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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2119174]the overall trend is a decreasing number of bars[/QUOTE]I don't believe that is statistically correct on Fields Ave. Although I haven't checked Perimeter Road bars.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2119174]Bars cannot stay in business without a steady supply of mongers who spend enough to make them profitable.[/QUOTE]You forgot the huge number of Koreans that are coming. They are still coming regardless of the bad PR of Koreans getting mugged / kidnapped / killed. Koreanization of Fields Ave is continuing. More Korean oriented bars, more Korean restaurants. There are now Korean style arcades / Korean beauty product stores. Without the Koreans, Angeles would be in a pretty bad shape, similar to what you wrote.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2119174]A man can arrive in the Philippines and have his fill of sex without setting foot in AC or a bar.[/QUOTE]Correct, but Koreans and normal tourist are not going to use Tinder / DIA / FB / etc and streetwalkers to get pussy. Many sex tourist will still come to Angeles.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2119174]Recent reports generally indicate that the bars are not filled with large numbers of horny mongers even during high season.[/QUOTE]Tons of Koreans around. Some bars have less staff. I was told that many girls left for their provinces. Very difficult to quantify. Seems similar to previous years.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2119035]Plain and simple they have an affordable supply system.[/QUOTE]You can thank the Pinoys for that. They impregnate the Pinays, don't help them financially, forcing them to work at the bars in Angeles.

- I have noticed a lot more moms working in Angeles than before. Some of them are pretty decent, 6's or 7's in my scale. Of course, you have many mediocre and marginal looking girls. Most of the waitresses are moms. But now with the growth of the Korean oriented bars, where the girls wear dresses that cover up their bodies, many more moms are dancing on stage.

- Dragon Bar is a Korean oriented bar. Tons of girls for such a small bar. Some of the quality is pretty good. Many moms though. The girls wear dresses, trying to be classy. They go on stage, walk around, and then parade around the bar. The Koreans come early in groups, and take the girls in bunches.

- Dragon Bar is next to Club Asia, which has been closed for the last several days. Club Asia has never been a popular crowded bar. My guess is that the remaining girls were sent to the other Dollhouse House Group bars. I think some bars are having trouble keeping their bars stocked with girls.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2119303]You can thank the Pinoys for that. They impregnate the Pinays, don't help them financially, forcing them to work at the bars in Angeles.

- I have noticed a lot more moms working in Angeles than before. Some of them are pretty decent, 6's or 7's in my scale. Of course, you have many mediocre and marginal looking girls. Most of the waitresses are moms. But now with the growth of the Korean oriented bars, where the girls wear dresses that cover up their bodies, many more moms are dancing on stage.

- Dragon Bar is a Korean oriented bar. Tons of girls for such a small bar. Some of the quality is pretty good. Many moms though. The girls wear dresses, trying to be classy. They go on stage, walk around, and then parade around the bar. The Koreans come early in groups, and take the girls in bunches.

- Dragon Bar is next to Club Asia, which has been closed for the last several days. Club Asia has never been a popular crowded bar. My guess is that the remaining girls were sent to the other Dollhouse House Group bars. I think some bars are having trouble keeping their bars stocked with girls.[/QUOTE]The affordable delivery system is via the bars. The bars are stocked and we go in and shop with some assurances, expectations and reliability.

Sadly from the corruption and lack of birth control the supply will be there in the near future. Government and Churches are to be held to be blamed for this.

I have had many great sexcapes with 6 and 7's. I still have flashbacks about one of the kindest thick girl with the meatiest tightest V I have ever had.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2119174]For the past year, the international media has covered the Philippines due to the huge body count from the ongoing drug war; ISIS affiliated insurgents in Marawi City, and the renewed war against the NPA. This did not exactly promote the Philippines as a premier sex-tourism destination. It will continue to have a negative effect on the number of mongers arriving in AC in search of sexual thrills. [/QUOTE]I was not aware of Jihadist or NPA activities in the Angeles vicinity. I suppose some newbs might incorrectly generalize these news reports to typical Luzon mongering areas, but I don't recall any dumb newb questions in this thread about terror threats in Angeles. There have been some questions about safety in Mindanao, but Mindanao is not typically a prime mongering area. I would think that most men with the financial wherewithal to travel to the Philippines when they have the scent of cheap pussy in their nostrils would know enough to research any possible connection between terror threats and popular sex tourism destinations. Obviously we can't be sure about numbers of new potential mongers who have been frightened away, but if there were such a quesiton, wouldn't some dumb newby have posted the question to this thread? And if he did, wouldn't the threat be dismissed by some of the regulars?

