FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2360385]I never ever had to pay extra for BBBJ at 50 EUR sessions in last 2-3 years. You just have to negotiate it before going into room. I only remember one girl who refused it. Out of many. And I mean many.

Of course there are some girls who only do 100/30, but that's a different story.[/QUOTE]I guess you have many sessions you could report on if you wished, but prefer not to. But I wonder if you might be willing maybe say whether you got the BBBJ service included in 50430 sessions: I am not sure if I have read your report correctly.This would help members like me who do not go to FKK so much

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2360065]On the Sharks website there is a note.

We build for you!

Until 22.08. 19.

Counter currently under renovation. Drinks in the outdoor area.

So looks like the bar will be back soon.[/QUOTE]I can't find this information on their website (maybe they deleted the information?) Can someone please confirm? Planning to make a trip really soon.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2360813]I guess you have many sessions you could report on if you wished, but prefer not to. But I wonder if you might be willing maybe say whether you got the BBBJ service included in 50430 sessions: I am not sure if I have read your report correctly.This would help members like me who do not go to FKK so much

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I do not go to FKK much either. In last 2-3 years I probably had 50-70 rooms, more than half of this with 2 girls at a time. Because it's always more fun for me. Some girls were / are sometimes repeated, so I assume probably 100 different girls, maybe a bit less or more. Say, 70% in Sharks, 20% in Oase, 10% in LR and GT.

Most of these sessions were / are 50430 for each girl. In all these sessions I always had BBBJ included. The only thing that changed after the introduction of new law is when I decide to take a girl to the room, I always ask something like "I hope BBBJ is not a problem for you? Answers may be "sure" or "I usually don't do it, but with you it's no problem", but it's always "yes".

I only recall one girl who insisted on extra, she got no deal from me. So 1 of maybe 100. I'm not Brad Pitt, I'm average looking guy in early 40's.

I'm always up to 50430. More than 30 minutes with the same girl is boring for me. I've tried 1 hour once but then just stopped it after 40 minutes. Too long. Next girl please. 30 minutes is a sweet spot for me.

I'm not a big fan of paying 100430, as service is the same. I've tried 50430 and 100430 with the same girls, just to see if it would be different. It's the same. Great provider is still great for 50.

Still some girls charge 100430 and just don't do 50430 rooms at all. It's alright for me if I'm really attracted to the girl or if I get some nice extra (for example I had 100+100430 session with Jessica and her friend (probably Eylis was the name, but I'm not 100% sure. Anyway they are hanging together a lot, so regulars can correct me if I'm wrong about the name). That was a major fun. The only time I've got real lesbi action in FKK during threesome. One girl would really eat other's pussy, not just giving "Romanian kisses" while being banged in doggie etc. Worth every penny. Highly recommended. Will probably repeat some time. Damn, now I recall how good it was and I think I will repeat it next time I'm it Sharks. I'm not that much attracted by Jessica's face (another girl is more pretty), but that threesome action was great.

With 100430 you obviously don't have to negotiate BBBJ. One girl (Vanessa) tried to give me CBJ in 100430 session (was not worth 100, it's no more than 50 girl). When she did it I've just laughed and said "WTF, baby? Are you kidding me? Take it away. " She laughed back and performed BBBJ with no problem.

So my summary is: BBBJ is included it 50430 sessions at Sharks with basically every 50430 girl if you dare to negotiate it.

The front page of the website still says "expected until 22.08" (translation).

[QUOTE=Optimist;2360884]The front page of the website still says "expected until 22.08" (translation).[/QUOTE]Thank you! Then I will maybe go this weekend.

I have been to FKK in Dusseldorf, Berlin and Roermond.

Do you guys know if the girls are back in the clubs around Frankfurt?

Would you recommend any club over the other because of the late holiday in Germany?

Have been thinking to visit Sharks, Oase and Mainhattan / palace.

Do you recommend me to make my FKK debut in Frankfurt in the end of September instead?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2360808]Apparently human saliva is more lethal than a dog's. That's why a doctor prefers to be told a patient has been bitten by a dog and not a human. So your conclusion is rational. Me, I just take my chances as to where the girl I am in love with for 30 minutes has been.[/QUOTE]Saliva kill bacteria. If I don't want to kiss a girl, I don't want to have sex with her and I don't want she touches me.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2360638]Why would visiting during the auto show be a bad thing?[/QUOTE]No, it will be full casting because girls want messe business, but messe give mostly business to Oase, Palace and a bit Mainhattan, more than Sharks.

IAA should be good casting time.

Thanks for checking Optimist. Good to know.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2360638]Why would visiting during the auto show be a bad thing?[/QUOTE]More guys than girls, skyrocketing price on Hotels etc.

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2360862]
So my summary is: BBBJ is included it 50430 sessions at Sharks with basically every 50430 girl if you dare to negotiate it.[/QUOTE]Thank you for typing all this up. As Optimist says, this helps the rest of us who don't go that often.

