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[QUOTE=BonusParts;2161166]Met up FL with DIA who came to my room ordered a beer, took chocolate, and then tried to raise the price we agreed on (1500) so I kicked her out. Went to Dollhouse and bought a LD for a girl and that was decent enough. They said the barfine was 3500 and it was non-negotiable. Is this true everywhere or just in this area? Also I asked how much the LD was and the waitress said 300. The only reason I knew to ask for a single lady drink after that is because what I read online. To be honest I hate it here so far. I went to Hi Society after 1 am and got rejected from 3-4 girls. They wouldn't even say Hi. I went there because another girl said I was handsome and should try to go there when I was in Angeles. Well I wanted to believe that. I'll try again later but for tonight I might try the perimeter bars. The barfines there are for the night or only short time? Or is that all negotiated before you leave?[/QUOTE]I've been having luck with the bars on the side streets. Don't have to buy drinks, nor pay crazy gogo fancy bar fines. I pay php1 k for st amd the girls have been pretty fun. Only one asked for a tip, which just sours the whole experience for me. All others total thumbs up.

That fili-bait and switch thing on price isn't just girls. A trike driver agreed to a price with me today, then doubled it upon arrival amd next thing I know all his other trike buddy drivers came over and got involved. I. split the difference and ended up getting bullied out more $ than I agreed to. But then again I realized it still wasnt a bad price. Just the unecessary scumbaggery of this place is what is distasteful And also part of life here. (also helps that I just shot off a bunch of rounds at the firing range so I am prob in good mood anyway &#128521. Asia is fun and cheap, if you're ok with a danger element you might want to do latin america. Dangerous yes, but the cartel runs a tight ship and has much better business senses when it comes to not scamming your customers.

But not as cheap -- $1 k for two hrs with a fun girl is worth the occasional annoying filidrama. For a while 😉 I hope you get to have better experiences before you get bored with the scene here. It really can be fun.

But if gogo girls are overcharging, and the FL's are trying to scam you -- maybe try some smaller bars.

WWS I have to ask. Is this ST price on premises? There are very few places that will risk that any longer for fear of being busted. If not is the ST price a bar policy, suggested by the girl or suggested by you? My last visit I had a girl from a perimeter bar ask ME if I wanted a ST tomorrow for 1000. I took her up on it and she introduced me to a friend to boot. Last but most important: side streets in perimeter or off WS?
SE.

I have a flight in May out of Manila and was thinking of taking the Genesis bus from SM in AC. I believe I read here that the bus goes to terminal 3. My flight is from terminal 1. Do they have ground side shuttles from terminal 3 to terminal 1?

SE.

I tried det5 because I read online the bar fine was 1600 but the girl I asked wanted 2500 LT because she was a spotlight girl. I countered with 2 k but ended up paying 2500 +230 for drink / lady drink. They said candy was 1800. Are these the bars you mentioned? No drink or ld necessary? I just bought them because I thought I had to.

