Kyiv

[QUOTE=Fred54;2663583]You don't need to go in dating website to find such girl. I got a lot of contact from instagram, just with following some girls.

The best ones were:

- buy me a tank, there is a discount on worldoftank, it ends just before tonight dinner.

- it's my birthday tomorrow, I'm sure you know how to please a woman.

- I need makeup for the dinner, please order some for me today.

I let you guess my answer and the becoming of such contact.[/QUOTE]You nailed it, Fred!

I take it another step up. When the girl becomes a candidate as a regular, instead of giving her money, that she would blow away on stupid shit, I take her to the shoe store, and watch what she wants to buy. I suggest practical long term choices, good quality and classy, that she would wear every day at the University (and remember who bought it for her). I still take her to my affordable and reliable beauty salon before we go to theater, but I pay cash to the master myself. And it's fun to observe how the master doesn't react to ever changing kaleidoscope of young beauties.

There was a funny occasion in the very beginning, where I did my own simple haircut and made a reservation for my regular. Showed her avatar in Viber to the master, and she replied with:

- This is your daughter? She looks very much like you.

Anyway, when I take the candidate to the shoe store, I watch what she chooses. The best one allowed me to buy her only one pair of shoes for her diploma presentation at the University. She said: "One pair is enough. You work so hard earning the money, no reason to spend it absent-mindlessly". That's when I understood that for the next few days I'll be monogamous. We spent weeks together without talking about money, and my expenses on her were reasonable.

Another GIA girl arrived on the first date without any makeup. She was young and naturally beautiful, but didn't know I'll extend beyond the initial hour, and then take her to theater. She asked to buy some cosmetics nearby, and paid herself. I didn't object. It was minimal, and I don't play those stupid macho alpha male games.

So, yes, Fred is absolutely correct, it is easy to qualify the candidates by vetting them while shopping. Greedy ones get the exit door.

[QUOTE=Desin;2663659]I would expect the same from you.[/QUOTE]Desin, my services are not complementary, and the billing rate is quite high.

There was a discussion five years ago or so about high level pro girls charging across the globe about the same as an average lawyer.

I am not a lawyer. I expect at least twice as much. Feel free to ignore my posts.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2663686]
I could careless, the problem guys read these fabrication and believe them. Keep up the great reports.[/QUOTE]Yeah well, one has to learn by mistake. At least once. Kiev is a nice holiday destination if one likes eye candy on a warm summer day. The rest is questionably.

The one part of opportunity I didn't pursue is hanging out in the main street looking for girls at late hours. The last night I took a walk there and sat down for like 10 minutes. A pretty girl came to sit to the bench next to me, giving me this strange look: it was like "is there anything I can do for you?" She had her headphones on, so I hesitated to start to speak English to her. There were couple of occasions like this on day time as well, so it could have been that my clothes gave me up for an European tourist.

But as tempting it is to travel to Kiev and see if this could be fruitful, it's still too risky choice considering all the expenses the trip will take. If fellow travelers visit the city, I would like to hear how it goes if you try this out. One person already told about his success in this. Girls are of course out there on the benches to be spotted by their own aged peers as well, so it would seem to require the girl to make it all clear that she is approachable.

[QUOTE=PhotoSlider;2664024]Desin, my services are not complementary, and the billing rate is quite high.

There was a discussion five years ago or so about high level pro girls charging across the globe about the same as an average lawyer.

I am not a lawyer. I expect at least twice as much. Feel free to ignore my posts.[/QUOTE]I actually thought you were speaking from experience.

Thank you for clarifying this was not the case.

According to Ria have Ukrainian forces shot at the Russian militants in eastern Ukraine with mortar shells this night. Ukraine denies. This could be the " false flag ". Also the White House say the the Russian have sent 7000 more troops to the border the latest days.

[QUOTE=Fred54;2663583]You don't need to go in dating website to find such girl. I got a lot of contact from instagram, just with following some girls.

The best ones were:

- buy me a tank, there is a discount on worldoftank, it ends just before tonight dinner..[/QUOTE]My answer would be, let's try it before I buy you one.

[URL]https://stayinkiev.com/tank-driving[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nero6;2664324]". Also the White House say the the Russian have sent 7000 more troops to the border the latest days.[/QUOTE]Well The WH Should have released a schedule of the Upcoming Invasions of Ukraine to enable Maria and others to Plan their Vacations accordingly. [URL]https://tass.com/world/1404247[/URL].

