German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

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[QUOTE=Mr Ho; 1507974]Hmmm there must be some girls at German fkk who got jobs there normally though? Or do I believe in too much of their life stories? LOL.[/QUOTE]There are definitely FKK girls who decided to work there voluntarily and are not being exploited. However there are also guys who prey on these girls too and try to exploit them, sometimes successfully. I am finding that there are less of these girls in the clubs now and this is probably linked to the political concern about rising levels of coercion, leading to new legislative proposals. I am as a consequence visiting the clubs less and trying to find more enthusiastic girls in London. There are actually plenty of English (and sometimes Australian etc.) girls here who have normal lives but want to earn a bit of extra cash and have some fun at the same time, but it is a bit harder to find them than just turning up at an FKK club.[/QUOTE]I would think it's most likely that girls like that exist at the NRW, but as I do not know what goes behind the curtains I cannot say for certain. For starters, many new girls at the NRW, typically girls start there, and less tatoos.

For example, I have heard girls say that they do not like to work at Magnum for reasons of men that shows up late at night. I have heard girls from Mondial say this and other girls. When I was in Magnum one day, there was this German girl that was ok with my company. I sensed she was a normal girl without a pimp. Close to closing time, she told me to hang around with her so she doesn't have to deal with the Turkish men there. Also, girl at Mondial tells me there are different types of Turkish men that comes to Magnum, and they point to the ones with mohawks. Mondial girls tell me Turkish men at Mondial are typical Turkish men that don't cause any trouble.

Also GT is one of those clubs that has a policy to not let certain men in. I'm not exactly sure of the reasons, but I believe it could be possibly related to reducing trouble and for the girls. They might have a history of trouble with certain types of men. So that means, this action would fend off any gang members or pimps or the like. It is quite racist that the management profiles men. That doesn't mean that the girls at GT are not pimped, but I would think this club has the most safest environment for the girls and probably has the girls with least likely of being pimped. Least likely that girls will be coerced there, and if you notice the desk ladies are former prostitutes, I'm sure they know what goes on in the business.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker; 1508401]I would think it's most likely that girls like that exist at the NRW, but as I do not know what goes behind the curtains I cannot say for certain. For starters, many new girls at the NRW, typically girls start there, and less tatoos.

For example, I have heard girls say that they do not like to work at Magnum for reasons of men that shows up late at night. I have heard girls from Mondial say this and other girls. When I was in Magnum one day, there was this German girl that was ok with my company. I sensed she was a normal girl without a pimp. Close to closing time, she told me to hang around with her so she doesn't have to deal with the Turkish men there. Also, girl at Mondial tells me there are different types of Turkish men that comes to Magnum, and they point to the ones with mohawks. Mondial girls tell me Turkish men at Mondial are typical Turkish men that don't cause any trouble..[/QUOTE]Some of the desk ladies are former prostitutes? This is new news to me LOL! I mean I became kinda familiar with some of them, not at GT as I only went there one time, but Artemis and I never thought these ladies are former prostitute, but now that you pointed out and think about it. With tattoo and all that, it is possible, but they are so so nice.

I never witnessed pimps in clubs, but I did read on forum thread here and there that there some times are pimps in FKK. Personally never seen one.

However, I do know that some girls I met have pimp or related guy who is equivalent to pimp. Most famous one was Abdul tattoo girls which was topic of many forum threads and I did meet and went to room with some of these girls in FKK Palace and Artemis. I asked them about tattoo and they told me it is boyfriends name and it is Morrocan guy. Sometime later, another girl told me that this guy is two brothers, morrocan guy living in majorca. Then this summer I read this article about these guys arrest in Majorca (I put a link before here of article) and one of the guy who got arrested was Abudul something. This article rang bell inside my head. It may not be the same guy but I know for the fact that some girls at fkk have boyfriends who has bit shady back ground. So called almost pimp. And none of the girls I met were from less developed nation, but all these girls were Germans. Well like I said, it was mistake of youth that kind of dragged on.

