German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=The Cane; 1506696]Legalized prostitution provides the perfect incentive for men to remain single. I mean, if you can get a good job with a good income, pay all your bills and invest for the future, and still bang multiple beautiful women from around the world (even fuck them in the ass Woodman-style LOL!) , then why mess that up by getting married to some nag who thinks it's her job to ruin (I mean "run" hehehe!) your life?

Marriage is simply another way for a man walking the straight and narrow to get a steady supply of pussy. It's the traditional way that society condones. And as you point out, a married man is "paying for it" just like anybody else here! I have a friend who married a foreign girl. Now, this guy is my friend but also an extremely unattractive dude. Nobody is going to fuck him for free (unless she's also extremely unattractive too, and even then she might decline since people always want things from others that they themselves cannot deliver LOL!). And yet, like any man he wants a steady supply of hootchie too. But, he's against "paying for it". So, he gets this reasonably attractive foreign girl to say yes (I fear just to get her ticket to America!)...[/QUOTE]Mr Cane, We seem to have same mind set on this issue.

Everytime I say (which I do not rarely say in public as I am aware of back flash) that married guy is paying for his wife in not all but in most cases (about maybe 95%). People find it annoying thing to hear. I think they do some how realize this in their deep dilemma or doubt, but they do not want to admit it.

Me too, I fucked more than beautiful girl average men ever will in their life time already and I am only 33 years old. Some of these girls are rather famous porn actress some men, or some married men are jerking off hidden from their wife, but I get to fuck them for real. Of course money is incentive as I do pay for these sexual service, but so as the married men, and married men are bind by law also if they decide to separate they have to pay for divorce (separation) , me too, when I pay for woman for sex I am also paying them not just for sex, but I am also paying women to go away after sex LOL this is as Charlie Sheen said LOL If I want her back, I pay her again and it is included in the price that she go away after sex LOL Very similar system, only difference is maybe monger do not get same companionship as married guy, but man! I do not want that kind of too intense companionship, for me excort for few days or doing most dirtiest thing with beautiful young women that married men has hard time asking wife to do is just more than fine and better married mens sex with wife. I am being honest and this is fact people.

I mean how else can I get a situation where I can get two beautiful girls from different part of the world to suck my cock? I mean in the club it is possible but it will be hard to set up situation like that whenever I want, with prostitute I am ruler for that and I get what I pay for. Also how else can I fuck porn actress like in the movie, I do not mingle with porn actress in my daily life, so I need to pay agency to deliver me porn actress so that I can fuck her like in the porn movie where as most ordinary mindset men just jerk off in their imagination with porn video and settle for their wife at home. I mean. I am too awake for this myth of marriage, I thought about it deeply but it is not for me, I cannot stop mongering, I mean I have been mongering since I was 17 or 18 years old and I began with escort service in Geneva, since then I am hooked to prostitutes and I do not see this as most ordinary men see this hobby, for me it is like collecting memory and I set my self a goal of over 1000 beautiful girl I want to fuck in my life time, so prostitutes are must for me, I love it! And I got good memories in many 5 star hotels around the world as I have done many many things in those hotels LOL LOL People say when they travel they remember museum, church or some cultural place, me also but more I remember the insane sex memories from my trip to different cities and country LOL Even in tokyo, when I pass some hotels, I cannot stop smile a bit because it remind me of crazy sex session I had in those hotels, same as when I see some nation in the news, it remind me of some insane sex session I had in those nations on the news channel on TV, is it insane or is it the normal result of a man who had many sex memories with beuties? I do not know, but for me it make sense. Makes great sense LOL.

For normal guy or women, it is. My ideology or belief is something they love to criticize or denounce, but I feel I am more rational and I do not criticize those who pay for their wifes daily life, belongings etc exchange for companionship, bad constant sex etc that they call love, I do not denounce that, but it will be nice when these brain washed people do not denounce professional monger like me who love to fuck any girl beautiful whether she is pro or normal beautiful girls. It is just that married men do not want to accept the fact that they partly pay for the marriage in most cases and women (wives) need system of marriage as it is their lifeline LOL so we cannot blame them for denouncing mongers, I like this forum as we can openly discuss things like this as if I say things I wrote here, it is likely that I will end up in fist fight LOL, but pleeeease only place I have wrestling match is on the bed with beautiful young girls around the globe and my mongering continues on and on till the day I die, I got hooked since I was 17 years of age, I aint going to stop till 70 years old when I cannot get it up any more LOL I hope they will invent some insane medicine by then so I can live and die in FKK LOL.

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[QUOTE=Mr Ho; 1507748]In contrary. I feel Hungarian and Czech girls are mostly independent girls and have no pimps. Just doing it for better lives, this is my experience but I see less girls from hungary and Czech, especially hungary who seems to be more independent girls just had no opportunity, so doing do better their lives.

