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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1389316]Damn right on that. I recently saw an interview with an actor / singer. He said before he was famous women would not give him the time of day. He was always the ugly duckling. You always see people on the forum write,"Unless you look like Brad Pitt." Well Brad Pitt has always looked like Brad Pitt, but I have a feeling that before the world knew him and he gained fame and riches, most of the women he has access to now were off limits.[/QUOTE]I think some people say,"Unless you [U]are[/U] Brad Pitt." That's the phrase I use. In other words, you're famous, rich and handsome.
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[QUOTE=Aibolit;1389273]I think I defined in my previous posts what's model quality for me. I will repeat it here: young (18-23) , fresh-faced, very slim, gorgeous face and smile, GFE attitude. Doesn't matter how she's dressed, doesn't matter if she's not tall. A girl next door can be model quality for me. Playboy doesn't define that quality in my book. I think that based on the above-mentioned description. 3000 specimens in a meet market like AC can yield what I'm looking for.[/QUOTE]I've seen this type you describe in youtube videos of Angeles City bars.
I see them around the NEP area in BKK everyday when I go for a mere 15 minute walk. They are there at night as well. Why not follow & see where they are going?
In the last 8 weeks I've been regularly employing one like that with large tits who was almost free for a ST. I could have her everyday, but it would be so boring, even though she is close to perfect in every way.
But it might help if you post pics or vids of exactly what you're talking about. Should be good for a laugh, if nothing else.
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[QUOTE=Harold444; 1388875]Help me out here guys.
2 very depressing viwes of Bangkok, Thailand. LOL. Ballgame is nowhere near over fellas! What happened to thes e 2 guys is that BKK has passed them by.
A sports ex. A football coach who still stands by his wing t formation in USA football. Football is no longer a running game yet the guy laments why he isn't having any fun running up the middle. LOL.[/QUOTE]Once again for the hard of hearing, you can lots of fun in Bangkok and you can have sex with lots of girls, no one is saying you can't, but if you have been coming here for twenty years and have not seen major changes in the sex industry of this country then you clearly are not very observant or as I said before you can't see the forest because you have your face buried between the legs of some Issan lass. And that is a fine place for one's face to be. There are obvious factors at work and there are obvious trends taking place. They are generally not to our benefit. We have seen this take place in lots of countries that have moved up the economic ladder. It's happening here. But it may be years before it hits home. We may all be dead by the time it arrives. But it is coming and to deny it is just to ignore the world around you. That is all I am saying. And your football analogy is really silly. Without a good running game it's hard to have a great passing game.
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[QUOTE=Global Surfer; 1389293]I am planning to visit for a couple of days. Could any senior member recommend a tall gg that can offer GFE ST / LT from NEP or neighbouring areas?
Thanks[/QUOTE]There might be a few tens of girls as such available. The fun of BKK is also the "hunting", the "search".
Go out, visit the palces and select.
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[QUOTE=DRRonin;1389374]There are obvious factors at work and there are obvious trends taking place. They are generally not to our benefit.[/QUOTE]No doubt that things have changed a bit, but I would not say the sky is falling. Maybe the fact that you have aged has something to do with it as well. As a 40 year old Black guy who likes hip-hop music and discos I would say the trends are benefiting me like a mf. When I can go to the disco in Pattaya and get a FL for 1000 baht all night and have to put her out the next day, I don't see anything wrong with that. The other night I was chatting up a star and she said,"I know you live here and you know everything, but I need 2000 baht." I said well here is my number and you are welcomed to call when you come to your senses. But until then good luck to you.
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[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1389352]I've seen this type you describe in youtube videos of Angeles City bars.[/QUOTE]He's looking for sweet innocent cute girl next model types. Given its not exactly a magnet for ultra hot women, its well known in AC that the clubs routinely employ "cherries", and they may or may not be identifiable ahead of time, but they tend to be young and very cute, and they stay in the club. The nominal story is that they are virgins and therefore don't barfine, but in reality I think they're used to spice up the lineups. Maybe they hang until a super roller every few months show up and makes an offer they can't refuse. Seems to be a mystery of sorts.
