FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Palace is a lot cleaner than Oase. Oase always has been and still is somewhat filthy and dirty. [/QUOTE]


Hey HB,

Sure can't disagree with you on that point. In fact, I have been schimpfing about that on this board and others for years now.

BTW: Sorry to "Englishize" the Tunwort "schimpfen", but I am not allowed to say "bitching".

That locker room at Oase is a science project. Bring your own slippers unless you want to end up with a case of Fußpilz that will stay with you for a decade or so.

The rest of the club seems to have improved, sanitation-wise.


[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]
Food at Oase is almost uneatable, the location also mess - they just renovated the whole club and then this solution for the food? What a ...

Food at Palace (especially breakfast) is much better, they should just not run out 30 min after it has been served. But actually this happened at Oase also the night before.

HB[/QUOTE]

Personally, I don't have a big problem with the food at Oase, but it is too bad that they don't had a buffet set up. Plenty of room to do so.

I'll admit that Palace usually has decent food. I'd rather they invest more in customer service from the aspect of the girls' attitudes, but that's just me.

On that note, I had an interesting conversation with an off and on Palace worker last weekend. Remember that collusion theory that I had? It got confirmed again.

But at least, the food there is edible.

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Visual]

I would say she medium height, long legs and soft large breast very friendly, talkative and seemed to enjoy what she did. She smiled a lot but her teeth showed years of smoking. Is she Michelle (Swiss)[/QUOTE]


Yes, your description fits to her. Brownish, long, curly hair. And as you said, she's smiling a lot.

Globus

[QUOTE=Globus]Yes, your description fits to her. Brownish, long, curly hair. And as you said, she's smiling a lot.

Globus[/QUOTE]Thanks for the confirmation.

She is GOOD and on par with Monika from Bernds

[QUOTE=Breadman]Deciding factor is that 90% of the girls at Palace are sharks...and that you can get better service from 90% of the Oase girls any day.[/QUOTE]

On what empirics do you base that? I still don't agree, and I do visit both clubs on a regular basis.

HB

[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]I think you may find it less stuffy as smoking is segregated from the bar area and the main lounge area. There is also a section of the lounge area designated non smoking as well. I like this area to have a nap and as its to the side there is less girl traffic to hound you for another session.

West by Sun, give Oase a try and see for you self.[/QUOTE]Yes. Following your advice, I went to Oase at Thursday this week. I had been worried that the place would be deserted because of Dessous Tag. But is was ok; certainly it seemed that girls lineup was less attractive than Palace's, but I don't need twenty girls in one night, so I think the quality of only top three or four girls is more important than average quality. In this point of vue, girls lineup was ok. I had two sessions with Lucia from Italy, a session with Ambra from Italy too and a session with Nicole from Romania. In short, all of them gave me an excellent service. It was really nice. They are all very very pushy and persistant in taking me to room. As I am accustumed to Palace, I had been on guard againt their over persistence. But I realize that it was not necessary to be such nervous to avoid sharks, because in Oase the girls provide much better service.

I made a mistake. I asked Lucia if she was really from Italy or not. It seems this question offensed a little her. Sorry Lucia.

And LBC, you are right, I didn't feel main launge area was so stuffy. Especially no smoking area was rather comfortable.

Folks are talking about Oase's dinner. I had pork in gravy,it was tasty even if it was not well decorated. Palace'dishes looks appetizing but it tastes awful. As Conclusion, Oase is so hot, however I can not say farewell to Palace for the moment.

Kind regards,

WBS

[QUOTE=Breadman]About time someone came 'clean'...everyone please stop visiting Oase and leave all the cuties to little old breadman ;-)

Have to wonder why some people visit these clubs...facilities or the girls? Deciding factor is that 90% of the girls at Palace are sharks...and that you can get better service from 90% of the Oase girls any day.[/QUOTE]I do not know why you repeat this all the time.I visit both clubs. Come to FRA and visit Palace first night, then spend the day at Oase next day. Nice.

girls both places. Palace wins for rooms. foods etc.But Oase will win in summer with outdoor facilities.Some of the girls are both places. I enjoy both places.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]On what empirics do you base that? I still don't agree, and I do visit both clubs on a regular basis.

HB[/QUOTE]I think that's the Clou, Bub. Most of us cannot visit the clubs as often as you do (hey, which one do you sleep at? And I see you are going abroad to NRW soon.... nervous about the strange culture up there? LOL), and get caught more often by the traps at Palace for example. You read about it so often, and it happens to me too. For more irregular visitors I think Oase is giving you a better chance of landing a decent choice.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]On what empirics do you base that? I still don't agree, and I do visit both clubs on a regular basis.

HB[/QUOTE]

I base it on my last visit with Regnad...out of the 8 different girls we went with, all 8 wanted to cut the time short. Not saying all of them are bad...just that most seemed to be in the processing mode. I was sitting with Chicafan for an hour or so...and went with a girl who seemed to get along with him. Figured she'd see me sitting with him and would be a good choice. Not a chance...once in the room it was business as usual.

