I was curious about the term "simple". I mostly see it in very short personal descriptions. Is it a euphemism for something else?
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I was curious about the term "simple". I mostly see it in very short personal descriptions. Is it a euphemism for something else?
Greg -- What a wonderful message. Kudos.
[QUOTE=Superman06]I was curious about the term "simple". I mostly see it in very short personal descriptions. Is it a euphemism for something else?[/QUOTE]
Simple is a VERY common self description for girls in the Phils. I just consulted the girl I am hanging out with and she says in the context of a girl it means she is a natural beauty who doesn't use makeup, go to expensive hair stylist or as she puts it - "puts medicine in her hair". A Simple girl can ride around in a jeepney not call a taxi and doesn't need to stay in a flash hotel. It doesnt have the "simple minded" connotations we have in the west. A simple girl does not have academic or social pretensions.
[QUOTE=Superman06]I was curious about the term "simple". I mostly see it in very short personal descriptions. Is it a euphemism for something else?[/QUOTE]
When reading Filipina profiles treat simple = modest
Westerners see simple = simpleton. But it is wrong to take that meaning in the Phils.
Filipinas sometimes say they are simple but this means a simple modest lifestyle. It often is a signal that she is from a poor family without many of the necessities and luxuries we take for granted in the western world.
KongKing
Thought I would give further feedback on the "simple" thing. My Filipina friend seems to divide girls into 3 camps Simple, social and dirty.
The "social" girl is the type of girl who hangs around in Resto-bars, eats at Jollybees or pizza, wears sunglasses, spends alot of time fixing her hair and manicuring her nails. Unless she is from a good family or (exceptionally if she is young) has a good job she needs to finance this lifestyle through men. Ideally someone who will "sponsor" her, ie someone who is foolish enough to send her money to "pay for her education" blah blah, or from a long term boy friend or from short term stuff. In many cases these girls are college girls and can be great fun if they arent too fixated on the social climbing.
The "simple" girl is more likely to eat vegetables ant a cheap local restaurant and a trip to Jollybees is regarded as something of a treat. By and large these girls are more interested in longer term relationships, though can be talked into something shorter term in some cases.
The "dirty" girls are the ones wandering around looking for business. The poorer ones are literally rather dirty, some of them can probably be taken for 200-300P. Personally i would steer clear of this type.
[QUOTE=GregLondon]Thought I would give further feedback on the "simple" thing. My Filipina friend seems to divide girls into 3 camps Simple, social and dirty.
The "social" girl is the type of girl who hangs around in Resto-bars, eats at Jollybees or pizza, wears sunglasses, spends alot of time fixing her hair and manicuring her nails. Unless she is from a good family or (exceptionally if she is young) has a good job she needs to finance this lifestyle through men. Ideally someone who will "sponsor" her, ie someone who is foolish enough to send her money to "pay for her education" blah blah, or from a long term boy friend or from short term stuff. In many cases these girls are college girls and can be great fun if they arent too fixated on the social climbing.
The "simple" girl is more likely to eat vegetables ant a cheap local restaurant and a trip to Jollybees is regarded as something of a treat. By and large these girls are more interested in longer term relationships, though can be talked into something shorter term in some cases.
The "dirty" girls are the ones wandering around looking for business. The poorer ones are literally rather dirty, some of them can probably be taken for 200-300P. Personally i would steer clear of this type.[/QUOTE]
Just spent 10 days with a manila girl I found on Date In Asia. First time around 3 days and a week in Angeles without her and a week with her again in Manila. Why?
To start with i did not expect much. She was a average young girl with a child. Said she had a job but probably turned out to be a lie. Said she lives in house owned by her parents and lives alone but when I showed interest in seeing the place she did not want to take me. Was constantly getting texts from god knows who.
Good points with her is she is a certified nymphette and was always ready for sex whenever. All I needed was good sex from her and she did not dissappoint me. Cost wise all I gave her was 5000 pesos she said she needed to buy things. For 7 days of unlimited sex it was worth it. Foodwise she was quite happy with jollibee although I did take her to few good restaurents.
Bad points are I do not know her background, Her means of support without a job, There was no regular conversation which is interesting. These things did bother me because other than sex there was no common attraction.
