Jakarta

As I've written before, Tinder is more work than walking into Classic for a number of reasons. Its not for everyone especially if 365 K / hour is your budget.

I've been here in Jakarta for 7 days and have sessioned with 6 Tinder girls, three of which I've seen twice.

One of the Tinder Girls is a flight attendant. I'm taking her to Bali for a few days. Tickets for both of us on Expedia would have been $550. She offered to use her Indo travel app and we bought two tickets for $175.

In terms of paying for her time with me in Bali, her daily allowance is SUPER reasonable and that's because I've seen her twice. The first time she was not cheap. The second time I saw her for four hours and her "ask" was halved. And now I get to spend a few days with a 22-year old flight attendant and her micro-bikini in Bali. I call this "playing the long game. " It's not for everyone. Just sharing.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3042282]What is difficult to find about T5? You just have to take the lift. You don't even have to take the lift in the back of the lobby, the lifts in the front will bring you next to the counter where the door girl gives the wristband. The same goes for when you leave the place, you can wait for the lift next to the door girl too.

You can also repeat to the mamas that you don't want a girl once you're seated instead of ignoring them or moving to another table. Most westerners are having these kind of ignoring attitude whenever anyone comes over them (even with waitresses) and quite frankly, when you see it from afar, it looks very rude.

Then you've got the personnal opinion that the Chinese customers are less worthy than the westerners, did you discuss that matter with the girls? They do not seem to be repulsed by these guys, it looked like the complete opposite to me. Honestly, we, as westerners are more likely to be the bottom of the barrel than the Chinese guys.[/QUOTE]A couple of items.

1. You weren't there when the mamas sat at my table uninvited after I told them I wanted to sit alone and drink my beer.

2. I've never met you nor do I nor anyone else on this board need to hear you preach. Don't bother replying.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;3042388]As I've written before, Tinder is more work than walking into Classic for a number of reasons. Its not for everyone especially if 365 K / hour is your budget.

I've been here in Jakarta for 7 days and have sessioned with 6 Tinder girls, three of which I've seen twice.

One of the Tinder Girls is a flight attendant. I'm taking her to Bali for a few days. Tickets for both of us on Expedia would have been $550. She offered to use her Indo travel app and we bought two tickets for $175.

In terms of paying for her time with me in Bali, her daily allowance is SUPER reasonable and that's because I've seen her twice. The first time she was not cheap. The second time I saw her for four hours and her "ask" was halved. And now I get to spend a few days with a 22-year old flight attendant and her micro-bikini in Bali. I call this "playing the long game. " It's not for everyone. Just sharing.[/QUOTE]OS was just about falling asleep reading all that endless drivel about Classic but suddenly a real hunting story. Full points to you Mr Vendelo. There's a whole subculture about flight attendants. In Indonesia they are the premium simpenan (mistress), for Indonesians of means. In Japan, ANA and JAL hostess uniforms sell for a fortune to wealthy Japanese who dress their mistresses up in them. Why even one of our esteemed members here is under suspicion of taking a hostie uniform to our favourite rat hole and dressing a girl up. Won't name you Smoothy, as it is only a strong suspicion, but as relayed to OS by the girl. The Garuda hosties have to hand their uniforms in at the end of the shift before they go home and get in huge trouble if they don't. So bet she's not a Garuda girl and you won't be porking her in her uniform. But that's one of the positives about airline competition, more flight attendants, more uniforms.

Indonesians just see sex differently.

When OS first started frequenting Jakarta he was in awe of the sex available, one of OS employees had a brother who was a serving police officer. On several occasions the employee and his brother would collect OS's nominated facebook friends and deliver them to OS hotel, then wait patiently outside while OS had some Chonka Chonka before they would deliver the girl home again.

One time he came with his wife all dressed up in the kerudung and OS was thinking this was the girl before realizing it was a social visit and they had also brought the girl from their neighbourhood with them. We all had a friendly chat before they left, leaving behind the girl next door for OS to do some more Chonka Chonka with.

