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[QUOTE=DrPoon;2636196]Pretty much low to zero risk if it is in your locker.

To give an idea of how much more safety in Germany compared to the USA. One can go pump gas in Germany and not even prepay for gas! I asked a gas attendant if anyone ever stole gas since the gas can be taken prior to payment and he said, "Never. We don't have this problem in Germany".[/QUOTE]I hear that girls money was stolen in dormitory in Artemis and this girl lost all the money she saved during her few weeks stay at Artemis fucking! Which is quite cruel reality of brothel life!

I never heard clients losing anything though, but once I was putting quite large amount of money in locker in changing room and some random old monger saw that and told me to put the money in safe box and not in locker room. I was already experienced FKK goers back then, but what he kind advised me do make sense as those wood made locker can be easily broken in, but safe box is kind of harder and it is often in main area of FKK by reception in many FKK!

Only criminal incident I hard in FKK is murder of girl by clients and this big fights in Artemis between security and some Russian clients which clients won the fight against security and got away from club not paying LOL!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2636274]Lebanese girls at Globe. Iranian Sepid with her taboos at GT Vienna.[/QUOTE]Also new Iranian at Globe and 2 or 3 Lebanese.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2636196]Pretty much low to zero risk if it is in your locker.

To give an idea of how much more safety in Germany compared to the USA. One can go pump gas in Germany and not even prepay for gas! I asked a gas attendant if anyone ever stole gas since the gas can be taken prior to payment and he said, "Never. We don't have this problem in Germany.[/QUOTE]I agree that Germany is more safe. But, if it is true that that someone has to prepay at the pump it has more to do with the pumps now allowing credit card payments at the pumps and people saving time. I never had to prepay in the past before the pumps changed. It is not a good example at least to me who lives in the US. Maybe they changed they their policies because everyone uses a card and they can get away with shafting people without a credit card. Having to prepay when you want a full tank and can afford to fill it up all the way is an annoyance. Some broke people do it. I always saw it as something broke people did so they wouldn't pump too much.

My God Mr. Ho! Look at some of the beauties on this site (recommended from another thread): [URL]https://relaxkiev.com/en/.[/URL] If only more of these hot Ukrainian tutes were available in Germany! Or in Brazil even hahaha! See so many on there that are my type. Dick getting hard! I hate I live in a country where "tuting" is illegal! And I don't particularly want to go to Ukraine. I want to meet them in Germany!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2636367]I hear that girls money was stolen in dormitory in Artemis and this girl lost all the money she saved during her few weeks stay at Artemis fucking! Which is quite cruel reality of brothel life![/QUOTE]I've heard from many girls that women are merciless and steal everything from each other: money, cosmetics, gadgets, jewelry, and everything else that can be taken. The trick is to avoid being caught by the security cameras. In 2017 in LR ladies locker room one girl I knew back then told me her Android tablet was taken from her locker which she forgot to lock while showering. Unfortunately she noticed the disappearance on the next day and the security tape has already been recorded over. Only 24 hours round the clock of the camera footage could be reviewed.

I believe men's locker rooms in FKKs are safe. I've seen regulars in multiple clubs leaving plenty of cash in their lockers. One possibility is to keep half of your money in the main locker and another half in the wallet locker in those clubs where the wallet lockers are available. Just don't flash a wad of money in front of everybody in a crowded locker room. Having a safe in your hotel room is a big plus to avoid carrying all your cash with you all the time.

Hi,

I haven't been to FKK yet.

I have a question, which club around Frankfurt is recommended for beginners?

However, please exclude Sharks.

[QUOTE=Recoordy;2636616]Hi,

I haven't been to FKK yet.

I have a question, which club around Frankfurt is recommended for beginners?

However, please exclude Sharks.[/QUOTE]Let me give you some advice, as I've been to all 6-7 FKK's around Frankfurt dozens of times over the last 10 years.

Go to Sharks!

Here's why.

