Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1376190]Land of the Free, home of the Royally Fucked up the ass and demanding some more.[/QUOTE]Greater Disneyland is all I can call that.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1376103]How can we advise someone when we don't know your interests. Do what you normally do. Eat, sleep, post. I can work too when time between fucking permits LOL. Catch a live Band, learn something new.

Perhaps you should take a really hot girl with you to some other more interesting place, if you don't mind repeating her a few times. I have certainly done that. Try a tropical coral island like Koh Tao, Koh Phi Phi, Lipe (sounds like lee-pay) , etc. I like Mae Hong Son province too.

There is no way that Bangkok will ever be as boring as my original home city, where I would mostly stay at home.[/QUOTE]And you are quite right, you don't now my interests, or rather what I am NOT interested in. And as it happens, what I am not interested in is essentially everything you propose.

So at the end, it is, yeah. Eat, sleep, post. But that's OK for one day only.

I don't know what is your original home city, (if it is somewhere in the midlle of Souuthern US, I can understand.) but that statement does not apply to me at all, my home city is very exciting. And I am never bored there. However, getting sex there, although very possible, is less easy and slightly more expensive than BKK, and more importantly, I am being watched there, while I am a free man in BKK.

Anyway, I will spend 24h in BKK soon, have a nice plan to fill those hours, and a few holes, , and then on to another exciting, non boring place, with lot of weird sex, I have named Tokyo.

Cheers, and again thanks for responding, I enjoy reading your posts anyway.

[QUOTE=Mai Yao;1376178]It is really important to make sure every electronic device you carry into the USA is clean of anything even remotely suggesting sexual activity as indeed, it has been made their business.[/QUOTE]That has to be the worst luck. I know soo many guys that monger in Asia, some go many times a year and I've never heard of anyone geting this treatment. So even if you had pictures how would they prove you were a sex tourist? I've got gigabytes of tourist pictures. I have some of me with women. And although getting laid overseas is not for everyone I don't believe ts against the law unless children are involved. ANd the law is still innocent till proven guilty. Even if one was to have naughty pics. It's up to the government to prove that you did something illegal not you to prove that you didn't. I'm guessing they are not going to waste those resources. That's my take on it.

And what could possibly be wrong with your papers. Are you a citizen? I wouldn't have said a word other than I have done nothing wrong and I want to call my lawyer.

[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1376259]That has to be the worst luck. I know soo many guys that monger in Asia, some go many times a year and I've never heard of anyone geting this treatment. So even if you had pictures how would they prove you were a sex tourist? I've got gigabytes of tourist pictures. I have some of me with women. And although getting laid overseas is not for everyone I don't believe ts against the law unless children are involved. ANd the law is still innocent till proven guilty. Even if one was to have naughty pics. It's up to the government to prove that you did something illegal not you to prove that you didn't. I'm guessing they are not going to waste those resources. That's my take on it.

And what could possibly be wrong with your papers. Are you a citizen? I wouldn't have said a word other than I have done nothing wrong and I want to call my lawyer.[/QUOTE]You'd probably want to take your home country rants elsewhere. It does not really belong to the Bangkok thread, does it? I'd be much more interested how successful your DIA profile is.

[QUOTE=Bilbo456; 1376158]Just a short summary of trip to Bangkok.

Haggle hard and not with your penis!

If you like someone in the clubs be blunt, worst case you get refused. So what!

When your not despeate the price comes down, the more desperate you look the more likeihood the price won't go down.

Try and establish some sort of rapport with the girl, even a smile to start with. That way service is likely to be better. In a massage line up, Do not pick the ones that are looking down or seem disinterested in you, pick the one with a smile.

In a club make sure the girl you have picked likes you, have a few drinks, have a short chat. But don't leave it too long in case she gets a better offer. 15-30mins is enough time to talk, establish a good rapport and get back to the hotel.[/QUOTE]Nicely done. A good read!

[quote=fruitninja;1376259]that has to be the worst luck. i know soo many guys that monger in asia, some go many times a year and i've never heard of anyone geting this treatment. so even if you had pictures how would they prove you were a sex tourist? i've got gigabytes of tourist pictures. i have some of me with women. and although getting laid overseas is not for everyone i don't believe ts against the law unless children are involved. and the law is still innocent till proven guilty. even if one was to have naughty pics. it's up to the government to prove that you did something illegal not you to prove that you didn't. i'm guessing they are not going to waste those resources. that's my take on it.[/quote]the latest hysteria is labeling almost anything as "trafficking" regardless of age and obvious consent by the providers. for example malaysia is now raiding massage parlors and claiming "fish bowls" simply by being present are proof of trafficking in and of themselves, thereby patrons could well be charged with aiding and abetting trafficking by using the facilities. therefore even a picture of a fish bowl in the picture on an electronic device going into the usa or elsewhere could put one at extreme risk, as le needs to justify the now billions being spent (on training courses, new equipment and so forth) fighting this (mostly 99% ginned up hype)"scourge". like many past hysterias (example: the claim in the usa that 1 in 4 college women were raped, or that 100, 000 children disappeared in the usa each year versus the real number 30 to 40) , it will take 10 to 20 years to run its course.