FKK is tough place for girls to end up, but if you play the right card, FKK could be key to their blight future of some kind. So I really hope that girls who are in fkk will see this as tough, but opportunity to make money to begin their second life after fkk instead of giving their hard working money to someone else. They already pay enough tax to government that is already enough. In away I have pimp too as I pay almost 50% tax to my government LOL So in this sense I am in the same situation as these girls, it is just that my pimp is my government LOL and this pimp is too strong for me to beat, so I pay with tax, how many crazy sessions I could have in FKK LOL this thought make me angry LOL!

[QUOTE=Ableyone; 1508178]The Orthodox Christmas Day falls on the 7th January so the Bulgarian, Romanian, Greek, Spanish and Italian girls may still be around. .

Also next year the Orthodox and Western church Easters coincide.[/QUOTE]I would say also Hungarians as well bacause they are not orthodox nation I think? But a lot of Hungarian girls go home very often with my experience, so they may go home for Christmas and part of January.

[QUOTE=Mr Ho;1508409]I never witnessed pimps in clubs,[/QUOTE]You may not have recognized them, they do not necessarily comply with the stereotype of a pimp.

GT and other NRW clubs do not have less or more trafficked / pimped / managed girls than other clubs in Hessen or Bavaria. What GT does have more compared to other clubs is drugs, may it be pot or cocaine.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1508528]You may not have recognized them, they do not necessarily comply with the stereotype of a pimp.

GT and other NRW clubs do not have less or more trafficked / pimped / managed girls than other clubs in Hessen or Bavaria. What GT does have more compared to other clubs is drugs, may it be pot or cocaine.

HB[/QUOTE]I did not witness or recognize these guys, but ok they are around in club then. It is strange why some girls even bother to pay their part of hard earned income to these guys.

As for medications. This I saw and smell sometimes even in major fkk like Artemis, but most of these guy who does it do that outside rather discretely so it is fine by me. But girls also told me there are some clients who ask them if they can take certain substances in the room.

Either way, I never saw or witness any negative events in any fkk whether fight or even arguments. Even though I know these things do happen as I read them on german newspaper and also I hear from girls.

Considering what happened in Artemis last year (big fight with electric guns). Some clubs should consider metal detecter at the door. However, thanks god at least what I know nothing bad really ever happened to girls in any of major fkk. Girls have their down and up in fkk, but I never heard any really bad things happening to girls in major fkk.

However, I hear that in Artemis, there was a client who refuse to pay the girl after long hours of session and got into big arguments downstairs after the session with managements etc. Apparently this client who refuse to pay was so rude and lied about what happened in the room that girl punched him on the nose LOL and the guys nose was broken LOL, she got punished by the club which was few months banned from the club. ;. (with this event, I am with the girl, I mean these girls (those who are not shark) work so so hard to get this money, so I am always so appreciative for the time they given me after session, so if the girl was right, I am with the girls side on this one, good punch! LOL I heard this from not this punching girl, but from the friend of hers.

Many things seems to happen in German fkk beside sex LOL.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1508528]You may not have recognized them, they do not necessarily comply with the stereotype of a pimp.

GT and other NRW clubs do not have less or more trafficked / pimped / managed girls than other clubs in Hessen or Bavaria. What GT does have more compared to other clubs is drugs, may it be pot or cocaine.

HB[/QUOTE]I agree with the part that not all pimps comply with the stereotype of a pimp as a girl at GT told me there are some handsome lookin men that recruits girls or some that are not, so it can be anybody with the right charm. What I like to know is where you are getting your stats on the second statement. If no stats, at-least some reasons to back up your claims would be convincing.

Here is one, when I was at the world, there was a gentleman that a few girls was hanging around with slobbering all over him and grinding on him in the main lounge. A buddy who knows all the girls there told me he is a drug dealer.