I liked the video on rat barbecue. You'd think they'd have figured out how to use dogs in the pursuit. Dogs are much quicker and more lethal on rats than are sticks.

Arrived at Clark from Singapore. Metered yellow taxi from airport to Devera hotel 200 pesos. Its my 4 third visit at Angeles always stay same hotel small but nice room 1200 pesos. Visited high society disco almost every night entrance fee most of the nights was 250 pesos for man and 50 for girls just on Wednesday was 100 pesos seems they increasing entrance fee every year. Take few freelancers for 1500 pesos short time from Hiso seems now is not so easy find cute girl at Hiso for 1000 pesos short time like my previous visits maybe because its high season now. Anyway I.

Found many girls on date of asia, pinalove, some on wechat, just need to be careful here a lot of ladyboys.

Most of the times I pay girls from dating sites between 500-1000 pesos for short times depends how cute she was. Have also some bar girls from fields bars for 1000-1500 pesos short time after their work or on their day off. I enjoy my stay here its still plenty cheap fun options here for budget monger like me.

[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2119317]I was not aware of Jihadist or NPA activities in the Angeles vicinity. I suppose some newbs might incorrectly generalize these news reports to typical Luzon mongering areas, but I don't recall any dumb newb questions in this thread about terror threats in Angeles. There have been some questions about safety in Mindanao, but Mindanao is not typically a prime mongering area. I would think that most men with the financial wherewithal to travel to the Philippines when they have the scent of cheap pussy in their nostrils would know enough to research any possible connection between terror threats and popular sex tourism destinations. Obviously we can't be sure about numbers of new potential mongers who have been frightened away, but if there were such a quesiton, wouldn't some dumb newby have posted the question to this thread? And if he did, wouldn't the threat be dismissed by some of the regulars?

I liked the video on rat barbecue. You'd think they'd have figured out how to use dogs in the pursuit. Dogs are much quicker and more lethal on rats than are sticks.[/QUOTE]I think CM's point is that the frequent travel warnings and reports of terrorist attacks might deter more cautious travelers from visiting the PI, and he's correct according to some articles I've read recently indicating that tourism has been adversely affected. While it's true that most embassy-issued travel warnings focus on the Sulu archipelago and other areas of Mindanao, many also cite the possibility of violence in and around Manila and for those unfamiliar with the country's geography, much less the geography of Manila, this might be a sufficient deterrent. Why run the risk, however small, in coming here when for about the same amount of money the aspiring monger can visit Thailand or Cambodia?

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2119447]I think CM's point is that the frequent travel warnings and reports of terrorist attacks might deter more cautious travelers from visiting the PI......[/QUOTE]The various embassies issue these travel warnings as a major league CYA effort on their part. I have virtually ignored them ever since I read about the time that the UK embassy once put out a travel advisory due to the possibility of polar bears in the city of Edmonton.

Edmonton is a large major city surrounded by many miles of developed farmlands, there are no wild animals of significant size anywhere near there.

Edmonton is also very far away from polar bear territory, at least 1500 kms to the nearest wild one I'd guess if not significantly more depending on the season. In the winter they are out on the ice of the Arctic Ocean.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2119399]Visited high society disco almost every night entrance fee most of the nights was 250 pesos for man and 50 for girls just on Wednesday was 100 pesos seems they increasing entrance fee every year. Take few freelancers for 1500 pesos short time from Hiso seems now is not so easy find cute girl at Hiso for 1000 pesos short time like my previous visits maybe because its high season now.[/QUOTE]There is not an entrance fee to High Society on weekdays. On weekends it is 200 pesos for foreigners. There is even a sign out with the fee on the nights they charge. Did you give this money to a cashier or just the guy behind the counter before you enter the door?

LT is generally 1500. Last week there were not many cute girls as you said. I gave her 1500 (not discussed) to the girl I got from there Thursday. The next night I did not feel like going out so I had her come over again for 1500, again not previously discussed. The second day she came at midnight and stayed until noon when I had to check out of the hotel.

