Phnom Penh

don't believe too much about what is written here, like this board member who claims to live oppostite the walkabout. well, i myself was in there last friday having my shot at the 11.500 dollar joker jackpot, but the winning ticket did not turn the joker, so now friday even more to win, now to the point, the wa was packed with people 12 rows thick outsite into the street, what a bullshit to say there where only a handful of people.

actually yesterday afternoon time it was full also when i passed there. i'm not advertising the wa as i don't like the place, last friday was the first time in two and a half years i was inside, but will go again friday for the jackpot. never saw **** girls in that place. concerining ngo who want to trap you, keep your fingers off minors and nothing will happen to you in cambo, however, as of the italian who was with the 15 year old. well, it up to you, aint it?

Going to be in Phnom Pehn in a few fays with a friend. My friend booked a room at our favorite place to stay, Flamingo's a long time ago. I tried to book a room and they said they are fully booked. I stayed at Cara hotel a couple years ago, but it seemed far from the area I like around Flamingos. Also the room price climbed a lot in the last couple years.

I just asked Walkabout hotel, which seems like maybe not a nice place to stay, so I have to wait for them to reply.

Any other GF hotels nearby for $40 or less?

[QUOTE=Gagoo]Going to be in Phnom Pehn in a few fays with a friend. My friend booked a room at our favorite place to stay, Flamingo's a long time ago. I tried to book a room and they said they are fully booked. I stayed at Cara hotel a couple years ago, but it seemed far from the area I like around Flamingos. Also the room price climbed a lot in the last couple years.

I just asked Walkabout hotel, which seems like maybe not a nice place to stay, so I have to wait for them to reply.

Any other GF hotels nearby for $40 or less?[/QUOTE]If your budget allows it don't stay at the Walkabout, I recently took two girls there, and used a room in the hotel. Ok but to stay there no thanks, this is not saying the Walkabout is unacceptable its just that for a few dollars more you can do better, I stayed at the Thornbury, not on the waterfront but only a short tuk tuk ride away, also it has a massage area inside the hotel, the women were ok. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Gagoo]I just asked Walkabout hotel, which seems like maybe not a nice place to stay, so I have to wait for them to reply.[/QUOTE]Personal preference, but I find Flamingo a bit sterile and westernised. Walkabout is much better than it looks on first impressions when you walk in. The rooms on the top floor are quite beautiful and have a little balcony area where you can get some fresh air or watch the world go by below.

[QUOTE=Gagoo]Going to be in Phnom Pehn in a few fays with a friend. My friend booked a room at our favorite place to stay, Flamingo's a long time ago. I tried to book a room and they said they are fully booked. I stayed at Cara hotel a couple years ago, but it seemed far from the area I like around Flamingos. Also the room price climbed a lot in the last couple years.

I just asked Walkabout hotel, which seems like maybe not a nice place to stay, so I have to wait for them to reply.

Any other GF hotels nearby for $40 or less?[/QUOTE]I just got back from a couple nights/days in PP. I stayed at Flamingo's. Nice hotel for what it is but the rooftop was open the bar was not. My next stay I'll probably end up at Walkabout. I stopped in there for great food every day.

[QUOTE=Roguesta]Last week, a Frenchman was found with a 15 year old girl at a guesthouse. The same NGO was allowed to talk to her. She told them that she was working out of Walkabout. I live across the street from Walkabout, and know many people who go there regularly. I've never seen anyone there that I thought could possibly be 15 years old. I guess it is possible, but I doubt it..[/QUOTE]Been to Walkabout many many times on my PP visits and I find just the opposite to be true. Too many old hags working their trade there.

And for those in fear of entrapment, just stick to the bars and places mentioned on this board and you should be ok. Stay away from the "shady touts"

PT

walkabout check id on the door for anyone working in there. it doesn't sound like it could happen. if in doubt, ask one of the staff to double-check the id and verify that the woman is over 18. i wouldn't class walkabout as shady, even though i wouldn't eat there. being so open, they know they have to stick to the rules. i certainly wouldn't suggest staying there if it wasn't clearly on the up and up.

personally i wish every club had the sort of security and routine id checks that walkabout does. i don't like the slightest doubt. and although they've cleaned up quite a lot, i think the doubt or reputation that hangs over cambodia sometimes actually puts off decent regular punters.

remember a lot of the ngos (not all) are simply anti-sex and anti-prostitution. much of the purge has done more harm than good, with working women not daring to carry condoms in case they get accused, detained, beaten up and raped: by police. the clean-up-but-don't-encourage-condoms was part of the massive strings-attached gift aid that the bush government gave cambodia. cambodia has, in fact, been a slush pit of badly conceived, badly applied, aid for years, much of which has had disastrous effects. many ngos mean well biut don't have a clue. the financial incentives are not readily conducive to justice or the good of the cambodian people or their children. just be meticulous about your own behaviour. try to set a better moral example. it's not impossible.

