[QUOTE=Kfranchie;2655250]Been here with four different providers. See Melina if you can, she's enthusiastic and is very tight.[/QUOTE]Is service comparable to a boate?
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[QUOTE=Kfranchie;2655250]Been here with four different providers. See Melina if you can, she's enthusiastic and is very tight.[/QUOTE]Is service comparable to a boate?
[QUOTE=Kfranchie;2655250]Been here with four different providers. See Melina if you can, she's enthusiastic and is very tight.[/QUOTE]Sounds great. I'll definitely check it out. Are the photos pretty close to the girls' looks? What format was the sessions? Was it half massage and then sex. Or can you just skip the massage and do all sex. Thanks for info.
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2654888]Thanks for the report! I was at Scandallo on Sat Nov 27th too, I arrived since early to finish watching the Brazilian soccer game. I stayed until past midnight, but stroke out this night, I thought the talent was low compared to other days, I'm glad you found your girl!
Coincidently, I also got sick with diarrhea on this trip too, and lasted about 2-3 days, what are the odds? It really got me weak and caused me to waste a day or two as well.
It seems you also got a fair share of BBFS, I thought Scandallo girls are pretty open to it. Prices seem around 1200-1500 pernoite, it's what I was quoted as well pretty consistently. Some of the girls do try to work with you for future visits, although others try to keep their high price.
That is one hell of a way to end your trip, I don't think I would've been this bold to go out with a dupla, but now you've given me an idea![/QUOTE]You could be right about Nov 27th. I went there so many times that I could be mistaking for another day but the place was really rocking at times as compared to my previous trip in September. But the cool thing is that there is usually someone very doable whenever I visited.
[QUOTE=WarmBlankets;2655225]Incredible report, thanks so much for sharing! Definitely keeping those rates in mind as I primarily plan on sticking to Scandallo and per noite with girls I happen to click with when I eventually get around to booking a trip as well. I'm curious about how you handled the cash situation? Was there a particular bank you just retrieved cash daily that accepted foreign cards? Or was there an ATM at Scandallo you used to pay girls? Also did you experience any problems with the Uber app? I've never used app outside the US so I'm not sure if there would be problems. Would hate to arrive after a long trip just to find myself stranded at the airport because the app doesn't want to function properly in a different country.[/QUOTE]Besides keeping about 1-2 K USD in reserve for emergency I usually use some combination of ATM and any excess USD to convert into Real. I use credit card for paying everything else but have never put the girl donation on my card.
For Uber I always used Uber black there is little difference with the regular Uber and it works great in SP never had any issue.
[QUOTE=SexIsLove;2655369]Besides keeping about 1-2 K USD in reserve for emergency I usually use some combination of ATM and any excess USD to convert into Real. I use credit card for paying everything else but have never put the girl donation on my card.
For Uber I always used Uber black there is little difference with the regular Uber and it works great in SP never had any issue.[/QUOTE]And a tip: you should not need to carry your passport to the exchange place. I would have a photo of it and they would provide me a WhatsApp number to send the pic. That was sufficient. And about ATM I never looked in any club would always do it outside usually at Bradesco or Santander banks.
[QUOTE=WarmBlankets;2655225]Incredible report, thanks so much for sharing! Definitely keeping those rates in mind as I primarily plan on sticking to Scandallo and per noite with girls I happen to click with when I eventually get around to booking a trip as well. I'm curious about how you handled the cash situation? Was there a particular bank you just retrieved cash daily that accepted foreign cards? Or was there an ATM at Scandallo you used to pay girls? Also did you experience any problems with the Uber app? I've never used app outside the US so I'm not sure if there would be problems. Would hate to arrive after a long trip just to find myself stranded at the airport because the app doesn't want to function properly in a different country.[/QUOTE]Has all been discussed at length many times before. Please read what's already been written:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2656-Real-vs-Dollar-and-other-currency-issues[/URL]
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2655203]I have meaning to try these higher end clinicas myself. And this is the most expensive one I have found. Total price is more than the almost all of the Clubmodel or Mclass escorts and close to Scandallo prices. I am hoping that their photos are not heavily photoshopped and the service is on par with the less expensive clinicas.
Guy, If you have been before let's us know![/QUOTE]The Palms (350+350) is slightly more expensive than Lotus Lounge (330+350). They are both in Olimpia. Both are tablet-based so you won't have a chance to review the LU in person for interview. I know of at least one girl who used to work at 57 in mid 2021 now works at the Palms. So I guess you are paying higher prices for the more upscale setting.
[QUOTE=WarmBlankets;2655225]... I primarily plan on sticking to Scandallo and per noite with girls I happen to click with ... I'm curious about how you handled the cash situation? ....[/QUOTE]You can pay everything with credit card at Scandallo. There is no extra fee for credit card charge except there is a fee when you pay the girl by credit card via Scandallo. You can pay the girl with cash when you bring her back to your hotel. Most people recommend Bradesco ATM.
[QUOTE=SexIsLove;2655369]
For Uber I always used Uber black there is little difference with the regular Uber and it works great in SP never had any issue.[/QUOTE]I stopped using Ueber Black after realising Ueber Black was open end regarding the price. I once had an Ueber Black driving the most congested route from Itaim to Zona Leste in order to be able to charge me double at the end. The drive lasted 45 minutes longer than it would in an Ueber X. The scam was pointed out to me by my Brazilian friends.
[QUOTE=XXL;2655640]I stopped using Ueber Black after realising Ueber Black was open end regarding the price. I once had an Ueber Black driving the most congested route from Itaim to Zona Leste in order to be able to charge me double at the end. The drive lasted 45 minutes longer than it would in an Ueber X. The scam was pointed out to me by my Brazilian friends.[/QUOTE]Couldn't you report this to Uber? They compy my delivery when it's missing items I'm sure they would cut you a deal on someone disobeying GPS and taking a long route.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2655630]You can pay everything with credit card at Scandallo. There is no extra fee for credit card charge except there is a fee when you pay the girl by credit card via Scandallo. You can pay the girl with cash when you bring her back to your hotel. Most people recommend Bradesco ATM.[/QUOTE]There is a 6.5% upcharge credit cards and ask you to pay in Reals or your currency so there's the conversion fee. Don't have these fees at outside restaurants etc.
Also avoid Santander and Banco24 horas ATMs, I tested to see what the fees and they charged 20 R fee and the conversion was 20% lower!
[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2655618]The Palms (350+350) is slightly more expensive than Lotus Lounge (330+350). They are both in Olimpia. Both are tablet-based so you won't have a chance to review the LU in person for interview. I know of at least one girl who used to work at 57 in mid 2021 now works at the Palms. So I guess you are paying higher prices for the more upscale setting.[/QUOTE]It's the girls that's matters. I don't need a luxury room. If the girls are hotter than the lower end clinicas, then it's worth the extra fee. My plan would get their numbers if they provide good service in the Clinica, and bring them back to my place for longer sessions for cheaper.
57 is odd. On WhatsApp status, I sometimes see a big group of hot girls show up at 57 for a week and then disappear. Also a few nice girls I tried there, also never show up again. There a small group of regular girls that I haven't tried. But it usually pretty quiet there even though it has one of the best amenities of any clinica, good rooms, and charge the same pricing.
Any chance the 57 girl is Blonde mel? I have been wanting to see her again. She has a very pretty face, upper 20's, who does the best sensual Teasing massage I have had. Definitely worth 57 prices.
[QUOTE=XXL;2655640]I stopped using Ueber Black after realising Ueber Black was open end regarding the price. I once had an Ueber Black driving the most congested route from Itaim to Zona Leste in order to be able to charge me double at the end. The drive lasted 45 minutes longer than it would in an Ueber X. The scam was pointed out to me by my Brazilian friends.[/QUOTE]Maybe it was an exception rather than the rule. Just counted have done about 160 Uber black trips Sept thru Dec last year never a problem at least that's my experience.
Got into Sampa Tuesday morning and relaxed from my filght, researching where I would go this morning. Decided to check out Lotus Lounge and it didn't disappoint. As most people have already stated, the selection of a girl is tablet based. There were 6 girls on this morning around 11 AM and, frankly, the whole lineup looks terrific. I went with Alfa who is a tall (5'10") skinny beautiful mulata.
She came in and we kissed standing for a while. Great kisser. Then I took a shower. One of my only complaints with Alfa for the entire session was that she was unwilling to do a mutual shower. I did offer.
After my shower she gave me a really fantastic massage. Top quality. However no body slide, which would have been nice. When I turned over she gave BBBJ with amazing eye contact, then covered FS in multiple positions. Very sensual and passionate the whole time. I tried to extend our session, but she was booked already. So tall and slender with a tiny waist. A fantastic experience overall.
BTW, I corresponded with Patti over Whatsapp (you can get the whatsapp contact from their website) and she was super helpful with telling me who was working that day and who would be a good choice. Really a flawless experience from the staff.
Just an FYI that you only need an antigen test within 24 hours of the first leg of your flight. I ordered my test online through Qured and took the test via video. It was fantastic! And very reasonable. I think I paid $30 or so.
Basically they send you a test and email you a code. You schedule your video appt with that code that they email you. You take the test via video with one of their staff, then photograph the test with your ID and upload it. They then generate a travel certificate for you. It's beautiful.
Basically you only need three things:
-- vaccination proof.
-- COVID test (I recommend antigen, per my comment above).
-- Travel health declaration, basically a form you fill out online from the Brazilian gov't gathering data about your vaccination status, etc.
All these things are super easy. The covid test verbiage can be a little intimidating, as I didn't know if the online antigen test would be accepted. Based on the description for the travel requirements, I thought it would and I was right.
[QUOTE=SinjinSwift;2655889]Just an FYI that you only need an antigen test within 24 hours of the first leg of your flight. I ordered my test online through Qured and took the test via video. It was fantastic! And very reasonable. I think I paid $30 or so.
Basically they send you a test and email you a code. You schedule your video appt with that code that they email you. You take the test via video with one of their staff, then photograph the test with your ID and upload it. They then generate a travel certificate for you. It's beautiful.
Basically you only need three things:
-- vaccination proof.
-- COVID test (I recommend antigen, per my comment above).
-- Travel health declaration, basically a form you fill out online from the Brazilian gov't gathering data about your vaccination status, etc..[/QUOTE]How far in advance of travel do you recommend completing the health declaration form?
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2655705]There is a 6.5% upcharge credit cards and ask you to pay in Reals or your currency so there's the conversion fee. Don't have these fees at outside restaurants etc...[/QUOTE]Does this fee show up on the receipt from the club? I always choose Reals and I don't remember seeing it. My credit card does not charge any fee for international charge.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2655893]How far in advance of travel do you recommend completing the health declaration form?[/QUOTE]Pretty sure it must be filled out within 24 hours of boarding.
[URL]https://formulario.anvisa.gov.br/?lang=en[/URL]
[QUOTE=TheCane;2655893]How far in advance of travel do you recommend completing the health declaration form?[/QUOTE]Max 24 hours before departure. [URL]https://www.gov.br/anvisa/pt-br/assuntos/paf/coronavirus/viajantes/regras-para-entrada-portaria[/URL].
[QUOTE=SinjinSwift;2655889]Just an FYI that you only need an antigen test within 24 hours of the first leg of your flight. I ordered my test online through Qured and took the test via video. It was fantastic! And very reasonable. I think I paid $30 or so.
Basically they send you a test and email you a code. You schedule your video appt with that code that they email you. You take the test via video with one of their staff, then photograph the test with your ID and upload it. They then generate a travel certificate for you. It's beautiful.
Basically you only need three things:
-- vaccination proof.
-- COVID test (I recommend antigen, per my comment above).
-- Travel health declaration, basically a form you fill out online from the Brazilian gov't gathering data about your vaccination status, etc.
All these things are super easy. The covid test verbiage can be a little intimidating, as I didn't know if the online antigen test would be accepted. Based on the description for the travel requirements, I thought it would and I was right.[/QUOTE]This is awesome. I have a qured test scheduled for Monday before my flight to rio. I also have one for the way back. Which airline did you use?
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2655725]It's the girls that's matters. I don't need a luxury room. If the girls are hotter than the lower end clinicas, then it's worth the extra fee. My plan would get their numbers if they provide good service in the Clinica, and bring them back to my place for longer sessions for cheaper.
57 is odd. On WhatsApp status, I sometimes see a big group of hot girls show up at 57 for a week and then disappear. Also a few nice girls I tried there, also never show up again. There a small group of regular girls that I haven't tried. But it usually pretty quiet there even though it has one of the best amenities of any clinica, good rooms, and charge the same pricing.
Any chance the 57 girl is Blonde mel? I have been wanting to see her again. She has a very pretty face, upper 20's, who does the best sensual Teasing massage I have had. Definitely worth 57 prices.[/QUOTE]This girl is a pretty blonde. Her trade name at 57 was Karina. Her trade name now at The Palms is Barbie.
When you bring the clinica girls back to your place, what is your usual arrangement?
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2655999]This is awesome. I have a qured test scheduled for Monday before my flight to rio. I also have one for the way back. Which airline did you use?[/QUOTE]Ditto, I also have qured test scheduled for Wednesday for my flight to Rio and also for coming back. I am flying via AA and I know for a fact that they accept it for coming back to USA. More at [URL]https://www.aa.com/covid19testing[/URL].
Just as a backup I am scheduled at Kaiser to get RT-PCR as well. When do you fly? Love to meet up, I will be in Rio from 5th onwards.
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2656014]Ditto, I also have qured test scheduled for Wednesday for my flight to Rio and also for coming back. I am flying via AA and I know for a fact that they accept it for coming back to USA. More at [URL]https://www.aa.com/covid19testing[/URL].
Just as a backup I am scheduled at Kaiser to get RT-PCR as well. When do you fly? Love to meet up, I will be in Rio from 5th onwards.[/QUOTE]I flew American Airlines as well. They partner with a company that has an app to collect your info ahead of time. You must upload the info to this app before you can get your boarding pass.
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2656014]Ditto, I also have qured test scheduled for Wednesday for my flight to Rio and also for coming back. I am flying via AA and I know for a fact that they accept it for coming back to USA. More at [URL]https://www.aa.com/covid19testing[/URL].
Just as a backup I am scheduled at Kaiser to get RT-PCR as well. When do you fly? Love to meet up, I will be in Rio from 5th onwards.[/QUOTE]I will be in rio on the 3rd only and will be in Buzios for the weekend. I then fly back to SP on Saturday and back home on Sunday. All my trips to Brazil are for work with a weekend thrown in for fun😜.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2656224]All my trips to Brazil are for work with a weekend thrown in for fun.[/QUOTE]Now that's what you call some work "benefits"!
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2656224]I will be in rio on the 3rd only and will be in Buzios for the weekend. I then fly back to SP on Saturday and back home on Sunday. All my trips to Brazil are for work with a weekend thrown in for fun😜.[/QUOTE]No worries, Just curious, why Buzios? More action there? Or for personal / work related stuff.
[QUOTE=SinjinSwift;2655889]Just an FYI that you only need an antigen test within 24 hours of the first leg of your flight. I ordered my test online through Qured and took the test via video. It was fantastic! And very reasonable. I think I paid $30 or so.
Basically they send you a test and email you a code. You schedule your video appt with that code that they email you. You take the test via video with one of their staff, then photograph the test with your ID and upload it. They then generate a travel certificate for you. It's beautiful.
Basically you only need three things:
-- vaccination proof.
-- COVID test (I recommend antigen, per my comment above).
-- Travel health declaration, basically a form you fill out online from the Brazilian gov't gathering data about your vaccination status, etc.
All these things are super easy. The covid test verbiage can be a little intimidating, as I didn't know if the online antigen test would be accepted. Based on the description for the travel requirements, I thought it would and I was right.[/QUOTE]Have it ready when getting off the plane, the lane ushers wants to see it before letting you get in the immigration line.
[QUOTE=SinjinSwift;2656222]I flew American Airlines as well. They partner with a company that has an app to collect your info ahead of time. You must upload the info to this app before you can get your boarding pass.[/QUOTE]Flew Copa to BR twice, the line usher takes pictures of your docs with what seems like their private phones so they can send it to their office. Seems like a privacy issue holding this information on their private phones. Took 20 minutes to check in with the agent, while with American carriers took me 2 minutes.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2655899]Does this fee show up on the receipt from the club? I always choose Reals and I don't remember seeing it. My credit card does not charge any fee for international charge.[/QUOTE]The receipt just shows the total charge. Before it asks you real or usd it asks to confirm the 6.5% conversion fee and does not show you the exact conversion rate. If using an ATM card, it has no fees.
Credit cards always say no international fees but the fine print tells you how they convert currencies and usually they take the lowest rate of the day but some use some cards use other exchange rate calculations which in effect is a fee.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2656282] I will be in rio on the 3rd only and will be in Buzios for the weekend ...[/QUOTE]
No doubt you'll, enjoy Buzios. It's a really beautiful and exceptional place to spend a weekend (albeit a bit pricey).
It would be nice and very appreciative w/r to brief update on Buzios, should you have the energy and indulgence to do so (If not, also no worries).
[QUOTE= CervejaGelada;2656282] No worries, Just curious, why Buzios? More action there? Or for personal / work related stuff.[/QUOTE]
It is a beach resort town, known for it's European Mediterranean like beach town vibe, frequented by and known (at least in the past) as "the playground for the rich and uber rich Brazilians". It is located about 3 hours away from Rio.
It is a non-mongering destination (better to bring the "weekend-wife"), but P4P-action can be found using your 'go to fav' online sources like Tinder or Photo Acompanhantes (Buzios): [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/buzios [/URL]
Basically lots of beach, boating, water sports, biking, hiking and other outdoor type activities are available during the day (if that's your thing). The evenings and nights can be characterized (somewhat) as a romantic stroll through historical cobble stone streets, filled with chic shopping, fashion, ice-cream/acai parlors, bars and culinary cuisines at restaurants that cater to most tastes (vegetarian included). And enough pizza parlors to satisfy simpler tastes.
Good place to interact with various peoples from many nationalities.
[URL]https://www.buziosonline.com.br/home/english/index.cfm[/URL]
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2656282]No worries, Just curious, why Buzios? More action there? Or for personal / work related stuff.[/QUOTE]I am spending a weekend with the girl I was with last time I was in SP. Never done this type of thing so I am going to try it out and see how we do together in a different place.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2656368]No doubt you'll, enjoy Buzios. It's a really beautiful and exceptional place to spend a weekend (albeit a bit pricey).
It would be nice and very appreciative w/r to brief update on Buzios, should you have the energy and indulgence to do so (If not, also no worries).
[/QUOTE]Was planning on it. Where should I post it?
[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2656003]This girl is a pretty blonde. Her trade name at 57 was Karina. Her trade name now at The Palms is Barbie.
When you bring the clinica girls back to your place, what is your usual arrangement?[/QUOTE]For the lower end Clinica girls, I have offering 400 r for 2 hours at my place. This is more than their hourly take in the CLínica to entice the girls to come. You can probably offer less as every girl I have offer this to have taken it without counter offer. Well, one girl ask me to pay for Uber. I am very picky and offer to take home girls who are very high on my ratings. I can penny pince but why bother. The girls are happy to get the money and almost all offer more GFE than I experienced with them in the clinicas.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2656381]Was planning on it. Where should I post it?[/QUOTE]Thanks! That would be great, as I haven't been back in years and would love to know what your brief general take is on things.
Personally, the "Other Areas" thread is pretty good place and then links in the SP or RJ threads, if you need to have tangential references w/r to the queries that my pop up in those threads.
Just MHO, but its up to you. :)
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-reports-record-high-224567-cases-coronavirus-2022-01-26/[/URL]
Should I always ask for ID from girl or take her ID's pic from my phone if I invite her to my hotel? (for security and safety reason?
Which hotel is good that is friendly for me to bring girls in for pernoite. And of course safety of my belongings inside the room is my TOP priority.
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2656673]Which hotel is good that is friendly for me to bring girls in for pernoite. And of course safety of my belongings inside the room is my TOP priority.[/QUOTE]São Paulo is the forth largest city in the world. There are 1354 hotels in São Paulo. Is it Ok if we post the complete list of GF here?
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2656673]Which hotel is good that is friendly for me to bring girls in for pernoite. And of course safety of my belongings inside the room is my TOP priority.[/QUOTE]Do you status with any hotel chains? If so, pick one of those. If you don't, then I would recommend reading a few pages back and there are some discussion of the hotels. I personally always stay at the Renaissance. It is in a very nice area and is super safe plus extremely GF and also has some WG at the bar downstairs in the evenings.
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2656673]Which hotel is good that is friendly for me to bring girls in for pernoite. And of course safety of my belongings inside the room is my TOP priority.[/QUOTE]All the hotels are fine in SP. You just have to decide how much you are willing to pay and in which area you want to stay.
OK let me be specific with my question. Anyone has experienced into Grand Mercure Sao Paulo Ibirapuera hotel.
Safety and GF is my top priority.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2656756]Do you status with any hotel chains? If so, pick one of those. If you don't, then I would recommend reading a few pages back and there are some discussion of the hotels. I personally always stay at the Renaissance. It is in a very nice area and is super safe plus extremely GF and also has some WG at the bar downstairs in the evenings.[/QUOTE]Sweet, thank you!
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2656379]I am spending a weekend with the girl I was with last time I was in SP. Never done this type of thing so I am going to try it out and see how we do together in a different place.[/QUOTE]I'm actually doing the same thing! SP girl included LOL Going to Arraial do Cabo for 5 nights and then either hitting Cabo Frio or Buzio for 2 nights, not sure which yet. Last minute Valentine's week plan because I'm a hopeless Romantic. Cool thing is that Valentine's Day in Brazil is in June so prices are normal.
Was initially going to just go straight to Buzio but all the cool fun things (4 x4, ATVs, horseback riding, etc) are located in Arraial so figured might as well stay there instead of doing an hour drive from Buzio and back everyday. Arraial has Greek Mykonos like houses and villas nearby which looks amazing. Surprised no one has mentioned it before as I always hear about Buzio. Pretty affordable airbnbs can be had for $50-150 bucks so not too bad. Definitely a getaway destination for your GFE / Wife girl.
As much as I like RJ it definitely feels touristy after my 3rd visit so looking forward to checking these new locations and will report back in the RJ thread since that thread gets all the attention and others can benefit about learning about a new place to go in RJ to get away from the hustle and bustle of Rio.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2656756]Do you status with any hotel chains? If so, pick one of those. If you don't, then I would recommend reading a few pages back and there are some discussion of the hotels. I personally always stay at the Renaissance. It is in a very nice area and is super safe plus extremely GF and also has some WG at the bar downstairs in the evenings.[/QUOTE]That reminds me the last to previous trip, I was at the Renaissance bar having a drink before my evening trip to Scandallo. So I bought a drink for one of the better looking branca WG at the bar (maybe early 30's) then took her up to the room (surreptitiously no one had a clue except fellow ISG monger Giuseppe). Quick BBBJCIM. No talk of money but tipped 200 R. SP is right up there in the top mongering places on the planet!
Tax deductible?
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2656224]I will be in rio on the 3rd only and will be in Buzios for the weekend. I then fly back to SP on Saturday and back home on Sunday. All my trips to Brazil are for work with a weekend thrown in for fun😜.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SexIsLove;2654781] Anyways she quoted 600/ HR [/QUOTE]Hi,
Sorry for the newbie question. Heading to SP for the first time. So this 600 reals per hour means you pop twice in the hour, right?
A stunning looking girl from Barras VIP just quoted me USD 50 for an hour. Can that be true or it maybe a typo on her part.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2658200]A stunning looking girl from Barras VIP just quoted me USD 50 for an hour. Can that be true or it maybe a typo on her part.[/QUOTE]It very well could be true. But, it also could be true that she's not quite as stunning as her pics would suggest hahaha! But, that site does have a strong reputation. So, good luck bro!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2658213]It very well could be true. But, it also could be true that she's not quite as stunning as her pics would suggest hahaha! But, that site does have a strong reputation. So, good luck bro![/QUOTE]And now I have lost the damn link of the site. Can someone please give me the link? Thanks.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2658238]And now I have lost the damn link of the site. Can someone please give me the link? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Found the site again. What's up with these Barra VIP girls? They rarely respond on Whatsapp.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2658261]Found the site again. What's up with these Barra VIP girls? They rarely respond on Whatsapp.[/QUOTE]You're right. It doesn't say that. I stand corrected.
After 3 cancellations over a year I'm finally arriving in SP Feb 10th - 14th before heading on to Rio. 4 days isn't long so a compressed set of activities for me and my friend travelling.
Will start each morning with a visit to the Prive's.
Prime, Enjoy, Tangara, 57 & Brooklin.
Rest in the afternoon, sightsee and if the boy allows maybe a follow up to sample as many houses as possible.
In the evenings I've reached out to a couple ladies from online who have done video calls to verify the look and will come to the hotel for are $200 an hour. If it's fun, can then try to negotiate for longer.
2 evenings are for going hard with one night definitely in Scandello. From reading this forum and GPGuia the price inflation is a bit out of control and I prefer the CPF ratio from the Prive's so I'm going mainly to look. My friend is more the big spender in that regard.
It would be good to get some tips on a second boate to visit as there has been feedback on all of Connection, Bomboa, Bahamas & Casarao?
I also read here that some T2 Prive girls will take are $400 for TLN; can anyone give the names of the houses that do this?
I'm sure things will change but for now this is the plan and hopefully it all works out as this will be the a mindblower of a trip, especially as it's the first time in SP.
Thanks to all for the contributions, it helped greatly on planning.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2658292]You're right. It doesn't say that. I stand corrected.[/QUOTE]Sorry. Replied on wrong thread.
[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2658395]It would be good to get some tips on a second boate to visit as there has been feedback on all of Connection, Bomboa, Bahamas & Casarao.[/QUOTE]Definitely Casarao. Bomboa from Tuesday to Friday, if you don't mind it being very crowded. When I was there on Friday the quantity and quality were down, but still ok place to chill and chat with the girls.
[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2658395]In the evenings I've reached out to a couple ladies from online who have done video calls to verify the look and will come to the hotel for are $200 an hour. If it's fun, can then try to negotiate for longer.
I also read here that some T2 Prive girls will take are $400 for TLN;.[/QUOTE]200 usd / 1100-1200 reais for an hour is absolutely crazy IMHO.
400 usd 2300/2400 reais for overnight is also crazy, you should not pay more then 1500 for a Scandalo girl for overnight.
Chatting with a girl in Zeus last night agreed to 1000 reais.
Some of these girls think they have a golden pussy.
[QUOTE=Dasisextra;2658615]200 usd / 1100-1200 reais for an hour is absolutely crazy IMHO.
400 usd 2300/2400 reais for overnight is also crazy, you should not pay more then 1500 for a Scandalo girl for overnight.
Chatting with a girl in Zeus last night agreed to 1000 reais.
Some of these girls think they have a golden pussy.[/QUOTE]Sometimes the autocorrect changes BRL to are.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2658548]Definitely Casarao. Bomboa from Tuesday to Friday, if you don't mind it being very crowded. When I was there on Friday the quantity and quality were down, but still ok place to chill and chat with the girls.[/QUOTE]In my last trip in Dec, casarão was packed. In the last week I went on a Friday and Tues and it was much less crowded. There were still plenty of girls but less than Dec. Not sure if it's omicron or because it was raining all day for the last week. I texted a couple of casarão girls I met previously and I guess I have to get to my apt. Still had a good time.
I'm in scandallo tonight weds. And it has the standard amazing selection of girls though a little less than Dec also. I sessioned with who I knew before. Definitely many spinners and hot thin girls. If money is no care and you are in SP for a few days, I suggest just camp out in scandallo. You will be happy.
The clinicas are still great value if you have the time and energy to find the gems. Comparing high end with low end Clínicas. I went to lotus lounge yesterday and sessioned with Alfa, 680 r for one hour. She was a waif tall model. She did all GFE but a little professional. She has worked in the USA before and is going back in next months to work as a stripper+ in Miami. They saw you a tablet with all the girls (probably total of 30) with video and face shots. Some hot girls though I doubt they are newbie.
Contrast to Liz who was a newbie at Kin Clínica, 20 with a great body, 220 r for one hour. She also all GFE but intense. I had come but was still hard. She saw that I was hard and kept stroking, blowing, fucking me and I couldn't come again. I actually told her that it was OK to stop cause I didn't think I would come again. She would stop and ask why and then start stroking me again. She was truly disappointed that she couldn't make me come again. At the end she was about to BBFS when the phone rang.
The reasons I love SP.
[QUOTE=Dasisextra;2658615]200 usd / 1100-1200 reais for an hour is absolutely crazy IMHO.
400 usd 2300/2400 reais for overnight is also crazy, you should not pay more then 1500 for a Scandalo girl for overnight.
Chatting with a girl in Zeus last night agreed to 1000 reais.
Some of these girls think they have a golden pussy.[/QUOTE]As Nordico pointed out, autocorrect malfunction, my bookings are for R$200. I wouldn't even pay the R$1500 for TLN. If some want to call me cheap, I will accept it.
Fact is the minimum monthly wage in Brazil is are $1000. These girls know the gringo's are in town throwing money around and when charging R$1000/1500 they can work 2/3 times a month and make a good living. A GP called Angel Naomi from Club Model charges are $700 per hour and only takes 2 bookings a week max, when SHE's horny. If the local forista's try to negotiate down she tells them she makes more from the gringo's at Scandello and so they can take it or leave it.
Each to their own, but no way I will pay in Brazil more than what I was paying in Abu Dhabi / Dubai for TLN. Saying that, watch a Japa with wide hips walk past in Scandello and me throw my wallet at her!
Thanks for the club recommendations, thankfully Casarao is round the corner from my hotel so can easily check it out. Unfortunately, my membership has lapsed and not sure when the money will arrive to renew it so no PM but if I run into any members, first drink is on me.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2658709]In my last trip in Dec, casaro was packed. In the last week I went on a Friday and Tues and it was much less crowded. There were still plenty of girls but less than Dec. Not sure if it's omicron or because it was raining all day for the last week. I texted a couple of casaro girls I met previously and I guess I have to get to my apt. Still had a good time.
I'm in scandallo tonight weds. And it has the standard amazing selection of girls though a little less than Dec also. I sessioned with who I knew before. Definitely many spinners and hot thin girls. If money is no care and you are in SP for a few days, I suggest just camp out in scandallo. You will be happy.
The clinicas are still great value if you have the time and energy to find the gems. Comparing high end with low end Clnicas. I went to lotus lounge yesterday and sessioned with Alfa, 680 r for one hour. She was a waif tall model. She did all GFE but a little professional. She has worked in the USA before and is going back in next months to work as a stripper+ in Miami. They saw you a tablet with all the girls (probably total of 30) with video and face shots. Some hot girls though I doubt they are newbie.
Contrast to Liz who was a newbie at Kin Clnica, 20 with a great body, 220 r for one hour. She also all GFE but intense. I had come but was still hard. She saw that I was hard and kept stroking, blowing, fucking me and I couldn't come again. I actually told her that it was OK to stop cause I didn't think I would come again. She would stop and ask why and then start stroking me again. She was truly disappointed that she couldn't make me come again. At the end she was about to BBFS when the phone rang..[/QUOTE]Great post Sama. I love SP for the same reasons. I am going to check out Lotus Lounge on my next trip. I have not gone up to now because I prefer a real lineup, not pics, but I got to go. The girls look really good. Too good, maybe. HA HA. But I will see for myself. Alfa looks smoking hot.
