Jakarta

[QUOTE=ArnoldNe;3035117]Ah yes, I had forgotten about these, I had contacted them in my time over there. They promise a lot but you are talking to a faceless person who asks for your hotel name and room, and they were following up rigorously, didn't share girl photos till I shared my hotel info, I waited for some time to see if they follow up aggressively which they did and ultimately I became uncomfortable to share my hotel info with an unknown person so I didn't pull the trigger on this.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply. In retrospect, I had the same feeling and decided not to deal with all that BS. Classic and EMP simplify the process, I. E, you know exactly what you will get and for how much.

Tinder is a lot of work.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3035059]Well then credit where credit is due! Smart girl figured out she can do better. Congrats to her.

It's actually easy to separate the pros from the real girls on Seeking. Easiest tell is how long they are willing to chat. A real girl wants to get to know you a little and will chat back and forth for a few days. A pro has no time for this. They are like "can you meetup tonight"? Or "contact me again when you are in town". Definitely a pro. A couple days of chit chat is a great way to figure out what's up.[/QUOTE]Or maybe the more pro of these pros have already figured that one out? Maybe they are chit-chatting for some days first in order to appear less of a hooker, and then get a bigger payment? ;-)

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3035157]Or maybe the more pro of these pros have already figured that one out? Maybe they are chit-chatting for some days first in order to appear less of a hooker, and then get a bigger payment? ;-)[/QUOTE]Reasonable assertion but in 7 years of using Seeking I have not found this to be the case. This is probably because fair number of guys go on Seeking just to grab a fuck and not have a date. And the pros can do fine with them.

I will point out that Jakarta is an anomaly on Seeming pricing if you define Classic as the usual pro price. Because worldwide what is true is the a "real" Seeking girl will get the same price (or at most 2 x) thst a high quality pro gets for an hour in that same geography. And in places where it's illegal (USA) a Seekibg girl can be less than a pro.

Of course if you use Emporium as the pro reference price, then the rule of seeking girl costs same but for more time and a real date remains basically true.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;3035051]Yes, I stayed at Luminor Pecenongan that's literally next to Emporium. It was second stay and never had a problem. The counter staff don't even look. I usually have girls meet me at the elevator.[/QUOTE]Very nice! I was actually thinking about booking a room there since its close by to emporium, which room did you book (standard / double / suite) and was it OK to your liking?

I went to Lokasari square pretty late at night, almost half past midnight. The place was far from dead, but wasn't bustling either. A mamasan approached me with a girl in tow. The girl looked like early twenties, no kid, young, tight body, and the perfect clothes to show off the body. She wore a top that accentuated her breasts, and very short shorts, and a spunky attitude. She can't have been taller than 5'3. These made her look younger than she was. Mamasan asked for 500 k, pointed to a hotel closeby and said another 100 k. But I managed to negotiate down, and wore her down to 300 k including room. I think she agreed because of how late it was. But we didn't end up going to the hotel she pointed at. Instead, we walked close by and went to a certain hotel Arcadia, a lodge at best. When we reached the hotel the girl confidently and quickly went into a room, and evacuated it for us. A man and a baby came out of the room and went somewhere. The room itself was tiny, barely able to contain the bed that was inside. The girl stripped to reveal a slim and tight body, and a small curvefull of boobs. She had a nice ass that was a delight to grab and slap, which I did. Her pussy was trimmed, and aesthetically looked very pleasing; it didn't look destroyed, like I expected it. Overall, a good deal for three red notes. She washed up in the bathroom that was too tiny to allow the door to open fully, and came out. I got out of my clothes, and explored her body for a couple of minutes. Her skin was soft, and her body was tight, with next to no body fat. But I couldn't see her ribcage either; it wasn't a malnourished look. She tried to sell me a condom, but I told her I didn't want it, and that I'd fuck her bareback. The condom suddenly became free. My hands roamed around her body, exploring every inch of the teenage volleyball player-like body. Her boobs were taut, and I sucked on them for a few minutes. I knew the arrangement didn't really lend itself to any sort of romance or reciprocity, but I still managed to suck her tits and explore her body a little bit. She encouraged me to get on with it. I placed my rock hard (now covered) cock in her face. She started giving a BBBJ, and did a half decent job of it. She seemed to stop every few seconds, but I made it clear that I wanted more, While she sucked my cock, I explored her body with my hand. Soon, I wanted to enter her. I lay on the bed and asked her to come on top. She hesitated initially, but I insisted. She sat on my cock, and started bouncing on it. I'm convinced she did a lot of kegels, because she managed to get a grip with her vagina that was stronger than my hands, and she managed to concentrate that grip on the tip of my penis. I was not expecting that. With every bounce, I could feel the tightness of her pussy lips, unusually tight, right on my dickhead. Her bounce was calculated so she only needed to bounce up and down a few inches, but god, it was effective. I could feel myself come closer to cumming immediately with every half bounce she did. Soon, I caught on. She was trying to make me cum early. So, I stopped her from bouncing on me, I grabbed her upper body and held her in place, while I thrust my cock deep into her. She moaned. Loudly. I started with slow but deep strokes, and she moaned at the end of every stroke, as my cock went deeper than what I imagine she'd normally allow. I thrust upwards into her when she was sitting upright on me. I grabber her boobs, and used them to guide her up and down (and deep) into her warm pussy. She wasn't as wet as I'm used to, but then again, I didn't do any foreplay with her at all. Soon I pulled her close to me by her neck, and fucked her from below. We went at it for a few minutes, and then I wanted to fuck her in doggy. I roller her around, and she put her face down and ass up. I slowly used my cock to part its way into her pussy. It was pretty tight. I then started thrusting into her faster and faster. I pulled her into me with every thrust, using her waist. I slapped her ass, and I loved hearing her moan. We did doggy for a few minutes, and I pulled her hands back while I fucked her. Occasionally, she let out a scream and told me to go "slowly". Soon I entered the jackhammer mode, and I could feel myself cumming. I thrust harder and harder until I came into the condom. The feeling was amazing, like lightning ripping through the body, starting with the tip of my cock, and dissipating everywhere else. She washed again, we dressed up, and said our goodbyes. She definitely wasn't a semi pro, her confidence, her attitude (how it changed after I handed over the money to the mamas an, all made me pause. I loved the youth in her, and I may do again.

