Phnom Penh

[quote=asianpussylover]i am now back in the us. i just want to let you all know that sophie's is definetly closed. and by all means avoid svay pak like the plague. i couldn't get any drivers to take me there as i was informed that it is now a police trap. supposedly the locals are getting paid by the ngos to report foreingers in the area.

the days of thousands of girls in tuol kok are over. you can still find some milling around, but nothing like years ago from what i was told.

also, becareful as to what you do on the beach in snooky. a frenchman told me that ngos are snooping around taking photos of foreigners, (perhaps even innocently), talking to the young ones.

the ngos have definetly fucked this place up. nevertheless, there is still fun to be had and i ask you all to keep your mouths shut.[/quote]if you are asking us to keep our mouths shut about ****philia your mind is seriously fucked.

sophies is closed and so is svay pak. [blue][deleted by admin][/blue]

[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]this report was edited to [u]remove references to **** persons[/u].

i am aware that the vast majority of references to **** girls are legitimate attempts to warn other fellow members about how easy it is to accidentally pickup an **** girls, the potential dangers of being caught with **** girls, etc. however, past discussions in the forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterpreted, and without starting flame wars.

please do not post references to **** persons in the forum. [i]thanks![/i][/blue][/size]

I went to Paris Hotel's fishbowl and chose a nice khumer girl.

2hr massage was USD$12 in the room according to the mamasan/attendant, however my massuest said it was $11. Room was just a basic room with toilet, basin and a shower on a hose with Hot water. Wooden Ceiling, tv, closet, mirror. Old and dusty on the top of the closet and bottom of the wooden bedside table.

Anyway had a shower, lay down wrapped in a towel face up, She started rubbing the feet and working her way up, Ok massage but its not what I was here for.

Got to the fun part, she had tiny A cups and a nice shapely ass. I got a BBJ and shot over her tits, then after a little bit of a hug and cuddle (GFE) and went for round #2. Very relaxing place, I'll be back to visit it next time round.

Just don't bother looking at the surly sourfaced reception/front desk at the hotel, press the lift to go to 3rd floor and stare at the tourist posters on the wall until the lift arrives.

Luxury World Hotel.

I heard about the 3 types in the fishbowl and had to see for myself.

As you walk in turn 90deg left and upthe stairs. You will see a L shaped fishbowl, not that many Chinese girls there (some were working I'd assume by what the mamasan said regarding models. These were $2 more than the other 2 and were wearing whatever they felt like) and the ones there were pushing 40 I'd say. The amount of local Khumer girls (wearing orange uniform)were amazing. They just kept streamng out of the back rooms. There would have been about 60+

The viet girls would have been about 20 or so wearing purple.

I chose a cute vn girl. #127. Big mistake.

Got the VIP room for 2hrs at$8hr.

Had a steam room, shower head fixed to the wall and no toilet.

There were mirrors on the walls and one on the ceiling above the bed.

This girl started off with a boring massage, finally she made hand signals to sleep you and me. I said ok, how much in viet? She motioned USD$50. I just lost all interest in boomboom after that. After a while she asked me again, this time it was for $40. I said $20, kept trying to go up to 35/30/25 etc but I was fixed. I was going to say $10 but wanted to see how she would react to $20. After a pause she accepted.

Went to shower and come back, turned off the room lights, and the tv, she was scared people will look into the room, the door has sections with a mirror tint on the outside.

I turned the tv back on but she didn't want to remove her towel. Finally I turned the tv off and she sat there giving me a HJ. I gently pulled her towards my cock to told her I want yum yum and she said no. I asked her again and No was the answer. After that I turned on the tv. I was tempted to go change the girl out but couldn't be bothered, Lost my appetite so to speak.

After the end of the 2hrs she didn't bother asking me for a tip though she was hanging around when she didn't need to be, I was going to give her a 100 are note but as she had ordered a drink but didn't get the attendant to open it so $1. 50 would be enough for her.

I'll come back and try it out again, but not #127, unless you want a boring massage.