[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2658748]As Nordico pointed out, autocorrect malfunction, my bookings are for R$200. I wouldn't even pay the R$1500 for TLN. If some want to call me cheap, I will accept it.
Fact is the minimum monthly wage in Brazil is are $1000. These girls know the gringo's are in town throwing money around and when charging R$1000/1500 they can work 2/3 times a month and make a good living. A GP called Angel Naomi from Club Model charges are $700 per hour and only takes 2 bookings a week max, when SHE's horny. If the local forista's try to negotiate down she tells them she makes more from the gringo's at Scandello and so they can take it or leave it.
Each to their own, but no way I will pay in Brazil more than what I was paying in Abu Dhabi / Dubai for TLN. Saying that, watch a Japa with wide hips walk past in Scandello and me throw my wallet at her!
Thanks for the club recommendations, thankfully Casarao is round the corner from my hotel so can easily check it out. Unfortunately, my membership has lapsed and not sure when the money will arrive to renew it so no PM but if I run into any members, first drink is on me.[/QUOTE]Have you been to Brazil before?
After reading the posts in the UAE forum, I have my doubts about the girls there. I haven't been but have a trip booked in March. But I am pretty sure the girls won't be anything like the Brazilians. Either way, I will be looking forward to your reviews.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2658971]Have you been to Brazil before?
After reading the posts in the UAE forum, I have my doubts about the girls there. I haven't been but have a trip booked in March. But I am pretty sure the girls won't be anything like the Brazilians. Either way, I will be looking forward to your reviews.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of hot girls plying it in the UAE. And the place has the most diverse line-ups on offer of any other country I have ever been to (that's a lot). The problem is that they're not fucking like a Brasiliera, and typically want more money (that was my experience when I went). More money for less work! To that I say bunk! By the way, one of my fav Brazilian girls who I met at the old Cafe Photo had spent some time working in the UAE. Said she made good money, but from a cultural / language standpoint she felt isolated and alone, so chose to come back home to "ply".
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2658971]Have you been to Brazil before?
After reading the posts in the UAE forum, I have my doubts about the girls there. I haven't been but have a trip booked in March. But I am pretty sure the girls won't be anything like the Brazilians. Either way, I will be looking forward to your reviews.[/QUOTE]Last time I was in UAE, most of the girls working were from Russia / Eastern Europe. I haven't been to Brazil yet (arriving there next month) but just from the pics on websites, I think Brazilian girls are much better than the available stock in UAE.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2658976]There are plenty of hot girls plying it in the UAE. And the place has the most diverse line-ups on offer of any other country I have ever been to (that's a lot). The problem is that they're not fucking like a Brasiliera, and typically want more money (that was my experience when I went). More money for less work! To that I say bunk! By the way, one of my fav Brazilian girls who I met at the old Cafe Photo had spent some time working in the UAE. Said she made good money, but from a cultural / language standpoint she felt isolated and alone, so chose to come back home to "ply".[/QUOTE]This was my take from reading the posts on the UAE forum. It looks like there is a huge variety of nationalities available but none seemed to have what the brasilieras have to offer. Same in Hong Kong. Lots of available girls but in the end, I always chose someone from South America.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2653223]Not much discussed but there are some girls who just advertised on twitter. I found a thread that advertises GP in SP. Look at the 600 plus girls that this guy is following. I know a few names but not sure about the rest if fakes. Though looks current. Enjoy. If find a good one, report it!
DeadlockGpguia.[/QUOTE]Twitter is awesome for gp's but just know they on the higher end like around 400-600 reais like the other poster said. But if you want a porn star start building ya Twitter I fucked Lina Nakamura last time I was in SP last September and had Marsha love lined up in Rio before I broke my leg in RJ They are more expensive but Twitter is the way for me. Matter of fact in 2 trips to SP I still haven't made it to a clinic o boate in SP bcuz the list of Twitter girls I want is sooooo long LOL.
[QUOTE=Dasisextra;2658615]200 usd / 1100-1200 reais for an hour is absolutely crazy IMHO.
400 usd 2300/2400 reais for overnight is also crazy, you should not pay more then 1500 for a Scandalo girl for overnight.
Chatting with a girl in Zeus last night agreed to 1000 reais.
Some of these girls think they have a golden pussy.[/QUOTE]You not lying my friend; I was in SP last September and contacted Luna Leblanc (Miss Bumbum 2021) she asked for R1500 for the hour! Needless to say that was the end of that convo and dream.
Miss BumBum candidates and high maintenance women.
I was with a possible Miss BumBum candidate for 2 months. She was a tier 1 terma girl / pick up.
These girls are self absorbed, narcissist, head cases who are constant instagram models. It is such a pain in the ass to date. Always need basically more money — for new cloths, for new bedding, for cleaning, for food and drink for their dirt poor families with 6 brothers, and out of work fathers, and pregnant sisters, fat ass mothers and grand mothers who are fully in support of their hoar hot ass daughter / grand daughters. Vagabundo did wife up the young hot ass for 2 months, for 400 on average for 25 overnights over 2 months, and lots of meals, ubers and expensive luxury movies. But it was a pain in the Mfing ass.
[QUOTE=BMo814;2659082]You not lying my friend; I was in SP last September and contacted Luna Leblanc (Miss Bumbum 2021) she asked for R1500 for the hour! Needless to say that was the end of that convo and dream.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BMo814;2659082]You not lying my friend; I was in SP last September and contacted Luna Leblanc (Miss Bumbum 2021) she asked for R1500 for the hour! Needless to say that was the end of that convo and dream.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2658971]Have you been to Brazil before?
After reading the posts in the UAE forum, I have my doubts about the girls there. I haven't been but have a trip booked in March. But I am pretty sure the girls won't be anything like the Brazilians. Either way, I will be looking forward to your reviews.[/QUOTE]I've been twice, 2014 & 2016. First time to Rio, second time to Salvador and Rio. Eden Spa, where the hostess spoke perfect English was my go to in Copa. A dupla with 2 chocolate beauties out of Dolce Vita was the highlight of my life, yet alone the second trip.
A good friend of mine is an academic in Sao Paulo and he has always told me that when I'm in Brazil don't compare prices to what they are back here in London. If I do that I will think everything is reasonable when in fact if you compare it to what people earn you will see that everything is expensive!
As for the UAE I've done Dubai on holiday and between the Jumeirah Emirates Towers Bar and the Jumeirah Beach Hotel rooftop there was a selection of girls from all over the world, stunning. I didn't go to clubs but it's there. Abu Dhabi was for the F1 in 2017 and 800 AED / £140 (at rates back then) got me a beauty from Belarus and a Moroccan chick, both TLN. Illusions was the name of the club. They may not move their hips like a Brazilian woman, but you'll find something.
[QUOTE=BMo814;2659076]Twitter is awesome for gp's but just know they on the higher end like around 400-600 reais like the other poster said. But if you want a porn star start building ya Twitter I fucked Lina Nakamura last time I was in SP last September and had Marsha love lined up in Rio before I broke my leg in RJ They are more expensive but Twitter is the way for me. Matter of fact in 2 trips to SP I still haven't made it to a clinic o boate in SP bcuz the list of Twitter girls I want is sooooo long LOL.[/QUOTE]How do you find them on Twitter?
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2659096]Miss BumBum candidates and high maintenance women.
I was with a possible Miss BumBum candidate for 2 months. She was a tier 1 terma girl / pick up.
These girls are self absorbed, narcissist, head cases who are constant instagram models. It is such a pain in the ass to date. Always need basically more money for new cloths, for new bedding, for cleaning, for food and drink for their dirt poor families with 6 brothers, and out of work fathers, and pregnant sisters, fat ass mothers and grand mothers who are fully in support of their hoar hot ass daughter / grand daughters. Vagabundo did wife up the young hot ass for 2 months, for 400 on average for 25 overnights over 2 months, and lots of meals, ubers and expensive luxury movies. But it was a pain in the Mfing ass.[/QUOTE]Still got to link with you bud. I have to come back to rio soon to recover some things I left. I was there in September but had to leave; fractured my tibia plateau on one of them god damn lime scooters in copa. I'm hoping to come in April soon as walking without these damn crutches.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2659278]How do you find them on Twitter?[/QUOTE]Thru this.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2653223]... Look at the 600 plus girls that this guy is following. I know a few names but not sure about the rest if fakes. Though looks current. Enjoy. If find a good one, report it!
[b]DeadlockGpguia[/b][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2659278]How do you find them on Twitter?[/QUOTE]Follow at OAndarilho on twitter and just start following girls you see him post, it will start giving us suggestions of people to follow me all. Find another dude or gp look at who they follow and just start following them. Two of my favs are two Argentina chicks at sophiaferrarisp and at YasminePiovane. Also the the jap / Brazilian I post the pic of at eulinanakamura. Be warned they are on the higher price scale but all worth it in my book. I've seen Sophia 4 times total seen her once with Yasmine they are best friends. I saw Lina 2 nights in a row in September I don't mind the repeat if the vibe is right and sex is good. Boa sorte.
So I am flying down to SP on the Thursday before Good Friday and I am looking forward to it. The holy weekend will not be a problem for me. I have got my favorite girls lined up for special reunions that will jump start my trip just fine. Vanessa, Manni, Livia, Julianna are ready to welcome me back with open arms. I miss you girls big time! Only darling, little Sheila has not rsvp'd. I think she has a new phone or something and I might not be able to get in touch with her until I go to Scandallo. Oh well. She was special. What a great French kisser and as cute as a Portuguese Pêra Rocha do Oeste, but I am sure there are many, many attractive girls in the wings ready and willing to show me an equally good time. That's why I dig SP so much and the reason that for this trip I plan to spend 6 weeks here and only 1 week in RJ. What can I say? I am a big city boy. I prefer BKK over Pat too.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2659278]How do you find them on Twitter?[/QUOTE]Of the resources provided by previous posters, IF they post whatsapp phone numbers, it is a sure sign that they are most likely available talent.
Hi all,
I'm staying at Blue Tree Premium Paulista during my first trip to SP. Any reviews of the hotel?
Thanks.
TIG.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2659459]Of the resources provided by previous posters, IF they post whatsapp phone numbers, it is a sure sign that they are most likely available talent.[/QUOTE]I found some who have their numbers listed on Twitter but they are not on WhatsApp. I don't get it. Doesn't it make more business sense to be on WhatsApp for your international clients? Or are they looking for everyone to get a local sim?
Thanks to everyone for your replies though.
Heading to Scandello tonight. If anyone wants to meet up and shoot some shit, look for the dark skinned guy wearing a blue shirt with grey slacks. Supposed to be meeting the girl I spent time with in Buzios. But we have agreed to let things happen as they happen.
Report back tomorrow.
I scheduled the QURED test Saturday morning at 815 am in Buzios for my flight that leaves on Sunday at 950 pm from GRU. The test was done quickly and efficiently and I had my results in my email in less than 30 mins. Uploaded the PDF file to VeriFLY and in approx 1. 5 hrs (they where running behind on verifying test results)! I was cleared to fly.
So much easier than finding a pharmacy, making an appointment and then waiting in line. I am definitely sold on this method.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2660064]I scheduled the QURED test Saturday morning at 815 am in Buzios for my flight that leaves on Sunday at 950 pm from GRU. The test was done quickly and efficiently and I had my results in my email in less than 30 mins. Uploaded the PDF file to VeriFLY and in approx 1. 5 hrs (they where running behind on verifying test results)! I was cleared to fly.
So much easier than finding a pharmacy, making an appointment and then waiting in line. I am definitely sold on this method.[/QUOTE]CDC says "one day before flight" so I guess it's not 24 hours actually since you got the test more than 24 hours before the flight, right?
I am carrying a similar kit with me (Reliant).
Thanks for the info!
Reached around 8 pm and met the girl who I spent the weekend with for dinner. The dinner fine and filled me up. Entry was 400 with 200 for consumables which covered my dinner.
It was a slow night when I came in. The restaurant was practically empty as we ate and the small outside patio was packed. Eventually, they opened up the larger patio on the other side and that got full as the night went on. The nightclub area was empty at the start but also got pretty full as the night wore on.
There were probably 100-150 girls available and not as many guys like the last time I was in Scandello.
Talked to a bunch of girls and ultimately settled on one that was hanging around the area I was chilling at. Settled at are $1000 for all night with anal. Didn't try for BBFS. Two pops. One when I got home and once in the morning when she left.
Met up with ISGer MrLunatix123 and we chatted it up for a bit. Cool laid back guy and maybe we will meet again.
How much did you pay the Scandallo girl for the Buzios trip?
Thanks for the good report.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2660093]Reached around 8 pm and met the girl who I spent the weekend with for dinner. The dinner fine and filled me up. Entry was 400 with 200 for consumables which covered my dinner.
It was a slow night when I came in. The restaurant was practically empty as we ate and the small outside patio was packed. Eventually, they opened up the larger patio on the other side and that got full as the night went on. The nightclub area was empty at the start but also got pretty full as the night wore on.
There were probably 100-150 girls available and not as many guys like the last time I was in Scandello.
Talked to a bunch of girls and ultimately settled on one that was hanging around the area I was chilling at. Settled at are $1000 for all night with anal. Didn't try for BBFS. Two pops. One when I got home and once in the morning when she left.
Met up with ISGer MrLunatix123 and we chatted it up for a bit. Cool laid back guy and maybe we will meet again.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2660064]I scheduled the QURED test Saturday morning at 815 am in Buzios for my flight that leaves on Sunday at 950 pm from GRU. The test was done quickly and efficiently and I had my results in my email in less than 30 mins. Uploaded the PDF file to VeriFLY and in approx 1. 5 hrs (they where running behind on verifying test results)! I was cleared to fly.
So much easier than finding a pharmacy, making an appointment and then waiting in line. I am definitely sold on this method.[/QUOTE]I did the same test on eMed on Sunday early morning for my Sunday night flight. Super easy. 3 minutes to do the test on video. Then wait 15 minutes where I can do something else while the phone camera was still on. 1 min on video again to check the results. The supervisor immediately sent the PDF of the test results to my email.
Not sure how much omicron affected SP. Cases increased some but has stabilized. Overall the numbers in Brazil looks like it has peaked. Everybody is aware of omicron and maybe more mask wearing. The girls don't mention that it has affected them. Everything is open with normal hours. The boates are less full than in Dec. Not sure if it's omicron or just the seasonal variation after the holidays. The clinicas are pretty full of girls and guys. And I didn't get sick and I didn't shy away from anything. I am 2 x plus booster.
I am sure what I was expecting but the summer weather over last 10 days in SP was pretty bad. It rained everyday and just a quick tropical storm. Early last week it literally rained for 3 straight whole days. Very overcast. I brought a pair of sunglasses on the trip, never used them. Wondering if this was fluke or this is what SP summer are like? At least I didn't bake in any of the clinicas.
Sat around Sunday morning wondering what to do after breakfast. Felt that I needed to scratch my last itch of hitting a tight cornhole.
Looked up clinicas but decided against driving around and trying to find the right gem and I am also lazy. So, I decided to check the sites. Sent out a few messages to different girls from different sites and waited for replies.
Went to lunch at Taberna 474 . Which I highly recommend if you enjoy fresh seafood and came back to the hotel. Maybe I might be able to snag a girl at the bar but nothing was waiting. In fact, I didn't see a girl sitting at the bar all Saturday nor Sunday. The hotel was super full with guests so maybe that might be a reason.
Checked PA and came across this:
[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/moema/ninfeta-de-luxo-adoro-sexo-anal-e-sou-bem-safada-id-9j99q[/URL]
Sent her a message and she responded right away so we fixed a time and duration. SP girls don't really negotiate on short times span and I had a plane to catch. So, it would end up costing me are $850 with Uber.
She met me at the bar and I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND this one. Tall, skinny, had tattoos, pink nipples, rosy pussy and a nice squeezable ass.
Gets to the room, she takes a shower to get ready and we start with lots of DFK. Great BBJ and DATY, slip the condom on and enter her tight pussy. I stop after a few strokes and tell her I want that ass. So, she grabs the lube, puts it in her ass and gives me her ass. After hitting it for a while, I finish in the condom and we take a break. She cleans herself up and we do it again for round two. Same process except I lasted much longer and was pounding that ass for a while. She was getting goose bumps all over the body while I was pounding that ass and she handled it well. Finished in the condom and she took a shower and left.
That itch got scratched. Till next time 🤣.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2660200]Sat around Sunday morning wondering what to do after breakfast. Felt that I needed to scratch my last itch of hitting a tight cornhole.
Looked up clinicas but decided against driving around and trying to find the right gem and I am also lazy. So, I decided to check the sites. Sent out a few messages to different girls from different sites and waited for replies.
Went to lunch at Taberna 474 . Which I highly recommend if you enjoy fresh seafood and came back to the hotel. Maybe I might be able to snag a girl at the bar but nothing was waiting. In fact, I didn't see a girl sitting at the bar all Saturday nor Sunday. The hotel was super full with guests so maybe that might be a reason.
Checked PA and came across this:
[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/moema/ninfeta-de-luxo-adoro-sexo-anal-e-sou-bem-safada-id-9j99q[/URL]
Sent her a message and she responded right away so we fixed a time and duration. SP girls don't really negotiate on short times span and I had a plane to catch..[/QUOTE]I've been considering that one for awhile. For me anal is a requirement. And I love them skinny. Although generally I prefer the shorter girls. Still, with a review like that I'm going to have to give her some attention.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2659656]I found some who have their numbers listed on Twitter but they are not on WhatsApp. I don't get it. Doesn't it make more business sense to be on WhatsApp for your international clients? Or are they looking for everyone to get a local sim?
Thanks to everyone for your replies though.[/QUOTE]The international cliente probably represents less than 5% of the mongers. Even in highest priced scandallo, where most locals can't offer, it's less than 10%. I had a few online girls who were shocked I couldn't speak Portuguese. One girl was like WOW. China Man, like I was her first. There is actually a large Japanese community and smaller Chinese community in SP, but they born and raised in Brazil. Asians are so common in SP, everybody assumes I am a local until I open my mouth.
I don't think girls would list a regular mobile number. WhatsApp is everywhere in Brazil. I have never mobile texted anyone. Most likely is that those numbers are disabled.
I had the intention to see more online girls and higher end clinicas. I even had a list of online girls which I never got a chance to contact. And I only visit lotus lounge once and had an ok experience with a beautiful girl and decided it worth it. A lot of time was spent in apt with my regular clinicas girls. My MO is I ask the best clinicas girls for their WhatsApp and get them to me for longer periods for about 200 r per hour. My favorite girl now is a brunette spinner. My good fortune is that she has this week off from her regular normal life day job and she wanted to make extra money. In the beginning of the week, She would either spend a few hour with me or work in her Clínica (which she rarely attend now). When she worked in the Clínica, I avoided that Clínica for that day because I didn't want the chance she would be upset if I took another girl. I know this is a crazy though.
But many of us how crazy Brazilian girls are. The next day she spent with me, I asked her about Duo (threesomes) and if she does them. She says yes and list off a few girls. BAM. My problem is solved. I told her I wanted to do Duos with her and another girl. Over the next three days, I had three amazing duo one hour sessions for 300 r each. Today, she came over to my apt in the morning for a few hour and then she went to work in Clínica and we had a great session with new 18 yo girl. Each session my girl made sure that I had a great time. I only recommend duo with at least one girl you know very well. Clínica girls don't interact with each and sometimes the Passion is lost with two girls. 1+1 doesn't always add to 2. The 18 yo girl was not very experienced but my girl took charge, directed and made sure I had a great last session before flying off today. Probably next time, she said she can ask some girls back to my place for Duos.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2660200]Sat around Sunday morning wondering what to do after breakfast. Felt that I needed to scratch my last itch of hitting a tight cornhole.
Looked up clinicas but decided against driving around and trying to find the right gem and I am also lazy. So, I decided to check the sites. Sent out a few messages to different girls from different sites and waited for replies.
Went to lunch at Taberna 474 . Which I highly recommend if you enjoy fresh seafood and came back to the hotel. Maybe I might be able to snag a girl at the bar but nothing was waiting. In fact, I didn't see a girl sitting at the bar all Saturday nor Sunday. The hotel was super full with guests so maybe that might be a reason.
Checked PA and came across this:
[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/moema/ninfeta-de-luxo-adoro-sexo-anal-e-sou-bem-safada-id-9j99q[/URL]
Sent her a message and she responded right away so we fixed a time and duration. SP girls don't really negotiate on short times span and I had a plane to catch. So, it would end up costing me are $850 with Uber.
She met me at the bar and I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND this one. Tall, skinny, had tattoos, pink nipples, rosy pussy and a nice squeezable ass..[/QUOTE]Great post! For someone who is planning to visit SP for the first time, the site you mentioned is new to me. Seems like girls on this site are charging much lesser than the are $500/600 that seems to be the standard fare on other sites like mclass and private55. What's the catch?
Thanks,
TIG.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2660064]I scheduled the QURED test Saturday morning at 815 am in Buzios for my flight that leaves on Sunday at 950 pm from GRU. The test was done quickly and efficiently and I had my results in my email in less than 30 mins. Uploaded the PDF file to VeriFLY and in approx 1. 5 hrs (they where running behind on verifying test results)! I was cleared to fly.
So much easier than finding a pharmacy, making an appointment and then waiting in line. I am definitely sold on this method.[/QUOTE]Hey Anaggie,
Glad to see you had a good time at Scandallo. It is my favorite place in Brazil. I never had a bad session there.
Anyway, on my 2 previous trips I stayed at Hyatt and the hotel arranged and comped for a RT-PCR test in my hotel room. But since then Biden shortened the time requirements for testing from 72 hours to 1 day, so it's either get an antigen test at a pharmacy to try Qured online.
I like your tip about using Qured online testing and I checked them out online. [URL]https://www.qured.us/return-to-the-usa[/URL].
Everything seems pretty cool, but I just don't understand how this works. Specifically, how do you submit your test sample over the internet to Qured in order for the testing center to compute the results and supply the necessary subsequent verification? Is visual readout confirmation on the video call with your Qured Health advisor sufficient to accomplish this feat? Or, and this is really dumb on my part, is there some kind of a blu-tooth connection on the probe that sends the data directly Qured? I just don't get it. Please enlighten me.
Thanks,
A. H.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2660222]Great post! For someone who is planning to visit SP for the first time, the site you mentioned is new to me. Seems like girls on this site are charging much lesser than the are $500/600 that seems to be the standard fare on other sites like mclass and private55. What's the catch?
[/QUOTE]There is no catch. They are 2 different venues. Boates a nightclubs / bars with FL hookers and live entertainment. Rooms are available on site or you can take the girls out of the club. Up to you. Escort sites have available escorts advertising their services to over the internet. If you spot one you like you can text her WhatsApp number to begin the process. Try both venues and see which one you like. I have met a number of great gals on MClass in SP and Barr Vips in RJ, but I personally prefer #1. Boates in SP, #2. Termas in RJ and #3. Clinicas in SP by a wide margin.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2660205]...I don't think girls would list a regular mobile number. WhatsApp is everywhere in Brazil. I have never mobile texted anyone. Most likely is that those numbers are disabled.[/QUOTE]I vaguely remember that I either removed or changed the first digit to find it on WhatsApp. I just compared the numbers and did it.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2660222]Great post! For someone who is planning to visit SP for the first time, the site you mentioned is new to me. Seems like girls on this site are charging much lesser than the are $500/600 that seems to be the standard fare on other sites like mclass and private55. What's the catch?.[/QUOTE]The nickname of this website is Photo Fakes. Lots lots of fakes. Be very careful.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2660222]Great post! For someone who is planning to visit SP for the first time, the site you mentioned is new to me. Seems like girls on this site are charging much lesser than the are $500/600 that seems to be the standard fare on other sites like mclass and private55. What's the catch?.[/QUOTE]Be careful with Photo, I can tell you from my experience that it's an awful lot of fake profiles at the cheaper level. Make sure to ask them for a video call to verify or see if they have reviews on gpguia. Very easy to get burnt, Anaggie clearly has a handle on his operations but I can attest to have wasted far too many hours trying to find value on Photo.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2660211]I had the intention to see more online girls and higher end clinicas. I even had a list of online girls which I never got a chance to contact. And I only visit lotus lounge once and had an ok experience with a beautiful girl and decided it worth it. A lot of time was spent in apt with my regular clinicas girls. My MO is I ask the best clinicas girls for their WhatsApp and get them to me for longer periods for about 200 r per hour. My favorite girl now is a brunette spinner. My good fortune is that she has this week off from her regular normal life day job and she wanted to make extra money. In the beginning of the week, She would either spend a few hour with me or work in her Clnica (which she rarely attend now). When she worked in the Clnica, I avoided that Clnica for that day because I didn't want the chance she would be upset if I took another girl. I know this is a crazy though.
But many of us how crazy Brazilian girls are. The next day she spent with me, I asked her about Duo (threesomes) and if she does them. She says yes and list off a few girls. BAM. My problem is solved. I told her I wanted to do Duos with her and another girl. Over the next three days, I had three amazing duo one hour sessions for 300 r each. Today, she came over to my apt in the morning for a few hour and then she went to work in Clnica and we had a great session with new 18 yo girl. Each session my girl made sure that I had a great time. I only recommend duo with at least one girl you know very well. Clnica girls don't interact with each and sometimes the Passion is lost with two girls. 1+1 doesn't always add to 2. The 18 yo girl was not very experienced but my girl took charge, directed and made sure I had a great last session before flying off today. Probably next time, she said she can ask some girls back to my place for Duos.[/QUOTE]Great insight, thank you. Can you recommend which specific clinician's would be good for this approach?
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2660090]CDC says "one day before flight" so I guess it's not 24 hours actually since you got the test more than 24 hours before the flight, right?
I am carrying a similar kit with me (Reliant).
Thanks for the info![/QUOTE]It is 24 hrs to enter Brazil with an antigen test.
It is 1 day before to enter the US with an antigen test.
Easy to get confused.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2660182]Not sure how much omicron affected SP. Cases increased some but has stabilized. Overall the numbers in Brazil looks like it has peaked. Everybody is aware of omicron and maybe more mask wearing. The girls don't mention that it has affected them. Everything is open with normal hours. The boates are less full than in Dec. Not sure if it's omicron or just the seasonal variation after the holidays. The clinicas are pretty full of girls and guys. And I didn't get sick and I didn't shy away from anything. I am 2 x plus booster.[/QUOTE]Agree. I did the same. Lived life like it was before covid. The Renaissance was packed with people, the bar was packed at night and the breakfast was slammed on Sunday morning. Some stupid covid rules still in effect which make zero sense like wearing a plastic glove to hold your plate. A mask when getting food but eating in a fully packed room with tables right next you filled with people 🤦127997;8205;9794;65039;.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2660222]Great post! For someone who is planning to visit SP for the first time, the site you mentioned is new to me. Seems like girls on this site are charging much lesser than the are $500/600 that seems to be the standard fare on other sites like mclass and private55. What's the catch?
Thanks,
TIG.[/QUOTE]A lot of them are fake profiles, bait and switch types. The other sites are more professional and the girls pay to be on the site and they are verified. This one is free for anyone to post (I think) and they don't have to be professional pictures. So prices can swing from left to right.
[QUOTE=GoodTimes1031;2660204]I've been considering that one for awhile. For me anal is a requirement. And I love them skinny. Although generally I prefer the shorter girls. Still, with a review like that I'm going to have to give her some attention.[/QUOTE]You won't be disappointed!!
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2660434]A lot of them are fake profiles, bait and switch types. The other sites are more professional and the girls pay to be on the site and they are verified. This one is free for anyone to post (I think) and they don't have to be professional pictures. So prices can swing from left to right.[/QUOTE]This is definitely accurate. But its the wild Wild West. I had success tho and you can too. The key is number of reviews and rating. If a girl has a high rating and a lot of reviews I think the chances are very high she will be good. The OP maybe got a bit lucky with a girl with two reviews. I used five as my min. My girl had like forty reviews said she liked sucking cock, had a video of her doing so, and it was no lie. She was the queen of DFK and head.
But number of reviews is key.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2660247]Hey Anaggie,
Everything seems pretty cool, but I just don't understand how this works. Specifically, how do you submit your test sample over the internet to Qured in order for the testing center to compute the results and supply the necessary subsequent verification? Is visual readout confirmation on the video call with your Qured Health advisor sufficient to accomplish this feat? Or, and this is really dumb on my part, is there some kind of a blu-tooth connection on the probe that sends the data directly Qured? I just don't get it. Please enlighten me.[/QUOTE]They mail a do it yourself test kit to you. At the time of the test, you get on a video call with one of their representatives. You perform the test in front of them and show the result on the video and they email you the test result.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2660247]Hey Anaggie,
Everything seems pretty cool, but I just don't understand how this works. Specifically, how do you submit your test sample over the internet to Qured in order for the testing center to compute the results and supply the necessary subsequent verification? Is visual readout confirmation on the video call with your Qured Health advisor sufficient to accomplish this feat? Or, and this is really dumb on my part, is there some kind of a blu-tooth connection on the probe that sends the data directly Qured? I just don't get it. Please enlighten me.
Thanks,
A. H.[/QUOTE]So with Qured, make sure you buy the fit to fly test for entry to Brazil and back home. They will send you an email with an activation code for the number of tests that you order. Then you need to make an account with qured, use an activation code to set up the appointment. Make sure you set the time for the time zone you are in. So in SP, you would pick the time zone of Brasilia. You can do this before you leave for your trip.
They will send you a text message with a link for the test one hour before. You have to check in 15 mins before your appt time.
They explain everything and you do the test. You will need to bring a black marker with you since you have to write the some info on the test sample. After the 15 min timer, you take a picture of the test result along with a photo ID (passport) and upload it to the qured site. In approx 30-45 minutes, you will get the letter from them. You can save the pdf form and upload directly to VeriFLY so you are cleared for travel info USA.
It sounds confusing, but is really simple.
[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2660429]Great insight, thank you. Can you recommend which specific clinician's would be good for this approach?[/QUOTE]I think clinicas with stable roster of girls who would be used to working together. The ones that come my mind are Enjoy, Prime, Indy / MOAH and Miruna. I believe all of these have a duo from 280 r to 350 r for one hour. If you don't have a favorite girl, it's good to ask the reception which girl combo are good at duplas.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2660568]I think clinicas with stable roster of girls who would be used to working together. The ones that come my mind are Enjoy, Prime, Indy / MOAH and Miruna. I believe all of these have a duo from 280 r to 350 r for one hour. If you don't have a favorite girl, it's good to ask the reception which girl combo are good at duplas.[/QUOTE]I appreciate it man. Didn't have Indy on my list but it's there now. 32 hours and counting, can't wait!
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2660442]This is definitely accurate. But its the wild Wild West. I had success tho and you can too. The key is number of reviews and rating. If a girl has a high rating and a lot of reviews I think the chances are very high she will be good. The OP maybe got a bit lucky with a girl with two reviews. I used five as my min. My girl had like forty reviews said she liked sucking cock, had a video of her doing so, and it was no lie. She was the queen of DFK and head.
But number of reviews is key.[/QUOTE]I can vouch that Private55 are not fake profiles. You can even find many of those girls on twitter and even reviews in the local forums (I. E GPguia).
Gpguia is key.
