Medellin Reports

The problem wasn't necessarily the hotel, its location, or the nightly cost. The problem was more likely the girl, how she came to be in the room, and what preceded her whipping out the pig sticker. I would like to know the name and address of the hotel. When I get time to go through the local papers I will post any information I can find.

[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2009244]He's dead, from Jersey. Gossip about this today was unreal, they saying she was a assassin. I don't know what to believe. Stabbed to death I believe. Everyone is talking about this. I see a lot of you guys posting these $20 night hotels in centro. Look I like cheap to why not stay in Itaqui. Same priced room. Mayorista same 22 dollar girl and much safer?[/QUOTE]

Looks, what documents are on hand, and borderline appearances are ultimately meaningless in those situations. There is legal and illegal. Everyone knows the defining limit. It's a black and white situation that all this chit chat does not change.

[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2009241]Best of luck to you if your ever with them and the police roll up and your a gringo and she looks borderline of age with no cedula.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you. I also assumed he meant re-confirming. It also dilutes the risk of a bullshit shakedown, assuming more than one party does not gang up on the punter.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2009420]Maybe he meant Re-confirming? As in, 4 eyes are better than 2. But you are correct, the ultimate responsibility falls upon us!!

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for writing this. I really enjoyed it and I'm thrilled you and your friends had such a good time. I am also very impressed at the capacity for partying at your ages. By the way, the possibility of someone getting "robbed or worse" at a casa or club are extremely low. Also, you can rest assured the casas and clubs check their girls and don't let random people come in contact with their customers. No need to change a winning game but I wanted to return the favor and put your mind at ease in case you want to try something different the next time you visit your new home away from home.

[QUOTE=Bdb013;2009410]I just returned from Medellin. It was my first time in Medellin and I really loved the place. I will be going back soon. I may have found my home away from home.

Let me start my report by explaining that I am a 55 year old gringo and traveling with two 70 year old gringos. We have traveled the world together to some of the best mongering spots in the world. We have been to Bangkok, Chaimng mai, Pattaya, Siagon, Phenom Penn, Bogota, Mexico City, etc. We love to see the sights and get immersed in the local culture. We also love the girls.

For this trip, we had a couple of objectives. Explore the city, meet the locals, get immersed in their local culture and meet beautiful women. All were met.

We rented a 3 bedroom condo in El Poblado, not far from Park Lleras. We dealt with Barry at Poblado Rentals. Barry was great to work with. He also set us with a local guide, Jimmy Giraldo. Jimmy was awesome. He understood exactly what we wanted. He did not take us to the tourist traps, but helped us understand the Colombian culture and meet real local people.

In preparing from the trip, I spent about 6 weeks on Colombian Cupid picking out and contacting beautiful. By the time I left for my trip I had about 18 that I had culled down to. I had heard some on this forum warning about how cupid was hit and miss...[/QUOTE]

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In preparing from the trip, I spent about 6 weeks on Colombian Cupid picking out and contacting beautiful.
[/QUOTE]I've been using it for a couple of days and only found about two obvious prepagos, and one who insists she is not a prepago but come on. I keep asking them who ordered chicken "Mami, quien pidio pollo?" But that's not going over too well. Hey I thought it was a great ice breaker.