[quote=fruitninja;1376259]that has to be the worst luck. i know soo many guys that monger in asia, some go many times a year and i've never heard of anyone geting this treatment. so even if you had pictures how would they prove you were a sex tourist? i've got gigabytes of tourist pictures. i have some of me with women. and although getting laid overseas is not for everyone i don't believe ts against the law unless children are involved. and the law is still innocent till proven guilty. even if one was to have naughty pics. it's up to the government to prove that you did something illegal not you to prove that you didn't. i'm guessing they are not going to waste those resources. that's my take on it.[/quote]the latest hysteria is labeling almost anything as "trafficking" regardless of age and obvious consent by the providers. for example malaysia is now raiding massage parlors and claiming "fish bowls" simply by being present are proof of trafficking in and of themselves, thereby patrons could well be charged with aiding and abetting trafficking by using the facilities. therefore even a picture of a fish bowl in the picture on an electronic device going into the usa or elsewhere could put one at extreme risk, as le needs to justify the now billions being spent (on training courses, new equipment and so forth) fighting this (mostly 99% ginned up hype)"scourge". like many past hysterias (example: the claim in the usa that 1 in 4 college women were raped, or that 100, 000 children disappeared in the usa each year versus the real number 30 to 40) , it will take 10 to 20 years to run its course.

[QUOTE=Mai Yao; 1376178]A lot of US Citizens who travel to Thailand, The Philippines, Cambodia and many other countries do not realize that US Customs and Border Protection Service is now specifically required to question anybody suspected of "Sex Tourism" and if they find any evidence of sex tourism, to pass the information on to appropriate authorities.

Last July, I went thru customs at LAX, travelling from Bangkok. I was carrying commercial merchandise and I was delayed in customs by a glitch in my paperwork. While I was waiting, they started questioning me pointedly about my stay in Thailand and visits to the Philippines. They examined my mobile and found some pictures taken at a pool party in Angeles City. Fortunately, everybody was in bathing suits and no bare flesh was showing but they really honed in on how did I know the girls were over 18. What proof had I demanded? I was questioned for a long time and a US Marshell was called in. He also questioned me and took down all my passport details. After about 90 minutes of this BS, a supervisor determined that there was nothing specific to justify further questioning and I was allowed to pass out of customs. BTW, just to add insult to injury; all the Customs officers spoke Spanish among themselves when discussing my case.

It is really important to make sure every electronic device you carry into the USA is clean of anything even remotely suggesting sexual activity as indeed, it has been made their business.[/QUOTE]I am sure this advice was given before.

Upload all the pictures whether it is naughty or nice to your email. You can recover it and store in your computer from your e mails. So in case anybody checks or questions there is nothing on your mobile device or camera.

Usually they check everything and ask all sorts of questions if they find other irregularities rather than just pull you out for questioning just because your passport shows stamps from Thailand and Philippines.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1376252]Anyway, I will spend 24h in BKK soon, have a nice plan to fill those hours, and a few holes, and then on to another exciting, non boring place, with lot of weird sex, I have named Tokyo.[/QUOTE]Well sorry about being a guy with such plain likes and nothing in the weird category. The weirdest I ever get, is taking more than one girl concurrently for extended sex sessions. That can be a lot of fun with the right girls. Probably doesn't even start to qualify as weird.

Bangkok is not a place to stay for any length of time for many.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1376265]You'd probably want to take your home country rants elsewhere. It does not really belong to the Bangkok thread, does it? I'd be much more interested how successful your DIA profile is.[/QUOTE]Bangkok is one of the word's largest mongering destinations, and Mai Yao post is a valuable early warning of a growing and expanding soon to get worse emerging issue directly flowing from the latest "scourge" so called human "trafficking", domestic or elsewhere. Law enforcement and homeland security now has to justify all that training and seminar time focused on this area, so they will attempt to build a case no matter how flimsy the evidence.

Its now reached hysteria levels in the USA, and government agencies and "NGO's" and others testifying before Congress have been repeatedly allowed to make up phony self serving (research grant fund perpetuating) statistics out of thin air without any factual basis, and if you don't believe this, research the phony stats used for the World Cup Games held in South Africa a few years back, as well as in Superbowls in the USA in recent years, such events in each case purportedly were to be descended upon from the outside by vast hordes of "trafficked" providers, which in each case has never happened, in fact with not even tiny numbers of such providers showing up.