I have been back for exactly a month since my last two week visit to AC, and on reflection, I have to say it was my most disappointing stay. I have visited five times in the last two and a half years, and never had such poor service. Got couple of barfines, couple from high society, and rest were friends and cousins of girls I already know. Even picked up a girl from the lobby of my hotel, who approached me and asked me if I wanted her phone number. Getting pussy in AC is like shooting fish in a barrel. Aside from couple of my regulars, rest of the girls did not provide GFE service. No kissing, no passion. Even a BJ, was not automatically given. It was like back in my home country. Mechanical. I also noticed more tendencies for a rip off by the girls and the bars. Sadly, had to tell couple of girls to have a shower first. Wtf! There is no shortage of cute young spinners, and BBFS is available if that is your thing, but I have to take a break from this place. The negatives outweigh the positives at this time. Next time its Colombia and Thailand, before I even consider returning. The funniest moment was when a cute young girl from the province called me a chubby, mongoloid with a small cock. Yes, maybe I gained a little weight, and maybe I make faces when I cum, but a small cock? Now that is far from the truth. Also, how does she know the word mongoloid?! For the first time I could not wait to go home to my family and my cat. Two weeks was too long for me. I was counting the days.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;2161796]The funniest moment was when a cute young girl from the province called me a chubby, mongoloid with a small cock. Yes, maybe I gained a little weight, and maybe I make faces when I cum, but a small cock? Now that is far from the truth. Also, how does she know the word mongoloid?! For the first time I could not wait to go home to my family and my cat. Two weeks was too long for me. I was counting the days.[/QUOTE]LOL. Damn man. You must have gained a lot of weight since the last time I saw you. She didn't know the word mongoloid; she was just repeating something she heard. AC finally wore you down. I never could take more than 2 or 3 days in that place. See you back in Thailand.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2161812]LOL. Damn man. You must have gained a lot of weight since the last time I saw you. She didn't know the word mongoloid; she was just repeating something she heard. AC finally wore you down. I never could take more than 2 or 3 days in that place. See you back in Thailand.[/QUOTE]It is debatable whether or not any of us can find refuge from criticism about our weight in Thailand anymore. First of all, I am surprised Philippine girls are commenting on men's weight these days. That used to be one of the countries where I never saw a girl roll her eyes or express disgust over a man's weight while such a thing might have happened sometimes in Thailand. But today in Thailand? Wow. I have noticed a lot of Thai girls these days commenting on their men's weight. Farang men, that is. I don't know what they are saying in Thai to or about their Thai men. LOL.

I have a few Thai female friends and girlfriends who are not the least bit shy or hesitant about pointing out when I or the other farang men in their lives are adding to their girth. I have been heavier. But for my height, 178 cm /5'10", for years now I have been exactly 1 kilo or roughly 2.2 pounds "overweight" at 79.5 kilos/175 lbs., according to some of the most unforgiving Proper Weight-to-Height charts on the internet. Yet, many of the girls I know in Thailand will pat me on the tummy (32" waist pants fit loosely on me) indicating that I could do with a bit of reduction here. LOL. Not kidding. And the things they say about farangs who are much more overweight than I would probably shock those of us who are still under the impression that these good ol' fashioned country girls "like" big men or "don't care" if we are fat. Turns out, they do care. And I mean they really, really do. But they are masters at keeping most of us from knowing it. My impression is they are a lot more open about expressing their negative feelings about overweight men with men who are only moderately overweight because they don't see us as being insulted by what they say.

[QUOTE=BonusParts;2161594]I tried det5 because I read online the bar fine was 1600 but the girl I asked wanted 2500 LT because she was a spotlight girl. I countered with 2 k but ended up paying 2500 +230 for drink / lady drink. They said candy was 1800. Are these the bars you mentioned? No drink or ld necessary? I just bought them because I thought I had to.[/QUOTE]Not much point haggling on bar fines. 500 PHP = $10. You've already spent a lot of money getting to AC, so just roll with it.

Buying LDs is not mandatory. I suppose you could just walk in, point to a girl, pay the barfine and be out in 2 minutes if you really wanted to. But if you plant your ass on the sofa, you need to buy a drink for yourself and if a chick comes and sits with you, then an LD for her.

There is a free shuttle. I was thinking about doing this myself, but in the end I took Fly the Bus (a van actually) to Swagman Htl in Ermita, had lunch, and then took a taxi to the airport. If you go ahead and use Genesis, please followup with a report. I'm especially curious about how much time you give yourself. Good luck.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2161588]I have a flight in May out of Manila and was thinking of taking the Genesis bus from SM in AC. I believe I read here that the bus goes to terminal 3. My flight is from terminal 1. Do they have ground side shuttles from terminal 3 to terminal 1?

SE.[/QUOTE]

Okay thanks I was just asking in case I should expect inflated barfines and I had to haggle. In Thailand I liked massage places best (set price) but I read I had to take a trike to get to a FS massage place here so I haven't bothered.