It is possible she did not care because she knows I will not be her BF or means of support.
I consider her a good , lonely girl wanting to meet foreigners and she did say I was her first foreigner. Overall it was a good experience compared to bargirls.
Ok, the girl needs her next bf to buy her a hairbrush, but this little lady stands out as a Cutie of the Year contender
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=24f93e28-416c-466b-9846-60d8bea3a178[/url] cutie vangie from makati
How should one proceed to pick the girls he wants to talk to on DIA.
I'm a DIA virgin, never met a girl from there.
Point is, the few girls I spoke with told me they want to meet anything but a sex tourist.
Humm this is not good.
There are two things which seems tricky to introduce when discussing with the ladies before meeting them.
The idea that you are here for a good time, that you'll respect her, treat her nicely as a real GF but can't promise or commit to anything.
And the idea you are willing to compensate her for the time spent with you.
Not sure how to pick girls, and proceed with prelinimary talks.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=42860f57-e5bf-483d-a613-f25d3ec9e8e3[/url]
Isla Heart from Manila
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Ok, the girl needs her next bf to buy her a hairbrush, but this little lady stands out as a Cutie of the Year contender
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=24f93e28-416c-466b-9846-60d8bea3a178[/url] cutie vangie from makati[/QUOTE]
And I'm sure her messages just went through the roof ;)
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]How should one proceed to pick the girls he wants to talk to on DIA.
I'm a DIA virgin, never met a girl from there.
Point is, the few girls I spoke with told me they want to meet anything but a sex tourist.
Humm this is not good.
There are two things which seems tricky to introduce when discussing with the ladies before meeting them.
The idea that you are here for a good time, that you'll respect her, treat her nicely as a real GF but can't promise or commit to anything.
And the idea you are willing to compensate her for the time spent with you.
Not sure how to pick girls, and proceed with prelinimary talks.[/QUOTE]
1 Write a profile being frank about what you are looking for but not being crude.
2 Decide where in phils you want to go and concentrate on girls in that town or max an hour or two away. Dont plan on meeting 10 different girls in different cities and spend all your time flying around.
3 Write an intro message and put it in notepad then copy and paste. Key points - ethnicity if you are a white guy mention it most of the girls just delete any messages from Philipinos, Arabs, Pakistanis etc The firmer you can be on planned trip where you will go and what dates the better as many guys are just day dreaming about going to the phils or thinking about going there "sometime next year" Say something like im looking for an open minded, passionate girl aged 18-25, without a baby, willing to stay with me overnight (if wanted ) at my hotel. Ask for her YM (yahoo messenger ID and cell no. Finish of with something along the lines of Sorry for such a frank message, but I dont want to waste your time if you are looking for something different. I am looking for a real girl, not a shemale/ladyboy (unless you are of course). You prob dont have to mention anythinmg about money at this stage, with such a message girls willassume they are can expect to be compensated.
4 you used to be able to copy and paste the same message to many girls, DIA have now stoped this so you may need a introductory hi / im coming to phils soon etc and then follow up respondees with your cut and paste message
5 Do a search according to age and location, send an intro message to anyone you fancy. I tend to avoid obvious model photos and clear ladyboys. Dont pay much attention to whether the girls are supposedly looking for a Mr right or serious relationship etc they will all put that as its their main aim but many will be up for short term fun in any case.
If you are targeted open minded cities such as Manila, Cebu or Angeles you will prob get a 50% response, maybe 25% in the provinces.
6 Once you have the girls YM just add thenm and nexttime you are online have a quick chat to establish whether she understand s what you want where exactly she lives etc etc. Establish some sort of methodology for nameing the girls in YM using the nick name function of u will end up with 4 cuteie roses and not know who is who
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Hmmmmmm I would be going VERY cautiously with this one. My antennae tell me that she is setting you up for something but as you say, time will tell.
To repeat, if ever you decide to meet her and her friend in person, do so in a public place (like a mall coffee shop) and have a VERY thorough interview/discussion with them both. Watch out for the body language between them. It seems funny how she progressed from giving you heaps for contacting Pinays to sharing such intimacies with you.
