Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[QUOTE=Superman06]You're probably right about my over-analysing. I too have been editing my profile to make it clear that I'm only looking for a short term friend to spend time with while I'm here for two weeks.

All the same DIA is amazing. I have chatted with several ladies over the past two days. Some of the scammers are a little too obvious. The advice here on what to expect and how to make best use of DIA has been more than helpful.[/QUOTE]


Another free site that some guys have found very useful is person.com it is focussed on web cams I find it overcomplicated and never really got the hang of it, but an ozzie guy i met generated alot of hot contacts on it as well as lots of cam fun

Hey there Superman. All that I wrote was just an observation. I would much rather have 1 real message than an inbox full of BS. In fact that was my intent, I just didn't expect to see such a sharp reduction so quickly.

Bob


[QUOTE=Superman06]So, what do you want? Quantity or Quality? Do you want 8 to 12 bull Sh*t messages from scammers or one quality message every three days? Hmmm...
Quality doesn't come in high volume.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]I just didn't expect to see such a sharp reduction so quickly.[/QUOTE]
I think you just come across as an untrusting psycho hater. Just like the girls who put in "DONT MSG ME IF ALL YOU WANT IS SEX!"

I am sure there are independent girls who want a nice husband with no intent to provide support to family. There may even be 10 or 20 in the country. lol Not really, I saw on the theworldoffilipinas forum a poll that suggested about 10% or so of fhil-am couples did not send any money home. (but maybe she does anyway directly from her own bank account)

If you are sincere, maybe try a more sincere approach. Look at what some girls put. Thinks like, "I am sincerely looking for my soulmate"

I am not a DIA virgin anymore. Met my frist girl.

Because I wanted the opposite of a bar girl, I picked up a lady in her early 30's who's an executive here in Manila. Her english was perfect even had an american accent, and cleary she was at ease at the Penisula, came to the place with her own car, so I'm quite sure she's really an executive from the upper middle class from Manila. I had already a good feeling as her spelling was perfect on Dia vs girls that spell "like" "lyk" or that kind of stuff.

That's exactly the opposite of a bar girl as she had clever conversation and I had really a good time.

She told me she had to pick up her younger brother (who kept sms'ing her) when the dinner started.

So after dinner (6,000 PHP heh) she excused herself.

Overall a pleasant evening because the conversation was interesting and quite different from the other Philippines girls I had met before.

Some might think what a rip off, he shelled out 6K for a dinner and didn't even score. Yeah well that's not even 100 Euros so that's ok.

However, what did I do wrong because I want to improve my dia skills:)

1- should I be more straight about me wanting sex? I see it tricky for the girl to commit having sex with a 2cm x 2cm picture of a guy that might not even represent what the guy is really like

2- should I go for less sophisticated girls, because this high maintenance girl didn't strike me as the kind that would sleep on the frist night.

So I'm waiting for tips from DIA veterans.

[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]Hey there Superman. All that I wrote was just an observation. I would much rather have 1 real message than an inbox full of BS. In fact that was my intent, I just didn't expect to see such a sharp reduction so quickly.
Bob[/QUOTE]
Well Bob, I've also gotten a real drop in messages. Unlike you I'm just looking for a few short time "friends". I edit my intro on a daily basis and make it clearer with each edit what I am seeking. I may be too clear. I probably need to pull back a bit. I think for them saving face is everything.

BTW I hope you don't think I was breaking your balls, because I wasn't. I think your taking the right path for finding a life long partner. Good luck in your quest.

@Towelboy
One reason of the decline in messages is that when you are new on DiA, there will be a "new"-sign on your profile when the ladies do their searching. After some days (I dont know how many days) the sign will disappear, making you a regular (or pro if u like), hence not that interesting to the scammers that are looking for fresh meat.

My only problem now will be that the ladies will ask if I have several profiles in DiA because of you he he he... I will deny until hell freezes, and say someone must have stolen my line :D

[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]
I thought that my new introduction would chase away the scammers. It did indeed, but not only the scammers - all the others have vanished as well!!??? Rather than the usual 8-12 messages a day, I got 1 in the last 3 days!!!

Bob[/QUOTE]

I have recently been writing to the ones who say "married or attached". Their profiles say looking for "friends only" but I find it interesting that they are on a site like DIA and looking for men friends.

I am currently chatting with a very pretty 40 yo who claims to be "happily married". I actually met her in a somewhat clandestine meeting 2 weeks ago in a fancy restaurant, chosen by her as she felt that none of her friends would see her with another guy. She was nervous and had to be home by 9pm as her hubby works until 9 pm. Nothing happened at all during the dinner, but since then she has been sending me lots of messages offline and we have chatted a few times too. She is asking when I will visit her city again as she hopes we can meet again.

