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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2150470]It is not about security. Catching the girls trying to steal his stuff turns Waffles on. He plants counterfeit bills and old phones as bait. When the girls attempt to steal, they trigger the alarm. Their panic and embarrassment gives him a boner. The game is a part of his kink. It is a way to add some drama to otherwise uneventful mongering. When the police fished the cheap camera that he said was not worth much out of the streetwalker's pussy pocket, it was orgasmic. Waffles actually wants them to steal, as it is part of the erotic humiliation kink.

Most mongers are terrified at the thought of taking some street meat they just nutted in down to the police station for a cavity search. However, a monger with an erotic humiliation fetish would cream in his pants seeing a girl he just fucked suffering such public humiliation, as it is an extension of the sexual encounter. The danger of it going wrong just heightens the sexual arousal.[/QUOTE]ROFL. Funny as hell post.

[QUOTE=XMan;2150349]Wild Orchid Resort is the place with pool parties, not Orchid Inn. And Orchid Inn is far older. I guess someone might say "older sister". Scorebirds and even Kokomos are known for pool parties. But the newest party place is the rooftop pool area at ABC. It is called AQUA and there have already been some comments about the atmosphere and system earlier on this thread. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]The new thing about aqua is that the 500 p min charge, consumable, for men only, only applies towards your drinks. So be sure you are ready to drink 500 p, which is not hard at aqua, else you pay for something you didn't consume. A mixed drink is 150 p I believe and they have cheap draft beer. I could swear it use to include drinks AND food.

Aqua has few freelancers. And if they are there, they are NOT being forward. You need to approach them. There is a TS socialite that is always there with girls that are freelancers I believe. But to be sure you are with company, get a FL from town or even barfine a girl and bring her to Aqua. But most of my barfines don't want to be bothered with Aqua. After a shag, they want to go home or back to the bar, not out on the town. Get a FL or even an office worker off of FC and take her there.

Overall Aqua is good for highclass fun and food and drink and service, and a nice break from the bottom-dweller 3rd world street scene in AC, or the low rent bars and High Society. But it has nothing to do with the real AC. It is full of rich tourists from europe and the middle east. You see families including wives and older kids. A far cry from the loner monger coming to AC or the group of party guys coming to AC to get laid for a few days before going back to Australia. The bad thing about Aqua is the food is hit or miss. Plan on possibly waiting 40 minutes for a meal.

I like Aqua as an Oasis in the middle of AC's 3rd world fun. But nothing says AC like High Society at 2 am, with FL's and beggers and viagra salesmen outside, TS's every 5 feet, and bargirls doing the zombie dance, and drunk tourists etc etc. Hopefully Aqua is not an indication of the future of AC, else the budget mongering scene is soon to be gone.

[QUOTE=VicVeg;2156570]The new thing about aqua is that the 500 p min charge, consumable, for men only, only applies towards your drinks. So be sure you are ready to drink 500 p, which is not hard at aqua, else you pay for something you didn't consume. A mixed drink is 150 p I believe and they have cheap draft beer. I could swear it use to include drinks AND food.
[/QUOTE]You are right in that the P500 used to include food. Now drinks only. I will go there with non-bar girls. The local call center girls like it if someone else is paying.

I did go there with a mate just to show him and we would have to pay 2 x P500 for a drink each. No thanks.

The food is rubbish. I don't bother to order foods there.

I probably go to Aqua once per month. There are better places where the local non-bargirl will be more comfortable.

BD.

I have to laugh at some of the comments here. I already know how this post will be received but I got to say it. Sometimes I think Mr. E (with apologies to like minded individuals!) is the only guy with his head screwed on straight when it comes to girls and reality.

I know some think he is full of shit and I have no idea if his walk is as good as his talk (I suspect it may well be) but he calls it like he sees it and does not have a this hooker has a heart of gold attitude. AC hookers are not like other hookers may as well have been said by someone from Jupiter. And this idea that guys are going on "dates" business because you bought her a steak that she left most of on the plate.

Wake up gents. Yours is not that special and it is not rocket science, it is mainly pisos and the ability to string together a dozen words. Had to LOL at the old joke about lying. So true!

SE.