At 2:45 note the tall, slender, innocent looking cutie walking on. She is probably a cherry. One never knows and maybe 1000 mongers have done her already, but cherries can throw off those vidos a bit.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djDqKhCtzGw[/url]
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[QUOTE=Harold444;1389401]I m staying one month smack dab in the middle of nana in an ok non upscale non name brand hotel for 15, 000.[/QUOTE]Central location? One whole month? 15, 000 baht? Are you sure that's not the hostel where if you actually survive the relentless all night mosquito attacks, they give you a free hug in the morning?
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1389390]No doubt that things have changed a bit, but I would not say the sky is falling. Maybe the fact that you have aged has something to do with it as well. As a 40 year old Black guy who likes hip-hop music and discos I would say the trends are benefiting me like a mf. When I can go to the disco in Pattaya and get a FL for 1000 baht all night and have to put her out the next day, I don't see anything wrong with that. The other night I was chatting up a star and she said,"I know you live here and you know everything, but I need 2000 baht." I said well here is my number and you are welcomed to call when you come to your senses. But until then good luck to you.[/QUOTE]I agree with you a great deal. A lack in go go quality, mp quality and so on would not affect me one bit as ibcater mostly freelancemaket. I can not tell from 20 years ago but from the last 5 or so and in my view the quality of girls hitting freelancejoints (disco, nightclubs) have not decreased. I think sometimes when I get back home. Wow this was greater than ever evrytime I come back to my gf back home in Norway.
But ofcourse I would never settled down in a banana republic (read definition) as Thailand so I get only to view this in my 10 to 15 annual trips to BKK and on occaition a day here and there in Patts.
Aibitol and his demand for highclass stunning pussy is well in reach but to make it easy for him self hit the regular upscale thaiclubs. I take for granted you are well groomed and dressed and havendecent looks and probably not overaged (no offence).
I can simply not get it people coming to LOS and don't have great time (once again I leave bargirls, go go girls and mp girls out bcs I have no clue). Only regular girls I meet through normal mechanisms and freelance is my land of expertice (I must do atleast 100 per year or so I have no statistic). This market is way better than I e Manila as I find the lack of asses or well porpotioned asses in phils way behind a thaigirl who is working out. Yes pinays are in a way more friendly but I don't fuck friendliness. I love both places BKK / MNL.
And I can not see any problem even getting a japaneese lokalike girl (left line) in Thermae. Maby the fellow mongerer went there to late. The only thing I ask a girl from here is to leave out the crying as maby I am from avarage to big sizeded dickwiced, still no need to cry. Moaning though I like, hehe.
I also come in good shape, just hit 40, make all into groome myself well and dress nicely. Meaning I don't walk out there hunting in nightclubs in shorts and flip flops but decent jeans, cool t-shirt and nice deodorant / eu de toilet smell. That helps I think. Prices also same now as for 5 years ago. Never had trouble getting ladies back home but as I love asian and south american (used to live in Caracas) I have one half pinay girl back home borned and raised in Norway though (and a few au pairs on the side) , hehe. I sometimes fuck up and don't get what I want as well.
Maby the girls simply have started going more or more on their own not wanting to have to answer to anyone (meaning freelancing) atleast not a demanding rude prick or mama / papasan and also work when they feel like it. Makes sence to me and I feel the freelancemarket is blooming bigtime in BKK.
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Definition of a sucker.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1389273]I respectfully disagree. First, NF in Moscow is for succers. Myself and many others find it far from model quality! Almost any top Moscow disco has model-quality girls. But again, what's model quality for one is non-quality for others. I think I defined in my previous posts what's model quality for me. I will repeat it here: young (18-23) , fresh-faced, very slim, gorgeous face and smile, GFE attitude. Doesn't matter how she's dressed, doesn't matter if she's not tall. A girl next door can be model quality for me. Playboy doesn't define that quality in my book. I think that based on the above-mentioned description. 3000 specimens in a meet market like AC can yield what I'm looking for. Of course, I'm also pursuing other angles to this chase. Angles that are a bit more sophisticated than Mr. Spizer's. (:Good luck to you! A[/QUOTE]
I can't afford spending $500 for P4P so it must be for suckers. That's not sound rationalization. Given I haven't been to Night Flight in many a years but the club I remember was full of model quality devs. And that's a known fact and from the periodic reviews I read still is. The girls of the former FSU were the closest thing that came to model quality in my years of mongering. For a while there almost every porn start was Eastern European. HAlf the models working the major fashion shows were of Eastern European heritage. Probably still a large percentage. Brazil is a close second.
