Guadalajara

[QUOTE=GoneFishin;2564951]Connie has a twitter page at ConnieGarciaMx and alex I will pm you as phone numbers are not allowed.

GF.[/QUOTE]Thanks GF. Discovered already had Connie's number from another source.

After sampling the estetica, I wanted to try some of the service providers on elforo. I started off by reaching out to Alex. Lots of people have recommended him on this group. However, my experience with him was far from satisfactory. He proposed a rate which was different from the rate on elforo. When I asked him if he could provide the elforo rate, he just didn't respond to my WA message. I then tried the next provider on elforo (Calientas). We agreed on this girl ([URL]https://www.calientesgdl.com.mx/product-page/lila[/URL]). She did arrive on time. But, that was the best part of this interaction. She started off by asking me for Uber money (I presumed this would be deducted from her service fees and I paid the Uber). Upstairs in the room, as I started talking to her. I realized that she was very new to the game. She seemed extremely nervous and was hesitant about performing any act that I recommended. Kissing / Oral / DATY were all taken off the menu by her. I tried to salvage the situation by asking her to provide me a massage. But, the massage was none too great. I just finally proceeded to fuck her in reverse cowboy and asked her to leave. That's when the money problems started. She claimed that the provider takes most of the money. Leaving her with nothing and asked me for the full service fees + uber for her return journey. I finally paid her full service money. Didn't ask back for the Uber fare that I already paid and asked her to leave.

This experience left me a bit disappointed and I thought that an estetica may make up for this experience. Went to Elagance this time. It was the same routine. A lineup of girls was presented to me, from where I selected somebody that I liked. She was really well endowed and looked eager to please. Suffice it to say. I had a pretty good experience with her. She was willing to provide BBBJ, DFK and was also ready to provide anal (for an extra 300 pesos). We fucked in multiple positions before I finally came in her mouth (with condoms).

More to follow.

[QUOTE=BatmanJoker;2565217]After sampling the estetica, I wanted to try some of the service providers on elforo. I started off by reaching out to Alex. Lots of people have recommended him on this group. However, my experience with him was far from satisfactory. He proposed a rate which was different from the rate on elforo. When I asked him if he could provide the elforo rate, he just didn't respond to my WA message. I then tried the next provider on elforo (Calientas). We agreed on this girl ([URL]https://www.calientesgdl.com.mx/product-page/lila[/URL]). She did arrive on time. But, that was the best part of this interaction. She started off by asking me for Uber money (I presumed this would be deducted from her service fees and I paid the Uber). Upstairs in the room, as I started talking to her. I realized that she was very new to the game. She seemed extremely nervous and was hesitant about performing any act that I recommended. Kissing / Oral / DATY were all taken off the menu by her. I tried to salvage the situation by asking her to provide me a massage. But, the massage was none too great. I just finally proceeded to fuck her in reverse cowboy and asked her to leave. That's when the money problems started. She claimed that the provider takes most of the money. Leaving her with nothing and asked me for the full service fees + uber for her return journey. I finally paid her full service money. Didn't ask back for the Uber fare that I already paid and asked her to leave.

This experience left me a bit disappointed and I thought that an estetica may make up for this experience. Went to Elagance this time. It was the same routine. A lineup of girls was presented to me, from where I selected somebody that I liked. She was really well endowed and looked eager to please. Suffice it to say. I had a pretty good experience with her. She was willing to provide BBBJ, DFK and was also ready to provide anal (for an extra 300 pesos). We fucked in multiple positions before I finally came in her mouth (with condoms).

More to follow.[/QUOTE]I recall Alex's rates are 1300 1 HR, 1500 1.5 HR, and 1800 2 HR. +200 BBBJ. Some time the rate for a 'VIP' girl was 2000 for 2 HR.

Some of these agencies do not respond. Must be one guy on his phone all day. Haha.

I heard the split between WG and agencies are 50/50.

I have read many of you have trouble with Alex in the setting up appointments. I don't know why, I never had issues. From the forum and his own posts I already now the breakdown in prices. When I msg him I always give him the details.

Xgirl.

Time of date.

Time length.

Extras.

Location of date, be as specific as possible if airbnb.

Price, which I take from his own posts.

He may add some pesos if location is away form the girl's general area, which he also states in his posts. I must advise that he is not one for chit chat. Thats just the reality IMHO. But his stable of chicas is always on point. If the girl is not available he will suggest others for your selected time and location.

I saw that girl you chose on Calientes and clearly states she is novata (novice). More risk if your only in town for short visit. I only try those if I am around awhile. Calientes has good customer service so ask about experience and what to do if girl does not perform as expected.

Hope this helps.

GF.

