Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2022063]I believe she used "tiempo" and not "rato." I use rato for some reason. Glad to see you posting again, Dickhead.[/QUOTE]The 'rato' part I have no problem believing, but it's [I]por[/I] un rato. I'm just giving you shit because of what you posted about how to pronounce Parque Lleras.

Any time you are exchanging one thing for another, it's 'por.' 'Para' indicates a purpose or a recipient, or a destination. 'Por' is also a route or method of transportation (por la ruta, por tren), and indicates an action on someone else's behalf ([I]No llores por mi, Argentina[/I] = 'Don't Cry for Me, Argentina'.

Here's a few examples to compare and contrast the two:

'Vamonos por el parque para la avenida' = let's walk through the park to get to the main drag.

'Estoy trabajando por mi primo por un par de semanas para que el pueda descansar' = I am working my cousin's shifts for the next two weeks so he can take a break.

'Tengo una reserva (or in some places una reservación) para hoy por tres noches' = I have a reservation starting today for three nights.

'Compré un coche para trabajar por dos mil euro' = I bought a car for work for 2. 000 euro.

But, as they say where I am right now, 'Me suda la polla.' Or an argentino might say, 'Me chupa un huevo.' I don't think the indefinite article should be used there, though, but they do. Usually the indefinite article is only used if the noun is modified by an adjective: 'Necesito cerveza' vs. 'Necesito [b]una[/b] cerveza bien fría.'

Hope that helps!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2021678]I don't ride motorcycles but I suspect you might regret taking the bike if you were to encounter one of those unexpected Florida rainstorms.[/QUOTE]I've raced Daytona Speedway in the rain on a bike. Now that was scary. I'll throw my rain gear in the saddle bags.

This is me here on the red bike waiting for the start at Daytona.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2021449]No there aren't. There are a FEW hookers. Sure. Not a TON. A TON is what you saw around Botero plaza.[/QUOTE]OK true if you want to nit pick, but even on Sunday night we had absolutely no trouble locating attractive ones and negotiating them down quite a bit.

The whole Botero area was slimy to me. It was nice to walk around in the day but I can't imagine a scenario where taking one of the street walkers in that area would be a good idea. There were some very rough ones and many traps (both young girls and probable hidden penises).

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2021363]I've been in Colombia since early November, mostly in Medellin. I've had a great time. I was in Fase II tonight and this was my first experience with any "attitude" on the part of women, no matter their place in the society. They were distant, sullen, minimally approachable, and either conceited or intensely insecure. Little or no interest in navigating interaction with a foreigner, even though my Spanish is not that horrible. Very unusual behavior it seemed. Maybe they don't want to be working Semana Santa. If so they should stay home. I don't know what it costs to take a girl up at Fase II, but there was no way I was paying it without a little effort on their part. Its too bad because I had a pocket full of money. There were only a few girls attractive enough to be asking for more than 40 or 50 mil anyway.

Luna Lunera was so dark, you wouldn't know if you were talking to a man, a woman, or an ape.[/QUOTE]Yup. Exactly the experience I had there. The prices were American strip club costs, I think it was going to be 160-200 to take one next door. They were very unfriendly. Immediately asked for us to buy them $10 drinks, when we denied they turned into total bitches. This place for me was the only blip on an amazing trip.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2022079]Heck, I almost booked the Normandy Hotel next to Barre Exexutiva to save a few more bucks, it's $23 a night compared to $26 at Botero, but Botero has mini-fridges in the room, and I can save some money by keeping some store bought food and drinks in the room.[/QUOTE]There's virtually no lower bound to how cheap a hotel can be in Medellin. I did my things with some girls taken from the street in the worst area of the Centro, paying the room 5 kCOP "por un rato" (I hope nobody will try to explain how to pronounce it, as it was done for Parque Lleras). In spite of that, I stay at Sheraton at Poblado. One thing is a quick deed, another is where I relax and live.

