Bangkok Reports

I find the whole idea of finding model quality p4p at any of the talked about locations a bit ridiculous. I mean you might get lucky once in a great while but I wouldn't bet on it. If you're looking for model quality there are places to get that and it's not usually for general consumption. I suggest seeing if you can get in touch with Eliot Spitzer and ask him where he was getting 5K an hour model / escorts. The closest I've seen to something like that was at Night Flight in Moscow.

But if you seriously think you're going to walk into a bar on Fields or Nana and walk out with a woman that could grace the pages of Vogue you're sadly mistaken. If you're a big swinging dick, and have a seven figure salary and more money than Bill Gates I suggest feeling out some of your friends and see what they know. Or go to the middle east and see who the sheiks use as talent agents. But that whole concept is a little silly here.

JMHO

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1388875]Help me out here guys.

2 very depressing viwes of Bangkok, Thailand. LOL. Ballgame is nowhere near over fellas! What happened to thes e 2 guys is that BKK has passed them by.

A sports ex. A football coach who still stands by his wing t formation in USA football. Football is no longer a running game yet the guy laments why he isn't having any fun running up the middle. LOL.[/QUOTE]Oh, you are correct. It is turning into the West, the place we left, and for all the reasons we are talking about here. Bad attitudes, etc.

[quote=mr enternational;1388933]for once i agree with harold. if the game has changed you have to change up your game plan. you can talk all you want about the plays you used to run 30 years ago, but nobody falls for those old trick plays anymore. you have to be able to innovate. you don't like the discos because you say the music and dancing is bad, but that is where all the good women are. suck it up for an hour or so until you can pull one out, or be stuck in the 80s and continue to go without.[/quote]again, if the "game" is what you hated to play in the west, why would you want to play it here? i myself do not. sorry, i just can't pretend to have fun at a disco listening to awful modern hip hop or philippine bands playing cover songs. i will take being raped by a mountain gorilla over that, and truthfully it is a real turn off to see women enjoying it and thinking it is "good." nope, oilies are about the only place for me these days.

[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1389069]I find the whole idea of finding model quality p4p at any of the talked about locations a bit ridiculous. I mean you might get lucky once in a great while but I wouldn't bet on it. If you're looking for model quality there are places to get that and it's not usually for general consumption. I suggest seeing if you can get in touch with Eliot Spitzer and ask him where he was getting 5K an hour model / escorts. The closest I've seen to something like that was at Night Flight in Moscow.

But if you seriously think you're going to walk into a bar on Fields or Nana and walk out with a woman that could grace the pages of Vogue you're sadly mistaken. If you're a big swinging dick, and have a seven figure salary and more money than Bill Gates I suggest feeling out some of your friends and see what they know. Or go to the middle east and see who the sheiks use as talent agents. But that whole concept is a little silly here.

JMHO[/QUOTE]So true. Agree with you 100. What is it about this? Tell ya, it is nothing but guys needing to feed their own ego. Great thing about getting older is that your ego shrinks and what you care about is being treated well and getting good service from the girls. Of course you do want them to be pleasant to look at, but you have nothing to prove to anyone.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1389074]So true. Agree with you 100. What is it about this? Tell ya, it is nothing but guys needing to feed their own ego. Great thing about getting older is that your ego shrinks and what you care about is being treated well and getting good service from the girls. Of course you do want them to be pleasant to look at, but you have nothing to prove to anyone.[/QUOTE]I do agree about the age thing. When you've proved your worth to yourself you really have little need to let everyone know it. For the astute there are tells. When Russia was coming out of Communism Devs would always look at a guys shoes. If a man had a nice pair of well kept shoes his status improved greatly. That was before today's man status symbols. A car is always a give but in today's credit world anyone can drive a 7series. Pay the lease and you're good as gold. But, can you buy it outright? .

Luxury time pieces. Is that a real Patek or my favorite Panerai?

So inasmuch as all the new bucks in town like to brag about 30 bjs in 30 tries. And wanting model quality at gogos. Yeah right.

