Pattaya Reports

Pattaya-the Quickie bar-Soi 6.

Barely made it halfway through Soi 6 when I decided to go inside this bar, as so far the girls did not look that good. I was out at about 5:30 pm. There were couple of guys sitting there so I decided to go and have a drink. Most importantly the girls there at the time were the nicest looking-just to find out that one was married to one of the guys in the bar and the other was a girlfriend of the manager. Both men were very nice and helped me settle. Of course this place still had other decent looking young gals. But by sitting at the bar, I did not get approached by the girls, that were at the front. I guess I could have gone and ask, but I did not get the vibes. Later, after a second beer, a girl came to me pushed by another girl with a smoking body, Now this girl had a nice body too, and looked a little older-25 years old name Toni. After a while I told her I liked kissing, and eating pussy, as she seemed to be focusing mostly on the part of giving a blow job. Asked her what she does, she said everything. She was asking 1000 baht for the service (+300 for room). I knew it was on he high end but the fact she was willing to provide certain services I wanted, I accepted. Went upstairs to the boom boom room-not her own. Had a quick basin wash with her and then started with a major DATY that made her cum. She did a very fine BBJ. During this time she was giving nice DFK. Completed the session with a really nice cowgirl position. The great service and generally nice attitude of the girl made this a memorable experience. She also allowed me to take pictures of her naked-first time for me.

Walking Street.

Left for Walking Street at around 10:00 pm. I was able to see the famous characters and landmarks I have only seen on Youtube before. After walking up and down the street couple of times, I decided to check out Baccara. I was not impressed by the quality of the girls, and the show was mediocre. Also, the waiters were very pushy asking you to buy more drinks all the time. It just felt like an expensive strip bar, and none of the girls seemed to show any interest in me. I had one drink and left somewhat depressed. Next stop was Living Dolls which had a much better selection of girls. Again, I was just left sitting all by my lonesome-starting to miss the more aggressive Sosua girls. Eventually, a girl sat beside me and then another one came. The girl I settled for was named Ping who said she was 22, but I think she was older. After buying her few lady drinks, I asked her how much for LT. She said 4000, and I said no way. Eventually, she went down to 2000. The bar fine was 1000. After leaving we stopped off at the walking street bar-with the car on the side of the wall, which was enjoyable, and then back to the hotel. This is where I realized again that one is never too old to make an idiot of himself. This girl was cuddly and all, but even a blow job had to be covered. CBJ in Pattaya? She did provide a decent cowgirl fuck, but overall I was really disappointed. In the morning I took her down for breakfast as the hotel provided free breakfast for one guest and I was anxious to get rid of her. I did not even attempt to waste a second load on her, which I should be entitled for with LT. Better save it for someone else today. Another shocker was that she did not allow me to take a photo of her with clothes on. WTF. I know I should have negotiated all this before, but who would have thunk. CBJ and no photos with clothes on. Aside from getting another notch on the bedpost-all in all a disappointing experience on Walking Street. Soi 6 felt more relaxed and enjoyable.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1518107]Soi 6 felt more relaxed and enjoyable.[/QUOTE]Good to meet you last night.

My advice - Stick with Soi 6! You know what you are getting.

I wandered back to my favourite bar last night after we parted company and picked up a nice young thing for the night. She was very sweet, and very shy because she had some stretch marks on her tummy. We solved the problem by turning down the lights, and getting down to business. She was keen to wrap herself around me all night, which meant I suspect that neither of us had a good night's sleep. Up early in the morning for round 2, paid her off, and she strolled back to her apartment 2 minutes away.

[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1518194]Good to meet you last night.

My advice. Stick with Soi 6! You know what you are getting.[/QUOTE]Really nice meeting you too! I am working on my day 2 report, and so far I think Walking Street is a bit overrated. Tonight will visit other parts of town.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1518212]Really nice meeting you too! I am working on my day 2 report, and so far I think Walking Street is a bit overrated. Tonight will visit other parts of town.[/QUOTE]Walking Street is undoubtedly now a 'tourist attraction', with all the stuff that goes with it. A freelancer who charges 500 bht ST on Beach Road suddenly charges 1000 bht ST as she enters Walking Street. I rarely go into walking street nowadays, although there are a few attractions. I still enjoy the shows in Angel Witch, there are some raunchy bars, and there is undoubtedly some good eye candy about.

Today was 'School Child Day', or something, and the traffic was crap. I was heading for the Beer Garden for breakfast on my scooter and gave up in disgust around Pattaya Klang.

There was a party opposite my favourite bar in Soi 6 this evening and the noise was unbearable, so I moved on down. I met and remet a SYT at 'Sexy in the City', who explained that she was heading off to Hollywood Disco at 11pm. I went for an early session with her, which not only was extremely good, but also enabled me to catch the second half of Spurs vs Coventry. 1-0 to me and 2-0 to Spurs. Great results all round!

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1518107]I decided to check out Baccara. I was not impressed by the quality of the girls, and the show was mediocre. Also, the waiters were very pushy asking you to buy more drinks all the time.[/QUOTE]Can you blame them though?

I bet all the bars get their share of a-holes that walk in, sit, take up space, and oogle at the girls for 30 minutes, and then they just git up and leave never having spent a dime in the place. This is the nature of many guys who monger and those guys spoil it for everybody else.

If I owned the joint I would make sure anyone who sits does spend money, else they get the boot. If they drink slow, fine, just as long as they did spend money and do not nurse their drink for too long.

[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1518373]Can you blame them though?

I bet all the bars get their share of a-holes that walk in, sit, take up space, and oogle at the girls for 30 minutes, and then they just git up and leave never having spent a dime in the place. This is the nature of many guys who monger and those guys spoil it for everybody else.

If I owned the joint I would make sure anyone who sits does spend money, else they get the boot. If they drink slow, fine, just as long as they did spend money and do not nurse their drink for too long.[/QUOTE]I see where you are coming from but the push is often taking place when you still have some drink left or you just finished one.

I don't mind paying to stay and I understand drinking is the bar revenue. But they are acting just like willing to put a drink hose into your mouth so you dorm stop drinking.

[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1518373]Can you blame them though?

I bet all the bars get their share of a-holes that walk in, sit, take up space, and oogle at the girls for 30 minutes, and then they just git up and leave never having spent a dime in the place. This is the nature of many guys who monger and those guys spoil it for everybody else.

If I owned the joint I would make sure anyone who sits does spend money, else they get the boot. If they drink slow, fine, just as long as they did spend money and do not nurse their drink for too long.[/QUOTE]You would lose this bet because although there are no cover charge for bars, the unwritten rule is that you will have to buy a drink if you want to sit for 30 minutes. I have never seen anyone just enter, take up space and not buy a drink. I have seen people nurse their drink or finish their drink and still stay in the bar as the one drink minimum rule applies.

[QUOTE=BionicMan; 1518387]I see where you are coming from but the push is often taking place when you still have some drink left or you just finished one.

I don't mind paying to stay and I understand drinking is the bar revenue. But they are acting just like willing to put a drink hose into your mouth so you dorm stop drinking.[/QUOTE]I agree! I like to drink slow, not because I'm cheap, but rather I don't want a night of whiskey dick when I get back to my room and I like to simmer a good buzz, not get falling down drunk and lose my wits about me. They do tend to shove the drinks at you. I once ordered a beer, told the server I like to drink slow, gave him 150 baht tip. He nodded at me and left me alone for a good hour while I sipped my beer. When I lift, I dropped another 80 baht on the table.

[QUOTE=BionicMan; 1518387]I see where you are coming from but the push is often taking place when you still have some drink left or you just finished one.

I don't mind paying to stay and I understand drinking is the bar revenue. But they are acting just like willing to put a drink hose into your mouth so you dorm stop drinking.[/QUOTE]Yes, exactly that is what I really meant. My drink was quarter full when I was asked by at least two different waiters if I wanted another drink. Also, I was barely 15 minutes in the bar.

Pattaya-Day2.

After getting rid of Ping, I decided to have a shower and go out to check the Honey 2 massage parlor and the surrounding area of Soi Buakhao. As previously noted the viewing area of the ladies and the whole set up is quite classy and clean. There were about a dozen of the average girls and 4 of the younger set sitting in a separate section. These were for 3, 000 baht. Unfortunately, the last one was taken couple of minutes after I arrived. Apparently, new better quality girls were to arrive at 5:30 pm. I was really disappointed with another missed opportunity, so I walked around aimlessly without much success (yeah, I know how can one have no success in Pattaya-it gets worse) It was about 2:30 pm and pretty well giving up until this evening, I decided to walk toward my hotel across Beach Road. Lo and behold, I saw this cute as a button young number working the street. I gave her a smile and walked past to consider my next move. I decided to go back and chat her up. Within couple of minutes of my indecision another punter was talking to her but thankfully left. This girl named, Ann spoke better English than most of the Thai people I have met in Thailand. She is 20 years old, has got the cutest smile, had a kid when she was barely 18 and is working to pay for her cost of living and support her son and family (her story). Today was her first day at work after being away at home for a month. She asked 800 baht for ST, which given her cuteness was justifiable. She turned out to be as sweet in bed. Slim body, with a little bit of stretchmark, and small breasts. Great kisser with DFK, nice BBJ, came through DATY and finished off in a cowgirl position. Good thing I saved the load from my previous encounter. For a little extra she allowed for naked photos.

Later in the evening I connected with one of the ISG members who was kind enough to give me a bike ride to Soi 6, one of his favorite hang outs. We checked out some of the places on the Soi and eventually parted our way. He stayed on Soi 6 and I headed out home planning to check out Walking street later at night. My plan was to visit the Windmill and or seek freelancers. Unfortunately, I made one bad decision after another. Should have stayed at Soi 6 and go back to the bar I visited yesterday, should have said hi back to the pretty girl that greeted me at a Beach road bar, should have taken the other girl at the Windmill, and should not have stayed there until 3:00 am. One misstep after another and I ended up going home alone. One word about Windmill. Place is really small and all the girls appeared to be sick coughing. There were times when the place got exciting and other times it was bordering on being empty. Watching some girls insert objects inside them and a guy eating a girl at his seat was pretty cool. I am not sure what to think of the place, but have not ruled out another visit. The girl I chose was cute but lame.

[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1518373]Can you blame them though?

I bet all the bars get their share of a-holes that walk in, sit, take up space, and oogle at the girls for 30 minutes, and then they just git up and leave never having spent a dime in the place. This is the nature of many guys who monger and those guys spoil it for everybody else.

If I owned the joint I would make sure anyone who sits does spend money, else they get the boot. If they drink slow, fine, just as long as they did spend money and do not nurse their drink for too long.[/QUOTE]I have never been to a bar in Pattaya that allows guys to sit and not buy anything. I have seen them throw Middle Eastern guys out for trying that.

Hey Val,

Thanks for your report and glad you enjoyed Windmill. Its my favorite go go and I can't wait to get back there.

Roll on April!

I will be in Pattaya in March and would like to visit some more of the massage parlours during the day. Last year I had good experiences at Sabai Dee, Honey 1, Honey 2 and Dream Teen but I would be interested in hearing about any other options. Rasputin seems to get mentions. Any more?

Incidentally, here were my findings about Pattaya's massage parlours from last March:

1. Sabai Dee: 2nd Road near Big C. Girls 2000 or 2400 baht. L-shaped fishbowl. 50 girls at 9pm. The talent was mixed but some strong contenders.

2. Honey 1: located on Soi 11 off 2nd Road (nearly opposite Mike's Shopping Mall). Girls 2000 or 2500 baht. 25 girls at 4. 30pm, talent levels similar to Sabai Dee.

3. Honey 2: a few blocks from Sabai Dee on 2nd Road. Girls priced at 1800 and 2200 baht. 35 girls at 6pm (there were 50 girls when I left 90 minutes later). Despite the prices being the cheapest I visited in Pattaya, the quality of the girls was the highest in my opinion.

4. Dream Teen: Soi 21 off Soi Buakhao. Genuine massage shop where you get extras afterwards. 10 girls at 5. 20pm. Talent was average but a few were cute (definitely not teens though!). I had an excellent oil massage for 400 baht. The extras were hand-job 500, blow-job or body-to-body 1000 or 'all three plus boom-boom' 1500 baht.

5. Devil's Den: Soi LK Metro, off Soi Diana. Threesomes. 3600 baht for two hours with two girls (and multiple pops). Just 10 girls at 6pm but more from 8 onwards. Girls generally older than places listed above but some pretty ones and far more likely to get porn experience. Girls can be pre-booked from website.

The first 3 offer soapy massages, Dream Teen is more a regular massage parlour with 'extras' and Devil's Den is a threesome / fetish place. I took a girls in each place and they delivered great service.

[QUOTE=TellAll;1518505]I have never been to a bar in Pattaya that allows guys to sit and not buy anything. I have seen them throw Middle Eastern guys out for trying that.[/QUOTE]How about 20 years ago? I think it is a process of evolution which is why things are run the way they are now. F

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1518675]I will be in Pattaya . would like to visit some more of the massage parlours during the day.[/QUOTE]I am trying to take a page from your Pattaya handbook and go to a massage parlour every day before I start drinking too much. This guarantees that I get at least one pussy a day. Saw some stunning girls when checking out several soapies last night.

After last evening's disappointment and poor judgment, I decided to start the day with a sure bet and visited Honey #1 Massage. Lot of the ladies were quite buxom and large, not to my taste and only one girl was sitting on the special 3000 baht sideline. I decided to choose the skinniest fairly nice looking girl for my first soapy experience. Apparently, Indian men like the more well endowed, curvy ladies. The massage was 2500 baht. I was asked if I wanted anything to drink, and I said water only please. To my surprise it was not free and the waiter insisted on a tip. A bit of a turnoff. Don't order anything to drink, unless you really have to! The girl was 27 years old, Chinese / Thai mix with a skinnier body than I first thought. Her name was Tzaina? (sounds like China) , spoke decent English and relatively friendly. She had the smallest boobs I have seen so far, (not even a mouthful) but I am not a breast man, so it did not matter. While the water was running for the tub she trimmed my toenails and fingernails. It was like a salon experience. The wash, body massage was well done and professional, but it lacked sexual intimacy. When it came down to the nasty, she did not kiss and the blow job was covered. When I went down on her, her excitement sounded a little bit fake. Nice girl, but I would not repeat a visit. CBJ?

Determined not to repeat yesterday's mistakes, of course I ended up doing even worse. Went to my favorite bar on Soi 6 at around 6:00 pm to start my evening early. The girl I had a session with couple of days ago was there and since I liked her company I decided to hang out with her for a while and what I thought arranged a hook up with her friend. Not rushing I decided to hang around having few drinks which ended up to be too many by the end of the evening. My friend kept telling me that the girl I was interested in was not going with the guy buying her drinks, only to find out she was bar fined by him for long time. I was pissed off to no end, had few more drinks and that was the end of the evening, waking up in my hotel room with few bruises. I suspect I fell down somewhere, but cannot recall it. Blacked out by having too much of that smooth Hong Thong. Not my proudest moment. I have to go back to the bar before I leave Pattaya as I am not sure if I paid the bill. Should be interesting.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1518675]I will be in Pattaya in March and I would be interested in hearing about any other options. 5. Devil's Den: Soi LK Metro, off Soi Diana. Threesomes. 3600 baht for two hours with two girls (and multiple pops). Just 10 girls at 6pm but more from 8 onwards. Girls generally older than places listed above but some pretty ones and far more likely to get porn experience. Girls can be pre-booked from website.

The first 3 offer soapy massages, Dream Teen is more a regular massage parlour with 'extras' and Devil's Den is a threesome / fetish place. I took a girls in each place and they delivered great service.[/QUOTE]I did two visits to devil's den 3600B for 90 minutes with two girls. First session was great second not so good. They have well equipped rooms, all with love swings and the girls bring quite a few toys or will play with yours. In both session the girls catered to soft S&M activities (my favourite). (Kind of) recommended!

To make sure I was going to get some pussy today, I started by going for lunch and massage at Soi LK Metro. Outside a particular massage parlor (Aree I think-beside Cannon Massage) , I saw a cute little spinner who I decided to pick and have for breakfast which I slept through. Her name was Ba, she was 24 but looked 18 and wearing braces. Massage was 200 baht and full service was 800 baht. DATY; BBJ boom boom went all quite well. Money well spent. Will try to seek similar deal first thing tomorrow.

Being in a pretty rough shape, I took it easy and decided to check out the beer bar scene-place called Buppha, which at the time had a nice looking girl hanging out. Ordered couple of beers before three friendly countrymen showed up. The bar server introduced us and the evening was set. The guys wanted to look at the talent in the big soapies like Sabai Dee; Honey 1. There were some pretty attractive girls, but the boys just wanted to look. Instead the plan was to visit some additional beer bars. We settled at Lisa Bar, that seemed to have the nicest girls. If you buy a lady drink, the girl sits and gyrates on your lap. Not a bad deal. Three of the four present decided to choose long time including me. My girl was 24, cute and with braces. (2 girls with braces in one day) She also seemed to be the most energetic, friendliest and drinking her drinks the fastest. Lisa Bar has a 500 baht barfine and all the girls asked 3000 baht for LT. After all of us decided to get something to eat we went to check out a go go bar (I think it was called Beach Club) and my girl started to fade rapidly. Decided to leave the other two couples and we headed back to my hotel. She kept indicating that she wants to go to sleep, which was not a good sign. I was not going to pay her to sleep in my bed. She even tried to ask for money before anything happened. Yeah right. After undressing she did get pretty extensive pussy licking which she really enjoyed. A little BBJ and a pretty well spirited cowgirl. After that it was lights out, until she woke up at 7:30 am with a hangover. Even though she said last night she was going to stay until 9:00 am, I told her she can go now. Gave her some Advil for a headache and showed her out the door. Did not bother with getting any action from her in the morning. It seems both of my LT experiences disappointed somewhat. The value was poor, and service mediocre, and as much as I like to cuddle to a nice young body, I was glad when my girls left. Unless you have chemistry with the person, speak a little Thai or girl speaks English, LT could be a let down.

Hey Mouse1 your private message mail box is full.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1518900]It seems both of my LT experiences disappointed somewhat. The value was poor, and service mediocre, and as much as I like to cuddle to a nice young body, I was glad when my girls left. Unless you have chemistry with the person, speak a little Thai or girl speaks English, LT could be a let down.[/QUOTE]A girl with a hangover is never going to be fun in the morning. I'm a lightweight, so drinking a lot is not smart for me either. I think one of the biggest mistakes is to go drinking with the girls after you have bar-fined them. I've seen it too often: the girls get smashed and tired, you get tired, you might end up with some crap sex at 3am before she throws up, she won't perform in the morning, but you still feel obliged to pay the agreed money.

Come out with me tonight and I guarantee you a good time!

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1518881]After last evening's disappointment and poor judgment, I decided to start the day with a sure bet and visited Honey #1 Massage. Lot of the ladies were quite buxom and large, not to my taste and only one girl was sitting on the special 3000 baht sideline. I decided to choose the skinniest fairly nice looking girl for my first soapy experience. Apparently, Indian men like the more well endowed, curvy ladies. The massage was 2500 baht. I was asked if I wanted anything to drink, and I said water only please. To my surprise it was not free and the waiter insisted on a tip. A bit of a turnoff. Don't order anything to drink, unless you really have to! The girl was 27 years old, Chinese / Thai mix with a skinnier body than I first thought. Her name was Tzaina? (sounds like China) , spoke decent English and relatively friendly. She had the smallest boobs I have seen so far, (not even a mouthful) but I am not a breast man, so it did not matter. While the water was running for the tub she trimmed my toenails and fingernails. It was like a salon experience. The wash, body massage was well done and professional, but it lacked sexual intimacy. When it came down to the nasty, she did not kiss and the blow job was covered. When I went down on her, her excitement sounded a little bit fake. Nice girl, but I would not repeat a visit. CBJ?[/QUOTE]OK, a bit like my experience at Honey. I went for a 2000bht girl. I didn't order a drink, but was asked if I would get one for the girl. No problem; she had water for 60bht, and I was asked for a tip. I was rude enough to say no. As you say, the wash and body massage was curiously non sexual! But I relaxed into it and enjoyed it for what it was. The BJ would have been covered but to me that is worse than no BJ, so I didn't really bother, although she did a few mouthfuls immediately prior to insertion. No complaints. Ticked off my list.

[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1518943]A girl with a hangover is never going to be fun in the morning. I'm a lightweight, so drinking a lot is not smart for me either. I think one of the biggest mistakes is to go drinking with the girls after you have bar-fined them. I've seen it too often: the girls get smashed and tired, you get tired, you might end up with some crap sex at 3am before she throws up, she won't perform in the morning, but you still feel obliged to pay the agreed money.

Come out with me tonight and I guarantee you a good time![/QUOTE]LOL, still fell obligated to pay? You have no choice but to pay. The Thai girl will call the police if you do not pay. Yes they will come and she will get her money. My friend who has been going to Thailand wanted o see what would happen if he dot pay due o service. She called the police. It was either pay or to the police station to handle it. He decided to pay. Don't mess with thai girls. But actually any country when you refuse to pay the girl I think bad things with happen.

[QUOTE=Mouse1;1518943]A girl with a hangover is never going to be fun in the morning.[/QUOTE]Words of wisdom.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1518900].Lisa Bar, that seemed to have the nicest girls. If you buy a lady drink, the girl sits and gyrates on your lap. Not a bad deal. Three of the four present decided to choose long time including me. My girl was 24, cute and with braces. (2 girls with braces in one day) She also seemed to be the most energetic, friendliest and drinking her drinks the fastest. Lisa Bar has [u]a 500 baht barfine and all the girls asked 3000 baht for LT.[/u][/QUOTE]Ridiculous price, no? I thought beer bars were supposed to be cheaper than go-gos.

Is Pattaya still worth visiting next month on my holiday? I read on other forums that things have changed there. Beach road has been cleaned of girls, maybe locals try to make Pattaya a more family oriented place and clean the prostitution from there. Also thai girls in the north are now more and more educated and have many other options for working than going to bars in Pattaya. And this has led to the quantity and the quality of the girls there going down. And the age maybe +10 years higher. So bad development for mongers?

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1519150]Is Pattaya still worth visiting next month on my holiday? I read on other forums that things have changed there. Beach road has been cleaned of girls, maybe locals try to make Pattaya a more family oriented place and clean the prostitution from there. Also thai girls in the north are now more and more educated and have many other options for working than going to bars in Pattaya. And this has led to the quantity and the quality of the girls there going down. And the age maybe +10 years higher. So bad development for mongers?[/QUOTE]Don't believe a word of it. There are still more girls in Pattaya than you will be able to fuck even if you live to be 120. I never had any problem to find someone to my liking.

[QUOTE=Opebo;1519118]Ridiculous price, no? I thought beer bars were supposed to be cheaper than go-gos.[/QUOTE]They saw them coming and they got ripped.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1519150]Is Pattaya still worth visiting next month on my holiday? I read on other forums that things have changed there. Beach road has been cleaned of girls, maybe locals try to make Pattaya a more family oriented place and clean the prostitution from there. Also thai girls in the north are now more and more educated and have many other options for working than going to bars in Pattaya. And this has led to the quantity and the quality of the girls there going down. And the age maybe +10 years higher. So bad development for mongers?[/QUOTE]Yes, you are correct. There are only about ten girls left in Pattaya, all aged about 50, charging exorbitant prices. I have no idea why tens of thousands of guys keep coming here each year.

No, wait: Beach Road is heaving with girls, the bars and clubs are booming, and it is as fun as ever.

[QUOTE=TomSf;1518954]LOL, still fell obligated to pay? You have no choice but to pay. The Thai girl will call the police if you do not pay. Yes they will come and she will get her money. My friend who has been going to Thailand wanted o see what would happen if he dot pay due o service. She called the police. It was either pay or to the police station to handle it. He decided to pay. Don't mess with thai girls. But actually any country when you refuse to pay the girl I think bad things with happen.[/QUOTE]That is absolute crap.

I rarely negotiate a price beforehand, and usually pay afterwards what I think is a fair rate based on service, time, etc, and I have rarely had any complaints. When I have they can usually be sorted out with a smile, an explanation, or a compromise.

I am certainly not advocating not paying an agreed price, but if you agree LT and the girl comes back to your room and passes out, who would expect you to pay 3000bht or whatever? You have every choice of what to pay.

Don't forget that prostitution is illegal in Thailand, so the girl will not call the police. And I think it highly unlikely that the Police would have any interest in sorting out a private matter between you and the girl.

I agree that if you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the girls big time, then they may have other ways of getting their own back. I wouldn't know.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1519150]Is Pattaya still worth visiting next month on my holiday? I read on other forums that things have changed there. Beach road has been cleaned of girls, maybe locals try to make Pattaya a more family oriented place and clean the prostitution from there. Also thai girls in the north are now more and more educated and have many other options for working than going to bars in Pattaya. And this has led to the quantity and the quality of the girls there going down. And the age maybe +10 years higher. So bad development for mongers?[/QUOTE]If Pattaya or Bangkok thinks they can rid itself of it's nightlife and girl action and sustain themselves on family tourism, well, then vegas should close down all its casinos and do the same thing. It would be about equal results. And neither is going to happen in our lifetime.

15% of Thailand's economy is sex tourism. Yeah I know they report lower numbers like about 10, but it's higher. They save some face when they report those numbers.

[QUOTE=GettingTang;1519290]15% of Thailand's economy is sex tourism. Yeah I know they report lower numbers like about 10, but it's higher. They save some face when they report those numbers.[/QUOTE]I've never read a report or heard a claim by any knowledgeable person that tourism contributes as much as 10% to Thailand's economy. Six percent is a typical figure, and that is total tourism of which sex tourism is a very small percentage. Look at how many tourists are in Bangkok during the high season. Look at how many of them are sex tourists. As a percentage, not very many.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1519301]I've never read a report or heard a claim by any knowledgeable person that tourism contributes as much as 10% to Thailand's economy. Six percent is a typical figure, and that is total tourism of which sex tourism is a very small percentage. Look at how many tourists are in Bangkok during the high season. Look at how many of them are sex tourists. As a percentage, not very many.[/QUOTE]Well, there is this one:

[url]www.wttc.org/site_media/uploads/downloads/thailand2013.pdf[/url]

Although I agree that most sources quote 6+ percent. I've seen the ratio on male:female visitors quoted at 2:1 which would imply that at least one third are sex tourists (perhaps). That is a pretty large number in financial terms.

And of course most of the sex industry in Thailand is geared towards the local population, which again presumably has some economic impact.

Anyway, just saying that I can't see the authorities making any real effort to close down the sex industry in Pattaya or elsewhere. It seems to be flourishing next to the scene of Pattaya as a (Russian) family holiday resort!

[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1519332]Well, there is this one:

[url]www.wttc.org/site_media/uploads/downloads/thailand2013.pdf[/url]

Although I agree that most sources quote 6+ percent. I've seen the ratio on male:female visitors quoted at 2:1 which would imply that at least one third are sex tourists (perhaps). That is a pretty large number in financial terms.

And of course most of the sex industry in Thailand is geared towards the local population, which again presumably has some economic impact.

Anyway, just saying that I can't see the authorities making any real effort to close down the sex industry in Pattaya or elsewhere. It seems to be flourishing next to the scene of Pattaya as a (Russian) family holiday resort![/QUOTE]Don't want to argue about the size of the sex tourist industry. I think NGOs with a vested interest exaggerate its size. Your link appears to be to a document by a credible organization. Bottom line, I agree with the point you are making. The sex industry in Pattaya, Bangkok and elsewhere is going to be tolerated for the foreseeable future. The USA is a bit more hypocritical and inconsistent. San Francisco is cracking down on massage parlors claiming the women working in them are sex slaves, which may be true for a small percentage of the women working in a few establishments. Southeast Florida has a flourishing strip club industry with obvious prostitution rampant within the clubs. No one cares. Recently a fourteen year old got caught in one of the clubs. That caused a ruckus. The club got shut down. Otherwise the industry continues to thrive. Fortunately Thailand has a sensible attitude. The ladies choose to go into the business. The men choose the ladies. The ladies accept. Services rendered. Money exchanged. Everyone's happy. Capitalism at its best!

Started the morning by going for a walk on the Beach Road heading for someplace to get lunch with a sea view. My subsequent plan was to get a cheap massage with the works. All of a sudden a girl jumps out from the beach and gives me an enthusiastic welcome. It was my favorite freelancer-20 year old Ann. I could see she was glad to see me. During all my trials and tribulations I have to say she is my nicest encounter. I guess a change of plans had to be put in effect and I decided to have her come to my hotel for a quick session. Not disappointed, Ann gave a fantastic BBJ with CIM. Exchanged email addresses, facebook information and arranged for a second session for tomorrow. She'll be coming to the hotel early tomorrow afternoon for some boom boom time. Surprisingly she allowed me to take photos of her giving me head-for a little extra baht of course. After finishing our session she almost forgot the money, but did actually forget her earnings, that I returned to her couple of hours later after finally getting my lunch. Ann always stays in the same spot so it was easy to find her.

Returned to my room to get some much needed down time. By now, with all the drinking, lack of sleep and late nights, I am starting to feel like I have been burning the candle at both ends. Had similar experience in Sosua last August.

Met up with my countrymen at 7:00 pm for a few beers, and headed out to visit other Soi 7, 8 bars. Did not see anything special and it was already around 10:00 pm. Couple of the fellows decided to go home while me and another monger opted to check out go go bars at Soi LK Metro. Visited the Emerald, Champagne, Office and eventually settled for Bachelor Go Go which had some decent girls. It was around 12:00 and according to some of the girls, they did not manage to even get one lady drink. My friend found a hot little number while I picked a little bit plainer type in hope of better, more GFE service. There were two other girls trying to get my business at the same time, so deciding which girl to take was not easy. Again the outrageous 1000 baht bar fine and 3000 baht for long time. We decided to bite the bullet and go for it. After taking a moto taxi to my hotel we got into my room and it became clear that I would not be able to communicate with her, as her English was non existent. She seemed to be really shy and I started to get the impression this was going to be another disaster. After undressing we both got under the sheets. She barely grabbed my cock and started asking for a condom. When I asked her to give me a BBJ she did not seem to understand. From all of my three failed long time attempts, none of the girls I got from the go go bars went for a shower prior to the nightly activities. Everyone else I met had a shower or two. I have been reading on this thread about how clean Thai girls are. Well none of these three girls fit the profile. What are the odds. Not to compare, but this business of not taking a shower before the doing the nasty has never happened during my last mongering trip to Sosua. Seeing a total waste of time with this girl I gave her few baht and basically told her to leave. She seemed ok with it. It was only 2:45 am, so I headed to the Walking street with the goal of getting a freelancer for short time. Did not take very long and picked up a pretty nice girl on the street for short time at 800 baht. Had a great DATY session with her after of course she took a long shower (before and after) and really good cowgirl ride. This girl was pretty tight and had to use k-gel to lubricate. Thank goodness for freelancers, another disappointing evening in the making was averted. Will not try anymore long time during the remainder of my visit here. Hope to have better luck next time.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1519343]It was only 2:45 am, so I headed to the Walking street with the goal of getting a freelancer for short time.[/QUOTE]Call me Mr Boring, because that is what I am, but I was fast asleep and well sated, with a freshly-showered Sweet Young Thing from Soi 6 curled up next to me, while you were prowling the streets! Avoid the go-go girls!

Seriously, the best advice is probably don't do LT until you have tested the waters with a ST.

See you later.

[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1519364]Avoid the go-go girls!

Seriously, the best advice is probably don't do LT until you have tested the waters with a ST.

See you later.[/QUOTE]You are so right and I am so obtuse. Must be old age. How many failures does it take for me to finally get it? Looking forward to seeing you. Want to go to a go go bar-just kidding.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1519301]I've never read a report or heard a claim by any knowledgeable person that tourism contributes as much as 10% to Thailand's economy. Six percent is a typical figure, and that is total tourism of which sex tourism is a very small percentage. Look at how many tourists are in Bangkok during the high season. Look at how many of them are sex tourists. As a percentage, not very many.[/QUOTE]If you read closer, I said the figures are self=reported by Thailand. Hence, the "saving face"

If you're a guy and you tell ANYONE here in the states you're going to Thailand, they immediately think you're going for sexual reasons.

The ratio of male visitors to Bangkok is over 2:1. That pretty much sums it up right there. And keep in mind, lots of swinger type couples go to Thailand. Lost of lesbian women go, to play with the girls too.

Even those business men who go for legitimate business reasons will most often dabble in some nightlife fun on the side.

There is a reason the Thai government looks the other way and the reason is money. If the sex trade was completely done away with in all of Thailand, I'm guessing you would see at least a 20% drop in tourism overnight and it would dwindle from there.

Sit back and visualize Bangkok itself with the lack of free sex, no shows, no gogo bars, no massage parlors, no free lancers, no places to go and just grab a girl and really ask yourself, would you still go to Bangkok? Just to go?

[QUOTE=GettingTang; 1519543]If you read closer, I said the figures are self=reported by Thailand. Hence, the "saving face"

If you're a guy and you tell ANYONE here in the states you're going to Thailand, they immediately think you're going for sexual reasons.[/QUOTE]I don't know what percent of the Thai economy is attributable to tourism. I've always read and heard 6-7%. I think it is very difficult to calculate how much of that is sex tourism. I don't trust the figures from NGOs. Their incentive is to exaggerate. Whatever it is, I think it's considerably less than half. But I'm not going to argue the point. I'm no expert and I don't care.

We all know there is a significant sex industry in Bangkok and especially Pattaya, and elsewhere in Thailand. There are cities where you can find it, but don't even notice it if you're not looking carefully. In Bangkok it's apparent in a few locations; in most part of Bangkok it doesn't seem to exist, but still can be found in some of these other neighborhoods. It is conspicuous seemingly everywhere in Pattaya.

I've traveled to Thailand on business for a couple of decades. On almost every trip I've sampled a little or a lot of the sex industry. During the same time period I traveled to many other cities in other parts of the world and sampled the local sex industry. The sex industry is everywhere; has been forever; and always will be. In Pattaya's case it was a tiny fishing village that got turned into a big bordello by the US military in the mid 1960's. Got a few buddies who can tell stories about trips to Pattaya on leave in 1968. Can't imagine Pattaya without the sex industry.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal; 1519343]Started the morning by going for a walk on the Beach Road heading for someplace to get lunch with a sea view. My subsequent plan was to get a cheap massage with the works. All of a sudden a girl jumps out from the beach and gives me an enthusiastic welcome. It was my favorite freelancer-20 year old Ann. I could see she was glad to see me. During all my trials and tribulations I have to say she is my nicest encounter. I guess a change of plans had to be put in effect and I decided to have her come to my hotel for a quick session. Not disappointed, Ann gave a fantastic BBJ with CIM. Exchanged email addresses, facebook information and arranged for a second session for tomorrow. She'll be coming to the hotel early tomorrow afternoon for some boom boom time. Surprisingly she allowed me to take photos of her giving me head-for a little extra baht of course. After finishing our session she almost forgot the money, but did actually forget her earnings, that I returned to her couple of hours later after finally getting my lunch. Ann always stays in the same spot so it was easy to find her.

Returned to my room to get some much needed down time. By now, with all the drinking, lack of sleep and late nights, I am starting to feel like I have been burning the candle at both ends. Had similar experience in Sosua last August.

Met up with my countrymen at 7:00 pm for a few beers, and headed out to visit other Soi 7, 8 bars. Did not see anything special and it was already around 10:00 pm. Couple of the fellows decided to go home while me and another monger opted to check out go go bars at Soi LK Metro. Visited the Emerald, Champagne, Office and eventually settled for Bachelor Go Go which had some decent girls. It was around 12:00 and according to some of the girls, they did not manage to even get one lady drink. My friend found a hot little number while I picked a little bit plainer type in hope of better, more GFE service. There were two other girls trying to get my business at the same time, so deciding which girl to take was not easy. Again the outrageous 1000 baht bar fine and 3000 baht for long time. We decided to bite the bullet and go for it. After taking a moto taxi to my hotel we got into my room and it became clear that I would not be able to communicate with her, as her English was non existent. She seemed to be really shy and I started to get the impression this was going to be another disaster. After undressing we both got under the sheets. She barely grabbed my cock and started asking for a condom. When I asked her to give me a BBJ she did not seem to understand. From all of my three failed long time attempts, none of the girls I got from the go go bars went for a shower prior to the nightly activities. Everyone else I met had a shower or two. I have been reading on this thread about how clean Thai girls are. Well none of these three girls fit the profile. What are the odds. Not to compare, but this business of not taking a shower before the doing the nasty has never happened during my last mongering trip to Sosua. Seeing a total waste of time with this girl I gave her few baht and basically told her to leave. She seemed ok with it. It was only 2:45 am, so I headed to the Walking street with the goal of getting a freelancer for short time. Did not take very long and picked up a pretty nice girl on the street for short time at 800 baht. Had a great DATY session with her after of course she took a long shower (before and after) and really good cowgirl ride. This girl was pretty tight and had to use k-gel to lubricate. Thank goodness for freelancers, another disappointing evening in the making was averted. Will not try anymore long time during the remainder of my visit here. Hope to have better luck next time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing these detailed reports! Keep them coming. I for one really appreciate and enjoy reading such reports.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1519607]I don't know what percent of the Thai economy is attributable to tourism. I've always read and heard 6-7%. I think it is very difficult to calculate how much of that is sex tourism. Their incentive is to exaggerate. Whatever it is, I think it's considerably less than half. But I'm not going to argue the point. I'm no expert and I don't care.[/QUOTE]If the sex tourism amounts to more than 10 percent of Thai tourism I would be amazed. And I would include in that guys who sneak off for an hour away from their GF.

Except for concentrated sex areas, Sukhumvit, Pattaya (increasingly being overtaken by non-sex tourists) and small parts of Phuket, sex tourism is a minor contributor to the Thai economy.

Count the tourists away from Soi Nana on Sukhumvit and count the mongers on Soi Nana. 20. 1 genuine tourists.

747 and A380s are bringing shed loads of tourists in to Thailand for non-mongering holidays. Next time you fly walk down the 'plane and count the potential sex tourists. 1 in 10 would be generous.

This is historically true. And genuine mongers are moving more to other countries bored with lazy Issan girls thinking they are film stars.

[QUOTE=Scorchin;1519622]If the sex tourism amounts to more than 10 percent of Thai tourism I would be amazed. And I would include in that guys who sneak off for an hour away from their GF.[/QUOTE]Scorchin,

Personally, I think your guesstimate is more in line with reality; however, if a person's only exposure to Thailand was Pattaya, they'd probably think the country is one big bordello. I think the point of this discussion was not so much the size of the industry but its durability. I think most of us agree Thailand's sex industry is not going to diminish, let alone disappear.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1519625]Scorchin,

Personally, I think your guesstimate is more in line with reality; however, if a person's only exposure to Thailand was Pattaya, they'd probably think the country is one big bordello. I think the point of this discussion was not so much the size of the industry but its durability. I think most of us agree Thailand's sex industry is not going to diminish, let alone disappear.[/QUOTE]I think the real question we all want to know, is will there come a day when this industry is gone from Thailand?

Yeah, I know, it's the world's oldest profession and can be found in any country. However, there is no place like Thailand. The openness, the variety, a BJ, bar, various massage types, Thermea coffee house, Eden club, nana, and so on. It all leads to the appeal of a one of a kind experience. It's like the bar scene in star trek, it's a bit of a freak show and we mongers love it. It's walking into a bar where everyone knows you're they to pay for some pussy and no one cares and fully supports your actions. It's a little bit of a series of unique experience rolled into one place and essentially at your finger tips that makes it so great.

I am instinctually more attracted to blonde hair, blue eye'd bright pink pussy on very fair skin. I can get that on trips to Russia. Why do I still chose Thailand over this? Because of what I wrote above. The overall experience can't me mimicked or imitated anywhere. I hope it lasts for many years to come!

[QUOTE=GettingTang;1519636]I think the real question we all want to know, is will there come a day when this industry is gone from Thailand?[/QUOTE]Nothing is eternal. Even the dinosaurs disappeared and they were around for more than 160 million years.

[QUOTE=GettingTang;1519636](snip) It's like the bar scene in star trek, (snip)[/QUOTE]I think you mean Star [b]Wars[/b]

I have to break with tradition and side with Kouch on this one. I think you really need better data and someone who knows how to crunch numbers.

[QUOTE=GettingTang;1519543]If you read closer, I said the figures are self=reported by Thailand. Hence, the "saving face"[/QUOTE]So how much face are they saving and by what percentage and why? Thais' don't consider sex a bad thing, just the roaches from the north that they're forced to endure to keep sex areas humming. And remember, its ALL cash and who's tracking that and how?

[QUOTE=GettingTang;1519543]If you're a guy and you tell ANYONE here in the states you're going to Thailand, they immediately think you're going for sexual reasons.[/QUOTE]Hardly evidence of anything and not 'anyone'. I'the wager 70 percent of Americans don't know Thailand from Taipei.

[QUOTE=GettingTang;1519543]The ratio of male visitors to Bangkok is over 2:1. That pretty much sums it up right there. And keep in mind, lots of swinger type couples go to Thailand. Lost of lesbian women go, to play with the girls too.[/QUOTE]Sums what up? That most business travelers are male? I bet you don't even know many female business women traveling to Asia regularly and remember, Bangkok is a strong hub for Asian business and traveling business women are nonexistent from Viet Nam, Cambodia, Indonesia and other neighboring third world economies. Oh, and ever seen single female tourist in a go go? Insignificant at best.

[QUOTE=GettingTang;1519543]Even those business men who go for legitimate business reasons will most often dabble in some nightlife fun on the side.[/QUOTE]So what category do they fall into? If there was no sex industry in Thailand they would still have to go though maybe less willingly. Its sex tourism you're trying to capture, not businessmen who have to be there anyway.

[QUOTE=GettingTang;1519543]Sit back and visualize Bangkok itself with the lack of free sex, no shows, no gogo bars, no massage parlors, no free lancers, no places to go and just grab a girl and really ask yourself, would you still go to Bangkok just to go?[/QUOTE]No, but this is a sex board not a business traveler or tourist blog. You're sampling is a small square block radius relatively speaking. Thailand is a stable economy even if they can't get their democracy straight and urban sprawl and foreign investment is growing strongly and steadily. I bet most Thais' couldn't find cowboy on a map.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1519639]Nothing is eternal. Even the dinosaurs disappeared and they were around for more than 160 million years.

I think you mean Star [b]Wars[/b][/QUOTE]Ok, let me ask you this. On the whole, is the sex trade in Thailand growing or shrinking?

[QUOTE=GettingTang;1519683]Ok, let me ask you this. On the whole, is the sex trade in Thailand growing or shrinking?[/QUOTE]Who cares. You only have one dick. You can't fuck all of them.

My Beach Road girl showed up as expected for our planned session. Looking sweet as ever, I decided for Ann's special-her awesome BBJ with CIM. Since it was painfully good and rarely provided by others to such a high level, I was thinking of saving boom boom time for later. Again Ann was stellar. Knowing that I was leaving tomorrow, I was expecting some sob story, and I was not disappointed. Something about sick son in a hospital and needing money with paying for the bill. I think I have already heard that story before. If anything working girls can be quite predictable and not very creative. I was planning to give her a little extra anyway for treating me better than most, so I was prepared for it. She stayed a little longer, sharing some personal information and her future goals. Good luck to her. After giving her few more bahts I bid farewell to her. This is just a reminder that the best thing is not to tell the girls when you are leaving, especially the repeaters. They will undoubtedly come up with some story trying to elicit more money from you.

After a relatively quiet afternoon I met up with couple of ISG members for dinner and hopefully some carousing. Decided to go to Soi 6, where I think The O Bar has the nicest girls at this time. But I still had to visit the Quickie bar to see if I paid the bill. Apparently I did, and did not cause any problems. I was relieved and promised to return later. After we walked around the Soi, where currently does not appear to be too much talent with the exception of O and few individuals in different bars, we decided to split up with me returning to the Quickie bar where I fittingly used the brief services of a lovely 26 year old Mai. Nice slim body, face and blondish hair?

After a wash she proceeded to perform a fantastic BBJ while I put my tongue, whose strength has significantly increased over the last few days to a good use. With my precious bodily fluids at an all time low, a numb, but hard (maybe TMI) member I decided that a blow job would be the best venue for me to arrive at a successful completion. Good choice, as this girl almost gave me brain aneurism, swallowing most of my load. Just like sweet young Ann. Few minutes after we settled in the bar, Mai's falang boyfriend came to pick her up on a bike. Go figure. All in all a very satisfactory day.

[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1519664]Hardly evidence of anything and not 'anyone'. I'the wager 70 percent of Americans don't know Thailand from Taipei.[/QUOTE]You beat me to it Rj. Whenever I tell someone that I live in Thailand they say,"What's there?" And later on in the discussion refer to it as Taiwan. This has happened countless times. I think that because GettingTang has gotten used to being on the inside then he assumes that everyone on the outside knows what is going on in the inside too. That is far from the case.

A few months ago I was getting to know a woman who lives in my home city. One day out of the blue, she says I talked to my gay friend and now I know why you live in Thailand. I asked why. She said because you like those men who are dressed as women. I haven't said a word to her since. So because many ladyboys are in Thailand and I live in Thailand, her and her gay friend's common sense led them to believe... If that was the fucking case then there are a lot of ladyboys in my home city as well. Who would even need to go all the way to Thailand.

[QUOTE=Scorchin;1519622]This is historically true. And genuine mongers are moving more to other countries bored with lazy Issan girls thinking they are film stars.[/QUOTE]Some other words also come to mind.

Lacking in talents or skills in bed. [Relative to PRC & Vietnam sex workers I've met in SG.

Rude.

Star fish.

Mechanical.

Not a GFE. Not into kissing.

Clingy.

[QUOTE=GettingTang;1519683]Ok, let me ask you this. On the whole, is the sex trade in Thailand growing or shrinking?[/QUOTE]Since nobody keeps any official statistics, it is all guess-work. Over the many years of visiting Thailand, I did not see any significant long term change, but my experience is of course anecdotal. It looks there is more day-to-day change than long term change. You can compare it with weather and climate change: arctic storms in New York don't mean there is no global warming and the warm winter now in Europe doesn't prove there is global warming.

Some bars and clubs improve, other places decline. Your experience will be colored by the places you visited.

[QUOTE=GettingTang;1519683]Ok, let me ask you this. On the whole, is the sex trade in Thailand growing or shrinking?[/QUOTE]Nobody is keeping official statistics, but anecdotal evidence points to shrinking (at least for the Farang-oriented section of the industry). The scene is still huge and will remain so for a few more years, but there seem to far fewer new entrants to the market than just 5-8 years ago. You just don't see that many 20-22 year-olds these days. However, the established workers are NOT exiting in droves, and they're always the vast majority, and this leads many people to an impression that the scene is stable.

One thing I'm 100% sure about is that Sukhumwit and Pattaya Beach Road freelancer scenes pretty much took a nosedive compared to 5 years ago, let alone earlier times. Most sex workers these days are hardened pros, and finding low-mileage part-timers with a day job (or university students) is almost impossible. And it was somewhat common in the good old times.

I do not look at it as growing or shrinking? To me it is revolving! The problem is for short time visitors you just don't have luxury of waiting for it to come around again? What is certain is if you are waiting for the price to drop or thinking about how it use to be don't hold your breath!

Any suggestion on a nice guesthouse w / a pool 500 plus baht range no joiner fee?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1519150]Is Pattaya still worth visiting next month on my holiday? I read on other forums that things have changed there. Beach road has been cleaned of girls, maybe locals try to make Pattaya a more family oriented place and clean the prostitution from there. Also thai girls in the north are now more and more educated and have many other options for working than going to bars in Pattaya. And this has led to the quantity and the quality of the girls there going down. And the age maybe +10 years higher. So bad development for mongers?[/QUOTE]Hell yes. I was there in November 2013 and it's still paradise / heaven on Earth and far surpasses every other monger destination I've visited. And in November Beach Road promenade still had a free lancer practically next to every palm tree at the peak of the evening.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1519150]Is Pattaya still worth visiting next month on my holiday? I read on other forums that things have changed there. Beach road has been cleaned of girls, maybe locals try to make Pattaya a more family oriented place and clean the prostitution from there. Also thai girls in the north are now more and more educated and have many other options for working than going to bars in Pattaya. And this has led to the quantity and the quality of the girls there going down. And the age maybe +10 years higher. So bad development for mongers?[/QUOTE]Sounds about right. IMHO, Pattaya is a shadow of its former self. I predict within a few short years, it will not be worth the expense and trek to come out here for mongers.

To all of you on this forum who believe that Thailand in general and Pattaya in particular is going downhill; that the quantity and quality of the talent is diminishing; that the mongering scene is not as good as it used to be; (I've heard a lot of that sentiment lately here.)

let me just say that I've been living here six years now and this past year has been the best year of them all in terms of pure enjoyment of Thailand and Pattaya as a place to retire.

Last night I visited one of my favorite go-go bars, Baccara on Walking Street, and noted that the quality and looks of the girls has never been better. It just keeps getting better and better every year. I saw several absolute stunners downstairs and attractive new girls are coming all the time. It's like a conveyer belt full of lovely young girls that never ends and all of them can be had. Upstairs you'll find scores of young, cute and petite girl next door types that are particularly appealing to my tastes.

It's the same situation at all the Happy group of go-go's. Happy's lineup has improved vastly over prior years and there are dozens of pretty young girls to look and or bar fine, your choice. Beach Club is now far better than it ever was before. The place has been totally redone and the girls are outstanding. I like the Happy group bars because they have reasonably priced happy hours every night all year long from 8-9:30pm, and the bar fines, at 700 baht are still less than many other lower quality bars. As an older guy, I get a lot of enjoyment just watching the pretty girls. I don't have to be rutting them every single day like a sex starved tourist.

As far as overall mongering opportunities are concerned, I've not even scratched the surface of this town. Hell, I've not even been to all the joints on Walking Street, let alone the rest of what Pattaya has to offer. There are thousands of available hookers in all categories and price ranges from Jomtien to Naklua, Beach Road to the Dark Side, and all venues in-between. It's a cornucopia of pussy and new talent is arriving by the bus and trainload every single day.

I've observed several very attractive hookers hanging out on Walking Street who will go with you for less than half of what the Go-go girls want. Beach Road still boasts lots of skanks but you'll be surprised at how many young cuties can be found with a little effort. It's the same with Soi 6 and the beer bars; nice girls can be had for less than at the go-go's.

Then you have several choices of soapies, oilies, hole in the wall massage shops everywhere and BJ bars as well, some of which have decent looking experienced talent and new arrivals constantly. There is no way to partake of them all as there are just way too many mind boggling choices.

The weather has been beautiful this high season. The food is unbeatable anywhere and the prices, while rising over the last few years are far more reasonable than at any other comparable mongering or retirement destination on planet earth. I bought a nice high rise condo overlooking Jomtien Beach where I can watch the sun set every evening over the sea. I love it here and am living the good life on a lot less money that most people would ever think possible. As far as I'm concerned, Thailand and Pattaya are paradise on earth.

Now, of course, it hasn't been all honey and roses since I've been here, but none of the substantive problems I've had in Pattaya were caused by the Thai people. A fast lesson was learned, however, about the need to choose your friends carefully. There are all sorts of farang lowlifes to be found here that will turn on you like a viper at the slightest provocation. Aside from that one unnerving experience, life has been good for me here and I'm glad that I chose Thailand as my retirement home.

If any of you know of a better place to park, be sure to let us in on it, but for now I'm satisfied right where I am.

Regards, Daddy

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1521047]I do not look at it as growing or shrinking? To me it is revolving! The problem is for short time visitors you just don't have luxury of waiting for it to come around again? What is certain is if you are waiting for the price to drop or thinking about how it use to be don't hold your breath![/QUOTE]Did you mean evolving or are these little dizzier than ever?

But short time stay pleasure is what most here need, not wait and see. You guys that live there are different now. Like Sherlock Holmes you look at everything with a different eye and see things that visitors don't.

Why haven't you re-started an expat thread to share that perspective?

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1521843]. It's like a conveyer belt full of lovely young girls that never ends and all of them can be had. There is no way to partake of them all as there are just way too many mind boggling choices.[/QUOTE]Hello Dad, this is exactly what I want to hear. I will be there next year for a conference. I assume that some of those choices include slim and busty? (. V.)

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1520896]Nobody is keeping official statistics, but anecdotal evidence points to shrinking (at least for the Farang-oriented section of the industry). The scene is still huge and will remain so for a few more years, but there seem to far fewer new entrants to the market than just 5-8 years ago. You just don't see that many 20-22 year-olds these days. However, the established workers are NOT exiting in droves, and they're always the vast majority, and this leads many people to an impression that the scene is stable.

One thing I'm 100% sure about is that Sukhumwit and Pattaya Beach Road freelancer scenes pretty much took a nosedive compared to 5 years ago, let alone earlier times. Most sex workers these days are hardened pros, and finding low-mileage part-timers with a day job (or university students) is almost impossible. And it was somewhat common in the good old times.[/QUOTE]Yep, definitely shrinking and deteriorating from my recent observations. Pattaya is nothing but a shadow of its former self. I predict P4P in Thailand will no longer be worth the expense or horrendous travel to get there in a few short years!

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1521843]To all of you on this forum who believe that Thailand in general and Pattaya in particular is going downhill; that the quantity and quality of the talent is diminishing; that the mongering scene is not as good as it used to be; (I've heard a lot of that sentiment lately here.)

If any of you know of a better place to park, be sure to let us in on it, but for now I'm satisfied right where I am.

Regards, Daddy[/QUOTE]Since you are a respected contributor here, it is good to hear your take on Pattaya. It is especially good considering we hear much negative about living there. Do you go to restaurants often? Own a car or motorbike? I know eating out, especially at western restaurants, is fairly pricey in Pattaya. But to me it is part of the good life I hope to have in retirement.

[QUOTE=Allover;1522119]Since you are a respected contributor here, it is good to hear your take on Pattaya. It is especially good considering we hear much negative about living there. Do you go to restaurants often? Own a car or motorbike? I know eating out, especially at western restaurants, is fairly pricey in Pattaya. But to me it is part of the good life I hope to have in retirement.[/QUOTE]I've been looking at foreign retirement destinations for a while now. I live in the USA. Depending on your priorities there are options other than Thailand. If mongering is a high priority, Thailand is tough to beat. At this time it's where I'm planning to retire. Pattaya would not be my first choice, but I believe many guys would be very happy there. When I'm ready to make the move I plan to spend a few months in each of several different locations before I plant permanent roots.

Perhaps when I'm much older I'll no longer be interested in mongering. Then I might move somewhere closer to my children and grandchildren. Actually I hope I never lose my interest in mongering. I had a friend whose uncle had a severe heart attack. His doctor told him to give up sex. When he was released from the hospital he walked to his girlfriend's apartment, walked up several flights of stairs, started to have sex with her and died. My friend was certain his uncle planned to end it that way.

About to finish an over 6 months vacation in Pattaya, no doubt that the future is not bright for western guys. Of cause there will always be an excessive supply of providers but the type of tourists visiting the Holy City should worry most of us. The hordes of russians, by their sheer number only comparable to those of Dschingis Kahn are very unpleasant, they are mostly coming in couples or families, why can't these people just travel to Bulgaria or Turkey to get drunk? Chinese come in busloads, move in huge flocks. Indians worry me when I seem them hunting in packs (like they do in their homecountry) , make you really concerned for their prey and are certainly those who are most noisy on hotel floors as they use to communicate by shouting also in the middle of the night. All this seems to get worse from year to year and is certainly no good sign for the future.

Hi,

Can anybody tell me where I can pick mature MILF type women in Bangkok all the bar girls and go go girls and massage girls are in their twenties where can I get the 40+ women please help me as I want to be with a mature woman they are not rushing nor are they in a hurry.

Herd that bored sex starved Thai / expat housewife's hang around near mikes in Pattayya and Siam centre in BKK is it true.

[QUOTE=Lone Punter;1522163]About to finish an over 6 months vacation in Pattaya, no doubt that the future is not bright for western guys. Of cause there will always be an excessive supply of providers but the type of tourists visiting the Holy City should worry most of us. The hordes of russians, by their sheer number only comparable to those of Dschingis Kahn are very unpleasant, they are mostly coming in couples or families, why can't these people just travel to Bulgaria or Turkey to get drunk? Chinese come in busloads, move in huge flocks. Indians worry me when I seem them hunting in packs (like they do in their homecountry) , make you really concerned for their prey and are certainly those who are most noisy on hotel floors as they use to communicate by shouting also in the middle of the night. All this seems to get worse from year to year and is certainly no good sign for the future.[/QUOTE]OK, but what's your problem? I've just come back from a 10 day stay, and yes, there are more and more Russians, but they don't cause me any hassle, and they're certainly not competing for the girls. I didn't see any Chinese. Are you sure they weren't Korean or Japanese? And Indians I do think have some behaviour issues, but again not enough to cause me any problems. Perhaps you could choose a quieter hotel?

I had a ball.

[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1522685]OK, but what's your problem? I've just come back from a 10 day stay, and yes, there are more and more Russians, but they don't cause me any hassle, and they're certainly not competing for the girls. I didn't see any Chinese. Are you sure they weren't Korean or Japanese? And Indians I do think have some behaviour issues, but again not enough to cause me any problems. Perhaps you could choose a quieter hotel?

I had a ball.[/QUOTE]The Japanese, Koreans and Russians seen to stick along Beach Ave and Walking Street. Go inland a couple of blocks to Buakhao and it seems to transition more to Euros and Aussies but as Mouse 1 said "Ok, but what, s your problem?" I am here now having a ball also

[QUOTE=GoaTony007; 1522518]Hi,

Can anybody tell me where I can pick mature MILF type women in Bangkok all the bar girls and go go girls and massage girls are in their twenties where can I get the 40+ women please help me as I want to be with a mature woman they are not rushing nor are they in a hurry.

Herd that bored sex starved Thai / expat housewife's hang around near mikes in Pattayya and Siam centre in BKK is it true.[/QUOTE]Bars in Soi 4 will have quite some MILF or aged ladies. Even if they look 30/35 they might be 40+, but they will never admit that, even undere torture. Just go past nana Park and you will see bars tight and left with ladies inside.

Whether they rush or not, is another story.

Enjoy and report back

It has been a good few years since I have been to Pattaya, can someone tell me what prices are being paid for the girls. Bar girls, Gogo girls, Long time and short time prices. Also I will be going there next week at the tail end of the high session do the prices paid change at all from the high to the low session?

Thanks in advance for any advise.

What is the current situation in Pattaya. Are the bars and hotels being overrun by people escaping the protests in BKK. Or are people staying away for the same reason. I'm thinking about a trip in Feb and want to get an idea of the current situation in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=RoadGlide;1523544]What is the current situation in Pattaya. Are the bars and hotels being overrun by people escaping the protests in BKK. Or are people staying away for the same reason. I'm thinking about a trip in Feb and want to get an idea of the current situation in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I have the feeling some FL moved to Pattaya hoping for better pastures. Don't know of they found them greener, but for sure they thought so.

Does anybody know of any girls in Pattaya that do [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord137][CodeWord137][/url] (hardsports)?

Please PM if you can.

[QUOTE=Superboy1;1523755]Does anybody know of any girls in Pattaya that do [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord137][CodeWord137][/url] (hardsports)?[/QUOTE]Fetish Club 'BarBar' in Patpong, BKK is where you want to go.
http://www.barbarfetishclub.com/

I am sure they can and will satisfy all your cravings.

[QUOTE=Superboy1; 1523755]Does anybody know of any girls in Pattaya that do [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord137][CodeWord137][/url] (hardsports)?

Please PM if you can.[/QUOTE]You might try The Castle, fetish & bdsm type. It's on 3rd Road, come up from soi chaiyapoon, turn right (go south) and maybe about 150m on your left hand side.

Mtg

Most people reading this probably already know, but as of yesterday afternoon, all the bars officially stop serving alcohol, and most of them closed their doors.

A small percentage of bars appeared to stay open serving customers with the lights off.

Presumably, this sad state of affairs will continue until at least the election next week.

[QUOTE=Gelato; 1524036]Most people reading this probably already know, but as of yesterday afternoon, all the bars officially stop serving alcohol, and most of them closed their doors.

A small percentage of bars appeared to stay open serving customers with the lights off.

Presumably, this sad state of affairs will continue until at least the election next week.[/QUOTE]Bad bad info! Bars closed at 6pm and were to open at 2400 hrs next day, but around Soi Buakhao most had reopened mid afternoon, so not even a 24 hour closure. I am told the same closure for election day, so everything open till then.

What about February 14, then? It's some kind of Buddha Day. Does it mean that the bars are closed, even in Soi 6?

Not good for thai business anyway if they can't sell alcohol on Valentine's Day.

[QUOTE=Rogershinny;1524913]Where can I hook up with mature women in Pattaya. Looking for the MILF type must be 40+ bbw if possible office going women, widows divorcees who are sex starved or charge for sex. Will be staying near selection Beach Resort, Beach road Any places close by.[/QUOTE]1) Walk out of your hotel and turn left. When you get to South Pattaya Road (Pattaya Tai) turn left. Immediately you will see a club/disco called Bamboo on the right.

2) All up and down the sidewalk on the beach side of Beach Road.

3) Go to any bar and ask for the mamasan.

[quote=mr enternational; 1524937]1) walk out of your hotel and turn left. When you get to south pattaya road (pattaya tai) turn left. Immediately you will see a club / disco called bamboo on the right.

2) go to any bar and ask for the mamasan.[/quote]Does the mamasan come out and what is her barfine double or what?

Me and my friend went to BKK last Aug. Took Cathay pacific flight. Met some couples. In the flight. We all have a very good long hour of drinking in the flight. Even the air hostess got frustrated and brought the alcohol cart near our seats and told us to what you want to drink & left. In morning after 4. 30 hr flight touched BKK airport. Swarbhumi. Land of pussy. Cleared immigration & took 2 bus tickets of Pattaya 135 baht. We both knew BKK very well as we go there every year. Pleasure. 1.45 h ride in bus slept 1. 30 h in bus. Then came Pattaya. Took tuk tuk 50 BT and stopped 2nd road soi 13/3. Stayed at privi suites 3 nights for 1200 BT per night. With bfast. Two queen size bed very big room with Jacuzzi in bathroom. A good deal. Went for Thai massage in soi bukhao for 100 BT each. In this parlour only massage is offered. I know them well. Ate in Indian restaurant. 200 BT total. Went in room and sleep. Woke up 6 pm got fresh took bath and took two mahapatiala and to beach road. My friend liked one girl and want for longtime. She told 2500 BT. Lt. 1000 BT st. As a Indian. Good bargaining begins and settled for 1000 BT Lt. But she want to go with me. My friend told me OK you take her I will find another. Soooo many more girls in Pattaya as you all know. I took miss be in the room & my friend went for his hunt. Gave her I'd at the counter. Precautions. In the room offered her drink. She took a small peg only. After 10 min talk she felt more comfortable. Second peg. Now she took mahapatiala same as mine. I asked her why RU so formal in first peg. She told me as we both don't know each other its better to stay formal first but you have a good heart that's why I am feeling comfortable now. OK for me. I told her you want one more which she accepted. In 30 min. 3 peg down. Showing effects. Shower together and on bed she rode me very well true gf. BJ. She told me you can do anything. For 1 hr we fk very well. I called my friend on phone to come to room. He also took a girl for 1000 BT Lt. I told my friend to enjoy with your girl in room and me & my girl is going walkingstreet. Meet us there when you done. After hour they also joined us. Went to disco. Danced had lot of fun. I went for my second round in room. Great fk. Even did anal this time. Gave 100 BT to the girls & told them go eat and meet us in hotel lobby in 30 minn. OK. We both went to Indian restaurant to eat. After reaching hotel girls are sitting in the lobby and returned 40 BT. Only 60 BT for their food. My friend for 2 and round and her girl went home. Lt means 2 shoots for her OK for my friend he don't mind. My girl slept with me in my bed. In morning one more shot cim. Gave 1ooo BT & she went. Gave her no. Took ours. Next day.

[QUOTE=RogerShinny; 1524913]Where can I hook up with mature women in Pattaya.

Looking for the MILF type must be 40+ bbw if possible office going women, widows divorcees who are sex starved or charge for sex.

Will be staying near selection Beach Resort, Beach road

Any places close by.[/QUOTE]They are everywhere, freelancers on beach road at night, massage parlors specifically in & around walking streets & also look out for 'buakhao' area, just be keen-eyed to spot them in so many girls sitting in verandas. I was able to find some good matures out there but sorry no bbws. In regular soapy MPs you won't find any matures. Stay safe & have fun!

[QUOTE=RogerShinny;1524939]Does the mamasan come out and what is her barfine double or what?[/QUOTE]They are always out. I don't know about any stinking bar fine. I have never paid one. All of the girls I have ever had from a bar, I have always gotten their number and had them come over during non-work hours so as to avoid a bar fine.

[QUOTE=MRahul84;1525191]took two mahapatiala and to beach road….Now she took mahapatiala same as mine.[/QUOTE]Nice report. Looking forward to the next one. But excuse my ignorance-what is Mahapatiala?

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1526342]Nice report. Looking forward to the next one. But excuse my ignorance-what is Mahapatiala?[/QUOTE]+ 60 ml of alcohol is called mahapatiala in India.

After she left took more sleep and woke up 10.30 for breakfast. Me & my friend went to Privi hotel for breakfast. Which was good. We spend 1.30 h and went went to Soi Bukhao for oil massage 200 BT. Each. Felt really great and went to our room for shower and slept. Woke 3.30 pm and took tuk tuk 10 BT each to big C. Did some shopping and went to soapy massage parlor opp. Side of big see. Not many girls so went to Soi 6. Rome around there lots of Lbs. Started raining so took tuk tuk for the hotel. In room check end my phone 5 missed call from last night girl so called her she told if I want Lt. OK from me. After 15 min. She phoned me & said she was at reception so I went down. She gave her I'd. At counter & we went up. Littel drizzle outside so stayed in room & start drinking. Now she is more relaxed than yesterday so after 3 peg told my friend to go for a walk. He left and fun started totally gf everything in menu so did a hour fucking with her both satisfied. My friend called me & told him to come up. He went to lottita 700 BT BJ. He also got satisfied from their service. My girl start giving me some Thai massage and we had good time in our room. Went to walkingstreet in the night took dinner. She asked for 50 BT & went to eat near a food cart. After our dinner went to disco. Danced. Sooo many Lbs in wst. I went for 2 nd round in my room while my friend was exploring wst. My friend took a girl from beach road 500 BT st. Sleapt. One morning shot gave 1000 BT and she went. Happy. More to follow.

Has anyone encountered or know of any pregnant girls?

[QUOTE=Cloud Cloud;1526525]Has anyone encountered or know of any pregnant girls?[/QUOTE]There is a girl who advertised on CraigsList (BKK) who offered her services. Four or Five months pregnant. Not Thai but Filipino. So she said

My last day in Pattaya was spent at the Sabai Dee soapy. Hoping for good experience and squeeky clean body for plane boarding, I visited the establishment in early afternoon. There were at least 20 girls available. I chose #28 which at the time seemed like the most attractive choice. The cost was 2400 baht. Even when I said I did not want anything to drink they brought me water and coffee for the girl, for which of course I had to pay. Things started of pretty well, with the bath, and the massage, but nothing exceptional. My previous experience at Honey Massage was much better and even that was not that great. During this time #28 asked me if I had a Thai girlfriend. I said no and then stupidly added I had a family. This became a bit of a game changer, and the quality of the experience quickly diminished. When on the bed I asked if I could eat her pussy, she said yes for 1200 baht. After seeing my reaction she went down to 1000 bath. I could not believe it. I don't remember if I have ever been asked to pay for DATY. I should be the one to be paid. It seemed that she did not want me to go down on her, so I went through the usual CBJ and cowgirl ending. As we were leaving the room and met other girls she got all cuddly. Quite a performance, and overall a disappointing experience. Interestingly during both visits to soapies the girls checked out my body, sort of like kicking the tires before buying a car. The first girl also asked me if I had anyone, and when I said yes, she declined to kiss me saying that kissing should be for my SO only.

One thing for sure, I should have not said anything about being in any kind of relationship. The service may have been better. Both experiences definitely not worth it! However, it was an apt ending for my overall impression of Pattaya. For an absolute worshipper of the East Asian female body, it is difficult for me to admit that Pattaya was a huge disappointment for me. I feel though I was the architect of my own demise. Coming with super high, if not unrealistic expectations, ill informed, unable to adapt, along with some bad luck and good old stupidity, by the time I was leaving Thailand, I felt that I did not want to see another Thai face or hear their whining language for a very long time. Of course, I will be returning next year and I am even seriously considering learning some Thai. At this point I have to say that the highlight of my trip to Pattaya was meeting some awesome and super stand up guys and not really the girls. For what its worth, I will post my thoughts on Pattaya and its girls shortly.

[QUOTE=Jgm005;1526589]There is a girl who advertised on CraigsList (BKK) who offered her services. Four or Five months pregnant. Not Thai but Filipino. So she said[/QUOTE]Light bondage no fucking no cunnilungus no BJ she only teases you and a hand job to end 3000 for 1.5 hrs.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal; 1526593]My last day in Pattaya was spent at the Sabai Dee soapy. Hoping for good experience and squeeky clean body for plane boarding, I visited the establishment in early afternoon. There were at least 20 girls available. I chose #28 which at the time seemed like the most attractive choice. The cost was 2400 baht. Even when I said I did not want anything to drink they brought me water and coffee for the girl, for which of course I had to pay. Things started of pretty well, with the bath, and the massage, but nothing exceptional. My previous experience at Honey Massage was much better and even that was not that great. During this time #28 asked me if I had a Thai girlfriend. I said no and then stupidly added I had a family. This became a bit of a game changer, and the quality of the experience quickly diminished. When on the bed I asked if I could eat her pussy, she said yes for 1200 baht. After seeing my reaction she went down to 1000 bath. I could not believe it. I don't remember if I have ever been asked to pay for DATY. I should be the one to be paid. It seemed that she did not want me to go down on her, so I went through the usual CBJ and cowgirl ending. As we were leaving the room and met other girls she got all cuddly. Quite a performance, and overall a disappointing experience. Interestingly during both visits to soapies the girls checked out my body, sort of like kicking the tires before buying a car. The first girl also asked me if I had anyone, and when I said yes, she declined to kiss me saying that kissing should be for my SO only.

One thing for sure, I should have not said anything about being in any kind of relationship. The service may have been better. Both experiences definitely not worth it! However, it was an apt ending for my overall impression of Pattaya. For an absolute worshipper of the East Asian female body, it is difficult for me to admit that Pattaya was a huge disappointment for me. I feel though I was the architect of my own demise. Coming with super high, if not unrealistic expectations, ill informed, unable to adapt, along with some bad luck and good old stupidity, by the time I was leaving Thailand, I felt that I did not want to see another Thai face or hear their whining language for a very long time. Of course, I will be returning next year and I am even seriously considering learning some Thai. At this point I have to say that the highlight of my trip to Pattaya was meeting some awesome and super stand up guys and not really the girls. For what its worth, I will post my thoughts on Pattaya and its girls shortly.[/QUOTE]There is sometimes confusion in the names, Sabai Dee, Sabailand etc. I went to Sabai Room (has large Egyptian like pillars on building and is on 2nd Road around soi 3. My experience was similar and I would not return. I paid 2500 baht, she would not even let me touch her vagina and said no to DATY. All the time I was asking her she was massaging the outside of her vagina. I think we were out of the room within 40 minutes. Recommend to stay away. I also visited Honey 1 (2000 minimum, mamsan is very beautiful and young, I thought she was the best looking of all) and Honey 2 (1800 minmum) and would return to both, preference to Honey 2 (you can see Sabai Room across the street from Honey 2) both times DATY allowed and time would have been 60+ minutes.

[QUOTE=Bart1; 1526772]There is sometimes confusion in the names, Sabai Dee, Sabailand etc. I went to Sabai Room (has large Egyptian like pillars on building and is on 2nd Road around soi 3. My experience was similar and I would not return. I paid 2500 baht, she would not even let me touch her vagina and said no to DATY. All the time I was asking her she was massaging the outside of her vagina. I think we were out of the room within 40 minutes.

Recommend to stay away.[/QUOTE]Or you can also try Dream Teen massage for more hardcore action and better value for your buck. They also offer outcall service so you don't even have to leave your room.

[url]http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/ladies.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1526779]. More hardcore action and better value for your buck. They also offer outcall service so you don't even have to leave your room.

[url]http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/ladies.html[/url][/QUOTE]Sounds like a pretty good option. Will definitely consider during my next visit. Thanks

[QUOTE=RogerShinny;1526638]Light bondage no fucking no cunnilungus no BJ she only teases you and a hand job to end 3000 for 1.5 hrs.[/QUOTE]And if she does outcall she brings her husband along as her escort. Incall is somewhere near the BKK airport. When I got her email describing all the nonsense you mentioned (and more) I passed.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1526811]Sounds like a pretty good option. Will definitely consider during my next visit. Thanks[/QUOTE]Don't pick Yo at Dream Teen, no boom boom, no BBBJ. Nice looking though and a good conventional massage. She mentioned something about pain. Love to brag about my big member but it's not like I'm something. Like those giant porn dicks. Ah well as ever YMMV.

[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1526779]Or you can also try Dream Teen massage for more hardcore action and better value for your buck. They also offer outcall service so you don't even have to leave your room.

[url]http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/ladies.html[/url][/QUOTE]I was there. In 3 words avoid avoid avoid. Chica wanted 700 extra for HJ, when I asked if clothes off she wanted an extra 300 be to take them them off, so now we up to to 1300 [300 for 1 hr massage) , I paid for the massage and left. So for only 500 more at honey 2. I got 60+ minutes a soapie and full service, far better bang for the baht IMHO

[QUOTE=Bart1;1526891]I was there. In 3 words avoid avoid avoid. Chica wanted 700 extra for HJ, when I asked if clothes off she wanted an extra 300 be to take them them off, so now we up to to 1300 [300 for 1 hr massage) , I paid for the massage and left. So for only 500 more at honey 2. I got 60+ minutes a soapie and full service, far better bang for the baht IMHO[/QUOTE]That's one girl but there are places where the girls will ask for 1000 B for HJ. It's up to you to negotiate with them to get the best deal for yourself. I've always had a good deal from them so as with any other place YMMV.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal; 1518900]To make sure I was going to get some pussy today, I started by going for lunch and massage at Soi LK Metro. Outside a particular massage parlor (Aree I think-beside Cannon Massage) , I saw a cute little spinner who I decided to pick and have for breakfast which I slept through. Her name was Ba, she was 24 but looked 18 and wearing braces. Massage was 200 baht and full service was 800 baht. DATY; BBJ boom boom went all quite well. Money well spent. Will try to seek similar deal first thing tomorrow.

Being in a pretty rough shape, I took it easy and decided to check out the beer bar scene-place called Buppha, which at the time had a nice looking girl hanging out. Ordered couple of beers before three friendly countrymen showed up. The bar server introduced us and the evening was set. The guys wanted to look at the talent in the big soapies like Sabai Dee; Honey 1. There were some pretty attractive girls, but the boys just wanted to look. Instead the plan was to visit some additional beer bars. We settled at Lisa Bar, that seemed to have the nicest girls. If you buy a lady drink, the girl sits and gyrates on your lap. Not a bad deal. Three of the four present decided to choose long time including me. My girl was 24, cute and with braces. (2 girls with braces in one day) She also seemed to be the most energetic, friendliest and drinking her drinks the fastest. Lisa Bar has a 500 baht barfine and all the girls asked 3000 baht for LT. After all of us decided to get something to eat we went to check out a go go bar (I think it was called Beach Club) and my girl started to fade rapidly. Decided to leave the other two couples and we headed back to my hotel. She kept indicating that she wants to go to sleep, which was not a good sign. I was not going to pay her to sleep in my bed. She even tried to ask for money before anything happened. Yeah right. After undressing she did get pretty extensive pussy licking which she really enjoyed. A little BBJ and a pretty well spirited cowgirl. After that it was lights out, until she woke up at 7:30 am with a hangover. Even though she said last night she was going to stay until 9:00 am, I told her she can go now. Gave her some Advil for a headache and showed her out the door. Did not bother with getting any action from her in the morning. It seems both of my LT experiences disappointed somewhat. The value was poor, and service mediocre, and as much as I like to cuddle to a nice young body, I was glad when my girls left. Unless you have chemistry with the person, speak a little Thai or girl speaks English, LT could be a let down.[/QUOTE]After two poor experiences at massage places I went looking for Ba at Aree Massage, upon arrival I asked for Ba and was directed to one massage place past Cannon Massage. The Ba there did not fit your description as young. I went back to Aree and then remembered you said she had braces, arriving back a young good looking one with braces walked outside. I must have had a big smile on my face and she reacted similar. I said are you Ba and she said "no" I am Baree. I said a good friend told me to come visit you, she said what was his name. I said "John" she said do not know John. We had a great session, when I said I would like "boom boom" I think her clothes were all off before I said the second boom. Thanks Conqueror Val aka John. Great Chinese / thai cafe next door to Aree

In morning one more shot cim. Gave 1000 BT & she left. Sleep and after waking went for breakfast at Privi hotel. Ate and went for oil massage. 200 BT each. Came back in our room took bath and took a nap. 2 pm went for shopping near hotel & saw a beauty who I know from my last visit in Pattaya. Talk to her & she remembered me. Last trip she took 1000 BT Lt. I asked her if she want to come for same amount & she is OK with 1000 BT Lt. Great. In the room a long reunion sex. Total gf. My friend took a lady 500 BT st from beach road. When they came in the room I thought something is wrong with my friend girl. She look as a Lb. Which she denied. OK told my friend to enjoy & we are waiting for you in hotel lobby. After 45 min. My friend called me to come in the room. In the room my friend lady left as soon as we reached. OK. Now my friend told me a real silly incident. He told me as you left the lady took off her clothes except panty. She gave me bath & cleans me. She not took bath. In bed she start very good bjj. I took off her panty to verify if she is he. Pussy. Got relaxed. Did a lot rimming. & told me if I want to do anal. Put condi fked her ass. Really hard pressed her boobs tightly. Cim. Done relaxed gave her 500 BT. Now surprise. She told my friend while leaving she is lb. She look so beautiful no pennies. OK. We all started laughing. We started drinking. I want to see TV. Remote is missing. Guess who stole. Got drunk & went to see sexshow. 600 BT for 3 of us. Good deal with one beer each. Nice tricky show. Went for dinner. She also like Indian food. 300 BT bill. Disco. Danced. Rome around. Went for 2 nd shot. Some anal sex massage everything. She treat me very good. My friend went for his catch. After an hour he came empty handed. I asked him why. He told me now every girl I see I got confused may she is Lb. OK. Slept. One morning shot gave 1000 BT. She went. Start packing for Bangkok. Now BKK.

Since Bangkok was overwhelmed with mobs I decided to go to Pattaya for 4 days until my best friend returns from Phuket.

I booked a standard roomatNova Platinum hotel on 23/1/2014 for 4 nights got a high rate 2800 Baht since it was high season and all people are leaving Bangkok.

Hotel room sucked although I was upgraded to what so called deluxe room.

First night went to Mixx club on the left side the Russian section I spotted a hot uzbeki girl but I played cool until she

Was taken and that was my mistake during this trip even I'm Bangkok and Phuket I became very picky to the extent thst some nights I went to my room solo.

Second night I said it was week end Saturday night them the shock all bars and clubs are closed cause election kn Sunday WTF only Marine Disco was open nothing impressive.

Third night I managed to pick a nicy horeny TG from Mixx she got her own car well educated and stayed with me till next day for 2500 Baht.

She wanted to meet me again took her no with intentiom to not to see her agajm and I regret it cause I did not find a nice bird for last night kn Pattaya what a shame.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1527144]. a young good looking one with braces walked outside…. had a great session, when I said I would like "boom boom" I think her clothes were all off before I said the second boom.[/QUOTE]Good for you! She was a really sweetie. Thinking of her puts a smile on my face. I wish more girls would have been like her. It feels good to help a fellow monger.

[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1526779]Or you can also try Dream Teen massage for more hardcore action and better value for your buck. They also offer outcall service so you don't even have to leave your room.

[url]http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/ladies.html[/url][/QUOTE]Can vouch. Went with? Bee when I was there. Not as attractive as her photo, maybe a 6 in real life. Unshaven, had what looked liked scars from wrist-cutting. However, she we got 2 shots for 2000 baht, though she started at 3k and I think tried to get me to believe I agreed to that at the end. Good performer, BBBJ, multiple positions, she came with twice (seemed legit and makes things more enjoyable for me). Massage in between sessions, and she even got us iced coffees from downstairs (I paid but dirt cheap for 50 baht for two). Good fun overall and the requisite limping out of the place.

Is it just me or do you guys also have this problem? The letters on their website are in PINK and I can't read them. Is there a way to "adjust" to screen to make them more legible? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1526779]Or you can also try Dream Teen massage for more hardcore action and better value for your buck. They also offer outcall service so you don't even have to leave your room.

[url]http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/ladies.html[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunMan13;1527946]Is it just me or do you guys also have this problem? The letters on their website are in PINK and I can't read them. Is there a way to "adjust" to screen to make them more legible? Thanks.[/QUOTE]They are in pink but readable. Depending on what system (mac / windows) and the version you're using you may need to go into your control panel, settings and adjust your display settings. Or you could just copy the text from the website and paste them in your word or word pad program to read it in black text. You could also do a Google search on this topic where you're bound to get more than a few viable suggestions.

Does anyone have the contact information for Mr T taxi I seem to have lost it. I will be in Pattaya next month and need to arrange my taxi pick up from BKK.

Thanks,

Chris

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1528030]Does anyone have the contact information for Mr T taxi I seem to have lost it. I will be in Pattaya next month and need to arrange my taxi pick up from BKK.

Thanks,

Chris[/QUOTE]Deja Vu.

mr_ttaxi@hotmail.com

This is random, but I was reading a story about a guy marrying his PI bargirl, who he then took to Pattaya on vacation, and he said he wanted to take her to a Toro Toro show. I've googled it and can't figure out what it is, just in case I'm missing out on something awesome (or gross!) I figured I'd ask here. I've asked this in the Angeles thread as well, sorry for the double posting to those that see it twice.

Also, am headed to Pattaya in a couple of weeks. I've been there before, but one thing I wanted to know if it still exists. Are there any "shows" that involve, err, animals (even a fish or an eel I guess). Just morbid curiosity, I want to see that before its all outlawed. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Shoe.

Where is the right place to pick up mature (35+ 40+ 45+ age women) thai woman for companionship during my stay in Bangkok.

Please guide me to local pick up places in and around sukhumvit I would prefer thai office or working expats looking for some extra fun or bored thai housewives also.