Do you guys feel the same?[/QUOTE]No. Don't believe what the girls tell you. There was a gang of pimped Hungarians at Oase, even sone arrests were made in FFM. There are pimped Czech girls, I know of a Czech girl who had a female pimp. She actually fled to anclub that protectrd her by not letting the other girl in.

All nationalities are affected, there's Polish, German, African, Russian, Romanian, Bulgarian girls with pimps. Whatever you call a pimp. The clubs are not any better than other brothels, they just have that clean friendly face to the customer. It's a brutal business. The younger and less educated the girl the higher the chances that she does have a manager / pimp. There's so many variations to that theme.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1507880]I am taking this to the lounge:

No. Don't believe what the girls tell you. There was a gang of pimped Hungarians at Oase, even sone arrests were made in FFM. There are pimped Czech girls, I know of a Czech girl who had a female pimp. She actually fled to anclub that protectrd her by not letting the other girl in.

All nationalities are affected, there's Polish, German, African, Russian, Romanian, Bulgarian girls with pimps. Whatever you call a pimp. The clubs are not any better than other brothels, they just have that clean friendly face to the customer. It's a brutal business. The younger and less educated the girl the higher the chances that she does have a manager / pimp. There's so many variations to that theme.

HB[/QUOTE]I would say some of these girls who has managers are more of broker or agency who get you into German fkk, so I would call it more of management office where they do charge the girl fee and not brutal treatment on girls. I mean they need agency to start this job in foreign country right? So this agency support and secure their work in German fkk in exchange of fee.

On the other hand, as the article I put link to in Oase forum about 25 hells angel arrest in Majorca, these guys girls are more exploited I think and I met few of these girls (all Germans) in Palace fkk, you know ones with big Abdul tattoo on their body, and few other with different name of ownerships.

Hmmm there must be some girls at German fkk who got jobs there normally though? Or do I believe in too much of their life stories? LOL.

Or at least, they began with this agency or pimps, but after while, they got rid of them because prostitution is illegal, so if the girls are hit or whatever, girls can goto police, and in some way police are waiting till these gang or pimp etc are going to do something, so that they have reason to arrest them and crack into more bigger thing that they do criminally.

I met some real nice girls at fkk and some got bit personal too (not fall in love or nothing like that I am not naive, but you know I know them long enough to call them some kind of friends and they at least most girls never ripped me off or treat me badly) , so that I only wish good thing and future for these girls.

But hey in that article link, when I read that in summer that biker gang got arrested in Majorca and one of the guys name was Abudul. There was bell ring in my head like wow these are the guys. I hope situation get better for some of these girls.

PS: Here are some videos of the arrest, they had quite set up there in Majorca, I mean it is not all came from prostitution rings, but sadly to realize we are contributing to it and even more sadly to realize I am in part benefiting from their business operation and they do provide good looking girls to fkk.

Is it necessary evil that help punters and also fkk operators? As without them we may have more difficulty to find good girls at fkk. I just hope girls are treated more or less right and not brutally. I mean for alot of girls case I know. It is actually their choices in away to get involve with gangs. Maybe it began as mistake of girls youth that dragged on and on as these pimps won't let their merchandise go away easily.

Few weeks ago we discuss about fkk opening in Germany. With these guys involve, even though it is legal business in Germany, normal rich business man may have problem opening fkk in Germany. I mean I think it is easy to open fkk in germany if you have good business plan, clean criminal record and money to invest, even foreigners can open fkk in Germany I think as Germany welcome investment more than 1mill euro and employ more than 10 German nationals, it is state policy. BUT, even you open the best fkk facility, you need good girls and only way to get good girls it seems is get in touch with PIMPS and in this case biker gangs, so in a way they will have life line to your fkk business as without them it will be hard to get good girls to your clubs. However, even they argue that prostitution is legal in germany, it is illegal to profit from prostitute, so what they are doing being pimp is illegal, as a result they in part got arrested for it.

FKK is interesting business opportunity in germany for corporations and I am even interested, but structure wise if you have to get involve with these gang type material, it is think twice area as you do not want that they control the oil pipe to your fkk business. And even you manage to find your own pipe of good looking working girls, these pimps and gangs may consider that as you stole their merchandises. Hmmm prostitutions even in legal format attract rather grey or black area underworld people.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=25[/url]+hells+angel+majorca&sm=3

The link for prostitute ring gang arrest did not go well somehow, so I post it again, I hope it works as link. If it does not work, you got to right click and open it with open new address:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=25[/url]+hells+angel+majorca&sm=3

Thanks for all the information about FKK clubs and the entire industry.

I know how things work in real world now.

I was too naive and sentimental to be blinded by the shiny clean surface.