I met another chick on tinder that tried to rip me off. She wanted 4K. My friends say her and her crew are always in HiSo. She made jokes saying I could not afford her. A couple of days later when I touched down in the States, I received a message from her trying to see me for 2K. I told her that I would feel like I was cheating her and I could not take her for only 2K and keep a good conscience when I know she only goes for 4K. When I go back next month I will get her for 1500; might even give that bich just 1000 for trying to fuck me over like that!

Can someone who recently visited HiSo tell me if it is completely non-smoking now? And sticking to it?

Thanks. I would like to go there next month if it is.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2119707]Can someone who recently visited HiSo tell me if it is completely non-smoking now? And sticking to it?

Thanks. I would like to go there next month if it is.[/QUOTE]People were smoking inside last week.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2119722]People were smoking inside last week.[/QUOTE]I imagine if someone had an official looking badge and citation book, one could get some on the spot fines paid to them! Instead of the P5000 fine, you could let them off the hook for P1000.

Where's my badge?

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2119498]The various embassies issue these travel warnings as a major league CYA effort on their part. [/QUOTE]And some folks heed them assiduously. As a result of the State Department's travel warning my employer has restrictions against funded travel to the Phils. They don't distinguish between Manila and higher risk areas of Mindanao and the Sulu Archipelago. It strikes me that the CYA policies are based more on symbolic fears than actual threat levels. So any combination of Muslim population, under-development, and distance from the states is symbolically lethal. In a similar vein was the postulate from several decades ago that the fear of communism was inversely proportional to the distance from the Soviet Union. Americans were especially fearful of communism, the Finnish population not so much. Recent history would suggest that there are greater risks for terrorists to kill Americans in Las Vegas and Orlando than in the Philippines, but I don't know of many employers that have put Las Vegas and Orlando off limits. Anything seen as "out there" is necessarily more threatening symbolically.

[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2119813]And some folks heed them assiduously. As a result of the State Department's travel warning my employer has restrictions against funded travel to the Phils. They don't distinguish between Manila and higher risk areas of Mindanao and the Sulu Archipelago. It strikes me that the CYA policies are based more on symbolic fears than actual threat levels. So any combination of Muslim population, under-development, and distance from the states is symbolically lethal. In a similar vein was the postulate from several decades ago that the fear of communism was inversely proportional to the distance from the Soviet Union. Americans were especially fearful of communism, the Finnish population not so much. Recent history would suggest that there are greater risks for terrorists to kill Americans in Las Vegas and Orlando than in the Philippines, but I don't know of many employers that have put Las Vegas and Orlando off limits. Anything seen as "out there" is necessarily more threatening symbolically.[/QUOTE]I once had this discussion with a US Ambassador to the Philippines whom I greatly respected. I asked her specifically, why the US and other countries didn't differentiate between warnings about places like Sulu—where the danger of kidnapping is high—and others like Davao and General Santos, where the risks are extremely low. She responded in "it's better to be safe than to be sorry" mode, contending that the Embassy had to be able to issue warnings that covered several contingencies so that, just in case something untoward did happen, the US Government could not be accused of failing to warn its citizens. US Embassy and USAID staff in the Philippines may not travel anywhere in Mindanao without permission since they are considered high value targets.

I don't blame the US and other governments from these sorts of admonitions. It's their job to warn their citizens of any potential dangers. And if they're overly cautious, so what? The warnings will not deter knowledgeable and / or determined travelers, though they might cumulatively adversely affect tourism in the targeted countries.

Two other unrelated points: another ferry capsized here yesterday killing at least four people. The flooding in and around CDO is severe and we know folks here whose family houses have been badly damaged.

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2119838]<SNIP> "it's better to be safe than to be sorry" mode, contending that the Embassy had to be able to issue warnings that covered several contingencies so that, just in case something untoward did happen, the US Government could not be accused of failing to warn its citizens. [/QUOTE]Hence Soapy's use of the CYA epithet.

The Australian Government gives out the same CYA messages for most SE Asian countries now, especially since an Oz National guy (backpacker) went missing between Phnom Penh and Snookyville in Cambodia around 20 years ago and the Gov was lambasted for not warning him about the dangers.

Was she a petite girl with big boobs, E? I had one like that in AC who pulled the same stunt with me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2119597]
I met another chick on tinder that tried to rip me off. She wanted 4K. ![/QUOTE]