I stayed at the Walkabout 18 months ago. For me it was a disaster. They placed me in a room on the floor above the first floor bar so it was noisy all night long. You would think that they would do the decent thing for the residents and close the bar at 2am or so like in Thailand so that people could get some sleep, but no.

Also the aircon didn't work, and the bath drain smelt like a sewer. To make matters worse I ate dinner there as well and ended up with some sort of bacterial food poisoning (vomiting later at night). I just had to move out as the place was literally killing me. I ended up finding a great quiet place for $8usd in another area.

For me Walkabout hotel = never again. Though YMMV.

[QUOTE=Franga]I stayed at the Walkabout 18 months ago. For me it was a disaster. They placed me in a room on the floor above the first floor bar so it was noisy all night long. You would think that they would do the decent thing for the residents and close the bar at 2am or so like in Thailand so that people could get some sleep, but no.

Also the aircon didn't work, and the bath drain smelt like a sewer. To make matters worse I ate dinner there as well and ended up with some sort of bacterial food poisoning (vomiting later at night). I just had to move out as the place was literally killing me. I ended up finding a great quiet place for $8usd in another area.

For me Walkabout hotel = never again. Though YMMV.[/QUOTE]The walkabout has always been opened 24 hours a day, i must admit ive never booked a room there or eaten there because it looks dirty.

[QUOTE=Geraldofrancisco]Geraldo Francisco reporting. Been to Cambodia several times. Forget Poi Pet with all the beggers. PP is the place to go.

The first time was a visa run from Thailand in 2003. Just a week to escape Songkran in the big mango.

My motordriver took me to some dump with about 20 girls from age 15 to 22. Just to be safe I took the Khmer girl who was 22. For two nights we fucked and made use of the tub. Then I got bored.

I went to Sharkey's bar on Street 130. Lord, there were fifty girls in there! I started out with a 21 year old, then a 19 year old, then a Vietnamese girl of 24. The best was a mamasan selling her two nieces ages 12 and 14. I left them to an English "gentlemen" who liked little girls. I took the mamasan, age 27-37, Nam Thi Me. She was the best of the bunch.

After Nam, I got an 18 year old that I wanted to adopt. But the trip was over.

The next time I visited PP, I was on my way back to Thailand with a little rest stop. Things had changed. No more motorcycle; everyone had a tuk-tuk or a car. But the number of bars had blossomed.

I stayed in a hotel on Street 130 near the central market. From there it was easy to get to Sharkey's and plenty of girls. But they were a little more picky. So I started visiting other bars. The Wine Bar had a number of decent girls and the first night I took home two Vietnamese. We had a great time eating, drinking, shopping and fucking ourselves silly. All for less than $150.

It's too bad it all came to an end. I finally got kicked out of the country at the request of the U.S. Embassy. A long story but at least I'm not in their jail nor ours. I love that place!

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thanks for the help, i actually got both hotels to reserve me a room now.

i stayed at flamingos twice before and my friend has a room there, so i am going with flamingos again. didn't have any noise in the room and had wifi in my room. this year it seems like ngo's are the latest worries. i don't fancy **** girls, so i'm not going to worry about it. if anything, i could just tell the girl to meet me in my hotel later. prostitution is legal in some parts of the us, canada and australia, so i don't see any big international crime going on with consenting adults doing their thing.

