Budapest

[QUOTE=Jonners; 1482965]You use words like stupidest and laughable and then say you are not being insulting. I have to disagree. Yes I have shot a lot of porn. You have done only 10 shoots? Yet still you continue to argue with me. I'm not saying I am always right but nothing you have written has made me change my opinion. You say that you don't use escorts but continue arguing this point. If a girl agrees to go bareback for escorting you will need a med test. If you are protected you will not. To me there is no difference between a private shoot and escorting. They are the same thing. Therefore do the girls escort. If they allow private shoots. Yes they do. It's not important for me if they do.

As for UK, Germany, France and med countries being cheaper than Budapest. They are cheaper. If you look at the porn girls in Budapest they are increasing numbers of girls from overseas. They go.

Because they can earn more money. For example one Spanish girl.

Shooting in buda asked whether I wanted to shoot her in Berlin I told her the rates and she has gone quiet. It is a lot less than Budapest. You think that because Budapest is in Eastern Europe it should be cheap to shoot porn. It isn't. There are a lot of big porn companies there which mean there is a lot of work for girls and prices are high. So why don't the porn companies move. For the reason you go there. There are a lot of porn girls there to shoot and also the skills of cameramen etc with the normal film industry is very high.

Lastly if you look at my reports you will see photos of some of my shoots and reports of shoots I have done. Why don't you post anything? You just say I slept with this or that porn girl. Not very helpful for others.[/QUOTE]I disagree with almost everything that you have written. It's still not clear are you pro (shooting for commercial reasons) or are you doing private shootings for yourself only. UK, Germany, France and Med countries may be cheaper if you're talking about about some local unknown girls. If you you're talking about about top Hungarian porn star and that her price will be cheaper if the shooting is in the countries that you mentioned, that's just ridiculous as you'd have to pay for plane ticket from Budapest and back. Just because I don't use escort, that doesn't mean I'm ignorant about it. I have friends who prefer to use escort and they laughed when I've told them what you've said (about showing a test to a girl at some escort location). They show them more money and some girls say yes to a bareback and some say no. I've seen none of the photos you posted in Budapest thread for the simple reason you posted all of your photos in a thread for a different (Russian) city. I'm not here to promote or advertise anything. I'm just sharing my experiences. I'm very grateful to my private contact and we have an agreement about these shootings. One of the things in that agreement is that all pics and video footage belongs to me and it's for my personal usage only. Look, you have your opinion, I have mine. We can agree to disagree. I'll not tell you what to do, but don't you do it neither (you can't give orders to me). Enjoy whatever is that you're doing.

[QUOTE=Bahama John;1483247]Massage was awesome, I did not even ask for happy ending, it was perfect without it. I left her 30% tip, luv her.[/QUOTE]This is a sex guide, not a commercial spa ad section. Utter bollocks, tons of fake reviews, paid ads, self-touting, and multiple user names by massagehouse. Seems the shit hit the fan really bad after the police raids. Are you now really promoting regular massage with no happy ending but 30% tip, and claiming that girls will say "it's a special pleasure to touch your body", WTF? LOL.

[QUOTE=LoopTackle; 1483257]Hello gents,

I am breakin in here and try to get some of your attention while you are at the subject PSE, but also try to divert you slighty of your current mailthread.

I'd like to get your advice on the following establishments to get hold of a PSE for my 1st time in Budapest (which maybe will turn into more.) I know that some of you have private connections but I am not that lucky yet.

So Judge Dread, Jonners and maybe of interest for Vance 659, Gerato and Mr Kath too: What can you say if I have narrowed me down to there following, or have I missed the obvious one?

1. [url]www.uksugarbabes.com/[/url]

2. Vipmodelcompanions. Com Michelle Petite and more.

3. [url]www.bugattiescorts.com[/url]

4. Or your best suggestion.

I am heading to Budapest next Monday and staying for 2weeks. Unfortunately a lot of work but at least 2 dags of for some great fun if I will get some of your valuable help!

Many thanks and Yes I will report back absolut my experience.

