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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2156995] For some reason, they feel a deep need to make the pussy happy before fucking it.[/QUOTE]I think, that some mongers enjoy the process of successful courtship, because it makes them feel attractive, generous, powerful and young. Due to some reasons, such as age, physical appearance, inferiority complex etc, some people are unable, or at least are afraid to court a normal girl. They think, they have no chances whatsoever.

Prostitutes are paid to fulfill the wishes, and some men are happy to court them, imagining those girls genuinely enjoy their company.

It is very true that such guys can be mean and greedy when it comes to other affairs. They know, they can have pinay GF, who will make them feel superior, telling "mahal kita", or "lab lab" every time he buys her new smartphone, or giving her several blue banknotes. But they are too calculating. They understand, that to provide a GF will cost them much more, than to court a prostitutes. That's why they choose the latter.

No VV, I am afraid that it is you who is missing it. By "not sexual at all" you mean she wouldn't fuck, even after you invested several days worth of money and effort on her (and her friends FFS!) You got to meet all her hot friends and their boyfriends. Wow. That must have been entertaining (and wallet lightening! I learned a lot. What exactly? I hope it was that you vowed not to do it again but somehow I doubt it.

As for offering 5000 pisos or risk having the "hottie" turn her back on you. What better way to get rid of the princess with her head up her ass who may or may not fuck you after 4 or 5 days or trying to butter her up. I'll keep the 5 grand and have three at 1500 a pop thank you very much. In your words, much more fun sexually. And spend the extra 500 on a steak, for myself!

Sometimes I have to wonder when I get on the plane am I actually going to the same AC as everybody else or some "alternate" AC!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2156827]
When a chick is at a table with friends and a bunch of alcohol then she is there to party and hang out with her friends. I am not trying to step into a situation like that. I go to the club to find someone that is ready to earn something, not someone that I have to wait around for all night to finish partying. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2157035]If this same thing happened back home you guys would cry about it, but in PI it is perfectly fine. I guess I really am missing it.[/QUOTE]I think you are 'missing' it because you are not approaching the same girls as VicVeg. You are looking for the type that is willing to go with you right away. He's looking for the type (the hotties or at least prettier ones) that requires more 'work'.

[QUOTE=VicVeg;2156814]I am not a troll.[/QUOTE]Looking at your recent posts I would indeed say you are not a troll. My apologies.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2157013]Somewhere in this forum I have previously written that the girls that are sitting at tables are not working girls or freelancers. They will be regular office work girls out for a Friday night with friends. A sex tourist looking for fun is not going very far with these girls.

Just work the girls to the left of the entrance or the girls standing that make eye contact.

BD.[/QUOTE]To be honest I doubt there are 'good' girls coming to HiSo for a night out. There must be better options for them in a big town like AC than a place in the middle of the red light district. Really 'good' girls wouldn't want to be found dead in HiSo.

[QUOTE=VicVeg;2156814]I am not a troll. I am a 'life engineer' actually. I live in the world of statistics and averages. Yes, there are some hotties in High Society, but are usually with a group of girls, and guys, and are very unapproachable. And they are not just 'giving it away'. If you go up to them and ask for short time etc. , they will scoff and walk away. They want to be treated like the hottie they are. They will want you to chat them up, treat them nice, buy them and their friends drinks, and if you are only a tourist, ie you don't live in AC, you will have to step up your game even more to be with them. They want the long term 'sugar daddy' to see around town time and time again, and not just the one time shag. They make a life out of being in the AC 'elite' social scene of attractive girls hanging around foreigners who have money and are willing to spend it on them. And many hot girls will not be with just any man. I got into a group of hot girls once in AC and one of the really hot girls sat in Hi So and guy after guy came by and checked her out and she would usually turn her head and look away, ie 'not for all the pesos in your bank account'. She could afford to act like that. She still had dates, nice clothes and probably didn't work a job to pay for it all.

Anyway, my point is there are hot girls in Hi So, but they are hit or miss, and to be alot of work. At a minimum, you are into it for a night of talking, drinking, dancing and paying for her friends. If you just walk up and ask for a shag, you had better offer 5 k pesos or more if you want a chance. Offer the standard 1. 5 and you will get a scoff and her back turned real fast.

