Medellin Reports

In the next 10 days I expect to get a job offer in Medellin. I can't say much about the job, except that the work environment should be almost perfect for me. The offer is long-term, leading to residency and probable future dual citizenship.

I have no problem with down-sizing and am willing to move with a few suitcases and a few boxes of keepsakes. I'm also considering a small business to supplement my income. I also plan on an immersion course in Spanish to improve my skills.

The question is, how much is enough? Housing may be provided, or subsidized. How much of an income will be enough to get by comfortably?

I don't need a car, although a motorcycle might be nice. I don't need to go party every night, a few times per month is fine. I'm fine with cooking and going native with my diet. My main extra expenses would be traveling around Colombia and an annual return to the US for a few days.

I just don't want to accept an offer and find money too tight after I get there.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1981969]In the next 10 days I expect to get a job offer in Medellin. I can't say much about the job, except that the work environment should be almost perfect for me. The offer is long-term, leading to residency and probable future dual citizenship.

I have no problem with down-sizing and am willing to move with a few suitcases and a few boxes of keepsakes. I'm also considering a small business to supplement my income. I also plan on an immersion course in Spanish to improve my skills.

The question is, how much is enough? Housing may be provided, or subsidized. How much of an income will be enough to get by comfortably?

I don't need a car, although a motorcycle might be nice. I don't need to go party every night, a few times per month is fine. I'm fine with cooking and going native with my diet. My main extra expenses would be traveling around Colombia and an annual return to the US for a few days.

I just don't want to accept an offer and find money too tight after I get there.[/QUOTE]I think there are many better web sites for this sort of information. Just google it. Here's one example: [URL]http://www.expatexchange.com/colombia/liveincolombia.html[/URL].

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Crypton;1981976]I think there are many better web sites for this sort of information. Just google it. Here's one example: [URL]http://www.expatexchange.com/colombia/liveincolombia.html[/URL].

Good luck![/QUOTE]There are better websites, but I prefer to get a range of perspectives. A 20 year old sharing an apartment with 6 people and living on Ramen noodles might have a different answer than a 50 or 60 year old ex-pat who likes to go out for a massage once in awhile.

More perspectives allows me to make better choices.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;1907815]MDE 6.30-7.4. 16.

Transportation:

I love Copa Airlines but my goodness, the 6 am departure just kills me as I have to drive 2 hrs to get to the airport in and. O. So this was a 6:49 departure time which meant to be safe I needed to be there at 4:49 am Which means I have to leave my house at 2:29 am which means I need to wake up at 1:29 am which means I can't really sleep the night before an early morning flight. So starting out worn out from the get go. Uneventful flight from MSYPTY MDE. Mansion Taxi waiting on me with my name on a placard. To easy not to go thru the Mansion Drivers. Like someone else said, and IMHO, we are at our most vulnerable coming from & going to the airport with CCs, Passport, cash & any other valuables to risk a for hire airport taxi. Split a cab with another guy that sat next to me on the plane so it was only $15 USD. On the return flight it was 75 k COP which was about $26. Again, the peace of mind was worth it to me. Never took a bus or the metro while down there because I found the taxi fares ridiculously cheap. The most I spent on a one way trip was $5. Mostly short trips to Centro, Mayorista, the cigar shop on C10, etc. A taxi from the M1 up the hill to the M2 was 5 k COP which was about $1.75 USD which was well worth it after several beers & a Piasa in tow. Apparently, 5 K COP was the minimum for getting in a cab although the meter starts at 2,700 COP I believe and doesn't get over 3500 COP from M1 to M2.

Money exchange:

Went to Oviedo Mall to the left on Poblado Ave when coming down the hill from either the M1 or M2. Exchanged $USD on Thu at the Western Union in the mall at a rate of 2850 COP to $1 US. I made the mistake of paying my M bill in USD to get the 20% discount, but little did I know, their exchange rate was 2818 to 1. After that, I relied on my Schwab card at the ATMs & got around 2843 to 1.