Cheers,

Looptackle[/QUOTE]The best advice I can give you is to explore and try some options till you find what is satisfactory for you. One of choices you named is uksugarbabes, just one example, they offer Aletta Ocean (big star). If you are like me (I want to take my time, I like to pop at least 2 times and I like anal) you'd have to pay 3600 pounds / 4240 euros to uksugarbabe and book her for 3 hours minimum. And you'd have to pay additional 1500 pounds for photos and filming (if you want that). She's not my type, but if I wanted 3 hours with her and to fuck her ass I'd pay much, much less than that. Plus, accommodation is cheaper in Budapest than in London. So, keep looking till you find what's best for you.

Going bareback with a porn girl? Girls involved in porn forge their health test results regularly, as they need work. Herpes and gonorrhea is everyday reality in the industry, there was a major syphilis breakout in Budapest just a year ago, and hepatitis B and HPV they don't even test for, so a big number of them are infected. There are doctors in Budapest who specialise in complicated STD treatments for porn professionals, they treat things you can't even imagine.

As Rocco Siffredi put it in a press article: "the problem is that girls do too much private escort work outside their porn scenes, that's the likely reason for the syphilis outbreak". And "27 years in this business and I've never seen such a big mess in porn". Read the full stuff, very informative:

[url]http://www.xbiz.com/news/153188[/url]

All porn girls do escorting, mostly on low-end tours, as there isn't enough work in porn, and as Judge Dread pointed out very correctly, seeing 4-10 customers per day on a 10-day tour once a month. Your contact may tell you the girl never escorts, and that the rate is EUR 800 per hour for private shooting, as she only does high-end and very exclusive. Kidding? They are all available for EUR 100 regularly on brothel tours, and private orgies with Johns "when everybody pulls of the rubber" (see Rocco) , as have to pay their bills (and their boyfriends') , so they will work and do anything at any rate.

From an STD risk point of view, the cheap local privats:

[url]www.beszamolok.com[/url]

Might be a safer option. Most of the girls there only escort (no porn) and don't do unprotected sex (as not worth the risk for them at the low rate of EUR 50). Porn girls do it every day for their job, plus go bareback with just about anyone who offers big money. And make no mistake, some STDs spread via oral sex or kissing as well, you don't need to go all the way.

Ok. I am not sure we are getting anywhere with this. You think you know everything so this will be my last post on this subject. The girls I am talking about are the top local talent not some unknown girls (although by trying to say they maybe unknown you agree that at least some girls are cheaper). I will now provide an example. You said you are from the uk? Please see the website below. I have shot with half the main actress list and the majority of the newcomers. They were all cheaper than Budapest!

[url]http://www.babeawards.co.uk/[/url]

As for escorting. At the end of the day if people in porn found out that a girl was providing bareback with guys with no med tests. Her porn work would stop. To be honest most porn girls only start escorting when their porn careers are finished. For the low end Hungarian girls this can be very quick. However have you ever shot with a high end Hungarian girl? You only mention the Russian girls. As for your friends who offer girls money to go bareback I do not think they are seeing high end stars. Probably a mixture of escorts and one / two scene girls.

I also showed your post about what you paid to some of my porn friends including girls and we all laughed. It is possible to do private shoots in Budapest cheaper and if anyone else wants to know how they just need to PM me. Remember the Russian girls you shoot used to shoot for $200 a scene in Russia! Not 700 Euros. Wait a minute. I need to stop laughing. $200. That's started me laughing again! I am sure by the time you post your next post calling me stupid I will have stopped. Or maybe not!

