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[QUOTE=Dg8787;2119707]Can someone who recently visited HiSo tell me if it is completely non-smoking now? And sticking to it?
Thanks. I would like to go there next month if it is.[/QUOTE]I noticed in their photos that people were smoking. I sent a message asking if smoking was allowed now. No answer.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2119838]She responded in "it's better to be safe than to be sorry" mode, contending that the Embassy had to be able to issue warnings that covered several contingencies so that, just in case something untoward did happen, the US Government could not be accused of failing to warn its citizens.
I don't blame the US and other governments from these sorts of admonitions. It's their job to warn their citizens of any potential dangers. And if they're overly cautious, so what? The warnings will not deter knowledgeable and / or determined travelers, though they might cumulatively adversely affect tourism in the targeted countries. GE.[/QUOTE]I moved a reply to the General Info thread since this discussion is increasingly irrelevant to the Angeles thread.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2119291]I don't believe that is statistically correct on Fields Ave. Although I haven't checked Perimeter Road bars.
You forgot the huge number of Koreans that are coming. They are still coming regardless of the bad PR of Koreans getting mugged / kidnapped / killed. Koreanization of Fields Ave is continuing. More Korean oriented bars, more Korean restaurants. There are now Korean style arcades / Korean beauty product stores. Without the Koreans, Angeles would be in a pretty bad shape, similar to what you wrote.
Correct, but Koreans and normal tourist are not going to use Tinder / DIA / FB / etc and streetwalkers to get pussy. Many sex tourist will still come to Angeles.
Tons of Koreans around. Some bars have less staff. I was told that many girls left for their provinces. Very difficult to quantify. Seems similar to previous years.[/QUOTE]Hi GreenBud, Koreans are getting mugged / killed /? What happened? I am an Asian guy myself. I am not Korean, but, Asian. I would be afraid to go to AC if, the local crinimals are trying to kill Asians. Any information you can provide who be great. How do I stay away from the crinimals?
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2119174]Perhaps, there is a lot of new construction and inflation. However, the overall trend is a decreasing number of bars and mongers. In general, bars are a dying industry in AC. Bars cannot stay in business without a steady supply of mongers who spend enough to make them profitable. Some people will pay higher prices but many will not as there are other alternatives. A man can arrive in the Philippines and have his fill of sex without setting foot in AC or a bar. Unless there is some grand marketing plan promoting some unique feature of AC bars, there is no reason to believe that business will improve with an increase in prices.
Many smokers and potheads have fled due to the Du30 special policies. For the past year, the international media has covered the Philippines due to the huge body count from the ongoing drug war; ISIS affiliated insurgents in Marawi City, and the renewed war against the NPA. This did not exactly promote the Philippines as a premier sex-tourism destination. It will continue to have a negative effect on the number of mongers arriving in AC in search of sexual thrills. Recent reports generally indicate that the bars are not filled with large numbers of horny mongers even during high season.[/QUOTE]Hi Chocha Monger, I have not been to AC in over 9 years. I was wondering, it is safe to go to AC these days? Have you come across any muslim terrorists? Local PHillippines police killing people not related to drugs? I heard they are killing Korean men?? I am Asian myself. Is it safe to go to AC these days?
[QUOTE=Vincelee76;2120531]Hi GreenBud, Koreans are getting mugged / killed /? What happened? I am an Asian guy myself. I am not Korean, but, Asian. I would be afraid to go to AC if, the local crinimals are trying to kill Asians. Any information you can provide who be great. How do I stay away from the crinimals?[/QUOTE]No need to be afraid of the local criminals, but you might get killed by a jealous westerner when you walk around with the hottest girls in town (who prefer Asian guys as you might know).
[QUOTE=Vincelee76;2120533]Hi Chocha Monger, I have not been to AC in over 9 years. I was wondering, it is safe to go to AC these days? Have you come across any muslim terrorists? Local PHillippines police killing people not related to drugs? I heard they are killing Korean men?? I am Asian myself. Is it safe to go to AC these days?[/QUOTE]Go and have a good time. Other than petty street crime, there's little danger other than sexual exhaustion. Asian men are not being targeted by anyone except the Filipinas, and there's still enough life left in the bars to make life fun.
GE.
[QUOTE=Vincelee76;2120533]Hi Chocha Monger, I have not been to AC in over 9 years. I was wondering, it is safe to go to AC these days? Have you come across any muslim terrorists? Local PHillippines police killing people not related to drugs? I heard they are killing Korean men?? I am Asian myself. Is it safe to go to AC these days?[/QUOTE]Assuming that you are just tourist and not involved in any business or drug use, it is probably less dangerous than the last time you were there 9 years ago. Thanks to the Du30 special brand of justice, there are less shabu addicts on the prowl robbing and murdering tourists in AC. Any terrorists you run into are likely on are&are and not interested in you. The police did not kill random Korean men. They targeted a highly paid Korean executive for extortion, and after they murdered him, they extorted his wife for more money as she did not know her husband was already dead.
Being Asian does not put you at a higher risk unless you are a high-rolling whale who makes it rain P1,000 bills from the balconies of Walking St bars. Follow the same precautions you took the last time you visited AC and you should be fine. Do not let any trike drivers take you on a mystery ride to any secret places that supposedly has "better girls. " LOL!
Disclaimer: Actual individual risk may vary based on drinking habits, wearing of jewelry, public use of the latest version of the iPhone, and choice of freelancers from the street.
