Kyiv

[QUOTE=Brandon88]Hello all,

I usually frequent the Asian forums, but now I find myself coming to Kiev sometime in mid-November. Although I only skimmed the first few pages here, I do intend to dig deeper before asking any redundant questions.

My initial observation is that Kiev prices seem to be all over the map, tending to full European/American prices (SW aside). Coming from countries where A $50 gets you LT just about anywhere, I'm getting sticker shock. But no matter.

If anyone is in town this month, and is interested in joining up for a beer, please don't hesitate to PM me.[/QUOTE]


Sorry Brandon...

But even if sometimes I'm disagreeing with Doc... you will get no LT in Kiev for 50 bucks, for sure... I think he can agree.

I think that the chaepest place I found in EE was in a little city in Tatarstan, East European Russia: 200 RUR / 8 USD, or so, per hour... meaning 80 or more LT.

I do not think that in Kiev you can get a resonable girl for less than 200... not even in the suburbs (they take the bus!). Perhaps far in the country you can get one for 100... but I'm not sure.

I ask for the opinion of Doc here... Pehaps you can get one for free... (but it will cost you more than 50 in any case!)

IT

Just returned from Kiev after a week of fun. After disappointed initially by two fake sites, I decided to stick to Gia based on my previous experience. I enjoyed the company of Katrina, Eliza, Irina and Yulia.Here is my report on each:

Katrina: Slim and nicely behaved girl. Speaks reasonably good English. Excellent BBBJ, all positions and overall good sex.

Eliza: Well educated and excellent English, good IQ. Excellent BBBJ;she likes doggy position. My only complain to her was that she is too thin(hardly 42 kg). She said she feels more active being thin.

Irina: Good body; very enthusiastic in sex play. Limited English. I had to act some times to make her understand. Very good in BBBJ and normal sex positions. The best part was that she allowed me to take pictures during the act and she took video on her mobile phone as well. Very cooperative.

Yulia: She is the most beautiful of all the Gia girls. Speks limited English, but is very friendly and caring. Excellent bust and smooth skin. BBBJ and sex were excellent. I would have repeated her but she was not available for the next 2 days, after my 2 hours session with her.

I would like to send pictures next time.

Deon123

IT, do you mean 200 USD or 200 Ukranian? I know I cannot enjoy the same level of economics as I can throughout Asia, but I had no idea Kiev is this high.

If you mean 200USD, it would appear that I'll be watching a lot of TV. lol!

You really should remove that link and pictures of the girl.

I do not know if it is board policy or not. But I think posting web pictures of a girl you never met is poor form to say the least.

In this case you are alluding to the girl being a prostitute and nothing in her personal ad gives that indication at all. You seem to think because she did not check off a box saying I am not a prostitute then she must be - huh.

Even if the ad was indeed a posting for a prostitute - you have never met that girl. Who is to say the girl posting the ad did not steal this other girls picture.

Simply said, if you have not met the girl in person do not post a picture.

Hey Brandon,

I should be in Kiev around the same time. Im new to the site, quite new to Kiev and reasonably new to mongering.

I do however know how to buy beer. I would be happy to meet up if our timings co-incide.

[QUOTE=Brandon88]IT, do you mean 200 USD or 200 Ukranian? I know I cannot enjoy the same level of economics as I can throughout Asia, but I had no idea Kiev is this high.

If you mean 200USD, it would appear that I'll be watching a lot of TV. lol![/QUOTE]


Of course it was 200... a standard price is between 200 USD and 200 € for anight, for a nice one between 300 USD to 300 € (typical gia tariff).

With 200 Grivnas you get a two pill box of Cialis ! Or a dinner for two in a so so place...

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]You really should remove that link and pictures of the girl.

I do not know if it is board policy or not. But I think posting web pictures of a girl you never met is poor form to say the least.

In this case you are alluding to the girl being a prostitute and nothing in her personal ad gives that indication at all. You seem to think because she did not check off a box saying I am not a prostitute then she must be - huh.

Even if the ad was indeed a posting for a prostitute - you have never met that girl. Who is to say the girl posting the ad did not steal this other girls picture.

Simply said, if you have not met the girl in person do not post a picture.[/QUOTE]


Ok I'll do it again, but in the other sectors, like Moscow, I posted girls same age, same condition, but expessly asking for money.

By the way there are a lot of pics from the sites here on the forums... What comments on the pics taken on the street? No comment? Why.

IT

[QUOTE=It Travel]
With 200 Grivnas you get a two pill box of Cialis ! Or a dinner for two in a so so place...[/QUOTE]or a taxi at the River Palace ;)

[QUOTE=Sporadic]or a taxi at the River Palace ;)[/QUOTE]


If you are spaking at least five words of russian you will have to answer sorok (40) already overpriced...

Or even better go to the Metro, buj a plastic coin for 50 Kopeks, and get at Dnipro Station, 50 meters from RP...

IT

IT:

It seems to me that we fundamentally disagree on certain things.

Street scenes:
Posting pictures of girls from the street is questionable I agree, but nobody suggests in any way that these girls on the street are prostitutes. They are more or less harmless safari pictures... tourist pictures. If someone who knows any of these girls discovered those pictures, there is no way they could think that the girls in the picture were somehow involved in prostitution. No harm, no foul.

Dating sites:
Posting links to girls from dating sites whose profiles in NO way suggest that they are prostitutes and of girls that you've never even personally met is just silly. Moreover, if somebody who knows these girls did come across the link on this website, they might think this girl is a prostitute... your post certainly suggests it. It is quite simply unfair and as Cruiser D said, bad form.

