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What is the best approach you guys have for picking a Non-Pro. I have been mostly taking the easy path and paying for sex. I thought maybe someday I would like to try something different and more challenging, and also it might work little as an ego booster for a middle age guy to pick a Non-Pro and have her fall in love.

I tried it once in Bogota. I went out on a date with this knock out gorgeous lady must been about 30 years old who was a Medical Doctor. All went well, I managed to have her laugh and she took a liking of me at least from my perspective, but when things get serious and asked her if she can be my girlfriend, she started to argue that my Spanish were not up to par with her's, and that I don't know how to dance, and what do I have that her colombian guy lacks! You get my drift. So since then, I just gave up and took the easy way out by paying for my catch.

Welcome to Colombia bro. I've been saying this all along. Colombian women are awesome but they are NOT easy catches. Not the ones that are worth it anyways.

I don't know why you are asking for advice on here when she gave you the perfect advice already (although if you scroll down a page or so you will find I already said the exact same thing). Make sure your Spanish is excellent, learn to dance, learn the local culture. Colombian women are very much into the idea of falling in love with you IF you bring shit to the table, and that means shit over and above what you have in your wallet. Good luck!

[QUOTE=Viajero]What is the best approach you guys have for picking a Non-Pro. I have been mostly taking the easy path and paying for sex. I thought maybe someday I would like to try something different and more challenging, and also it might work little as an ego booster for a middle age guy to pick a Non-Pro and have her fall in love.

I tried it once in Bogota. I went out on a date with this knock out gorgeous lady must been about 30 years old who was a Medical Doctor. All went well, I managed to have her laugh and she took a liking of me at least from my perspective, but when things get serious and asked her if she can be my girlfriend, she started to argue that my Spanish were not up to par with her's, and that I don't know how to dance, and what do I have that her colombian guy lacks! You get my drift. So since then, I just gave up and took the easy way out by paying for my catch.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Viajero]What is the best approach you guys have for picking a Non-Pro. I have been mostly taking the easy path and paying for sex. I thought maybe someday I would like to try something different and more challenging, and also it might work little as an ego booster for a middle age guy to pick a Non-Pro and have her fall in love.

I tried it once in Bogota. I went out on a date with this knock out gorgeous lady must been about 30 years old who was a Medical Doctor. All went well, I managed to have her laugh and she took a liking of me at least from my perspective, but when things get serious and asked her if she can be my girlfriend, she started to argue that my Spanish were not up to par with her's, and that I don't know how to dance, and what do I have that her colombian guy lacks! You get my drift. So since then, I just gave up and took the easy way out by paying for my catch.[/QUOTE]She was probably testing you. Or she just did not wanna be your GF anyways, not because of Spanish or dancing. If you were there only for a week, then it would explain a lot. It is better to tell her you were gonna move to Colombia.

What she said was complete BS. I do not think they care too much about dancing, but they probably more care about your Spanish. You could have told her that she was gonna teach you Spanish and dancing.

One year ago I had a GF(a professional girl) in Colombia for a while, went to probably 5-6 dates dates first before any sex, had good time going to restaurants and places, while she was on her period gave real great BJ, she did not give crap about my dancing, never danced with her. Also she was helping with Spanish, explaining different shit.

But then got tired of thinking of her, spending too much time, etc.. I had to sneak out to go to casas, then lying to her that I was doing some repairs in my apartment. So I chose not to have any girlfriends there anymore, too much BS, their jelausy, etc.. although it's good way to learn Spanish and some romantic words which you can later use with other girls.

Also before her I dumped another girl(had only 2 dates with her), she got very upset and asked a thousand questions in emails why I did it. I do not like to do this kinda stuff.

So eventually I switched back to "easy" girls. For me its much more fun than "non-pros". I can tell them anything I want, I can ask anything, I can change them anytime. They do not get offended. Still the amount of money spend is pretty much comparable. Instead of going to dinners, events, travel, gifts, the money goes directly to the "pros". So I guess it depends on what you like. You can chose what you want to do. For non-pros you definitely need much more time and nerves.

[QUOTE=Viajero]What is the best approach you guys have for picking a Non-Pro. I have been mostly taking the easy path and paying for sex. I thought maybe someday I would like to try something different and more challenging, and also it might work little as an ego booster for a middle age guy to pick a Non-Pro and have her fall in love.

I tried it once in Bogota. I went out on a date with this knock out gorgeous lady must been about 30 years old who was a Medical Doctor. All went well, I managed to have her laugh and she took a liking of me at least from my perspective, but when things get serious and asked her if she can be my girlfriend, she started to argue that my Spanish were not up to par with her's, and that I don't know how to dance, and what do I have that her colombian guy lacks! You get my drift. So since then, I just gave up and took the easy way out by paying for my catch.[/QUOTE]The on line dating sites are your best bet. Also you must learn how to dance. Not only very important to the Chicas but would be fun for you also.

