Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1383619]I think we are in solid agreement on this. No soapy shower is a strike. No DFK is a strike. No BBBJ is a strike. No blowjob (covered or bare) is a capital offense. Starfish is a capital offense. My rule is 3 strikes and she is out. One capital offense and she is out. All P4P Thai girls know what they should do. All these performance related issues are part of the implied unwritten contract between the customer and the service provider. In a more perfect world we wouldn't need to discuss these things with the lady in question, but in reality, some bad girls try to cut corners. It is also true however, that when a working girl likes you, her performance / service is better. That may be unprofessional of her, but that is human nature.

If you take your time and flirt-interview the girl properly, these problems can be avoided in the first place 95% of the time. My point is once in a while we end up in bed with a lemon. I was trying to illustrate how to make lemonade. The alternative is to terminate and send the girl packing as FN did. This is a lose lose situation for both parties. It is up to the punter which road to take. Once in a blue moon nothing can be done to change the situation for the better and the girl must be sent away.[/QUOTE]I am agreeing to most of what is written from a various set of ISG posters lately when it comes to deviding various performance into strikes vs capital offenses. I have somewhat a bit more strict regime as I consider refusal of BBBJ as a capital offense (actually a crime). Giving good head is an art and I am into fine arts and in an utopic world there would be no such things as covered BJ`s.

As stated earlier all the girls in the P4P game (Go Go, BG, FL`s, Escorts, G-clubs) know the game. Corner cuttings we leave to the proffesional race drivers.

Normaly I put my pride into screening / interviewing the girls (I mostly do FL`s). Looks, body, chemistry, mood are important factors I try to evaluate on sceene before bringing them back. This normaly ends in from good to great sex sessions. Only a couple of times did I have this change of attitude when entering room / session soon starts. And one time a Spasso girl refused to give me BBBJ. This was such a turn off and a capital crime so I had to, imidiately, send her on her way. I actually consider this worse than a starfish performance (memory is fading but I am sure I did encountered atleast a couple). I gave her 1000BHT as in taxicompensations. But rethinking this event I should not give her more than max 200BHT as in if she pulls this stunt on several guys a night and gets a 1000 it is a pretty decent income for actually doing nothing except from refusing to commit into BBBJ. Made me think!

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1383753]I have have girls eat my ass, w / o even asking them too. A price has already been agreed upon, so no tip is in order. And the ones that ask you to CIM and eat it w/o me asking. Why would they do that unless they enjoy?[/QUOTE]It's not necessarily that they enjoy it but simply learned things that way and think it's normal or expected. I knew a BG who did CIM and hated it but said she thought it was part of normal sex. Being a selfish prick, I did not correct her.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1383753]I don't totally disagree.

But I have found many hookers that are like us believe it or not. Perverts like many of us. There are girls out there who love sex. Girls who are not haters and really just want to make a man / customer happy. They love cum in their pussy, love to suck cock with CIM, and eat ass.

I have have girls eat my ass, w / o even asking them too. A price has already been agreed upon, so no tip is in order. And the ones that ask you to CIM and eat it w / o me asking. Why would they do that unless they enjoy?[/QUOTE]I absolutely agree with you. Some SW do enjoy the sex and are eager to push the boundaries and try new things. After all they may be getting fucked several times a day, have experienced all the "normal stuff," most of the not so normal stuff and are eager to try something new that doesn't fall beyond their limits, whatever those may be. In a post a few weeks ago a forum member reported Apple at Cherry Massage told him that she really likes anal hard and fast. Otherwise she gets bored! Another forum member claimed she told him she was up for something new and wanted to see what it was like to get banged by two guys at the same time. I like her spirit! I've had countless experiences with SW when it was clear they were really getting into it (could have been acting, but I don't think so) and took great pleasure in seeing that I was really into what they were doing to me (no doubt also thinking about the nice tip I was going to give the.) I also have a friend who is a club promoter on Miami Beach, Florida. This fellow is friends with several escorts. He claims they tell him one reason they are in the business is they really love to fuck and feel they have hit the jackpot when they get a John who is reasonably nice looking, well groomed and knows how to fuck.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1383490]Sounds like you had a double barrel of really bad luck at Baccara. The behavior of the cheeky girl was outrageous and very un-Baccara like. I have never seen such behavior at Baccara so I must ask if maybe you were drinking a lot or maybe having too good a time which might partially have blinded you and at the same time explain the unacceptable behavior of the girl. I mean no disrespect to you, but I had to ask if there was something you were leaving out of the story since this is so unusual and over the top. In any case, there is no excuse for the girl's behavior and if a bar girl ever pulled that trick on me, I would have complained and demanded that the drink be taken off my tab. You did the right thing. She had some nerve hitting you up for a lady drink while she was entertaining another customer.