His wife was a horny *****, she was a little chubby and would be all dressed up in the best muslim dress and would never miss a chance to sidle up next to OS for a bit of touchy feely. She probably went straight home and started flicking the bean thinking about it all but it was a bit embarrassing when she was squeezing up against OS in front of her husband. But in hindsight it all helped OS do a reset of his good Presbyterian values as taught to him by his mother.

OS is starting to ramble now, like the million and one posters about Classic. So back to flight attendants and the commendable endeavours of Mr Vendelo. OS loves nothing more before travelling to Europe, than to go for a night of chemical debauchery in his favourite rat hole before turning up at CGK and settling comfortably with champagne into his business class seat and running his eye over those Emirates and Qatar flight attendants. Knowing exactly from fresh experience, what lies beneath that uniform and that she's probably just as horny naked as all of OS numerous lady companions of the preceding 8 hours.

Very liberating.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;3042388]As I've written before, Tinder is more work than walking into Classic for a number of reasons. Its not for everyone especially if 365 K / hour is your budget.

I've been here in Jakarta for 7 days and have sessioned with 6 Tinder girls, three of which I've seen twice.

One of the Tinder Girls is a flight attendant. I'm taking her to Bali for a few days. Tickets for both of us on Expedia would have been $550. She offered to use her Indo travel app and we bought two tickets for $175.

In terms of paying for her time with me in Bali, her daily allowance is SUPER reasonable and that's because I've seen her twice. The first time she was not cheap. The second time I saw her for four hours and her "ask" was halved. And now I get to spend a few days with a 22-year old flight attendant and her micro-bikini in Bali. I call this "playing the long game. " It's not for everyone. Just sharing.[/QUOTE]This is an interesting different way to spend your time in Indonesia (as well as any other mongering destination), ie. , a holiday girlfriend. If you two click, I can see many benefits. I do wonder if this can be done with a Classic girl we session with and happen to really like. Does anyone know if these girls are locked into contracts at Classic or Travel preventing them from going on a mini-holiday with you?

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;3042504]…So bet she's not a Garuda girl and you won't be porking her in her uniform. But that's one of the positives about airline competition, more flight attendants, more uniforms..[/QUOTE]Well thanks for taking the time to write about the sex subculture in Jakarta.

You are correct! She is not a Garuda flight attendant but works for another Indonesian airline. And on one occasion she offered to bring her uniform to my hotel. I declined and now I regret it. Perhaps next on her next visit!

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3042513]This is an interesting different way to spend your time in Indonesia (as well as any other mongering destination), ie. , a holiday girlfriend. If you two click, I can see many benefits. I do wonder if this can be done with a Classic girl we session with and happen to really like. Does anyone know if these girls are locked into contracts at Classic or Travel preventing them from going on a mini-holiday with you?[/QUOTE]I have taken a Classic girl as a holiday-GF for two days. The arrangement was directly with her, aka OB or Outside Booking. I plan on taking her for one week in the future. Paying her a daily rate times number of days.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3042513]This is an interesting different way to spend your time in Indonesia (as well as any other mongering destination), ie. , a holiday girlfriend. If you two click, I can see many benefits. I do wonder if this can be done with a Classic girl we session with and happen to really like. Does anyone know if these girls are locked into contracts at Classic or Travel preventing them from going on a mini-holiday with you?[/QUOTE]I can speak to this. I met a girl at classic that I really liked and developed a good relationship with. I personally prefer to develop relationships with women I find attractive and provide me good service in a way that I like (I like very specific things) and then continue to see them. I don't need a different pussy everyday, as long as the one I'm using is fantastic. In my case, she would basically stay at my hotel whenever I asked and would spend her own money to get to and from. I am always wary in these situations as I want to gauge if she likes me or if it's solely transactional. I have no issues with either as long as it's clear to me. At first I thought it was transactional, but she introduced me to her friends and we started to hang out and I came to understand by watching the other indonesian couples that the girl asking the guy for money is standard. So in my case she never asked for money when we had sex, but she would ask for money when we were out and about to buy things. This appears to be normal and a common relationship dynamic for a standard dating 'etiquette' if you will.