On second thought just do like me and stick with the Pro's. If your ego needs boosting then pretend that they really like you.

All women want something from you as you want something from them. It is just way more honest to deal with a good Pro. In Colombia there are plenty of good honest pro's. You just have to hunt for them.

Good luck.

I have an apartment in Bogota, I get girlfriends and GFE pro's all the time. I have not been to medallin yet.

I speak spanish and travel live in Bogota 2 weeks out of the month. (god bless stock options)

Question: Is it really worth my time going to Medallin for non-pro's...? If I strike out one night, are there (pre-pago's) or non mechanical woman that work for school money etc?

I am good looking, bodybuilder physic...and have money to spend so I am not cheap.

Bogota is my backyard, so just curious if I would have as much fun in Medallin knowing I dont like to pay, rather find local first then pay if I strike out.

Thanks guys!

[QUOTE=Hioctane]What is your definition of "long time"? A night? A day + night? A couple of days, weeks, months? Do you speak spanish? Obviously it helps more if you do. The range of prices vary so much depending on how you treat them.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I intend the night and yes I understand spanish.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]PS. You never mentioned anything about visiting Casa Blanca (previously La Mansion). Too bad because you could have easily hooked up with young model looking types. Like Angie.[/QUOTE]What's she a model for Marlboro?

Sorry, dude, couldn't help it. I take it from your name we share interest in the same country. I have been around in Colombia, and although honestly not impressed with the girls there, this one looks like she needs a good 20 hour nap.

OK, I'll take her.

So many guys lately posting how they are not that impressed with the girls in Colombia. Just yesterday I took a rare stroll in Pobaldo (I am mostly a Centro or Mayorista hunter). Anyway while walking from the Parke to the Metro I saw two Stunners and at least 5 or 6 others who were very pretty.

In the 11 days I have been here I have been drooling over all the women here who I need to have. You guys need to tell me where you see girls better than the ones I am looking at right now. If you will do that for me then my next trip will be at that location.

In attempt to contribute to this, and somewhat following up on the mesocorny guys attack on Colombia, here are my two centavos.

Well, background, first, since first post in Colombia forum: Cuba regular. Not because it's best for mongering, but because it's like my second home. Been to Colombia twice, both times for 1½ month. Been in all parts of Colombia, so know the country well, but would not call myself near the expert on Colombia as I probably am on Cuba. 35 but all the girls over there think I am 25-28. Nice looking, no bodybuilder, just a straight up decent looking guy with semi-blond hair and nice blue eyes (I am not that nice, luckily my eyes say so :-)

Anyway,

Taking a stroll in Poblado, especially a stroll around Lleras on a Friday or Saturday night, there is no place on earth where one will see more good looking girls.

Like the corny guy, my taste is the young, slim, beauties. Plenty of those. Hundreds. And even for a guy like myself into 18-19 year olds, the quality there is so massive, that I even see plenty of 25 and 30 year olds, even some 40-50 year old MILF's, I'd do anytime.

But are they (generally speaking) doable? No.

Colombian woman er not desperate for 'white' men as they are in many other countries in that hemisphere. Or at least, it's not in their culture to act so. Sure, they're doable if you live in Medellin and you're willing to take them out, get to know them, charm them, use money on them. But are any of these girls going to go home with you on that first night even if you're young, speak spanish and can do some charming? No way. They're approachable, yes. Colombianas are not arrogant. But it's not going any further than that. Talk is fine, fuck is bad.

So then there are strip joints and casas, and I must agree that for a guy who likes slim women, Colombia is not the place. Again, unless you live there, and have all the time (and money) in the world to date, date and date. Because the far part of Colombian prepagos, I agree, are, how shall we put it, 'con carne'. Not only with the tits but also with the ass. I can't believe when I meet a girl there with a nice, small, round ass, and she seriously plans to get implants. In the god damn ass! I hate the plastic-work going on in Colombia. It's gone waaay overboard. It's like every girl, when she turns 18 and sets goals for her life, says to herself: I want a boyfriend, a nice house, a car, new tits and ass.

Where in Centro do you hunt? When I go in there, I hit 3-4 stripjoints and never saw anyone hot. And from the cab I see the streetwalkers. Talking about ugly hookers. Mayrista, I must admit, no expert there. Been there, but not looked for girls. But when you mention it in the same sentence as Centro I take it it's similar. If that is your type of girls, and the types of girls that makes you guys love Colombia, then count me out.