Thanks for the tip. I am going to try Alex again using your suggestion. I still have a couple of days left in GDL. Where do you get the images of his girls? I am not able to login to elforo (the forum refuses to activate my ID) and he doesn't seem to have a twitter account or website.

[QUOTE=GoneFishin;2565297]I have read many of you have trouble with Alex in the setting up appointments. I don't know why, I never had issues. From the forum and his own posts I already now the breakdown in prices. When I msg him I always give him the details.

Xgirl.

Time of date.

Time length.

Extras.

Location of date, be as specific as possible if airbnb.

Price, which I take from his own posts.

He may add some pesos if location is away form the girl's general area, which he also states in his posts. I must advise that he is not one for chit chat. Thats just the reality IMHO. But his stable of chicas is always on point. If the girl is not available he will suggest others for your selected time and location..[/QUOTE]

What the girl told me was that out of the 1300 I was paying for 1 HR, she was going to pocket only 500 and she also needed to absorb her Uber fee in that 500. If that is true. Its a bit rough on the girl. I don't know what to believe here.

[QUOTE=SaltyNut;2565276]I recall Alex's rates are 1300 1 HR, 1500 1.5 HR, and 1800 2 HR. +200 BBBJ. Some time the rate for a 'VIP' girl was 2000 for 2 HR.

Some of these agencies do not respond. Must be one guy on his phone all day. Haha.

I heard the split between WG and agencies are 50/50.[/QUOTE]

Outside El foro the only way is to ask him to put you into agency's Whatsapp group chat. There he usually places the girls for the day and pics. Other than that you can ask him who is available that day and pics on his normal whatsapp number. But good luck with that one.

I wondered has anyone tried to register with El Foro behind a VPN and did it work?

I have been with them since the beginning and never had a issue.

GF.

I've been looking at a few sites and see the term "oral con." Does that mean oral with condom?

[QUOTE=GoneFishin;2565438]Outside El foro the only way is to ask him to put you into agency's Whatsapp group chat. There he usually places the girls for the day and pics. Other than that you can ask him who is available that day and pics on his normal whatsapp number. But good luck with that one.

I wondered has anyone tried to register with El Foro behind a VPN and did it work?

I have been with them since the beginning and never had a issue.

GF.[/QUOTE]Great Idea. Already made contact with Alex. Responds quickly. Thanks again.

Anyone have more estetica or massage recommendations?

Please advise.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=PineTree;2565458]I've been looking at a few sites and see the term "oral con." Does that mean oral with condom?[/QUOTE]Yes, con / with condom. BBBJ is oral sin / without condom / gorra / etc or "oral natural". It was once expected as part of regular service but in recent years oral sin with most girls has become an extra charge. Have fun and please don't neglect to post your reviews.

[QUOTE=GoneFishin;2565438]Outside El foro the only way is to ask him to put you into agency's Whatsapp group chat. There he usually places the girls for the day and pics. Other than that you can ask him who is available that day and pics on his normal whatsapp number. But good luck with that one.

I wondered has anyone tried to register with El Foro behind a VPN and did it work?

I have been with them since the beginning and never had a issue.

GF.[/QUOTE]VPN did not work, although mine didn't have a node from Mexico.

Different email domain also did not work.

I think it is something with the website. Total user = 27460 and latest user.

Hotel Love it Consuelo. I can confirm a Saturday night here is a very noisy experience. I was on 5th floor. Would never stay at this place again. Music going all night from club across the street. After this I stayed at Krystal Urban Hotel.

Estetica Masculina Jimmy's: I think her name was Melissa or may Lisa. 34 or so. Cute looking but had see-Section scarring. 940 for hour plus 200 for sin condom. Service was okay. I don't find many of these women will do DFK despite being asked if they like to kiss. They will say yes and then you will get small kisses on mouth. Te gusta besar boca? I know Covid plays a part on this.

Briana & friends. 383 Medrano. There are many of these private locations advertised in Spanish. They all seem to open around 10 am or so and close early 7 or 8 pm at latest. They are located in low rent sketchy areas mainly and cater to the average Mexican guy who can't afford an Estetica Masculina. Mx. [URL]mundosexanuncio.com[/URL] for Guadalajara. I visited this one. Prices as a low as 200 pesos. I didn't find the chicas at this one particularly attractive so I passed. If you are looking for lots of women at rock bottom prices these seem to offer the lowest prices in Guadalajara.