It is very interesting to me. When we chat she keeps saying how much she enjoys our chats but around 9pm she always has to end the chat because "Sorry - my hubby is home now so I have to go". She is a nice person and we get on very well, and she has told me how her hubby is her childhood sweetheart since she was 16 and he is the only boyfriend and lover that she has ever had.

I suspect that she is torn between being a good and faithful wife and having a last fling before she gets much older, and she is curious to sample another guy too. She also knows that I am divorced, yet she still keeps in touch with me and is now starting to make flirtatious comments about our next meeting follwed by the usual "hahaha" or LOL as though it is a joke but I know she is not really joking. At some stage soon I will increase the tempo and start making specific comments about the next meeting and ask her to arrange to stay out longer and not have to rush home. The option of a daytime meeting is also "on the table".

I have been long and detailed in this post to show you that "married or attached" women on a dating site will always want to appear as though they just want "friends" but they must be missing something in their lives if they are on DIA. I have 2 others on the chat list too - one is very keen to meet but in a more difficult city to reach (for me anyway) and cannot travel to meet me, and the other one is in the early stages of contact.

I will keep you updated.

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[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I am not a DIA virgin anymore. Met my frist girl.

Because I wanted the opposite of a bar girl, I picked up a lady in her early 30's who's an executive here in Manila. Her english was perfect even had an american accent, and cleary she was at ease at the Penisula, came to the place with her own car, so I'm quite sure she's really an executive from the upper middle class from Manila. I had already a good feeling as her spelling was perfect on Dia vs girls that spell "like" "lyk" or that kind of stuff.

That's exactly the opposite of a bar girl as she had clever conversation and I had really a good time.

She told me she had to pick up her younger brother (who kept sms'ing her) when the dinner started.

So after dinner (6,000 PHP heh) she excused herself.

Overall a pleasant evening because the conversation was interesting and quite different from the other Philippines girls I had met before.

Some might think what a rip off, he shelled out 6K for a dinner and didn't even score. Yeah well that's not even 100 Euros so that's ok.

However, what did I do wrong because I want to improve my dia skills:)

1- should I be more straight about me wanting sex? I see it tricky for the girl to commit having sex with a 2cm x 2cm picture of a guy that might not even represent what the guy is really like

2- should I go for less sophisticated girls, because this high maintenance girl didn't strike me as the kind that would sleep on the frist night.

So I'm waiting for tips from DIA veterans.[/QUOTE]
You made a newbie mistake. You can easily meet many girls for casual date if you are ready to spend money. But the main purpose of searching for atleast most of us is to get sex from non-working girls.
I have been successfull in getting laid few times although some are only ready to meet for casual date. It is always better to ask if they are willing to stay with you in the hotel. If they say yes it will mean sex.
It is impossible to distinguish sophisticated girls and others. If you are looking for a steady relationship it is not easy to find a good girl in DIA because irrespective of what they say it is difficult to find out their past.

[QUOTE=Sammon]You made a newbie mistake. You can easily meet many girls for casual date if you are ready to spend money. But the main purpose of searching for atleast most of us is to get sex from non-working girls.

I have been successfull in getting laid few times although some are only ready to meet for casual date. It is always better to ask if they are willing to stay with you in the hotel. If they say yes it will mean sex.

It is impossible to distinguish sophisticated girls and others. If you are looking for a steady relationship it is not easy to find a good girl in DIA because irrespective of what they say it is difficult to find out their past.[/QUOTE]She wasn't "working girl" as in escort or prostitute. She was a curious girl not in need of money. (or at least it seems I don't know many WG's who have an executive job, a classy sense of fashion, own a car, and rent a descent condo in makati).

You ask girl if she's ok to stay at the hotel before meeting her?

A girl that promises to fuck with a guy based on a small pic from DIA and 3 messages exchanged must be desperate, can we only score desperate girls?:)

On a side note tonight many girls in burgos told me they are on DIA and FH so what's the point of scoring them online rather than picking them up on location! (except saving the BF cost!).

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I am not a DIA virgin anymore. Met my frist girl.

Because I wanted the opposite of a bar girl, I picked up a lady in her early 30's who's an executive here in Manila. Her english was perfect even had an american accent, and cleary she was at ease at the Penisula, came to the place with her own car, so I'm quite sure she's really an executive from the upper middle class from Manila. I had already a good feeling as her spelling was perfect on Dia vs girls that spell "like" "lyk" or that kind of stuff.