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1528030]Does anyone have the contact information for Mr T taxi I seem to have lost it. I will be in Pattaya next month and need to arrange my taxi pick up from BKK.

Thanks,

Chris[/QUOTE]How late does he pick up in Bangkok with a ride to Pattaya? My plane arrives at 11:30pm. What is the rate to Pattaya from Suvarnabhumi?

Thanks,

Mark

I could not check out any MPs like sabai or honey during my last visit as rhey were quite a bit away from walking street area. This time I hope to stay near beach road, maybe at sabai wing or sunshine so would like to know if there are any good FS MPs nearby.

Also does anyone have any preferences or tips for better room at sabai wing vs sunshine?

I've never used him except in the middle of the day, but I suspect he can provide a ride 24/7: While it sounds like one very tired dude, he has many drivers working for him. I've never had the same one twice.

Suvarnabhumi to Pattaya= 1000 baht.

Pattaya to Suvarnabhumi= 900 baht.

[QUOTE=Margaya;1528629]Also does anyone have any preferences or tips for better room at sabai wing vs sunshine?[/QUOTE]And consider Sunshine to be better choice. Also the breakfast (ncluded) in sunshine is more to my taste.

No problem having a girl to participate in breakfast.

[QUOTE=Darmstadter;1528483]How late does he pick up in Bangkok with a ride to Pattaya? My plane arrives at 11:30pm. What is the rate to Pattaya from Suvarnabhumi?[/QUOTE]Go upstairs to departure level and pick a taxi there. 3 weeks ago I paid 900BHT, incl. Toll. Make clear during negotiations, that toll has to be included.

[QUOTE=TomSf;1518954]LOL, still fell obligated to pay? You have no choice but to pay. The Thai girl will call the police if you do not pay. Yes they will come and she will get her money. My friend who has been going to Thailand wanted o see what would happen if he dot pay due o service. She called the police. It was either pay or to the police station to handle it. He decided to pay. Don't mess with thai girls. But actually any country when you refuse to pay the girl I think bad things with happen.[/QUOTE]I know of many guys that did not pay and got away with it. Shame of them, of course.

It is not common for police to get involved in arguing between prostitutes and customers, actually if there is no sight of violence or theft, thye may not even show up

[QUOTE=JesseJames;1516446]Hope you have travelers insurance and notify the Embassy about your next of kin information.[/QUOTE]Get lost. If you can't drive, just don't bother those who can.

[QUOTE=Reiner Otto; 1528973]And consider Sunshine to be better choice. Also the breakfast (ncluded) in sunshine is more to my taste.

No problem having a girl to participate in breakfast.[/QUOTE]Thanks Reiner Otto.

Replies like this make it easier to decide.

Cheers

I came back tow days ago and have to say that I'm seeing much better looks in the traditional WS pub and Lucifer venues. Many look like hard game but certainly better than the monster collection of last November. One hottie looking raised two fingers as soon I approached, now beside that this is exactly the right way to send me away, I think is a reasonable rate for prime catch LT. Then I saw here walking home still in disco attire just around 1pm today, meaning she's a good girl that delivers.

For myself, not being in the mood for luxury, I got my petite friend that was happy to see me again. A very simple girl with almost no English, but respectful, mannered and jokeful, as well as accomodating in bed. Unfortunately I don't like her enough to elevate to regular. She told me not to say I've been doing her, as her friend that I was doing before, is now back from Europe, where she had winter vacations courtesy of an unsuspecting sponsor. Kind of posse rules, etc.

Will see what the future will bring, one can't be unlucky all the time.

Hi gents,

I will soon be in Pattaya again and was wondering whether anyone can give me advice on any must visit gogo bars, either on Walking Street or LK Metro (I've already been recommended Sensations). I like pretty girls with good attitudes. A year ago I was particularly impressed with Airport, Beach Club, Happy, Heavens Above, What's Up and Baccara on WS, plus Office and Paradise on LK Metro. Any others?

I'd also be interested to know if there are any recommended massage parlours, other than Sabai Dee, Honey, Honey 2 and Dream Teen (Rasputin?).

I will post a diary after my trip.

Lance

[QUOTE=FunMan13;1527946]Is it just me or do you guys also have this problem? The letters on their website are in PINK and I can't read them. Is there a way to "adjust" to screen to make them more legible? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Depends on whether your browser is IE or Firefox (I don't do google chrome)

This is for Firefox. I have no idea how to do this in IE but it's probably similar.

Open "tools"

Select "options" then "colors"

Select the TEXT color (I use BLACK) and the background color and

UNSELECT "allow pages to choose their own colors". Then click OK.

That annoying PINK is gone and the background is all white

[QUOTE=Dinghy; 1530069]Depends on whether your browser is IE or Firefox (I don't do google chrome)

This is for Firefox. I have no idea how to do this in IE but it's probably similar.

Open "tools"

Select "options" then "colors"

Select the TEXT color (I use BLACK) and the background color and

UNSELECT "allow pages to choose their own colors". Then click OK.

That annoying PINK is gone and the background is all white[/QUOTE]You can always just highlight the area you want to read or the entire page (hold click and drag) and it should be easier to read. That way you don't need to change any settings.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1527144]After two poor experiences at massage places I went looking for Ba at Aree Massage, upon arrival I asked for Ba and was directed to one massage place past Cannon Massage. The Ba there did not fit your description as young. I went back to Aree and then remembered you said she had braces, arriving back a young good looking one with braces walked outside. I must have had a big smile on my face and she reacted similar. I said are you Ba and she said "no" I am Baree. I said a good friend told me to come visit you, she said what was his name. I said "John" she said do not know John. We had a great session, when I said I would like "boom boom" I think her clothes were all off before I said the second boom. Thanks Conqueror Val aka John. Great Chinese / thai cafe next door to Aree[/QUOTE]I also went to check out this person. The only one with braces there is named Beer which she has tattooed above her right breast. We'll worth the time. She has been there nine months. Just tell her you got massage from her the last time in Pattaya or saw her when walking by.

[QUOTE=Margaya; 1528629]I could not check out any MPs like sabai or honey during my last visit as rhey were quite a bit away from walking street area. This time I hope to stay near beach road, maybe at sabai wing or sunshine so would like to know if there are any good FS MPs nearby.

Also does anyone have any preferences or tips for better room at sabai wing vs sunshine?[/QUOTE]Come on guys, are there no other Massage parlours other than Honey / Sabai / Rasputin etc? There got to be some FS ones near WS area.

Otherwise how do we have fun under the sun in Pattaya?

Are there any bars where FLs can be had from around noon such as BG in Bangkok?

[QUOTE=GaVoyager;1530157]I also went to check out this person. The only one with braces there is named Beer which she has tattooed above her right breast. We'll worth the time. She has been there nine months. Just tell her you got massage from her the last time in Pattaya or saw her when walking by.[/QUOTE]That is funny. I am sure it is the same person Bart and I visited. We may all have different names for her, but it looks like we were all pretty happy with her service.

[QUOTE=Margaya; 1530461]Come on guys, are there no other Massage parlours other than Honey / Sabai / Rasputin etc? There got to be some FS ones near WS area.

Otherwise how do we have fun under the sun in Pattaya?

Are there any bars where FLs can be had from around noon such as BG in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]If you can't find a bar with girls in Pattaya you must be blind. 1s and 2s, personality type girls all over the place.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1529907]Hi gents,

I will soon be in Pattaya again and was wondering whether anyone can give me advice on any must visit gogo bars, either on Walking Street or LK Metro (I've already been recommended Sensations). I like pretty girls with good attitudes. A year ago I was particularly impressed with Airport, Beach Club, Happy, Heavens Above, What's Up and Baccara on WS, plus Office and Paradise on LK Metro. Any others?

I'd also be interested to know if there are any recommended massage parlours, other than Sabai Dee, Honey, Honey 2 and Dream Teen (Rasputin?).

I will post a diary after my trip.

Lance[/QUOTE]Hi Lance,

I can recommend Airport and Living Dolls. Picked up girls there and service was great. Not so at Sensations.

Eric.

I would be visiting Pattaya around the month end. Anyone interested to catch up for a drink and discuss the common subject can please PM me.

Had a few trips in Thailand during my business trips in the last year. I got a lot of information from these forums as a newbie, and felt it was time to give my share of reports.

Trip 1. Pattaya.

Got off at BKK suvarnabhumi airport, connected to the free wifi for last minute information and took the bus on the first floor to Pattaya. I did not reserve a hotel in advance, so I got off near walking street to look for a hotel. I did read a lot of information on the hotels, but was overwhelmed on my first visit, and had to wing it. Stayed at AA hotel, which was a joiner-friendly hotel. They were helpful in setting me up with a ride back, and directions around Pattaya, but the place is fairly empty, and it felt like you had 10 eyes on you every time you return. (which made me feel nervous since it was my first time mongering) Very basic accommodation, and the standards weren't as good as I was expecting, first time in SEA.

Took a walk down Walking street, and was a bit nervous going into the clubs due to lack of research, hooked up on the way back up the beach road by a free lancer that was at most 20. LT for 2000. I remembered the service being very poor due to a bunch of complaints with "size". Being new at this, I didn't push it and I had my fill of 2 BBBJ with CIM, which also always ended up in a quick dash to the toilet. However, I found the highlight of the experience being the morning after, waking up with a hard on and promptly asking for a BJ felt like a waking up on Christmas morning. I had her take me around to a nice local breakfast joint via those motorbike taxi, and parted ways.

Day 2, I didn't want to venture too far with my luggage to upgrade my hotel, so I decided to tough it out for the duration of my stay. I tried a place called honey body, which was at the northern side of Pattaya, walking up the beach road but before the circular road at the northern tip. Had another wonderful experience, total damage was 2500, 90min. 1 shot, magical experience. Got her number and was tempted into trying her for the night as well. She asked for 4000, which I bartered a bit to 3500, given my damage the night before was 2000 only, however poor the service was.

Bought a phone card to call her, but didn't work out, I think she had a higher bidder, so I went strolling through Walking street. I ended up walking around a lot, because I was still not sure of what to expect in the clubs (lack of research) , and cowardly walked until it was almost closing time. I was around lucifer when I saw hoards of "couples" walking out, which made me feel a bit jealous. I noticed there were a few that was not paired on the side of the street, and they caught me looking. One of them came up to me to ask whether if I fancied one of the three, I chose the cuter one (that's my type) , and asked for a price. She said 2500 for LT, which I jumped immediately and walked home like a champion. As usual, I also check their age as I don't want one that is older than I, she turned out to be 22, which is a few under me. Surprisingly, she was shaved, and I had 1. 5 sessions with her that night. 0.5 being a self finish due to being out of stamina. She was a real spinner and enjoyed her time as well, much better than Day 1. Morning wood was taken care of without a complaint. Had her take me to another local restaurant, followed by some shisha and pool before we parted. I saved her contact for the future as she was one of the best lookers I saw on the trip.

Left Pattaya a very satisfied man via the Bell coaches.

I had the pleasure calling my girl from night 2 up to Bangkok again during my stop in January, but I will save my report for the other thread! However, overall, the accommodation was not very great, in comparision to my stay in Marriott in Bangkok, but the girls were around the same quality but a lot cheaper in my experience. (probably because I got a few bargirls in BKK and not Freelancers)

In terms of Soapy, I had a better time in BKK as well, the choices in Pattaya didn't seem as large as BKK. Services was around the same level.

I will definitely return to Pattaya next time to sample the bar girls to get a complete experience!

I'll be in Pattaya during the first part of the Songkran Festival. I'm reading in different places on the net that All bar girls go home during this time. I can't believe that there will be no girls in town at all.

Can anyone clarify this for me or should I fly to Phnom Penh or Kuala Lumpur for those few days before heading back to Bangkok.

Reached airport in morning via. Del BKK Thai air. On arrival visa got bus to Pattaya & stayed in Sailour bar 13/2. 600 BT. Big clean room with in room locker. Went to 7/11 for some cola water etc. Start drinking & went to beach road. Rain started & all girls went opp. Side of beach road. One girl made eye contact near Pizza Hut. Asked her for st. She quoted 500 BT. I said 400 BT. OK. She told OK let's go. In room offered her drink. Some chit chat & bbj starts. Put condi & fucked her hard. She offerer anal. Cool. Finish her in ass. Raining heavily outside so she stayed in my room & start drinking again. Some nice talking & another bbj with cim. Gave 500 BT. She took & left. Got some rest & slept. Woke up & went to Soi Bukhao for massage. 200 BT oil massage. Took some food & came back to room freshen up. Took bath. Took two drinks & went to hunt for night. Took very nice girl near Soi 7 for 1000 BT Lt. Fled her nicely for 2 hours in room & went to Walking street with her. Ate some food in beer garden with some nice view of the sea. In room for 2 nd round. Total gf experience. Gave me some Thai massage. Want to check disco so went to Marine. Shake our asses for few hour & went to room & slept together. One goodbye sex in morning with cim. Paid 100 BT. Taxi fare & she left. Gave me her & told me to call. Next to follow.

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[QUOTE=Darmstadter; 1530556]I'll be in Pattaya during the first part of the Songkran Festival. I'm reading in different places on the net that All bar girls go home during this time. I can't believe that there will be no girls in town at all.

Can anyone clarify this for me or should I fly to Phnom Penh or Kuala Lumpur for those few days before heading back to Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Some of them will go home indeed as Songkran is traditionally a family festival. But by no means will the town be empty of girls. There will still be more girls than you can ever hope to fuck.

Google "Pattaya songkran video" and enjoy! It is the largest wet t-shirt contest ever.

[QUOTE=FRHolmes;1530480]If you can't find a bar with girls in Pattaya you must be blind. 1s and 2s, personality type girls all over the place.[/QUOTE]FRHolmes,

Bars are okay but I was asking mainly about massage parlours and FL bars.

A friend is visiting Pattaya on a tight budget

He wants to experience a soapy massage.

Please recomend the cheapest soapy in Pattaya which is also nice and decent.

The ladies can be old but have to be bold.

Its ok if they have no looks but they have to go by the books.

Is everything in Pattaya shut down on Friday due to Macca Buddha Day? Not even possible to get laid on Soi 6?

[QUOTE=RogerShinny; 1530940]A friend is visiting Pattaya on a tight budget

He wants to experience a soapy massage.

Please recomend the cheapest soapy in Pattaya which is also nice and decent.

The ladies can be old but have to be bold.

Its ok if they have no looks but they have to go by the books.[/QUOTE]Tell him to try the cliché club on soi Charlie.

Isn't Sailor bar just a restaurant?

[QUOTE=MRahul84;1530572]Reached airport in morning via. Del BKK Thai air. On arrival visa got bus to Pattaya & stayed in Sailour bar 13/2. 600 BT. Big clean room with in room locker. Went to 7/11 for some cola water etc. Start drinking & went to beach road. Rain started & all girls went opp. Side of beach road. One girl made eye contact near Pizza Hut. Asked her for st. She quoted 500 BT. I said 400 BT. OK. She told OK let's go. In room offered her drink. Some chit chat & bbj starts. Put condi & fucked her hard. She offerer anal. Cool. Finish her in ass. Raining heavily outside so she stayed in my room & start drinking again. Some nice talking & another bbj with cim. Gave 500 BT. She took & left. Got some rest & slept. Woke up & went to Soi Bukhao for massage. 200 BT oil massage. Took some food & came back to room freshen up. Took bath. Took two drinks & went to hunt for night. Took very nice girl near Soi 7 for 1000 BT Lt. Fled her nicely for 2 hours in room & went to Walking street with her. Ate some food in beer garden with some nice view of the sea. In room for 2 nd round. Total gf experience. Gave me some Thai massage. Want to check disco so went to Marine. Shake our asses for few hour & went to room & slept together. One goodbye sex in morning with cim. Paid 100 BT. Taxi fare & she left. Gave me her & told me to call. Next to follow.[/QUOTE]

I've to finalize my destination either Bangkok or Phuket via Kol after getting some information from here. How is the situation at the moment in Pattaya & Phuket. Can we expect a trouble free drive form BKK airport to Pattaya or should I postpone my trip. Please advice. Thanks

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1531137]Tell him to try the cliché club on soi Charlie.[/QUOTE]Tried to google the place could not find it any landmark nearby.

Where is Soi Charlie?

Which road?

[QUOTE=Margaya;1531182]Isn't Sailor bar just a restaurent?[/QUOTE]Bro,

Its Sailor bar in Soi 13/2 next to a gogo. Nice room & total gf.

[QUOTE=RogerShinny;1531228]Tried to google the place could not find it any landmark nearby where is Soi Charlie which road.[/QUOTE]May be he meant "Soi Cheap Charlie"?

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1529907]Hi gents,

I will soon be in Pattaya again and was wondering whether anyone can give me advice on any must visit gogo bars, either on Walking Street or LK Metro (I've already been recommended Sensations). I like pretty girls with good attitudes. A year ago I was particularly impressed with Airport, Beach Club, Happy, Heavens Above, What's Up and Baccara on WS, plus Office and Paradise on LK Metro. Any others?

I'd also be interested to know if there are any recommended massage parlours, other than Sabai Dee, Honey, Honey 2 and Dream Teen (Rasputin?).

I will post a diary after my trip.

Lance[/QUOTE]My first stop is always windmill. I always have a blast in there and is very "hands on". I also like babydolls for when I feel like a tiny spinner and I also enjoyed spanky's but my wingman did not. Iron is good to watch the shows but to pricey to BF from and they really hassle for lady drinks

[QUOTE=MRahul84; 1531434]Bro,

Its Sailor bar in Soi 13/2 next to a gogo. Nice room & total gf.[/QUOTE]Accha, will look it up.

Thanks a lot.

Today as I left house I dodged a first checkpoint just to be caught in the second big one on Sukumvith just south of central. They had restricted traffic to one lane and stupid me I tought it was for roadwork. I didn't know that the highway police station is there. It would have been enough to just drive to the side or into an alley.

Document checks was staffed by these clowns of foreigners turist police. And they wanted everyone to have an international driver license or face the fine. 400 Bt.

That has really built up my contempt for both the Thai cops and these wannabe cops on a gunless power trip.

The rest of the day was not much better and so the night, I digged quite a few bad attitudes at Lucifer. But, much better to know these there than in your room.

[QUOTE=Andy7;1531225]I've to finalize my destination either Bangkok or Phuket via Kol after getting some information from here. How is the situation at the moment in Pattaya & Phuket. Can we expect a trouble free drive form BKK airport to Pattaya or should I postpone my trip. Please advice. Thanks[/QUOTE]Outside of downtown Bangkok you don't know there is anything going on unless you follow media. Biz in BKK and DMK airport as usual, just less people.

Traffic to Pattaya from airports not impacted at all. Better actually as less tourists...

Anyone willing to do these, please send PM.

I would prefer to use bell bus because they drop off at hotel (sunshine or sabai wing) but they don't have a bus for one hour. 389 does have a coach leaving airport at that time but they will drop me off on central Pattaya intersection, leaving me at mercy of taxi or baht bus drivers.

So is it OK and wasy to try haggling with baht bus taxi drivers or is it better to stay back at airport for an extra hour and get bellbus for hotel transfer?

Please suggest if you have personal experience.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Awesome Man;1531126]Is everything in Pattaya shut down on Friday due to Macca Buddha Day? Not even possible to get laid on Soi 6?[/QUOTE]There is no alcohol been served until midnight in virtually all the bars so very quiet really. Hopefully will live up later.

I was fishing around the walking street and saw a girl in T-shirt and jeans in a normal street outfit. My Jhonny was telling me that this was the girl for the day and I approached her and fixed the deal.

She gladly accepted and we walked towards my room. Chatted for a while to get comfortable and learnt that she is working in a parlor and seldom does this act.

Started with DKF. It was a extended DFK should have lasted more than 15 min with both enjoying each other and then BBBJ, I the mean while I was playing with her firm Boobs and pussy.

Started the act with her on my top and changed the position to misch and ended CIM.

It was an awesome experience and I invited her again for another night which she gladly accepted.

Damage: 600 bhatt for 2 pops.

Firm boobs and nice GFE!

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1532021]Anyone willing to do these, please send PM.[/QUOTE]please, explain.

Insomnia for the youngest crowd / freelancers, MIXX for the more mature ones (clients / suppliers) , and then WS2 for even older crowd. Of course, the ranges of age are not a dogma, just general observation. All discos on WS.

[QUOTE=Reiner Otto;1532055]please, explain.[/QUOTE]Is not difficult, send PM to hang out. I've been working these since years.

Had trouble in some go goes with bar fines, the situation is this I'am having a good time with a girl paying for lady drinks of course, also with the waitresses helping things along encouraging me to bar fine the girl, when say about an hour later when I've enjoyed my self and got a good chemistry going thinking would like to take her then she drops the bombshell telling me she was bar fined earlier in the evening, what a let down suppose you guys may think what a dum ass and not find out before but this happened to me 3 times in different go gos, think I am being scammed for lady drinks or my game just isn't working right, any ideas guys?

[QUOTE=Reiner Otto; 1532055]please, explain.

Insomnia for the youngest crowd / freelancers, MIXX for the more mature ones (clients / suppliers) , and then WS2 for even older crowd. Of course, the ranges of age are not a dogma, just general observation. All discos on WS.[/QUOTE]Where is MIXX, please?

[QUOTE=Cab Driver;1532103]Had trouble in some go goes with bar fines, the situation is this I'am having a good time with a girl paying for lady drinks of course, also with the waitresses helping things along encouraging me to bar fine the girl, when say about an hour later when I've enjoyed my self and got a good chemistry going thinking would like to take her then she drops the bombshell telling me she was bar fined earlier in the evening, what a let down suppose you guys may think what a dum ass and not find out before but this happened to me 3 times in different go gos, think I am being scammed for lady drinks or my game just isn't working right, any ideas guys?[/QUOTE]You are just being scammed. There is no game in bars just wasted time and money. That's why I never go there.

[QUOTE=Margaya;1530461]Are there any bars where FLs can be had from around noon such as BG in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]You can hunt for 500thb freelancers on Beach Road all day long but usually not the hottest girls. If you want sex during daytime go to Soi 6, some very hot bargirls and only 1000thb ST.

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1532291]You are just being scammed. There is no game in bars just wasted time and money. That's why I never go there.[/QUOTE]El Flaco,

Thailand is Disney land for men. It is a dream come true. But realize that it is an illusion and is not real. Thai woman will always rather be with Thai men. They work the bars and it is their job to get you to buy them over priced drinks. Then get you to bar fine them then get you to pay them for short time or long time. You don't need game with a hooker or stripper. Remember it is not real. Also the real dum ass is they sucker that send her money after he leaves monthly supposedly so she does not have to work any more. Also, thai woman give lots of BBBJ's always inspect their lips and tongue for cold sores before they give you a BBBJ. Because heaven can turn to hell very fast. Also, no matter how innocent she looks do not bang her without a condom.

[QUOTE=Cab Driver;1532103]Had trouble in some go goes with bar fines, the situation is this I'am having a good time with a girl paying for lady drinks of course, also with the waitresses helping things along encouraging me to bar fine the girl, when say about an hour later when I've enjoyed my self and got a good chemistry going thinking would like to take her then she drops the bombshell telling me she was bar fined earlier in the evening, what a let down suppose you guys may think what a dum ass and not find out before but this happened to me 3 times in different go gos, think I am being scammed for lady drinks or my game just isn't working right, any ideas guys?[/QUOTE]If that has happened to you 3 times, then you are defiantly doing something wrong. No matter who you are, that is unless you happen to be a young movie star, some of the girls are just not going to like you.

But, if it happened 3 times, almost assuredly you are not connecting with the girls and have to be doing something that is really outrageous and totally turning them off.

I suggest you tone down your behavior and start trying to be as polite as possible, and if that doesn't work, then something else is turning off the girls and I cannot help you.

[QUOTE=Bill Miami; 1532352]If that has happened to you 3 times, then you are defiantly doing something wrong. No matter who you are, that is unless you happen to be a young movie star, some of the girls are just not going to like you.

But, if it happened 3 times, almost assuredly you are not connecting with the girls and have to be doing something that is really outrageous and totally turning them off.

I suggest you tone down your behavior and start trying to be as polite as possible, and if that doesn't work, then something else is turning off the girls and I cannot help you.[/QUOTE]Couldn't you just ask first if they have already been bar fined?

Thanks for your comments guys, but the one from Bill Miami, you got completely wrong. I think I'am old and wise enough to know if a girl likes me or not, sure it's there job, but the vibe you get from a girl cannot just be pure fake, unless there just acting. I have bar fined many girls over the years, just had a run of bad luck, let's see what happens tonight!

[QUOTE=TomSf; 1532329]El Flaco,

Thailand is Disney land for men. It is a dream come true. But realize that it is an illusion and is not real. Thai woman will always rather be with Thai men. They work the bars and it is their job to get you to buy them over priced drinks. Then get you to bar fine them then get you to pay them for short time or long time. You don't need game with a hooker or stripper. Remember it is not real. Also the real dum ass is they sucker that send her money after he leaves monthly supposedly so she does not have to work any more. Also, thai woman give lots of BBBJ's always inspect their lips and tongue for cold sores before they give you a BBBJ. Because heaven can turn to hell very fast. Also, no matter how innocent she looks do not bang her without a condom.[/QUOTE]All good and great but just look at the flow of the conversation before throwing sermons, because I'm not the one that complained about anything.

[QUOTE=Bill Miami;1532352]I suggest you tone down your behavior and start trying to be as polite as possible, and if that doesn't work, then something else is turning off the girls and I cannot help you.[/QUOTE]How do you know which behavoir this guy had, you wasn't there. Beside I've seen than most often that not, polite guys are taken for a hard ride expoiting their attitude. Anyway, many bar and go-go girls, especially the fine ones clain the right of not going, while still retaining the one of fleecing for drinks. Once again, don't go to bars, problem solved.

"Also, thai woman give lots of BBBJ's always inspect their lips and tongue for cold sores before they give you a BBBJ. Because heaven can turn to hell very fast. Also, no matter how innocent she looks do not bang her without a condom".

Using the condom is true, at least for me. But the oral examination, really. I can picture myself sitting next a girl at a bar or anywhere and hearing " Honey open your mouth and I will get my dental mirror and check to see if you have any problems in there." Say Ahhh.

Maybe she can get out the rubber gloves and ask to inspect your private area also if you wanted it sucked.

But I do understand you want to be safe

[QUOTE=Cab Driver;1532103]Had trouble in some go goes with bar fines, the situation is this I'am having a good time with a girl paying for lady drinks of course, also with the waitresses helping things along encouraging me to bar fine the girl, when say about an hour later when I've enjoyed my self and got a good chemistry going thinking would like to take her then she drops the bombshell telling me she was bar fined earlier in the evening, what a let down suppose you guys may think what a dum ass and not find out before but this happened to me 3 times in different go gos, think I am being scammed for lady drinks or my game just isn't working right, any ideas guys?[/QUOTE]That happened to me once a few years ago in the gogo in WS with the tub on the left side of the entrance where two or three girls bathe themselves and each other. I saw this girl with a great body and motioned her to come sit with me when her time in the tub was over. She did and I bought her a lady drink. A few minutes later I asked about bar fining her and she said that she had already been bar fined. I told her she could go and went to the bar area to talk to a manager. I asked why was she allowed to have me buy her a lady drink when she was unavailable to be bar fined. The manager refunded the cost of the lady drink and I left. However, had I bought her a number of lady drinks, that probably would have not happened.

As Simonwagstaff posted, the time to find out if she is available to be bar fined (and, even more importantly, willing to go with you) is not after an hour of buying lady drinks but before you by her anything. The lady drink should be bought after to seal the deal you negotiated, not before.

[QUOTE=Margaya;1532041]So is it OK and wasy to try haggling with baht bus taxi drivers or is it better to stay back at airport for an extra hour and get bellbus for hotel transfer?[/QUOTE]Questions like that go beyond the realm of human mind and are really the biggest waste of space and time on a monger's board.

It's your money, it's your time, do what you want with it but please post on tripadvisor about your transfer by bus / taxi / motorbike experience next time.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1532449]As Simonwagstaff posted, the time to find out if she is available to be bar fined (and, even more importantly, willing to go with you) is not after an hour of buying lady drinks but before you by her anything. The lady drink should be bought after to seal the deal you negotiated, not before.[/QUOTE]And what would be the point anyway? To give money to someone that exploits prostitution? If you want to drink go to a regular bar where drinks are the same price for anyone and there is no pressure. If you want to give money to the woman, give it to her. Don't buy the bullshit of the drinks quota, a 200 Bt tip is worth 10 times more to a bargirl. I will never understand why men inThailand like to subsidize pimps and look as fools in doing it.

[QUOTE=Mackin; 1532439]Using the condom is true, at least for me. But the oral examination, really. I can picture myself sitting next a girl at a bar or anywhere and hearing " Honey open your mouth and I will get my dental mirror and check to see if you have any problems in there." Say Ahhh.

But I do understand you want to be safe[/QUOTE]Actually possible to get on tongue, gums and roof of mouth.

Nevertheless, ROTFLMAO.

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1532415]All good and great but just look at the flow of the conversation before throwing sermons, because I'm not the one that complained about anything.[/QUOTE]TomSFA has a history of "throwing sermons" (love that expression)! He has variously been described by elder statesmen on the China forum as a "know nothing" and "dumbass" newbie. I am not flaming him, just repeating what other experienced mongers have posted!

I'm not going to say it is a personality thing since I do not know you nor anyone else here. Let just say you are unlucky and shit happens. There is no indication at least to me there is a problem with how how you act.

There are many girls that get barfine ahead of their shift but continue to go to work since the customer might not be coming until later. So the girl works like O. T. To dance while dancing they get drinks from other customers. She is still working for a living to line up customer for the future?

There is no way for many customers to know unless they ask before hand? I'm sure after the flak he got now he will be asking sooner than later? Sure there is a chance she might just be saying this not to go with him for some reason? Further conversation on his part might be to simple ask her " when is your barfine coming, will you be available tomorrow"? Further question would give the answer that is how I would address it?

LBM

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99; 1532449]That happened to me once a few years ago in the gogo in WS with the tub on the left side of the entrance where two or three girls bathe themselves and each other. I saw this girl with a great body and motioned her to come sit with me when her time in the tub was over. She did and I bought her a lady drink. A few minutes later I asked about bar fining her and she said that she had already been bar fined. I told her she could go and went to the bar area to talk to a manager. I asked why was she allowed to have me buy her a lady drink when she was unavailable to be bar fined. The manager refunded the cost of the lady drink and I left. However, had I bought her a number of lady drinks, that probably would have not happened.

As Simonwagstaff posted, the time to find out if she is available to be bar fined (and, even more importantly, willing to go with you) is not after an hour of buying lady drinks but before you by her anything. The lady drink should be bought after to seal the deal you negotiated, not before.[/QUOTE]What a strange idea. Ladydrinks are payment for the girl to sit with you, have some conversation, perhaps some touching left and right. It has nothing to do with barfining the lady. If you were just out to barfine her, you should ask before you start anything.

[QUOTE=El Flaco; 1532491]Questions like that go beyond the realm of human mind and are really the biggest waste of space and time on a monger's board.

It's your money, it's your time, do what you want with it but please post on tripadvisor about your transfer by bus / taxi / motorbike experience next time.[/QUOTE]I seem to have missed the announcement of your appointment as the Forum Police.

Of course your report of your antics of driving without a license are totally "to the point" of this forum. :)

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1532686]I seem to have missed the announcement of your appointment as the Forum Police.

Of course your report of your antics of driving without a license are totally "to the point" of this forum. .[/QUOTE]If you can't see the difference between reporting checkpoint locations, and asking for an holding hand, I can't help.

BTW I am fully licensed including IDL. Thanks for wasting further space, now buzz off.

[QUOTE=Cab Driver;1532103]Had trouble in some go goes with bar fines, the situation is this I'am having a good time with a girl paying for lady drinks of course, also with the waitresses helping things along encouraging me to bar fine the girl, when say about an hour later when I've enjoyed my self and got a good chemistry going thinking would like to take her then she drops the bombshell telling me she was bar fined earlier in the evening, what a let down suppose you guys may think what a dum ass and not find out before but this happened to me 3 times in different go gos, think I am being scammed for lady drinks or my game just isn't working right, any ideas guys?[/QUOTE]I don't get your point, bar girls are routinely barfined multiple times a night. What does being barfined "earlier in the evening" have to do with YOU barfining her?

[QUOTE=Western787;1532738]I don't get your point, bar girls are routinely barfined multiple times a night. What does being barfined "earlier in the evening" have to do with YOU barfining her?[/QUOTE]I think he meant that some dude paid her barfine and was coming back to get her later, yet she continued to milk him for drinks.

[QUOTE=Western787;1532738]I don't get your point, bar girls are routinely barfined multiple times a night. What does being barfined "earlier in the evening" have to do with YOU barfining her?[/QUOTE]Simply a case of woman that did not wanted to perform, for whatever reason. The excuse given may vary and is not really important. What matters is that one is able to move on and learn how to not to be taken advantage for a next time.

Hi bro,

I'm visiting Pattaya for first time, can you give some tips can I get good quality condoms or need to carry from here? Where? What's about lady boy massage where can I get hot girls top places. Please guide. Any precaution.

[QUOTE=Mackin; 1532439]"Also, thai woman give lots of BBBJ's always inspect their lips and tongue for cold sores before they give you a BBBJ. Because heaven can turn to hell very fast. Also, no matter how innocent she looks do not bang her without a condom".

Using the condom is true, at least for me. But the oral examination, really. I can picture myself sitting next a girl at a bar or anywhere and hearing " Honey open your mouth and I will get my dental mirror and check to see if you have any problems in there." Say Ahhh.

Maybe she can get out the rubber gloves and ask to inspect your private area also if you wanted it sucked.

But I do understand you want to be safe[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sanjay Joshi]Can I get good quality condoms or need to carry from here? What's about lady boy massage? Where can I get hot girls top places.[/QUOTE]Condoms are sold in 7-11 stores, which are all over town. Most girls have a personal supply as well. Most of the ones I saw for sale were made by Durex, which is a quality brand. That said, if you fancy another brand or style it's best to bring your own. Lady boys can be found on Soi 6, especially in the bars on the SOUTH side of the street. As for "hot girls" in the "top places," check out the go go clubs on Walking Street. There are dozens to choose from and no matter what your taste in women you can probably find somebody you think is hot. There are also lots of go go clubs on Soi LK Metro. If you don't know where those places are located, I recommend buying the Pattaya map published by Groovy, which you can easily find for sale online. Finally, there is a TON of information available on this forum. Go back six months and read what others have written. It will be time well spent.

[QUOTE=Knobrm; 1531859]Outside of downtown Bangkok you don't know there is anything going on unless you follow media. Biz in BKK and DMK airport as usual, just less people.

Traffic to Pattaya from airports not impacted at all. Better actually as less tourists.[/QUOTE]Thanks knobrm for reporting the situation. I think there's no harm then. Great!

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1532743]Simply a case of woman that did not wanted to perform, for whatever reason. The excuse given may vary and is not really important. What matters is that one is able to move on and learn how to not to be taken advantage for a next time.[/QUOTE]Did the women actually turn him down?

Cadriver wrote as follows: "Had trouble in some go goes with bar fines, the situation is this I'am having a good time with a girl paying for lady drinks of course, also with the waitresses helping things along encouraging me to bar fine the girl, when say about an hour later when I've enjoyed my self and got a good chemistry going thinking would like to take her then she drops the bombshell telling me she was bar fined earlier in the evening, what a let down suppose you guys may think what a dum ass and not find out before but this happened to me 3 times in different go gos, think I am being scammed for lady drinks or my game just isn't working right, any ideas guys?"

He says he was "thinking" of taking her, but I don't see him actually saying he ASKED her, nor do I see where he claims she said NO.

Coyotes often string guys, its part of what they do. If she actually explicitly turned him down, I doubt there was any earlier barfine, but instead just another guy strung along.

Some Coyotes DO barfine but they just don't go to the hotel, so its really not a true barfine.

STRIKERS in Soi 4 in Bangkok has this young red haired Vietnamese girl, kind of cute, and she plays a lot of pool and gets customers to buy a lot of drinks, Her "barfining" she offers is basically taking her to the disco. STRIKERS while not a Go Go will sometimes will have girls dancing in front, but this girl says she is not one, so basically she is a (non dancing) Coyote, if that makes sense. Since even waitresses barfine in most (non Go Go) bars or pool bars, its does seem kind of strange. Although we all know Coyotes or their equivalent will sometimes selectively bend the rules with the right guy

Right guy or not, obviously with certain Coyotes its just a matter of price and how much they need the cash. Nana Plaza itself in recent weeks has been loaded with Coyotes (usually 18 and 19 year olds, agency girls brought in during the slow period created by the protests) and their rules seem to be all over the place. As I allued to previously (though i had wrong name on club before) there as a G Club quality (nominal Coyote) in Fantasia who a number of weeks ago was turning down on night barfine offers from multiple customers one after the other, even Japanese. And this girl could not only really dance (totally wild) and she was as sexy as all get-out, tall, long long legs, great ass, great body, fairly cute face. Then a few weeks later this same girl on a very slow night is begging (from stage) for customers to barfine her. Did she turn into a working girl in a matter of weeks?, Did she need the cash? Perhaps "Bangkok got her" as they saying goes.

And of course Soi Cowboy the girls in front I wouldn't even classify as Coyotes as they don't even dance, nor do they ever seem to go in the club. Only requirement seems to be being cute, willing to grab customers walking by and (apparently) having reached their 18th birthday.

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1532743]Simply a case of woman that did not wanted to perform, for whatever reason. The excuse given may vary and is not really important. What matters is that one is able to move on and learn how to not to be taken advantage for a next time.[/QUOTE]Really! She performed for her LD as she sat with him and gave him her time. That is all a "ladydrink" is about. It seems some posters here don't understand the rules of the game and then complainwhen their ignorance bites them.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1532902]Did the women actually turn him down?[/QUOTE]YES, they did!

Go back and read the OP report and if you still don't get where they drop the bombshell which translates to "no", you may need to enroll in English 101. By inference the girls would not have told him they were already barfined if he did not ask them to go with him. Poor Cab Driver came here to ask for help and is getting the usual ISG treatment but I'm sure he's learn the rules about LDs by now.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1532922]Really! She performed for her LD as she sat with him and gave him her time. That is all a "ladydrink" is about. It seems some posters here don't understand the rules of the game and then complainwhen their ignorance bites them.[/QUOTE]Absolutely! One goes to a brothel and then even wants to get laid! Where we'll end I don't really know!

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1532929]Absolutely! One goes to a brothel and then even wants to get laid! Where we'll end I don't really know![/QUOTE]How many guys paying for LD's do turn them into a barfine?

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1532934]How many guys paying for LD's do turn them into a barfine?[/QUOTE]No idea, I don't own a bar and have never been to one.

But I see your point, and in fact now that I think about it, prostitution in illegal and immoral, so that must be the reason why the guy was turned down.

It will be a beautiful world of Lady Drinks then. Did you knew that since they are water only, do not even harm ladies health ? Thailand is really one step forward!

[QUOTE=Mackin; 1532439]"Also, thai woman give lots of BBBJ's always inspect their lips and tongue for cold sores before they give you a BBBJ. Because heaven can turn to hell very fast. Also, no matter how innocent she looks do not bang her without a condom".

Using the condom is true, at least for me. But the oral examination, really. I can picture myself sitting next a girl at a bar or anywhere and hearing " Honey open your mouth and I will get my dental mirror and check to see if you have any problems in there." Say Ahhh.

Maybe she can get out the rubber gloves and ask to inspect your private area also if you wanted it sucked.

But I do understand you want to be safe[/QUOTE]I was in Thailand one time in Pattaya. Brought a girl back to my place. Laying on the bed. She just starts going down for the BBBJ and sticks out her tongue a little bit. I saw she a huge cold sore on her tougue. I stop her. I was like WTF? I instead put on a condom and told her I don't need oral. Another time I brought back a beer bar girl and she had some disgusting skin issue on her vagina. I paid her in full and told her to leave without touching her. Lucky I saw these things beforehand and not after. If I mention ways to be safe it is only so other can learn from my experiences. I do not want to preach or give a sermon. Just trying to tell things I learned. But this kind of talk is never popular of these boards. I know. Next time maybe I probably won't mention it. Better advice is turn out the lights and keep the party going. Yeah.

You sure your on the right forum?

I know prostitution is illegal, but why is it immoral?

It is an agreement between two consenting adults is it not?

Or am I missing something in your post?

[QUOTE=Jp Slicky;1532993]Or am I missing something in your post?[/QUOTE]Yes, I think you are. Apologies to the casual reader as this bullshit is still dragging on.

[QUOTE=Jp Slicky; 1532993]You sure your on the right forum?

I know prostitution is illegal, but why is it immoral?

It is an agreement between two consenting adults is it not?

Or am I missing something in your post?[/QUOTE]But in Thailand isn't it illegal only if a pimp is involved? I believe it is legal for a man to make direct payment to a woman to have sex with him, assuming she is of legal age. Isn't this the reason for the bar fine? The guy pays to take the lady out of the bar. The rest is between the lady and the gentleman.

[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1532928]YES, they did!

Go back and read the OP report and if you still don't get where they drop the bombshell which translates to "no", you may need to enroll in English 101. By inference the girls would not have told him they were already barfined if he did not ask them to go with him. Poor Cab Driver came here to ask for help and is getting the usual ISG treatment but I'm sure he's learn the rules about LDs by now.[/QUOTE]I think the girl is probably a Coyote anyways and she probably wasn't in fact barfined earlier anyways.

However (non Coyote) bargirls routinely barfine multiple times during a shift, so I am still not sure how a bargirl saying "I've already barfined" is supposed to be an excuse for why she can't barfine a 2nd time. I guess you are saying that's a standard excuse, and if it is, then that explains it.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1533007]But in Thailand isn't it illegal only if a pimp is involved? I believe it is legal for a man to make direct payment to a woman to have sex with him, assuming she is of legal age. Isn't this the reason for the bar fine? The guy pays to take the lady out of the bar. The rest is between the lady and the gentleman.[/QUOTE]You are describing the law in the UK, (sex for money for example in the apartment of a provider, one customer and one provider living there, no brothel. 100% legal) but in Thailand the same transaction is illegal, but they leave certain terms undefined such as must be in "a promiscuous manner", or an "open and shameless manner" and "causing a nuisance to the public". All making it difficult to enforce.

A barfine or anything similar is simply a form over substance sham transaction and would not negate a 3rd party from being charged, but of course in Thailand there is no enforcement.

[QUOTE=Western787;1533018], so I am still not sure how a bargirl saying "I've already barfined" is supposed to be an excuse for why she can't barfine a 2nd time.[/QUOTE]This was explained below but you missed it so here it is again. The girls were bar fined earlier by customers who left the bar (for reasons known best to themselves) and will be back to get the girls her later on that night. Sometimes girls are bar fined the night before but still work the bar until their customer arrives to take them out. Sometimes girls who are already bar fined will sit in the bar but will not be in their bar girl attire but change to their version of civilian clothing waiting for their customers to return/arrive to take them out.

Sometimes customers will BF hot chicks to prevent others from taking them and leave the bar to go eat or bar hop or whatever they feel like doing, then return to take them out. But since the girls are under no obligation to go with any customer they can use the "I am already bar fined and am waiting for my customer" line to anyone they don't want to go with. With so many bars and so many girls in Pattaya, if a girl turns anyone down for whatever reason, just keep it moving and find someone else but keep a lid on your LD purchases.

Can I buy Viagra at a pharmacy in Pattaya without a prescription?

How much does it cost compared to USA prices?

I usually always bring my supply but if cheaper there then I might as well get it there.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1533071]This was explained below but you missed it so here it is again. The girls were bar fined earlier by customers who left the bar (for reasons known best to themselves) and will be back to get the girls her later on that night. Sometimes girls are bar fined the night before but still work the bar until their customer arrives to take them out. Sometimes girls who are already bar fined will sit in the bar but will not be in their bar girl attire but change to their version of civilian clothing waiting for their customers to return / arrive to take them out.

Sometimes customers will BF hot chicks to prevent others from taking them and leave the bar to go eat or bar hop or whatever they feel like doing, then return to take them out. But since the girls are under no obligation to go with any customer they can use the "I am already bar fined and am waiting for my customer" line to anyone they don't want to go with. With so many bars and so many girls in Pattaya, if a girl turns anyone down for whatever reason, just keep it moving and find someone else but keep a lid on your LD purchases.[/QUOTE]Ok, now that makes more sense.

When cabdriver said 'she was bar fined earlier in the evening" I interpreted that to mean "earlier in the evening the bar fee was paid AND she went to the hotel to have sex" vs (just) "the bar was paid"

Assuming a bar girl is actually preemptively barfined, its hard to understand why she would let herself be tied up like that. I mean presumptively only the bar has been paid the 500 or so, yet she is still has not received her 2000 (or whatever). Unless the time is set or the customer is a major roller or major customer to her, it doesn't seem to make much sense. And the issue is magnified even more if the girl being tied up is in fact a "hot chick" as she is less likely to want to hang around waiting for someone when she has other opportunities all over the place. A hottie would have to be a fool to let herself get tied up like that.

Even as an excuse it seems transparently phony, and perhaps only a good way to lead a guy on to buy ladydrinks, and then bail.

[QUOTE=Jp Slicky; 1532993]You sure your on the right forum?

I know prostitution is illegal, but why is it immoral?

It is an agreement between two consenting adults is it not?

Or am I missing something in your post?[/QUOTE]In Thailand (and many other countries) prostitution is not illegal. Whether it is moral or not is a question for your own conscience.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1533123]In Thailand (and many other countries) prostitution is not illegal. Whether it is moral or not is a question for your own conscience.[/QUOTE]Prostitution is 100% illegal in Thailand. For example in the case of Poseiden Spa they could bust the entire 10 story building, the fish bowl, the sideliners, the pimps, the waitresses along with all the Japanese customers (both of them) in there TONIGHT if they wanted to.

Then they could round up Soi Cowboy and the annoying 18 year old door girls with braces standing out front, Baccarra and the Japs, every person except cab drivers and security guards in Nana Parking Lot, all the occupants in Nana Plaza especially the SPANKY'S tout hanging near the stairs beating the stick each night, and bust most of the occupants of The Nana Hotel WHILE FORNICATING and for good measure send a SWAT TEAM to bust the Soi 7 BEER GARDEN regulars and anyone in the vicinity of Soi 7/1, and just for kicks a massive roundup of the pretties standing with their night bags at Thermae looking all innocent, and even customers just eating popcorn.

It would shock the world and the media would proclaim all the providers as "trafficked" and the men as perverts, and ABC News in america would run specials on it for months, making sure to have lots of videos (taken from below) of the 2nd floor girls in Baccarra wearing sneakers and short skirts but no panties, and the left side Rainbow 4 girls dancing topless, all sure to kick up ratings.

Hillary Clinton would make it a major "human rights" campaign issue, and Bill Clinton would announce he's heading a special task force and will personally visit Bangkok to investigate how it all happened

However don't hold your breath.

[QUOTE=Darmstadter; 1533109]Can I buy Viagra at a pharmacy in Pattaya without a prescription?

How much does it cost compared to USA prices?

I usually always bring my supply but if cheaper there then I might as well get it there.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes you can but not all pharmacies will sell it to you. The one next to Tim Bar on second road is one that will. It's called Kamagra (locally manufactured) and is green instead of blue but has the same active ingredient.

I think it's 250 baht for a packet of 4 but I could be wrong.

[QUOTE=Tobyg; 1533161]Yes you can but not all pharmacies will sell it to you. The one next to Tim Bar on second road is one that will. It's called Kamagra (locally manufactured) and is green instead of blue but has the same active ingredient.

I think it's 250 baht for a packet of 4 but I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]Kamagra is India manufactured. They will take you for whatever they think they can get. Best to hard bargain or say but last time you sold it to me for X.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1533174]Kamagra is India manufactured. They will take you for whatever they think they can get. Best to hard bargain or say but last time you sold it to me for X.[/QUOTE]There is also a Thai manufactured one, Sidegra. 100 Bt gets 4x 50mg. Beside being cheaper, it's safer because legally manufactured for the purpose of pushing fakes and imports off the street.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1533118]Ok, now that makes more sense.

When cabdriver said 'she was bar fined earlier in the evening" I interpreted that to mean "earlier in the evening the bar fee was paid AND she went to the hotel to have sex" vs (just)"the bar was paid"

Assuming a bar girl is actually preemptively barfined, its hard to understand why she would let herself be tied up like that. I mean presumptively only the bar has been paid the 500 or so, yet she is still has not received her 2000 (or whatever). Unless the time is set or the customer is a major roller or major customer to her, it doesn't seem to make much sense. And the issue is magnified even more if the girl being tied up is in fact a "hot chick" as she is less likely to want to hang around waiting for someone when she has other opportunities all over the place. A hottie would have to be a fool to let herself get tied up like that.

Even as an excuse it seems transparently phony, and perhaps only a good way to lead a guy on to buy ladydrinks, and then bail.[/QUOTE]You can debate and dissect the merits of the girls' action till Buddha come but why they are doing it is not important. What's important, is as the OP asked, how do you, the customer overcome it, and some good answers were given below. As was stated before it could be an excuse not to go with the customer or perhaps they were genuinely bar fined and trust the person will return because they have an on going relationship with that person. Could also be that they were paid up front for their services.

BTW, just about everyone is phony in this game. When girls tell you they have "men" which means they are on the rag but are not or when John customer tells the girls, I'll be back when he knows he will not. It's all a game so being phony is a part of the show but it cuts both ways.

[QUOTE=Western787;1533118]Assuming a bar girl is actually preemptively barfined, its hard to understand why she would let herself be tied up like that. I mean presumptively only the bar has been paid the 500 or so, yet she is still has not received her 2000 (or whatever). Unless the time is set or the customer is a major roller or major customer to her, it doesn't seem to make much sense. And the issue is magnified even more if the girl being tied up is in fact a "hot chick" as she is less likely to want to hang around waiting for someone when she has other opportunities all over the place. A hottie would have to be a fool to let herself get tied up like that.[/QUOTE]I do this quite often. I've met a girl I like, and I fancy her staying with me a few nights later. So I arrive at her bar at 5pm and pay her bar-fine, telling her I will be back at 10:30pm or whatever. She is then free to do as she likes, until then, but usually she will stay at the bar with her friends and get a few lady-drinks. You are right, she could potentially go ST with another customer while waiting for me. But conversely she knows me, hopefully likes me a little, knows I will give her a good price for the night, and knows I might repeat a couple of nights later. I've made my commitment to come back and collect with my 500 bht bar-fine payment, so she knows she has a customer tonight. Conversely if she went off with another customer and I returned early, I would be pissed off, probably insist on a return of my bar-fine, so mamasan would be pissed off with the girl. And I wouldn't bother to see the girl again. So I guess I am saying it works if you have built up a bit of trust already.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1533131]Prostitution is 100% illegal in Thailand. For example in the case of Poseiden Spa they could bust the entire 10 story building, the fish bowl, the sideliners, the pimps, the waitresses along with all the Japanese customers (both of them) in there TONIGHT if they wanted to.

Then they could round up Soi Cowboy and the annoying 18 year old door girls with braces standing out front, Baccarra and the Japs, every person except cab drivers and security guards in Nana Parking Lot, all the occupants in Nana Plaza especially the SPANKY'S tout hanging near the stairs beating the stick each night, and bust most of the occupants of The Nana Hotel WHILE FORNICATING and for good measure send a SWAT TEAM to bust the Soi 7 BEER GARDEN regulars and anyone in the vicinity of Soi 7/1, and just for kicks a massive roundup of the pretties standing with their night bags at Thermae looking all innocent, and even customers just eating popcorn.

It would shock the world and the media would proclaim all the providers as "trafficked" and the men as perverts, and ABC News in America would run specials on it for months, making sure to have lots of videos (taken from below) of the 2nd floor girls in Baccarra wearing sneakers and short skirts but no panties, and the left side Rainbow 4 girls dancing topless, all sure to kick up ratings.

Hillary Clinton would make it a major "human rights" campaign issue, and Bill Clinton would announce he's heading a special task force and will personally visit Bangkok to investigate how it all happened.

However don't hold your breath.[/QUOTE]You ought to be a comedy writer, funny stuff!

I had this report all ready to post a month after my return home, but somehow managed to erase it along with some of my other possibly incriminating evidence. Anyway here are my thoughts on Pattaya. I am relatively new in this hobby and my only significant longer mongering period comparison is a one week stay in Sosua-Dominican Republic last August. Prior, it was mostly short term adventures. I will try not to compare too much.

Girls.

First of all I have to say that I prefer the look of Chinese and Korean girls to the SEA girls(except Vietnam), but in my humble opinion the vast majority of the girls in Pattaya to put it kindly were plain. However, due to the large number of them working here, a monger should be able to find what he wants every time he is out for a hunt. Regardless, somehow I still managed to fail couple of times. Generally, I love skinny girls and it is hard to beat the almost zero body fat that some of the Thai girls have, but their faces I often did not find attractive. Also, many of the girls regardless of their age had saggy boobs (I know-having babies) , which does not really effect me as much, since I am more of an ass man.

Some of the previous reports I have read indicated that the Thai girls are really sweet, humble, gentle, and so on, but after all is said and done, I cannot say that they are any different form other service providers in different parts of the world I have visited and experienced. A Thai girl can leave you feeling hallow inside and in your wallet as much as any other girl. I did not find them to be better in bed than other girls, however, I have to admit that I received some of the best blow jobs in my life in Pattaya. Also, they really seemed to enjoy DATY, but I generally find this with Asian / SEA girls.

The girls here also seemed quite shallow and narcissistic with their braces, nose jobs and so on, but that may be more of a generational issue. Even though friendly on the outside, it was all a game. Also, I found it interesting that there is a bit of an ageism issue going on. What I noticed, was that if you were young, it mostly did not matter what you looked like (within reason) and the girls were all over you. This may have something to do with an inordinate amount of middle aged and older man hanging around Pattaya. I guess you can't blame the girls, but being middle aged I did not appreciate this. I barely got out of my hotel in Sosua and I was grabbed by couple of young, thin, attractive, spinner bodied early 20's girls asking for a happy hour. Of course I obliged. I cannot see this happening in Pattaya. Reading a recent post by Mr. GoGo in AC, Philippines, I noted his remark about just having to look at a puta in Sosua would ensure him getting laid, but in Pattaya some of the girls do not look at you, and sometimes even look away when you try to accomplish contact.

I used to be amused when some of the posters in the Thailand thread commented about what they should be wearing or doing to attract the girls's attention. Now I understand. You actually have to have game sometimes to succeed. Or the smarts, which come with experience. I think this is especially true if you are older and may have to compete with the younger crowd.

The problem is that I came here with unrealistic expectations and it does not matter what you read here or see on the Youtube, you have to experience it before you learn.

To be continued:

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1533532]The girls here also seemed quite shallow and narcissistic with their braces, nose jobs and so on, but that may be more of a generational issue. Even though friendly on the outside, it was all a game. Also, I found it interesting that there is a bit of an ageism issue going on. What I noticed, was that if you were young, it mostly did not matter what you looked like (within reason) and the girls were all over you. This may have something to do with an inordinate amount of middle aged and older man hanging around Pattaya. I guess you can't blame the girls, but being middle aged I did not appreciate this. I barely got out of my hotel in Sosua and I was grabbed by couple of young, thin, attractive, spinner bodied early 20's girls asking for a happy hour. Of course I obliged. I cannot see this happening in Pattaya. Reading a recent post by Mr. GoGo in AC, Philippines, I noted his remark about just having to look at a puta in Sosua would ensure him getting laid, but in Pattaya some of the girls do not look at you, and sometimes even look away when you try to accomplish contact.[/QUOTE]Pattaya girls now raising their standards? In Bangkok all one needs to get all the hotties one can handle is: 1. A pulse 2. The bahts to pay them. Now it's probably smart to also be clean shaven, neatly dressed, have good breath, and be a gentleman, but I don't think its mandatory

[QUOTE=Western787; 1533131]Prostitution is 100% illegal in Thailand.

Hillary Clinton would make it a major "human rights" campaign issue, and Bill Clinton would announce he's heading a special task force and will personally visit Bangkok to investigate how it all happened.[/QUOTE]C'mon, Bill C is powerful enough to have a charter flight filled with prostitutes in Bangkok and brought to his location. That would not be human trafficing because it's part on "an ongoing investigation."

Wait 'til all of us publish the results of our 'study' on the sex industry in Asia. Oops, that's exactly what this forum is!

; )

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal; 1533532]I had this report all ready to post a month after my return home, but somehow managed to erase it along with some of my other possibly incriminating evidence. Anyway here are my thoughts on Pattaya. I am relatively new in this hobby and my only significant longer mongering period comparison is a one week stay in Sosua-Dominican Republic last August. Prior, it was mostly short term adventures. I will try not to compare too much.

Girls.

First of all I have to say that I prefer the look of Chinese and Korean girls to the SEA girls (except Vietnam) , but in my humble opinion the vast majority of the girls in Pattaya to put it kindly were plain. However, due to the large number of them working here, a monger should be able to find what he wants every time he is out for a hunt. Regardless, somehow I still managed to fail couple of times. Generally, I love skinny girls and it is hard to beat the almost zero body fat that some of the Thai girls have, but their faces I often did not find attractive. Also, many of the girls regardless of their age had saggy boobs (I know-having babies) , which does not really effect me as much, since I am more of an ass man.[/QUOTE]Youll be fine as long as you remember they are not your girlfriend!

ConquerorVal has it right, good looks are down, bad attitudes are up. And this has been going on since a long time. People like Goatscroat is able to explain that in much better words than myself.

If you can't see that, Western787, that is actually good for you or anyone with reduced standards. About myself, I'm pretty well adjusted and accepting by now.

However I don't think I would trade Pattaya for that cesspool of Sosua anytime, or even Las Terrazas.

I have seen loads of regular bars but how about any equivalent of above mentioned bars in Pattaya? Where one dies not have to pay a bar fine, fls are desperate to make eye contact and one does not have to listen to ear splitting music?

[QUOTE=FRHolmes;1533563]Youll be fine as long as you remember they are not your girlfriend![/QUOTE]Laughable comment. Not a single line or word from ConquerorVal report hints athe trading pussy for roamnce, rather all the contrary. And he, unlike you, is reporting not asking so what means to say "you will" ?!?
Save your 2 cents condescending lectures posted from a free account, for when it's worth.

Yes, I have an issue with the way too frequent inane, idiotic, preposterous postings. Dig it or skip reading.

[QUOTE=Margaya;1533586]I have seen loads of regular bars but how about any equivalent of above mentioned bars in Pattaya? Where one dies not have to pay a bar fine, fls are desperate to make eye contact and one does not have to listen to ear splitting music?[/QUOTE]Not many because in Pattaya, Thais are not stupid enough to renounce pimping where pimping is the norm. Few bar / disco exceptions on Walking Street, but if you don't want to barfine and meet truly desperate women, go to beach road.

[QUOTE=Margaya;1533586]I have seen loads of regular bars but how about any equivalent of above mentioned bars in Pattaya? Where one dies not have to pay a bar fine, fls are desperate to make eye contact and one does not have to listen to ear splitting music?[/QUOTE]There used to be a Beer Garden type place on the beach side of Beach Road just at the entrance to Walking Street, behind a bunch of bars with girls you have to barfine. I think they also did Thai boxing behind those bars. To get there you would walk towards the water, with the bars on your left, until you reached the bar (also a restaurant). There used to be freelancers there. Check out if it's still there.

[QUOTE=FRHolmes;1533563]Youll be fine as long as you remember they are not your girlfriend![/QUOTE]You still got a thing for that Rainbow 4 superstar you barfined 19 times?

To clarify an earlier post. Even a pulse is apparently optional now in Bangkok. Saw it with my own eyes in Rainbow 3 (Nana 2nd floor) recently, with an older gentleman who rolled in one evening. And in a mere matter of minutes left with 2 hotties on a barfine. Very very strange.

[QUOTE=Western787;1533795]To clarify an earlier post. Even a pulse is apparently optional now in Bangkok. Saw it with my own eyes in Rainbow 3 (Nana 2nd floor) recently, with an older gentleman who rolled in one evening. And in a mere matter of minutes left with 2 hotties on a barfine. Very very strange.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of a joke: "Why did that old man leave with those two beauties? All he did was lick his forehead with his tongue".

[QUOTE=Markaic;1533453]You ought to be a comedy writer, funny stuff![/QUOTE]I do not have that level of talent, but kind of you to say that. In truth in Bangkok the material writes itself.

Example, I am outside of Nana hotel one night around midnight, and I see a middle age drunk Japanese guy being walked over from Nana Plaza (totally blitzed with 2 bouncers propping him up) bringing him to the hotel. To understand the precise look on his face one must reference the SLEEPER movie "Orgasmatron" scene with Woody Allen [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isrd7E5nzIQ[/url]

The last 10 seconds of that clip. That was the exact look the guy had

Minutes later they walk him from the hotel to a cab, as apparently he's not staying there.

My guess is that the guy must have had one hell of a time in the shortterm rooms in the Plaza

If you want to see talented comedy script writing, see a move called Euro Trip on DVD. The fact that those guys have not attempted a siimilar movie on Bangkok tells us (whle loaded with material) is not easily translated to the big screen.

The "Soccer Hooligan" (Manchester United fans i think) who show up at various times in the Euro Trip movie could actually be used again in a Bangkok comedy. Basically they would play pool, get drunk, and start fights over soccer matches they'd watch in the bars and rarely barfine girls- just be pissed off all the time.

Then you (and these are 90% based on real characters) a "young guy who claims he can't get laid in Bangkok' character, and then you have an over-sexed elderly gent who would be seen in the background being wheeled out by hotties while the young guy is complaining about not getting laid. Then there would be a cheap ass bargainer (German or Brit or Austrialian or someone) basically obsessed with low balling everybody, and arguing, and ends up killing the vibe on everything he does. Then a crazy Indian watch seller, a crazyy Indian Tut Tut driver who drives with India flags and 100 lights, and an 8 foot lady boy who like to scare people on Soi 5 at 4 AM when she pops out from behind the Ronald McDonald figure, then I'd have a Go Go Stunner who claims to not make much money, but who is so rich she's trading stocks online in her penthouse in between appointments and in her mailbox has about dozen letters a day with checks. Then an obese Go Go girl who never gets barfined, then the Farang so obsessed with herpes he can only do girls if their pussy is wrapped in cellophane, then the young German guy who offers food for sex, but also offers to marry girls if they cook for him, with such girls invariably immediately going to the market to prepare his elaborate German type dinner that very same night. There are really endless funny situations in Bangkok

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1533765]There used to be a Beer Garden type place on the beach side of Beach Road just at the entrance to Walking Street, behind a bunch of bars with girls you have to barfine. I think they also did Thai boxing behind those bars. To get there you would walk towards the water, with the bars on your left, until you reached the bar (also a restaurant). There used to be freelancers there. Check out if it's still there.[/QUOTE]It is still there, but it is more of a restaurant than a fl pick-up joint. Having said that I did pick up one of my bestest friends from there. :)

Yes it's still there but no talent. Sad.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1533765]There used to be a Beer Garden type place on the beach side of Beach Road just at the entrance to Walking Street, behind a bunch of bars with girls you have to barfine. I think they also did Thai boxing behind those bars. To get there you would walk towards the water, with the bars on your left, until you reached the bar (also a restaurant). There used to be freelancers there. Check out if it's still there.[/QUOTE]

You are quite right about pimping culture. There is a fantastic opportunity for some enterprising person to start a day time freelancing bar. There seem to be none.

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1533743]Not many because in Pattaya, Thais are not stupid enough to renounce pimping where pimping is the norm. Few bar / disco exceptions on Walking Street, but if you don't want to barfine and meet truly desperate women, go to beach road.[/QUOTE]

Here is a brief account of my Pattaya visit Feb 2014.

Arrived at Suvarnabhoomi airport after having travelling for about 30 hours but still in good condition. However somehow it was not the smoothest landing. The flight was at time. Airport was merkedly less busy at 8 AM, al least 30% less. But immigration lines moved slowly and it still took me an hour to reach the baggage claim area where luckily the bags were circling on the belt. Decided to head to bell travel counter on first floor. There was chaotic scene there and the attendents were just too busy on the phones rather than attend clients. Was pissed off and decided to first buy the sim. Little problem- they are sold on 2nd floor and the way back to 2nd floor is not open although plice officers let you get in w / o any hassle. Made another silly mistakke of not buying the 299 card that comes with wifi as well, bought the 149 baht card with minutes only (115 baht talk time). Took about 10 mins to activate.

Went down to first floor, booked bus to Pattaya for 10 AM departure. Got assigned the seat next to washroom. Should have pre booken on web which is cheaper and allowes seat selection. On top of that seemed ot be slowest bus on the highway, doing steady 45 km / hour. Had to take out laptop to kill time although somehow it did arrive at Patat11. 45. 10 min ride to Hotel Sunshine.

Another bnig bummer. Despite having written to hotel several days in advance that I might arrive by 12, there was no room available. Won't be ready till 1. Comeon. 33 hopurs, no shave, no shower, no change of clothes. I was mighty pissed off. Had lunch, came back, got the room but bah! Now can't login to internet. Anyways that was my mistake of switching ID with username. Then was told they don't have in room iron, nor is one available at hotel! Thankfully les than perfect landing episode ends here. Slept at 3 PM, got up at 6 and went to beacjh road.

Had to walk to and fro for an hour at least before picking up first girl, Emm. A little plump, she sounded bubbly so agreed to her 600 baht and did the ded. She was in abit of hurry to score second catch and asked for condom in 5 minutes. Not the inspiration one needs to fly intercontinental. However she did respond very well to DATY and French kissing and overall it was OK. Went for a second round around 11 PM. The number of WGs is down dramattically by as much as 30. Very few customers even though plenty of johns and WGs. What is clearly and completely missing is the quality. I am very picky but I could find only 2 girls after having walked entire beach road at 11 PM! Just two, barely 4. 5 in my books. Spent another hour and decided to call it a day.

Next day did the shopping and other similar stuff. Picked up a nice looking chubby girl M in the evening. She was a great lay, very good kisser and we made love like crazy. Got her digits. Again went out in the night for stroll on beach road for more talent but this was not to be. Terrible evening. Only 50% WGs as compared to last year. Very poor quality. Not even one could fancy my eyes despite having walked the entire beach road three to four times. Ended up getting blisters. There was a big drop in # of girls between Monday and Tuesday and on Wed it was even less. Again hardly any quality WGs. Most ask for 600-700 baht now a days for ST, one even asked 1000. Picked a third girl Ning who looked very nice in clothes but didn't have a steller body underneath. Johny wasn't too excited but worth $15 LOL. However on last night I won the lottery. Same routine, walk, walk, walk on beach road. Saw this MILF so decided not to be too fussy and thought will get over with. She however turned out to be out of of this world in room. Nice one nipples on size 34c boobs. 38 years old, only 4 months in business, shy housewife. OMFG. Her BJ was out of of this world. Put her heart and soul into the deed like it should be. Was the fist outstanding session.

Bangkok report next.

[QUOTE=Margaya; 1534253]Here is a brief account of my Pattaya visit Feb 2014.

Arrived at Suvarnabhoomi airport after having travelling for about 30 hours but still in good condition. However somehow it was not the smoothest landing. The flight was at time. Airport was merkedly less busy at 8 AM, al least 30% less. But immigration lines moved slowly and it still took me an hour to reach the baggage claim area where luckily the bags were circling on the belt. [/quote]

There are two immigrations halls, separated by some travelator. Often one is less busy than the other, depending which side the most people comes from.

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1534337]There are two immigrations halls, separated by some travelator. Often one is less busy than the other, depending which side the most people comes from.[/QUOTE]And don't forget they have some video monitors, so you can check beforehand if the other hall is less busy.

I had said I would have reported when I had something. So here it is. Nothing out of the ordinary, just a good FL experience.

I wrote many times about the car on wall pub, but there is no harm in repeating. It is good for our purpose for the following reasons, convenient location, decently friendly staff, reasonable drink prices that are the same for everyone, opens early enough, mixed age perhaps a little toward the mature, and generally speaking the women there are not total nutcases. Negatives are that the music sucks, it closes early, and is not like is filled with stunners, but that's true all across the country.

Now for the guys that comes for few days only, it is difficult to recognize the resident ladies (that are IMHO, not worth much attention) from the occasional better one, but in general the rules are, the more motivated ladies come alone and come early. The ones doing quick ins and outs in assorted small groups are, most often, the ones less able to perform.

I will repeat again the rules of engagement when working FLs. First, be wary of strange looks. That includes the hardened, aggressive hooker, but also the one that doesn't not used make-up. You can surely approach any single lady you want and I recommend to alway start with a smile or a light touch and nod. If you are returned indifference or unfunny faces, that is the first indication that you should be moving on to the next immediately, do not take refusals personally, whatever the issue with an "unfriendly" woman is, you're just being spared hassle by not having to deal with it any further. In approaching a FL there are few things I personally recommend. Do not feel obligated to buy a drink, ever if asked. If you want to just talk business feel free to do so. If you are in the mood to dance or grab, do it. If you want to make or say silly jokes, same. It is your free partying time so make the most out of it. If a lady is in a groups and point to her friend but you like her better, just grab her and do not allow being manipulated ever! I know these things seem obvious, but I see guys behaving silly, and for that are taken for a ride by the girls. Again I stress, during the initial contact anything that hints at her being jaded, cold, weird, high, or anything negative, must get you moving. Another bad sign is being asked for a given amount of money immediatley, inviariably on the high side of range. You are the one expected to make your offer, consider that 1, 000 Bt for ST and a couple pops is definitely acceptable. 1,500 for LT is also still an offer that is not offensive. If you want to have multipe pops in ST be sure to mention that clearly, as well if you can't take covered BJs. If she declines or is not convincing in answer, my advice is to move on. Do not be put off by the frequent comment that she has been paid 3, 000 before, just smile, comment something in a friendly way and be firm on what you can honestly offer (not 3, 000 please).

Now the fact is, you can be groomed and dressed like a torero, do all the talent screening religiously, prayed Buddha or your favorite divinity extensively, and still face a good 50% of chances of being unsatisfiyed, ending with a woman that is OK about being paid for sex, but much less doing it. So before overpaying, consider that averaging the failure ratio, you're always paying twice to to a good provider!

All this being said, it was yesterday a little after midnight that I noticed a sexy woman in her 30s stand alone. Slim, not overdressed, beatiful long natural hair. Her face has some Isaan features, very sexy with a small nose that I like. She passed all the tests mentioned above, so off we went, we had a good time together, she wasn't never boring for things like insisting on preliminary showers, and then she had a very natural sex drive and a quiet, but never idiotic, attitude. I did not her say a single "no", and in the end to me, that never have unreasonable demands, that is what matters most. A couple rounds before sleeping, another good romp in the morning, then I drove her to Jomtien beach for a mini breakfast. Supposedly she was going back to Bangkok today, thing that I believe also because I didn't have seen her before. Gave 1, 500 as agreed and I hope she will be back for more.

Good Report.

I did not see good lookers at this bar with the Car hung on the wall during my multiple visits to Pattaya. Will try my luck this time in the coming week though.

[QUOTE=El Flaco; 1534506]I had said I would have reported when I had something. So here it is. Nothing out of the ordinary, just a good FL experience.

I wrote many times about the car on wall pub, but there is no harm in repeating. It is good for our purpose for the following reasons, convenient location, decently friendly staff, reasonable drink prices that are the same for everyone, opens early enough, mixed age perhaps a little toward the mature, and generally speaking the women there are not total nutcases. Negatives are that the music sucks, it closes early, and is not like is filled with stunners, but that's true all across the country.

Now for the guys that comes for few days only, it is difficult to recognize the resident ladies (that are IMHO, not worth much attention) from the occasional better one, but in general the rules are, the more motivated ladies come alone and come early. The ones doing quick ins and outs in assorted small groups are, most often, the ones less able to perform...[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Can you please tell best option for hot girl or LB massage, area and place.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1529907]Hi gents,

I will soon be in Pattaya again and was wondering whether anyone can give me advice on any must visit gogo bars, either on Walking Street or LK Metro (I've already been recommended Sensations). I like pretty girls with good attitudes. A year ago I was particularly impressed with Airport, Beach Club, Happy, Heavens Above, What's Up and Baccara on WS, plus Office and Paradise on LK Metro. Any others?

I'd also be interested to know if there are any recommended massage parlours, other than Sabai Dee, Honey, Honey 2 and Dream Teen (Rasputin?).

I will post a diary after my trip.

Lance[/QUOTE]

Dammit flaco. You sure are willing to drive the asking prices UP

Yesterday night I had the pleasure of hanging out with Mr. Ent. And his boy. I tought it was to be a nice famility thing of dad and son going fishing together, but no, he meant just another guy. As I meet them at Candy Shop they were sitting like Al Capone and Al Pacino, minus the cigars, plus the Thai ladies, that now I will proceed to describe in full detail. Mr E's. Lady is Thai, and his friend's lady is Thai too, but has braces.

I have to say that Candy shop has the interesting property of looking big from outside, but it's small inside. Opening cerimonial done, soon we proceeded to anyone's favorite, Lucifer. It was way early just after midnight, for the record Red Label bottle goes for Bt 1, 850 and may be the best deal when sharing.

Ladies started getting in and I invited one to sit next to us. About her looks we must be clear, attractive perhaps, hot she wasn't. Shortie and slim but with no waiste line, cute face but no doll, covered legs, so who can tell about that. She smiled and all good, after a while a young muscular dude came to dance and press her a little, in a game that she played.

I said to Mr Ent,"the only problem with young men is that they have no less money than us". I'm not sure if he got what I meant because he had previously switched his language to me to Spanish, anyway he nodded as if agreeing.

How wrong I was! After a while I see the guy pointing his own face as to say, I'm handsome, I want it free. At that point I broke in internal laughs, having seen this identical scene countless times.

As out bottle was emptied we had no more reason to stay, as we left. Mr E. And friend made a beeline to the nearest doner kebab, where they were well know and given two large servings each, without even asking. I was happy with pad thai at 40 Bt. We then split, and I went erratical for a while.

I catched the above said young lady walking alone at the mouth of Walking Street toward 2nd road. I quickly tagged, and threw my bait to satisfy my curiosity, "Hello again, you look so sexy, what about 3, 000 Bt". No way I would have paid that, but I wanted to see her reaction. She just said "solly solly" and kept looking at her smartphone, BTW that is a very dangerous thing to do when crossing Thai streets, I hope she made home in one piece. That much for the "buyer market", ahahah!

Not satisfied again yet I went for a look to Marine, where soon I was the subject of the fake drunk girl comedy. This one is done like that, at a table a girl appears to have had a small difference with a guy, in this case it was a young Asian? Thai? guy. The comedy plot as follow, the inebriated girl will lean on you and show to "be thankful" that you're there to separate her from the annoying other male. I'm not sure how this table game is supposed to end, perhaps because I couldn't care less.

Now all that can be fun for a while, but this girl was chubby, did not smelled like Rose Pussy from Paris, and couldn't really act. Willing to play the game I contributed 100 Bt toward her following drink, that was quickly accepted. She wasn't, of course, much drunk and even less troubled, so I soon moved on to another slighlty better one.

I was a little fooled by her looks, just in between strawberries picker and the girl on Teamviever website, anyway after 3 minutes she demostrated to have the equivalent brain and empathy of of a mussel, for which she was promptly ditched at the bottom of Marine's infamous stairs. Always proceeding with prevailing traffic flow I scootered my lone ass toward Mixx, but not after having met again Mr Ent's friend and missus, having a 3rd? 4th? taste of Thai stall food delicacies.

At Mixx the situation wasn't any better. By now I got to know the only two good looking residents, one is slim, always white dressed with semi-curly hair adorned with a flower, she was all over the small blonde from Pattaya news TV, I mean the white one with such a thick eye makup that make you wonder how many direct cumshots it would take to just smear it a little.

The other one is also (guess) slim and white dressed, but paired with a fat crooked legs one. Too bad they all are (including the fattie) stuck-up bitches of the worst kind.

Nothign to be had, nothing having lost, I called it a night and that was it.

[QUOTE=El Flaco; 1535618]
Nothing to be had, nothing having lost, I called it a night and that was it.[/QUOTE]Great report. Something I can relate to in may experiences in Pattaya. I like posts that describe things as they are, and not just through a rosy lens. Its realistic narratives like this that SHOULD give a newbie better perspective on Pattaya. Descriptions of conquests and victories only, give a distorted view. I came in with these unrealistic expectations. Reality bites.

Been on Beach road many nights. I see good looking ladies every time I am out and there are always some not so lovely ladies there too. Lately many of the lookers are asking 1500. 2000 for LT. Some will negotiate with me and some won't. Although when I walk back later many of them will drop their price as they realize that money in hand is better than wishing for some. Also, as you would expect, time of night makes a difference. I do still find some decent ladies for 500 ST / 1000 LT, just not as many as in the past. Some ladies have told me that they want to get some ST customers then they may go LT. I saw one lady get two ST customers in the short time frame that I was walking. I am not sure how many she may have had before that, but not exactly what I am looking for in my LT for the night.

The bars have not been nearly as busy as I would have expected them to be in January and February. I know about the Bangkok issue, but I didn't think that affected too many of us. I have seen in the past many more customers in March and April than there are now. Also the cooler weather we had for awhile seems to have ended. Although still not nearly as bad as low season. It has only rained two times in the last month and a half and that was not much (I was gone for awhile during that time on a visa run).

Nothing really changes here (since I've been coming here) except prices up a little, but that happens everywhere. More ladies than I know what to do with. Although I still have a love / hate thing for Thailand. One hotel tried to rip me off. I had them empty the fridge when I arrived and when I was checking out about 20 days later, they told me I have to pay for those things. A good thing I tipped the maid everyday as she came to my rescue and told them she took the things out as I requested it and someone from the front desk told her to do it. They also said that I owed more money as I didn't pay the full rate. I showed them my receipt and asked them if there was any other scam they wanted to try on me. Another customer was standing there and when I shot down all their stupid attempts, they said "OK sorry you good customer". Maybe they were honest mistakes, but how stupid can they be? I still think some of the Thais I have dealt with in the monger areas are some of the dumbest people on the planet. This "good customer" won't be back there again.

[QUOTE=Hobbyist2;1536030]Been on Beach road many nights. I see good looking ladies every time I am out and there are always some not so lovely ladies there too. Lately many of the lookers are asking 1500. 2000 for LT. Some will negotiate with me and some won't. Although when I walk back later many of them will drop their price as they realize that money in hand is better than wishing for some. Also, as you would expect, time of night makes a difference. I do still find some decent ladies for 500 ST / 1000 LT, just not as many as in the past. Some ladies have told me that they want to get some ST customers then they may go LT. I saw one lady get two ST customers in the short time frame that I was walking. I am not sure how many she may have had before that, but not exactly what I am looking for in my LT for the night.[/QUOTE]Good report with useful info, thanks.

The quantity of girls on beach road is down significantly as compared to last year. It also varied heavily during weekedays. I am very picky indeed but just to put things in perspective, I walked the entire beach street aara around 7. 30 PM and found only two girls I can make myself agree to have sex with! Very poor quality in terms of looks and bodies. It is a matter of fact that most ladyboys are now prettier than most WGs.

Business is quite a bit down in WS but there are still throngs of visitors. Pattaya has lot better and relaxed atmosphere than in Bangkok. Curiously quality in Bangkok was lower than in Pattaya. There are plenty of Japanese in Pattaya, still using same modus operandi of hitting clubs like baccarat and bar fining from there. You hardly see them looking for wares on beach road. Still quite a few Indians, hunting in groups of 4/5 men on beach road. Someone has decided to throw open a night club especially for welcoming Indian men and money on WS, ADXYZ something. You will see throngs of them entering it as it seems like that may be only venue where they are allowed in. Pattaya is still mostly Russian. It hurts the eyes to see so many beautiful, big boobed rusokovas that are out of reach among a sea of flat chested uglies. Most girls ask for 600-700 for short time, some who salivate at hope of fucking you come straight down to 500. Only one chubby idiot quoted me 1000. The party is still going on in this town but there was unmistakeable air of business being down and good lookers having left the town / business.

I've just come back from my last holidays. I stayed on the Philippines and in Thailand. My personal opinion about Pattaya, contributing to former statements from you guys about Russian invasion and its impacts. Well, all in all I've got to say it's okay. Places where mongers go and where the mostly family oriented Russians hang out are clearly divided. I hate the development as far as that is concerned in Phuket / Patong where mongering has become a walk of shame all the way. I remember my first stay there in 2000, when it was heaven on earth, hardly any families around. They have done a very good job, whatever they've been doing, to keep more and more the mongers away or better said to attract families to spend their holidays in the land of smile. Therefore I mostly avoid Phuket, even though it's a nicer place anything else but mongering is concerned. Costs for mongering are still the same in Pattaya as it was in 2000 whereas the ladies in Phuket seem not to be fed up with asking higher and higher amounts.

I was in Pattaya a few week ago visit Isomnia they have some hot pole dancer there have anyone barfine any of this hot girl before.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Hobbyist2; 1536030]Been on Beach road many nights. I see good looking ladies every time I am out and there are always some not so lovely ladies there too. Lately many of the lookers are asking 1500. 2000 for LT. Some will negotiate with me and some won't. Although when I walk back later many of them will drop their price as they realize that money in hand is better than wishing for some. Also, as you would expect, time of night makes a difference. I do still find some decent ladies for 500 ST / 1000 LT, just not as many as in the past. Some ladies have told me that they want to get some ST customers then they may go LT. I saw one lady get two ST customers in the short time frame that I was walking. I am not sure how many she may have had before that, but not exactly what I am looking for in my LT for the night.

The bars have not been nearly as busy as I would have expected them to be in January and February. I know about the Bangkok issue, but I didn't think that affected too many of us. I have seen in the past many more customers in March and April than there are now. Also the cooler weather we had for awhile seems to have ended. Although still not nearly as bad as low season. It has only rained two times in the last month and a half and that was not much (I was gone for awhile during that time on a visa run).

Nothing really changes here (since I've been coming here) except prices up a little, but that happens everywhere. More ladies than I know what to do with. Although I still have a love / hate thing for Thailand. One hotel tried to rip me off. I had them empty the fridge when I arrived and when I was checking out about 20 days later, they told me I have to pay for those things. A good thing I tipped the maid everyday as she came to my rescue and told them she took the things out as I requested it and someone from the front desk told her to do it. They also said that I owed more money as I didn't pay the full rate. I showed them my receipt and asked them if there was any other scam they wanted to try on me. Another customer was standing there and when I shot down all their stupid attempts, they said "OK sorry you good customer". Maybe they were honest mistakes, but how stupid can they be? I still think some of the Thais I have dealt with in the monger areas are some of the dumbest people on the planet. This "good customer" won't be back there again.[/QUOTE]To Hobbylist.