[QUOTE=Mr Ho;1507974]I mean they need agency to start this job in foreign country right? So this agency support and secure their work in German fkk in exchange of fee.[/QUOTE]No. No need for any agency or fee. No need to be "secured". And absolutely no reason to pay big money to anybody.

HB

[QUOTE=Mr Ho; 1507974]Hmmm there must be some girls at German fkk who got jobs there normally though? Or do I believe in too much of their life stories? LOL. [/QUOTE.

There are definitely FKK girls who decided to work there voluntarily and are not being exploited. However there are also guys who prey on these girls too and try to exploit them, sometimes successfully. I am finding that there are less of these girls in the clubs now and this is probably linked to the political concern about rising levels of coercion, leading to new legislative proposals. I am as a consequence visiting the clubs less and trying to find more enthusiastic girls in London. There are actually plenty of English (and sometimes Australian etc.) girls here who have normal lives but want to earn a bit of extra cash and have some fun at the same time, but it is a bit harder to find them than just turning up at an FKK club.

Gentlemen,

I have time off to hit FKK land on Christmas day and few days afterwards. I never been there around that time.

How slow is it during that time? Is it so slow that is not worth visiting because all girls are gone and FKKs become sausage fests, or it is just less girls and less men and it is all right?

From what I see all FKKs work on Christmas but start later in the day. I will be arriving to DUS but could drive down to FRA area. Which area would you suggest?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1508137]No. No need for any agency or fee. No need to be "secured". And absolutely no reason to pay big money to anybody.

HB[/QUOTE]I hope it is like that, but if you born in Less Developed Country where monthly salary is not even 300euro or much less. These girls cannot afford to buy ticket to come to germany to work etc. So I thought that there is an agency where they sponsor them exchanging for % of their future income or charge them interest.

I don't know as I did meet german girls who has these tattoos and I also heard the stories from other girls about other girls being involved with biker gangs.

I never heard of these stories on foreign girls, but logically it makes sense that they first come to germany through agency of some kind.

Well I don't know. But I hope this is not the story and girls at fkk are mostly happy and not exploited.

[QUOTE=London Traveller; 1508143]

[QUOTE=Mr Ho; 1507974]Hmmm there must be some girls at German fkk who got jobs there normally though? Or do I believe in too much of their life stories? LOL..[/QUOTE]There are definitely FKK girls who decided to work there voluntarily and are not being exploited. However there are also guys who prey on these girls too and try to exploit them, sometimes successfully. I am finding that there are less of these girls in the clubs now and this is probably linked to the political concern about rising levels of coercion, leading to new legislative proposals. I am as a consequence visiting the clubs less and trying to find more enthusiastic girls in London. There are actually plenty of English (and sometimes Australian etc.) girls here who have normal lives but want to earn a bit of extra cash and have some fun at the same time, but it is a bit harder to find them than just turning up at an FKK club.[/QUOTE]The whole point of making prostitution legal is abolish working girls getting exploited by so called pimps.

But it is strange to know for the fact that some of these girls who do not need pimp like German girls actually have pimp or related person in their lives and even tattoo of pimps name on their body. I mean why? This is my mystery.

Well some of these girls are nice girls so whatever make them happy and I wish they will end in happiness.

Having said that, I do think it is not easy for fkk to gather beautiful girls, so it is maybe necessary evil for fkk owner to be in touch with pimps to gather constant supply of beautiful girls.

Haha I like your gig in London Mr London traveller! It is like Coed need cash next door amateur thing! Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1508147]Gentlemen,

I have time off to hit FKK land on Christmas day and few days afterwards. I never been there around that time.

How slow is it during that time? Is it so slow that is not worth visiting because all girls are gone and FKKs become sausage fests, or it is just less girls and less men and it is all right?

From what I see all FKKs work on Christmas but start later in the day. I will be arriving to DUS but could drive down to FRA area. Which area would you suggest?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]The problem you will find is not a girl shortage, but that the girls on duty are those who are not very sociable and don't visit their families at Christmas or don't have families to go to. These are not really the best service providers IMHO.

[QUOTE=Hedonian;1508147]How slow is it during that time? Is it so slow that is not worth visiting because all girls are gone and FKKs become sausage fests, or it is just less girls and less men and it is all right?[/QUOTE]The Orthodox Christmas Day falls on the 7th January so the Bulgarian, Romanian, Greek, Spanish and Italian girls may still be around. ;)

Also next year the Orthodox and Western church Easters coincide.:(

Again: Sharks pays the girls 1. 200 EUR if they work from Dec 20 to Jan 6. So Sharks should have a good line-up in that period. At least it did the last 2 years.

HB

[QUOTE=Ableyone; 1508178]The Orthodox Christmas Day falls on the 7th January so the Bulgarian, Romanian, Greek, Spanish and Italian girls may still be around. .

Also next year the Orthodox and Western church Easters coincide.[/QUOTE]I like this info. :)