[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1376259]And what could possibly be wrong with your papers. Are you a citizen? I wouldn't have said a word other than I have done nothing wrong and I want to call my lawyer.[/QUOTE]You have your own lawyer? Most people don't, yes you can fall on your sword over this but after a long 10 to 20 hour or more flight why would you? You're tired and want to get on with your business. If you've done nothing wrong, be polite, play the game and move on. Anyone following your advice better be prepared to sit in an office for prolong periods of time being hassled when they could have been on their way.

[QUOTE=Mai Yao;1376178]Last July, I went thru customs at LAX, travelling from Bangkok. I was carrying commercial merchandise and I was delayed in customs by a glitch in my paperwork. While I was waiting, they started questioning me pointedly about my stay in Thailand and visits to the Philippines. They examined my mobile and found some pictures taken at a pool party in Angeles City. Fortunately, everybody was in bathing suits and no bare flesh was showing but they really honed in on how did I know the girls were over 18. What proof had I demanded?[/QUOTE]Forgetting the obvious jurisdictional issues, its hard to even fathom what the alleged crime would be for merely being present if lets say a 17 year old female was in a bikini at a pool party and you were at that party.

Witch hunts of course don't need to be rational.

The ball busting feminists in the USA including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are pushing very hard to gin up the alleged "trafficking" hysteria in the USA and elsewhere, and herself and other busy body groups are already making this issue in Burma's upcoming development, even if it sweeps in consensual activities and slows down commercial development.

While ACTUAL human "trafficking" is a real issue and a real scourge (and obviously occurring in some parts of Burma, Cambodia and elsewhere) that should be dealt with very harshly, the debate will never be fair or honest. Lets say someone goes to ABC or Wild Orchid in AC and has photos, the authorities in lets say the USA could well eventually claim by some use of some nonsensical international agreement or understanding, that those locales are established "trafficked" zones and one's mere attendance at any such pool party where partially clad (bikini) nudity is displayed, means the person has aided and abetted trafficking. They will do this (just as they have with other stats) by a quite convoluted logic that is as follows: "no woman would hang at ABC nor attend such parties unless she was really a working girl, and no female really consents to sexual activities for money as it is debasing, so therefore she must be either trafficked or self trafficked". All this is nonsense of course, but its standard feminist dogma which has now infiltriated into official State Department policies at various levels.

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1376306]You have your own lawyer? Most people don't, yes you can fall on your sword over this but after a long 10 to 20 hour or more flight why would you? You're tired and want to get on with your business. If you've done nothing wrong, be polite, play the game and move on. Anyone following your advice better be prepared to sit in an office for prolong periods of time being hassled when they could have been on their way.[/QUOTE]Good advice, play the game. Also, understand that this is all about funding. One official present will probably be a specialist on this issue, (extra training and so forth) and they want to justify their budgets each year, so if they can tie someone up for a few hours here and there on flimsy charges, they got what they need to keep the program going. We're in the early hysteria phase of this issue, so some officials might actually believe all the nonsense (and phony stats) they've been told, so they could actually try to make an example out of someone who resists.

[QUOTE=Mai Yao;1376178]A lot of US Citizens who travel to Thailand, The Philippines, Cambodia and many other countries do not realize that US Customs and Border Protection Service is now specifically required to question anybody suspected of "Sex Tourism" and if they find any evidence of sex tourism, to pass the information on to appropriate authorities.[/QUOTE]You guys are getting hysterical about a genuine concern. Their main concern is with child porn and child sex tourists. It is a major scourge, especially in SEA. And a lot of US Citizens have been arrested in this regard. If I were the customs / immigration agent I would ask too, when seeing the number of visits. Yes, there are a*h*s immigration agents, and I have been asked inappropriate questions, when coming from Canada. But once in a while they are not the enemy.

i consider a paedophile to be someone who is attracted to children not yet fully developed, and needs them in preference to adults, and may try to get them sexually by trickery. this is probably no where near the legal definition.

consider this problem. there are **** girls working in bars and mps in bangkok. often staff will warn me if girls are very young, although i have never been interested in the excessively young ones. however looks can be deceptive. very tall girls may not look very child-like but can be young. girls supporting babies can be quite young. one girl with a 2 year old baby turned out to be just 19 years. who would have guessed without checking? of course she has done a lot of fucking as a bargirl by her own choice since she was 18 or maybe even earlier, i don't know. she has to get money and she chooses to work as a bg so is hardly being exploited. indeed she would be very upset if she was being prevented from working. sometimes she is enjoying a nice screw too.

i am aware that for many mongers, especially asian ones, the word "beauty" equates to "youth" and "white skin" (and maybe no baby) in their eyes, although i don't understand why.

i don't think 19 is a strictly forbidden ****, but i am aware of at least one hotel (solo) that claimed they could not allow a room guest under the age of 20. strangely they would allow the same girl to check in, so to be officially not be a temporary room guest.

i have heard that some mps do not officially allow girls **** of 20 to work. of course the reality may be that some are designated as being 20 when in fact they are not.