Hobbie Inn Esttica Masculina Erotic Massage Parlor. Visited this place in the middle of the day because I had heard so much about it. They are open until 3 am which might be a factor. Anyway I was led to a room where I received a lineup one by one where each girl came in and shook my hand. "mucho gusto". Two of the girls, the first two I can't remember their names were pretty hot. Probably early 20's. This place is pricey. I think its 1500 pesos per hour. For a Masculina, I expected the chicas to be 8,9's and 10's but I didn't see it. Maybe they have different girls later at night. I passed.

Estetica Masculina Danny: 800 Pesos for uno hora. I selected Barbara who is 28 and has a smoking hot fit body. Super nice girl and very attractive. Service was great. But all covered for the BJ. I did not inquire regarding BBBJ for a tip. She told me she works out regularly and it shows. I ended up finishing in her mouth with a condom on.

This one is interesting. Mundosexoannuncio. Paulette kiss me on the mouth.

You like what you see my photos are real and my natural breasts I am a very hot and dare girl I love you I offer you quality and brightness and excellent service. The photos show a smoking hot blond. Too good to be true. 1200 una hora bb. Okay, told her to come over but met her outside of Krystal Hotel because I was suspicious. Turns out she was nothing like the hot photos. I immediately sent her on her way after telling her she was lying about her photos. She asked for taxifare and I told her no. Stop lying. The only way to teach these bait and switch photo liars is to make them pay for their own return taxi or uber fare and lost time. She showed up 1/2 hour late and I had popped two little blue pills. A complete waste of my time.

Rio Colorado & Bohemio De Calzada: Based on previous trip report. I hit these places in late afternoon I think it was Friday. They are very close together as I recall. These are places for the locals. The first one was dead the 2nd one was pretty lively and full of girls. There was one young girl I spoke to as I was leaving who had been sitting with a guy who was pretty but very young. I would probably have to check her ID to take her to a room. I did not partake. I was simply curious.

Scandalous. Hit this place on a Saturday night. They open at 8 pm. I sat and had one beer. I did buy a girl a drink at this place and practiced my mediocre Spanish as she spoke no English, but really was here to see the strippers dance. There didn't seem to be much dancing going on. I asked the woman I was buying a drink for Naomi when she was going to dance and she said later. She never once got one stage. I departed. Two guys were getting pretty good lap dances out in t the open. Not sure how much it cost them. I actually prefer to grope girls in private.

Casa de las muecas (House of dolls) Calle Gregorio Davila 478 Santa Teresita. This is another one of those private places. It was late when I got there probably close to 8 and all the dolls seemed to have left. The few woman I saw did not appeal to me. Might be worth checking out if you only want to spend 200- 300 pesos to get laid. The area is not very good and there were a couple of guys sitting on a couch inside which made me a bit uneasy. I made up a story about having to check with my friend out in the car and then split.

La Victoria: I can't figure this place out. I went there on a Friday night its right across the street from a well known restaurant. Anyway, it appears to be a dance club. I sat down and immediately the messero brought over a girl for me to buy fischas for. I talked to her in my broken Spanish and bought her a couple of girls beers. I don't remember her name. I think it was $4-5 per drink. Not a lot. I really wasn't interested in dancing. That seems to be the main attraction here getting dances from the girls in exchange for buying them drinks. The mesero told me the girls were not hookers but simply danced. The funny thing about this place was as soon as I told the waiter that I wasn't buying anymore drinks for the girl they whisked her off to another table. HAHAHAHA. There are hot girls in this place but I'm not convinced you can get anything more than a dance from them. I never saw one guy leave the place with a girl in the two hours I was there.

Covid Test: As reported previously Santa Sofia Clinica Integral does Covid tests for 270 pesos. They were very helpful and can help you with the forms. Ave. Ignacio L. Vallarata 1458,Col Americana, Lafayette. They send the results to your email in PDF format which you present to the airline you are flying on.

I always stay in the Americas barrio near the Arch of Vallarta. These are some I have had success with before I moved to escorts. My experience has always been hit or miss. Everyday different. No recent info but if your in the same area of town worth a look. In no particulate order.

Danny - Av La Paz #1561

Vedette. Morelos 779.

Luigui. Calle Manuel Lpez Cotilla 1882.

Jet Set. Av. Mxico 2071.

Abismo Spa. Av. Vallarta 2420.

Select. La Paz 2546.

Barba Azul. Vallarta 1921.

GF

PS. there are a few more in this area but I have never tried them. One of my favs not in the area but not to far either is Hobbie Inn, the only one I know of that gives service late at night and has a bar for added relaxation. Av. Lapizlázuli 3037, Victoria, 45089 Zapopan, Jal., Mexico


[QUOTE=Shamester;2565521]Anyone have more estetica or massage recommendations?

Please advise.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the outstanding information.

Shall be in GDL, June 15 - 28. Please lmk if you want to meet up for drinks and mongering activities.