Medellin Reports

I am going to continue to live dangerously as you characterize it. This is because I don't believe that the sky is falling.

I agree with you that there are pimps in Colombia. I couldn't say whether there are more than 15 years ago or not but I don't personally notice a difference. Anyone who is worried should go where others say it's safe.

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2009839]Gentlemen,

May I refer you back to my post of January 22,2017?

It is difficult to see into the future but it was obvious back then the Colombian scene was changing and more bad things were going to be happening and I wrote as much in my report of Jan. 22 2017, only a few weeks ago.

If you read my post of January 22 2017 it almost foretells this unfortunate news referenced below.

From someone who has lived in Colombia longer than almost anyone else on this forum, let me caution you how it is now:

Every local girl in Medellin is now chaperoned by at least two men and these men now keep a close eye on the few women left..[/QUOTE]

I believe this post based on the factual sources and based on my own experience.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2009962]According to the National Administrative Department of Statistics, Medellin had, by 2005, a population of 2,223,078 inhabitants, making it the second largest city in Colombia. The metropolitan area of Medelland in 2005 included 3,312,165 inhabitants. 46.7% of the population are male and 53.3% are female.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn[/URL]#Demographics.

That's 6.6 more women then men per 100. So in a current population of around 3.7 million that's about 220,000 more women then men in Medellin area.

Colombia get around 3 million tourists a year, I think we'd hear about it if a large percentage were being killed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2009677]That's really messed up because they mentioned the guy's name in the initial report. His family could have gotten that information. Thank goodness no newspaper photographers got to the scene. Nothing is to grisly for the local papers.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. There has been a rash of motorcycle deaths. I mean like daily here, Las Palmas is right behind me, I sometimes here the crashes. The news shows the bodies. I laugh with the expat how I thought the USA censored to much. I kind of miss the censorship on dead bodies here. As for the guy that says go to panama over here. I don't agree with him. I live here, I mind my own business I leave my watch in a safe. I say please and thank you. I don't walk down deserted streets late at night. Panama is expensive. Girls in front of Marriott asking for $200 bucks. I miss the early 90's in panama. Everything even the octopus I love there got expensive.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2009658]Cartagena is becoming the same when it comes to chica friendly buildings. In January I was assured by the airbnb host I would have zero problems bringing overnight visitors over. The security at the building though gave me so much shit. The host was embaressed and tried to help me. Now I found a new building and a new host who also assured me that I can bring guests over night. I'm going next month and I'll see.

For Medellin, I always rent with no doorman in a small building over shops. I have the key and no one else.[/QUOTE]Wow about Cartagena. Wife and I just started going back there again. We stay at one of the Morros buildings for that pool those complexes have. But I wouldn't know about chica friendly because it's just us two or the family. But I believe it. When I checked into Morros Ulta or Morros 3 I had to wear a band on my arm and only people with the band were allowed in. As far as talent we were partying out by candella and there most have been 70 working girls right out front waiting to be picked up. Was a buyers market. Was hot as shit there, I always make some wrong turn when walking around the wall city, especially after a few rums.

[QUOTE=KeeperNight4;2009151]I caught the red-eye in last night and stayed at hotel Botero little place across the street for 45 Mill decide to stay another night for $24 I like the room very functional after reading these reports getting a little scared LOL.[/QUOTE]This is my spot when staying in centro. Can't get any closer to the airport shuttle and It also happens to be directly across from casa Yakuza. I also like how the rooms have a radio, nice touch.

I wouldn't be too scared there. The place is pretty mild IMO.

[QUOTE=Dm605;2009990]Had been considering Colombia but given some of this news and this post perhaps I should look at Brazil or elsewhere? What's the consensus of the board?[/QUOTE]Safety usually isn't much of a concern for someone until they run out of luck, then their whole perspective changes. But odds are good you will come home with all your skin if you don't go around drunk, stay away from the white powder, and don't walk around el centro in the downtown area at night.

I've made three long trips to Medellin, the latest in February, and with each trip the Facebook girls have gotten more unreliable, not showing for appointments and not answering their messages for days. I'm not sure if they are getting more offers with more gringos in town, or if they are like many of the girls in Costa Rica who only want to work when they badly need $.

I had some good experiences at the casas but the numbers as to girls working was noticeably down from last summer. Turnover is also slow in these venues, meaning you see the same girls over and over week after week. So I'm not all giddy about Medellin at the moment though I was after my first trip there. Something new is often quite interesting but again, we are talking perspective.

