Jakarta

[QUOTE=Vendelo;3042765]
Are you permanently banned on Bumble?[/QUOTE]It is linked to the email ID and phone device. I need to find another one and can get on it. I have been banned on these dating apps quite a few times, earlier I used to get physical tourist SIM in places I visited so it was easy to get another ID with new number and login. Moved to eSIM now, and its trickier on the same number. I get eSIM data only plans usually on travel.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3042805]You are correct. T2 and t5 are same. 365 K. And T1 was more. It hardly matters tho. The difference between $22 and $36 is nothing to most girl enthusiasts.

Fwiw I noticed girls at T1 more likely to have bigger tits if that is important.[/QUOTE]I would be more interested to hear if there were any differences with GFE among the girls from the different terminals especially the kissing.

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;3042811]Sorry, I could have been more clear.

Showaround is a website (like getyourguide) where you can post a trip and local guides reach out to engage. It is NOT in Tinder.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification. This sounds similar to renting a girlfriend in Tokyo, which I did in November 2025. It's platonic meeting where you go to lunch, dinner, beach, Disneyland, etc. There are nonsexual options such as holding hands! They're adamant about not making advancements, proposals, or asking for their contact info.

I'll have to check this Indo option you shared. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;3042597]I have taken a Classic girl as a holiday-GF for two days. The arrangement was directly with her, aka OB or Outside Booking. I plan on taking her for one week in the future. Paying her a daily rate times number of days.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing these interesting and unique experiences, they are a breath of fresh air among regular posts, kudos on your flight attendant experience.

I had a Classic girl accompany me on my last day in Jakarta earlier this year, she offered to give me company without any charges and stayed with me from 3 am till 8 am, we didn't bang, she helped me pack, we did some cuddling, kissing, dry humping etc, but didn't have sex (but this was my choice as we didn't agree for a price, my mind was pre-occupied with last minute packing and also I was grateful to her for giving me company), I gave her a good tip nonetheless, had late dinner and breakfast in my room.

This was the first time I invited anyone to my room, but I was smitten by her and wanted to be with her until my trip ended, usually someone else being in my room makes me a little conscious about my in room carefree habits and there is also the security aspect about the valuables and what not.

This experience gave birth to curiosity of having more experiences like this.

I am not much keen on the culture learning aspects, but I would like a trusted somebody who I find attractive and is in tune with my sexual tendencies to give me company for non sexual activities during the day, like have a go at swimming, go golfing with me etc, during day time and cuddle with me in bathtub after a day of exhausting activities with some wine and soft music.

Last time I had met 2 Classic girls who matched this criteria, one of them is mentioned above, she was in touch me for few months after the trip, but not responding anymore else she would have been my top pick. The other one who quoted a slightly higher price for whole night is still in touch, will approach her if I don't hit it off with anyone new.

I have planned an iteniary that will include this experience in my next month's trip, provided I find someone worthy this time also or able to connect with any or both girls from last time.

Come to think of it, this is like dating but in a reverse order (sex first followed by romance later hehe) and completely on our terms with the girl we like without all the pleasing and begging lol.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3042815]I would be more interested to hear if there were any differences with GFE among the girls from the different terminals especially the kissing.[/QUOTE]Whether you pay 365 k or 5 m, this will always depend on the girl and her preferences, which you won't find unless you committ to the price and are in the room unless you are hunting in Europe where they publish each service separately on the girl's webpage. In Jakarta though I had went about this the asking before making decision way and it worked in most cases but in some girls did it merely as a formality (like a lip kiss touch and disconnect). It felt a little cheap / cut and dry to ask this however another way to look at this is also asking what your money is buying before you say yes.

On a related note of experiences, I am a solo traveler late 40's, salt and pepper hair, medium build with no visible flab. However I am from India, which is not the most popular ethnicity as a monger. I dress well and smell good, but there were at least 3-4 girls in Classic that refused to meet me when lasered by the mamasan. I had no issues with it since I also refused to take a few girls the mama bought over. Again a stereotype I guess that Indians like more chubbier girls. However once the girl came over (T2, only experience) and we shared a beer and I got her cigs, we hit off well.