I've only eaten there once - as per the previous poster, I can't recommend it. However the beer is cheap and the atmosphere laid back. It's a fairly relaxing place to hang out 24/7. Security seems pretty good. You have to be picky with the rooms as they vary enormously. (Why would they give you the best one if you just accept what they give you?) Always ask to see a room before you pay - it goes for almost anywhere if you get the chance, unless you feel a psychological need to book ahead. The first room they showed me was awful. The second one quite acceptable. (And it's cheap). I didn't find out about the luxury rooms on the rooftop till I had explored thoroughly. The worst bit about walkabout was maybe the attitude of some of the gringos. They varied from (what I'd call) normal, to completely green, to looking like a leftover from the Vietnam-US war (as if they'd just gone awol and lived in walkabout ever since).

For something more upmarket, go a block and a half towards the river and you'll find an exquisite French owned, French run place with very good food, a bar that sparkles like you can see your face reflected in the polished glass, and staff and owners that have a real sense of class (in the good sense). If you speak good French you will probably become friends for life. But you do have to cross the main road.

Nearer walkabout there's a cheap-as-catnip place almost opposite which is Vietnamese run. Many of the rooms are very spacious, quite awesome value for money. Downside is if the owner couple have a domestic that leaves a bit of an atmosphere.

The Flamingo sucks IMHO but that is mostly cos it's not to my taste. Rooms I looked at were tiny, cramped and soulless. The whole place is like a bit of a cheap army camp hotel, trying to be a bit upmarket and failing miserably to spend enough money. But there again it is maybe the closest thing you'll find to a westernised (American-friendly) hotel in the area at a cheap price. You can recognise the things you'd look for back home at a cheap backstreet hotel which just about ticks the boxes (and quite ostentatiously so).

There's many in the area. No harm in shopping around. There's also many good places to eat. No now need to eat typhoid trap meals.

I think anyone knows that Phnom Penh is not exactly for beginners. You have to grasp the local realities quickly but also have a strong sense of who you are, how to be civilised and decent in a country that lacks civilisation (in terms of the person you are - not in the sense of demanding hot water and western efficiency). But you are not as invisible as it might at first seem. So do please show the world - fellow ISGs, NGOs, and the long-suffering Cambodians, that you have certain standards. We might be mongers, but by playing fair we can earn everyone's respect. There's a lot of good decent people in the country. I think like attracts like.

[QUOTE=Franga]I stayed at the Walkabout 18 months ago. For me it was a disaster. They placed me in a room on the floor above the first floor bar so it was noisy all night long. You would think that they would do the decent thing for the residents and close the bar at 2am or so like in Thailand so that people could get some sleep, but no.

Also the aircon didn't work, and the bath drain smelt like a sewer. To make matters worse I ate dinner there as well and ended up with some sort of bacterial food poisoning (vomiting later at night). I just had to move out as the place was literally killing me. I ended up finding a great quiet place for $8usd in another area.

For me Walkabout hotel = never again. Though YMMV.[/QUOTE]Franga,

I think they both suck badly need to remodel this 2 hotel, but I agree for mongering is a good locations, walkabout is for the lazy that don't want to venture out and mostly dog at the bar.

Hotel here is cheap I like the new york hotel and I also like to stay at the river front area with nice view and many bar with good pick up, many new hotel is opening up and you can get room for 30 USD why stay at a dump.

Fast Eddie 48

There's no confusion. Like I said before, I know the person in question. We had a long conversation about two years ago. I believe you when you say that now he's on remand at Prey Sar. But please believe me, too, when I say that I saw him two weeks after he was arrested on two occasions.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Franga,

I think they both suck badly need to remodel this 2 hotel, but I agree for mongering is a good locations, walkabout is for the lazy that don't want to venture out and mostly dog at the bar.

Hotel here is cheap I like the new york hotel and I also like to stay at the river front area with nice view and many bar with good pick up, many new hotel is opening up and you can get room for 30 USD why stay at a dump.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I'm not a big fan of either Walkabout (the bar) or Heart of Darkness, so for me it's not any advantage staying in that area. The other little bars around there also don't grab me much. So actually, much better would be to stay near where there's good food, and again I don't think the Walkabout area is very good for food. So it seems like the riverfront or close to it (a short walk) is probably best. Used to stay at Dara Reang Sey back when I was watching my funds. Something like that but a tad more upscale would be good. Being able to walk outside and have lots of different restaurants to choose from would be good too. But staying at FLamingo, every time I get hungry I feel like I need to go to the other side of town if I wanna get something decent to eat. One look at the rooms at Walkabout was enough to scare me off of ever staying there.