Manila

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3041316]Yes, yest it is. All of my girls get the tat.

Not sure they have 3-some in Phils. There's always BKK.

As always don't mention this to OAU.[/QUOTE]Dam! I didn't have any for a few weeks now, constantly moving thru Thailand, last one was in BKK, and actually was a 4 some, a great one. Hard to initiate any on the islands, just hoards of yogis everywhere. Coming back to PH soon for the holydays with "friends and family". Great shots, they look happy, that's what matters to me the most.

Landing at mnl after midnight tomorrow. First timer so only info I have is via forum posts.

Which bar / area can be most feasible to look for an overnighter this late? Or street FLs (my previous street exp in mde turned out to be sub par so on the fence about it).

If it's scraps to pick from after 1 am then I can just use MC for a short call at condo but preferably like to go out and experience the scene. Staying at bgc so no street stroll and pick up for me /1 unfortunately.

If any of you out this late in any of burgos st bar then drop a msg in my inbox, happy to connect while onsite.

Cheers.

L. A Cafe is open 24 hrs, your best bet would be pickup from there without any BF.

[QUOTE=MushElvii;3041372]Landing at mnl after midnight tomorrow. First timer so only info I have is via forum posts.

Which bar / area can be most feasible to look for an overnighter this late? Or street FLs (my previous street exp in mde turned out to be sub par so on the fence about it).

If it's scraps to pick from after 1 am then I can just use MC for a short call at condo but preferably like to go out and experience the scene. Staying at bgc so no street stroll and pick up for me /1 unfortunately.

If any of you out this late in any of burgos st bar then drop a msg in my inbox, happy to connect while onsite.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MushElvii;3041372]Landing at mnl after midnight tomorrow. First timer so only info I have is via forum posts.

Which bar / area can be most feasible to look for an overnighter this late? Or street FLs (my previous street exp in mde turned out to be sub par so on the fence about it).[/QUOTE]For easy point-and-shoot options:

1) Malate city, LA Cafe (now called Midnight Haven). 100-200 FL any night of the week. Negotiate and go. Costs can range wildly as each girl negotiates for herself. If she's desperate for money, her price goes down (at the moment, but might double tomorrow when she's not desperate). There is no price list on the wall, and no real 'going rate', especially since Covid. A desperate hottie might go for $80 USD (p4000) overnight, while an older fugly might insist on $100+ for a 1-pop short time.

2) Makati city. Burgos street freelancers. Numbers change nightly. About 1/3 - 1/2 of the girls are not girls. Negotiate and go. Same regarding prices, but most girls will be happy with p2000 for ST 1-pop, and p3000-5000 for LT. As the evening wears on, girls who didn't get a client start to go home, so maybe fewer girls available after your late flight.

3) Makati city. Burgos gogo bars. Younger and better looking in general, cost is a bit higher. No negotiating, costs are about $180-$240 USD (depends the bar) for LT. About half is paid up front to the bar as you depart, and the rest is given the next morning as a 'tip' to the girl for the her service. Grab one and go.

Write us a descriptive field report.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3041376]For easy point-and-shoot options:

1) Malate city, LA Cafe (now called Midnight Haven). 100-200 FL any night of the week. Negotiate and go. Costs can range wildly as each girl negotiates for herself. If she's desperate for money, her price goes down (at the moment, but might double tomorrow when she's not desperate). There is no price list on the wall, and no real 'going rate', especially since Covid. A desperate hottie might go for $80 USD (p4000) overnight, while an older fugly might insist on $100+ for a 1-pop short time.

2) Makati city. Burgos street freelancers. Numbers change nightly. About 1/3 - 1/2 of the girls are not girls. Negotiate and go. Same regarding prices, but most girls will be happy with p2000 for ST 1-pop, and p3000-5000 for LT. As the evening wears on, girls who didn't get a client start to go home, so maybe fewer girls available after your late flight.

3) Makati city. Burgos gogo bars. Younger and better looking in general, cost is a bit higher. No negotiating, costs are about $180-$240 USD (depends the bar) for LT. About half is paid up front to the bar as you depart, and the rest is given the next morning as a 'tip' to the girl for the her service. Grab one and go.

Write us a descriptive field report.[/QUOTE]Thank you at westcoast1 and at yendappu for quick response.

So, LA Cafe is Earmate district, I flagged it in my explorer map but didn't pay attention thinking its beyond easy commute distance from BGC.

I will start there if its all FL doing solo deals. (I'm assuming they don't ask upfront or any BF).

Alternate now is Burgos gogo. I have few bar names in hand and if there is still good fuckable pieces after 1 or 2 am there then I don't mind dealing there (assuming they don't mandate LD. I recalled some did when rtff'ing earlier).

