Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2007734]I think maybe the best defense might be a good proactive offense.[/QUOTE]Dimethicone skin barrier creams are used to protect skin for hospital workers who wash their hands often. It is also a common ingredient in silicone sex lubes and is added to pre-lubed condoms. Perhaps it would be a good place to start a defense against microbes. Since many microbes are passed in body fluids and dimethicone is water resistant, it should provide some level of protection. Applying it to the pubic areas not covered by condoms would seem a reasonable precaution. Coconut oil is also a good sex lube and water resistant barrier, but it is not compatible with latex condoms.

[URL]http://www.glovesinabottle.com/how-it-works.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=JohnDough;2007785]Dimethicone skin barrier creams are used to protect skin for hospital workers who wash their hands often. It is also a common ingredient in silicone sex lubes and is added to pre-lubed condoms. Perhaps it would be a good place to start a defense against microbes. Since many microbes are passed in body fluids and dimethicone is water resistant, it should provide some level of protection. Applying it to the pubic areas not covered by condoms would seem a reasonable precaution. Coconut oil is also a good sex lube and water resistant barrier, but it is not compatible with latex condoms.

[URL]http://www.glovesinabottle.com/how-it-works.html[/URL][/QUOTE]It is just a silicone based lotion and it doesn't even dare to claim it will protect against harmful bacteria or microbes.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;2007775]Tea tree oil or snake oil?

According to this article on Wikipedia and it's references there is insufficient evidence that tea tree oil has any effect on keeping your skin healthy [URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_tree_oil[/URL].[/QUOTE]Stop being so contentious. You are contradicting everything, anybody posts here. Besides this article on WebMD lists a host of ailments that are treated by tea tree oil.

[URL]http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-113-TEA%20TREE%20OIL.aspx?activeIngredientId=113&activeIngredientName=TEA%20TREE%20OIL[/URL]

And the Mayo Clinic [URL]http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/tea-tree-oil/background/HRB-20060086[/URL].

What I forgot to say in my previous post is that the dimethicone barrier cream will help protect the skin from the irritation and subsequent increased risk of infection from antimicrobial soaps.

[URL]http://wisderm.com/ingredients/Dimethicone[/URL]

[QUOTE]Dimethicone is used extensively in cosmetic formulations as a conditioning agent, skin protectant and moisturizer.

In fact, a barrier cream based on dimethicone has been demonstrated to protect against the penetration of S. Mansoni cercariae, the parasitic worm that causes schistosomiasis, into human skin.

Including dimethicone in topical acne medications can minimize treatment-related irritation by reducing the impairment of the epidermal barrier and restoring its function.

Dimethicone's skin protectant properties enables it to be used for the prevention or treatment of several types of dermatitis.

Numerous clinical trials have established the efficacy of dimethicone-based formulations in clearing head louse infestations.[/QUOTE]

There is a guy on the USA board called Trust Lust that has this to say about antimicrobial agents:

[QUOTE]My mongering, on a regular basis, was to begin exactly 26 years ago, today, and I've always made it strict policy to go bare back.

I never have P4P without immediate access to bathing; it dates back to the ancient regime, I guess. Home turf or my motel room with my valuables and food stashed have proven to always work out the best.

I take a cup of water and slosh a couple of cap fulls of Clorox in it. Immediately, after fucking, I wash my dick with this solution. I even take a syringe full of it to douche out my pisser. They use about the same thing, Dakin's solution, to wash out wounds, at the hospital.

The way I do it is slosh a little bit of Clorox in a pint of water and flush out my ureter directly after sex. Right after that, I wash my whole dick with the same solution while using a washcloth. I've been doing it since December 1991 and have never caught any STD's; I've gone bareback almost with every SW I've dated. During the first few times you do it, you should experience a slight burning sensation, but this is only the bacteria at the top of the ureter yelling,"Fire!" At first, I had to (empty my bladder), directly afterwards, but once my liver made the juices for what was going on, this didn't keep happening.

Don't rule out 2% tincture of iodine for herpes or genital warts. The medical hoopla media only has you believing it won't kill viruses, and it oftentimes kills jock itch when nothing, doctor given, will.[/QUOTE]

Dr. (Major) Maganlal P. Vora, M. B. B. S. , D. V. D. , I. M. S. (R).

