[QUOTE=Turgid;2125530]Perhaps she has wisened up and some bloke is now paying her for sex.[/QUOTE]So she got married again? LOL.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2125530]Perhaps she has wisened up and some bloke is now paying her for sex.[/QUOTE]So she got married again? LOL.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2125628]This forum is completely un-PC and should forever stay that way. Mongering, by definition is an un-PC activity. Are we agreed?
So whether a contributor describes his prostitute as a sl*t, hooker, skank, moll or scrubber, why should anyone be offended? The confected outrage from the morality police is puke worthy. The virtue signallers should get back to submitting reports on their latest sexcapades with their Pinay skanks.[/QUOTE]PC or not PC, that's not the question. I think it's just common decency to not talk about women like that. Or people in general for that matter.
But hey it's not such a big deal. Most contributors here don't use these words so I will just ignore the occasional guy / troll who does.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2125628]This forum is completely un-PC and should forever stay that way. Mongering, by definition is an un-PC activity. Are we agreed?
So whether a contributor describes his prostitute as a sl*t, hooker, skank, moll or scrubber, why should anyone be offended? The confected outrage from the morality police is puke worthy. The virtue signallers should get back to submitting reports on their latest sexcapades with their Pinay skanks.[/QUOTE]For some of us who find it distasteful to refer to women in these terms, it's not about political correctness. In fact, given that we mongers have little moral foundation to stand on, it seems ironic to refer to these women in terms that dismiss them as dirt beneath our feet. To attempt to deflect the criticism as pc strikes me as a cop out.
The bigger issue is that degrading language toward any other identity group cheapens humanity more generally. If we are entitled to refer to Pinay prostitutes in these terms, are we willing to accept the consequences of their referring to us as lechers, debauchers, satyrs, rakes, or dirty old men?
It may be possible to compartmentalize our thinking and actions by using these terms in side conversations with other men, such as in this forum, but sweep them from our minds in our interactions with Pinays. But I'm doubtful. Almost a century ago some crusty old guys in Chicago came up with the idea that if we define a situation as real in our minds, then that definition or attitude becomes real in its consequences. So if we put these terms about Pinay prostitutes into common use, our interactions with these women will reflect these attitudes toward them.
Pinay prostitutes pick up on these attitudes from us, and this creates a risk that they begin to regard all foreign mongers as arrogant, inconsiderate assholes. I don't monger in AC, but if I do someday, I would prefer that these women not have a preconception of me as an arrogant asshole.
We and these women have a mutual interest in exploiting each other. They badly need our money, and we really want to have cheap, no strings attached sex with attractive young women whom most of us would never have access to in our home countries. A striking feature that I observe in Pinay prostitutes is the GFE attitude that many of them exhibit. I find this to be quite unique to the Philippines. Why do they do this? Well, it's in their culture. You find this out when you spend time getting to know how they actually live. Why would we want to fuck that up?
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2125704]
The bigger issue is that degrading language toward any other identity group cheapens humanity more generally. [/QUOTE]Exactly. Very good post Soapy.
Unfortunately the above is happening all over the world at the moment which is very disturbing.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2125709]Exactly. Very good post Soapy.
Unfortunately the above is happening all over the world at the moment which is very disturbing.[/QUOTE]Yes, tribalism at its worst.
The more you call women sluts, skanks, bitches, etc. The more you start to believe it and also the other person at the receiving end and the they will start to look at you in the same light. I do not want the girls to look at me as an ugly old ATM with the manners of a mule. It is far easier to believe negative things said about oneself than positive. These girls are poor and uneducated so it is that much easier for them to believe such BS. I refuse to drink or even sit next to such guys because I do not want any of the girls to associate me with such a person.
Most of these girls work to simply survive and to support their families. That is very noble. We choose to be with them because we lack either the money or looks to be with such beautiful girls in our own countries.
I think they are princesses for what they do for me and how they make me feel which is they make me feel younger and very happy. No, I do not over pay or buy them stuff. But the time they are with me they make me feel like a boyfriend so even if we are together for 30 minutes. That makes them my 30 minute girlfriend.
If any of you guys think you are all that a box of chocolates then please use your real first and last name on this site and post the pictures of your "skanky" new friends on your Facebook account and see how fast your friends back home disappear, your family shuns you, and watch how fast you lose your job. So many guys are so brave online and towards poor, young, uneducated women.