[quote=asianpussylover]to all the blabbermouths sophies is closed and so is svay pak. ****phalia? didn't see any thanks to the ngo's, and even if i did i the secret is safe, (wink). there are lots of nice places in cambo. but thanks to a couple of cunts the ngos know where to go to have the really nice places shut down.

good luck in your search.[/quote]which ngo's are these? have a link? i was thinking of making a big donation to help them shut down your favorite places (wink).

[QUOTE=Wendella]Which NGO's are these? Have a link? I was thinking of making a big donation to help them shut down your favorite places (wink).[/QUOTE]There are some NGOs there using dodgy tactics to catch (entrap) people. One I've heard of is inexcusable even if it means catching these sickos.

Anyways some are stupid enough to make certain types of comments on forums like this. I guess they are happy to have their names on more than a few law enforcement watch lists or they wouldn't be so dumb.

[quote=nerdynomad]there are some ngos there using dodgy tactics to catch (entrap) people. one i've heard of is inexcusable even if it means catching these sickos.

anyways some are stupid enough to make certain types of comments on forums like this. i guess they are happy to have their names on more than a few law enforcement watch lists or they wouldn't be so dumb.[/quote]i would like to know the names of such ngos who, as you say, "entrap" people. how? by using **** girls? that would be illegal and they should be reported.

none of us should have no problem with ngos, law enforcement or charities that protect children against ****s. as long as hobbyists stay away from the ****, we provide no one with an excuse to shut the hobby down.

[quote=simian]i would like to know the names of such ngos who, as you say, "entrap" people. how? by using **** girls? that would be illegal and they should be reported.

none of us should have no problem with ngos, law enforcement or charities that protect children against ****s. as long as hobbyists stay away from the ****, we provide no one with an excuse to shut the hobby down.[/quote]i think it was aple who was mentioned, and yes, using **** girls, one case i heard they were waiting till she was having sex with them before they would arrest. i don't know how reliable the info is.

also the police were reportedly involved, no surprise that they are involved in something dodgy, only surprising that they were involved in actually catching these criminals.

just to clear up you're calling mongering the hobby right? not the young'uns.

Yes, some of them do use shady tactics. Not all, but some of them are here to make money. Their cause is secondary. Otherwise, they wouldn't be driving around in new Lexus's and even buying them for corrupt officials. Even Hun Sen says this (not that I'm a big fan of his). They need to make people living on the other side of the world feel sympathetic and outraged.

I know a man who made the international news, recently, for allegedly being with 12 year old girls. It was an NGO that busted him. I won't name them because they are very powerful, probably read these forums, and...I live here.

Anyway, it was in the papers. It was on TV. He fit the profile - old, fat, walked with cane...basically everyone's nightmare when it came to this sort of thing. He was a teacher, so he saw young girls on a daily basis. I'm sure it caught the attention of many from the west, and I'm sure that many opened their wallets and sent money.

The man may very well be guilty. But here's the thing...the week after he made international news, I saw him walking in Sorya Mall. And the next week, I saw him walking on the streets of Phnom Penh. They didn't have any hard evidence against him. If they had, he certainly would have been in a Cambodian jail or sent to the US (he's a US citizen) to be prosecuted.

I'll bet they made a ton of money from the publicity.

Last week, a Frenchman was found with a 15 year old girl at a guesthouse. The same NGO was allowed to talk to her. She told them that she was working out of Walkabout. I live across the street from Walkabout, and know many people who go there regularly. I've never seen anyone there that I thought could possibly be 15 years old. I guess it is possible, but I doubt it. They have been wanting to close down Walkabout for years, and this will help to do it. Now, only girls with ids can enter Walkabout. Most girls do not have ids, and for them, the ids are very expensive to get. Last Friday, Joker Draw Night, the pot was over $10,000, the most ever from what I understand. There was only a handful of people there because of this new rule.

I applaud the NGOs that are altruistic and have noble causes. There are over 3,200 NGOs in Cambodia (I believe more than any other country in the world). I think that there are at least some who have other motives.