I have a couple of girls who have quit the fkk business who I continue to see from time to time. They tell me lots of stories about what goes on "behind the scenes." I hear lots of stories about overhead conversations in the locker rooms. From these observations, it would seem that most of the girls, even at Oase, have a pimp, manager, or a boyfriend who takes all of their money. Yes, there are independent girls, but these independents are not so numerous. Exact statistics are tough. Especially since none of this is black and white, but rather, many of these "relationships" fall on a continuum / spectrum. What is the difference between a boyfriend who lives off the girl's wages and "manages" her money for her versus a pimp?

My girls have no reason to fabricate as they don't work in the FKKs anymore. They are just relaying stories of what they saw and heard in the locker room from back when they used to be in the business.

It's funny how each and every girl you go to the room with will swear up and down that they don't have a boyfriend or a pimp, but in fact, most of them do.

Yeah, once the girls start telling stories you'll find most of them will have something you would consider a pimp. The ones that will tell you about this will call him their boyfriend; I've only had one girl tell me about a 'taking all my money' pimp; and that was after she fled from him and changed clubs on the downlow. One of my girlfriendliest girls has always been very open about her boyfriend (might be one of the reason we are so over the top 'in love' in the club; she knows I fake it just as much as she does). So now I know of a whole group of girls (most of which I actually fucked) that are from the same village and all their boyfriends are either related or mates; with my girl's boyfriend driving them around (we know what that means). These girls are spread over a handfull of clubs from NRW to Hessen and they all admit to knowing each other (and even sharing appartments) ; except that all these other girls are single, really.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1508565]Here is one, when I was at the world, there was a gentleman that a few girls was hanging around with slobbering all over him and grinding on him in the main lounge. A buddy who knows all the girls there told me he is a drug dealer.[/QUOTE]Here is another one. I heard that there is a girl that makes more money selling drugs to the other girls than she does by servicing customers.

Also if you search the Golden Time thread you can see references from customers who take drugs in Golden Time.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1508565]Here is one, when I was at the world, there was a gentleman that a few girls was hanging around with slobbering all over him and grinding on him in the main lounge. A buddy who knows all the girls there told me he is a drug dealer.[/QUOTE]Hahaha This is partly I enjoy fkk LOL Because, Look, I fly in all the way from Tokyo just for FKK right? If you think about it, and I think it is quite insane to travel half the way around the world to have 7 to 12 days of straight sex after sex with girls from all over European cities and tiny tiny suburb villages of Europe I never heard of LOL And I am not only fly in Punter as there are many guys in this forum also who fly all the way to Germany just for or mainly for FKK, this is insane thing to do LOL

On the other hand, we got regulars from the local area with all sort of legit occupations, then we also got this drug dealers or pimps etc. Man FKK on the real is like Mayhem and Heaven put together LOL

This Boyfriend / pimp thing is quite stupid of girls who made the choice to be on their hand. She is working for this money and why give it away. And what to manage for her if the whole prostitution business is legal and legit in Germany? I say this as most of these girls who I met and had pimp were German girls. I mean if it is foreign girls from Less developed country, I could understand that first she needed a pimp like agency who can organize thing for her in Germany to get her started and also rend her money so that she can travel to Germany to begin her fkk job. But with German girls. They could just walk in near by FKK and apply. Why need management. As for security. All major fkk has very good security and these security guys are nice guys both to clients and girls, so I don't know why german girls are in need of pimp kinda guy to manage thing for them? Manage what?

Buy maybe these girls need mental support. I cannot say all of these girls are from happy back ground family wise. So maybe pimp manage girls mental state and make them happy as they can be mentally? Or it was this at the beginning and it kind of dragged on.

You cannot trust all the girls story at FKK, but when you go for same girls for few years and you become real long time regular and you are nice to her, she eventually open up a bit and tell you thing. Most of them have some crazy back ground. However, I cannot generalize this by race, but most Hungarians / Czech girls tend to have more soft core stories in general, but this is more of my personal experience.