Room:

Room 7 at the M2 was all a guy could ask for. The A / see was to cold, I had hot water but it took about 3-4 min to warm up in the shower, mini-fridge was great for bottled water & beer. 4 towels per day was quite enough & the staff was more than adequate cleaning the room & restocking the towels. If there was noise from the other guys I didn't hear it. M2 was plenty quiet. Walking down the hill was no problem. After the 2nd or 3rd time walking up, I said to heck with that & just got a 5 k cab when I could.

Food:

Breakfast at the M2 every morning was more than filling. 2 or 3 eggs scrambled with cheese or ham (the ham looked a lot like baloney to me), a piece of toast & either pineapple or papaya had me good to go each morning. Ate at Mondongos, Calle 10, and the steak was awesome as were all the sides. One day for lunch, we went down from the M1 & to the Left on Ave. Poblado was a place called JC Deliciosa where they had an array of Arepas. I had the large Mar why Tierra Peru (26,900 COP) & the Mango Milk (6500 COP) & both were over the top awesome. The smaller arepa would have been more than adequate.

When we went to Mayorista, I had a rotisserie chicken & a bottle of some kinda of agua con gas from one of the little restaurants for about 13 k COP. It was surprisingly good. One night ate at Barbacoa Hamburgers & Beer, to the right on Ave. Poblado. Probably $15 USD or so but the burgers were big enough to make two meals out of. Very good burger & beer within a 5 min walk from the M1. Sun July 3rd for the Pool Party, they served tacos which. Well. They were tacos & filled you up. They were fine and that's all I'll say about that. Overall the food, especially in the restaurants was extremely good.

Touring / Sight seeing:

Went to Mayorista one night with a couple of ISG guys & had a good time only because I was with them. I would not have wanted to be there by myself. To many shady looking characters casing the group of gringos. I'm not a young man anymore & probably couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag anymore so I really don't care for places like that anymore. Went to Fase II after that & had a good time but no body pulled a chica from there. I promise to myself to get out more next trip.

Random thoughts:

I.

And reading more than 200 pages of the ISG forum in preparation for my first trip to MDE, several things stuck with me.

-1) The Paisas are really some of the most beautiful women in the world. There are beautiful women on every corner of the globe but my goodness, even the average ones were hot in the MDE!

-2) Some people are not happy unless they are bitching. One guy whom we ran into at Fase II was complaining about there being no skinny women. I quickly surveyed the scene & counted 6 or 7 chicas that were at least 9's & couldn't have weighed more than 47 kilos. Un-freaking-believable!! Then at breakfast he kept referring to Angeles City in the Philippines & how he could walk 20 yds out of his room & get 100 girls that weighed 90#. Well this ain't the AC Dorothy! Be glad you are here & quit bitching about how hard it is to find a spinner!

-3) Retirement. My thoughts are, if you have to rely on someone else to pay your way, or you can't afford a $3 cab ride because you can get a bus for 25 cents, then don't brag about being retired. You should have worked a little longer. You missed the lecture on what you need to retire comfortably. Although, one should not be a Mr. BigShot & throw money around like he just won the lottery, if one has to ride the bus because he can't afford a cab, get someone else to pay his way, give a girl $13 in a cesspool of an MP / casa in lieu of $50 for a comfortable 2 hour session at his apartment, etc. , etc. , etc. , then he completely missed the idea and timing of when to retire. I guess if some people didn't self-gloss, they would have no sense of worth at all. Again, Un-freaking-believable!

-4) I alluded to this in my preliminary report but will bring it up again. While most of the guys I met at the M1 & M2 were pretty cool & congenial, there were 2 that stick out in my mind as being on the other side of the coin. One was the complainer I referenced in #2) above. No need to expand to much more on this. He seemingly was blaming his inability to find a suitable Piasa on lack of available talent! Really, anybody else on the face of the planet ever have any trouble getting the hook-up in MDE with 150 K COP on their hand? I didn't think so. The other doofus I met was so proud of his Spanish that he told me he was fluent 3 times in the first 5 minutes of meeting him at breakfast one morning. Then he proceeds to start bragging about how he is about to retire in one year & he is a professor & then he says, "I'm a professor and I'm good at it! Really? You're so good that nobody except your immediate family & the students that took your class know who the fluke you are? Un-freaking-believable. You have to go down to the MDE & self gloss like a 4th grader trying to get noticed? Then, a day or two later I hear him talking to a cabbie & I'm telling you Peggy Hill from King of the Hill is 10 X more fluent than he was. Cartoon Spanish at it's finest! OK, enough of the rant. Everyone else I met was nice enough that these 2 clowns didn't ruin it for me. Are & be were as nice as could be & went out of their way to help me when they could. I couldn't ask for more pleasant owners!!