He is 98 years old today and in fairly good health for his age. He spent his whole life in the promotion of awareness and treatment of Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs) / Infections (STIs) and AIDS. He is perhaps the oldest living person in the world having spent over 70 years in promotion of "awareness" in this field of Sexual Diseases. He went into Venereal Diseases right after his graduation in 1934. He was attached to the Department of Venereal Diseases of the Sir J. J. Hospital, Mumbai (Bombay), India in those days.

His recommendation for prevention of STDs?" Certification obtained in the use of Nano Silver Particles in controlling HIV-1 Virus. This important landmark Research has brought humanity many steps closer to eradicating AIDS in our world today. This is the first time in the world that this scientific development (which has a far reaching global impact) has been reproduced by an independent laboratory to substantiate our claims and validate our research and clinical findings. Also: Efficacy of Colloidal Silver against both Gram Positive and Gram Negative Bacteria, Fungi (Candida) and other micro-organisms".

[URL]http://www.stdpioneer.org/[/URL]

The method I use to follow this doctor's recommendation is to buy a large bottle of coconut oil at Walmart in the cooking section for $7 - it must be the liquid at room temperature type. Then buy Silver ointment at CVS pharmacy for $9 - the "Antimicrobial Silver Gel" or buy higher Silver ppm ointments. I prefer the 250 ppm silver ointment. Mix the silver and the oil together in a small bottle for carrying and use liberally. I view it as a condom for your skin that kills STDs, HIV and Herpes. But you must also purchase non-latex condoms like the Sagamis that are not affected by oil. Visit the doctor's website for viewing his papers and reports and lab tests on STD prevention.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2007982]Stop being so contentious. You are contradicting everything, anybody posts here. Besides this article on WebMD lists a host of ailments that are treated by tea tree oil.

[URL]http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-113-TEA%20TREE%20OIL.aspx?activeIngredientId=113&activeIngredientName=TEA%20TREE%20OIL[/URL]

And the Mayo Clinic [URL]http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/tea-tree-oil/background/HRB-20060086[/URL].[/QUOTE]I am just pointing out that websites that sell this kind of stuff are rarely if ever really objective about it and just throw together some scientific terms that sound good but don't hold together when you check it out. Many give some vague hints which our brains supplement with what we wish is true (but unfortunately isn't).

Bersides, your WebMD link is broken and the Mayoclinic has found its information on a site called "Natural Medicines" which is only accessible when you pay them 15 USD / month! And the quote on the Mayoclinic site is very light in content. A bit disappointing, really.

[QUOTE=JohnDough;2007987]What I forgot to say in my previous post is that the dimethicone barrier cream will help protect the skin from the irritation and subsequent increased risk of infection from antimicrobial soaps.

[URL]http://wisderm.com/ingredients/Dimethicone[/URL][/QUOTE]Which is an entirely different thing than claiming it protects against microbes.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;2008091]Which is an entirely different thing than claiming it protects against microbes.[/QUOTE]The subject is safe sex. I don't know why you feel the need to contradict everyone, when in fact, we are only trying to share information about safe sex and what options we have available to us. On a forum dedicated to mongering, I can't imagine a topic that could of any greater importance.

Since you don't seem to like anything anyone else has posted, why don't you explain in detail what we need to know that we have been overlooking for so long.

Here is basic safe sex info re how to protect yourself from a highly regarded source in the medical community:

[URL]http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sexually-transmitted-diseases-stds/manage/ptc-20180616[/URL]

Please notice there is no mention of unproven products like tea tree oil, colloidal silver, coconut oil, etc, in combating STIs.

These products, all of which I've used, may or may not help, but I wouldn't rely on them.

They probably won't do any harm, but only if you use them properly, because they all can be dangerous.

Best of luck, gentlemen.

I have it from somewhere (reading? Doctor's advice?) that the best you can do as a man to prevent STDs is to have a good pipi right after intercourse in order to flush out germs. It's a pitty no research with controls groups has ever been carried out to ascertain the efficacy of this practice. Note that pissing while your cock retains some stiffness is probably more efficient since the pressure inside the urethra is bound to be higher owing to constriction.

Maybe pipi games are good for you and evolved as a sexual practice because it offered enhanced protection to those practising it. I'm only speculating.