One time, I went with this german girls, I think she was like 19 or 20 years old not more than 21 for sure, she was cute type, but she had quite few tattoos, so I was talking with her about each tattoo, you know just making some conversation before the session in the room. She had this tattoo of sharp knife on her wrist, so I asked her "why knife tattoo on the wrist?" Then she replied that "my father killed himself with knife cutting his wrist, so I put tattoo of knife here to remember him". I mean you can just imagine how hard for me to have erection after that. Only time I thought I needed viagra LOL, but she was very nice girl and good session after. But this is one of my heavy moment of fkk experience.

I have many stories like this in FKK, I also had another one who began to tell me her story and there was a part when she went "my dream when I was young was to become make up artist" then she began to cry. I mean I did not know how to react this one after too. As this one too was during the chat before the session in room so. I mean so many stories in fkk,

Of course some are BS, but I try to judge who are telling the truth or not, but I do believe some of the things some of these girls tells me.

No one want to suck dick of rondom strangers. So it is no surprise that there are some hardcore stories behind. Knowing this, I try to be nice as I can be to the girls, as I know all of them have stories. Sometimes I hear some bad room session where the clients are not so nice to the girls and I am against that, I think we should all treat these girls with resect as much as we can. Yes we pay but they are human in the end and not products.

However. When I meet bad bad girls, who up sell in very bad way (I do not mind up sell as long as session is solid good and promised when I agree to up sell) , then excuse my miss, but I punish her with Woodman style session LOL and never go with her again.

[QUOTE=Ultrahappy;1508666]It's funny how each and every girl you go to the room with will swear up and down that they don't have a boyfriend or a pimp, but in fact, most of them do.[/QUOTE]The more I read these pimp stories the less I really want to know about the girls and their backgrounds. With working girls ignorance is bliss.

As HB once wrote: go into a club, select a girl, fuck her, pay her, get out and forget about her. And then next week the same round, lol :cool:

-Kepp

I only go to German FKKs a few times a years, but I have found the sharkiness much higher than in the Spanish clubs. Probably because of the high ratio of Romanians in Germany vs latinas in Spain. But I would also like to believe that latinas are less pimped, which is kind of stupid as I have actually met pimps and drug dealers down there. But I have met so many sweet latinas and I would hate for them to get used by lazy pimps.

Would you say that the ratio of pimped girl is it approximately the same both for the eastern European girls as for the latinas? I'm especially thinking about Gabi from Venezuela in Oase. I mean that girl is a real sweetheart. She had this big beautiful smile and actually seemed quite happy (or as happy a wg can be). I have a hard time imagine from her behaviour that she would have a pimp.

I also wonder what's the possibility of the pimps doing jail time? It would probably require that the girl reports him? From what I have read I get the impression that the girls would not appreciate a captain save-a-hoe telling the pimp to fuck off.

[QUOTE=ShooBree; 1508765]I only go to German fkk:s a few times a years, but I have found the sharkiness much higher than in the Spanish clubs. Probably because of the high ratio of Romanians in Germany vs latinas in Spain. But I would also like to believe that latinas are less pimped, which is kind of stupid as I have actually met pimps and drug dealers down there. But I have met so many sweet latinas and I would hate for them to get used by lazy pimps.

Would you say that the ratio of pimped girl is it approximately the same both for the eastern European girls as for the latinas? I'm especially thinking about Gabi from Venezuela in Oase. I mean that girl is a real sweetheart. She had this big beautiful smile and actually seemed quite happy (or as happy a wg can be). I have a hard time imagine from her behaviour that she would have a pimp.

I also wonder what's the possibility of the pimps doing jail time? It would probably require that the girl reports him? From what I have read I get the impression that the girls would not appreciate a captain save-a-hoe telling the pimp to fuck off.[/QUOTE]All the girls who has boyfriend or pimps or what the guy is name tattooed on the body, none of them were dull. In fact they were nice people, some up sell, but can take stronger sex. They seems to be happy. So I think pimp make their life full mentally. I guess they let the girls hear what girls want to hear all the time.