You and Dedalus and others that are regulars and the girls see you every other week or so can manage great sessions...the guys who visit infrequently are the one's getting the cold and short sessions. Question is...how many visits to Palace have you made total? If its over 15 then the girls know that your a regular and not to fuck with you. Me, it was my first visit and I got the other end of the stick. Im not a rookie posting that Palace had alot of sharks....been in the hobby for over 12 years, I post what I see.

Would I visit Palace again? Maybe...if I was stuck in Frankfurt and couldn't get to Oase...or just needed a change of pace.

[QUOTE=Breadman]

You and Dedalus and others that are regulars and the girls see you every other week or so can manage great sessions...the guys who visit infrequently are the one's getting the cold and short sessions. Question is...how many visits to Palace have you made total? If its over 15 then the girls know that your a regular and not to fuck with you. Me, it was my first visit and I got the other end of the stick. Im not a rookie posting that Palace had alot of sharks....been in the hobby for over 12 years, I post what I see.

Would I visit Palace again? Maybe...if I was stuck in Frankfurt and couldn't get to Oase...or just needed a change of pace.[/QUOTE]

Hey Breadman,

You make an excellent point. It is true that I get treated pretty well at the clubs that I visit. Even though Palace is not a place that I visit so much any more, I still get a smile and "How's it going?" from the people who work there. Some girls at a few clubs may not like me because I do not go with them, but they know better than to give a regular a bad time.

Just as Hessen Bub may not understand those who have a problem with Palace, I have a difficult time understanding those who can't have a great time at World or Oase.

Toscana also makes a very good point. As a regular visitor at World and Oase, and a former die-hard regular at Palace, not many girls who have price gouging and scamming on their mind will bother trying that crap on me. Irregulars may get hosed at any place, but it is more likely to happen at Palace. There is a reason for this:

Most of the girls at Palace have enacted their own price structure, which is higher than the house prices. Girls who have been there for awhile can get away without going along with this, but the new ones have to play along or they get a pretty hard time. That's why girls at Palace are trying to charge an extra 50 euros for things like kissing, BBBJ, Kino sessions and other things that are standard menu items for a normal 50 Euro session. For the girls that are part of this collusion, a 50 Euro session will be just like a bad, rushed, 10 minute RLD session.

I suspected this was happening even before the price increase at Palace, but in the last month and a half, I have gotten good confirmation that this is what's going down.

I know no other club other than GT where this is happening. And at GT it is only a handful of girls who are insisting on 50 EUR per half hour, and they are honest and tell you that up front. At Palace the girls will trick you into the room and then hit you with the their price scheme once you are into the act, so your already hooked for 50.

Our man the Bubster is one of the most informed Gents in the Hessen scene. Also a good guy. HB can certainly compare the Romanian crew at Oase to the one at Palace better than I can. I will certainly admit that there is more and probably better eye-candy in the Palace click. But I can get good, standard 30 minutes sessions out of Maria's crew at Oase. This just is not possible for most of us with that Olympia, Andra, Julia, Lorena, Paola click at Palace. In fact HB, you and I have talked about Lorena's ways with unsuspecting English speakers. I know she's a great session for you and actually I am somewhat jealous. She's hotter than a June bride in a feather-bed. But most of the guys who I know that she has tagged had both expensive AND crap sessions with her. Once she treated a running-mate of mine terribly for an hour. At the end of 50 minutes he was 150 Euros poorer and more than disappointed. She was sweet as syrup until they entered the room.

What I can't understand is how she thought that I would actually go with her after treating my friend that way. Really dumb on her part. She was not busy for the rest of the day and night. Had she been a good session, then my running-mate and I would have traded her off for most of the night and paid her well for it.

I won't throw a percentage of good-to-bad sessions in the Big-Three. No way of knowing that for sure. Like Breadman, I only can comment on what I see and hear.

BTW HB, Next weekend at GT, Mercedes will probably be working. She is usually there at the end and beginning of the month. Tall, blond, teased hair. Some neat tattoos. Seriously good session!!! You missed Kathrin, a stunning, dark-haired Romanian who, next to Leila at World is the best session I have had this year. She should be back in a few weeks.
Also there is a blond elf-like beauty who was solidly booked last Saturday. Wish I had more intel on her. Next to Kathrin,, she was the most stunning gal there. You might even luck out and run into Russian Melissa. Word is that she was in attendance last Friday.

Food for thought. None of these gals will hit you up for an extra 50 fish just for a little lip-locking.

Cheerio,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Dedalus]Most of the girls at Palace have enacted their own price structure, which is higher than the house prices. [/QUOTE]

Disagree. There's some, that's a fact. Just ignore them. Maybe they just never tried it with me, who knows.