[QUOTE=Vincelee76;2120533]Hi Chocha Monger, I have not been to AC in over 9 years. I was wondering, it is safe to go to AC these days? Have you come across any muslim terrorists? Local PHillippines police killing people not related to drugs? I heard they are killing Korean men?? I am Asian myself. Is it safe to go to AC these days?[/QUOTE]You have fallen under the spell of chocha downer. To get out from under it just rtff more and get real first hand reports.
How safe is travel in the early hours? I arrive late at Manila and would prefer to push on, taxi to Pasay, bus to Dau and trike to hotel. How safe would the trike be with luggage etc at 3 am? I figure Manila is not worth the hassle but I do not want to be found dead at sun up.
I feel, for my needs, a cheap hotel and a steady stream of skanks is the way to go.
Last time, I fucked like a rabbit and had to go to the hospital to be cleansed. The hospital was funny with all the newbies getting their antibiotics for the clap. I took double the recommended dosage, a dangerous thing to do, what with side effects. Given the risks I have taken, I was over due a dose. I was thankful I did not have herpes of HIV, both possibilities with the bonking and desperation.
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All in all, I reckon Angeles is the worse place in the Philippines. Except for riding the range.
Chocha Monger: Thank you for your wisdom and knowledge. You are a true Jedi Monger Master!! Thanks again.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2120557]Go and have a good time. Other than petty street crime, there's little danger other than sexual exhaustion. Asian men are not being targeted by anyone except the Filipinas, and there's still enough life left in the bars to make life fun.
GE.[/QUOTE]Thank you Goodenough and Mogwai: You both are awesome. Thanks for the info. Please have an awesome afternoon.
[QUOTE=Vincelee76;2120531]Hi GreenBud, Koreans are getting mugged / killed /? What happened? I am an Asian guy myself. I am not Korean, but, Asian. I would be afraid to go to AC if, the local crinimals are trying to kill Asians. Any information you can provide who be great. How do I stay away from the crinimals?[/QUOTE]As other people have said, it is safe, if you are not stupid. If you are a normal non-flashy tourist, and avoid dark alleys, it is safe. That being said, IMO, the government doesn't protect / care about the tourists as much as Thailand, and especially not as much as Vietnam and Cambodia.
There were at least 2 high profile killings / kidnappings. One by Pinoy law enforcement, and the other carried out by Korean twins and their Pinoy cronies. You can google it for more detailed info. Both victims were wealthy and had business interests in the Philippines. But these 2 occurred in the past few years. Statistically, it isn't that many.
I was told that the Korean media is reporting on crimes committed on the Koreans in the Philippines. But you know how the media is. They sensationalize it. Out of the millions of Koreans that come to the Philippines every year, it probably isn't that many. Many cities in the US is probably more dangerous.
Several years ago, there seemed to have been Mafia type killings of Koreans (probably Mob related). Even the mayor said there was a Korean mob war going on. They were killed without the murderer taking their expensive watches, cells phones and wallets. I don't believe I have read any of that type of killings recently. Although, I don't religiously read Philippines news. Mainly when it makes world news.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2120792]As other people have said, it is safe, if you are not stupid. If you are a normal non-flashy tourist, and avoid dark alleys, it is safe. That being said, IMO, the government doesn't protect / care about the tourists as much as Thailand, and especially not as much as Vietnam and Cambodia.
There were at least 2 high profile killings / kidnappings. One by Pinoy law enforcement, and the other carried out by Korean twins and their Pinoy cronies. You can google it for more detailed info. Both victims were wealthy and had business interests in the Philippines. But these 2 occurred in the past few years. Statistically, it isn't that many.
I was told that the Korean media is reporting on crimes committed on the Koreans in the Philippines. But you know how the media is. They sensationalize it. Out of the millions of Koreans that come to the Philippines every year, it probably isn't that many. Many cities in the US is probably more dangerous.
Several years ago, there seemed to have been Mafia type killings of Koreans (probably Mob related). Even the mayor said there was a Korean mob war going on. They were killed without the murderer taking their expensive watches, cells phones and wallets. I don't believe I have read any of that type of killings recently. Although, I don't religiously read Philippines news. Mainly when it makes world news.[/QUOTE]Keep very little money on you and don't wear an expensive watch. If you do walk on the street, don't respond to any calls from trike drivers or other vendors. They are no good. Be super careful when you go to change money at the little kiosk.
They like rich guys more than anything. Doesn't matter what color you are. I think you might mean to say Korean instead of Asian. They think Koreans guys are easy money. I also get that impression. I'm Asian and they always ask me if I'm Filipino. And I'm pretty sure they're doing it to weed Filipinos out. Although you may be right in some sense, given equally paying white and Asian guy they'll probably choose the reputationally smaller dicked Korean.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2120554]No need to be afraid of the local criminals, but you might get killed by a jealous westerner when you walk around with the hottest girls in town (who prefer Asian guys as you might know).[/QUOTE]
As far as I can tell this wasn't answered. Last time I was there a couple months ago, smoking was allowed. I remembered being annoyed by it. It's been great having no smoking in the bars, wish they would follow rule of law as well but I suppose I can't have everything. If everyone was following rule of law exactly angeles wouldn't be worth going to in the first place. LOL. Enjoy smoking in high so.
[QUOTE=Jack4765;2120035]I noticed in their photos that people were smoking. I sent a message asking if smoking was allowed now. No answer.[/QUOTE]