So on my last night in BKK, I am back at Baccara to pick up M to celebrate my bon voyage fair well night. I spot T and she comes over. I buy her a drink and tell her I am leaving and won't see her again until February. She asks if I am barfining M again. I tell her yes and she says she understands. M is my # 1 girl. I don't disagree with her, but I tell her I like her too, very much. Then T says, 'When you come back to BKK in February, we can boom boom, no condom, if you want. I know you no like condom. You cum better, no condom. ' Well damn, that's one of the reasons why I love BKK and Baccara Go Go girls in particular so much. T is such a little darling. This story will be continued and I will be returning to BKK in less than 3 weeks. The point I was trying to make in relating this little story of T and me is that sometimes from a so so beginning good things can turn out. Over the last 4 years I have had some great sessions with T. I always fool around with plenty of other girls while I am in BKK, but it is always nice to hook up with her 2, 3, or 4 times per trip. I really wish she had not augmented her breasts. They used to be perfect. Anyway, I am looking forward to bare backing her in just a few weeks. I am sure I am not the only guy she goes natural with, but having known her for 4 years, I am pretty sure I am about to become a member in very small private club. I love BKK![/QUOTE]NB,

Thanks for the input, I appreciate it. I don't drink so that's not an issue. I have a lot of compassion for these girls and treat them well. I've been doing the P4P thing for many a years and have had a blast and would say hat my experiences have been 90% positive. These girls, and especially bar girls are pros at separating you from your money. But there has to be a certain amount of respect in any transaction. The European I was with was as amazed as I was at her disrespect. Then after being called on it she acted like a real be*tch when she was back on the dance floor. She definitely has issues.

I barfined another girl off the same floor the next night and she's still laying in bed next to me. She's not the best in bed, rather shy, in town two months. She's cuter than anything I've seen in the last month and I liked her personality. She actually took me to her place to get some clothes. We've been hanging around having a lot of laughs and some decent sex. She's taken to calling me pa pa. Little bit of an age difference.

I get what your saying about long term relationships with these girls. Although I have my few back home when I travel I prefer short. I'll keep a girl for days if I like her but I don't go looking for them on return trips unless they were stellar. I'm not interested in coaxing steller out of them at a cost of thousands. I get it, the job sucks for them. I treat them very nice and I expect to be treated the same. I understand they run into a lot of jerks and have to build defences to stay sane but I also think that after a while they should be able to judge character over a few hours of lady drinks and playfulness. And if they can't they need to learn to survive.

The girl that I booted from the room I'm not sure of. I mean we had a good repor going. I offered her food, and she ate, I asked if she needed anything on the way back to the room. Did she want anything special to drink. I try to be nice. The one I'm with right now got treated to a very nice upscale massage at a Thai spa. Not a street massage. The tip was the cost of a street massage. Anyway. For her to act as she did was totally out of expectation of such a transaction and she wasn't a 20 year old, she had been at it a while. By the time that she countered with ST I was tired of the game and can't see how it could have possibly turned out well. A lot of guys would have been ok wih that I was not. Maybe next time she will think twice. Like your thinking of T's silicone. I had two bad experiences in one night and returned anyway and am enjoying myself now. My only problem is that I leave tomorrow.