[QUOTE=Brsvv;2661020]I can vouch that Private55 are not fake profiles. You can even find many of those girls on twitter and even reviews in the local forums (I. E GPguia).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Brsvv;2661020]I can vouch that Private55 are not fake profiles. You can even find many of those girls on twitter and even reviews in the local forums (I. E GPguia).[/QUOTE]As Vagabundo notes, Gpguia is key. Twitter is good for validating an escort's looks presuming she has somewhat revealing facial photos. If you follow review site common sense, Gpguia is a great asset. Look for the escorts with many positive TD's (literally test drives, LOL). Make sure the positive reviews come from established reviewers not guys with one or two reviews. Do yourself a favor and learn some key Portuguese words for anatomy and sexual positions particularly if you want a specific service (I. E. Anal, CIM, etc). If you have difficulty following a Portuguese review, spend the time to translate some reviews.
Rovnak has posted some great advice for finding Brazilian escorts circa 2019. He and I had some discussions on this very topic here on the Sao Paulo forum.
I have always strongly advised against this idea that you could just shop for escorts looking for the best on-line photos. This is true anywhere in the world.
[QUOTE=Brsvv;2661020].... You can even find many of those girls on twitter and even reviews in the local forums (I. E GPguia).[/QUOTE]The opposite is also true on GPGuia so it is better to read review before booking appointment.
My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit. This is not even including the girls on twitter that I have zeroed in on that appear to be pretty amazing as well.
My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2661300]...Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? [/QUOTE]This is a short reply to give you a feel from my experience. Sao Paulo boates are more formal and polished in general. Solarium is more reserved when compared to 4 x4. 4 x4 has a strip club feel. Solarium is very brightly lit. I won't do the things in the club area that I can do in 4 x4 in Solarium because everyone will be watching me. haha.
If you want the termas experience minus the girls. Solarium is better but much smaller. The layout is good like a production line that you flow from one area to the next naturally. It is also better equipped (sofa) and cleaner. 4 x4 has more seating (pool chair) but cramped in the sauna area.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2661300]My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit. This is not even including the girls on twitter that I have zeroed in on that appear to be pretty amazing as well.
My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.[/QUOTE]The problem is you are trying to f—k the whole mega metropolis of São Paulo with 20 million people in a few days of one trip. I make light plans but I usually don't follow them once I'm on the ground. I would not plan too much. Stick to one area and avoid traveling long distances. Hit up a mixture of low end and high end clinicas during the day. And then Scandallo at night. Leave the online game for a future visit.
If you haven't been to Rio, I would advise to go there also on the first trip. It's a different scene and lifestyle. You may end up like the girls there also.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2661300]My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit. This is not even including the girls on twitter that I have zeroed in on that appear to be pretty amazing as well.
My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.[/QUOTE]My opinion is that there is no contest between Scandallo and the top-tier Rio termas. Scandallo wins. You can have fun in a Rio termas for less money, but that's entering another variable. The less expensive boates and the clinicas can help balance the value proposition of the two cities.
The real trade-off is do you want the Rio beaches and its magnificent cityscape. Rio is a premier tourist destination for good reason.
Beyond dining and the working girls, I don't find Sao Paulo that interesting of a city. I actually think Bangkok is a more interesting city. Giving up Rio for more time is SP has been discussed many times and it's a matter of personal preferences.
No.
Go to Rio.
Barra posto 1.
Take the metro to centro prives by day, and go to perola negra and olegario maciel by night. Get pernoites with the hottest women.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2661300]My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit. This is not even including the girls on twitter that I have zeroed in on that appear to be pretty amazing as well.
My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.[/QUOTE]
SP is more polished, more business like and more formal. The girls are more expensive because SP has more money floating around due to it being the financial hub of Brazil. I think the girls are hotter in SP.
Rio is more laid back, informal and go with the flow vibe. The girls are cheaper because the locals are poor according to the girl I was with on my last day in SP.
I enjoy Rio for the laid back vibe but I prefer SP for the wide variety of girls, the hotness level and the variety of food options.
Try both on your first trip and then narrow it down the next time.
Newbie question: How is prive different from clinica?
Any notable prives?
Thanks,
TIG.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2661300]Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas?[/QUOTE]Yes, Sao Paulo is all that it appears to be and more. The termas in my opinion are not worth giving up your time in SP, but if you have never been to Rio de Janeiro, you should definitely go. My opinion is affected by the fact that I don't know RJ very well, but I have visited some termas. In October, or was it November, I was in 4 X4 and it was fun, but nothing you can't find in Casarao in larger scale.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2661300]My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit.
My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.[/QUOTE]Atex, my advice is don't think of it as a zero sum, win / lose game. You will have a great time in SP & RJ regardless of which town you wind up preferring at the end of your trip, and since this is your 1st visit to Brazil, I strongly recommend that you explore both towns, experience what each place has to offer and decide later which place suits your style more.
Now with that said, let me jump into this very controversial issue of which city is more fun:
A year ago, I was in the exact same position as you are now and about to make my 1st trip to Brazil. So I divided my time 55/45 between SP to RJ and I had a great time in both cities. They are very different, but the one thing they have in common is Brazilian girls and they are superb. On my 2nd trip in October I divided my time 65/35 between SP and RJ. See where this is going? KKK. It turned out that I personally preferred the clinicas and boates over the termas and the beach. But that is just me. Anyway trip #3 is coming up this April and I am going to spend 6 weeks in SP (full immersion), and only 1 week in RJ (I couldn't not spend some time in RJ), and I will see how it goes.
A few comments come to mind:
1. Scanadallo lives up to the hype. It is an amazing bordello and one of the best in the world. I am a believer. But don't forget about the other boates like Bomboa. They are a lot of fun too.
2. The termas are also great, but not as great. LOL. 4 x 4 gets pretty wild and it is very colorful, so you have to go, but Solarium has more girls with the kind of looks and bodies that are more to my personal liking. But both of these termas are a must when you visit RJ.
3. The clinicas are great afternoon entertainment and a great deal to boot, but you will have to check out both the clinicas and the boates to see which venue you prefer. Everyone has their own opinion on this. For example, a friend of mine prefers the clinicas and spends most of his SP time there while I prefer the boates and I spend the majority of my time at the boates. He likes the clinica set up better and he likes to do 2 or even 3 clinica girls a day. I, on the other hand, prefer to do 2 boate girls at night. I tried doing a clinica girl in the afternoon and one boate girl in the evening, but it didn't work for me.
4. RJ obviously has beaches and for many that is a huge plus.
5. SP is more expensive than RJ if you are comparing boates to termas. But SP is not more expensive for punters who prefer the clinicas. And IMHO the clinicas are much better than the prives.
So I will end this by saying that if you like beaches a lot you will probably prefer RJ over SP. But if beaches are not your thing you will probably prefer SP over RJ. And if money is no object you will probably hang out at the boates every night.
Hi mongers,
Expect my detail report coming soon, but I will be ion cafe-photo today (Wednesday) night and to Scandello (Thursday) night. Respond to this message is someone want to hangout and we can arrange a dress code. This is going to be my second visit to Scandello.
Cheers. L.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2661300]My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit. This is not even including the girls on twitter that I have zeroed in on that appear to be pretty amazing as well.
My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.[/QUOTE]SP is amazing for the amount of nice high quality options and cheap ones as well for both day and night time. I also think SP girls are way hotter than RJ ones unless you like black girls because there's hardly in SP. I'm more into brancas, loiras and ruvias so it fits my bill. If you like a more tanned look than RJ is the place although some SP girls are tanned but I seen it's more from a machine. That being said SP is really boring as a city. Not much else to do but eat and shop besides fucking. Food is good and well diverse! But I got bored after my 7th day. SP girls are very busy so you won't catch them all the time and if you want to extend your time with them you might not be able to since they have a set schedule usually.
Compared to RJ girls who are very go with the flow and will show you around the city and give you a real GFE experience without much effort or money. RJ is much more fun besides hobbying and I think it's a nice breath of fresh air after going nuts in SP.
Termas and other venues are much much smaller than SPs but it's a different vibe with a different attitude where people just want to have fun, eat churrasco, be at the beach and fuck.
Always best to go to both for your first trip. For "long" trips 7+ days it's always worth it to go to both. For a short trip like a 4 day weekend kind of thing then it's best to just pick one.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2661300]My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit. This is not even including the girls on twitter that I have zeroed in on that appear to be pretty amazing as well.
My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.[/QUOTE]You might not want to put much weight on my opinion because I'm shocked you were sorry that you carved out time in Thailand to visit Pattaya. I love the beach towns especially when they have great nightlife with sex available. Like Thailand it's a long trip to Brazil and you should imo visit both Rio and Sao Paulo just because they are so different. You can plan on visiting 3 or 4 Sao Paulo clinicas each day because they are close together. I needed to usually hit 3 of them before I found a garota with my desired body type (skinny) to session. After six days of hitting clinicas days and boates at night I would think you would enjoy the change of scenery that Rio offers both in terms of a nice beach touristy area and different hobby venues. How would you know what you like better if you don't visit both? For that reason alone you should be glad you visited Pattaya as well.
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2661347]Hi mongers,
Expect my detail report coming soon, but I will be ion cafe-photo today (Wednesday) night and to Scandello (Thursday) night. Respond to this message is someone want to hangout and we can arrange a dress code. This is going to be my second visit to Scandello.
Cheers. L.[/QUOTE]Yes, enjoy ScandAllo!
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2661382]You might not want to put much weight on my opinion because I'm shocked you were sorry that you carved out time in Thailand to visit Pattaya...[/QUOTE]Haha, I reacted the same way about the comment above, regarding wasting time in Pattaya. That's probably why we have that expression which says "different strokes for different folks".
[QUOTE=Balboa;2661402]Yes, enjoy ScandAllo![/QUOTE]Are you in SP? Would love to hang out with mongers?
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2661300]I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Lefeu;2661455]Haha, I reacted the same way about the comment above, regarding wasting time in Pattaya. That's probably why we have that expression which says "different strokes for different folks".[/QUOTE]Or "to each his own". For example, I prefer BKK over Pat, but no way do I consider Pat a waste of time. No fucking way! It is my 2nd favorite spot in LOS, 555, and I go there and spend at least 10 days on top of the 5 or 6 weeks I spend in BKK every time I visit Thailand. It is nice to get out of the big city after a while and seriously, Pat's got more Go Go's, I am talking quality Go Go's than BKK. So what's not to like?
Anyway, it is the OP's prerogative to prefer BKK over Pat. But if this is the case then it is probably a safe bet that he will prefer SP over RJ. But I still recommend, like everyone else who has posted a response, that he check out both destinations as long as time permits so he can indulge and judge for himself. You never know unless you give it a shot.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2661704]...Anyway, it is the OP's prerogative to prefer BKK over Pat. But if this is the case then it is probably a safe bet that he will prefer SP over RJ. ...[/QUOTE]I think Rio is more similar to BKK than SP does.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2661340]Atex, my advice is don't think of it as a zero sum, win / lose game. You will have a great time in SP & RJ regardless of which town you wind up preferring at the end of your trip, and since this is your 1st visit to Brazil, I strongly recommend that you explore both towns, experience what each place has to offer and decide later which place suits your style more.
Now with that said, let me jump into this very controversial issue of which city is more fun:
A year ago, I was in the exact same position as you are now and about to make my 1st trip to Brazil. So I divided my time 55/45 between SP to RJ and I had a great time in both cities. They are very different, but the one thing they have in common is Brazilian girls and they are superb. On my 2nd trip in October I divided my time 65/35 between SP and RJ. See where this is going? KKK. It turned out that I personally preferred the clinicas and boates over the termas and the beach. But that is just me. Anyway trip #3 is coming up this April and I am going to spend 6 weeks in SP (full immersion), and only 1 week in RJ (I couldn't not spend some time in RJ), and I will see how it goes.
A few comments come to mind:
1. Scanadallo lives up to the hype. It is an amazing bordello and one of the best in the world. I am a believer. But don't forget about the other boates like Bomboa. They are a lot of fun too.
2. The termas are also great, but not as great. LOL. 4 x 4 gets pretty wild and it is very colorful, so you have to go, but Solarium has more girls with the kind of looks and bodies that are more to my personal liking. But both of these termas are a must when you visit RJ..[/QUOTE]Can someone help explain the difference between a clinica, boate, terma, an prives? I always read this forum an the Rio forum an always get thrown off.
I'm from LOS Angeles an make random trips to Hong Kong in Tijuana. Which one of those 4 club types most closely resembles Hong Kong? An I'm not sure I'd even have a preference, I just want to have the ability to scout the talent an pick whichever suits my needs.
I'm trying to plan a trip this May, an trying to map all this out.
Thanks!
Landed at 0525 Thursday morning. Getting out of London was no issue, provided negative test and completed Anvisa health declaration online form and aboard we go. Uber pick up point is outside the terminal, ignore the ones 'offering' you an Uber and make your booking. Driver shows up promptly and are $65 to Ibis on Avenida Paulista. I considered Renaissance as per previous recommendations but having used IBIS in Bogota I'm comfortable with it for it's guest access. Arrived Hotel at 0730 and no amount of negotiating would get an early check in so looked for a breakfast spot. We settled on Bella Paulista (24 hours), had a nice buffet, coffee and ran up are $80 between us, an absolute steal.
After stalling in there for 90 minutes we got an Uber to Prime Clinicia. Google said it opened at 10 am, it does not. We arrived 1025 and only Anna was there. She's the only one who speaks English. Said we can keep her company outside while we wait. Nice girl, Ruvia. Called my buddy a dick for saying he's only in São Paulo for the sex, which he is. I wanted to smash as I've never had a redhead before and she looked real good dressed up, sexy red dress. BUT, after pulling a joke about my favourite colour being blue she gave some attitude. I still wanted to smash and get info from her (information is a great currency as we all know by being on this forum) but by 11 her appointments were full to 2 pm. Locals must like her service and the use WhatsApp and the landline to book girls. Useful to note is that she said Prime only really picks up with 12+ girls around 2 pm as most of them are at boate's and clubs at night and wake up late. I booked with Anna for 4 pm and we headed to Enjoy.
5 minute Uber around the corner to Enjoy, 4 girls already there and 3 guys in reception. My buddy likes some meat on them so jumps on Glacya (I think her name is) and I go with Stella, thin mulatta type with braces but right up my type chart. She's bubbly and high energy, which I consider a good sign for the session. By that time it's been 24 hours since I left home so I need a shower, spend a good 5 minutes in there before we start. Stella has a significant caesarean scar and breastfeeding wear and tear but I won't hold that against a woman. When we start, she gives a really good BJ followed by 69. I then put her in D4 and let loose my western world frustrations. She makes the right amount of noise for my taste, not fake and not excessive, just right. I'm tired as a whole so we move to massage. It sucks. I lay her down and show her what to do (I dated a Portuguese lady once who did it as her job, not sure why I let her go cause now I've hit 40 I need that in my life), which gets her real moist and me hard again so while she's laying on her stomach I slide it in from behind with her legs still together and start pounding. She gives good pushback as well. Really good session, fun girl. She asked what I was doing that night, and if I wanted to hang but I was spent and had an advance booking. Are $250 for an hour.
As I head down Amanda is doing a presentation for another guy, and boy I wish I'd waited. Now that is a woman who ID throw my wallet at. The other guy obviously takes her but I check with the receptionist and she's in tomorrow. Luckily my boy got Glacya's number. He asks her about Amanda while we head to Tabacaria National. While smoking Donna Flor and Alonso Menendez robusto's and drinking rum Glacya and Amanda agree with him are $800 for pernoite. Note, if you like cigars I's recommend Tabacaria national. It's near the clinicia's, Iago speaks English and service is great. He says they also do a grill around 9 pm for punters. We stash up some puro's, and around 3:30 head back to Prime.
Prime now has 13 girls. Good lineup for my tastes but the girls are all pequana. Some a little too much, but a solid lineup. A Forista sat next to us speaks English and we have a quick chat. He never goes clubs, just samples clinicia girls and arranges pernoite. Are $200 per hour at first then when the relationship is built, he's gets discounts. I like the method as the clinicia girls are my speed but 4 days is not enough time to really get this in motion. I go to the receptionist to call Anna and she has extended her session with her current client, as is her prerogative. She really must have not liked my joke about her dress. Jade (pronounced Jaj) has caught my eye so I'm not disappointed for long. The local forista looks at me as I go up and says I won't regret it. I don't know if it was fortune or if he secretly works there but useful encounter none the less. Jaj is amazing! Tall, smooth, Middle Eastern features, furious energy. Had to ask her to slow down a couple times. BJ real slobbery, massage was better, she enjoyed my hands on / in her and the D4 was heavenly. She's clearly has kids form the feel of the P but that body was divine. I have no regrets and have her number but unlikely I'll have time to schedule anything. My buddy waited for me as he likes his girls thick and they were ALL super slim at Prime. Are $230 for the hour.
We head back to the hotel to check in. I've now had 4 showers in 5 hours so quite fresh and I've got Kira coming over. Found her on SPLove before it stopped letting me access it. Everything about her is my type and we've been talking for weeks before I arrived. Note, most Brazilians seem to prefer spontaneous contact. Call or message and get booking. One even told me to wait till I'm on ground and we can talk then. We have agreed are $550 for the hour, not cost efficient and I was worried about how a lot of new GP's pay for professional pics, advertise on MClass or ClubModel and ask for are $500 with only so so service (see GPGUIA reviews) but Kira's reviews were good and again, she is my perfect type. All I can say is, money well spent. She arrives on time, which is impressive enough, stays for closer to 2 hours, and is damn good at what she does. She made me dance (no small feat), sang a little, drank some beer, let me rub all over her with Ayurveda massage oil, then did the same to me. Fantastic BJ, 69, titwank. I basically kissed every part of her body. She finally got on top, rode me like I was a racehorse then I took over positions before we finished in missionary. I'm literally ready to head home it was so good. We will meet again in two days. Dinner then another 2 hours at the hotel and I can't wait.
Went to dinner at Fogo de Chao Jardins after and ate myself into a meat coma. Such good cuts! After 3 caipirinhas I was pretty much flat. My buddy had arranged a Photo girl, thick, as is his preference to come over for are $500 pernoite. I thought it was too good to be true and warned him as such. We ubered back to hotel, as I was on my last legs and with a bad knee. We waited in reception for his girl. She was actually nice. He had video called her earlier and was pleased and the reality matched up so up they went straight to the room. I had another caipirinha and then headed to bed. I've woken up to him sending pics of her in different positions at 3 am so he clearly had a good time. He's a force of nature that one.
Overall, really good day. Despite it being the big city it was all at a speed that I liked and the two clinicias are definitely worth a visit. One of my pre-arranged Photo girls had disappeared (blessing in disguise most likely) and another only responded to my messages at 4 pm while I was in Moema so we will try to reschedule for today. Will try either Kin or Indy Spa today. Glacya and Amanda are booked for tonight. My buddy negotiated them down to are $700 for the pernoite and they agreed. Glacya literally wrote, "You know you have a good deal right?" I chuckled. Ate Manha.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2661263]Rovnak has posted some great advice for finding Brazilian escorts circa 2019. He and I had some discussions on this very topic here on the Sao Paulo forum.
I have always strongly advised against this idea that you could just shop for escorts looking for the best on-line photos. This is true anywhere in the world.[/QUOTE]I cut and pasted those posts from Rovnak and saved them in my notes folder while planning this trip. Not seen him post for a while, but his contributions were much appreciated. I think I made the mistake a lot of 1st timers to SP make and that's to plan too much. I treated Photofakes and Private55 as sure things where as actually, once you get a presentation in a clinicia you are not thinking about Cleo from Santo Amaro anymore.
I have not even need to a club yet but have the feeling there is a LOT more yet to come from SP. Lucky I have to come back later this year.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2661843]I think Rio is more similar to BKK than SP does.[/QUOTE]I was only comparing the relationship between BKK & Pat to the relationship between SP & RJ. The big city, financial hub to the essentially resort beach town. Actually if I were to compare SP to any place I would compare the Moema Clinica daytime action to Singapore's Geylang Casas and the Boate nightlife experience to the Jakarta lounge / bordello scene found in clubs like Malio / Malioboro and the former Alexis Hotel. There are dissimilarities too, obviously.
RJ, on the other hand is pretty unique. I don't know of any place quite like it. Pattaya and RJ are on 2 different levels.
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2661347]Hi mongers,
Expect my detail report coming soon, but I will be ion cafe-photo today (Wednesday) night and to Scandello (Thursday) night. Respond to this message is someone want to hangout and we can arrange a dress code. This is going to be my second visit to Scandello.
Cheers. L.[/QUOTE]How was cafe photo?
I heard the club is very nice though the few local reports on the girls were not encouraging. It has been on my list to visit but not have not had the chance to yet since other boate have taken priorities.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Spineda;2661858]Can someone help explain the difference between a clinica, boate, terma, an prives? [/QUOTE]If you read the forum trip reports carefully you will find the answer to your question. But here is a quick cliff notes summary:
Clinicas. Basically the same thing as a BKK oily massage parlor. Customer walks in, is shown the available girls, picks one, and goes upstairs. 240 br all inclusive price for room and 60 minutes of sex. Clinicas offer the best bang for your buck. RTFF for more info.
Prives. RJ's version of Clinicas ie oily massage parlors except Prives are mostly located in downtown RJ office buildings. I prefer Clinicas. RTFF for more.
Termas. Are bars with in-house girls available for sex upstairs. Total bill includes entry fee, the girl (if one is chosen, drinks if purchased, and the room). The customer pays his bill before leaving. They are great. RTFF.
Boates. Are a combination bar, lounge, nightclub, restaurant, and bordello. The girls, however, are independent contractors. Customers are billed for the entry fee and bar tab. Sexual Arrangements are made separately with individual girls, so prices may vary. Nice rooms are available in-house or you can leave with your girl for some other place for the same fee. Boates are my favorite venue because they have the best selection and the largest number of girls, but they are the most expensive alternative in SP. RTFF trip reports.
Omicron.
You met the infamous Hannah redhead at Prime. She is one of the better English speakers in all the clinicas. She is hot but a little thicker than I like and has silicone. Her schedule is booked full usually days in advance and she is rarely in any presentations. I try to do a session with her every visit to SP also. Though her sessions are great, she can get tired and less energy later in the day. Once I tried to book her a week ahead and she was fully booked by her regulars. That is like 10 sessions in a day. She mentioned to me previously she likes it when she knows all the guys already and gets nervous with new guys. She probably didn't know who you were and was more comfortable extending the last session. Unfortunately she only works in the CLínica and doesn't share her numbers nor do outcalls. She has an outside life that she wants to keep separate.
[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2661926]I cut and pasted those posts from Rovnak and saved them in my notes folder while planning this trip. Not seen him post for a while, but his contributions were much appreciated. I think I made the mistake a lot of 1st timers to SP make and that's to plan too much. I treated Photofakes and Private55 as sure things where as actually, once you get a presentation in a clinicia you are not thinking about Cleo from Santo Amaro anymore.
I have not even need to a club yet but have the feeling there is a LOT more yet to come from SP. Lucky I have to come back later this year.[/QUOTE]Planning is a good thing. Everyone has different styles and venues they dig. Of course, one could just go to Scandallo every night and be assured of hooking up with a hot Brasileira who will perform at a high standard compared to the rest of the globe.
You wouldn't be the first one thrown off by the Brazilian eye candy sites. Many members have had some decent luck with just point & click searches on these sites, but eventually their luck runs out.
You have also seen the clinicas can have varied talent. Most of the clinicas here are from fairly affluent areas of Sao Paulo. I assure you there are some pretty nasty clinicas around the city.
Rovnak's floating around. I speak with him by way of PM occasionally.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2661996]RJ, on the other hand is pretty unique. I don't know of any place quite like it. Pattaya and RJ are on 2 different levels.[/QUOTE]Oh for sure. Metro Rio de Janeiro has over 13 million people. Even ignoring talent that migrates to Rio, there is a lot of homegrown talent.
Even Brazilians will have differing views on the cultural importance of Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo. Rio was the capital of Brazil until 1960. Unfortunately, much of Rio's colonial past has been knocked down by newer development. I think RJ-SP debates are somewhat analogous to LOS Angeles-New York debates.
One last point about Rio's tourism dynamic. You will find some attractive and unattached female tourists in the Rio beach areas if you want to try out your game. Do unattached female tourists really go to Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Spineda;2661858]Can someone help explain the difference between a clinica, boate, terma, an prives? I always read this forum an the Rio forum an always get thrown off.
I'm from LOS Angeles an make random trips to Hong Kong in Tijuana. Which one of those 4 club types most closely resembles Hong Kong? An I'm not sure I'd even have a preference, I just want to have the ability to scout the talent an pick whichever suits my needs.
I'm trying to plan a trip this May, an trying to map all this out.
Thanks![/QUOTE]The one that comes close to HK in size and selection will be Scandallo except the girls are dressed formally. It is more luxurious and provide the service you would expect from a high end place. HK is at the low end for service and facility.
For mongering purpose and not considering the sauna, termas and boates are similar but boates usually have much larger club area.
Clinicas are like massage places but don't provide massage, it depends on you and the girl you choose. They usually have better facility, a waiting area, room with shower, the shortest time you get is 30 minutes for about 120 and up.
I don't know exactly what is a prive because there are many other venues. Based on my observation, prives are cheaper in general and offer service starting from 15 minutes or 20 minutes for around 50 more or less. The facilities usually are not very good. I guess a distinction one can make is clinicas always provide clean bed sheet while prives normally don't.
There are many variations that are not easy to describe but that should give you a general idea.
All prices are in BRL.
Great 1st day report OG (Omicron Gamma) !!
Any web link to Kira on SPLOVE?
[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2661924]
As I head down Amanda is doing a presentation for another guy, and boy I wish I'd waited. Now that is a woman who ID throw my wallet at. The other guy obviously takes her but I check with the receptionist and she's in tomorrow. Luckily my boy got Glacya's number. He asks her about Amanda while we head to Tabacaria National. While smoking Donna Flor and Alonso Menendez robusto's and drinking rum Glacya and Amanda agree with him are $800 for pernoite. Note, if you like cigars I's recommend Tabacaria national. It's near the clinicia's, Iago speaks English and service is great. He says they also do a grill around 9 pm for punters. We stash up some puro's, and around 3:30 head back to Prime. [/QUOTE]Great report, thanks for writing!
I saw Amanda during my last 2 trips. I got her number too and was supposed to schedule a pernoite but there was always another girl I wanted to bang and never got around to it. I wish I would've tried to see her more and ask for BBFS, I think she could've agreed. I'm not sure if she changed her number, but the one I have on file hasn't been active on WhatsApp for awhile. Let us know how it goes with your friend! Have fun!
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2662146]Great 1st day report OG (Omicron Gamma) !!
Any web link to Kira on SPLOVE?[/QUOTE]Here is the SPLove link.
[URL]https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/kira/[/URL]
It hasn't worked for me for weeks so here is the GPGuia link.
[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=232296&sid=fdac42c682cd5966adcdda9c28e92d36[/URL]
Enjoy!
Not a bad day but nowhere near as good as day one. Started the day with coffee at Bella Paulista before heading to my dentist appointment. Unfortunately my teeth were worse than I thought so the appointment took 2 1/2 hours and finished at 12:30. I was still in local anaesthetic so headed to Skye and had cocktails with my buddy. We needed to do some shopping and also wanted cigars so instead of Clinicia Kin we headed to Avenida Paulista and then Tabacaria Roma. Tabacaria Roma is more expensive than Tabacaria National but that is not surprising due to the location. There is an English speaking maestro there. My buddy reached out to confirm with Glacya and Amanda but Amanda had cancelled due to another forista offering her more than are $700 per noite. I'm pissed but I have long learned to not sweat over what I cannot control. Glacya is a gem.
And is sending me pics of other girls to bring along at the same rate but none are lighting my fire and I don't feel the need to force it. What I didn't know at the time was that this occurrence was a harbinger for the rest of my day.
I immediately messaged Paulinha, a GP from photo I had vetted before arriving and she agreed to come at 6 pm. Price magically now are $300.it's 4 pm and my mouth / face is only now feeling normal and I've not nutted yet so I don't argue. After a nice Donna Flor robusta and the happy hour at Camarada Camarao I head back to the hotel, stock up on drinks and wait for Paulinha. She is as per the pics, a Kiara Cole lookalike, super slim and blonde. The messaging was cool but in person it is strictly business. No oral without (I should have read the advert more carefully) and no pushback to my thrusts. It wasn't bad, was just business. It's a shame cause I loved her look; half model and half gamer chic but it's the game we play.
By now it's 7 pm and I have nothing left, so I say my goodbyes and am asleep within minutes! I often get a bit of travel sickness so nothing new but I was desperate for sleep. Woke up at 10 pm, feeling much better. My buddy is with Glacya at Bar Athena and having a great time. Nice girl, not for me, but perfect for him. When I get to the bar he is inviting her to Rio with us. This guy has a horseshoe up his ass cause it was the same in Bogota. First girl he meets gives him GFE, discounts and looks pretty damn good! We eat, drink, take shots and as fun as it is, I'm the third wheel and I hate a cockblocker so I make my excuses to head to Casarao down the same street. He insists on coming so I get Glacya to help me get girls. I didn't know then what I know now.
Get to Casarao, and it's 60/40 girls to guys. There is someone for everyone here. I'm more of a slow mover, scoping the scene and then making my move. My buddy is a flood of life energy. He is calling over every girl he wants to smash and introducing her to me. I'm trying to make him fall back but he's wasted. Even Glacya is now worried he will ditch her for another girl (he will, but not till tomorrow) and is not smiling anymore. I get her to talk, apply the bro code and get her to chill. I see a Japa and move in but she gives me a bullcrap excuse about needing to talk to a friend. I hope it's not my skin shade, could easily be my size but it is what it is. My buddy brings me a Carioca mulatta that isn't my speed but I'm polite. He buys her a drink and she sits on my lap. I know I need to shut it down as I have no interest so I make my excuses. Also, she has unshaven legs, and that's an auto fail in my book. I see another Japa that is my fantasy come true. Then my buddy tries to take over, convinced he can get her for free! At this point. I'm literally breathing fire! She of course, walks off when his best offer is are $700 for the night! The girl knows how fine she is. And me and him talk some home truths after! We cool, but he needs to fall back a bit.
I go to walk around the club and I see a Zendaya looking babe and a super fine Branca. I had a choice, and I made the wrong one! I followed Zendaya (Rebecca) down and sat next to her. We talk, then agreed on are $600 for 3 hours (I knew I didn't have a full session in me) so this seemed right. She pushes me to her place and tbh, I should have seen the red flag! I insist on the hotel and In total it's are $700 including takeout. Glacya talks to her, assures me she is fun, we laugh in the Uber and all head to my room for drinks. When my buddy and Glacya leave to go smash she drops the okie doke! She does not feel comfortable, she is scared, etc, etc.
I've seen this one before in Kech but I'm also aware that me and my buddy are bringing girls in regularly and don't want to cockblock him by risking a scene so offer her are $50 for an Uber to leave. She counters with are $250 for the 30 minutes. I don't even hold back the laughter and tell her to call the police. She then says I should call her an Uber and give her are $100. She's got neck, I'll give her that!
I tell her to leave, give her the are $50 and shake my head. I'm down are $150 but it could be me worse and These are the risks we take in the game we play. I'm sightseeing with my academic friend tomorrow and he does not partake in the hobby so it may be that we only do Scandello or Casarao again at night, but it's all good. 'Unfortunately' for me, my dental treatment requires two more trips to SP this year. There will be more good days than bad.
OG.
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2662160]Great report, thanks for writing!