One particular girl I have been with 10 times but we are not especially close. She is always smiling and happy. I am not that way. I wish I could be her just 1 day out of the week. Whenever I am depressed or bored I look at her Facbook pix. It is an immediate pick-me-up. I have never seen her mad or sad. One of my worst fears is to see her ever be mad or sad and be the cause of it.
If these girls are sluts, skanks, and bitches. What does that make you going half way around the world to be with them?
Filipinas walk on water!
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2125793]The more you call women sluts, skanks, bitches, etc. The more you start to believe it and also the other person at the receiving end and the they will start to look at you in the same light. I do not want the girls to look at me as an ugly old ATM with the manners of a mule. It is far easier to believe negative things said about oneself than positive. These girls are poor and uneducated so it is that much easier for them to believe such BS. I refuse to drink or even sit next to such guys because I do not want any of the girls to associate me with such a person.
Most of these girls work to simply survive and to support their families. That is very noble. We choose to be with them because we lack either the money or looks to be with such beautiful girls in our own countries.[/QUOTE]In another thread we are talking about the website Seeking Arrangement where the chicks generally cost more. On many of their photos you do not see them taking the money to go grocery shopping to feed their poor families or taking the money giving it to their family's landlord because they are behind on rent. You see them with new Louis Vuitton bags and the iPhone X. So you would also assert that these darlings are doing noble deeds? What part do those designer handbags play in the survival of their families?
And let's say you were walking down the street in Angeles and a guy came up to you and stole your wallet. From what you say he should not be called a thief. After all, he is doing it to survive and support his family and that is very noble.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2125793]If these girls are sluts, skanks, and bitches. What does that make you going half way around the world to be with them?[/QUOTE]We have already been over this. It makes us tricks and johns. Why should we be afraid to call something what it is, even when it pertains to ourselves? Are we supposed to not admit what we are?
It does not matter if a guy chooses to be a medical professional because he wants to make lots of money to buy fancy things and pick up chicks, or because he wants to help people. He is still called a doctor. Likewise, it does not matter if a woman chooses to sleep with men for money to help her family or buy herself the latest fashion. If she fucks for money she is still called what?; regardless of the reason she is doing it. 20 days until I reach Angeles to look for chicks that are not hores, hookers, sluts, and skanks to pay them for sex!
The people who criticize our hobby call our bedmates sluts, skanks etc. These same people think mongers are lower than the prostitutes they pay for sex. I guess that those mongers who refer to wgs in those terms agree.
Some of the previous posts read like an NGO mission. If every poor, uneducated girl would be selling her body, then nobody would have to travel abroad for pussy. Of course unless you are in a fucked up country like Sweden where even that would be impossible. The self declared feminist government wants to prosecute Swedish nationals purchasing p4 p abroad. The problem?. Prostitution is legal in some countries. And to call selling your body as nobel is totally absurd. But then everyone seems to be a hero nowadays as well. So what do I know. I guess a person's individual circumstances and experiences with the AC girls molds that person's make of the AC scene. Yes they are all nice girls and we are a mixed bag of mongers. The transactions may varie, but all we do is purchase their services with all the bells and whistles (youth, GFE, bareback..), and they take our money and all is well.
I'm in AC and after 3 days finally went at out at night. Saturday night. I'll go in reverse order starting w / last night.
Club RA, got there at 7:45. Happy hour drink prices, 70/150 LD, after 8 pm regular price 135/300 LD BF, 3000 p.
(go between 6 and 8 to interview the pussy).
2 sets of 20 dancers in different costumes each set. Mostly average some slightly better than that.
There were maybe 6 I would go back for meaning pretty to very pretty.
Crystal Palace not much except good popcorn.
CLUB XS, maybe 35 dancers w a few standing outs. A good place to take your BF as the dancing shows.
Are decent. 2 shots of tequila 370 p BF 3000 p.
Club Equus, drinks 135/300 (most bars are charging 300 LDs).
2 sets of 20 some nice ones mixed in. There are super spinner twins in there, one in Equus the other in Arcadia.
I saw a world class set of legs last night. They were attached to a decent looker w. Blonde hair. (maybe K only).
Arcadia, drinks 125/250 LD, BF 3000 p. As the other bars w / a few really nice items mixed in w / okay or better (doables).
In Equus and Arcadia I tabled one from each bar and both didn't go w / whitey. The ones I chose were the best of the bunch.
Pristine and low miles. Too bad.
Earlier in my short stay I went to perimeter bars and there wasn't much there. A few in Master Poseidon, their drinks 100/300 LD, BF 2200/2400 p.