I'm going out with one of the regulars in town tonight otherwise I would barfine J again. I do have an appointment with #24 at Annie's as my goodbye to BKK.

Lastly I am not put off with Baccara or the scene in BKK. I will be back to both. It's the nature of the business. I've done it long enough to accept hat there will be disappointments. I share part of the blame for not getting the details up front. Usually my intuition is good without having to draft a contract. This time it wasn't. Not crying over it, just reporting. Some guys may handle it my way, some might yours, some might a 100 different other ways. The beauty of the forum is you see what some of the pitfalls of the business are. You learn to adjust your behavior to where you're comfortable. In the end, history is perfect as you can't change it but you can adjust your future behavior.

Sorry if this response is all over the place but it's early and we didn't eat dinner until 12:30.

Little story about J. She sits through breakfast and doesn't eat a thing. All day I'm asking her if she's hungry and keep getting "no." We go to her place, hang out a little, get our massage and head back to the hotel. Still not hungry. We boom boom and sleep. Wake up late and shower and go out. Find a nice place to eat on Soi 11 and sit down. She has a long discussion with the waitress and finally the food comes. All five main courses and a few appetizers. She proceeds to eat enough food for 4 men. I'm amazed. She's can't be taller than 4'10" and maybe weighs 90 lbs. It was a good source for a lot of fun joking for the rest of the night.

Sadly my month is coming to an end. I'm tired, the business is in need of some attention, I miss a few friends, and a few of my regular girls, but I am sad that I have to leave. There is something inherently right about a place that you can walk 10 minutes and get an afternoon BJ. A place where a old coot can walk down the street with a 20 year old stunner and the only leers he gets is from other guys who wish she were with them. I had the girl at the massage parlor tell me that my girl was beautiful when J went to the bathroom."Don't fall in love with Thai women or you will have your heart broken." "The young girls are all about money." No chance of that but I surely can understand guys doing so. I'll rent. I'm sure had I asked if she was available after work she would have said yes. It seems that the Thai girls whether regular or working are always working. They are all playing the field. I guess it's become ingrained in the culture. Most have some experience with foreigners and money.

FN

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1383699]I say again. Purchasing a girl is not like buying a m D hamburger. You know what you get when you buy burger. You never know what you going to get with a girl.

I see time and time again why girls prefer japanese- if japanese paid same as farang I bet a lot of girls still wouldn't go with farang. Faranag is just too hard to please. If I was a hooker I surely wouldn't want to exchange bodily fluids with a stranger.[/QUOTE]It is not like buying a hamburger, because it is not a product. It is a service. You are purchasing a service, like car repair, or computer repair. With any service you expect it to be performed well. If a repairman only fixed one of the things agreed upon in your computer, you would not be happy. Remember you are the customer, she is the provider. You have hired her for services. It is up to her to perform. You are not there to make her "happy." She is there to make you happy. For that you pay her money.

While on the topic of cheeseboogers, NanaBurger was actually pretty good! I'd recommend to anyone if they have a slight urge to eat a tasty burger before entering the nanaplaza complex

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1383896]While on the topic of cheeseboogers, NanaBurger was actually pretty good! I'd recommend to anyone if they have a slight urge to eat a tasty burger before entering the nanaplaza complex[/QUOTE]I thought about it until I saw where they keep the meat stored.

But I eat SW pussy, so not much difference I guess.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1383611]at least Dr BJs, where the minimum cost is 1000 Baht for a 30 minute BBBJ session.[/QUOTE]There are actually two different rates. The cost for a Consultant is indeed 1, 000 baht for a 30 minute BBBJ, however a Nurse cost's 700 baht for a 30 minute BBBJ.

Regards,

BJ

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1383898]I thought about it until I saw where they keep the meat stored.