Chicas:

PM me with an email add for a detailed chica report. All I will put here is, for a first timer to MDE, I don't see how I could have done better than the Mansion girls. WOW! No wonder some guys don't ever leave the Mansion.

You can have my share of Mayorista. We saw 2 worth calling spinners & do-able. The rest were sloppy, dumpy or silicone overloaded. You can also have my share of the casas. I'll go back one more time next trip, but if the experience is similar to this trip, the savings is not worth it. Does anyone really think they change the sheets after each pop? My vote is no & that is downright F-in nasty!! The 2 I pulled seemed rushed to get back in the rotation.

I know it's long and drawn out but I wanted to put as much detail as possible so as not to be accused of not contributing!!

Until next time.

El Mechanico[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report. It has helped me a lot while preparing for my first trip.

Two quick questions:

1. Since I plan on paying in pesos at the Mansion to take advantage of the discount offered will I be able to easily find an ATM at the airport to pull the requisite money? Some airports have ATMs everywhere while others seem to be sparse when it comes to ATMs.

2. AFAYK, is 150 k still the "general" compensation for the ladies at Casa Blanca?

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Xxnegrito;1976655]I am an old member of this forum but retired when I married a beautiful paisita I met in MDE 6 years ago. Last week I decided to visit my old mongering ways at least for a day. I booked a room at the hotel central plaza, 75 k cop x night just 3 blocks from the action, very clean and rather quiet, really good service, OK food and chica friendly, 12 k for an additional guest. I decided to go to Luna Lunera, it was early and found out they don't have any shows till after 9 pm. Well ordered a beer and the girl at the front desk asked me if I wanted a presentation, there were only 4 girls, only one that was cute for my taste, blondish hair, big ass and tits, her name is Valentina, the other ones were not my type. The girl from the reception desk quoted me 150 K for 1 hour, I couldn't take my eyes off that ass, clearly man made, but juicy all the same, I decided to have Valentina sit with me for a drink and read her vibes. She was very friendly, very touchy and chatty, after the 2nd beer I decided I was ready to see that big ass naked, we went to the reception desk to pay for the services, 150 k for an hour, 24 k for my 2 beers, 20 k for her Kaluah, 12 k for 2 rubbers, off we go to the room, we both get undressed and I start sucking those tits, and to my surprise they are natural double DS, we shower and go to the bed, start talking, my hands are exploring her ass and pussy while I lick and suck her nipples, she moans and grinds her pussy on my dick, am so hard it hurts, she tells me to lay on the bed and gets on top, puts her tits on my face and slides up and down my belly getting really close to my dick, she turns to give me a BBBJ, and I finger her pussy, it feels wet and tight, I asked her to sit on my face, I eat her pussy till she starts to tremble, she gets the rubber on and mounts me reverse cowgirl, we go at it hard, it feels really good, then we change to mish, then doggy, that's when I lose it and pop, we laid down for a bit..[/QUOTE]Having read this report I noted that bareback was on offer. Is this a regular thing on offer with a lot of the girls?

[QUOTE=Lou32;1981985]Thanks for the great report. It has helped me a lot while preparing for my first trip.

Two quick questions:

1. Since I plan on paying in pesos at the Mansion to take advantage of the discount offered will I be able to easily find an ATM at the airport to pull the requisite money? Some airports have ATMs everywhere while others seem to be sparse when it comes to ATMs.

2. AFAYK, is 150 k still the "general" compensation for the ladies at Casa Blanca?

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]1. The Mansion will allow you to pay your balance up to 72 hours after arriving. They are quite aware that most of us don't arrive to MDE with lots of pesos in our wallet. There is a Citibank ATM a couple blocks from the Mansion. There are also a few ATMs at the airport (including a Citibank). No need to do a gigantic withdrawal at the airport.