I love Colombia. But it's far from my favourite place to go for women. To me it's like this: The hot ones are only available to date and for steady relationships and the pros are 95% fat-assed or just not attractive. I admit there are gems, but jesus christ does someone with my taste have to spend many nights and go through many clubs and casas to find a gem.

So for straight up mongering, i would take Brazil any day of the week. Argentina as well. Costa Rica. I could go on. Cuba is a different subject. I can score there as I can't believe myself, and get a new hot 18 year old flaquita every day. But that's from being there about 3 years in total, speaking spanish and knowing how things work there. I see thousands of lost gringos there wandering around with no luck. The other thing is that I like myself a colored girl, and to be honest there are few hot white girls available in Cuba. Then there's the hassle in Cuba and the people that hang around you like flies 24/7 hoping you'll drop a dollar. None of that in Colombia (Exceptfor on the coast). I love that about Colombia: That a foreigner is just another person walking and that they have self-respect enough to leave people the fuck alone.

So in conclusion. If the Colombian-style voloptuos latina with tits and big round ass is your thing, I wouldn't know where to advice you to go. And if P4P is your only interest on top, then I can imagine that Colombia is paradise for you. Because god damned there are lots of hookers en Colombia! Have any of you ever known a normal colombiana who did not have at least 2-3 friends who were prepagos? I have not.

Me, I like myself a young flaquita who is promiscuous enough to fuck the first day she meets a guy (because I'm an asshole that just wants pussy and new girls all the time). And so Colombia is not for me in that aspect.

My dos centavos.

[QUOTE=Vics Picks]So many guys lately posting how they are not inpressed with the girls in Colombia. Just yesterday I took a rare stroll in Pobaldo (I am mostly a Centro or Mayorista hunter). Anyway while walking from the Parke to the Metro I saw two Stunners and at least 5 or 6 others who were very pretty.

In the 11 days I have been here I have been drooling over all the women here who I need to have. You guys need to tell me where you see girls better than the ones I am looking at right now. If you will do that for me than my next trip will be at that location.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=El Rey De Pollo]In attempt to contribute to this, and somewhat following up on the mesocorny guys attack on Colombia, here are my two centavos.[/QUOTE]El Rey De Pollo,

You could at least have the decency to advise the readers that up to a few days ago your handle on this board was Mesocorny. So your follow up on the "Mesocorny guys attack on Colombia" is actually your "continuing attack" but just under a different name.

Please be respectful that not everyone can agree on all things especially when it comes to Mongering. Example is you and I love Cuba yet there are a ton of guys that will say Cuba is shit and the girls are fat and ugly. You and I know different.

So while so many guys (myself included) write about how much they enjoy Colombia, why do you think you were attacked out here for saying that all the girls you see in Colombia are fat and ugly?

Everyone has a different taste in women. You have made it clear (over & over again) you like them thin and gorgeous (and free). Yet you won't take (or don't have) the time to get with the ones you want. This is a fact yourself have admitted has been your biggest problem. Thankfully I like them all. All I ask is that they have all their teeth.

You have written how you love Colombia in a few posts but you have made it clear (several times) that you don't like Colombia for Mongering. So "Happy Mongering" elsewhere.

I am wondering how many more times will you post and tell us how much you are disappointed with mongering in Colombia (and under what name)?

Cheers,

Cubanut

I agree in many ways, I date NPs all the time here. And sometimes you don't even kiss on the first date. It's just the way things are here.

I have even had girls on many many occasions tell me that they want the first date to be simple, grab a cup of coffee and talk, nothing more. They don't want any expensive dates until they get to know me better.

1) nobody no matter how promiscuous, wants to be fucked once and then ignored. it just feels like shit. colombian girls are generally smart enough not to fall for this.

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[QUOTE=El Rey De Pollo]In attempt to contribute to this, and somewhat following up on the mesocorny guys attack on Colombia, here are my two centavos.

Well, background, first, since first post in Colombia forum: Cuba regular. Not because it's best for mongering, but because it's like my second home. Been to Colombia twice, both times for 1½ month. Been in all parts of Colombia, so know the country well, but would not call myself near the expert on Colombia as I probably am on Cuba. 35 but all the girls over there think I am 25-28. Nice looking, no bodybuilder, just a straight up decent looking guy with semi-blond hair and nice blue eyes (I am not that nice, luckily my eyes say so :-)

Anyway,

Taking a stroll in Poblado, especially a stroll around Lleras on a Friday or Saturday night, there is no place on earth where one will see more good looking girls.

Like the corny guy, my taste is the young, slim, beauties. Plenty of those. Hundreds. And even for a guy like myself into 18-19 year olds, the quality there is so massive, that I even see plenty of 25 and 30 year olds, even some 40-50 year old MILF's, I'd do anytime.