[QUOTE=Judge Dread;1483318]I disagree with almost everything that you have written. It's still not clear are you pro (shooting for commercial reasons) or are you doing private shootings for yourself only. UK, Germany, France and Med countries may be cheaper if you're talking about about some local unknown girls. If you you're talking about about top Hungarian porn star and that her price will be cheaper if the shooting is in the countries that you mentioned, that's just ridiculous as you'd have to pay for plane ticket from Budapest and back. Just because I don't use escort, that doesn't mean I'm ignorant about it. I have friends who prefer to use escort and they laughed when I've told them what you've said (about showing a test to a girl at some escort location). They show them more money and some girls say yes to a bareback and some say no. I've seen none of the photos you posted in Budapest thread for the simple reason you posted all of your photos in a thread for a different (Russian) city. I'm not here to promote or advertise anything. I'm just sharing my experiences. I'm very grateful to my private contact and we have an agreement about these shootings. One of the things in that agreement is that all pics and video footage belongs to me and it's for my personal usage only. Look, you have your opinion, I have mine. We can agree to disagree. I'll not tell you what to do, but don't you do it neither (you can't give orders to me). Enjoy whatever is that you're doing.[/QUOTE]

Hi Looptackle. Turn on your PM (Private Message) and I will try and help you out.

[QUOTE=LoopTackle; 1483257]Hello gents,

I am breakin in here and try to get some of your attention while you are at the subject PSE, but also try to divert you slighty of your current mailthread.

I'd like to get your advice on the following establishments to get hold of a PSE for my 1st time in Budapest (which maybe will turn into more.) I know that some of you have private connections but I am not that lucky yet.

So Judge Dread, Jonners and maybe of interest for Vance 659, Gerato and Mr Kath too: What can you say if I have narrowed me down to there following, or have I missed the obvious one?

1.

[url]www.uksugarbabes.com/[/url]

2. Vipmodelcompanions. Com Michelle Petite and more.

3.

[url]www.bugattiescorts.com[/url]

4. Or your best suggestion.

I am heading to Budapest next Monday and staying for 2weeks. Unfortunately a lot of work but at least 2 dags of for some great fun if I will get some of your valuable help!

Many thanks and Yes I will report back absolut my experience.

Cheers,

Looptackle[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bonzeb; 1483512]Going bareback with a porn girl? Girls involved in porn forge their health test results regularly, as they need work. Herpes and gonorrhea is everyday reality in the industry, there was a major syphilis breakout in Budapest just a year ago, and hepatitis B and HPV they don't even test for, so a big number of them are infected. There are doctors in Budapest who specialise in complicated STD treatments for porn professionals, they treat things you can't even imagine.

As Rocco Siffredi put it in a press article: "the problem is that girls do too much private escort work outside their porn scenes, that's the likely reason for the syphilis outbreak". And "27 years in this business and I've never seen such a big mess in porn". Read the full stuff, very informative:

[url]http://www.xbiz.com/news/153188[/url]

All porn girls do escorting, mostly on low-end tours, as there isn't enough work in porn, and as Judge Dread pointed out very correctly, seeing 4-10 customers per day on a 10-day tour once a month. Your contact may tell you the girl never escorts, and that the rate is EUR 800 per hour for private shooting, as she only does high-end and very exclusive. Kidding? They are all available for EUR 100 regularly on brothel tours, and private orgies with Johns "when everybody pulls of the rubber" (see Rocco) , as have to pay their bills (and their boyfriends') , so they will work and do anything at any rate.

From an STD risk point of view, the cheap local privats:

[url]www.beszamolok.com[/url]

Might be a safer option. Most of the girls there only escort (no porn) and don't do unprotected sex (as not worth the risk for them at the low rate of EUR 50). Porn girls do it every day for their job, plus go bareback with just about anyone who offers big money. And make no mistake, some STDs spread via oral sex or kissing as well, you don't need to go all the way.[/QUOTE]I agree with most of the things you said except three. First, it's not true that all porn stars escort. Second, a girl can't fake her test if I take her to the clinic and wait there while she's doing it. Third, one of my friends who prefers escort has been in Budapest and did meet girls who advertized on the website you named and each and every girl wanted to suck his cock bareback. When he said no and demanded a condom they were all surprised. I know the guy for many years, no reason why he would lie to me.

[QUOTE=Judge Dread;1483610]I agree with most of the things you said except three. First, it's not true that all porn stars escort. Second, a girl can't fake her test if I take her to the clinic and wait there while she's doing it. Third, one of my friends who prefers escort has been in Budapest and did meet girls who advertized on the website you named and each and every girl wanted to suck his cock bareback. When he said no and demanded a condom they were all surprised. I know the guy for many years, no reason why he would lie to me.[/QUOTE]Fair points. Must be very romantic though to walk into a shady Hungarian STD clinic hand-in-hand with a porn girl at daylight, when she looks like a real plain jane without her porn makeup, hair and professional lighting, nothing like her movie image. Would completely put me off. Have you seen this, it's a good laugh?