I saw Amanda during my last 2 trips. I got her number too and was supposed to schedule a pernoite but there was always another girl I wanted to bang and never got around to it. I wish I would've tried to see her more and ask for BBFS, I think she could've agreed. I'm not sure if she changed her number, but the one I have on file hasn't been active on WhatsApp for awhile. Let us know how it goes with your friend! Have fun![/QUOTE]I've lurked in this forum since 2015 and gained a lot do I'm happy to give back anything useful. Amanda took a higher offer from another punter and as I didn't have her number I couldn't counter offer. I'll hopefully get to make it right, if not this trip then the next!
Day 3 Report.
After the nonsense of the night before I was looking forward to seeing my local friend. My buddy was still with Glacya and having a time of it so I left him to it. While I went to independence park and the municipal market, he was sleeping and shagging on repeat. Glacya eventually left around 1 pm and he paid her 800 including a tip. His eyes were clear so no more talk of marriage and her coming to Rio. But that's what the Brazilian bunda can do to you.
My local friend lives near guarulhos, so we headed there for a late lunch. A restaurant named Comodoro. It was amazing, hundreds of locals including many club worthy girls watching the world club cup and great food buffet style. 3 drinks and food ran me 100. There is life outside the big city and it's amazing!
As much as it was good to see an old friend, I hadn't had some P for close to 24 hours so made my excuses, called my buddy and we met at Tangara Spa, around 3:30. Ok lineup, not great. Loads of locals and girls milling about. Quinn (pequana mulatta, beautiful face, probably does drugs but is so pretty naturally that she still caught my eye) was the only one I was feeling but I was intentionally trying to find something different. We decided to leave and Quinn calls out to me as I do. Luckily, fate was about to bless me in abundance.
We decide to go to Clinicia Indy but Uber says we have a 9 minute wait. 5 minutes later Quinn comes out to buy food at the taverna across the street. I run over, buy her stuff for her (10 Reis), and get her number. Indy has 12 guys about and only 3 in presentation. Only 1 doable. Saturday must be GP rush hour as well as feijoada day! Not impressed we head back to Athena restaurant to eat. By the time we get there I've agreed with Quinn to meet at 11:30 pm, 500 for 3 hours.
After food we head back to hotel, I sleep 7 - 10 pm then freshen up. Confirm with Quinn, then go buy drinks and treats. She's been at the clinic for a whole day and it was hot as hell today so best to play the art of seduction then a ground and pound. She arrives late as is typical, 12:45. I give her a drink, some chocolate and let her take off her shoes. She is bubbly and flirty so I figure getting TLN isn't an issue and my buddy wants to go back to Casarao. She agrees to come help him find a good one. Miniso sells good fragrances for peanuts so I sprayed her with one, and gave to her. A long DFK follows. As soon as we get outside she lights up a joint. I want to join, but I also need my job. It smelt like some good stuff. This girl is party ready!
Casarao is 60/40 men tonight but the selection is no less excellent. I see the idiot from last night but I'm having too much fun to give a damn. Me.
And Quinn set up by the bar while my buddy goes on patrol. Quinn goes to smoke, brings a 'friend' back, I get her number. She does this again, and before I ask she has WhatsApp'd me the other girls number, Laura. The dupla crossed my mind. My buddy eventually settles on a spinner, Julia, that well, I wouldn't. We have VERY different taste! They agree 600 plus 100 exit fee. She then insists on money upfront! Hell no. She storms off and when next I see her he is holding back tears. Quinn meanwhile has just ordered her 4th drink! I take her card and give her a factory reset. I decide to head back and start the action as I'm not sure how long my buddy will be and it's now 3:30. As we leave Julia is sticking her tongue down some old geezers throat; business is business. Total damage, 300.
Me and Quinn get shawarma's across from the club, and head back. She immediately strips, we eat and get to it. I make her hold a BJ for 10 minutes then move to 69 then reverse cowgirl then D4. I know she's tired but she's a trooper and can really twerk on the the. All throughout I'm taking every chance to smother her in the massage oil. I finish hard and we drop. Sleep incoming. She asks if it's ok to stay even though 3 hours are up. I couldn't possibly say no. Haha. I then hear my door at 5 am, my buddy has come back with Julia. An English speaker had helped him negotiate 50% upfront and she came back. He needs condoms (and she's happily waving at me. I go back and wake up Quinn for round two then pass out.
Next morning I awake at 7 for round 3. Rubbing her back she lifts her to top leg forward and I slide the tip in from behind before she jumps up and says camisinha. So close. Haha. We have one more round around 11 and she leaves at midday. I had fun so drop her 600,850 total including her drinking like a sailor. The girls is 25, so very naturally beautiful and a very fun time. 1 more day then Rio incoming.
OG.
I'll be in SP for about a week. A lot of info here. Is there a map of the clinicas or a guide to what is convenient around Ave Paulista? Bit overwhelming here.
Like I see the gparena page but how do I know if a place is near where we are at without searching each one individually?
Like if anyone could just recommend a few prives/clinicas anywhere between Centro and pinhieros that'd be much appreciated. Ideally a spot we can see a lineup a have a quick easy in and out
[QUOTE=HumanBeing1;2662873]I'll be in SP for about a week. A lot of info here. Is there a map of the clinicas or a guide to what is convenient around Ave Paulista? Bit overwhelming here.
Like I see the gparena page but how do I know if a place is near where we are at without searching each one individually?
Like if anyone could just recommend a few prives/clinicas anywhere between Centro and pinhieros that'd be much appreciated. Ideally a spot we can see a lineup a have a quick easy in and out[/QUOTE]For SP, I think you need to check GPGuia. I just looked, you only need to check the city of the listing of the first page, probably the top 10 entries. Abbbora is on the second page.
A few things about Julia from Casarao I forgot to mention in yesterday's report. 1. She squirts. 2. She says she is 27 but to me looked closer to 37.3. She was really annoying my buddy for tips before she left but by the end of Day 4 was basically insisting on coming back for TLN at the same price, 600.
We were both wrecked today so it's good we spent the day with my local friend at his place. He laid out a great spread, we drank caipirinhas, and had a good time talking on his balcony. We then toured Liberdade and areas around the city. São Paulo is truly fascinating, with astounding wealth and poverty almost seamlessly intertwined.
Me and my buddy both decided to take it easy today, and I had already decided to repeat with Kira. She studies and aspires to be a singer so her phone can be off for extended periods but she always came through. He was trying to decide between Glacya or Julia. He went with Glacya in the end.
Kira has a car and picks me up around 7:30 for dinner. She chooses the sushi bar in The Renaissance hotel, by coincidence she claims. She offers to leave shortly after we sit as it's "muito chique" but I'm cool. And I wanted to scope the talent that is known to lie in wait at the reception bar. We talk as best we can over Google translate (we have a lot in common in terms of life views and ethics), I watch the first half of the game (Falcons fan so don't judge me) and she eats. I'm still full from lunch so have tea. She actually cancels food to not over eat so that's a good sign. Really quality sushi as you'the expect, 200 in total. I see two GP's in the reception, a fine Branca in a turquoise dress talking to a monger (not sure if he is ISG) and a blonde 'mature' one in jeans, seemingly well worn. Kira is surprised to find out GP's work in the Renaissance. If she starts hanging out there you are all welcome.
We head back to hotel and by now she's burping out loud and giggling like a schoolgirl, so I know I'm in for a good time. We shower together; she loved this foaming bath gel I have (As did Quinn who took an almost 12 minute shower yesterday!) and afterward jumps on the bed and asks if I will massage her now? I'm wondering who is paying who but this girl is perfection to me so I get to work. By the time I'm done I'm exhausted as I'm in terrible shape already but she takes over and the rest is the stuff of my dreams, especially her getting on top to ride, squatting then twerking on the the.
We finish, shower again and she leaves around 10:30 pm. She gives me her real name and number and if all goes to plan we agree to meet again in August. 500 very well spent reis.
I go meet my buddy and Glacya in UP bar for a few drinks before bed. She asks why I don't like her when she likes me so much? I can be a mix of laid back and serious in public which can come off as offish so I get this a lot but I ain't trying to deal with all that. I make my excuses and head back to the hotel for a good sleep. I'm writing this over coffee before heading to the airport and they are still upstairs at it. He paid her 500. Viva São Paulo!
OG.
Good Stuff Omicron G. I like your writing style and I am enjoying the read. It looks like you are having a great time. I sure you will enjoy RJ as well. I have 2 months left before I embark on my Brazil trip #3. I have my favorite girls lined up for reunions over my 1st weekend back. After that I will be on the hunt looking for new. I can't wait.
I've passed my past 2 outings at Casarao. I had 2 girls on both visits for 200 and 250 Reais each.
At those rates, no way I'll pulling out of Scandallo anymore.
Scandallo is more glamorous. And they have more and arguably better looking girls. But the difference is so slight it's miniscule.
I'll just visit Scandallo from time to time for the ambience and all the eye candy. But the rates usually kill my boner.
I personally think there's an inverse correlation between good sex and high rates.
Which brings me to the issue at hand. While at Casarao earlier today, I noticed a bar called Balneario American Bar right next to it.
There were hot girls outside and inside the entrance. And the staff outside were inviting me to go in.
Anyone has any experience with this or any other such bar near Casarao?
First off, I had a great time. I was reluctant to come at first as I love the laid back vibes of Rio and São Paulo just 'feels' harder to penetrate. All I can say it's been totally worth it. For a newbie, Moema seems good. Prime, 57 and Enjoy are all close by, lots of online options, great local restaurants including a Fogo de Chao and if it's your speed, Tabacaria National for a good charuto.
It's been said countless times but learning a bit of Portuguese helps greatly. SP, and the other parts of Brazil I've been to are full of moments. A glance, a smile or even a chance interaction. But without Portuguese you miss so much. I only know about 100 words but telling a girl she is beautiful, asking what she likes or clarifying what you want (goes a long way in the trade we ply. I stopped practicing in 2016 but I can find my 15 mins a day on Duolingo in advance of my next trip.
I can't speak for everyone but ATM's gave us hell here withdrawing cash. And cash is king in Brazil. Only Banco 24 Hora ATM's were reliable for gettting money out and luckily we found one round the corner from the hotel. Getting around with Uber is a cinch but there is lots of big city traffic. My local friend mainly takes the train. Either way, getting to where you need to be to do what you want to do should be no problem. One of my Uber Drivers spoke English and I've got his number for next time. We are definitely going to hang!
You can really play the game your way here. I never made it to Scandallo but the high value placed on it by senior members is for a reason. Casarao was amazing and was more than enough for me and my buddy, despite the con-artist I picked up. I do wish I'the tried Bomboa. I was also perfectly happy with the clinicia and home visit combo. Online is hit and miss. YMMV.
If money is a concern (it would have been for me last year before a recent promotion) then go Rio. The hairy legged Carioca from Casarao explained that she left Rio cause she will make more money here in SP. And local forista's complain a lot about the rising prices on GPGUIA. It's better for your budget to pay are $150 at Bel Prazer or are $170 at Massagem Tijuca than are $250 at Enjoy here in SP. Sessioning in clubs is also cheaper in Rio. I've met some guys here who only go to 4 x4 and then do 30 minutes, night after night. I also been able to get a Terma girl back for TLN for 500. Of course at the high end (Barra VIP's for example), your going to spend. But I know that money was an issue for me for a long time so. There you go.
Last thing for me is the women themselves. While beauty is everywhere, it takes time to unlock true GFE. The drinks, chocolate, perfume, massage or luxury shower gel is all part of my 'Be nice to the ladies' mantra. Brazilian women get a lot of shit from the country and their men so they don't need it from Gringo's too. Don't be surprised if they are cool on you at the start. My buddy has a different, party hard approach which works for him but we were both really happy with our time here and finding girls on our level.
If I had the choice (which I do) I'the go Bogota before São Paulo in terms of cities but there is so much more of a variety of women (more beautiful on average IMHO) here that you can't but find something and have a good time. Enjoy.
OG.
[QUOTE=Messiah69;2663831]Which brings me to the issue at hand. While at Casarao earlier today, I noticed a bar called Balneario American Bar right next to it. There were hot girls outside and inside the entrance. And the staff outside were inviting me to go in. Anyone has any experience with this or any other such bar near Casarao?[/QUOTE]This joint is a little shit hole right next to Casarao. I never would have gone to it except for the fact that I arrived at Casarao before it had opened, so I decided to take a peek next door just to cool my heels and have a drink before going to Casarao when it opened. What transpired was my best anal session of the entire trip! Upon entry into the club, I was approached in short order by a cute, 25 year-old morena from Belem going by Camila. She was joined by her very aggressive friend who I was not attracted to. I made it clear that Camila was the one I liked, and the friend eventually left and latched onto another target (who she fucked). Turning my attention to Camila, I decided to session when she agreed to an hour long session with anal for only 200 reals! I was concerned over what the room would look like, but hey you only live once! This girl is cute, and she's going to let me fuck her in the butt for 200 reals! So we get down there and sure enough it's a really shitty room with a tiny, unkempt shower and a mat on a kind of raised bed (attached to wall) for doing the deed.
Well I decided not to give a damn! I was going to take that girl's dirty little butt hole in that dirty little room for cheap! Yes sir! The session started out great with a BBBJ, then 69, then more BBBJ followed by reverse cowgirl and standard cowgirl. We went into some doggy until Camila asked me sweetly if I was ready to enter her "culito" (asshole). You're damn straight I'm ready! I gently entered Camila's anus orifice before starting to give her a good hard butt fucking. She was on all fours, but I was ramming it into her ass so hard that she went face down and booty up! With that, I got up on my feet and squatted over Camila's upturned fanny and began to pound the daylights out of her ass whack, whack, whack, whack, whack against her butt cheeks! Now Camila began to cry out as I smashed her asshole in! I continued to ass pound until she went flat down onto her belly, still crying out. I kept going like a crazed butt fucker until finally I creamed Camila's cornhole and collapsed onto her back! The two of us got showered up, and then left the club together to go eat at a Japanese restaurant down the street. We exchanged e-mail addy's and phone numbers and agreed to meet again. Total damage was 200 reals plus a 10 reals entrada fee (good for 1 beer) and dinner for two at a modest restaurant (also paid her like 10 reals for a taxi back to the club). Was totally worth it to me, especially since I expected nothing from what was a little shit hole of a place!
I did get together with Camila one more time, the second time being at my hotel. I actually had gone back to Balneario with the plan to get "take-out". It didn't seem so dirty the second time around LOL! But still, it couldn't compare to my hotel. The management agreed to allow Camila to leave for some time at my hotel, and if I recall correctly, I paid a 150 reals take-out fee. Camila's charge for her time was 500 reals plus taxi. Back at my hotel, I concluded that she was decidedly less attractive in the full light of my room hahaha! But she still looked good enough for fucking, which we did 3 times, including using one of my super thin Sagami condoms from Japan. We both moaned and gasped at how good it felt and marveled at what was a bareback-like sexual feeling! We took some time for sleeping and eating too. That is, in between Camila going reverse cowgirl and licking and sucking on my nuts! Again, I regret not the cost and believe the time spent was worth every real. When you find a good one at a good price a monger has to go for it!
The Cane definitely had better luck than me. I also stopped by in during a visit to casarao. But ouch, it was empty with a few overweight old ladies. Luckily it was a very cheap entry that included a beer. It's not a clean place. Down the beer and left. No hassle. Definitely can spend a few minutes checking out this place and maybe you will be as lucky as Cane.
Regarding omicron G discussion on SP costs. The more well known clinicas in Moema like Prime, 57, and Enjoy are actually on the high end of cost of clinicas, around 250 r. There are clinicas that are cheaper like Indy and Moah which are 150 r for one hour. And quality and service of these girls are the same. There are also many prive in SP which are even cheaper.
Though I have not tried these so the average beauty and service is suppose to be much lower than the clinicas. But I am sure you find exceptions if you look hard enough. My limited understanding is that prive are in apartment building or taller building, while clinicas are in stand alone buildings.
Back in SP and I'm staying in my favorite Airbnb in Vila Olimpia. I arrived last Friday and decided to meet up with girls I met from Tinder first. I explored Tinder in Rio and basically getting the same results here in SP. None of the women I express interest in respond back but I still get a lot of messages from women who vary from 'no thanks' to 'good lord' . Sadly 80% of them that message are single mommas or divorce's with kids. I'm experimenting with Bumble and its the same but Bumble ladies are definitely looking for more serious than casual but I'm finding more women with no kids on Bumble than on tinder. I don't know why but I'm fascinated by the online dating game here.
Modern Momma is a great restaurant in Itaim Bibi to go for dates if you like that vibe. Lunch or dinner never fails there. Casaria in Jardins is great to. IMHO they are good places to set the mood before going back to your place. I consider these restaurants wingmen LOL.
Lotus - 20 minute walk from my Airbnb. Never been before and I tried Izzy after selecting her from the tablet. As soon as she walks in she squats down and starts the BJ. A very sexual woman who aims to please. She kept the BJ going for a long time.
Palms- 10 minute walk from my Airbnb. Really facilites and I went with Arizona. Similar to Lotus where you select from a tablet. She told me that they have to dispose of the condoms carefully and that sex there is technically not legal? I'm not sure 100% (nothing seemed seedy or secret about the place) and I did not press further but we did exchange WhatsApp. After we finished I watched her wash it out an wrap it up for discreet disposal.
Clinica Miruna. We live in a very small fucking world. I arrive and sitting with the receptionist is a girl I've been chatting up on Tinder. I noticed her right away but it took her a few seconds to notice me. I didn't bother with the line up. We had to shower together for her to feel comfortable. Well that was my strategy anyway. I don't recall us speaking about her work om Tinder so it did not matter to me but she was a little embarrassed it seemed. Ill def repeat with her but only at Miruna.
Plan on returning to Scandallo and trying Casarao and Bomboa for the first time.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2664062]Regarding omicron G discussion on SP costs. The more well known clinicas in Moema like Prime, 57, and Enjoy are actually on the high end of cost of clinicas, around 250 r. There are clinicas that are cheaper like Indy and Moah which are 150 r for one hour. And quality and service of these girls are the same. There are also many prive in SP which are even cheaper.
Though I have not tried these so the average beauty and service is suppose to be much lower than the clinicas. But I am sure you find exceptions if you look hard enough. My limited understanding is that prive are in apartment building or taller building, while clinicas are in stand alone buildings.[/QUOTE]Just a heads-up for everyone, 57 has a special for us board guys. Our rate is 150. And the quality and scene there is top-notch. The host is very friendly and she speaks English for those that aren't Portuguese fluent.
Alameda dos Aics, 1293 - Moema, So Paulo.
[QUOTE=Internash1;2664120]Just a heads-up for everyone, 57 has a special for us board guys. Our rate is 150. And the quality and scene there is top-notch. The host is very friendly and she speaks English for those that aren't Portuguese fluent.
Alameda dos Aics, 1293 - Moema, So Paulo.[/QUOTE]I've never tried 57. Do I understand correctly that it's not really a Clinica but more like a bar / Boate but with daytime hours? I think I would like that. Can you clarify with firsthand knowledge? And oh how do you get the discount. Just mention ISG? Or were u just kidding?
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2664133]I've never tried 57. Do I understand correctly that it's not really a Clinica but more like a bar / Boate but with daytime hours? I think I would like that. Can you clarify with firsthand knowledge? And oh how do you get the discount. Just mention ISG? Or were u just kidding?[/QUOTE]It's a Clinica with a boate / bar and works like a clinica before 8 PM or around that time. The girls sit inside boate during daytime. You can have a lineup or just talk to the girls in the boate. After 8 PM, it worls like a boate.
Hey team,
Where does someone get bud for recreational use only. I do like the hookah spots in Moema. But no bud places.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2664133]I've never tried 57. Do I understand correctly that it's not really a Clinica but more like a bar / Boate but with daytime hours? I think I would like that. Can you clarify with firsthand knowledge? And oh how do you get the discount. Just mention ISG? Or were u just kidding?[/QUOTE]If we're talking Chanes 57, I went to it once a few years ago. It didn't work for me. Here's the report that I did (of course things may have changed since then regarding optics):
Chanes 57.
Whenever I visit Brazil, I always like to mix in something new with the tried and true. That's why I had to try out Chanes 57 Bar and Nightclub in Sampa. I had heard a lot about this place, especially shortly after it opened, but this was my first chance to stop by and have a look see for myself. I didn't expect much really. That had nothing to do with the place per se, but more with the fact that it was on a Monday night, which is typically a weak night for line-ups, I don't care where in the world you are. But Monday was where I was willing to put Chanes 57 in the rotation, making sure that I would be saving the proven best for last.
There was no entrance fee or consumo fee. When you arrive, the girl in reception will give you a slip that has all of the prices for the various types of drinks on it. You write your name on the top of that slip, then you take it and go upstairs to where the bar is. As you order drinks and food throughout the night, the bartender will note on the slip what you consumed over the evening. When you leave, you present the slip to the receptionist downstairs, she totals up your bill, and then you pay.
I got there around 8 pm on a Monday night, and stayed for about 2 1/2 hours. I would say that there could not have been more than 15 girls on hand tops, with most of them falling in the 5 to 6 range per my standards. Needless to say, since I need at least a 7 out of 10 on my optics scale in order to be enticed to part with my money for a fuck, I did not session with anybody. I did spend a considerable amount of time talking to a girl named "Kris" though. She was very nice and patient. We mostly communicated through Google translate on our smart phones. Bought her a couple of drinks. She pushed for a third, but I said no. Had several Cuba Libres for myself. Ordered an appetizer which we both shared. And then we parted ways. She asked if I wanted to go to the room, but I said no.
When it was all said and done, as I said I chose not to session with anybody, but spent about 275 reals for the evening on food and drink, not including my taxi fares to and from the club. Based on this one experience, I would not return to Chanes 57. The overall condition of the bar area was OK, but I cannot comment on the rooms as I did not go with anybody. And even though it was a Monday, I am doubtful that the line-up would be that much better later on in the week. You just get a "sense" of a place you know, and my sense is that Chanes 57 is not where you go to run up on a bunch of hotties. More like mostly 5's and 6's. There was one mulatta there who was a solid 7 on my scale (maybe higher on somebody else's), but that was it in terms of attractive girls as far as I am concerned. Glad I checked it out though, and now I know for myself about Chanes 57. No need to wonder!
Slow start, but I'm just beginning my friends!
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2664133]I've never tried 57. Do I understand correctly that it's not really a Clinica but more like a bar / Boate but with daytime hours? I think I would like that. Can you clarify with firsthand knowledge? And oh how do you get the discount. Just mention ISG? Or were u just kidding?[/QUOTE]There's a bar / lounge area and a separate area in the back with what looked like arcade games and more lounge area. All the rooms are on the 2nd floor, very clean with a private bathroom. When you first walk in the host is there at the front desk and asks if you would like to see the lineup or hang out at the bar, which I went to the bar and they served me this beer (one of the best beers I've ever had, I can't remember the name but it's got a blue foil around the top of the bottle. I have to go back there to find out. I can't seem to find it anywhere around Brazil so far, and I've been looking). Anyway, just mention to the host you're from the board and it'll be 150, you pay the tab when you're finished and leaving. They accept credit cards plus 20 more, I don't know if it will be 150 after 8 pm.
[QUOTE=The Cane;2664030] ...I was concerned over what the room would look like, but hey you only live once! This girl is cute, and she's going to let me fuck her in the butt for 200 reals! So we get down there and sure enough it's a really shitty room with a tiny, unkempt shower and a mat on a kind of raised bed (attached to wall) for doing the deed. ... [/QUOTE] So... even the great ones go slummin' at times...kkkk! Yep, a good pussy (or a-hole your case), goes a long way towards smoothing out a few "boom boom" room intolerances and prejudices.
Been there done that. Had quite a few "Camila's" of my own...kkkk! Good report!
[QUOTE=Internash1;2664255]... just mention to the host you're from the board and it'll be 150.[/QUOTE]Is that for 30 minutes?
[QUOTE=Nounce;2664297]Is that for 30 minutes?[/QUOTE]No not 30 minutes, it is for 1 hour. Not rushed at all. Pleasant surprise.
[QUOTE=Internash1;2664120]Just a heads-up for everyone, 57 has a special for us board guys. Our rate is 150. And the quality and scene there is top-notch. The host is very friendly and she speaks English for those that aren't Portuguese fluent.
Alameda dos Aics, 1293 - Moema, So Paulo.[/QUOTE]Wish I'd gone twice now. Did you try / manage to arrange a follow up with any of the girls?
[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2664361]Wish I'd gone twice now. Did you try / manage to arrange a follow up with any of the girls?[/QUOTE]No, I flew out to Belo Horizonte to check it out here. Big mistake coming out here:
[QUOTE=Internash1;2664314]No not 30 minutes, it is for 1 hour. Not rushed at all. Pleasant surprise.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I just checked gpguia. That is the new lower forista price. It appears they have lower their price for a while now. It's now cheaper than Tangra with much better facility.
[QUOTE=Internash1;2664467]No, I flew out to Belo Horizonte to check it out here. Big mistake coming out here:[/QUOTE]Why a big mistake? I'm asking because I just booked a side trip to Belo Horizonte. Not so much to monger, but to check the restaurants and to visit Ouro Preto.
[QUOTE=Internash1;2664467]No, I flew out to Belo Horizonte to check it out here. Big mistake coming out here:[/QUOTE]I think I'm with you. Other parts of Brazil I've been to don't have the ease of accessibility for the hobby like Rio / Sao Paulo. I remember some street walkers around Pelourinho / Porto the Barra when in Salvador but it wasn't until I found the right taxi driver that I saw the university girls around Rio Vermelho or the sheer number of GP's in bars like Passagem (if it's still there). The language barrier also increases when you are outside the big 2. Girls on SP tell me Minas and Campo Grande has super beautiful girls and I'm like. WHERE?
[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2664544]Girls on SP tell me Minas and Campo Grande has super beautiful girls and I'm like. WHERE?[/QUOTE]They're all working in SP, IMHO. LOL!
[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2664544]Girls on SP tell me Minas and Campo Grande has super beautiful girls and I'm like. WHERE?[/QUOTE]Belo Horizonte (Minas) definitely has beautiful girls. I just wouldn't go there to monger. You have to find the hot girls in the civilian clubs. If you are under 40-45 and have some game, it's fine if you are traveling through. Otherwise, most don't have the time when so many girls are readily available in Sao Paulo and Rio.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2648767]I was looking thru some sites and saw this fisting listing and remember this ask. No clue if it's real as that is not my thing but the listing is so particular and links to the girl personal website.
[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/lilianal-fisting-anal-e-vaginal-puta-anal-id-buytt[/URL]
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'll consider this listing!
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2664564]Belo Horizonte (Minas) definitely has beautiful girls. I just wouldn't go there to monger. You have to find the hot girls in the civilian clubs. If you are under 40-45 and have some game, it's fine if you are traveling through. Otherwise, most don't have the time when so many girls are readily available in Sao Paulo and Rio.[/QUOTE]Some of the hottest girls I fucked in Rio were from BH. Made me think about going there. Looks like I made the right decision not to.
That is Great News! Thank you for the info.
[QUOTE=Internash1;2664120]Just a heads-up for everyone, 57 has a special for us board guys. Our rate is 150. And the quality and scene there is top-notch. The host is very friendly and she speaks English for those that aren't Portuguese fluent.
Alameda dos Aics, 1293 - Moema, So Paulo.[/QUOTE]
I met several Beautiful girls from Belo Horizonte. In fact the three that I had spend time with me at my Hotel and one one knock out student that I sent a bus ticket to come spend another week end with me later was from there. Glad to know it is not worth traveling there because I had planned that. Thanks for the info.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2664564]Belo Horizonte (Minas) definitely has beautiful girls. I just wouldn't go there to monger. You have to find the hot girls in the civilian clubs. If you are under 40-45 and have some game, it's fine if you are traveling through. Otherwise, most don't have the time when so many girls are readily available in Sao Paulo and Rio.[/QUOTE]
Hello group!
Traveling to SP in April and wondering the best neighborhood to stay in with a combination of safety, good girl scene, good bar / night club scene, and good restaurants. I'd really appreciate some experienced input as I'm trying to book an Airbnb ASAP. Thank you.
[QUOTE=GoodTimes4444;2664693]Hello group!
Traveling to SP in April and wondering the best neighborhood to stay in with a combination of safety, good girl scene, good bar / night club scene, and good restaurants. I'd really appreciate some experienced input as I'm trying to book an Airbnb ASAP. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Most new comers to São Paulo often stay in moema or the jardins. Personally I like the lower Augusta in consolacao or republica near centro.
[QUOTE=GoodTimes4444;2664693]Hello group!
Traveling to SP in April and wondering the best neighborhood to stay in with a combination of safety, good girl scene, good bar / night club scene, and good restaurants. I'd really appreciate some experienced input as I'm trying to book an Airbnb ASAP. Thank you.[/QUOTE]I'd say Jardins. It's where I stay most of my SP visits.
[QUOTE=Brsvv;2665231]I'd say Jardins. It's where I stay most of my SP visits.[/QUOTE]IMHO, Jardim is the safest non-gated neighborhood in South America.
Stopped by 57 House Friends Club earlier this afternoon. Perhaps Saturday afternoon is not the best day or time to visit the clinicas. 9 girls working however only one was available. They do have a bar and tables inside where you can sit and wait. Asked about prices and if there is an ISG special, receptionist said 250. Ha ha.
[QUOTE=Internash1;2664255]There's a bar / lounge area and a separate area in the back with what looked like arcade games and more lounge area. All the rooms are on the 2nd floor, very clean with a private bathroom. When you first walk in the host is there at the front desk and asks if you would like to see the lineup or hang out at the bar, which I went to the bar and they served me this beer (one of the best beers I've ever had, I can't remember the name but it's got a blue foil around the top of the bottle. I have to go back there to find out. I can't seem to find it anywhere around Brazil so far, and I've been looking). Anyway, just mention to the host you're from the board and it'll be 150, you pay the tab when you're finished and leaving. They accept credit cards plus 20 more, I don't know if it will be 150 after 8 pm.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=UrbanCowboy22;2665343]Stopped by 57 House Friends Club earlier this afternoon. Perhaps Saturday afternoon is not the best day or time to visit the clinicas. 9 girls working however only one was available. They do have a bar and tables inside where you can sit and wait. Asked about prices and if there is an ISG special, receptionist said 250. Ha ha.[/QUOTE]There is a discount if you are a recognized poster on gp-guia. I think it is around 180 real for an hour for them.
Hello folks,
I am visiting SP for the first time in two weeks. I don't know Portuguese language at all. How big the language barrier is going to be with SP girls?
Thanks,
TIG.
How does March look like in SP? Never went there in March before. Mid March to be exact.
I'm back at home and I think I own you my report, because if I had this amazing experience is only thanks to this forum. I was planning to book an other hotel, than I moved to Renaissance.
It was raining and late when I arrived, the hall was completely empty, and the bar was not working due for some works. I saw two ladies outside chatting. Went to my room, had a shower and 20 min after I was up and running.
The two ladies, where still there. And after a smile I knew they were WG. A quick chat and after 5 min we were on a Uber looking for a place for a beer. Nice chat and 5 min after we were at a place, but both girls were without their vaccination card and we were refused. New uber, new ride. It was like I was the king and the 2 gals mine concubines. We haven't discussed about price or everything, and I was already with my hands all over their secrects spots. And my tongue jumping from one mouth to the other.
New place same red card, no entry without vaccination. It was getting late and finally we found a place to eat and drink something. Back at hotel they said I could tale just one girl to the room, they asked me to book another room. So I had to disappoint one of the 2 ladies.