Reminds me of a joke.

Sitting atop a hill on a beautiful spring day. Grazing in the valley below is a large herd cows, a bunch of fine heifers. The Young Bull, looks over the whole valley seeing many, many fine heifers.

The Old Bull surveys the valley as well and smiles.

The Young Bull, now too excited to control himself, looks at the Old Bull and says, 'Hey. Let's run down this hill and f*ck one of those heifers! '

The Old Bull looks back at The Young Bull and says, 'No. Let's walk down the hill and fuck them all. '

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1389058]

[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1389055]I never understood the concept of finding gems. No one else is seeing the same 3000 girls you plan to see?[/QUOTE]I think it's clear. Some people are more decisive than others and some people also know better than others what they want. I personally (and sadly) know too well that anything beyond certain level of attractiveness just won't excite me. So, I try to resist temptations of *4-6 ladies and lazer-zoom at fresh cuties above *7. Hope things are clearer now. Good luck! A

I will submit a detailed report later but just to quickly input what I have seen / experienced so far: The quality of girls has hit the bottom if not rock bottom. I could hardly find 1-2 doables at Mango. 1 at SW and none at many other MPs I channed upon near soi cowboy area. The girls are almost all flat chested and not good looking at all. Same with FLs at Beer garden / Thermae. Not even one stunner. Thermae girls prefer japs so even if you do find one or two that may fit the bill for the night, they won't be intestrested in you in the first place. The FLs on streets are terrible looking.

While mongering I prefer to come across a girl whose face / body make me pay for her, preferably instantly. Sadly, that is not the case here. Out of some 200 I have seen in past few days, not even 5 would hit 5/10 on my scale.

Baccara had about 2/3 pretty looking ones, I would rate them as 7-7. 5 but they are picked up before you can blink an eyelid. By Japs of course.

Perhaps I am too choosy but it does seem like that standard is dropping very fast in Bangkok. Plenty of very good looking Thais in malls / metros but in MPs / Pickup joints etc. Nothing. Nada. Rien

[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1389069]I find the whole idea of finding model quality p4p at any of the talked about locations a bit ridiculous. I mean you might get lucky once in a great while but I wouldn't bet on it. If you're looking for model quality there are places to get that and it's not usually for general consumption. I suggest seeing if you can get in touch with Eliot Spitzer and ask him where he was getting 5K an hour model / escorts. The closest I've seen to something like that was at Night Flight in Moscow.

But if you seriously think you're going to walk into a bar on Fields or Nana and walk out with a woman that could grace the pages of Vogue you're sadly mistaken. If you're a big swinging dick, and have a seven figure salary and more money than Bill Gates I suggest feeling out some of your friends and see what they know. Or go to the middle east and see who the sheiks use as talent agents. But that whole concept is a little silly here.

JMHO[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree. First, NF in Moscow is for succers. Myself and many others find it far from model quality! Almost any top Moscow disco has model-quality girls. But again, what's model quality for one is non-quality for others. I think I defined in my previous posts what's model quality for me. I will repeat it here: young (18-23) , fresh-faced, very slim, gorgeous face and smile, GFE attitude. Doesn't matter how she's dressed, doesn't matter if she's not tall. A girl next door can be model quality for me. Playboy doesn't define that quality in my book. I think that based on the above-mentioned description. 3000 specimens in a meet market like AC can yield what I'm looking for. Of course, I'm also pursuing other angles to this chase. Angles that are a bit more sophisticated than Mr. Spizer's. (:

Good luck to you!

A

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1389074]So true. Agree with you 100. What is it about this? Tell ya, it is nothing but guys needing to feed their own ego. Great thing about getting older is that your ego shrinks and what you care about is being treated well and getting good service from the girls. Of course you do want them to be pleasant to look at, but you have nothing to prove to anyone.[/QUOTE]To each its own. Let us not get too critical of others who we barely know. Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1389058]

[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1389055]I never understood the concept of finding gems. No one else is seeing the same 3000 girls you plan to see?[/QUOTE]You got a point, but I can't quibble with his goal.

