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Hey guys, I met this great girl that works in the Soapy MP and want to take her out for 3 or 4 days to the beach or somewhere. What is normally expected per day based on her taking time off from work? She normally gets 3000 and is a sideline girl.Let me know what is expected or fair to give her per day that she takes off.Thanks guys! Zero
[QUOTE=Zerocoolbkk]Hey guys, I met this great girl that works in the Soapy MP and want to take her out for 3 or 4 days to the beach or somewhere. What is normally expected per day based on her taking time off from work? She normally gets 3000 and is a sideline girl.Let me know what is expected or fair to give her per day that she takes off.Thanks guys! Zero[/QUOTE]Prices vary from place to place, but in general, takeout is triple what one session would cost, so figure 9,000 per day. You can, however, always negotiate, and during these difficult times, you might succeed in getting a lower price. Ask, and if she quotes 9,000, counter with 5,000, and perhaps settle on 6,000 or 7,000.
[QUOTE=Canyon]Prices vary from place to place, but in general, takeout is triple what one session would cost, so figure 9,000 per day. You can, however, always negotiate, and during these difficult times, you might succeed in getting a lower price. Ask, and if she quotes 9,000, counter with 5,000, and perhaps settle on 6,000 or 7,000.[/QUOTE]Consider that the girl probably makes 50 to 60% of the 3000, then 3 times that (but depends on how many customers she gets per day, some get only 1 or 2, others are very busy).So I conclude that 9000 is possibly unnecessarily high. She is probably going to be very happy with 5K to 6K Baht right now. I know one lower price category soapy girl that would think 4K was a hell of a lot as business is not booming.On the other hand my Utopia girl would be very disinterested by 4K and require probably 7K per day so its very dependent on how much money she makes normally, how bored she is with work, how much she likes you, how badly she needs money now, etc.You have to judge her super-class level carefully.I would definitely prefer her to mention a price first as its easy to be way off the mark, either too low or too high.Some girls don't want to go to the beach at all. Scared of getting darker skin.
[QUOTE=Striker34]I have to agree with the previous reports that Yok is attractive, very talented, orgasmic, charming, and fun to be with. Definitely a star![/QUOTE]After having spent the past 2 hours with Yok I have to say that your description above is a gross understatement.
Is there anybody with recent experience at AVIVA massage Suk. soi 8 ?? Do they offer anal?I will be back to BKK next week.Thanks and regards to everybody.FV
[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor]Is there anybody with recent experience at AVIVA massage Suk. soi 8 ?? Do they offer anal?I will be back to BKK next week.Thanks and regards to everybody.FV[/QUOTE]I've always had good luck at Aviva but YMMV. Some do offer anal but it's not a necessity for me so in Jan this year I did not attempt on the girl I had.
[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor]Is there anybody with recent experience at AVIVA massage Suk. soi 8 ?? Do they offer anal?I will be back to BKK next week.Thanks and regards to everybody.FV[/QUOTE]I too had always good experiences at Aviva.I think Pang could satisfy your request.
Thanks guys for the update on Catherines and Defense,BTW: whats the current prices for these 2 places?PT
I dropped by here a few nights ago to see what's behind the big neon. Walked in, little lounge area with some tables and flatscreen TVs on the walls. Kinda dead, one table occupied. No one approaches me, so I approach desk at the back of the room. Ask so do they have massage here? Papasan takes over from receptionist, says yes have Japanese lotion massage with HJ for 999 (discounted from 1299), and he points out a lady on a flatscreen. Instead of a fishbowl they have closed circuit TV on a room with couches against the wall, occupied by a single lady at that time. Pretty useless for picking someone, angle from above so you can't see face and image too small to distinguish features anyway. No more information was volunteered, and I didn't feel like dragging it out of him, so I wandered off. The reason I say it's strange is that places like Akane or Sazanka seem to trump this place in every way -- friendly staff, clear menu, choice of ladies, and many customers -- yet this place looks more expensively outfitted. I guess there's more to it .. Location: walk south about 50m from Sutthisan MRT. There's a club of some kind next door.