Report guaranteed. I got dozen SA lined. Even 60% flakes, there is still handful of which I plan to document the encounter.

I'm going to write couple of things I came across in Japan where I'm currently. Especially Korean screaming at top of her lungs. LOL. It almost felt like rapey vibes with those screams😂128514;.

[QUOTE=MushElvii;3041392]Thank you at westcoast1 and at yendappu for quick response.

So, LA Cafe is Earmate district, I flagged it in my explorer map but didn't pay attention thinking its beyond easy commute distance from BGC.

I will start there if its all FL doing solo deals. (I'm assuming they don't ask upfront or any BF).

Alternate now is Burgos gogo. I have few bar names in hand and if there is still good fuckable pieces after 1 or 2 am there then I don't mind dealing there (assuming they don't mandate LD. I recalled some did when rtff'ing earlier).

Report guaranteed. I got dozen SA lined. Even 60% flakes, there is still handful of which I plan to document the encounter.

I'm going to write couple of things I came across in Japan where I'm currently. Especially Korean screaming at top of her lungs. LOL. It almost felt like rapey vibes with those screams😂128514;.[/QUOTE]Post, or DM a link for the Japan reports, I may visit there next year, last time I was there was 25 years ago, and I'm sure things have changed.

Last time I was there, I think I saw few LBs, is it possible, or my mind was playing tricks?

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3041409]Last time I was there, I think I saw few LBs, is it possible, or my mind was playing tricks?[/QUOTE]Haha! My LB radar is pretty week so I'm likely going to grab crotches to check old fashion ways.

To me, asian LBs disguised as girl is top notch work!

[QUOTE=MushElvii;3041441]Haha! My LB radar is pretty week so I'm likely going to grab crotches to check old fashion ways.

To me, asian LBs disguised as girl is top notch work![/QUOTE]Ultimately I'm doing the same, even if I don't suspect foul play, just for the sake of it, so far I didn't grab any sausage, I would be traumatized, haha.

I just got word recently from one of our friends here that there are no LBs in LA Cafe.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3041376]

3) Makati city. Burgos gogo bars. Younger and better looking in general, cost is a bit higher. No negotiating, costs are about $180-$240 USD (depends the bar) for LT. About half is paid up front to the bar as you depart, and the rest is given the next morning as a 'tip' to the girl for the her service. Grab one and go.

Write us a descriptive field report.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MushElvii;3041392]

Alternate now is Burgos gogo. I have few bar names in hand and if there is still good fuckable pieces after 1 or 2 am there then I don't mind dealing there (assuming they don't mandate LD. I recalled some did when rtff'ing earlier).[/QUOTE]There have been a few reports of bars inflating bar fines especially with deer in the headlight newbies. Not the typical 300% skin tax but you may find that a 3900 barfine is first quoted 4500.

You can either wear it as a tourist tax or politely comment that your friend only paid 3900.

As always, going in prepared helps so read up on previous reports for the area generally and on any specific bars you might be interested in.

Burgos is definitely expensive but I always have a good time there and don't recall ever walking away with any diasters.

There are diamonds in the rough on the street there too who are much cheaper but there may be reasons for that and you do need your gaydar set to 11. Not a good time for beer goggles.

Enjoy. G.

Ok, so arrived mid night, breezes thru Immig, grab took 30 min (I opted to use booth which turned out to be less effective).

Got to Apt at 1 am, I had one SA **** lined up but wasn't counting much on her.

I messaged before heading to Ermate and she agreed to come at 1:45 am, got her grab at near by 7-11.

She showed up in a see thru, trying to hide nips as all of 7-11 start staring. Hahah, it was comical.

We did walk of shame from store to building, my guard was quite puzzled seeing that I pulled a girl in 35 minute after check-in.

The shitshow started when we ger upstairs. Usual non sensical talk, some drinks and doing body caresses. I was felling her boobs thru see thru and tried to kiss few times and she dodged me everytime when I tried to kiss lips. First red flag.

I asked if she doesn't like kissing, but she denied saying she do.

Then she wanted to give me message but she was fucking shy and wants me to turn light off.

2nd red flag and I just blurted if she is LB and hiding it. She was shocked for a minute and then said no she is not. I literally grabbed her crotch standing in front of me and she jumped 2 feet away. 3rd red flag so I asked her to take off jeans and I took mine off.

She sat on me reverse cow grinding but don't let me put hands in thong. I did manage to stroke above fabric and confirm there is no LB stick hidden.

I took her off me and told her to suck me off to which she said that she doesn't like it.