You also, of course, might have hit the jackpot, but be careful until you find out.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of an Indonesian girl I meet on DIA. She had just been deceived by her best friend and the belgian bf she had been talking to for a while. I talked to her on cam and she started crying. After about an hour of crying she wiped the tears away and gave me a nice dance with the music on. Clothes on and all.
And it continued like that.
It was like taken out of a manual of how to create rapport and even a relationship FAST. Relationships build through common experiences and bad experiences with a common other 'villain' works well. She ran through most of the steps on a couple of hours.
Just be careful mate.
[QUOTE=GregLondon]. Say something like I'm looking for an open minded, passionate girl aged 18-25, without a baby, willing to stay with me overnight (if wanted) at my hotel. Ask for her YM (yahoo messenger ID and cell no. Finish of with something along the lines of Sorry for such a frank message, but I don't want to waste your time if you are looking for something different. I am looking for a real girl, not a shemale/ladyboy (unless you are of course)..[/QUOTE]Excellent post Greg.
Just a couple of general points in response:
(1) I put up a relatively frank note like you suggested and someone must have read it and complained about it (reported me!). Next thing I know I was temporarily suspended and asked to modify my message so I guess this is always a risk
(2) The small-scale research project reported here that used 2 IDs is not permitted by DIA if you use the same computer with the same IP number. The system will block you from having 2 IDs and they will warn you that you will be banned.
You need to use a different computer (my experience anyway. Maybe there is a way around it?)
I totally agree with ALL of your suggestions. My experience is the same.
You already have some good advice from GL. A system to keep track of them all is one of the hardest things. I used to download the pic but I think DIA has started to block that. There is software that will do a "print screen".
Online -- At some point I say "friends" or "friends first". I don't spend a lot of time chatting back and forth. After a few exchanges I ask for email and phone (as GL suggested).
I usually don't hint at an overnighter. In fact, a lot of my online successes were in the afternoon after lunch and then the gal went home in the evening. If the gal lives with her family she might have to make some special arrangements in order to stay overnight.
When I'm finally in country they might say, "oh, you forgot me." My reply is that, "no, I just was very busy finishing my work so that my boss would let me travel!"
Later when I start some light touch testing, they'll say, "oh, I thought you said friends?". I might respond with a sly smile and say, "yes", and then move away from her. Or I might say, "but I like you --- a little." Most Filipinas respond well to some kidding or teasing. Be warned though -- they can dish it out pretty well too.
I guess there is a different strategy for everyone on this list, so you have to work out what is easy for you and what fits your personality.
Oh, and remember -- you are NOT a sex tourist. You are going to the Philippines to enjoy the culture, the beach, the warm weather...and of course you want to meet some of the local people.
Have fun, X
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]How should one proceed to pick the girls he wants to talk to on DIA.
I'm a DIA virgin, never met a girl from there.
Point is, the few girls I spoke with told me they want to meet anything but a sex tourist.
Humm this is not good.
There are two things which seems tricky to introduce when discussing with the ladies before meeting them.
The idea that you are here for a good time, that you'll respect her, treat her nicely as a real GF but can't promise or commit to anything.
And the idea you are willing to compensate her for the time spent with you.
Not sure how to pick girls, and proceed with prelinimary talks.[/QUOTE]
Last trip of mine I was in Manila for pleasure only and used DiA to target ladies.
Four of the ladies I met was to begin with rather shy was up for friendship, as in having coffee or lunch. They all lived with their families and ALL said that their mother/father was strict with them and that they had a curfew to obey.
After some chatting on YM they were all interested to meet and have sex, and 3 of them claimed to never have been with a foreigner and excited about it.
So - we met in Harrison Mall and Mall of Asia about 10-11AM and took a taxi back to my hotel where they stayed until about 7pm.
The evenings I was not too exhausted, I went out to party with some local friends, but back early so I could meet the next friend the next morning. And - surprisingly, all but one met up at agreed time. The one that was late, was due to heavy rain.
So - essense of my experience is that ladies may not be willing to stay with you overnight, but willing to meet and fcuk during daytime.
[QUOTE=GregLondon] ...willing to stay with me overnight (if wanted ) at my hotel... [/QUOTE]