[quote=simian]i would like to know the names of such ngos who, as you say, "entrap" people. how? by using **** girls? that would be illegal and they should be reported.

none of us should have no problem with ngos, law enforcement or charities that protect children against ****s. as long as hobbyists stay away from the ****, we provide no one with an excuse to shut the hobby down.[/quote]whoa there buddy, i think nerdy's on our side. ;) anyway, hear him out. entrap how?

[quote=nerdynomad]i think it was aple who was mentioned, and yes, using **** girls, one case i heard they were waiting till she was having sex with them before they would arrest. i don't know how reliable the info is.

also the police were reportedly involved, no surprise that they are involved in something dodgy, only surprising that they were involved in actually catching these criminals.

just to clear up you're calling mongering the hobby right? not the young'uns.[/quote]

it looks like nerdy's post was delayed until appearing in the thread (maybe due to being new account, dunno). when i last posted, it wasn't there in the thread.

i agree it is dodgy, by doing that they're committing the crime themselves (by orchestrating and enabling it, and by encouraging that the act take place). i dont' think anyone caught that way should be let go, just that whoever came up with that scheme should also face the music. i mean, you wouldn't try to catch a killer by setting up a murder and letting the victim be killed, just to solidify your case.

Lots of bullshit and hysteria about the NGOs and entrapment I think.

And some bullshit in the previous thread.

I know the fat guy with the cane and he is not walking the streets, he is in prey saw on remand.

And not many at the WA last night, I find that hard to believe but I I'll check my sources.

I know the fat guy with the cane, too, and I did see him walking the streets. I don't know where he is now.

ngo's don't use **** girls, they don't need to because the girl doesn't have to appear in court or be questioned. also due to u.s pressure, mongering is illegal in scambodia, and entrapement is the new game being played. they can't go after the karokays and m.p's,(have plenty of ****) etc as they are run by gangsters along with cops and military. so now they arer going after the lone white man, one at atime as it is very safe for the ngo's and cops. look at recent issues of cambodian daily and phom penh post.

[quote=simian]none of us should have no problem with ngos, law enforcement or charities that protect children against ****s. as long as hobbyists stay away from the ****, we provide no one with an excuse to shut the hobby down.[/quote]

old fatty mama doesn't care about children, sim, she cares about power.

but relax - nothing nobodies like you or i could ever do would alter the process one iota.

geraldo francisco reporting. been to cambodia several times. forget poi pet with all the beggers. pp is the place to go.

the first time was a visa run from thailand in 2003. just a week to escape songkran in the big mango.

my motordriver took me to some dump with about 20 girls. just to be safe i took the khmer girl who was 22. for two nights we fucked and made use of the tub. then i got bored.

i went to sharkey's bar on street 130. lord, there were fifty girls in there! i started out with a 21 year old, then a 19 year old, then a vietnamese girl of 24. [blue][deleted by admin][/blue]. i left them to an english "gentlemen" who liked little girls. i took the mamasan, age 27-37, nam thi me. she was the best of the bunch.

after nam, i got an 18 year old that i wanted to adopt. but the trip was over.

the next time i visited pp, i was on my way back to thailand with a little rest stop. things had changed. no more motorcycle; everyone had a tuk-tuk or a car. but the number of bars had blossomed.

i stayed in a hotel on street 130 near the central market. from there it was easy to get to sharkey's and plenty of girls. but they were a little more picky. so i started visiting other bars. the wine bar had a number of decent girls and the first night i took home two vietnamese. we had a great time eating, drinking, shopping and fucking ourselves silly. all for less than $150.

it's too bad it all came to an end. i finally got kicked out of the country at the request of the u.s. embassy. a long story but at least i'm not in their jail nor ours. i love that place!

[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]this report was edited to [u]remove references to **** persons[/u].

i am aware that the vast majority of references to **** girls are legitimate attempts to warn other fellow members about how easy it is to accidentally pickup an **** girls, the potential dangers of being caught with **** girls, etc. however, past discussions in the forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterpreted, and without starting flame wars.

please do not post references to **** persons in the forum. [i]thanks![/i][/blue][/size]