Ice Bar nada mucho same w / Platinum Bar. These bars used to be decent and really inexpensive, not anymore. Didn't ask prices. Last June the BF was 1800 p.
I will visit more bars so will have more info later.
My general overview of AC is it's dingier than before. In 2010 the scene was more colorful (more neon, better fields ave, better BG selection, prices etc) now I notice a lot more.
Filipinos wandering around, less westerners. It doesn't seem that busy but the fields clubs mentioned above were semi full. Guys tabling less dancers due to the 300 p LD IMO.
I pulled only 2 women so far, one from Master Poseidon's and one last night from Club RA. The Club RA choice was a very good one and delivered a quality time in the sack and during the BH. The other perimeter dancer was a repeat for me (I saw her 3 times last June) and she just spent too much time in the bar to be fun on the outside. No biggie. She reminded me not to take dancers who've been working in the bar too long. (note; the RA dancer did mention she hates to have to lay down to make a decent living, a bit sad at the time).
As for the AC women not being worth the trip I would say that's false. There were plenty of nice innocent lookers. By plenty I mean a few in each club, that's enough for me to return.
My taste run high and I have some game left, now in my mid sixties. The downside here is the top lookers are either drink s**ts or K only. Still there are ways around this but AC's prettiest are mostly off the market unless you're Asian. It's the same in Thailand but every now and then I get lucky w / my first choice in both places.
As for the morality of this hobby it's no more immoral than being a politician, a lawyer, a banker etc. Where can one find out what is truly moral? Nowhere. Everyone is corrupted to a certain degree. If one gives working people respect, this is moral, this is right. These AC hookers are workers and deserve respect and if you do that you have nothing to be ashamed of. If you think western society is a good example of morality and that's how you gage your own, well you're as lost as they are.
Respect is the key to morality. It's not rocket science. Granted, not all here are capable of that for a myriad of reasons. So be it. It's nature's plan.
My way is a win win as it should be. More later.
[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2125486]A monger forfeits his right to preach morality......[/QUOTE]I take great exception to that statement.
/ rant on.
I am a monger and I consider myself a very moral person.
There is nothing wrong or immoral about any transaction between consenting adults even if the transaction is sexual in nature. Anyone who makes any aspirations that anything concerning sex is somehow immoral they are victims of the Christian dogma that sex is inherently immoral and that any woman who has sex outside of marriage is somehow less a woman.
That is the biggest pile of utter bull dung ever put forward. Sex is a natural function, some argue that sex is the prime motivation of all human activities.
Sex with less than 18-year-old women, sex that is involuntary or forced is immoral. Sex between two or more consenting adults of any gender is not immoral but a purely private matter between them. It is irrelevant what the person being paid for the sexual activities needs the money for, if they need it to feed and house their families or to buy luxury goods then it is their decision to do what they want with the money that they have earned by providing a service.
It is the height of hypocrisy to disparage only one party to the transaction. The puritan practice of blaming the woman and shaming her for her part in the transaction is especially abhorrent to me, especially when this comes from a person who admits to being the male part of the transaction.
/ rant off.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2126011]...the Christian dogma that sex is inherently immoral...Sex with less than 18-year-old women...[/QUOTE]Curious to know where you got the number 18 from, when in the same breath you are criticizing Christian morals. According to history, there was a time when girls were getting married at a younger age.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2125704]For some of us who find it distasteful to refer to women in these terms, it's not about political correctness. In fact, given that we mongers have little moral foundation to stand on, it seems ironic to refer to these women in terms that dismiss them as dirt beneath our feet. To attempt to deflect the criticism as pc strikes me as a cop out...[/QUOTE]Very well said! Thanks.
Age of Consent vs Age of Majority
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Greetings Gentlemen,
The Age of Consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
However, the Age of Consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.
What you need to focus on is the [u]Age of Majority[/u], which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.
Please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2125849]In another thread we are talking about the website Seeking Arrangement where the chicks generally cost more. On many of their photos you do not see them taking the money to go grocery shopping to feed their poor families or taking the money giving it to their family's landlord because they are behind on rent. You see them with new Louis Vuitton bags and the iPhone X. So you would also assert that these darlings are doing noble deeds? What part do those designer handbags play in the survival of their families?[/QUOTE]You are talking about the high end here, which is only a small part of the total P4 P scene.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2125849]If she fucks for money she is still called what?; regardless of the reason she is doing it.[/QUOTE]She is called a prostitute, or a hooker if you like. But not a sl*t or skank or any other deragotory term.