2. IMO it still is, although I'm sure we could fill up several pages discussing just this. I was just there before the holidays, and most of the girls at the Mansion I paid 150 k for short-time (and I'm pretty picky as far as looks). However, if one is easily intimidated by attractive women, they may end up paying more. The girls are experts at working your insecurities.

Some of the girls told me 200 k to which I replied "sure if I can stick it up your ass. " Surprisingly, two of them consented on this trip! Whatever you do when discussing price, keep it light-hearted. IMO you want to find a balance between being a pushover and being cheap.

[QUOTE=Combo;1982025]1. The Mansion will allow you to pay your balance up to 72 hours after arriving. They are quite aware that most of us don't arrive to MDE with lots of pesos in our wallet. There is a Citibank ATM a couple blocks from the Mansion. There are also a few ATMs at the airport (including a Citibank). No need to do a gigantic withdrawal at the airport.

2. IMO it still is, although I'm sure we could fill up several pages discussing just this. I was just there before the holidays, and most of the girls at the Mansion I paid 150 k for short-time (and I'm pretty picky as far as looks). However, if one is easily intimidated by attractive women, they may end up paying more. The girls are experts at working your insecurities.

Some of the girls told me 200 k to which I replied "sure if I can stick it up your ass. " Surprisingly, two of them consented on this trip! Whatever you do when discussing price, keep it light-hearted. IMO you want to find a balance between being a pushover and being cheap.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the excellent reply!

I figured that the girls will smell new meat on me and go for 200 k but if the vets are holding the line at 150 k I will try to do the same (in a friendly way, of course).

[QUOTE=Lou32;1982143]Thank you for the excellent reply!
I figured that the girls will smell new meat on me and go for 200 k but if the vets are holding the line at 150 k I will try to do the same (in a friendly way, of course).[/QUOTE]Hold the line, don't try to hold it. That is the general going rate at that location. So you shouldn't even consider anything higher. In fact, you can even negotiate for 120 k. I banged a girl from there for 120 during my 2nd trip there. When you go, just talk to a few girls that you like, feel them out, and have fun. The going rate is 150, so no need to talk price (unless she tries to get more or if you feel like negotiating a lower rate).

Go to some casas in centro during the afternoon too. That will really help you understand what's available and for how much! And if you are looking for action at night and the girls where you are staying act shitty, Parque Lleras is right up the street with plenty to choose from. Don't forget about Fase II. You have plenty of options.

In the Mayorista area of Medellin.

You find lots of talent for as low as COP12'000 (twelve thousand).

The girls even come to your hotel and stay until you are pleased.

Take a look at these spinners.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkmFCNvYAx0[/URL]

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1982164]Hold the line, don't try to hold it. That is the general going rate at that location. So you shouldn't even consider anything higher. In fact, you can even negotiate for 120 k. I banged a girl from there for 120 during my 2nd trip there. When you go, just talk to a few girls that you like, feel them out, and have fun. The going rate is 150, so no need to talk price (unless she tries to get more or if you feel like negotiating a lower rate).

Go to some casas in centro during the afternoon too. That will really help you understand what's available and for how much! And if you are looking for action at night and the girls where you are staying act shitty, Parque Lleras is right up the street with plenty to choose from. Don't forget about Fase II. You have plenty of options.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lou32;1981985]Thanks for the great report. It has helped me a lot while preparing for my first trip.

Two quick questions:

1. Since I plan on paying in pesos at the Mansion to take advantage of the discount offered will I be able to easily find an ATM at the airport to pull the requisite money? Some airports have ATMs everywhere while others seem to be sparse when it comes to ATMs.

2. AFAYK, is 150 k still the "general" compensation for the ladies at Casa Blanca?

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Just got back, I was there 12/26-12/29.

-1) As stated below, the Mansion gives you 72 hrs to pay cash to take advantage of the 20% cash discount. I would pay in pesos as their exchange rate is a little lower than the ATM or the Cambio offices in the Oviedo mall. There was an ATM in the casino on 43 to the left as you walk down from the M1 (orM2) but it is no longer there or they won't let you access it, however, if you keep walking just a bit, past JC Deliciosa & Starbucks, turn left at Starbucks & walkup to the 2nd floor there is an ATM there. There was also a cop, security guard there every time I went.