There last few yr price at beach Road his gone up alot you have a better chance getting a decent girl at 500 bht ST late at night after 2am but most will be older dog and the cute one only want to go ST only for 1000bht even soi 6 girl ST is 1000 bht now in house, Pattaya is full of tourist now high season and they are leaving Bangkok and head to Pattaya most hotel is full.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1537623]To Hobbylist.

There last few yr price at beach Road his gone up alot you have a better chance getting a decent girl at 500 bht ST late at night after 2am but most will be older dog and the cute one only want to go ST only for 1000bht even soi 6 girl ST is 1000 bht now in house, Pattaya is full of tourist now high season and they are leaving Bangkok and head to Pattaya most hotel is full.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I think my post pretty much agrees with yours. Although I have seen a few decent lookers that will go ST for 500 earlier. I saw one nice looking lady (Ann) during the day time and she quoted me 500 ST and when I asked if she would go LT at night, she said 1500. However, later when I called her for LT, she said she just wanted to go ST. I was in soi 6 a week ago and confirm what you stated about prices.

However, I don't understand the guys that say there are no good looking ladies on BR. I see some every time I am out there. I just don't want to pay their price. I saw a go go quality lady last night and her friend go off with two young Japanese guys. I saw several other very pretty ladies. One quoted me 2500 baht. I said no thanks as I have never even paid 2000 in Thailand yet for LT. One night I wish I would have cause she was go go quality and said LT for 2000. That was during the elections when the bars were closed (some were still open, but dark).

[QUOTE=Roginho;1536953]Costs for mongering are still the same in Pattaya as it was in 2000 whereas the ladies in Phuket seem not to be fed up with asking higher and higher amounts.[/QUOTE]Prices for mongering must have been high in 2000 as the prices now have never been higher since I have been coming here. My first trip was in 2011 and I have been here in high and low season. Pattaya still has good value, but if prices continue to rise at the rate they have been lately, other locations may become interesting to me. Maybe the currency exchange had something to do with your costs?

Hi all,

Anyone in Pattaya currently wants to go mongering with me? I prefer to have / be a wingman before I hit the clubs. Makes everything a lot more easier in terms of negotiations, keeping eyes open for scams, exchange options and company while searching for more fun. Had a great time last year. Want to repeat. I stay in Central Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Hobbyist2;1537778]I think my post pretty much agrees with yours. Although I have seen a few decent lookers that will go ST for 500 earlier. I saw one nice looking lady (Ann) during the day time and she quoted me 500 ST and when I asked if she would go LT at night, she said 1500. However, later when I called her for LT, she said she just wanted to go ST.[/QUOTE]Is she a 20 year old cutie with a spot across the Wind hotel? Usually she wears a sun dress, works from noon until 9:00 pm and speaks surprisingly good English. If so I recommend her even for short time. She was not interested in LT with me either. A bit of a mystery girl, but a good provider.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1538042]Is she a 20 year old cutie with a spot across the Wind hotel? Usually she wears a sun dress, works from noon until 9:00 pm and speaks surprisingly good English. If so I recommend her even for short time. She was not interested in LT with me either. A bit of a mystery girl, but a good provider.[/QUOTE]I am not familiar with the Wind hotel and don't remember her exact location, but she was between soi 13 and Royal Garden Plaza / Mall and it was earlier than noon. It could have been 10:00 am and not wearing a sun dress. She was very friendly and smiling and rubbed my arm lightly while talking with me. I am no good at guessing age and I didn't ask, but she was a cutie. I normally don't walk BR at that time, but saw her as I was going to eat and decided to walk back to soi 13 on the beach side and see if she was still there. That is when I talked with her.

Bro,

Your report had good observations. Why don't you name the hotel?

I had a simillar experience at hotel Ibis, the earlier customer had relpaced one odd can of beer which I had to pay for!

It was not much, so I paid up, but the way the sudden turn around of the ever friendly staff was a dampner just before I left the land of smiles.

Another scam on beach road which I should warn aboutis a dark stretch on the beach footwalk betwn A1 and Subway.

Two girls accost you, rub against you, hand on your crotch try to nibble your ear, disorients you, while the third (maybe ladyboy) pats your bum and removes your wallet!

She did, I turned around, caught her hand, and the other one has her hand inside my jacket, so audacious!

When I made a threatening gesture, she laughed and handed me back the wallet. Beware of this treesome one fat, one thin, and one suspected ladyboy.

From my 14 trips, this was the only direct attempt made. Otherwise, I have found Thailand is safe. Any time of the dayor night.

Happy mongering.

NM

[QUOTE=Hobbyist2; 1536030]Been on Beach road many nights. I see good looking ladies every time I am out and there are always somnot so lovely ladies there too. Lately many of the lookers are asking 1500. 2000 for LT. Some will negotiate with me and some won't. Although when I walk back later many of them will drop their price as they realize that money in hand is better than wishing for some. Also, as you would expect, time of night makes a difference. I do still find some decent ladies for 500 ST / 1000 LT, just not as many as in the past. Some ladies have told me that they want to get some ST customers then they may go LT. I saw one lady get two ST customers in the short time frame that I was walking. I am not sure how many she may have had before that, but not exactly what I am looking for in my LT for the night..[/QUOTE]

For all you DrooLing at the thought of hot 500 baht patta cjicks. Drool no more- if they cost 500 baht they ain't anywhere close to being hot!

To each their own but I really can't understand why anyone would go mongering on Beach Road.

My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers and we took a rare venture into Pattaya a few days ago. We walked along Beach Road for the first time in a long time and I could see my wife looking at all the freelancers who were touting for business.

I knew what she was doing and when we got into the car to drive home, she told me that she had counted 57 girls (including ladyboys) who are HIV positive and who regularly receive assistance from her charity.

You don't need me to tell you to rubber up but even that may not be enough!

Remember, a cheap 500 baht fuck may turn out to be the most expensive ride of your life.

[QUOTE=ShaggedOut; 1538369]To each their own but I really can't understand why anyone would go mongering on Beach Road.

My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers and we took a rare venture into Pattaya a few days ago. We walked along Beach Road for the first time in a long time and I could see my wife looking at all the freelancers who were touting for business.

I knew what she was doing and when we got into the car to drive home, she told me that she had counted 57 girls (including ladyboys) who are HIV positive and who regularly receive assistance from her charity.

You don't need me to tell you to rubber up but even that may not be enough!

Remember, a cheap 500 baht fuck may turn out to be the most expensive ride of your life.[/QUOTE]As a responsible counselor why didn't your wife approach some of her clients and counseled them on their irresponsibility behavior? Surely she going to take some action other than head counting otherwise she is pretty irresponsible.

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1538372]As a responsible counselor why didn't your wife approach some of her clients and counseled them on their irresponsibility behavior? Surely she going to take some action other than head counting otherwise she is pretty irresponsible.[/QUOTE]I agree. These kind of posts are totally useless and only contribute to fear mongering.

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1538372]As a responsible counselor why didn't your wife approach some of her clients and counseled them on their irresponsibility behavior? Surely she going to take some action other than head counting otherwise she is pretty irresponsible.[/QUOTE]Calm down. Guy is just pointing out the obvious. Off street anything is shit!

A counselor would know the girls need to come asking for HELP. No need to embarrass them while they looking for Johns. LOL.

Ps I admit I do buy clothes off the street and am quite pleased with my purchases.

[QUOTE=NuMonger; 1538132]Bro,

Your report had good observations. Why don't you name the hotel?

I had a simillar experience at hotel Ibis, the earlier customer had relpaced one odd can of beer which I had to pay for!

It was not much, so I paid up, but the way the sudden turn around of the ever friendly staff was a dampner just before I left the land of smiles.

NM[/QUOTE]AA Pattaya Residence. It is in soi 13, about half way between beach Road and second Road

[QUOTE=Hiihii;1538173]For all you DrooLing at the thought of hot 500 baht patta cjicks. Drool no more- if they cost 500 baht they ain't anywhere close to being hot![/QUOTE]Really, that tells me a lot about what you know. Once I renew my membership I can put you on my ignore list as you obviously don't know much about what is available on BR. I would have to assume everything else you post is full of the same misleading info.

[QUOTE=ShaggedOut; 1538369]My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers and we took a rare venture into Pattaya a few days ago. We walked along Beach Road for the first time in a long time and I could see my wife looking at all the freelancers who were touting for business.

I knew what she was doing and when we got into the car to drive home, she told me that she had counted 57 girls (including ladyboys) who are HIV positive and who regularly receive assistance from her charity.[/QUOTE]How many did she count in the beer bars, gogo bars, massage parlors, and soapies?

I think it best to reserve the safe sex discussions for the area set aside on ISG Thailand Forum for this particular subject. Discussions of this nature outside of the Safe Sex in Thailand thread only leads to discord between members and more importantly prevents other members from reporting on what this particular thread should be about; that is the exchange of information on the subject of finding women for sex in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1538379]I agree. These kind of posts are totally useless and only contribute to fear mongering.[/QUOTE]I disagree. If its a legit issue it should be brout up!

[QUOTE=ShaggedOut; 1538369]To each their own but I really can't understand why anyone would go mongering on Beach Road.

My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers and we took a rare venture into Pattaya a few days ago. We walked along Beach Road for the first time in a long time and I could see my wife looking at all the freelancers who were touting for business.

I knew what she was doing and when we got into the car to drive home, she told me that she had counted 57 girls (including ladyboys) who are HIV positive and who regularly receive assistance from her charity.

You don't need me to tell you to rubber up but even that may not be enough!

Remember, a cheap 500 baht fuck may turn out to be the most expensive ride of your life.[/QUOTE]On Nov 1, 2012 you said "I have a trip to the Philippines coming up within the next few weeks and whilst I love the bar scene, I never go with bar girls as I am married and do not want to take any unwanted gifts back to my wife. Instead, I prefer to meet up with cam girls in the (maybe naive) belief that they are cleaner and healthier than bar girls. Here is a small selection of some of the girls who have agreed to meet up with me. Hopefully more and better quality pics to follow."

On May 24, 2008 you also said " I don't want to spoil anyone's party but I have seen many photo reports concerning Pattaya Beach Road freelancers. My lady is a major fundraiser for a leading AIDS charity in Pattaya even though it is a part-time job, outside of her regular day job. She "sweet talks" fairly large companies and organisations into parting with substantial funds for one particular charity. A few nights ago, we had dinner at the Mantra on Beach Road and then took a long stroll from the restaurant to the start of Walking Street. On the way, she encountered 18 service providers who are registered with her charity as being HIV+. She couldn't remember if it was 7 GGs and 11 Ladyboys or 8 GGs and 10 ladyboys. All, with the exception of 2 or 3, of them appeared outwardly fit and healthy and most of them, upon seeing her, took time to chat with her. I have read many reports of encounters with Beach Road providers and would strongly advocate condom-use if anyone ever uses their services."

And you've been barebacking what? on and off for 33 years now?

Your info could be helpful but next time could you ask your wife to give an accurate count of non LB providers?

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1538379]I agree. These kind of posts are totally useless and only contribute to fear mongering.[/QUOTE]Agree. And by the way, being able to recognize 57 faces out of maybe 200 in a stroll, means this lady has exceptional visual memory beside the charitable attitudes, and her organization needs no computer files.

Yes it sounds fishy.

[QUOTE=ShaggedOut; 1538369]To each their own but I really can't understand why anyone would go mongering on Beach Road.

My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers and we took a rare venture into Pattaya a few days ago. We walked along Beach Road for the first time in a long time and I could see my wife looking at all the freelancers who were touting for business.

I knew what she was doing and when we got into the car to drive home, she told me that she had counted 57 girls (including ladyboys) who are HIV positive and who regularly receive assistance from her charity.

You don't need me to tell you to rubber up but even that may not be enough!

Remember, a cheap 500 baht fuck may turn out to be the most expensive ride of your life.[/QUOTE]I commend your wife as a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi it certainly is a important job especially here! What is confusing to me in your report is why a visit was made since in her consulting she must know from the conversations with her AIDS patients that this is happening? I've lived here for a number of years and know a few HIV ladies and if they are doing P4P infected it does not take a field trip or a rocket science to figure out what is happening.

I also agree with another poster it is not very professional to comfort them on Beach road, that is just my opinion, and even so what does it accomplished these ladies are going to do what it takes to feed themselves and family no different than any monger is going to do to get their rocks off. We all have read the endless debates to cover or not cover. Many feel they are invincible to go uncovered done it for all these years and will continue and there are ladies that go back to work as a payback since this most likely the reason they got it. There is plenty of blame to go around!

Last, what surprises me even more is why you even bother to make this post especially on this site. Certainly you can't be as naive as your wife to think it is going to make a big impact on InternationalSexGuide? It just gives me the impression you are nothing more that a troll or hypocrite for posting here? When you are not with you wife walking on Beach Road what are you doing and does she know you are posting a member of this board?

AIDS is no joke and the work being done is important but personally I just have a hard time taking your post with a grain of salt!

Sorry LBM, If you are not a troll then please tell your wife continue the good work!

[QUOTE=ShaggedOut; 1538369]To each their own but I really can't understand why anyone would go mongering on Beach Road.

My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers and we took a rare venture into Pattaya a few days ago. We walked along Beach Road for the first time in a long time and I could see my wife looking at all the freelancers who were touting for business.

I knew what she was doing and when we got into the car to drive home, she told me that she had counted 57 girls (including ladyboys) who are HIV positive and who regularly receive assistance from her charity.

You don't need me to tell you to rubber up but even that may not be enough!

Remember, a cheap 500 baht fuck may turn out to be the most expensive ride of your life.[/QUOTE]Your story doesn't make sense and if it doesn't make sense it's a lie.

[QUOTE=Hobbyist2;1538441]AA Pattaya Residence. It is in soi 13, about half way between beach Road and second Road[/QUOTE]Always count and check the minibar upon check in, while the room boy is in the room. AA Pattaya Residence is a good place and wouldn't cheat you intentionally.

Some jerk pulled that trick in Burma several years ago, opening the water, replacing Coke with Burma Cola. If I didn't pay, the maid would've been responsible since she didn't catch the creeps little trick when he checked out. Make sure all is okay before you let the room boy go ie: towels, lights, remote, bar, etc. Than give him a good tip.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;1538661]Some jerk pulled that trick in Burma several years ago, opening the water, replacing Coke with Burma Cola. If I didn't pay, the maid would've been responsible since she didn't catch the creeps little trick when he checked out. Make sure all is okay before you let the room boy go ie: towels, lights, remote, bar, etc. Than give him a good tip.[/QUOTE]Some people are really so pathetic! He would have saved himself probably a few dollars and as a consequence the maid would have lost her pay for that day at the very least! As you said a complete creep!

[QUOTE=JesseJames;1538654]Your story doesn't make sense and if it doesn't make sense it's a lie.[/QUOTE]Hookers are disease free. That's true! Or is it a myth propulgated by Mrs Clinton. LOL.

You can't be all into Beach Road 500 baht hookers.

[QUOTE=JesseJames; 1538661]Always count and check the minibar upon check in, while the room boy is in the room. AA Pattaya Residence is a good place and wouldn't cheat you intentionally.

Some jerk pulled that trick in Burma several years ago, opening the water, replacing Coke with Burma Cola. If I didn't pay, the maid would've been responsible since she didn't catch the creeps little trick when he checked out. Make sure all is okay before you let the room boy go ie: towels, lights, remote, bar, etc. Than give him a good tip.[/QUOTE]Truth is I usually try to avoid rooms with a minibar-too much hassle. I prefer a room with just a empty refrig. Where I can put anything I want in it

[QUOTE=JesseJames; 1538661]Always count and check the minibar upon check in, while the room boy is in the room. AA Pattaya Residence is a good place and wouldn't cheat you intentionally.

Some jerk pulled that trick in Burma several years ago, opening the water, replacing Coke with Burma Cola. If I didn't pay, the maid would've been responsible since she didn't catch the creeps little trick when he checked out. Make sure all is okay before you let the room boy go ie: towels, lights, remote, bar, etc. Than give him a good tip.[/QUOTE]Just tell them to empty out the minibar and avoid the whole problem.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;1538661]Always count and check the minibar upon check in, while the room boy is in the room. AA Pattaya Residence is a good place and wouldn't cheat you intentionally.[/QUOTE]I stopped by there to inquire about a room. After we agreed on a price I gave them a deposit for the room and they gave me a receipt. Several days later when I came back to check in, they asked for that receipt. I thought they just wanted to look at it but they kept it. I asked for it back, but they would not give it to me and said that was just for the deposit or something stupid like that. That was after I paid them in full for my 20 days stay. I demanded a receipt and they gave me one that only showed how much I paid. No other details. If I would not have had that when I checked out, I would have had to pay extra as they said I did not pay the full amount.

As I said in my other post, maybe an honest mistake or maybe just a dumb way of doing business. What I know for sure is that the receipt that I demanded saved me from being cheated out of money I didn't owe. I guess from now on I will also have to ask for a receipt when I want the minibar junk removed.

[QUOTE=Fun In Mumbai; 1537816]Hi all,

Anyone in Pattaya currently wants to go mongering with me? I prefer to have / be a wingman before I hit the clubs. Makes everything a lot more easier in terms of negotiations, keeping eyes open for scams, exchange options and company while searching for more fun. Had a great time last year. Want to repeat. I stay in Central Pattaya.[/QUOTE]FIM,

I am back in blre, & suggest you try the floor shows at Angelwitch, WS. No rip off, good girls, Sadly, not many upscale gogos entertain Indians. Blame it on some of us, stingy but wanting all. Set an example, tip lots of respect with the baht s that is mandatory. Most thai girls are sweethearts'

Have you been to rasputin? Recommended soapie, try once. I suggest you avoid beach girls. At the gogos, you see what you get. And good music.

Have fun. Pm me and I can recommend a girl who is not a all out WG. She and sister works on references.

Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=ShaggedOut; 1538369]My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers and we took a rare venture into Pattaya a few days ago. We walked along Beach Road for the first time in a long time and I could see my wife looking at all the freelancers who were touting for business.

I knew what she was doing and when we got into the car to drive home, she told me that she had counted 57 girls (including ladyboys) who are HIV positive and who regularly receive assistance from her charity.[/QUOTE]I'm all for telling people to rubber up, but must call pure bullshit on this one.

Chonburi province is covers a large area, has over 2 million people and multiple hospitals.

As others pointed out, your wife must have exceptional memory and face recognitions skills, at night no less (since beach girls no longer hang out in numbers during the day). Assuming her charity from a town 80km away works with the general AIDS population in the province (I. E. Does not focus on Beach Road girls specifically) , she must be able to recall several thousand faces instantly, based on the a brief interaction under different conditions (in terms of lighting, makeup etc). Remarkable feat!

If she was able to personally recognize 57 HIV+ girls on Beach Road, it means there are many times more HIV+ girls who didn't seek help from her charity, or did not interact with your wife specifically (assuming she's not the only person there). Moreover, there are yet more who are not aware of their HIV status or haven't contacted any institutions. Rough back-of-hand calculation (taking a conservative estimate of 4x for the first number and 2x for the second) , says that there must have been 450 HIV+ girls on the beach at that time. More than the total number of working girls there on a typical night.

Again, no chance whatsoever of this being true.

[QUOTE=ShaggedOut; 1538369]To each their own but I really can't understand why anyone would go mongering on Beach Road.

My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers.[/QUOTE]Nobody 'prominent' is married to a farang sex tourist. ;)

Walking BR last night and this cutie approaches me. I ask if she goes LT and she says yes. I say how much and she says 1200. I didn't see a need to negotiate as that was a fair price so off we go to my room. This lady is 25 and no kids. Nice body and good attitude.

Too bad for those who can never find any lookers or the ones who go for less than 1500. Of course there are those guys who couldn't get laid in a hore house with a wad of $100 bills either. lol

[QUOTE=Hobbyist2;1539279]Walking BR last night and this cutie approaches me. I ask if she goes LT and she says yes. I say how much and she says 1200. I didn't see a need to negotiate as that was a fair price so off we go to my room. This lady is 25 and no kids. Nice body and good attitude.

Too bad for those who can never find any lookers or the ones who go for less than 1500. Of course there are those guys who couldn't get laid in a hore house with a wad of $100 bills either. lol[/QUOTE]I was on Beach Road yesterday and last night thinking the exact same shit. The biggest problem is deciding which one to choose.

I am back from my vacation at Pattaya for the past 5 days.

Managed to meet Mr. Ent at Lucifer and another friend too. Had an amazing experience this time also, as usual. Covered all live music places, discos along with some go go's too.

Have attached a sample pic of a girl who was over there for the weekend from Bangkok, was a nice pick. She even dropped me back to the airport on her way back to Bangkok.

Even managed to have a good time with a Russian from Mask Club and a Black Girl from Tanzania. They are available towards the end of walking street near the Bali hat pier

[QUOTE=Flyte137; 1539349]I am back from my vacation at Pattaya for the past 5 days.

Managed to meet Mr. Ent at Lucifer and another friend too. Had an amazing experience this time also, as usual. Covered all live music places, discos along with some go go's too.

Have attached a sample pic of a girl who was over there for the weekend from Bangkok, was a nice pick. She even dropped me back to the airport on her way back to Bangkok.

Even managed to have a good time with a Russian from Mask Club and a Black Girl from Tanzania. They are available towards the end of walking street near the Bali hat pier[/QUOTE]So glad you had a great time my friend! That's what life and the forum is all about.

[QUOTE=Flyte137; 1539349]I am back from my vacation at Pattaya for the past 5 days.

Managed to meet Mr. Ent at Lucifer and another friend too. Had an amazing experience this time also, as usual. Covered all live music places, discos along with some go go's too.

Have attached a sample pic of a girl who was over there for the weekend from Bangkok, was a nice pick. She even dropped me back to the airport on her way back to Bangkok.

Even managed to have a good time with a Russian from Mask Club and a Black Girl from Tanzania. They are available towards the end of walking street near the Bali hat pier[/QUOTE]I reckon this is a 500 baht beach road type hot girl.

[QUOTE=Hobbyist2; 1538855]I stopped by there to inquire about a room. After we agreed on a price I gave them a deposit for the room and they gave me a receipt. Several days later when I came back to check in, they asked for that receipt. I thought they just wanted to look at it but they kept it. I asked for it back, but they would not give it to me and said that was just for the deposit or something stupid like that. That was after I paid them in full for my 20 days stay. I demanded a receipt and they gave me one that only showed how much I paid. No other details. If I would not have had that when I checked out, I would have had to pay extra as they said I did not pay the full amount.

As I said in my other post, maybe an honest mistake or maybe just a dumb way of doing business. What I know for sure is that the receipt that I demanded saved me from being cheated out of money I didn't owe. I guess from now on I will also have to ask for a receipt when I want the minibar junk removed.[/QUOTE]I usually stay at another hotel but have stayed at AA Residence as a back up. I just call and book a room for that night. They say what time and I tell them. I would never pay 20 days in advance. Who does that? If it was New Year's Eve weekend, I'd give them one night, for a reservation, that's it.

As far as the minibar, sometimes I tell the room boy I'm going to empty it. Usually, I just tuck it into a closet. 12 bottles, big deal. I can do that in 5 minutes. Tell the maid, if you see her. They don't care. People do that all the time. Not using the minibar saves her a trip downstairs to get new bottles.

It seems you didn't lose money, that's good. It just sounds like there was confusion because nobody hands over 20, 000 Baht in advance and they wanted to cover their ass. Probably more than the desk managers monthly salary.

[QUOTE=Hobbyist2;1537782]Prices for mongering must have been high in 2000 as the prices now have never been higher since I have been coming here. My first trip was in 2011 and I have been here in high and low season. Pattaya still has good value, but if prices continue to rise at the rate they have been lately, other locations may become interesting to me. Maybe the currency exchange had something to do with your costs?[/QUOTE]To Hobbyist2.

The Thai Baht is much stronger now than in 2000 one USD is around 45 Bht back then, price for mongering is much lower back then half the price than now even 2011 everything is cheaper than nowdays.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=JesseJames; 1539816]I usually stay at another hotel but have stayed at AA Residence as a back up. I just call and book a room for that night. They say what time and I tell them. I would never pay 20 days in advance. Who does that? If it was New Year's Eve weekend, I'd give them one night, for a reservation, that's it.

It seems you didn't lose money, that's good. It just sounds like there was confusion because nobody hands over 20, 000 Baht in advance and they wanted to cover their ass. Probably more than the desk managers monthly salary.[/QUOTE]

Which hotels do you stay at for longer stays with a better rate that don't require the money up front at check in? Also, who said I handed over 20, 000 B?

I have seen someone lose their room to me this trip because they were paying daily. I booked that room for 7 days and the manager told them their room was no longer available and they had to check out and I checked in. OK, I am moving on from this topic.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1539080]I'm all for telling people to rubber up, but must call pure bullshit on this one.

Chonburi province is covers a large area, has over 2 million people and multiple hospitals.

As others pointed out, your wife must have exceptional memory and face recognitions skills, at night no less (since beach girls no longer hang out in numbers during the day). Assuming her charity from a town 80km away works with the general AIDS population in the province (I. E. Does not focus on Beach Road girls specifically) , she must be able to recall several thousand faces instantly, based on the a brief interaction under different conditions (in terms of lighting, makeup etc). Remarkable feat!

If she was able to personally recognize 57 HIV+ girls on Beach Road, it means there are many times more HIV+ girls who didn't seek help from her charity, or did not interact with your wife specifically (assuming she's not the only person there). Moreover, there are yet more who are not aware of their HIV status or haven't contacted any institutions. Rough back-of-hand calculation (taking a conservative estimate of 4x for the first number and 2x for the second) , says that there must have been 450 HIV+ girls on the beach at that time. More than the total number of working girls there on a typical night.

Again, no chance whatsoever of this being true.[/QUOTE]"No chance whatsoever of this being true"!

It's your life but I stand by what I posted. If you choose not to believe it then that is your choice. I know the truth.

Here's is another one that has not quite worked. Yesterday night I went with my affluent friend to a couple of GoGos, he likes Queens in LK metro. They do a couple of masquerade shows and a pole dance one, both are nice to watch. Girls there vary from 6 to virtual 9, almost all have a nice attitude. Of the other I will post the name later, but its a small one, all white inside, has two doors one on WS the other on the bars alley about midway. This one has less attractive, unless you dig the two petite LBs of which one has an hourglass figure that is hard to believe before you see. I will concede she could be an extreme case of a woman, what do I know after all. Anyway, in there he gets hits for more and more drinks, by two girls no less. I managed my boredom being numbed by for entry level beers from different places. He finally gets pissed off by an insisting Tequila pitcher and we took off for a quick tour of Marine Disco a little past 3 am.

There was enough material, I spoke to a young one sitting by herself, her name is Naan. Altough she seemed unconvinced, she accepted 1, 000 for LT, looks were plain but no major fat, she has serious acne anyway. In the room she is nice and jokeful, kisses and gives a decent BJ CIM. After that she made clear that I would had no more because the money was too little. She even added that she gets 1,500 for ST that all that is right and she isn't stupid. Being very tired, In this case I skipped all discussions, gave her the agreed plus taxi money, she dressed up and took the door, leaving behind a ladies watch, some earrings, and the breakfast I had bought. I have no use for the filrst items, but happily shared the second with my regular that came to see me later.

After 4 long years of lusting I finally went out with and fucked the girl who does my massages. 26 years old. Said she has not had sex in 4 years since coming to Pattaya and leaving her hometown boyfriend. She was screaming bloody murder, but no pain no gain.

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1540548]she dressed up and took the door, leaving behind a ladies watch, some earrings,[/QUOTE]Get your self some good karma: go find her again and return her stuff.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1540712]Get your self some good karma: go find her again and return her stuff.[/QUOTE]Good karma? [url]Bwwwwaaa.[/url] Did you miss the part about her agreeing to 1000 LT then getting to the room and only doing BJ CIM? Maybe her bad karma was leaving her stuff in his room since she reneged on the deal.

[QUOTE=ShaggedOut; 1540514]"No chance whatsoever of this being true"!

It's your life but I stand by what I posted. If you choose not to believe it then that is your choice. I know the truth.[/QUOTE]I think Crocodileexp post makes total sense, yours definitely does not, considering all the arguments Crocodilexp counted up one after one after one.

You're lucky I don't report you for writing total BS in this thread, you could at least come up with some convincing statements.

You must be a totally shagged out NGO. Give us a break ok.

Me, as a rookie coming to Pattaya and paying 1000 for LT and 500 for ST with attractive freelancers found in discoteques and Beach Road, it really amazes me how easily some of the mongers in here are scammed and fooled with twice the real rates.

I've had one 25 yrs hottie from Insomnia agree to 1000 LT, one 21 yrs hottie from Marine Disco asking nothing but got 1000 LT and one 23 yrs look good from Beach Road agree to 500 ST.

You really have to bargain and keep the real prices low, if they struggle just walk away, and no, I'm no Prince Charming I can promise, if I were I could have stayed at home in my country.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1540784]Good karma?

[url]Bwwwwaaa.[/url]

Did you miss the part about her agreeing to 1000 LT then getting to the room and only doing BJ CIM? Maybe her bad karma was leaving her stuff in his room since she reneged on the deal.[/QUOTE]Maybe, but consider it a great opportunity to improve both karmic balances: she gave a bad service and karma made her forget her watch and earrings. But on the other hand it was our fellow monger who got the bad service, perhaps to atone for some past transgressions? So he can now rebalance his karma and she will get the chance to show her gratitude and in doing so improve hers as well. Everybody wins! Sadhu sadhu sadhu!

Sorry, little acney's stuff went to the boys that helped me move room today, for a spacious one with some jungle view, for 9,000 a month. I believe I belong to the positive side of Karma anyway, so I'm not worried.

For the daily report, yesterday my affluent friend wanted to play more so we went to the Moon gogo again. They had no draft beer, I did not indicate an alternative, unbeliavably they left me alone for more than 1 hour! My friend waited for past midnight to barfine a girl of his liking, to be honest she looks chubby, plain and boring to me. For the privilege he separated from one of these nice 1K bills. Since it was too early for Lucifer, we went to Candy Shop. There was a dark, tattoed skinny girl sitting at our table I would not taken for free, on the other hand there was another one good looking like 19 yrs that was prime material for those that can play that game. Drink prices are even higher than other place, I took a small bottle of Sam Song for Bt 660, as with all the bottles they will tag and keep it for a further time.

From there we went to Mixx, lots of mixed ethnics young men but very few pretty girls worth, it seemed more like a fattie hip-hop girl gathering. A Chinese-looking Russian was there full of attitude, but she did not even bothered putting make-up on. Truly a seller market as I've been saying since ages. No further damage suffered from me at least, after enough fucking around was had, we all went home, including the girl to her own room.

[QUOTE=CockTeased; 1540872]Me, as a rookie coming to Pattaya and paying 1000 for LT and 500 for ST with attractive freelancers found in discoteques and Beach Road, it really amazes me how easily some of the mongers in here are scammed and fooled with twice the real rates.

I've had one 25 yrs hottie from Insomnia agree to 1000 LT, one 21 yrs hottie from Marine Disco asking nothing but got 1000 LT and one 23 yrs look good from Beach Road agree to 500 ST.

You really have to bargain and keep the real prices low, if they struggle just walk away, and no, I'm no Prince Charming I can promise, if I were I could have stayed at home in my country.[/QUOTE]Not everyone is prepared to bargain hard. If they want a particular little hottie and she wants 1500 for LT, not everyone is prepared to kill the fun for the sake of 500 baht (or a meal in McDonalds).

Some guys only make it to LOS once or twice a year and are cash rich and time poor. Consequently they don't bother to haggle. I agree this pushes prices up, but not sure if everyone cares specially those who only visit occasionally.

I was telling to a friend, before leaving for Thailand that I was going to grow my cynism with repeated observation of the sad human reality that is here.

For sure the occasions are not lacking. Few examples. At the place where I'm staying there is an elder European gent, he travelled all over Asia since the 60s. He appears lucid and active, mentioned he has a nice house with his GF, but since they are painting (work done by GF "brother") some rooms, it was decided that it would have been "better for him to stay outside". Said lady showed up with a sister driving a nice car yesterday. Without saying a word, they hand him some washed clothes, turned back and drive away. I could not tell if the gent was embarassed with by that, yet he still calls her "my baby" and awaits her calls all the time.

My rich friend also seen the scene and remarked on the disrespect. Unfortunately he's not doing much better. Yesterday he barfined the same girl for the third time, we went to Differ, one of these regular clubs for Thais. As the wiskey bottle and sodas bill come, I hand him an 1K note to cover my part. His girl grabs it and put it in her bra with one of these smiles. He seemed puzzled for a second, then he shrugs shoulders and let her keep it. She's just 19 but for sure knows how to play it. I don't know how much my friend had tought of giving her for the non-sexual company, but where do I come from, payments are given not grabbed. He then apologized to me about it, to which I could only reply that it was his money already. I don't know if and how I should tell him that he should stop being an idiot, as for someone having business in Thailand, and speaking some Thai, he could do without this treatment.

We were also joined by another foreigner with business in Thailand, he brought his GF (supposedly she runs a bar) and chubby tagger, also noticeable in lack of empathy. The 19 yrs old immedialy took a dislike to these three and vice-versa. What a pitiful time. There were a Thai couple sitting there, possibly the only genuinely friendly people I've seen that night. We partied with them a little, later on my friend told me that this Thai lady got her phone stolen from the table. Who has took it, we don't know.

Finally we ended at Mixx. For a change, a small cute Thai spinner showed up. Her request 2K take or leave it, I passed. On the other side there was Uzbekistan ladies social club in full swing. My friend said the request was to be 5K, I said 4K and in the end I guessed right, that from a mature fat woman of uncertain hair color, that claimed to be actually Russian.

Have to say I'm not exempt from misery either, for one I have to stop wasting money with booze that I don't even like. I'm also considering actively praying for better luck.

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1541284]I was telling to a friend, before leaving for Thailand that I was going to grow my cynism with repeated observation of the sad human reality that is here.[/QUOTE]Another great story. Thanks for keeping it real!

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1541284]I was telling to a friend, before leaving for Thailand that I was going to grow my cynism with repeated observation of the sad human reality that is here.[/QUOTE]You are to be commended for your reports and writing skills. One of the few who I wish would post more often.

[QUOTE=El Flaco; 1541284]I was telling to a friend, before leaving for Thailand that I was going to grow my cynism with repeated observation of the sad human reality that is here.

For sure the occasions are not lacking. Few examples. At the place where I'm staying there is an elder European gent, he travelled all over Asia since the 60s. He appears lucid and active, mentioned he has a nice house with his GF, but since they are painting (work done by GF "brother") some rooms, it was decided that it would have been "better for him to stay outside". Said lady showed up with a sister driving a nice car yesterday. Without saying a word, they hand him some washed clothes, turned back and drive away. I could not tell if the gent was embarassed with by that, yet he still calls her "my baby" and awaits her calls all the time.

My rich friend also seen the scene and remarked on the disrespect. Unfortunately he's not doing much better. Yesterday he barfined the same girl for the third time, we went to Differ, one of these regular clubs for Thais. As the wiskey bottle and sodas bill come, I hand him an 1K note to cover my part. His girl grabs it and put it in her bra with one of these smiles. He seemed puzzled for a second, then he shrugs shoulders and let her keep it. She's just 19 but for sure knows how to play it. I don't know how much my friend had tought of giving her for the non-sexual company, but where do I come from, payments are given not grabbed. He then apologized to me about it, to which I could only reply that it was his money already. I don't know if and how I should tell him that he should stop being an idiot, as for someone having business in Thailand, and speaking some Thai, he could do without this treatment.

We were also joined by another foreigner with business in Thailand, he brought his GF (supposedly she runs a bar) and chubby tagger, also noticeable in lack of empathy. The 19 yrs old immedialy took a dislike to these three and vice-versa. What a pitiful time. There were a Thai couple sitting there, possibly the only genuinely friendly people I've seen that night. We partied with them a little, later on my friend told me that this Thai lady got her phone stolen from the table. Who has took it, we don't know.

Finally we ended at Mixx. For a change, a small cute Thai spinner showed up. Her request 2K take or leave it, I passed. On the other side there was Uzbekistan ladies social club in full swing. My friend said the request was to be 5K, I said 4K and in the end I guessed right, that from a mature fat woman of uncertain hair color, that claimed to be actually Russian.

Have to say I'm not exempt from misery either, for one I have to stop wasting money with booze that I don't even like. I'm also considering actively praying for better luck.[/QUOTE]I can understand how you are feeling El Flaco, I have only been to TH and Pattaya for one week but already thinking of leaving to see if BKK is better. Sure I have succeeded to pay 500 for ST and 1000 for LT but honestly, Pattaya has a rough, hardened athmosphere, far more hardened than Patong and I hope that BKK will be friendlier than here.

Also, the average age of hookers here are too high. I think I will be leaving with the bus to BKK already tomorrow.

i went to the airport go-go bar on walking street around 10:30pm. i sat down sipping my beer and waiting to see what would happen. next to me a group of guys were discussing playfully with a bargirl whose body i liked. when the guys left i turned to her and said: "i thought you would leave with one of those guys". she replied the guy had a girlfriend, which i translated in my head as "he didn't want me bad enough". well, his loss is my gain.

she came next to me and i bought her a lady drink. her name was dan, which was a bit weird because in the us it's a guy's name but this is thailand so i guess anything goes. she got me hard just by kissing me and grinding her shapely and barely covered buttocks on the front of my blue jeans. that was as much confirmation as i required and we started discussing bar fine, short-time fee, etc. she asked what i liked to do in the sack, and stupidly i did not say anything. i realized later that it's the time to come out with requests that are beyond the regular menu. when i was ready to pay the barfine, she made a move as if i would pay it to her, but i've been accused by a mamasan at a go-go bar in bangkok of not having paid a bar fine on a previous visit, so now i'm prudent and only pay the barfine to a waitress directly.

we went to the short-time hotel. i was behind her walking up the stairs and could not tear my eyes off the bum and the legs waving right under my nose with every step. it's almost always the best moment of the evening because of its qualities of voyeurism and anticipation. i put my valuables in the safe, as giant posters rep001tered throughout the hotel ordered me to. she pretended to take offence at that. she said ladyboys were thieves but she was honest and i did not need to use the safe. i pretended i always obeyed official instructions posted on the wall. obviously that's a lie because many massage shops i patronize have a poster saying absolutely definitely no sexual act of any kind must take place in this room, and that's usually where the horniest masseuses start sucking my dick even before the shower is over, but i digress.

i took the excuse of this discussion to ask her if she was a ladyboy. she said "why, are you afraid of ladyboys?" i'm used to shaming tactics where anything you say is turned into a mental disease and an evidence of irrationality, like trans-phobia or whatever it's called these days by the masters of political correctness in the west, so i didn't fall for that. i said asking if she's a ladyboy is a fair question and i like to be informed. anyway she said she had a baby, so that pretty much stopped this line of enquiry.

after the shower, the rest is kind of a blur, so i won't bother describing it overly precisely, but i do remember feeling that the service was excellent. at one point i asked for rimming, she pretended not to hear / understand, and i let it drop. later, i asked to come in her mouth, and maybe that was more to her liking, or she felt bad about refusing two consecutive requests, so she complied. it was a really good feeling and she took it like the pro that she is.

all in all a very nice experience. i like airport because the girls there are a bit less shy about initiating eye contact than at sensations. even though sensations has more quality girls on display, they look less flirtatious. i went back to airport the next day and dan said hi to me again with a big smile, but i told her i wanted a different girl so she left me alone without displaying any hint of bitterness, which i thought was respectful of her.

the damage:

beer 120 baht.

lady drink 135 baht.

bar fine 700 baht.

short-time hotel 350 baht.

condom 15 baht.

short time 2000 baht.

tip 200 baht.

total: 3520 baht

[QUOTE=CockTeased; 1540865]I think Crocodileexp post makes total sense, yours definitely does not, considering all the arguments Crocodilexp counted up one after one after one.

You're lucky I don't report you for writing total BS in this thread, you could at least come up with some convincing statements.

You must be a totally shagged out NGO. Give us a break ok.[/QUOTE]I feel so honored that you have not reported me. Some people will just not accept the truth, I really don't give a flying fuck if you take home some exotic disease. I could shoot down Croc's post but what's the point of getting involved in a pissing match on a sex site. Just carry on shagging BR hookers if that is your choice, good luck!

[QUOTE=El Flaco; 1541284]I was telling to a friend, before leaving for Thailand that I was going to grow my cynism with repeated observation of the sad human reality that is here.

Few examples. At the place where I'm staying there is an elder European gent, he travelled all over Asia since the 60s. He appears lucid and active, mentioned he has a nice house with his GF, but since they are painting (work done by GF "brother") some rooms, it was decided that it would have been "better for him to stay outside". Said lady showed up with a sister driving a nice car yesterday. Without saying a word, they hand him some washed clothes, turned back and drive away. I could not tell if the gent was embarassed with by that, yet he still calls her "my baby" and awaits her calls all the time.

My rich friend also seen the scene and remarked on the disrespect. Unfortunately he's not doing much better. Yesterday he barfined the same girl for the third time, we went to Differ, one of these regular clubs for Thais. As the wiskey bottle and sodas bill come, I hand him an 1K note to cover my part. His girl grabs it and put it in her bra with one of these smiles. He seemed puzzled for a second, then he shrugs shoulders and let her keep it. She's just 19 but for sure knows how to play it. I don't know how much my friend had tought of giving her for the non-sexual company, but where do I come from, payments are given not grabbed. He then apologized to me about it, to which I could only reply that it was his money already. I don't know if and how I should tell him that he should stop being an idiot, as for someone having business in Thailand, and speaking some Thai, he could do without this treatment.

Have to say I'm not exempt from misery either, for one I have to stop wasting money with booze that I don't even like. I'm also considering actively praying for better luck.[/QUOTE]Your friend is either a sucker or a fool or both. I say fool because he is being used and he knows it. If some of these ladys think you are weak and you are easy prey, then they will take advantage of you. The thing is he lets them. I have no pitty for people like that. There are many ladies here who would take good care of this man and treat him with respect, but they are closer to the 30 yr range or above and not 19. You didn't say how old he is, but since he has been traveling since the 60s, I can only imagine.

Pattaya has a lot to do with what you make of it. There are issues here and I could list many, but what is an issue for me may be nothing to others. I don't drink or smoke and I stay away from go go joints. Also, I would never try to paint some pseudo utopia about this place and I can complain about it with the best complainers here. However, I make the best I can of what this place is and then just deal with the parts that annoy the heck out of me or I could go somewhere else. Of course I would then have to deal with the issues that any other place would have. I have been here over 2 months so far this trip and I can say that I am very happy. Although I do look forward to going home and also returning again. Good luck.

Anyone notice the R4 cooktail girl who is trying her hand at being a provider of explicit sex. Not much interest in her. Not ugly by any means but not all that pretty either. Kind of sad to see such things.

[QUOTE=Hobbyist2;1541616]Your friend is either a sucker or a fool or both. I say fool because he is being used and he knows it. If some of these ladys think you are weak and you are easy prey, then they will take advantage of you. The thing is he lets them. I have no pitty for people like that. There are many ladies here who would take good care of this man and treat him with respect, but they are closer to the 30 yr range or above and not 19. You didn't say how old he is, but since he has been traveling since the 60s, I can only imagine.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. There is actually two guys in the story, one is the elder European, and the other is my friend, not so old, not European, but wealthy. Yesterday we went again to The Moon. By now all girls know us, and flock to him as he's a ladydrinks buyer, while they only smile and make small talk to me that I'm not. That was to be finally the time for him to take chubby 19yrs old to his room. Barfined, she gets dressed (nothing impressive) and as we walk back to the car, she starts walking ahead, I look at her and she had put up a shitty face. There the penny finally dropped. I asked her what was wrong with her, she said she was't happy because she was not making the 50 drinks monthly quota. I could not stay silent any longer and told her how bad she was, having a good customer and talking such bullshit. Luckly the truth dawned to my friend too, returned her to the bar, in less than 2 minutes the barfine was refunded by a sorry mamasan on a tray. My friend told me he had asked the girl the night before to shampoo, thing that she did not even bothered doing, perhaps it was that that made him finally click. I whish she has learned the lesson, but I'm sure she didn't. She will get just lazier and fatter.

Afterward we worked Mixx briefly, strangely enough there were a few FLs by the "techno" room, one was cute enough but played the idiotic "stay with my friends" BS, we would not take them all, so moved on to Queen in LK. Around 3am all places are closing and you can try to make a deal outside the bar, for a try I approached the slim, decently breasted woman that must be allergic to panties, as she never wore them. She said it would have been ok as long done discretely. 1,500 for "medium time". I just dragged my foot to no deal. At 3:15 sharp the last remaining girls ran away off from the podium and everyone called it a night.

i stopped by [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s at their new (to me) location. they are next to a bar called "balls", so i homed in on the "balls" sign. homing in on balls does have me questioning my sexual orientation, but whatever works.

first floor smelled like the toilet, or perhaps many toilets, had overflowed, producing a biblical-proportioned cascade of turds cascading through the place, but, to sorely mix metaphors, some modern day moses had parted the brown sea by the time i got there. the upstairs was not similarly scented, so life was good, as apparently it is in the room next to mine as i write this: this guy is either getting great sex or pounding out a huge log.

the provider (back to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. not the turd) was a chunky little thing, but had pretty good technique. not a lot of attention to the peripherals, but a good, solid sucker. still, as is my increasingly unfortunate custom, i kept her at it for a lot longer than would have been desirable, but she was a real trooper.

okay, maybe my neighbor is actually physically ill. that sounded like a mighty kaleidoscopic yawn followed by some dry-heave aftershocks.

i'll definitely repeat at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s: good service, good a / c, rooms that smelled better than the lobby, etc, though i should probably try the competition as well. a tough task, but i feel that i am up to it.

[quote=oosik; 1542095]i stopped by [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s at their new (to me) location. they are next to a bar called "balls", so i homed in on the "balls" sign. homing in on balls does have me questioning my sexual orientation, but whatever works.

first floor smelled like the toilet, or perhaps many toilets, had overflowed, producing a biblical-proportioned cascade of turds cascading through the place, but, to sorely mix metaphors, some modern day moses had parted the brown sea by the time i got there. the upstairs was not similarly scented, so life was good, as apparently it is in the room next to mine as i write this: this guy is either getting great sex or pounding out a huge log.

the provider (back to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. not the turd) was a chunky little thing, but had pretty good technique. not a lot of attention to the peripherals, but a good, solid sucker. still, as is my increasingly unfortunate custom, i kept her at it for a lot longer than would have been desirable, but she was a real trooper.

okay, maybe my neighbor is actually physically ill. that sounded like a mighty kaleidoscopic yawn followed by some dry-heave aftershocks.

i'll definitely repeat at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s: good service, good a / c, rooms that smelled better than the lobby, etc, though i should probably try the competition as well. a tough task, but i feel that i am up to it.[/quote]ahahah! i could not skip quoting any part of your posting because all are funny and fantasiously written! keep doing and consider cologne soaked cotton up your nostrils for a next time!

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1542096]Ahahah! I could not skip quoting any part of your posting because all are funny and fantasiously written! Keep doing and consider cologne soaked cotton up your nostrils for a next time![/QUOTE]Maybe just try the Bliss Lounge just a short walk east on Third Road.

Dear all,

Would like to know the best way (website / agency / area) to call up a Foreigner Massuesse to Hotel Room and get good massage & FS both?

Thanks in Advance.

This a city, which is very much oriented towards tourism, including plenty sex-tourism in some parts of the town, like near the beach. Two of the main streets, with major nightlife that I checked out, are walking street and beach road. Walking street is about 1 mile long, and has a lot of go-go bars, cafe, noisy music, light ads and girls everywhere. As in someother streets in Pattaya, it can smell rather strange. I think it must be the sewers. Things can get pretty loud and crazy there as well, but I would not say it gets dangerous. Police is present here and there, and they mix on the street with all the working girls, tourists and people that want to sell all their things to the tourists. Most of the bars stay open until 3 AM or even later. I would say 10% to 20% of the girls are lady-boys. Hard to see sometimes whether they are a real woman / girl or not. Some of the prettiest girls you will see, are lady boys. Many of the (real) girls, are rather average, I think there is more quality to be found in Bangkok. Yet, if you look long enough, you will find someone.

On walking street, my guess is that 50% of all the Thai women there, are working girls or go-go girls. Many of the young and pretty ones stand in front of the club, to lure or draw in the customers. They sometimes literally pull you into the go-go club. Anyway, you can always take a look and walk out again rather quickly, if you don't like it. I checked out a bunch of them, but was not too impressed. I did like the the rather naughty Windmill go-go club, near the middle of walking street. Nice girls, and some of show their pretty pussies, while dancing. Just google it (Pattaya windmill go go) and you will find it. Bar-fine is 700 baht. Short time (ST = 1 to max 2 hours) is 2000 baht, but you can always try to negotiate to a lower fee with the lady.

On walking street there are also some Russian cafe's and bars, even a Russian strip bar. My impression is that about half or more of all the tourists are from Russia or countries close to Russia. My observation: the prettiest women you will see here (this time of year?) are often the Russian tourists. I saw stunning 9's and 10's. Of course they are not WG.

The beach road is the continuation of walking street (in south Pattaya) and several miles long. It has many side streets which are stuffed with bars, cafes, restaurants and of course massage parlours. Some are traditional onex, and others offer something extra like HJ or FS. You see the difference by looking at the name. Happy "this or that" massage, as well as the girls in front of it says it all. If they are 40+, you know this is a normal place. Are most of the girls 18-30, well, then you get the picture. On beach road you will find plenty street walkers. For them there is no bar fine ofc. Again, many ladyboys. I would say 20-30%. They will try even harder than the real girls to get your attention. My guess is that starting from some 500 baht, they are willing to do ST. Anyway, since it is not my thing, I'm not interested. The ladies there, start from about 700 Baht for short time. Most will accept 1000 baht, but this is dependent on their age and good or not so good looks. I picked a nice girl (7 on a scale of 1-10) from Cambodia there, for 90 minutes. 1000 baht, which offered good service. Most the WG's here though are too rough around the edges or just plain too old for me. (I mean 40+, sorry ladies)

The other option you have here, on both streets, are the bars and beer gardens. You will find easily some 100 girls in the big ones, spread over several smaller bars, all inside one hall or mall. They will yell at you (come here, take me, sexy man, etc.) when you walk by and try to get you into their bar. If you see anyone you like, you buy yourself and / or the lady a drink. (starts at some 60 baht) Bar fine is around 300 baht. ST is pretty standard around 1000-1200 and long time can be 2000 and up. But all fees are negotiable, as always.

My assessment: the go-go girls are the best. They are also the ones who ask most for their services, but as in most cases, you get what you pay for. 2700 baht for 2 hours of good service (60 Euro, or 90 USD) is not bad at all. If you are willing to take the risk, you can however get lucky and find a streetwalker who will give you a good time, for 800 baht or so. The main risk is that I think these girls do not get regular (or even any) health checks.

So there it is. Thailand still is one the best countries for this hobby I think. Have fun, enjoy and treat the WG's you meet with respect please.

Dutch44

[QUOTE=Dutch44; 1542275]I would say 10% to 20% of the girls are lady-boys. Hard to see sometimes whether they are a real woman / girl or not. Some of the prettiest girls you will see, are lady boys. Many of the (real) girls, are rather average, I think there is more quality to be found in Bangkok. Yet, if you look long enough, you will find someone.

On beach road you will find plenty street walkers. For them there is no bar fine ofc. Again, many ladyboys. I would say 20-30.

My assessment: the go-go girls are the best. They are also the ones who ask most for their services, but as in most cases, you get what you pay for. 2700 baht for 2 hours of good service (60 Euro, or 90 USD) is not bad at all. Dutch44[/QUOTE]Dutch44,

Beside the fact that you have written your report as if it was meant for some kind of tourist site (LOL, no offence but here at the ISG a lot of the info you give is known for decades already) there are 2 things that I would like to comment on (only 2, I will be mild).

There are indeed quite a lot of ladyboys to be found on Beach Road but I would say the total percentage is less than 5. If it was 20-30% then this would mean that 2 or 3 out of every 10 working girls you see there would be a lady boy! This is certainly not the case. Also 10-20% for the whole of Pattaya is way too high.

I think the majority of the members and readers of this board totally disagree with you when you say that the go-go girls are the best. On the contrary, they are the worst. I suggest you read a lot of the reports in this thread.

Well, D44 report is a bit didascalic, but can be useful to some. Exact percentage of ladyboys can just be guessed, however it's true that there are a lot.

Having visited some gogos recently I must agree that the best looking girls are to be found there. For many men, best looking girls is equivalent to best girls. Then service is another story but I think it would be prejudicial to say that gogo girls never give good service.

[QUOTE=Hiihii;1541647]Anyone notice the R4 cooktail girl who is trying her hand at being a provider of explicit sex. Not much interest in her. Not ugly by any means but not all that pretty either. Kind of sad to see such things.[/QUOTE]HiHarold, R4 is in BKK isn't? This is the Pattaya forum.

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1543462]Having visited some gogos recently I must agree that the best looking girls are to be found there. For many men, best looking girls is equivalent to best girls. Then service is another story but I think it would be prejudicial to say that gogo girls never give good service.[/QUOTE]I do agree with you, the best looking girls does not assuring to have the best service at all. For me I got the goodies, after repeating investment for the same gogo girl to make me satisfied as well.

Has Harold returned with another new name? Hiihii

i posted most of this on a local forum. hope there isn't some etiquette about repeating here.

as suggested, i upgraded from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s to bliss. i decided that it was moto-taxi time, as i was pretty much at the very end of my non-heat exhaustion range when i reached [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. i naturally found a driver who knew nothing of bliss lounge, so i invoked my awesome mastery of the thai language (i can count to a hundred, say hello, thank-you, and excuse me. and that is about it) and we had a lively discussion about something or other, but eventually i managed to blurt out 'sai sam' and 'soi ysip sam', or something like that, and off we went. i pounded the tiny helmet onto my head extra hard, somewhat disturbed by the fact that not one – i've had that before – but both of the old guy's eyes were very cloudy. probably why he's still riding at that age: has no idea how close to death he comes on virtually every fare.

eventually i was deposited across the street from bliss and spent most of the afternoon in the broiling sun trying to cross the damned thing. i now feel terrible guilt for abusing the little guy in frogger long ago. if that made no sense to you, you have a lot more quarters (or whatever) in your pockets than i do.

i did the luck of the draw thing again and again got a chubby. actually a good thing in a way, but i'm really grasping at straws here, whatever that means: [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s was an equally full-figured young lady, so a variable has been removed from the comparison.

i could tell bliss was a class place because the lobby was missing the stench of fetid [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url]. that may be why the extra hundred baht: the shipping fee to deliver their [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s.

we ascended to perhaps the second floor, then went through a series of doors that somehow made me think of the start of get smart years ago. the room was certainly nicer, a recliner-type seat (not sure if it actually reclined) instead of the sofa, and a bed, presumably for the next class up of service. i tried to get a second towel for my back so that my fellow mongers were not mopping up my sweat with their shirts or backs, but that was apparently well outside the budget, so she unfolded the one on the seat cushion and held it in place as i sat down. problem solved.

what followed was a truly remarkable blow job. there was the blow job foreplay – licking, nibbling, finding the peanut butter, finding the dog, etc. oh, wait those last two don't apply here – followed by the main course. this girl, whose name i did not understand (sorry) , bobbed for almost thirty minutes straight. maybe a dozen hand strokes in there, but otherwise when she needed a break she just went with the soft, sensuous strokes instead of the jaw-punishing power technique. awesome!

i really need to figure out why it consistently takes me so long. i shouldn't be complaining – i get my money's worth – but a deep feeling of guilt starts kicking in after twenty minutes or so, which really interferes with the various fantasies i'm conjuring up to hurry matters, fantasies mostly involving other humans, possibly in a south american prison.

at any rate, when the main event eventually, uh. came, it was apparently in keeping with the time involved in producing it, but she hung in there as it unfolded. and unfolded. there was a lot of spitting and tissues afterward.

then the only real downer: while i admire all her dedication and her work ethic, i have to say this was the first girl i've had who seemed to genuinely resent the length of the battle. no, i don't think others were tickled to spend half an hour bobbing on an increasingly sweaty falang's manhood, but afterward they put the best face on it – the one where the mouth smiles. this one was pretty dour, even after a fairly generous tip. left sort of a bad taste in my mouth, which admittedly is pretty much what i did to hers, though not in quite as literal a sense.

In Manila and going to Pattaya. Any recommendations on airfare? I thought I read a while back of direct flight but all I can find is to BKK. Any other options?

[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1545161]In Manila and going to Pattaya. Any recommendations on airfare? I thought I read a while back of direct flight but all I can find is to BKK. Any other options?[/QUOTE]The closet airport to Pattaya is Utapao (UTP) [url]http://www.utapao.com/#fragment-13[/url]. I think there are charter flights from Russia that go there but I'm pretty sure there are no scheduled flights from Manila. You will have to go to Bangkok.

FN,

Pattaya is just 90 min by road from BKK.

Takes longer to town from airport in many other cities!

And worth every cent to a mongering paradise!

Relax and enjoy!

NM

[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1545161]In Manila and going to Pattaya. Any recommendations on airfare? I thought I read a while back of direct flight but all I can find is to BKK. Any other options?[/QUOTE]

CC,

By foreigner, if you mean European, then don't waste your time and money, I have wasted enough, mostly in vain. The available ones are the rejects from say, east Europe, etc.

Over my 14 trips to Pattaya, I have realised that Thai ladies are much more feminine, caring, flexible and good in bed. Less attitude too!

In Pattaya, you don't have to call up sex- sex finds you, just go through the earlier reports of seniors.

Now, if you want an agency as such, try "Devils Den". Google for more details.

Scour the many bars and soapies. You will soon have a guest in your bed.

Happy mongering!

NM

[QUOTE=CarelessChap; 1542263]Dear all,

Would like to know the best way (website / agency / area) to call up a Foreigner Massuesse to Hotel Room and get good massage & FS both?

Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]

I continue to be a real fan of soi 6, as it's empowering to have a good afternoon there and then be able to go eat or do whatever with friends, maybe go see the go-gos and not think you have to take anyone. Hunting the beer bars is surprisingly hard and frustrating work at times, and in high season you can't expect to show up at 10 or 11 and get something good. Go-go pricing, meanwhile, is getting to be more like Bangkok, and this coyote bit doesn't seem to be done at all for the benefit of the customers (more like just trying to outsource the recruitment headaches).

I crowdsourced some of the soi 6 girls based on recommendations from posts from people who are addicts. Bee at Lisa 2 was past her prime on appearance but must have invested time in Kegels or whatever, as she could do the contraction thing that made the difference with the happy ending. Also a homespun sort of personality. Tried to get Nam at Full Moon, but it was the wrong time of her month, and after some sales pitching I took (Full Moon's) Bee. This Bee looked enough like a possible ladyboy to have to assure people she wasn't. But she'd do 3 holes and that clinched the deal. The thing about that is that when you've got 3 as a possibility, many if not most girls will try harder to do it in 2, so either they're successful or, in my case, you might need the third. And the third made the difference, even though Bee was very athletic with the first two, especially when on top.

BTW, pricing in most places has gone up to B1000 + the loom (300-350) , vs. 700+300/350 before.

Then. 2 days before heading back, I finally connected with the legendary Chompoo at My Friend You. She was never the first girl someone would pick if going by looks and not knowing better, but she has by far the most positive (usually rave) reviews of any girl on the soi for performance. She's the only girl who has ever consistently been able to get the whole job done orally for me, and it's all a sensation that's an experience in itself. She's also flawless on the fine points of service (stuff like handing you a drink or putting on your shoes that most girls don't bother with anymore). For the B1000 I got service even above what I'd been getting for B700-ish, with the oral interrupted by two long rims so I had time to recharge on the route to the grand finale CIM. She also does a post-finale lick / massage routine I hadn't seen before, as well as filling out time before or after with a massage and never seeming rushed. She's always been focused on customer satisfaction but has gotten even more so (asking about it now) , as she knows that repeat customers and word of mouth are key to keeping the career going if you don't often get picked on the basis of looks alone. Can't recommend Chompoo enough. She'll do 3 holes or 3-somes, it's reported, but the exceptional oral skills are the thing for me.

If someone's had an unusually long career on soi 6 or looks below average and / or older than average, there's often a good performance reason for it.

Also tried the first street girl for me in ages around soi 9 for B600 and it worked out well. I have low sensitivity and will try to overcome that somewhat with polyisoprene condoms (or whatever the latest thing is there, though the old polyurethane ones were notorious for breaking!). But often the make-or-break thing is whether the girl is orgasmic. So a girl in a low-cost venue, like Beach Road at B500-700 or the Biergarten in Bangkok for 1000, who's orgasmic can be a valuable asset. With that and a good roster in a place like soi 6 you can be pickier with other venues or more selective about the more-expensive take-outs (as I'm no longer in my 20s or 30s and am proud if I can successfully complete more than one covered session in day).

am hearing the police are pulling over tourists on mc / motorbikes and confirep001ing them if the tourists does not have a thai license. they are running some scam with the bike renters who say it's ok to rent with a home country or international dl. what's the word from the man in the street?

Patts is celebrating the annual Music Festival so Beach Road is completley covered with street vendors selling hats and pineapples. Messes with my plan to grab a few from the Coconut Bar. Oh well.

Just left Culture Club Massage, always my first stop within three hours or reaching Pattaya. Been doing this three or four times / year for four years, always get the "everything" treatment for THB 300 for the one-hour massage plus 500 or so for the "everything" from the girl. Girls are not stunners, but always pretty and pleasant and good service. As I entered the shop a few hours ago there were only two girls, one young, tall, slim beauty and the second appeared to be a lady girl. The young pretty one, Mya took me back to the back room, good thing because if lady boy had come to the room I was leaving! Mya said she is 20 years old and I see no reason to doubt her (wears braces on her teeth). Really pretty, nice round ass, long legs. I feared she was too young and pretty to offer any specials to an old fart like me, but within 10 minutes she was asking if I wanted boom boom. Jackpot! I was prepared to go above my normal THB 500 for this so I asked her price, she said 1, 300. For some reason this hit me wrong, made me a bit angry, I lost my hard-on and decided I would just get up and leave. But we negotiated a hand job for 300 (started at 500) and off she went. She did a great job, and that cute, young pouty bottom lip and long legs helped get me off in about five minutes, and I'm usually good for 20 or 30.

As I was leaving I thought, you idiot. She is in the top 5 most beautiful girls of the 150 you've had and U-turned her down for USD 45? God I'm stupid.

I should add to my report that Culture Club massage is on Soi 11 on Second Street, just behind the Hilton Beach Road. God I'm still stupid.

Can you guys stop qualifying your reports by saying " the girl wasn't the best in looks or something similiar" It ruins the fantasy of thinking guys getting pretty girls for 500 bahts. LOL.

[QUOTE=BushWhack;1545783]As I was leaving I thought, you idiot. She is in the top 5 most beautiful girls of the 150 you've had and U-turned her down for USD 45? God I'm stupid.[/QUOTE]The first instinct was probably an overreaction, but it's important not to ruin the market, so in that sense you helped the rest of us. Better play likely would have been to try to knock down the 1300 some. In some MPs, like Nataree in Bangkok, they tend to stagger the pricing FOR you, with newer (e. G. First 2 weeks or less) or prettier ones quoted higher. OTOH I can't always tell visually between a newer one and someone who's worked awhile but still is in early 20's.

Others may play it differently, but with soapy MPs I always insist on a girl who'll do the raft routine. That used to be something you could just assume, but in some cases nowadays it narrows the field considerably, even though it has negligible effect on price. MPs are a good example of where average to slightly above average lookers can compensate a lot with good skills.

[QUOTE=Hiihii;1545789]Can you guys stop qualifying your reports by saying " the girl wasn't the best in looks or something similiar" It ruins the fantasy of thinking guys getting pretty girls for 500 bahts. LOL.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I go to Thailand every year. Getting pretty girls for 500 Baut is not unheard of. I have had many beautiful girls for 500. I did notice in the past two years more girls want 700 baut. Now this will not be popular to say and please save the flaming. It also depends on how you look. Your age, shape cleanliness. If you are in your 20's or 30's and good looking you can get a better deal. If you are in your 40's and decent looking but charming there is still room to negotiate. After 50, 60s ect the girls want 1000 baut or more.

I will add the best deals is when Thailand is busy in the high season. The most expensive is when Thailand is in the slow season. When business is slow thai mind is to raise the price.

[QUOTE=BushWhack;1545785]I should add to my report that Culture Club massage is on Soi 11 on Second Street, just behind the Hilton Beach Road. God I'm still stupid.[/QUOTE]Well, Soi 11 isn't really behind the Hilton. The tumruat (cops) are soi 9 and beach road. 1 way between beach and 2nd. And that is about 150m from soi 9 to Central Festival *where the Hilton is. Soi 11 would be "Honey Inn" going from 2nd to Buakhao. Minor detail, tho.

After swinging and missing a few days ago in Singapore and last night in Pattaya, this morning (8. 9:00) I was walking Beach Road near Mike's Shopping Center and found several girls hanging around, actually across the street from the Beach since the Beach side of the road is completely consumed by small tents for the Music Festival. I walked by several girls all dressed for business, saw four (out of about 10) who looked good, a few maybe too polished (my thoughts; either lady boy's who seem to be all over BR in the morning) or too professional to give good service). I spotted a very short, dark-skinned Thai with a great smile just outside Starbucks. Pom, wanted 1, 000 short time. I offered one million, and after a few good laughs and some negotiation she accepted 500. We had a great time, BBBJ, condom-on for the main event, and afterward she lay in my arms and we watched TV, I think she was enjoyinig the rest and air conditioning. And I'm sure she was waiting for me to rally for a second shot, but more and more seems I'm content with one long round rather than the two shots with which I used to be obsessed. So I offered her my shower, she accepted and I gave her THB 700. I love Pattaya!

[quote=bushwhack; 1545783]mya said she is 20 years old and i see no reason to doubt her (wears braces on her teeth).

as i was leaving i thought, you idiot. she is in the top 5 most beautiful girls of the 150 you've had and u-turned her down for usd 45? god i'm stupid.[/quote]some of the ladies wear faux braces to play the little girl [i][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] [/i]and motivate their customers. works for me.

if you really think you missed an opportunity go back and repeat with her. i have found that repeat visits pay dividends, as the ladies are complimented and there is already familiarity established.

sunlover

Hello everyone. It's been a while since I visited Thailand so I am thinking to do a couple of months over there. I am looking for the answers to a few questions.

What are the going rates these days for girls. Overnight, short time, the whole week etc.

Are there still white girl clubs over there.

Any ideas on a good company to rent a condo close to the walking street from. Noting that I may be renting for a couple of months.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=CheekyDancer;1546225]Any ideas on a good company to rent a condo close to the walking street from. Noting that I may be renting for a couple of months.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.dancewatchers.com/[/url]

Khun Tik and her crew are nonpareil. If you want to be close to "the walking street," check out her listings for View Talay 6.

[quote=naked gunz;1545779]am hearing the police are pulling over tourists on mc / motorbikes and confirep001ing them if the tourists does not have a thai license. they are running some scam with the bike renters who say it's ok to rent with a home country or international dl. what's the word from the man in the street?[/quote]during my feb14 stay in pattaya i did notice this first hand. farangs were being stopped way too often which i didn't see on previous 2 occasions so there is definately some truth in what you have heard.

[QUOTE=CheekyDancer; 1546225]Hello everyone. It's been a while since I visited Thailand so I am thinking to do a couple of months over there. I am looking for the answers to a few questions.

What are the going rates these days for girls. Overnight, short time, the whole week etc.

Are there still white girl clubs over there.

Any ideas on a good company to rent a condo close to the walking street from. Noting that I may be renting for a couple of months.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]To Cheeky.

You should know better if you been to Pattaya or you just a Lurker ask dumb ass question, it all depend where you get the girl price level is different bt Quality of the girl and how much you can afford.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=TomSf; 1545995]Hiihi,

I go to Thailand every year. Getting pretty girls for 500 Baut is not unheard of. I have had many beautiful girls for 500. I did notice in the past two years more girls want 700 baut. Now this will not be popular to say and please save the flaming. It also depends on how you look. Your age, shape cleanliness. If you are in your 20's or 30's and good looking you can get a better deal. If you are in your 40's and decent looking but charming there is still room to negotiate. After 50, 60s ect the girls want 1000 baut or more.

I will add the best deals is when Thailand is busy in the high season. The most expensive is when Thailand is in the slow season. When business is slow thai mind is to raise the price.[/QUOTE]I must be very hansum and charming because I get nice looking ladies for 1000. 1200 baht for LT and I am pushing 60. Also decent lookers for 500. 700 for ST, which I rarely do. I told one she could come to my room every night for awhile if she wanted. She would show up at about 8:00 pm and leave after we finished the morning session. One lady was 25, one was 27 and one was 30. These were my regulars and each one was good looking.

I have not found low season to be more expensive. I found it to be about the same for ladies, but cheaper for hotels. However, the best deals are when the lady is in more need of money. This is sometimes due to lack of customers and rent is due. They do have to eat, pay rent and in many cases send money home to support kids / parents. Seems to happen more in low season than high in my experience.

The "Bibs" are very busy right now in Pattaya. They are trying to recover income from ticket revenue they lost when many of them were called up to Bangkok to help monitor the large demonstrations. Also, keep in mind Songkran is coming up in April. I've been coming to Thailand since 1994, and I have been in Pattaya since late October. The combination of the Thai ladies asking for 2, 500 Baht for short-time, and the effort I have to put forth to avoid the traffic stop fleecing, makes Cambodia look better with each passing day I don't pay 2, 500 Baht for short time. I seem to get more realistic prices from the freelancers who work the beer bars. Not too many stunners, but much easier on the wallet. It was paradise for so many years, that I really can't whine too much. Like the Buddha says, nothing is permanent.

[quote=naked gunz;1545779]am hearing the police are pulling over tourists on mc / motorbikes and confirep001ing them if the tourists does not have a thai license. they are running some scam with the bike renters who say it's ok to rent with a home country or international dl. what's the word from the man in the street?[/quote]that they simply found this so far unexploited reason to fine who does not carry an idl. they are being helped by clown foreign tourist police that pre-set the ticket and send the person to the office where the lazy pig real police finishes filling the form and collects 400 bts. no confirep001ion.

Going down on lady rather many ladies is occupying my mind for most of the time now. Is it safe & advisable to lick a cameltoe or rim a lady in regular soapies. Face-sitting & making women reach climax with my mouth really completes my session instead. People who are heavily into oral thing can they please share their after-oral experiences in Thailand. Are the girls really STD free & what are the odds of getting STI's, mind it I'm talking about the girls at soapies & beer bars only & avoiding freelancers at every cost. Thanks

[QUOTE=Andy7;1547937]Going down on lady rather many ladies is occupying my mind for most of the time now. Is it safe & advisable to lick a cameltoe or rim a lady in regular soapies. Face-sitting & making women reach climax with my mouth really completes my session instead. People who are heavily into oral thing can they please share their after-oral experiences in Thailand. Are the girls really STD free & what are the odds of getting STI's, mind it I'm talking about the girls at soapies & beer bars only & avoiding freelancers at every cost. Thanks[/QUOTE]Posting likes this leave me doubtful about the intelligence of the author. For one, it's impossible to say what are "the odds of getting STD". Even if it was possible to say, that would not mean one would not get and STD anyway. Furthermore is know that any discussion about STD transmissibility ends in disagreement if not violent flaming and insulting, so why stir shit when the turds have just recently settled.

So Andy, if you like to lick pussy, go ahead and lick it, but do not look for babysitting your choices here. BTW, there is also a dedicated forum about STDs here.

[QUOTE=El Flaco; 1547941]Posting likes this leave me doubtful about the intelligence of the author. For one, it's impossible to say what are "the odds of getting STD". Even if it was possible to say, that would not mean one would not get and STD anyway. Furthermore is know that any discussion about STD transmissibility ends in disagreement if not violent flaming and insulting, so why stir shit when the turds have just recently settled.

So Andy, if you like to lick pussy, go ahead and lick it, but do not look for babysitting your choices here. BTW, there is also a dedicated forum about STDs here.[/QUOTE]Those were somewhat strong words but anyways thanks for the reply. I was just looking in what ratio positive & negative feedbacks just pass by so as to get the little idea. Moreover I'm not expecting some kind of in-depth research on this topic. Why this thread is always on fire.

[QUOTE=Andy7;1547937]Is it safe & advisable to lick a cameltoe or rim a lady in regular soapies. Face-sitting & making women reach climax with my mouth really completes my session instead. People who are heavily into oral thing can they please share their after-oral experiences in Thailand. Are the girls really STD free & what are the odds of getting STI's, mind it I'm talking about the girls at soapies & beer bars only & avoiding freelancers at every cost. Thanks[/QUOTE]The venue doesn't matter. People who practice unsafe sex with an excuse that some venues are substantially safer than others are simply delusional. That said, we all take risks.

I share your passion for giving oral, but have learned to refrain over the years. In my personal experience, going down on a working girl is almost certain to result in a mild (1-day) to severe (3-week) sore throat. Just my personal experience, perhaps there are other folks with iron throats out there -- sadly, not me. It doesn't help that when I do monger, I tend to take 2-4 girls in a day. So if you're taking just one, perhaps the risk is somewhat lower.

Protip: expelling lots of saliva, trying not to ingest any fluids, and using Listerine right after might help somewhat. And of course, use your nose. If it smells even slightly bad, giving oral is out. In the end, if you're a tourist and doing this once in a long time, the experience may well be worth a sore throat. I don't think AIDS risk is particularly high.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1547951]The venue doesn't matter. People who practice unsafe sex with an excuse that some venues are substantially safer than others are simply delusional. That said, we all take risks.

I share your passion for giving oral, but have learned to refrain over the years. In my personal experience, going down on a working girl is almost certain to result in a mild (1-day) to severe (3-week) sore throat. Just my personal experience, perhaps there are other folks with iron throats out there. Sadly, not me. It doesn't help that when I do monger, I tend to take 2-4 girls in a day. So if you're taking just one, perhaps the risk is somewhat lower.

Protip: expelling lots of saliva, trying not to ingest any fluids, and using Listerine right after might help somewhat. And of course, use your nose. If it smells even slightly bad, giving oral is out. In the end, if you're a tourist and doing this once in a long time, the experience may well be worth a sore throat. I don't think AIDS risk is particularly high.[/QUOTE]Great, simply what's there on other people's mind & their thoughts on any given quest is definitely somewhat helpful in taking a decision or making a strategy.

In this case, for eg, Protip is really appreciated. Right said, taking risk occasionally reduces your risk too but cannot eliminate it. I was just curious to know what could be the prevalence rate for STI's like gonorrhea & herpes in such places & that's what made me ask this question. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[QUOTE=Andy7;1547937]Going down on lady rather many ladies is occupying my mind for most of the time now. Is it safe & advisable to lick a cameltoe or rim a lady in regular soapies. Face-sitting & making women reach climax with my mouth really completes my session instead. People who are heavily into oral thing can they please share their after-oral experiences in Thailand. Are the girls really STD free & what are the odds of getting STI's, mind it I'm talking about the girls at soapies & beer bars only & avoiding freelancers at every cost. Thanks[/QUOTE]Here is an article that is worthwhile reading.

[url]http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/4-things-you-didnt-know-about-oral-sex[/url]

Much information on this topic on the internet. Clubs that cater to swingers often provide roles of plastic wrap that can be used as protective barriers while performing cunnilingus on a woman. Never tried it. Seems much worse than using a condom during intercourse, which I do use but really dislike.

I recently returned from about a 70 day trip. After reading some discussion here, I thought I would post this.

I had a lady who I thought might be a potential temporary longterm Mrs H2, so her and I went together to get some tests. All were negative. However I used the antibody test for HIV and not the RNA test. It didn't take long and I decided that she wasn't Mrs H2 material. If anyone is concerned about their lady's health, then why not consider getting her tested. Yes I know if it is a ST affair it is a hassle. Of course the tests aren't perfect due to time frames from exposure to testing, but I you are concerned...

In December I posted about a test lab which is more toward the north end of Pattaya. However there is a lab on the south end. The name of the lab is Lifecare Laboratory Pattaya. I have known about this lab for some time but never been there until this trip.

They appear to have the same tests as the other lab, but some of their tests are cheaper. I have been tested by the HIV DNA method in the past, but that test is not on the CDC web site. However the RNA test is. The CDC says that the test is good after about 10 days from potential exposure. The lab would probably tell you 2 weeks. The test cost 2500 baht from the south lab and 3000 baht from the lab on the north end. This lab is the same as the other lab when it comes to the info they want from you. They ask for your name and age. No verification documents needed.

This lab was more inconvenient for me to get to but I wanted to check it out and did go there prior to leaving Thailand and got the RNA test. I did save 500 baht for my inconvenience. These tests are not done on site, so the results can take 3 to 5 days. When I got my results back (negative) I noticed the test was done at Bangkok Hospital Pattaya. If you get that test make sure you get the RNA HIV positive / negative test and not the RNA viral load test.

If you use google you can translate the site. Search for Lifecare Laboratory Pattaya. They have directions and map on their site. If you are interested in finding the lab and have problems with that, let me know and I will get a link or directions.

arrived late afternoon weary from a day of travel and almost three weeks of non-stop drinking and mongering. i'm at the stay hotel on soi 10. nice place, less than 2 years old so not run down yet. as is usually the case there are always issues in hotels in this part of the world. the wifi sucks if there are more than two people on the floor. i'm soo used to 50 megabit download speed in the states. here all i get is an unreliable 2. that seems to be the case across se asia. there is also a problem with the air conditioning. it's either on (polar ice cap) or off (sub saharan africa) hopefully they will work it out today.

all the talk of std's: against my better judgement i do bareback at times. let's be real. rubbers suck. i have never caught anything. maybe i've been lucky. i do try and wash and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] right after. a friend told me that and i don't know if there's any scientific evidence but i do it. dining at the y. i love it but i do not do it with working girls. i don't know when the last cock was in her and that thought just doesn't sit well with me. no homophobia but it just doesn't appeal to me. can you get something? i don't know. and to try to put a percentage on something like that is just silly. there are too many variables and i'm sure there has been no research just in that area. how would you get a control group? it's an impossible proposition given you would need to work with hookers and johns, probably not the most reliable of subjects. anyway.

an interesting side note on leaving saigon. (i will post on that in the appropriate forum.) i'm in the saigon airport and lo and behold who do i see? the girl i was with a few nights ago. hmmm. and not only that she has about six other girls with her bound for bkk. i smile and give her a wink and try to make conversation but they are rather shocked at seeing me and other than some lite chat are not very talkative. i wonder what the story is there? shopping in bkk? working in bkk? i mean the bar doesn't have that many girls to begin with and 3/4 of the staff leaving for bkk is odd to say the least. would love to hear some thoughts on this.

back to pattaya.

i check in, get some food, figure out where to get a bottle of jameson, try to find an network cord for a mac or at least an adaptor from mini to regular. tried about 10 places in century: njet! lot's of russians but around town and on beach road they seemed well behaved. there is a big festival on beach road so i figure the hunting was going to be hard. well i finally get to a break in the stands and there are quite a few girls hanging about. a lot of expats sitting around drinking beer and chatting up the girls. party with hookers. got to love it! i will say i can understand guys pulling 1000 lt or even 500. there are some down right hags that i wouldn't take home for a drink. i know beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but jeez. i'm not all about sticking my cock into anything warm. i need attraction otherwise it doesn't work for me.

i look around and spot a cutie and motion her over away from her friends. chat with her for a bit and she was quoting 1000 st and 2000 lt. now i like watching my money but at some point it devalues the experience in more way than just the wallet. i'm tired and take her short time for the asking price. i mean it's a drop in the bucket compared to the states (i don't want to hear that i'm going to ruin it for everyone. i don't live for everyone.) i pay 10x that in the states for comparable quality. and for me the experience is always better if you don't beat the girl to slavedom. everyone's different. everyone complains about the mechanical nature of some of these girls. well yeah! if you pay her peanuts what do you expect? i agree to her price and she's got her hands all over me in the walk back to my hotel. very affectionate and happy. let's not forget we are dealing with women mentality here. on the way back we pick up some snacks and drinks. she's warming up even more. very conservative in what she get's, not feeding the family, and very helpful in making sure i have what i want. helping me navigate the language. even counted my money for me to make sure i wasn't getting cheated.

some snacks and chit chat and we're in the shower. she literally gave me a shower, a little foreplay and we're in bed. very nice body. little bit of an ass which i like. had a baby but other than a little bit of a stomach (which i like) she's in great shape. we have a great time and are laying there and she asks if i want her to stay the night. i ask how much and she says 1500. i agree and we sleep for a while. she gets up at 6 this morning and showers, comes back to bed and gives me another great lay. we chit caht a little more and i tell her that she can go whenever she likes. she hangs out for a little longer and leaves with a big hug and kiss.

great experience. total gfe. got her number and will probably see her again.

now back to fining an adaptor for my mac and some jameson.

the festival seems to have corralled the girls into a few open spaces on the beach. not sure if this is a good or bad thing yet. i don't think the guys hanging around drinking with the girls helps. come on guys, don't cock block.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1548050]Here is an article that is worthwhile reading.

[url]http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/4-things-you-didnt-know-about-oral-sex[/url]

Much information on this topic on the internet. Clubs that cater to swingers often provide roles of plastic wrap that can be used as protective barriers while performing cunnilingus on a woman. Never tried it. Seems much worse than using a condom during intercourse, which I do use but really dislike.[/QUOTE]As much as I like it I don't go down on working girls. I have long ago and reconsidered after doing some research. A lot of guys downplay the risks associated with out hobby and they might be the lucky ones but the reality of the situation is that it's risky. You cannot argue the facts. I have a bud in thePhilippines and he's had a few STDs, curable ones but still. HIV and Herpes scare me. Throat cancer scares me.

[QUOTE=Andy7;1547945]Those were somewhat strong words but anyways thanks for the reply. I was just looking in what ratio positive & negative feedbacks just pass by so as to get the little idea. Moreover I'm not expecting some kind of in-depth research on this topic. Why this thread is always on fire.[/QUOTE]Sorry I did not wanted to insult. You see the discussion going on now. It will reach no consensus and will have no influence on your action when faced to attractive vagina. That is my simple point.

[QUOTE=Hobbyist2;1548052]They appear to have the same tests as the other lab, but some of their tests are cheaper. I have been tested by the HIV DNA method in the past, but that test is not on the CDC web site. However the RNA test is. The CDC says that the test is good after about 10 days from potential exposure. The lab would probably tell you 2 weeks. The test cost 2500 baht from the south lab and 3000 baht from the lab on the north end. This lab is the same as the other lab when it comes to the info they want from you. They ask for your name and age. No verification documents needed.[/QUOTE]HIV test is Bt 400 at Pattaya Hospital on soi Bukkao. I don't know which method they use. Passport required.