As for the Classic side. I am not sure if it changes for the different terminals or girls. But in my case she was required to work 18 days out of the month. They have to get there by a certain time where they turn in their phones. If they miss that they aren't allowed to work. If she doesn't meet the 18 days a month then she gets fined. I think it's 1 million rupiah fine, but I don't recall exactly. So if you build a good relationship with the girl and she likes you, she will skip work as that's what mine did. The next time I go back I will probably just pay the 1 million rupiah fine and whatever she makes for a month and just take her on vacation with me around Java.

If you had to ask me if the money I spent was worth it? I personally would say yes because Indonesia is cheap. So her asking for money turned out to be like okay, here's $20. Now if you only want sex, then probably not worth. It's hard to beat the classic voucher cost to bang and go. But if you enjoy the girl you are with and want a legit GFE then it's hard to beat the cost. As always YMMV.

[QUOTE=KimJongil;3042665]I can speak to this. I met a girl at classic that I really liked and developed a good relationship with. I personally prefer to develop relationships with women I find attractive and provide me good service in a way that I like (I like very specific things) and then continue to see them. I don't need a different pussy everyday, as long as the one I'm using is fantastic. In my case, she would basically stay at my hotel whenever I asked and would spend her own money to get to and from. I am always wary in these situations as I want to gauge if she likes me or if it's solely transactional. I have no issues with either as long as it's clear to me. At first I thought it was transactional, but she introduced me to her friends and we started to hang out and I came to understand by watching the other indonesian couples that the girl asking the guy for money is standard. So in my case she never asked for money when we had sex, but she would ask for money when we were out and about to buy things. This appears to be normal and a common relationship dynamic for a standard dating 'etiquette' if you will..[/QUOTE]Thanks for expanding the topic of taking a Classic girl as a holiday GF. I have also done this in Thailand twice.

It is an outstanding way to learn about Indo girls, food, language, sites to see, culture, etc. For example I learned quite a bit about Indo girls from one of my overnighters with a Tinder girl. I learned about their position age gaps, the desire to marry and have kids, university life, cost of living, etc.

Like I have written about this recently, I get how some guys just want to smash. Two of my friends are exactly like this. They don't care about architecture or local food. Just eat a burger or steak and go smash.

But if you want to dig into Indo culture, take a girl as a holiday GF. But remember, you can't wife a ho. Which reminds me, another benefit to a Tinder girl is she's not banging 3-5 guys a night.

Jakarta made me do 2 things for the first time in my mongering life. Repeat a girl, have a girl (the repeat one) overnight. And yes, it was Tinder.

Worked on passport mode for a week before I landed. I have done multiple trips to Jakarta pre covid and had seen (IMO) the better days of Malio, Travel and Classic. Went back to Classic and BATS to relive those days, BATS is a depressing place now!! Went to Classic on 3 nights, met one girl on T2 in the 3 outings. Enough has been written on Classic this is my summary. Club (T1) is a scam asking 600 K for average girls. T2 has the most choice and best girls at 365 K, asked a couple of mamasans for couple girls but they just tried to give me two girls that would not talk to each other. Not my idea of threesome. T5 has limited choice than T2 as I saw, but a couple of them were really stunners. But not my type. Actually the best "girl" for me in T5 was one of the mamasans, do not recall her name but she had limited choice of 5-8 girls in her team in the seating closest to entrance on the stage side. She has shoulder lngth open frizzy hair, mid to late 30's age maybe. And I also asked for Chaca mamasan with the security, servers, other mamasans but was told (strangely) on Sunday night that it was her day off. Read about Raisa here and wanted to see her.

