Pattaya Reports

I definitely enjoy Shower for 2 as well. I always ask if the girl doesn't ask first. I have found a few who refuse due to shyness at the beginning of the night. However, many will shower after sex and all on the second visit.

I get there (wanting to go in dammit) and the police and cameramen are there in full force. A tourist comes out 10 minutes later with his Thai girl. He said it's all good. The place is all dark now and closed.

I go down the road to Sexy Girls A Go Go and they tell me not to smoke inside because they are next to be raided. After 1 hour you can smoke, they say!

Free2, thank you for the news. Other than Shooters on Soi 7 I don't frequent the Soi 7 and BR gogo bars. If you frequent them I would really appreciate a quick write up on how they are. Pretty girls, BF prices, etc. I don't recall seeing reviews of them (I did not search).

If anyone else can chime in that would be great. Any update on the Soi 13, 13/1, 13/2 gogo bars would be appreciated too.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2000175]I always do ST first to establish the relationship and to make sure I want a LT with a particular girl. After all LT can always be added to the program later if both sides want it[/QUOTE]I concur. I'm also in agreement with you on playful showers. But I also do a quick assessment of her fun parts in a better light. Reason for this: I was repeating with a babe I had met on a previous trip. She preferred to shower alone. In the dimly lit bedroom, as I was about to DATY, I see something that was not suppose to be there, near her taint, an STD, some sorta fungus looking thing. (I Still have no idea what it was.) That immediately but a stop to the festivities. She told me she had it for about a week, and was afraid to go to the doctor and tell the bar. At my urging, she went the next day, and was benched by the doctor for a month. She's no longer in the Game, BTW.

For those wondering what a Taint is: Taint pussy, Taint asshole, (American slang for It aint.).

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2000536]she went the next day, and was benched by the doctor for a month. She's no longer in the Game, BTW..[/QUOTE]IMHO, you know, both parties should get benched and get similar meds! LOL.

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Anyway, in itself it is not a capital crime if a girl wants to shower separately. I am just a little let down that's all.[/QUOTE]I am always disappointed when a girl wants to shower alone, but I don't let it bother me as much as I used to. I used to think if the girl would not shower with me she would be a bad lay, but after 4 trips to the LOS and dozens of girls, that theory has not proven to be true. Had great times with girls who would shower with me as well as though who didn't. Note that on Soi 6 the vast majority of girls will give you before and after showers. From BR and WS, maybe not quite half will.

I will be back in Pattaya early May and last year when I was there went to Kinnaree in Jomtien and had a great time nice girls and nice rooms. Tried to find Winchester club but someone said it had closed does anyone here know the current situation with Winchester club? I never been to bars in Naklua so any info on bars in that area would be great Seen a few bars dotted along main Naklua road but any side sois with concentration of bars? I heard a while back in reports here about Drum and Monkey is this still going and where exactly is it?? Any help from fellow mongers greatly appreciated and if you there from May 19 be great to meet for a few beers and bar crawls thank.

Had a hard time getting a baht bus from LK metro down to ws last night. Was talking to a regular who was also waiting and he said that the baht buses will no longer be allowed on soi bukeau. Guess they are allowing them one final week. After that it's either walk down to second or motorbike.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2000711]Had a hard time getting a baht bus from LK metro down to ws last night. Was talking to a regular who was also waiting and he said that the baht buses will no longer be allowed on soi bukeau. Guess they are allowing them one final week. After that it's either walk down to second or motorbike.[/QUOTE] February 1, 2017 was D day. Aren't they running on 3rd Road to Bali Hai pier (ie. WS)?

I posted the new routes in the General Reports thread the other day.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2000717]February 1, 2017 was D day. Aren't they running on 3rd Road to Bali Hai pier (ie. WS)?

I posted the new routes in the General Reports thread the other day.[/QUOTE]Looks like major changes to the baht bus system. Banana Boi's post about new routes raised some interesting questions. It seemed like they have designated places to stop and pick up passengers now. It sounded as if we can't flag the buses down like we used to. That doesn't seem possible. I'm hoping someone on the ground will keep us informed. I can't wait to get there in late July.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2000175] 3 points off and I will never barfine a girl again. .[/QUOTE]I too like the tangible aspects of this system. I have certainly bailed before without thinking of it in this way. Your post stuck with me though and I was laughing to myself last night as the "points" were ringing up like someone was playing pinball! I was repeating with one who had caught my eye mostly because of the way that she carried herself. Good eye contact, good conversation, physically attractive at 43. (I'm old). We had one session and it was ok. I enjoyed her but she had some limits. I thought these might be temporary and we parted on very good terms "until next time". So last night was "next time". We planned dinner first then out for awhile before going to my room. At dinner she says she has to return to the bar until 10 - boss's rules as he cut a bunch of staff to save on overhead. At dinner somehow what before was good conversation now was all about her and one sided. Point one. She said that she had not been to this restaurant before even though it is 2 minutes from her bar. But without seeing the menu she knew what the special was. And all the other details about sides etc. This was a Mexican restaurant and "she never eat that before". Why lie? I dunno but with it being so obvious it felt like point 2. Then she whips out her phone and shows me the empty hulk of an unfinished farang mansion up in rice land, saying "mamee satang". As if I'm the new bank. The real clincher was back at the bar where her boss checked that she was on time to finish out at 10 (wtf? Here we are, I'd paid the barfine to take her to dinner, we get drinks in front of us and she zooms over to the pool table where 3 young studs are playing and inserts herself into their fun. Without a word to me about it. I watch this for awhile and it is as if I am not even in the room. I pay the bill to head out and she wants to know what the problem is. What followed was typical convoluted bullshit with the theme being I was making her choices for her. What? Anyway, game over. I don't know what became of the woman who made such a good first impression.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2000460]Unless her name is One as in the number. I know a few of those. Second girlfriend here was One as a matter of fact.[/QUOTE]In that case her name should be "Neung" a common Thai name meaning No. 1.