[QUOTE=VicVeg;2156485]
The Hi So girls feel like straight out ghetto working girls, and are often the lower end girls, who are fat / old / dirty / are missing teeth, etc etc. I might screw them, but know I am swimming in dirty water.
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[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;2156517]I have no idea what time / day of the week you went to High Society, but I disagree with you. Some of the nicest looking girls I have seen in AC were in Hiso. And not all of them are hookers. The bar girls, door girls you may find attractive often end up going to the nightclub. Maybe you just visited on a bad day.[/QUOTE]I agree with you ConquerorVal.

There seem to be more and more trolls here. What is it with the Phils threads that attracts these lower end forum members?

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2156693]I agree with you ConquerorVal.

There seem to be more and more trolls here. What is it with the Phils threads that attracts these lower end forum members?[/QUOTE]I am not a troll. I am a 'life engineer' actually. I live in the world of statistics and averages. Yes, there are some hotties in High Society, but are usually with a group of girls, and guys, and are very unapproachable. And they are not just 'giving it away'. If you go up to them and ask for short time etc. , they will scoff and walk away. They want to be treated like the hottie they are. They will want you to chat them up, treat them nice, buy them and their friends drinks, and if you are only a tourist, ie you don't live in AC, you will have to step up your game even more to be with them. They want the long term 'sugar daddy' to see around town time and time again, and not just the one time shag. They make a life out of being in the AC 'elite' social scene of attractive girls hanging around foreigners who have money and are willing to spend it on them. And many hot girls will not be with just any man. I got into a group of hot girls once in AC and one of the really hot girls sat in Hi So and guy after guy came by and checked her out and she would usually turn her head and look away, ie 'not for all the pesos in your bank account'. She could afford to act like that. She still had dates, nice clothes and probably didn't work a job to pay for it all.

Anyway, my point is there are hot girls in Hi So, but they are hit or miss, and to be alot of work. At a minimum, you are into it for a night of talking, drinking, dancing and paying for her friends. If you just walk up and ask for a shag, you had better offer 5 k pesos or more if you want a chance. Offer the standard 1. 5 and you will get a scoff and her back turned real fast.

Most of the girls, probably 80% or more in Hi So, are average at best. The type you would see in the bars that wouldn't get much attention. They will take 1500 pesos with no dance, drama or talk required. They will often approach you. Unless you look like a young Brad Pitt with blue peso notes hanging out of your pocket, forget about an elite hottie in Hi So ever approaching you.

So please don't consider me a troll. I am talking about averages in Hi So. And most are NOT elite. Most are flawed. Old, fat, 4 kids, missing teeth, cut throat etc etc. So be on your guard when mongering in Hi So!

[QUOTE=VicVeg;2156814]Anyway, my point is there are hot girls in Hi So, but they are hit or miss, and to be alot of work. At a minimum, you are into it for a night of talking, drinking, dancing and paying for her friends. If you just walk up and ask for a shag, you had better offer 5 k pesos or more if you want a chance. Offer the standard 1. 5 and you will get a scoff and her back turned real fast.[/QUOTE]Buy drinks? Dance? Talk? For what? First of all the music is too loud to be talking. Second of all, I am not buying them broads shit. Third of all, what are you offering for? Walk up to them and say let's go. If they don't ask how much just give them 1000 to 1500 pesos before they leave.

When a chick is at a table with friends and a bunch of alcohol then she is there to party and hang out with her friends. I am not trying to step into a situation like that. I go to the club to find someone that is ready to earn something, not someone that I have to wait around for all night to finish partying.

Know your objective and act accordingly. Now if you are a guy that is around for the partying and don't mind seeing where it takes you then go over to the table, but still don't buy them broads shit. Hell, it is 6 of them and 1 of you. They have to chip in 20 pesos each to buy you a drink, whereas you are out of 720 pesos to quench their thirst. And you probably won't fuck but one if that. You are a tourist. They should be trying to show you some pinay hospitality. I never was a baller because ballers get used.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2156647]I have to laugh at some of the comments here. I already know how this post will be received but I got to say it. Sometimes I think Mr. E (with apologies to like minded individuals!) is the only guy with his head screwed on straight when it comes to girls and reality.

I know some think he is full of shit and I have no idea if his walk is as good as his talk (I suspect it may well be) but he calls it like he sees it and does not have a this hooker has a heart of gold attitude. AC hookers are not like other hookers may as well have been said by someone from Jupiter. And this idea that guys are going on "dates" business because you bought her a steak that she left most of on the plate.