I think I made the decision of the year, we'll lately I've been very lucky if you read the Singapore forum you know what I'm talking about.
I pick Gardenia, this is her name. Mid 30's, slender, curly hair. Nice ass. I spent with her the next 40 hrs.
Well I don't know if now I'm old and I just improved my radar for scams, what I know is that it was an home run.
She was amazing in bed, outside the bed. It was like she knew all I wanted before even asking. She is a queen of the BBBJ, we had sex in multiple position and I came. I lost the number of times I came inside her mouth, over her face. I came all over.
The morning I woke up with my little brother in her mouth, and she had me for breakfast. Then we had real breakfast. And started again. We had some time in the SPA, and had sex again. It was afternoon and we went for a tour I don't even remeber where. It was the biggest GFE I've had in this hobby for years. Back to the hotel we had sushi and I had her. I can't explain how good she was in what she was doing. We chatted about everything. She used to work in clubs, than paused and now she's back in business. I don't know if this was true or fictional, but I don't care. She's a real gem. Always smiling always looking for a way to please me, and she came alot, she also came alot. And if this was fictional she's an actress.
Rimming, CIM, CIF, GFE, BBBJ, you name it, I had it. Now I don't now if she's popular here or not, in any case I wish if you meet her, please treat this gem with respect. I'm looking forward for my next trip to meet her again and again.
[QUOTE=GoodTimes4444;2664693]Hello group!
Traveling to SP in April and wondering the best neighborhood to stay in with a combination of safety, good girl scene, good bar / night club scene, and good restaurants. I'd really appreciate some experienced input as I'm trying to book an Airbnb ASAP. Thank you.[/QUOTE]I had a dud phone and saved all the main Clinicia' and Boate's on Google Maps and then from the eye test the result, as the other members have said was Jardins or Moema. Pick either as with Uber being so cheap getting around to the spots as you need shouldn't be a problem.
Enjoy SP.
OG.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2665635]Hello folks,
I am visiting SP for the first time in two weeks. I don't know Portuguese language at all. How big the language barrier is going to be with SP girls?
Thanks,
TIG.[/QUOTE]Imagine yourself as deaf-mute trying to communicate with someone who doesn't speak sign language.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2665635]Hello folks,
I am visiting SP for the first time in two weeks. I don't know Portuguese language at all. How big the language barrier is going to be with SP girls?
Thanks,
TIG.[/QUOTE]You will be okay with Google translate. The girls are used to guys who don't speak a word of Portuguese and have adapted to this situation. Expect to pay higher prices especially if the girl speaks English.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2665812]Imagine yourself as deaf-mute trying to communicate with someone who doesn't speak sign language.[/QUOTE]That's not very encouraging. But I have memorized some key phrases like "Oral sem preservatio?"
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2666017]You will be okay with Google translate. The girls are used to guys who don't speak a word of Portuguese and have adapted to this situation. Expect to pay higher prices especially if the girl speaks English.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I have been okay with Google translate in Costa Rica without knowing Spanish so I guess that will be the same case here.
Question from a newcomer in SP:
So many girls entertain at their apartments. So what happens? You go to the address and call for the apartment number? Also, some reviews talk about showing some documentation at reception. What are those documents? Will a copy of my passport do?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2666119]Question from a newcomer in SP:
So many girls entertain at their apartments. So what happens? You go to the address and call for the apartment number? Also, some reviews talk about showing some documentation at reception. What are those documents? Will a copy of my passport do?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Alas, a copy may not be sufficient. Many girls work from hotels and reception will want to see the original passport.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2666119]Question from a newcomer in SP:
So many girls entertain at their apartments. So what happens? You go to the address and call for the apartment number? Also, some reviews talk about showing some documentation at reception. What are those documents? Will a copy of my passport do?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I always keep a color photo copy of my passport on me in Brazil and whether visiting apartments or hotels I never had an issue when presenting it as long as its clear. I also have a separate color photo copy of my Vaccination card. I bring multiple copies just in case they get crumpled / dirty etc.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2665635]Hello folks,
I am visiting SP for the first time in two weeks. I don't know Portuguese language at all. How big the language barrier is going to be with SP girls?.[/QUOTE]I just got back from SP last week and I was there for 8 days. No language barrier whatsoever. Memorize couple of liners in Portuguese to to "start" the convo like and then start with google translate. SP is lot of fun. Cheers. I am already thinking of my next trip already.
Not to mention all of the tutes LOL!
[URL]https://www.pbs.org/video/sao-paulo-dont-sleep-2zvjzu/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2666439]I just got back from SP last week and I was there for 8 days. No language barrier whatsoever. Memorize couple of liners in Portuguese to to "start" the convo like and then start with google translate. SP is lot of fun. Cheers. I am already thinking of my next trip already.[/QUOTE]When are the trip reports coming?
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2665635]Hello folks,
I am visiting SP for the first time in two weeks. I don't know Portuguese language at all. How big the language barrier is going to be with SP girls?.[/QUOTE]I'll also be in SP in 2 weeks. I'd be happy to help out.
Context: This was my first visit to Brazil with close to none Portuguese knowledge. I am just another guy out in late 30's and here to share my experience / report.
First things first, thank you! To this forum for amazing tips and recommendations. So here is my time to pay it back to the community.
I had lot of hassle in the flight departing USA (flight got cancelled 3 times) and I ended up reaching Brazil 15 hours later then originally expected. Despite all the hassle I was able to finally land to Brazil around midnight in Rio. Given this is SP forum, I will skip my Rio report (to be posted soon there in Rio group) So after 4 days in Rio, I took domestic flight from Rio - SP.
Landed SP around 4 ish.
Hotel:
- Hotel Grand Mercure São Paulo Ibirapuera. I'd recommend this hotel as it was GF and had no trouble navigating to other places in SP. I find that to be in safe neighborhood as well.
- Tip: Always check with hotel that if it is GF before booking AND also check how close the hotel is from Scandello (more on this later).
Mongering: From my RTFF on this forum, one thing I knew was Scandello is a place to be and it totally live to the hype.
Scandello: So as soon as I landed so SP I chcked-in, got food and went to Scandello around 8 ish. 400 cover with 200 consumable. The place is something to experience and not to be described. Out of my 7-8 days in SP I ended up coming to Scandello almost every night. Typically you will find around 100+ girls. I managed to find and fuck all my fantasies.
You will find almost all types of girls of your taste. Lack of language has it's cost but it is not a deal breaker. I learned like 20 ish words in Portuguese and was comfortable to give my intro, ask names, say that I know very little Portuguese, ask if you know English etc. To kick off the convo. Google translate was my buddy to fill in the gap wherever needed.
Out of all girls I hooked up at this club, I was able to arrange few sessions for BBFS. It was until last few days I realized that how amazing the food is at Scandello.
I highly highly recommend visiting Scandello if your budget allows. Price one should keep in mind: 400 entry (with 200 consumable), + additional drink you consume (beyond 200) + girls you choose (typical one hour is 500-700) + 230 for the hotel room. So as you can see, if you partake into one session. You are looking at 400+500+230 = 1130 at the very least. But it is totally worth it, like I said. The experience is what justifies this price.
Apart from Scandello, I did 3-4 sessions from online girls. Easy to arrange and I asked them to come to my hotel.
Cafe-photo: Cafe-photo (which is now renamed to Lotus) was early there around 8:00 PM and only 5-6 girls, Manager said he can have 20 ish girls around 11. So decided to party at Scendello instead.
Lotus Lounge for massage: Nice place, you get to pick girls from tablet. I did 2 sessions there. Both were up to my satisfaction and IMO, nice lineup of girls there. Try to pre-book if you are picky like me. Cost: 680 (350 girl + 330 spa).
Route 22 massage: Low end, found 2 girls there and none was up to my standard to bailed out. Cost: 300.
EdenSpa: They show presentation of girls one by one. I picked up one and ended up having a session. It was OK session. Cost: 500.
Also managed to pick-up local girl (sheer luck) from the restaurant, she was fluent in english. She showed me around the city and we ended up having few sessions in my hotel (free) - tbh, this was not in my agenda but I was just lucky to be in a right place at a right time. She was 30 yo skinny white skin gal.
On average I was having 3+ sessions on a given day. I am ALREADY planning when should I go next. I might end up making another trip in May / June.
Downside: there is NO downside but somehow, I personally was tired of "fuck" on 8th days of my trip to Brazil haha. 3+ sessions a day, everyday and at sometime it was mechanical to me. If and when I go next I want to revisit my approach so I don't feel this way.
I know this is not the best described report but I am happy to take feedback and answer any questions. Also from other senior members, if there is anything I should have done differently I can take more recommendations as well.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Brsvv;2666616]I'll also be in SP in 2 weeks. I'd be happy to help out.[/QUOTE]I'm not a paid member so can't contact you but thank you for the offer anyway.
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2666856]Context: This was my first visit to Brazil with close to none Portuguese knowledge. I am just another guy out in late 30's and here to share my experience
I know this is not the best described report but I am happy to take feedback and answer any questions. Also from other senior members, if there is anything I should have done differently I can take more recommendations as well.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Nice report and good going on the BBFS. Did having your test on hand help out? Also, thanks for pointing that a knowledge of Porto is not necessary for doing what you want to do. Basic phrases re good to know but google can do the rest🤣.
I have nothing more to add o wvommend because I would do the same thing if I happened to stay in SP as long as you did and I think even I would be "sexed" out after your schedule. I am sure other senior types will come along and discuss how the clinicas and prices are better cost wise and the girls are of the exact same quality as Scandello 🙄.
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2666856] Sao Paulo Visit | Feb 6th to Feb 13th Context: This was my first visit to Brazil with close to none Portuguese knowledge. I am just another guy out in late 30's and here to share my experience / report.[/QUOTE]Good and informative report. Like the posting of expenses.
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2666856]Context: This was my first visit to Brazil with close to none Portuguese knowledge. I am just another guy out in late 30's and here to share my experience / report.
First things first, thank you! To this forum for amazing tips and recommendations. So here is my time to pay it back to the community.
I had lot of hassle in the flight departing USA (flight got cancelled 3 times) and I ended up reaching Brazil 15 hours later then originally expected. Despite all the hassle I was able to finally land to Brazil around midnight in Rio. Given this is SP forum, I will skip my Rio report (to be posted soon there in Rio group) So after 4 days in Rio, I took domestic flight from Rio - SP.
Landed SP around 4 ish..[/QUOTE]Good report Gabbarsing. Sounds like you had a real good time: "3+ sessions on a given day." Way to go! Everyone had their own pace. I always do at least one girl per day and when I am in the mood and I meet up with the right girl, I will happily take on a 2nd one, so my average is approximately 1. 5 girls per day which I can keep going for an entire trip. For example on my last trip to RJ & SP in October / November (6 weeks). I felt real good the entire trip and I really did not want it to end. KKK. I even arranged for one my favorites to come over to my hotel in the afternoon just a couple of hours before I left for the airport for one last tryst.
So, I think you just need figure out the pace that is right for you for the long haul. You are young. Maybe 2.5 girls per day. LOL.
One more thing: I recall the Scandalo entrance fee being 200 br with no consumable charge and all drinks charged at the point of consumption to my running tab. I usually show up there around 9 pm or later after they open up the large entertainment bar and the outdoor patio bar. I believe they comp the 1st drink if you arrive before 7 pm.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2666966]Nice report and good going on the BBFS. Did having your test on hand help out? Also, thanks for pointing that a knowledge of Porto is not necessary for doing what you want to do. Basic phrases re good to know but google can do the rest🤣.
I have nothing more to add o wvommend because I would do the same thing if I happened to stay in SP as long as you did and I think even I would be "sexed" out after your schedule. I am sure other senior types will come along and discuss how the clinicas and prices are better cost wise and the girls are of the exact same quality as Scandello 🙄.[/QUOTE]Yes test on hand comes in very handy.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2667263]Good report Gabbarsing. Sounds like you had a real good time: "3+ sessions on a given day." Way to go! Everyone had their own pace. I always do at least one girl per day and when I am in the mood and I meet up with the right girl, I will happily take on a 2nd one, so my average is approximately 1. 5 girls per day which I can keep going for an entire trip. For example on my last trip to RJ & SP in October / November (6 weeks). I felt real good the entire trip and I really did not want it to end. KKK. I even arranged for one my favorites to come over to my hotel in the afternoon just a couple of hours before I left for the airport for one last tryst.
So, I think you just need figure out the pace that is right for you for the long haul. You are young. Maybe 2.5 girls per day. LOL.
One more thing: I recall the Scandalo entrance fee being 200 br with no consumable charge and all drinks charged at the point of consumption to my running tab. I usually show up there around 9 pm or later after they open up the large entertainment bar and the outdoor patio bar. I believe they comp the 1st drink if you arrive before 7 pm.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your insights Alex. And yeah during my next trip, I will go for 2 girls / sessions per day type of arrangement. It is sustainable for a longer run, like you said. I guess I was little too excited as this was my first trip. But this trip also motivated to work on my cardio so that's what I am focusing on in USA -- haha to be better at "performance" in my next visit.
For folks, who have been to Colombia and Brazil (SP / Rio) - which place is better for mongering.
I just got back from Brazil and this was my first ever "mongering" trip and boy I totally loved it. So here I am planning my next trip already. However, Brazil is a 16 hours flight for me so I am considering Columbia which is 10 hours flight.
Anyone been to both Brazil and Colombia that can give me some comparisons? I am not too much worried about some marginal difference in living or sex cost.
My priority is (in that order).
- Safety as solo traveller and lack of local language knowledge.
- Easy to navigate mongering hobby.
- Quality of girls (white skin, hottie).
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2667666]For folks, who have been to Colombia and Brazil (SP / Rio) - which place is better for mongering.
I just got back from Brazil and this was my first ever "mongering" trip and boy I totally loved it. So here I am planning my next trip already. However, Brazil is a 16 hours flight for me so I am considering Columbia which is 10 hours flight.
Anyone been to both Brazil and Colombia that can give me some comparisons? I am not too much worried about some marginal difference in living or sex cost.
My priority is (in that order).
- Safety as solo traveller and lack of local language knowledge.
- Easy to navigate mongering hobby.
- Quality of girls (white skin, hottie).[/QUOTE]I'll just keep this simple. I like both countries, but I love Brazilian people and culture more. And I like the way Brazilian girls fuck more better. If you want the GFE, then stick with Colombia. But if you want more PSE and / or anal action, then go with Brazil.
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2666856]
Mongering: From my RTFF on this forum, one thing I knew was Scandello is a place to be and it totally live to the hype.
Scandello: So as soon as I landed so SP I chcked-in, got food and went to Scandello around 8 ish. 400 cover with 200 consumable. The place is something to experience and not to be described. Out of my 7-8 days in SP I ended up coming to Scandello almost every night. Typically you will find around 100+ girls. I managed to find and fuck all my fantasies.
You will find almost all types of girls of your taste. Lack of language has it's cost but it is not a deal breaker. I learned like 20 ish words in Portuguese and was comfortable to give my intro, ask names, say that I know very little Portuguese, ask if you know English etc. To kick off the convo. Google translate was my buddy to fill in the gap wherever needed.
Out of all girls I hooked up at this club, I was able to arrange few sessions for BBFS. It was until last few days I realized that how amazing the food is at Scandello.
I highly highly recommend visiting Scandello if your budget allows. Price one should keep in mind: 400 entry (with 200 consumable), + additional drink you consume (beyond 200) + girls you choose (typical one hour is 500-700) + 230 for the hotel room. So as you can see, if you partake into one session. You are looking at 400+500+230 = 1130 at the very least. But it is totally worth it, like I said. The experience is what justifies this price.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report!
Scandallo is truly heaven on earth for hobbying. I just finished a week long trip myself (I landed shortly after you left) and agree with your sentiments 100%. I will post my trip reports in the next day or 2.
I am curious about additional details about your BBFS negotiations with Scandallo girls. 1) Did you negotiate it before leaving the club or after while in the room? 2). Were all your sessions 1 hour at the adjacent hotel or did you take any girls back to your hotel for an overnight? 3) did you offer or did the girls ask extra $$ for BBFS?
I've had my fair share of success negotiating BBFS, but I usually broach the subject back in my hotel room rather than at the club. I would like to hear your experience so I can get additional data points.
It just appears to me that they are more agreeable when in the comforts of my hotel room, with music, wine and snacks, etc. Setting the mood. But if one wants to be sure they are getting it, having it negotiated before leaving the club is necessary.
You mentioned typical 1 HR at Scandallo was R500-700. Was that their opening offers or what you finally settled on after negotiations?
I have found during my last 2 trips, the girls are asking for more than last year. But I generally do overnight, so I was hearing lots of R2 k to R3 k for overnight my last 2 trips, while last year, I was hearing lots of R2 k to 1. 5 k for overnights. I still end up talking down to R1 k to 1. 5 k without much issues.
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2666856]
Scandello: So as soon as I landed so SP I chcked-in, got food and went to Scandello around 8 ish. 400 cover with 200 consumable. The place is something to experience and not to be described. Out of my 7-8 days in SP I ended up coming to Scandello almost every night. Typically you will find around 100+ girls. I managed to find and fuck all my fantasies.
[/QUOTE]You can also get reduced entry of 200 (150 consumption included) by arriving before 7 pm. You can also leave and return same day and don't have to pay any extra entry and just be responsible for any consumption (no minimum).
I often times drop in at 5 or 6 with friends and the leave at 7 or 8 for dinner the return after.
I think Mondays are also slow and it's just 200 (150 consumption included).
[QUOTE]
You will find almost all types of girls of your taste. Lack of language has it's cost but it is not a deal breaker. I learned like 20 ish words in Portuguese and was comfortable to give my intro, ask names, say that I know very little Portuguese, ask if you know English etc. To kick off the convo. Google translate was my buddy to fill in the gap wherever needed.
[/QUOTE]Knowing Porto is obviously a plus, but Google translate is incredibly powerful when used right / well. I love the conversation mode with the auto setting on. I have been able to talk to a girl with Google translate hands free. As they were busy feeling her up while we were fucking!
[QUOTE]
I highly highly recommend visiting Scandello if your budget allows. Price one should keep in mind: 400 entry (with 200 consumable), + additional drink you consume (beyond 200) + girls you choose (typical one hour is 500-700) + 230 for the hotel room. So as you can see, if you partake into one session. You are looking at 400+500+230 = 1130 at the very least. But it is totally worth it, like I said. The experience is what justifies this price.
[/QUOTE]A few things to keep in mind. The hotel charges per hour so if you want multiple hours, it can get pricey. Exit fee is R250 and the LUSH love motel is nearby and incredible so can be a better option. Better yet is to take a girl back for an overnight at your place, where you can fuck as long as you want and do it again in the morning / afternoon.
[QUOTE]
Downside: there is NO downside but somehow, I personally was tired of "fuck" on 8th days of my trip to Brazil haha. 3+ sessions a day, everyday and at sometime it was mechanical to me. If and when I go next I want to revisit my approach so I don't feel this way.
[/QUOTE]I know the burnout of too much fucking well from previous trips Due to the time and expense of traveling to somewhere to mainly hobby, a person usually overdo it!
I've since learned to pace myself better and stick to 1 girl a night / day. I love overnights with new girls or dinner dates & overnights with repeats.
I can usually get one in before dinner, another before sleeping and one more in the morning. That leaves me so satisfied that I don't need to hit up a clinica or massage or online girl during the day.
The savings of having 3+ shots for 1 overnight price saves money too vs. 3 separate girls for 1 hour each with potential room fees.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2667835]Thanks for the report!
Scandallo is truly heaven on earth for hobbying. I just finished a week long trip myself (I landed shortly after you left) and agree with your sentiments 100%. I will post my trip reports in the next day or 2.
I am curious about additional details about your BBFS negotiations with Scandallo girls. 1) Did you negotiate it before leaving the club or after while in the room? 2). Were all your sessions 1 hour at the adjacent hotel or did you take any girls back to your hotel for an overnight? 3) did you offer or did the girls ask extra $$ for BBFS?
I've had my fair share of success negotiating BBFS, but I usually broach the subject back in my hotel room rather than at the club. I would like to hear your experience so I can get additional data points.
It just appears to me that they are more agreeable when in the comforts of my hotel room, with music, wine and snacks, etc. Setting the mood. But if one wants to be sure they are getting it, having it negotiated before leaving the club is necessary.
You mentioned typical 1 HR at Scandallo was R500-700. Was that their opening offers or what you finally settled on after negotiations?
I have found during my last 2 trips, the girls are asking for more than last year. But I generally do overnight, so I was hearing lots of R2 k to R3 k for overnight my last 2 trips, while last year, I was hearing lots of R2 k to 1. 5 k for overnights. I still end up talking down to R1 k to 1. 5 k without much issues.[/QUOTE]How do you guys justify these prices? A pernoite with a Scandallo girl is 2000 R-2500 R easy, including the entrance fee, take out fee, etc. Thats 400 to 500 USD at current exchange rate. Regardless of how much money you have, don't you think it is pricey for Brazil? Also, you can't test drive a girl before you agree on the price, so you have no idea how she will perform in bed. These girls are pros, and pros generally do not provide GFE. The best sessions I have had in my life were with non pros or semi pros. Service is always a gamble, but in case of Scandallo, a very pricey one. In Colombia you can fuck the hottest girls for $100-$200 USD. In Rio probably the same price range, up to 1000 R pernoite. So, why bother with SP and Scandallo?
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2667666]For folks, who have been to Colombia and Brazil (SP / Rio) - which place is better for mongering.
I just got back from Brazil and this was my first ever "mongering" trip and boy I totally loved it. So here I am planning my next trip already. However, Brazil is a 16 hours flight for me so I am considering Columbia which is 10 hours flight.
Anyone been to both Brazil and Colombia that can give me some comparisons? I am not too much worried about some marginal difference in living or sex cost.
My priority is (in that order).
- Safety as solo traveller and lack of local language knowledge.
- Easy to navigate mongering hobby.
- Quality of girls (white skin, hottie).[/QUOTE]Have been to both countries dozens of times. I give Brasil the edge for this hobby, as the women just tend to be wilder. Having said that, Colombia is about half the travel time for me as Brasil and I also speak Spanish much better than Portuguese. So Colombia has its advantages.
Both countries can be dangerous, but if you watch yourself you're generally ok. I've had close calls in both, but escaped unscathed.
I prefer morenas, but you can find light skin girls in both countries. In Brasil, SP has more than Rio and the South of the country has even more. In Colombia, stay inland for the Blancas.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2667879]How do you guys justify these prices? A pernoite with a Scandallo girl is 2000 R-2500 R easy, including the entrance fee, take out fee, etc. Thats 400 to 500 USD at current exchange rate. Regardless of how much money you have, don't you think it is pricey for Brazil? Also, you can't test drive a girl before you agree on the price, so you have no idea how she will perform in bed. These girls are pros, and pros generally do not provide GFE. The best sessions I have had in my life were with non pros or semi pros. Service is always a gamble, but in case of Scandallo, a very pricey one. In Colombia you can fuck the hottest girls for $100-$200 USD. In Rio probably the same price range, up to 1000 R pernoite. So, why bother with SP and Scandallo?[/QUOTE]1st I don't justify nothing. Each of us are different. Our commonality lies in the fact that we are all men trying to maximize our pleasures given our personal preferences and our individual financial constraints.
Where to start? Expenditures: some guys on principle will not spend more than 300 br for a pernoite for whatever reason, who cares, and some guys are willing to spend a whole lot more, again who cares?
Quality: its in the eye of the beholder, man. What can I say? I have seen guys with girls I would not fuck blindfolded, and yet they are having a great time and think they are with a hot tamale. Conversely, I know some guys would not think too highly of my slender, small tit / small ass preferences. Who cares?
"So, why bother with SP and Scandallo?" I think that is a rhetorical question on your part because I think you have already made up your mind on this and you prefer the Termas and RJ. But here is my answer anyway: IMHO, the best looking girls that I have seen & shagged in RJ Termas are in the 6 range of Scandallo girls. That does not mean I am not attracted to some Terma girls and I do not have a good time at the Termas because I do. It just means that on an average night I find better lookers and in larger numbers in Scandallo than in any RJ Terma that I know of. I also prefer the classy nightclub ambiance that Scandallo has over the Termas, although I need variety too, so I like to have fun in the Termas as well. My nights would soon seem repetitious if I only went to Scandallo and the other SP Boates or If I only travelled to Brazil and shagged Brazilian girls exclusively.
Pro vs Amateur: "These girls are pros, and pros generally do not provide GFE. The best sessions I have had in my life were with non pros or semi pros. " I won't argue with you over who provides the best sex: pros or amateurs. Let's assume that you are right. I still prefer hookers because at this stage in my life I don't want the emotional baggage that comes with a non-professional relationship. You pay no matter which type of girl you are with. I prefer a straight up $$$ transaction that's all and yet many of my repeat girls give me solid GFE and we have stayed in touch for years and years. I have this Thai girl that I met in 2009 when she was 22 and the sexiest little girl in Baccara. She is no longer Go Go quality, that's life, but I like her so we continue to see each other. That is a GFE.
On LT ie the pereonite: I think you make a valid point with "you have no idea how she will perform in bed" But so far, knock on wood, I have not had a bad session in a SP Boate, Clinica, or RJ Terma, although quality does vary from "that was pretty good" to "OMG, that was fucking amazing". KKK. For this reason, I never commit to a LT session until I have sampled a girl's ST and discover I really want to spend a whole night with HER.
So, when I go to Scandallo or the other SP Boates or a RJ Terma, I like to shag in-house when I first meet a girl. Then afterwards I like to hang around with the girl if everything was really good and I like her. If the feeling is mutual we exchange What's App numbers so we can set up a meet at her apartment or my hotel for next time. Or I like to hang around the club solo and see who else is available for a possible 2nd in-house round. So yeah, the Boate tab or the Terma tab for that matter can get large, KKK. You do the math: Scandallo entry fee, room charge, girl #1, drinks, then more drinks, room charge, girl #2. But I am having a great time with some smoking hot girls and frankly I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks about that. LOL.
Anyhow, the bottom line for me is the nightlife is better in SP for the reasons I gave, namely the best looking girls, although I like RJ too just not as much. Ha Ha. But as I said at the top of this post, "we are all men trying to maximize our pleasure given our personal preferences and our individual financial constraints. " You do it your way and I will do it mine and we will get along fine.
A. H.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2667879]How do you guys justify these prices? A pernoite with a Scandallo girl is 2000 R-2500 R easy, including the entrance fee, take out fee, etc. Thats 400 to 500 USD at current exchange rate. Regardless of how much money you have, don't you think it is pricey for Brazil? Also, you can't test drive a girl before you agree on the price, so you have no idea how she will perform in bed. These girls are pros, and pros generally do not provide GFE. The best sessions I have had in my life were with non pros or semi pros. Service is always a gamble, but in case of Scandallo, a very pricey one. In Colombia you can fuck the hottest girls for $100-$200 USD. In Rio probably the same price range, up to 1000 R pernoite. So, why bother with SP and Scandallo?[/QUOTE]How does one justify spending $300 for an Michelin star quality meal? How does one justify buying a Mercedes / BMW vs a Ford / Chevy? There are no justifications or explanations required.
Like AH said below, the quality of the girls at Scandello consistently beats the quality of any RJ terma or boate. There isn't a comparison.
Speaking for myself, I follow a simple rule. If I am going to monger, I am going to get pussy that is way hotter than what I have at home or in my town. This will probably cost me more but it is an indulgence every few months just like a Michelin star meal. Now, there are guys who are perfectly fine with "two tits, a hole and a heartbeat. Heartbeat optional" quality. Nothing wrong with that either. To each his own.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2667879]How do you guys justify these prices? A pernoite with a Scandallo girl is 2000 R-2500 R easy, including the entrance fee, take out fee, etc. Thats 400 to 500 USD at current exchange rate.
[/QUOTE]R2000-2500 might be some of their opening asking prices, but I've never had a problem paying between R1000 to R1500 in the end.
If you are including entrance fees, consumption and exit fee, I think you are being disingenuous. Those have their own perks and has nothing to do with cost for spending the night with a girl. There has been times I have went with friends and decided to go home empty handed and didn't feel "ripped off". The entry fee gave me the chance to interact with lots of hotties in an easy environment.
The entrance is for the facilities use. The consumption is for drinks and food. The room fee is for use of the room and shower and the exit fee is to have her go home with you then and there rather than get her number for a later hookup. Instant satisfaction rather than delayed gratification. It is the same as in RJ tier 1 Termas. Do you include the entrance fee, consumption, room fee or exit fee when calculating how much you are paying for the girl to spend the night?
I have found getting numbers for takeout to be harder in RJ tier 1 termas (4 x4 was the exception) as many of the clubs don't allow a girl to give their number to a guy out in the open or even have their phone on them. It has to be done in a room. Or so they claim. Maybe I've been tricked by many of those girls. Who knows. But in Scandallo, I've had no issues getting numbers from girls for another day,/ night.
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Regardless of how much money you have, don't you think it is pricey for Brazil?
[/QUOTE]Is R1000 to R1500 (what I usually pay for an overnight) or R2000 to 2500 (what some girls ask for, but might or might not get from other guys) pricey for Brazil? That is a subjective question.
I can go to other clubs (cafe photo, connections, bamboa, etc.) and have pulled girls for overnights at each of those clubs for a little less than Scandallo. However, I've gotten burned a few times at each club as I found nothing I wanted and ended up leaving after 30 mim. As I was on the hook for the entrance fee / minimum consumption, I ended up having a very very expensive (R250 to R350 depending on the club) Coke, Red Bull or beer! I've never had that problem at Scandallo. It's easier to count girls I DON'T want than girls that I do. As my brain would get overwhelmed doing the latter at Scandallo!
I can also get a clinica girl for R4-700 for overnight and have done so on a few occasions. I can go to VM in RJ and pull one for even less. But are they on the same level as the girl I will be pulling from Scandallo? Almost certainly not.
I am not just talking about looks here, but their demeanor, education, the way they carry themselves. Their confidence, etc. Many of them are doctors, lawyers, nurses, real models, other professionals. I like to take a girl on dinner dates at nice places and I want the girl to not just look the part, but act the part in that environment.
Scandallo might be high end, but there are even higher end girls. Your print model girls, celebrities, social media influencers, etc. All available on the down low, in the "pink book" or requiring special connect / introduction. Girls that have seen so much of the world by 19 or 20 and used to be wisked away to the French Alps, Paris, Tulum, Maldives, etc. On a regular basis. Those girls ask and easily get 2-4 x Scandallo prices and stay at 5 star accomodations, go on luxury shopping trips, etc.
I've sampled some of these super high end girls, but I am not rich enough or baller enough to see those girls on the regular. Many other guys are rich enough and I totally envy them, I also root them on! I certainly don't think "Man. There guys are ruining my market, etc. ". There is a lane and comfort level for everyone, both girls and guys.
So to finally answer your question of "Regardless of how much money you have, don't you think it is pricey for Brazil?
For me, Nope! DEFINITELY NOT!
Girls for hobbying at all end of the spectrum are bargains in Brazil, especially due to the strong Dollar, Euro, Pound, etc. The same would cost 3-10 x more on the US, whether you are going after a clinica romp or a boates overnight.