Interesting but not unexpected comments.First up, you are the customer and you decide what you want, what you are willing to pay and who it will be with.Thai girls are lazy, and in this sense they all try to play on emotions that you should only take them, its bad to butterfly etc.I have said this time and time again, and say it again, girls who perform very well should get paid standard amounts (eg 1500B for FS).If you pay them an extra tip for standard service, they get lazy and expect more and more.Owing to this, they will try to keep their claws into those who overpay. They will still go with those who pay normal, but their ideal customer is the over payer.The over payer does not get anything extra, she is simply getting the most buck for her bang.All part of this charade is to try to make her "good tipper" get emotionally involved, either by "falling in love", or "not wanting to hurt her", or "not being a bad butterfly" or whatever they can to play on your emotions. They know most farang tourists are so used to getting abused by Western women, that the same "timid male" can be invoked by playing on their emotions in Thailand.All I will say is; You are the customer You decide what you want You do what you want You take who you want You do not care what yesterdays girl thinks. Its your cash, not hers, if she pays you she can decide, if you pay her she has no right to complain about what you do afterwards.There is no need to pay over 1500 baht for FS anywhere, loads of Thai stunners do it with Thai guys for less. What makes anyone think they have to pay more is beyond me.Its nice how the pre-credit crisis, I want it bigger than you, better than you, more expensive than you, newer than you, attitude that made many men feel parting with 6000 baht or 7000 baht for one night with a girl was ok, is now ending and desperation is beginning to sink in that the times of being able to rip off any tourist by getting them to pay more and more for standard service are ending too.Quite simply, 500 baht is a hand job, 1000 baht is a blow job, and 1500 baht is full sex at any decent massage place.If you want to pay more there are plenty of places willing to help you lose your money, just like Ferrari still sell cars for hundreds of thousands of dollars that will drive you from A to B just as well as a Toyota will.And for sure, massage girls will be very happy to take a 2000 baht tip or 300 baht tip and pretend you are "number 1" for them, while providing just the same service to someone paying 1500 baht too.Its time for mongers to wake up and smell the coffee. These girls will play your emotions. To them you are a walking ATM and its their mission to extract as much as possible from the ATM, and if they enjoy it or not, the objective of getting the money and keeping that money as a stable income is there.The world has changed, the abuse of credit and paying over the top for standard things is over, and that feeds down all avenues, even to topping in mongering places in Bangkok.Don't over tip.Don't let them play your emotions.And enjoy![QUOTE=TimTimGuy]I was able to gain an extra day/night in Bangkok this week and I thought it would be good time to check out Tulip and find a replacement for my regular, the newly married Ms Nong. I arrived in Bangkok fairly late and it was probably after 21h30 before I got to Tulip. I introduced myself to Ms Nim at the desk, and explained my mission. She handed me the book. It?s been a long time since I looked at the book. Geez, the photos are just terrible! I asked to meet the ladies in person. Downstairs I went and I was surprised to see about 15 to 20 ladies present. Business is slow. I introduced myself and what I was interested in. (Well, they knew what I was interested in when I walked down the stairs, right?) Some chit-chat followed before I asked one of the ladies if she was interested in going out with me for the night. Offer accepted and I made the financial arrangements upstairs, while she changed.I?ve spent most of the last 3 days and all of nights with this lady. I?ve learned that- ? The Tulip downstairs is a snake pit of gossip. Hormonal imbalances pour fuel on the fire.? The girls really lose status if we butterfly. The second day, my new friend stopped in and got a ton of questions from her colleagues about whether TTG was coming back to choose another lady. The guys who butterfly get badmouthed, too. (Go figure. Prostitutes criticizing us for sexual promiscuity?)