[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1548060]Now back to fining an adaptor for my mac and some Jameson.[/QUOTE]Tucom IT center, South pattaya rd. between 2nd and 3rd.
Quality liquor, bring it from oversea unless money is of no value to you.

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1548304]HIV test is Bt 400 at Pattaya Hospital on soi Bukkao. I don't know which method they use. Passport required.[/QUOTE]Antibody method.

[QUOTE=El Flaco; 1548305]Tucom IT center, South Pattaya Road. Between 2nd and 3rd.

Quality liquor, bring it from oversea unless money is of no value to you.[/QUOTE]Found both. As you suggested. And yes the Jameson was a little pricy. I will bring a bottle next time. I like to have a drink when I get back to the hotel with a girl. On the pack list next time will be a long network cable to help with the spotty hotel wifi. I'm spoiled at home.

Met up with a forum member. Reiner Otto. Nice guy. Walked from Soi 10 to Walking street. The festival is still going on and the only FLs I saw was across from Mikes Mall. Maybe 10. Nothing worth even considering. I wonder where they all went?

We started at Iron, good selection but there was some big celebration and it was packed to the gills. Next was Sensations and there were some stunners there but didn't really feel it for any of them. Then to Bacarra. It was a little thin but there were some good lookers. We ended up at a disco a few 100 feet from the start of walking street. There were plenty of FLs but the ones I was interested in were not interested in me. Oh well. I went back to Iron leaving Reiner to his hunting. Struck up a conversation with a girl that caught my eye on the first go round.

I broke two of my rules. 1. Never take a girl that has tats. Usually indicates that she's been at it a while. I like them innocent and new. 2. Only take girls with good teeth. Bad teeth are a turn off. They were quoting 1500BF and 4000 for the girl. I had a shocked look on my face. That WTF look and they immediately dropped the price to 1000 and 3000. Ended up taking her for the night. Although she was all gung ho and open to anything at the bar she was very hesitant on the return to the hotel. Very little kissing, BJ uncovered but uninspired. Sex was good in that she had a dynamite body and was tight. It was an OK experience. Not bad but not stellar. There is no accident that most clubs have red lights, and it has nothing to do with denoting a working girl house. It's very complimentary on looks and skin. They all look good in red light. Got to pay closer attention.

Plenty of girls on waking street. Quoting crazy prices. Usually means they are not interested. Ohh well.

The festival ends tomorrow so I still have a few days left to play on Beach Road. Where did they go?

a delayed (about two weeks) wrap-up. i slipped out of town the morning after my bliss experience, making sure that i got past bliss before they opened for fear that the bitchy blower would heave a semen-soaked tissue at me. i typed this up as i rode to the airport and killed time in the lounge there. then i forgot about is as i was immersing myself in the culture in angeles city, or at least immersing part of myself in the residents there. so here goes:

since typing keeps me from observing the horror surrounding me as the driver defies various laws of the road and, in many cases, physics, i figured i'd get a start on this. maybe a finish, too – not a hell of a lot to report, just a bunch of odds and ends. and there were some very nice ends.

only had four days, so i figured some pattern of bj-bj-devil's den? where? could be a bar girl, another bj, my hand, or whatever. as mentioned in my bj reports, i'm lucky to get off once in a session, so multiple sessions would be sort of a bad investment. not that i wasn't tempted.

the two bj's were covered in perhaps too much detail in the earlier reports. the dd experience was par for my course: some serious preliminary licking and sucking, then on to the main course, a main course that was tragically abbreviated when one of the main participants, the one attached to me, seizing the spirit of the various worldwide protest movements, rebelled against the oppressive pressure of the regime, here defined as 'the condom', and trouble ensued. on the brighter side, i did not get invaded by the russians, who certainly had the manpower in the region for such an operation (presumably they would arrive in camouflaged tank tops) , but the protestor went down like its chinese brethren in tiananmen square. i really, really don't like condoms, even the caucasian sized ones.

so it was back to the old standby, and my now content protestor got tag-teamed by the two lovelies, once tending to it as the other tried various means – fanning, cold beverage, towel – to keep me from overheating and drowning all of us. she wasn't terribly successful, largely because it is hard to tend to someone when you are on your hands and knees facing away from him. this was not the best of situations, but pretty much unavoidable as i generally had a finger or two in her ass. but i do give them an 'a' for effort, and for giving me their a's.

i believe we just drove under a truck. i'm happy to note that the driver, who was dozing when i got into the car, is now wide awake and muttering at other drivers in a very un-buddhist manner the pills must be kicking in.

but back to anal explorations. though these certainly played well into the south american prison concept, there was still serious effort to be made. as often has happened in the past, i joined in the fray with my free and un-stinky hand. something about a grip stronger than a german shepherd's tends to help. in this case it almost gave a girl tending to my scrotum a black eye and got my nuts bitten off. got to watch that grip thing if a lot of oil is applied. that is no way to die – where's a laplander when you need one? (obscure movie reference)

finally, just under the time limit, there was a massive eruption and we were off to the shower for some serious cleanup work. then down to pay the bill and stagger home. this brings up a conundrum that occurred to me in, i believe it was, bliss. that such thoughts should occupy my mind in such erotic moments may explain the duration of those moments. bj bars, the dd, eden, mango. just about anywhere i've had sex away from my hotel rooms in thailand involved a grueling hike up to about the fiftieth floor to reach the happy room. this means that i'm pretty well on my way to the sweat swimming pool before the fun even starts, but more critically, i have to descend from the heights, usually on a staircase that even on the way up seemed a little off by western standards, with legs just a little stiffer and more controllable than chocolate pudding. could they put these places in the basement? well, maybe not: then i would probably join a convivial cluster of mongers at the base of the stairs as we all tried to regain our strength for the ascent, most likely, in the case of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, with bliss' [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] lapping at our feet.

the driver is starting to make hissing noises. this can't be good.

the walking street scene was even more of a carnival than before. it is sort of like roaming the halls of the united nations, except the diplomats are a lot ruder, smellier, and attired in clothes bought at a trailer park yard sale. not sure what country is selling the glowing rats, but i bet that is somalia sitting there with her kid and a tin cup.

i only hit a few go-gos, but in most of them i became a repeat customer. lots of eye candy, though i rarely barfine. each visit, though, i wrestle with that possibility: on the one hand i generally have difficulties getting them to leave my room afterward, they are rarely mango-quality pros, they are overpriced, and i'm not really into the gfe at all, but on the other hand some are damned hot, which pretty much kicks all the other arguments' asses.

i had a candidate at baccara (sp?) , a cute little thing with possibly enhanced boobs. kind of a strange vibe. on the one hand she seemed sort of distant, like she would rather be anywhere else, including [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s basement (we've probably had enough of that bit, haven't we?) , but she would just slowly nurse her drink. v-e-are-why slowly: i never bought her more than one, and she would have to gulp down what was left when i left. maybe she just had the personality of a dishrag or something. or maybe i was just a safe port in the storm as she awaited someone with less round eyes and a presumably smaller dick (ha! not likely!). safe because i didn't do any serious groping (hence the 'possibly' enhanced boobs, though in an accidental collision they were determined to be delightfully pliant) , and the sex video i showed her did not show me copulating with a flying squirrel. on the other hand, the sex video was actually of flying squirrels, which could probably creep some people out when they stopped laughing.

turns out driver needed to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. better now.

meanwhile, at heaven's above, on the first night here i fell madly in lust with a dancer. alas, some other slimeball called her over before i had a chance, so i went back the next night. no sign of her. i can be determined when i want to be, so the third night i was back. still no luck. i paid my tab, then, as i got up to leave, there she was sitting in a booth on the way out! so i approached her, noticing a few tats that i had not seen the first night. oh, well, she was still hot, though i somehow remembered her as hotter. wait! this was not her, but another dancer who looked very similar! shit! but i was already there in her face, so i just gave her a tip, said she was hot, and split.

so, of course, i was back on my last night. still no luck. that slimeball had probably married her or something. but miss not her was looking pretty tempting (like the retro-cars. the mustang, camaro, etc, one's mind sees the original, or something close to it) (just to clarify, i have not had sex with a camaro) , so i asked her over. nice girl. maybe less english than i speak thai, so the conversation was limited. i wasn't planning on getting anything to go, anyway. early car to bkk this morning. so this wasn't a big deal. no sooner had the ld arrived than she was off to the stage. after her set she returned as the other half of the dancers climbed up for their shift. and guess who was in that second group. crap!

it gets more interesting, if your mind is as far down the gutter as mine. as we sort of talk some more, she points to the stage and, i'm pretty sure, specifically at the supreme object of my lust, and asks if i think she is pretty. i of course assure her that she herself is smokin' hot, but do grant her that so is the supreme object of my lust. she agrees and watches for a while. so many questions. does she realize how much they look alike, so just pointed her out assuming i was enjoying the eye candy for that reason? was she having roughly the same fantasies as i was, possibly without the latin america enhancement? would she care to join us? could that be her f*cking sister, which would make the last couple questions really, really hot?

i know when i get back one or both (and i'm betting on the supreme object of my lust. crap!) will be gone, so this will haunt me to my last days.

on the other hand, just down the street at spanky's i talked to a dancer from cambodia. reasonably hot. she, too, pointed out another cute girl on stage,"my seestah". of course it could be the bg version of sister: cousin, girl from same town, inability to pronounce 'syphilis', etc, but too bad i was so fixated on the supreme object of my lust. i know i could have arranged something there, though in both these cases it would have been disappointing. these aren't kinky pornstars: sister sex would probably involve screwing one at a time while the other watched tv and texted. probably her sister, who would probably respond. at least it would be in thai, so i couldn't read,"can you see if it is in yet?"

of course it could be worse: the female flying squirrel rarely stopped eating during her numerous, incredibly brief, tender moments with the obviously add-afflicted suitor, so i guess i'd still be ahead there, especially given the smell of some thai food.

okay, we made it to the airport. no line at all at philippines business class check in. only one couple ahead of me at premium security lane. couple was from uzbekistan. had child. may have been familiar with the wheel but not advanced concepts like indoor plumbing. no idea whatsoever about going through security. presumably on the way out of their country security was limited to a cursory check of the goat's carry-on. spent five minutes as these people were slowly, through trial and error, educated in the process. other belt 'air crew priority' was empty. tried to go through there, but skinny, worthless little potential ladyboy said no. line backs up behind me. eventually little prick tells them to go through his lane. me? i'm stuck behind mr. and mrs. clueless and clueless baby. what? we can't take him through the metal detector in his stroller? takes me thirty seconds to get through when they finally figure it out. easily beat them in the after-checkpoint recovery / redressing, even though i have lace up shoes and they are in the height of uzbekistan fashion, crocs. get to immigrations line ahead of them. clueless baby wanders into booth area and (a) manages to block the guy ahead of me as he tries to leave, and (be) literally bumps into me trying to get back to his suddenly aware and calling parents, completely oblivious to the idea of going around a large object instead of through it. then bumps into me again. and again. it's like my useless artificial intelligence 'team mates' in my old fps game who got into corners and just stood there, walking in place, except i'm pretty sure there would be issues if i shot this little f*cker as i did them. no way i'm paying for the three goats or a cow for compensation to the parents. this kid must do this a lot: he was actually wearing a helmet (what? the helmet has to come off for the security scan?) , a good thing as it was getting a serious pounding on my carry-on. go ahead, ask me how i really feel about this business!

(calms down.)

other bar notes: as usual, lots of eye candy at baccara, but with the usual caveat about koreans and japanese.

great old tunes at opening in heaven's above.

windmill had the usual pigs, but if you like licking pig privates in public, it is your place, plus a lesbian show perhaps even more uninspired than the putative sister acts from heaven's above or spanky's.

gentleman's club (or whatever the name of the place is you, or at least i accidentally go into when trying to go to spanky's) : average dancers.

showgirls (lk metro) : pretty nice daytime lineup. was tempted, but she fled into the back, not to reappear. 'oh, shit! it's the squirrel porn guy! '

had a weird language problem. before going out the first day i left a tip for the maid. okay, so far, so good. but i had done this before, though in the philippines, and it was still there when i returned. obviously she feared that i had just forgotten the money as i went out. or it was such a lousy tip that she left it as a message. probably the former.

so i had an idea: i would leave a note: "maid". great plan, except that, even if i wrote the english transliteration of it in thai,"maebaan" (with a lot of accents and stuff) , i'm sure it would be all greek to the maid. so i dug out my thai dictionary. the one with the three columns: english, thai transliteration, and squiggles. and went to work. after about five minutes i had a masterpiece of squiggly lines and tiny circles. i tucked it under the tip and left it on the desk.

when i returned the room had been cleaned and the tip and note were missing from the desk. good.

then i ran across the note on the kitchenette table / breakfast bar. it was not exactly the same note, though: more squiggles had been added below mine. oh, crap! what the hell does that mean? obviously, it could be "thank you!", but that is predicated on several things, like that i actually spelled "maid" right. what if i had transposed a squiggle and actually written,"please go buy me a young boy?". this is thailand. i could have gotten a knock on my door any minute as she herded up a selection to choose from. what if the second line of her response, one character that looked like our number seven, actually was the number seven, as in,"i'll be right back, my son is seven."?

but beyond that rather far-fetched scenario (she looked too young to have a seven year old) , i can think of some other major misunderstandings.

"i have taken the money you forgot and left it at the front desk."

"never leave your money on the desk: it is an insult. always leave it on the breakfast bar."

"double that and i'll bring my sister, too."

"do not leave a note implying that our beloved king is a maid!"

or it could have just been a rep001hing critique of my penmanship.

there was no way i was going to decode that, so i had to improvise. bar girls: they aren't just for carnal pleasure! yes, it was kapkoon ka.

okay, it's boarding time. i'm off to ac for three days to see if i can [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off a provider on blow row.

Ahah that made me laugh Oosik!

FN: Try Hong Thong with lemon Schweppes. Way sweet, but it's the only local spirit I can stand.

Thank you Oosik for the report! I love your style of writing. Brilliant!

Any girlfriendly hotel mid price? Mercure? Ibis?

Having had a good night out with Reiner Otto and booted my average girl in the morning I rested for the day. My plan was to hit Bacarra, Sensations, and Iron to do some more exploring and see if I could fix my picker. LAst nights pick was ok but not stellar.

So I did a day of R&R and got up at around 8. Assuming a shower, dinner, and the bars at 9:30. Should be plenty to choose from. After a decent dinner on Beach Road and being the lazy fuck that I am I hit the beach walk across the street from Mike's. Apparently it's called The Bridge. Ugh! There were plenty to pick from but quite frankly I wouldn't touch any of them. The girl from the first night was there but I like variety so I make an excuse and tell her I will be back. After about 30 minutes of hanging around and drinking my water I spot a girl that just arrived. Stunner! I walk up and give her the "hey what's up." She looks at me and says "you know I'm a lady boy." FUCK!"No honey I didn't but thank you and have a nice night." FUCK! Totally fooled. So I get out of dodge before anyone can see that I was talking to him / her. Embarrassed to say the least. Baht bus and I'm at walking street. Oh Oh! Lights are out on the first bar, the second bar, ALL THE BARS! Shit elections or something the tourist cop tells me. So I motor on back hoping that day one was still there. Nope she's gone. I text no answer. SHIT, I fucked this up.

Soapy? Don't know if they are open. So I grab a water and wait. After 30 minutes nothing and I'm getting a little depressed kicking myself in the ass for not going for the sure thing right off the bat. So with nothing to do I sit and wait. After about 30 minutes this stunner walks by but I can't make out if she's working or not. But she doesn't slow down or look at any guys hanging out so I figure she's a regular girl. Damn I should have gone with the sure thing. Well 10 minutes later she's back at the bridge. Not exactly at the bridge but a little ways down but she's leaning over ghe railing texting someone. So I run, knocking over old ladies and Russian tourists to get to her before anyone else does. I'm still not sure she's working as theres a huge celebration going on but what the heck The only thing that could happen is she breaks my heart with a "WTF do you think I am." Well as luck would have it she is working. Oh yeah. We make a deal for a couple of hours. I paid too much but there was no way I was going to let money get in may way with this little hottie.

Back to the hotel for a few hours of romping. What a fucking beautiful body. About 5'1" and perfectly proportioned. A little doll. What a piece! Turns out she's from BKK and heer to make some money. Has to go back in the morning, something about grandma. I coerce her into coming back tomorrow. She says she will take the bus that gets here at 7pm and will text me as soon as she's back. Will she? Who know, probably not but one can hope. She also agreed to stay all night. Let's hope she shows. She used to work a bar here but said she got sick of it because the mamasans would never give them a day off and she has no interest in dancing for 7 hours straight 7 days a week. I bet it's not easy. Maybe that's why so many of the bar girls seem disinterested.

I love the choices one has here.

[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1548697]She used to work a bar here but said she got sick of it because the mamasans would never give them a day off and she has no interest in dancing for 7 hours straight 7 days a week. I bet it's not easy. Maybe that's why so many of the bar girls seem disinterested.[/QUOTE]This is a good point. The girls working in the gogos and the MPs put in some long hours. Some MP girls work 11am until the last client or 4pm until the last client on alternating days seven days a week, and have to make a special request for a day off. Now they're not fucking nonstop everyday, though some will on some days, but they're at the venue everyday. I think you have identified the reason for the disinterested look on the gogo girls faces. A few MP girls have made it clear to me that after many hours of nonstop fucking they simply run out of energy. I know I've been with the same girl who will be a tigress on an afternoon in the middle of the week and almost a star fish on a Sunday night after getting fucked by a dozen or more guys since Friday night.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1548701]This is a good point. The girls working in the gogos and the MPs put in some long hours. Some MP girls work 11am until the last client or 4pm until the last client on alternating days seven days a week, and have to make a special request for a day off. Now they're not fucking nonstop everyday, though some will on some days, but they're at the venue everyday. I think you have identified the reason for the disinterested look on the gogo girls faces. A few MP girls have made it clear to me that after many hours of nonstop fucking they simply run out of energy. I know I've been with the same girl who will be a tigress on an afternoon in the middle of the week and almost a star fish on a Sunday night after getting fucked by a dozen or more guys since Friday night.[/QUOTE]Yep. The few I have hooked up with have told me similar stories. They work a lot. This is one reason I tend to choose the cute diamond in the rough when bar fining. On my last visit to one I chose the most homely girl to take back to my hotel. As so as we took a step to leave the entire bar erupted in cheers. She told me this was the 1st time she was ever bar fined.

A girl I bar fined in AC & she told me the last time she had sex was two weeks ago and before that it was a month. YMMV depending on who we choose and when we choose them.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1548701]This is a good point. The girls working in the gogos and the MPs put in some long hours. Some MP girls work 11am until the last client or 4pm until the last client on alternating days seven days a week, and have to make a special request for a day off. Now they're not fucking nonstop everyday, though some will on some days, but they're at the venue everyday. I think you have identified the reason for the disinterested look on the gogo girls faces. A few MP girls have made it clear to me that after many hours of nonstop fucking they simply run out of energy. I know I've been with the same girl who will be a tigress on an afternoon in the middle of the week and almost a star fish on a Sunday night after getting fucked by a dozen or more guys since Friday night.[/QUOTE]I sit at my desk for hours reading contracts and proposals and I'm out of my mind in a few hours. I can't imagine standing on a stage gyrating my hips for seven hours it's got to be brutal. It's not like they have a union or a NLRB to give them rights. Something that never dawned on me until talking to Noo Na last night. And as much fun as we had, I like to joke with the girls, lighten the mood. Always works to my advantage in getting good service. After we were done we tried exchanging phone numbers but I was out of load. She insisted on helping me buy more load. After we walked towards my hotel and you could see a change in demeanor when she kissed me and headed back to the beach. She was not happy at the thought of doing it again.

Putting myself into her psyche how could you be excited about it. Aside from the demeaning nature of the experience there's always the uncertainty of what the next guy will be like. Will he be a nice guy or some asshole. I'm getting old and soft.

Another reason that I don't try to beat the girls into being with me for peanuts. I think a lot of guys have this romantic theory that the girls get some sexual enjoyment out of sleeping with them. The reality is quite different. I've been at it for weeks now and even I'm just running through the mechanics. I should probably take a few days off but my sexual addiction tells me to motor on.

[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1548781]I can't imagine standing on a stage gyrating my hips for seven hours it's got to be brutal.

Another reason that I don't try to beat the girls into being with me for peanuts. I think a lot of guys have this romantic theory that the girls get some sexual enjoyment out of sleeping with them. The reality is quite different. I've been at it for weeks now and even I'm just running through the mechanics. I should probably take a few days off but my sexual addiction tells me to motor on.[/QUOTE]

Right and at least those contracts and proposals engage your mind. Those girls are just shuffling on stage naked or darn near that while a bunch of farangs gawk at them; and what do they have to look forward to? A bar fine?

I no longer go to the gogos that much, the loud music and my tinnitus are a bad mix, so I can't speak about them with authority; however, I find the MP girls like longer outcalls, especially overnight. They get out of the MP. I take them to dinner. They spend the night in a nice hotel room. Cheer from Bamboo told me she loved spending the night in my hotel because the bed was big and comfortable, it had A / C, and it was very quiet. She said there was loud noise coming from apartments in her building all hours of the day and night and it carried through the building. Some of the apartments were occupied by extended families who worked, slept and cooked around the clock in shifts. She never got a good night sleep. Read my first post about Aor (#24 at Annie's). On the first outcall we had a couple of hours of sex. Then she slept for three hours and we went to dinner. When we got back to my room she was a wild woman for five hours.

I'm like you 1200 versus 1500 is US$10. Big deal. That doesn't buy two meals at a fast food joint in the USA. You're absolutely right, these girls aren't fucking us because they think we're hot and looking at us gets them wet between their legs. Many of them do appreciate it when we are nice to them and give better service in return.

I take a break every few days. In part because I'm older and need a day with nothing but R&R, but also because a day of abstinence gets me good and horny when I jump back into the game the next day.

I recently holidayed in Phuket and had an amazing Thai oil massage. I wanted to know if it is customary for the girl to undress into bikini top and knickers. As this girl in phuket was wearing a nice silk skirt and top. But we she came into the room she had taken it off and was looking super hot in her bikini top.

Thanks a lot in advance.

[QUOTE=Gunners1; 1548908]I recently holidayed in Phuket and had an amazing Thai oil massage. I wanted to know if it is customary for the girl to undress into bikini top and knickers. As this girl in phuket was wearing a nice silk skirt and top. But we she came into the room she had taken it off and was looking super hot in her bikini top.

Thanks a lot in advance.[/QUOTE]I've never heard of that one before. No doubt a signal that she was availabe for extras.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1548940]I've never heard of that one before. No doubt a signal that she was availabe for extras.[/QUOTE]I have been to a few legit places in BKK and the girl led me to the room dressed in her uniform. I was on my stomach as She massage my back and could feel her skin of her leg rubbing against me. Facing down I could not see much. As I turned over I could see that she had taken her uniform off and was in a bikini top and shorts like cotton boxers. No extras could be had, strictly legit. This happened on several occasions and at several different places. A couple of reasons why is that it is warm or hot in the place as they don't like to turn on the A / C and the girls don't want to get oil on their uniforms.

Hello,

The reason I ask is that I see photos of the massage places in Pattaya and the ladies are in nice silk dresses. I just posted a FR in the Phuket forum.

I am a big fan of oil massage as I love the tease. Every massage is different. Compared to the customary soapy massage where they follow a standard procedure. And you clearly know what comes next.

I am coming to Pattaya in July for a bachelor party. And I am counting down the days.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1549184]I have been to a few legit places in BKK and the girl led me to the room dressed in her uniform. I was on my stomach as She massage my back and could feel her skin of her leg rubbing against me. Facing down I could not see much. As I turned over I could see that she had taken her uniform off and was in a bikini top and shorts like cotton boxers. No extras could be had, strictly legit. This happened on several occasions and at several different places. A couple of reasons why is that it is warm or hot in the place as they don't like to turn on the A / C and the girls don't want to get oil on their uniforms.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CheekyDancer; 1546225]Hello everyone. It's been a while since I visited Thailand so I am thinking to do a couple of months over there. I am looking for the answers to a few questions.

What are the going rates these days for girls. Overnight, short time, the whole week etc.

Are there still white girl clubs over there.

Any ideas on a good company to rent a condo close to the walking street from. Noting that I may be renting for a couple of months.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]1) rates varies depending on GoGo prices, BB, or FL
current rates as follows : Low as 500b St to high of 2000b for ST, and Low as 1000 LT to sky the limit in some GoGo (Bacara currently have some coyotes asking and getting 5000b)

2) Yes, still have several Russian bars that have stunning but expensive white Russians. Not worth it if as you are here for the darker Thai girls.

3) can't answer the condo question. Best to ask some expats on another thread here or another forum.

Hope this helps.

FZ

[QUOTE=BushWhack;1545783]As I was leaving I thought, you idiot. She is in the top 5 most beautiful girls of the 150 you've had and U-turned her down for USD 45? God I'm stupid.[/QUOTE]Not really as you stuck to your principles and what you are use to paying. I have turned down some stunners in the past for price alone knowing I could always find another that will suit my taste and price.

[QUOTE=Freezone;1549473]Not really as you stuck to your principles and what you are use to paying. I have turned down some stunners in the past for price alone knowing I could always find another that will suit my taste and price.[/QUOTE]Well it made me curious enough, I m going to have a look right now! (will keep you informed)

[QUOTE=Freezone; 1549471]1) rates varies depending on GoGo prices, BB, or FL.

Current rates as follows : Low as 500b St to high of 2000b for ST, and Low as 1000 LT to sky the limit in some GoGo (Bacara currently have some coyotes asking and getting 5000b)

2) Yes, still have several Russian bars that have stunning but expensive white Russians. Not worth it if as you are here for the darker Thai girls.

3) can't answer the condo question. Best to ask some expats on another thread here or another forum.

Hope this helps.

FZ[/QUOTE]Was curious how much the Russian women cost compared to the rest? Are they only in Pattaya?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1549871]Was curious how much the Russian women cost compared to the rest? Are they only in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Breadman,

Having done Mother Russia and a bit of the FSU in its heyday I would say that the girls working here are the cast offs. In a place with many 9s in the gogos, a few 7s walking beach road I'm at a loss why you would be considering sub 5 Russians. And although most of the gogo girls are somewhat hardened the cultural difference would make the Russians diamonds. And I don't mean in a good way. Everything I've read here and everyone that I've talked to tells me that's not the play in Pattaya.

Having said all of the: if you find yourself a Russian woman and she falls in love with you, you will never experience anything quite like that. I dated a Belarus for a number of years. Age appropriate and already living in states she was the sexiest worm I have been with. She used to crawl out of the bathroom to bed after showering. Liked it however I liked it. One of the few women that in the middle of a doggie session she turned and said "fuck my ass." Who was I to deny her her desires?

I'm just curious about the price, seen many Russian, Ukrainian, Moldova, Romanian, Polish. You get the picture. In Germany. All anywhere from $30 to $60 USD.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1549881]I'm just curious about the price, seen many Russian, Ukrainian, Moldova, Romanian, Polish. You get the picture. In Germany. All anywhere from $30 to $60 USD.[/QUOTE]You might want to PM Reiner Otto. He's been here for a while and I'm sure he would know. Where in GR are there $30-$60 girls?

Thanks

[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1549884]You might want to PM Reiner Otto. He's been here for a while and I'm sure he would know. Where in GR are there $30-$60 girls?

Thanks[/QUOTE]In all the FKK clubs, just visit the fkk forum. Lowest price are the partytreffs, highest are the fkk clubs.

I stayed at the Stay Hotel on soi 10. Got the suite so it was pricy at 4280. Breakfast for two included. I got to stop doing that breakfast thing because quite frankly I don't like eating breakfast with hookers that I can't communicate with. I'd rather read the NYTimes and start my day off relaxed. The hotel is newer so the rooms are very nice. Decent sized TV, very nice bathroom with a large walk in shower. Two problems though. 1. The internet slows to a crawl when a lot of people are using it. The lobby is always good. If you have a network cable it works fine. If you have a Mac Air you'll need an adapter. You can find one at Tucon (sp) on South Pattaya Road. 2. The air-conditioning is shit. It's either the arctic or the sahara. No in-between. I used a little yankee ingenuity and closed off half the vent with a towel then at night I cranked it and left the balcony door somewhat open. I was able to make it somewhat comfortable. Definitely not to western standards. Not sure why they even have a thermostat. I do like staying on 10. It's close to the mall and I like the food court. Great crepes. The girl starts making it as soon as she sees me. It's also quiet. Decent massage place right across from the stay. Although I think I'm getting too old for Thai massages. They can be brutal. It's also an easy walk to Walking street. I usually start at 8 and work my way down.

I had three girls off the beach. All very good experiences. The first night was maybe a 6 body wise but a 7 face. But what she lacked in looks she more than made up in performance. Basically relax and she will do the rest. It was perfect as I was tired. Great BBBJ, she had that Linda Blair head spinning ability. Great fun. She then go on her feet and lowered herself on me and rode me like it was her last fuck. Good stuff. I should have repeated.

Night two I picked up a 20 year old off the beach that was a solid 8. Used to work at the gogo but got tired of being bossed around. Something about her wanted a day off and mama said no. Her performance was a solid 8, not as good as the first night girl but she was adorable, spoke decent English and had a 10 body. Face was a solid 8.

I picked up a 18 year old on the beach the next night. Tall 170cm. Very nice body. Only here a month and very compliant. She had a 8 face, and 8 body and an 8 for the effort. I kept her two nights, just sending her home to get some clothes and so I could get a haircut. She was very sweet and willing. I finally sent her on her way so that Reiner Otto and I could go do the gogos.

Beach road girls can be had for 1-2000 LT. A lot won't do LT and want 1500 for ST. Pass. I'm not a bargain basement shopper but I'm also not a patsy. There were tons of girls on the road. I think they lost a lot of business to the street fair so they were making up for lost time. Most were 5s at best. I'm sure these could be had for 500 if that's your thing. There were not a lot of LBs as there were last time. And the one that I thought was a girl informed me right away that she was a he.

My experience at the gobos was not so good. We went to Iron, Sensations, and Bacarra. All had stunners. Quite a few coyote girls in Sensations and the don't tell you until you've bought a drink. I usually take a while to pick but once I do I'm ready to go. It happened to me twice. The second time the girl gave me that shit and her friend said are you crazy, go with the guy. So then she changes her mind and says she will go ST. Well by that time I'm turned off as I know there's no way in hell that could turn into a good experience. My record with gobos is not good. Yet I'm like a moth in the light."the light, the light, I must have the light." I got to work on that. I finally did pick one. I got to tell ya, I know that the red light is flattering but what a surprise when I got this one to the room. Put the makeup back on please. Sent her packing at 6 without a second shot. Couldn't get myself to do it.

Last night I pick a real hot 22 year old. Very pretty and pleasant. Well her "friend" has some kind of fit about her going. I try to figure out with is going on but can't make it out. I should have bailed right there but mama says "no problem." Get back to the room and she's pleasant and in a good mood. We shower and proceed to the bed. Kissing, no problem, BBBJ, no problem, throw the boot and proceed to do my business. Nice and tight. Very pretty, great tits, great belly, all good. I look down to see my cock inside her and. WTF, white discharge! WTF! I lose my hardon and question her about this. She says she's taking antibiotics so I'm guessing a bacterial infection. Now why the fuck would you still be bar fining? Jeez. I go wash and make her blow me again until I'm hard and throw a boot on again and I do the standard, lets get this over with. We clean up and I fall asleep.

All of a sudden at about 4 am I hear a noise and see her over by the desk. She's looking through my shit. I always lock anything of value in the safe as soon as a girl walks into my room. Never had a problem and don't want to so I am cautious. But now I'm pissed. I tell her she needs to go home and I'm not paying full price. I give her 1500, shouldn't have even given her that, but I'm compassionate. She says she wants 2000. I give her that look and she says "ok ok I go." After all that she gives me a peck on the cheek at the door and thanks me. In all my years this is the first time I've had that happen with a girl. Once many years ago from a street girl at home but never a girl from a gogo or parlor. I'm talking 25 years ago.

Bar fines are 1000, they will try for 1500 if they think they can get away with it but quickly settle at 1000. Sensations is big on hustling drinks. I guess they all are but some are more in your face than others. They had quite a few coyote girls hustling drinks so be careful. Make sure they will BF before you start buying drinks. I usually get 1 drink if I'm interested but cut them loose after one if the don't BF. Bar fine is usually 2000 ST 3000 LT.

The last time I was here I did better with bar girls than beach girls. Oh well. Overall a good time.

I'm off to BKK. Dr BJ, Nuru, Annie's, and who knows what else. Last year I BFed a new girl from Bacarra. She was just starting her career, cute as all and very willing to learn. I had her for four days. I've messaged her and I'm supposed to pick her up at 24:00 We'll see if that happens. I can't imagine she's going to wait for me if some guy BFs her. No big deal really but it would be nice to see what a year in the business has done to her. I've got a few other suggestions from a long time BKK monger.

The clock is ticking down. I leave the 7th. Sad but It's been a great trip. Lot's of good stories, a dog bite, lot's of shots, some stellar experiences, some shit, a lot of drink, a lot of money, an island along the way with an amazing little Filipina. Some great new friends. Problem is, if I did this full time I would either be dead of at the least need a penile implant.

Caveat: This is my experience. YMMV The trip has been a blast. Mikati, Cebu, Mikati, Sabang, HCMC, Pattaya, and now BKK.

Personally I don't care if anyone thinks I paid too much or I fucked up something else. I'm not looking to get into a pissing match with anyone. This is always a learning experience for all of us. And it changes every year if not sooner. I'm reporting my experiences. Take what you will, leave the rest.

I'll post some pictures when I get back but I got tired of taking them halfway in the trip. Some of the girls don't like it and if they don't, forcing it detracts from the experience.

On to BKK

[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1549910]Bar fines are 1000, they will try for 1500 if they think they can get away with it but quickly settle at 1000.I usually get 1 drink if I'm interested but cut them loose after one if the don't BF. Bar fine is usually 2000 ST 3000 LT.[/QUOTE]Bar fine is 1000-1500, for the girl 2000ST. 3000LT. Although my first try quoted 2500ST+1000, which I rejected.

BTW: My girl was OK. No reason to complain. I have to admit, that during daylight she is not as pretty as in the GoGo, but she just left about 12:00 lunchtime. So, for 3000LT+1000, very well. Unfortunately, because of lack of knowledge of language, most likely will not repeat.

Have fun in BKK!

[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1549910]Personally I don't care if anyone thinks I paid too much or I fucked up something else. I'm not looking to get into a pissing match with anyone. This is always a learning experience for all of us. And it changes every year if not sooner. I'm reporting my experiences. Take what you will, leave the rest.[/QUOTE]Nope, brother, this report is as it should be: informative, the pricing, and a few good laughs. Bravo.

[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1549910]I stayed at the Stay Hotel on soi 10. Got the suite so it was pricy at 4280. Breakfast for two included. I got to stop doing that breakfast thing because quite frankly I don't like eating breakfast with hookers that I can't communicate with. I'd rather read the NYTimes and start my day off relaxed. The hotel is newer so the rooms are very nice. Decent sized TV, very nice bathroom with a large walk in shower. Two problems though. 1. The internet slows to a crawl when a lot of people are using it. The lobby is always good. If you have a network cable it works fine. If you have a Mac Air you'll need an adapter. You can find one at Tucon (sp) on South Pattaya Road. 2. The air-conditioning is shit. It's either the arctic or the sahara. No in-between. I used a little yankee ingenuity and closed off half the vent with a towel then at night I cranked it and left the balcony door somewhat open. I was able to make it somewhat comfortable. Definitely not to western standards. Not sure why they even have a thermostat. I do like staying on 10. It's close to the mall and I like the food court. Great crepes. The girl starts making it as soon as she sees me. It's also quiet. Decent massage place right across from the stay. Although I think I'm getting too old for Thai massages. They can be brutal. It's also an easy walk to Walking street. I usually start at 8 and work my way down...[/QUOTE]Great report! My first experience in Pattaya was mediocre at best. I will follow your lead next time. Bangkok I know but in Pattaya I am a lost puppy.

[QUOTE=Reiner Otto; 1549967]Bar fine is 1000-1500, for the girl 2000ST. 3000LT. Although my first try quoted 2500ST+1000, which I rejected.

BTW: My girl was OK. No reason to complain. I have to admit, that during daylight she is not as pretty as in the GoGo, but she just left about 12:00 lunchtime. So, for 3000LT+1000, very well. Unfortunately, because of lack of knowledge of language, most likely will not repeat.

Have fun in BKK![/QUOTE]Reiner,

Good meeting you. Thanks for the tour. Good fun!

Ahh, your girl was like my first one. Better in the red light. I think it's no accident that the lights are red in all the clubs. I think it hides blemishes and gives them a warm look.

Until next time.

Great report FruitNinja, right on the money and all well done. If I can add a suggestion is that you go to work the disco / FLs, sometime you can find great value there, like my beloved nympho Som and many others. It's a little more effort but will train your selection skills like nothing else, and can be very, very rewarding. You always have a plan B if you need it.

Also, you can find plenty of places at 428 Bt daily (on a weekly basis) instead of 4,280 freeing up Bt 3,852 Bt for the hobby. Fully adjustable A/C, backing up the best excuse "sorry I have money nitnoi", and no wasted breakfast to share with uncommunicative girls.

I've been residing in Pattaya now for one month. It took me about two weeks to get fed up with the bars rip off's, which means overpriced drinks and this yada yada all the time about buying the working girls so called lady drinks. Two hours in a bar costed me at least 500 B, for what, a few drinks, a few lady drinks and just pseudo socialising.

Now I never even look at the bar girls, I hang out with expats on Beach Road at the evenings, getting cheap drinks from 7-Eleven and when I want to fuck I get it for 500 B with the Beach Road hotties in their twenties, and I don't have to go with the skanks that is also at Beach Road.

But keep on spending as much as you can Koreans and HiSo Yankees, up to you.

Now, does anyone know which hotel the African and Uzbekian (?) girls are residing in?

Firstly I would like to thank fruit ninja for his report, very enjoyable. I am thinking of bringing my Philippina girlfriend from Singapore to Pattaya again, I brought her with me in October last year and had a great time. She is happy for me to have a massage and a happy ending as long as I don't fuck them, this is a good arrangement as she fucks my brains out any chance she gets. My reason for posting is simple, do any Pattaya experts know where I could send her for a massage and she would have a happy ending also, I mean not get fucked but a good hand rub or vibro treatment. While she is getting juiced up I have more time for Bliss or Soi post office hahaha.

May the force be with you.

[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker;1550496]My reason for posting is simple, do any Pattaya experts know where I could send her for a massage and she would have a happy ending also,[/QUOTE]Only if I was there. LOL Sorry couldn't resist.

[QUOTE=CockTeased; 1550458]I've been residing in Pattaya now for one month. It took me about two weeks to get fed up with the bars rip off's, which means overpriced drinks and this yada yada all the time about buying the working girls so called lady drinks. Two hours in a bar costed me at least 500 B, for what, a few drinks, a few lady drinks and just pseudo socialising.

Now I never even look at the bar girls, I hang out with expats on Beach Road at the evenings, getting cheap drinks from 7-Eleven and when I want to fuck I get it for 500 B with the Beach Road hotties in their twenties, and I don't have to go with the skanks that is also at Beach Road.

But keep on spending as much as you can Koreans and HiSo Yankees, up to you.

Now, does anyone know which hotel the African and Uzbekian (?) girls are residing in?[/QUOTE]You are the new King of Pattaya mate! LOL

[QUOTE=CockTeased; 1550458]I've been residing in Pattaya now for one month. It took me about two weeks to get fed up with the bars rip off's, which means overpriced drinks and this yada yada all the time about buying the working girls so called lady drinks. Two hours in a bar costed me at least 500 B, for what, a few drinks, a few lady drinks and just pseudo socialising.

Now I never even look at the bar girls, I hang out with expats on Beach Road at the evenings, getting cheap drinks from 7-Eleven and when I want to fuck I get it for 500 B with the Beach Road hotties in their twenties, and I don't have to go with the skanks that is also at Beach Road.

But keep on spending as much as you can Koreans and HiSo Yankees, up to you.

Now, does anyone know which hotel the African and Uzbekian (?) girls are residing in?[/QUOTE]One thing I notice about Pattaya agogos is I can't make it to 45 minutes. In BKK I can easily stay for an hour.

A beach road hottie goes for 500 baht-what does a beach road skank go for-a hotel bar of soap and a bottle of water?

[QUOTE=CheeChee889; 1550619]One thing I notice about Pattaya agogos is I can't make it to 45 minutes. In BKK I can easily stay for an hour.

A beach road hottie goes for 500 baht-what does a beach road skank go for-a hotel bar of soap and a bottle of water?[/QUOTE]AGoGo's is a joke, big scam and two week tourist trap, they've got ridiculous prices both on drinks, LD's, barfines and fuck, but the more it cost the happier the Koreans get, stupid people even the girls tells me, but sure they are happy the more money they get their hands on, too bad they risk to spoil the market in the long run for more budget John's.

A Beach Road skank in her forties go for 300 B they've told me, though I would not go with these even if they paid me 300 or even 1000 B LOL.

I think you could even get the skanks if you filled up her stomach from the street waggons.

[QUOTE=CockTeased; 1550458]I've been residing in Pattaya now for one month. It took me about two weeks to get fed up with the bars rip off's, which means overpriced drinks and this yada yada all the time about buying the working girls so called lady drinks. Two hours in a bar costed me at least 500 B, for what, a few drinks, a few lady drinks and just pseudo socialising.

Now I never even look at the bar girls, I hang out with expats on Beach Road at the evenings, getting cheap drinks from 7-Eleven and when I want to fuck I get it for 500 B with the Beach Road hotties in their twenties, and I don't have to go with the skanks that is also at Beach Road.

But keep on spending as much as you can Koreans and HiSo Yankees, up to you.

Now, does anyone know which hotel the African and Uzbekian (?) girls are residing in?[/QUOTE]It's a different ball game living somewhere and being on vacation somewhere. It's okay to spend like that if you are on vacation because you are making memories and should not be jaded in that short of time. You don't see people who live in Las Vegas running out to the casinos and shows every night. When you live somewhere you should learn the real ropes. Not to mention, if you tried to go to a gogo/bar everyday you would soon go broke. Just like the guys recently talking about a bar fine for 1500 and giving a girl 3000 for LT. Dude my rent is 4500/month. There is no way in hell I would pay out that much for a chick for 1 night. If you live in Pattaya you could have someone on retainer for a month for that much and get them to come over when you want. But when you are on vacation you are in have-a-good-time mode and it doesn't matter as much.

I think most of the Uzbek and African chicks stay in apartments in Jomtien under the watch of whoever "sponsored" them to go to Thailand and is holding their passport.

Tip: If you are going to a bar or disco and you are drinking liquor, then it is best to buy a bottle. If you order a single drink and compare it to what comes out of a bottle that you bought you can tell that the single drinks are drastically watered down.

Sharks review.

Not many girls. A bit overpricedat70 baht. Won't be returning. Customers were almost non-existant.

Pricing at Baccara and Sharks are very same same. Makes absolute no sense as far as Sharks goes. The customers going to Baccara and bypassing sharks makes a lot of sense. I will be a regular at Baccaras.

[QUOTE=CockTeased; 1550458]I've been residing in Pattaya now for one month.

Now, does anyone know which hotel the African and Uzbekian (?) girls are residing in?[/QUOTE]Well, last year, on my last night on Pattaya. At 2am. Me and my friend had a sudden urge for some Uzbek beauties. So, we went to 'Mid Town Inn' hotel (near Camelot hotel). Where Uzbek WLs usually hang around at evenings. But at 2am there was none. But a bike-taxi-man told us he can get uzbeki girls for us. So we hopped on two bikes and went to an apartment blocks behind Mike shopping mall. The bike-taxi man called someone and within 5 minutes 2 uzbeki beauties got down. They rode along with us on the bikes to our hotel.

My friend took the older one. He was lucky because she was A+ service provider. Total damage 1000 tbh / each girl + 300 thb bike-taxi fare and commission.

Service 7/10, Look 7.5/10, not bad huh.

My one's name was Layla and I even have her number. But I can't share it here because forum rules forbid it.

[QUOTE=DRobin; 1551201]Well, last year, on my last night on Pattaya. At 2am. Me and my friend had a sudden urge for some Uzbek beauties. So, we went to 'Mid Town Inn' hotel (near Camelot hotel). Where Uzbek WLs usually hang around at evenings. But at 2am there was none. But a bike-taxi-man told us he can get uzbeki girls for us. So we hopped on two bikes and went to an apartment blocks behind Mike shopping mall. The bike-taxi man called someone and within 5 minutes 2 uzbeki beauties got down. They rode along with us on the bikes to our hotel.

My friend took the older one. He was lucky because she was A+ service provider. Total damage 1000 tbh / each girl + 300 thb bike-taxi fare and commission.

Service 7/10, Look 7. 5/10, not bad huh.

My one's name was Layla and I even have her number. But I can't share it here because forum rules forbid it.[/QUOTE]I am in Pattaya now. Can you please PM me the contact details? Thanks.

[QUOTE=CockTeased;1550458]I get it for 500 B with the Beach Road hotties in their twenties, and I don't have to go with the skanks that is also at Beach Road.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen a hottie on BR in years!

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1552577]I haven't seen a hottie on BR in years![/QUOTE]I have never seen such sparse pickings, and certainly no hotties!

Greetings all.

I'm a relative newbie but have been a few times in the last few years.

Ill say this in advance. I can't be bothered with Walking Street. Especially the damn shows the people put on which blocks the already crowded street and restricts all movement. It doesn't really help that the tour groups are always around either.

So negativity aside, I decided on a plan of action for my trip after reading here and on other boards and put it into practice after my MR T TAXI from the Air Asia terminal in BKK. I got into Sabai Wing at about 20:30 and checked in. Threw my shit in the room, which is more than adequate and cheap enough for what it is, and headed straight to Soi 6. Nightwish is my bar in the Six and I really like the way they treat you as a customer there. There are not that many free drinks bandied about but the manager is welcoming and the girls are extremely fun. Especially the famous one there who everyone knows. She is GREAT.

I was too tired to do much there so I decided to check out the Drinking Street options and headed over there. Drinking street can be fun, but like any bar, you can walk into a boring situation with zero excitement and that is exactly what happened to me at the first bar. Name forgotten unfortunately and that is how it should be. After this I walked out to the first bar on the left as you enter the complex. Utoo bar or something like that and immediately after I sat down next to a very cute girl who was on a break I was accosted by the mama. For me at least, the mama and the staff were not pushy at all when it came to drinks. I like this and I bought mama and saw a girl I liked the look of and one for her as well. She had a pretty common sort of Thai name (again forgotten) but was quite tall and cute IMHO. At this point I had been up and around for ages and was getting tired. I told this girl that I wanted to BF her but didn't have enough money to pay her. It was 1000 for her and something like 500 for the bar. So mama suggested we head down to walking street and exchange some cash there. We got back to the room and had a couple of rounds with one in her arse as well. She gave me her number and I made some mention of coming back tomorrow etc etc. And I did as I felt comfortable with her and she wasnt in a mad rush to run off.

Day two started late. I went down to LK metro for breakfast at I Rovers. The 99 baht breakfast there is perfect. Can't even get close to that where I live (Japan). Late afternoon I was sitting in the big bar there Billabong or whatever is it called and got ready to hit some of the gogos around there. Amethyst was empty when I went in there. Too early but I found a rather cute girl there who was right in so many ways. It was way too early on the whole so I headed to the six again. Ning welcomed me to Nightwish with a kiss and a drink.

She is a great host and really enjoyed my time with her upstairs as well.

To be continued later.

[QUOTE=DRobin; 1551201]Well, last year, on my last night on Pattaya. At 2am. Me and my friend had a sudden urge for some Uzbek beauties. So, we went to 'Mid Town Inn' hotel (near Camelot hotel). Where Uzbek WLs usually hang around at evenings. But at 2am there was none. But a bike-taxi-man told us he can get uzbeki girls for us. So we hopped on two bikes and went to an apartment blocks behind Mike shopping mall. The bike-taxi man called someone and within 5 minutes 2 uzbeki beauties got down. They rode along with us on the bikes to our hotel.

My friend took the older one. He was lucky because she was A+ service provider. Total damage 1000 tbh / each girl + 300 thb bike-taxi fare and commission.

Service 7/10, Look 7. 5/10, not bad huh.

My one's name was Layla and I even have her number. But I can't share it here because forum rules forbid it.[/QUOTE]Interesting, I always wonder about these girls. Please PM her info, I'd love to try her. Thanks.

R.

Finally I took the plunge and visited Pattaya after 3 years of living in Bangkok. I was really not that impresses. I looked at the girls on Beach road and they reminded me of street hookers back home or the ones in the Nana parking lot. My idea is if the girls have to work on the street instead if a go go, normal bar as a FL, or a lady in a staff bar then they have some issues- HIV, bad attitudes, post or per op ladyboy, amd or maybe just a typical thief or scammer. I checked out the massage parlours a the I prefer Bangkok's must more. Quality of white skin hotties is much greater. On walking street the typical go go's were in full swing. I looked in most of them and they were not any different than Bangkok. So why go to Pattaya? Bargain prices on Soi 6 ot beach road would be the only reason to choose Pattaya as a mongering destination in my option. I think Bangkok offers everything that Pattaya does and more. I ended up at one of those outside beer garden type places on walking street. In one section there is about 12-20 small little bars each with about 10 girls working. Their job is to sell drinks, including lady drinks, and find a potential customer to bar fine them for the night. Customer drinks are about 100-150THB. Lady drinks are about 50-80THB more. The bar fine is 300-400THB. There are many real cute and beautiful spinners in these small bars all located in one pad area in walking street. 1500ST and 2000-3000LT. So I found myself a little hottie for the night and all was good. Can you find all this in Bangkok? Yes, but it was a good experience anyways.

[QUOTE=CockTeased; 1550458]I've been residing in Pattaya now for one month. It took me about two weeks to get fed up with the bars rip off's, which means overpriced drinks and this yada yada all the time about buying the working girls so called lady drinks. Two hours in a bar costed me at least 500 B, for what, a few drinks, a few lady drinks and just pseudo socialising.

Now I never even look at the bar girls, I hang out with expats on Beach Road at the evenings, getting cheap drinks from 7-Eleven and when I want to fuck I get it for 500 B with the Beach Road hotties in their twenties, and I don't have to go with the skanks that is also at Beach Road.

But keep on spending as much as you can Koreans and HiSo Yankees, up to you.

Now, does anyone know which hotel the African and Uzbekian (?) girls are residing in?[/QUOTE]Two hours in a bar for 500 baht? You sound like a real class act!

[QUOTE=Bule2004;1552624]I have never seen such sparse pickings, and certainly no hotties![/QUOTE]Lets be fair. I haven't actualy seen a decent customer doing business with these HOttIes either. LOL. Either pack of indians going for the group discount or very nastie looking swede guy. LOL.

How guys think hot chicks go for 500 baht is mind muggling.

Sugarbaby is number 1 bar as far as my 1 week sampling went. The why got some really decent bodies with decent faces on the topless side, way better than anything on Rainbows topless stage.

On Sugarbabys nude side I saw 2 of the ugliest bodies I evere saw- one was as flat chested and ugly as one can get. LOL. The othe just a nasty botched boob job.

[QUOTE=ShaggedOut;1552960]Two hours in a bar for 500 baht? You sound like a real class act![/QUOTE]This report makes me think this guy is being totally sarcastic. I mean really. He is bitching about 500 baht for a couple of hours at gogo. An hour sipping a drink? Really? And he's doing hotties for 500. I was on Beach Road during and just after the festival and there were quite a lot of attractive young ladies. But as everything in life, timing is everything. For me I was impressed with the 3 I got off BR. But the majority. 90% I would not do. Maybe I got lucky. But I had shit experiences with bar girls in Patayya.

And I'm sorry but buying quarts at 7-11 and drinking on the beach is just not my way of enjoying life.

[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1553058]For me I was impressed with the 3 I got off BR. But the majority. 90% I would not do.[/QUOTE]Was on BR yesterday. Number of service providers decreased drastically, and now odds are "99. 9% I would not do".

So I used my last resort: The girl from the beer bar in Jomtien, on my way back home.

Last weekend ahead. Planning for UA already. The currency exchange rate is seducing.

[QUOTE=Reiner Otto; 1553166]Was on BR yesterday. Number of service providers decreased drastically, and now odds are "99. 9% I would not do".

So I used my last resort: The girl from the beer bar in Jomtien, on my way back home.

Last weekend ahead. Planning for UA already. The currency exchange rate is seducing.[/QUOTE]The one in the pink outfit you met was picked up in the afternoon. Like around 1. So you never really know. Timing. What city are you thinking. I'll be in the south of France in May but with a regular girl.

[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1553475]What city are you thinking.[/QUOTE]Just booked the flights. Will stay in Nikolaev during June, and the first weekend of July in Odessa. Arkadia is waiting.

Hello,

I will be arriving in Bangkok and heading straight to Pattaya shortly. Do you know of any VIP pickup service where she can give me some company and soothe away those tired muscles after the long flight with a massage on my road trip from Bangkok to Pattaya. I checked our mr. Dream transport service but the website mentions that the VIP service is no longer available.

Thanks a lot in advance.

G

[QUOTE=Mooris7;1552934]My idea is if the girls have to work on the street instead if a go go, normal bar as a FL, or a lady in a staff bar then they have some issues- HIV, bad attitudes, post or per op ladyboy, amd or maybe just a typical thief or scammer.[/QUOTE]All these issues are also applicable for the girls in your preferable ventures too. And the chances are same as you afraid for the Beach road girls. If some one prefer GFE issue, so it will be much considerable for Beach road girls than any other ventures.

[QUOTE=Gunners1; 1553751]Hello,

I will be arriving in Bangkok and heading straight to Pattaya shortly. Do you know of any VIP pickup service where she can give me some company and soothe away those tired muscles after the long flight with a massage on my road trip from Bangkok to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]These might work for you:

[url]Http://devilsdenthailand.com/vip-bus.html[/url]

[url]http://www.penthousehotel.com/taxi_pattaya_transportation_bangkok_cab_international_airport_limousine_suvarnabhumi_pickup_escort_thai_girls_car_penthouse_boutique_hotel.html[/url]

[url]http://secretspattaya.com/chauffeur-service/[/url]

SunLover

[QUOTE=Mooris7]On Walking Street the typical go-gos were in full swing. I looked in most of them and they were not any different than Bangkok. So why go to Pattaya? Bargain prices on Soi 6 would be the only reason to choose Pattaya as a mongering destination in my option. I think Bangkok offers everything that Pattaya does and more.[/QUOTE]When it comes to go-go clubs, I think it's significant that a guy who *lives* in Bangkok thinks the Walking Street establishments are "not any different." I would also note the go-go scene on Soi LK Metro has improved by leaps and bounds recently. If Mr. Mooris returns to Pattaya, he should make it a point to visit that part of town.

As for Bangkok offering "everything Pattaya does and more," I can't quibble. A naughty boy can find whatever he desires in the capital city, plus all manner of shopping, dining and cultural activities not on offer in Pattaya. That said, Pattaya has something Bangkok doesn't, namely a laid back beach resort ambiance. The entire place is optimized for people on holiday. There is abundant lodging at all price points. The baht buses make it silly simple to get around. Food is dirt cheap. You can't walk 20 meters without passing a modest little hole in the wall where you can have a drink or a meal or a long lazy afternoon chat with your mates. And let's not forget the beach.

I love Bangkok and make it a point to enjoy both its demimonde and its more reputable charms every time I visit Thailand. But Pattaya lowers my blood pressure and I make it a point to spend the bulk of my time there.

Bunky

[QUOTE=Reiner Otto;1553508]Just booked the flights. Will stay in Nikolaev during June, and the first weekend of July in Odessa. Arkadia is waiting.[/QUOTE]I'll be in Provence from 8 May to 18 May with my friend, then a week to play somewhere. Any suggestions? Email me and let's discuss. Maybe I'll take another week.

pattaya, day 11, thursday.

it is worth noting that mandalay's airport is a fair distance from the city. my taxi crawled through the down-town traffic but soon we were speeding our way down near-deserted motorways. the journey took an hour and cost $12. i was sad to leave burma. although i had only spent three days in yangon, followed by four days being a tourist in bagan and mandalay, i fell in love with the place and the people. i definitely wouldn't recommend burma as a place to visit solely for pay-for-play but if you wanted to visit a beautiful country with ample girls available in the capital, then it's a good option.

the flight back to bangkok took an hour and 45 minutes. there are plenty of taxis available to pattaya (cost 1200 baht) but it was mid-afternoon and i was in no rush. i took the crowded a1 'shuttle bus' from don muang airport to mo chit, which cost 30 baht and took 15 minutes. from mo chit i took the skytrain to ekkamai. it cost 42 baht, there were 16 stops and it took about half an hour. at one point a spectacularly pretty girl stood next to me, an undoubted 10/10 in my books. she was dressed smartly as if she was going to work, perhaps the front desk of a nice hotel. like all girls on the mts she was busy on her phone.

ekkamai bus station is located below the skytrain stop. sometimes there are touts outside who try to sell tickets for inflated prices but the counter for pattaya is the first on the right. there are regular buses throughout the day and my ticket cost 124 baht. the bus departed at 5pm and took two and a half hours. as usual the air-con was too cold and i didn't get much of a view because the thai people surrounding me closed their curtains to shield themselves from the late-afternoon sun. from pattaya bus station i jumped on to the back of a motorbike taxi to take me to my hotel.

the total cost of the journey from don muang airport to pattaya was 276 baht. the 1000 baht i saved by choosing public transport would be invested in bar-fines and lady-drinks!

i felt excited to be back in pattaya. eight days lay ahead of me and i wanted to average two girls a day. that meant somewhere out there were possibly 16 girls that i'd be fucking. i wondered whether i'd meet the same quality of girls as i did last year. i texted my friend macca to tell him i had arrived. i hadn't seen him since last year so was looking forward to catching up. it had been a tiring day and i didn't fancy a late night, so i suggested we meet on walking street tomorrow.

once again i chose to stay at lek hotel. it's handily located on 2nd road, near the beach, walking street, soi lk metro and various massage parlours. my room cost 1200 baht per night and was clean and spacious. the rooms overlooking the pool have balconies but mine was on the opposite side of the building. i'm sure better value hotels can be found elsewhere but there is a lot to be said for familiarity and i also like lek's breakfast and dinner buffet.

the time was just after 8pm and i wanted to hit the ground running with a great girl on my first night. after a long day of travel but what better way to relax than a soapy massage? i quickly showered and changed, then flagged down a songthaew outside my hotel, a pick-up with two facing benches in the back. a constant stream of them loop up 2nd road and then back down beach road, you just flag one down, jump in the back and then when you get to your destination you ring a buzzer and jump off. the fare is always 10 baht which you pass through the window to the driver.

sabai dee is a large colourful building located on the junction between 2nd road and soi 1, opposite big c shopping centre. i walked in at 9pm and took a seat in front of the l-shaped fishbowl. 40 girls were sitting on the steps with those on the right costing 2000 baht and the generally prettier girls on the left costing 2400. i ordered a drink as i like to take my time. there were some nice girls and they were all aged between 20 and 30 with the younger ones mainly in the higher price bracket. i received lots of smiles and waves as i slowly scanned around. i didn't see annie who i fucked here last year which i had mixed feelings about. i like to go with different girls but she was one of the most skilled performers i have ever been with (girls who creatively use their fingernails always score highly!). had she been there i suspect i would have found her hard to resist.

a dozen indian men walked in. the papasan instructed them to sit down at a free table but they ignored his request and stayed standing which obscured my view of 50% of the girls. i relocated to another seat in front of the 'models' but made sure that i registered my annoyance to the papasan with a shake of my head as i walked past. i now had a much better view, slap-bang in front of the prettiest girls. number 110 had dark skin and exactly the kind of curvy figure i like with enticingly large tits. next to her was sat number 142 who was the opposite, pale and skinny but just as cute. she mouthed hi as i looked in her direction. i saw a stunner walk past and sit down on the top step. she was a 9/10 with blond hair and a top-heavy figure but almost instantly she was picked by a middle-aged japanese man. you've got to hand it to these japs, they have good taste in girls.

i opted for number 110. she had a warm, girl-next-door appeal but what clinched the deal was her figure. if you go for a soapy massage you may as well pick a girl with curves! i paid 2400 at the counter and my choice of girl came to stand next to me. she was cute, had a nice smile and her large tits were trying their best to fight their way out of the red dress she was wearing. she introduced herself as taw and her dark skin made her look more indian than thai. we shared the lift with two other couples, including the voluptuous 9/10 i had seen in the fishbowl. she was number 103 and looked even better up close. the two customers were japanese and as always they stood next to their girls in a very formal, businesslike manner, almost like they were about to conduct a job interview. in contrast taw pinched me on the bum. when i looked accusingly down at her she was a picture of innocence. i was delighted with my choice.

it got better when we got to the room. she told me to sit down and sat astride me, kissed me passionately and then pulled my face in to her tits. when i pulled away for breath she started licking my ear!

the format is always the same in soapies. she got undressed and had a beautiful curvy body with big tits. in the fishbowl they looked natural as they wobbled whenever she shifted position but now i could see that they were fakes, probably c-cup. she tied her hair up and we got in to the bath together. this is always a good opportunity to get to know your girl as she attentively soaps and washes you. then she asked me to lie on the inflatable mattress and used her naked body to slip and slide over me. i was in heaven. i like the fact that no soapy is the same and taw's signature move was to slide one leg beneath me and 'scissor' me, a position favoured by lesbians the world over. as she did so she reached below me and gave me a hand-job. she asked me to turn over and used her large assets to massage my front, kissing me on the lips each time her face was level with mine. she then slid down and placed her tits either side of my dick and gave me an enjoyable tit-wank. this girl knew how to please.

as she was rinsing the suds off afterwards, i felt a sharp pain. after a close examination of my erection, i realised that taw's soapy massage had been so intense and vigorous i had a small friction burn! presumably it was caused because there weren't enough suds on the mattress when i lay down. coincidentally the only other time this has happened was my first ever visit to sabai dee with a girl called atom. soapies should come with a health warning!

we lay on the bed kissing before taw teased her way down my body and gave me a nice blowjob. i took hold of one of her legs and lifted it over me so that we were in 69. taw sucked slowly and deeply as i flicked my tongue over her clit and whenever i stuck my tongue in to her, she groaned. i enjoyed watching in the ceiling mirror above the bed. the sex matched the foreplay. she was a willing performer and happily tried lots of positions. she started by riding me but her pussy was so tight i flipped her on to her back to gain control. she loved to be fucked hard with her ankles on my shoulders. from that position i took both of her ankles and placed them to my right, down on the bed next to each other. taw was still on her back but i was entering her pussy sideways, a position asian girls particularly seem to love as it means their pussy is very tight. i like it too because i can lie down behind them, still inside, and 'spoon' them from behind, one of my favourite positions. taw kissed me over her shoulder as she played with herself.

when we finished we lay naked on the bed and talked to each other via the ceiling mirror. she looked pretty, her lovely body stretched over the bed and her hair spread over the pillow. after 15 minutes we got changed and i took her mobile number. everything was going perfectly until i asked for a photo. she said "next time we meet you can take photos". i always respect it when girls don't want their picture taken but she was such a great girl, i jokingly tried to persuade her. suddenly her demeanor changed and her smile disappeared."you just want photo to show friend girls you fuck" she said. she was right in a way. my friend macca had told me via email a week ago that he wanted to have a soapy massage, so i hoped to take a photo of taw to show him. we have similar taste in girls and i would recommend her since she provided such a good service. i tried to tell this to taw but by now she was angry with me. the more i tried to explain, the angrier she got.

i pride myself that i always get on well with pay-for-play girls and treat them with the respect they deserve, so when she walked away when we got out of the lift without a goodbye, i regarded it as a personal failing. i had offended her. immediately when i left sabai dee i sent her a text message to apologise. because she had walked away without saying goodbye, i hadn't had chance to give her a tip and she had been such a great girl and willing performer she deserved one. i told her that i didn't mean to upset her and i would like to take her for dinner one night to apologise.

my original plan was to have a soapy at sabai dee and then an early night but now i was on a roll. i hadn't slept with any girls for the last four days of my burma trip and now i wanted to make up for it. it was only 11pm so i had time for a quickie on soi 6 before bed-time. it is a street that stretches between 2nd road and beach road that is lined with about 40 short-time bars. if you see a girl you like, you can take her to a room upstairs, a bit like amsterdam's red light district. it's quick and easy (or should that be quick and sleazy?). the street was busy and i'd guess there were about 250 girls. i slowly walked down the middle of the road and lots of girls sitting on stools called hello. the majority of girls were aged between 25 and 35 and although most are fairly average, there is usually a gem or two to be found. i like soi 6 because it feels like a lucky dip.

about halfway down an attractive lady-boy grabbed my arm. she was wearing a tight white dress that revealed a big pair of fake tits and she had mesmerising eyes with big pouty lips. she was probably the most feminine ladyboy i've met but there was nothing feminine about her grip! ladyboys are not my thing so i wriggled free and continue down soi 6 where i spotted a likely candidate outside full moon bar. she was one of the younger girls on display with a nice face and curves to match. i decided to go for it. i said hello and two minutes later we were inside the bar clinking bottles of beer. she stroked my leg as we chatted and i felt myself getting hard. her name was bell and i decided it was time for 'seconds out, round 1'. the room cost 300 and her price was 1000 baht. not long ago 700 was the going-rate for a quickie on soi 6 but the prettier girls now charge 1000.

sometimes the rooms on soi 6 can be quite basic but this one was great. it had leopard-skin decor and there was even a mirror on the ceiling over the bed. it felt sleazy which is exactly what i want when i come to soi 6. after showering we lay on the bed kissing. she had big soft lips and after a while she kissed her way down my body and gave me an excellent blowjob. i watched myself in the ceiling mirror, spread-eagled on the leopard-skin covers with bell's head bobbing up and down. i had a shock when i looked down and noticed that my dick was red but soon realised it was bell's cheap lipstick! i wiped my wrist across my lips and sure enough there was a red smear from when i had been kissing her.

the sex was fast and frantic. she seemed a game girl so when i was fucking her doggy-style i inserted a finger in to her ass. she softly groaned so i pulled my dick out of her pussy and teased her asshole with it. she didn't resist so i gently pushed. she was extraordinarily tight but she pushed back on to me and after a few seconds my dick slid in. she groaned loudly so i was gentle at first, slowly easing in and out but ten minutes later i was pounding her ass as hard as i could as she gripped the pillow tightly.

when we finished we lay next to each other on the bed chatting. normally this is the signal to shower again and get changed but not this time. she leaned across and deep french kissed me and stroked my dick back in to life."you horny?" bell asked unnecessarily. second out, round two.

it was only when i was taking a songthaew back to my hotel that i realised that i didn't take a photo of her. i cursed myself. tonight i'd had three great fucks with two great girls but i didn't have one single photo to show for it. or so i thought. just before i went to bed my phone buzzed and it was a message from taw from sabai dee. it said 'nice to meet you' so i felt pleased that she'd accepted my apology. surprisingly she'd also attached a photo and even more surprisingly it was a full body shot of her wearing a bikini. the photo was pre boob-job but it showed off her lovely curves.

i went to bed happy. tonight had been a great start to my time in pattaya.

[the previous parts to this diary can be found in the bangkok, burma 'general info' and mandalay threads]

[QUOTE=Razor; 1552861]Interesting, I always wonder about these girls. Please PM her info, I'd love to try her. Thanks.

R.[/QUOTE]Yes definitely interesting.

Can you please PM me their info and contact?

Thanks bro

Thanks for your reports, Sir Lancelot. Great detail and very helpful for others.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1555199]I took the crowded A1 'shuttle bus' from Don Muang Airport to Mo Chit, which cost 30 baht and took 15 minutes. From Mo Chit I took the skytrain to Ekkamai. It cost 42 baht, there were 16 stops and it took about half an hour.[/QUOTE]I think there's a more efficient way to do this trip on public transit. Don Muang and Suvarnabhumi Airport are connected with a free bus service. Some of the Ekkamai to Pattaya buses stop at Suvarnabhumi on the way. Since you didn't leave Ekkamai til 5:00 pm you probably got caught in rush hour. Don Muang to Suvarnabhumi to Pattaya might have avoided the rush hour, making the whole trip quicker and cheaper. This might help others in a similar situation.

Thanks again for the field reports.

[QUOTE=Bartchamdo;1555361](...) making the whole trip quicker and cheaper. (...)[/QUOTE]We have to drop our Western attitude of wanting everything to be quick and cheap. This is Thailand, relax. If you chase your happiness it will escape you always.

Sir Lancelot took the long way and look, "a spectacularly pretty girl" stood next to him. Look at a pretty girl or be in your hotel 30 minutes faster? I know what I want (be in my hotel with the pretty girl).

I take the shuttle to Suvanabumi, free with today's boarding pass. 40 min to 1 1/2 hrs, depending on traffic and then the Jomtien bus for 124 bt. 1 1/2 hrs, from Teeprasit Road which is the last stop and the most convenient, after that it is just the 10 bt bus to and down second road. 15 min. What saves time down the road is to buy the ticket for the way back to the airport while you are there.

[QUOTE=Mooris7;1552934]Finally I took the plunge and visited Pattaya after 3 years of living in Bangkok. I was really not that impresses. I looked at the girls on Beach road and they reminded me of street hookers back home or the ones in the Nana parking lot. My idea is if the girls have to work on the street instead if a go go, normal bar as a FL, or a lady in a staff bar then they have some issues- HIV, bad attitudes, post or per op ladyboy, amd or maybe just a typical thief or scammer. I checked out the massage parlours a the I prefer Bangkok's must more. Quality of white skin hotties is much greater. On walking street the typical go go's were in full swing. I looked in most of them and they were not any different than Bangkok. So why go to Pattaya? Bargain prices on Soi 6 ot beach road would be the only reason to choose Pattaya as a mongering destination in my option. I think Bangkok offers everything that Pattaya does and more. I ended up at one of those outside beer garden type places on walking street. In one section there is about 12-20 small little bars each with about 10 girls working. Their job is to sell drinks, including lady drinks, and find a potential customer to bar fine them for the night. Customer drinks are about 100-150THB. Lady drinks are about 50-80THB more. The bar fine is 300-400THB. There are many real cute and beautiful spinners in these small bars all located in one pad area in walking street. 1500ST and 2000-3000LT. So I found myself a little hottie for the night and all was good. Can you find all this in Bangkok? Yes, but it was a good experience anyways.[/QUOTE]As a newbie to Thailand. I just came back from Bangkok and Pattaya and I prefer Pattaya over Bangkok much more!

1. Club scene. Pattaya you have Insomia, Mixx, Flexx, Marine, Pier and more all on Walking Street. Bangkok had Insanity (and that was only because a girl showed me it. There might be more).

2. Beach (Although beach looked like crap, I will have to take the boat out to the nicer beach I hear).

3. Beach Road and Soi 6 (Bangkok seems to be lacking in ST places). Will need to explore more, but these types of places are hit or miss and you would get better value and time pulling a girl from a club.

As for equating streetwalkers or freelancers in a club to HIV is just wrong. There are numerous reasons why some do not want to work in a gogo. One of which is a usually rigid schedule. If she has kids, part timer, student, etc, most can't commit to a fulltime gig at a gogo (This is my experience in South America).

pattaya, friday.

although last night was an excellent start to my time in pattaya, it had taken its toll. i woke with 'morning glory' and my dick felt sore due to the friction burn i'd got at the soapy. don't laugh, it's not funny. it would probably keep me out of action for today, which was frustrating but it wasn't the end of the world. i was meeting macca later for a 'gogo crawl' on walking street so even if i didn't bar-fine a girl, at least i could treat it as reconnaissance! it was a hot day so i spent the afternoon at the beach. it was crowded but i enjoyed watching hot russian girls walk past. sunglasses were invented to surreptitiously perv on girls in bikinis.

i ate at a thai restaurant near my hotel and afterwards noticed a familiar face at kannika beer-bar, opposite the night bazaar. it was poum, a girl i bar-fined five years ago on my cherry trip to pattaya. back then she talked about going back to her province to open a shop and in subsequent years i haven't seen her. but there she was, looking older but still wearing the same lovely smile. i considered saying hello but i didn't want to be late for my meeting with macca. i'd have chance to speak to her on another night.

i walked to walking street along beach road. from the end of soi 12 i counted 87 freelancers of different shapes and sizes, including girls from each end of the age spectrum. on the one hand i saw perhaps the oldest streetwalker i have ever seen, probably pushing 50. in contrast i saw several pretty young girls who could easily be dolled up to work in one of the top-end gogo bars. i saw one however who must surely have been ****, she looked about 15 to me. a big gorilla of a man was talking to her, probably three times her age and four times her weight. further on i saw two black girls. one had a big afro and a slinky figure. although i've fucked many black girls in amsterdam, i've never had a 'girlfriend experience' with one. i thought i was going to tick it off my 'bucket list' last year when i met a black girl off the internet. i went to her house and after enduring a mind-numbingly tedious rom-com (aren't they all?) , we were all over each other on her couch. there was lots of kissing and groping and before long she was giving me a handjob as i fingered her pussy. but when i pulled a condom out of my pocket she said "i'm not a slapper!" western women confuse me. giving me a handjob on a first date was okay but apparently sex would make her a 'slapper'! still, a handjob for a cheap bottle of white wine, i couldn't complain.

beach road is the bargain basement of pattaya and people who deride the quality of girls are missing the point. of course the large majority are lower rung girls but the beauty of any freelance scene is that you only need to find one girl to make it worthwhile. of the 87 girls i spotted three i'd happily spend the night with. and of course if i did decide to take one back to my hotel, i would pay considerably less than if i took a girl from a gogo bar. having said that, i think it's fair to say that the pretty young things would charge more than the 50 year old granny!

the time was 8. 40pm when i stepped on to walking street. it was packed with tourists, couples and even the occasional monger. indian men walked down the street filming on their camera and 20 identically dressed japanese women gathered under a tour-guides flag. there were lots of russian couples too, generally comprising of an attractive blond and a muscle-bound boyfriend sporting a mullet. russian guys look like they could be in an 80's soft rock video. i wouldn't say that to their face though.

i arrived at alcatraz and sat on a stool outside and ordered a draft beer. i enjoyed watching the 'hello girls' in action, handcuffs dangling from their leather belts, waving their 'happy hour' and '79 baht beer' signs to the river of people flowing past. i noticed a short man walk in to alcatraz and then thirty seconds later he walked out before repeating the process in farenheit next door. it's a pet hate of mine when guys do this and i know from speaking with girls that they find it disrespectful too. suddenly i saw a jack bauer lookalike waving enthusiastically from the crowd of people. it was macca looking more ripped than i remember."you've been working out!" i said as he shook my hand. it was great to catch up. he told me about his trip so far which had been mixed. he'd been with some great girls he told me but he'd also had a major scare when he fell off his motorbike and was lucky to escape with minor injuries.

normally people plot to escape from alcatraz but macca and i were desperate to get in. we took our beers inside and there were ten girls dancing, plus plenty on the sidelines. the quality was good and the standout was number 136. she had that killer combination of a beautiful face, a perfect toned body and she was a sexy mover too. if prisons had girls like her dancing topless every night, i'd hand myself in to police for a crime i didn't commit. a pretty girl sat on my lap but before we had chance to talk, all of the girls began banging ashtrays on the tables. i could barely hear myself think over all of the clank-clank-clanking. i realised it was to tie in with the prison theme. either that or the girls were having a protest at how skimpy their outfits were. i really like alcatraz. there are some pretty girls, the staff are very friendly and there is no pressure at all to buy lady-drinks. even the girl who sat on my lap didn't ask for one.

it was 10pm when we walked in to beach club. this was one of my favourite bars last year but sadly they've now changed the layout. there used to be a dozen round tables, each of which would have on it a naked young hottie. every five minutes the girls would step on to the next table which meant customers got a good close-up view of lots of naked girls. but now it's been transformed in to a standard gogo bar with a rectangular stage in the middle surrounded by two tiers of seats. fortunately the quality of girls was the same. all were young and i saw several hotties."you wait till you see number 98" said macca as we ordered two beers. before the drinks came back, two young girls walked over and plonked themselves next to macca and i. the girl next to me was extremely cute, with fair hair and a japanese-style fringe. her name was tom and she 19 years old. when i offered her a drink she gave me a big metal-mouthed smile.

this bar definitely has some pretty girls. a 9/10 walked past wearing 405 and macca pointed out a stunning waitress sat on a stool next to the stage. we agreed that she was the prettiest girl in the bar. however, her arms were folded and she looked rather glum. macca decided to go and speak to her but came back a minute later unimpressed."she didn't smile once" he said. when i said "why you not smile?" her friend said "she smile if you buy her drink". it's horrible when you encounter girls like this who clearly dislike their job. in stark contrast, tom was a little ray of sunshine. she told me "have to go dance now" and i watched with amusement as she climbed up on stage and danced for thirty seconds before a shift-change was called. she came back to sit next to me, grinning, and i said "shortest dance ever!" at least it gave me chance to admire her petite frame in a skimpy outfit.

although my plan was to have a girl-free night tonight, i knew there was a chance i might give in to temptation. tom seemed pleased when i angled her badge round so i could read her number. she was 603. even if i didn't bar-fine her tonight, i could always come back another time.

it was my turn to pick where to go and i opted for heavenabove. it's located on soi diamond above super baby. the steps have 'stairway to heaven' written on them but sadly there weren't many angels inside. last year i'd been impressed by this place and saw a few lovely girls including a 10/10, but this time there were just eight girls dancing and the standard was below par. 328 was the prettiest, with a stylish short hair-cut that made her stand out. another girl had a 5/10 face but a large pair of tits that macca and i decided were definitely real."enough wobble" was the consensus of opinion.

our favourite club last year was happy agogo, located at the end of soi happy. it has two stages and is always ram-jam-packed with customers. it was 11pm when we entered and macca immediately fell in love with number 15, a stunning girl with long legs. ten girls were dancing and every few minutes they each took a step forward. the girl at the front stepped off the stage and a new girl got on at the back. it's like a conveyor belt of pretty girls. as a result, the stools at the front of the stage are the best seats in happy. if you are lucky enough to sit at one and you see a girl you like, you can intercept her as she steps off the stage. an elderly japanese man wearing a baseball cap did exactly that with macca's dream girl, number 15. they talked briefly before he slipped a green note in to her bra."it'll take more than 20 baht to impress a girl like that" said macca with a smile. we both followed her with our eyes as she walked around the stage and sat with another customer. i made a mental note of her number for another night perhaps. all of the girls were easy on the eye but i didn't see any other standout options. it's funny, back in england i would crawl over hot coals to talk to any of these girls, but when in pattaya there are so many to choose from it's easy to become blase. macca and i were impressed by an average looking girl who danced with tremendous effort and enthusiasm. it was hypnotic to watch her slim body in perfect rhythm to the music. it suggested that she might be a tiger in bed.

next we touched down at airport, located back on walking street itself. it's a cosy bar and 10 girls were dancing with a few more writhing about in a jacuzzi. the place was crowded with customers and there wasn't anywhere to sit, so a couple of cute girls vacated their seats next to the door. i like these intimate bars as you are up-close-and-personal with the girls. macca had warned me that the standard of girls was down this year and he was right, the talent was surprisingly average. there were of course some pretty girls, including three fresh-faced honeys who were trying to sell tequila shots to customers. one of them pretended to cry when i told her that i didn't want one but then ruined our fledgling romance by asking "you buy me drink?" it's a big turn-off for me when a girl asks for a drink before names are even exchanged!

one problem with airport is that the girls dance in the same spot for too long. we were sat next to the exit so we only had a good view of the girl at the end of the stage. she was a tall 7/10 wearing fashionably thick glasses and she danced in front of us for 20 minutes, facing the opposite direction. macca and i decided to pay our bill but then two interesting things happened. firstly a topless young cutie sat on my lap who had an impressive pair of tits."i go now" i told her but at that moment there was a dance-shift change and a fantastic girl got up to dance right in front of us. she had a fresh-faced appeal and, wow, what a mover! macca and i watched mesmerised as she gyrated sexily around a chrome pole. she was topless and had a small pair of tits and her nipples were erect as she was dancing beneath the air-con (a trick bars use to get their girls to dance with more gusto!). she wasn't wearing a badge, so on my way out i picked up her bra that lay discarded on the stage. there was no number on that either."my name nom" she told me and i replied "you suay mak mak". i imagine myself to be like james bond when i deliver lines with such devastating effect.

i was having a great night. we had been to five bars and i'd met some fabulous girls. the prettiest so far were 15 from happy, nom from airport and the moody waitress from beach (who was eliminated from contention due to her lousy attitude). my favourite girl of the night though was tom, the cutie i bought a drink for in beach club. she was cute as a button and seemed lots of fun. it occurred to me that she was the only girl i'd bought a lady-drink for so far tonight.

at midnight we entered sensations, supposedly one of the best bars in pattaya. like all bars tonight, it was packed with customers. there were two rectangular stages with 10 girls crowded on each. the quality of girls was excellent. as i looked for somewhere to sit, a girl grabbed me and said "i love you" somewhat forwardly. she had a sexy body but the face of a hardened pro. i continued walking. five minutes later i noticed that she was sat astride another customer, pulling his face in to her tits. she'd moved on quickly! in front of the stage were several smartly dressed young waitresses and macca took a shine to one of them. he pretended to straighten the small tie she was wearing and once she sussed out his sense of humour, she smiled. it was the type of smile that could stop wars. she wasn't a sex-bomb or stunner like the girls on stage, she was just a very sweet, very pretty girl. she wore number 99. macca must have been in love because it was the quickest i've ever seen him offer a girl a drink.

as macca got to know her, i concluded that sensations definitely lives up to its name. there were lots of pretty girls but sadly, as is often the case, most of my favourites were with customers. timing and good luck play a key part in any gogo crawl. as i looked around, a 4/10 sat across my lap. i knew i wouldn't be bar-fining her but it's nice to have a nubile young body sat on your lap.

macca tapped me on the shoulder and told me that he really liked the waitress but when he asked about her bar-fine, she told him that she doesn't go with customers. she explained that when she first worked at the bar she was a dancer but she hated it and spent an hour each night under the shower because she "felt dirty". after just one week she asked whether she could be a waitress instead. however, macca told me that he was going to try to tempt her with a high offer and he wanted my advice. fortunately i had researched the place so i told him that 2000 was the correct short-time price although girls would ask for 2500. he gave it some thought and offered her a very generous 3000. she was tempted but stuck to her guns and said "sorry, no go with customers". she seemed apologetic but macca respected her decision. she'd tried her hand at pay-for-play and it wasn't for her so now she was just trying to make an honest buck working as a waitress. good luck to her.

we went to what's up next, located on soi 15 off walking street. macca said he had visited it earlier in his trip and it had some of the "prettiest girls in pattaya". there was a horror theme and ten girls were dancing onstage to michael jackson's 'thriller'. the waitresses were wearing scary masks and one escorted me to a stool next to the stage. she kissed me on the lips through her mask, which i found quite exciting as i didn't know what her face looked like.

the quality of girls was outstanding but sadly they didn't wear numbers so i couldn't make a note of my favourites. as i was looking around a 9/10 sat on my knee. her name was pom and she was a very cute 19 year old. i bought her a lady-drink and the more we chatted, the more i liked her. she had the looks, the body and was fun and flirty as well, definite bar-fine material. macca pointed out a pretty girl he had bar-fined before from a different bar. he told me that she had not looked a day over 18 and now, well, she still didn't look a day over 18. she spotted him, walked over and sat on his knee. the music changed and a white leather couch was carried on to the stage on which three topless girls writhed about and simulated sex acts. it was fun to watch from our front-row seats. one part was quite raunchy so i covered pom's eyes which made her laugh. on the other stage a blond with big tits pole-danced, spinning around and hanging upside while doing mid-air splits. i like bars that put on a bit of a show.

the bar-fine in what's up is 1000 baht and macca's girl quoted him a hefty 3000 for short-time. i wasn't surprised as my research revealed this to be one of the most expensive bars in pattaya. i didn't plan on taking a girl tonight but i asked pom how much as she would be a good option for another night. she quoted me 3000 for short-time as well. i'm pretty sure that could be talked down to 2500 but that is still 500 baht too expensive. it's a shame because what's up is in the top 5 bars in pattaya in terms of quality of girls.

by now the time was 1. 30am and it was my turn to choose bar. i opted for baccara as its namesake in bangkok has a reputation for having some of the prettiest girls. it's a big bar with two floors and although it can be difficult to get a place downstairs, we managed to fluke two leather seats next to the stage. we sat back and admired the view. 15 girls were dancing and from my vantage point i could see through the glass ceiling that some of the girls on the floor above weren't wearing underwear. the standout girl had a japanese look with pale skin and long curly blond hair. she was exactly the type that japanese customers drool over, undoubtedly one of the most popular girls in the club. just like baccara in bangkok, the girls looked very serious and there was minimal interaction with customers. thankfully the atmosphere picked up when a man threw a wad of 20 baht notes on to the stage. they fluttered to the floor and the girls screamed and scrambled around, picking up the loose notes. suddenly the girls were having fun. a 20 baht note fluttered below my stool so i picked it up and passed it to one of the girls on stage who gave me a big smile.

by now it was late and i felt under the weather, a combination of too much alcohol and an upset stomach. i told macca it was time for me to go and thanked him for a great night. it was nearly 2am and the number of girls on beach road had thinned out. i'd guess there were about 30 girls, most of whom were rather well-worn.

although i hadn't taken a girl, i'd had a great night. it was good to see macca again and i'd been impressed with walking street. the talent levels were high and i had several strong candidates for another time perhaps. bar-fine prices on walking street might be expensive but that was off-set by the fact that we weren't pressured in to buying lady-drinks. furthermore because there are so many gogo bars in competition on walking street, there are plenty of happy-hours to be found. it was a relatively cheap night given the amount of naked flesh we had seen!

i got back to lek hotel and fell asleep as soon as my head hit the pillow.