Location – Lokasari near KFC.

I may go back again, if same or similar talent is there.

Price – 300 red notes (a little steep for what felt like a pump-and-dump strategy).

I was last in Jakarta before Covid, and at that time I was mainly interested in the scene at Mulia / CJ's. My next stop is again Jakarta I'm probably a little too old for the CJ's scene now as live music doesn't do much for me especially at the sound levels I remember at CJ's. From what I can see reading back through this forum, not much has changed there.

Besides BATS or CJ's, does anyone have any decent hotel recommendations where freelancers are easily available in the lobby area where I can pre-screen the freelancer before I agree to her company? If that isn't a reasonable option. I am looking for a quiet low key place to pick up a decent woman without too much hassle. The bar scene is of no interest to me anymore, and the massage scene seems to me a little too much of same-same.

Besides me being a little less fussy, does anyone have any recommendations? Thanks.

Jakarta seems like a hidden gem where there is large "strip" clubs like Classic. How does it compare to manila? It seems like these clubs in Jakarta make Jakarta a lesser known top mongering destination.

There is a Luminor hotel next to Loksari, Has anyone stayed in that hotel and taken girls from Loksari into the hotel. I know the Luminor next to Emporium doesn't care but just checking.

[QUOTE=Bbdbbd;3035214]I went to Lokasari square pretty late at night, almost half past midnight. The place was far from dead, but wasn't bustling either. A mamasan approached me with a girl in tow. The girl looked like early twenties, no kid, young, tight body, and the perfect clothes to show off the body. She wore a top that accentuated her breasts, and very short shorts, and a spunky attitude. She can't have been taller than 5'3. These made her look younger than she was. Mamasan asked for 500 k, pointed to a hotel closeby and said another 100 k. But I managed to negotiate down, and wore her down to 300 k including room. I think she agreed because of how late it was. But we didn't end up going to the hotel she pointed at. Instead, we walked close by and went to a certain hotel Arcadia, a lodge at best. When we reached the hotel the girl confidently and quickly went into a room, and evacuated it for us. A man and a baby came out of the room and went somewhere. The room itself was tiny, barely able to contain the bed that was inside. The girl stripped to reveal a slim and tight body, and a small curvefull of boobs. She had a nice ass that was a delight to grab and slap, which I did. Her pussy was trimmed, and aesthetically looked very pleasing; it didn't look destroyed, like I expected it. Overall, a good deal for three red notes. She washed up in the bathroom that was too tiny to allow the door to open fully, and came out. I got out of my clothes, and explored her body for a couple of minutes. Her skin was soft, and her body was tight, with next to no body fat. But I couldn't see her ribcage either; it wasn't a malnourished look. She tried to sell me a condom, but I told her I didn't want it, and that I'd fuck her bareback. The condom suddenly became free. My hands roamed around her body, exploring every inch of the teenage volleyball player-like body. Her boobs were taut, and I sucked on them for a few minutes. I knew the arrangement didn't really lend itself to any sort of romance or reciprocity, but I still managed to suck her tits and explore her body a little bit. She encouraged me to get on with it. I placed my rock hard (now covered) cock in her face. She started giving a BBBJ, and did a half decent job of it...[/QUOTE]

Hi Vendelo. I have 24 outcall massage place. I posted a few weeks ago. Look it up. Sorry, don't remember name. They do legit and shady massage.