Coming to Tinder. Girl 1 - works for one of the telecom companies. Came to my hotel (Four Seasons Sheraton Thamrin. They saw me walk in with all the 3 girls, I had booked room for 2, so it is bright green) around 2 pm on Friday afternoon from office saying she was on a site visit. Came in a proper black formal pants and blue shirt, ID card lanyard around her neck. She got a couple of office calls when she was with me, so I believe what she said is true. We had agreed for 1. 2 Mil for 2 shots. Went round 1, she spoke good English and nice convo, great BJ and DFK, and her moaning. Ordered food for her in room, and we started round 2 after some small talk. Same activities, and got me to blow my load in mish. Her Tinder pics were at least 5 years old, she is now a late 20's mom of a boy, but no visible baby damage or tummy flab. Would definitely repeat her if I come to Jakarta again.

Girl 2 - Nursing student from Tangerang, studying in Notrh Jakarta. 21 year old, curvy with a little tummy flab. Braces teeth which is a big turn off for me, also very limited English and we had to use Translate sometimes. We had agreed to 1 M for. 2 shots, but I packed her off after 1. What she lacked in DFK she made up in rimming. Really knows how to use the mouth and tongue down there, front and back. Big ass for doggy was also fun, also had her do reverse cowgirl so that I could see more of the ass than the braces. She really wanted to stay for the second shot but I was wanted to head out to Classic again. Met her between 9-10.30 pm on Sunday. If you can speak Bahasa, she is a good option, very bubbly cheerful girl who seemed to be the talkative type.

Girl 3 - Works in Lotte mall. I booked her Grab bike pickup from there after work on Monday evening when we met for the second time for overnight. Not photogenic, so seeing her on our dinner date on Saturday I was blown away!! 24 year old, ful lips, really my type of girl, decent English, can hold a convo on many subjects. After a 2 hour leisurely dinner we took a Grab to the hotel, and she was wild in bed!! We kissed for more time than doing anything else, she was so wet down and writhed in joy during sex. Bubble ass and shapely body with meat in the right places. We had agreed for 1 M for the entire 3-4 hour evening. Told her I want more of her and she was open to meet again.

Pinged on Sunday night after the depressing nursing student meet and told her to come overnight on Monday, she asked 2 M for it. TV and talk time, in room dinner, sex, sleep, shower, early breakfast, sex, shower, nap and she left for work. As I mentioned before, first time I repeated a girl, and had any girl overnight. While overnight seemed a bit of stretch given my age, it was checked off my things to do list with a memorable girl.

There were another 4-5 Tinder profiles I had lined up. Except for one who asked for 2 M and her pics in Tinder were photoshopped to cut 10 years of her age, the others were good options. I had less success on Bumble and was blocked on the last day there for indulging in "sexual favors. Seeking or giving", so better to stick to Tinder I guess. All in all, a great trip and memories.

On this topic of holiday GF, I got offers from guides in showaround willing to be guide during the day and GF at night. Post a trip there in advance, wait for offers, take the convo to Whatsapp, and ask them directly. They tell you if they do.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;3042691]Thanks for expanding the topic of taking a Classic girl as a holiday GF. I have also done this in Thailand twice.

It is an outstanding way to learn about Indo girls, food, language, sites to see, culture, etc. For example I learned quite a bit about Indo girls from one of my overnighters with a Tinder girl. I learned about their position age gaps, the desire to marry and have kids, university life, cost of living, etc.

Like I have written about this recently, I get how some guys just want to smash. Two of my friends are exactly like this. They don't care about architecture or local food. Just eat a burger or steak and go smash.

But if you want to dig into Indo culture, take a girl as a holiday GF. But remember, you can't wife a ho. Which reminds me, another benefit to a Tinder girl is she's not banging 3-5 guys a night.[/QUOTE]