I would not recommend to dig the bottom of the barrel in choosing the hotel where to stay. Safety, hygiene, above all COMFORT are too important to enjoy a vacation.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2022121]
Hope that helps![/QUOTE]Kudos!! Outstanding explanation: precise and thorough.

Stopped by Linda's Chicas around 4:30, no girls told to come back at 7, came back two girls one is busy doing a ST neither are my type. Linda and Nancy tell to wait, so I wait and wait for three hours, linda keeps saying there is a holiday and all the girls are being lazy. Finally one girl shows, very pretty but tons of makeup and strange energy, also her boyfriend is standing nearby glaring at me when no one is looking. (WTF?) Negotiate price of 200,000 per day plus 150,000 for leaving. When we go to leave, they say the girl gets 400,000 per day, I'm shocked, as 750,000 seems crazy high. I change the plan from one week to just one day.

Experience with girl is very strange, stays away from me in room until I sweet talk her and we discuss her partying and makeup tips, but guys without spanish will definitely hit a wall and that is.

A problem. Her boyfriend keeps calling every few hours and she answers it quietly, Hello my Love, I'm still with a client, I'm staying at this place, stand outside if you want, and he texts her a lot as well. I ask her how many times per day she wants to have sex, she says ten times if she can, she is honest and when she is warmed up she does want me to keep going for as long as possible. The girl keeps saying 750,000 is not for a full day even though I confirmed this many times and insists that we go back so she can get her money and I can pay more money. We go there Linda says it's an extra 400,000 until midnight, this seems like a complete ripoff, so I say the girl can hang out with me and we can go to the mall but I'm not paying anything else. Linda says ok but no sex, the girl says I need to give Linda 100 out of respect.

There are girls across the city who want to date and mate with foreigners for free and will happily accept a much lower amount, I'm sorry but at 600,000 per day Linda's Chica's is a ripoff.

Bottom Line: Linda's Chica's is ok for semi-pro ST, but for LT a better option needs to be found for this forum, the same girls are available at every place in town.

[QUOTE=CodyGreen;2022325]Stopped by Linda's Chicas around 4:30, no girls told to come back at 7, came back two girls one is busy doing a ST neither are my type. Linda and Nancy tell to wait, so I wait and wait for three hours, linda keeps saying there is a holiday and all the girls are being lazy. Finally one girl shows, very pretty but tons of makeup and strange energy, also her boyfriend is standing nearby glaring at me when no one is looking. (WTF?) Negotiate price of 200,000 per day plus 150,000 for leaving. When we go to leave, they say the girl gets 400,000 per day, I'm shocked, as 750,000 seems crazy high. I change the plan from one week to just one day.[/QUOTE]You should have asked how much for the boyfriend haha, then seen his reaction.

In Cartagena I paid 300 k per day to a girl to wife up and she wanted 100 k more for the take out fine at the strip club. Is Linda's Chicas a brothel? I can't find it on the map. I had no idea brothels allowed for takeout.

[QUOTE=HumanBeing1;2022199]OK true if you want to nit pick, but even on Sunday night we had absolutely no trouble locating attractive ones and negotiating them down quite a bit.
[/QUOTE]Are you talking about the ones in front of the liquor store? I spent a week in Medellin back in November and those ones were the only ones I saw. I only learned recently about Club Gusto which I will check out. Around what time do the prepagos come out?

I'm glad I have my friends with benefits. Because it's close to dead out here on the streets. The casa by the bus stop for the airport in El Centro was open for business yesterday but the lineup was weak. I made friends with the guys that run it. Super cool. The lineup there is never that good anyway. Semana Santa bring Medellin to a crawl.

Times like is when you need that network of semi-pro friends.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2022297]There's virtually no lower bound to how cheap a hotel can be in Medellin. I did my things with some girls taken from the street in the worst area of the Centro, paying the room 5 kCOP "por un rato" (I hope nobody will try to explain how to pronounce it, as it was done for Parque Lleras). In spite of that, I stay at Sheraton at Poblado. One thing is a quick deed, another is where I relax and live.