Came to my door in 30 minutes. Girl was probably a 5/10. Not a hot lass, but does decent massage and nice BJ for under 1 m at your hotel. Nice service.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;3035069]I literally just got home from Jakarta. I stayed at Luminor Pecenongan. A Tinder girl I saw told me there are many massage shops near Luminor. So I searched in google maps and sure as shit there are. But they're not physical shops. They're 24-hour outcall to your hotel. I wanted to try but got tired of getting catfished (see a previous post of mine).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3035247]Jakarta seems like a hidden gem where there is large "strip" clubs like Classic. How does it compare to manila? It seems like these clubs in Jakarta make Jakarta a lesser known top mongering destination.[/QUOTE]Disclaimer: I have only been to Jakarta 3 X but MNL dozens of times. In Jakarta, for me, the action was concentrated at Hotel Classic mostly which I loved. I did Hotel Travel once. Classic was better for me. Even had a girl from Classic busty beauty stay with me all night at Holiday Inn which was a nice hotel. Back in 2015 I spent the weekend with a busty DIA find in Jakarta who brought an even bustier (and slim) Muslim GF with her the second night for a great three-some. The Indos tend to have bigger boobs than Filipinas. In MNL, there are two main spots: Makati and Malate. In Makati / Burgos Street you will pay more and generally have a higher quality girl. In Malate / Midnight Haven / L A Cafe is a little cheaper but hit and miss. Mostly miss. Of course there are streetwalkers, too. I think if you are going to go to Manila, you may as well hit Angeles and / or Subic. Cheaper prices. Great variety in Angeles but I prefer the atmosphere in Subic. I'm sure others will add their experience to my brief comparative review.

How many days to spend here ideally?

3, 4 or 5 nights?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3035247]Jakarta seems like a hidden gem where there is large "strip" clubs like Classic. How does it compare to manila? It seems like these clubs in Jakarta make Jakarta a lesser known top mongering destination.[/QUOTE]I've hobbied in Jakarta and Manila. The latter cannot compete with the former because.

Cost.

The beauty of an Indo Pinay.

Quantity.

Quality of girls (subjective).

Accent (subjective; I loathe Tagalog).

Food.

Options (Classic, Emporium, etc.)

[QUOTE=Bbdbbd;3035214]… Instead, we walked close by and went to a certain hotel Arcadia, a lodge at best. When we reached the hotel the girl confidently and quickly went into a room, and evacuated it for us. A man and a baby came out of the room and went somewhere. The room itself was tiny, barely able to contain the bed that was inside. The girl stripped to reveal a slim and tight body, and a small curvefull of boobs. She had a nice ass that was a delight to grab and slap, which I did. Her pussy was trimmed, and aesthetically looked very pleasing; it didn't look destroyed, like I expected it. Overall, a good deal for three red notes. She washed up in the bathroom that was too tiny to allow the door to open fully, and came out..[/QUOTE]1. Was she related to the man and baby?

2.300 is US $19. How much less does it need to be for you?

[QUOTE=Jimmyzhu;3035189]Very nice! I was actually thinking about booking a room there since its close by to emporium, which room did you book (standard / double / suite) and was it OK to your liking?[/QUOTE]I booked the deluxe suite. It was on the 11th floor and had a nice northerly and unobstructed view of Jakarta. The room was very clean and modern. My only complaint was the fridge was not cold and laundry service took longer than expected. There is a beauty that serves coffee near the entrance. Wow!

Cost me US $47 including breakfast buffet that is quite good. On a previous trip I booked the suite that was very nice.

P.S. There's a 24-hour dim sum restaurant two blocks away. The Indomaret across the street has two atms. ATM on the left dispenses 1.250.000 max but you can keep your card inserted and keep withdrawing 1.250.000. Also, if you haven't yet tried Bakso, recommend, which is minutes away:

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[QUOTE=Chilli1;3029069]I saw in tgram group people posting time decreased from 90 minutes to 60 minutes for 2 girls and 40 minutes for one girl.

If one more person confirms then they changing rules.

Maybe next time prices will go up soon?[/QUOTE]I was at Classic several times last week. Each time the phone rings at 45 minutes. I set the timer on my phone at 42 so that I would be notified first before that loud and annoying phone call.