Most of the girls, probably 80% or more in Hi So, are average at best. The type you would see in the bars that wouldn't get much attention. They will take 1500 pesos with no dance, drama or talk required. They will often approach you. Unless you look like a young Brad Pitt with blue peso notes hanging out of your pocket, forget about an elite hottie in Hi So ever approaching you.

So please don't consider me a troll. I am talking about averages in Hi So. And most are NOT elite. Most are flawed. Old, fat, 4 kids, missing teeth, cut throat etc etc. So be on your guard when mongering in Hi So![/QUOTE]I don't know how many times you've been to AC, but I'm thinking you don't quite get it. You are still experiencing your post holiday euphoria. You talk about high end girls at HiSo. I don't think they exist. AC is not Manila. My definition of a high end hooker is someone who looks like a model, is from a big city and charges 10-15K. Also, your posts are hard to follow as they are too long. Unless you can write as eloquently as Choca Monger or Mr E, best to keep it nice and short

If feeding hookers dry aged wagyu steaks is working for you in AC, then keep going. No one is trying to stop you. Peace man

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2157182]To be honest I doubt there are 'good' girls coming to HiSo for a night out. There must be better options for them in a big town like AC than a place in the middle of the red light district. Really 'good' girls wouldn't want to be found dead in HiSo.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2157193]You talk about high end girls at HiSo. I don't think they exist. AC is not Manila. My definition of a high end hooker is someone who looks like a model, is from a big city and charges 10-15K. [/QUOTE]Both quotes are accurate and essentially say the same thing.

High end girls do not go to the a*hole of the universe aka AC to meet guys. They don't go to clubs to meet random hook-ups either. They are known to the big punters who are high-rollers, and they go for 1000 USD, not php. The majority of the top-class girls at the high-end clubs in Manila are there to party with friends, and are not interested in horny mongers unless you are some sort of celebrity.

High end hookers on the other hand are also very selective and you need to have a good bulge in your pocket (hip pocket that is) to get to first base with them. I know one girl who operates in BGC area who will not go with anyone for less than 30,000 php. That's her fixed fee, and she is always booked.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2157212]Both quotes are accurate and essentially say the same thing.

High end girls do not go to the a*hole of the universe aka AC to meet guys. They don't go to clubs to meet random hook-ups either. They are known to the big punters who are high-rollers, and they go for 1000 USD, not php. The majority of the top-class girls at the high-end clubs in Manila are there to party with friends, and are not interested in horny mongers unless you are some sort of celebrity.

High end hookers on the other hand are also very selective and you need to have a good bulge in your pocket (hip pocket that is) to get to first base with them. I know one girl who operates in BGC area who will not go with anyone for less than 30,000 php. That's her fixed fee, and she is always booked.[/QUOTE]I am not saying these girls are High End for the PI, but just high end for AC. Yes, they are a step down from the high end girls in Makati. But Makati isn't full of cheap charlie, low end punters, and fixed-income retirees.

Some of the 'players' that come to AC, ie One Week Millionaires, will float the High End Girl's boat just fine. I think most of the High End girls in AC have foreign providers that send them money each month so they can have sole access to them when they visit every few months. I met a girl who had a korean provider but partied with foreign men for some freebies and / or extra pesos. Thus, they can entertain lower end punters at Hi Soif they need some extra cash or free drinks etc.

There are some good girls in Hi So that are not exactly 'High End / High Class' girls. These are the very cute yet very young girls. They usually have friends with them. I thought about approaching one, but don't want to feel like a horrible perv moving on a girl 30 years younger than me. And I would worry about her being [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] (having her older sisters ID to get into Hi So). Just walking a 17 year old girl back to your hotel will land you in jail if the cop wants to make a thing about it. This all makes them not worth the risk / perv factor. Yes, they look good, and are to be little work compared to the High End girls who have GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome), but who wants a trip to the local lockup, where you could be some other guys 'happy ending' LOL.

[QUOTE=VicVeg;2157415]There are some good girls in Hi So that are not exactly 'High End / High Class' girls. These are the very cute yet very young girls. They usually have friends with them. I thought about approaching one, but don't want to feel like a horrible perv[/QUOTE]Just to split hairs Vic, 99 out of 100 of the chicks that go inside of High Society have friends with them.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2157182]To be honest I doubt there are 'good' girls coming to HiSo for a night out. There must be better options for them in a big town like AC than a place in the middle of the red light district. Really 'good' girls wouldn't want to be found dead in HiSo.[/QUOTE]WHO SAID "regular office work girls" are good girls?

