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[QUOTE=Riina;2791515]If you're in north America, forget about Ukrainians. It's just not there. Kazak girls are getting visas into the country. Most are Asian but some are white Russian. Real needy girls too, just have to know where to look.[/QUOTE]And how would I come into contact with such girls? Ukrainian / Kazaks? I'm in the east coast.

Hi.

Does anyone have information or connection with girls in Ukraine who will travel to another cities (Warsaw, Budapest, ect.) to do several days escort?

Thanks for the help!

[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2858420]Hi.

Does anyone have information or connection with girls in Ukraine who will travel to another cities (Warsaw, Budapest, ect.) to do several days escort?

Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]There are agencies that will arrange this for a hefty price. The best way however is to have visited Kyiv and built a rapport with some escorts there, when they trust you, they'll happily travel to meet up. It does however mean you'll have to do some work on the ground first.

[QUOTE=VinDici;2858741]There are agencies that will arrange this for a hefty price. The best way however is to have visited Kyiv and built a rapport with some escorts there, when they trust you, they'll happily travel to meet up. It does however mean you'll have to do some work on the ground first.[/QUOTE]Can you share any agency contact information? If you know any.

Thanks.

With all the talk about the war in Ukraine coming closer and closer to an end I felt like exploring Tinder in Kyiv again and got premium for a month.

And boy oh boy. Seems like there was no war in Kyiv at all. I was kinda lowkey hoping for girls being a bit more desparate and easy going to match and meet but it seems the Tinder scene in Kyiv is actually quite tough these days. Anyone else has the same experience?

Seems to me that people in Kyiv are doing great and life is as usual to them.

Thought I'd give you some information from my stay in Kiev.

Most restaurants close at 22:00. Some at 23:00.

I have visited the strip clubs Dolls, Princess and Penthous. They close at 22:00 precisely. On Fridays they are open 30/60 minutes longer. But no later than 23:00.

It is a completely different Kiev that meets you now.

There is a curfew and a ban on being out after midnight. Uber taxi stops driving at 22:00 but there are others like Uklon who run at staggering prices.

The ladies and the clubs are nowhere near what they were. Princess knocks out Doll's many notches.

Dolls opens at 15:00 for those who have days off. All the girls at Dolls drooled on an escort to hotel. I understood the costs is 8,000 local for 2 hours. Princess has an hour deal for 6000. But not everyone goes out. There is depression in the air and meeting a smile is rare.

A private dance at Dolls was 600, I. E. 100 more expensive than before and Princess has raised the price to 800. I mean to remember that they were 600 before.

Does anyone know a taxi driver who can take a few trips to and from the massage parlors for a decent price?

Tinder is full of African / black ladies between Ukrainian glamor models. .

The alarm to seek cover goes off several times a day / night and it is clear that this affects the environment. Most people don't care and is tired of running for coverage. In other words, it looks like the population has lost some of their will to live?

To be here is an interesting experience, but not very sexy!

Be smarter than the girl and you'll have no problem. The best sex I've ever had in my life was with two drop dead gorgeous Ukrainians, one in Kyiv, one a student in a major European city. I paid both, they weren't cheap and I'd do it again tomorrow. We went where I wanted to go, did leisure things that I wanted, ate what I wanted, and slept where I wanted. I wouldn't say I have expensive take but I am willing to pay for unique experiences. Watching a 22 yr old girl experience her first 9 course tasting menu is priceless in my book and pays huge dividends layer on on the night. It's all about the experience fuck the cost.

[QUOTE=Rugga;2832403]They are all over European cities having the time of their lives. They are scamming local men who don't know the Ukrainian girl character and motives. These women go on dating apps meet guys get taken to expensive restaurants, bars, holidays even. And they dont offer any sex. They only want to use your wallet.

In the last year I've met this type of Ukrainian girls in Berlin, Warsaw, Krakow, Barcelona, London and Tbilisi. I know their game because I have been to Ukraine several times before the war. This is what typically happens:

You match, chat a bit, suggest meeting, she plays dumb and doesn't know this city, but she loves seafood or steak. Gullible local guy takes her out spends a lot on her. They continue chatting. Same on second date third date. And she is doing this to multiple men.

One example is in Berlin there are many Ukrainians. I matched agreed to meet and decide what to do. I took her to an ordinary cafe. Because I know she is very likely out to scam me if she can. After we go for a walk and she pops into pharmacy and gets lots of stuff. Suddenly her card doesn't work. She asks me if I can help buy medicine, hardly any medicine there, mostly cosmetic stuff. I say no sorry you'll have to sort your card out then do your shopping. We exit the pharmacy walk, she says she got a message must go and hops onto tram. Within 5 minutes I'm unmatched and blocked. Cunts. Relatively rich local guys are getting used by these 'poor refugee' girls.

