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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1366270]Truer words have not been spoken. That really is the rub isn't it. Harder and harder to find good looking girls that perform well at any price these days.[/QUOTE]If they get paid without performance, why should they. Except the gems who really enjoy what they are doing. And there is no way I would share one in public.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1366106]One more thing, in a severe worldwide depression brought on by an American default on its sovereign debt, the demand for high price pussy will significantly decline leading to a drastic price reduction for services. Unfortunately few will be in a position to buy a plane ticket to Thailand in order to take advantage of the new price reality. I plan to be one of those guys. See you in BKK after the world ends![/QUOTE]I saw an expert on economic trends who has made provable predictions for the last 25 years interviewed on Al Jazeera who calculates 2020 for the complete economic collapse of USA.
One tip he gave was to invest in gold.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1366239]Just to get one thing straight. I am able to buy all your house cars and a few Bentleys on top. Is that a reason to spoil other countries for their inhabitants?[/QUOTE]You sit here and cry like its the end of the world for overpaying $10 USD for a piece of ass and now you would have us believe that you can buy all of us and a few Bentlys on top of that. Yeah right!
Monied guys don't cry about $5. Not the wealthy guys I know and run with. My guess is you have a very good imagination. I'll be I SEA during Jan and Feb. Just because I can I'm gong to overpay by $5 each girl I bed. I'm guessing that will be an average of one a day. So it's going to run me $150 extra. Wow! That's a whole dinner for a friend an I. What will I do? There goes my budget for the next five years.
Simon says: Sure, I believe you.
[QUOTE=SimonHeSays; 1366355]You sit here and cry like its the end of the world for overpaying $10 USD for a piece of ass and now you would have us believe that you can buy all of us and a few Bentlys on top of that. Yeah right!
Monied guys don't cry about $5. Not the wealthy guys I know and run with. My guess is you have a very good imagination. I'll be I SEA during Jan and Feb. Just because I can I'm gong to overpay by $5 each girl I bed. I'm guessing that will be an average of one a day. So it's going to run me $150 extra. Wow! That's a whole dinner for a friend an I. What will I do? There goes my budget for the next five years.
Simon says: Sure, I believe you.[/QUOTE]I don't give a sh... If you believe me or not. For me it's enough if those believe me who know me. You may leave your footprints and I do it my style.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470]I am glad you added IMHO in your condemnation of UK punting; it is a great mongering place with rates dropping to £100 / hour for many EE girls.[/QUOTE]With the world economy slumping, rates are dropping in many places. A Tokyo BJ bar rate of $23 would be an example of that.
If Bangkok prices for BJ bars are about the same, that doesn't support Rick Rock's claim that BKK is getting expensive, but that Tokyo is getting cheap, in one small way.
Nevertheless your UK rate of 100 pounds per hour is still ridiculously expensive compared to Bangkok. It's easy for a guy to get 5 to 10 times more bang for his buck in the Thai capital.
That's the main why reason I intend to retire full time in LOS. I'll continue saving a fortune, many tens of thousands of USD, over prices back in Canada.
Rick Rock's comments have not convinced me in the slightest that there is any country anywhere else in the world that is a better choice than Siam.
But I appreciate his input nonetheless as it has inspired a lively & interesting discussion with a number of comments I've found personally may be of some practical use.
I'm sure that I'm not the only one in that regard.
[QUOTE=Rick Rock]The cost of visiting Japan will quickly chew up any savings you might make, compared to Thailand. Which is why Japan isn't a mongering destination for anyone other than those with a particular fetish for Japanese girls and some of the stranger services that exist there. Which is the same thing I'd say about Bangkok. Fine to fuck in if you find yourself on business or a general holiday tour there. Not a bad place, just not a place to fly half way around the world to monger in unless you have some special interest there. Which was my original point.[/QUOTE]Visiting Japan will generally cost you as much or much more than Thailand for everything that matters to a monger, so there won't be any savings by visiting Japan, just the additional cost of airfare.
Though if I had unlimited or much greater finances, Japan would be a consideration as a sex retirement destination because it is full of beautiful white skinned busty spinners without the Western feminist mindset.
As it stands I'll have to settle for Bangkok, with its P4P scene dominated by darker skinned ladies, which gives me way more value for my dollar, so far more bang for my buck than North America.
It's not that I have a "fetish" for the look of Asians or Thais, as there are hot women in countries all over the world.
But I'll continue to "fly half way around the world" to Bangkok until I finally retire in Thailand. Why? Because the extra costs of airfare and hotels for the trip to LOS are offset quickly, like in a week or two of mongering when Western sex worker prices are factored in. After that it's all gravy, which for me means many thousands of dollars in savings.
Moreover, like Wolvenvacht implied, people like to go to places for other reasons in addition to mongering. This could includes things like the culture, the food, checking out possible employment or GF or wife or retirement options, research into investing, learning a new language, writing a book, etc.
[QUOTE=Big Poppa II; 1366251]Last time I went to Hinomaru it was 10, 000 yen for a blow job by a fat chick. That was the only time I engaged in anything in Japan. I've been going there minimum twice a year since 1996. The prices in Japan are just outrageous, I rather do China or Philippines. The old hookers in Shinagawa want like 150, 000 for ST.