Well I sometimes do not know if some of these girls have the goal in life or they are just doing it for random money of youth? I mean if they take this fkk jobs seriously with no pimp or luxury around (some go and spend their cash on cars etc). And think of it as short term big cash for their long term dream, these girls can change their lives. And some really seems to be doing for university fee and also apartment so that they got place to live, able to pay tution fee and better their lives after graduation. But most of them. They seems to be just doing it as life job till they are not young anymore. Then what? I mean some of these girls are sweet hearted so I wish better for their lives. Only thing I can do for them and fuck them more and pay though LOL How ironic. I got no choice so I keep on travel half the way around the world now and then to fuck them hoping it will indirectly better their life. Irony of myself. Once I found FKK in Germany my image of Germany became merely straight sex orgy place LOL This is the only image I have of Germany when I see Germany on news or hear the word German or Germany LOL.

[QUOTE=Mr Ho;1508727]Hahaha This is partly I enjoy fkk LOL Because, Look, I fly in all the way from Tokyo just for FKK right? If you think about it, and I think it is quite insane to travel half the way around the world to have 7 to 12 days of straight sex after sex with girls from all over European cities and tiny tiny suburb villages of Europe I never heard of LOL And I am not only fly in Punter as there are many guys in this forum also who fly all the way to Germany just for or mainly for FKK, this is insane thing to do LOL[/QUOTE]Mr. Ho,

You're Japanese?

Great to find that I am not the only insane East Asian who travel so far to Germany just to fuck the white girls in FKK Clubs! LOL.

I'm Taiwanese, and I just flew all the way from Taipei to Frankfurt just for a 8-day sexcation in FKK Clubs on November.

For others, this may be insane and not so appealing.

However, in my case, I have lost my interest in Asian women. Only White women can turn me on now.

Where am I going to find so many fuckable white women in East Asia?

This is not insane. This is how life should be like! I am going to have another sexcation in German FKK Clubs next summer! LOL

[QUOTE=Solo Traveler; 1508841]Mr. Ho,

You're Japanese?

Great to find that I am not the only insane East Asian who travel so far to Germany just to fuck the white girls in FKK Clubs! LOL.

I'm Taiwanese, and I just flew all the way from Taipei to Frankfurt just for a 8-day sexcation in FKK Clubs on November.

For others, this may be insane and not so appealing.

However, in my case, I have lost my interest in Asian women. Only White women can turn me on now.

Where am I going to find so many fuckable white women in East Asia?

This is not insane. This is how life should be like! I am going to have another sexcation in German FKK Clubs next summer! LOL[/QUOTE]Yes I am, I still do like some of the Asian women, but it is limited to very selected ones, as I wrote before I only go with porn stars or very few half white half japanese girl here in Tokyo.

We were discussing how life should be like for Punter / mongers like us and how life is like for marriage believer who are male earlier on this forum. So if you are interested read back as it was pretty interesting conversations we had on that topic few weeks ago on this forum.

Me too I prefer white women, but in asia we are big time shortage of stocks.

However Macau is not bad for that in Sauna, it is unique place, or if you like hybrid Asian / white girls, Philippines you find some good ones, but I am afraid you have to look and dig for them as they are minorities. Alot of filipina goto middle east for maid etc and they get pregnant there, and you also find some half Arab / Philippine girls too, some are real cute. But mind you it is not safest set up in Philippines, but if you do be careful it is all ok too in Philippines. But I would say only bet you have for white girls in Asia is Macau.

I also heard about easter former Soviet Union nations near Japan like Vladiostok (one hour flight from Japan) has some nice girls, but you need your own contact for it and I do not know anyone there, so I never been. Hmmm I should dig on this one because I do goto germany just for fkk once to three times a year, but it is looooong flight.