I would not recommend to dig the bottom of the barrel in choosing the hotel where to stay. Safety, hygiene, above all COMFORT are too important to enjoy a vacation.[/QUOTE]Yeah I found another hotel about a block or 2 from the Veracruz / botero block that was $8 a night but looked a little rough. LOL.

Hotel Botero Medellin was fine for me, TV / fridge / walk in shower /2 beds / A/C at $26 a night and about several hundred women within a 10 block radius available if you count all the street / casa / strip club girls.

My room.

No one will confuse Botero Plaza with a Disney theme park, but there is enough uniformed and plain clothes law enforcement there that you are unlikely to have problems if you are minding your own business. Illegal or alternative lifestyle providers are dodgy wherever you decide to get involved with them.

The Fase 2 thing is something I don't understand very well. I get it that there are women of above average attractiveness who are available for the cost of a couple of lap dances at an upscale "gentlemen's club" in Europe or North America. My suspicion is the core clientele are Colombians of strata 5 or 6 with something to prove and foreigners who feel more comfortable in the setting as compared to the casas & street scene. I think it's a bit of the same concept of Loutron, another place I don't understand at its core. It's about me, not about the places or their customers.

[QUOTE=HumanBeing1;2022199]OK true if you want to nit pick, but even on Sunday night we had absolutely no trouble locating attractive ones and negotiating them down quite a bit.

The whole Botero area was slimy to me. It was nice to walk around in the day but I can't imagine a scenario where taking one of the street walkers in that area would be a good idea. There were some very rough ones and many traps (both young girls and probable hidden penises).

Yup. Exactly the experience I had there. The prices were American strip club costs, I think it was going to be 160-200 to take one next door. They were very unfriendly. Immediately asked for us to buy them $10 drinks, when we denied they turned into total bitches. This place for me was the only blip on an amazing trip.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2022473]I'm glad I have my friends with benefits. Because it's close to dead out here on the streets. The casa by the bus stop for the airport in El Centro was open for business yesterday but the lineup was weak. I made friends with the guys that run it. Super cool. The lineup there is never that good anyway. Semana Santa bring Medellin to a crawl.

Times like is when you need that network of semi-pro friends.[/QUOTE]Semana Santa in Colombia is like Eid al Fitr (end of Ramadan) in Indonesia. Everyone stays with family and goes back to hometown.

[QUOTE]The whole Botero area was slimy to me. It was nice to walk around in the day but I can't imagine a scenario where taking one of the street walkers in that area would be a good idea. There were some very rough ones and many traps (both young girls and probable hidden penises)..[/QUOTE]My scenario:

I walked around the block, sometimes had to come back in a bit, found a hot cute 18-20 yo, followed her 1/2 block up to the short term "hotel", gave her 30,000 p (plus a tip), she got naked, we had fun. How does that not work? One of the ones I was with was a solid 8, and fun, kicked myself later for not getting her number. Which she offered but I forgot afterwards. The other ones were 6/7's. Yes they do have some older / fatter ones, just walked by them. Hard to see how it was not worth $10. I had 2 SA dates, 2 strip club dates and a Casa girl for comparison.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2022418] Is Linda's Chicas a brothel? I can't find it on the map. I had no idea brothels allowed for takeout.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is:

*Casa de Piedra, or Lindas Chicas, Calle 58 (Av. Oriental) # 50 a-54, Big White Metal Gate. 6 Chicas on the premises, at certain times, but has up to 100 chicas for you to choose from. Prices: Chica 100 k 1 hour, 80 k room fee, 170 k 2 hours, 100 k exit fee, 200 k chica, 275 k TLN. Hours: Nanci, the owner has a 24/7 operation, in which you can come by anytime and pick one of her 6 chicas or she will call anyone of 100 chicas that are available.

Springtime version of 3 kings day.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2022513]Semana Santa in Colombia is like Eid al Fitr (end of Ramadan) in Indonesia. Everyone stays with family and goes back to hometown.[/QUOTE]