I don't see your point in posting the link at all, what she listed in her profile was an absolute standard profile of a girl looking for a boyfriend or husband and hoping one day to live a good life. Your suggestion that her provocative posing makes her some sort of ***** sounds like something we hear out of Afghanistan or Algeria.

Your tone in the post suggests that you think all girls on those dating sites, essentially a cross section of Russian and Ukrainian girls, are all *****s. I genuinely feel sorry for those people with such a cynical outlook on life.

Sponsorship/advertised pros on websites:
Whether or not you want to post links to those girls that ARE advertised prostitutes from dating sites is up to you, but I personally think it's pretty silly and bad form to post pictures of girls you've neither met or fucked. In the OLD ISG/WSG, which I personally preferred to the new version, it was specifically forbidden to post any pics of girls you didn't personally fuck. Those rules were regrettably relaxed by admin, so feel free to post your fantasy pics.

Frankly, I much prefer your REAL action pictures from encounters you've actually had. That's excellent photojournalism in the spirit of ISG. Hope to see some more soon.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]IT:

It seems to me that we fundamentally disagree on certain things.

Street scenes:
Posting pictures of girls from the street is questionable I agree, but nobody suggests in any way that these girls on the street are prostitutes. They are more or less harmless safari pictures... tourist pictures. If someone who knows any of these girls discovered those pictures, there is no way they could think that the girls in the picture were somehow involved in prostitution. No harm, no foul.

Dating sites:
Posting links to girls from dating sites whose profiles in NO way suggest that they are prostitutes and of girls that you've never even personally met is just silly. Moreover, if somebody who knows these girls did come across the link on this website, they might think this girl is a prostitute... your post certainly suggests it. It is quite simply unfair and as Cruiser D said, bad form.

I don't see your point in posting the link at all, what she listed in her profile was an absolute standard profile of a girl looking for a boyfriend or husband and hoping one day to live a good life. Your suggestion that her provocative posing makes her some sort of ***** sounds like something we hear out of Afghanistan or Algeria.

Your tone in the post suggests that you think all girls on those dating sites, essentially a cross section of Russian and Ukrainian girls, are all *****s. I genuinely feel sorry for those people with such a cynical outlook on life.

Sponsorship/advertised pros on websites:
Whether or not you want to post links to those girls that ARE advertised prostitutes from dating sites is up to you, but I personally think it's pretty silly and bad form to post pictures of girls you've neither met or fucked. In the OLD ISG/WSG, which I personally preferred to the new version, it was specifically forbidden to post any pics of girls you didn't personally fuck. Those rules were regrettably relaxed by admin, so feel free to post your fantasy pics.

Frankly, I much prefer your REAL action pictures from encounters you've actually had. That's excellent photojournalism in the spirit of ISG. Hope to see some more soon.[/QUOTE]


Dear Doc,

I think we just have different opinions on this thing... Of course I think not that every girl on flirt, or whatever site is a w*hore...

If they openly ask for money or sponsor of course they, in some ways, are prostitues.

At the moment I contacted in Kiev and in Moscow approx. 350 names usually those for sponosr or so... but also some inticating nothing on the money side and searching for sex. Of course some did not even answer (in any case I was out of thir age target), but it's very funny how you get, after lot of discussions, money requests... some after 30/40 messages.

The ones (on flirt) with pink name and pink signed picture are w*hores.

But if you make a seach via "date" section, you will find a lot of girls dating for free, some for sex... usually the ask for money too...

But a lot of other are offering other things. Unfortunately (or fortunately for us!) a lot of people can't use this device because it's in Russian. As you see I posted only pro girl (four in Moscow section) and one in the "Hegre target" (accepting up to 35 y.o.). One guy here was asking just for that.

Perhaps I'm wrong as you say... but ok I'll try to limit...

My photo ambition, for beeing useful, is posting site picture of a girl, and my own ones (I did it some times, or I gave a link... Andressa in Brasil, Yulia in and Viola in Ukraine, Diana, Lada and Valentina in Russia, etc.)... But it's becoming more and more difficult to get girls photographed.

I can understand the ISG rules, only fucked girls....

But in my opinion, and it is the last, is that here we are discussing (and helping each other, thanks all for anal girls numbers in Kiev!) on getting sex. So I think we might post links, photos, or comments on sites on girls on ads etc. Pros of course... but also widely and opnly avaliable for sex.

Just an opinion of course, but it's every where here!

Hi Doc... as told I would like to meet and offer you at least a Beer! ;)

Sorry what do you mean with 101???

IT

[QUOTE=It Travel]If you are spaking at least five words of russian you will have to answer sorok (40) already overpriced...

Or even better go to the Metro, buj a plastic coin for 50 Kopeks, and get at Dnipro Station, 50 meters from RP...

IT[/QUOTE]

It was a joke, or intended to be one.

101 refers to the introductory level courses at university in the US.

Hello all,

How do I get to Tartastan????

[QUOTE=Irish Lad]Hello all,

How do I get to Tartastan????[/QUOTE]


It's quite simple... I do not know from Ukraine, but, the easiest way is to fly from Ukraine to DME Domodedovo (no flights at the moment) or SVO (but you have to change termainal, and it might waste a lot of time, and then to Kazan. Otherwise you can get night trains from Moscow... very comfortable... in first class.

You can also go between Kiev to Kazan by train, with stopover (few hours) and station (Kievskaya to Kazanskaya) change in Moscow... all in 25-29 hours.

Otherwise you can get this connection

Kiev (KBP) 14:30 Moscow (SVO) 17:25 Terminal 2 SU 184 TU154
Moscow (SVO) 19:55 Terminal 1 Kazan (KZN) 21:20 SU in coopertation with TATARSTAN -- U9373


IT

Of course Tatarstan is big so where do you need to go????