You're my hero. Who needs lonely planet or trip advisor when you are out there blazing trails and writing with such aplomb. Bravo. GT

Fabulous reports Sir L!

You manage to provide useful info even when you don't hook up for the night.

I will definitely be by to take a look at those stunners you I'd at various Gogos during my upcoming visit in a couple of weeks.

I'll also try and report my findings. Though it will be difficult to match your reports.

You have indeed sent the bar high you "Handsum mann" you!

Stay horny my friend...

Uncle V

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[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1555199]As she was rinsing the suds off afterwards, I felt a sharp pain. After a close examination of my erection, I realised that Taw's soapy massage had been so intense and vigorous I had a small friction burn! Presumably it was caused because there weren't enough suds on the mattress when I lay down. Coincidentally the only other time this has happened was my first ever visit to Sabai Dee with a girl called Atom. Soapies should come with a health warning![/QUOTE]Any extended rubbing with soap, whether the usual brief hand-job in a normal soapy in the bath-tub or the body-to-body rubbing in one of these unusual ones that have a mattress, is hazardous to your skin. It feels good at first, but one should allow no more than a perhaps thirty seconds of such rubbing. Oil is better for the skin, soap is highly damaging.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1556182][/QUOTE]Another great report, and I can sympathise with the experience of spending an evening looking for the right girl, only to realise that the clock is ticking away, you have to make a decision, and suddenly all the best girls have disappeared! And of course should you decide to bar-fine a 'second tier' girl, a stunner will walk around the corner. My plan is always to be tucked up in bed by midnight, so if thinks go a little awry, there is time to put things right. In this case I guess you should have trusted your instincts and avoided a girl who had previously been stand-offish for whatever reason.

I had a slightly less bad experience with a girl who told me that she didn't like the job while we were on the job, as it were. I had of course realised it by then. Both before and after she was perfectly pleasant, even offering me her phone number after. I think I forgot to write it down.

(And I hate to be picky, but 3,600 baht at Devil's Den gets you 90 minutes. 2 hours costs 4,400 baht).

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1556182]The time was 3. 30am and I didn't feel in the mood to go and find another girl. It neatly summed up my time in Pattaya so far. Although I'd fucked a girl in Dream Teen earlier, this was my second girl-free night in a row. It was about time this trip started delivering me some quality girls.[/QUOTE]When I walk around to find a companion for the night, I take the first one that grabs my attention. Yes, there might be a better one 5 minutes in the future or just around the corner. But then again, there might not and one cannot calculate the probabilities of improving your hand. Mongering is not a poker game!

It helps to define beforehand what is your fancy for that night. Say I want someone with tanned skin, long hair, small tits but big nipples and trimmed pussy (I mainly go to agogo clubs where the girls dance nude, so I can check it all out). If after visiting one or two establishments I did not find anyone who ticks all boxes of my requirements I will accept someone with all but one of the requirements, and so on until you find one. Usually, it doesn't take long to find someone. Of course, next to these requirements, she must have a nice personality, smile at me and willing to kiss (DFK if possible, you can test that already in the club or bar).

This system is almost a sure-fire method of finding someone and not getting caught on the horns of the dilemma of "this one or perhaps there is a better one in the next bar".

Hi Fellow members,

Want some advice about the best escort agency in Pattaya.

Being average in looks and build, and also to save time in choosing, I am looking for more DFK kind gals.

Any help would be appreciated. Shall be visiting soon to Pattaya and reporting back.

Cheers

Has Devil's Den changed its number?

I tried calling it several times but can't get through.

[QUOTE=Lord Necros; 1556528]Has Devil's Den changed its number?

I tried calling it several times but can't get through.[/QUOTE]Maybe they closed for a few days for Songkran.

[QUOTE=Lord Necros; 1556528]Has Devil's Den changed its number?

I tried calling it several times but can't get through.[/QUOTE]They closed for Songkran

You and your buddy cover a lot of ground. And as always great info. Many thanks!

I wouldn't feel too bad about the starfish. Everyone runs into one form time to time. It usually happens when you are forced to go against your better judgment towards the end of the evening. Has happened to me a couple of times. Though the girl was never as nightmarish as the one you describe.

I think you may have passed up a few sure things earlier in the evening. A bird in the hand.

I'm sure your luck will turn and that we'll be enjoying hearing about your exploits soon.

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle V

[QUOTE=LazyLad; 1556490]Hi Fellow members,

Want some advice about the best escort agency in Pattaya.

Being average in looks and build, and also to save time in choosing, I am looking for more DFK kind gals.

Any help would be appreciated. Shall be visiting soon to Pattaya and reporting back.

Cheers[/QUOTE]With Little flaming intentions, your nick says it all. Why one goes to Pattaya and then orders a room service from an escort agency. In Pattaya in 30 minutes you can audition quite a few girls, and at least you know in flesh what you take back to your room. And negotiate a decent price. Why call an agency to possibly get the same girl, without choosing her, or a totally different one (worst) at triple price?

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1556672]With Little flaming intentions, your nick says it all. Why one goes to Pattaya and then orders a room service from an escort agency. In Pattaya in 30 minutes you can audition quite a few girls, and at least you know in flesh what you take back to your room. And negotiate a decent price. Why call an agency to possibly get the same girl, without choosing her, or a totally different one (worst) at triple price?[/QUOTE]If you audition girls on Soi 6 over a beer you can already check that part before buying. Burp.

Last time about a month ago I took a nice dancer from fun seeker dance bar, had only be there 3 weeeks (never met one that had been in pats more than 2 months-ha!) in her case it might have been true since she had that enthusiasm and liveliness that goes away later on. I took her then to a bar across the street and since she got tipsy already back to the room for round one, then a quick meal and to a few bars on walking street, namely x zone, windmill and babydolls and what ever audience participation bars I could think of. Drinks everywhere and then some. Things got a bit hazy so what happened later I am not sure anymore. The next day I gave her a thousand, since she had said up to you at the bar fining ceremony and I consider the tour part of the payment. She was very happy with that when she staggered away. It was also a very nice experience for me as the dynamic when you come in with a girl on you arm into he bars is very different, I bought some drinks for girls there too and fooled around with them quite a bit.

On another note I checked out the street where loiltas is in Pattaya since I noticed from the van when arriving a bunch of great inexpensive massage shops, like 200 / hr. Basically it is the extension of Soi Diana. I had a nice oil massage from a girl Mon at Mon massage, if I remember I right, half Khmer, not mon the owner, and since I liked the massage I came back the next day and when she asked about extras again I tugged a little on her shirt and everything came right off like in a magic trick! So after a bit of getting to know each other I put her on her back in the cubicle for a quick romp. What I liked was her attitude, like showering together and actually giving the full massage too. Since we had never talked money and I did not want to spoil it I gave her also a thousand for the whole thing on the way out and she was all smiles.

And yes. They both were nice kissers high and low, which was the whole point, wasn't it?

Pattaya, Day 14, Sunday.

Urgh, what a terrible end to last night. The lessen learnt is that you should always trust your instincts when picking a girl. If you think she's bad news or is going to be a bad performer, you are probably right. Find another girl, there are plenty to choose from. Although my time in Pattaya wasn't going to planned so far, there was no point dwelling on it. Today I set myself the goal of fucking two girls mimimum, perhaps even three. That would definitely set me back on the right track. I'd have a soapy in the afternoon, a quickie on soi 6 early evening and then see where the night took me.

After a leisurely afternoon it was time for a soapy massage. I decided to go to Honey, located just a short walk from my hotel on Soi 11. I arrived at 4. 30pm but the place looked closed for renovations. Just as I was contemplating looking elsewhere, a Thai man pointed down the side of the building. It was a different entrance to last year and I thought it was comical to see an ATM in the doorway.

The fishbowl was an awkward L-shape with pillars obstructing a clear view of the talent on offer. From my seat I could only see half of the girls. The papasan informed me that girls with red badges cost 2000 and those with blue badges cost 2500. There were 35 girls and I was highly impressed by the quality. Number 177 was the whole package, a pretty girl with a curvy body, but she was picked almost immediately by another customer. Number 100 was also very easy on the eye but she too was quickly summoned by an Asian customer. She had blond curly hair and her tits wobbled suggestively as she walked past. You've got to act quickly if you see a girl you like in places like this! I refocused my attention on the remaining girls. There was several strong candidates but the prettiest was a girl with light brown hair who was sat with her back to me. She kept leaning around the corner and smiling sweetly, so I figured that she would be the perfect antidote to my bad experience last night. I informed the papasan of my choice (number 12) and paid 2500 at the cashiers desk. When the girl came to stand next to me my jaw almost hit the floor. She was prettier up close and had big tits, perfect for my soapy needs. Although she wore high-heels, she was below my shoulder level."My name Pum" she said before taking my hand and leading me to the elevator.

The room was excellent. Half was dominated by a big double bed and the other half had a large bath and a tiled area where there was an inflatable mattress propped up against the wall. There was a large flatscreen TV at the end of the bed but as often seems to be the case in soapies, the only thing it showed was a snowstorm. Pum put some music on her phone and asked me to lie on the bed, where she proceeded to give me an excellent oil massage. It lasted for ten minutes and I assumed it meant I wouldn't be getting a soapy massage but I was wrong. She led me to the bath and carefully lathered and rinsed me as I admired her tits. They were fake but her nipples were begging to be sucked. I guessed she was mid-twenties due to her flawless complexion but was amazed when she told me that she was 34.

As always the soapy massage was ten minutes of intense pleasure. You can't beat having a gorgeous girl slipping and sliding her soapy body all over yours. She had a few neat tricks, including placing her feet either side of my dick and giving me a foot-wank, something I'd never experienced before. When she finished I offered to give her a soapy massage, which made her laugh. I instructed her to lie on her front but it's not as easy as it looks. I slid up and down a few times but lost grip and slid off the mattress on to the floor. I was lucky I didn't get another soapy-related injury!

Sadly the sex was a big let-down. She wouldn't kiss and said rather coldly "condom, blowjob" when we got on the bed. The blow-job only lasted 30 seconds before she sat up, lifted one leg across me and lowered herself on. She rode me as I fondled her big tits but when I leaned up to try and suck her nipples, she pulled away, smiling. When I tried to kiss her on the neck she did exactly the same. Although we were fucking she was determined to prohibit any form of intimacy at all! Even worse, when I was fucking her in mish she held her fist in front of her pussy so I couldn't go all the way in. I know some girls worry their pussy might get stretched by falang but this was ridiculous, I was probably just a few inches in. Thankfully things picked up. I fucked her from behind while holding her dangling tits and then she rode me to a climax. Within seconds of finishing she said "okay, shower". She was obviously keen to get back in to the fishbowl as quickly as possible.

As we showered and then got changed, I tried making conversation but her answers were rather cold. She was a different girl to the smily one I had seen in the fishbowl. Unsurprisingly she refused to pose for photos. I decided to tip her because although she was mechanical and refused to kiss, she gave me a great soapy, a bonus oil massage and didn't refuse any of the sex positions I wanted to try. I felt 300 baht was fair but she pointed at the notes in my wallet and said "1000 baht". I've never tipped a girl that much in my life, even the creme de le creme who deliver the girlfriend experience, so I stuck to my guns and handed her three hundred baht notes."1000" she said again, with a smile and a flutter of her eye-lashes. She was an actress who could turn on the charm at will."1000 not a lot of money" she said but I put my wallet away and her cool demeanour returned once again.

She was a fabulous looking girl with a sensational figure but she was a candidate for the most commercial and mechanical girl I've ever been with in Asia. On the bright side she was a 'trophy fuck' and I'd remember those breasts for a long time.

The night before Macca told me that a few days ago he was having his hair cut when he noticed a sign for 'ear clean'. He gave it a go and to quote him "it was the best 80 baht I've ever spent!" I decided to try it myself. It was the 2nd barber on the left down Soi 25, the street next to Oasis agogo. An old woman instructed me to lean back on a reclining seat and ominously placed a towel over my eyes. Then followed 20 minutes akin to medieval torture as she poked sharp implements in my ears. Whenever I winced the old lady laughed like an evil villain.

It was 7:45pm and time for a quickie on Soi 6 before dinner. As always I went on a recee from the top of the street down to the bottom, scouring the talent. Sometimes it can be hit and miss but on this occasion I was impressed and spotted four strong candidates. Thai Rose at the top of the street always has some pretty girls outside and I saw a cutie with braces on her teeth outside Red Point Bar. The best looker was a young specimen with long curly hair outside SMOKE AND KISSES. She had pale skin and looked as though she had Chinese or Japanese blood. She was sat on a stool outside and seemed surprised when I approached, giving me a shy smile. I didn't need to say a word, she stood up and led me through a curtain in to the bar. There was no-one else in there and we sat down in the corner with our drinks. She was exceptionally cute and she told me that her name was Lily and she was just 18 years old. She was one of those Soi 6 gems that could easily work at any of the gogo bars. Although she looked very sweet, she kissed me on the lips as she caressed my dick in to life. How could I resist? The room charge is 300 baht and her price was 1000. The days of good lookers charging 700 baht on Soi 6 have gone.

The room was fairly typical of Soi 6. It had a large double bed with a mirror alongside it, overlooked by an old aircon unit. Apart from a chair and a few coat-hooks that was about it. There was a small, basic bathroom where we both showered. She seemed quite shy and timid so I expected her to be a starfish but she surprised me. We lay next to each other on the bed and she was a great kisser, expertly using her tongue and sucking my lips suggestively. She leaned down and gave me a nice, slurpy blowjob that belied her tender years.

The sex was excellent too. When she was on her back, ankles on my shoulders, I pulled my dick out of her pussy and teased her asshole with it. She didn't resist and played with herself and squeezed her small tits as I pushed in to her. She was extraordinarily tight. I pushed harder and then suddenly my dick slid in to her and she groaned. At first I grinded slowly in to her but a few minutes later I was pounding her ass as quickly as I could, the bed creaking with each thrust. She rode me reverse cowgirl and then I pulled her back so that she was lying on top of me and her head was next to mine. I grabbed her hips and thrust up into her as deep as I could as she arched her back and kissed me over her shoulder. It was hot and sweaty, fast and frantic sex. I shot my load and then we lay next to each other on the bed for ten minutes, cooling down under the aircon. She kissed me and somewhat forwardly whispered "I love you".

We showered, got changed and she happily posed for photos. I took her phone number and gave her a 300 baht tip which she was delighted with. She deserved it and I left happy because finally I'd had a great session with a great girl.

As I walked down Soi 6 towards Beach Road, an old woman grabbed my arm outside the last bar on the right and gestured at two average girls sat on stools."Two girl. 500 baht" she said. One looked about 40 but the other was in her twenties and was smiling in my direction. They weren't beauty queens (a 2/10 and a 5/10 respectively) but you can't argue with that price for a threesome! Perhaps if I was drunk and desperate I might have considered it but they had caught me at the wrong time. I'd just been with a girl and needed to eat. I ate at Subway and pondered the night ahead. I'd be flying solo because Macca wanted to watch a rugby match on TV. I knew tomorrow we'd be going on a gogo crawl around Soi LK Metro so I decided to take it easy and have a relaxed night. I didn't feel any pressure to meet a girl because I'd already fucked two girls in the day.

I went to Kannika beer-bar on 2nd Road to meet Poum, the girl I'd spotted a few days ago who I bar-fined on my cherry trip to Pattaya. There were six average girls at the bar and two older customers. Poum was sat at the front corner of the bar so I sat opposite her and ordered a drink. There was hint of regonition in her eyes but I could tell that she couldn't remember me. When I told her we had met her five years earlier she said "sorry, I not remember". I didn't expect her to as she must have met thousands of customers at the bar since. I bought her a drink and enjoyed her company. She was now 35 but still had the same radiant smile. She spoke excellent English, largely due to the fact that she married an English man when she was 20 and lived in England for a year before they broke up. She must have been a sensational looker back then. We had a game of Jenga for old times sake and just like five years earlier, she was unbeatable. If there was a Jenga world championship, a Thai bar-girl would win every year.

Where next? I decided to meet up with Macca to watch the rugby. On my way I spotted Sar perched on a stool at DAOKAI Bar again. She was sat on her own and looked as miserable as the night before. Despite what had happened last night I considered offering her a drink as a gesture of goodwill but she seemed unpredictable and I'd probably get it thrown back in my face. I gave her a wide berth and walked through the rest of the beer-bars. It was 10. 30pm and I saw a few sweet girls but none that persuaded me to stop for a drink. I turned on to Soi Buakhao and dodged the ladyboys outside Pook Bar. The cutie with braces on her teeth at Jony Bar again smiled to me again as I walked past.

I was starting to like the Soi Buakhao area. It's very popular with ex-pats, Europeans and Aussies and there are lots of western style pubs, sports bars and places to eat. In future trips I may base myself there. I like the atmosphere of the place and it's cheaper too. Macca was paying 400 baht a night less for his hotel than I was which is the cost of two or three lady-drinks! Although I like Lek Hotel, I pay extra for a pool I never use and on this trip particularly I feel the odd one out. The place is very popular with Russian's and, I have to say, they are a charmless bunch. Has anyone ever seen a Russian man smile? I held a door open for one yesterday, a body-builder type with hair like Michael Bolton, and he didn't acknowledge me. Then I shared a lift with two more, both wearing Singha vests and also with mullets, who conversed in a series of monosyllabic grunts.

Macca was sat on his own at WITHERSPOONS, absorbed in the rugby. I pulled up a stool and ordered a draft beer for 75 baht. The waitress wore glasses and was good fun. She pretended to understand the rules of rugby but I suspect that she was getting mixed up with football. Macca told me that Witherspoons "has the best looking girl in Pattaya" and sure enough when I saw her collecting empty glasses she was an absolute peach. She wasn't wearing make-up but she had a truly beautiful face. Macca told me that he had enquired about her availability to the manager but had been told that she was out-of-bounds. Macca figured this meant she was under-age but I thought she looked late teens so was probably just a 'good girl' looking to make an honest living as a waitress.

After the rugby I was keen to hear Macca's opinion on how I had handled the Sar situation the night before. I told him the full story and he agreed that I was within my rights to ask for the bar-fine back."She probably didn't want you to go back to the bar with her otherwise she'd lose face" he suggested. He also said he respected me for not fucking her when she obviously didn't want to.

Macca had been drinking all evening so decided to go to bed. When he left an older Thai woman walked up to me who was a 1/10."Where you from?" she asked and when I told her she started talking to me about English football. To be fair, she knew her stuff. She invited me to sit with her and her 2/10 friend but I declined. Perhaps they were freelancers hoping to snare a drunken sports fan on the full-time whistle? Probably not a bad tactic actually, it's not difficult to imagine a scenario when a drunken guy wants to fuck to forget a bad defeat or celebrate a good win!

The time was 1.45am so I decided to call it a night. I'd had several beers and felt happily buzzed. I had already taken two girls today so didn't feel any pressure to add a third.

However, I didn't take the shortest route back to my hotel. I walked along Soi Buakhao, hoping to see the cute girl with braces at Jony Bar, but she wasn't there. I then cut through the Night Bazaar beer-bars. I was hoping to chance upon a 9 or 10/10 to make me change my mind about not taking a girl but I didn't see any. On 2nd Road I turned left and as I passed Kannika Poum gave me a friendly wave.

Sir Lancelot,

I have been following your reports for a long time and undoubtedly you could consider being an author as a future career option (perhaps you already are, judging by the fine quality of reports!). Keep up the good work.

I'm still making my foray in the mongering world by making a newbie trip to Bangkok in July. Since it's going to be my 1st trip any tips, suggestions would be welcome. In your opinion, would Pattaya be better than Bangkok? Please comment.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1557278]Pattaya, Day 14, Sunday.

Urgh, what a terrible end to last night. The lessen learnt is that you should always trust your instincts when picking a girl. If you think she's bad news or is going to be a bad performer, you are probably right. Find another girl, there are plenty to choose from. Although my time in Pattaya wasn't going to planned so far, there was no point dwelling on it. Today I set myself the goal of fucking two girls mimimum, perhaps even three. That would definitely set me back on the right track. I'd have a soapy in the afternoon, a quickie on soi 6 early evening and then see where the night took me.

After a leisurely afternoon it was time for a soapy massage. I decided to go to Honey, located just a short walk from my hotel on Soi 11. I arrived at 4. 30pm but the place looked closed for renovations. Just as I was contemplating looking elsewhere, a Thai man pointed down the side of the building. It was a different entrance to last year and I thought it was comical to see an ATM in the doorway...[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=KingUncle;1557498]I'm still making my foray in the mongering world by making a newbie trip to Bangkok in July. Since it's going to be my 1st trip any tips, suggestions would be welcome. In your opinion, would Pattaya be better than Bangkok? Please comment.[/QUOTE]"Better" is very subjective. We all have our own ideas of "better". I like Bangkok more than Pattaya as there are much more other things to see and do in Bangkok than in Pattaya. But I had great fun in Pattaya on my first trip there too. Actually I rented a studio in Jomtien (which is a suburb of Pattaya, less busy with a better beach, but still only a short hop on a songthaew away from Pattaya) and although I visited the Walking Street agogo clubs, walked Beach Road and crawled Soi 6 up and down a few times, I finally pulled my companions from a beerbar in Jomtien ("Country Road III" if I remember well). Perhaps it was the abundance of the sex on offer in Pattaya that made it less attractive? Pattaya is really made for quick consumption, ST is the norm and I am more of an LT-man. Jomtien is more laid back, there is less hustle.

[QUOTE=KingUncle; 1557498]Sir Lancelot, I have been following your reports for a long time and undoubtedly you could consider being an author as a future career option (perhaps you already are, judging by the fine quality of reports!). Keep up the good work.

I'm still making my foray in the mongering world by making a newbie trip to Bangkok in July. Since it's going to be my 1st trip any tips, suggestions would be welcome. In your opinion, would Pattaya be better than Bangkok? Please comment.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'm really glad you enjoy my diaries. I'm still waiting for a publisher to help fund my extravagant lifestyle!

The short answer to your question is that I'd recommend both. Bangkok and Pattaya are just two hours away by road so you could easily split your trip between the two. I'm assuming you'll be flying in to Bangkok, so spend at least three days there. Stay in the Nana area and spend at least one night visiting the gogo bars in Nana Plaza (Rainbow 4 and Mandarin are my favourites) and one night visiting the gogo bars on Soi Cowboy (Shark and Baccara are the best here in my opinion). During the day you might like to go to a massage parlour. If so Nataree has the largest amount of young, pretty girls but Mango and Annie's always get good reviews on this forum too. I talked at length about these places in my diary on the Bangkok pages about two weeks ago. Bangkok is great for regular tourists too so if it's your first trip to Thailand you might like to consider the floating markets, the Grand Palace, w a t Po, w a t Arun* and Ayutthaya.

To get to Pattaya you can either take a taxi for about 1200 baht or a bus from Ekkamai (just a few stops on the skytrain from Nana). I'd recommend staying in the Soi Buakhao area. Like Bangkok it has lots of gogo bars and massage parlours but where it stands apart are the sheer abundance of beer-bars. Here you can pick up nice girls for much cheaper. Walking Street is a must-see for a first-timer. You'll read a lot of people on this forum, usually older ex-pats who actually live in Pattaya, dismiss Walking Street because it's expensive but in my opinion they miss the point. A newcomer will have the time of his life here (far more enjoyable than trawling the bargain basements of Beach Road!). Of course there are better value girls to be found elsewhere but WS is exciting, it's loud, it's colourful and there are pretty girls everywhere you look. The gogo bars Sensations, Happy, Beach and Airport are my favourites, although I recommend getting a beer at the bar outside Alcatraz and watching the world go by. It's probably the best people-watching spot on the planet! Walking Street also has various nightclubs where off-duty gogo girls and massage girls can be procured for a hefty discount. The Soi LK Metro area is also very popular for gogo bars, which I wrote about in my last post. Pattaya is fantastic for soapy massages (Honey 1, Honey 2 and Sabai Dee are the places to go) and if you're feeling adventurous Devil's Den is where you can pick up a threesome (Eden's in Bangkok also offers this service but the girls aren't as nice). On the down side, Pattaya does not have a lot to do for the regular tourist. It has a beach but it's very busy. Far nicer beaches can be found elsewhere in Thailand, especially Krabi.

* it is spelt w a t (all one word) but this forum always auto-corrects to 'what'!

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1557670][/QUOTE]Lance, your reports are the best! Thanks for the photos, too.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1557278]Pattaya, Day 14, Sunday.

Sadly the sex was a big let-down. She wouldn't kiss and said rather coldly "condom, blowjob" when we got on the bed. The blow-job only lasted 30 seconds before she sat up, lifted one leg across me and lowered herself on. She rode me as I fondled her big tits but when I leaned up to try and suck her nipples, she pulled away, smiling. When I tried to kiss her on the neck she did exactly the same. Although we were fucking she was determined to prohibit any form of intimacy at all! Even worse, when I was fucking her in mish she held her fist in front of her pussy so I couldn't go all the way in. I know some girls worry their pussy might get stretched by falang but this was ridiculous, I was probably just a few inches in. Thankfully things picked up. I fucked her from behind while holding her dangling tits and then she rode me to a climax. Within seconds of finishing she said "okay, shower". She was obviously keen to get back in to the fishbowl as quickly as possible.[/QUOTE]While I enjoy your well written reports like anybody else here I am surprised that you state:

Far more enjoyable than trawling the bargain basements of Beach Road.

I go there on a regular basis but the scene that you describe so well above with the massage girl has never happened to me with BG's. Never mind that for the money you spent on that girl I could have 1/2 dozen of them at the same time one after another. One difference for me is that I can interact / interview them before booking. That's why I seldomly pick from fishbowls. Thank you for the pointers to lk metro gogo's I will visit them.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1557756]Walking Street is a must-see for a first-timer. You'll read a lot of people on this forum, usually older ex-pats who actually live in Pattaya, dismiss Walking Street because it's expensive but in my opinion they miss the point. A newcomer will have the time of his life here (far more enjoyable than trawling the bargain basements of Beach Road!). Of course there are better value girls to be found elsewhere but WS is exciting, it's loud, it's colourful and there are pretty girls everywhere you look. The gogo bars Sensations, Happy, Beach and Airport are my favourites, although I recommend getting a beer at the bar outside Alcatraz and watching the world go by. It's probably the best people-watching spot on the planet! Walking Street also has various nightclubs where off-duty gogo girls and massage girls can be procured for a hefty discount. The Soi LK Metro area is also very popular for gogo bars, which I wrote about in my last post. Pattaya is fantastic for soapy massages (Honey 1, Honey 2 and Sabai Dee are the places to go) and if you're feeling adventurous Devil's Den is where you can pick up a threesome (Eden's in Bangkok also offers this service but the girls aren't as nice). On the down side, Pattaya does not have a lot to do for the regular tourist. It has a beach but it's very busy. Far nicer beaches can be found elsewhere in Thailand, especially Krabi.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I just came back from Thailand (Bangkok and Pattaya) for the first time and I must agree with you 1000% I read many reports saying to avoid Walking Street. I am so glad I didn't. I started with gogos in Bangkok so I did the same in Pattaya. Until I discovered the clubs on Walking Street and never looked back. I was getting LT for 2000 Baht. After negotiating down for 3000 Baht. They didn't blink an eye in agreeing which means next time I will go down even further. That's about $60. The cheapest I ever got for LT anywhere in the world (mostly mongering in South America) so I wasn't complaining. I still haven't really explored the Beach Road scene yet, but I will have to. I went to Sabai Dee. Great experience but a bit on the expensive side. Plus I saw how they jack up prices for some foreigners (like some Indians). I'm Asian (American) so they charged me 500 less.

I will be back. Even if it is a 20+ hour flight for me!

[QUOTE=Islandboy54; 1558001]While I enjoy your well written reports like anybody else here I am surprised that you state:

Far more enjoyable than trawling the bargain basements of Beach Road.[/QUOTE]I should expand on what I meant. I'm not doubting the value of Beach Road or the fact the girls will deliver better sex. In fact in my diary I've stated that gems can be found and I've also written somewhere else that if I was an ex-pat for example, I'd be a regular.

But what people often overlook it seems is the 'thrill of the chase'. On Beach Road you walk along, chat to a few girls and then take your favourite back to your hotel and fuck her. That's it, night over. It's all about the sex. But when you're on holiday, especially if it's your first time, you want to party. Any first-timer will be like a kid in a candy shop on Walking Steet, people-watching, seeing the bright lights, visiting lots of bars, drinking cheap (ish) beer, admiring hundreds of beautiful semi-naked girls before picking a young hottie to fuck. Yes it's expensive and of course better value can be found elsewhere but it's exciting. I still get a buzz out of it, even now. That thrill just isn't replicated anywhere else in Pattaya.

First of all, thanks for the great recent reports (especially to SirLancelot). Great reading and updates for me, as I'm headed to Patts for the second time in the beginning of May.

Having tried most massage-categories that Patts has to offer (Soapy, Oil-massage etc.) , I'm missing the tantra-massage. And haven't been able to google any place in Pattaya that is boasting of that service. Or even mentions it. As a keen reader of the Patts-threads here in ISG (and another forum) I have noticed that tantra (or anything closely like it) is hardly ever mentioned. I'm European. And perphaps it's just a thing where I live, that massages can be "tantra"-massages too. However. If anyone in here should know of a place in Patts where you can get that kind of service (not neccesarily called tantra. But also "tantra-like") , I would highly appreciate a hint.

Note: To avoid any discussion about what tantra is. Here is what I mean. : A massage that mainly consists of erotic stimulation and caressing (all over the body) instead of a massage that mainly / partly is focusing on relieving tension of muscles.

Hope for reply.

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Thanks a lot for the valuable inputs, appreciate the valuable pointers! Since its my first visit, I would also like to do the tourist bit. Hope the monsoon in the months of June. July does not play a spoilsport.

Kinguncle

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1557756]Thanks, I'm really glad you enjoy my diaries. I'm still waiting for a publisher to help fund my extravagant lifestyle!

The short answer to your question is that I'd recommend both. Bangkok and Pattaya are just two hours away by road so you could easily split your trip between the two. I'm assuming you'll be flying in to Bangkok, so spend at least three days there. Stay in the Nana area and spend at least one night visiting the gogo bars in Nana Plaza (Rainbow 4 and Mandarin are my favourites) and one night visiting the gogo bars on Soi Cowboy (Shark and Baccara are the best here in my opinion). During the day you might like to go to a massage parlour. If so Nataree has the largest amount of young, pretty girls but Mango and Annie's always get good reviews on this forum too. I talked at length about these places in my diary on the Bangkok pages about two weeks ago. Bangkok is great for regular tourists too so if it's your first trip to Thailand you might like to consider the floating markets, the Grand Palace, w a t Po, w a t Arun* and Ayutthaya.

To get to Pattaya you can either take a taxi for about 1200 baht or a bus from Ekkamai (just a few stops on the skytrain from Nana)...[/QUOTE]

Great reports. Most times reports with individual girls' names aren't too helpful as the girls move on after a year or so. But in this case I am heading out to Pattaya in a few days, and may well follow up with some of your recommendations. Many thanks!

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[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1558642][/QUOTE]Keep the stories coming! I'll be there in about 5 days!

I like Soi 6 for the fact that you can always find a girl there that takes your fancy. But it does tend to close up fairly early compared with other areas. In fact I think it is not worth visiting after about 12pm as all the best girls will either have made their money for the day, are off with a customer, or are too drunk to stand.

[Quote]One take-away from our inaugural threesome is that even if the girl is P4P, she wants the girl to be into it, to enjoy being with a guy and a girl.[/Quote]

@Ira Johnson: While in Pattaya, you should try the Devil's Den with your girlfriend. Their girls are (allegedly) "genuinely bisexual".

[url]http://www.devilsdenpattaya.com/In-Call.php[/url]

You may find better value for your money elsewhere, but it's probably the easiest way to get what you are looking for in Pattaya.

Sir Lance,

I am really enjoying your posts. I am new to this forum. I will be there on Saturday (6th Trip) would be a pleasure meeting you if you are there and up for it.

Soi6 is dead after 2 generally so the better plan for you was to head to WS (Insomnia or Ibar) to find a girl. Even if you not into that scene, the chances of a better night would have been more.

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I know there's disco type pick up joints in Bangkok where you can find takeout late at night without a barfine. Are there any type of places like that in Pattaya?

[QUOTE=Pro Fesseur; 1558904]atIra Johnson: While in Pattaya, you should try the Devil's Den with your girlfriend. Their girls are (allegedly)"genuinely bisexual".

[url]http://www.devilsdenpattaya.com/In-Call.php[/url]

You may find better value for your money elsewhere, but it's probably the easiest way to get what you are looking for in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Nice call Pro Fesseur. There is always the out-call option where you can take one lady at a time. I believe the Devils Den updates this link more frequently:

[url]http://devilsdenthailand.com[/url]

I will be in Pattaya next month and plan to visit DD again. Does anyone have any recent intel? Is Gik still around? She took some time off last year then came back for a while, but now her profile is off the website again.

SL

[QUOTE=Breadman;1559028]I know there's disco type pick up joints in Bangkok where you can find takeout late at night without a barfine. Are there any type of places like that in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]About 20 of them depending on what type of music you like.

I had a similar service in BKK, relaxing BBJCIM and glass of chilled pinot, arrive relaxed and happy, girl and driver waving me off. What they need is this service on the plane, not some crappy HJ from a grudging stewardess (and only in first class, and then hit and miss and usually a $200 tip).

I did pull on Cathay one, hottie.

But 18k baht seems ridiculous

Sir Lancelot.

Well written and informative reports. After all, our sexual enjoyment is a vital part of the joy of life, and years in the future you will enjoy reading back on those adventures. Mind you, I see plenty of grey haired seniors who look most happy in LOS, something Western women either don't get or are too lazy to satisfy, or have lost the art of feminine wiles. But please, keep us posted, and sorry to hear of UK sex prison.

It seems at the current forex rate US31-THB1000 that mind blowing sessions are comfortably in the $US50-100 range and seems to have stabilized. Bee sounds great, and must try her.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1558994][/QUOTE]You have a natural flair of capturing imagination of the reader, honestly, you should write a book on your escapades.

Ciao!

[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus;1559109], not some crappy HJ from a grudging stewardess (and only in first class, and then hit and miss and usually a $200 tip).[/QUOTE]How long before a class manager will ask which airline?

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When I was in Pattaya two or three years ago, there were three Sabai soapies near each other (Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, and another one whose name I don't recall). Are Sabai Room and the other one no longer there or are they now called Honey 1 and Honey 2?

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1559433]When I was in Pattaya two or three years ago, there were three Sabai soapies near each other (Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, and another one whose name I don't recall). Are Sabai Room and the other one no longer there or are they now called Honey 1 and Honey 2?[/QUOTE]They are all still there. The Honeys are off Soi Buakhow.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1557670][/QUOTE]"Furthermore she told me that tonight I was the fourth person who had asked to bar-fine her. It illustrates that some of the top girls in these bars make enough money through lady-drinks they don't need to spread their legs.[/QUOTE]

aka Coyotes

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1559489]They are all still there. The Honeys are off Soi Buakhow.[/QUOTE]Only one of them is, Honey 1 (located on Soi 11, a road that stretches between Soi Buakhao and 2nd Road). Honey 2 is some distance up 2nd Road near Sabai Dee.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1559433]When I was in Pattaya two or three years ago, there were three Sabai soapies near each other (Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, and another one whose name I don't recall). Are Sabai Room and the other one no longer there or are they now called Honey 1 and Honey 2?[/QUOTE]The Honey's are new massage parlours. My favourite is Honey 2 (located near Sabai Dee) as it's the cheapest and has some of the best girls. Probably 7pm is the best time to go. Any later and big tour groups start arriving. The girls are in two price brackets. 1800 and 2200 baht. Some of the 1800 baht girls are as pretty as girls who cost more elsewhere. Honey 1 near Soi Buakhao is a bit more expensive (surprisingly given its location and more modest building) but they have some very pretty girls. The prices here are 2000 and 2500. Sabai Dee probably has the biggest selection of girls but on my recent trip I'd rate it as 3rd place behind the Honey's. The girls cost 2000 and 2400 here. I'd recommend all three of these. One to avoid is Rasputin (tucked away near Soi 6) as the girls are much more expensive and soapies aren't on the menu (unlike those I've just mentioned). The cheapest girls are 2500 and are nowhere near as pretty the girls found in Honey 1, Honey 2 or Sabai Dee. The girls sit in different prices ranges going up to the 'models' at 4500, who are probably on par with girls half the price in the other massage parlours.

Ps. Did you go to the three Sabai soapies? If not, Sabai Dee is a very big massage parlour near Soi 1 (opposite the Big C shopping centre). On the opposite side of the road to Sabai Dee is Sabai Room which is still there but a much smaller building. I've never stepped foot inside but I've been told that it has a smaller selection of girls. Possibly worth a visit though, especially given it's proximity to Sabai Dee and Honey 2? The 3rd Sabai massage parlour is a mystery. I read about it another website but I think the writer possibly confused the side entrance to Sabai Dee as another massage parlour? I took this entrance last year and walked straight in to Sabai Dee and saw a girl I'd fucked the day before!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1559489]They are all still there. The Honeys are off Soi Buakhow.[/QUOTE]While looking for Honey Massage 2 yesterday I found that since November of 2012 it is now located where SabiLand used to be on 2nd Road at the corner of Beach Road Soi 3. It's been completely renovated and reopened. So SabiLand is no more.

Honey 1 is located on Soi 11 (opposite Mike's shopping mall) between 2nd Road and Soi Buakhao

Daddy07 and Mr Eternational.

Thanks

The Iranian guy who owes the 10D Cinema on Walking Street is a very desperate guy and that's why he can make some damage to your ear.

I walked on Walking Street today (around 2:45 a.m.) A man who walked just 10 meters before me would not get the flyer from the Iranian guy who owes the 10D Cinema. The man who walked 10 meters before me made a very clear gesture, that he was not interested in that flyer (the Iranian guy who owes the 10D Cinema on Walking Street want to give away). The Iranian guy who owes the 10D Cinema on Walking Street was insisting. And all the time, the man who walked 10 meters before me made very clear gesture that he was not interested.

The man who didn't want to take flyer walked peacefully without making anything wrong. No provocation at all. The Iranian guy follows that man about 25 seconds without saying anything. And suddenly the Iranian guy who owes the 10D Cinema shouts very loudly in the man's ear: "ASSHOLE!" in Iranian. (Well, that's why I mention the owner as Iranian, as I am also from Iran, and as I understand the Iranian word for "asshole", as a matter of a fact. And thanks to God, that it wasn't me, otherwise that Iranian guy who owes the 10D Cinema on Walking Street could get my beer bottle in the very middle of his skull ! Well, all right, I maybe be in a Thai prison some time, but the Iranian guy would get his lecture in this way any how. :)).

The guy which was attacked by that desperate Iranian guy who owes 10D Cinema, walked without making any fight, as he looked also a very peaceful man.

The moral is here: Be aware, my fellow mongerers, be aware around 10D Cinema on Walking Street. Because you can maybe be attacked by that Iranian guy who owes 10D Cinema on Walking Street.

Personally I will boycot that cinema, even I am fond of cinema. I don't think it's all right, some people be attacked (in this way) when they are not interested in the flyers some people want to give away. I am also ashamed to be Iranian, as one of my countrymen can find such a thing to do against a peaceful man.

What was the name of that cinema again?

Don't forget this one :

[url]http://www.ppbodymassage.com/[/url]

Rarely mentioned, few years ago I found there one of the most beautiful girls in soapy places, a 9. 5 and with a good atittude.

2. 500 Bahts (1. 800 for the other girls range)

Montecristo

[QUOTE=Kim Wheather;1559902]The moral is here: Be aware, my fellow mongerers, be aware around 10D Cinema on Walking Street. Because you can maybe be attacked by that Iranian guy who owes 10D Cinema on Walking Street.[/QUOTE]Moral of the story: take the flyer and do what most people do with most of the flyers. Dispose of them in the nearest garbage can once you're out of sight. There are many people always passing out flyers, cards and coupons and the likes in Pattaya, especially on WS. Some of these people can be stupidly stupid, more so when biz is slow so if its a matter of taking the flyers and avoiding conflict, take the smart way out. Unless you're a tough guy, then you can give anyone the finger.

Hi.

Got stuck with one 1996 $100. 00 bill from my local Chase bank in New York.

Didn't realize it until I went to an exchange booth here in Pattaya exchanging multiple 100's.

The clerk return the old bill and pointed to the bill date.

Just wondering if anyone knows of a atm booth or bank in Pattaya that will accept old 100. 00 bills.

Thanks.

TC.

[QUOTE=Tcvve; 1559997]Hi.

Got stuck with one 1996 $100. 00 bill from my local Chase bank in New York.

Didn't realize it until I went to an exchange booth here in Pattaya exchanging multiple 100's.

The clerk return the old bill and pointed to the bill date.

Just wondering if anyone knows of a atm booth or bank in Pattaya that will accept old 100. 00 bills.

Thanks.

TC.[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone in Thailand will take that. Years ago I tried to exchange one at the Nana Hotel in Bangkok and was turned away. My bank in the US got tired of me making a thing about having to have new bills whenever I made a big withdrawal to take overseas. They instructed me to call first so they can sort the new ones and have them ready when I get there.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1559908]What was the name of that cinema again?[/QUOTE]

I guess it's name is 10D Cinema. It is located between Tony's and Mixx.

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1559931]Moral of the story: take the flyer and do what most people do with most of the flyers. Dispose of them in the nearest garbage can once you're out of sight. There are many people always passing out flyers, cards and coupons and the likes in Pattaya, especially on WS. Some of these people can be stupidly stupid, more so when biz is slow so if its a matter of taking the flyers and avoiding conflict, take the smart way out. Unless you're a tough guy, then you can give anyone the finger.[/QUOTE]

Yes, you're right. If it is the way to avoid conflict, it is best to take those flyers and dispose them in the nearest garbage.

But it is not all right, that Iranian guy (who owes the cinema) follows a peaceful walking man about 20 seconds and shout in his ear under any circumstances (whether his business is slow or not). As I wrote before, the guy (who didn't take the flyer) didn't made anything provocative. He made a very clear gesture that he was not interested in flyer and continued to walk.

[QUOTE]She rolled a condom on to my dick and then used MASSAGE OIL AS LUBE and slowly lowered herself on to me.[/QUOTE]Latex condoms and oil-based lubricants don't mix. The oil quickly attacks the latex to the point where the condom may break.

Scientific paper explaining this effect here:

[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2535978[/url]

"As little as sixty seconds' exposure of commercial latex condoms to mineral oil, a common component of hand lotions and other lubricants used during sexual intercourse, caused approximately 90% decrease in the strength of the condoms."

Condom FAQ here:

[url]http://www.nakedtruth.idaho.gov/condom-dos-and-donts.aspx[/url]

"DON'T use oil-based products, like baby oil, cooking oil, hand lotion or petroleum jelly (like Vaseline) as lubricants with latex condoms. The oil quickly weakens latex and can cause condoms to break."

If you want to use use lube on a condom, used water-based stuff. Silicone-based personal lubricant works fine also. As evidenced by the trip report quoted above, some of the girls don't know that oil-based lube will damage a latex condom. But I'm sure they won't be amused if the condom breaks.

Bunky

[QUOTE=Kim Wheather; 1559902]The Iranian guy who owes the 10D Cinema on Walking Street is a very desperate guy and that's why he can make some damage to your ear.

Personally I will boycot that cinema, even I am fond of cinema. I don't think it's all right, some people be attacked (in this way) when they are not interested in the flyers some people want to give away. I am also ashamed to be Iranian, as one of my countrymen can find such a thing to do against a peaceful man.[/QUOTE]Wondering if the Iranian owns some cinema nearby. Not clear to me, LOL

[QUOTE=Bunky;1560233]cooking oil[/QUOTE]Just where are you meeting the girls where cooking oil is a nearby lubricant? At least you didn't mention motor oil.

[QUOTE=Tcvve; 1559997]Got stuck with one 1996 $100. 00 bill from my local Chase bank in New York.

Just wondering if anyone knows of a atm booth or bank in Pattaya that will accept old 100. 00 bills.[/QUOTE]No idea about Pattaya, but in Bangkok I'd go to Super Rich near Big C Rachadamri.

Perhaps try an actual full bank branch. They tend to be more professional and less fussy than exchange booths (after all the 1996 bill is legal currency, if they can verify validity).

Third time in Pattaya.

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[QUOTE=BionicMan;1560237]Wondering if the Iranian owns some cinema nearby. Not clear to me, LOL[/QUOTE]There's a cinema nearby called the 10D. Not sure who owns it though. :)

[QUOTE=Single Axis; 1560283]Third time in Pattaya.

PM if you want to hang out.[/QUOTE]I am in Pattaya now, and I'll be here until the 8th May. Happy to catch up with any fellow members over a beer, and have some 'adult' conversation.

And I have PM capability.

I'm afraid Sir Lancelot has raised the bar too high for my trip report, so I'll just add a few anecdotes:

I arrived a bit weary early Monday evening, but managed to quench my appetite with a quick visit to Soi 6. Went for a stroll along Beach Road and met a cute young thing opposite the police station. She said she usually hung out there. It was a bit too soon for a second round so I passed, but remembered her smiling face.

Next evening I met another cute girl in Soi 6 and I promised I would return and either buy her a drink or take her short time. Went off for a few beers and some food, and found myself strolling past the police station again, when I bumped into the girl from last night. We got chatting and I ended up happily buying her and her friend a drink from the local 7-11. I decided that she would be my friend for the night, or at least some of it. I then explained that I had promised this other girl a drink, but I would be back in 20 minutes, if she would like to go with me. At which point she got really angry, and told me I was just going for ST with the Soi 6 girl. I wish. There was nothing I could do with all my charm to calm her down, so I ended up walking off, and returning to Soi 6 girl (who was indeed very good).

So the BR girl missed the chance for a customer, because...? I don't get it. What did she have to lose by being slightly more gracious about the situation? There's Thai girls for you.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1556672]With Little flaming intentions, your nick says it all. Why one goes to Pattaya and then orders a room service from an escort agency. In Pattaya in 30 minutes you can audition quite a few girls, and at least you know in flesh what you take back to your room. And negotiate a decent price. Why call an agency to possibly get the same girl, without choosing her, or a totally different one (worst) at triple price?[/QUOTE]Just back from Pattaya, you don't need sevice escort agency to spend lot money, on my first day took me 10 mn to choose lovely girl from Beach road for 500bht sht, next day 1000bht all night.

[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1561326]I am in Pattaya now, and I'll be here until the 8th May. Happy to catch up with any fellow members over a beer, and have some 'adult' conversation.

And I have PM capability.[/QUOTE]I'm headed to Pattaya too. Will be there in the beginning of next week. Great feeling to start the final count-down. Fell free to PM me too, fellow members. Could be fun with a cool beer and some sharing of experiences during next week.

Its pleasure reading your reports Sir Lancelot. Very helpful for me for my first visit to Thailand.

Crazyy

[QUOTE=Mouse1;1561329]So the BR girl missed the chance for a customer, because.? I don't get it. What did she have to lose by being slightly more gracious about the situation? There's Thai girls for you.[/QUOTE]Funnily enough I bumped into her again during a stroll along Beach Road, recognising her mainly through a big smile and infectious laugh. She was her friendly self again, and we agreed to go for a beer, conveniently near my hotel. She came back to my room, we didn't discuss money, had a nice time and she promptly snuggled down into bed, wrapping herself around me as I drifted off. She was still there in the morning, so we repeated. She offered to stay for the day but I politely declined as I had some things to do. I had in mind to tease her a little over money, so having mentally decided 1500. 2000 baht would be OK, I asked her how much she wanted. At first it was 'up to you' so I offered 100 baht with a laugh, and she then said 1500 baht. She deserved a tip so I gave her 1600 baht.

Edit: in the last hour I have received 2 very sweet, not pushy, texts from her. A real gem.

In 4 days I've had about 8 different girls. The two I picked up from Beach Road have been the most friendly, least hardened and provided the best GFEs. Probably my fault for spending a lot of time in Soi 6 where the girls are fun and the sex can be great, but a cuddle afterwards isn't usually high on the agenda.

Whereas 300 + 700 baht used to be the norm for Soi 6, I'm now mostly paying 300 + 1000 baht. On a couple of a occasions the girl was expecting 700 baht but I didn't have the change and frankly it would have been too crappy to ask her or the bar for change.

[QUOTE=Crazy666; 1562106]Its pleasure reading your reports Sir Lancelot. Very helpful for me for my first visit to Thailand.

Crazyy[/QUOTE]I have followed up a few of Sir Lancelot's recommendations, and at three bars the other girls have no knowledge of the girls he names. Don't know why, but often the girls don't know the other girls names. One girl told me explicitly that she didn't want to get to know them because generally bar girls couldn't be trusted. A bit ironic, I thought. Otherwise perhaps Sir Lancelot got confused over the bar names?

No criticism intended, and excellent reports, but just an indication that things change in Pattaya and it's hard to pin down reality!

Edit: just to reiterate, I am certainly not impugning Sir Lancelot's integrity, but I couldn't find Bell, Lily or Ao at the bars he names. Smoke and Kisses doesn't have a curtain before the bar, so my guess is that in a few cases some of the details are misremembered. No problem, I'm just saying! I did however spot Nico at Paradise massage, and the girl with the gap in her teeth as described!

[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1562487]I have followed up a few of Sir Lancelot's recommendations, and at three bars the other girls have no knowledge of the girls he names. Don't know why, but often the girls don't know the other girls names. One girl told me explicitly that she didn't want to get to know them because generally bar girls couldn't be trusted. A bit ironic, I thought. Otherwise perhaps Sir Lancelot got confused over the bar names?

No criticism intended, and excellent reports, but just an indication that things change in Pattaya and it's hard to pin down reality!

Edit: just to reiterate, I am certainly not impugning Sir Lancelot's integrity, but I couldn't find Bell, Lily or Ao at the bars he names. Smoke and Kisses doesn't have a curtain before the bar, so my guess is that in a few cases some of the details are misremembered. No problem, I'm just saying! I did however spot Nico at Paradise massage, and the girl with the gap in her teeth as described![/QUOTE]A lot of times other bar girls won't know the names you quote because in Thailand there are no names like Bell and Lilly. Those are farang names used to make farangs feel comfortable. The other bar girls would know them by their Thai names.

I am still looking for a hottie I met three years ago name May. LOL

[QUOTE=TellAll; 1562526]A lot of times other bar girls won't know the names you quote because in Thailand there are no names like Bell and Lilly. Those are farang names used to make farangs feel comfortable. The other bar girls would know them by their Thai names.[/QUOTE]Er, I don't think you are quite right.

My understanding, and fellow members more culturally aware please correct, is that all Thai people get a nickname shortly after birth. That name is usually a Thai word that reflects a specific feature eg one girl was very red as a baby, so was called 'Dang', another liked orange juice and was called 'Som', another looked like a shrimp and became 'Goong'. Those are Thai words and can be misheard or misspelt in English. So one girl yesterday said her name was Roo, but spelt it as 'Runt'. I explained that 'Roont' would be a better spelling, and from yesterday that is now her name. Other girls (and boys) are given Western names because they are seen by some as being nicer / better. And of course some girls change their nicknames because they want to for business purposes. Some with regularity. But my guess is that 'Bell' is a Thai word, and perhaps Lily too.

The other girls I have met this trip all have very definite Thai names, such as Oi, Nut, Jib, Jeab, Abon, Pat, Waew, Paeng. Abon was interesting because she has the word tattooed on her arm, but swears blind that her name is Apple, pointing to the tattoo. I can see that 'Abon' and 'Apple' are not too dissimilar. So is her name the farang word Apple, or is that just what we hear? Many times I have struggled to catch a girl's name. When she spells it out I get it, but often an odd pronunciation to Western ears.

And finally I very rarely hear girls address each other by their formal Thai names. I doubt whether they have been called by that since school, unless in front of authority such as the police or courts.

That's my understanding, but please correct.

[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1562834]Er, I don't think you are right.

My understanding, and fellow members more culturally aware please correct, is that all Thai people get a nickname shortly after birth. That name is usually a Thai word that reflects a specific feature eg one girl was very red as a baby, so was called 'Dang', another liked orange juice and was called 'Som', another looked like a shrimp and became 'Goong'.[/QUOTE]Great explanation. But most of the Thai people I know have no idea why they have the particular nickname that they do. I think one of the only people I knew that actually knew why she had her nickname was a girl named Cartoon (She spelled it differently though.) She said when her mother was pregnant with her she would always wander the neighborhood looking for a neighbor's house where she could watch cartoons. But yeah, hardly anybody goes by their given name and if they do then it would not be the full name, but a shortened form. For instance, Pinnapang - Pinna, Piyanuch - Nuch. And lets not forget the ever popular Pat. There are at least 10 Pats on every corner - Pathitta, Patcharee, Pattra, etc. Tell had it backwards. None of a girl's friends would know her given name because they are all known by nicknames. Maybe the girl he is talking about translated her name for him in English, and her coworkers didn't know the English word, but I guarantee you that it is the same name in Thai as Mouse pointed out some examples of.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1562840]Great explanation. But most of the Thai people I know have no idea why they have the particular nickname that they do. I think one of the only people I knew that actually knew why she had her nickname was a girl named Cartoon (She spelled it differently though.) She said when her mother was pregnant with her she would always wander the neighborhood looking for a neighbor's house where she could watch cartoons. But yeah, hardly anybody goes by their given name and if they do then it would not be the full name, but a shortened form. For instance, Pinnapang - Pinna, Piyanuch - Nuch. And lets not forget the ever popular Pat. There are at least 10 Pats on every corner - Pathitta, Patcharee, Pattra, etc. Tell had it backwards. None of a girl's friends would know her given name because they are all known by nicknames. Maybe the girl he is talking about translated her name for him in English, and her coworkers didn't know the English word, but I guarantee you that it is the same name in Thai as Mouse pointed out some examples of.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification and I'm sure it factual, but I have been told by working girls especially in Pattaya that they use names they think farangs. Some have more then one.

Really like Thailand so any insight into the culture is appreciated.

But for the record, in my Detroit neighborhood growing up, everyone had a nickname also. If you ask for them by there real name, nobody knew who you were talking about. Guess that's multicultural.

[QUOTE=TellAll;1562867]Thanks for the clarification and I'm sure it factual, but I have been told by working girls especially in Pattaya that they use names they think farangs. Some have more then one.[/QUOTE]For sure that happens. Given that the nicknames have no official status I think that sometimes when girls switch jobs they use it to move on from their past. And change their phone number at the same time.

[QUOTE=Mouse1;1562487]Just to reiterate, I am certainly not impugning Sir Lancelot's integrity, but I couldn't find Bell, Lily or Ao at the bars he names. Smoke and Kisses doesn't have a curtain before the bar, so my guess is that in a few cases some of the details are misremembered. No problem, I'm just saying! I did however spot Nico at Paradise massage, and the girl with the gap in her teeth as described![/QUOTE]I'm sorry you couldn't find them. I think there's a possibility I misheard Bell's name as the music was loud. It definitely began with a B though and was one syllable long. As for the others, I find Soi 6 quite a tricky environment to make notes on my phone. For gogo bars and massage parlours, it's easy. Before I enter I make notes, while I'm sat down I make notes and when I leave I make more notes. But in Soi 6 everything moves so quickly. I'll walk down the centre of the street and when I see a girls I like sat outside, I'll go in. Five minutes later I'll be upstairs fucking her! For one of the girls I fucked for example, I realised that I'd forgotten to note the name of the bar, so next time I was on Soi 6 a few days later I tried to work it out. Problem is, a lot of the bars look quite similar.

[QUOTE=Mouse1;1562893]For sure that happens. Given that the nicknames have no official status I think that sometimes when girls switch jobs they use it to move on from their past. And change their phone number at the same time.[/QUOTE]What is the big deal with names. Think about strip clubs in the US. Do you really think her name is Destiny or Sparkle? Most of the girls I know in Pattya have difficult names and use nicknames. Sometimes more than one. I personally use different names in EU, South America, and Asia. Names that are easy to pronounce in that region. Also a change in bars is also common. My second trip there I was looking for this girl from Smok and Kisses and found her working at another bar 2 doors down.

Thanks Mouse1, I read the forum in detail to make myself more aware of things in Pattaya. I'm keeping an open mind but I certainly don't want to end up lost in translation when I am in Pattaya. You guys are really cool, keeping this forum alive and informative.

[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1562487]I have followed up a few of Sir Lancelot's recommendations, and at three bars the other girls have no knowledge of the girls he names. Don't know why, but often the girls don't know the other girls names. One girl told me explicitly that she didn't want to get to know them because generally bar girls couldn't be trusted. A bit ironic, I thought. Otherwise perhaps Sir Lancelot got confused over the bar names?

No criticism intended, and excellent reports, but just an indication that things change in Pattaya and it's hard to pin down reality!

Edit: just to reiterate, I am certainly not impugning Sir Lancelot's integrity, but I couldn't find Bell, Lily or Ao at the bars he names. Smoke and Kisses doesn't have a curtain before the bar, so my guess is that in a few cases some of the details are misremembered. No problem, I'm just saying! I did however spot Nico at Paradise massage, and the girl with the gap in her teeth as described![/QUOTE]

As for names and sharing info, IME the ladies can be helpful and sometimes intentionally not helpful. I have a regular named Pat. We're in touch by SMS. I know when she's returning to work. Just making small talk with the other ladies there they say "Pat is finished, she no come back". As in "pick me and you'll forget all about Pat."

[QUOTE=Dirt Diver22;1563085]What is the big deal with names?[/QUOTE]Well, it's called intellectual curiosity, having an enquiring mind, an appreciation of different cultures, an interest in people...

What's your problem, Dirt Diver? With your two fascinating and helpful posts I'm not sure your allusions to US strip clubs are particularly interesting. Enjoy your time in this beautiful country, Dirt Diver.

Dirt Diver22? Is that your age? Don't tell me there are 21 more like you?

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1563021]I'm sorry you couldn't find them. I think there's a possibility I misheard Bell's name as the music was loud. It definitely began with a B though and was one syllable long. As for the others, I find Soi 6 quite a tricky environment to make notes on my phone. For gogo bars and massage parlours, it's easy. Before I enter I make notes, while I'm sat down I make notes and when I leave I make more notes. But in Soi 6 everything moves so quickly. I'll walk down the centre of the street and when I see a girls I like sat outside, I'll go in. Five minutes later I'll be upstairs fucking her! For one of the girls I fucked for example, I realised that I'd forgotten to note the name of the bar, so next time I was on Soi 6 a few days later I tried to work it out. Problem is, a lot of the bars look quite similar.[/QUOTE]No worries. I did spot Biw yesterday. Recognised her from your photo. She didn't sound like your best experience though so I didn't follow through.

I asked after Bell at the bar you mentioned (Full Moon? I forget now). The mamasan indicated one girl, but her name was actually Paeng. Not too different when said quickly in Thai. And the mamasan kept saying 'yes, Bell, same same name'. I'm pretty sure from your description that it was a different girl though. Not a problem, just a bit of fun checking out others' recommendations.

On a related note, I met a girl a couple of days' ago who seemed to be making a guest appearance at Ruby Club. She clearly knew me, and was able to mention certain, er, anatomical facts about me. She kept saying something about Soi 12, which is not an address that rings a bell with me. I couldn't catch her name at all over the loud music, and I can't say I remember her. She had a stud through her cheek which would make her very memorable, and frankly not very appealing to me despite her other excellent attributes. Anyway, like I say, she clearly knew me.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1562840]Great explanation. But most of the Thai people I know have no idea why they have the particular nickname that they do. I think one of the only people I knew that actually knew why she had her nickname was a girl named Cartoon (She spelled it differently though.) She said when her mother was pregnant with her she would always wander the neighborhood looking for a neighbor's house where she could watch cartoons. But yeah, hardly anybody goes by their given name and if they do then it would not be the full name, but a shortened form. For instance, Pinnapang - Pinna, Piyanuch - Nuch. And lets not forget the ever popular Pat. There are at least 10 Pats on every corner - Pathitta, Patcharee, Pattra, etc. Tell had it backwards. None of a girl's friends would know her given name because they are all known by nicknames. Maybe the girl he is talking about translated her name for him in English, and her coworkers didn't know the English word, but I guarantee you that it is the same name in Thai as Mouse pointed out some examples of.[/QUOTE]My GF toldd me that the nicknames are given by the parents and you never use your *real* name (except for official documents and business and such) lest malevolent spirits would hear it and could use it to do all kinds of mischief to you. That kind of "nick name" is therefore not something that gets changed often, if ever at all.

But I think girls in The Game will use a separate nickname when on the job. Like our [i]nom de guerre[/i]. ;) And they may change that when switching bars.

[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1562834]Er, I don't think you are quite right.

My understanding, and fellow members more culturally aware please correct, is that all Thai people get a nickname shortly after birth. That name is usually a Thai word that reflects a specific feature eg one girl was very red as a baby, so was called 'Dang', another liked orange juice and was called 'Som', another looked like a shrimp and became 'Goong'. Those are Thai words and can be misheard or misspelt in English. So one girl yesterday said her name was Roo, but spelt it as 'Runt'. I explained that 'Roont' would be a better spelling, and from yesterday that is now her name. Other girls (and boys) are given Western names because they are seen by some as being nicer / better. And of course some girls change their nicknames because they want to for business purposes. Some with regularity. But my guess is that 'Bell' is a Thai word, and perhaps Lily too.

The other girls I have met this trip all have very definite Thai names, such as Oi, Nut, Jib, Jeab, Abon, Pat, Waew, Paeng. Abon was interesting because she has the word tattooed on her arm, but swears blind that her name is Apple, pointing to the tattoo. I can see that 'Abon' and 'Apple' are not too dissimilar. So is her name the farang word Apple, or is that just what we hear? Many times I have struggled to catch a girl's name. When she spells it out I get it, but often an odd pronunciation to Western ears.

And finally I very rarely hear girls address each other by their formal Thai names. I doubt whether they have been called by that since school, unless in front of authority such as the police or courts.

That's my understanding, but please correct.[/QUOTE]Thais tend to pronounce words ending with "L" as if it were an "N". Thus school becomes schoon. Bill becomes bin. Little becomes litten. Could explain the Apple / Apon confusion.

SW

[QUOTE=SirWilliam4; 1563390]Thais tend to pronounce words ending with "L" as if it were an "N". Thus school becomes schoon. Bill becomes bin. Little becomes litten. Could explain the Apple / Abon confusion.

SW[/QUOTE]Yes. Similarly with 'p' and 'b' (and of course 'l' and 'r').

[QUOTE=Mouse1;1564114]Yes. Similarly with 'p' and 'b' (and of course 'l' and 'r').[/QUOTE]Not similar at all. It is a different mechanism at work. Thai know perfectly the difference between 'l' and 'n'. There are many words in Thai that have a clear 'l' or 'n' sound. The poblem is that in the Thai language a word cannot end on an 'l' sound. So it gets substituted by 'n' automatically.

Many times on the Pattaya Forum members will discuss or inquire about various entertainment venues and there is often confusion about where they are located and what services are available.

I've been living here for more than six years now and still often have trouble remembering all my options and where to find them. So I've started compiling a catalogue of my favorite spots as well as other places I want to visit in the future. Pattaya is truly a playground full of options for mongers like us and there are entertainment spots to satisfy every taste.

I'm happy to share my first catalogue of Blowjob and Short time Bars with any ISG members who might be interested.

I'm also compiling catalogues of Go-Go bars, Soapies, Oilies, Restaurants and other service businesses to help me keep abreast of all the places I like to go. I call it Daddy07's Pattaya Playground and I'll be updating the information regularly, so if any of you have something to add please be sure to let me know. I'm always interested in knowing about new places to go and things to do in Pattaya.

To be sure any of you can find all of the same information on the internet but I've found that to be extremely time consuming and it's much more convenient to have all the info I want in one place.

[QUOTE=TellAll]In my Detroit neighborhood growing up, everyone had a nickname also. Guess that's multicultural.[/QUOTE]It sure is.

My given name is Winthrop Waverly Saltonsall-Plumridge.

But I picked up Bunky early in my boarding school days.

[QUOTE=Mouse1;1562834]My understanding, and fellow members more culturally aware please correct, is that all Thai people get a nickname shortly after birth. That name is usually a Thai word that reflects a specific feature eg one girl was very red as a baby, so was called 'Dang', another liked orange juice and was called 'Som', another looked like a shrimp and became 'Goong'.[/QUOTE]I once met a SW on Beach Road called Stamp. Her father worked at the post office at the time she was born.

I felt sorry for her but it didn't seem to bother her though.

[quote=daddy07;1564126]i'm happy to share my first catalogue of blowjob and short time bars with any isg members who might be interested.[/quote]nice effort, thanks for taking the time. not a biggie but the price at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is 600b unless they went up in the past month or so.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1564122]Not similar at all. It is a different mechanism at work. Thai know perfectly the difference between 'l' and 'n'. There are many words in Thai that have a clear 'l' or 'n' sound. The poblem is that in the Thai language a word cannot end on an 'l' sound. So it gets substituted by 'n' automatically.[/QUOTE]Well, similar in terms of confusion for non Thai speakers then.

If anyone going out in Pattaya this weekend I might want to join. I don't know the best bars here so PM me please. I'm 37yo from Scandinavia.

[quote=run mann;1564687]nice effort, thanks for taking the time. not a biggie but the price at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is 600b unless they went up in the past month or so.[/quote]thanks, rm. i'm sure you are correct about [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. they must have lowered the price from 700 back to 600 again, where it was for several years, to attract more customers.

btw. i tried to post the whole catalog in one convenient file but its too big so i had to chop it up into 5 bits. if anyone wants it in one file just pm me with your email address and i'll send it to you.

Hello all,

I posted quite a few lay reports on what to do in Bangkok in the afternoon in terms of oilies and soapies, and what to do in Pattaya in the evening in terms of go-go bars, but I would like to know what more experienced members recommend doing in Pattaya in the afternoon? Report will follow after I have tested.

Eric

Any buddy planning a trip for Pattaya / Bangkok last week Mat 2014? Any Indian?

Feeling bit nervous venturing solo in a foreign land.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1563252]My GF toldd me that the nicknames are given by the parents and you never use your *real* name (except for official documents and business and such) lest malevolent spirits would hear it and could use it to do all kinds of mischief to you. That kind of "nick name" is therefore not something that gets changed often, if ever at all.

But I think girls in The Game will use a separate nickname when on the job. Like our [i]nom de guerre[/i]. And they may change that when switching bars.[/QUOTE]Additionally, you never compliment a baby on how beautiful it is. You must say something like "Oh, what an ugly baby!" or words to that effect, lest the baby be snatched away by evil spirits.

Of course, sometimes the kid IS ugly. :D

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1564126]Many times on the Pattaya Forum members will discuss or inquire about various entertainment venues and there is often confusion about where they are located and what services are available.

I've been living here for more than six years now and still often have trouble remembering all my options and where to find them. So I've started compiling a catalogue of my favorite spots as well as other places I want to visit in the future. Pattaya is truly a playground full of options for mongers like us and there are entertainment spots to satisfy every taste.

I'm happy to share my first catalogue of Blowjob and Short time Bars with any ISG members who might be interested.

I'm also compiling catalogues of Go-Go bars, Soapies, Oilies, Restaurants and other service businesses to help me keep abreast of all the places I like to go. I call it Daddy07's Pattaya Playground and I'll be updating the information regularly, so if any of you have something to add please be sure to let me know. I'm always interested in knowing about new places to go and things to do in Pattaya.

To be sure any of you can find all of the same information on the internet but I've found that to be extremely time consuming and it's much more convenient to have all the info I want in one place.[/QUOTE]Daddy that's a great social service you doing man! For people like me who are not very familiar with Pattaya, these reports come in handy!

[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1565120]Additionally, you never compliment a baby on how beautiful it is. You must say something like "Oh, what an ugly baby!" or words to that effect, lest the baby be snatched away by evil spirits.

Of course, sometimes the kid IS ugly. .[/QUOTE]You watching too many Seinfeld series especially the ugly baby one?

[QUOTE=Eric Swiss; 1564893]Hello all,

I posted quite a few lay reports on what to do in Bangkok in the afternoon in terms of oilies and soapies, and what to do in Pattaya in the evening in terms of go-go bars, but I would like to know what more experienced members recommend doing in Pattaya in the afternoon? Report will follow after I have tested.

Eric[/QUOTE]Try daytime bars Kinnaree or Heaven (more hit and miss) in Pratumnak or the gogo's on LK Metro or Tahitian queen on beach road.

Not the biggest fan or daytime gogo's because of limited nudity. But never a bad way to spend a few hours. For soapies I like Honey BM near Mikes shopping Mall.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1560008]I don't think anyone in Thailand will take that. Years ago I tried to exchange one at the Nana Hotel in Bangkok and was turned away. My bank in the US got tired of me making a thing about having to have new bills whenever I made a big withdrawal to take overseas. They instructed me to call first so they can sort the new ones and have them ready when I get there.[/QUOTE]Try taking it into the branch of a bank rather than a stall out front. I've ended up with them in the past and my Thai girlfriend seems to get them changed their (SCB in particular).

[QUOTE=Cusland; 1565599]Try daytime bars Kinnaree or Heaven (more hit and miss) in Pratumnak or the gogo's on LK Metro or Tahitian queen on beach road.

Not the biggest fan or daytime gogo's because of limited nudity. But never a bad way to spend a few hours. For soapies I like Honey BM near Mikes shopping Mall.[/QUOTE]Thank you, I shall give one of them a shot next time I go to Pattaya.

My catalog of Walking Street a-Go-Go bars is now available to any member who wants a copy.

A total of 58 Go-Go bars between the North entrance to Walking Street all the way South to the Bali hai pier are featured and reviewed in order, including clubs on all the side soi's inbetween. References to web sites with further information about each club is also provided. I add my own short review, both good and bad, of the clubs I've visited, but don't take my word for it. Just explore on your own, make up your mind and enjoy.

Next up will be Soi Buakhao and Central Pattaya a-Go-Go clubs.

Since the PDF file is too big to post on the forum, if you want the catalog, I invite you to PM me with your email address and I'll send you a copy as soon as possible.

Best Regards,

Daddy

[QUOTE=Cusland;1565641]Try taking it into the branch of a bank rather than a stall out front. I've ended up with them in the past and my Thai girlfriend seems to get them changed their (SCB in particular).[/QUOTE]Thanks. I will do that soon. I went to Click (I find them to have the best rate. 32.45 yesterday) the other day and one of my $100 bills she would not change. It was 1996 series. She said they only change 1999 and up.

Hi dear,

Thanks for your favor for mongers. Can you send me the detailed reports of Bangkok and Pattaya at my [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

Thanks

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1566280]My catalog of Walking Street a-Go-Go bars is now available to any member who wants a copy.

A total of 58 Go-Go bars between the North entrance to Walking Street all the way South to the Bali hai pier are featured and reviewed in order, including clubs on all the side soi's inbetween. References to web sites with further information about each club is also provided. I add my own short review, both good and bad, of the clubs I've visited, but don't take my word for it. Just explore on your own, make up your mind and enjoy.

Next up will be Soi Buakhao and Central Pattaya a-Go-Go clubs.

Since the PDF file is too big to post on the forum, if you want the catalog, I invite you to PM me with your email address and I'll send you a copy as soon as possible.

Best Regards,

Daddy[/QUOTE]

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Picked up this cutie outside a bar feet from my hotel, it was amazing to see her dance on stage and then take her to my room. She performed very well but with some 'reservations' about giving BBBJ, that was quickly cured by simply pointing and saying 'you must'. Got her number and sent her a text seeing if she could come to my hotel today, then ten minutes later I picked up this cutie off walking street for 800 baht. 5'4".110lbs. 34c's firm, great body and face, would only do CBJ but the positions I put her thru really made up for that. I then had the first girl scheduled but she was running late, kept saying 20 minutes more to which I just said 'no'. So much is available out there, I'm not waiting on any girl to decide to show up.

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1566280]My catalog of Walking Street a-Go-Go bars is now available to any member who wants a copy.[/QUOTE]Most folks probably weren't around years back when you compiled a great compendium of the Thai language. Do you still have a copy laying around? ;)

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1566280]My catalog of Walking Street a-Go-Go bars is now available to any member who wants a copy.

A total of 58 Go-Go bars between the North entrance to Walking Street all the way South to the Bali hai pier are featured and reviewed in order, including clubs on all the side soi's inbetween. References to web sites with further information about each club is also provided. I add my own short review, both good and bad, of the clubs I've visited, but don't take my word for it. Just explore on your own, make up your mind and enjoy.

Next up will be Soi Buakhao and Central Pattaya a-Go-Go clubs.

Since the PDF file is too big to post on the forum, if you want the catalog, I invite you to PM me with your email address and I'll send you a copy as soon as possible.

Best Regards,

Daddy[/QUOTE]It would be very nice to have this online in form of a wiki.

Not really a new member as I was a contributing member in the US. But had problems with email when I moved to Asia. And for several years have not been able to post. Well hope to be helpful in the future. I am planning my 3rd trip to BKK in Sept. Will spend 4 nights in BKK and 3nights in Pattaya. So know a little about BKK and also Angeles and nothing about Pattaya (1st trip).

Will try not to ask too many questions.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1566794]It would be very nice to have this online in form of a wiki.[/QUOTE]Good thought!

I intend my catalogs to be free for the asking to anyone who wants them, so feel free to share it with your friends or anyone else. It's not copyrighted.

And if any of you guys can suggest a web site willing to post it and allow the file to be copied and downloaded from the site that would be great and would save me the trouble of sending it out individually from my email account.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1566726]Most folks probably weren't around years back when you compiled a great compendium of the Thai language. Do you still have a copy laying around? ;)[/QUOTE]Actually, yes, I do have it now that you mention it.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1566726]Most folks probably weren't around years back when you compiled a great compendium of the Thai language. Do you still have a copy laying around? ;)[/QUOTE]I definitely still have it saved on my computer.

Ventured over to walking street around 8 and checked out the Arctic bar. No girls just a frozen room with drinks. Noticed two rows of bars each compiled with about 6 working girls selling drinks. I walked down to the end and on the left settled down beside a real cute. Bought my drink and offered her one. Turns out it was her first day working, what luck! She was half thai and half Singapore. I broke my rule this night about discussing money beforehand. She asked me 3000 THB ST. Countered with LTband struck a deal. Back in my room she was real shy. Again drunk like me we fucked like bunny rabbits and I did not even realize until about 15 minutes we were grinding away BB. It felt so good and she was loving it to. A drunk fuck is usually good for me and I blew my load in her pussy. Love this feeling! Round two in the morning however was less eventful but still good!

I'm arriving on may 23rd and staying at the White House condotel by Soi 13. Anybody want to get a drink and go hunting? If you play advanced tennis maybe we can find some place to play.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1567007]Ventured over to walking street around 8 and checked out the Arctic bar. No girls just a frozen room with drinks. Noticed two rows of bars each compiled with about 6 working girls selling drinks. I walked down to the end and on the left settled down beside a real cute. Bought my drink and offered her one. Turns out it was her first day working, what luck! She was half thai and half Singapore. I broke my rule this night about discussing money beforehand. She asked me 3000 THB ST. Countered with LTband struck a deal. Back in my room she was real shy. Again drunk like me we fucked like bunny rabbits and I did not even realize until about 15 minutes we were grinding away BB. It felt so good and she was loving it to. A drunk fuck is usually good for me and I blew my load in her pussy. Love this feeling! Round two in the morning however was less eventful but still good![/QUOTE]Wait til you feel the burning and itching, LOL.

[QUOTE=Bbbb7777;1566830]Not really a new member as I was a contributing member in the US. But had problems with email when I moved to Asia. And for several years have not been able to post. Well hope to be helpful in the future. I am planning my 3rd trip to BKK in Sept. Will spend 4 nights in BKK and 3nights in Pattaya. So know a little about BKK and also Angeles and nothing about Pattaya (1st trip).

Will try not to ask too many questions.[/QUOTE]Just go to You Tube and type in "Walking Street"; that's all you'll need.

[QUOTE=AmaBondSx;1567470]I'm arriving on may 23rd and staying at the White House condotel by Soi 13. Anybody want to get a drink and go hunting? If you play advanced tennis maybe we can find some place to play.[/QUOTE]I doubt you will be here playing tennis unless you can find an indoor court.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1567668]I doubt you will be here playing tennis unless you can find an indoor court.[/QUOTE] wow 105 f is a bit hot for playing tennis :)
but if there is a break in the weather, Fairtax Thai kick boxing / gym has some really nice outside courts and some pros to play a few games with. Just take second road to the dolphin and get out. Either ask any one where fairtax is or walk up third road about a block and fairtax is on the left. If you are into raw organic foods and juices they have a juice bar / raw food restaurant there that has really tasty food. It's a bit pricey but I think it's worth it.

Have fun, LAT.

Hit the gogo's last night, walked in at 8:15 to baccara and got a comfy soafa seat right next to the stage, the next 3 hours just flew by, tons of hot talent parading across the stage. Love the see thru second floor where the girls don't wear panties. At one point some guy dumped a hundred pingpong balls upstairs and threw fists full of 20 baht bills in the air. Those girls upstairs all sat down at once to try and grab anything and all you could see was pussy lips and legs.

Slept in and needed some breakfast, found a nice german open air place right across from my hotel on soi 8 (sunrise hotel). 125 baht for oj, coffee, 2 eggs, deli meats and cheese and a basket of6 bread.

Went right down to the end of the soi and grabbed the cutest masseuse for a 2 hour oil massage, a fantastic massage and a happy ending given twice (ohhh so nice). Later on around 5 pm went down to the soapy's, walked into everyone and each had a pathetic lower level lineup. The upper lineup (more $ had some promissing talent but wasn't prepared to risk that kind of cash on a possible CBJ.

Comment on LK metro, visited twice and both times was underwhelmed by the action. I probably visited too late but 8 pm should have some action going on.

I barfined a girl from a gogo for LT, even bought her dinner, wasn't rushing anything. We get done with the session and she's putting on her clothes, says she wants to go back and make some more drinks, says she'll come back to spend the night and never called either my cell or the hotel. What's the best option? What's normally done when something like this happens? Write it off or try to get another girl free of a barfine?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1568050]I barfined a girl from a gogo for LT, even bought her dinner, wasn't rushing anything. We get done with the session and she's putting on her clothes, says she wants to go back and make some more drinks, says she'll come back to spend the night and never called either my cell or the hotel. What's the best option? What's normally done when something like this happens? Write it off or try to get another girl free of a barfine?[/QUOTE]The bar won't care: you paid the barfine, you got the girl. That is all the bar has promised to to.

You can go back to the bar and ask the girl why she didn't come back. All of a sudden she will not understand English anymore, deny you ever agreed LT or invent some emergency that stopped her from calling you or reaching your hotel.

So you better write it off and tell the forum which bar and which girl pulled a stunt like that so we can avoid her and she will suffer in her wallet.

One question: did you pay the girl up front?

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1568055]The bar won't care: you paid the barfine, you got the girl. That is all the bar has promised to to.

You can go back to the bar and ask the girl why she didn't come back. All of a sudden she will not understand English anymore, deny you ever agreed LT or invent some emergency that stopped her from calling you or reaching your hotel.

So you better write it off and tell the forum which bar and which girl pulled a stunt like that so we can avoid her and she will suffer in her wallet.