It certainly does not hurt to be nice to the security people. Always say Hello, to them. Thank them when they call you a taxi or check in one of your chicas. One time I had a bunch of extra bread sticks from Papa Johns. I gave it to the guard and you would have thought I gave him filet mignon. Some of these people do not have a lot to eat. Some of them barely have money to get home after work. I am sure they get paid the Colombian minimum or not much more. Tip them for good service. Or maybe toward the beginning of your trip to ensure good service. I have had good luck. My experience is primarily with the security at the Blux.

Another things that helps. If you know your girls well enough, suggest she dress a little more normally. I've had a few chicas show up in their barrio rat / hooker outfits on. It was embarrasing for the guard, for me, and for those who live there that saw us. Particularly when they leave in the morning wearing that slutty outfit from the night before.

[QUOTE=Combo;2009263]They might smile at you, but chances are they don't like you. They know what you're in their country for and they know you're paying these girls more than they make in a week. They will generate hate in a lot of men. That doesn't mean they won't do their job and be friendly with you.

You are certainly correct that you're better off being respectful and keeping a low profile. And obviously not bringing comuna rats into the building.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dm605;2009990]Had been considering Colombia but given some of this news and this post perhaps I should look at Brazil or elsewhere? What's the consensus of the board?.[/QUOTE]Brazil and Colombia have a similar homicide rate, Brazil at 24.6 dead per 100,000 and Colombia at 27.9/100,000.

For comparison Costa Rica is 10/100,000, US is 3.9/100,000 and Thailand is also 3.9.

Stay out of and away from a favela / barrio drug gang though and your chances get much better.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate[/URL]

South America is definitely the deep end of the pool but Colombia does get 3 million tourists a year and you don't hear about many of them getting killed.

Killing tourists brings down a lot of heat.

State Dept: (for all of Colombia).

"Violence associated with crime is a threat throughout Colombia. During the period November 2014 to January 2016, there were several homicides of USA Citizens in connection with robberies, including armed robbery on streets and in taxi cabs, public transport, home invasions, and muggings. The victims represented a mix of tourists, long-term residents and persons with dual USA -Colombian citizenship."

The Medellin ones I read about- one resisted a armed robbery in a cab-65 yo, the other some kind of drug deal gone wrong it seemed.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings[/URL]

[URL]https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/colombia-travel-warning.html[/URL]

That is a good tip about the girls' attire. If you are ever around the casas at the beginning or end of their shifts you will notice the girls leave and arrive in clothing that blends in with anyone else on the street. The casas don't allow them to wear any provocative clothing outside the establishments.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2010105]It certainly does not hurt to be nice to the security people. Always say Hello, to them. Thank them when they call you a taxi or check in one of your chicas. One time I had a bunch of extra bread sticks from Papa Johns. I gave it to the guard and you would have thought I gave him filet mignon. Some of these people do not have a lot to eat. Some of them barely have money to get home after work. I am sure they get paid the Colombian minimum or not much more. Tip them for good service. Or maybe toward the beginning of your trip to ensure good service. I have had good luck. My experience is primarily with the security at the Blux.

Another things that helps. If you know your girls well enough, suggest she dress a little more normally. I've had a few chicas show up in their barrio rat / hooker outfits on. It was embarrasing for the guard, for me, and for those who live there that saw us. Particularly when they leave in the morning wearing that slutty outfit from the night before.[/QUOTE]

Hey all,

I'm planning a last minute trip to MDE between March 22- March 25. Can anyone help me out and be my tour guide for a day?

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2009609]I've been using it for a couple of days and only found about two obvious prepagos, and one who insists she is not a prepago but come on. I keep asking them who ordered chicken "Mami, quien pidio pollo?" But that's not going over too well. Hey I thought it was a great ice breaker.