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With all of the girls, we had agreed on $150,000 to $250,000 COP before they arrived. I know I could have gotten by cheaper, but I would rather pay a little more for excellence and that's what I got every night. We walked around centro some during the day, I didn't see anything that came close to my CC girls. I could have went o the Casas or clubs, but didn't feel the need. The condo offered me the safety of knowing the girls would be checked coming and going by the front desk. Little less of a chance of being robbed or worse.
[/QUOTE]Reasonable price. I'm going to work on it some more. I keep getting women in their 40's looking for a serious relationship and shit.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2009497]The problem wasn't necessarily the hotel, its location, or the nightly cost. The problem was more likely the girl, how she came to be in the room, and what preceded her whipping out the pig sticker. I would like to know the name and address of the hotel. When I get time to go through the local papers I will post any information I can find.[/QUOTE]30 minutes says he was dead in first report. Today they retract it and say he is alive. Crazy how they can just write whatever.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2009371]Very good points. And of course I've acknowledged the anti-gringo sentiment. But I haven't run across many Colombians who have flat-out disrespected me or lumped me with the "Ugly American" simply after learning of my nationality. Granted, many think I'm South American until I open my mouth and speak broken Spanish. So that helps in keeping a low profile. But your point is well-taken as it can just take one asshole who has no class and just rampages across an apartment complex for the short-term rental agreements to Americans to be invalidated.

During my last trip to Energy. I noticed a lot of new signs up in the elevators with notices of newly enacted police policies / rules governing partying, pay for play, and even smoking cigarettes on balconies. I hope more Americans understand that Medellin is not Las Vegas. And you should never treat it as such. Hopefully it can be preserved for a bit longer before the Ugly Americans ruin everything. Which they are so adept at doing in other parts of the world.

Stay safe bro.[/QUOTE]The new laws are crazy. The worst they can enter your property with no reason at all to search for what ever they seem to want to search for. Parties that disturb the neighbors are huge fines and get larger with each offense. Smoking, hookers strolling are all in this crazy cartoon advisory they sent out. Probably saw that in the building put up on the wall. Which reminds me why I don't buy inside residential towers with other Colombians living there. I'm not the sharpest crayon it took me 5 apartments lost before I realized the writing on the wall and then planned accordingly. Our apartments are all in weird walkups with no neighbors mostly. Second floor of a hotel, buy a small building only way to survive here. Which is so different then the coast. In both Cartagena and santa marta the administrator herself or himself have signed me into the building welcoming us. Not so much here in Medellin.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2009278]Why can't you be responsible enough to confirm the age yourself? Since when is it security's responsibility to confirm the age of guests of people who are staying in private apartments?[/QUOTE]Amen, ask to see there cedula. Take a photo of it email it to yourself. Better yet before they even come over ask to see there cedula tell them to send you a photo of it. The police arrested guys in one of our apartments one girl over was 17 the other 18. All of them were in cuffs. They were fully dressed chatting on couch, didn't matter its presumed the worst by the police. Neighbor saw a young girl and called the cops. It takes that much for a vacation to be ruined. This was 2 years ago. His fault for not being pro-activate to make sure they were the right age.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2009504]I agree with you. I also assumed he meant re-confirming. It also dilutes the risk of a bullshit shakedown, assuming more than one party does not gang up on the punter.[/QUOTE]Precisely. Both you and El Mechanico are correct. The official establishments are in strict compliance with Colombian law. So if they violate the law by turning their eyes away from illegal activity their business model will be crushed. And they aren't about to let that happen for a gringo tourist. Having an additional screen (particularly from somebody skilled at discerning real IDs from fake IDs) is not a liability like some are making it out to be. But an extra layer of protection.

My sense is that the people who have issues w / this are likely those who are engaged in some illegal activity and thus don't want to go through any official channels. If you are engaging in legal activity with adult women who have the agency to represent themselves. There is nothing to be worried about.

[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2009645] I'm not the sharpest crayon it took me 5 apartments lost before I realized the writing on the wall and then planned accordingly. Our apartments are all in weird walkups with no neighbors mostly. Second floor of a hotel, buy a small building only way to survive here. Which is so different then the coast. In both Cartagena and santa marta the administrator herself or himself have signed me into the building welcoming us. Not so much here in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Cartagena is becoming the same when it comes to chica friendly buildings. In January I was assured by the airbnb host I would have zero problems bringing overnight visitors over. The security at the building though gave me so much shit. The host was embaressed and tried to help me. Now I found a new building and a new host who also assured me that I can bring guests over night. I'm going next month and I'll see.