Last night I got a girl from high society and it was awful. Threw away 1500 on a girl who thought I would finish if she laid back for 5 minutes. I'll be avoiding freelancers for sure now.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2161586]WWS I have to ask. Is this ST price on premises? There are very few places that will risk that any longer for fear of being busted. If not is the ST price a bar policy, suggested by the girl or suggested by you? My last visit I had a girl from a perimeter bar ask ME if I wanted a ST tomorrow for 1000. I took her up on it and she introduced me to a friend to boot. Last but most important: side streets in perimeter or off WS?
SE.[/QUOTE]Yeah, as a bar fine. Pay the mamasang. Girls go back to your place. Side streets off of WS itself.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2161856]Not much point haggling on bar fines. 500 PHP = $10. You've already spent a lot of money getting to AC, so just roll with it.

Buying LDs is not mandatory. I suppose you could just walk in, point to a girl, pay the barfine and be out in 2 minutes if you really wanted to. But if you plant your ass on the sofa, you need to buy a drink for yourself and if a chick comes and sits with you, then an LD for her.[/QUOTE]This is pretty good advice for anywhere in s. Asia on anything / everything. Sure you don't want to feel like a foreign mark by giving into price gouging But that is ego talking most of the time. Yesterday I had a run in with a gang of trike drivers, right off ws to. all over 100 pesos. And a 35 kg laundry joint magically decided it was going to be 96 pesos per Kg. I realized I was objecting to scams that amounted to $3 collectively. Peace of mind is worth more than that. But lmfao the lengths Filipinos go through to scam someone to what amounts to no more than a free meal to them is amazing.

I have totally walked away multiple times from a ws joint because the barfine was more than I cared to pay though. I know, silly. Cosplay the most recent because it is somehow either 2500 or 3 k depending on whatever factor they decide. I am prob missing out on LT experience (assuming the chicks actually stay the whole night and not leave after 2 hrs anyway) -- so I might have to spring for it. Once. Haven't been able to yet, so I get it wanting to bargain. But yeah often not worth the effort.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;2161796]I have been back for exactly a month since my last two week visit to AC, and on reflection, I have to say it was my most disappointing stay. I have visited five times in the last two and a half years, and never had such poor service. Got couple of barfines, couple from high society, and rest were friends and cousins of girls I already know. Even picked up a girl from the lobby of my hotel, who approached me and asked me if I wanted her phone number. Getting pussy in AC is like shooting fish in a barrel. Aside from couple of my regulars, rest of the girls did not provide GFE service. No kissing, no passion. Even a BJ, was not automatically given. It was like back in my home country. Mechanical. I also noticed more tendencies for a rip off by the girls and the bars. Sadly, had to tell couple of girls to have a shower first. Wtf! There is no shortage of cute young spinners, and BBFS is available if that is your thing, but I have to take a break from this place. The negatives outweigh the positives at this time. Next time its Colombia and Thailand, before I even consider returning. The funniest moment was when a cute young girl from the province called me a chubby, mongoloid with a small cock. Yes, maybe I gained a little weight, and maybe I make faces when I cum, but a small cock? Now that is far from the truth. Also, how does she know the word mongoloid?! For the first time I could not wait to go home to my family and my cat. Two weeks was too long for me. I was counting the days.[/QUOTE]Hahaha! Very funny! Compliments and customer service are not Pinay country bumpkins' strong selling points. Those are bareback fucking, cum-in-pussy, and authentic indulgence of breeding fantasies. At least, they laugh when they insult you unlike Western women who do it with anger and disgust in their faces. You have to excuse the LBFMs, as they think fat old foreigners pay for the sex. They do not know that their customers are really paying to have their egos stroked and to feel loved by a hot spinner.