1. Sharks will have the biggest line up of women on a Friday and Sat night 80-100+ so you can talk to a different girl every ten minutes and never talk to the same girl twice.

This will allow you to find, not only a girl you really like, but not be pushed around by hungry little Romanian twats with bad attitudes.

As a rookie you want to go to a club where you have more options, the more you have the easier it will be to find someone you like, at the price you are willing to pay.

2. Sharks is a big club, maybe not the biggest (Sq. Ft) in / around Frankfurt, Oase might be bigger, but it is a great all around club and it's 22 minutes by train from Hbf, followed by a short 10 min cab ride from the train station.

Oase is about 45-50 minutes away and I don't know how to get there if the Oase shuttle bus isn't running, as that's the way I would get there if I was going. If you have a car great! Oase is a big club, with lots of women, it's just farther away.

Palace is small and frankly they've remodeled it twice in the last 10 years making the ambiance worse each time they remodeled it. Now the club has a large oval shaped bar in the middle of the room with stools and elevated / stepped seating areas around it. It used to have more areas to relax with two bars. Of course this is subjective and my opinion. Also Palace has no outside area like Sharks and Oase and a very small wellness area and 50% of the time I visit at least 1 sauna isn't working and the indoor pool can be seen from the bar (which reduces some privacy, which I don't like). Mainhatten is pretty big, with a decent wellness area and an outside area with just grass and it's a short 20 min tram ride from Frankfurt Hbf. Mainhatten also has a very large kino. But Palace does as well. So that's a tie!

3. Most important! The women at each club. I'll break down Sharks, Palace, Mainhatten and Oase.

Sharks. Because you will have the largest selection (80+) women at Sharks you will find a solid bell curve in optics and negotiating tactics. Ex. 10-15 will be good, 30-40 will be average, the rest you won't want to waste your time with.

Palace. Might be 20-30 women and possibly more (50+) on a Fri or Sat night. But once again you will still categorize them into a bell curve, which means there will be fewer in the range of women you will want to go to a room with. If you have fewer women, and you talk with them and don't find the right chemistry, you're left with the average girls remaining.

You will find a group of blond Germans at both Sharks and Palace and now days they are the toughest to negotiate with and that was probably always the case even after the 2017 law. They usually hold strong to 100 Euro now for basic service. I've talked a couple of them down to 50-70 but I haven't been to Germany in 1 year, so not sure what the girls are doing today.

Manhattan. Will have 15-25 girls and maybe a few more 30+ on weekends and you can find gems, but just remember it's a numbers game. You can pull a girl away from the bar area at Manhatten to talk to her and negotiate fairly easy. Palace is more difficult because everyone has to congregate around a small bar in the middle of the room. So if you piss of one of the German girls at Palace (like I have or walk out of a room because you came to a disagreement) everyone will see it and now none of the other hot girls in the German group will want to go with you. The bigger the club (more girls) the more you can avoid having all the other girls see your failed negotiations, so it will be easier to move to the next girl.

Oase. Always had a decent number of girls 50+ (I only went on weekends) and I've had some great experiences, it's just far outside Frankfurt.

Always remember basic service usually starts, or at least used to start at 50 Euro. (BBBJ and sex), many girls will still abide by this if they see you are experienced in the land of FKK. In 2017 they passed a condom law and immediately the girls started upselling for BBBJ. Now most girls will try and start at 100 Euro, and most guys who are new to the FKK scene won't know any better. I still start all negotiations at 50 Euro and will get most of the girls to go at that price or 60-70 including BBBJ. If you can't resist the hottest blond in the club and she holds firm at 100 Euro, go for it. YOLO.

You'll learn fairly quickly once you get into it.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2636558]My God Mr. Ho! Look at some of the beauties on this site (recommended from another thread): [URL]https://relaxkiev.com/en/.[/URL] If only more of these hot Ukrainian tutes were available in Germany! Or in Brazil even hahaha! See so many on there that are my type. Dick getting hard! I hate I live in a country where "tuting" is illegal! And I don't particularly want to go to Ukraine. I want to meet them in Germany![/QUOTE]For my little experience of both, Romanians have better care for their look than Ukrainians and Germans. Now unfortunately, most of escorts in Paris are Ukrainian instead of past Russians, not at all same level of looks nor quality. I usually don't go with Ukrainian escorts, I prefer some Romanians in FKK.