That was the last straw, I flipped out and my redneck came out full swinging. 5 HR of fuckin flight and dick full of cum. I was about to throw her off my 34th floor balcony.

I told her to get out of my apartment and I'm not going to put up with it. She gave me a speech about hiv rate increase in manila and how oral uncovered is risky and I got more pissed hearing made up FDA warnings from that *****.

I told her that we are done and I'm going to walk her downstairs. I gave her 300 php for her 20 minutes and she asked for grab which I got her (3 $).

The next 10 minutes she spent profusely apologizing and disappointing me but I told her to not worry and find me a friend who can do what I want. She agreed to connect me to one of her friend but could'nt get hold of her as it was 2 am.

I walked her downstairs and my doorman gave consoling looks to me and I looked back with my eyes telling that I didn't prematurely cummed. I just didn't cum at all!!

Its 3 am and I'm contemplating if I try LA Cafe or gogo though my head and physical strength is fried.

I have 3 SA line up for lunch tomorrow and 3 for dinner as well a Provience girl begging to come and stay all weekend.

Here is picture of tonight disaster. Taken from. SA and ahe goes. By Lei on the app. Avoid at all cost.

Sory for typos, typed on phone.

[QUOTE=MushElvii;3041702]Ok, so arrived mid night, breezes thru Immig, grab took 30 min (I opted to use booth which turned out to be less effective).

Got to Apt at 1 am, I had one SA **** lined up but wasn't counting much on her.

I messaged before heading to Ermate and she agreed to come at 1:45 am, got her grab at near by 7-11.

She showed up in a see thru, trying to hide nips as all of 7-11 start staring. Hahah, it was comical.

We did walk of shame from store to building, my guard was quite puzzled seeing that I pulled a girl in 35 minute after check-in.

The shitshow started when we ger upstairs. Usual non sensical talk, some drinks and doing body caresses. I was felling her boobs thru see thru and tried to kiss few times and she dodged me everytime when I tried to kiss lips. First red flag.

I asked if she doesn't like kissing, but she denied saying she do.

Then she wanted to give me message but she was fucking shy and wants me to turn light off.

2nd red flag and I just blurted if she is LB and hiding it. She was shocked for a minute and then said no she is not. I literally grabbed her crotch standing in front of me and she jumped 2 feet away. 3rd red flag so I asked her to take off jeans and I took mine off.

She sat on me reverse cow grinding but don't let me put hands in thong. I did manage to stroke above fabric and confirm there is no LB stick hidden.

I took her off me and told her to suck me off to which she said that she doesn't like it.

That was the last straw, I flipped out and my redneck came out full swinging. 5 HR of fuckin flight and dick full of cum. I was about to throw her off my 34th floor balcony.

I told her to get out of my apartment and I'm not going to put up with it. She gave me a speech about hiv rate increase in manila and how oral uncovered is risky and I got more pissed hearing made up FDA warnings from that *****.

I told her that we are done and I'm going to walk her downstairs. I gave her 300 php for her 20 minutes and she asked for grab which I got her (3 $).

The next 10 minutes she spent profusely apologizing and disappointing me but I told her to not worry and find me a friend who can do what I want. She agreed to connect me to one of her friend but could'nt get hold of her as it was 2 am.

I walked her downstairs and my doorman gave consoling looks to me and I looked back with my eyes telling that I didn't prematurely cummed. I just didn't cum at all!!

Its 3 am and I'm contemplating if I try LA Cafe or gogo though my head and physical strength is fried.

I have 3 SA line up for lunch tomorrow and 3 for dinner as well a Provience girl begging to come and stay all weekend.

Here is picture of tonight disaster. Taken from. SA and ahe goes. By Lei on the app. Avoid at all cost.

Sory for typos, typed on phone.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Funny for us though I'm sure not for you.

She's a cutie but Seeking is known for Princesses and high maintenance girls.

With 20/20 hindsight, your best bet when standing in the lobby, tired and frustrated at 3 am was probably the doorman standing next to you. A healthy tip and he would have called a special friend to drop around. That's PhilJoy's MO so maybe search his posts for how to's, costs, results etc.

If you have more Seeking girls in the way, it's a good idea to discuss expectations upfront. No need to be insulting but they know why they are coming so it's good if they know any deal breakers.

Good luck. G.

[QUOTE=MushElvii;3041702]

The shitshow started when we ger upstairs. Usual non sensical talk, some drinks and doing body caresses. I was felling her boobs thru see thru and tried to kiss few times and she dodged me everytime when I tried to kiss lips. First red flag.

I asked if she doesn't like kissing, but she denied saying she do.