I have been pitching a Guest Relations Officer Customer Service Skills program to the local colleges but the deans are too afraid to put the proposal before the Philippine Accrediting Association of Schools, Colleges and Universities (PAASCU). Hence, for now, there will be no GROCSC program to teach them how to stroke a monger's ego competently. The mechanical sex with young cute jungle pussies will have to do for the near future.

Bareback in a tight young pussy is great but the girls could earn twice as much if they only learn to say, "Lab you, Sexy Man!" during fucking and credibly deliver a DFK that can make mongers believe they have fallen for them. Sometimes, I give the girls some lessons on how to hook suckers in lieu of cash. I tell them if they want to make big tips and make walking penises buy them houses, they had better learn that "all cocks are big. " The way to a monger's heart and wallet is through his cock, and they had better tell him it is big, makes them horny, and gives them multiple orgasms.

As for the girls laughing at fuck faces, when mongers shoot their loads into their young holes. There is nothing to do about that because Pinays laugh at everything. It is impossible to avoid making gruesome or ridiculous faces when shooting a load accompanied by squeals and grunts. Some fellas turn cockeyed, purple faced or stutter when squirting their load and the girls find it extremely amusing. There is no such thing as retaining your dignity when fucking, which is one of the reasons many girls hide in the bathroom during so-called threesomes.

[QUOTE=WorldWideScout;2161997]This is pretty good advice for anywhere in s. Asia on anything / everything. Sure you don't want to feel like a foreign mark by giving into price gouging But that is ego talking most of the time. Yesterday I had a run in with a gang of trike drivers, right off ws to. all over 100 pesos. And a 35 kg laundry joint magically decided it was going to be 96 pesos per Kg. I realized I was objecting to scams that amounted to $3 collectively. Peace of mind is worth more than that. But lmfao the lengths Filipinos go through to scam someone to what amounts to no more than a free meal to them is amazing.

I have totally walked away multiple times from a ws joint because the barfine was more than I cared to pay though. I know, silly. Cosplay the most recent because it is somehow either 2500 or 3 k depending on whatever factor they decide. I am prob missing out on LT experience (assuming the chicks actually stay the whole night and not leave after 2 hrs anyway) -- so I might have to spring for it. Once. Haven't been able to yet, so I get it wanting to bargain. But yeah often not worth the effort.[/QUOTE]50 PHP is still a lot of money for a manual labourer or street urchin in the Philippines. The average daily wage for unskilled people is around PHP 200-300. So what might only be a dollar for us still has value for local people.

Bar fines are usually fixed in AC and not really negotiable. Due to recent raids, you sometimes have to give the money upfront to the girl and not the mamasan. The basic business model in AC is flawed and works against the punter. Because the bar fine and the girls fee is rolled up into one and paid at upfront, there is no incentive for the girl to perform. In the past (10 years ago), all girls went LT. But you will be lucky to get that nowadays as the girls know they can get away with just providing ST. In Manila or Thailand, the girl gets her portion after the service is performed so she is less likely to renege on the deal. There isn't any sincerity or good work ethic in AC anymore. It's dog eat dog

For an extended ST experience, you can go to say Candy Bar at 12.00 noon when it opens, select a hottie, pay the bar fine of 1,800 and keep her until 10.00 pm.

[QUOTE=BonusParts;2161979]Okay thanks I was just asking in case I should expect inflated barfines and I had to haggle. In Thailand I liked massage places best (set price) but I read I had to take a trike to get to a FS massage place here so I haven't bothered.

Last night I got a girl from high society and it was awful. Threw away 1500 on a girl who thought I would finish if she laid back for 5 minutes. I'll be avoiding freelancers for sure now.[/QUOTE]Mate, you seem to be having a bad time. The safest bet is to go to the Perimeter Bars midday when they open. For 1,800 you can pick up a nice looking girl and keep her until late. If she's no good, send her back and get a new one.

The FLs at High Society are often hardened hookers with attitudes to match. You need to focus on the sweet country bumpkins from the Perimeter as they are not hardened criminals yet.