Wake up gents. Yours is not that special and it is not rocket science, it is mainly pisos and the ability to string together a dozen words. Had to LOL at the old joke about lying. So true!
SE.[/QUOTE]I think at one end of the spectrum there are guys like Chocha Monger and Tagalog2016 who treat the girls like shit (or at least talk about them as if they are shit), and at the other end there are guys who treat them like princesses, feel sorry for them, believe everything they say and give them way too much money.

Most of the board members here are somewhere in between those two far ends of the spectrum. Some of us are right in the middle, some of us are closer to Chocha Monger and Tagalog2016 (like Mr. E for example) and some of us are closer to the other end. But what we all have in common is I think, that on the one hand we treat the girls with respect and consider them as human beings but on the other hand we don't buy their bullshit and don't let them play games with us.

And I think we also have in common that we don't like the guys who are at the two far ends of the spectrum. However if people (like me for example) criticize guys like CM and Tagalog2016, who are at the end of the spectrum they really don't like, then that doesn't mean automatically that they are at the far end of the other side of the spectrum. Most likely they are somewhere in between.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2156827]Buy drinks? Dance? Talk? For what? [/QUOTE]What's wrong with Mr E attitude? He wants to get just what he pays for, without additional useless chaff. If you want to shop for a steak at a butcher shop, would you be happy, if a salesman imposed you to drink a cup of tea at your expense before you could proceed to the shopping itself? Would you be happy, if a steak said, don't grill me, I want to take a rest for a while, since I had a sleepless night at a bucher shop, before you bought me?

Some guys enjoy to combine courtship and sex, and I don't consider, there's something wrong with that. But then you should court a normal girl, because when you court a prostitute, it looks same ridiculous, as if you have courted a steak, before to eat it.

[QUOTE=Tagalog2016;2156884]What's wrong with Mr E attitude? He wants to get just what he pays for, without additional useless chaff. If you want to shop for a steak at a butcher shop, would you be happy, if a salesman imposed you to drink a cup of tea at your expense before you could proceed to the shopping itself? Would you be happy, if a steak said, don't grill me, I want to take a rest for a while, since I had a sleepless night at a bucher shop, before you bought me?

Some guys enjoy to combine courtship and sex, and I don't consider, there's something wrong with that. But then you should court a normal girl, because when you court a prostitute, it looks same ridiculous, as if you have courted a steak, before to eat it.[/QUOTE]I unfortunately think you guys are missing it. Many girls in the PI will sell sex, but not really. They go out to High Society for example, where 'rich' foreigners hang out looking to see what might happen. They might meet a great boyfriend, might have a fun time with the friends they brought, they might have a foreigner buy them drinks and dance with them, and / or they might find a foreign man they 'like' or are 'attracted to' enough to sleep with him. Money might be mentioned before the act, or not.

And, the higher the girl is on the social spectrum due to looks, education etc etc, then the more options she has and the less offers she 'needs' to accept I. E. The more-selective she can be. She is NOT a full time or even part-time working girl. She will go with a guy she 'likes' and if he wants to slip her some money on her way out, then even better. But she will often soak the guy upfront for drinks, dinner etc for her and sometimes her friends and often for a few nights. Then if she bones the guy and he doesn't offer money, then she was still respected by the guy.

Going in to HiSo and flat out treating a higher-end girl like a wh*re by saying 'lets go', you are to face certain rejection. That will work with lower end girls though as they have fewer options, are often more desparate for cash as they are older, have kids, get offered money for sex less often, and have fewer guys giving them funds / gifts etc etc.

I imagine what is going on is you guys are approaching average or below girls and saying 'lets go'. Any above-average to upper end girl is to need so much more.

Hell, take a bottom dweller girl from HiSo, give her a 500 p note, and take her in the crapper in the men's room at Hi So, and bend her over the toilet. I bet some will go for it!!

Yet, I had to wine and dine a upper end girl for a few nights, including some of her friends. We had plans for a shag at my place, but she would cancel. We went through this dance for a few nights, until she made it to my room and then I discover she isn't sexual at all. I would be better off with a hot and horny massage girl that will give BBBJ after a massage. Much more fun sexually! But the 'dance' I did with the higher end girl was fun, and I got to meet all her hot friends, and their foreign 'boyfriend' providers. I learned alot.