One question: did you pay the girl up front?[/QUOTE]The bare was sensations in Pattaya, the girl was number 68. When you barfine a girl there (and at Farenheit) you pay the total amount (unlike the bars I barfined in Bangkok). Maybe its a Pattaya thing, paying the entire thing upfront. Last time I ever do that. They ask for the entire amount again, I'll give them the barfine and say the girl will get the rest when she leaves.

I was in Sensations in April. I thought the line up was very impressive. Barfine is 1500 bt before midnight and 1000 bt after midnight. My girl wanted 2000 bt on top of that for ST. I payed the barfine and the drink tab before we left the bar as per usual in all Go Go's and I payed the girl separately after sex. By the way, my girl was great and I think Sensations is currently one of the best Go Go's on walking Street.

The only Go Go I know of on Walking Street that requires full upfront payment is Supergirls. And they ease up on that policy once they get to know you.

I barfined all of the girls I took back to my hotel in Bangkok, paid the bar their share and they told me what I had to pay the girl at the hotel. Never paid it all in advance. And in Pattaya the talent is spread all over, I've barfined from the beer bar down the road and only paid their 200 baht barfine, then the rest to the girl. I've actually had pretty good success, 2 for 2 picking up the girls on walking street. Then on soi 6 I've always paid the girl afterwards after paying for the short time hotel.

So I haven't really done much barfining from the gogo's in Pattaya. So the question is it normal in Pattaya that gogo bars ask for all the money upfront? There's several girls at Baracca's that draw my interest, when I inquired about the barfine they showed me the "list" which shows 700 barfine, 2500 shorttime to the girl and a total underlined. Didn't ask if it was to be paid upfront or not since I wasn't planning on it at the time. I've only barfined from Farenheit and now Sensations, both asked for everything up front.

Can I ask for advice on what to do to make sure I get the best service from a gogo dancer? Should I be explicit telling her what I want in the session and in asking what service she will perform at the bar before I barfine? I prefer a bbbj, should I come out and ask the girl before barfining if she will perform a bbbj? What are my options if I barfine a girl and she doesn't perform? What are my options, send her packing without any money? What have others done in similiar circumstances?

I've only come across this at a couple of the afternoon gogos in the Soi 13's where you pay, go upstairs on the premises and then then afterwards go back down into the bar and order another drink. It's not a problem there as you know how long you're getting and you're not going anywhere.

In instances where I've taken one or more girls back to my hotel, I've always paid afterwards and I don't think I'd take the risk of paying up front and then have the girl do a runner.

All ends well in the end, the girl showed up this morning for a booty call. A friend was in an accident and she couldn't make it, least that was the story. Sounded legit, she looked to have been up all night long.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1568085]I barfined all of the girls I took back to my hotel in Bangkok, paid the bar their share and they told me what I had to pay the girl at the hotel. Never paid it all in advance. And in Pattaya the talent is spread all over, I've barfined from the beer bar down the road and only paid their 200 baht barfine, then the rest to the girl. I've actually had pretty good success, 2 for 2 picking up the girls on walking street. Then on soi 6 I've always paid the girl afterwards after paying for the short time hotel.

So I haven't really done much barfining from the gogo's in Pattaya. So the question is it normal in Pattaya that gogo bars ask for all the money upfront? There's several girls at Baracca's that draw my interest, when I inquired about the barfine they showed me the "list" which shows 700 barfine, 2500 shorttime to the girl and a total underlined. Didn't ask if it was to be paid upfront or not since I wasn't planning on it at the time. I've only barfined from Farenheit and now Sensations, both asked for everything up front.

Can I ask for advice on what to do to make sure I get the best service from a gogo dancer? Should I be explicit telling her what I want in the session and in asking what service she will perform at the bar before I barfine? I prefer a bbbj, should I come out and ask the girl before barfining if she will perform a bbbj? What are my options if I barfine a girl and she doesn't perform? What are my options, send her packing without any money? What have others done in similiar circumstances?[/QUOTE]Breadman,

Getting girls at gogo bars are good and bad. The good this is you can see her body ahead of time. You pay the bar fine and do not tip the girl till after if you want good service. Too many guys have tipped the girls before service and now more and more are asking for tip first. That way they are in charge and will rush you. Gogo girls are usually the worst they are usually the hottest looking and have guys kissing their ass all the time they get this princess mentality. If she demands money upfront find someone else.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1568077]The bare was sensations in Pattaya, the girl was number 68. When you barfine a girl there (and at Farenheit) you pay the total amount (unlike the bars I barfined in Bangkok). Maybe its a Pattaya thing, paying the entire thing upfront. Last time I ever do that. They ask for the entire amount again, I'll give them the barfine and say the girl will get the rest when she leaves.[/QUOTE]Ah, I never visited Sensations. They seem to operate on a different business model. Cannot say I like it much. Forewarned is forearmed! Thank you.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1568085]Can I ask for advice on what to do to make sure I get the best service from a gogo dancer? Should I be explicit telling her what I want in the session and in asking what service she will perform at the bar before I barfine? I prefer a bbbj, should I come out and ask the girl before barfining if she will perform a bbbj? What are my options if I barfine a girl and she doesn't perform? What are my options, send her packing without any money? What have others done in similiar circumstances?[/QUOTE]As I usually take a girl from an agogo club or bar, I always have an "interview" with the girl before I pay her barfine. I try to do it as part of a normal chat. First develop some rapport with the girl; maybe do some light petting (more in an agogo, less in an open beerbar), ask her if she likes to kiss (and perhaps put her to the test if she says she does), does she always use condoms, does she like someone playing with her pussy, what about licking her pussy, does she "smoke", ...? Of course we both know we are likely to end up both naked in the same room and I will explore the depths of her pussy with my fingers, tongue and dick, but that doesn't mean we cannot be somewhat civilized about it when asking for her limits.

In case she renegs on the deal when in the room, I'd give her some taximoney and send her packing, always with a smile of course. But that has never happened to me. Maybe I am just lucky, have good karma or I am such an irresistible stud (you choose).

[QUOTE=Breadman;1568156]All ends well in the end, the girl showed up this morning for a booty call. A friend was in an accident and she couldn't make it, least that was the story. Sounded legit, she looked to have been up all night long.[/QUOTE]Bless you, you are a good person and obviously the karmic laws favour you. Other guys in the same circumstances would have said "She came by this morning to do a quick shag, clearly tired from being up and fucking the whole night some other guy who paid her more and telling me some bullshit story about a friend having an accident".

[QUOTE=Breadman;1567837]Hit the gogo's last night, walked in at 8:15 to baccara and got a comfy soafa seat right next to the stage, the next 3 hours just flew by, tons of hot talent parading across the stage. Love the see thru second floor where the girls don't wear panties. At one point some guy dumped a hundred pingpong balls upstairs and threw fists full of 20 baht bills in the air. Those girls upstairs all sat down at once to try and grab anything and all you could see was pussy lips and legs.[/QUOTE]A buddy of mine said he saw the same thing last night at the same time you reported it. He said it was a group of what appeared to be Asian American guys from some kind of organization. He said they all had the same t-shirts with something printed on them. They came in with boxes of baht. 20's, 50's, and 100's and were throwing them all over. They already had some girls who worked there barfined. The girls came into the club with the guys.

In Baccara right now and the same thing is going on. Ping pong balls and money flying all over the place here upstairs. A guy just took two fists full of cash and went downstairs to do the same thing.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1568230]A buddy of mine said he saw the same thing last night at the same time you reported it. He said it was a group of what appeared to be Asian American guys from some kind of organization. He said they all had the same t-shirts with something printed on them. They came in with boxes of baht. 20's, 50's, and 100's and were throwing them all over. They already had some girls who worked there barfined. The girls came into the club with the guys.[/QUOTE]In Las Vegas we're seeing the same thing more and more. A group of friends will fly in and have t-shirts printed with some silly saying on them, and proceed to have a wild drunken weekend where they all do some crazy shit just like you described. My nephew and his friends are in the midst of planning a trip exactly as described. I often see groups of girls do the same thing...they all wear silly t-shirts, cheap tiaras, and funky sunglasses to have a weekend to remember before the big wedding day. I think the Hangover movies helped promote all this craziness...but it's fun to watch (in small doses).

[QUOTE=Breadman;1568085]I barfined all of the girls I took back to my hotel in Bangkok, paid the bar their share and they told me what I had to pay the girl at the hotel. Never paid it all in advance. And in Pattaya the talent is spread all over, I've barfined from the beer bar down the road and only paid their 200 baht barfine, then the rest to the girl. I've actually had pretty good success, 2 for 2 picking up the girls on walking street. Then on soi 6 I've always paid the girl afterwards after paying for the short time hotel.

So I haven't really done much barfining from the gogo's in Pattaya. So the question is it normal in Pattaya that gogo bars ask for all the money upfront? There's several girls at Baracca's that draw my interest, when I inquired about the barfine they showed me the "list" which shows 700 barfine, 2500 shorttime to the girl and a total underlined. Didn't ask if it was to be paid upfront or not since I wasn't planning on it at the time. I've only barfined from Farenheit and now Sensations, both asked for everything up front.

Can I ask for advice on what to do to make sure I get the best service from a gogo dancer? Should I be explicit telling her what I want in the session and in asking what service she will perform at the bar before I barfine? I prefer a bbbj, should I come out and ask the girl before barfining if she will perform a bbbj? What are my options if I barfine a girl and she doesn't perform? What are my options, send her packing without any money? What have others done in similiar circumstances?[/QUOTE]Breadman,

If you refuse to pay a Thai hooker even if she gives shit service. What she most likely will do is call the police. The police will come and take you to the police station ext. All for $30 USD. What ever you do. Do not get a thai girl upset. I have seen it and it is scary. In the USA she call her pimp. In Thailand it is is the police. Either way she is getting her money.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1568085]Can I ask for advice on what to do to make sure I get the best service from a gogo dancer? Should I be explicit telling her what I want in the session and in asking what service she will perform at the bar before I barfine? I prefer a bbbj, should I come out and ask the girl before barfining if she will perform a bbbj? What are my options if I barfine a girl and she doesn't perform? What are my options, send her packing without any money? What have others done in similiar circumstances?[/QUOTE]There are no guarantees in this business. Generally, your best bet is to talk to a girl for a while and see if you get along well and have decent chemistry (isn't that the whole point of lady drinks? Before agreeing to a barfine, perhaps make a *slightly* out-of-ordinary request (one of my favorites is to ask if I can finish 2 times in an ST session), and see how she reacts. If she's apprehensive and tries to negotiate it away, drop her like a hot potato. Negotiating the price up is ok, negotiating service down is always unacceptable.

I don't think a detailed point-by-point checklist of standard sex acts (BBBJ of minimum 3 minutes duration, take off the bra, FS in mish / doggy / cowboy positions) would get you far... Such a list would just kill the vibe, would never be complete. Ultimately, the girl can provide you with a crappy session even if she ticks all the boxes on that list. However, do ask in advance if you have special request like anal.

If a girl doesn't perform, and you detect flakiness, you do have an option of cancelling the session, preferably at the earliest possible point. Generally, if there was no intercourse you don't need to pay the full price (much as she may pout), but must *always* give her some money (perhaps 200-500 baht), no matter if the fault was all hers. Unhappy as she may be, accepting that money and leaving closes the transaction -- if you don't pay her at all, you can rightfully expect major problems and need to look behind your back for a while.

The trouble is when you figure out a flake a too late, she already took a shower, got naked and played with your member... Then the situation gets a more difficult. If you had any sort of intercourse (including a BJ), no matter how briefly, then you pretty much owe her the amount you agreed on, as long as she's not explicitly refusing to continue.

My wingman met some chick somewhere (don't remember the details) and it turns out she works in Farenheit agogo. She wanted him to come by while she is at work. Before he went he was communicating with her through whatsapp. He made it clear that he wanted her to come over after work and that he would not be paying a barfine.

So we went there at 1:30 last night and had a Tiger draft each for 80 baht. We finally left out and he said he was supposed to go back and meet her at 3 when the place closed. We are cut from the same cloth so I know the most he is going to give her is 1200 LT.

In the meantime we hung out in Lucifer. 2:58 rolled around and I told him that he needed to head out. I figured I would just call up one of my chicks to come over to the house. When I was about to walk up the stairs in Lucifer I saw this chick and I told her two words, "Let's go." She said let me get my things and tell my friends. We walked out of Lucifer and there stood the gogo girl waiting on my friend.

Me and my girl both had motorbikes parked in different places so I told her to meet me at Kiss restaurant. We took showers and she proceeded to blow my mind. 1130 and she is still here. I have 1000 baht with her name written all over it when she wakes up. Just talked to my wingman and his gogo girl is not only still there, but cleaning up his place as I write. He said she is very domesticated. I'm about to wake mine up for the next round and put her out so I can start my day.

Sure, if bar fines, lady drinks, interviews and the like work for you. But I have never had a problem walking up to a random chick and using those two words. This is not brain surgery, it's point and click.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1569032]
In the meantime we hung out in Lucifer. 2:58 rolled around and I told him that he needed to head out. I figured I would just call up one of my chicks to come over to the house. When I was about to walk up the stairs in Lucifer I saw this chick and I told her two words, "Let's go." She said let me get my things and tell my friends. We walked out of Lucifer and there stood the gogo girl waiting on my friend.

Me and my girl both had motorbikes parked in different places so I told her to meet me at Kiss restaurant. We took showers and she proceeded to blow my mind. 1130 and she is still here. I have 1000 baht with her name written all over it when she wakes up. Just talked to my wingman and his gogo girl is not only still there, but cleaning up his place as I write. He said she is very domesticated. I'm about to wake mine up for the next round and put her out so I can start my day.

Sure, if bar fines, lady drinks, interviews and the like work for you. But I have never had a problem walking up to a random chick and using those two words. This is not brain surgery, it's point and click.[/QUOTE]This was a gogo girl at Lucifer and you said "let's go" and she came with you, no barfine, no discussion of price? How did you know she would accept 1000 bht for a whole night?

With the growing trend of Go Go's asking you to pay up front especially if you are new or come across as new?

As noted one really has to do a little work especially in the conversation area to see if you got the right girl. Even then it is no sure thing but one got to put in the time to try to offset any disappointment. My moto is if you put yourself in the position for something to happen it most likely will happen? Putting in some time helps cut the chances that it will?

With the posting by Breadman, in my opinion the biggest mistake was to ask " what is the barfine " this is a red flag like telling them you have never been here before. Doing this increases your chance you will be ask to pay everything up front in my book! It is no different that one going in and not knowing what they want to drink? Insuring one that they will get a menu outlining what is offered to drink along with what the barfine and cost for ST / LT you loose the ability to negotiate a better deal and getting a better deal take some work otherwise it is a request to pay up front. Work it out with the girl! I've seen in particular Falangs get upset once they are approached by the Mamasan to pay up front and after this you could see the mood change and it is not for the better. These are the same Falangs expat who live here and claim how they understand how Thailand works?

Barfine rates changes and not for the better? Many clubs have 2-3 level pricing and then you have those that charge lower after Midnight. If you got to know the barfine rate while sitting there having your drink ask one of the service staff " don't ask the girl who you want to barfine " if you do that you are dead in the water the % is you will be paying up front.

Sorry for the question, but I see no proper summary or answer to this...

If you go to the Anal Connoisseurs forum you might understand... Have never been here to Pattaya... Where I've been in China anal was just a no no no... I know in Pattaya it's different, but I'm not interested in any ladyboy (operated or not)... Just want some nice petite thai anal fucker... How is the % of go go girls doing anal? Is there any special place... Is some one wants advices on anal...

IT.

P.S. Many Thanks!

[QUOTE=ItTravel;1569059]Is there any special place...[/QUOTE]Devils Den at Soi LK Metro.

[QUOTE=ItTravel;1569059]Sorry for the question, but I see no proper summary or answer to this...

If you go to the Anal Connoisseurs forum you might understand... Have never been here to Pattaya... Where I've been in China anal was just a no no no... I know in Pattaya it's different, but I'm not interested in any ladyboy (operated or not)... Just want some nice petite thai anal fucker... How is the % of go go girls doing anal? Is there any special place... Is some one wants advices on anal...

IT.

P.S. Many Thanks![/QUOTE]If your looking for anal, you cannot go past Soi 6. At least half the girls on the 6 do it.

With the go go girls you will need to ask them during the vetting process. You are likely to find more girls willing to do anal in the more 'hands on' go gos like windmill. I took one out of there last trip in April. But like anything in Thailand, if your willing to pay more baht I'm sure you will find an unwilling partner, willing to yield for extra dollars, which I am sure you will enjoy more It is hard to put a percentage on the go go girls who take it up the'toot toot' but I am sure if anyone can get them to give up there hershey highway, it is you IT Travel!!

I do enjoy your reports and you are the Bradman of buttfucking. Looking forward to your Thailand tales.

I was in Pattaya last week, enjoying the" local delights.".

One afternoon, at a cafe on Beech Road, I met a late 20's girl called Jen from BKK who was holidaying in Pattaya for a few days.

We exchanged phone numbers and I subsequently spent a few rather pleasant hours with her at my hotel.

Now, as most of you who were in Thailand last week know, May 13th was a major "Buddha Day" in Thailand with bar closures and major restrictions on alcohol sales.

I had made no forward plans for this day and so, late morning, when I realized that my options would be limited I decided to call Jen to see if we could meet up again that afternoon.

When I spoke to her she told me "soooo sorry, today cannot see you today. I at Temple for Buddah, make merit! ".

Hmmm, not good news for me so what should I do?

As I was considering my options, and only 10 minutes after my call to Jen, my phone rang, showing an unknown Thai number.

I answered it and a Thai girl, speaking quite reasonable English, introduced herself and told me that she was a friend of Jen and that they had just spoken together.

She explained that Jen had called her and told her that she could not see me as she was at the temple and so had asked her if she could call and "take care me!

So, a possibly boring afternoon in a very warm and alcohol free Pattaya or take a chance with a meeting with a rather cute sounding but unknown Thai girl!

Oh, decisions, decisions. What was a guy to do?

It must have taken me at LEAST 20 seconds to tell my new friend that I would LOVE to meet her and give her directions to my hotel.

Less than one hour later she arrived. I was agreeably surprised. She was mid 20's, rather attractive and had a great sense of humor.

So, after a drink and a chat we retired to my room to admire the view and get to know each other better.

She turned out to be GREAT company and certainly "took care" of me VERY well.

When I saw Jen a few days later I thanked her for "making the arrangements" and asked her if this was part of her "Making Merit.".

She laughed and said that if I enjoyed myself then she was happy.

I have asked Jen in a joking way if a threesome might be possible next time as I would be more than happy to try my best at making TWO Thai ladies happy!

She did not say NO so watch this space!

Don't you just LOVE Thai girls!

Enjoy,

Hotman.

[QUOTE=Wolfman2009;1568590]Breadman,

If you refuse to pay a Thai hooker even if she gives shit service. What she most likely will do is call the police. The police will come and take you to the police station ext. All for $30 USD. What ever you do. Do not get a thai girl upset. I have seen it and it is scary. In the USA she call her pimp. In Thailand it is is the police. Either way she is getting her money.[/QUOTE]I don't think it is very likely that the police will get involved, mainly because there is nothing in it for them. Might be different if you jumped some red lights afterwards...

But it is not a smart or wise thing to do to renege on a deal. If the girl has definitely not performed (and the only example I can think is heading off after ST if LT was promised), then you are justified in paying less after explaining carefully why.

And try not to get anyone upset, because it will spoil your holiday (karma and all that).

For anything else, such as poor performance or attitude, then just pay up and cut your losses. Move on, and put it down to experience. It's only $30.

My last visit there was on Feb 14. I have attached a pic of a similar experience from a holidaying girl from Bangkok. They seem to be better than regular pick ups most of the time. She even dropped me in her car to Bangkok. Have fun will look forward to your Threesome report.

[UOTE=Hotman666;1569170]I was in Pattaya last week, enjoying the" local delights.".

One afternoon, at a cafe on Beech Road, I met a late 20's girl called Jen from BKK who was holidaying in Pattaya for a few days.

We exchanged phone numbers and I subsequently spent a few rather pleasant hours with her at my hotel.

Now, as most of you who were in Thailand last week know, May 13th was a major "Buddha Day" in Thailand with bar closures and major restrictions on alcohol sales.

I had made no forward plans for this day and so, late morning, when I realized that my options would be limited I decided to call Jen to see if we could meet up again that afternoon.

When I spoke to her she told me "soooo sorry, today cannot see you today. I at Temple for Buddah, make merit! ".

Hmmm, not good news for me so what should I do?

As I was considering my options, and only 10 minutes after my call to Jen, my phone rang, showing an unknown Thai number.

I answered it and a Thai girl, speaking quite reasonable English, introduced herself and told me that she was a friend of Jen and that they had just spoken together.

She explained that Jen had called her and told her that she could not see me as she was at the temple and so had asked her if she could call and "take care me!

So, a possibly boring afternoon in a very warm and alcohol free Pattaya or take a chance with a meeting with a rather cute sounding but unknown Thai girl!

Oh, decisions, decisions. What was a guy to do?

It must have taken me at LEAST 20 seconds to tell my new friend that I would LOVE to meet her and give her directions to my hotel.

Less than one hour later she arrived. I was agreeably surprised. She was mid 20's, rather attractive and had a great sense of humor.

So, after a drink and a chat we retired to my room to admire the view and get to know each other better.

She turned out to be GREAT company and certainly "took care" of me VERY well.

When I saw Jen a few days later I thanked her for "making the arrangements" and asked her if this was part of her "Making Merit.".

She laughed and said that if I enjoyed myself then she was happy.

I have asked Jen in a joking way if a threesome might be possible next time as I would be more than happy to try my best at making TWO Thai ladies happy!

She did not say NO so watch this space!

Don't you just LOVE Thai girls!

Enjoy,

Hotman.[ / QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Mouse1;1569331]I don't think it is very likely that the police will get involved, mainly because there is nothing in it for them. Might be different if you jumped some red lights afterwards...[/QUOTE]I'm no too sure of that. As most of the clubs and bars seem to operate on the darker grey side of the law, they will have "protection" from their local police, who may very well be honor-bound now and then to assist in "commercial disputes".

[QUOTE=Loveit;1569165]If your looking for anal, you cannot go past Soi 6. At least half the girls on the 6 do it.

With the go go girls you will need to ask them during the vetting process. You are likely to find more girls willing to do anal in the more 'hands on' go gos like windmill. I took one out of there last trip in April. But like anything in Thailand, if your willing to pay more baht I'm sure you will find an unwilling partner, willing to yield for extra dollars, which I am sure you will enjoy more It is hard to put a percentage on the go go girls who take it up the'toot toot' but I am sure if anyone can get them to give up there hershey highway, it is you IT Travel!!

I do enjoy your reports and you are the Bradman of buttfucking. Looking forward to your Thailand tales.[/QUOTE]Good do you have price ideas? I mean BF + LT (all night) tree holer? Can it go up to 2.500 - 3.000 or what?

Thanks...

IT.

[QUOTE=ItTravel;1569536]Good do you have price ideas? I mean BF + LT (all night) tree holer? Can it go up to 2.500 - 3.000 or what?

Thanks...

IT.[/QUOTE]The girl I took from Windmill was 700 BF and 3000 LT. On soi 6 it was 300 BF and 1000ST. I paid the same price for a beer bar girl 300 BF and 1000 LT.

Devil's den is where there is a line on the floor where the girls on one side do anal.

I went to Walking Street on a Saturday night around 11 pm. Tried a few go-go bars: Alcatraz, Sensations, Airport. Nothing caught my fancy. Then as I was walking along Walking Street, I saw this Freelancer on the sidewalk who caught my eye. Her hair was tinted blonde in an unusually classy way for an Asian, and she had a circular braid around the top of her hair that made her look like a Roman princess. I asked her how much for short time and she said 1000 Baht. I asked her if she was a ladyboy and she said no.

I compared this with go-go bar girls: 150 lady drink + 600 bar fine + 2000 short time = 2750 baht. Now I'm not a cheapskate but that's a huge difference!

Her English was very good. We went up to the short-time hotel and did the deed. When she undressed, she revealed a skinny body that pleased me. She delivered a good performance in the sack. Her pussy was pretty tight. Of course I was careful, locked my valuables in the safe, and used a condom.

So I think that's what I will try next time: I will pick up a Freelancer on Walking Street, then recharge my batteries for an hour by sitting in a live music bar like Hot Tuna, and go back again for a second round with another Freelancer. The total cost will be less than going to a go-go bar, and double the fun!

Another advantage I see is that go-go girls have to pay the bar if they're not in the mood to show up for work. Result is they do show up even when they're not in the mood. Clearly this girl had decided to go to Walking Street that day, sell her pussy and grab some cash. She was really into the job. I don't like to go with girls who'd rather be elsewhere.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1569057]With the growing trend of Go Go's asking you to pay up front especially if you are new or come across as new?

As noted one really has to do a little work especially in the conversation area to see if you got the right girl. Even then it is no sure thing but one got to put in the time to try to offset any disappointment. My moto is if you put yourself in the position for something to happen it most likely will happen? Putting in some time helps cut the chances that it will?

With the posting by Breadman, in my opinion the biggest mistake was to ask " what is the barfine " this is a red flag like telling them you have never been here before. Doing this increases your chance you will be ask to pay everything up front in my book! It is no different that one going in and not knowing what they want to drink? Insuring one that they will get a menu outlining what is offered to drink along with what the barfine and cost for ST / LT you loose the ability to negotiate a better deal and getting a better deal take some work otherwise it is a request to pay up front...[/QUOTE]Most Gogos have a sign somewhere showing the price list for the fines.

Guys,

What is the situation in Thailand at the moment. Did the introduction of nationwide martial law change anything or is it business as usual?

Thanks!

Hedo.

[QUOTE=Michi;1569942]Most Gogos have a sign somewhere showing the price list for the fines.[/QUOTE]Some but not the majority from my experience and visits in general about a handful. So for the poster who ask about the barfines look around the room for the so call signs and then ask the service staff and not the girl.

I can't even imagine Pattaya dead by 10 pm.

So those of you with boots on the ground, what's the word?

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1570526]I can't even imagine Pattaya dead by 10 pm.

So those of you with boots on the ground, what's the word?[/QUOTE]No need to imagine. Just look at the picture.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1570746]No need to imagine. Just look at the picture.[/QUOTE]Holly fuck...I have NEVER seen it looking like that...it's busier in the morning at 6:00 am Than in that picture.

[QUOTE=Dveight;1570751]Holly fuck...I have NEVER seen it looking like that...it's busier in the morning at 6:00 am Than in that picture.[/QUOTE]It IS THAT DEAD - 7-11 and the like closed at 10. Bars are closed at 10, nationwide curfew at 10 Soi 6 dark at 910 when I went by last night beach road almost deserted. Songtaew stopped a bit after 10 (last night) Nothing until 5 AM then 7-11 (and similar) opens. Big police presence at city hall on and Pattaya road.

NO TV IN THE ROOM except some stupid shit patriotic music and an occasional notice about reminding farang to obey the laws. FOOD? Better eat before 10 or get Thai sai toong plastic bag take-out.

THIS SUCKS.

There is a nationwide curfew from 10 pm to 5 am everywhere, they have even broadcast it over the village tannoy to remind people to be at home by 10 pm.

All places of entertainment must be closed during these hours.

Did May my LT in the morning in Bangkok. She was much friskier than last night and much more enjoyable,8 experience. 2000 bht 3 pops LT, 7 overall experience though I don't think I'll do LT again as I don't trust the girls enough to stay the night. Went to a medical turism office in the Ambassador hotel to check on a procedure called coolsculpting. Was going to cost 670 US. Can get it for 800 back home so pass. Negotiated with several taxis around nana and got 1000 bht to Pattaya. One inside they asked for 75 bht for toll and I said ok. Driver took me to a "limousine" place just outside the airport and I switched into another Carolla but it was black. Trip was uneventful, tipped the driver 200 bht as I like to give drivers more. I know I just brought the fare to normal price, but I prefer to reward good performance.

Arrived Pattaya 1400, checked into White House one day early, no problem. 1500 bht per night w breakfest, good I might add and nice room but still uses keys instead of keycards. I don't know how secure that is, but there is a safe. Walked down beach street then walking street w my tennis racket as I am heading to the Bayshore hotel to see if I can get a lesson. Both streets are dead and it is blazing hot. As soon as I get to the courts I meet Dan a pro and immediatly get a lesson 400 bht plus 200 bht court. I am a bit better than Dan and the balls are terrible and the court is slick, but it is shadded where I am playing and it helps a lot and I got a good workout. I then go shower and head to the famous Soi 6 around 6. Lots of girls but only 2 are interesting. I stop at a bar at the corner of Soi 6 and 2nd street and talk and have drinks with a bunch of chap from the UK. Great guys! One invits me right across the street to a BJ bar and I see another cutie 8/10 23 years old, her name started with a Y and ended with a T. I am not good w names and Thai names are hard to understand. I get a room and choose FS, 1300 bht. The room is shabby but the service is excellent. This girls knows how to do a BJ, good suction, licked shaft and nice ball sucking, light french kissing and was a tiger in the sack. 8 experience.

I head back to the room to change shoes as my sandals are giving me a blister. I stopped in several tatto shops to see how much a design would be. I get the same or even more than I can back home, not worth it. 2000 hrs I head towards walking street. There must have been 50 or more FLs between soi 13 and walking street! Walking street was a complete bust. It was just a bunch of tourists crowing the entire street and the girls in uniforms dancing in front of various places. Reminded me of Disney land. Walked 100 meters and turned around. I was not going to get any action there. Seems like all the FLs moved to beach road. I walk beach road till I think soi 9, probably 80 girls and 30 LBs. I can be choosy and I pick a thin and cute girl named? Doesn't matter, she was a 9 and experince was a 9 as she was so tight and I made her cum 2 or 3 times, 1000 bht. Afterwards went ouside and all is closed, cerfew, but there are still lots of girls on beach road. I get some fruit and chicken skewers from street vendors and walk beach road several times looking for the next perfet one. Funny how your standards go up when given a lot of choices. At home I would have done a third of them. I learned if you see a good one, take her right away as she will not be the on the way back. Around 2400 I choose Bam with nice BJ lips, 1000 bht 7 body, 8 face 7 experience. I like Pattaya. 3 girls 3300 bht, no less than a 7 experience.

Tomorrow I will be looking for a dentist to do a teeth cleaning. Any recommendations on places and prices?

[QUOTE=AmaBondSx;1571254]Afterwards went ouside and all is closed, cerfew, but there are still lots of girls on beach road. SNIP Around 2400 I choose Bam with nice BJ lips, 1000 bht 7 body, 8 face 7 experience.[/QUOTE]So despite the curfew there are still girls on BR after 10 PM and even as late as midnight?

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1571350]So despite the curfew there are still girls on BR after 10 PM and even as late as midnight?[/QUOTE]Yep, businesses are closed but still people everywhere. It thins out a lot by midnight and the pickings get sparce. I saw the police drive thru once, but they did nothing.

[QUOTE]Arrived Pattaya 1400, checked into White House one day early, no problem. It was 1500 baht per night with breakfast, good I might add.Nice room but still uses keys instead of keycards. I don't know how secure that is, but there is a safe.[/QUOTE]That amused me when I stayed there. The metal keys aren't small either. Plus they are attached a large plastic key fob. The Whitehouse Condotel key added considerable bulk and weight to my "pocket litter." (Donning flame-proof suit and ducking head) But it was not really a problem for me. I had plenty of room in the numerous pockets of my cargo shorts, which I paired with a singlet advertising Chang Beer!

Bunky.

Good free breakfast in the White House except the omelet was not cooked enough, will let them know next time. Tennis 10-11 w Dan at he bayshore hotel. Blazing hot but I played in shade and one hour was enough 600 bht. After shower and lunch went to soi6. Picked Som 9/10 from a MP that had a sign with a hanging billboard of a girl riding a motorcycle close to BR. 9 experience. She was only visiting and normall works as a nurse or so she says. Damn! I'd take this girl home with me if I could, unfortunately, her English was minimal. 300 room, 1000 her, 300 tip. During the course of the day I took 3 FLs from beach road a 6, a 9 and a 7, 600 bht, 1000 bht, and 800 bht respectively, experience 6, 8, 6. Against my better judgement I went Walking street and it was just a tourist attraction though there were some good cover bands playing and some street performers dancing. I saw the most incredible spinning break dancer ever. One interesting thing is there are lots of rats surring about the sand at night. Funny thing is they seem cute, not like the nasty rats in the US.

With the curfew in place, maybe this report from my recent trip (4.29-5.11) will keep you gentleman entertained. For the first two days of my trip check my posts in the BKK thread.

I negotiated a car for 1200 BAHT to Pattaya from the guys at the taxi stop on Soi 18, just up the street from my Hotel Studio 18. This was considerably cheaper than what was quoted to me online. Car was fine with A / see. But traffic on Friday afternoon was absolute murder and it took about 3 hours to get to Pattaya.

We arrived in Pattaya (actually Jomtien) around 7 PM. I usually take a condo in View Talay 5, form the same nice Taiwanese lady. I like being removed from the chaos of Pattaya, and have never had a problem taking a lady back to my condo. This works great for me because I am an LT guy. I could see it as being a pain if I was doing STs, going back and forth with each pick up.

Also the condo and building are super nice, with balcony with an amazing view (the girls are always impressed in the morning). There's also a beautiful pool where you can take the girls swimming if they stay over into the afternoon. There is also 24 hr security and the girls must check in with their IDs. I've developed a good report with the security guys and they are sure to give me comments (usually compliments) on the girls I take back with me. All for around 1000 Baht a night!

The beach in Jomtien is also much cleaner than Pattaya, and in the past I have had very nice dinners on the beach at sunset, with the chair rental guys getting tasty Thai food from the local restaurants. Though it was just too damned hot to eat outside this trip. I took most of my meals under A / C.

This is my 3rd stay in the same condo and I am becoming attached to the condo and almost feel like I own the place. I have fond memories of hot sex in the shower, in the kitchen, on the balcony, etc.

After getting the key and checking in with the Chinese caretaker (who remembers me and tells me to look him up if I am in Shanghai later in the year), I take a good long nap. My plan is to take it easy this evening, pick up a FL at my favorite club, Red Car. I had tremendous success there my last trip to Thailand a few years ago and my good run there will continue on this trip. For the longest time I thought the place was called Walking Street (that is what the sign outside says, with a logo that looks like the London Metro logo). But I guess it's become known as Red Car because of the vintage actual red car that is hung right above the door to the place (see foto). Or this is at least what I learn later form one of my girls.

After a two hour nap, shower, and quick Sontgaw ride I am arrive at Red Car just a litlte after 11. Unfortunately as I am to learn, this is WAY too early for this place. The place is completely dead and I leave without even having a beer. But with plans to hit it up again later in the evening.

Walking street is lively with plenty of cute free lancers around. I decide to get a beer at one of the beer bars that surround the Muay Thai ring just outside of beer garden. The girls selection there is not very good, but I do manage to find a cutie. However she really isn't giving me the time of day. I still enjoy the ambiance and the campiness of the super fake fights the guys put on. But it's is just too damned hot to be outside, and I decide to hit Airport to cool off and check out the scene there.

Airport is always lively and great. Perhaps the funest party on walking street, even though I don't think they necessarily have the hottest girls. Soon after being seated I invite a VERY cute girl, Fon, to come sit with me. After a Lady Drink we are soon making out and I am fondling her all over: tits, ass, crotch. The party is in high gear. A few tables down, two farang couples are having an especially raucous time with both girls gyrating wildly to the music. One of the girls gets up on stage and starts dancing and stripping down to her underwear! She's really shaking it in a sexy way -- the Airport girls could learn a lesson from her. Random guys even try to give her tips. She definitely has everyone's attention and Fon compliments her on being such a sexy lady.

These folks must be Russian, but I don't get to check as I am preoccupied with my little bundle of hotness. I am seriously tempted BF her LT. But the price is kind of steep. I think I was quoted a BF of 1000 as it is still before midnight. (But I could be wrong about that and it may be more). I'm also determined to see what kind of fun is had at Red Car, and figure I can always come back to get Fon as a 2nd option. I bid my farewells to Fon explaining that I am jetlagged as this is my first night in Thailand and promise her that I will come back to get her some other night.

I get back to Red Car around 12:30 and it is much more lively. A lot of doable girls but no real stunners. I guess I am already getting picky their early on in my trip! But I am getting tires and I just want to find someone to drag back to my man cave. After a couple passes around the bar I spot a cute little thing with mice big tits. She looks soft and cuddly, just what my tired body needs. I walk over and introduce myself. She is a bit nervous at first and refuses my offer to buy her a drink. I am a little worried I may be headed for a starfish experience. She asks for 1500 to go with me LT and I say OK as I really want to get out of here as I haven't had a proper dinner.

I take her to Secrets (another place with A / C!) and after we order some food and drinks she starts to warm up to me and we cuddle and kiss a little. I can see she is very affectionate. After paying the bill we grab a motorbike taxi back to my place.

Back in the condo she is shy at first but soon warms up. She has a bunch of tattoos, which I am not really into. But her body is nice with very nice natural boobs. She is every bit the soft and cuddly playmate I imagined at the bar. She is also very horny. Great BJ and super hot sex. I can tell she is into it and that she comes several times. As we drift off to sleep she tells me that she tells me that I am the first man she has slept with since she broke up with her boyfriend three years ago. She says she is form BKK and works there in a beauty salon. Apparently she is on vacation in Pattaya and doing a little hooking on the side? Weird from our Western mentality. But maybe it's true? If so, it's this kind of mindset that makes LOS such a great place.

Round 2 and 3 in the morning. We do it in the bed, in the kitchen an on the bathroom counter. Hot stuff! This girl is really into me! She has no inclination to leave and is very affectionate with me. Finally I have to kick her out (it's already 4 pm!) saying that I have work to do. She tell me she really likes me and hopes to see me again. I like her but am keen on trying something new. She says she will be at Red Car (I finally learn the real name of the place form her) later with her friends and hopes I will join her. I tell her I am tired and have work to do and may not go out. This is a lie. I am also worried that she will be cock blocking me at Red Car -- my favorite hunting ground.

We exchange numbers before she leaves and she gets me to sign up for the Line I'm service. A great tip on her part as I am staying in contact with a bunch of girls now through LINE. She clings to me as we say goodbye and she tells me how much she likes me. She is teary eyed that she won't see me again, but I tell her I will see her for sure before she leaves for Bangkok on Tuesday. I start receiving IMs from her 30 minutes after she is out the door. "I love you". "You good man". "I miss you." "Wand see you again.", etc.

Gentleman I think we have a major case of static cling(er) here!!

A Post about Day 4 to follow.

Stay horny my friends..

Uncle V.

Hello Uncle V,

Might you care to share the contact of the condo? It is a really good deal and I always want to impress the ladies.

Thank you in advance!

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1571863]With the curfew in place, maybe this report from my recent trip (4.29-5.11) will keep you gentleman entertained. For the first two days of my trip check my posts in the BKK thread.

I negotiated a car for 1200 BAHT to Pattaya from the guys at the taxi stop on Soi 18, just up the street from my Hotel Studio 18. This was considerably cheaper than what was quoted to me online. Car was fine with A / see. But traffic on Friday afternoon was absolute murder and it took about 3 hours to get to Pattaya.

We arrived in Pattaya (actually Jomtien) around 7 PM. I usually take a condo in View Talay 5, form the same nice Taiwanese lady. I like being removed from the chaos of Pattaya, and have never had a problem taking a lady back to my condo. This works great for me because I am an LT guy. I could see it as being a pain if I was doing STs, going back and forth with each pick up...[/QUOTE]

Started with breakfast then one hour tennis with Oat at the bashore hotel. He is as good as me so we have a good hit though because of the heat I feel a little faint at the end. When we are chatting next to the courts a solid 10 is doing the walk of shame. I stop her and ask for ST but her English is terrible, but agrees for 1000 baht but she cannot now as she goes to work at the Toy Bar. I say I will go there later. Shower and change then to Soi 6 for a nooner. Picked a petite little thing solid 9 experience 8, 1000 bht plus 350 bht ac room the Twat Bar. Got some lunch then went saw x-men to recharge then got cute FL from beach road 700 bht. She was really friendly and playful at first but it took me a while to finish and seemed mad about that. She left real quiet. I guess they can't all be diamonds. Girl 7 experience 5. After some food I head towards the Toy Bar. I am not hopeful since after looking it up, it is the opposite direction from where the earlier girl indicated and of course she was not there. I walked down Soi 6. One was interesting but decide to try luck on Beach road. Good choice. Picked up May, 23, tiny, 10 body 8 face 800 bht CBJ but great screw, 8 experience. I'm looking down at her as I am doing her doggy and I think to myself I may never do girls this pretty and with such great bodies again for the rest of my life back in the us. Makes me a little sad. Once my kids go off to college I just may move here though I don't know how long this place will last as there are so many tourist here.

While walking down beach road I see a lot to foreign girls on vacation with their bfs / husbands. They are cows compared to a lot of the FL. Even a hot one is not that noticeable. I feel bad for them. Their twat value has been dramatically reduced. I would never bring a girl here or maybe they like it here as no one hits on them.

PM me and I will send you the info.

Stay horny my friend...

Uncle V.

[QUOTE=Matong36;1572073]Hello Uncle V,

Might you care to share the contact of the condo? It is a really good deal and I always want to impress the ladies. Thank you in advance![/QUOTE]

After my sweet clinger, (her real name is Puyar) left I went down to the pool for a nice swim, grabbed some delicious food at the market just a short walk from my hotel and took a long nap to recharge. I also actually did get a couple of hours of work done as well, so I guess I wasn't completely dishonest when I told her she had to go because I had to work.

I decided to avoid walking street altogether tonight, so as not to run into my little bundle of static cling. The plan was to hit Soi LK Metro and to check out some of the go go girls that Sir Lance-a-Lot had reviewed in his excellent reports. Unfortunately for some reason the particular report could not be accessed (it just had the pictures but no text). However I did remember the name of some of the Gogos he mentioned: Champagne and Crystal.

After a long hot songtow ride (it was Saturday night and traffic was terrible) I finally arrived at Soi LK Metro at around 11 PM. Desperate to get out of the heat I ducked into Crystals. The waitress gave me a very friendly smile and ushered me to a table with a good view and close to the bar. Business was a bit slow. Maybe less than 10 customers in the whole place (lots of empty booths). There were about 6-7 girls dancing on stage, 3 or 4 of which were very doable. The waitress was very friendly and super cute. Around 30, darker, sexy slim body and a great pair of long silky brown legs. She sat next to me and put her hand on my lap and we chatted. She asked me which girl I liked and I told her I liked her, complimenting her on her legs. By then I had my hands on them stroking their silky smoothness. She was a bundle of energy and kept jumping up to serve customers, seat people, etc. But she kept coming back to me and I'd slide my hands between her thighs. Damn I will remember those legs for a long time!

I bought my sexy waitress an LD and sat back to watch the show. Just then I spotted the most incredible ass I have seen in a long time. It was attached to a light skin girl with voluptuous proportions and a so so face. But oh my god that ass! It made me remember Kumbu's trip reports and his obsession with "ass meat". I think I understand it now. This was the very definition of ass meat. Kumbu, buddy if you are in Pattaya get thee to Crylstal's ASAP! I am sorry I can't remember this girl's name or number but if she is down there you will find her. That ass stands out like the north star on a cloudless night.

BTW: Kumbu, we miss you old friend. This forum has not been quite the same without your wonderfully written posts. I hope you will return some day.

I tell my lovely waitress to go get Ms Ass Meat and soon I have my arms around both of them. We make chit chat. I learn that Ms. AM is form Chiang Mai (explains the light complexion)! She also has braces, which is cute. My hands fondle the folds of her ass spilling out of her shorts. It is supple, ealstic, and fells amazing to the touch. My other hand is stroking the silky smooth thighs of the waitress lady. Happy as a clam! After buying a round of LDs they also start stroking my cock, which is hard as a flagpole now. A little embarrassing as I am wearing linen pants and my erection sticks right out when I get up to go to the bathroom. We have a good laugh about it -- man these girls are fun!

They suggest that I take them both home for a threesome. A damned appealing thought. But I want to check out some of the other places on Soi LK metro and it's still a bit early for me. In retrospect I regret not taking them right away as I am sure it would have been a fun experience. But wanderlust is a demanding mistress. After another half hour of stroking and another round of LDs I say my goodbyes, promising to come back. But of course I never will. Writing this now I think I missed out on a great experience and if I go back to Pattaya this summer I will definitely go back to Crystal to find these two.

My erection somewhat subsided, I stumble into Champagne next door. Terrible line up of girls and I see nothing to my liking. Strangely enough it is much more packed than Crystal next door! Go figure. I'm also seated next to an obnoxious white "Hip hop" style guy from the US. Pulling off this style is ok if you are in your 20's. But after 30? Way too many of these guys in Pattaya for my taste. And he is rude to the girls. I almost want to slug him. In any case I leave the joint without even finishing my beer.

I contemplate going back to Crystal, but that ***** wanderlust has other ideas. Plus I need some food. So I stop and have a nice plate of noodles for 60 baht at the Kiss Food Court (right opposite Mike's Shopping Mall). At this point I I'm Puyar to see if she is still at Red Car. She says she is but she is getting ready to go home. "I no want mens". She asks me if I will come to get her. I tell her no, that I am too wiped out form last night and that I will sleep. Maybe my old haunt Red Car is not off the table for tonight? In any case its only about 12:30 and I decide to kill some time at another go go before hitting Red Car.

I remember that I had great success a few years ago at Jim Beam, a go go / resaturant bad that is just a couple of blocks away. In fact I BF'd the best girl of the trip there. (see pics from 2010). A long shot, but maybe she is still working there or maybe I will find another hottie like her? In any case I figure that it's worth a visit for old time's sake if nothing else.

Well I don't have much luck at Jim Beam. None of the girls there are really to my taste, except for one very cute girl who is with another customer (I make a mental note to maybe come back to see her). Plus I get stuck with a very unappealing girl who just can't' get the message that I am not interested. Also a lot of pressure to buy LDs there (maybe as there aren't that many customers? And they do the whole ping pong ball thing. Which, if you are not in the right mood, is kind of demeaning and sad to see. Again I leave after about 15 minutes without even finishing my beer.

I hit beach road and make my way to walking street, still thinking of Red Car. I am like a moth to a flame with that place. Beach road is full of ladies, some of which aren't too bad. But I don't really see anyone I like and I guess I am still a little sketched out by that seen. Though I know this is something I need to get over. Maybe I will make a point of taking a girl from there next trip just to break my BR cherry.

I hit WS and it is its usual chaotic mess. Not sure if I should hit Red Car yet as its still a little too early and Puyar might be there ready to pounce. I walk around WS a bit to kill some time. Some good FL talent! I spot a very sexy thing outside 7-11 (also a great pick up spot! Curvy, big tits, and light skinned. Very "Chinese looking" with long black hair. We make chit chat and she tells me she is only interested in ST. I finally convince her to do LT ("I good man. Make you happy! For 3 K. I know this is overpriced but the girl is damn sexy. However she balks when I tell her I am staying in Jomtien. In retrospect I guess I coudl have offered her more and she's probably have taken it (say 300 baht for taxi). But I was not getting the best vibe form this girls and I was a little suspicious that she may be a runner. Oh well!

There were plenty of other targets on WS. But it is just too damned hot to be outside running around looking for girls.

So I decided to go into Red Car. The plan was to case the joint to see if Puyar was not there. I made two careful recon rounds around the bar. RC was packed and there were some good prospects. And Puyar was nowhere to be found. The coast is clear! Maybe she did go home already! Smacking my lips I order a beer and make another pass around, surveying the targets. I make my choice and begin to approach a tall and sexy young thing in a curve hugging dress. But low and behold! Who pops up next to me but bouncy little Puyar!

Just my luck she was in the bathroom with her friends while I was doing my recon rounds. She is pissed and gives me a little punch in the chest. I protest and tell her I came looking for her, suggesting that I wanted to see for myself if she was picking up guys. Though I don't say so explicitly I let this idea play in her head. Though she is pissed at first she is happy to see me and is soon hugging and clinging to me. I figure WTF. There are worse ways to end the evening. And the way she is jealous is very cute too. I take her hand and lead her out. 20 minutes later we are in my condo and I am doing her on the balcony, desk, bathroom, etc. Sex on the desk with the mirror behind us gives me a super hot view of her lovely back tattoo (see pic). It's also a good position for me to pump away at her tight little pussy.

Another night of passionate sex with a nice morning round to follow. This girl is so in to me! I again have to make the excuse that I need to work to get her to leave. She is out the door by 2 PM. Though she did not ask for money I giver her 1500 Bht. Maybe I could have gotten a freebie. But this would only complicate things and I really don't want to encourage any more clinging on her part.

In retrospect maybe I should have just told her the truth at RC and continued my evening. But I was afraid of hurting her feelings (she is really very sweet). She continue to I'm me throughout the trip and sent me some very sad messages -- all of which I ignored. So I ended up hurting her anyway. Though, to think about it, in Thai and Asian culture face is important and she would have lost it if I'd blown her off at the bar in front of her friends. So maybe this way is better.

I still feel kind of bad about hurting her feelings. Maybe I should respond to her IMs. Btu I really don't want to encourage her crush.

In any case it was another great evening in Pattaya.

Stay tuned for episode 5, where Uncle V proves that 2 birds in the Bush can be worth more than a bird in hand.

Stay horny my friends...

Uncle V.

Since I can't seem to get a simple answer I will have to take thing into my own hands and go out tonight at 10 pm to find out for myself if the curfew is being extended by the clubs. It has been reported that they open early but each night I have heard that the curfew is being extended and extended each night since it started? Today I asked a few 7/11 in different areas and they all told me open 24/7 again? I will head out and see how far I get?

[QUOTE=AmaBondSx;1572074]While walking down beach road I see a lot to foreign girls on vacation with their bfs / husbands. They are cows compared to a lot of the FL. [/QUOTE]Copy. When you live in Asia (me 14 years) then you're finished with those girls (cows). They are simply not more longer girls or women, just carbon units.

[QUOTE=Ekspat;1572329]Copy. When you live in Asia (me 14 years) then you're finished with those girls (cows). They are simply not more longer girls or women, just carbon units.[/QUOTE]Too funny! The same thought has definitely crossed my mind now that I am back home. And I live in Moscow -- not the dairy farm that the US has become!

Got my answer?

I decided to go out around 8:45 pm from the Darkside. Did a cruise around Soi Buakhao and Soi 6, and finally ended up on W.S. At 9:30 pm. Everything seem as nothing was going to close so I decided to park my bike at the normal spot and the guy told me close at 10 pm, which surprise me. I walked to through Marine and did not noticed that things will be shut down in half hour but when 10 came around customers were flying out into W.S. And lights were starting to deem? I walked around for a while watching the clubs closing although the lights were closing not sure where people were heading? So after back to the bike starting heading up Pattaya Thai, never once did I see any of the BIB even on Sukhumvit while I headed by up to the Darkside and it was near 11 pm. All the food stalls, noodle places were all open lights on light nothing was happening. All the 7/11 were all open with lights deem outside but full inside.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1572185]I decided to avoid walking street altogether tonight, so as not to run into my little bundle of static cling. The plan was to hit Soi LK Metro and to check out some of the go go girls that Sir Lance-a-Lot had reviewed in his excellent reports. Unfortunately for some reason the particular report could not be accessed (it just had the pictures but no text). However I did remember the name of some of the Gogos he mentioned: Champagne and Crystal.[/QUOTE]Firstly, I'm really enjoying your reports. Not sure why mine have disappeared but you remembered correctly that I really liked Crystal Club on Soi LK Metro. I did go to Champagne which was okay but nowhere near the standard of Crystal Club.

Admin. I'm not sure why but all of the text for my following reports have disappeared, leaving only the photos. This didn't happen for all of my reports, only the following ones. Can you please rectify otherwise I will have to repost.

04-25-14: #14450 (Pattaya thread): Thailand and Burma diary, day 19, Pattaya.

04-24-14: #14442 (Pattaya thread): Thailand and Burma diary, day 18, Pattaya.

04-24-14: #14437 (Pattaya thread): Thailand and Burma diary, day 17, Pattaya.

04-23-14: #14434 (Pattaya thread): Thailand and Burma diary, day 16, Pattaya.

04-21-14: #14426 (Pattaya thread): Thailand and Burma diary, day 15, Pattaya.

04-18-14: #14413 (Pattaya thread): Thailand and Burma diary, day 13, Pattaya.

04-13-14: #279 (Burma. General Info): Thailand and Burma diary, days 7 and 8, Bagan.

04-08-14: #27818 (Bangkok thread): Thailand and Burma diary, days 2, Bangkok.

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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1572398]Firstly, I'm really enjoying your reports. Not sure why mine have disappeared but you remembered correctly that I really liked Crystal Club on Soi LK Metro. I did go to Champagne which was okay but nowhere near the standard of Crystal Club.[/QUOTE]

Coming form you this is high praise.

Did you run into the sexy waitress at Crystal I wrote about in the report? Man you would not forget those legs! Wish I could remember her name though. The oen drawback to writing these reports is that you start obsessing about this stuff. The memory of their supple smoothness is haunting me! LOL And I didn't even barfine her!

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle V.

PS: I hope we get you reports back up. They are truly full of great info. You covered an amazing amount of ground on your trip!

Very uneventful day. Breakfast in morning then tennis then Soi 6 for a nooner. Nom at Sweet Dreams. This girl was a 10 sweet, petite and tight body, sadly, virtually no English and no BJ even with condom. I didn't care, she was so hot and I did her for a long time in many positions, still an 8 experience. Looking in the mirrors while doing her was also a turn on. 1000 her, 350 room. Walked all around town, got teeth cleaned at dental clinic on 2nd Road 50 meters south of Soi 13,1000 bht. They were professional and seemed to do a good job. I signed up for an introductory scuba class right by the Walking Street entrance (3000 bht), but it was cancelled by midnight, because not enough people signed up, maybe tomorrow. Cute Russian girl signed me up. Took a beach street fl to my hotel on way back. She was a tiny and slim girl and with clothes on, she was a 9, with off 5 as she had stretch marks from child birth, still a 5 experience. 1000 bht.

Its been 7 days and I have done over 20 girls. They are starting to all run together in my mind. I am doing fantastic looking girls much better than the US. Unfortunately, they have lost a bit of their allure. Maybe I am just getting jaded and need a day off to recharge. I don't know how I am going to handle the girls back home. They will have so much less appeal. I'd like to come here every year for vacation. I used miles for this trip. Anyone get any great deals from the Midwest round trip to BKK?

Last night at the stroke of ten, the go go bars on LK Metro began turning off their lights and kicking out customers. Even the 7-11's and Family Marts were shutting down promptly, but the food stalls and carts and the street vendors didn't seem in a hurry to end operations. The girls who poured out of the bars didn't appear to make any effort to hook up with customers.

While walking home (ca 10.15 to 10.30 pm), I saw almost all the beer bars along Soi Bukhao, as well as the Thai hole-in-the-wall places on Soi 15, were already deserted. The same two cops as I saw the previous two nights were checking the Thai places on Soi 15. I did not witness the following, but read elsewhere that a few darkened beer bars that had stayed open past 10 pm got a return visit from the cops at 11 pm. Nobody was arrested or seriously hassled, but a few people, Thai and farang, were yelled at and the bars were immediately closed.

Bottom line: No signs of any relaxation of the mandated 10 pm closing time, at least not in the LK Metro- Soi Bukhao area. If anything, it's becoming more strict.

Evil.

Changed hotels to Pattaya Nobel Place on Soi 13/2. Rooms large and ok clean 600 bht per night, no where near as nice as Whitehouse but much cheaper than the 1500 baht. Changed because I didn't reserve Whitehouse long enough. Oil massage 300 baht across street at happy massage from a pretty girl 9/10. No boom boom only hand job for 300 baht gave extra 100 because massage was so good. Did 2 fls from beach road. A 6 anda 8 for 700 and 1000 bht, 5 and 8 experience, respectively. May do scuba tomorrow if enough people sign up. I almost forgot, I tried to go to a shooting range but when I got there no 9 mm or .45 ammo because of military took the ammo. Just my luck.

After Puyah, my little clinger form the night before, leaves I do my usual Jomtien routine: pool, eat, work and nap. Inplotting out the next night's activities I decided to avoid Red Car entirely. I know Puyar would be there and I do not want to run into her again and complicate things.

SO the plan is to hit up a few gogos armed with Sit Lance-a Lots list (his reports from Walking Street Gogos was still up on ISG at this point). I hit WS around 11 and choose Alcatraz for my first visit. The place is pretty rockign with some very cute girls on stage. I 'm unable to find any of Sir-L's girls. However, I do spot a smoking hot girl with huge fake boobs and an amazingly fit body. Some pretty prominent tattoos including a full back tattoo. (I'm not a fan of tattos, but she makes up for it with the perfect litheness of her body. Not an ounce of fat on her! And also with her adorable Siamese kitty face. A real stunner. #109 (sorry I can't remember her name. Maybe Noi or Na?

I get her to join me and soon she is giving me a sexy lap dance and gyrating her sexy ass against my crotch. We hit it off right away (probably the LDs I by her) and soon we are making out and I have my hands all over her glorious fun bags. I can taste the sting of tequila as we kiss and it makes me want her even more. We have a little bit of privacy as the table between my booth and the stage is large and obstructs the view. Plus it's pretty dark in there too. I have my hand on her panties and am rubbing my finger on her pussy through the fabric. She is stroking my member through my pants. Hot stuff!

She is ready to go with me for 3 K plus barfine (can't quite remember the amount). But it's just too early for me and I really want to check out a few more gogos from Sir L's list. I tell her I have to meet a friend but that I will be back for her in an hour. She agrees, and I add that she should go if she gets another offer and I am not back by then. She gives me a passionate kiss goodbye and I leave remembering the old adage about a bird in hand. Especially poignant after last night's experience at Crystal. Maybe this decision will come back to haunt me?

I make the rounds at Soi Diamond. Beach Club has a good line up. I see Sir L's rec #405 - cute but not better than #109 at Alcatraz. I have a beer and buy a very young cute thing (sorry can't find her # in my notes) an LD while fondling her supple young body. A cute teen girl next door type. I really like her. But I am more in the mood for a Bond Girl (like #109) tonight so I move on. (Though I make a mental note of her for a future visit).

Next up Super Baby. I had great luck there my last visit, repeating with a very sexy girl. So I figure its worth a visit. The place is very dead. Only three customers total and maybe 6 girls. But three of the six are very hot. I buy #9 a drink. She is sexy in a classy way and looks a bit more Chinese than Thai. But not much action with her compared to my visit with Ms #109. So I move across the street to sister bar Super Girl. Totally dead and very haggard looking girls. It's after midnight now and I think it's just too late for these places. Though they are dead I love the old school ambience of these bars. 60's era bar furniture and crazy Buddhist flowers upholstering the ceiling. You feel like you are back in the Vietnam war era. Definitely worth a trip earlier in the evening.

Next is Heaven Above. I am unimpressed with the lineup. But I do spot one absolute stunning girl. #736. Beautiful alabaster skin, nice full natural see cups, and (a rarity for Thailand) rose colored nipples! I beckon her over for a drink. Unfortunately her English is almost non existence and I struggle with my 5 words of Thai. I need the mamasan to translate. Turns out she is a total newbie and nto even availabel to be BF for tonight. Mamsan says that maybe tomorrow and that her BF will be 2 k! I consider it for about a second. I just wish I was in town longer to see how this little sexy thing develops. Guys if anyone wants to top by Heaven above to check out this gem I think it may be worth it. And please let me know how it goes.

I check my watch and It's almost been over an hour and a half since I left Alcatraz. Time to call it quits and head back to get Ms #109. And of course when I get there she is already gone, BF'd by someone else. Another hard lesson for old Uncle V?

I wander aimlessly down WS. Not quite sure about my next move. Maybe hit up an FL? Maybe check out another gogo? Just then I spot two sexy young things ducking into Insomnia bar. I decide to go in and check it out. EUREKA! Wall to wall FLs. Many young and sexy too! Perhaps I have found a worthy alternative to Red Car? Things are looking up.

In retrospect I can't' quite understand how I missed this place. I seem to vaguely remember it being around a few years ago during my last trip. But I guess it's easy to lose track of things on the chaos of liberality that is walking street.

I case the joint looking for available targets. The place is packed and all the tables are taken. Luckily I find a free bar stool along the wall where the entrance to the bathrooms is also located. Opposite me is a handsome dark lady. Not quite my taste as she is a little old. But she's also friendly and we clink glasses. I don't notice at first but she is joined by a very sexy companion with the most amazing rack I have seen thus far in my trip. A guy comes over and tried to chat her up, but she politely refuses. After a few minutes I screw up my courage and make an approach.

She is surprisingly friendly and we ease into a good joking rapport. I buy the ladies a round of drinks and order a hookah and we are soon all having a good time. These girls are FUN. Ms big boobs is named Pin, and the sexy smaller girl is Na. I especially love how animated they are whenever a Thai song comes on. They sing to me about the pain in their Jai as they pull their hands to their hearts. Reminds me of the way people often pantomime when the song from Grease comes on in a club (or the way they used to do this a decade or so ago. Damn I am getting old).

Pim, gets friendlier and friendlier as I keep buying them drinks. Soon we are making out and I tell her I want to take her back to my place. "You take my friend Na too? Sure why not! "2,000 me her OK?" Fucking A-OK!! Little Na jumps up and down for joy and gives me a big hug. I end up taking turns making out with each one, both of them still in my arms. I even get them to kiss. Pim is a little reluctant but Na is gung ho. Even grabbing Pim's bodacious boobies. I am as proud as a peacock sandwiched between these two sexy ladies, grinding away to the music. I AM THE FUCKING MAN TONIGHT! What a turn of events!

We get back to the condo just before sunrise and the fun continues. I fix a round of cocktail and take a quick shower. Na jumps in the shower and I start making out with Pim on the couch, squeezing those gorgeous boobs and sliding my hand between her legs to rub her pussy. She begins moaning with pleasure. After a while Na comes out wrapped in a towel and Pin goes in to take the shower. I unwrap the towel and Na has a nice lean body. She starts giving me a nice blowjob getting me super hard. I slide on a condom and pull her on top of me. We go through a couple of positions and Pim comes out of the bathroom and slides into bed next to us. I pull out of Na and take off the condom and Pim starts giving me head as I massage those lovely titties of hers. I can't wait any longer, and I put a fresh condom on and slide into Pim and we go through a bunch of positions. Na caresses my back and hugs me fingering herself the whole time. After a while I am ready to cum. I lay in the middle of the bed with both girls on either side of me as they take turns giving me head and wanking me. Pim eventually wanks me to a glorious finish as Na clings to me, kissing my neck and rubbing herself up against my leg. As I enjoy the afterglow both girls are kissing my shoulders and neck. After a quick clean up in the bathroom I curl up between them and the three of us fall asleep wrapped in each others' arms.

What an amazing experience! Life is beautiful!!

So two birds in the Bush can beat one in the hand. Uncle V is confused, but grateful and awe struck by the ways of the universe.

In the next episode Uncle V's good fortune continues as divine intervention allows his menage a trois to continue well into the next day.

Stay horny my friends...

Uncle V.

I'm reading conflicting posts about certain bars either very busy or very dead. Are all areas in Pattaya impacted by the 10 p.m curfew? I return in September, any hints that life will go back to normal by then? If the curfew is still in place, are there girls still to be found before 10 p.m?

I found this in my research:

BANGKOK—Thailand's ruling military eased its curfew to minimize the impact on the public and tourism, as some industry groups and foreign investors expressed optimism the junta will quickly take steps to reverse the Thai economy's slide after months of political gridlock.

The ruling military said it was shortening its overnight curfew to four hours, from midnight to 4 a.m., six days after seizing power May 22. The relaxation came after state tourism officials reported a 20% fall in the number of visitors in recent days at a meeting with Adm. Narong Pipatanasai, commander of the Royal Thai Navy, who oversees tourism and social ministries.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1573024]I'm reading conflicting posts about certain bars either very busy or very dead. Are all areas in Pattaya impacted by the 10 p.m curfew? I return in September, any hints that life will go back to normal by then? If the curfew is still in place, are there girls still to be found before 10 p.m?[/QUOTE]The curfew is for all of Thailand, not just Pattaya. Maybe the conflicting information you are reading is about things that happened before the curfew was in effect or if not, things that are happening before 10 pm. Of course it has changed to midnight now.

[QUOTE=AmaBondSx]I don't know how I am going to handle the girls back home. They will have so much less appeal. I'd like to come here every year for vacation. Anyone get any great deals (on airfare) from the Midwest round trip to BKK?[/QUOTE]LOL! Most guys come to that conclusion after their first trip. Pattaya is such an amazing place.

Don't know what you mean by the "Midwest," but your best bet is likely going to be Chicago (ORD) to Bangkok (BKK). I like the search engine on [URL]Kayak.com[/URL], but there are numerous other sites where you can do the same thing. I just ran a sample search for ORD-BKK and return, leaving in mid-December of this year and returning 30 days later. The coach fares were in the $1500 - $2000 range. Booking earlier you could probably get that down to $1300 - $1500. Obviously, United Airlines owns ORD. Most those flights connect in Narita. You can also fly east on Turkish Airlines, connecting in Istanbul. That's not as crazy as it sounds. I've made that trip and the experience was not that bad. Coming back on that carrier, however, watch out for a long layover. If you can fly out of Dallas (DFW) Qatar Airways is now a partner with American Airlines (AA). Those trips connect in Doha, at the brand-spanking-new Hamad International Airport.

Seeya on the Six!

Bunky.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1573012]After Puyah, my little clinger form the night before, leaves I do my usual Jomtien routine: pool, eat, work and nap. Inplotting out the things.

I get her to join me and soon she is giving me a sexy lap dance and gyrating her sexy ass against my crotch. We hit it off right away (probably the LDs I by her) and soon we are making out and I have my hands all over her glorious fun bags. I can taste the sting of tequila as we kiss and it makes me want her even more. We have a little bit of privacy as the table between my booth and the stage is large and obstructs the view. Plus it's pretty dark in there too. I have my hand on her panties and am rubbing my finger on her pussy through the fabric. She is stroking my member through my pants. Hot stuff!
bar Super Girl. feel like you are back in the Vietnam

Pim, gets friendlier and friendlier as I keep buying them drinks. Soon we are making out and I tell her I want to take her back to my place. "You take my friend Na too? Sure why not! "2,000 me her OK?" Fucking A-OK!! Little Na jumps up and down for joy and gives me a big hug. I end up taking turns making out with each one, both of them still in my arms. I even get them to kiss. Pim is a little reluctant but Na is gung ho. Even grabbing Pim's bodacious boobies. I am as proud as a peacock sandwiched between these two sexy ladies, grinding away to the music. I AM THE FUCKING MAN TONIGHT! What a turn of events!


Stay horny my friends...

Uncle V.[/QUOTE]Well done Uncle V, great score on the thb 2,000 girls.I am definitely hitting this place on my next trip. Keep entertaining us with more of your exploits. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Bunky;1573324]LOL! Most guys come to that conclusion after their first trip. Pattaya is such an amazing place.

Don't know what you mean by the "Midwest," but your best bet is likely going to be Chicago (ORD) to Bangkok (BKK). I like the search engine on [URL]Kayak.com[/URL], but there are numerous other sites where you can do the same thing. I just ran a sample search for ORD-BKK and return, leaving in mid-December of this year and returning 30 days later. The coach fares were in the $1500 - $2000 range. Booking earlier you could probably get that down to $1300 - $1500. Obviously, United Airlines owns ORD. Most those flights connect in Narita. You can also fly east on Turkish Airlines, connecting in Istanbul. That's not as crazy as it sounds. I've made that trip and the experience was not that bad. Coming back on that carrier, however, watch out for a long layover. If you can fly out of Dallas (DFW) Qatar Airways is now a partner with American Airlines (AA). Those trips connect in Doha, at the brand-spanking-new Hamad International Airport.

Seeya on the Six!

Bunky.[/QUOTE]The past couple years I flown out of Tampa to BKK on Delta, either through Atlanta or Detroit. Fare is in the $1600 for September, which seems to be a lower fare time of the year for the trip. The plus is you can use miles to reduce the fair (10,000 miles = $100 off the fare), on the downside, you may not get the miles (20,000) for the trip if you do use them in to reduce the fare. There are cheaper fares on some of the Asian airlines, but I don't like the routes and layovers as noted here. If you book directly out of Atlanta or Detroit, it is probably cheaper.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1573396]Well done Uncle V, great score on the thb 2,000 girls.I am definitely hitting this place on my next trip. Keep entertaining us with more of your exploits. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Thanks Action Man! Here is the next installment. (And just to be clear. I agree to 2 K Bht each for these girls).

I wake up with little Na clinging to me. Pim is turned over to her side snoring away. I begin kissing and stroking Na's shoulders and neck. We start making out and I guide her hand to my penis. She start giving me a blow job. Good morning! I pull on a condom and enter her in mish. Slow at first but soon I'm pounding away. I want to see if I can wake Pim up so that she joins the fun. But she's still fast asleep. I finish with little Na in doggy, and I am also sure Na has come at least once. We go back to sleep with Na cuddling up to me.

I wake up again after a short nap and this time it's Pim that is cuddled up with me. I start stroking her like I did with Na but she is not into it. It's obvious she is feeling pretty rough from all the drinking from the night before. At one point she even gets up to run to the bathroom to throw up. Poor girl.

We begin out day and I make the girls coffee. Pim is still feeling pretty rough, but Na is bright and cheerful. She loves the view from the balcony. She bounces around singing to the Thai music on the TV as she tidies up the room. She pauses intermittently to give me little hugs. She is a joy to be around.

I take a few pics of the girls on the balcony and we exchange contact info. Just as they are getting ready to leave it starts pouring outside. Pim asks if they can stay until the rain stops. Of course! She is still feling a bit rough so I give her some advil and she goes back to sleep. I catch up on emails while Na continues to do her thing. She cuddles up to me and I show her some pictures from my life and my travels in Thailand. She is really such a sweet little thing. She oohs and ahhs over my pictures, telling me I am a gooood man and that she likes me tooo much.

The storm lets up. I'm hungry. Pim is still sleeping away. I suggest to Na that we go and get some food. She is enthusiastic and we take Pim's order as well. We walk down the beach to the little food court about 5 minutes away, holding hands the whole time. We order the food and decide to grab some drinks form 7-11 and kill some time at the beach. Though I was not all that attracted to her at first I am really warming up to this girl. She has such a warm personality and looks adorable in my college T-shirt as we wade in the sand of Jomtien beach. (see pic).

We get our food and go back to the condo. We wake up Pim and begin our lunch. Na takes charge right away, setting the table and getting the dishes ready as Pim groggily goes to the table. A real feast awaits us; Tom yum Goong, Noodles, egg Omelets, Papaya Salad with Crab. Just delicious and I don't think I paid more than 500 baht for all of it with drinks. I am really enjoying these girls company. Their sing song voices fill the room as they prattle on in Thai. I imagine what it would be like to have these two as my wives and live in real menage a trois. What a great combination these two make.

Na the little domesticated housewife. Pim my little prima donna. When I tease her tah tshe is lazy compared to na she playfully says: "I singer lady.".

Pim is feeling much better after the food. Interestingly Na tells eher to chew on the galangal form the Tom Yum Goong. This is supposed to be some kind of hangover cure and it seems to work wonders for Pim.

It starts raining hard again and the girls are goign nowhere. I joke that I paid to have it rain so that they will stay with me. We settle in to bed and watch some TV, cuddled up together. After a while I start stroking and kissing Pim and we follow up the same routine as the night before. I take turns fucking them, first Pim then Na. They finish me off the same way again, me sandwiched between them with Pim wanking me off. This time I unload all over her beautiful breasts. She is miffed at first, but laughs it off and runs to the bathroom to take a shower as I cuddle with Na. Na tells me she will be going back home tomorrow. Something about legally changing her name for luck. She wants to stay with me again tonight. I tell her I will definitely think about it but that I have to get up very early the next day. (True as I am taking my first diving class).

The rain finally lets up at around 5 PM and the girls get ready to leave. They happily accept the 2 K each that I give them and Na gives me an appreciative hug. I take them down to the lobby to get their IDs and bid my farewells. I give both a kiss on the mouth as they get on the moto taxi. The doormen are very impressed and I am feeling like a real stud. "Where you find lady? How much you pay?

I go back and catch up on work and emails. As I tidy up I find this cute little note that Na has left me. She has also left me a pair of her panties (see pic) .

I start getting ready to leave myself as I have an appointment with my tailor at 8 PM. Ama fashion on Central Road. Absolutely perfect quality and service. I highly recommend them. I had some dress shirts done and have already gotten compliments about how well they fit me since I've been home.

I finish with the tailor around 8 and grab some dinner at the food court at Central mall. I am pretty tires and plan on taking it easy as the dive bus will pick me up at 8 AM the next day. I decide to restrict my activities to a recon of the gogos and not to take a girl tonight. I need my rest after my extended menage. I want to be back in bed by midnight. A little bit of making out and heavy petting with a gogo girl should be enough for me tonight.

I walk back to WS along beach road. Plenty of talent, but I'm not really in the mood tonight for an ST in a seedy hotel. I arrive at WS and survey Spanky's (no girls to my taste) and Super Girl / Baby (just as dead as they were last night). I finally decide to go back to Airport. That place is always rocking and it would be nice to pick up where I left off with Fa from three nights ago.

Airport is its usual raucous self. The place is packed but somehow the chubby waitress manages to find a good spot for me. A good selection of girls and they are really partying hard. Gyrating wildly to the music. A girl approaches who I think is Fa (a sweetie I ran into my first night in Pattaya) and I enthusiastically invite her to come wit with me. She is friendly but does not seem to recognize me and after a while I realize its not Fa, but a very similarly built girl. Funny how this kind of stuff can happen in Pattaya. Anyhow its too late now. Besides, this girl is also sexy and friendly so I buy her and LD. I start making my moves on her but the folks form the bar simply will not leave us alone. Pressure to buy lady drinks come from all sides: from other bar girls, from the shot girls, etc. Very annoying! To top it all off there is a very drunken girl in the bar going around and hitting customers with one of those foam whips. For some reason she zeroes in on me and starts beating me with it. . It doesn't hurt but the sound itself is really annoying. I take the damned thing away from her and won't' give it back. I love airport but it can get too out of hand some times. I pay my bill and leave. TO their credit the girls are quite contrite and beg me to stay. But I am just no into this scene right now.

Plus it's getting close to midnight. I figure I have one more stop to go before bed time. I decide to see if I can find Ms #109 at Alcatraz. I walk in and head straight to the bathroom (in my haste to leave airport I did not take care of business there). #109 grabs me on my way out and asks me about last night. I tell her I came back for her but that she already left. She says she knows as the other girls told her. We settle into the booth and she gives me a nice lap dance. Man I love this girl. She has a 60's Bond girl body with modern day silicones! After a couple of tequila shots (she gets me to do one reluctantly) we are making out and groping each other madly. She says she wants me to BF her but I explain that I have to get up very early in the morning and promise her I will take her some other day, when I don't have business to attend to. She buys this excuse and we continue our heavy petting session. After a while I get up to leave and she gives me a passionate kiss goodbye. This experience is just what the doctor ordered! And I show my appreciation by giving her a 300 Bht tip.

I grab a moto taxi and am back in bed by 12:30. What an awesome day! I fall asleep thinking about my "Thai wives" and about the delicious Bond Girl waiting for me at Alcatraz.

Stay horny my friends..

Uncle V.

[QUOTE=Bunky;1573324]LOL! Most guys come to that conclusion after their first trip. Pattaya is such an amazing place.

Don't know what you mean by the "Midwest," but your best bet is likely going to be Chicago (ORD) to Bangkok (BKK). I like the search engine on [URL]Kayak.com[/URL], but there are numerous other sites where you can do the same thing. I just ran a sample search for ORD-BKK and return, leaving in mid-December of this year and returning 30 days later. The coach fares were in the $1500 - $2000 range. Booking earlier you could probably get that down to $1300 - $1500. Obviously, United Airlines owns ORD. Most those flights connect in Narita. You can also fly east on Turkish Airlines, connecting in Istanbul. That's not as crazy as it sounds. I've made that trip and the experience was not that bad. Coming back on that carrier, however, watch out for a long layover. If you can fly out of Dallas (DFW) Qatar Airways is now a partner with American Airlines (AA). Those trips connect in Doha, at the brand-spanking-new Hamad International Airport.

Seeya on the Six!

Bunky.[/QUOTE]To Bunky.

Cathay pacific have 3 flight a day from JFK or Chicago to HKG or 3 flight a day from LAX from HKG to Bangkok 5 flight a day short layover in Hong Kong service is better than United fare is around 1400 USD during high season right now.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1573475] I fall asleep thinking about my "Thai wives" and about the delicious Bond Girl waiting for me at Alcatraz.
Uncle V.[/QUOTE]It is obvious that you know how to get the most out of Pattaya, Uncle V.

Now you know why I live here. It's paradise on Earth!

Regards, Daddy.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1573475]Thanks Action Man! Here is the next installment. (And just to be clear. I agree to 2 K Bht each for these girls).

What an awesome day! I fall asleep thinking about my "Thai wives" and about the delicious Bond Girl waiting for me at Alcatraz.

Stay horny my friends..

Uncle V.[/QUOTE]Uncle V, another well written report. Thanks for the clarification vis-a-vis the THB 2,000 girls (I did for a moment think that you managed to score both at the final price of 2 k).

Your polyamorous lifestyle is inspiring. Had a query, can you converse in basic Thai? If not, how do you not get bored with the girls who stay LT (I mean, if you ain't screwing around, what do you talk about and how do you communicate?) I find it very difficult (and slightly annoying) to use a combination of sign language and slowly spoken english words to get the message across.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1573601]Uncle V, another well written report. Thanks for the clarification vis-a-vis the THB 2,000 girls (I did for a moment think that you managed to score both at the final price of 2 k).

Your polyamorous lifestyle is inspiring. Had a query, can you converse in basic Thai? If not, how do you not get bored with the girls who stay LT (I mean, if you ain't screwing around, what do you talk about and how do you communicate?) I find it very difficult (and slightly annoying) to use a combination of sign language and slowly spoken english words to get the message across.[/QUOTE]Thanks Action.

Most of the girls I have been with do speak some basic English, so its not that hard. I remember being with only one or two during my three trips over the last few years that had no English at all.

Pim's English is pretty good and she is talkative and has a good sense of humor. Na's English isn't as good. Btu she is very sweet and unassuming and you don't feel like you need to entertain her all the time.

It also helped that there were 2 girls and they can entertain themselves in Thai. (Another reason to do threesomes. Like we didn't have enough reasons already!)

I just enjoyed having them around, even if I was doing something else (like being on the computer, etc).

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1573528]It is obvious that you know how to get the most out of Pattaya, Uncle V.

Now you know why I live here. It's paradise on Earth!

Regards, Daddy.[/QUOTE]Thanks Daddy!

Wow you are one of the luckiest men on earth. I am seriously jealous.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1573608]Thanks Action.

Most of the girls I have been with do speak some basic English, so its not that hard. I remember being with only one or two during my three trips over the last few years that had no English at all.

Pim's English is pretty good and she is talkative and has a good sense of humor. Na's English isn't as good. Btu she is very sweet and unassuming and you don't feel like you need to entertain her all the time.

It also helped that there were 2 girls and they can entertain themselves in Thai. (Another reason to do threesomes. Like we didn't have enough reasons already!)

I just enjoyed having them around, even if I was doing something else (like being on the computer, etc).[/QUOTE]That's good to hear. Atleast the girls in Pattaya (generally) appear to be more and better conversant in English, makes negotiating, foreplay etc. Much easier. Thanks for the info.

did 2 soi 6 girls. seems like the going rate is 1000 bht and between 300 and 350 for the room. also did 4 fls from beach road. 3 were 800 bht and one 1000 bht. finally did one girl from ibar disco for 1000 bht. nothing special to report, all about 7 experience.

tried scuba for first time. 3000 baht from scuba shop right by walking street sign. only 2 people signed up but still went out. i'm sure they lost money. i decided scuba is not for me. it is good to learn stuff about yourself. also took ferry to island. at the end of walking street there is a pier. there are 3 options. 30 baht 2 hr each way, 150 baht round trip 1 hr each way. i did this one, and 400 baht speedboat 15 min each way. the beaches are much nicer. unless you are on a tight budget, take the speedboat, well worth it.

will be leaving pattaya tomorrow at 2 am. wish there were some lockers i can keep my bags after i check out. any ideas to hold a backpack and a small rolling bag from 12 noon till 2 am?

Hi,

There is the Dear I know, anyone knows her? Comments would be appreciated.

Got flight booked June 14th, but so far my frantic search for a decent girlfriendly hotel, under 50 $ has not ended, mBeen reading the entire tripadvisor reviews, unfortunatley all have. Mixed reviews, leaving me clueless, could you please suggest a hotel, with free wifi.

[QUOTE=AmaBondSx;1573865]Will be leaving Pattaya tomorrow at 2 am. Wish there were some lockers I can keep my bags after I check out. Any ideas to hold a backpack and a small rolling bag from 12 noon till 2 am?[/QUOTE]2 AM? So in the middle of the night? Or do you mean 2 PM?

If it's 2 AM I would book another night at the hotel. You don't want to walk around from 12 noon until 2 AM in the Thai climate (at least I don't).

If you meant 2 PM then you can ask your hotel reception if you can check out at 2 PM instead of noon. Usually that's possible for a couple of hundred Bath fee (unless they need the room for another customer).

Or you can ask the hotel reception to look after your luggage. Usually that's no problem.

[QUOTE]If it's 2 AM I would book another night at the hotel. You don't want to walk around from 12 noon until 2 AM in the Thai climate (at least I don't.)[/QUOTE]So the Original Poster plans to check out of his Pattaya hotel at noon, then wander around town in the tropical heat for 14 hours before departing at 2:00 am There's only one reason to leave in the middle of the night, and that's to catch a taxi to BKK in advance of a Dawn Patrol departure. By which point the guy will have probably gone 20 hours since his last shower.

I sure hope he doesn't get the seat next to me on that flight.

In all seriousness, I realize that we're all thrifty guys here. But when you travel internationally it's common to arrive and / or depart in the middle of the night. Yes, it seems like a waste of money to pay for an extra night in the hotel when you're either arriving or leaving at, say, 2:00 am But it's a cost of doing business. If you're looking to economize, book a cheaper hotel, or even a basic guesthouse, for those days at the start and end of your trip. But do yourself a favor. Have someplace where you can lie your head and take a shower, someplace you know your belongings will be secure. It will be worth every satang.

Bunky.