Why do I go on these dates if I know what these women are about? There is a small chance you can establish contact keep in touch and she may take her pants down. And I have fucked two like this but only because I tempted them with a possible holiday in a few weeks time. Then regrettably my employer refused me the time off. Hahahaha ; )

Be careful with Ukrainian girls in European cities. Because old habits die hard and these girls are the most manipulative and cunning in the whole world.[/QUOTE]

Kyiv is undoubtedly the city with the highest working girl density I have ever visited. Before the war, there were plenty of nightclubs and bars where all these girls gathered.

I am of the opinion that it is still very easy to meet working girls in Kyiv. Many foreign journalists and other foreigners are in Kyiv at the moment and as noble and philanthropic as their work seems to be, it seems that even some of them find it hard to resist Ukrainian femininity.

In my opinion, tinder and mamba work great for finding girls. But even the classic nightclubs were very easy. Or as the writer below points out the strip clubs like Princess. I find it hard to relate when I read some people say that it is very difficult to find girls in Kyiv. But I'm not old either and maybe my appearance is on the better side. It might help some. ?

I would not say that traveling to Kyiv today is safe. They are at war, after all. But it's also not dangerous to be in the city in my opinion.

[QUOTE=MickyHow;2897230]In my opinion, tinder and mamba work great for finding girls. But even the classic nightclubs were very easy. [/QUOTE]Which clubs are the best for picking up girls?

[QUOTE=VinDici;2897332]Which clubs are the best for picking up girls?[/QUOTE]Before or after the war started?

Given the current situation, my actual knowledge of Kiev is better pre-war than post-war. The nightlife is also not quite the same at the moment as they have a curfew.

Below illustrates only my experience and perception and I am well aware that it may not be the same perception as others.

As always, I think you have to work with your own expectations.

It is of course possible to find girls who charge 100 and look OK. This has happened to me as well. But I think in general those times are over.

I had for some time regular contact with a really hot girl. Definitely a 9+. She told me that when it came to tourists she always played with them to get as much money as possible. But for locals it was a different price because they can never afford to pay the amounts that tourists can. I always got a discount from her and paid 100. She is very stunning hot, you know one of those girls that guys literally stop in the street to look at her. She may not have been the best in bed though, but her looks made up for that part.

So you can definitely find girls for 100. But I think you have to be prepared for the asking price to be 200-300 for 2-3 hours. If you do not have the financial possibilities, the market will of course be smaller.

Pre-war Kiev was definitely a very popular mongering city for foreigners. Being a foreigner can sometimes have advantages and sometimes disadvantages. At some nightclubs, the local crew in front of me has been denied entrance at the door because of their clothing, while myself have been politely welcomed despite very causal clothing. This is the jargon that goes around in Kiev and other countries as well for that matter.

But back to your original question about nightclubs and bars.

* But the former the*Lux or the. Fleur as it was renamed was a pretty safe bet. However, now permanently closed and do not know if anything new opened there.

* Buddha bar which was basically next door to the strip club princess was a well known spot for working girls. However, it closed for renovation and did not reopen before the war started, therefore still closed.

* Arena city if you feel comfortable hanging out in the same bars as local gangsters. But Skye bar is a well known nightclub where I think the reputation is a bit exaggerated. Again, it is possible to find working girls in many places and also at Skye bar but all are definitely not working girls there. I think it is quite overhyped as a nightclub but the girls are good looking. Quite many middle age Turks there as well trying to hit on 20 year old girls.

* Then I think massage parlors are quite underrated in Kiev. There are very many that are really good in Kiev. Of course, the service varies greatly from salon to salon. It has also happened that I have been kissed and even managed to get the phone number from the masseuse, maybe I was just lucky though.

* The rooftop bars in luxury hotels are also very underrated. Especially in the summer but it can of course be expensive with all the alcohol. In the largest hotels, you can sometimes find working girls in the lobby.

* and lastly, Mamba and Tinder. I found girls who offer full service including anal.

And yeah, Ukrainians are not known for smiling.

[QUOTE=MickyHow;2897453]Before or after the war started?[/QUOTE]Great write up, appreciate the intel.

[QUOTE=MickyHow;2897453]

Pre-war Kiev was definitely a very popular mongering city for foreigners.
[/QUOTE]No, it was not. Straight decline on a mongering level after 2012. Very hard to find a semi pro by 2015. By 2016, the city was flooded with affluent Western young people. Mongering in Ukraine is over and whatever remains will be a shell.

I wouldn't call it easy at all. Strippers / pros are available and I've made connections with a couple but it wasn't easy or cheap.

[QUOTE=Riina;2897706]No, it was not. Straight decline on a mongering level after 2012. Very hard to find a semi pro by 2015. By 2016, the city was flooded with affluent Western young people. Mongering in Ukraine is over and whatever remains will be a shell.[/QUOTE]