? During the discussion when I learned about this status losing/gaining, my friend said ?It?s ok you want another Tulip girl. I know guys want different sometimes.? Right. Later, in bed she asked me not to go with another Tulip girl. Please. Between the first statement and the second, we were watching a Thai movie about some guy who cheats on his wife. My friend said, ?If my husband ever do that, I cut off his dick.? Gulp! ? My new friend will not eat western food ? except for ice cream, which she consumes with gusto and in large amounts. ? She looks ridiculous in sexy underwear and my socks (because her feet get cold.) She looks much better without the underwear.? After I gave her a present of Valentines chocolates in bed, she said ?Oh yeh! You take off my bikini then give me present!? I told her that was from the heart. If a guy gives her chocolates first, be sure he wants to get her pants off.Nope, no name guys. Just an insight into what it?s like to spend more than two hours with one of the ladies. More to come. ~TTG[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Centaurus]The behavior is actually so different that I've been wondering whether the fun atmosphere in Akane is due to management policy.[/QUOTE]Yes, I believe so. All the Akane ladies I have been with praise their Manager because he is said to be very generous, taking them on many paid holidays (always all together). I can guarantee you that many Regular run businesses don't do half of that for their own employees.I have taken many girls from Akane adn Never had any of the Butterfly bullshit you see elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Canyon]In my experience, the men who fight for the last baht are really not very happy and really don't enjoy life as much as the more generous people.[/QUOTE]Opebo might disagree to that.I for one don't overtip. Tip is considered a monetary reward for great performance so if the performance was ok, why tip?
My new Fav Massage Place (Sorry guys, I will keep it a secret for now) was not very busy and I got to talk with the Cashier/Mamasan who told me that 50% of her clientele was from Japan and the Other half from the UK (mostly expats, so guys who know what is good).We got to talk about business adn she said that despite the overall slowdown they have been doing ok due to a steady stream of Local business (Good for them). She of course starts to recognize me now and I get the VIP room Free of charge when it is not Occupied (see pic attached; expats in the know will recognize it).The girl I wanted was busy so I went in with a recommendation from the mamasan. She Chose miss N for me.We went up the room and I was happy about the VIP treatment (for sure will make for repeat business).I stripped and went to shower while she went to get her box. I was surprised when she joined me in the shower and started to give me a thorough wash followed by a BBBJ. Wow! Either the mamas and asked her to take good care of me or she does that to All customers. As she was giving me a very energetic BBBJ she smiled and paused to ask me “if you can finish many time, can finish inside now” I wasn’t sure whether I heard correctly, but I got the impression she was offering me a BBBJCIM in the Shower and more action to come on the bed. I am only a weak man who can’t say no to a woman so after a few minutes more, I let myself go inside her mouth. Great feeling! She washed me again and we moved to the bed.Am I an obvious man? Am I so easy to read? She did not even make any attempt at reaching for the oil bottle and went straight back to rimming and balls licking which got me hard again. I let her suck for another 10 minutes or so before flipping her and giving her a nice DATY round (she actually guided one of my fingers in her ass and seemed to take a lot of pleasure from it). We moved into 69 for some more time before she couldn’t take it anymore, out came the condom which she delicately rolled with her mouth. She commented on the Strawberry flavor and how she loved it (she even gave me a great DFK so that I could have a taste also).Without wasting any time she went on a cowgirl position, complimenting me on how hard my dick still was (yes, that’s pure TG Ego polishing for you, make the Farang feel good about himself LOL) and rode me very hard and fast. When I wanted to switch Positions she kept me down and I think was really after a cowgirl orgasm. She achieved her goal of wetting my groin area before collapsing on me and giving me some good French Kisses. I was still hard so Laid her down and went on a Mish(ion). I could see however that while she was enjoying herself, she looked tired and she told me she was tired from the earlier orgasm already. I didn’t bother continuing as I am not really into Necrophilia but asked her to finish me off with a BJ. She gave me another BBBJCIM and we cuddled for some time before she asked me if I wanted “one more”?I was also drained so we made our way to the shower.I did not realize that the initial 60 minutes Massage turned into a 2h30mn fuck-a-thon. Not a drop of Oil was used. I rewarded her accordingly for her efforts and left a VERY happy customer
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