Arrived Marriott beach road around 4:30 pm, changed into shorts and sandals and hit beach road, walking north toward Hilton. usually pickings are slim at this time of day, but i passed 10 or 15 girls in the first 100 meters, many of them decent looking, more than just the fat ones who normally own beach road in the early afternoon. very quickly i spotted a great body, larger-than-normal breasts and a stand-up ass! so i grabbed her arm and pulled her down to sit next to me (by the way, beach road sidewalk has been totally refurbished, the benches and sitting rails are gone, no where to sit except the occasional concrete curb lining the steps to the beach). she was immediately all over me, massaging my arms, legs and very soon my cock. she pointed to all the empty umbrella chairs on the beach and kept saying "farong go away". the tourists are few due to the military coup. but now the curfew is relaxed to midnight-to-four am, so people should start coming back.

Her name was "no" from Bangkok, 26 years old, dark skinned, western looking facial features but a great Thai body. she said her father was american which accounts for her facial features. we quickly agreed to thb 1,000 for two hours. I was horny as a goat, no sex for several weeks so i wanted a quick score and this seemed to be my lucky day.

"no" seemed to be equally horny, or a combination of desperate and horny. we filled the tub with bathwater and she spread her legs and kept trying to pull me on top of her in the tub, she used her fingers to open her pussy to guide me in. the tub was too small so i made my way to the bed, she followed and started a great BBBJ. she kept asking me to give 2,000 for three hours, i laughed it off and said "maybe, depends on how good you are". we did every position imaginable in bed, she liked to cover her head with the towel she brought from the shower and pretend she was a little girl being fucked by daddy! nice role play (maybe some abuse in her childhood? then she asked me to come and watch her [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]! really? new one on me, so we went to the bathroom, she sat on the toilet, opened her legs and we both watched her [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. always something new to learn. after she washed herself thoroughly using the water spray she jumped up on the bathroom sink and pulled me in. I've heard of this position before but never tried it. not earth shattering but just the act of doing this combined with her intense thrusting and pleasure made it good for me.

Finally back to the bed. we had been going for 90 minutes by now and i was about worn out, but I wondered what would happen if i agreed to the 2,000, what happens next? so i told her i would give the 2,000, and..wow..off we went for another 30 minutes or so. i actually stuck my cock in her ass by mistake, she never flinched but pointed out to me that I was not in her pussy. I let the anal go on for a while, then shifted back to the pussy (no reaction from her, how desperate is she?

Almost three hours of non-stop action and i was done, finally blew my load. we cuddled for a while, she asked if she could leave to take care of her baby, OK with me.

thb 2,000 for almost three solid hours of intense sex.

Cute face, nice body (a few extra pounds), dark skin, playful attitude and adventuresome personality. I found her across from the Starbucks just north of the entrance to the Marriott.

One last comment, I just walked from Marriott to Hilton and back, around 9:00 pm, and I've never seen a better selection of pretty girls on beach road. i guess the curfew has caused all the freelance girls to hit the street earlier than normal. but i also saw dozens of lady boys mixed in, and they usually come out around midnight. so a fantastic selection available to suit any taste. god I love Thailand, and Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Envirosex;1573888]Hi,

There is the Dear I know, anyone knows her? Comments would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are thinking about starting a relationship with this lady and want to see what you can find out about her. Look at it like this. Thailand is an adult playground. But, it is only a dream and not reality. Have fun and leave. Don't try to justify starting a relationship with a bar girl ext. It never ends good. Have fun and leave. Don't be one of those chumps that send money every month.

Curfew ends at 4 am. Around 5:15 am I left the Marriott to walk the beach, see if anyone was out there. I found four girls directly across from Marriott / Mikes Shopping Center, turned North toward Hilton, saw three more girls, continued walking, three Lady Boys, walked a bit more and came upon three more girls. One was older, had a nice smile and nice shape so I stopped to chat. I asked if everyone had cleared out from midnight until 4 am to honor the curfew, Len said yes. Len said she went to her room and slept until 5, woke and came back to the beach. I asked about the Lady Boys, she said there seem to be more of them on Beach Road and they are around almost all day. I think this is true, since the curfew is prime Lady Boy time in Pattaya.

Len said short time was THB 500. The more we talked the more this seemed like a good idea, so we went to my room. As we showered I was impressed with her tight and shapely body because she obviously is not a young girl. She told me she is 43 years old and her 25 year old son and wife just had a baby, making Len a grandmother. As far as I know this is my first time with a grandmother! She gave an excellent BBBJ, completely unrushed and she seemed to enjoy it. She actually asked my permission to stop. The sex was acceptable, hard for me to follow up the crazy marathon I reported from yesterday, so some conventional relaxing sex with Len was just the ticket for me this morning.

THB 500 for about one hour of conventional and acceptable sex with grandma.

My observation of the 10 or so girls I saw on Beach Road at 5:30 am, a bit rugged. Only two seemed energetic and happy to be there (Len was one), most seemed ragged-out, zoned-out and should have been in their room resting (assuming they have a room in which to rest). And the Lady Boys were a drunken mess.

[QUOTE=FlyingJd;1574032]Got flight booked June 14th, but so far my frantic search for a decent girlfriendly hotel, under 50 $ has not ended, mBeen reading the entire tripadvisor reviews, unfortunatley all have. Mixed reviews, leaving me clueless, could you please suggest a hotel, with free wifi.[/QUOTE]Go to Pattay hotel thread and where do you want to stay What area?

[QUOTE=Bunky;1574258]So the Original Poster plans to check out of his Pattaya hotel at noon, then wander around town in the tropical heat for 14 hours before departing at 2:00 am There's only one reason to leave in the middle of the night, and that's to catch a taxi to BKK in advance of a Dawn Patrol departure. By which point the guy will have probably gone 20 hours since his last shower.

I sure hope he doesn't get the seat next to me on that flight.

In all seriousness, I realize that we're all thrifty guys here. But when you travel internationally it's common to arrive and / or depart in the middle of the night. Yes, it seems like a waste of money to pay for an extra night in the hotel when you're either arriving or leaving at, say, 2:00 am But it's a cost of doing business. If you're looking to economize, book a cheaper hotel, or even a basic guesthouse, for those days at the start and end of your trip. But do yourself a favor. Have someplace where you can lie your head and take a shower, someplace you know your belongings will be secure. It will be worth every satang.

Bunky.[/QUOTE]I could not agree more on this subject! What if it rains like it has been doing? You could be in your loom laying down some pipe? People are funny?

[QUOTE=FlyingJd;1574032]Got flight booked June 14th, but so far my frantic search for a decent girlfriendly hotel, under 50 $ has not ended, mBeen reading the entire tripadvisor reviews, unfortunatley all have. Mixed reviews, leaving me clueless, could you please suggest a hotel, with free wifi.[/QUOTE]Dynasty Inn Pattaya, Second Road Soi 13: [URL]http://www.dynastyinn.com/[/URL].

Standard room 1280 B. No need to take a Superior for 1480 B, the only difference is they are a little bit bigger.

Quietly located, if you take a room in the back. The rooms at the front have some noise coming from the Wonderful Bar across the soi.

Centrally located, only a 5 minute stroll to Beach Road and a 10 minute stroll to Walking Street. Plenty of beer bars in the neighbourhood.

Friendly and helpful staff. Spacious rooms with good bed, nice bath room, balcony, in-room safe, free wifi and an easy-chair. Swimming pool at the roof top.

Have I been the victim of some kind of Thai Voodoo Black Magic?

Met with a girl on Beach Rd about 9:30 pm, named Bao I think. Quite pretty, great smile, told me she is 29 and looked about that, showed me some hot dance moves and I was hooked, long ponytail, decent curves and biggish ass which I like.

Knowing the bars would close at 12 we agreed to 1,500 LT, me thinking we'the drink and dance for a couple of hours then action time back at my hotel.

While we were walking to Red Car nightclub I noticed her muttering to herself a bit now and then, I ignored and it we danced there for an hour or so, quite busy, people coming and going. We then moved on to Marine disco, quite quiet but we had another fun hour or so there with a few of her hot moves and my geriatric ones, many drinks then baht bus back to my hotel near Central. The muttering went on from time to time and I'm thinking this is weird and she would occasionally look off in the distance with a strange look in her eyes.

Anyway by now I'm quite smashed and my dick was in charge so back at the hotel we made out a little bit on the bed and then some really weird shit happened, she asked if she could cut me on the neck and draw some blood for good luck. WTF?

I said NO F'and WAY.

So she hopped in the bath and I heard the muttering again only now it's louder and more like a chant, I walked in and she stopped, I asked what are you doing? And she just gave me that smile, shrugged and looked away.

So I quickly shower and now on the bed we get into it, BBBJ, ball licking with a bit of handwork, mish and doggie for about an hour or so. I'm not a young guy and at the end of that I'm dozing off, she says do you want me to stay? Not thinking very clearly and ignoring the weird signs I'the been given, this was the ideal opportunity to get rid of her, but dumbass me says sure you stay, looking for a dawn breaker before I send her on her way in the morning.

What must have been about an hour or so later I half wake up feeling a bit itchy on my neck give it a rub and notice her going to the bathroom. Off I doze again and a little while later, I checked my watch it was 4.10 am, she woke me up saying she wants to be paid so she can go to pray at the Temple. Another WTF? Moment but this time I agree, give her the 1,500 and let her out the door. I do a quick check of the valuables and when reception call up I give the OK to return her I'd card and let her go.

While writing this I'm thinking "what a dummy I was to not notice all the signals and warnings I was getting that this was one very f*king strange lady".

Anyway I wake up at 11 ish and feel the soreness on my neck and notice blood on my fingers where I had touched it. I manage to take a selfie of my neck and see that she actually did it while I was sleeping, SHE CUT ME FOR GOOD LUCK! I've got no idea what she used and I think to myself should report this to someone?

I decide nah, let it go, so down to the pool for a few hours, brekkie, swimming etc. When I get back to my room there on the bed is a blood covered pillow case and pillow with a note from the housekeeper saying that they will charge me 650 be to replace them. Another display of my dizziness through this whole thing, I had got up and went out of the room without even noticing the blood stained pillow.

I hope the pics of my neck and pillow attach properly here to show that this is not a fantasy tale, so my questions to you all are these.

WTF happened to me?

Was I the victim of some mumbo jumbo shit?

Was I drugged in some way? I was very vague and dozy.

Has anybody else experienced anything like this?

Cheers 3 H.

[QUOTE=TomSf;1574353] Thailand is an adult playground. But, it is only a dream and not reality. Have fun and leave. Don't try to justify starting a relationship with a bar girl ext. It never ends good. Have fun and leave. Don't be one of those chumps that send money every month.[/QUOTE]*Extremely* good advice. And common sense when you think about it.

Why does this advice have to be repeated so often and why do so many guys still fall into this trap?

[QUOTE=Bunky;1574258]I sure hope he doesn't get the seat next to me on that flight. If you're looking to economize, book a cheaper hotel, or even a basic guesthouse, for the days at the start and end of your trip. But do yourself a favor. Have someplace where you can lie your head and take a shower, someplace you know your belongings will be secure. It will be worth every satang.

Bunky.[/QUOTE]Another possibility I sometimes prefer is to leave the luggage at my hotel, normally no problem and two hrs before going to the airport I take a nice massage and a shower. At the airport I change into some different / warmer clothes.

But now you also have to think about the curfew!

[QUOTE=Sammyt;1574643]Why does this advice have to be repeated so often and why do so many guys still fall into this trap?[/QUOTE]Younger first timers to TH. First timers after a divorce in Western countries. All those having no clue about the actresses in Pattaya.

[quote=amabondsx;1573865]did 2 soi 6 girls. seems like the going rate is 1000 bht and between 300 and 350 for the room. also did 4 fls from beach road. 3 were 800 bht and one 1000 bht. finally did one girl from ibar disco for 1000 bht. nothing special to report, all about 7 experience.

tried scuba for first time. 3000 baht from scuba shop right by walking street sign. only 2 people signed up but still went out. i'm sure they lost money. i decided scuba is not for me. it is good to learn stuff about yourself. also took ferry to island. at the end of walking street there is a pier. there are 3 options. 30 baht 2 hr each way, 150 baht round trip 1 hr each way. i did this one, and 400 baht speedboat 15 min each way. the beaches are much nicer. unless you are on a tight budget, take the speedboat, well worth it.

will be leaving pattaya tomorrow at 2 am. wish there were some lockers i can keep my bags after i check out. any ideas to hold a backpack and a small rolling bag from 12 noon till 2 am?[/quote]there are rooms you can rent for 400 to 500 baht. rent a room, have some more fun and more importantly wash your ass before you get on the plane.

now is not the time to try to save a few baht.

enjoyed the report.

I spend the next three days taking Scuba instruction and going on scuba trips to get my Open Water certificate. Classes and boat trips stare early. You have to be at the dive center by 98 AM every day. Bar hopping and late night pickups from Red Car or Insomnia would be off the menu. For a couple of days. But I figured I could go into town to get a relaxing soapy or hit Soi 6 for a quickie before going home early to get a good night's sleep.

Incidentally, I can't recommend Mermaid's Diving center enough. A bunch of great guys and real pros too. I learned a lot and had a real blast. One on one instruction with plenty of time under water. A great way to decompress (no pun intended) form the bar girl scene. Plus its a good alibi. You sound like less of a pervert if you tell people you are going to Thailand on a diving trip. Especially if your are going alone.

The first day of instruction, which was primarily in the pool under the hot sun really kicked my ass and I am beat. Just as I am at home gathering strength and figuring out which soapy to go to when I get a message form Pim (Ms DD from the threesome a couple of days ago). She says she misses me. I ask her if she wants to come over and have dinner and stay the night. YES! She is down with the program. I take a nap all the time thing about getting my hands on her bodacious boobies.

Pim arrives and she look stunning. She has put a lot of work into her outfit and make up to look nice for me. We have a nice dinner nearby at a place right on the beach in Jomtien and then go back to my room. We relax over a few drinks. She' fun to talk to and tells me some interesting stuff about Thai politics. She is a big supporter of the Reds and an eloquent orator. Though I don't buy her line, as it is just cheap populism, she would make a good organizer and I could see her arguments going over well with the less educated classes. There is more to this lady than I thought.

I finally get into bed and she joins me after taking a shower. She takes forever in the bathroom and I am a little annoyed with my prima donna. But she makes up for it when she gets in the bed and we have a nice lovemaking session. Her boobs are absolutely amazing, defying gravity despite being natural. They are absolutely perfect. We finish with her blowing me and wanking me off all over her tits (this will become our routine) and I settle in to sleep with my arms around her lovely little frame. She tells me she is happy that I called her. She thought I liked Na better than her! Its true I did pay more attention to Na, but its only because not seemed more into the whole thing. Maybe I inadvertedly made her jealous and am now reaping the benefits? I will never figure these girls out...

We wake up at 7 AM the next morning. I was worried that I'd have to drag her out of bed, but Pim is a trooper and gets ready very quickly. She throws up again this morning and this will be the recurrent pattern every day. Maybe she's pregnant? I tell her that I am worried about her and that she shouldn't: drink so much. She tells me that she has a stomach condition and not to worry. We kiss and go our separate ways. I give her 2 K baht and tell her I want to see her again tonight. I am getting very used to having her in my bed and this is very convenient since I again have to wake up early tomorrow.

After another day if diving, this time we go to a beautiful island just off Pattaya, I go home to rest. This is fun but grueling. Especially in the heat. Pim agrees to come over at 8 PM. She comes on her motor scooter (looking very cute with her helmet and all). The plan is to go into town and visit her sister (real sister) at the gogo she works at on WS (Tiger or something like that. Right by Soi Diamond).

We hop on the motor bike with her driving and we are in WS and at her sister's bar in a few minutes. She introduvces me to her sister who works as a Hello, girl. A little older than Pim and more Indian looking. Not really my type. But there is a resemblance. The sister is happy to meet me and tells me she has heard I am a good man. Wow! Is Pim getting serious? We go off to eat at Beer Garden and I promise to bring her hard working sister back some food.

Pim is looking mighty fine and drawing many looks from the guys on WS. I am proud as peacock as we make our way down to Beer Garden, holding hands with my beautiful little diva. We have a delicious dinner at Beer garden The waitress is very nice saying that we are a very cute couple. When she bring our appetizer. Shrimp sashimi the little shrimp are positioned on the plate in the shape of a heart. Nice touch! I enjoy Pim's company. We can talk but also have non-awkward silences where we do our own thing.

We get some food for her sister and go back to the bar. We go in and I buy her sister an LD and Pim a drink. Her sister is very friendly and jokes that I should call her sister in law. "Why not! I play along, just for fun. The bar is kind of dead and the dancers are not very sexy. I like her sister and don't mind buying her drinks. But the there is a lot of pressure to buy drinks for sister, her friend, and the shot girls also are there pressuring too. I buy a couple more rounds but this is getting annoying. To her credit Pim is obedient when I tell her I want to leave and we leave after one more song. I am glad to get out of there and Pim is still in a good mood.

It's still pretty early (11.20) when we go to the condo. We make love again and this time Pim is really into it. At one point I am doing her doggy standing up in front of the mirror and desk. Wild stuff. After we both cum we lay in each other's arms. Pim says she wants to see me again tomorrow. I tell her tomorrow is my last night off diving and that I want to go hangout out with my dive buddies. In actuality I'd like a change of pace and to find another girl or girls. I don't want to lie to Pim and tell her I will take her then stand her up. But she is getting emotional. Don't I want to be with her? Am I just like every other guy a butterfly? She starts saying some crazy stuff: that she won't even say Hello, to me if she sees me on WS and that that's OK and that she will die alone.

I am also getting annoyed as its already getting late and I have to get up early in the morning. I tell he this is ridiculous and ask her to leave. She gets dressed and I giver het the customary 2 K. I hug her goodbye and she starts sobbing in my arms. I feel very sorry for her and hold her close to me telling her that it's OK and that she can stay. Her eyes are full of tears and she is still very emotional. I push her into the bed and we make very tender love before falling asleep and in each other's arms. This is getting a little intense.

We get up early and Pim is a sport getting ready to leave so early. On a whim I tell her that I want to meet her again tonight and this makes her very happy. She gives me a ride to the dive center which saves me a ton of time. She is so cute driving her little motor bike!

The last day of diving is great, but takes forever as there is paperwork to complete before you get the certificate. I get home by 6, nap, and Pim comes over at her usual 8 PM. One good thing about her is that she is very punctual! She's' also brought food and drinks with her, which is great since I haven't eaten. I give her money for it but I am sure she would not have asked if I hadn't done so.

We have a great night just hanging out in bed watching TV and making love. Yingluck was stripped of her PM position and we watch the news with Pim explaining stuff to me and also teaching me Thai. This is indeed getting to be a real GFE.

We wake up much later in the morning as I am done with diving for the trip. Pim is cheerful and we make love one last time. I finish on my back with her sitting up and leaning over me, wanking off as her boobs bounce on my chest. This image will stay in my mind for a long, long time.

She has to go back north to visit her family (she believes this will bring her luck), so I am off the hook tonight. I like Pim but I don't want to get too involved with her. I am not crazy enough to try something serious with her. She is a nice enough girl but a bit unbalanced. I do, however want to see her again. Maybe I can take her for a nice trip to the beaches down south next time in Thailand. (one bad thing about Pattay is that it is a real shit hole nature wise).

She is really unique as she combines those huge boobs with a nice relatively trim body.

I have stayed in touch with her since being back home and she has been cool thus far. She hasn't asked me for money or anything. Though I did agree to send her some bras, as it is difficult for her to find them in her size in Thailand. Actually this turned out to be kind of a fiasco as the bras I order form Victoria Secret for her turn out to be crap quality (fuck them! And she is a little pissed at me right now...

All in all a nice way to spend these days. But Uncle V is not the domestic type and he is rearing to get back into the action!

In the next episode Uncle V finds a real gem back at his old hunting ground...

Stay horny my friends...

Uncle V.

[QUOTE=ThreeHoles;1574553]Have I been the victim of some kind of Thai Voodoo Black Magic?
[/QUOTE]Jesus, man that is some scary shit! This is why I am a little scared of the chicks on BR. But RC is my fuckign stomping ground, so this is disconcerting.

Stay horny my friend. (And get your wound checked out!

Uncle V.

Thanks for another great report UV. I have enjoyed reading them.

Good to see you're keeping your head on straight and not getting sucked into something more with the girl, now matter how good a shag or how much of a sweetheart she is. There lies the road to ruin.

I think it is useful to have such a girl in your contacts, especially if you want to visit some of the more remote parts of Thailand that don't have many p4p options and you want to take girl with you.

Good work dude.

[QUOTE=ThreeHoles;1574553]Have I been the victim of some kind of Thai Voodoo Black Magic?

...

WTF happened to me?

Was I the victim of some mumbo jumbo shit?

Was I drugged in some way? I was very vague and dozy.

Has anybody else experienced anything like this?

Cheers 3 H.[/QUOTE]My first thought is you got lucky (haha) and hooked up with a nut case. My second thought is to ask if you did an inventory of your valuables. You may have been drugged and robbed, which is not an unheard of scenario in many mongering destinations all over the world. My third thought is that she now has a specimen of your blood, perhaps some of your hair; she's created a little doll that is a likeness of you; and now she can put you in a trance and control your behavior. Thai voodoo is some serious scary shit!

I'm just pull your leg. But there is a good lesson in your story. If in anyway a lady gives you any bad or even slightly weird vibes, get rid of her ASAP. Why tempt fate? Unless you know the lady or you're deal with an MP or an escort agency, always keep your wits when chasing pussy.

Hmm, notice this is my 1300th post. Is that a coincidence? Are you triskaidekaphobic?

[QUOTE=Sammyt;1574750]I think it is useful to have such a girl in your contacts, especially if you want to visit some of the more remote parts of Thailand that don't have many p4p options and you want to take girl with you.

Good work dude.[/QUOTE]Thanks I am glad you liked the report!

Those are my thoughts exactly. But it will be a bit tricky with this one as I think she is expecting a lot more from me. Will have t play the old push -pull, hot-cold game with her via I'm to perfection to pull it off.

Fucking VS! She was so happy to get the damned bras and they turned out to be complete shit. Maybe I should bite the bullet and spend another $100 on bras from more quality brand (and suggestions guys? Intimissemi maybe? It could turn out to be a worthwhile investment if I could pull of a sexy trip to a place like Koh Lippi with her this winter.

Walked Beach Road again this morning, 5:30 or so, about same condition as yesterday morning, 10 girls, three Lady Boys within several meters of Marriott entrance. I chose a tiny little, dark skinned lady who really wanted me to chose her, Noi said "I have no customer" Certainly a buyer's market at this time. And huge black clouds, thunder and lightning in the sky, we both wanted to get back to the hotel to avoid the coming storm. Agreed to THB 500 for short time, I only have two hours before leaving Amazing Thailand. For a small lady she was a real trooper, started with BBBJ and she was really good at it, then Cowgirl which many small girls will not try with me, then I rolled her around the bed trying all my favorites. I worked her hard, some animal instinct makes me pound the little ones with extra enthusiasm.

THB 500 for one hour, one shot with a spinner. I'm happy.

[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1574753]My first thought is you got lucky (haha) and hooked up with a nut case. My second thought is to ask if you did an inventory of your valuables. You may have been drugged and robbed, which is not an unheard of scenario in many mongering destinations all over the world. My third thought is that she now has a specimen of your blood, perhaps some of your hair; she's created a little doll that is a likeness of you; and now she can put you in a trance and control your behavior. Thai voodoo is some serious scary shit!

I'm just pull your leg. But there is a good lesson in your story. If in anyway a lady gives you any bad or even slightly weird vibes, get rid of her ASAP. Why tempt fate? Unless you know the lady or you're deal with an MP or an escort agency, always keep your wits when chasing pussy.

Hmm, notice this is my 1300th post. Is that a coincidence? Are you triskaidekaphobic?[/QUOTE]Got lucky? Haha don't think so, if I wasn't smashed I probably would have been scared as hell.

I don't think she actually wanted to hurt me or harm me, she really worked hard to make me happy sex wise and just generally. I think she just genuinely believed that my blood would be lucky for her. I had another one from Insomnia last night and I asked her about it. Despite limited English I did get the impression that she knew about it. Before I finished telling her she mentioned "on the neck?

But you're right, any doubt I'll GTF out in future.

And no I'm not triwhateveritis.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1574738]
All in all a nice way to spend these days. But Uncle V is not the domestic type and he is rearing to get back into the action!

In the next episode Uncle V finds a real gem back at his old hunting ground.

[/QUOTE]Uncle V, you appear to be on a really long trip of Pattaya. My thoughts on this report were that you like Pim as much as she likes you and things are getting complicated between the both of you. Hope her travelling to the North cools things down between the both of you and leaves you to hunt new game.

Keep reporting.

[QUOTE=BushWhack;1574793]Walked Beach Road again this morning, 5:30 or so, about same condition as yesterday morning, 10 girls, three Lady Boys within several meters of Marriott entrance. I chose a tiny little, dark skinned lady who really wanted me to chose her, Noi said "I have no customer" Certainly a buyer's market at this time. And huge black clouds, thunder and lightning in the sky, we both wanted to get back to the hotel to avoid the coming storm. Agreed to THB 500 for short time, I only have two hours before leaving Amazing Thailand. For a small lady she was a real trooper, started with BBBJ and she was really good at it, then Cowgirl which many small girls will not try with me, then I rolled her around the bed trying all my favorites. I worked her hard, some animal instinct makes me pound the little ones with extra enthusiasm.

THB 500 for one hour, one shot with a spinner. I'm happy. [/QUOTE]THB 500 is almost nothing (almost a bang for free). You are getting great deals on Beach Road (or you must be a great negotiator).

I wonder if this Noi is the same as Uncle V's Noi.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1574859]Uncle V, you appear to be on a really long trip of Pattaya. My thoughts on this report were that you like Pim as much as she likes you and things are getting complicated between the both of you. Hope her travelling to the North cools things down between the both of you and leaves you to hunt new game.

Keep reporting. [/QUOTE]Thanks man. No I am not in Pats. I was there earlier last month. Trip was about 11 days. I'm not posting in real time. Just writing and posting when I get a chance.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1574860]THB 500 is almost nothing (almost a bang for free). You are getting great deals on Beach Road (or you must be a great negotiator). [/QUOTE]

500 baht is still very much the going rate on Beach Road for the lower-tier girls, or for almost all of them at the ungodly hour of 5 am. Totally buyer's market. The prettier ones may ask whatever they think will fly, but will almost always settle for 700, unless it's prime time (8 pm) on a busy evening, and they're sure to get another punter paying more within 30 min.

On my last visit, I had 1x500, 1x600, 1x700... and none of those were with the skanks.

It is indeed a great deal, given how 10 years ago the going rate was also 500 (and prices of all other goods were much lower)... but back then, the quality on Beach Road was way, way, better, and there were many more girls available at all hours, not only an the peak time of 19:30-23:30pm like now.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1574860]THB 500 is almost nothing (almost a bang for free). You are getting great deals on Beach Road (or you must be a great negotiator).

I wonder if this Noi is the same as Uncle V's Noi. [/QUOTE]And how about taking a beauty home for GFE well into the next day for 1. 5 to 2 K?

This is les than you will pay for a good dinner in most places.

Simply amazing!

I am planning a Germany FKK trip soon. I expect to spend at least 300 Euros (almost eight times the Pattaya LT rate) per night, and I will still be going to bed alone every night.

My new catalog featuring Central Pattaya; Soi Buakhao & Soi LK Metro Go-Go Bars is completed and available now in PDF format to any member who would like a copy. Just PM me with your email address and I'll send it right out to you. It's a good way to plan your entertainment while visiting Pattaya.

There are 35 more clubs listed (in addition to the Walking Street catalog) along with brief descriptions and references to web sites containing reviews and other information – more girls than you could fuck in a lifetime. I'm sure there are a few more clubs in the Pattaya-Jomtien-Naklua-Dark-side vicinities I've not included but IMHO are just not worth mentioning.

Regards, Daddy.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1574946]And how about taking a beauty home for GFE well into the next day for 1. 5 to 2 K?

This is les than you will pay for a good dinner in most places.

Simply amazing!

I am planning a Germany FKK trip soon. I expect to spend at least 300 Euros (almost eight times the Pattaya LT rate) per night, and I will still be going to bed alone every night. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1574934]500 baht is still very much the going rate on Beach Road for the lower-tier girls, or for almost all of them at the ungodly hour of 5 am. Totally buyer's market. The prettier ones may ask whatever they think will fly, but will almost always settle for 700, unless it's prime time (8 pm) on a busy evening, and they're sure to get another punter paying more within 30 min.

On my last visit, I had 1x500, 1x600, 1x700. and none of those were with the skanks.

It is indeed a great deal, given how 10 years ago the going rate was also 500 (and prices of all other goods were much lower). but back then, the quality on Beach Road was way, way, better, and there were many more girls available at all hours, not only an the peak time of 19:30-23:30pm like now. [/QUOTE]This makes it sounds so very attractive. Pricing in Pattaya appears to be much more reasonable than BKK. I just hope beach road has decent girls when I visit next (don't want to be bummed out).

However, I understand that the rates for the Go-Go girls remains at the same levels as BKK.

[QUOTE=Ekspat;1574660]All those having no clue about the actresses in Pattaya. [/QUOTE]Can't really blame them. No hope of a job (esp after 30), no education, kids and family pressure to send money home. Some are actually trying to find love, but even Thais have to pay a deposit to the family on the girl of their choice. Dowry system dictates payment. Just the way it is there. I was just paid back hundreds of thousands of baht after I helped one lady for a couple years get on her feet after she was dumped in the street by her farang husband. No need to bad mouth all of them.

Thanks to Daddy O's fine work I was able to find Crystal Gogo's facebook page, where I found pics of my waitress lady from Day 4 of my trip.

Unfortunately these don't provide a view of her amazing legs.

Does anyone know this girl? Anyone taken her before? In the pics she always appears as a waitress, but I'm pretty sure I could have taken her.

We really seemed to hit it off (she was stroking my cock) and I'd like to give her a try next time I'm in town.

in april i posted a 21 day diary on this forum but subsequently all of the text on certain days disappeared. jackson has since explained that was due to isg migrating to a new server and invited people to re-post if they wish. my apologies if this lengthy post is a nuisance if you read it first time round but i hope it will provide useful information to others.

day 13, saturday: pattaya.

i wanted to fuck two girls today. my plan was to meet up with macca again later to visit the beer-bars, but beforehand i wanted some daytime action.

i decided to go to dream teen, where i had a great experience last year. i met a spectacular girl called new who gave me some of the best sex of the trip. heading down soi buakhao from lk metro, i passed the purple sawasdee siam hotel and turned right at the next junction. dream teen is a short distance up this road on the left. it looks like a regular massage shop from the outside. it was 5. 30 pm when i entered and a receptionist pushed a price-list towards me. i opted for an oil massage in a basic room for 400 baht. you can pay extra for a double bed and a bath and i must say i was intrigued by the 'sweet room' (a spelling mistake i assume). all i wanted was a bed, a girl and air-con.

it's possible to choose your girl via a folder on the reception desk but i find this an unreliable way to select girls as often the photos are out-of-date or photoshopped. i asked to see a line-up and the receptionist indicated for me to sit down on a couch as she assembled the available girls. only six girls lined up and the standard was surprisingly low, a similar quality to the type of girls you'the see plying their trade on beach road. on top of that they looked bored and only one girl smiled when i looked at her. by default i picked her. if you come to dream teen hoping to find girls in their late teens, you'll be disappointed. the girls looked to be between 25 and 30.

it was a shame not to see new again. she was a 10/10 girl who gave me a 10/10 service. normally i want to try to fuck as many girls as possible when i'm in thailand but i would have happily made an exception for her. although my choice wasn't a stunner, i was reasonably pleased. she was a girl-next-door type, with a round face, a slender body and the kind of big lips perfect for blow-jobs. her name was mint and she was 24. she led me upstairs to a tiny room which contained little more than a single bed and a partitioned shower area. there was no window so the room felt a bit like a prison cell. perhaps paying extra for a superior room is money well spent. before mint closed the door i saw a pretty girl, possibly an 8/10, leaving a room with a customer. it proves that this place does have some good lookers.

we showered before mint gave me a nice oil massage on the bed. she remained dressed but i was naked. what i like about places like this is that the massages aren't token efforts, the girls know what they are doing. she worked her magic on my shoulders, my back and my legs and when she massaged my thighs i felt myself getting hard. "turn over" she said. she continued massaging my thighs and my cock was straining at the leash.

she removed the towel, applied oil on her hands and gave me a great hand-job. normally i don't see the point of paying a girl to do something you can do yourself (usually far better) but it felt great and better than any blow-job i've had recently. "you want extras? " she asked. i contemplated sticking with the hand-job but i judge the success of each trip on how many girls i fuck, so i opted for the 'full service' . the price was 1500 baht for a body-massage, blow-job and sex.

she peeled off her dress revealing a slim figure and small tits. she squeezed oil from a bottle over my chest and then leaned over me and used her tits to rub me. it was extremely pleasurable but sadly it only lasted a minute before she rolled a condom on to my dick and gave me a blow-job. like the body-to-body massage this also only lasted a minute.

mint manoeuvred herself astride me and lowered herself on. she rode me slowly, rocking her hips back and forth on mine and then smiled. "you big" she said. by western standards i'm fairly average but it's always good for the ego! her body glistened with oil and her nipples were erect. i leaned up and sucked them but disappointingly when we kissed, she did so with her mouth closed. we went through my usual tick-list of positions culminating in her riding me 'reverse cowgirl' giving me a great view of her ass as i shot my load.

we showered again and got changed. i paid her 1500 baht and then fished around my wallet for a tip. a couple of hundred baht was probably fair but i didn't have less than 500. i handed it to her intending to ask for change but she almost exploded with joy at my generosity, so i decided to let her keep it all. she gave me a bone-crunching hug and planted three kisses on my lips. i wished she had shown the same enthusiasm to kiss when i was fucking her!

dream teen enjoys a good reputation but i probably would not go again. 1900 baht is almost the cost of a soapy massage and for that i fucked a fairly average girl in the most basic of rooms. for just 300 baht extra i could fuck a hottie in a luxury room in honey 2 with a soapy massage thrown in for good measure. in fairness to dream teen though, the girls are renowned for their sexual prowess and mint didn't let me down in that regard. not forgetting the fact that new was one of my 'girls of the trip' last year and gave me some of the best sex i've ever had.

i walked back to my hotel via soi lk metro. ten girls were sat outside devils den but i didn't see either of the girls i fucked last year. it's a place famed for threesomes so perhaps later in the trip i'd treat myself. 3600 baht for 90 minutes with two girls is good value. it was 6. 30 pm and getting dark. the beer-bars along soi diana were coming alive and girls outnumbered customers heavily. i got back to lek hotel and ate at the dinner buffet. it cost 250 baht and i plundered the various meat, fish and rice dishes. drinks cost extra.

my plan tonight was to meet macca and visit some beer bars. originally we planned to meet at 9 pm but macca texted me to say he was running late because he went to watch pattaya united play. they lost 3-0 and macca decided to walk back from the ground. it was a long way. as a result i had a couple of hours to kill so i found an internet caf.

it was 9. 40 pm by the time i arrived at lisa bar. it's a large and lively beer-bar located on 2nd road that has gogo quality girls. i was ten minutes late but macca wasn't there so i sat down at a street-side table and ordered myself a beer. two attractive girls were dancing on the bar and there were 20 sat around including some exceptional talent. my favourite was a lovely tall girl with long curly hair and a fresh-faced innocence that suggested she was new to the business. we exchanged smiles which she took as an invitation to walk over. before she sat down, macca arrived. we said hello, and i asked him about his day but when i turned around the pretty girl had walked back to the bar. macca ordered himself a beer and we told each other about our respective afternoons. two girls came over and the girl who took a shine to macca had the kind of body i like. she was a small girl but had disproportionately large boobs. my girl was fairly average but spoke good english. "you been here before? " she asked so i told her about lin, the 10/10 i bar-fined last year. my heart skipped a beat when she pointed to the toilets and said "i see her earlier" . i had thought about lin a lot between trips and i would certainly bar-fine her again given the chance, but lin didn't come out of the toilets and i didn't spot her at all for the half an hour i was at lisa bar. the girl next to me had got her confused with someone else.

i noticed the pretty young girl with curly hair kept looking over to me and smiling. the girl next to me noticed and said "you like girl? " i nodded and she called the cutie over before saying "lady-drink for me? " i like lisa bar but there is too much pressure to buy drinks at times. the curly-haired girl was tall and skinny and had braces on her teeth which added to her innocent charm. she had a lovely face but her skin would certainly have benefited from a bottle of clearasil. her english was limited and after the usual introductory questions she asked "you buy me drink? " if i was on my own i would have obliged but macca was keen to move on. i told her "we go soon, maybe next time" which she perceived as a lack of interest and walked off. two minutes later she was dancing on the bar and i was hypnotised by her perfect body. she was certainly an option for later.

there were several other good lookers. on the next table was a sexy girl wearing a white playboy t-shirt, with the face of a hardcore pro and a curvy figure. she was the type who would certainly provide a wild time. as macca and i left we saw two honeys sat on the end table. one was a 9/10 and flirtatiously said "come back later" as we walked past. lisa bar is definitely one of my favourite bars in pattaya. they have some gorgeous girls that would grace any gogo bar and the prices are relatively cheap. the bar-fine is 500 baht and last year i paid just 1500 for short-time with lin, a girl i rated 10/10.

opposite is drinking street, a large beer-bar complex containing 20 open-sided bars. it was 10 pm and the place was busy. girls screamed theatrically when we walked past and macca and i chose to stop at a bar halfway down on the right. there were 10 girls and just two other customers. i like the relaxed atmosphere of beer bars and none of the girls asked for a drink. one had a lovely face but seemed very shy. macca and i agreed that if we saw her in a bar in england, we'd be drooling.

a young cutie with blond highlights was sat with an old guy but the prettiest girl was working at a bar opposite. she had classic thai beauty with a lovely face and long, jet-black straight hair. just as i was about to suggest to macca that we should go to her bar next, a man sat down in front of her and five minutes later they were playing jenga. she would be busy for a while i conceded. another bar seemed to specialise in larger ladies. there were two girls dancing, who weren't curvy, chubby or chunky even, they were genuinely fat. one was perhaps the biggest thai girl i've ever seen with thighs like tree-trunks and the physique of a sumo wrestler. fair play to her, she was dancing on the bar with tremendous effort. perhaps she was trying to lose weight.

macca spotted a girl sitting at the bar next door who he had unsuccessfully tried to bar-fine three times in previous trips. "she's a tease" he told me. we went to her bar and he was right, she chatted with macca for two minutes, then went to chat with another customer. she had the attention span of a young child. macca told me there was just something about her that he couldn't resist. she was a pretty girl and it's funny how the thrill of the chase sometimes heightens expectations. eventually she came back so macca decided to try his luck again. this time, much to his surprise, she said yes. perhaps his fitness regime and resultant ripped physique had paid dividends? or perhaps it was just fourth time lucky? the bar-fine was 300 baht and surprisingly she quoted just 1000 baht for short-time. for the quality of girl that was fantastic value. this time it was macca's turn to tease. he didn't want to bar-fine too early so he told her "i bar-fine you another night" . i detected the merest hint of a frown on her face and the merest hint of smugness on his.

the rest of the girls at the bar were a mixture. an older woman wearing blue jeans was dancing who macca established was 42 years old. i joked to him that perhaps she was the mother of one of the other girls. a jovial swiss man sat next to me introduced himself as roland. he was sat opposite a pretty girl in a black and white dress, who he had bar-fined the night before. he pointed to another girl and told me that he had bar-fined her three times and then he pointed at a girl dancing on a table nearby and told me that she was another of his former conquests. although beer-bars aren't my first choice, i can see why guys like them. they can be rich hunting grounds with lots of girls available for cheap prices. they are very relaxed with no pressure to buy drinks and there are always gems to be found. and of course half the fun is looking.

where next? macca and i walked down to the far end of the complex where the bars were quieter and had fewer girls. "sometimes there can be some pretty girls hidden up here" macca said but not so tonight. we backtracked and chose a bar near the entrance on the strength of two young girls dancing on the bar. a pretty girl served us our beers, probably late teens and the prettiest girl i had seen in drinking street tonight. another girl sat down in front of me, who was pretty but on closer inspection a bit chubby for my liking. macca was engaged in conversation with one of the other girls so i bought her a drink and we played a game in which you have to press down the teeth of an alligator and hope its jaw doesn't snap shut. it was a game of chance but amusingly she lost every time.

macca and i finished our beers and decided to leave drinking street. we had been there a few hours and the talent levels had underwhelmed us. we decided to try soi 7. we walked to beach road and hailed a songthaew. 100 yards down the street three pretty thai girls hopped on and sat next to us. "should we stay on? " joked macca. the time was 12.40 am so they were probably on their way to one of the nightclubs on walking street.

soi 7 is a long street of beer-bars although i've never been impressed on previous visits. the girls are older here than elsewhere, catering for the ex-pat crowd. we walked down the middle of the street hoping to spot some cuties, but we didn't see any that tempted us. we stopped at one bar for a drink and immediately a 7/10 sat on macca's knee and another girl came to talk with me. my girl was below average but she started to massage my shoulders and it felt good. i told her "if good massage i buy you drink" and she massaged with renewed vigour. i had no intention of bar-fining her but why not be generous with these girls if they please you? the girl on macca's lap was the best looker at the bar but macca didn't appreciate her trying to put her hand down his shirt. she sensed his lack of interest and five minutes later was sat on the lap of a young guy nearby. he looked like a first-timer and bought her a lady-drink. her tricks of the trade didn't work on macca but the newbie was easy prey! on the opposite side of the bar a black man was tossing 20 baht notes in to the air and filming the ensuing melee on his phone as the girls scrambled for his money. he was having the time of his life.

the time was 1. 20 am and time to find my girl for the night. the only standout girls so far were the three hotties from lisa bar. i toyed with the idea of going back but sometimes nights like these can be like a game of blackjack. stick or twist? i decided to try one more bar and told macca "take me to a sure-fire bet" . he led me to a beer-bar complex situated next to the night bazaar. it was a long complex with maybe 20 open-sided bars that stretched down towards soi buakhao. i was immediately impressed by the quality of girls. macca liked the look of one wearing a blue dress at daokai, the first bar on the left. she had a pretty face and a cropped fringe but sadly her personality didn't match her looks. her arms remained folded and macca told me that whenever he asked her a question, she answered "i don't care" . not a good attitude! he suspected that maybe she'the returned from an earlier short-time and didn't feel very good about herself. we finished our drinks and decided to see if we could bag a hottie at one of the gogo bars.

we walked to soi buakao, past pook bar which specialises in ladyboys and on the opposite side of the street i saw a pretty girl with braces on her teeth at jony bar. she smiled as we walked past. we went to sugar sugar. there were six girls dancing, one of whom was a stunner so i informed a waitress i'd like to buy her a drink. i had to wait for 15 minutes before she came down, in which time macca stood up and declared that he was calling it a night. five minutes later the hottie joined me and downed her tequila. she was a 9/10 but sadly the signs weren't good. she seemed a nice girl but there wasn't a spark. most girls would be desperate for a bar-fine at this time of night but she played it cool. my suspicions were confirmed when i asked her how much and she told me "bar-fine 850 baht but i no bar-fine tonight" . i suspected that a pretty girl like her had been bar-fined earlier and was now happy to pick up lady-drinks. i paid my bill, kissed her on the cheek and left.

the time was 2. 45 am. i backtracked down soi buakhao hoping to see the young girl at jony bar but now it was closed. i walked back to the night bazaar beer-bars. it was much quieter than earlier and most bars just had a couple of girls. i didn't spot any contenders until i arrived at the last bar, daokai, which macca and i visited earlier in the night. the young cutie was still there, sat on her own. she gave me a smile and i hesitated. she was cold and distant earlier but now she was smiling and waving. i walked over and said hello, her name was sar and she asked "where your friend? " i told her that he had gone to bed and she asked "you bar-fine me? " i decided to go for it. the time was late and she was a pretty girl. i paid the bar-fine of 300 baht and we agreed on a price of 1500 baht for long-time. it seemed decent value for all night with a girl of her quality.

sadly it proved to be a terrible experience, one of my worst in asia.

we walked back to my hotel hand-in-hand but things began to deteriorate when we got to my room. i told sar to choose what to put on tv and she said "you not want boom-boom? " i can understand short-time girls being in a rush, but why was she? after showering we lay in bed and she acted shy. i tried to chat with her to help her relax but she acted coldly and bizarrely asked "why you keep looking at me? " what a terrible attitude.

i should have gone with my instincts and avoided her after the way she talked to macca earlier but i was lulled in by her smile. we lay in silence for a minute before i decided to try again. she seemed a bit more relaxed but when i leaned forward to kiss her she pulled her head away and said "i not sweet girl, i not kiss" . for the second time i rolled on to my back and stared at the ceiling. after a few minutes she said "we have boom boom, me tired" and unwrapped her towel revealing a nice pair of tits. but her moodiness had left me cold and my dick was as limp as a wet rag. i explained to sar that i need help to get hard to which she said "i not suck" with a disgusted look on her face. "touch? " i asked and she shook her head. she was frustrating me now.

i have a rule. i never fuck a girl who doesn't want to be there. i explained that to her and she said "okay i go" . she got out of bed and got changed. i felt frustrated but it was the right thing to do. i said i'd walk her back to the bar. "why? " she asked and i told her that i wanted a refund on the bar-fine. she opened her purse and tossed three 100 baht notes on to my bed. unbelievably she expected me to pay! i asked her why she was angry with me and she snapped "i pay back bar-fine, can i go now? " i opened the door and sar stomped out.

i hate seeing girls upset and i hate meeting girls who clearly don't want to be working in the sex industry. it's not fair on them and it's not fair on customers. mostly i couldn't understand sar's attitude. i went through the last hour in my head and couldn't think of anything i had done wrong. i had treated her well and when she made it abundantly clear that she didn't want to have sex, i let her go. i then remembered macca's theory earlier in the night that she had come back from a short-time and felt bad about herself. i then felt sorry for her. she must be in a desperate situation to have to force herself to work in a job she obviously hates so much.

the time was 3. 30 am and i didn't feel in the mood to go and find another girl. it neatly summed up my time in pattaya so far. it was about time this trip started delivering me some quality girls.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1574970]Thanks to Daddy O's fine work I was able to find Crystal Gogo's facebook page, where I found pics of my waitress lady from Day 4 of my trip.

Unfortunately these don't provide a view of her amazing legs.

Does anyone know this girl? Anyone taken her before? In the pics she always appears as a waitress, but I'm pretty sure I could have taken her.

We really seemed to hit it off (she was stroking my cock) and I'd like to give her a try next time I'm in town. [/QUOTE]

Better yet, has anyone ever taken the one standing beside her in the middle picture and man enough to tell us about it? LOL.

Crystal is one of my favorite clubs. Lots of hot women.
You are correct Uncle V, the waitresses are on the menu also.

After a lie-in and a leisurely breakfast I spent a couple of hours on the beach. It's probably the busiest beach in Thailand. I don't understand why regular tourists don't go to Phuket or Krabi instead as they are far more scenic corners of Thailand and the beaches are superior, much quieter and the water is cleaner too.

Mid-afternoon I went to an internet cafe to catch up on the news back home. At right angles to my cubicle there was a ladyboy talking to someone on Skype, probably a former customer on the other side of the world. After the conversation finished she was readying herself to leave when she spotted me. "Hello handsome" she said in the way only ladyboys can, before adding "you have girlfriend? " I smiled sheepishly which she saw as a green light to lift her T-shirt and flash her fake tits at me. I returned my attention back to BBC news.

Last night Macca told me about some massage places near Soi LK Metro that offer extras, so I decided to pay them a visit. The main concentration are at the Soi Buakhao ends of Soi 11 and Soi 25. They have suggestive names like 'Up To You Massage' hinting at the extras which can be negotiated. Most had half a dozen girls sitting outside, aged between 20 and 30. Amusingly they held boards which said 'foot massage, oil massage, Thai massage' but when single men walked past they flipped their signs around and they said 'hand-job, blow-job, sex'.

The majority of the girls were fairly average but there were a few gems. I spotted two pretty girls outside PARADISE, near the junction between Soi 11 and Soi Buakhao. One of them had a pretty face, a short fashionable haircut and was wearing a low-cut top that revealed an enticing pair of tits. She was the kind of girl who could easily work in a gogo bar.

She flashed me a big smile and said "you want massage? Just 200 baht" . How could I resist? Her name was Nico and she was 29 years old. She led me upstairs to a room which contained eight walled cubicles behind curtains. An old man walked past towards the communal bathroom, wearing just a towel wrapped around his hips. Nico led me to a cubicle and opened the curtain. There was a single bed and not much else. I could touch facing walls at the same time with my arms outstretched. Music was playing on a radio. I undressed and she instructed me to lie on my front. The massage was good and before long she was rubbing my thighs and accidentally brushing my private parts with her fingers. I love the building sense of anticipation in these kind of places. Oil massages are a great form of foreplay.

She asked me turn around and smiled when she saw I was hard. For some reason I always find this a bit embarrassing. "No need to be shy" she said, "I see lots before" . She stroked me and asked "extras? " It was probably the least necessary question I've ever been asked. She told me the prices. A hand-job would cost 500 baht, a blow-job 700 and sex was 1000. I opted for the full package.

Nico pulled off her top revealing a pair of natural tits so perfect they could be framed and displayed in the National Gallery. She rubbed them over my chest and torso and kissed me on the mouth using her tongue. The blow-job was phenomenal. She sucked me slowly and deeply and fixed me with a sexy stare as she dragged her fingernails down my chest. Paradise was living up to its name. I could have let her finish me off there and then.

Nico tried to lower herself on to me but she was extremely tight so she stood up, wrapped herself in a towel and rushed out of our cubicle. Thirty seconds later she came back with a sachet of lubricant. She tore it open, applied it and then slowly lowered herself on. This time I slid in easily. She slowly bounced up and down on me as I held her perfect tits. Ironically 'Groovy Kind of Love' was playing on the radio. I leaned up so we were both upright and she grinded her hips in to mine as we kissed and then I buried my face in to her tits. I flipped her on to her back which was a tricky manoeuvre in the confined space. Whatever the position, she really got in to it. She dug her fingernails in to me, pulled my hips in to hers and showered me with kisses. It felt exciting because people were in the other cubicles so we fucked as passionately and as quietly as we could. There was a seediness I loved.

Appropriately 'Take My Breath Away' was playing on the radio as she rode me in reverse cowgirl to a climax. I reached around her, grabbed her tits and pulled her to lie flat on me as we got our breaths back, me still inside her. She kissed me and said "good boom boom" like she was my driving test examiner.

After showering we got changed and I paid her. The massage cost 200 baht and the sex was 1000. She was a fantastic, passionate performer who provided me with the best sex of the trip so far, so I tipped her 300 baht. She happily agreed to pose for photos but suggested that I take them at the top of the stairs as there was more room than in the small cubicle. Some girls tense up in front of the camera but Nico was one of the most photogenic girls I've ever met. She looked dazzling in every single photo, like a model. As I walked back out on to the street, I said to the other girls sat outside "Nico sabai sabai" which made them laugh. I kissed Nico on each cheek like an old romantic and waved her goodbye.

What a girl. She was a stunner and provided 10/10 sex, yet I'the only paid 1200 for her, plus tip. Another top recommendation from Macca.

I ate at Subway and after a shower and change of clothes, headed out to meet Macca at 9 pm. The plan tonight was to go on another gogo crawl, this time around Soi LK Metro.

We decided to start at THE OFFICE. Back home, arriving at the office on a Monday is rather depressing but not so tonight. I bought a beer, sat down and admired the scantily clad girls dancing on stage. Shortly afterwards Macca arrived. He told me that he nearly decided to give it a miss tonight because he had spent the day hungover. Not surprising given the beers he was knocking back while watching the rugby last night.

Last year I was hugely impressed by the quality of girls at The Office but tonight the standard was down. Only six were dancing and I didn't see any to set my pulse racing. That's not to say that the girls were ugly of course. 177 was attractive with a nice bum which she wiggled suggestively as she danced and number 14 was a sexy blond. The prettiest girls were already sat with customers, including a tiny girl, probably four foot something, who was clinking glasses with a man well over six foot. They were little and large. The prettiest girl was a Hello Girl sat on a stool outside. Often gogo bars deploy their star assets outside early in the night to lure customers inside.

CRYSTAL CLUB next door had an almost identical layout and there were also six girls dancing. Sat next to me was a customer with two very pretty girls either side of him. One had fair hair that was tied up with a headband and the other had an extremely pretty face with big luscious lips. She smiled at me and I made a note of her number, 360. Macca and I were impressed by the talent elsewhere in the club too. Dancing in front of us was a lovely looking girl with a hispanic looking face while 293 had a temptingly curvaceous figure. Some of the girls danced topless while others were completely naked.

We paid our bills and as I was waiting for my change I spotted a 10/10 sat next to the door. She was an incredibly fresh-faced cutie wearing a yellow bikini and she smiled when she saw me looking over. Wow. I would have bought her a drink if I had spotted her earlier. As I headed for the exit I said Hello, to her and made a point of closely examining her badge. She was number 304. "You come back okay? " She said.

"You should see some of the girls at this place" Macca said excitedly as we went to BACHELOR next door. It had a flashing neon sign above the entrance but some of the bulbs weren't working, so for a second I thought Macca was taking me to a bar called Back Door. Perhaps the girls might specialise in anal sex I thought? Or was it a ladyboy bar? Then the bulbs flickered and I realised my mistake.

It was dark inside but I really liked the angular layout, the mirrors on the walls and the flashing lights. Clearly the owners have spent a lot of money on this place. 10 girls were dancing and Macca pointed out a pretty girl he had bar-fined earlier in the trip. He told me he'd paid 1000 for the bar-fine and 2000 for short-time in a room upstairs. I'd never heard of fucking a gogo girl on the premises before but he told me that lots of bars in Soi LK Metro have short-time rooms. They cost 300 baht for an hour. There were two girls sat nearby and Macca immediately took a shine to one of them. She had a distinctive face which suggested that she was mixed race. Macca thought she looked Western but I thought perhaps she had Indian blood. She was a sweet girl so Macca bought her a drink. Her name was Pim and when Macca enquired about her heritage she told him that her father was Indian. 1-0 Lancelot!

A birthday girl walked around the bar, wearing a necklace that customers were invited to pin a tip on to. Macca joked that gogo girls have four birthdays a year. I don't begrudge these girls a nice little pay-day so I told her I'd give her a tip on the condition that she gave me a birthday kiss. I turned my face, inviting her to kiss me on the cheek but as she leaned in to kiss me I turned my face and got a kiss on the lips. She laughed. I jokingly told her "my birthday today too" and she lifted her money necklace off and placed it over my head. I stood up and pretended to run out of the bar. I enjoy the banter you can have with gogo girls.

Macca told me "I'm going to have to bar-fine this girl mate, she's fantastic" . We have similar taste in girls and I could understand why he was so keen. She was pretty and she seemed to have a great attitude. She quoted him 2000 for short-time which was excellent value. He told me that he would send me a text message later and if I was still out we could meet up.

The time was 10.30 pm and I considered going back to Crystal Club to try to bar-fine the 10/10 but I was enjoying my gogo crawl too much. I don't like to barfine too early, I want to visit as many bars as possible. Sometimes it means missing out on girls but they'll always be there next night.

I went to AMETHYST next, one of the largest clubs on Soi LK Metro. It had a large stage overlooked by balconies and faux Greek style columns. The stage was empty but suddenly rock'and'roll music started playing and girls made dramatic entrances from above, sliding down the chrome poles like the SAS. All 10 girls were topless but the quality wasn't as high as I expected given the quality of Hello Girls outside. The prettiest was a 7/10 with a perfect body. Dancing next to her was a 5/10 who was quite chubby but was blessed with a large pair of natural tits that would ensure that she'd be bar-fined by the end of the night.

Two unusual things happened. Firstly I went to the toilet and as I was washing my hands a man started talking to me. He told me that he was a pilot from Qatar and when I went to leave he told me "you are going nowhere pal, I buy you drink! " He seemed over-friendly and I wondered what his game was. I shook his hand and lied that I needed to go and meet my friend. When I got back to my seat the mamasan pointed at a 6/10 on stage, who had asked if she could come and sit with me. I've never experienced that before. Normally customers point out girls they like, not the other way around! She was young and danced energetically but I was ready to leave.

Last year I bar-fined an extremely sweet girl from Paradise but it was now a building site. It was a shame I wouldn't be fucking two girls from Paradise in the same day, after Nico earlier. I stepped underneath the scaffolding and poked my head through the door and noticed that the stage was still there. Given LK Metro's growing popularity I suspect this will re-open in the not-too-distant future.

The time was 11 pm. I decided to go to SHOWGIRLS where I bar-fined a big-boobed girl last year. This club has a unique layout with the stage along one wall and all of the seats facing it, like an auditorium. There was a big water feature behind the stage, in front of which six girls were dancing. The standard was average although one pretty girl had an Afro-Caribbean look with lots of frizzy hair and rather unrealistic looking fake tits. The girls were sweet rather than stunners. The bar was crowded with customers, predominantly ex-pats which is usually an indication of good value. There was no pressure for lady-drinks, like most bars on Soi LK Metro.

It was time to bar-fine and the standout girl of the night was the 10/10 from CRYSTAL CLUB. I walked in but immediately saw her sitting with a customer with a lady-drink in front of her. Not to worry, several of the other girls who had caught my eye earlier were still available and dancing on stage. I saw the cutie with the head-band, the curvy girl in the green bikini and the girl with the hispanic face but the standout was 360. She had been sitting down earlier but now she was dancing I could admire her perfect body. She had a beautiful face too so I asked a waitress to offer her a drink. The waitress passed on my message and when the girl looked over I waved my arms like I was stranded on a desert island and trying to attract the attention of a passing boat. She laughed. Her name was Aom, she was 22 years old and like the large majority of working girls in Pattaya, she was born in Isaan.

A waitress bought her drink over, a double whiskey. She showed me the chit before asking "okay? " It was for 265 baht! I think it's sneaky when bars do this as they know that sending the drink back would create a bad first impression with the girl. By this point I knew that I wanted to bar-fine her so I agreed.

My phone buzzed in my pocket and it was a text message from Macca. "I'm back out pal if you are out" it said. I told him where I was and five minutes later he walked in grinning like a Cheshire cat. He sat down and told me "I don't care if I never take a girl again, nothing can be as good as what I've just experienced" . He told me how fantastic Pim had been and described her as the 'number one girl' he has ever bar-fined. I should point out that Macca is not a giddy first-timer, he's a Pattaya veteran. He was buzzing!

A ginger haired girl wearing plastic green glasses approached Macca and I and planted big kisses on our cheeks. We laughed when we looked at each other and saw big comedy lipstick marks. I asked her to put some lipstick on my lips and she duly obliged. Macca did the same and we looked like a bad pair of transvestites! I joked to Macca "how much for short-time? " Aom found it funny so I tried to kiss her on the cheek but she leaned away screaming. It was a lot of fun.

The bar-fine was steep at 1500 baht but Aom told me that it is reduced to 1000 baht after midnight. The time was 11.45 pm so I told her "I bar-fine you in 15 minutes" . We agreed on a price of 2000 baht for short-time plus "tip if you make me smile" . I added with a serious face "I not smile often" .

She had to go up and dance and she was a really sexy mover and kept glancing over towards me which is always a good sign. There was a man in a wheelchair next to the stage and I watched with surprise when he offered her a lady-drink and she accepted. I never begrudge a girl her right to make as much money as possible and in fairness to her she looked over to me and indicated she'd be 10 minutes. I noticed that she didn't ask for a double whiskey off him!

The 10/10 girl was now sitting with another customer, an old man with a moustache. She was facing me as she talked to him and she obviously remembered me from earlier because she kept smiling to me. By now I'the already agreed to bar-fine Aom but wow, this girl was special. I reckon she's probably in the top three gogo girls I've ever seen. However she was sat with her third customer in a short space of time and I found it hard to believe that they wouldn't be interested in bar-fining such a pretty girl. I wondered whether perhaps she was one of those girls who is very selective about accepting bar-fines and makes most of her money from lady-drinks.

After midnight I paid Aom's bar-fine and she went to get changed. Macca shook my hand, congratulated me on my choice of girl and told me he was going to bed. We arranged to meet tomorrow night on Walking Street. Five minutes later Aom returned looked lovely in an elegant white dress and we walked back to my hotel. In my room we had a nice chat on the bed which culminated in us kissing. Sadly she kissed with her mouth closed. "I'm shy" she told me apologetically. It's funny how often Thai girls say that having spent all night dancing near-naked in a bar full of strangers!

We showered separately and then she lay next to me on the bed, wrapped in a towel. She decided to teach me some Thai and pointed at my eyes, my nose and my mouth, before telling me the Thai words. Then she pointed to my dick and said "anaconda" . Haha. I like girls with a sense of humour. She was a snake-charmer because she began stroking it and it stood to attention. I slipped off her towel.

Her pussy was extremely tight. She lowered herself on to me and slowly rode me as I squeezed her small tits. She had a great 'sex face' her eyes were rolled back, her mouth was open and her long hair fell across her face. I flipped her on to her back and grinded in to her slowly which she seemed to like given the way she held my hips and pulled me in to her. I leaned upright and fucked her harder and marveled at how pretty she was and how lucky I was to be fucking her. I don't get to fuck girls this pretty back in England. We tried lots of positions and finished with me fucking her doggystyle before easing her to lie flat on her front, her legs together, as I slapped in to her until I came.

We chatted for half an hour afterwards and she was a really level-headed, bright girl. She told me that she left Isaan and moved to Bangkok where she lived with her boyfriend for five years. She worked in MBK shopping mall which explained her excellent English but when she split up with her boyfriend, she moved to Pattaya. She told me that at first she slept with customers every night but it made her too tired, so now she's doesn't go with many customers. In 10 nights she had accepted just two bar-fines, including mine. I felt extremely flattered. Furthermore she told me that tonight I was the fourth person who had asked to bar-fine her. It illustrates that some of the top girls in these bars make enough money through lady-drinks they don't need to spread their legs.

Her phone rang and after a brief conversation she hung up. It was her friend from Crystal Club asking her to come back because a customer had requested her. Aom had refused because she was tired. She told me that he was a regular customer who only buys lady-drinks for girls and never bar-fines them (I wondered whether it was the guy in the wheelchair). He once tipped her 3000 baht just for sitting with him for a few hours! With guys like that it's no wonder that girls are selective about sleeping with customers.

She got changed and I took her phone number. I paid her 2000 baht and then told her "I said I give you tip if you make me smile" . She nodded. "But I no smile" I said seriously. She laughed and tickled a tip out of me. She was such a great girl I gave her 500 baht, to which she placed her hands together and gave me a 'wai' . What a great girl and what a great day, undoubtedly the best day of my trip so far.

I'd fucked two stunners, Nico from Paradise and Aom from Crystal Club. I went to bed with a smile on myself and it wasn't the sight of seeing Macca wearing lipstick.

Please note: In April I posted a 21 day diary on this forum but subsequently all of the text on certain days disappeared. Jackson has since explained that was due to ISG migrating to a new server and invited people to re-post if they wish. My apologies if this lengthy post is a nuisance if you read it first time round but I hope it will provide useful information to others.

Yesterday was a great day and more of the same today would be very nice. I spent the afternoon on the beach before visiting SOI 6 for some early evening action.

It was starting to go dark. I wasn't in the mood for a bar-crawl, I wanted to find a girl quickly. The first bar on the right, Thai Rose, usually has a good selection but I didn't see any that appealed from the eight sat outside. Further on I saw a short man being sweet-talked by a masculine ladyboy with pneumatic fake tits. The man looked tempted but nervous. Would he or wouldn't he I thought as I walked past. I turned around and the ladyboy was leading him to her bar. I've never been with a ladyboy but if I did I would at least go with one that looks like a lady, not a boy!

I saw a potential fucklet at Red Point but it was hard to see how pretty she was because her head was ducked down and she was on her phone. I didn't see Bell at Full Moon or Lily at Smoke & Kisses. I wasn't disappointed as I wanted a new girl. I reached the end of the street and felt underwhelmed.

Normally after my first recce I will have several contenders but the talent today was below-par. I backtracked to take a closer look at the girl at Red Point but she was no longer sat out front. I decided to try SOI 7 instead. I didn't have high hopes as the girls are older than those I usually go for. They are the types that were probably attractive 10 years earlier (maybe this is where gogo girls go when they retire? . The bars were sparsely populated with only a handful of girls at each and the occasional customer. The place felt sleepy. The best selection of girls was at Heaven's Door but I didn't go knock-knock-knocking and continued walking. Near the top were English style pubs and Australian sport-bars. It's easy to see why this street is popular with ex-pats. SOI 8 was just as quiet. There was a nice girl at a small bar near the top of the street, eating noodles out of a bowl. She was probably late twenties. I walked past Silver Star Agogo and wondered what the quality of girls would be like. On my cherry trip to Pattaya I went to a gogo bar on Soi 8 and the talent was severly lacking.

It was 7. 30 pm and I had arranged to meet Macca at 9 pm. Even if I found a girl now it would be a rush, especially since I hadn't eaten yet. I decided to abort mission and go to Walking Street early. There were freelancers dotted all the way down Beach Road. Most were older 'village bike' types (everyone's had a ride) but I counted four nice ones. I ate at McDonalds for convenience and then headed to Walking Street.

I was an hour early to meet Macca. Walking Street was as crowded as ever and I enjoyed walking through the river of people and admiring the pretty girls all around. There was a young contortionist, bent over double on a small table. She was only a young girl, probably early teens, but it made me wonder the fun you could have with a (legal-age) contortionist. The closest I've come was a spotlight dancer in Cebu who could do the splits.

I was lured in to PEPPERMINT by eight young Hello Girls holding happy hour placards. The sign boasted that it is 'Pattaya's biggest adult playground' but it was a cosy bar with two small stages and only 10 girls dancing. There were a few nice girls. 86 had the kind of body I like with lots of curves, 56 was tall with a nice face and 30 was a rock-chick with lots of tattoos. The rock-chick had a playful side and pretended to reel me in with an imaginary fishing rod. Every few minutes the girls moved around the stage, giving customers a good view of the talent on offer. I liked this bar as it had a relaxed vibe and there was no lady-drink pressure.

Last year I bar-fined a gorgeous girl called Annie from GLASSHOUSE but the night didn't go to plan. We got back to my hotel and she didn't have her card with her so security wouldn't let her up to my room. I tried to persuade the security guard but Annie started crying. She told me to return to Glasshouse next night and she'd have her card, but when I did she wasn't there. I hoped tonight, 12 months later, she would be.

Glasshouse has a prime location on Walking Street and there were six pretty Hello Girls outside. Annie wasn't amongst them. Although I knew I would enter, I decided to give the Hello Girls their moment. I hovered on the street and when they called 'welcome' I turned my head, pretended to look impressed and walked inside. I figured it's good for their morale. Seven girls were on stage and a similar number on the sidelines but there was no Annie. I figured that maybe she realised that pay-for-play wasn't for her and moved back to her province. A year is a long time in the life of a gogo girl. Number 24 was the cutest girl on stage but that might have been because she was wearing pink rabbit ears. Three girls in the corner were carefully putting flowers in to each other's hair while a girl wearing the coveted number 1 badge proved to be the number one dancer. Her bum-wiggling was hypnotic. Number 74 breezed past and gave me a big smile. This is one of Walking Streets smaller bars but it has some great girls.

I arrived at ALCATRAZ ten minutes early for my meeting with Macca and sat at the bar outside. It's a great people-watching spot. I liked watching the crowds of people walking past and the Hello Girls at work. They each wore sexy black outfits with studded belts and handcuffs and held 'happy hour' signs, which they held in front of their faces whenever anyone walked past taking photos. Macca arrived on time, still glowing from the night before. We had a beer and decided that we would like to try some new bars tonight.

We started at SHARK as its namesake is one of my favourite bars on Soi Cowboy in Bangkok. It's located on Soi Diamond, up a set of stairs. It was quiet inside with only a handful of customers. Perhaps the hordes were deterred by the stairs and relatively hidden location? The girls were fairly average although one cutie, number 37, flirted with us before the mamasan asked her to go and dance on the other side of the stage. Spoilsport. The cute girl blew us a kiss before she begrudgingly did as she was told.

In Bangkok I bar-fined a peach from MANDARIN so we decided to pay its Pattaya namesake a visit. There were nine girls dancing and the quality was average. It's never a good sign when the prettiest girl in a gogo bar is a customer. There were two Russian girls sat in the corner, one of whom was extremely pretty. I joked to Macca that I might offer her a lady-drink. A pretty girl in a blue dress scurried past, possibly returning from an earlier bar-fine, while 86 had a lovely face and was a sexy mover. She wore a white vest over her bikini so I wondered whether she was a coyote dancer. Two young cuties walked around with a tequila shot tray.

Macca chose SUGAR BABY next. It was 10.20 pm and the place was packed, so we couldn't get a seat facing the stage (which was a shame because I noticed some honeys). We were shown to seats next to a jacuzzi in which two young girls performed a shower routine. One of them was very pretty. This bar is popular with Japanese customers and she couldn't have looked more Japanese. She had pale skin, fair hair with bangs and a petite figure. She had small tits but her nipples were erect in the lukewarm water. She noticed me looking at her and when she stepped out of the jacuzzi and dried herself off, she sat next to me. She was like a little porcelain doll. Sadly she spoke little English and we didn't spark, so after five minutes she went to sit with a Japanese man opposite. Oddly she kept glancing over and smiling. Had she been as flirty when she was sat next to me I would have bought her a drink! The two new girls in the jacuzzi were average and I'm not a fan of these half-hearted lesbian routines. The girls look uncomfortable and I think it's quite demeaning to them.

We stepped out on to Walking Street and on the opposite side of the street I spotted a girl with huge natural tits dancing on a bar at the front of SIMON'S beer-bar complex. Her huge melons wobbled and bounced as she danced. If she wasn't careful she would get a black eye! Macca pointed at a girl at the same bar and told me that her name was Tuk-Tuk, one of his favourite girls in Thailand. He had bar-fined her a few times and had kept in touch ever since. I suggested we could go over for a drink but he hesitated and told me that she was the type of girl who could play with his heart. The golden rule for any sex tourist is never to allow yourself to fall for a bar-girl and I sensed that Macca was worried that could happen if he wasn't careful. "One quick drink" he said.

The bar was called BASILISK and Tuk-Tuk was small and pretty with a warm, smiley face. She was genuinely pleased to see Macca. Macca mischievously told her that I liked the girl with huge breasts and with Tuk-Tuk's help the girl came down and sat in front of me. Although I had admired her tits from afar, she was a plump girl with an average face and she was steaming drunk. I offered her a drink and had to repeat myself three times before she understood. She couldn't focus her eyes and slurred her words. When her drink arrived she knocked my bottle of beer over. Fortunately none of it spilled over me, instead it rebounded of Macca's glass and splashed down her top. I chivalrously took a paper towel and patted her huge breasts to dry them. What a gent.

I was impressed by the quality of girls at Basilisk. They were several rungs up from most other beer-bars I've been to in Pattaya (with the exception of Lisa Bar) and a few would grace any gogo bar in Pattaya. My favourite was a gorgeous girl in blue who was now dancing on the bar. She was probably late teens and was a 9/10. She had a slim body and was a sexy mover. Macca told me that he had arranged to meet Tuk-Tuk tomorrow afternoon so we decided to move on. Before I left I asked the big-boobed girl what her name was. She stared at me, eyes glazed over, swaying from side to side and smiling in her drunken stupor. Despite her drunkenness and decidedly average face, she was a 'definite maybe' for later in the night. I've fucked lots of cute girls on this trip but sometimes it's good to go for something from the opposite end of the spectrum. This girl wouldn't win any beauty contests but she would probably walk home with the 'Miss Wet T-shirt' trophy! For identification purposes I decided to call her Beer.

We walked down the centre of Simon's complex and girls screamed to get our attention as we walked past their bar. There were probably 20 bars and we chose to stop at JENNY'S as it had an enthusiastic collection of young girls. The sexiest was a girl in a tight black top and frayed denim shorts that showed off her perfect figure. Macca had fun with one of the girls, trying to learn how to count in Thai. An old man walked past holding hands with a tiny girl who looked suspiciously young to me. I noticed some pretty girls in Dream Bar, next to the toilets.

The time was approaching midnight so we decided to visit some sure-fire bets. In other words bars we would be guaranteed to see lots of honeys. First stop was HAPPY. It always lives up to its name and has a fun atmosphere. It was crowded with customers and we were shown to two stools next to the stage. There were some pretty girls and an old Japanese man was having fun throwing fistfuls of 20 baht notes in to the air and watching the madness that ensued as girls scrambled to pick them up. Macca and I talked about Philippines. He has never been so I told him about Manila Bay Cafe, Fields Avenue in Angeles, the cheaper prices, the fact long-time is much easier to find and how the girls are far more carnal. We decided that one day we would go.

Almost every bar we visited on Walking Street was packed with customers. SENSATIONS was no exception. There were 10 girls dancing on each stage and there was plenty of quality to admire. 996 had a pretty face and wore braces on her teeth and a cute girl wearing 94 sat on my lap with corn-rows in her hair. She told me it was her birthday so I offered her a lady-drink to celebrate on the condition she gave me a birthday kiss. I offered her my cheek but did my usual sneaky trick of turning around with split second timing to get a kiss on the lips. She laughed and ordered herself a tequila.

Her name was Maew. Would she be a sex-kitten and make me purr by the end of the night? The way that she grinded sexily on my lap and kissed me on the lips made me suspect the answer was yes. A sexy Russian girl with dark hair got up on stage and started dancing around one of the chrome poles. Despite the fact that she had a nice figure, she looked like a sumo wrestler next to the slender Thai's. The Thai girls welcomed their new colleague warmly and two of them sandwiched her and did a sexy lesbian grinding dance. It was fun to watch.

Macca and I agreed that Sensations is now our favourite bar on Walking Street (edging ahead of the likes of Airport, Happy and Beach Club). It has lots of girls and a high proportion of good lookers. On the down-side, Maew told me that the bar-fine was 1500 baht. My research had told me 1000 baht so maybe it is one of those places that has a sliding bar-fine that gets cheaper the later in the night?

Maew went up to dance and looked even prettier on stage. "She's a nice girl" said Macca approvingly. She had a great body and knew how to use it, wiggling her bum in my direction to give me a sample of 'coming attractions' should I wish to bar-fine her. I was tempted but then I remembered Nom, the cutie I had seen in Airport several days ago. She had stuck in my mind so I decided that I would go to Airport and try to bar-fine her but if she wasn't there I would come back and bar-fine Maew. When Maew finished dancing I told her that I was leaving. "Maybe see you later" I said as I got up to leave. But she ruined her chances by asking "you buy drink for me before you go? Girls who ask for too many drinks is a big turn-off.

It was 1 am when we entered AIRPORT which as ever was packed with customers. I couldn't see Nom anywhere in the bar but I soon got over the disappointment. There were five girls dancing on stage and the quality was excellent. My favourite was a cute girl who walked past with chipmunk cheeks. Her hair was tied up in a ponytail and her outfit was struggling to contain big natural tits. I smiled to her and she smiled back. She walked a bit further then looked back over her shoulder at me. I smiled again and she turned around and walked back. I offered her a drink and she sat down. Her name was Som and I was surprised to find out that she was 24 as she looked younger. She had an infectious, cheeky personality and held my hand as we danced to the music.

She was bundles of fun. Within five minutes of meeting her, I knew I wanted this girl. Macca decided that since it was his last night, he would go to Alcatraz to say goodbye to a few of his favourite waitresses, so I told him I'the see him there shortly.

Something unusual happened when I enquired about Som's prices. She told me that the bar-fine was 1000 baht but when I asked her how much for short-time she said "up to you" . I was surprised. I've heard of this happening in freelance establishments but never a gogo bar. Although it gave me the power to offer a lower figure, 1500 baht perhaps, I knew this girl was worth more. Chances are she knew it too. Every girl I had spoken to on Walking Street had quoted 2000 or 2500 for short-time and this girl was every bit as pretty. Perhaps I could have got her for less but she might have offered a restricted menu in return. I look for the 'girlfriend experience' and the odds of getting that with a girl you've just paid below market value for is small.

I decided to offer her what I thought was the fair price and said "2000 baht? She nodded, gave me a hug and went to get changed. As I waited three young girls came around selling tequila shots. Surely at 'Sexy Airline' they should be handing out free drinks from a drinks trolley? Som came back wearing a fake leather jacket and we walked hand-in-hand down Walking Street. She was tiny without her high-heels on.

I saw Macca in the bar outside Alcatraz and we said our goodbyes. I'm sure he had a tear in his eye. It had been a pleasure visiting the gogo and beer bars with him. Although I often travel alone, it's more fun with a wingman. I asked him what his plans were for the rest of the night and he told me that there was a new receptionist at his hotel who had agreed to come to his room when her shift had finished. He told me that he planned to save Tuk-Tuk until tomorrow to end his trip in style. We shook hands in a manly fashion and I had a feeling I would be seeing him on foreign shores again soon.

Som and I walked on to 2nd Road and jumped in to the back of a crowded songthaew. There was an older European couple sat opposite and I received a steely glare from the woman. Perhaps Som saw it because she squeezed my hand and rested her head on my shoulder. We jumped off the songthaew outside Lek Hotel, I paid the driver 20 baht and we went to the 7 Eleven next to my hotel to buy some drinks. I asked her what she wanted and she picked up a can of Heineken. As I was picking my drink I saw her reading a magazine so I bought that for her too.

I like it when you take a girl up to your room and there is no rush to get down to business. We chatted on the bed and read her magazine together. It was one of those trashy fashion and gossip magazines that women love with lots of photos of celebrities. I pointed at a good-looking Thai couple who were snapped leaving a party and said "me and you" . She laughed and said "marry tomorrow? " I gave her a hug and accepted her proposal. We showered and she found it funny when I walked back in to the bedroom wearing a shower cap on. Thai girls seem to like my silly sense of humour.

She assertively pushed me to lie flat on the bed, sat astride me and started kissing my neck and chest, making loud 'mwah mwah mwah' noises. She kissed lower and lower until she was giving me a really nice blow-job. She sucked, licked, nibbled and teased and before long I was aching to get in to her. I put a condom on and when I turned back to her she was lying on the bed, legs spread invitingly.

Her pussy was very tight and I enjoyed grinding in to her, finding angles that made her groan. She had the softest, wobbliest tits I have got my hands on since 'China Doll' from Atlantis in Angeles. I enjoyed fucking her hard and seeing them wobble like jellies, or spooning her from behind and holding them tightly. "Yeah, yeah, oh yeah" she said as she rode me to a climax, her pendulous tits slapping in to my face.

We showered and I did the shower-cap joke again. "You ladyboy! " she said. She was in no rush to leave and we chatted for a while. She played poker on her mobile phone and high-fived me whenever she won a hand. I told that she was 'suay mak mak' but she laughed and said "not suay mak mak, customers not like me" . I was amazed. She didn't have classical Thai beauty like other girls in Airport but she was very cute with a distinctive face and had fantastic curves. When I saw her in Airport I knew that she had to be mine. I told her "of all the thousands of girls on Walking Street tonight, I chose you" and she smiled. She had no answer to that.

Before she left I programmed her number in to my phone. I tried to dial it to confirm I had typed her number correctly but her phone didn't ring. Then I realised that I had accidentally dialled Som from Nataree, the cutie I fucked earlier in the trip. Oops. Som happily posed for lots of photos and pulled lots of silly faces. She was a bit loopy which I liked. I kissed her goodbye and once again went to bed with a smile on my face.

Please note: In April I posted a 21 day diary on this forum but subsequently all of the text on certain days disappeared. Jackson has since explained that was due to ISG migrating to a new server and invited people to re-post if they wish. My apologies if this lengthy post is a nuisance if you read it first time round but I hope it will provide useful information to others.

[QUOTE=TellAll;1575026]Better yet, has anyone ever taken the one standing beside her in the middle picture and man enough to tell us about it? LOL. [/QUOTE]Well played Mr TellAll, well played.

Sir L, your reports read better the second time around. Jolly good job mate.

All, could you recommend where the best rate of exchange can be found in Pattaya? (both for USD and INR) Thanks.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1575213]Sir L, your reports read better the second time around. Jolly good job mate.

All, could you recommend where the best rate of exchange can be found in Pattaya? (both for USD and INR) Thanks. [/QUOTE]Bro. Try TT exchange in soi Diana. Best offer.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1574934]500 baht is still very much the going rate on Beach Road for the lower-tier girls, or for almost all of them at the ungodly hour of 5 am. Totally buyer's market. The prettier ones may ask whatever they think will fly, but will almost always settle for 700, unless it's prime time (8 pm) on a busy evening, and they're sure to get another punter paying more within 30 min.

On my last visit, I had 1x500, 1x600, 1x700. and none of those were with the skanks.

It is indeed a great deal, given how 10 years ago the going rate was also 500 (and prices of all other goods were much lower). but back then, the quality on Beach Road was way, way, better, and there were many more girls available at all hours, not only an the peak time of 19:30-23:30pm like now. [/QUOTE]I would give someone who gives a poster in the Chiang Mai forum the phone number of a Chiang Mai police station as being that of a FL girl any credibility.

[QUOTE=ArthurTick;1575293]I "would" give someone who gives a poster in the Chiang Mai forum the phone number of a Chiang Mai police station as being that of a FL girl any credibility. [/QUOTE]You mean "would not," I assume, right?

Can you put names to the girls in the photos?

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1575213]All, could you recommend where the best rate of exchange can be found in Pattaya? (both for USD and INR) Thanks. [/QUOTE]I go to x-rates. Com and check the USD-THB cross, and can usually exchange at 10 baht less than their quoted rate. This held true as of last week at least.

In Pattaya the USD exchange rate for pristine $100 bills is normally posted on large visiable paper signs which makes price comparision quite easy. I look for the best rate and then go to an exchange shop to see if they can meet or beat it. If they can't I move on. I normally use shops in LK Metro and on Walking Street.

SunLover.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1575213]All, could you recommend where the best rate of exchange can be found in Pattaya? (both for USD and INR) Thanks. [/QUOTE]The best rate can be found at Click. It is an orange booth a few steps from Tukcom in the direction of Third Road.

Before that was built the best place was Bank Gold in Soi Rungland. It is the first street on the right past Tony's after crossing Third Road on Pattaya Tai. It is not an actual bank, that is just the name of it.

Also, T&T Currency Exchange (which will probably be closest to you seeing that there are several locations) gives a good rate.

