Kissing definitely not included at Artremis
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2360243]Sharks and Oase and many other clubs rate is 50/30 with kissing and natural BJ which is still very standard in Germany. Maybe not at Artemis Berlin but I never experienced there. At Oase, desk will inform You about this rate.[/QUOTE]Hey. Just wanted to add that most girls will tell you plain off that there's no kissing at 60 for 30 minutes at Artemis. Maybe its an add on. I am not sure but basic is CBJ and sex.
I am a regular at Artemis and have a select few who I go with and get the service I want all inclusive at 60 for 30 minutes and no upsell. I don't do anal or CIM which is an extra for sure but not my taste.
I still remember my first time in Berlin and at Artemis when the girl says what the fuck are you doing trying to kiss me. That's not part of it. I was so shocked that I just used my hand to finish and left the room embarrassed not knowing what the rules were.
Then figured out how so many men ask for kissing and the women would loudly say NO kissing. Just to embassy them.