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[QUOTE=RetiredForever]Some interesting info:
2. If you bar fine a girl she does get a cut of the bar fine unless you buy her a lady drink. So if you keep a girl for more than 1 night you will notice she always wants you to go with her to pay fine and wants a drink so she gets her cut.
10. Never bother bar fining girls from go go bars. Just not cost effective and satisfaction on lower end. Figure bar fine 600B and may be 1,500-2,000 or more for her plus drinks. Heck you can easily get 4 beach girls for that price or 2 beer bar girls. There is some advantage getting bar girl over beach girls since you are somewhat paying for a little insurance from being robbed and health card. There are however some great buys on the beach. If you really must have one of them check to see if they have short time room at location and try and work a deal. They are happy since they know you are only going to take up maybe at most 1 hour of time and they are back out again looking for new customer.
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There is some good info there.
2. I have never heard of this. I have pop into a bar to pay a BF either for a few days in advance or to clear a debt. I have paid the BF while the girl was in the salon. She still got her cut.
10. I would have agreed with you until my last trip in January where I took a risk a BF a go go girl and she was one of the best girls I have had.
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Tips in go gos
[QUOTE=RetiredForever]Some interesting info:
1. If you go to leave tip and you leave on tray it goes to general fund for all the girls to split and end of night. If you hand the girl the tip directly she gets to keep 100%.
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You are correct about the tip on the tray. My question for you (and others): Do you give the tip directly to the server AND leave a small tip on the tray? Or do you just directly tip the waitress and not leave anything else on the tray for the rest of the crew?
I've always been curious what most of us do.
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Pattaya Crime
[QUOTE=GroinStrain] Could anyone advise how family friendly is the Jomtien beach area or is everything still in your face?[/QUOTE]As Daddy07 advises, Jomtien is family-friendly enough. The epicenter of "in-your-face mongering" seems to be Walking Street and Pattaya Beach at night, so Jomtein is safe enough.
But not 100% safe: While reading the paper in Pattaya I read many stories of westerners being targeted by Thai muggers on a daily basis, including home-invasions and daylight muggings and murders. Recently a grandmother was tied up and badly beaten by a group of ladyboys who broke into her son's apartment to steal small money.
About a year ago two Russian women were relaxing on Jomtein Beach - a Thai guy wanted to rob them quietly from behind. They saw him, so he shot them dead (now he is also dead - he was sentenced to death).
I felt safe in Pattaya, but obviously you need to take care, just like anywhere.
[b]Warning - gruesome crime photos.[/b]
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TV Trouble
[QUOTE=Piper1] Recently a grandmother was tied up and badly beaten by a group of ladyboys who broke into her son's apartment to steal small money.
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[url]http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t200281.html[/url]
Here is a report and pic of this. Why do they not round up these vermin? In soi 6, they are still soliciting customers at 9 am. The yabba keeps them going. I know they need money as we all do but they are responsible for a very high percentage of nasty crimes.
[url]http://www.livingdollspattaya.com/news.html[/url] I went in here and spoke to the owner. A LOT of bad blood. Maybe best to avoid.
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[QUOTE=The Departed]Here is a report and pic of this. Why do they not round up these vermin? In soi 6, they are still soliciting customers at 9 am. The yabba keeps them going. I know they need money as we all do but they are responsible for a very high percentage of nasty crimes.[/QUOTE]
What now? You want to 'round up' every man who dresses like a woman because of this one crime? You think that tranvestitism is a gaurantee of violent criminality? Seems like not that long ago they were saying that about African-Americans back in my country.
Anyway, of course they're soliciting customers at 9 am. Sexual desire knows no time limits.
Speaking of which, I was recently scouring Pattaya at about 3:00 AM looking for regular females, and I couldn't find anything good. One things for sure, Friday night the opportunties do run out early, even in low season.
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[QUOTE=Allover]You are correct about the tip on the tray. My question for you (and others): Do you give the tip directly to the server AND leave a small tip on the tray? Or do you just directly tip the waitress and not leave anything else on the tray for the rest of the crew?