[QUOTE=XXL;2009101]I have it from somewhere (reading? Doctor's advice?) that the best you can do as a man to prevent STDs is to have a good pipi right after intercourse in order to flush out germs. It's a pitty no research with controls groups has ever been carried out to ascertain the efficacy of this practice. Note that pissing while your cock retains some stiffness is probably more efficient since the pressure inside the urethra is bound to be higher owing to constriction.

Maybe pipi games are good for you and evolved as a sexual practice because it offered enhanced protection to those practicing it. I'm only speculating.[/QUOTE]Peeing right after sex probably won't do any harm & may help, so why not? The problem is you may not be able to take a leak, either with or without a stiff dick. Maybe drink lots of water a few hours before the act & hold it in till after you do the deed?

Peeing immediately after sex won't do anything to protect you regarding STIs that are passed to you via other avenues than your weiner hole. Such as minuscule cuts and abrasions on the shaft of your penis, skin to skin contact STIs, and so forth.

To be protected from skin transferred STI you could use a condom & sex positions where you don't directly touch the ladies' body, especially those parts of her (genital regions) that are more likely to carry such STI. If you've watched a lot of online porn, you probably know the positions I'm referring to.

Skin to skin contact would also include bare back blowjobs or BBBJ. Guys getting genital herpes from ladies with HSV1 performing fellatio is on the rise, so you might want to consider using condoms that feel and look like the real thing.

"Herpes simplex virus type 2 (HSV-2) is the cause of most genital herpes. Now, HSV-1 has become an important cause and represents even about 30% of genital herpes in some countries. So, study related to genital herpes should consider both HSV-1 and HSV-2. ".

[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23055654[/URL]

"The function of muscle is to pull and not to push, except in the case of the genitals and the tongue. ".

- Leonardo the Vinci.

[QUOTE=XXL;2009101]I have it from somewhere (reading? Doctor's advice?) that the best you can do as a man to prevent STDs is to have a good pipi right after intercourse in order to flush out germs. It's a pitty no research with controls groups has ever been carried out to ascertain the efficacy of this practice. Note that pissing while your cock retains some stiffness is probably more efficient since the pressure inside the urethra is bound to be higher owing to constriction.

Maybe pipi games are good for you and evolved as a sexual practice because it offered enhanced protection to those practising it. I'm only speculating.[/QUOTE]I have been told that twice by a physician after being treated for a routine UTI. The last time I was married and in a monogamous relationship. My doctor said all men, including married men, should [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] right after sex regardless and it would reduce the number of UTI incidences significantly. He didn't say anything about it reducing the risk of HIV or other serious venereal diseases, but it does make sense that it should.

The reason you have not seen any "research with controls groups has ever been carried out to ascertain the efficacy of this practice" is because it would require men deemed to be free of STDs to have sex with someone (male or female) who is confirmed to have a STD or communicable infection. One group gets to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] right after sex, the other group is told to hold it in for awhile. And of course, someone has to monitor this. I don't think you would see many men lining up to do that, even if there is free pussy involved.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;2009214]To be protected from skin transferred STI you could use a condom & sex positions where you don't directly touch the ladies' body, especially those parts of her (genital regions) that are more likely to carry such STI. [/QUOTE]I remember reading somewhere that shaven genitals were bad from the point of view of herpes transmission. Maybe the muslim fundamentalists who preach hairy pussies (and hairy faces in men) are no such fools after all.

Note that men suffering from cold sores report that shaving after growing a beard for some lenght of time can trigger an outbreak. Maybe the virus senses that it will get a dose of UV light and UV light is a trigger for a herpes outbreak. Wheels withing wheels.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2009227]One group gets to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] right after sex, the other group is told to hold it in for awhile. And of course, someone has to monitor this. I don't think you would see many men lining up to do that, even if there is free pussy involved.[/QUOTE]

Drugs are human-tested in male prisons. Desperate inmates volunteer for dangerous drug testing in exchange for money or whatever. I'm sure if they were offered a program of risky sex many would volunteer. Then again, this would not do since prison inmates are meant to have a hard time and not a good one.

Hi all, Not sure if this is the correct thread. So anyway. Here goes. From time to time I just can't perform even though I take liberal does of vitamins, all of them generic. Any thoughts? I start out OK but it just ain't enough anymore. Tonight I was in a gangbang in Berlin but for the love of me I had to remain content just to watch. Is there such a thing as taking too many vitamins? I prepped hours ahead of time and then once more just before going to the club. I had only a drink or two. Thanks.