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2664455]Well The WH Should have released a schedule of the Upcoming Invasions of Ukraine to enable Maria and others to Plan their Vacations accordingly. [URL]https://tass.com/world/1404247[/URL].[/QUOTE]How did it go Dow today. And why to you think it fall so much?

[QUOTE=Nero6;2664587]How did it go Dow today. And why to you think it fall so much?[/QUOTE]Today Friday 18 Feb gone Up. [URL]https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-today-us-futures-dow-jones-russia-ukraine-crisis-2022-2[/URL].

LOL, The stock market is like a guy with IBS, All it takes is one Fart to ruin the Day.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2664791]Today Friday 18 Feb gone Up. [URL]https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-today-us-futures-dow-jones-russia-ukraine-crisis-2022-2[/URL].

LOL, The stock market is like a guy with IBS, All it takes is one Fart to ruin the Day.[/QUOTE]Yes the stock marked is like crazy bitches. There have just been a big explosion in centrum of Donetsk.

[QUOTE=Nero6;2664897]Yes the stock marked is like crazy bitches. There have just been a big explosion in centrum of Donetsk.[/QUOTE]Putin's cook's mercenaries were flought there earlier. Shit is getting real.

[QUOTE=Desin;2665179]Putin's cook's mercenaries were flought there earlier. Shit is getting real.[/QUOTE]The situation is getting really bad in eastern Ukraine at this moment (my friend told me he live in Kharkiv). Also the Russian military will continue with there exercise in Belarus (it should had finish today). My friend in Kiev say there are not many tourist in Kiev now. And that many of the local rich people have left Ukraine and many from middle class have gone to the countryside or to Lviv.

Visited the strip club which is getting worse and worse. A good location notwithstanding. There are many girls, but no ladies worth mentioning.

All the girls are bored and are mechanically rocking on stage. Previously, there were a few who could dance.

And almost no one seems to bother giving private dances. What are they really bothering about?

I bought 2 dancers in advance yesterday and we went into the room. The first thing she says is that she is in a bad mood.

Yes really a good start!

The first two songs she did were doing gymnastic exercises on the floor. I signaled that she had to get within reach, but she arrogantly ignored it.

I got up and said this did not work for me. If I could not touch the goods, it could be the same.

She tried to hold me back, but I had been patient for a long time and got into a bad mood myself. This tends to be contagious.

I chatted with the two clowns of administrators. One smarter than the other. I said that since the start of the club I had had hundreds of private dancers, never complained, but that it was a big disappointment to pay 1000 Grivna and just sit on the couch watching uninspired movements without any contact. I explained that I was very dissatisfied. I have vip card and free admission and was expecting some support. Maybe a couple for free consider or a drink or two as compensation.

I received no other response than that the two looked at me stupidly. One of them came with the back of the Crazy menu, where it was written in small print that you had to agree the menu with the dancer in advance. Hello, I've never heard of that before. So without agreeing with the dancer, you can risk not getting anything other than hearing about how much the dancer has a headache?

I have never before needed to agree in advance what a private dance should contain. That should be obvious. In Ukraine, there has never been anything but close contact in all clubs' private rooms. What the hell is going on? Is there no one who cares about customer satisfaction? Who is the real boss of this club?

I'm not stingy, so they want me to spend my money elsewhere?

[QUOTE=James006;2666146]Visited the strip club which is getting worse and worse. A good location notwithstanding. There are many girls, but no ladies worth mentioning.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your informative report.

When did you visit Harem?

[QUOTE=James006;2666146]Visited the strip club which is getting worse and worse. A good location notwithstanding. There are many girls, but no ladies worth mentioning.

All the girls are bored and are mechanically rocking on stage. Previously, there were a few who could dance.

And almost no one seems to bother giving private dances. What are they really bothering about?

I bought 2 dancers in advance yesterday and we went into the room. The first thing she says is that she is in a bad mood.

Yes really a good start!

The first two songs she did were doing gymnastic exercises on the floor. I signaled that she had to get within reach, but she arrogantly ignored it.

I got up and said this did not work for me. If I could not touch the goods, it could be the same.

She tried to hold me back, but I had been patient for a long time and got into a bad mood myself. This tends to be contagious.[/QUOTE]You got to go to where the money is at and that is paradise cabaret. Sorry, it is the only strip club in Kiev that is "worth" it. The girls are good looking, fake tattas, but you won't hear them complain the private dance.