Good girls. Bad girls! Anyone bang any lately? If so, when, where and what you paid? Just the facts please. Only report on your own dick please.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2157480]Good girls. Bad girls! Anyone bang any lately? If so, when, where and what you paid? Just the facts please. Only report on your own dick please.[/QUOTE]I'm in the US and watch filipino porn for free, and often fantasize about the 7 chix I boned in AC during the ten days I was there last month LOL. And I got a few HJs and 3 BBBJs from a massage girl that was also a blowjob artist LOL. I think I paid for her rent for the next 6 months, but did get to butter her tonsils 3 times.

When are they to invent the teleporter like in Star Trek? If I could transport myself to AC, I would be there from Friday to Sunday everyweek, and would be alot more broke, and probably have a few more STDs LOL. I love AC, but hate the 14 hour flight from the US to Korea. It is inhumane treatment for a friendly monger that loves pussy and can't get any quality P'tang in the USA, ie the Land of the Hippos. Hell, even the filipinos that live in the USA are often hippos.

[QUOTE=VicVeg;2157415]I am not saying these girls are High End for the PI, but just high end for AC. Yes, they are a step down from the high end. But Makati isn't full of cheap charlie, low end punters, and fixed-income retirees.

Some of the 'players' that come to AC, ie One Week Millionaires, will float the High End Girl's boat just fine. I think most of the High End girls in AC have foreign providers that send them money each month so they can have sole access to them when they visit every few months. I met a girl who had a korean provider but partied with foreign men for some freebies and / or extra pesos. Thus, they can entertain lower end punters at Hi Soif they need some extra cash or free drinks etc.

There are some good girls in Hi So that are not exactly 'High End / High Class' girls. These are the very cute yet very young girls. They usually have friends with them. I thought about approaching one, but don't want to feel like a horrible perv moving on a girl 30 years younger than me.[/QUOTE]Mate, you're not telling us anything new here.

1. Makati does have its share of low end punters. Plenty of FLs, LBs and massage girls on Burgos will come for 1500 PHP.

2. Even the 1,800 PHP barfine girl on the perimeter at AC will have a foreign boyfriend sending her money. Nothing unusual about this. They don’t need to be high class to have a sponsor or frequent HiSo

3. The usual age of punters to AC is between 45-65. Most of them are old enough to be the fathers or grandfathers of the girls. So your comment about looking like a perv approaching a chick 30 years younger than you doesn't hold water.

4. Many former bargirls chose to be FLs at HiSo or Aqua or on the street because they don't like the discipline.

5. There's absolutely nothing high class about AC, and we should move on to more about P4 P.

[QUOTE=Tagalog2016;2155257]That is very typical situation, when pinays pretend to be a good girls, but recon to milk a foreigner in the long run. They are very gifted liars and can sound very convincing when it comes to amorous affairs. Some people lose their vigilance, thinking their girls are time-tested, and that's a good thing, you managed to stop.

By the way the horniest of pinays are more inclined to cheat. Some girls told me, that their Pinoy BFs were capable to perform 9-12 rounds per day, and that considers a norm in Philippines. So it is unlikely, that a typical westerner can surprise Filipina with his sexual performance, when it comes to a number. It's never enough for them, and their horniness encourages them to look for other sex partners.[/QUOTE]Even some of 18 to 26-year-old USA Marines on rotations at peak fitness levels have problems belting out 12 fucks daily without blue diamonds. They opt to gangbang their little Flip fuck monsters with their friends just to keep them somewhat satisfied.

Pinays refer to their extreme horniness as a "kati" or itch deep in their pussy that needs a hard cock to scratch it constantly. Many middle-aged and elderly mongers perspire and expire in their efforts to scratch their little fuck monster's itch satisfactorily. Their clocks run out before they complete drilling, caulking and evacuating her moist mineshaft.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2154546]A clean pussy has neutral smell. Depending on race some pussies has a different smell but any noxious smell is attributed to some infection. Many of the STD will not show outward symptoms in women or men. Assuming bar girls have no std just because the pussy does not have any smell is naive.[/QUOTE]One fella told me that if the pussy looks good smells good, he eats it! No questions asked. He said it was like eating stinky cheese, the smell is part of the experience.