I know there are quite a few Indian readers here, so might help them to be ready for rejection sometimes. LOL.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3042815]I would be more interested to hear if there were any differences with GFE among the girls from the different terminals especially the kissing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;3042889]On a related note of experiences, I am a solo traveler late 40's, salt and pepper hair, medium build with no visible flab. However I am from India, which is not the most popular ethnicity as a monger. I dress well and smell good, but there were at least 3-4 girls in Classic that refused to meet me when lasered by the mamasan. I had no issues with it since I also refused to take a few girls the mama bought over. Again a stereotype I guess that Indians like more chubbier girls. However once the girl came over (T2, only experience) and we shared a beer and I got her cigs, we hit off well.

I know there are quite a few Indian readers here, so might help them to be ready for rejection sometimes. LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm white European. I'd rate my rejection rate at Classic 20%, which is quite good compared to eg Soi 6 Pattaya where my rejection rate now stands between 80 and 95%.

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;3042889]On a related note of experiences, I am a solo traveler late 40's, salt and pepper hair, medium build with no visible flab. However I am from India, which is not the most popular ethnicity as a monger. I dress well and smell good, but there were at least 3-4 girls in Classic that refused to meet me when lasered by the mamasan. I had no issues with it since I also refused to take a few girls the mama bought over. Again a stereotype I guess that Indians like more chubbier girls. However once the girl came over (T2, only experience) and we shared a beer and I got her cigs, we hit off well.

I know there are quite a few Indian readers here, so might help them to be ready for rejection sometimes. LOL.[/QUOTE]I would much rather the girl refuse to meet me, than be a starfish later in the room.

[QUOTE=XXL;3042902]I'm white European. I'd rate my rejection rate at Classic 20%, which is quite good compared to eg Soi 6 Pattaya where my rejection rate now stands between 80 and 95%.[/QUOTE]Sorry, are you saying that you reject 20% of the girls offered or that 20% of girls that you would like don't want to go with you?

Many girls are shy to go with foreigners, often scared of the unknown. Speaking Bahasa can help but it's no guarantee.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3042949]Sorry, are you saying that you reject 20% of the girls offered or that 20% of girls that you would like don't want to go with you?

Many girls are shy to go with foreigners, often scared of the unknown. Speaking Bahasa can help but it's no guarantee.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I meant I got rejected by 20% (80%) of the girls. At Classic's rejection occurs at pointing so speaking bahasa changes nothing.

I've noticed some girls use a Whatsapp Business account instead of the Whatsapp personal account. The only visual difference I see is the Business account does not offer video calls.

I asked Grok to delineate the differences. Here is Grok's response:

[URL]https://x.com/i/grok/share/TI1oE6TCjF1Sxzrw04vKZCHbJ[/URL]

Other than the lack of video calling, does anyone have an idea why girls select the Business account. I just don't get it.

I wrote about my first set of Tinder girls (Tinder1 to Tinder4) here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=3041881&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3041881.

Tonight I met with Tinder5. Jesus H. Christ.

I initially contacted Tinder5 while I was in Bali with Tinder3 - the Flight Attendant. Tinder5 listed her age as 18 and was very cute. This appeared to be a catfish because of the age and pics. She assured me her pics were legit so we moved to WA.

She sent a couple more pics. I asked about her height and weight and she replied with 5'5" and 99 pounds. Wow. That's my ideal.

I returned from Bali at around 5 pm. Worked out in the gym at Redtop. Tinder5 came over at 8:30 pm.

There was an ongoing event and there were many security staff walking around. I know that Redtop is girlfriendly but I devised a workaround to the Walk of Shame. I asked Tinder5 to take the elevator from the Lobby to the next floor up, F Floor, which is not access card protected. And that's where I met her. At first sight, wow, just a very pretty, young girl with a beautiful smile dressed in jeans, t shirt and crocs.