For Medellin, I always rent with no doorman in a small building over shops. I have the key and no one else.

That's really messed up because they mentioned the guy's name in the initial report. His family could have gotten that information. Thank goodness no newspaper photographers got to the scene. Nothing is to grisly for the local papers.

[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2009640]30 minutes says he was dead in first report. Today they retract it and say he is alive. Crazy how they can just write whatever.[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen,

May I refer you back to my post of January 22,2017?

It is difficult to see into the future but it was obvious back then the Colombian scene was changing and more bad things were going to be happening and I wrote as much in my report of Jan. 22 2017, only a few weeks ago.

If you read my post of January 22 2017 it almost foretells this unfortunate news referenced below.

From someone who has lived in Colombia longer than almost anyone else on this forum, let me caution you how it is now:

Every local girl in Medellin is now chaperoned by at least two men and these men now keep a close eye on the few women left.

It is not like fifteen years ago when there were 10 women for every man here.

It is not like that anymore and bad things like this unfortunate killing are what happen in environments like this with fewer women.

And for those of you in Cartagena, each girl at the clock tower has at least one "handler" watching her and you.

The girls cannot work the clock tower without a handler.

Men, heed my advice, I have no dog in this fight, I am not doing business in Colombia, heed my advice, go to Panama City or Campo Alegre to meet Colombian girls in a safe environment.

When you get back home alive you will be glad you did.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2009191][URL]https://www.minuto30.com/ciudadano-estadounidense-fue-asesinado-dentro-de-un-hotel-en-el-centro-de-medellin/357922/[/URL]

WTF? A stabbing & now a murder?

WTF is going on down there guys? Or is same incident as the stabbing but misreported (hopefully)?

El Mechanic.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2009839]Gentlemen,
It is not like fifteen years ago when there were 10 women for every man here.
[/QUOTE]According to the National Administrative Department of Statistics, Medellin had, by 2005, a population of 2,223,078 inhabitants, making it the second largest city in Colombia. The metropolitan area of Medellíand in 2005 included 3,312,165 inhabitants. 46.7% of the population are male and 53.3% are female.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn[/URL]#Demographics.

That's 6.6 more women then men per 100. So in a current population of around 3.7 million that's about 220,000 more women then men in Medellin area.

Colombia get around 3 million tourists a year, I think we'd hear about it if a large percentage were being killed.

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Men, heed my advice, I have no dog in this fight, I am not doing business in Colombia, heed my advice, go to Panama City or Campo Alegre to meet Colombian girls in a safe environment.

When you get back home alive you will be glad you did.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your post so don't take this the wrong way, but it's not different in Panama City. I know a guy who routinely buys tickets for Colombian hookers, sets them up with a room in Panama City, and meets up with them every night at Ashe club when they are done working. He's the handler, pimp, or novio or whatever the fuck you want to call it. I'm sure there are real independents in PC but it's not very different from what you get in Cartagena.

And the last time I went out with a group in Medellin it was two guys and four women with me joining them... This was in November.

Had been considering Colombia but given some of this news and this post perhaps I should look at Brazil or elsewhere? What's the consensus of the board?

I've never been to South America. Any of you guys who have experience in SA, or CA for that matter, what would you guys recommend?

I've mongered in Mexico and Asia most recently in Thailand a few weeks ago.

Thanks boys.

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2009839]Gentlemen,

May I refer you back to my post of January 22,2017?

It is difficult to see into the future but it was obvious back then the Colombian scene was changing and more bad things were going to be happening and I wrote as much in my report of Jan. 22 2017, only a few weeks ago.

If you read my post of January 22 2017 it almost foretells this unfortunate news referenced below.

From someone who has lived in Colombia longer than almost anyone else on this forum, let me caution you how it is now:

Every local girl in Medellin is now chaperoned by at least two men and these men now keep a close eye on the few women left..[/QUOTE]