I've always been curious what most of us do.[/QUOTE]
It depends on the service the waitress provides. If she constantly nagging me about selecting a girl to sit with me or asking me to buy more drinks or won't stop with trying to massage my neck and hands then she gets nothing. However I have found some waitresses to be quite helpful like bringing over a cold wet wipe to on those hot nights or suggesting a new talent. Those waitresses get my tips but I usually leave the small amount on the tray.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Anyway, of course they're soliciting customers at 9 am. Sexual desire knows no time limits.[/QUOTE]Get real Mr. Opebo. Ladyboys or not is not the problem. YaBa is the problem. You're not stupid, so you know that 9:00am hooking is not because of 'sexual desire' but due to drugs and desperation. And it's very rare for guys to be looking for hookers at 9:00am unless they're also spaced out. Tell me I'm wrong.
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[QUOTE=Piper1]Get real Mr. Opebo. Ladyboys or not is not the problem. YaBa is the problem. You're not stupid, so you know that 9:00am hooking is not because of 'sexual desire' but due to drugs and desperation. And it's very rare for guys to be looking for hookers at 9:00am unless they'e also spaced out. Tell me I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]
You're wrong. The 'sexual desire' I was referring to was of course on the part of the customers. Lots of guys look for hookers at 9:00 AM - true, I find morning persons disturbing, but they have a right to get laid. As for me I'm often up till dawn looking for hookers, though that's mostly if I come in on a nightbus (unfortunately most long-distance travel in Thailand is by nightbus). And I obviously never take drugs - though as always I am pleased to see others taking them.
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[QUOTE=Allover]You are correct about the tip on the tray. My question for you (and others): Do you give the tip directly to the server AND leave a small tip on the tray? Or do you just directly tip the waitress and not leave anything else on the tray for the rest of the crew?
I've always been curious what most of us do.[/QUOTE]I do both.
Leave on tray and tip server directly.
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I'm pretty sure I've seen those 2 in Piper's posts hanging around Soi 14 or so before late at night.
Now for a couple of REASONS why a plumbing check is a good idea, goo look at the TIFFANY'S winners (in the Pattaya Mail edition of 5/22 - "IF it looks too good to be true, it PROBABLY IS!") The one on the left would have fooled me (not if it hadn't been thru the "add-a-crack-to-me" though :) The external plumbing is impossible to disguise)
Piper - depending, I'd consider an early morninger - particularly if the last PM went "sour"
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Pattaya Breakfast
The 9 am ladyboys I am referring to have been hooking since 4 pm the previous day. They can keep going because of the yabba. Ladyboys are a Code Red threat for a number of reasons, perhaps cheap of which is they are walking drug cocktails.
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I often go mongering at 9am. Why not. I am on holiday and time is irrelevent.
My flight gets in at 06-30 so I am hitting Pattaya and ready to go early morning. Until my body clock adjusts and the jet lag fades I sleep, wake and get horny at odd times.
Thats the beauty of Pattaya. Many bars on Sois 7 and 8 have an early shift that start at 06-00 for people such as me.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]YAnd I obviously never take drugs - though as always I am pleased to see others taking them.[/QUOTE]
Ok, I'll bite... why are you pleased to see others taking them?
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motorbike taxi
[QUOTE=El Frances]In Joe Cose's post, I was very surprised by this:
"The next morning I offer to take her to the Big Buddha temple at Jomtien and there we ring the bells for luck and get blessed by the monk while our motorbike taxidrivers wait patiently (cannot share a taxi in the daytime, police problem)."
It's the first time I hear about any police problem in a taxi with a girl at any time of the day. Any explanation?[/QUOTE]
I meant to say they did not want to go such a long way with three people riding.
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[QUOTE=Piper1]Get real Mr. Opebo.= You're not stupid, so you know that 9:00am hooking is not because of 'sexual desire' but due to drugs and desperation. And it's very rare for guys to be looking for hookers at 9:00am unless they're also spaced out. Tell me I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]
WRONG!
Sexual desire is a 24 hour thing. I'm a morning man and nothing I like better than an early morning fuck. 9am is too late. By the end of the day I am too tired to give my best.
We're all different. I've never found a shortage of girls early morning. 6am 7am no matter. Those on Walking Street are almost certainly last nights leftovers, but elsewhere many are freshly arrived after a good nights sleep, and ready and willing to give an excellent performance!