But I eat SW pussy, so not much difference I guess.[/QUOTE]The cheeseburger doesn't wake your wanky. The shit we don't do for that few seconds of ahhhhhh.

[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1383899]There are actually two different rates. The cost for a Consultant is indeed 1, 000 baht for a 30 minute BBBJ, however a Nurse cost's 700 baht for a 30 minute BBBJ.

Regards,

BJ[/QUOTE]Is it just BBBJ or do you also get full service for the price.

Thanks.

Chris

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1384091]Is it just BBBJ or do you also get full service for the price.

Thanks.

Chris[/QUOTE]I don't think he is on here everyday. Last time I went you add 1000 B to the prices he stated for FS.

Not everyone's cup of tea. She is in her late 30's and use to be at Annie's. I have seen her 3 times and taken her LT. If you check BJ's site under staff she is "backadamowth". Her real name is Fon.

She is a sweet girl and a pleaser. A great GFE 3 holer. I am just sayin. She has 2 kids, so be nice and not cheap with her.

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1384091]Is it just BBBJ or do you also get full service for the price.

Thanks.

Chris[/QUOTE]700 and 1000 is for BJ. If during the BJ you want full service just add 1000 baht.

Very little sleep. I think I reported that I had a great Nuru at Dr BJ's. I thank him for his hospitality and adice. Had one good pull from Baccara and then a day that just didn't work out. I still haven't decided whether I should have given her anything as some guys suggested. I've never purposely disrespected a girl but I felt that she was disrespectful and I treated her in kind. I'll play by any rules but there's no room for renegotiations after you've take your moves.

I had a good time with my two nighter. Great girl. Not the best sex but she was fun and I had to be inside her. It just felt right. She took off about 10 am. I showered up, went and had breakfast and headed over to Dr BJ's for a. BJ. Texted the good doctor and got his recommendation. I was not unhappy.

Last night the good Doctor and I went to Nana. I swore I wasn't going to pull anything as I was tired and felt it would have been a waste. Besides I had an appointment at Annie's for 12 today. All good plans.

We started out at Rainbow 4 and it was packed. Good selection but nothing clicked for him. I wasn't looking so on we went. Stopped at Billboard and saw a couple of possibilities. He was negotiating real hard with a waitress and had a good deal going. I was still in the "I'm not doing it mode." There was one little wide hipped shortie that was trying to get my attention real hard. Let's call her "N." Well the Doc tells his girl that he's going to get her tomorrow because he's going to hang out with me. Now he negotiated 1500 for 2 hours, three holes. That's some negotiations. So we go to Anglewitch and watch a little of the show. I tell him that I'm tired and he should have taken the waitress, especially at that price. So back upstairs we go. She's talking to another guy but finally comes over and they continue their talk."N" is still trying to get my attention so finally I cave. Call her over and buy her a drink. Next thing you know the negotiating starts. Well I get pretty much the same deal the Dr. Does but one less hole.

We hit it back to the hotel. All I really wanted to do was get off. Nothing elaborate. We get back we do out business, and she gets comfortable. Ohhh noo! Baby, I'm tired, got to get up and pack, eat, go get my slacks I had made, pick up my new glasses and go meet the Dr at Annie's at 12. Then back and get ready for the airport. I hated to kick her out because she was really nice but I promised to see her on my return and she was happy.

Met the Dr. At Annie's. #24 was outside and she acted like I was her long lost love. Ran down the street to greet me. Ha!

Had a great session. Amazing woman in a lot of ways. She's 20 and really has her head on right as far as what she's doing and her long term goals. Very likable girl. Great mix of GFE / PSE. She adjusts to your mood.

The Dr and I ate lunch at a great little place a little further down 4.

I'm at BKK Singapore Air lounge having some food and waiting for my flight. The trip was a great success. Still a little of a blur. I'm not used to going full blast for a month. I might be able to make some time for Songkran in April. Will see if I can get a decent rate with miles this close to travel.

Back to the cold. Back to the warm honeys at home.