You mentioned an overnight at Scandallo is costly "That's 400 to 500 USD at current exchange rate. ". For a hot high end escort in the US, an overnight would be $2 k to $5 k USD. Depending on which city. As I am from NYC, it skews toward the higher end. And you are adding other fees and F&be consumption that has nothing to do with a girl's price. I wouldn't add dinner cost and hotel cost and taxi cost or room service cost to what I pay an escort in the US for an overnight.
I also Iove Brazilian hooker math. It is so much better compared to the US. In the US. 2 hrs is double the hourly rate and each hour after that has minor discount, where you might be paying 10 x hourly rate for 12 or 14 hours together. In Brazil, if a girl charged R500 for 1 HR, she would be fine with R700 for 2 or 3 hours and R1000 to R1200 for overnight of 10+ hours!
To put it another way. I can pay R1000 to 1500 for a super hot Scandallo girl for 10-16 hrs to hang with, dine with, fuck with. That same amount in equivalent USD would barely get me 30-60 minutes at a NYC AMP, our version of a SP clinica. And if I want a clinica girl, I can do to one for R150 to R250, which is only USD $30-50!
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Also, you can't test drive a girl before you agree on the price, so you have no idea how she will perform in bed. These girls are pros, and pros generally do not provide GFE. The best sessions I have had in my life were with non pros or semi pros. Service is always a gamble, but in case of Scandallo, a very pricey one. In Colombia you can fuck the hottest girls for $100-$200 USD. In Rio probably the same price range, up to 1000 R pernoite. So, why bother with SP and Scandallo?[/QUOTE]Who says you can't test drive a Scandallo girl? You can take them for 1 hour for R5-700 in club.
I just usually choose not to as 1) I get better value due to Brazilian hooker math for multiple hours or overnights back at my nice hotel room and 2) I believe in my ability to read and charm a girl. The Scandallo environment is perfect for talking and checking out your chemistry with a girl. You can discuss what you and her like in bed, her rules or boundaries, her kinks and fetishes, etc. You certainly can't do that at a clinica, casa, brothel, etc.
As for non pro vs pro, I disagree. Many of the girls at Scandallo are very part time. Even the regulars, they are women, perhaps with a bigger wall erected. Whether it's me vetting then well or we just had good chemistry or me just treating them with respect and generousity And they dropped their wall and wanted to return the favor. I've had some of the most passionate, true GFE, PSE, whirlwind / tornado / hurricane like sex with Scandallo girls in overnights.
Non pros with little experience in bed can't compete with a pro who knows all the tricks of pleasuring you. Especially when they Ike you and just treat you as a regular guy that they want to fuck the shit out of or make super slow sensual and passionate love to!
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2668043]R2000-2500 might be some of their opening asking prices, but I've never had a problem paying between R1000 to R1500 in the end.
If you are including entrance fees, consumption and exit fee, I think you are being disingenuous. Those have their own perks and has nothing to do with cost for spending the night with a girl. There has been times I have went with friends and decided to go home empty handed and didn't feel "ripped off". The entry fee gave me the chance to interact with lots of hotties in an easy environment.
The entrance is for the facilities use. The consumption is for drinks and food. The room fee is for use of the room and shower and the exit fee is to have her go home with you then and there rather than get her number for a later hookup. Instant satisfaction rather than delayed gratification. It is the same as in RJ tier 1 Termas. Do you include the entrance fee, consumption, room fee or exit fee when calculating how much you are paying for the girl to spend the night?
I have found getting numbers for takeout to be harder in RJ tier 1 termas (4 x4 was the exception) as many of the clubs don't allow a girl to give their number to a guy out in the open or even have their phone on them. It has to be done in a room. Or so they claim. Maybe I've been tricked by many of those girls. Who knows. But in Scandallo, I've had no issues getting numbers from girls for another day,/ night.
Is R1000 to R1500 (what I usually pay for an overnight) or R2000 to 2500 (what some girls ask for, but might or might not get from other guys) pricey for Brazil? That is a subjective question.
I can go to other clubs (cafe photo, connections, bamboa, etc.) and have pulled girls for overnights at each of those clubs for a little less than Scandallo. However, I've gotten burned a few times at each club as I found nothing I wanted and ended up leaving after 30 mim. As I was on the hook for the entrance fee / minimum consumption, I ended up having a very very expensive (R250 to R350 depending on the club) Coke, Red Bull or beer! I've never had that problem at Scandallo. It's easier to count girls I DON'T want than girls that I do. As my brain would get overwhelmed doing the latter at Scandallo!
I can also get a clinica girl for R4-700 for overnight and have done so on a few occasions. I can go to VM in RJ and pull one for even less. But are they on the same level as the girl I will be pulling from Scandallo? Almost certainly not.
I am not just talking about looks here, but their demeanor, education, the way they carry themselves. Their confidence, etc. Many of them are doctors, lawyers, nurses, real models, other professionals. I like to take a girl on dinner dates at nice places and I want the girl to not just look the part, but act the part in that environment.
Scandallo might be high end, but there are even higher end girls. Your print model girls, celebrities, social media influencers, etc. All available on the down low, in the "pink book" or requiring special connect / introduction. Girls that have seen so much of the world by 19 or 20 and used to be wisked away to the French Alps, Paris, Tulum, Maldives, etc. On a regular basis. Those girls ask and easily get 2-4 x Scandallo prices and stay at 5 star accomodations, go on luxury shopping trips, etc.
I've sampled some of these super high end girls, but I am not rich enough or baller enough to see those girls on the regular. Many other guys are rich enough and I totally envy them, I also root them on! I certainly don't think "Man. There guys are ruining my market, etc. ". There is a lane and comfort level for everyone, both girls and guys.
So to finally answer your question of "Regardless of how much money you have, don't you think it is pricey for Brazil?
For me, Nope! DEFINITELY NOT!
Girls for hobbying at all end of the spectrum are bargains in Brazil, especially due to the strong Dollar, Euro, Pound, etc. The same would cost 3-10 x more on the US, whether you are going after a clinica romp or a boates overnight.
You mentioned an overnight at Scandallo is costly "That's 400 to 500 USD at current exchange rate. ". For a hot high end escort in the US, an overnight would be $2 k to $5 k USD. Depending on which city. As I am from NYC, it skews toward the higher end. And you are adding other fees and F&be consumption that has nothing to do with a girl's price. I wouldn't add dinner cost and hotel cost and taxi cost or room service cost to what I pay an escort in the US for an overnight.
I also Iove Brazilian hooker math. It is so much better compared to the US. In the US. 2 hrs is double the hourly rate and each hour after that has minor discount, where you might be paying 10 x hourly rate for 12 or 14 hours together. In Brazil, if a girl charged R500 for 1 HR, she would be fine with R700 for 2 or 3 hours and R1000 to R1200 for overnight of 10+ hours!
To put it another way. I can pay R1000 to 1500 for a super hot Scandallo girl for 10-16 hrs to hang with, dine with, fuck with. That same amount in equivalent USD would barely get me 30-60 minutes at a NYC AMP, our version of a SP clinica. And if I want a clinica girl, I can do to one for R150 to R250, which is only USD $30-50!
Who says you can't test drive a Scandallo girl? You can take them for 1 hour for R5-700 in club.
I just usually choose not to as 1) I get better value due to Brazilian hooker math for multiple hours or overnights back at my nice hotel room and 2) I believe in my ability to read and charm a girl. The Scandallo environment is perfect for talking and checking out your chemistry with a girl. You can discuss what you and her like in bed, her rules or boundaries, her kinks and fetishes, etc. You certainly can't do that at a clinica, casa, brothel, etc.
As for non pro vs pro, I disagree. Many of the girls at Scandallo are very part time. Even the regulars, they are women, perhaps with a bigger wall erected. Whether it's me vetting then well or we just had good chemistry or me just treating them with respect and generousity And they dropped their wall and wanted to return the favor. I've had some of the most passionate, true GFE, PSE, whirlwind / tornado / hurricane like sex with Scandallo girls in overnights.
Non pros with little experience in bed can't compete with a pro who knows all the tricks of pleasuring you. Especially when they Ike you and just treat you as a regular guy that they want to fuck the shit out of or make super slow sensual and passionate love to![/QUOTE]Thank you for the response!
I normally do not count hotels / wine&dine / taxi expenses, because they are optional and vary a lot. One night we could wine and dine at a fancy restaurant, another night we could stay in, watching Netflix and having Rappi for dinner. Really depends on my and my girl's mood, day of the week, weather conditions, etc. The reason I had included those fees is because they are mandatory and imposed by the establishment, there is no way to skip or reduce the fees. As to the test drive, sure, you can get a girl for 1 hour, but is doesn't make much sense, because her performance in the room could be very different, usually much worse, than the service she would provide outside of the club. And the price for 1 HR could easily be around 1000 R, including the room, so yeah, I agree with you, it makes much more sense, financially, to take a girl out for pernoite. In that case, you take on a bigger risk, but your reward could be higher as well.
You mentioned 2000-2500 opening asking rates, I don't think everyone can negotiate and bring those rates down to 1000-1500, that is a 50% discount. I have read reports where guys paid north of 2000 for pernoites. I guess it depends on how popular a girl is, how a monger looks, his interpersonal and negotiating skills. I'm sure some of us would pay full asking price without giving it a second thought.
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2667666]For folks, who have been to Colombia and Brazil (SP / Rio) - which place is better for mongering.
My priority is (in that order).
- Safety as solo traveller and lack of local language knowledge.
- Easy to navigate mongering hobby.
- Quality of girls (white skin, hottie).[/QUOTE]Safety: I feel like a WG is more likely to rob you in Colombia than Brazil. General safety will vary by city.
Navigate: Brazil. It's hard to get bad service there.
Quality: Subjective. You can't go wrong with either place.
Just wrapped up a trip. 5 pernoites: 3 from Scandallo, one from Connections, and one from 57.
Prices ranged from 800 - 1500 $.
Had one social media influencer via a connection for 2000 $.
Did one clinica run at Aboborra which has yet to disappoint me.
I'm not going to go super in depth on this report, but the experiences were diverse and satisfying. Got CBJ with on one of the pernoites, but that was on me too because I didn't verify.
Stay safe.
Anyone saw that fight at Scandallo last week between some girls over a client?
I've been catching up on some reading while waiting for my date tonight. I'm on the ground but in Montreal, man the potential here is huge! Anyhow, I think I agree with the camp that says what you pay is worth it to you if you have a great time. Would some others get a bargain at other places or if they speak Porto? Maybe, but to me, I've paid 1500 consistently for my pernoites and have not been disappointed or got bad service. Heck, in two I got BBFS for the same cost. Scandallo is no doubt the place to be.
For comparison, I've sessioned with 8 girls this week so far, and the cost of a pernoite in Brazil would only get me 1. 5 h of fun here. So hell yeah it's worth it. Even at 2000-2500 it's still worth it. I have a dinner date with a girl I sessioned with this week and hopefully spend the night after, we have not discussed any money, but I expect to give her some afterwards.
I never felt the need to try a girl in Scandallo prior to doing a pernoite, I guess I trusted my instincts every time and they didn't fail me. I only visited Rj once and I think Termas are a nice change of pace but I'm a Scandallo fan, I hope to be back later this year, once I'm done banging all the hotties I can here in Montreal.
Gentlemen,
I am back from the abyss (temporarily) for some small commentary. I was almost able to pull off a trip to Brazil in a couple weeks, but will be going to Colombia instead.
Nonetheless, I would like to chime in about pernoite. As a general rule, I don't do pernoite because I'm not interested in getting it with the same girl more than once if I'm paying. That's what girlfriends are for (personal preference of course). BUT, the one time I did pernoite in Scandallo the girl's vag smelled like death. That is just my luck for not giving it a test run in the hotel above the venue. Horrible experience, but since I'm a nice guy I made up a story about why she had to leave. Feel free to read all about it from my trip reports last summer. I get that this is a rental car business and that you can't test ride before you get a rental car, but I consider pernoite a lease. I will absolutely test drive a vehicle before I lease it. And the golden rule of this hobby gentlemen. Never buy.
Anyway, that isn't meant to slander Scandallo's name at all. The place is paradise on earth. I'll be back this summer for quite a while to enjoy that experience. Until then, keep up the good fight.
Tia.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2668147]Anyone saw that fight at Scandallo last week between some girls over a client?[/QUOTE]Yes. Is that what it was? Over a client? For everyone else, it was in the restaurant. It wasn't a fist fight, I just heard a glass break, some squealing, and one girl cry inconsolably. Security got their asses out of there with the quickness.
Well said.
I've done a mini relationship of 25 pernoites BBFS with a tier 1 terma girl (300-500 r per).
Leasing is the right analogy.
You never want to buy a working girl. Jesus what a clusterfuck of a family.
That said the cost per fuck goes down considerably.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2668189]Gentlemen,
I am back from the abyss (temporarily) for some small commentary. I was almost able to pull off a trip to Brazil in a couple weeks, but will be going to Colombia instead.
Nonetheless, I would like to chime in about pernoite. As a general rule, I don't do pernoite because I'm not interested in getting it with the same girl more than once if I'm paying. That's what girlfriends are for (personal preference of course). BUT, the one time I did pernoite in Scandallo the girl's vag smelled like death. That is just my luck for not giving it a test run in the hotel above the venue. Horrible experience, but since I'm a nice guy I made up a story about why she had to leave. Feel free to read all about it from my trip reports last summer. I get that this is a rental car business and that you can't test ride before you get a rental car, but I consider pernoite a lease. I will absolutely test drive a vehicle before I lease it. And the golden rule of this hobby gentlemen. Never buy.[/QUOTE]
Is there anything fun to do in this city on Sunday nights? Everything seems to be closed. Maybe Casarao is the only place that seems like it might be open?
Some bargain deals just aren't worth it my friend! Think of the kids resulting from such a union! They would never live it down.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2668393]Well said.
I've done a mini relationship of 25 pernoites BBFS with a tier 1 terma girl (300-500 r per).
Leasing is the right analogy.
You never want to buy a working girl. Jesus what a clusterfuck of a family.
That said the cost per fuck goes down considerably.[/QUOTE]
I will say having a GF is fun.
When in Rome. When in Rio, having a hoar as a GF is something I would recommend for a while.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2668629]Some bargain deals just aren't worth it my friend! Think of the kids resulting from such a union! They would never live it down.[/QUOTE]
That's what everyone is telling me. Security kicked 3 girls out. 1 was cut in the arm. Must be that desperate to fight over a client.
[QUOTE=MixedSalad07;2668371]Yes. Is that what it was? Over a client? For everyone else, it was in the restaurant. It wasn't a fist fight, I just heard a glass break, some squealing, and one girl cry inconsolably. Security got their asses out of there with the quickness.[/QUOTE]
Besides boates / clubs, my friends and I also hit up a lot of clinicas, mostly near the Moema area. There are at least 8 to 10 within walking distance to each other, although I mainly only went to five or six of them. Prices are around R150-R190 for 30 min or R220 to R250 for 60 min. There are also 4 hand (dupla) specials and reviewer specials offered.
There or also some high-end places all over SP, where they show you an iPad of the talent. (Oro Spa, The Palms, Lotus Lounge, etc.) Prices range from R500 to R700, but I never got around to trying them out.
Clinicas:
Moema Prime.
Av. Ira, 511 - Moema, So Paulo. SP, 04082-001, Brazil.
Prime is my favorite place as it has a large roster, lots of variety with lots of newbies coming by for a short tour, regular vets who provide good to great service and an inviting, clean and friendly atmosphere. It is R180 for 30 min and R250 for 60 min.
The two receptionist are both awesome. They are friendly and helpful, especially Patricia, who is a riot! The girls here are usually slimmer but they have quite a bit of voluptuous ones too. They get a lot of newbies rotated in and out so every week is a mystery especially on the weekends!
I've seen 5 or 6 girls here and they range from good to OMFG in terms of service. I had my first unsolicited anal sex in Brazil here with a girl that was just there for a week. I had my best clinica sessions (and top 10 overall across all venues) in Brazil here. Her name is Jade and provides passionate GFE / PSE service that will blow your mind. 12-16 girls are usually working here.
Abbbora.
Alameda dos Guaramomis, 1275 - Moema, So Paulo. SP, 04076-012, Brazil.
My second favorite place even though I never took a girl here. Their roster is wide and varied and I saw many friends go with girls I would have taken, if they didn't choose them first! 10-16 girls.
Clinica Miruna.
Av. Miruna, 644 - Indianpolis, So Paulo. SP, 04084-002, Brazil.
Very consistent spot with some hotties. Had two slim spinners here and both were decent. 7-10 girls.
Enjoy Spa.
Rua Condessa do Pinhal, 279 - Campo Belo, So Paulo. SP, 04610-060, Brazil.
Just like Abbbora, I didn't session here, but friends did and I would have too, if I didn't give them first dibs. 7-10 girls.
57 House Friend's Club.
Alameda dos Aics, 1293 - Moema, So Paulo. SP, 04086-003, Brazil.
I had been here about 3 times without sessioning, as I either deferred to my friend or I was tight on time or a girl I was interested in wss talking to someone. The talent is decent during the day with around 6-10 girls.
I found a diamond in the rough on my last visit here last year. She clearly stood out from the pack due to her looks. I deferred to my wingman as he was leaving that night and I had a few more days.
After he told me she gave only "okay lite GFE service", I decided to see her anyway as she was a 9 to 9. 5 in looks for me. Her pricing was clinica pricing, so not expensive. Saw her for R400 for 2-3 hrs. She and I clicked at my hotel, as our chemistry was off the charts. One of the best True GFE session I had. And we only spoke via Google Translate! Extended to overnight for R700 total. Among the best value I had in SP in terms of: looks + service / $$ ratio.
Kamna Spa.
Av. Moaci, 885 - Planalto Paulista, So Paulo. SP, 04083-002, Brazil.
Same as Enjoy above, but smaller roster.
Food:
SP ia a foodie's paradise, especially with the crazy good exchange rate if you are from the US, UK or Europe.
My top 10 restaurants I have eaten at are:
1) the. O. M. - Michelin star fine dining.
2) A Casa do Porco Bar. Pork lover's paradise.
3) Jun Sakamoto. Amazing omakase.
4) Ryo Gastronomia. Creative and tastey sushi.
5) Nino Cucina. Elegant and yummy Italian.
6) Figueira Rubaiyat. Great steaks and tapas.
7) Barbacoa. Better Brazilian steakhouse than Fogo de Cho.
8) Camares Restaurante. Good seafood, fish and shrimp.
9) BICOL Korean Cuisine. Korean food that feels like home.
10) Mocot. Traditional Brazilian food.
Special mentions:
11) Seen. Restaurant & Bar. Mixology lover's wet dream.
12) Skye. Cool rooftop bar.
13) BotaniKaf. Great brunch spot.
14) Banana Caf. Dessert and coffee.
15) O'Malley's. The ultimate sports bar in SP carrying all NFL games.
16) The Blue Pub. Great pub food and. Good place to watch sports.
Experiences and random musings:
Most of my mongering on my SP ended up being with boates girls and all, but one, were pernoite or multiple hours romps at my hotel. Most of the girls were from Scandallo, but I did pull a few from Connection, Cafe Photo, Bomboa and 57 Friends.
I had planned to hit boates at night and clinica during the day, but the pernoites were usually so good and lasted late into the morning or early afternoon that I had no energy or desire to hit up a clinica or check out online girls during the day.
I ended up with 4 Scandallo "wives" at one point, that I was repeating with on subsequent trips. It was getting to be too much as I wanted variety as well as good repeats. But things have a way of working themselves out.
One eventually got jealous of me seeing other girls and ditched me in an angry fit. Even though she was seeing other clients. Another started a serious relationship with a guy and we stopped seeing each other, but remain platonic friends. One moved to Europe for school. I am glad my last Scandallo wife is still in SP, as she is my favorite. She is super chill, looks hot as fuck, speaks fluent English and a freak in bed. She also has super hot model / influencer friends who work UTR as pink book girls! She is so amazing that I want to take her on trips to other places in Brazil in the future, or even out of the country.
Some of my friends were more clinica guys and they were happy as clams having 2-4 different clinica girls a day at 30 min each session. One friend of mine stuck gold with an online girl and spent most of his time with her. There are so many hobbying options in SP that you can do what fits your comfort level.
I speak very little Portuguese, but have no issues communicating with the aid of Google translate. The conversation mode is incredibly powerful. Knowing some common greetings and questions is helpful in breaking the ice though. Knowing Spanish also helps as some girls understand or speak it.
Google Fi works great in SP, as do Verizon and AT&T international day passes. I didn't bother with local SIM as I averaged about 5-6 days per trip.
Finally, I think besides my wallet, the main reason I had such a great time mongering in SP is because I treat the girls with respect. Too many of the local Brazilian men treat their women like objects and treat them like shit. A wise dude recently told me that Brazil is the last western country where macho men are still accepted and still rule supreme here. I agree with him, but that doesn't mean their women isn't yearning to be treated more like equals.
I think my generousity and treating them with respect has yielded incredible dividends, as I had some of the most passionate true GFE sex I've ever had. Brazilian women are passionate, generous, sexual dynamos and I only wished I discovered Sampa earlier in my hobbying career.
I stopped doing trip reports after my first 3 visits to SP from last year, but my lat 3-4 trips since then have been better and better so I figure I should share some of the adventures, observations and tips after my 6+ trips to Brazil in the last 12 months.
Just be aware that this is coming from the perspective of someone who visit SP for only 4 to 7 days per trip and has limited Portuguese knowledge, so time is my most precious commodity. I am not looking to spend the majority of my limited time trying to find diamonds in the rough at bargain basement prices. I don't play the normal long game that some of the locals or long-term residents play.
My goal each trip is to shag the hottest girls possible that I have good chemistry or connection with. English skills are definitely a plus as I like to take a girl out to dinner, and having to use Google translate in that environment isn't enjoyable or optimal. I don't mind paying top end prices, but also look for "value" within said venue. If I can get most of the hotter girls for a pernoite at a particular boate for R1,000 to R1,500, I ain't going to be plunking down R3,000 to some hottie looking to hustle a gringo at that same spot!
Hotels:
I have stayed at the Renaissance, Grand Hyatt, Intercontinental, Hotel Unique, Tivoli and Fasano and all of them are high end 4-5 hotels that are girl friendly. They first two treat me amazingly due to my loyalty status from frequent travel so I usually stay there.
The Renaissance is probably the best combination the price, location, service and amenities. And it is super girl friendly. They even have a few working girls manning the lobby bar during the evenings! I've also seen so many obvious working girls go in and out of the Renaissance, from clinica girls to Scandallo or "pink book" girls, many of which I have been with or seen at the boates / clinicas.
I also have had friends stay at the Bourbon, IBIS, Pullman and Mecure in SP and all say they are girl friendly and offer good location and value. They especially like the locations near Moema for clinicas or Jardins to be closer to the restaurants and boates.
Whichever hotel you choose, make sure to book for 2 or more persons. If not, the hotel can add a "guest fee" when you have a girl come to your room.
Uber:
Use it over taxi whenever you can. Not only is it cheaper, you do not have to worry about having exact change. It's generally safer as well. If you're not in a rush for time you can use regular UberX / VIP. Use Uber black when you are pressed for time, as it cuts down on cancelations. Many times, the price between Black and X is similar. And once in awhile, even cheaper!
Just be sure to check that a driver actually ends your ride after dropping you off. I had one driver drop me and a Scandallo girl off at the Renaissance and then continue driving to GRU airport on my dime! Nothing a quick complaint to Uber didn't fix. But still annoying. Some might also take circuitous routes if you are napping to jack up the fare.
ATM / Credit Card:
I usually hit the ATM at the airport upon arrival for some hobbying and pocket money. Like R1,000 to R2,000. I then hit the ATMs in the city for more hobbying cash as needed. Bradesco and Santander are my go to banks. High withdrawal limits and low fees. I suggest having a Schwab or TD bank account for international hobbying as they reimburse ATM fees.
For everything else, I use a credit card, that doesn't have international transaction fees, for food, transportation, shopping, etc. You can also charge some to all of your hobbying expenses to your CC (many of which are without any extra fees) for CC points / miles!
I usually bring $500 to $1,000 USD as emergency cash. Having that extra cash is great if you are short some Real to pay your girl and you don't want to run to an ATM. You can just give her $100 USD in lieu of R500. The extra she gets via the exchange rate will more than cover the FX exchange fee.
Boates / Clubs:
Scandallo Lounge.
Are. Cel. Diogo, 1199 - Vila Monumento, So Paulo. SP, 01545-001, Brazil.
Might as well start with the best. It is by far the best boate in SP and Brazil. I haven't been to some of the now extinct places like Help in RJ or Dongguan, China, but my friend and I that have hobbied in Rio, Germany, Spain, France, UK, Switzerland, Netherlands, Austria, Colombia, DR, CR, Tijuana, CDMX, other Central and South American countries, China, HKG, Macau, Thailand, and Australia all believe Scandallo beats all current hobbying venues for the sheer volume of hot young top shelf girls in one spot. Better than other clubs, FKKs, Strip clubs, etc. That we have been to that are still currently around.
The club is the most expensive of all the boates in Sao Paulo, but not that much more compared to other clubs or venues. Admission is R200 before 7 pm (and all day / night on Mondays I believe), with R150 of that consumption. After 7 pm, it is R400, with R200 of it being consumption. If you enter before 7 pm and pay the lower entry, you are welcome to leave the club and return later in the evening and you don't need to pay any additional entry. You just pay for whatever you consume. On nights with special musical acts, the admission can go up to R600 with R200 of it counted towards consumption.
Alcoholic drinks vary from R30 to R90 for most common stuff and R20-50 for non-alcoholic. The food cost is about 2 x that of a normal 3 to 4 star restaurant, but it is quite good, especially the Soups, Filet Mignon and Sushi.
What do you get for this higher entry, consumption and F&be prices? You get an elegant environment with ample space to mill around, smooze, dance, party, lounge or chill. Depending on your mood. For taking in a meal, they have a large restaurant with a long bar. They have a smaller outdoor patio for use during the day and a huge outdoor space that opens up at night, complete with fire pits and lots of seating. Their disco / club area opens up around 9-10 pm and has live musical acts.
I personally find the lighting in the restaurant a bit dark to judge how hot a girl is. The same can be said if the Disco / dance area, but the party lighting brightens things up sometimes. I prefer to see a girl in better lighting and the outdoor areas fits the bill perfectly. It is also more quiet so better place to sit down and chat with a girl. You can see what she really looks like and can more easily talk.
Most importantly, you get access to 100-150+ hot woman of all shapes and sizes to satisfy every taste. Most of the girls are light skinned and not many negras. Also almost no BBW and limited amount of Asians. Many of the girls speak capable to fluent English, as well as Spanish, French, German, Japanese or Korean! Many are very educated or have professional jobs and only do this part time, from lawyers, doctors, nurses, engineers, artists, dancers to models, etc. (I shagged at least one from each of those categories).
The girl's prices have ranged wildly within the last 12 months. When I first visited the club last year, one of the English speaking managers told me to expect the girls to ask for R300 to 400 per hour! I knew he was a bit off from reading the forms before my trip as ISG bros were posting that the girls were asking anywhere between for R500 to R800 for the hour and R1,000 to R2,000 for an overnight. With very light negotiating, my friends and I were all able to get them to agree to R400-600 per hour or R800 to R1,200 pernoite.
I've noticed that asking prices have increased a bit on my last few trips (Fall 2021 to Winter 2022) as compared to the first half not 2021. I'm getting a lot of opening offers of R800 to R1,000 for an hour to R1,500 to R2,500 for overnight. My friends and I were still able easily get most girls to come down to R500-R700 an hour or R1,000 to R1,200 for overnight, and we aren't exactly hard negotiators. With how quickly they came down in price I believe they were fishing for a rich and ignorant gringo with those opening offers or were starting at a price point to negotiate to the local market rate. Some really hot girls insisted on on R7-800 for an hour or R1,500 for overnight, which I felt was fair, as they were 9. 5's and near 10's in my book. I did bite on a couple of those and had no regrets as I received phenomenal service that matched their exceptional beauty.
There were a handful of girls that stuck hard to R1 k to R1. 5 k for the hour or R2 k to R3 k for overnight, and we just let them be. My friends and I did noticed that those that stuck to the high prices didn't do any rooms or leave with any clients that we saw, in the multiple days / nights that we were there. As the clientele is 90% to 95% locals (according to most of the girls I spoke to), they set the market rate. If the locals were not paying those high prices, and many of them are loaded and can afford to, I didn't feel the need to pay it either, especially when there are so much more hot fishes in the huge ocean that is Scandallo.
Finally, there is a room fee or exit fee. It is R230 per hour AR the hotel next door. I did that once and don't recall how the facilities are. I am sure it was clean and decent, but I prefer takeout to a more comfortable environment. To take a girl out of the club back to your place, a love hotel like LUSH, etc. Is R250.
You can charge the entrance fee, consumption, room fee and exit fee to your credit card without any markup. You can also charge what you will pay the girl to your CC, but there is a charge for that (not sure on the %.
Cafe Photo.
Av. Dos Bandeirantes, 1515 - Itaim Bibi, So Paulo. SP, 04553-010, Brazil.
I was here in November when they reopened and also in February. The place is very elegant like Scandallo, but much smaller. It is basically one open lounge space, with an S shaped bar at one end and a stage at another. There is also some tables upstairs and a dark outdoor smoking area. The space is probably 20% to 25% the size of Scandallo. The club is also located more in the city center so should be closer to your hotel / Airbnb than Scandallo or Connections.
Entrance is R350 and either R150 or R200 is counted towards consumption (I forget which) There is currently no exit or room fee, as the renovations on the hotel isn't complete.
The positive about this smaller place and layout is that most of the talent is within your line of sight / view so you can sit and see mostly everything. In Scandallo, you will have to roam and walk around from room to room, section to section, to see who is available at any given time. Cafe Photo is also more subdued and quiet so it is easier to have a conversation with a girl in the lounge. The lighting in the main lounge area is a bit dark, but brighter by the bar.
As the space is much smaller than Scandallo, so too are the amount of girls present. I've seen 30-50 girls during my visits and overall the quality optically were a little lower than Scandallo. I did see quite a some 8's and even a few 9's and 9. 5's, but as they are so few of them, they were usually occupied / taken by someone else.
The girls were asking prices similar or a little less than Scandallo so everything fits the theme of almost like Scandallo except for one big difference. The ambiance is similarly high end, the entry is a little less, the quality of the talent pool is a little less and the girl's price is a little less. However, the big negative is that the club has so many less girls than Scandallo that if you are picky like me, you can easily decide to leave and go to another club after spending 30-45 min here. With a lot fewer girls than Scandallo to choose from, you can easily leave empty handed, if all the hot ones are taken. That happened to me on multiple occasions, and paying R350 for a couple of drinks before going to another club is a tough pill to swallow.
Bomboa 222.
Are. Andr Gonalves, 40 - Itaim Bibi, So Paulo. SP, 04530-010, Brazil.
A favorite of locals, this place has a whiskeria feel. It reminds me a bit of 4 x4 in Rio and I found their food or be good and drinks to be strong. Entry is now R250, all consumption. I never did a room here sure on room fee and the one time I took a girl out, they didn't charge me an exit fee as I was leaving near closing time or the bouncer like me, as I tipped him on each of my trips. I just saw him wave to them to not charge me.
The space is about 1/2 the size of Cafe Photo, but they have an upstairs area with tables for eating and an outdoor smoking area. Upstairs is super quiet, while downstairs in the main area can be quite loud.