[QUOTE=JpSlicky; 1575315]Can you put names to the girls in the photos?[/QUOTE]The girl that isn't blurred is the girl I thought was a 10/10 from Crystal Club. I alluded to her severa times in my post (the photo was grabbed from Crystal Club's excellent Facebook page). The other two girls I bar-fined in each of the reports. The girl from Airport was Som (with the fake leather jacket) and she was a really nice girl and lots of fun. She had a silly side which I liked. Aom is the girl I bar-fined from Crystal Club (she's the one with the long hair sitting on the bed). The girl in front of the pink wall was Nico, from a small massage shop in the Soi LK Metro area. All three girls were fantastic. They were attractive, smiley and had really good attitudes.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented; 1575213]Sir L, your reports read better the second time around. Jolly good job mate.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much. I will reply to your private message when I get chance.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1575441]The best rate can be found at Click. It is an orange booth a few steps from Tukcom in the direction of Third Road.

Before that was built the best place was Bank Gold in Soi Rungland. It is the first street on the right past Tony's after crossing Third Road on Pattaya Tai. It is not an actual bank, that is just the name of it.

Also, T&T Currency Exchange (which will probably be closest to you seeing that there are several locations) gives a good rate. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1575420]I go to x-rates. Com and check the USD-THB cross, and can usually exchange at 10 baht less than their quoted rate. This held true as of last week at least.

In Pattaya the USD exchange rate for pristine $100 bills is normally posted on large visiable paper signs which makes price comparision quite easy. I look for the best rate and then go to an exchange shop to see if they can meet or beat it. If they can't I move on. I normally use shops in LK Metro and on Walking Street.

SunLover. [/QUOTE]Thanks guys, really helpful.

"The bar-fine was steep at 1500 baht but Aom told me that it is reduced to 1000 baht after midnight. ".

Is this correct? The bar fine at Baccara is 700 baht, and I thought that was on the high end.

On another note; are there any issues in getting transportation (limo or taxi) from the airport to Pattaya, if it is after midnight? Assuming the current situation remains the same until the end of August, when I arrive.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1575537]

On another note; are there any issues in getting transportation (limo or taxi) from the airport to Pattaya, if it is after midnight? Assuming the current situation remains the same until the end of August, when I arrive. [/QUOTE]Wouldn't the better option be heading the shorter route to Bangkok for the night? Less travel time and you'll have a better shot at grabbing something before you hit the sack.

day 17, wednesday: pattaya.

i was woken mid-morning by my phone buzzing. it was a text message from som, the lovely girl i met at nataree in bangkok, wondering why i called her last night (i called her by accident when attempting to confirm som from airport's number). i felt bad because she probably thought i wanted to see her again. i told that her i missed her and she replied 'miss you too' before sending another message a few minutes later 'hope we meet again' . she was a lovely girl but i wouldn't be seeing her again. i only had three days left of my trip and would only be going back to bangkok to go to the airport.

during the afternoon i spent a few hours writing up my diary. after an hour there was a power-cut, which lasted just one second but it was enough to lose an hours worth of work. i wasn't in a great mood as i typed it all again.

after my memorable experience at paradise a couple of days ago, i decided to look for another 'massage with extras' place in the lk metro area. last night macca recommended soi 25, which is the street that runs alongside oasis agogo. i saw six consecutive massage shops near the top with young girls sat outside. several were okay but certainly none to compare with nico from paradise. a little further down i noticed a bar called [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and wondered whether it was a blow-job bar like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s in bangkok. amusingly meatloaf's 'i would do anything for love (but i won't do that)' was playing from inside. not the best theme tune for a sex venue!

on soi 11 nico was sitting on a stool outside paradise. she looked radiant and it was funny to think that i had fucked her a few days earlier. she seemed pleased to see me but told me "i am on period, hand-job okay? " i declined and told a small white lie that i wasn't looking for a girl. as we chatted i noticed that paradise and the place next door have a good collection of girls. there were a dozen lounging around and two or three of them i would be more than happy to take upstairs. but i didn't want nico to 'lose face' by taking another girl so i waved her goodbye and continued walking up soi 11. jasmine massage had some nice girls and i watched as three minibuses parked outside honey and 20 indian men poured out. i laughed to myself as i recalled last year when i heard an indian man in honey try to negotiate a group discount.

i decided to go to a soapy massage parlour instead. earlier in the week macca told me that he wanted to treat himself to a soapy on his final day before flying home and i planned to take him to honey 2 as it had been my favourite soapy massage parlour last year. but right now macca would be with tuk-tuk. i decided it shouldn't stop me from going though, so i flagged down a songthaew on 2nd road and five minutes later jumped off in front of honey 2. it's a big building on the corner where 2nd road meets soi 2. it is dwarfed by siam tower, one of pattaya's main landmarks.

the time was 6. 30 pm when i walked inside and took a seat in front of the fishbowl. there were 30 girls in two price brackets, 1800 and 2200 baht. the prices here are cheaper than any of the other soapies in pattaya and yet the quality of girls is excellent (in fact last year i thought honey 2 had the best collection of girls for the cheapest prices). one gripe is that the fishbowl is a really awkward l-shape which meant i couldn't see all of the girls from the couch i was sat on. those i saw were pretty, especially m71 who was wearing an elegant red dress and had a face that looked south american.

as i surveyed the talent, a girl i recognised walked in and sat down on the steps. it was nok (number 412), the lovely girl i had fucked here last year. she was a fantastic girl with plenty of curves and yet she was one of the 1800 baht girls, proving what great value this place is. she seemed to recognise me and smiled a huge smile.

i now had a dilemma. nok had been a star performer last year but i wanted to take a different girl. i like to fuck as many girls as possible when i'm on holiday but also i rarely fuck the same girl twice for another reason. on my first ever trip to thailand i spent three nights with a gorgeous girl from phuket and felt very heavy-hearted when it came time to say goodbye. it took me months to get over her. since then i promised that i would never allow myself to get too close to a thai girl again. nok was definitely one of those sweet girls it would be easy to fall for. my problem was, if i took another girl would she 'lose face'.

i informed the papasan that i would like to pick m71 but before i paid i walked to the front of the fishbowl and said hello, to nok. i told her that i remembered her but i couldn't take her again otherwise i would probably fall in love with her. it was a soppy line, a bit like something hugh grant would come out with in a romantic comedy, but it seemed to work and she laughed, as did the girls sat near her on the steps. "she sabai sabai" i said to the other girls and nok gave me another huge smile.

i walked to the counter to pay for m71. she cost 2200 baht and i wondered what the m stood for. i presumed 'model' as these kind of places always come up with exaggerated words to describe their top girls (my favourite was 'superstar' at sayuri in chiang mai). she was extremely pretty up close and reminded me facially of a younger jennifer lopez. she had a stella body and was very smiley and affectionate, taking my hand and leading me to the lift. when the door closed she playfully tickled me as we climbed to the 4th floor. wow, what a girl. her name was bee and she was 25.

she led me hand-in-hand down a long corridor to our room, past two maids who were neatly piling towels on a trolley. the room was excellent and there was a mirror above the bed which i always enjoy. bee started to run the bath and then began undressing me. she pulled off my shirt and commented how much she loved my white skin before unbuttoning my trousers. she laughed when she saw that i was already hard. suddenly there was a knock at the door and i hastily wrapped a towel around me as a waiter walked in to deliver our drinks. i hate interruptions like this at soapies, it completely halts the momentum. here i was wrapped in a towel, beneath which was a very obvious stiffy, having to pay a waiter for drinks!

bee stripped and she was pure perfection, skin as silky smooth as a michaelangelo sculpture. there was an elegance about her that was only slightly ruined when she put a shower cap on and joked that it was a condom. she spoke excellent english as she carefully washed me in the bath. we kissed but she told me to be careful because she had recently had nose surgery.

she asked me to lie on the inflatable mattress before tipping soap suds over me and using her perfect body to massage me. it felt amazing. as she slid over me she joked "this not exercise, this sexercise! " all girls have their own signature moves and bee didn't disappoint. she gave me a foot-job, wanking me using just her feet. another first for this trip!

what followed was some of the best sex i've had. bee walked to the foot of the bed, knelt on all fours and made cat-claws with her hands a growled like a tiger. it was a promising start. she crawled over me, licked my chest before taking my hand and sucking my index finger. as she sucked it suggestively she locked her eyes on mine and softly ran her fingertips over my chest, making me quiver with excitement. the blow-job was exceptional. she licked and teased and swallowed deeply. it wasn't quite deep-throat but it wasn't far off. as she sucked slow and deep, she locked me with the same sexy stare.

the sex was every bit as good. she rode me in asian cowgirl, both feet planted on the bed, then pulled me to sit upright and kissed me on the lips. i flipped her on to her back and fucked her slowly in mish as she rubbed her clit. this girl loved sex. she slapped me on the hip to make me fuck her harder. at one point she ordered me to fuck her doggy-style and looked me in the eye in the mirror at the foot of the bed. we tried lots of positions. she mounted me reverse cowgirl and rode me with long strokes before leaning back and wiggling her hips slowly, her muscles clenched around my dick. everything she did felt fantastic. it's rare i've been with a girl with such skills. this was the best sex since 'amazonian princess' , a black beauty i picked up from the freelance bar manila bay cafe in philippines.

she took the condom off and by that point i was happy to let her do whatever she wanted! she squeezed lube over my dick and gave me a fantastic hand-job until she heard me coming when she stuck a finger up my ass! it was an intense climax. what amazing sex. her name was bee but she was undoubtedly an a+.

she posed for photos and i gave her a deserved 500 baht tip. we said goodbye and as i walked out i noticed that nok wasn't in the fishbowl. there were now 40 girls and more 'models' . it was 8 pm and although there were more girls at this time, there were more customers too. as i walked out a large group of 15 indian men arrived. previously i have never understood why large indian groups visit massage parlours en masse but i got an insight when i saw one of them instructing the others 'no photos' before handing out small plastic bags to each of them. he was their tour guide! i wondered what was in the bags.

i walked down soi 2 to get to beach road and saw half a dozen massage shops with young girls outside. given their ages and the way the called hello, i think that extras were on the menu. further towards beach road is a beer-bar complex on the right and i spotted pretty girls in each of lucky and new star. i made a mental note to investigate this area further some time.

i got a songthaew back to my hotel and had a shower and a shave. with macca on his way back to england i was flying solo tonight. my plan was to have another night at the soi lk metro gogo bars, where i had two strong options. last night i asked macca if he would mind if i bar-fined pim, the girl he took from bachelor (given his glowing reports about her attitude and service). macca said "no problem mate" . the second option was the 10/10 from crystal club. i would only try to bar-fine her if aom wasn't there though.

but first i wanted to visit some more bars, starting with champagne. it was 9. 30 pm and it was packed with customers. six girls were dancing topless including a cutie with an impressive set of fake tits. my favourite was 318 who was wearing a green bikini and had a sexy, curvaceous body. she was a great mover so i sat hypnotised for a while. the man next to me couldn't take his eyes off a tv screen showing a cartoon in which each of the seven dwarves took it in turns to fuck snow white. i found it strange that he would come to a gogo bar and watch a cartoon! every few minutes the girls shuffled forward and the girl at the front stepped off the stage as a new one got up at the back. i like bars that have a good rotation policy, so you can see lots of girls from the comfort of your seat. the prettiest girl was a tiny girl who walked up on stage eating a banana in a rather provocative manner.

"give me somebody to love" i thought as i walked in to queen. last year this club impressed me. would it rock me again or would i want to break free? it was smoky inside with a high ceiling and loud music. eight girls were dancing and the quality was high. a pretty girl with fair hair was dancing in front of me and smiled in my direction. she had a lovely body. after a few minutes there was a dance-shift change and she came to sit next to me with two other girls. before i even had chance to say hello, a waitress asked "lady-drinks sir? " and pointed to all three girls. i like to think i am generous but i'm not that generous! i stuck to my 'one boy-drink, one lady-drink' rule and offered one to the pretty girl who had been smiling to me from the stage. she ordered a tequila and held my hand by way of thanks. her name was ao and she was 22 years old from bangkok.

i noticed several other hotties on stage, including a blond with tattoos who looked like she was auditioning for a hip-hop video. sat behind me was an absolute doll with long curly hair, talking to a customer. suddenly the girls left the stage and a show started in which six topless girls with fake tits performed with lanterns. none of the girls wore number badges, so i asked ao what her number was. she didn't have a badge but pulled my chit out of the cup and pointed at the number 224.

although it was early, i liked this girl so i offered her a second drink. another tequila went on to my bill. she gave me a long lingering kiss on the lips, playfully darting her tongue in to my mouth. it suggested to me that this girl was likely to provide the 'girlfriend experience' . a waitress walked up to me and said "you bar-fine? " although it was early, i decided to enquire about prices. the bar-fine was steep at 1500 baht, although it slides down to 1000 baht after midnight. on top of that ao quoted 2000 for short-time. it was too early so i told ao that i would definitely either bar-fine her later tonight or tomorrow.

i was pleased as now i had three very strong options. ao from queen, pim from bachelor and the 10/10 from crystal club.

next i went to destiny, a few doors along from devil's den. there were ten girls dancing on a small stage and i was joined by a cute young girl with braces on her teeth. her name was fa and she was a bubbly little thing. "you buy me drink? " she asked after a while and i said that i would in exchange for a kiss. she kissed me on the lips and a 195 baht vodka coke went on to my chit. fa pointed at a shy looking girl on stage and told me that it was her sister. she waved at us and via hand signals i told her that fa was 'ting tong' which made her laugh. when she finished dancing she came down to sit next to us. like her sister she had braces on her teeth.

for a small bar i was impressed with the quality of girls. number 37 was the prettiest and she was a great mover too. she knew that most of the men in the club were watching her and made a big performance of pulling off her bikini top, swirling it over her head and throwing it to a man next to the stage. she had small, firm tits with nipples you could hang your hat on. from the outside it would be easy to walk past a small bar like this but it was definitely a hidden gem.

would there be an award-winning line-up of leading ladies at oscars? there were six girls dancing and all were young girl-next-door types. the girls were smiling down from the stage and interacting with the customers. number 113 sat next to me. she was a fresh-faced cutie with short blond hair and small tits. her name was pat and i liked the fact that she didn't ask for a lady-drink, so i bought her one. she was ting-tong and lots of fun. a pretty girl with a large tattoo on her back walked past and i saw a young girl in the corner who was extremely cute. a man next to the stage had a 3/10 sat on his lap. what she lacked in beauty she made up for with cleavage and the man took great pleasure in burying his face in to her big tits.

it was midnight and time to bar-fine a girl. i considered going to bachelor to bar-fine pim (macca's girl) but then i remembered ao from queen. she was undoubtedly the standout girl of the night so far.

i went back to queen but ao was with another customer. i decided to stay for a drink anyway in case she became free. the club was packed and there were no free seats next to the stage. normally this is a major drawback but on this occasion it worked out in my favour. i was shown to a stool next to small stage in the far corner when suddenly the club went dark and madonna's 'erotica' started playing. within seconds the club was filled with a dozen girls in sexy pvc catwoman costumes and two jumped up on to the small stage in front of me. they prowled around each other on all fours before one began whipping the other one with her tail. it was fantastic and i had a front row seat! i could have reached out and touched them. one of them turned towards me and fixed me with a sexy feline stare, before clawing at me and making a hissing noise. i have that effect on women in england.

the show finished and the club reverted back to a conventional gogo bar. no girls came to dance on the stage in front of me and as i didn't have a good view of the main stage, i decided to leave. i hoped to make eye contact with ao as i walked past but she was busy with her customer. this is always the danger of my modus operandi of visiting lots of bars. often my favourite girl has either been bar-fined or is with another customer when i return later.

i decided it was time to go to bachelor to find pim, the cutie macca bar-fined two nights ago. i sat down and carefully scanned around the bar but couldn't see her. either she had a day off or she was with another customer. or perhaps macca had smuggled her back to england with him in his suitcase? it seemed plausible. a girl sat next to me who looked like an asian version of an ex-girlfriend of mine. her name was mai and she was pretty enough so i bought her a drink. she told me that it was her very first day at the bar. it's quite a common thing to hear from gogo girls to make themselves sound more desirable (everyone loves the idea of deflowering a gogo virgin). however, her story lost credibility when a customer walked in and waved to her. she told me that he was a friend of hers, before hastily adding "but i never been with him" . although mai was a nice girl, we didn't spark so i finished my drink and left.

it was now 1 am and time was marching on. i went back to crystal club. if aom was there, the hottie i bar-fined a few days earlier, i would buy her a drink. but if she wasn't i would have the green light to bar-fine one of the other sexy girls i saw on my previous visit, including the 10/10. the bar was a lot emptier this time, with only six girls dancing and maybe 10 sat on the sidelines. i couldn't see aom and the 10/10 girl wasn't there either. i cursed to myself. on stage i saw the tall girl with the hispanic face but i had already taken a similar looking girl earlier in the day. the cute blond wearing the headband was dancing but she had a rather surly, bored demeanour. i noticed a pretty girl i hadn't seen before on either of my previous visits. she was a young cutie who i assumed was fresh to the business as she seemed shy. perhaps a bit too shy i thought, she would almost certainly be a starfish.

where next? i considered going to sugar sugar to see if the gorgeous girl was there who i tried unsuccessfully to bar-fine on saturday, but i sensed that she would just want lady-drinks and i didn't have time to play those kind of games at this time of night. i decided to go for a quick walk to see if any beer-bar girls caught my eye. i saw the cutie at jony's bar who always smiled to me whenever i walked past. previously she had always been with a customer but now she was sat on her own. i stopped and said hello, but she seemed a bit nervous and hesitant. up-close she wasn't quite as pretty as i thought, perhaps a 7/10, so after a brief conversation i told her "nice to meet you" and waved her goodbye.

the time was 1. 40 am. i went back to queen to see if ao was available. i walked in, took a seat and immediately spotted her dancing. the girl dancing next to her nudged her with her elbow and nodded towards me. ao spotted me and gave me a big smile. before i called her down from the stage i taught her some of my trademark dance moves, the 'shoulder dance' and the 'invisible towel' . she replicated my moves satisfactorily (as did the girls next to her while laughing) , so i invited her down for another lady-drink. i like girls who don't take themselves too seriously when they are dancing. she took my hand and made me dance along to the music in my seat.

everything was going well until i enquired about her bar-fine. "i cannot do long-time" she said. that was okay because i was only intending to take her for short-time anyway. she said "short-time room upstairs? " i told her that my hotel was nearby but she said "room upstairs only" . it was pointless spending 300 baht for a room when my hotel was just a five minute walk away, plus i didn't have enough money on me. i had about 2000 baht in my wallet which was enough to pay for her bar-fine but would not cover her short-time fee (i had more money in my hotel room).

i told her this and she looked confused. a mamasan intervened and suggested that one of the security guards could escort me back to my hotel to get some money! she obviously thought i didn't have enough money to pay my bill. i smiled and explained "no, no, no, i can pay bill, but i want short-time in my hotel room" . the mamasan looked confused. by this point a security guard was stood next to her, eyeing me like i was a troublemaker. ao's english wasn't good enough to understand what was going on but her body language was now negative towards me. she obviously thought i was a cheap charlie who was refusing to pay my bill.

i took the chit out of the cup and placed it on the table along with 500 baht. "here, i pay bill" i said smiling, before adding "i want to pay bar-fine for girl but short-time at my hotel, not here" . the security guard finally grasped what i was saying. he spoke in thai to the mamasan who took my money and walked away, returning one minute later with my change. she practically threw it down on to my table without a smile. amusingly, despite her terrible customer service, she still lingered in front of me hoping for a tip! i slid all of the change off the tray and put it in to my wallet. ao sat with her arms folded. i don't think she understood what had gone on but she was no longer smiling and flirty. as a result there was no point taking her for short-time now. a simple misunderstanding had scuppered my plans to bar-fine her. "lovely to meet you" i said and left.

the night was definitely not going to plan. at the start of the night i wanted to bar-fine either pim from bachelor or the 10/10 from crystal club but neither were in their bars when i visited. now i had missed out on ao from queen too.

it was getting late. i checked my watch and it was 2. 20 am. normally by this time i'm safely tucked up in bed with a pretty girl but it felt like i was back to square one. then i remembered the cutie with braces on her teeth from jony's bar. she wasn't a stunner but she seemed sweet enough and would stay long-time too. i went to find her but perhaps inevitably her bar had closed. it was turning in to one of those nights.

feeling sorry for myself i decided to call it a night. i trudged back to my hotel but when i got to my room i had a change of heart. i was in pattaya, it would be a crime to finish the night without a girl! 'pull yourself together' i thought as i headed back out. my plan was find anyone to fuck, even if it meant lowering my standards drastically. i didn't want a girl-free night.

it was 3. 10 am so i figured that the gogo bars would either be closed or petering out. as a result i opted for a quickie on soi 6. i took a songthaew but when i arrived my heart sank, soi 6 was almost pitch black. i walked down the street and it was eerily silent with almost every bar closed. lick bar was open but there were only three average girls. a ladyboy lurking in the shadows asked me "where you go? " i wasn't sure but i kept walking. night wish was open and seemed lively but all of the girls were with customers. i reached the end of the street when i saw the silhouettes of two girls walking towards me. one of them had a curvy figure so when she got close i said hello, "you go with me room? " she said. she wasn't a beauty but she had a big pair of tits so i was torn.

how on earth had my night come to this i thought? instead of fucking a gorgeous gogo girl, i was debating going with a beach road freelancer. "700 baht? she said, before adding "i pay for room" every hole's a goal, i thought. i just wanted to fuck someone and go to bed.

she walked me to a short-time hotel near the end of soi 6. an old woman was asleep in a deckchair next to the reception desk. the freelancer woke her up and paid 300 baht to her for the room. "you have room for two hours" the old woman said but i knew i wouldn't need it for that long. the freelancer led me up three flights of stairs to room 405. it was very basic with two single beds and an air-con unit that looked like it might date back to the prehistoric period. the girls name was may and she was 35 years old (nearly twice the age of some of the girls i've taken on this trip). now we were in better lighting, i could see her face properly and she was a 4/10.

the shower wasn't working so we had to use the faucet hose. i dried myself off and lay on the bed, laughing to myself at the way my night turned out. i should have been fucking ao right now, instead i was waiting for a 4/10 in a hovel of a hotel room. despite that, part of me loved the sleaziness of the situation. i hadn't even known this girl for five minutes and i was about to fuck her.

may walked in to the room naked. she was chubby and had large fake tits. she crawled on to the bed and kissed me, trying to stick her tongue as far down my throat as possible. what she lacked in looks she made up for with enthusiasm! she used her big luscious lips to kiss her way down my body and give me a slurpy blow-job. all of a sudden her lack of beauty didn't matter, i was rock hard and desperate to get in to her. she climbed on to me and rode me as i squeezed her tits. i could feel the implants. i flipped her on to her back and banged her as hard as i could. it was hot and sweaty, furious and frantic sex. i shot my load as i pounded her from behind and almost immediately she said "shower" . i think she was in a rush because her friend was waiting for her outside.

after showering it came time to pay. may had agreed to 700 baht but had paid for the room herself, which meant that she was only set to earn 400 baht. as much as i like a bargain, i have a conscience and i didn't think it was right that she should pay for the room. i gave her 1000 baht (700 as agreed, plus 300 for the room). i thought it was very generous but she was clearly a pro and asked "money for taxi? ".

i asked for a photo but she refused which in hindsight is probably just as well. although she wasn't a pretty girl, the sex was memorable and sleazy and at least i had taken a girl. it wasn't how i expected the night to pan out but at least it had a happy ending.

please note: in april i posted a 21 day diary on this forum but subsequently all of the text on certain days disappeared. jackson has since explained that was due to isg migrating to a new server and invited people to re-post if they wish. my apologies if this lengthy post is a nuisance if you read it first time round but i hope it will provide useful information to others.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1575537]"The bar-fine was steep at 1500 baht but Aom told me that it is reduced to 1000 baht after midnight. ".

Is this correct? The bar fine at Baccara is 700 baht, and I thought that was on the high end.

On another note; are there any issues in getting transportation (limo or taxi) from the airport to Pattaya, if it is after midnight? Assuming the current situation remains the same until the end of August, when I arrive. [/QUOTE]Either way it's to much and you should walk unless you are one of those guys that has to have it at any cost. Seen a lot of those.

For the cost of that bar fine you can get layed elsewhere.

I have had slightly above average 6* Baccara girls ask 2500bt for ST plus the 700bt barfine = 3200bt total. Your mileage may vary from very good to so so depending on the girl and the chemistry.

I have also had real friendly and better looking 7* plus Sensations girls ask 2000bt for ST plus the 1500bt barfine before midnight = 3500bt total or 1000bt barfine after midnight = 3000bt total. Your mileage may vary, but I never had a bad time with a girl from Sensations Go Go. So I will take the better looking / better performing Sensations girl every time and pay the ugly barfine.

Of course, there is always the 6: I have had plain 5* but friendly girls ask 700bt ST although many Soi 6 girls now ask and get 1000bt ST + 300bt for the room = 1000bt to 1300bt total. And guess what? Your mileage may vary depending on the girl, how many sessions she has already had previous, and the chemistry. The shag can range from a lot of fun to what a waste of bodily fluids.

That's Pattaya. The choice is Up to You.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1575572]I have had slightly above average 6* Baccara girls ask 2500bt for ST plus the 700bt barfine = 3200bt total. Your mileage may vary from very good to so so depending on the girl and the chemistry.

I have also had real friendly and better looking 7* plus Sensations girls ask 2000bt for ST plus the 1500bt barfine before midnight = 3500bt total or 1000bt barfine after midnight = 3000bt total. Your mileage may vary, but I never had a bad time with a girl from Sensations Go Go. So I will take the better looking / better performing Sensations girl every time and pay the ugly barfine.

Of course, there is always the 6: I have had plain 5* but friendly girls ask 700bt ST although many Soi 6 girls now ask and get 1000bt ST + 300bt for the room = 1000bt to 1300bt total. And guess what? Your mileage may vary depending on the girl, how many sessions she has already had previous, and the chemistry. The shag can range from a lot of fun to what a waste of bodily fluids.
That's Pattaya. The choice is Up to You. [/QUOTE]1000 bht and a bad lay I can live with. 3500 and a bad shag as you say hurts to much. I have never paid over 2000 in LOS and probably never will. I spend months at a time there so I have the time to cultivate the relationships.

But like you say to each his own and there is something for everyone there.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1575539]Wouldn't the better option be heading the shorter route to Bangkok for the night? Less travel time and you'll have a better shot at grabbing something before you hit the sack. [/QUOTE]That has been my strategy. First few days in Bangkok, then to Pattaya, then back to Bangkok for a few days before departure. Plus the 400 baht cab to Bangkok + 350 baht Bell Travel Service transfer to Pattaya is cheaper than the over 1000 baht taxi from BKK to Patts. IMO if you are arriving late your easiest selection for action would be staying at the Nana Hotel which is ground zero for both NP and the NPL.

The metered taxi drivers are asking for higher fares for longer rides due to the curfew. I settled for an all-in 500 baht ride off meter from Nana to BKK airport last week, and might have made out because what is usually a no more than 40 minute trip turned into a 90 minute bumper to bumber ride. In talking to the driver the curfew has really complicated things and disrupted their livelyhood.

SunLover.

Coming down to Pattaya this weekend.

So the curfew is 12-4 am now, right? Still a good time down there? Still worth coming? Or should I cancel my trip? If still worth coming, are there certain places that are handling the curfew business better than others? Or is it all pretty much the same just closing earlier?

Face blurred and in black evening dress is Pim?

All right, nightlife in the tourist area can now getting back to normal. With less travelers in the next few weeks, here's to hoping it will be a buyer paradise.

Http://bangkokpost.com/news/local/413376/curfew-ends-in-Pattaya-samui-phuket.

The curfew is lifted. Have fun gentlemen. [url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/731411-curfew-lifted-in-pattaya-samui-phuket/?utm_source=newsletter-20140603-1634&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news[/url]

[QUOTE=TellAll; 1575570]Either way it's to much and you should walk unless you are one of those guys that has to have it at any cost. Seen a lot of those. For the cost of that bar fine you can get layed elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I, like many other guys, like gogo bars because it means I can go out, have a few drinks and watch dozens of semi-naked girls dancing for a few hours before picking my favourite. That comes at a cost. Of course you can save yourself money if you go to the beer-bars, Soi 6 or Beach Road but for some people it's not just about 'having it' at the cheapest price possible, it's about enjoyment and the thrill of the chase (something some people seem to forget on here when they boast about how cheap they can find sex).

I find the whole argument quite tedious. Wherever you get your girls from, another guy will say he can get just as pretty girls available for cheaper. That's Pattaya. The type of girls I like are the pretty young things that are found in the gogo bars. I posted a photo of a girl I rated 10/10 at Crystal Club and I can safely say that I have never seen a girl that pretty in the beer-bars, on Soi 6 or Beach Road. Not that I don't think those places have some pretty girls but generally you get what you pay for and in my experience the gogo bars in Pattaya have by far the prettiest girls.

Day 18, Thursday: Pattaya.

It was my penultimate day in Thailand so I spent a few hours on the beach, trying to gain at least a semblance of a tan to take back to England with me. It would be nice, just once, to walk back in to my office without some smart-arse saying "where's the tan? " (one day I'll accidentally let slip "I don't have time to sunbathe, I'm too busy fucking girls you could only dream of" . Afterwards I decided to find an internet cafe to write up my diary. The best value internet cafes are in the Soi Buakhao area and as I was walking there, I saw a blond Russian girl on 2nd Road wearing the shortest shorts I have ever seen.

As the afternoon progressed I began to feel ill. I wasn't sure whether it was something I ate or perhaps one of the cold drinks I bought from an ice bucket at the beach. Tap-water isn't safe to drink for tourists in Thailand and often ice is the main culprit of upset stomachs. I took some tablets and spent the rest of the afternoon reading in my room.

By early evening I felt somewhat better but still not 100% . My original plan for this afternoon was to go to Devil's Den for a threesome but I ruled that out. Two pops with two girls for 90 minutes would probably tip me over the edge! However I didn't want to waste my penultimate day in Thailand so I decided to go for a soapy massage. I had already visited the holy trinity of Sabai Dee, Honey and Honey 2 but wanted to try a place called RASPUTIN that I had ready about. It was easy to find. I walked along 2nd Road in the same direction as the traffic, past the top of Soi 6 and turned left down the narrow street sandwiched between McDonalds and Cosy's Bar. It was a dark street that opened up in to a large square. Rasputin was located in the far left corner.

The time was 7. 30 pm and there were 40 girls. It was a strange layout with a long fishbowl that stretched the entire length of the lounge area, which meant that no matter where I chose to sit, I wouldn't get a good view of all of the girls. A young papasan informed me that the girls were split in to different price categories. The cheapest girls sat on the right wore red badges and cost 2500 baht each, those wearing white badges were 3000 baht and the girls became more and more expensive the further towards the exit they sat. The papasan pointed to the girls at the far left and told me that they were 'models' . They were sat on comfortable armchairs to make them look more sophisticated and I almost choked on my soft drink when he told me that they cost a whopping 4500 baht. There were five of them and they were no prettier than the 2200 baht Honey 2 girls (at double the price) . As ever in these kind of establishments, the management had equated beauty to paleness / height.

The cheapest girls (2500 baht) were several rungs below the girls I saw in the other massage parlours. Most were fairly average but just as I was considering leaving, a pretty girl wearing 128 breezed past. She had light brown curly hair and a slim, sexy body. I followed her with my eyes as she walked to the fishbowl and sat down on a step amongst the 3000 baht girls. She was an option. A cute 2500 baht girl kept playfully waving whenever I looked in her direction. She reminded me of my best friends out-of-bounds younger sister who I have often fantasised about. This place has some nice girls but they're overpriced.

I was about halfway through my bottle of water (and therefore halfway to making a decision of which girl to pick) when I spotted a stunner walk past. She had a lovely figure, blonde hair and a gorgeous face. I expected her to be one of the 'models' so was pleasantly surprised when she sat amongst the 3000 baht girls. I watched her as she laughed and joked with the girls sat around her. She was spectacular so I decided to pick her before someone else did. I don't mind paying high prices if the quality of girl is worth it.

She was wearing number 9 so I informed the papasan of my choice. He called her name and she stood up to give me a look at her body. It reminded me of that moment when you go to a fancy restaurant and you order some wine and the waiter gives you a small taste before he pours a glass. You know you're going to say yes but you furrow your brow and pretend that you are giving it careful consideration. I looked her up and down. Slim, curvy and beautiful. Hmmm, yeah, I think I'll take her.

I paid 3000 baht at the cashiers desk and my jaw almost hit the floor when she walked next to my side. She had a stunning face, one of the prettiest I've seen in Thailand. Facially she didn't look typically Thai, she looked like an Asian version of the model Christy Turlington. She had light blond hair and was undoubtedly a 10/10 in my books.

She took my hand and walked me to the lift. As we climbed to the floor above, she told me that her name was Aew and she was 26 from Isaan. The room reminded me of a good quality hotel room with pieces of original art on the walls. There was a ceiling mirror above the bed and a large jacuzzi in the corner. A waitress walked in and asked "drinks, sir? " When I gave her my order she walked to the minibar in the corner of the room, pulled two drinks out and charged me 220 baht for the privilege!

Aew and I undressed and I admired her lovely slim body with small, pert tits. We stepped in to the jacuzzi together but it was very hot. As she soaped and lathered my arms and legs I was dripping with sweat. It was like being in a sauna. Normally by the time I'm in the bath with a girl, I'm rock hard and ready for action but I was feeling ill again. Perhaps it was the heat. Instead of relaxing and getting to know this beautiful girl, I was taking deep breaths and concentrating on not being sick. As I dried myself off I noticed for the first time that there wasn't an inflatable mattress, the most important tool of the trade for any discerning soapy masseuse. Instead Aew asked me to lie on the bed and gave me an oil massage. So not only is Rasputin much more expensive than Sabai Dee, Honey and Honey 2, it doesn't offer soapy massages either.

In fairness, the oil massage was nice. When Aew asked me to turn over I was wowed by her beauty again. She had perfect bone structure, flawless skin and big luscious lips. When our heads were close I tried to kiss her but she pulled her head away. "Cannot kiss customer" she told me before explaining that "most girls don't kiss customer the first time" . She sensed my disappointment because she smiled and said "okay, mouth closed" and kissed me on the lips. This would normally get me hard but nothing was happening. Instead my stomach was churning. I sat up and had a few mouthfuls of water. I wasn't feeling well at all. I asked Aew whether she could turn the air-con on. "Cannot change" she told me apologetically.

I lay back down and she started stroking my dick but there was no reaction. I caressed her firm tits but still nothing. She knelt down next to me and gave me a covered blow-job but I find it impossible to get stiff inside a condom. Last night I was rock hard for a 4/10 but now I had one of the prettiest girls I've ever seen giving me a blow-job and I couldn't get stiff! She sucked and sucked but I was as limp as a politicians joke. It was a combination of the heat, my sickness and the condom.

To be fair to Aew, she tried her best. She took my hand and placed it on her pussy and I fingered her as she sucked me. Still nothing. I couldn't even muster a semi. She took the condom off and rubbed her tits over me but that didn't work either. I didn't feel relaxed at all, I was concentrating too hard on not being sick. I told her to stop and indicated for her to lie next to me.

She seemed really upset. I cuddled up to her and told her that it wasn't her fault. She was silent for a while before saying "it's not about the money, I can make lots of money, I most busy girl" . I looked at her face and she had tears in her eyes. "I get no more customer tonight" she said and when I asked why she pointed to her sad face. "You beautiful" I told her but she seemed genuinely upset, her gorgeous smile long gone. She obviously had such pride in her job that she felt that she had let me down. I'm probably younger than most customers she has been with so she probably saw it as a personal failing. We got changed and no matter what I said, I couldn't make her smile. "Not your fault, my fault! " I told her but she said that it was her fault for putting the condom on. She had tears in her eyes.

Nothing I could say could make her feel better. I felt terrible. Mainly for her but also for me too. I still felt ill, not to mention the fact that I'the just wasted 3000 baht! When the lift doors opened on the ground floor she pointed for me to "get refund" but I decided not to. Getting a refund wouldn't just cost her money, it would reflect badly on her and she didn't do anything wrong. It was my fault for going to Rasputin in the first place when I felt ill. I should have stayed in my hotel until I felt well enough to go out. Lesson learnt.

I just wanted to get back to my hotel. I walked down Soi 6 which was busy with lots of girls. I saw a few cute girls outside Soho and Offshore but taking a girl was the last thing on my mind. I took a songthaew along Beach Road to my hotel and stopped off at a pharmacy to buy some stronger sickness tablets. They seemed to work but I still had a temperature. I lay on my bed under the air-con to cool down.

This was my last full night in Pattaya as my flight back to England was late tomorrow. As a result I had planned to sign off with a gogo crawl and bar-fine one of the girls I missed out on last night, Pim from Bachelor or the 10/10 from Crystal Club perhaps. Or alternatively I could head to Walking Street and bar-fine Nom from Airport or Tom from Beach Club. But I didn't feel well enough to go out at all. I felt sick. It was 10 pm and all I wanted to do was sleep. What a disastrous way to spend my last night in Pattaya.

I struggled to sleep. Some people count sheep when they can't sleep but I counted girls. Because today had ended up completely girl-free, I had only fucked 17 girls on this trip so far (had today gone to plan, the tally would be 19). I hadn't even reached my bare minimum challenge of 20 girls per trip. I decided that if I was feeling better tomorrow, I woud fuck three girls before my taxi left at 8 pm.

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what a disastrous day yesterday had been. normally i end my trips with a flurry of girls, yet somehow i spent my penultimate day in pattaya without fucking one. there's a saying in england if a footballer doesn't score many goals, that he 'can't score in a brothel' . that was me last night!

on the bright side, i no longer felt ill. as a result i planned to make up for yesterdays wash-out with three girls before i had to leave to the airport. every trip i set myself the challenge of sleeping with a minimum of 20 girls and my current tally was a disappointing 17. i needed a sprint finish.

i checked out of my hotel at midday and booked a taxi to suvarnabhumi airport at a small booth next to the reception area. it cost 1200 baht and left at 8 pm which meant that i had eight hours to fuck three girls. i dumped my bags next to the taxi counter and headed out in to the hot midday sun. first thing breakfast, then a lunchtime shag to get things moving. three girls in eight hours, i was a man on a mission.

there was a cheerful girl working at the 7 eleven on soi buakhao. every time i (or indeed any other customer) entered she said 'sawasdee ka' brightly. i always like encountering people who have pride in their job. i bought myself a ham and cheese toastie and ate it at the internet cafe nearby. i still wasn't sure what my plan of action was today. i perused the devil's den website and saw a few girls i liked. gik and mai both looked nice in their photos and a threesome with those two would be a great memory to take from the final day of my trip. but it was too late to book them and the early afternoon lineup at devil's den sometimes isn't very inspiring. also a threesome would take me up to 19 girls for the trip, but after 90 minutes and unlimited pops with two nymphos, i probably wouldn't have any fuel left in the tank for a 20th girl. i decided to give it a miss.

i decided to go to soi 6. it was 1. 30 pm and there were lots of girls perched on stools outside their bars. i spotted two girls on my first recce. the first was a cutie at offshore bar, a third of the way down towards beach road, who was eating noodles for lunch. i saw another good option at bar ole, about two thirds of the way down on the left. she looked sexy, had a nice body and her eyelashes were decorated with jewels. i got to the bottom of the road and turned around. i didn't have a lot of time so it would be one of those two. i back-tracked up soi 6 and the girl smiled at me from bar ole. she was pretty and had a sexy body but she had a gap in her teeth which put me off. i continued walking.

the cute girl at offshore bar had finished her lunch and smiled to me when she saw me approaching her. she looked young and although she wasn't a stunner, she had the cute and innocent appeal that i like. "would you like a drink? " i said and she led me inside. i bought us both a beer (120 baht) and we had the usual chat (what your name, where you from? . as we got to know each other she stroked my leg and i felt myself getting hard. after the 'flop' at rasputin the night before it was a relief.

her name was biw and she was 21 years old. with time at a premium i said "room 300, for you 1000 baht? " and she nodded her head. she led me up to a decent room with a long window overlooking the street below. i peeked through the curtain and could see girls sat on stools on the opposite side of the road, calling hello, to men walking past. the large double-bed was surrounded by mirrors and there was a picture on the wall of a naked blond playboy bunny type with huge tits. "is that you? " i asked and she laughed.

when you go with girls from soi 6, there isn't much hanging around. she locked the door behind us and we both started to get unchanged. when i saw her outside her tits looked a handful but when she removed her push-up bra they were tiny, just like her. she was less than five feet tall. we showered together, dried ourselves off and five minutes after meeting, we were lying naked next to each other on the bed. sadly she kissed with her mouth closed. it seems to be more common in thailand these days which is a shame. perhaps i'm to blame for targeting girls fresh to the business.

you don't have to ask soi 6 girls for a blow-job, it's part of the deal. she crouched over me and gave me an inexperienced blow-job, little more than bobbing her head up and down over my dick for a minute as i played with her small tits. i put a condom on and slid in to her. it was a great sight, her laid on her back, hair spread across the pillow and her legs in the air, smiling up to me as i pounded her. she was so short her ankles didn't reach my shoulders. i fucked her from behind and she rode me to a climax. i joked to her that i'd like to take her back to england with me in my suitcase. she was certainly small enough.

it was 2 pm and it was so far, so good, i had fucked my first girl of the day. my tally was up to 18.

i decided to go for a foot massage. by the time it was over i would be ready for another girl. i chose a place on soi diana and my masseur was a middle-aged woman. she wasn't in the least bit attractive but she had magic hands and i felt myself getting hard when she massaged my thighs. if she noticed she didn't say anything. i had to laugh. last night i couldn't get it up for one of the prettiest girls i have ever met in thailand and yet here i was being massaged by a woman my mum's age and i had a raging boner! near the end of the massage she spoke in thai to one of the other masseurs, another old dear. "my friend says you handsome" she said.

after some souvenir shopping it was 4. 30 pm and time to find another girl. one of the best discoveries of this trip are the massage shops around soi buakhao so i decided to try them again. i walked past the cluster near the top of soi 25 and there were about 20 girls lounging outside. "you want massage? " those closest to the street asked.

a pretty dark-skinned girl with braces on her teeth gave me a big smile. i walked up soi 11 and there were eight young girls at paradise. some recognised me from when i took nico so i waved. there are half a dozen places on this road and near honey a girl grabbed my arm and said "i give you good massage" . she was probably mid-thirties with tattoos and was spilling out of a dress several sizes too small for her. she had the kind of sleazy appearance i like sometimes.

i opted for the dark-skinned girl with braces. she was outside aree massage, about 30 meters down soi 25 on the right. her friend saw me approaching and nudged her with her elbow to let her know i had come back. she looked up and gave me a big smile. she was cute and had a distinctive look that made her look different to thai girls i had met on this trip. she had a dark-skinned ethnic look. like a gentleman i offered her my hand and she giggled as we walked inside. she held my hand tightly and seemed very bubbly so i knew i had made a good choice. she told me that she was 25 years old which surprised me as she looked younger (i would have guessed 19) . she was from udan thani and her name was beer. chok dee!

she led me to a room full of curtained cubicles, each no bigger than the size of a single bed. before long i was naked and face down on the bed as she gave me a back massage. after five minutes she said "me hot, sorry" and took her red t-shirt off. there was no need to apologise. she was wearing a black lacy bra and i could see 'beer' tattooed on one of her breasts.

"you very good" i said as i savoured her delicate touch. she asked me to turn over and when she saw i was hard she asked "extras? " i took her hands and pulled her on top of me and we kissed. she was a fantastic kisser, a major turn-on of mine. she was soft and sensual one minute and passionate the next, trying to get her tongue as far down my throat as possible. we agreed on 1000 baht for 'boom boom' . she took her bra off, revealing a small but perfectly formed pair of tits, and then slid off her knickers. she rolled a condom on to me and used massage oil as lube before slowly lowering herself on. her pussy was extremely tight and she closed her eyes tightly and played with herself as she wiggled her hips on mine in an inexperienced manner. i leaned up and sucked her nipples before flipping her on to her back and fucking her in mish.

in one of the other cubicles we could hear another customer being massaged, so it felt like we were doing something that we shouldn't be (ludicrous of course because everyone who comes to these places will get extras! . we tried to be as quiet as we could but before long we were frantically fucking. she tried to suppress her groans but the bed squeaked with each thrust, giving us away. i fucked her doggy-style and then she rode me in asian cowgirl, both feet planted on the bed, until i came. she lay on top of me, our bodies glistening with sweat and we kissed. five seconds after i had climaxed, a man groaned loudly from one of the other cubicles. beer giggled like a schoolgirl. we showered and got changed. what a great girl. she wasn't just cute and smiley, she was eager to please and a passionate performer. she was the type of girl if i lived in pattaya, she would be one of my regulars. i paid her and gave her a nice tip. she gave me a kiss on the cheek before i left.

two girls down and my tally for the trip was 19. just one more girl and i could go home happy.

i went shopping for treats for my office. no expense spared, i went to the 7 eleven and filled two carrier bags with nuts, spiced mango and seaweed. i spent a few hours at an internet cafe, giving my poor dick time to recover after the two afternoon workouts i had given it.

i had less than an hour left in pattaya and needed to fuck one more girl. when you have time constraints in pattaya, there is only one place to go. i flagged down a songthaew on 2nd road and for the second time today stepped on to soi 6. it was 7. 30 pm and my taxi was booked to leave lek hotel at 8 pm which meant i had just half an hour to find a girl, fuck her, get back to my hotel and get changed. it would be tight.

it gave me very little time to select a girl. if i saw any girl at all who interested me, i would pick her. no time for careful consideration tonight. about halfway down i noticed a girl outside soho with a nice face and four small stars tattooed over her eye. she smiled so i stopped and said hello, the time was 7. 38 pm and i had just 22 minutes before my taxi was due.

i dispensed with the usual getting-to-know-you drinks and said "300 baht for room, 1000 for you, okay? " . she seemed surprised at how quickly our fledgling romance was moving but nodded. as i paid, the manager rang the lady-drink bell and all of the girls came inside and were handed a free shot of tequila (to help them relax for the night that lay ahead). the standard of girls was good. i would rate soho with thai rose and red point bar as the best bar on soi 6.

her name was ao and she 21 from chiang mai. she led me upstairs to a typical soi 6 room with a double bed, a table, a chair and a separate bathroom. we quickly showered and before long we were on the bed. like beer earlier, she was a fantastic kisser. she gave me a really good uncovered blow-job and soon we were fucking. i lay her on her back and fucked her hard and fast and suddenly she groaned "i finish " . i hadn't so we swapped positions and i held her tits as she rode me to a climax. when she heard me come, she lay on top of me and gave me a lingering kiss on the lips before saying "again! . as we showered she caressed my dick, making me hard again. "one more time? " she asked. on any other occasion i would have happily accepted but i didn't have time. my taxi would probably already be waiting. i got changed, paid her and kissed her goodbye before taking a songthaew back to lek hotel. ao had been a great way to end the trip. she was a pretty girl-next-door type who clearly loved sex.

i got back to my hotel at 8. 05 pm and after a quick change of clothes my taxi was leaving the bright lights of pattaya behind and i was heading to the airport. i was pleased. three girls in eight hours and i had reached my target of 20 girls for the trip. i felt like i'd scored an injury time winner in the cup final.

it had been a good trip. i'd been with some great girls and had a lot of fun. bangkok was as brilliant as ever and kung from rainbow would live long in my memory. in future i may plan trips to give myself more time in the capital. burma was an interesting diversion, a beautiful place with some of the friendliest people i've ever met. it's not a place to go specifically for sex although yangon had enough to keep me busy for a few days. i smiled as i recalled the long-time threesome i had with two girls from emperor. and then there was pattaya. it was fair to say i had my moments of frustration, notably the friction burn, the horrible experience with sar and my illness at rasputin, but i still had a great time. bee from honey 2 had given me some of the best sex i've ever had and nico from paradise, som from airport and aom from crystal club were some of the standout girls. seeing macca wearing lipstick would also live long in my memory.

i fucked 20 girls in total and some absolute peaches. roll on the next trip!

please note: in april i posted a 21 day diary on this forum but subsequently all of the text on certain days disappeared. jackson has since explained that was due to isg migrating to a new server and invited people to re-post if they wish. my apologies if this lengthy post is a nuisance if you read it first time round but i hope it will provide useful information to others.

[QUOTE=MRahul84;1575263]Bro. Try TT exchange in soi Diana. Best offer.[/QUOTE]Do they directly change INR to THB, or do they offer a better rate for USD?

Great work Lance!

These are an even better read the 2nd time around.

I will try to get my last, and final report form May 2014 up soon.

Stay horny my friend...

Uncle V.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1574960]Can't really blame them. [/QUOTE]Don't get me wrong, I don't blame them at all.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1575938] but for some people it's not just about 'having it' at the cheapest price possible, it's about enjoyment

but generally you get what you pay for and in my experience the gogo bars in Pattaya have by far the prettiest girls.[/QUOTE]Yeah, exactly. Sometimes it's a bit annoying, this cheap cheap cheap attitude. You can't drive a BMW for the price of a Tata.

[QUOTE=Ekspat;1576291]Yeah, exactly. Sometimes it's a bit annoying, this cheap cheap cheap attitude. You can't drive a BMW for the price of a Tata.[/QUOTE]Sure you can. How much do BMW varry in price globaly, because of different taxes goverments put a. ? Cost of maintainance as well.
Women is not a car, so this situation would have been even easyer to handle. If man kind was not so weak.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1575938]I, like many other guys, like gogo bars because it means I can go out, have a few drinks and watch dozens of semi-naked girls dancing for a few hours before picking my favourite. That comes at a cost. Of course you can save yourself money if you go to the beer-bars, Soi 6 or Beach Road but for some people it's not just about 'having it' at the cheapest price possible, it's about enjoyment and the thrill of the chase (something some people seem to forget on here when they boast about how cheap they can find sex).

I find the whole argument quite tedious. Wherever you get your girls from, another guy will say he can get just as pretty girls available for cheaper. That's Pattaya. The type of girls I like are the pretty young things that are found in the gogo bars. I posted a photo of a girl I rated 10/10 at Crystal Club and I can safely say that I have never seen a girl that pretty in the beer-bars, on Soi 6 or Beach Road. Not that I don't think those places have some pretty girls but generally you get what you pay for and in my experience the gogo bars in Pattaya have by far the prettiest girls.[/QUOTE]If that's what you like and you think that price is fair, go for it. I just have a problem giving a bar 1000 bht for a girl. It is obvious a lot of people don't or they wouldn't charge it.

Me, I just don't like feeling ripped off.

Although we differ in the price for service, still enjoyed your reports. In the end it is about having fun.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1576141]

Baccara, bar fine is 600, short time is 2500.

[/QUOTE]The quote above is the Baccara in Bangkok. I'm not possitive but I was shown the "sign" in Pattaya Baccara and I recall seeing a 700 barfine. Can't recall the ST and LT amounts since I didn't barfine from that club. Anyone know the prices in Pattaya?

[QUOTE=TellAll;1576376]If that's what you like and you think that price is fair, go for it. I just have a problem giving a bar 1000 bht for a girl. It is obvious a lot of people don't or they wouldn't charge it.

Me, I just don't like feeling ripped off.

Although we differ in the price for service, still enjoyed your reports. In the end it is about having fun.[/QUOTE]The difference between a 600 and 1000 baht bar fine is $15. This is not a significant amount of money for me, especially if it guarantees that I have some great sex with a gorgeous girl.

How much do we pay to go to an FKK in Germany? Here in Moscow the going rate for 2 hrs with a girl is almost USD $300! It's even more back in the good old USofA.

But in the end you are right, to each his own. The important thing is we all have fun and share our experience to make it easier to have more fun in the future.

Stay horny my friend...

Uncle V.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1576429]The difference between a 600 and 1000 baht bar fine is $15. This is not a significant amount of money for me, especially if it guarantees that I have some great sex with a gorgeous girl.

How much do we pay to go to an FKK in Germany? Here in Moscow the going rate for 2 hrs with a girl is almost USD $300! It's even more back in the good old USofA.

But in the end you are right, to each his own. The important thing is we all have fun and share our experience to make it easier to have more fun in the future.

Stay horny my friend...

Uncle V.[/QUOTE]I also found that having a local cell phone number helped bring the girls back without needing to barfine them a second time, plus the short time rate was usually a bit less since it was usually them asking to come over.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1576166]Do they directly change INR to THB, or do they offer a better rate for USD?[/QUOTE]Doesn't make sense to change one currency into USD and then into THB. You lose money.

I could change whatever decent money in BKK, Malaysian Ringitt, Chinese RMB, JP ¥ .

[QUOTE=Tomux22;1576351]Sure you can. How much do BMW varry in price globaly, because of different taxes goverments put a. ? Cost of maintainance as well.
Women is not a car, so this situation would have been even easyer to handle. If man kind was not so weak.[/QUOTE]Taxes are a national matter. So in the same nation you can't drive a BMW at the price of a Tata.

In some country you can drive a BMW at the price of a Tata elsewhere. But you need to change country to be able to do so.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1576409]The quote above is the Baccara in Bangkok. I'm not possitive but I was shown the "sign" in Pattaya Baccara and I recall seeing a 700 barfine. Can't recall the ST and LT amounts since I didn't barfine from that club. Anyone know the prices in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]700 BF and 2000ST; paid this time last year. I didn't BF until the end of the night, so feel I got more than just ST. The girl did not have to return to the bar anyway.

Lancelot.

Many thanks for taking the time and trouble to submit your wonderful experiences in your TRs.

Hoping you will be able to go back again soon, I have to wait until November.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1576429]The difference between a 600 and 1000 baht bar fine is $15. This is not a significant amount of money for me, especially if it guarantees that I have some great sex with a gorgeous girl.[/QUOTE]How does it guarantee that the sex is going to be great?

[quote=bionicman;1576458]doesn't make sense to change one currency into usd and then into thb. you lose money. i could change whatever decent money in bkk, malaysian ringitt, chinese rmb, jp.[/quote]actually you lose money by not changing to a hard currency first. you are going to get a much better exchange when changing from usd to baht versus myr to baht. (hell some places won't even accept myr, as my cousin found out when trying to change his money at bank gold.) i know what you are thinking: $1=33 baht and 43 rupees=1 so i will get 33 baht for 43 rupees, but it is not the same and doesn't work that way. nobody wants fucking ringgit or rupees so the rate is shittier when changing from soft currency to soft currency. you will do much better by changing to usd, euro, pounds, or any hard currency before leaving that country. i called myself changing my indonesian rupiah back to baht before leaving bali and got royally fucked, not just by a little bit. i'm talking about by at least 20% what i should have done was change my rupiah into usd in indonesia and then change the usd into baht once i got back to thailand.

Team,

I wanted to give some pointers on price. I go to Thailand every year. It seems too many guys are over paying and the price just keeps going up and up and up. If we are going to talk about Pattaya prices which are different that Bangkok prices. Pattaya independent girls the cost is 500 on the strip next to the beach. Bar girls are 6-700 baut. They all will start with 1000 baut but you talk them down. Other will just take the 600 with a smile. The bar girls of course you have to pay the pay fine also. The prices I quotes are all for short time. Now long time for both not including bar fine is 1000 baut all night long. Any problems just negotiate 200-300 more baut. Gogo girls price varies all 1500 baut and over.

Now Bangkok is 1000 baut short time for street girls. Maybe 1500 long time I rarely do long time.

Thailand is nice because it is cheap. There are some guys that want to argue what a couple more hundred baut? Don't be cheap ect. The difference is the price just keeps raising. Now the great service you got for 600 baut in Pattaya for a beach girl she now has an attitude for anything less the 1200 short time.

Season matters also. Never go in the low seasons! Less customers the thais raise the price. More customers they lower the price.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1576496]How does it guarantee that the sex is going to be great?[/QUOTE]Valid point. Of course you have to do your homework too. Talk to the girl, flirt a little bit and make sure there is some chemistry. That should go without saying.

[quote=mrenternational;1576501]actually you lose money by not changing to a hard currency first. you are going to get a much better exchange when changing from usd to baht versus myr to baht. (hell some places won't even accept myr, as my cousin found out when trying to change his money at bank gold.) i know what you are thinking: $1=33 baht and 43 rupees=1 so i will get 33 baht for 43 rupees, but it is not the same and doesn't work that way. nobody wants fucking ringgit or rupees so the rate is shittier when changing from soft currency to soft currency. you will do much better by changing to usd, euro, pounds, or any hard currency before leaving that country. i called myself changing my indonesian rupiah back to baht before leaving bali and got royally fucked, not just by a little bit. i'm talking about by at least 20% what i should have done was change my rupiah into usd in indonesia and then change the usd into baht once i got back to thailand.[/quote]

[quote=bionicman;1576458]doesn't make sense to change one currency into usd and then into thb. you lose money.

i could change whatever decent money in bkk, malaysian ringitt, chinese rmb, jp .[/quote]although it is possible to change inr directly to thb in bangkok (superrich offers a decent rate), my calculations suggest that changing usd offers me more thb. therefore, instead of carrying inr and changing them directly into thb in bkk or pats, i am thinking of buying usd in my home jurisdiction at every low point, and then carry usd which can then be converted in either bkk or pats, thus giving me more thb. i think i lose less on arbitrage this way, not entirely sure.

When we left off I was just finishing my last LT with my GFE Pim. After I nice farewell round in the late morning we hopped on her motorbike and she gave me a ride into Pattaya. The plan was to run some errands and to do a little shopping for gifts for the folks back home. Another smokescreen to hide the true purpose of my trip. LOL.

I hit the top floor of Mike's shopping center, where various knick knacks can be found. I established a good report with a very friendly young lady who was working one of the shops and ended up negotiating some good deals on a bunch of stuff. The girls was pretty damn cute (slim, light skin, just a bit older) and I thought she was giving me a nice vibe. I considered inviting her for dinner and seeing where it could lead. But I decided against it as I only had one full day left in Pattaya. Why take a risk when there are so many sure things around? I just wish I had more time (and bigger balls) to explore these options. The guys who live and spend more time here sure are lucky and I am sure they have many interesting tales to tell about these kind of pickups. It would be exciting to try to pick up a "regular" girl and I am sure a lot of these girls freelance. I will put this on the bucket list for the next time I am in town and when I have more time.

I went back home to stash my stuff and plan the evenings activities. I decided to give my trusty old standby Rd Car one last shot. It has never failed me and I enjoy the illusion that you are actually picking up a girl in a club. After 3 nights with voluptuous, big-boobed Pim I was in the mood for something a little different. A tall and slim young spinner would be the ticket. Preferably one that had more of a "Chinese' look to her. Think of the sexy teen golfer Nancy Kwan. She always gets dirty old Uncle V's pulse racing.

I hit RC around midnight, but it was still pretty dead and no real good targets were in sight. SO I decided to mosey over to I-bar to check out the action. I -Bar was just getting going and hot younger girls were starting to stream in. I ordered a beer and found a good place to lie in wait. A slim dark young things caught my eye and I made my approach. But she did not seem all that interested and said that she wanted to get a table first with her friends before shed' consider my offer for a drink. SHOT DOWN! This experience made uncle V feel a little awkward. It did not help that all the other farang guys in the place seemed much younger and none were flying solo like I was. I was not really feeling I-bar at this point and decided to go back to RC and give it another shot.

RC was packed and pretty hopping when I got there. I made a few passes around the bar but could not find my Nancy Kwan. I was just about to give up hope when a funny thing happened. During one of my passes around the bar I somehow got squeezed up against a girl in the very tiny space that exists between the bar and the standing tables that are just in front of the pool tables. I made my apologies and she giggled, but I did not really get a good look at her until I had extricated myself and emerged at the other end of the bar.

Lo and behold! The perfect girl! Young, slim, and with that nice lithe athletic body. She also looked great in her slinky black dress. We stated playing the eye contact game and dancing from afar. I finally screwed up my courage and started exaggeratedly waving her on over. Come over! Come over! I must have looked ridiculous. But, I got her attention and she laughed at my antics. And then, surprisingly, she complied and came over! (I love Pattaya). I introduced myself and bought her a drink Her name was Bee and she looked even better now that I was close to her. She said she was with her friend and I told her to also bring her over for a drink. Soon I was sexy dancing with Bee and grinding away. She seemed to be having fun and complimented me on my dancing. We kept getting closer and closer and I could smell her. She smelled absolutely divine, like a mix of jasmine and ginger. She had glitter all over her shoulders and neck and sparkled like the gem that she was. Uncle V was back in heaven again.

I showed her I was a good guy by entertaining her friend while she was in the bathroom. She was a nice girl, but with an unusual haircut. "I like Lee-On- Ahh. Famous lady USA. " It took me a while to figure out that she meant Rihanna and we laughed at the misunderstanding. Lee0 on-ahh told me that she ws moving to Bangkok to take a job at a hotel and that they were out celebrating / We had more drinks when Bee came back. These girls were nice and I enjoyed their company and I think they were warming up to me too.

Now the cheap Charlies out there may criticize me for buying drinks like this. But I look at it as an investment. You want to show the girls that you are generous as it really warms them up to you. Nothing turns women off (women anywhere) more than being cheap. And it usually reaps benefits back in the room (as we will later find out). Besides, the money I spent on drinks for all of us was negligible. The bill coming to less than 1 K Baht.

Bee and Lee-On-Ahh were with a bigger group of friends and she asked if I wanted to come with them to another club. I told her no and said I wanted us to go back to my room. She said OK right on the spot, not even mentioning money. After another round of drinks. Including an ill advised vodka shot for Bee that her friends bought her we were ready to leave. Bee asked if I would drive her motor bike as I was feeling pretty tipsy. As I had also had a few drinks and no license on me I decided not to risk it and we grabbed a moto taxi at the end of walking street to go back home.

I had the moto taxi drop us off at the beach in Jomtien right outside our Condo. To lighten the mood I played a joke. I still had not kissed Bee and thought this would be a nice touch. We walked along the beach listening to the waves and cooling off to the breeze. Finally I leaned her back for a nice long kiss.

We made our way back to my pad. To further lighten the mood I played a joke. Usually the doorman springs to attention to open the outside gate. This time he was asleep. I told her to shush and let him sleep. I exaggeratedly tiptoed past him but he finally woke up smiling. Bee was loving it too, giggling the whole time.

We got back to the room and I mixed us a couple of drinks. We sat on the couch and Bee taught me some Thai as we watched Thai MTV, having a laugh a some o the funny videos. Soon enough we were making out and I had my hands all over her lithe little body. I pulled down her dress revealing a nice set of natural and perky be-cups. I could tell she was getting horny too. I broke off this nice petting session to jump in the shower. After I was done she did the same.

When she got back we moved to the bed and the fun really began. Bee gave me a nice BJ. The softness of her mouth and that pretty little face working up and down on me was soon too much to bear. I threw a condom on an entered her tight little pussy. After a few minutes of me pulling in and out of her she started shuddering and let out a nice long gasp. I could tell that she had just come. I pulled her on top and she started riding me. We tried a few more positions, with me eventually coming inside her in doggy. As I pounded away at her supple young ass, admiring the contours of her sweet little body and the look of pleasure on her pretty face in the mirror. She really seemed to be loving it. After we finished we curled up to sleep, her head nestled up against my chest.

I awoke in the morning with Bee cuddled up next to me. I pulled up the covers and stared at her perfect little body. I was ready for more. But my poor little be was in rough shape form all the drinking the night before. Her head was killing her and she asked for paracetamol. I warned her that this is very bad for your liver after you've been drinking and gave her 2 ibuprofens instead. It was still early, maybe so we went back to sleep. Her nestled up against me and me stroking her pretty little head.

I woke up a little while later and I began caressing her body. She was feeling much better and we began to make out. I started to take off her panties but she would not let me. She said she was sorry but that she had "pussy problem" - meaning that she had started her period. That explained her getting up in the middle of the night and taking so long in the bathroom. I said no problem, and we snuggled up together. I can't say I wasn't a little disappointed. But just being cuddled up with this lovely little creature was a pleasure in and of itself.

She suddenly raised her head form my chest and asked me, "You want me smoke? HELL YES! What followed was perhaps the best BJ I have ever received in my life. I lay back in the bed with her kneeling over my legs. She started slow at first licking my cock and balls. But soon I was in her mouth. She picked up the pace, bobbing her little had up and down over me in a steady rhythm. She was going very deep and I could feel the back of her little throat. I fondled her breasts as she worked me up and down. The image of her pretty little mouth filled up with my cock is forever burned in my memory. After a while I could take no more and I exploded in her mouth. Instead of running off to the bathroom to spit it out (as most Thai girls are apt to do) Bee held me in her mouth, cum and all, still slowly working her mouth up and down my shaft. This felt absolutely wonderful! After about a minute or two of this I let her get up to go to the bathroom. She had a mischievous smile on her cute little face as she held the cum in her mouth.

She came back to bed and cuddled next to me. I thanked her and told he how wonderful I felt and she seemed pleased. It was getting late and time for her to leave. She got up to get ready. She asked me to write down the name of the pills I gave her (she knew paracetamol but had never heard of ibuprofen). I did this on a piece of paper, making it out to be a fake prescription and signing it Dr. Chuk Wow. I Also packed up a few pills for her to take with her. I gave her "present" of 2 K baht and she asked for 100 more for Taxi, and I dutifully obiged. She seemed pleased and gave me a nice kiss on the lips. I walked her down to the reception to get her I'd and to help her get a taxi. She was still wearing the evening dress form the night before and looking damn fine and I could tell that my doormen friends were impressed. I took her number and we bid out goodbyes. I couldn't take my eyes off her and watched as the motor bike took her away.

What a night! I really like this. She'd pretty, young, and fantastic in bed. I wish that I had met this girl much earlier and the trip. Fortunately I have her contacts and we have stayed in touch on LINE. I think I may try and take her on a little trip t one of the more remote and beautiful parts of the country the next time I am in Thailand.

Stay tuned for the next, and last episode, where Uncle-V busts his Soi 6 cherry.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle V.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1576553]Although it is possible to change INR directly to THB in Bangkok (Superrich offers a decent rate), my calculations suggest that changing USD offers me more THB. Therefore, instead of carrying INR and changing them directly into THB in BKK or Pats, I am thinking of buying USD in my home jurisdiction at every low point, and then carry USD which can then be converted in either BKK or Pats, thus giving me more THB. I think I lose less on arbitrage this way, not entirely sure.[/QUOTE]
Take 50's and 100's US notes to Thailand. You get a better exchage rate. Newer bills

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1576553]Although it is possible to change INR directly to THB in Bangkok (Superrich offers a decent rate), my calculations suggest that changing USD offers me more THB. Therefore, instead of carrying INR and changing them directly into THB in BKK or Pats, I am thinking of buying USD in my home jurisdiction at every low point, and then carry USD which can then be converted in either BKK or Pats, thus giving me more THB. I think I lose less on arbitrage this way, not entirely sure.[/QUOTE]Why not buy THB in Delhi, it becomes easy.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=TellAll;1576595]Take 50's and 100's US notes to Thailand. You get a better exchage rate. Newer bills[/QUOTE]Yep always carry USD 100's, the best rate on offer on them.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1575441]The best rate can be found at Click. It is an orange booth a few steps from Tukcom in the direction of Third Road.
..... .[/QUOTE]Good rates on Soi Diana too. Next to Areca Lodge. And another one right across from there.

Seems like they compete. I saw one lady looking through binoculars to check the rates across the road.

Hi folks,

I am British Indian planning a trip to Pattya. Reading through the threds I understand that Indians may not be welcome in some go go bars or even discos. Although I can understand why that is bieng done, but it makes me apprehensive about my trip. I really would not want tyo spend my vacation with the vibe of being dicriminated against. Could you please shed light on how easy / diffcult it is for someone with a brown skin to get good girls. Willing to spend the money!

Thanks!

[QUOTE=TomSf;1576514]
Season matters also. Never go in the low seasons! Less customers the thais raise the price. More customers they lower the price.[/QUOTE]More customers means the girl is in demand more and she'll raise her price, not lower it. Also low season means less competition from other mongers, she's more apt to accept a lower offer if business is slow.

[QUOTE=Tptp76;1576696]Hi folks,

I am British Indian planning a trip to Pattya. Reading through the threds I understand that Indians may not be welcome in some go go bars or even discos. Although I can understand why that is bieng done, but it makes me apprehensive about my trip. I really would not want tyo spend my vacation with the vibe of being dicriminated against. Could you please shed light on how easy / diffcult it is for someone with a brown skin to get good girls. Willing to spend the money!

Thanks![/QUOTE]Indians do have a bad rap in Pattaya and they worked hard to earn it. Play up the part you are British, in the end it's about money.

If all else fails, get you a token white guy to get you in the clubs. Better yet a Korean or Japanese. You're a rock star then. LOL

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1576580]When we left off I was just finishing my last LT with my GFE Pim. After I nice farewell round in the late morning we hopped on her motorbike and she gave me a ride into Pattaya. The plan was to run some errands and to do a little shopping for gifts for the folks back home. Another smokescreen to hide the true purpose of my trip. LOL.

I hit the top floor of Mike's shopping center, where various knick knacks can be found. I established a good report with a very friendly young lady who was working one of the shops and ended up negotiating some good deals on a bunch of stuff. The girls was pretty damn cute (slim, light skin, just a bit older) and I thought she was giving me a nice vibe. I considered inviting her for dinner and seeing where it could lead. But I decided against it as I only had one full day left in Pattaya. Why take a risk when there are so many sure things around? I just wish I had more time (and bigger balls) to explore these options. The guys who live and spend more time here sure are lucky and I am sure they have many interesting tales to tell about these kind of pickups. It would be exciting to try to pick up a "regular" girl and I am sure a lot of these girls freelance. I will put this on the bucket list for the next time I am in town and when I have more time.

I went back home to stash my stuff and plan the evenings activities. I decided to give my trusty old standby Rd Car one last shot. It has never failed me and I enjoy the illusion that you are actually picking up a girl in a club. After 3 nights with voluptuous, big-boobed Pim I was in the mood for something a little different. A tall and slim young spinner would be the ticket. Preferably one that had more of a "Chinese' look to her. Think of the sexy teen golfer Nancy Kwan. She always gets dirty old Uncle V's pulse racing.

I hit RC around midnight, but it was still pretty dead and no real good targets were in sight. SO I decided to mosey over to I-bar to check out the action. I -Bar was just getting going and hot younger girls were starting to stream in. I ordered a beer and found a good place to lie in wait. A slim dark young things caught my eye and I made my approach. But she did not seem all that interested and said that she wanted to get a table first with her friends before shed' consider my offer for a drink. SHOT DOWN! This experience made uncle V feel a little awkward. It did not help that all the other farang guys in the place seemed much younger and none were flying solo like I was. I was not really feeling I-bar at this point and decided to go back to RC and give it another shot.

RC was packed and pretty hopping when I got there. I made a few passes around the bar but could not find my Nancy Kwan. I was just about to give up hope when a funny thing happened. During one of my passes around the bar I somehow got squeezed up against a girl in the very tiny space that exists between the bar and the standing tables that are just in front of the pool tables. I made my apologies and she giggled, but I did not really get a good look at her until I had extricated myself and emerged at the other end of the bar.

Lo and behold! The perfect girl! Young, slim, and with that nice lithe athletic body. She also looked great in her slinky black dress. We stated playing the eye contact game and dancing from afar. I finally screwed up my courage and started exaggeratedly waving her on over. Come over! Come over! I must have looked ridiculous. But, I got her attention and she laughed at my antics. And then, surprisingly, she complied and came over! (I love Pattaya). I introduced myself and bought her a drink Her name was Bee and she looked even better now that I was close to her. She said she was with her friend and I told her to also bring her over for a drink. Soon I was sexy dancing with Bee and grinding away. She seemed to be having fun and complimented me on my dancing. We kept getting closer and closer and I could smell her. She smelled absolutely divine, like a mix of jasmine and ginger. She had glitter all over her shoulders and neck and sparkled like the gem that she was. Uncle V was back in heaven again.

I showed her I was a good guy by entertaining her friend while she was in the bathroom. She was a nice girl, but with an unusual haircut. "I like Lee-On- Ahh. Famous lady USA. " It took me a while to figure out that she meant Rihanna and we laughed at the misunderstanding. Lee0 on-ahh told me that she ws moving to Bangkok to take a job at a hotel and that they were out celebrating / We had more drinks when Bee came back. These girls were nice and I enjoyed their company and I think they were warming up to me too.

Now the cheap Charlies out there may criticize me for buying drinks like this. But I look at it as an investment. You want to show the girls that you are generous as it really warms them up to you. Nothing turns women off (women anywhere) more than being cheap. And it usually reaps benefits back in the room (as we will later find out). Besides, the money I spent on drinks for all of us was negligible. The bill coming to less than 1 K Baht.

Bee and Lee-On-Ahh were with a bigger group of friends and she asked if I wanted to come with them to another club. I told her no and said I wanted us to go back to my room. She said OK right on the spot, not even mentioning money. After another round of drinks. Including an ill advised vodka shot for Bee that her friends bought her we were ready to leave. Bee asked if I would drive her motor bike as I was feeling pretty tipsy. As I had also had a few drinks and no license on me I decided not to risk it and we grabbed a moto taxi at the end of walking street to go back home.

I had the moto taxi drop us off at the beach in Jomtien right outside our Condo. To lighten the mood I played a joke. I still had not kissed Bee and thought this would be a nice touch. We walked along the beach listening to the waves and cooling off to the breeze. Finally I leaned her back for a nice long kiss.

We made our way back to my pad. To further lighten the mood I played a joke. Usually the doorman springs to attention to open the outside gate. This time he was asleep. I told her to shush and let him sleep. I exaggeratedly tiptoed past him but he finally woke up smiling. Bee was loving it too, giggling the whole time.

We got back to the room and I mixed us a couple of drinks. We sat on the couch and Bee taught me some Thai as we watched Thai MTV, having a laugh a some o the funny videos. Soon enough we were making out and I had my hands all over her lithe little body. I pulled down her dress revealing a nice set of natural and perky be-cups. I could tell she was getting horny too. I broke off this nice petting session to jump in the shower. After I was done she did the same.

When she got back we moved to the bed and the fun really began. Bee gave me a nice BJ. The softness of her mouth and that pretty little face working up and down on me was soon too much to bear. I threw a condom on an entered her tight little pussy. After a few minutes of me pulling in and out of her she started shuddering and let out a nice long gasp. I could tell that she had just come. I pulled her on top and she started riding me. We tried a few more positions, with me eventually coming inside her in doggy. As I pounded away at her supple young ass, admiring the contours of her sweet little body and the look of pleasure on her pretty face in the mirror. She really seemed to be loving it. After we finished we curled up to sleep, her head nestled up against my chest.

I awoke in the morning with Bee cuddled up next to me. I pulled up the covers and stared at her perfect little body. I was ready for more. But my poor little be was in rough shape form all the drinking the night before. Her head was killing her and she asked for paracetamol. I warned her that this is very bad for your liver after you've been drinking and gave her 2 ibuprofens instead. It was still early, maybe so we went back to sleep. Her nestled up against me and me stroking her pretty little head.

I woke up a little while later and I began caressing her body. She was feeling much better and we began to make out. I started to take off her panties but she would not let me. She said she was sorry but that she had "pussy problem" - meaning that she had started her period. That explained her getting up in the middle of the night and taking so long in the bathroom. I said no problem, and we snuggled up together. I can't say I wasn't a little disappointed. But just being cuddled up with this lovely little creature was a pleasure in and of itself.

She suddenly raised her head form my chest and asked me, "You want me smoke? HELL YES! What followed was perhaps the best BJ I have ever received in my life. I lay back in the bed with her kneeling over my legs. She started slow at first licking my cock and balls. But soon I was in her mouth. She picked up the pace, bobbing her little had up and down over me in a steady rhythm. She was going very deep and I could feel the back of her little throat. I fondled her breasts as she worked me up and down. The image of her pretty little mouth filled up with my cock is forever burned in my memory. After a while I could take no more and I exploded in her mouth. Instead of running off to the bathroom to spit it out (as most Thai girls are apt to do) Bee held me in her mouth, cum and all, still slowly working her mouth up and down my shaft. This felt absolutely wonderful! After about a minute or two of this I let her get up to go to the bathroom. She had a mischievous smile on her cute little face as she held the cum in her mouth.

She came back to bed and cuddled next to me. I thanked her and told he how wonderful I felt and she seemed pleased. It was getting late and time for her to leave. She got up to get ready. She asked me to write down the name of the pills I gave her (she knew paracetamol but had never heard of ibuprofen). I did this on a piece of paper, making it out to be a fake prescription and signing it Dr. Chuk Wow. I Also packed up a few pills for her to take with her. I gave her "present" of 2 K baht and she asked for 100 more for Taxi, and I dutifully obiged. She seemed pleased and gave me a nice kiss on the lips. I walked her down to the reception to get her I'd and to help her get a taxi. She was still wearing the evening dress form the night before and looking damn fine and I could tell that my doormen friends were impressed. I took her number and we bid out goodbyes. I couldn't take my eyes off her and watched as the motor bike took her away.

What a night! I really like this. She'd pretty, young, and fantastic in bed. I wish that I had met this girl much earlier and the trip. Fortunately I have her contacts and we have stayed in touch on LINE. I think I may try and take her on a little trip t one of the more remote and beautiful parts of the country the next time I am in Thailand.

Stay tuned for the next, and last episode, where Uncle-V busts his Soi 6 cherry.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle V.[/QUOTE]Uncle Volodya,

Interesting report. These woman although are awesome. Are professional prostitutes. You do not need to build up courage to have them come over. This is how they make their living. There job is to get you to buy as many drinks as possible. I recently talked about price in Thailand a few posts down. Normal logic does not make sense in Thailand. I talked before about if you over tip these woman will just start demanding more. Your situation you bought this chick and her friends or friends drinks all night. If she worked there she make money from that. She stays over and the tip is 1000. You gave her 2000 which is a thousand extra and pills. This chick still had the balls to ask you for another 100 bait for taxi money. This is exactly what I am talking about. You had a fun time which was good. Now if 10 other guys did what you did. Now she will be asking for 4000 baut overnight. Plus 100 for taxi money. You come back next year and find her again. Yes I many times see the same girls year after year so its possible. She now demands 4000 with that thai smile. Now in the beginning you did not want to be a cheap charlie. But now these girls are not cheap. Now you feel like a over paying charlie.

At the end of your report. You hesitated giving her the 100. You knew she was taking advantage of your generosity. This should be a learning lesson for you. Thailand is a game. The girls job is to get as much money as possible form you. You job is to spend as little as possible for pussy. Learn the game and realize that Thailand is not about dating your relationships. It is business transactions.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1576799]More customers means the girl is in demand more and she'll raise her price, not lower it. Also low season means less competition from other mongers, she's more apt to accept a lower offer if business is slow.[/QUOTE]Breadman,

That is what sounds logical. Thai business model is to raise prices in bad times to make up for loses. Thais raise prices in the low season the make up for the loss in customers. This is thai math. In the high season they get so used to making money all day they can easily be giving short times for 500-600 bait in Pattaya. Now you have to negotiate even 800 baut sometimes. In the slow season good luck. It is 1000 baut and up.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1576799]More customers means the girl is in demand more and she'll raise her price, not lower it. Also low season means less competition from other mongers, she's more apt to accept a lower offer if business is slow.[/QUOTE]To Breadman.

TomSF is just a Lurker non of his post make sense he just pretend he know a little but he know Jack he just post some 2 cent post so he can keep his free Membership in ISG, he do this in China forum too newbie offering advice to other Newbie for senior member that been around know that is full of it.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1576501]Actually you lose money by not changing to a hard currency first. [/QUOTE]Too much of an hassle for me to run around in changing and over changing. I either have euro or JP ¥ as major currencies to turn into Thai baht for the "living" when in BKK. The other currencies are some left over from previous trips! Max 100€, so, instead of bringing them back and keep a "collection" of 2-3 currencies till next time I rather change into baht as usually this land is the first and last port of call in my trips (doesn't happen by chance, of course). I am not going to change Ringitt for 70 $ into $ in KL and the. Turn the US $ into bahts.

Am I going to loose a drink? Be it. I would be worried if my expenditure capacity depends on 500 baht currency difference.

Anyhow each time one changes the exchange booth has to make money. And they do not bother about the demand of the weak currency. Unless you use some "private run booth" living on tight margins. I use SCB: they simply move the Ringitt to the airport booth where somebody going to KL will buy them. Or I change at the airport.

[QUOTE=Tptp76;1576696]Hi folks,

I am British Indian planning a trip to Pattya. Reading through the threds I understand that Indians may not be welcome in some go go bars or even discos. Although I can understand why that is bieng done, but it makes me apprehensive about my trip. I really would not want tyo spend my vacation with the vibe of being dicriminated against. Could you please shed light on how easy / diffcult it is for someone with a brown skin to get good girls. Willing to spend the money!

Thanks![/QUOTE]T76,

I m indian &,brown skin!! Initially was stopped at some of the gogos. After a no of trips, I am now welcome at all.

Like the IITs, once you are in, you are through!!

Its the bouncer at the entrance who decides. Pass him a 200 baht and use your british accent. Its all about money. Having it, and willing to spend.

Once you are in, be liberal. Tip the madam upfront, buy ladydrinks, ping pong balls, above all, smile and talk nice. Once you bar fine a girl, make sure the guy at the exit notices you leaving with girl of choice, pass him another 100 baht, he will be all grins, next time you go hunting.

Girls defenitely don't mind the ethnicity, as long as you treat them like your girl friend, you are their boy friend!

There is no discrimination at all anywhere else, Indians are important contributors to thai economy. And thais are a very friendly people.

Do have a carefree holiday!

NM.

I am British Indian planning a trip to Pattya. Reading through the threds I understand that Indians may not be welcome in some go go bars or even discos. Although I can understand why that is bieng done, but it makes me apprehensive about my trip. I really would not want tyo spend my vacation with the vibe of being dicriminated against. Could you please shed light on how easy / diffcult it is for someone with a brown skin to get good girls. Willing to spend the money!

Thanks.

T76,

I m indian &,brown skin!! Initially was stopped at some of the gogos. After a no of trips, I am now welcome at all.

Like the IITs, once you are in, you are through!!

Its the bouncer at the entrance who decides. Pass him a 200 baht and use your british accent. Its all about money. Having it, and willing to spend.

Once you are in, be liberal. Tip the madam upfront, buy ladydrinks, ping pong balls, above all, smile and talk nice. Once you bar fine a girl, make sure the guy at the exit notices you leaving with girl of choice, pass him another 100 baht, he will be all grins, next time you go hunting.

Girls defenitely don't mind the ethnicity, as long as you treat them like your girl friend, you are their boy friend!

There is no discrimination at all anywhere else, Indians are important contributors to thai economy. And thais are a very friendly people.

Do have a carefree holiday!

NM.

Hello Frenzs,

I am planning to visit Pattaya from India for fun vacation. After reading few reports about Indians, I am bit nervous about treatment to the Indians. Can you pl share your experience and guide me to avail full fulfilled vacation at Pattaya. Your reply will help me a lot. Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

RJ.