Off to the room. My room is one of the nicer rooms I've stayed at, at Redtop. She was immediately affectionate. Total GFE.

Earlier I asked her what would she like to drink since I only had water. How cute, she asked for strawberry or chocolate milk!

The intimacy was absolutely fantastic. A little Bush was a disappointment but the affection and intimacy was incredulous.

I learned my lesson from my first Jakarta trip in 2023 when my second Tinder girl was total GFE. BBFS and stayed overnight. Like a moron I didn't think about seeing her again because I thought all Tinder girls were going to be like her; wrong!

So I invited her back for the next two days.

I assume two main features, Automated Messages and Catalog is main reason for Business profile.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;3043080]I've noticed some girls use a Whatsapp Business account instead of the Whatsapp personal account. The only visual difference I see is the Business account does not offer video calls.

I asked Grok to delineate the differences. Here is Grok's response:

[URL]https://x.com/i/grok/share/TI1oE6TCjF1Sxzrw04vKZCHbJ[/URL]

Other than the lack of video calling, does anyone have an idea why girls select the Business account. I just don't get it.[/QUOTE]

After Tinder5, GFE Girl, went home, I grabbed a bite to eat. It was almost midnight. Classic was only an 8-minute walk. Life is short.

Eight minutes later I'm walking into T5.

I grabbed a brewski and sat to check out the girls. Sure enough a mamasan sat next to me. I told her I just wanted a beer. She asked what was my type. I said young and skinny. She laser-points to a rail-thin girl who subsequently stands up and walks to my table.

Her teeth are totally jacked up. Cute face but will probably not age well. She sat with me and asked if I'the share my beer. Of course I said. She retrieved a mug and poured herself a nice cold one. And then another. And that's okay because I only wanted a few sips and just chill.

I fondled her small ass. I checked for baby damage but didn't see the telltale signs. She asked if she could invite her friend for a 3-way. I asked her to point her out. She was a fatty so I declined.

About ten minutes later, mama comes over and pulls out her notepad: 365,000 / 1 hour. And she asked if I wanted a second girl who magically appeared. Really pretty. Smiling. About 10 pounds overweight. I thought about it. Why the hell not - 500,000 / 1 hour for two girls.

So off to the room. I set my timer at 45 minutes as soon as we entered the fuckroom. Girl1 thought it was funny and chuckled.

I showered with Girl1. I wanted to take a piss and make her hold my cock. Not sure if that's demeaning or erotic. Whatev. She held the monster but I had stagefright so off to the bed. Girl2 then stepped into the shower.

On the bed. You know the routine if you've been to Classic.

Girl1 sucking my nips while Girl2 gobbling my cock. Felt so good. Then I made Girl1 hold my cock in one hand, put her other hand behind Girl2's head, and shove my cock into Girl2's mouth while bobbing her, Girl2's, head.

Time to jimmy up. Put Girl1 on her back. I then made Girl2 hold one of Girl1's legs wide open while I went deep. With a free hand, I shoved a finger into Girl2. So much fun.

Then I swapped girls. I had Girl1 pin down Girl2's leg while I went deep. So much fun.

More of the cockholding and headbobbing by one girl onto the other girl. We all really enjoyed it.

I was spent from my earlier date with Tinder5 and went limp. They both tried hard to bone me up Girl1 took off the jimmy and sucked me off while Girl2 pinned me down. Then Girl2 started jackhammering me while I had a finger in her and Girl1 sucking on my nips AND they both pinned me down. So much fun.

Lots more of the playful b&d.

When it came to pay, they wouldn't accept apple pay. I had no cash and no credit cards. Big Boss came out from his office. I got escorted to my hotel to retrieve cash. Hotel security was a little alarmed seeing a uniformed Classic staff escorting me.

I got the cash, returned to T5 to pay 5 then found myself inside T1.

T1 is interesting. About 50 girls. Half spread out; half seated in the back. There were quite a few girls that were very pretty. Tonight I noticed many of the men appeared to be local Indonesians. I nursed a beer, strolled around, and chillaxed.