I found the talent here to be similar to clinica talent, with a few above that in the Scandallo range. I found prices for the girls to be just a tad less than Scandallo / Cafe Photo. I normally would skip this places if my friends didn't want to check it out or wanted a change of pace / venue. It also is a good spot to hit up for dinner and drinks and getting digits before going to Scandallo!
Connection Night Club.
Av. Dr. Eduardo Cotching, 1178 - Jardim Analia Franco, So Paulo. SP, 03356-001, Brazil.
This place is pretty far away from the city center. I first went there last year when local COVID restrictions / curfews forced Scandallo to close at 9:00 pm. A lot of the girls from Scandallo went to Connection to continue working. I believe entry was like R50 before 7 pm and R100 after.
The place has a disco area and bar just a little smaller than that of Scandallo and a dining and outdoor smoking area further back in the club. The place is usually very loud and you need to move to the back of the club to the restaurant or outdoor patio to talk.
The place was hopping the 1st two times I went there last year and had lots of hotties (60-90) that were more of a slutty, PSE with lots of fake Ts & As, with some sprinkling of cute GFE look. Now that the pandemic is more normalized and most restrictions are gone, the place isn't the same. Earlier this month, I saw about 30 girls and only 2-3 that interested me, but of course they were taken / occupied.
57 House Friend's Club.
Alameda dos Aics, 1293 - Moema, So Paulo. SP, 04086-003, Brazil.
This place is in the heart of Moema, surrounded by many popular clinicas. It operars as a clinica by day until 8 pm. Then it turns into a boate. There is a sizeable lounge area similar to Bomboa and a restaurant and pool table in the back. There is no admission, and you just pay for consumption. Exit fee is R200.
During the day when it is a clinica, you can ask for a presentation of lineup or just go into the lounge / restaurant to mingle with the girls. All the girls hang out in the open, unlike other clinicas where they are in their dressing room. If you see a girl you like, you can chat her up, buy her a drink, etc. The prices are preset Ike a clinica during the day. I think it is R250 per HR and some folks mention there is a reviewers special at R150.
The one time I went at night (Tuesday), I wasn't impressed. About 10 girls, but 1 was a hottie I had previously seen during the day. I've heard others say this place can sometimes be rocking at night after 9 pm, as some of the local clinica girls come there after their shift.
Lotus Club (Old Cafe Photo location?
Av. Pres. Juscelino Kubitschek, 373 - Itaim Bibi, So Paulo. SP, 04543-010, Brazil.
Went by here once in a Friday night at around 12 pm and it was super dead. The club is like a block away from Bomboa. I believe it was R300 entry with R150 consumption or just R200 entry with 0 consumption. The host knew it was super dead and warned me. She offered to show me around before I decide whether to stay or not.
The place just recently renovated and is modern and gorgeous. The size is similar to Cafe Photo with super high ceilings. Unfortunately, there were like only 3-5 girls so I told the host another time. My friends went there on another time on a Wednesday or Thursday night and it wasn't much better with around 8 to 10. Girls.
Just realized how long my post is getting so I will do a second post about Clinicas, places to eat, and good and bad experiences from my previous 7+ trips.
Great report. SocratesNY. We think alike in terms of girls and what we want on our time in SP.
Thanks for the restaurant list. Will try a few next time I am in SP.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2668985]Great report. SocratesNY. We think alike in terms of girls and what we want on our time in SP.
Thanks for the restaurant list. Will try a few next time I am in SP.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Same same. And double thanks for the restaurants. I def didn't grab the best ones last few visits. Def going to try these! And wow. Such comprehensive coverage. A real asset to the team!
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2668967]I stopped doing trip reports after my first 3 visits to SP from last year, but my lat 3-4 trips since then have been better and better so I figure I should share some of the adventures, observations and tips after my 6+ trips to Brazil in the last 12 months.
Just be aware that this is coming from the perspective of someone who visit SP for only 4 to 7 days per trip and has limited Portuguese knowledge, so time is my most precious commodity. I am not looking to spend the majority of my limited time trying to find diamonds in the rough at bargain basement prices. I don't play the normal long game that some of the locals or long-term residents play.
My goal each trip is to shag the hottest girls possible that I have good chemistry or connection with. English skills are definitely a plus as I like to take a girl out to dinner, and having to use Google translate in that environment isn't enjoyable or optimal. I don't mind paying top end prices, but also look for "value" within said venue. If I can get most of the hotter girls for a pernoite at a particular boate for R1,000 to R1,500, I ain't going to be plunking down R3,000 to some hottie looking to hustle a gringo at that same spot!.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed report! Any reason why you didn't go to Casarao? I know they opened back up not too long ago. It was my place to go before Covid.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2668964]
Kamna Spa.
Av. Moaci, 885 - Planalto Paulista, So Paulo. SP, 04083-002, Brazil.
Same as Enjoy above, but smaller roster.
[/QUOTE]Awesome and very detailed report. I just wanted to chime in that Kamna Spa is now SPA MOAH, owned by the owner of Indy Spa. I like SPA MOAH. The rooms are nicely renovated and the girls are GFE. The receptionist is super hot but too bad she is not available for fun in the room.
So I have traveled to Brazil twice in recent months. The below report is based on my first experience. I had this written up after my first trip and was going to add to it after my second trip then post it. But I got busy after returning back and never had the chance. I'the say everything below holds true for my second trip as well, I will add a few more things at the bottom which differ. Apologies in advance if the grammar is not perfect.
Flights: I had a connection before landing in Miami so my day of departure was definitely kinda long. Flew LATNAM from Miami to GRU. The flight was very light and had many empty seats. The whole row next to me was empty so I tried laying down and sleeping but couldn't because I can't sleep on flights. Took a quick nap but that was it. Oh well. For the overnight flights, they do provide dinner and breakfast. Smooth flight, had no issues.
Stay: I rented an airbnb in Moema based on previous advice from here. Absolutely the right decision for me. It's safe, there's like 3 grocery stores, mall and a bank with an ATM limit of up to 2,500 all within a 10 walk of my Airbnb. People talk about the airport nearby being an issue in terms of sleeping but it didn't me much. Yes it was noticeable once I was awake but it was rarely something that disrupted my sleep when I was sleeping. There was however construction near my airbnb which was annoying on some days. The best part about staying here is that many of the Moema clinicas may be walking distance for you just like it was for me. Since I did my visits mostly during day time around afternoons, there was no issues in terms of safety when walking. Generally, I don't think there's much of an issue regarding safety in this area unless you do something outrageous to attract it. Always maintain common sense of course.
Clinicas: I checked out the main clinicas in the Moema area. Prime, 57, Abbabora, Miruna, Enjoy. These were all walking distance from my airbnb so that's another advantage of staying in Moema. One clinica may not have anything that you find enticing so then you can just walk to the next one. If nothing then walk to the next one, so on and so forth. I session'the at 57 with a pretty morena by the name of Nataly. She was pretty with an average body, overall looks wise I'the give her a 7. This was an average session party because the girl wasn't much into kissing (big deal for me) and I also had jet lag issues since I session'the here on the same Thursday I landed in Brazil. Seession'the at Prime and Enjoy as well over the course of my trip and both were good sessions.
Boates: Went to Scandallo a 3-4 times. Did not session. There was a lot of girls but lot of the nights there was a ton of guys too. The ratios that people talk here of 6 girls to 1 guy and all seems far fetched honestly. Talked with a few girls but never got the right vibe from them to session. Picked up few numbers though. Went to Connection three times and session'the twice and honestly I could've session'the the third time too but I wasn't feeling it that night, it wasn't for a lack of prospects. First one was a 21 yr old morena with a cute face and really nice body. Really good session. Second one was an asian looking brazillians and really good sessions with her as well. I can't remember the exact price here but everything cheaper by Scandallo by like 200 reais. Really nice rooms and everything too. Only negative for Connection is that it's further away from even Scandallo so I can it not being worth the drive for some mongers. For me it is worth it though. Went to Bomboa twice. It's a nice idea, you basically eat nice food at a fancy looking restaurant and then there's all these girls walking around and you can take them and go bang them upstairs if you wish. Not a bad idea at all. But I went twice and didn't session here, didn't find any that are quite my type.
Online girls: I called over a girl from Barras site by the name of Amy and had an amazing session. She wasn't the prettiest (about a 6 there, not ugly) but had a really nice body that's about an 8. She was absolutely a nypho and a freak. She got me to bust 3 times in the span of an hour and a half and I'm not sure I've ever done that before in both my personal life and mongering activities. Did an overnight with her again later in the trip and again a great time! I saw another girl by the name of Valencia from Barra as well. I went to her location for this and she was decent in looks but the session I'the say was above average. Nothing crazy.
Update from second trip: So I finally session'the at Scandallo. It was a good looking blonde that looks a bit Russian-esque. She was short, maybe 5'2 with natural be cup tits. Name was Gabi. I loved that petite body style. She took me like a champ and was great in every which way. If anyone PMs I can send photo and whatsapp. Session was for 600 or 700 for the hour. I had very good luck at Connection again. Brunette, little bit thicker than Gabi but also natural be cup tits. Ended up clicking very well with her and did a few overnights with her for rest of the trip instead of venturing out. Even though it may not be everyone's tea, Connection is my favorite spot in São Paulo for hobbying as I've been able to find the type of girls that I'm into here with cool personalities and vibes as well.
Food: I think SocratesNY covered the restaurant scene very well in his report on this same page. I had the pleasure to dine with him at some of those places as well during our trips. I will add that for anyone who enjoys Mediterranean food, you should check out New Shawarma in Brás. It's not a super nice restaurant with great dine-in seating and such, it's basically just a fast food joint. But they make incredible shawarmas here and I'm a big fan of Mediterranean food and I have experience with it all over the world so if this is a cuisine you enjoy then I recommend checking this place out. Again, remember that it's just a fast food place so expect the restaurant amenities to be the same of that of a McDonalds or so but much better tasting food obviously. Also, if you haven't tried it yet then I recommend trying a coxinha and pao de qeijo when in Brazil. They have it everywhere at most Brazillian restaurants. The tiny restaurant near my hotel on my second stay had it and it was incredible. My overnight from Connection and I went here many times to eat. They also had a unique Brazillian mayo that comes with it which tastes great. I've had it a few times since coming to the states and it tastes great here as well but not quite as authentic. They also don't have the Brazillian mayo for it here at the places I've been to.
I visited Rio as well and will do a trip report there as well soon. I had the opportunity to meet a few posters from the forum here and definitely had a great time hanging out with them as well (bearsi, socratesny, msalad, dodochen, vagumundo etc). I also want to thank all posters on here for contributing with valuable information and experiences. This was my first trip out of the country myself and it was made possible because of the knowledge gained from here. Special shout out to SinfullyKorean, EverythingBlue, and Mr E as I had numerous back and forth PMs with these posters before my trip.
If you're reading this and have any type of question about Brazil, please feel free to quote and ask or PM and ask. I will do what I can to pay forward from my own experience. Again, this trip wouldn't have been possible fi it wasn't for the contributors on this forum. There are many I didn't name, but I'm very thankful for it all.
[QUOTE=Trojan22;2669138]So I have traveled to Brazil twice in recent months. The below report is based on my first experience. I had this written up after my first trip and was going to add to it after my second trip then post it. But I got busy after returning back and never had the chance. I'the say everything below holds true for my second trip as well, I will add a few more things at the bottom which differ. Apologies in advance if the grammar is not perfect.[/QUOTE]Very good report, Thanks for posting!
SocratesNY.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2668967]Sao Paulo Mongering Thoughts. Part 1[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2668964]Sao Paulo Mongering Thoughts. Part 2[/QUOTE]Very detailed and informative. I especially liked the Food Suggestions. This has already been placed in the Reports of Distinction and rightly so! Must read for all Newb's.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2668985]Great report. SocratesNY. We think alike in terms of girls and what we want on our time in SP.
Thanks for the restaurant list. Will try a few next time I am in SP.[/QUOTE]Auto correct by ISG forums omitted some letters due to ' on the letters, etc. ! I am sure most of you can figure that out.
But the most annoying autocorrection that I didn't catch was for my favorite restaurant in SP, which is:
DOM (dot Between each letter) - Celebrity chef Alex Atala's Michelin star flagship restaurant. The place and food is divine. I've been there on 3 occasions. It is one of only 3 or 4 places I've repeated in SP, as I want to try new places out. The other places that I have repeated at / or plan to repeat at are:
1) Figueira Rubaiyat -- Love this place for lunch / tapas. They also make great steaks.
2) BotaniKafe -- Jardins. My go to place for breakfast / brunch.
3) Jun Sakamoto -- he is just a sushi master. So precise!
Speaking of chef Alex Atala. He has a sister restaurant around the corner from DOM.
Dalva e Dito -- Serves traditional Brazilian food in a casual setting and more friendly on the wallet.
[QUOTE=Brsvv;2669053]Thanks for the detailed report! Any reason why you didn't go to Casarao? I know they opened back up not too long ago. It was my place to go before Covid.[/QUOTE]I had planned to check it out, but never got around to it as I am usually traveling with friends. They had been there and didn't think it was that great. They called it a mini-Bomboa that caters more to locals. I still might check it out in future trips just to cross it off my list.
They also known my taste in women (thin young and pretty gazelles) and lack of Porto so told me that hunting there probably not worth my time (or theirs as we were together).
If it wasn't for a change of pace, I wouldn't go to any other clubs besides Scandallo. All the other clubs I've been to are IMHO inferior in every way to Scandallo except cost. And I find the difference in cost to be so marginal that it is inconsequential.
My batting average at other clubs of taking a girl is between. 333 to. 500. Great for baseball, but not for mongering when you are paying R250 to R350 entry / consumption. There were many times that I basically had a $50 to $70 USD coca cola / Red Bull / beer at these other clubs and left after 30-45 min as I didn't see what I wanted. Before going to Scandalo.
At Scandallo, I am batting 1. 000.
[QUOTE=Brsvv;2669053]Thanks for the detailed report! Any reason why you didn't go to Casarao? I know they opened back up not too long ago. It was my place to go before Covid.[/QUOTE]SocratesNY.
Casarão is a little different from Scandallo and the other boates. It's a more club setting for those who like that, which includes me. My preference is also for young and thin spinners, less fake T&A. On my last trip, I only went to scandallo and casarao, and had great times at both. Scandallo definitely have multiples more girls who fit my preference but casarao is almost half the cost and has still have girls to fit any taste. You can also do 30 minutes rooms in casarao and do multiple sessions a night. If your preference is for pernoite, stick with scandallo especially if you have limited time and money is not a factor.
I think SocratesNY advice on treating girls with respect and kindness is spot on. Whatever your style and setting, if you are nice and appreciate the girls and do repeat sessions, you will find the GFE factor goes through the roof. It is so easy to "wife up" several girls.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2669574]auto correct > most annoying autocorrection that I didn't catch was for my favorite restaurant in SP, which is:
DOM (dot Between each letter) - Celebrity chef Alex Atala's Michelin star flagship restaurant. The place and food is divine. I've been there on 3 occasions. It is one of only 3 or 4 places I've repeated in SP, as I want to try new places out. The other places that I have repeated at / or plan to repeat at are:
3) Jun Sakamoto -- he is just a sushi master. So precise!
Speaking of chef Alex Atala. He has a sister restaurant around the corner from DOM. Dalva e Dito -- Serves traditional Brazilian food in a casual setting and more friendly on the wallet.[/QUOTE]Socrates, auto correct is a pain. I wish I could turn it off sometimes, but I knew you were talking about DOM. Great Restaurant! I also like Dalva e Dito. I like to go there for lunch. I also like your #7 "Barbacoa. Better Brazilian steakhouse than Fogo de Cho. " Yes, at the beginning of your meal a waiter comes by and asks how you like your steak prepared and after you tell him how you like it, that's all the wellness you are going to see. Great restaurant! Very high quality cuts and they don't skimp on the quantity.
I will have to try Jun Sakamoto. It sounds good. So far the only sushi I have had in SP was room service at the Renaissance during code red and the sushi platter that I ordered at Bomboa one night for a girl and myself and her friend. Ha Ha. She recommended it and she was not wrong. It was surprisingly pretty good!
I have also had great sushi in Barra the Tijuca, RJ at Nagayama and Shiso. I love good sushi, saki and the right girl.
Bon Appetit.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2669574]Auto correct by ISG forums omitted some letters due to ' on the letters, etc. ! I am sure most of you can figure that out.
But the most annoying autocorrection that I didn't catch was for my favorite restaurant in SP, which is:
DOM (dot Between each letter) - Celebrity chef Alex Atala's Michelin star flagship restaurant. The place and food is divine. I've been there on 3 occasions. It is one of only 3 or 4 places I've repeated in SP, as I want to try new places out. The other places that I have repeated at / or plan to repeat at are:
1) Figueira Rubaiyat -- Love this place for lunch / tapas. They also make great steaks.
2) BotaniKafe -- Jardins. My go to place for breakfast / brunch.
3) Jun Sakamoto -- he is just a sushi master. So precise!
Speaking of chef Alex Atala. He has a sister restaurant around the corner from DOM.
Dalva e Dito -- Serves traditional Brazilian food in a casual setting and more friendly on the wallet.[/QUOTE]Been to DOM and Jun Sakamoto on my earlier trips. I want to get to Casa do Porco maybe next time and the Korean restaurant but it all depends who is with me at the time.
Try out Taberna 474 if you are into fresh seafood.
The downside of a GF is they don't fuck as much on command as working girls.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2668660]I will say having a GF is fun.
When in Rome. When in Rio, having a hoar as a GF is something I would recommend for a while.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2669681]The downside of a GF is they don't fuck as much on command as working girls.[/QUOTE]Yes indeed, once they become comfortable, they try to skip it as much as possible, in favor of other activities. Hence, mongering is best.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2669681]The downside of a GF is they don't fuck as much on command as working girls.[/QUOTE]The downside of a GF is I get tired of them. By the 6th month I start to feel caged no matter how hot she is or what a great girl she was when I first fucked her.
Pre-modern age, having a GF and getting married made sense. Men married virgins from good families to raise families. Going to a bordello once a week or having a mistress if you could afford one was socially acceptable as long as the man looked after his family first. Suffragette ruined everything. LOL. All we mongers are doing nowadays is having a good time after our regular women have gone crazy.
[QUOTE=SocretesNY;2669574] Auto correct by ISG forums omitted some letters due to ' on the letters, etc. ! I am sure most of you can figure that out. ...[/QUOTE] Just a quick heads-up tip with auto correction, if your report contains "fancy" editing, notations or symbols, that it will most likely get overriden, in some weird way, try the following:
Once you've finalized your report in the ISG Message pad area, simply use, the following, before you upload your report:
[LIST] [b]"Ctrl-A" [/b] and then [b]"Ctrl-C" [/b], to Select / [b]COPY[/b] all text.[/LIST][LIST] Then press the [b]"Upload Report" [/b] button, to upload your report.[/LIST]
After it uploads, immediately use the [b]"Edit Post"[/b] button to bring back the report and;
[LIST] [b]"Ctrl-A" [/b] and then [b]"Ctrl-V" [/b], to Select / [b]PASTE[/b] the original version of your report[/LIST][LIST] Then press the [b]"Save Changes" [/b] button, to upload your report, again.[/LIST]
This should work about 98% of time and save MOST if not ALL of your original editing in your report.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2669681]The downside of a GF is they don't fuck as much on command as working girls.[/QUOTE]Along these lines, I have some funny stories to share this summer when I get back down to Rio! Did you turn off you PM? I tried sending you a message the other day with no luck.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2669739]Yes indeed, once they become comfortable, they try to skip it as much as possible, in favor of other activities. Hence, mongering is best.[/QUOTE]I been fucking the same "gringa branca" for two months now, and already I'm concerned about things falling into the routine LOL!
Show me a beautiful woman and I will show you a guy who is sick of fucking her.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2669755]The downside of a GF is I get tired of them. By the 6th month I start to feel caged no matter how hot she is or what a great girl she was when I first fucked her.
Pre-modern age, having a GF and getting married made sense. Men married virgins from good families to raise families. Going to a bordello once a week or having a mistress if you could afford one was socially acceptable as long as the man looked after his family first. Suffragette ruined everything. LOL. All we mongers are doing nowadays is having a good time after our regular women have gone crazy.[/QUOTE]
Dude,
I was fucking a tier 1 terma girl, best ass ever, and we were girlfriend / BF, even took me to her family for Christmas, and then of course, she comes over after her alcoholic mother and is so drunk she pukes all night and I take her puke to the shower. So of course we don't fuck that night. I would never tolerate that with a normal hooker pernoite, I would just get her an uber and throw her out. We did fuck in the morning, and it was always good, and I'd pay her weekly maybe, and we just fucked all the time. But the family. OMFG.
But she was a 18 year old that I would never be fucking in the normal rich world environment. And she brought all her stripper hoar friends over for reverse gang bang weekends including a coordinated Seal team 69 assault on the pool in which we shocked even the Brazilians with all the tits and ass.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2669799]I been fucking the same "gringa branca" for two months now, and already I'm concerned about things falling into the routine LOL![/QUOTE]
Do girls prefer / perform better in a 4 star hotel room vs an Airbnb flat? Hotel room is smaller than a flat but much nicer and fancier.
[QUOTE=NiceFirst;2670560]Do girls prefer / perform better in a 4 star hotel room vs an Airbnb flat? Hotel room is smaller than a flat but much nicer and fancier.[/QUOTE]I don't think it would matter as long as it is not a total dump. If it is too nice, they may not want to leave😜.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2668964]I had planned to hit boates at night and clinica during the day, but the pernoites were usually so good and lasted late into the morning or early afternoon that I had no energy or desire to hit up a clinica or check out online girls during the day.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you got great value for your money. About what time at night were you leaving the club with your girl for the evening into the following morning / afternoon?
"Governor João Doria (PSDB) is preparing to announce the end of the mandatory use of mask in open environments throughout the state of São Paulo starting next Wednesday (9). At first, the measure will also apply to parks and outdoor areas of bars and restaurants". [URL]https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrioesaude/2022/03/sp-deve-por-fim-a-obrigatoriedade-de-mascara-em-ambientes-abertos.shtml?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=comptw[/URL].
[QUOTE=TheCane;2670801]Sounds like you got great value for your money. About what time at night were you leaving the club with your girl for the evening into the following morning / afternoon?[/QUOTE]It varies. There are times we left at 9 pm and other times 1 or 2 am. There are other times we met at 5 or 6pm before we went out to dinner, although this usually was only with repeats.
Hello,
I will be on the ground in SP for the first time in a few days. I intend to have girls at my hotel from the escort websites as well as visiting girls that host from their own location. My question is when do they pay you? Before the services rendered or after?
Thanks,
TIG.
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2666856]Context: This was my first visit to Brazil with close to none Portuguese knowledge. I am just another guy out in late 30's and here to share my experience / report.
First things first, thank you! To this forum for amazing tips and recommendations. So here is my time to pay it back to the community.
I had lot of hassle in the flight departing USA (flight got cancelled 3 times) and I ended up reaching Brazil 15 hours later then originally expected. Despite all the hassle I was able to finally land to Brazil around midnight in Rio. Given this is SP forum, I will skip my Rio report (to be posted soon there in Rio group) So after 4 days in Rio, I took domestic flight from Rio - SP.
Landed SP around 4 ish.
Hotel:
- Hotel Grand Mercure So Paulo Ibirapuera. I'd recommend this hotel as it was GF and had no trouble navigating to other places in SP. I find that to be in safe neighborhood as well.
- Tip: Always check with hotel that if it is GF before booking AND also check how close the hotel is from Scandello (more on this later).
Mongering: From my RTFF on this forum, one thing I knew was Scandello is a place to be and it totally live to the hype.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your useful and nice report.
Some precisions about Hotel Grand Mercure São Paulo Ibirapuera? Dit they ask ID check or anything if your order escort through internet?
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2672075]Hello,
I will be on the ground in SP for the first time in a few days. I intend to have girls at my hotel from the escort websites as well as visiting girls that host from their own location. My question is when do they pay you? Before the services rendered or after?
Thanks,
TIG.[/QUOTE]Man, I must be doing it wrong, I'm usually the one paying the girls! LOL.
In all seriousness, this topic varies by location, but I think in Brazil a best practice is to pay at the end of the night, or end of the session. If a girl is pushy to get paid upfront, it might be a bad sign of bad service to come, or it might not be that way. If making a deal for a pernoite, sometimes it works if you pay half upfront and half after.
Me, I've always paid at the end unless the girl asks, which I've only had 2 ask upfront, I agreed and still had great service, but my instincts were things would be fine. YMMV. If I take a loss one time, to me it's not a deal breaker though.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2672075]Hello,
I will be on the ground in SP for the first time in a few days. I intend to have girls at my hotel from the escort websites as well as visiting girls that host from their own location. My question is when do they pay you? Before the services rendered or after?
Thanks,
TIG.[/QUOTE]I have always paid afterwards. If required to pay upfront, I offer half up front and the rest at the end. I am wary of paying anything up front. Doesn't mean the service will be bad. I have had bad service even with payment afterwards but hat is very rare.
[QUOTE=NiceFirst;2670560]Do girls prefer / perform better in a 4 star hotel room vs an Airbnb flat? Hotel room is smaller than a flat but much nicer and fancier.[/QUOTE]I too am curious about this. I will be arriving in 2 weeks and will probably rent Airbnb to save some. I am but a humble man with a fixed passive income and bid inflation is ultimately what drove me to get the hot-pocker Janssen vax. I have immunity anyway since I got delta quite badly last thanksgiving. I will probably go to Curitiba also.
[QUOTE=NiceFirst;2670560]Do girls prefer / perform better in a 4 star hotel room vs an Airbnb flat? Hotel room is smaller than a flat but much nicer and fancier.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2672234]I too am curious about this. I will be arriving in 2 weeks and will probably rent Airbnb to save some.[/QUOTE]The question or concern can't really be answered. You're proposing we have insight into the mind of the provider, specifically does a Mongers accommodations factor in the level of service. [B]Probably Not[/B] with the exception of Luxury Accommodations.
Probably the main factors that determine level of service:
[LIST]
- Your personality, hygiene, and looks, etc.
- How much are you paying and does that amount really satisfies their sense of worth for the session.
- Does the provider genuinely like you?
- Are you doing anything intrinsically (subjective) different from other Mongers?
- Could be other reasons but not really trying to account for all variables.[/LIST]
If the accommodations are equal or greater than what their use to and provide a level of safety and they are comfortable you should be ok. Now if you have luxury accommodation regardless of type only that could provide a slight (unquantifiable) enhancement remember all providers like luxury or the appearance of luxury.
To ponder anymore over this is futile.
[QUOTE=Khondjii;2672078]Thanks for your useful and nice report.
Some precisions about Hotel Grand Mercure So Paulo Ibirapuera? Dit they ask ID check or anything if your order escort through internet?[/QUOTE]Nop. Only thing is you need a keycard to operate elevator, so you have to come around front desk area to receive girl but no big deal to me.
Long time reader, first time poster (for Sao Paulo anyway, I had a nice streak going in the Shanghai forum some time ago).
Big thanks for all the reading and notes, this place is definitely great in terms of ease since it's not illegal and you don't have to deal with all the two-call bullshit and other nonsense in other parts of the world.
I am staying at the Renaissance, just here for a week. Tuesday night was coming back from a walk and on the phone and this fantastic looking woman was outside the hotel and clearly wanted to talk, but I hadn't figured things out yet and didn't engage. Maybe one night before I leave. But confirmation that they girls are here, although maybe not allowed inside (there is some big celebrity band staying here this week so security a bit tighter than normal).
Anyway, I looked for a clinica close enough to the hotel to make walking worthwhile, and settled on one spot that seemed to have 3 or 4 clinicas right next to each other. Av. Batataes, 558. I checked the spot on google maps street view but couldn't quite figure out where these would be, so I bravely wandered over around 9:00. Got to the spot and it's an apartment building with a restaurant on the ground floor. So a bit confused I looked around and got on the websites and picked the one called Massagem Mix. Whatsapp'd them and got a fairly quick response, offered there were two girls (Luana and Dani) and prices. Talked me past the front desk and up to their floor, and to the door. Dani answer the door, it's a small 2 bedroom apartment, two girls as advertised but no one else in the place.
I picked Luana as she was the smaller of the two. No English but didn't really require much communication. She left me in the room for a minute (simple setup with a chair and a bed) so I stripped and was ready when she came back. She smiled and got to it, dropped her (tiny) skirt and started with what can vaguely be referred to as a massage. Some lotion, bit of a handjob, then started BBBJ. I pulled her around for 69 and ate her ass for a while, which was awesome. Everything you want in a lovely bunda. She then grabbed a condom and offered, which I politely accepted. She put it on and saddled up, and that was that. Cleaned up a bit, got some water (covered in sweat, was hot and active). We tried to chat a bit, she had me flip and gave me more of a massage for a little while, and then asked if I wanted round 2. Being a gentleman, I again politely accepted her offer. Condom, doggie, pounded away but found number 2 quite elusive. So I took off the condom and got her on her knees and proceeded to FF her for some time. Perfect eye contact and just lovely, right in front of a mirror. Finished that way on her face and mouth, which she actually seemed to like (laughed a bit after we were done).
I gave her the payment and a bit extra (500, I'm aware that is a sizeable tip) but she put in the work and I enjoyed it.
So in summary. Not really a clinica, just a couple chicks in an apartment, but it was fine and a nice introduction to Sao Paulo for me. Probably not feeling another round tonight, but there is always tomorrow and I'll be back in a few weeks to try some other options. May yet try to pickup in the lobby, who knows.
[QUOTE=NiceFirst;2670560]Do girls prefer / perform better in a 4 star hotel room vs an Airbnb flat? Hotel room is smaller than a flat but much nicer and fancier.[/QUOTE]I wonder if sometimes AirBnb (or private apartment) would not be repulsive for girls? I mean, a hotel gives them a "guarantee of safety". Compared to a well known hotel room, will a girl accept an Airbnb invitation less? Especially if the girl doesn't know you well or you if invite her over the internet to your accommodation? Is that a factor?
My last trip was in 2018. I have been missing it greatly! Joao (RIP) introduced me to Tangara my first trip and I was hooked. I will be arriving on March 19 and returning to USA on April 3. However I have to work about 2 hours drive away on 21, 22, 23 and 28, 29.
I will be staying in Jardins or Moema so if any of you would like to meet, I will be there.
My experience was mostly the clinicas because of Joao. I did try one photoaccompanhantes which was one of the worst disasters I have experienced. The rest has been wonderful!
I have three girls who have kept in contact with me from the previous five visits. They are all excited to have me back so it will be interesting how my time goes.
[QUOTE=Khondjii;2672473]...Is that a factor?[/QUOTE]I don't know. Most apartments are pretty nice with doorman. Some apartments are built like a prison with double gates and security in tower so to speak. LOL.
Landed in Sao Paulo early in the morning after a long journey. Very tired and jet lagged still.
Some good and bad luck at the airport. They sent me to a trainee immigration officer who took at-least 15 minutes to stamp me through. Everyone else was breezing past me!
I went on to declare the cash I was bringing in (I had submitted the E-DBV form to customs before my trip and had a paper with me), walking through the "goods to declare" line I was totally prepared to be taken in to a room and asked questions with the money being counted etc. Lo and behold the guy took one look at the paper, signed and stamped it and off I went. Whole process took about 3 minutes. Didn't even bother to look at the cash.