I think the other problem is you definition is rather vague. Maybe its the language difference.
Model quality for most guys means a girl that could grace the pages of not Playboy, but the likes of Vogue, Elle, and the like. In trying to define the term I ran into this site:
[url]http://www.modelqualityintroductions.com/single-women-photos/[/url]
Of course it's in NYC. Probably where Rick Rock gets his girls when he's not on the front lines saving the world for mongers.
So in your definition: 18-23, you're not going to have a problem anywhere in SE Asia finding that.
"Fresh faced" What exactly does that mean? She just washed her face? I'm not being an ass but what does that mean? In model terms it's the latest greatest look but there's a whole industry that defines that. How does an average monger know what that means?
"Very slim" You will not have a problem finding that.
"Gorgeous face and smile" So who's definition of gorgeous? Mine? Yours? Frebbifan's? (not picking on you FF) I mean this is as old as mankind. For me Isabella Rosellini was the epitome of beauty. Some would pick Jessica Simpson, some Kim Kardashian, and some who knows who. (It's sad that google can correct Kim K's name spelling.) I will make one comment though, if you're looking for the perfect smile, stay away from AC. An orthodontist could make a killing there. I never picked a girl I didn't see smile first. My cock was in fear of the pain some of those mouths could inflict.
"GFE attitude" Not sure what this has to do with "model quality." I will go on record as saying that the correlation between looks and fun in the bedroom is non existant. My experience has been that the better they look the more likelihood that they will be lousy f*cks. But we still dream in the hopes of that beauty that will rock our world.
When I said this was a silly conversation I meant that it's to vague a criteria. It's like asking which is the best tasting food. I suggest you post some pictures of what your looking for and we can give a yay and or nay on weather it can be found in whatever location you're thinking of gong. Maybe head to NYC and try that service.
At the end of the day it's best to just go, experience, report. If it's to your liking. Repeat.
As I've just added too much to an already too much subject I'll add a picture for everyone to look at and maybe give the old guy an "atta boy."
This was the lovely that shared my bed last night. 5'7" 120, firm, very pretty (for my taste). The picture is hers. Not comfortable enough to ask her to let me take pictures yet. Very compliant. No money exchanged but that's what is being negotiated for the long term. Intelligent girl, very pleasant. Only complaint: A true blonde and she dyed her hair.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1389390]The other night I was chatting up a star and she said,"I know you live here and you know everything, but I need 2000 baht." I said well here is my number and you are welcomed to call when you come to your senses. But until then good luck to you.[/QUOTE]If she's a star, I will pay her demand of 2000 baht next September.
Sorry. I'm only there for a week.
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[QUOTE=Harold444; 1389401]I m staying one month smack dab in the middle of nana in an ok non upscale non name brand hotel for 15, 000.
You can't tell me prices are rising.
I didn't invent this but it really does apply to thailan. THAILAND has to much same same of everything. Too musch eyeglass shops, too many selling phones, too many selling fruit, too many hookers, the list goes on and on and on.
Too much supply prices go nowhere.[/QUOTE]Harold, The inflation rate in Thailand has been high for a few years now. Let's do the beer comparison. 80. 90 baht in 2000, with 100 baht the max. Now you are getting close to 200 in most gogos. 100% there man. I would say that most things here have gone up considerably. It it more than 100% more expensive to live in BKK then it was 10 years ago. You can't say that about the West. Thailand is booming. Property prices, again way up. In 2001 the nicest condos in Suk were going for 75k per sq mt. Now you are looking at 125 and up. You have to go quite far out to get 75k per sq these days.