I put you in the category of the guys that exude confidence, seem fun, and are easy to be with. They generally get more than other guys. Maybe it's the way you look at the ladies, or how you greet. This is the essence of the YMMV, rubrik. Maybe they remember seeing you and so it's OK. You take two girls, so there is always the promise of more money spent later. It's easy and breaks up the boredom. The next guy could take one of the two girls and she looks at him and says NAH, CBJ, and that's just the way it goes. Maybe you show them a bit of respect when you talk to them. I seem to always luck out with kissing. Had girls say they don't kiss and tell me in the reviews not to include that they kissed me. (and I'm really old, maybe it's PITY).

There are so many intangibles, but bottom line, for the rest of us, is that if you ask for it and they say no, you understand that the next girl "might" say yes. I am sure we have all seen the type of guy go up and say 50 for 30 minute fuck, let's go and then they wonder why the girls starts out unfriendly or very mechanical. You have a quick amount of time during the meet and greet and the walk to the room to get them to feel you care about them. At least for 30 minutes. Ths goes a long way in this sex world. On the other hand, I think Kosher Kowboy in a Frankfurt post talked about a lady who wanted 10 Euros more for covered French: "Takes longer to get a guy to come". .

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2360928]No, it will be full casting because girls want messe business, but messe give mostly business to Oase, Palace and a bit Mainhattan, more than Sharks.

IAA should be good casting time.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by casting? Or are you say the girls will work at the others clubs and not Sharks?

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2357932]Here's another one I never realized. Chronic rejection. They chase us and we turn them down. Now even though they appear defiant, they are just as much affected by rejection as we are (when we approach girls in the real world). Or to put it another way, it's like when you are looking for a job and sometimes all you get is a string of rejections from the companies. They have to do this for every client. Repeat this for 5 or 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, I think it would take a toll on anyone. A smoke helps them combat the nervousness of approaching a stranger for a job and deal with rejection of employment.[/QUOTE]If a WG is legitimately above average attractiveness, even a 95 percent rejection rate at FKKs would not shake her self-esteem or as you say "take a toll on her". At a big club like Sharks, I would say easily 60-70 percent of the LU, if they were to be compared to civilian counterparts of the same age group, would be in the top ten percentile of physical attractiveness.

Let's say such a WG gets rejected by 30 mongers in one day and only gets two 60 min rooms. The very next day she can post something to social media and get 200 likes from various strangers. Or she can go to a civilian nightclub and have a one-night stand with a 25 year old civilian male who is physically more attractive than all 30 mongers who rejected her the previous day. Even a girl who is an optics "6" or "7" can create a profile on Tinder, and three hours later, she will have a few hundred to a thousand likes. Statistically there will probably be a man amongst those Tinder likes who is richer than all 30 mongers that rejected her the previous day. My point is that the rejection she faces in the FKK club can be instantly cancelled out by the positive feedback loop she receives the moment she steps back into the real world.

Also there could also be many reasons why a monger would reject a WG that are not due to her being ugly or fat. Sometimes it comes down to timing. For instance, my first 60-90 minutes, I may choose to say "no" or "maybe later" to every WG, simply because I want to survey the entire LU and identify my top three targets. I may so "no" to the hottest WG in the LU because my ATF just returned from a 18 month break. I may say "no" or "maybe later" to the second hottest WG in the LU, if for instance, (1) I just popped 30 minutes previous or (2) I plan to be in the club another ten hours that day, and I want to remain free and available for the hottest WG that day (I. E. Be ready to pounce as soon as her whale pays her at the money locker).

What hurts is the fact that she only made 200 EUR the previous day, not that 95 percent of the mongers rejected her. Now if we were to change the numbers slightly and say our hypothetical WG was rejected 30 times but got two five hour rooms, that same 95 percent rejection rate probably wouldn't affect her one bit.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2360905]Saliva kill bacteria. If I don't want to kiss a girl, I don't want to have sex with her and I don't want she touches me.[/QUOTE]Not always working well, what about viruses? Also I don t kiss girls that I pay for having sex it is not only a question of getting sick.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2360668]You don't have to think about that. What about when you lick her knowing that so many dicks fucked her?[/QUOTE]I hope the girls I am going with are not doing AO, therefor it is not the same for me than to getting DT without condom, or so many load of sperms in the month. For me the longest part of my FKK life is behind me, I am more focusing on normal relations, selected escorts, hopefully after so many years of mongering I understood that you just can buy mechanical sex which is a bit too short for me. For me me since 2017, when I started to control my sex addiction, so many other more positive things to experience outside the FKK scene like time to do more sport, time to have more hobbies, over landing for example, travelling around the world, more time for my family and on top of that I saved a lot of cash.

This repeating discussion of what's included in a 30 minutes session for 50 e is pretty much redundant by now. Anyone who is just average level in negotiating prices of any service in outside life, will also get the standard 30 min 50e service inside FKK, which includes BBBJ, DATY, DFK etc etc with only extra being CIM (50 e) and Anal (100 e) from almost all girls in any German FKK including Sharks, Oase etc. I got that in numerous visits in both clubs in last month and also this month. Only one girl in Sharks asked extra 50 e for BBBJ, obviously I didn't go with her. If I can get full standard service for 50 e for 30 minutes, any bozo can get that too, I'm not any smarter than an average bozo. But if anyone likes to spend more on the same service, that's his choice I guess.