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/11/porn-stars-without-makeup_n_2853817.html#slide=2206064[/url]

All porn girls escort. Before, during and after their porn career. Full stop. Whomever told you she does not just tried to appear in a better light. And they are the ones who escort at the worst conditions. When you give her EUR 700, only EUR 200 ends up in her pocket, the rest goes to a series of mean blokes who treat them like shit. Why do they escort? Because porn is dead. Only some of the top girls can make some (not serious) money via members-only sites. Less than 1% of the industry. The rest just starves.

The private girls do BBBJ, I agree. They don't do bareback penetration. That's what I meant.

Wow Bonzeb. Reading your posts I wonder how in the diseased porn industry I have done over 200 shoots and never caught anything. Maybe my sperm are so strong they can kill STDs. Anyway it is a risk you take when you shoot porn so I know that one day maybe I will but so far I haven't so maybe things aren't as bad as you make out.

As for 700 euro that Judge Dredd pays them only 200 euro going into their pockets this is just wrong. The girls get paid much better than this. The Budapest porn industry is run by women (all the agents are women) not men. And although the agents don't care about them the girls I know are perfectly happy with them. And no not all the girls escort. Girls do open for various reasons and although some go into escorting I can assure you a number I have shot would never escort.

I have the horrible feeling Bonzeb that this is going to turn into another argument which I don't really want but I had to respond to some of your most glaring inaccuracies. There were many others but I can't be bothered anymore.

[QUOTE=Bonzeb;1483746]All porn girls escort. Before, during and after their porn career. Full stop. Whomever told you she does not just tried to appear in a better light. And they are the ones who escort at the worst conditions. When you give her EUR 700, only EUR 200 ends up in her pocket, the rest goes to a series of mean blokes who treat them like shit. Why do they escort? Because porn is dead. Only some of the top girls can make some (not serious) money via members-only sites. Less than 1% of the industry. The rest just starves.[/QUOTE]

We are not here to argue, but to share useful information. I read all posts with interest, so thanks for the input.

[QUOTE=Bonzeb;1483983]We are not here to argue, but to share useful information. I read all posts with interest, so thanks for the input.[/QUOTE]Good I am glad about that. I tried to restrict my last post to the facts as I know them and not my opinions. Sometimes though facts can be interpreted more than one way)

I agree guys. It's better not to argue. We don't have to agree on everything and it's sure that we won't, but let's try to be friendly.

Hello Jonners,

Sorry no PM yet.

I am sorry but I have not yet reached Senior status basen on my posts (even if I have tried hard last days, but have not got everything approved by moderator). I respect that.

Further to late to send cash as instruction tells, which is my only alternative, since my creditcard is monitored.

I really would have enjoyed your input to help making my upcoming trip to Buda most successful.

Cheers [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

P. S I think this thread rocks and I like how you guys handled your 'dispute' and turned it to something good. We all can have different opinions, and still contribute to the continious growth of this information sharing forum. D. S.

[QUOTE=Jonners;1483595]Hi Looptackle. Turn on your PM (Private Message) and I will try and help you out.[/QUOTE][u][b]EDITOR's NOTE[/b][/u]: [blue]This report was edited to [u]remove email addresses in the text[/u]. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue]

Hi everyone,

I will be heading to Budapest next month and am keen on an erotic massage B2B with BBBJ. Could you suggest the best place.

I noticed that the Japan massage site is down lately and no one has given any reviews about massageandmore (located close to Marriott).

I have also read about the recent raids. Have any of the places shut down? How safe is it to visit these places.

At Jonners and Judge,

Can you suggest me models or agencies for a private pornshoot?

The model must do bareback (with current test too) and if she can travel to Germany it will.

Be a great advantage for me.

Thanks!