Reasonable price. I'm going to work on it some more. I keep getting women in their 40's looking for a serious relationship and shit.[/QUOTE]I'm telling you it worked for me. You need to search for what you want, age, body build, level of English, ect. Message them saying you think they are beautiful and you would like to meet them. If the message back, get their whatsapp number. Ask them if they would come see you. If yes, ask them if they will spend the night. Go ahead and cut to the chase. They will tell you Si or Nada. Ask them to send you sexy photos, they will. They will have friends they can bring too. Go ahead and set a price for time and type of service. I always asked if they did sexo oral natural. Most did. It was funny, even some of the girls that wouldn't come see me, recommended friends that would. You are going to get messages from 40-50 years old looking for a serious relationship. Delete them and move on. Pick out the ones you like and make a date. It really was that simple. Most of these girls were coming to me in Poblado from some of the poorer neighborhoods so they have to take the tram and a taxi or uber to get to you. But all were gorgeous, clean, dressed nice and very happy to be there. O don't really speak Spanish, but with google translate it was a breeze, online and in person. I can't be positive, but I got the impression they were all semi pros looking to have fun and pick up extra cash. I don't think any of the ones I saw worked in a strip club or casa. They all had regular jobs and went to school. Ages 19-24. We are 55, 70 & 70 years old. No problem at all.

Good luck and have fun.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2010005]I am going to continue to live dangerously as you characterize it. This is because I don't believe that the sky is falling.

I agree with you that there are pimps in Colombia. I couldn't say whether there are more than 15 years ago or not but I don't personally notice a difference. Anyone who is worried should go where others say it's safe.[/QUOTE]He's just celebrating "World The Sky is Falling Day. " It is observed in every mongering destination a few times each year. It's a fluid holiday that begins when the self-proclaimed foremost authority on an area has to pay 15% more than he paid 10 years ago.

Some people celebrate by fleeing to another destination that isn't observing the holiday. Others return home and hide under the bed. The majority just ignore the frantic half dozen who are preaching the apocalypse.

Just to add some details, Brazil have 25 cities on the top 50 cities with highest numbers of homicide. But, and there is a huge but for the crime rates in S. A. Most of them are drug related and on second place family related (same as in Europe, so don't get married). So as mentioned, keep away from "favelas" and other high crime areas (Barrios). I have been more than 30 times in South America and have never in my monger trips been in trouble with criminals (just once in Rio with corrupt police).

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2010109]Brazil and Colombia have a similar homicide rate, Brazil at 24.6 dead per 100,000 and Colombia at 27.9/100,000.

For comparison Costa Rica is 10/100,000, US is 3.9/100,000 and Thailand is also 3.9.

Stay out of and away from a favela / barrio drug gang though and your chances get much better.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate[/URL]

South America is definitely the deep end of the pool but Colombia does get 3 million tourists a year and you don't hear about many of them getting killed.

Killing tourists brings down a lot of heat.

State Dept: (for all of Colombia)...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dm605;2009990]Had been considering Colombia but given some of this news and this post perhaps I should look at Brazil or elsewhere? What's the consensus of the board?

I've never been to South America. Any of you guys who have experience in SA, or CA for that matter, what would you guys recommend?

I've mongered in Mexico and Asia most recently in Thailand a few weeks ago.

Thanks boys.[/QUOTE]Brasil, Colombia, Thailand, CR, etc. The thing all these places have in common is lots of poor, attractive women that need to make money to feed their kid (s). Along with this poverty comes danger. If you didn't have the poverty (and danger), you'd unlikely have the hot girls willing to have sex with you for so little.

If you want risk-free mongering, why not do the FKKs in Germany? They are fantastic. Personally, I like destinations with balmy weather in Dec through April, so S. America or Asia is more my style. And if you exercise due caution you can minimize (buy not eliminate) your risk.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2010347]He's just celebrating "World The Sky is Falling Day. " It is observed in every mongering destination a few times each year. It's a fluid holiday that begins when the self-proclaimed foremost authority on an area has to pay 15% more than he paid 10 years ago.

Some people celebrate by fleeing to another destination that isn't observing the holiday. Others return home and hide under the bed. The majority just ignore the frantic half dozen who are preaching the apocalypse.[/QUOTE]Yup. Some things have indeed gotten worse, but some things have gotten better also. For example, it's amazing how much the restaurant scene has improved in MDE. I actually look forward to sampling the excellent restaurants now. That would have been laughable 6 or 8 years ago.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2010083]This is my spot when staying in centro. Can't get any closer to the airport shuttle and It also happens to be directly across from casa Yakuza. I also like how the rooms have a radio, nice touch.

I wouldn't be too scared there. The place is pretty mild IMO.[/QUOTE]Highest murder rate is in el centro.

Ya, you can't be rolling around drunk but the streets change drastically from day time to evening when the shops close up. All the, druggies and homeless invade.

In centro you have to know explicitly where you can and can't go. What street and how far down the street.