Then she wanted to give me message but she was fucking shy and wants me to turn light off.

2nd red flag and I just blurted if she is LB and hiding it. She was shocked for a minute and then said no she is not. I literally grabbed her crotch standing in front of me and she jumped 2 feet away. 3rd red flag so I asked her to take off jeans and I took mine off.

She sat on me reverse cow grinding but don't let me put hands in thong. I did manage to stroke above fabric and confirm there is no LB stick hidden.

[/QUOTE]Sorry, I just reread your report. While I trust your word about your touch test, these are all major LB alerts and the big hands and flat chast are worrying. Especially the straddling you reverse cowgirl and dry humping you while still clothed ie ensuring that you can't see it feel anything. Remember that some LBs tape up so that the tackle is hidden from sight and touch even in revealing clothes.

Did she show ID at reception / security?

No offense, and I hope I'm wrong, but there are some worrying details. You may have dodged a bullet.

G.

I always make it a point to clarify intentions right away in chats on social media or apps. Within the first 2-3 messages, I straight-up say I'm looking for adult fun—no beating around the Bush, and if it's not clear, I explicitly mention sex. Some girls ghost after that, some are cool with it and never bring up money, and others immediately ask for compensation.

Like in your case, it's way better to set expectations upfront than to go through all that buildup—flights, drinks, getting upstairs, just to hit a wall of red flags, dodging kisses, excuses about lights / oral / HIV, and ultimately no real action. Saves everyone time and frustration, and prevents those rage-inducing shitshows where you're left with blue balls.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3041704]Thanks for the report. Funny for us though I'm sure not for you.

She's a cutie but Seeking is known for Princesses and high maintenance girls.

With 20/20 hindsight, your best bet when standing in the lobby, tired and frustrated at 3 am was probably the doorman standing next to you. A healthy tip and he would have called a special friend to drop around. That's PhilJoy's MO so maybe search his posts for how to's, costs, results etc.

If you have more Seeking girls in the way, it's a good idea to discuss expectations upfront. No need to be insulting but they know why they are coming so it's good if they know any deal breakers.

Good luck. G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;3041707]Sorry, I just reread your report. While I trust your word about your touch test, these are all major LB alerts and the big hands and flat chast are worrying. Especially the straddling you reverse cowgirl and dry humping you while still clothed ie ensuring that you can't see it feel anything. Remember that some LBs tape up so that the tackle is hidden from sight and touch even in revealing clothes.

Did she show ID at reception / security?

No offense, and I hope I'm wrong, but there are some worrying details. You may have dodged a bullet.

G.[/QUOTE]You are right G. I did dodged one as it could ve gone in multiple directions. Last time I had this kinda thing in room in Medellin, I ended up getting security and almost got kicked out of bnb.

She (he, it, they, whatever the fuck pronoun) did showed ID, got signed up and received visitor badge. It could be LB disguised but it remained very submissively apologetic so I wasn't sure if there was enough testosterone level there. LOL.

Anyway. New day, new pussy to get (the biological one).

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3041709]I always make it a point to clarify intentions right away in chats on social media or apps. Within the first 2-3 messages, I straight-up say I'm looking for adult funno beating around the Bush, and if it's not clear, I explicitly mention sex. Some girls ghost after that, some are cool with it and never bring up money, and others immediately ask for compensation.

Like in your case, it's way better to set expectations upfront than to go through all that buildupflights, drinks, getting upstairs, just to hit a wall of red flags, dodging kisses, excuses about lights / oral / HIV, and ultimately no real action. Saves everyone time and frustration, and prevents those rage-inducing shitshows where you're left with blue balls.[/QUOTE]Yendappu. I had dozens from SA around the world, not like Steve9966 level game but I do alright overall. You are absolutely right in setting this up front but in my MO, 90% of my attempts doesn't succeed if we ended up talking line level details upfront. The successful and core memory stuff had happened when we met and just went with the flow and end up doing shit ton of fun.

However, this is new turf and I don't have time to play long game so I'm scaling myself down and going bar / gogo thing route. I walked a bit around 2 am last night and saw good perspectives even in bgc streets so I'm sure there are pussies being slinged in abundance here.

About the using doorman or security guard to fetch some option for me, I tested water a bit during check in asking about bars, where are girls hanging but guy acted as he don't even understand the english I'm speaking (he understood other stuff just fine) so I was under impression that he doesn't want to partake in pimping some snatch for me and I didn't push it further.

On completely different side note, does midnight Cafe have WG during daytime? I need a backup plan in place if my daytime bootycall ghost me and I m not going into evening without some fun first!