That's exactly the opposite of a bar girl as she had clever conversation and I had really a good time.

She told me she had to pick up her younger brother (who kept sms'ing her) when the dinner started.

So after dinner (6,000 PHP heh) she excused herself.

Overall a pleasant evening because the conversation was interesting and quite different from the other Philippines girls I had met before.

Some might think what a rip off, he shelled out 6K for a dinner and didn't even score. Yeah well that's not even 100 Euros so that's ok.

However, what did I do wrong because I want to improve my dia skills:)

1- should I be more straight about me wanting sex? I see it tricky for the girl to commit having sex with a 2cm x 2cm picture of a guy that might not even represent what the guy is really like

2- should I go for less sophisticated girls, because this high maintenance girl didn't strike me as the kind that would sleep on the frist night.

So I'm waiting for tips from DIA veterans.[/QUOTE]


Each of us is probably looking for something slightly different in terms of type of girl / ease with which sex happens / time frame etc

The type of girl that i tend to target is 18-25, college student, had a few phil BFs but maybe no or just one or two foreign guys. I like girls I feel I can trust and have decent conversations with and who are not looking for a LTR with me but rather to gain experience/ earn a little cash. Ideally I like girls who are willing to play with other girls as well as me.

Of course each one is different, but i find that this type of girl can become a genuine friend as well as sexual partner and give real sex which she enjoys as much as me. Very different from the typical bar girl experience.

Before meeting i try and find out A) whether she looks good enough through pics cam /tagged/friendster pics etc B) whether she has had a baby C) whether she is open minded enough to visit me at my hotel and if we like each other have sex and whether she finds my "high sex drive" a problem or not D) that she is clear I'm looking for a fun friends and not a serious GF/wife

My strategy is to say let's meet up at my hotel and see how we get on and then if we get on well then yes we can go out to dinner /order some food. of course in the west one would expect to wine and dine a girl before fucking her but this is the Phils - different rules apply - and for the vast majority of DIA girls a pizza or Jollybees is a treat a 6000P meal is a ludicrous luxury

I have a friend who met a girl in Cebu on DIA and she is a good 8 in looks and non-pro (:D) He has been seeing and supporting her for two months. He likes to have one girl and he is happy with supporting one girl. He told me yesterday that he had to break it off because he found out that she is married and living with her husband:( and yet she would stay up to three days with him when he went to Cebu (last month 4 visits).

OIP
Robb

[QUOTE=Robbaf]I have a friend who met a girl in Cebu on DIA and she is a good 8 in looks and non-pro (:D) He has been seeing and supporting her for two months. He likes to have one girl and he is happy with supporting one girl. He told me yesterday that he had to break it off because he found out that she is married and living with her husband:( and yet she would stay up to three days with him when he went to Cebu (last month 4 visits).

OIP
Robb[/QUOTE]


Hahaha... nothing surprises me about them Pinas anymore!

YM

Escort Fan -- What a marvelous story about the executive lady. I envy you. Now there is some mystery in the air: will the boy pursue/get the girl or what happens? This is priceless, worth much more as an experience than a couple of expensive meals.
Our hobby being what it is make us lose our innocence, just like bar girls do the longer are in the business. So see where this will take you. Nice to hear about human moments.

[QUOTE=Vittu]Escort Fan. What a marvelous story about the executive lady. I envy you. Now there is some mystery in the air: will the boy pursue/get the girl or what happens? This is priceless, worth much more as an experience than a couple of expensive meals.

Our hobby being what it is make us lose our innocence, just like bar girls do the longer are in the business. So see where this will take you. Nice to hear about human moments.[/QUOTE]After Boracay I will return to Manila and book another lady and will report!

Well I got blueballed as my american friend would say, but I have no regrets it was certainly an interesting evening from a sociologial point of view even though I would understand sociology might not be everyone's cup of tea.

I have struck up several chat pals on DIA over the past few weeks. As I get closer to my arrival date in Cebu, three have offered to meet me at the airport. They want to know my flight number and and what hotel I'm staying at. I've told all that I would call them the day after my arrival. This is after all a 23 hour trip for me and I will likely be dead to the world for a day or so. Of course I don't give them the requested information and have even lied about my arrival day. Some have even tried to guilt me with they don't want to bother me if I don't like them blah, blah,blah. I'm thinking about avoiding them all together and stick with bar fines. I have though enjoyed chatting with some of them. :)