[QUOTE=Tagalog2016;2156884]What's wrong with Mr E attitude? He wants to get just what he pays for, without additional useless chaff. If you want to shop for a steak at a butcher shop, would you be happy, if a salesman imposed you to drink a cup of tea at your expense before you could proceed to the shopping itself? Would you be happy, if a steak said, don't grill me, I want to take a rest for a while, since I had a sleepless night at a bucher shop, before you bought me?

Some guys enjoy to combine courtship and sex, and I don't consider, there's something wrong with that. But then you should court a normal girl, because when you court a prostitute, it looks same ridiculous, as if you have courted a steak, before to eat it.[/QUOTE]Ironically, some of the fellas courting prostitutes and sending them free money are very mean and stingy when dealing with Filipino men. They stiff taxi drivers in fare disputes, fleeing into the safety of their hotel rooms. These fellas fly into rages when trikes do not take them immediately to their destination because the driver wants to finish eating his lunch of fermented duck eggs, dried fish heads, and rice. They are not the type to buy the trike driver sweet drinks and chew the fat while waiting for a ride. It is only when pussy is involved they feel the need to follow ritual generosity and let the girl take a nap because she shuffled on stage for a few hours or drank too much liquor at HiSo. For some reason, they feel a deep need to make the pussy happy before fucking it.

Frankly, they would not understand if their dinner steak asked them not to fork it for a few hours because the butcher made it too tired the previous night. Why, they would put a fork in it immediately and satiate their hunger for hot meat! The steak does not get to voice an opinion, as it lies there naked hot and juicy waiting for the fork. The customer will not tolerate steaks that need additional preparation after purchase and serving on a platter with all the fixings.

Most importantly, mongers leave their homelands, endure primitive living conditions, and long travel times because their approach at home failed to yield the desired results. Therefore, it does not make sense using the same failed approaches with the hookers in Philippine red light districts. Mongers do not need game, charm, handsome looks or eloquence to fuck in hooker joints. All that a monger requires is the ability to point, fuck, and pay. In fact, he can fuck without speaking at all. He can point at a girl's pussy, grunt, point his dick, show her a couple of blue notes, and motion to her to follow him. I know a couple of mute fellas who had no problems fucking attractive girls in Angeles City. The girls actually enjoyed spending time with them, as there were no stupid questions about their families, Pinoy boyfriends back in the province, or how many times they climaxed.

[QUOTE=VicVeg;2156988]
until she made it to my room and then I discover she isn't sexual at all. I would be better off with a hot and horny massage girl that will give BBBJ after a massage. Much more fun sexually! But the 'dance' I did with the higher end girl was fun, and I got to meet all her hot friends, and their foreign 'boyfriend' providers. I learned alot.[/QUOTE]I have found this in the west. The educated, smart girls are not exciting in bed. They spent their university days studying! The girls that partied, struggled to get money and had a great time, they are the girls for fun zone.

The girls that have more sexual encounters are likely to be better in bed.

For me, sex is likely coffee, I pay for both.

BD.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2156827]
When a chick is at a table with friends and a bunch of alcohol then she is there to party and hang out with her friends. I am not trying to step into a situation like that. I go to the club to find someone that is ready to earn something, not someone that I have to wait around for all night to finish partying. [/QUOTE]Somewhere in this forum I have previously written that the girls that are sitting at tables are not working girls or freelancers. They will be regular office work girls out for a Friday night with friends. A sex tourist looking for fun is not going very far with these girls.

Just work the girls to the left of the entrance or the girls standing that make eye contact.

BD.

[QUOTE=VicVeg;2156988]But she will often soak the guy upfront for drinks, dinner etc for her and sometimes her friends and often for a few nights.[/QUOTE]If this same thing happened back home you guys would cry about it, but in PI it is perfectly fine. I guess I really am missing it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2157035]If this same thing happened back home you guys would cry about it, but in PI it is perfectly fine. I guess I really am missing it.[/QUOTE]That's a good point.

The biggggg difference is that drinks cost $3 a hit, foods, $4 so it can actually be FUN to actually talk to people. Living large like this back in our home country is not in my budget.

For the record I have not bought a table at HiSo or Aqua. I have previously organised a few private parties at ABC Penthouse with the girls coming in to join mates and me. Always worked out well.

BD.