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2636591]I've heard from many girls that women are merciless and steal everything from each other: money, cosmetics, gadgets, jewelry, and everything else that can be taken. The trick is to avoid being caught by the security cameras. In 2017 in LR ladies locker room one girl I knew back then told me her Android tablet was taken from her locker which she forgot to lock while showering. Unfortunately she noticed the disappearance on the next day and the security tape has already been recorded over. Only 24 hours round the clock of the camera footage could be reviewed.

I believe men's locker rooms in FKKs are safe. I've seen regulars in multiple clubs leaving plenty of cash in their lockers. One possibility is to keep half of your money in the main locker and another half in the wallet locker in those clubs where the wallet lockers are available. Just don't flash a wad of money in front of everybody in a crowded locker room. Having a safe in your hotel room is a big plus to avoid carrying all your cash with you all the time.[/QUOTE]Its economics, the guys are better off financially than the girls. Some years ago some bloke forgot his wallet with money and cards in a locker at Oase and left the club. The key was given to another monger who entered after. The monger found the wallet and gave it to the front desk. The owner returned frantically and was presented with his wallet. I feel real sorry for that girl who lost all her earnings at Artemis.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2636861]Its economics, the guys are better off financially than the girls. Some years ago some bloke forgot his wallet with money and cards in a locker at Oase and left the club. The key was given to another monger who entered after. The monger found the wallet and gave it to the front desk. The owner returned frantically and was presented with his wallet. I feel real sorry for that girl who lost all her earnings at Artemis.[/QUOTE]I remember one time a really popular girl with the mongers in Costa Rica had her hard won money stolen by another girl working at that San Jose club. And of course, the girls will steal from us out of our hotel rooms and apartments if we aren't careful. We read about that all the time. I make sure I keep my money and valuables locked up. The only time I have had anything taken was when a tute I brought back to my Panama City hotel room sneakily took a little bottle of alcohol from the mini bar. I didn't notice until she had left. It was no big cost to me, but it was just annoying. Had she just asked, I probably would have just said OK. But no, she had to steal! I remember we had dinner in my room. First she asked for shrimp, but then tried to change her mind and get lobster instead! I put the fucking brakes on that. At least she was a good fuck and gave up face pics too LOL!

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2636674]Oase is about 45-50 minutes away and I don't know how to get there if the Oase shuttle bus isn't running, as that's the way I would get there if I was going. If you have a car great! Oase is a big club, with lots of women, it's just farther away. Oase. Always had a decent number of girls 50+ (I only went on weekends) and I've had some great experiences, it's just far outside Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]You make many, many good points in your post, but giving Sharks the nod over Oase based on distance from Frankfurt isn't one of them. They are [B]both[/B] quite far from the Frankfurt city center where I normally stay. But, thank goodness they are both easy to get to as well [B]without needing a car[/B].

Oase has consistently been my favorite club in the Frankfurt metro area. To get to Oase, take an inexpensive train ride on the S5 to Friedrichsdorf. Then from there, take a short taxi ride to the club. To get to Sharks, take another inexpensive train ride on the S3 to Darmstadt, and again take a short taxi ride to the club.

If you stay at either club late after the trains have stopped running, then unless you do have a car, you will have to take a taxi back to Frankfurt. In the past, it has run me in the neighborhood of 50 to 60 euros to do this from each club. So, when it comes to distance from Frankfurt, it's a draw between Oase and Sharks with Palace (my personal number 2) being the clear winner as the easiest to get to followed by Mainhaittan (dead last on my personal list).