But are they (generally speaking) doable? No.

Colombian woman er not desperate for 'white' men as they are in many other countries in that hemisphere. Or at least, it's not in their culture to act so. Sure, they're doable if you live in Medellin and you're willing to take them out, get to know them, charm them, use money on them. But are any of these girls going to go home with you on that first night even if you're young, speak spanish and can do some charming? No way. They're approachable, yes. Colombianas are not arrogant. But it's not going any further than that. Talk is fine, fuck is bad.

So then there are strip joints and casas, and I must agree that for a guy who likes slim women, Colombia is not the place. Again, unless you live there, and have all the time (and money) in the world to date, date and date. Because the far part of Colombian prepagos, I agree, are, how shall we put it, 'con carne'. Not only with the tits but also with the ass. I can't believe when I meet a girl there with a nice, small, round ass, and she seriously plans to get implants. In the god damn ass! I hate the plastic-work going on in Colombia. It's gone waaay overboard. It's like every girl, when she turns 18 and sets goals for her life, says to herself: I want a boyfriend, a nice house, a car, new tits and ass.

Where in Centro do you hunt? When I go in there, I hit 3-4 stripjoints and never saw anyone hot. And from the cab I see the streetwalkers. Talking about ugly hookers. Mayrista, I must admit, no expert there. Been there, but not looked for girls. But when you mention it in the same sentence as Centro I take it it's similar. If that is your type of girls, and the types of girls that makes you guys love Colombia, then count me out.

I love Colombia. But it's far from my favourite place to go for women. To me it's like this: The hot ones are only available to date and for steady relationships and the pros are 95% fat-assed or just not attractive. I admit there are gems, but jesus christ does someone with my taste have to spend many nights and go through many clubs and casas to find a gem.

So for straight up mongering, i would take Brazil any day of the week. Argentina as well. Costa Rica. I could go on. Cuba is a different subject. I can score there as I can't believe myself, and get a new hot 18 year old flaquita every day. But that's from being there about 3 years in total, speaking spanish and knowing how things work there. I see thousands of lost gringos there wandering around with no luck. The other thing is that I like myself a colored girl, and to be honest there are few hot white girls available in Cuba. Then there's the hassle in Cuba and the people that hang around you like flies 24/7 hoping you'll drop a dollar. None of that in Colombia (Exceptfor on the coast). I love that about Colombia: That a foreigner is just another person walking and that they have self-respect enough to leave people the fuck alone.

So in conclusion. If the Colombian-style voloptuos latina with tits and big round ass is your thing, I wouldn't know where to advice you to go. And if P4P is your only interest on top, then I can imagine that Colombia is paradise for you. Because god damned there are lots of hookers en Colombia! Have any of you ever known a normal colombiana who did not have at least 2-3 friends who were prepagos? I have not.

Me, I like myself a young flaquita who is promiscuous enough to fuck the first day she meets a guy (because I'm an asshole that just wants pussy and new girls all the time). And so Colombia is not for me in that aspect.

My dos centavos.[/QUOTE]Hl Rey,

Thanks for your dos centavos! Your preferences give a clearly picture of why Colombia is not the best place for you. Like I've said many times. Everyone has their own tastes. I would agree. If you like slim and natural, Colombia might not be for you. I (and many others) like to call it the "boob capital" of the world. Colombianas are into plastic surgery. Boobs and ass. Again, if natural is your thing. Might want to look elsewhere. As for light and dark. If you like light, go to MDE. If you like dark, go to the coast. As for Mayorista and El Centro. They are no where close. In El Centro, I'm talking about the casas. It's where the new young, up and comers start out. You're likely find more naturals there (before they can afford their implants). As for girls that will sleep with you on the first date. Doesn't that make them a pro in a non-pro disguise? It's like saying you picked up a non-pro and fucked her on the first date in Sosua DR. Hello. There are no non-pros in Sosua DR (generalizing here). LOL

Different strokes for different folks!

no actually mr. pollo's report is very well done. but as for me i don't get the guys who can't find what they want in medellin. when i go back, i could, and may very well, arrange to be with v the first night, see the 2nd, w the 3rd, then l, m and a, and then start with new girls. or i could start with new girls. but in any event, i agree with what a number of guys have whispered lately, your experience is yours, only, that is, mine is my own world. anyway, i'm working on my salsa, which most of my friends think is kind of strange, but i will surprise them! also, on my next trip i'm going to try out as many love motels as i can manage, and report back to you. i like the idea of a lazy jacuzzi with the beautiful girls i know, before consummating our friendship (again). but again, it is what it is, for you, and for no one else.

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