There is nothing intrinsically wrong with for example in a 10 to 14 day trip to Bangkok and or the Phillipines to WANT to bang a dozen or so ultra hot "fresh faced" "young, long leg, passionate, gorgeous model types" True, he's not looking for runway models or requiring they be particularly tall, but he's certainly describing women that would probably fit into the top 10% of "models" typically doing for example Bangkok International auto shows. That's an extreme standard by any measurement.

However in practical terms, any sane person knows this is not going to happen unless one is a major high roller or a visiting rock star. Looks, youth, and charm on the part of the monger while a plus would not swing it. We're talking major bucks. Perhaps "Righteous Dude" the Global Nanpa guy could pull if off, but that guy leases private jets to fly to other southeast asian cities, otherwise flies transcontinental 1st class, stays in the top suites in 5 star hotels, routinely hires models for photo shoots, and leases Lamborghinis, so he's not your normal monger.

Natty Bumpo has warned Aibolit about AC, and while he will find some meeting his extreme standards, the sort through process itself required could attract unwanted attention, such attention possibility dangerous anywhere in the Phillipines, especially Manila, but AC as well. He would effectively have to outbid other mongers, because those girls (or even a fraction of what's he's describing) get noticed by everyone on Fields

Bangkok is a far more practical city to implement a more limited version of such a strategy.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1389074]So true. Agree with you 100. What is it about this? Tell ya, it is nothing but guys needing to feed their own ego. Great thing about getting older is that your ego shrinks and what you care about is being treated well and getting good service from the girls. Of course you do want them to be pleasant to look at, but you have nothing to prove to anyone.[/QUOTE]The above will be the finest smartest and most apt words spoken on ISG today!

I am planning to visit for a couple of days. Could any senior member recommend a tall gg that can offer GFE ST / LT from NEP or neighbouring areas?

Thanks

[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1389091]I do agree about the age thing. When you've proved your worth to yourself you really have little need to let everyone know it. For the astute there are tells. When Russia was coming out of Communism Devs would always look at a guys shoes. If a man had a nice pair of well kept shoes his status improved greatly. That was before today's man status symbols. A car is always a give but in today's credit world anyone can drive a 7series. Pay the lease and you're good as gold. But, can you buy it outright? .

Luxury time pieces. Is that a real Patek or my favorite Panerai?

So inasmuch as all the new bucks in town like to brag about 30 bjs in 30 tries. And wanting model quality at gogos. Yeah right.

Reminds me of a joke.

Sitting atop a hill on a beautiful spring day. Grazing in the valley below is a large herd cows, a bunch of fine heifers. The Young Bull, looks over the whole valley seeing many, many fine heifers.

The Old Bull surveys the valley as well and smiles.

The Young Bull, now too excited to control himself, looks at the Old Bull and says, 'Hey. Let's run down this hill and f*ck one of those heifers! '

The Old Bull looks back at The Young Bull and says, 'No. Let's walk down the hill and fuck them all. '[/QUOTE]And to the young bulls it is all about competition. To the old bull it is about satisfaction.

[QUOTE=Aibolit;1389276]To each its own. Let us not get too critical of others who we barely know. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Hey, we all like good looking gals, no doubt, but to get snide, competitive, and overpay to stroke one's ego in a city full of women is silly. And sadly that is what I see with many of the "young bulls" (credit to Fruitninja for that one) that are coming to BKK.

[QUOTE=Western787;1389279]However in practical terms, any sane person knows this is not going to happen unless one is a major high roller or a visiting rock star. Looks, youth, and charm on the part of the monger while a plus would not swing it. We're talking major bucks.[/QUOTE]Damn right on that. I recently saw an interview with an actor / singer. He said before he was famous women would not give him the time of day. He was always the ugly duckling. You always see people on the forum write,"Unless you look like Brad Pitt..." Well Brad Pitt has always looked like Brad Pitt, but I have a feeling that before the world knew him and he gained fame and riches, most of the women he has access to now were off limits.