Anyway, I'll be in BKK soon for the first time, looking forward to the experience. Thanks to everyone who posts useful information.
BP[/QUOTE]When did you go last? Those prices were applied more than 3 years ago. The financial crisis has come since, and the price at Hinomaru is 4000. The chick may or may not be fat, YMMV, but that's true also in BKK, if not in terms of look, but certainly in terms of service. And you don't have to take an old chick in Shinagawa. Look at the Tokyo thread, a lot of very good info, given without flaming. If you go twice a year and have not found anything to your liking, I can only be sorry for you.
I am not suggesting, and I don't think anybody does, that Tokyo is a monger destination. But it is definitively a fun place, for those wanting to explore it. And, as far as I am concerned, I get bored in BKK after a few days: I don't want a GF, don't want to go out and have dinner with Wgs, don't want to spend hours in bars playing billiard, don't enjoy the heat and the hassle. I just enjoy dropping for a day or 2 on the way to somewhere else and have a couple of good fucks.
No flaming, please, to each his own, this is MY opinion, and I fully understand why other don't agree with it.
Hey guys sorry if this has been answered, only got one night here on the way back home and can't find it now. What's the name / loc of the freelance club that stays open real late? Remember reading here couple of weeks ago. And is Thermae still around? I recall of it on my first trip a decade ago.
Thanks
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1364958]You know, I was always wondering, how do people prepare for a trip to Bangkok? 10 years ago I would agree it was difficult to find info but now? With the internet? Are people really that stupid as to not do a little research before coming whoring in Thailand?
The girls are not driving up the prices: WE ARE, by agreeing to pay them.[/QUOTE]Well. 3-4 years ago it was easier to do the research. Back then most of the expats and BKK veterans were happy to provide newbies with valuable information concerning prices, locations, hotels and so on. Today many of them seem to enjoy patronizing newbies more.
I for myself knew that I was overpaying when I spent 4500 THB for LT with a pretty Baccara girl. But nobody cared to tell me the going rate of Baccara. Is it 3k? 4k? Rules like "I never spend more than 3000" may apply to BKK residents but it's difficult to follow these rules when you only have one night to monger.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1365590]Yeah, that's the one. That knucklehead living the dream just sitting in his hotel room all day and trolling for $15 methheads at night. LOL
And yet, he's a savior to many.
Also lots of misinformation there, yet can be entertaining at times.[/QUOTE]Hi guys, clown / knucklehead checking in.
Despite what some people on here (who I don't think have even been to snooky) are telling you every girl in sihanoukville isn't ugly or a meth head.
I've been with a few uggles when I couldn't find anything better, but not for a few months, and I've been with a few girls that do meth, never had a problem with them at all and 2 of the hottest / my favorite girls out here like to do it, one of them I have left in my room alone while I went out on many occasions (10-15) and she never stole a thing from me, the other I don't trust quite as much so I'm careful to lock up valuables when she comes over, but again she has never been a problem in the 15 or so times we have done our thing.
This isn't Pattaya or Bangkok there arent a million working girls out every night, but there are some very attractive girls around you just have to be a little more patient and pounce on an opportunity when it presents itself.
If you go out looking for a hottie and can't find one which happens at times either take the night off or go with something less attractive, up to you, but I'm pretty confident in saying that in the past few months I haven't been with any girls that others on this board wouldn't gladly pay $15-$20 to spend some time with, when I first got out here I would go with lesser quality but now that I've been oversexed for the past 5 months I am much more patient and if I don't find anything to my liking don't mind waiting till tomorrow.
The key is when you see one of the rare hotties go ask as quick as possible and get her number for she leaves and spend as much time with her as you possibly can.
I was in Bangkok for only one night so not a huge sample size, but I walked around for hours, saw thousands of girls in and around nana, ended up with the one I considered to be the hottest I saw and I've been with at least 5 hotter here in sihanoukville and another 5-10 were at a comparable level
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1366335]If they get paid without performance, why should they. Except the gems who really enjoy what they are doing. And there is no way I would share one in public.[/QUOTE]You wouldn't want any other guys seeing a working girl would you? And with the cheap charlie attitude I'm sure they are being celibate until you return. Waiting for you to spend that big Bently money on them. Where are you from that US $5 is such a big deal? I mean really. You thinking is totally convoluted. Why would you go to a site set up to review WGs all over the world and then when you find a good one keep it to yourself. Who does that do any good for? Why is it you're here?
I've gleamed quite a bit of good info, met some really nice guys and am planning my first real mongering trip to SEA. I will report the good with the bad. And if I find a gem I will report.
And a guy with obvious millions, I mean you're buying us all and then some Bentlys, and your concerned about $5-$10? Dude I [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] that away on coffee each day. The only other answer is you enjoy denigrating people? In which case I can make a good guess what country you're from. Sad.
[QUOTE=Sean EZ; 1366415]Hey guys sorry if this has been answered, only got one night here on the way back home and can't find it now. What's the name / loc of the freelance club that stays open real late? Remember reading here couple of weeks ago. And is Thermae still around? I recall of it on my first trip a decade ago.
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I went to the orginal Thermae before it moved in 1996. Was good in those days