-2) I paid 1 Paisa 200 k cop only because she was there waiting for me when I arrived. I had kept in touch with her & she showed up so I gave her what she asked for, 200 K. Well worth it. The rest I gave 150 k, 2 of them taxi $$ & 2 dinner because I enjoyed their company. IMO probably for a girl already on the compound, 150 K or if she comes to you by special request the next day or whatever, taxi money should be appropriate.

Hope this helps.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;1982279]Just got back, I was there 12/26-12/29.

-1) As stated below, the Mansion gives you 72 hrs to pay cash to take advantage of the 20% cash discount. I would pay in pesos as their exchange rate is a little lower than the ATM or the Cambio offices in the Oviedo mall. There was an ATM in the casino on 43 to the left as you walk down from the M1 (orM2) but it is no longer there or they won't let you access it, however, if you keep walking just a bit, past JC Deliciosa & Starbucks, turn left at Starbucks & walkup to the 2nd floor there is an ATM there. There was also a cop, security guard there every time I went.

-2) I paid 1 Paisa 200 k cop only because she was there waiting for me when I arrived. I had kept in touch with her & she showed up so I gave her what she asked for, 200 K. Well worth it. The rest I gave 150 k, 2 of them taxi $$ & 2 dinner because I enjoyed their company. IMO probably for a girl already on the compound, 150 K or if she comes to you by special request the next day or whatever, taxi money should be appropriate.

Hope this helps.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I am headed to MDE in March. I was in Bogotá last year. I am renting a condo so not staying at the Mansion. A couple of questions.

Can I go to the Mansion even if not staying.

What is the best way to set girls up in advance of my trip?

FYI, in order to reserve a room, you have to secure with a credit card. Your card will be charged a full night rate, and not be given the 20% discount. You can pay cash and receive the discount for the remainder of your stay, but one of those days will be a full price charge to your credit card. If there's a way around this, I was not made aware of by the staff at the desk. Not a big deal, but just wanted to give a heads up.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;1982279]Just got back, I was there 12/26-12/29.

-1) As stated below, the Mansion gives you 72 hrs to pay cash to take advantage of the 20% cash discount. I would pay in pesos as their exchange rate is a little lower than the ATM or the Cambio offices in the Oviedo mall. There was an ATM in the casino on 43 to the left as you walk down from the M1 (orM2) but it is no longer there or they won't let you access it, however, if you keep walking just a bit, past JC Deliciosa & Starbucks, turn left at Starbucks & walkup to the 2nd floor there is an ATM there. There was also a cop, security guard there every time I went.

Hope this helps.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1982164]Hold the line, don't try to hold it. That is the general going rate at that location. So you shouldn't even consider anything higher. In fact, you can even negotiate for 120 k. I banged a girl from there for 120 during my 2nd trip there. When you go, just talk to a few girls that you like, feel them out, and have fun. The going rate is 150, so no need to talk price (unless she tries to get more or if you feel like negotiating a lower rate).

Go to some casas in centro during the afternoon too. That will really help you understand what's available and for how much! And if you are looking for action at night and the girls where you are staying act shitty, Parque Lleras is right up the street with plenty to choose from. Don't forget about Fase II. You have plenty of options.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify for Lou32, you should specify the price before bringing a girl up to your room. For frequent visitors going with a girl they've been with before, this may not be necessary.

However for a first-time visitor, it's better to avoid misunderstandings.

Thanks for all of your advice, guys. The set-up at Hotel M sounds exactly like Blackbeards in the Dominican Republic so it seems familiar. As long as the girls are GFE and are up for staying over night on occasion I'll be a happy guy.

See ya'll in Medellín!

The only way to receive 20% discount on your deposit is to pay in cash while you are at M1 for your next trip, if you are unsure of your dates, that's ok, just notify the hotel when you are sure of your dates, be sure to keep your receipt.

[QUOTE=Judd;1982349]FYI, in order to reserve a room, you have to secure with a credit card. Your card will be charged a full night rate, and not be given the 20% discount. You can pay cash and receive the discount for the remainder of your stay, but one of those days will be a full price charge to your credit card. If there's a way around this, I was not made aware of by the staff at the desk. Not a big deal, but just wanted to give a heads up.[/QUOTE]