I didn't mention World in my last post in this thread. Located in Polheim, World is the clear loser when it comes to distance from Frankfurt. I don't know if Polheim technically can even be considered to be in the Frankfurt metro area. But what I do know is that there was a time when I had World right up there with Oase as one of my definite must-do clubs. My mode of transportation to World is the same as with Oase and Sharks (train then taxi), but it's just that the trip takes longer (but still not too expensive). First, take the train (Regional Express, Regional Bahn, or ICE) to Giessen, and then from there get a taxi the rest of the way to Polheim and the club, which again is a short ride away. This is how you do in Germany. You don't have to have a car. The train can get you to many, many places! That said, if you stay late, again you will have to taxi back if you don't have a car, and the cost of the taxi ride back to the Frankfurt city center from Polheim will be rather steep. But hey, you got to do what you got to do of you want to be who you want to be!

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2636674]Let me give you some advice, as I've been to all 6-7 FKK's around Frankfurt dozens of times over the last 10 years.

Go to Sharks!

Here's why.

1. Sharks will have the biggest line up of women on a Friday and Sat night 80-100+ so you can talk to a different girl every ten minutes and never talk to the same girl twice.

This will allow you to find, not only a girl you really like, but not be pushed around by hungry little Romanian twats with bad attitudes.

As a rookie you want to go to a club where you have more options, the more you have the easier it will be to find someone you like, at the price you are willing to pay.

2. Sharks is a big club, maybe not the biggest (Sq. Ft) in / around Frankfurt, Oase might be bigger, but it is a great all around club and it's 22 minutes by train from Hbf, followed by a short 10 min cab ride from the train station..[/QUOTE]For German girls, Palace should be higher level than Sharks where they are not really pretty. But I agree Sharks is best casting, even I don't find many on my standard, couldn't find one on yesterday Friday.

Like many of you, its been a while since I've been to Germany. I just took a look at the Deutsche Bahn site and, at least what turned up from my sample searches, they're at least for now running lots of faster trains between Frankfurt and Darmstadt, so now you can get to Darmstadt quicker than you can to Friedrichsdorf, with the latter still only being served on a slower S train route. Be that as it may, that doesn't change distance, and I would not recommend that anybody let distance be a deciding factor as to whether or not to go to Sharks versus Oase. What I noted before still holds true, which is that it's very easy to get to either club without a car. Just do a train / taxi tandem ride at a relatively low cost.

We're talking a little less than 30 minutes on the train to Oase, and maybe about half that amount of time on the train to Sharks (if it's a fast train). Besides, if you stay late into the morning at either club fucking and drinking and eating, you're still facing about an equal length taxi ride back to Frankfurt. In my opinion, World is the only club where distance from Frankfurt ought to be an important factor. When World was the bomb, it was a must-see club no doubt! But these days, even since before COVID actually, not so much anymore. I still never heard a good explanation for what happened at World and why it fell off so much. Anyway, Germany with all of these different fucking trains! S, RE, RB, ICE, IC, EC! How the hell is a monger supposed to keep it all straight!

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2636591]I've heard from many girls that women are merciless and steal everything from each other: money, cosmetics, gadgets, jewelry, and everything else that can be taken. The trick is to avoid being caught by the security cameras. In 2017 in LR ladies locker room one girl I knew back then told me her Android tablet was taken from her locker which she forgot to lock while showering. Unfortunately she noticed the disappearance on the next day and the security tape has already been recorded over. Only 24 hours round the clock of the camera footage could be reviewed.

I believe men's locker rooms in FKKs are safe. I've seen regulars in multiple clubs leaving plenty of cash in their lockers. One possibility is to keep half of your money in the main locker and another half in the wallet locker in those clubs where the wallet lockers are available. Just don't flash a wad of money in front of everybody in a crowded locker room. Having a safe in your hotel room is a big plus to avoid carrying all your cash with you all the time.[/QUOTE]Yes, when pimp / peste pressure for money, girls steal others: cash, phone. I remember Megan was stolen her week business at Sharks, big money, even can't compare with Globe.