussies to survive. Had we been living in grinding poverty like the Mandinka boys in Gambia we’d have dined on, nay, feasted on that 68 yr old pussy in all probability to secure a few days of food. When you live in poverty it is not about what you’d like to do sometimes, it’s about what you have to do to make it through to the next day. Perhaps, those of us visiting or taking up residence in the Third World need to keep this in mind.

Hollywood celebrities are hardly representative of the norm in American society. They have shown themselves to be above the law and common standards of conduct time and time again. The average citizen can’t get away with what a celebrity can. In any case, do we really want to emulate those people? Not to mention that we can hardly compare the lives of Hollywood actresses who have an Electra complex to the lives of impoverished Filipinas living on less than 2 USD/day. If geriatric mongers want to fuck women half a century younger they can do so without having to justify it to anyone. They’re not accountable to anyone on this board. So we don’t have to candy coat anything. It is what it is.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]

Then it comes down to the litmus test of fairness. How many of us mongers at 18 yrs of age would have been happy to fuck and suck some 68 yr old chick even if she was a sugar mama and bought us nice things? [/QUOTE]

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I called a prominent PI board member on this when he basically said us young mongers suck and the girls prefer the older guys. I said the same thing you said only in a nicer way :)

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]

I guess that's another aspect of the "relationship" issue and, who knows, maybe it's every woman's fantasy to be totally pampered and cared for by a wise, kind, rich older man.

If that's true, then the equation balances and each person gets what he/she needs from the relationship. What could be better?
GE[/QUOTE]

Not just yea, but Fuck Yea!!

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]I would second (and third) the comment here about YF's comments. Appalling and very narrow minded - other words spring to mind but Jackson may consider it flaming ...

GE's perspective is excellent and he has been living in the country for many years and is more knowledgeable than many as he lives there has first hand experience etc

As I have FR before, I have friends happily married with enormous age gaps, I have had girlfriends early 20s and the age gap is over 30 years and everyone (including my friends) were happy (some very jealous and envious :D)

YF - if you have such an aversion to the age gap why are you on a mongers board that mainly focuses on guys shagging younger nubile girls....maybe Jackson can give you a thread for mongers who like to shag girls their own age (or fuglies as some members have put it). Am sure you have lots of contributors (from yourself).

Age is unimportant if you have feelings and everyone is happy, NR was bold enough to state his feelings and predicament in public and that takes some guts, he should be applauded for that. If he and his lady are comfortable then fine...he is not breaking the law

Perhaps whereever you are based you dont get an opportunity to be with nubile girls in the late teens early 20s, and are jealous....maybe you should change your handle to Green Fever instead ...[/QUOTE]

I am in my early 40s and mongering since I was in my early 20s. I have plenty of experience on 3 continents.

I've actually always enjoyed mature women, 25 or 30+ is great for me. I feel a little guilty with younger girls and anything less than 20 I feel is not necessary. There are many other girls that have more choice and intellectual capacity for my interests.

I live in Southern China and post in Shenzhen/Shanghai and other cities inside China. I was drawn to this particular forum because of my personal experience with a Flipina BG in Shanghai. A relationship that failed not due to age differences. I've posted a lot about it in this PI forums.

We can all agree there is a difference between and 8 yo and a 13 yo. A similar difference between a 13yo and an 18yo. I think at 18 it *may* be legal but still not right. I think there is a considerable difference between still an 18yo and a 25yo in maturity and ability to understand. The differences in age matter much less after 25, a 25yo and a 30yo are more similar. As we get older we change less.

This 18yo in NR case was not ready. She needs to explore herself more.

This is just my POV.

Call it flaming if you want. I call it open discussion.

Yellow Fever

Nothing is right or wrong. It's how society views it and how it affects you. Hugh Heffner doesn't give a fuck. Not the same for an average Joe who is 66 and his 18 year old partner living in the developed world.

But I call a bs on this story. It's hard to believe that any economically disadvantaged and intellectually dificient 18 year old is a virgin in the PI. If nothing else, one of her many male relatives would have been her predator years ago.

[quote=lustforthrust]nothing is right or wrong. it's how society views it and how it affects you. hugh heffner doesn't give a fuck. not the same for an average joe who is 66 and his 18 year old partner living in the developed world.

but i call a bs on this story. it's hard to believe that any economically disadvantaged and intellectually dificient 18 year old is a virgin in the pi. if nothing else, one of her many male relatives would have been her predator years ago.[/quote]

what knightrider1 does in his life is his own decision. initially he asked for advice from the board. we surely gave it to him filling pages and pages.
he never mentioned he is going to marry the girl. he is lamenting that he had planned this elaborate busting the hymen procedure on his next visit. natuarally he is upset and betrayed when the girl told him she was "forced,semi-raped ( if there is such a thing), made horny against her will, entered her vagina without her feeling it etc". all the while this is going on she is hellbent on saving her virginity for knightrider1. why she went to the man's room, why she took off her clothes,why she did not have the heart to say no, why she laid on the bed can only be known to the girl. maybe the guy had given her a date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug.
while i was in college my girlfriend told me one of her friends was crying all next day after she willingly lost her virginity. i guess some girls feel that way.
even if knightrider1 wants to marry her and take her to his country it is very good for the girl. she will have a world of opportunity to get educated, meet friends her own age, get self respect etc. all she has to do is open her legs and keep her mouth shut for 2 years if here in usa till she gets permanent residency.
i am sure if knightrider1 is really wants a virgin girl to be his bride there probably are many in se countries. accusing some guy of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] the girl without clear evidence is bad.
i think it is time to put this matter to rest and we all can go on our daily quest to bust virgins-lol!

Yellow Fever. You've used some expressions that are way over the top: perversion / abnormal... I'm not sure why you pick such inflammatory language even while you post very calm and legitimate arguements.

Although you've created a firestorm, you've consistently presented legit arguements. You've made me think things over a few times.

I doubt I'll ever agree with you (about the age issue), but thanks for the interesting discussion.

X

8 vs 13 years old is a red herring.

When I was a teen i had a 30ish uncle tell me that he thought the same way as when he was 18, although younger people think a 30ish guy is way old.

[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]I am in my early 40s and mongering since I was in my early 20s. I have plenty of experience on 3 continents.

I've actually always enjoyed mature women, 25 or 30+ is great for me. I feel a little guilty with younger girls and anything less than 20 I feel is not necessary. There are many other girls that have more choice and intellectual capacity for my interests.

I live in Southern China and post in Shenzhen/Shanghai and other cities inside China. I was drawn to this particular forum because of my personal experience with a Flipina BG in Shanghai. A relationship that failed not due to age differences. I've posted a lot about it in this PI forums.

We can all agree there is a difference between and 8 yo and a 13 yo. A similar difference between a 13yo and an 18yo. I think at 18 it *may* be legal but still not right. I think there is a considerable difference between still an 18yo and a 25yo in maturity and ability to understand. The differences in age matter much less after 25, a 25yo and a 30yo are more similar. As we get older we change less.

This 18yo in NR case was not ready. She needs to explore herself more.

This is just my POV.

Call it flaming if you want. I call it open discussion.

Yellow Fever[/QUOTE]