Are you saying her name sounded like One and she spelled it this English way? Obviously I am surprised and never encountered that, since the English spelling is rather crazy and would be difficult to convert into a Thai script as anything other than the Thai equivalent of "Wan". The thing is Thai words are pronounced as they are written and English words are not.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2000476]Anyway, in itself it is not a capital crime if a girl wants to shower separately. I am just a little let down that's all. A capital crime is bad breath, which I can usually detect before a barfine and so avoid, or worse yet, smelly pussy or too large pussy, or really bad attitude. Fortunately, smelly pussy is very rare in Thailand. I can't even recall it happening to me here. But I have encountered smelly pussy in the PI and even Cambodia one time. It is rare, but it does occur. I can't do a girl with smelly pussy and I want them out of my bed as soon as possible. Sorry to end this post on a sour note. Pun intended.[/QUOTE]Fortunately bad breath and smelly pussy are rare in Thailand. However any girl can have bad breath jut after eating the wrong food, particularly with raw garlic or Plaa Raa (smelly fermented fish). Also girls can have pussy odour temporarily from a medical problem or just pissed and did not clean. Any girl with consistently bad breath or pussy, is a definite write off.

I did meet a beautiful girl in a soapy with a cavernous pussy, over 10 years ago. She had a child already and had lived in Switzerland for a while with a Farang. I could see why she would have no boyfriend any more, since I am not small but was flopping all over the place inside that cavern, with virtually zero pussy feel. Needed an operation to make the pussy smaller again. Normally I like somewhat loose pussy, but this one time was far too much.

Lots of girls are shy about showering together. No big deal really. They just feel it is private when they actually clean their special parts. They should realise however can shower together first, then girl can do some personal stuff after the guy has left the bathroom (or before he comes in if she prefers).

To begin with, thanks to at Syzgies, at Crazy4 Thais, at FL Hawk, at Java Man, at Banana Boi, at Natty Bumpo, at Wimble, at Amjeck and at Uncle V for your interesting insights and generally helpful advice.

I personally like a shower together, but I have seen some girls feel a bit shy and want to have it separately and I try not to push if that happens. I have generally seen that the performances or GFE attitude is not a direct fallout of their shower preferences.

Anyway, I owe you all an update since you have been so friendly and encouraging. Day 3 was better but let me start with Day 2.

On Day 2, I was a bit half heart about taking a girl back home but its not that I didn't try. I had a couple of beers in the evening and had a great oil massage in the afternoon.

Two somewhat strange things from Day 2, one particularly unsettling for me.

My Oil massage was from a plump old lady (late 40's) with whom I really didn't imagine having any sexual contact right from the outset. The massage was great but she did touch me here and there, sometimes accidentally and sometimes playfully. Normally, (and I have had a few hundred massages in my life in multiple countries) when the masseuse runs her fingers over your ass crack, its a sign that she will offer some 'special' service later on, but in Thailand covert hints are really unnecessary. This lady, did everything and even touched my dick multiple times as a part of 'its just business' process. I was really not keen on any HJ or BJ from her, let alone have sex and I was already thinking of how to dodge if she gets pushy. But in the end, she didn't even get there and finished her massage as professionally as any. Which left me wondering, why was she working me up at times? I put myself in her position and guess if I am an old masseur who gets to massage women, maybe I would do a bit of this and that too.

The other story is a little dampening. I have been coming to Thailand for over 15 yrs now and barring a few incidents here and there, Thailand has always been nice to me. But I went to Mandarin Ago-go bar on WS and the security guy stopped me and asked 'Where you come from?' Now I am from Singapore but I am Indian from every angle. I told him 'I am from Singapore' and he replied 'Oh sorry, but you look same same like India man'. While he moved aside and made way for me, I felt a bit weird and somewhat insulted and I told him 'yes, I am Indian from Singapore, why?

His look changed and he said 'Big boss say, no Indian man'. So I walked away as he called from behind 'Singapore okay' but I walked away. Now, in all these years, I have never been refused entry because of my race. Yes, I am sure I have been treated for that but it has never been as blatant as this case. Is this a common thing in Thailand now? The same night, I found another bar on Soi 15 Alley on WS (the alley of Sapphire) and this club is just after Mystis but on the left. The guy blocked my way and said 'Members only'.

Denied entry twice in one night! So I decided to take it as a divine symbol and went back to my hotel and watched a new episode of 'Black Sails'.

I do understand that in many parts of SE Asia, Indians have not been very well accepted and some of it is justified probably, but I have never encountered this kind of blatant racism in Thailand. Is this something I should be prepared for from now? And just to get it clear, I am always decently dressed and get along pretty well with locals (especially girls) and carry myself well, despite not being a looker by any means.

Last night walked beach road and took a MILF from one of the beer bars 400 BF 1000 for st at my hotel.

There was also younger girl and I might go there again tonight and look for her.

Also.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2000449]"Wan" is a reasonably common Thai name (sounds like One) but means something else. Can be just a short form of longer names containing "wan" as a syllable, like Maliwan as an example.[/QUOTE]You were right, I asked her today after our session at Kinnaree. It was a very good session BTW and I think I still have to repeat her. 600 BF and drinks, 1000 for her.