[QUOTE=Dedalus]But I can get good, standard 30 minutes sessions out of Maria's crew at Oase. This just is not possible for most of us with that Olympia, Andra, Julia, Lorena, Paola click at Palace. [/QUOTE]

I've had great sessions with Maria, Lia, Simona at Oase. And great sessions with Lorena, Carina, Andra, Olympia, Indira, Mona, even Chiara. Don't know what I do differently, ask the girls ... ;-)

[QUOTE=Dedalus]What I can't understand is how she thought that I would actually go with her after treating my friend that way. [/QUOTE]

Lorena just had a great report here on the board from a newbie. Just my 2 cents: It is not always the girls fault if there's bad service. What did your friend expect from her? I know a handfull of guys who had terriffic sessions with Lorena. But just leave her for me, that's more than OK. ;-)

Thx for the "tips" for GT, but I might be @ LR. Any suggestions?

HB

How about we give the Palace vs. Oase and Palace girls are all sharks discussions a rest?

By now, I think we know where everyone stands on this. If you go to Palace and have a good time write a report. If you have a bad time, write a report. An endless rehash of everyone's preferences and prejudices does no one any good.

[QUOTE=West By Sun]Yes. Following your advice, I went to Oase at Thursday this week...
I had two sessions with Lucia from Italy, a session with Ambra from Italy too and a session with Nicole from Romania. In short, all of them gave me an excellent service. It was really nice. They are all very very pushy and persistant in taking me to room. As I am accustumed to Palace, I had been on guard againt their over persistence. But I realize that it was not necessary to be such nervous to avoid sharks, because in Oase the girls provide much better service.

I made a mistake. I asked Lucia if she was really from Italy or not. It seems this question offensed a little her. Sorry Lucia.


WBS[/QUOTE]

As far as I know, both girls, Lucia and Ambra, are 1000% Romanian! It is very common for Romanian girls, often (but not always) leaning towards the shark or processor type, to claim they are from either Spain or Italy, or as it happens, "half-Italian/half-Spanish" etc. This is a sure sign they are actually Romanian and trying to hide it. In fact, I always reject Lucia at the outset simply because she clearly tries to deceive her origin, so I don't trust her to be honest during a session. (Also there are lots of better looking options at Oase, so I am never that tempted with her anyway.)

Actually real Italian girls are not all that common in FKKs. Sure they do exist and one does encounter ones from time to time, but they are fairly rare of late and proper Italian girls have a pretty distinct Italian accent when speaking English and/or German, an accent that both these afore-mentioned girls lack.

As for giving the old Palace-bashing a rest: Amen, Radler! It's like a broken record...LoL. It's amazing how some guys, in the midst of writing some kind of report about Oase or World or GT or wherever, just can't resist taking a swipe at Palace. I think it shows some kind of deep seated hostility that they just need to get rid of and are probably not even properly aware of...

I love all the clubs and am aware of all clubs' positives and shortcommings. I always visit all the three clubs in Hessen and then gravitate towards the one(s) that happen to draw me during that particular time of year. For me those who find too many sharks eating up their mongering bankroll at Palace are simply like guys who get thrown off a particularly frisky bucking bronco. Guys who find "90%" girls at Palace offering bad service, etc: that says to me that these guys just can't ski the black-diamond pistes with moguls. By all means, like HB says: Please don't visit Palace and leave those girls for those of us that thrive on the place...

Yes, let's give it all a rest now, or at least steer the discussion in this section back to where it belongs. back to Oase...

Ortos

Agreed, no more Palace bashing. :-)

Actually girls are told by the club management not to say they are from Romania because there are so many Romanian girls. That's why they "come" from Italy, Hungary, Moldavia, Spain.

Steffani at Palace is really Italian, and about 3 years ago there was another Italian girl, but I never saw her again. I don't care where they come from as long as I have fun with them.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Agreed, no more Palace bashing. :-)

Actually girls are told by the club management not to say they are from Romania because there are so many Romanian girls. That's why they "come" from Italy, Hungary, Moldavia, Spain.

Steffani at Palace is really Italian, and about 3 years ago there was another Italian girl, but I never saw her again. I don't care where they come from as long as I have fun with them.

HB[/QUOTE] Sofia at World is Italian. There was this girl at Atlantis that then was at Palace for quite a while called Biene (rose tatoo on ass if I remember right). I was always under the impression that she was Italian, but she might have been Romanian.

I really do not care either where they are from. I have never been able to categorise the quality of session with nationality (and my sample size is both big enough and representative of the population for the inference prediction to make a regression analysis :-). I have though noticed through the years that the average age of Romanian providors is usually lower than f.ex. SA, German or even Polish girls which explains a more juvenile behaviour at times (which I actually kind of like since it they can be a lot of fun if you are able to break into their group). Oops, the age things means that my independent variable has error...must use least squares next time :-O

Since this is the Oase thread so here is some Oase info: I actually had a pretty good session with Louisa some months ago.

Correct, Bine does has some Italian blood in her. As far as I know she was born or at least grew up in Germany, so I would refer to her as German though she does visit her grandparents in Sicily from time to time.

HB