Took an Uber to my hotel and got my room upgraded, lady at reception was kind enough to check me in early as well. Showered and went to a nearby cambio. They told me they are only allowed to exchange USD 1000 per day per exchange. Some bullshit exchange law. I could however go to multiple exchanges to exchange amounts over that.
Back to the hotel and off to sleep.
I wake up starving, order some very very expensive room service. (need to find local places to eat). Shower again and off to the mecca of our hobby. Scandallo!
Now my impressions of the place might be slightly scandalous.
Maybe it was a bad day generally, or the fact that it wasn't a weekend but I found the quality of the girls to not quite be as star studded as I had come to expect. Maybe my expectations were set too high or my standards. I don't know. I don't think I saw many above 7's. I few rare sprinkled 8's in my book. That was it.
Don't get me wrong 7's and 8's are good and I did sample a fine young girl in the room. She was good, tame in the club itself but very bubbly in the room. All was as expected not a bad experience at all but it did not blow my mind; maybe due to the short session. She spoke almost perfect English so that was a big reason why I chose her to get a lay of the land. I am calling her today whenever she wakes up which will probably be at like 4 pm LOL. I'm going to go around some parts of the city with her. My very own translator eh! I don't think I'm going to fuck her again though. I'll probably also want to meet her again in Scandallo tonight and ask her to introduce me to her friends or if I need help translating with someone. She's a nice friendly girl that way by the name of Gabriella.
Found out from her that a lot of Chinese and Koreans frequent Scandallo, on some days they make up 70% of the dudes in the room. Just an interesting tid bit.
Food was also very average LOL, ordered the breaded chicken with some kind of sauce. Maybe I just had a bad day at Scandallo. Still not making final judgements until I spend a few more nights with a wider variety of women.
The crowd in general had many Brazilian men who tend to get a little drunk and then very loud and handsy with the ladies. 3 of the girls there told me they don't prefer Brazilian men and generally gravitate towards Asian men.
The staff, security and waiters were all super friendly. Quite a few spoke English or enough words to get by. A surprising amount of women also spoke English. Some like Gabriella were near perfect in the language.
Paid 1 k to Gabi, 230 Real for the room and 555 Real while checking out. For that amount I had 2 waters, 1 orange juice, 1 Black Label with Coke, a pack of cigarettes with a lighter and a meal at the restaurant.
Another piece of very specific and random advice- when checking in to the rooms at Scandallo. Ask the lady at the counter to give large condoms. The small ones barely fit halfway and the well endowed gentlemen will tend to have an issue here.
Xx.
Woke up very early today due to jet lag. Had a hearty breakfast. I'm off now to another fucking cambio to exchange dollars. Very annoying.
I'd just like to thank everyone in the forum that answered questions and to all the members that have posted detailed reports and experiences in the past. Without those posts, I would never have come to SP or know how to do anything. Obrigado.
Will try and report again tomorrow when I have more to share. Please excuse any grammar or structural errors in the report.
You paid 1000 for 1 hour?
[QUOTE=Singe247;2673068]Landed in Sao Paulo early in the morning after a long journey. Very tired and jet lagged still.
Some good and bad luck at the airport. They sent me to a trainee immigration officer who took at-least 15 minutes to stamp me through. Everyone else was breezing past me!
I went on to declare the cash I was bringing in (I had submitted the E-DBV form to customs before my trip and had a paper with me), walking through the "goods to declare" line I was totally prepared to be taken in to a room and asked questions with the money being counted etc. Lo and behold the guy took one look at the paper, signed and stamped it and off I went. Whole process took about 3 minutes. Didn't even bother to look at the cash.
Took an Uber to my hotel and got my room upgraded, lady at reception was kind enough to check me in early as well. Showered and went to a nearby cambio. They told me they are only allowed to exchange USD 1000 per day per exchange. Some bullshit exchange law. I could however go to multiple exchanges to exchange amounts over that..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Singe247;2673068] ... Found out from her that a lot of Chinese and Koreans frequent Scandallo, on some days they make up 70% of the dudes in the room. Just an interesting tid bit. ... [/QUOTE] Good update thus far, keep 'em coming!
[i]So do you recall if your date, Gabriella, thought the number of Chinese and Koreans frequenting Scandallo, is a recent thing or always been that way?[/i]
Just curious and was wondering, if our Chinese and Korean mongering brothers are perhaps shifting their activities from places like the AC in the Philippines and perhaps temporarily focusing on giving Brazil more of a spin?
70% is super exaggerated. 20% is the ceiling and that's on a rare day.
It's not Chinese / Korean or whatever race that they like. Its the money that they like and they know they can get more from Asians and foreigners. Girls at Scandallo are there for the money 100% and don't care how famous and like-able the client is. If the price is right for them. You win. They always tell me how much they like me and how good looking I am. And I know for sure they are lying! LOL.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2673204]Good update thus far, keep 'em coming!
[i]So do you recall if your date, Gabriella, thought the number of Chinese and Koreans frequenting Scandallo, is a recent thing or always been that way?[/i]
Just curious and was wondering, if our Chinese and Korean mongering brothers are perhaps shifting their activities from places like the AC in the Philippines and perhaps temporarily focusing on giving Brazil more of a spin?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spidy;2673204]Good update thus far, keep 'em coming!
[i]So do you recall if your date, Gabriella, thought the number of Chinese and Koreans frequenting Scandallo, is a recent thing or always been that way?[/i]
Just curious and was wondering, if our Chinese and Korean mongering brothers are perhaps shifting their activities from places like the AC in the Philippines and perhaps temporarily focusing on giving Brazil more of a spin?[/QUOTE]There is a large Asian community in SP, mostly Japanese and Chinese. You will see groups of local Asian men in Scandallo. They live in Brazil and maybe even born in Brazil. I would say the large majority of Asian men in Scandallo are local. I met a few Asian guys from the US. Maybe in the past there were travelers from Asia, but since COVID I have not met an Asian monger from Asia in SP due to the travel restrictions on leaving and returning to those countries.
[QUOTE=Singe247;2673068]Now my impressions of the place might be slightly scandalous.
Maybe it was a bad day generally, or the fact that it wasn't a weekend but I found the quality of the girls to not quite be as star studded as I had come to expect. Maybe my expectations were set too high or my standards. I don't know. I don't think I saw many above 7's. I few rare sprinkled 8's in my book. That was it.[/QUOTE]Scandallo is great because of the classy atmosphere of being surrounding by hundreds of beautiful girls who you spend time with and then take to the room with usually great service. Very few places in the world you can still do this. Scandallo girls come in different sizes and flavors so there are usually girls for all preferences. But they may not be most gorgeous girls that SP has to offer. Some online escort girls are hot. From your budget, sound like you prefer very high end escorts. The next level in SP are the pink sheet girls who are the models, TV personalities and influencers who Command a much higher fee than scandallo. They are word of mouth and you have to be introduced. I haven't been introduced but I am not sure they are worth it. I wouldn't mind trying it though, so if anybody knows a way of introduction, PM me please!
I'm seasoned enough from my AMP adventures in the Pacific. I'm not necessarily looking for the same thing but are there any specific clinicas with an Oriental lineup?
I see SP has a large Japa population and there's no shortage of Acompanhantes. I want a double with 2 Japas / hapas since I felt robbed of that living in Hawaii where the top tier of local hotties are Porta / Jap / White mixes (Hapa-proper) but these days are only a tiny percentage of the population. Most of the females local to Hawaii look like oompa loompa rejects. I hated living there but at least I had AMPS and 19 yo mahus! Everything else there sucks.
If there's a cheap hotel guys lmk otherwise I've got to book an Airbnb soon. Arrive the 23rd and might try to stay in Brasil around 60 days before going to Colombia.
[QUOTE=Khondjii;2672473]I wonder if sometimes AirBnb (or private apartment) would not be repulsive for girls? I mean, a hotel gives them a "guarantee of safety". Compared to a well known hotel room, will a girl accept an Airbnb invitation less? Especially if the girl doesn't know you well or you if invite her over the internet to your accommodation? Is that a factor?[/QUOTE]If you met the girl at a boate or you have previously sessions with you, she wouldn't care if you are a hotel or apartment. Some online girls only do hotels or motels. 95% of the scene are locals, so it's usually their apartments or love motels for out calls. If you go for an Airbnb, get a nice one with a concierge desk for safety (for girl and you). There are many to choose from and ch4kc the visitor policy.
[QUOTE=LionsNTigers;2672467]Anyway, I looked for a clinica close enough to the hotel to make walking worthwhile, and settled on one spot that seemed to have 3 or 4 clinicas right next to each other. Av. Batataes, 558. I checked the spot on google maps street view but couldn't quite figure out where these would be, so I bravely wandered over around 9:00. Got to the spot and it's an apartment building with a restaurant on the ground floor. So a bit confused I looked around and got on the websites and picked the one called Massagem Mix. Whatsapp'd them and got a fairly quick response, offered there were two girls (Luana and Dani) and prices. Talked me past the front desk and up to their floor, and to the door. Dani answer the door, it's a small 2 bedroom apartment, two girls as advertised but no one else in the place.[/QUOTE]Batataes 558 is not a clinica but a Girl friendly large apt building with several massage places in apartments and has a bunch of online girls in apartments. Try a real Clinica in moema. Search for moema Clinica, someone recently made a nice list of them. There are clinicas spread out around SP and in Jardins also near you.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2673204]Good update thus far, keep 'em coming!
[i]So do you recall if your date, Gabriella, thought the number of Chinese and Koreans frequenting Scandallo, is a recent thing or always been that way?[/i]
Just curious and was wondering, if our Chinese and Korean mongering brothers are perhaps shifting their activities from places like the AC in the Philippines and perhaps temporarily focusing on giving Brazil more of a spin?[/QUOTE]I doubt they are from Asia. My guess is most are local Japanese. There are some Chinese but if you look at the food influence and the restaurants, Chinese don't have the presence like Japanese. It is not the Asian mongering places are closed. It is that they lock themselves in. Many have to quarantine when the go home. Let's hope they keep it that way. LOL.
So continuing from the previous post, woke up very early (should be my last day of jet lag hopefully) and went off to exchange after breakfast.
On the way to the cambio I've been going to, I noticed there was a Santander a block away. Made a mental note to carry my card next time to withdraw cash there as well. I was hoping to spot a ATM in Scandallo, no luck.
So didn't do much during the day after I got back. Just sat down with work which lasted most of the day. I did want to call Gabi to my hotel for a fuck or 3. She finally messaged much later in the day that she wouldn't be able to come to me before 8 pm. Fuck that. I also asked if she would be willing to bareback. Sent her a scan of my report. Hard NO! Very rare that this happens but I understand so didn't push it.
By the evening, I'm tired from a combination of working and jet lag. This exhaustion is really fucking my game here!
Anyways I like to reach around 10-10:30 PM.
Things are slightly better LOL. Maybe spot a few more 8's tonight (and one drop dead banging 10/10- more on this later). Compared to the day before, a lot of them didn't seem to speak English today or at-least the ones I was talking to. Many uninteresting birds walked up to me and asked me if we could speak on translator. I just politely said that I'm still looking around which they didn't understand of course so they just walk away.
My tiredness at this point is starting to give me thoughts about walking away and calling it a night. Just when this light skinned big booty girl by the name of Jessica walks up to me. First girl who could speak broken English tonight, she ain't no Gabi but this will do.
She wanted 1500 for an hour! I paid 800. She told me she does everything and will make my head explode. I specifically asked her all the usual questions. BBBJ, how many loads, etc. Before we went off to the rooms.
She wasn't very wrong in the head exploding bit, she knew what she was doing. Fantastic blowjob and a great passionate fuck. I think that was my first taste of that Brazilian energy and passion everyone on here keeps talking about. I want more! But sadly that was it. She wouldn't fuck again! I told her we had agreed to two shots. She said we can only do one. WTF, but honestly I didn't argue. Its not worth the hassle to me and I was on the verge of passing out from exhaustion anyway.
So another mixed day for me in SP. I'm confident things will get better as I keep going. I feel like I need a girl with the friendly girl next door kind of vibe like Gabi, performance like Jessica while looking a lot better than both of them. (tall order, I know).
The irony here fellow mongers is that while waiting outside for my Uber, a Range Rover pulls up and 2 dudes and 1 absolute angel step out of the car. A banger in my books. Now I don't know if she was a civilian with one of the men or an escort. She was certainly dressed as an escort. But my god, tall, buxom, perfect features and she was speaking English to boot! What I wouldn't give.
Some observations -.
I have noticed more of a crowd comes in later. Like after midnight.
Ate some sushi at the restaurant, it wasn't very good. I feel like I'm starting to sound very picky here but honest to god it was horrible.
While checking out, the cashiers were flooded with what seemed like Japanese men (from the language they were speaking) taking usually thin white girls back to their hotels.
I was approached with an offer for a threesome twice. All four girls here didn't speak english. It would have been a disaster had I accepted their proposal I think.
I was curious while leaving Scandallo yesterday, about the DJ / Club Area. I was wondering what one of the VIP tables along the sides there costs? Will ask when I go tonight. Not much of a drinker but still nice to know.
Will report more tomorrow, should be firing on all cylinders from here on out. Will try and session with multiple women at Scandallo tonight to find a better fit.
Yes, I agree. Don't seem to be more than 20% of the crowd. 70 is just what the bird said.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2673225]70% is super exaggerated. 20% is the ceiling and that's on a rare day.
It's not Chinese / Korean or whatever race that they like. Its the money that they like and they know they can get more from Asians and foreigners. Girls at Scandallo are there for the money 100% and don't care how famous and like-able the client is. If the price is right for them. You win. They always tell me how much they like me and how good looking I am. And I know for sure they are lying! LOL.[/QUOTE]
You hit the nail on the head sama. I prefer eastern European features with mongering in Russia and Dubai being my favorites. You can get supermodels in both countries if the budget is right. Not sure will be able to crack SP pink sheet this time around. Would love to try if given a chance for sure.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2673366]Scandallo is great because of the classy atmosphere of being surrounding by hundreds of beautiful girls who you spend time with and then take to the room with usually great service. Very few places in the world you can still do this. Scandallo girls come in different sizes and flavors so there are usually girls for all preferences. But they may not be most gorgeous girls that SP has to offer. Some online escort girls are hot. From your budget, sound like you prefer very high end escorts. The next level in SP are the pink sheet girls who are the models, TV personalities and influencers who Command a much higher fee than scandallo. They are word of mouth and you have to be introduced. I haven't been introduced but I am not sure they are worth it. I wouldn't mind trying it though, so if anybody knows a way of introduction, PM me please![/QUOTE]
I think it is a YMMV situation even at Scandallo. That is why I tell others to lower their exceptions after I have been there.
Logic will tell you it is unlikely that it is full of high quality girls that satisfy everyone. Scandallo has higher percentage of higher quality girls relatively speaking. You are not going to find the place full of university girls but you are more likely to find them here than elsewhere, that is the way I look at it and what one should keep in mind when reading reports. The reports are true in that they report one's personal experience but it may not be the same for you.
[QUOTE=Singe247;2673068]...Paid 1 k to Gabi...[/QUOTE]I would tell them my friend told me it's 500 and see how they respond.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2673371]Batataes 558 is not a clinica but a Girl friendly large apt building with several massage places in apartments and has a bunch of online girls in apartments. Try a real Clinica in moema. Search for moema Clinica, someone recently made a nice list of them. There are clinicas spread out around SP and in Jardins also near you.[/QUOTE]Roger that, will be back in a few weeks and am planning to go to Prime in Moema, the hardest part is timing. Often not leaving work until after 6, hour commute in the city at that time, and then if I have dinner with the team I am not out until 8:30 earliest.
I know Prime closes at 9:00, can I show up at 8:45 and still session? I tried whatsapping their number but didn't get a response.
So for my last night in Sao Paulo this week I finished dinner too late to head to a real clinica like I wanted, so I stuck around the hotel and hung out in the lobby to finish some calls and emails and check the scene. There were a few working girls making conversation or just sitting trying to make eye contact. I saw a few make their way to rooms and was kind of dialing in on a decision when this girl walks through who was fucking stunning, like I assumed she was there with the other Eurotrash on vacation. Stunning outfit, skinny, beautiful, didn't look the part at all. She sat in a spot at the bar that I couldn't see her so I thought she just walked through and left, wasn't until quite a bit later I saw her parked at the bar waiting like the others.
She had ordered some food and I decided to wait until she was done, getting close to 10:30 when she finally finished. She started to move around the lobby a bit and I was just about to sit down to talk with her when one of my colleagues pulled up in the taxi so I had to make a story why I was down there, and she tucked in with a group of brits. So I sat kind of nearby until that finished and she came and sat near me, so I started the conversation. No English on her side, had to use the translator but that was fine. Made some stupid small talk that quickly transferred to an offer to "make the quarto" which confused the hell out of me, but she set me straight. She started at 2000, which I said I have 700, and she went for 1000, so I said fuck it and agreed (recognize it's a bit over market).
So we headed upstairs and she showered and did her thing, came out in an incredible little outfit (black one piece thing that covered little and accentuated everything, lots of straps and ties, turned her into a little Christmas present). She was something, just a tiny thing but fit and toned and all kinds of right. Got on the bed and explored a bit, I got to unwrapping my present and eating every inch of that body. She wasn't super into it herself but went along with everything, no kissing though which was a disappointment. Eventually pulled out the hat and got on top where I gave her the best 60 seconds of her life.
Finished up and cleaned up a little and she snuggled in and we went to sleep. Unfortunately just an awful night's sleep (not because of her, it was just too hot in the room and I had an early flight to catch so never got rested) but really enjoyed sleeping spooned up and intertwined with that hot little body. She was really sweet and adorable. Woke up around 5:30 and started to play with her a little, sadly she shut that down and decided to get up and leave.
So overall like a 7/10 experience, checked the box in a big way for some aspects, but missed the boat on others. I did get her WhatsApp number and have chatted briefly, but not sure I will contact her again or not. Body and beauty were a solid, world class 9/10 so there is that.
Advice from the experts here. Is a future visit likely to be better form building on the history, or probably more of the same? I won't have much luxury to take her to dinner and won't be here on a weekend.
[QUOTE=Singe247;2673481]So didn't do much during the day after I got back. Just sat down with work which lasted most of the day. I did want to call Gabi to my hotel for a fuck or 3. She finally messaged much later in the day that she wouldn't be able to come to me before 8 pm. Fuck that. I also asked if she would be willing to bareback. Sent her a scan of my report. Hard NO! Very rare that this happens but I understand so didn't push it.
Anyways I like to reach around 10-10:30 PM.
Things are slightly better LOL. Maybe spot a few more 8's tonight (and one drop dead banging 10/10- more on this later). Compared to the day before, a lot of them didn't seem to speak English today or at-least the ones I was talking to. Many uninteresting birds walked up to me and asked me if we could speak on translator. I just politely said that I'm still looking around which they didn't understand of course so they just walk away.
Some observations -.
I was curious while leaving Scandallo yesterday, about the DJ / Club Area. I was wondering what one of the VIP tables along the sides there costs? Will ask when I go tonight. Not much of a drinker but still nice to know.
Will report more tomorrow, should be firing on all cylinders from here on out. Will try and session with multiple women at Scandallo tonight to find a better fit.[/QUOTE]Try to negotiate the bareback in person at Scandallo instead, be ready to walk away if this is a big deal to you, but you can find girls willing to do it. Your reports remind me of my first trip and visits to Scandallo, I was also not impressed initially, but eventually got to enjoy it more and I fared better on my second trip.
Let us know about the VIP tables, I was also curious about that. As far as English speaking girls, IMO I would stay away from that, usually those girls are more traveled and thus expect a higher wage for less service, they are jaded in some ways and thus not as enthusiastic.
I appreciate the reports, it inspires me to try to make my way back soon.
[QUOTE=LionsNTigers;2673510]
She had ordered some food and I decided to wait until she was done, getting close to 10:30 when she finally finished. She started to move around the lobby a bit and I was just about to sit down to talk with her when one of my colleagues pulled up in the taxi so I had to make a story why I was down there, and she tucked in with a group of brits. So I sat kind of nearby until that finished and she came and sat near me, so I started the conversation. No English on her side, had to use the translator but that was fine. Made some stupid small talk that quickly transferred to an offer to "make the quarto" which confused the hell out of me, but she set me straight. She started at 2000, which I said I have 700, and she went for 1000, so I said fuck it and agreed (recognize it's a bit over market).
So we headed upstairs and she showered and did her thing, came out in an incredible little outfit (black one piece thing that covered little and accentuated everything, lots of straps and ties, turned her into a little Christmas present). She was something, just a tiny thing but fit and toned and all kinds of right. Got on the bed and explored a bit, I got to unwrapping my present and eating every inch of that body. She wasn't super into it herself but went along with everything, no kissing though which was a disappointment. Eventually pulled out the hat and got on top where I gave her the best 60 seconds of her life.
Finished up and cleaned up a little and she snuggled in and we went to sleep. Unfortunately just an awful night's sleep (not because of her, it was just too hot in the room and I had an early flight to catch so never got rested) but really enjoyed sleeping spooned up and intertwined with that hot little body. She was really sweet and adorable. Woke up around 5:30 and started to play with her a little, sadly she shut that down and decided to get up and leave.
So overall like a 7/10 experience, checked the box in a big way for some aspects, but missed the boat on others. I did get her WhatsApp number and have chatted briefly, but not sure I will contact her again or not. Body and beauty were a solid, world class 9/10 so there is that.
Advice from the experts here. Is a future visit likely to be better form building on the history, or probably more of the same? I won't have much luxury to take her to dinner and won't be here on a weekend.[/QUOTE]This is at the Renaissance? Haha I never ventured to try taking a girl upstairs myself but saw relatively good talent frequently. I'm surprised about the no kissing, and she spent the night with you but only allowed you to fuck once? WTH. Maybe she stayed because she lived far and didn't want to go home at that time. At least she got the best 60 seconds of her life, LOL that made me chuckle.
Thanks for your report, great story telling.
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2673613]This is at the Renaissance? Haha I never ventured to try taking a girl upstairs myself but saw relatively good talent frequently. I'm surprised about the no kissing, and she spent the night with you but only allowed you to fuck once? WTH. Maybe she stayed because she lived far and didn't want to go home at that time. At least she got the best 60 seconds of her life, LOL that made me chuckle.
Thanks for your report, great story telling.[/QUOTE]Yes, sorry it was the Renaissance in Jardins, and the girl's name is Leticia. I thought I put a dash in the title but I guess I missed it.
Didn't want to add to the confusion.
She didn't live far, I uber'd her home in the morning and it was a short ride, like 10 minutes. I probably won't repeat, I'm a variety guy anyway, even in my US locations I have only done repeaters a couple times. That is why the clinicas appeal to me, they sound similar (though better) than the massage places in Shanghai. The boates sound a bit like the saunas that used to predominate there, although those saunas were awesome, they seem mostly gone now.
I strongly concur with señor Everythingblue! I think his is advice is spot on about avoiding the pros who speak English with a high proficiency. Not only do they tend to quote higher prices for their gringo clients but the ones who have traveled to Europe for "work" are oftentimes noticeably more hardened from being in the industry for such a lengthy tenure that they do eventually become a bit jaded and perform more mechanical in bed. This is just my experience. I've got one rule that I never stray from and that's if a garota speaks English or mentions having previously traveled to Europe at some point then I run for the hills. YMMV.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2673225] 70% is super exaggerated. 20% is the ceiling and that's on a rare day. It's not Chinese / Korean or whatever race that they like. Its the money ... [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SamRiding;2673358] There is a large Asian community in SP, mostly Japanese and Chinese... I would say the large majority of Asian men in Scandallo are local. I met a few Asian guys from the US.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nounce;2673469] I doubt they are from Asia. My guess is most are local Japanese. There are some Chinese but if you look at the food influence and the restaurants, Chinese don't have the presence like Japanese...[/QUOTE]Yes, I am definitely aware of SP having the largest Japanese diaspora outside of Japan and have reported on this several times. The Asian men in the conversation with Gabriella specifically mentioned Chinese and Korean, and thought perhaps this could be an interesting trend to watch.
Thanks to all for the clarifying and I appreciate varying views and opinions. Definitely gives me a more robust picture of the Asian influences at Scandallo.
[QUOTE=LionsNTigers;2673510]So for my last night in Sao Paulo this week I finished dinner too late to head to a real clinica like I wanted, so I stuck around the hotel and hung out in the lobby to finish some calls and emails and check the scene. There were a few working girls making conversation or just sitting trying to make eye contact. I saw a few make their way to rooms and was kind of dialing in on a decision when this girl walks through who was fucking stunning, like I assumed she was there with the other Eurotrash on vacation. Stunning outfit, skinny, beautiful, didn't look the part at all. She sat in a spot at the bar that I couldn't see her so I thought she just walked through and left, wasn't until quite a bit later I saw her parked at the bar waiting like the others.
She had ordered some food and I decided to wait until she was done, getting close to 10:30 when she finally finished. She started to move around the lobby a bit and I was just about to sit down to talk with her when one of my colleagues pulled up in the taxi so I had to make a story why I was down there, and she tucked in with a group of brits. So I sat kind of nearby until that finished and she came and sat near me, so I started the conversation. No English on her side, had to use the translator but that was fine. Made some stupid small talk that quickly transferred to an offer to "make the quarto" which confused the hell out of me, but she set me straight. She started at 2000, which I said I have 700, and she went for 1000, so I said fuck it and agreed (recognize it's a bit over market).
So we headed upstairs and she showered and did her thing, came out in an incredible little outfit (black one piece thing that covered little and accentuated everything, lots of straps and ties, turned her into a little Christmas present). She was something, just a tiny thing but fit and toned and all kinds of right. Got on the bed and explored a bit, I got to unwrapping my present and eating every inch of that body. She wasn't super into it herself but went along with everything, no kissing though which was a disappointment. Eventually pulled out the hat and got on top where I gave her the best 60 seconds of her life.
Finished up and cleaned up a little and she snuggled in and we went to sleep. Unfortunately just an awful night's sleep (not because of her, it was just too hot in the room and I had an early flight to catch so never got rested) but really enjoyed sleeping spooned up and intertwined with that hot little body. She was really sweet and adorable. Woke up around 5:30 and started to play with her a little, sadly she shut that down and decided to get up and leave.
So overall like a 7/10 experience, checked the box in a big way for some aspects, but missed the boat on others. I did get her WhatsApp number and have chatted briefly, but not sure I will contact her again or not. Body and beauty were a solid, world class 9/10 so there is that.
Advice from the experts here. Is a future visit likely to be better form building on the history, or probably more of the same? I won't have much luxury to take her to dinner and won't be here on a weekend.[/QUOTE]Doesn't surprise me one bit. Something similar happened to me at the Ren also.
I had my fill for the weekend but had a few hours to kill before my flight back home. So went down to the bar to use up the free drink and snack chits they gave out because the lounge was closed. Saw a hot girl sitting by herself and she kept smiling over at me. Knew she was a working girl so I was like "what the hell. Get one last one in before the flight. " We started talking and agreed to 400 for an hour which included everything. Go up to the room and she changes in the bathroom. She says lay down to offer me a massage and I was like ok. I am not into massages so I turn over after a bit and pull her down to kiss and she says she doesn't do that. The 400 was for a massage and a CBJ. Started to laugh and told her to get the fuck out. She said I owed her some money since she came up. I told her get the fuck out or I call security.
Out she went, I packed up my shot and walked downstairs to check out. Sure enough she is still at the bar and now has a ok gringo guy in her trap. I guess these girls think that due to translation, they can pull that sort of shit.
Never talked to another one at the hotel bar again.
“The state of São Paulo is moving to end the mandatory use of a mask also in closed environments on the 23rd of this month. Governor plans to take action before leaving office at the end of March.” [URL]https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrioesaude/2022/03/doria-diz-que-acabara-com-uso-de-mascara-em-sp-daqui-a-11-dias.shtml?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=comptw[/URL].
[QUOTE=OJeito;2673621]I strongly concur with seor Everythingblue! I think his is advice is spot on about avoiding the pros who speak English with a high proficiency. Not only do they tend to quote higher prices for their gringo clients but the ones who have traveled to Europe for "work" are oftentimes noticeably more hardened from being in the industry for such a lengthy tenure that they do eventually become a bit jaded and perform more mechanical in bed. This is just my experience. I've got one rule that I never stray from and that's if a garota speaks English or mentions having previously traveled to Europe at some point then I run for the hills. YMMV.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Anaggie;2673624]Doesn't surprise me one bit. Something similar happened to me at the Ren also.
I had my fill for the weekend but had a few hours to kill before my flight back home. So went down to the bar to use up the free drink and snack chits they gave out because the lounge was closed. Saw a hot girl sitting by herself and she kept smiling over at me. Knew she was a working girl so I was like "what the hell. Get one last one in before the flight. " We started talking and agreed to 400 for an hour which included everything. Go up to the room and she changes in the bathroom. She says lay down to offer me a massage and I was like ok. I am not into massages so I turn over after a bit and pull her down to kiss and she says she doesn't do that. The 400 was for a massage and a CBJ. Started to laugh and told her to get the fuck out. She said I owed her some money since she came up. I told her get the fuck out or I call security..[/QUOTE]All fine points. Seems like google translate can be man's best wingman. A soon as I get out of the airport I need to go to the mall where I here the Tim store will give you a sim card using your passport ID.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2673639]The state of So Paulo is moving to end the mandatory use of a mask also in closed environments on the 23rd of this month. Governor plans to take action before leaving office at the end of March. [URL]https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrioesaude/2022/03/doria-diz-que-acabara-com-uso-de-mascara-em-sp-daqui-a-11-dias.shtml?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=comptw[/URL].[/QUOTE]That would be wonderful to coincide with my arrival. I booked Ibis Ibirapuera for 5 nights, location looks unbeatable and it was the most affordable option, hopefully there's no exorbitant cleaning fee. Booked for 2 of course. I'm considering going to Rio after, or Curitiba for my long awaited Gaucha safari.
[QUOTE=LionsNTigers;2673500]Roger that, will be back in a few weeks and am planning to go to Prime in Moema, the hardest part is timing. Often not leaving work until after 6, hour commute in the city at that time, and then if I have dinner with the team I am not out until 8:30 earliest.
I know Prime closes at 9:00, can I show up at 8:45 and still session? I tried whatsapping their number but didn't get a response.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately not. Things start closing down around 7-8 pm. Most girls are leaving by then or are in rooms for the last sessions. There is one late night Clínica which I haven't tried. I believe it's 300 r per hour.
Savanas CLínica de Massagem.
+55 11 3051-8512.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/HHvdfG2sthohtaCX7[/URL]
As much discussed, you can try Scandallo. Or get an online girl at SPLove or Clubmodel.
[QUOTE=OJeito;2673621]I strongly concur with seor Everythingblue! I think his is advice is spot on about avoiding the pros who speak English with a high proficiency. Not only do they tend to quote higher prices for their gringo clients but the ones who have traveled to Europe for "work" are oftentimes noticeably more hardened from being in the industry for such a lengthy tenure that they do eventually become a bit jaded and perform more mechanical in bed. This is just my experience. I've got one rule that I never stray from and that's if a garota speaks English or mentions having previously traveled to Europe at some point then I run for the hills. YMMV.[/QUOTE]I said something similar 10 years ago LOL. Avoid ones that have been to the US and Dubai.
Also most are honest about how long they've been working when asked.
50% had no father, 50% have kid (s) in their teens but the MILFS seems to perform better.
Things are looking up on my adventures.
Woke up at the right time for a change. Went off to the exchange I usually go to which is SP Mundi Cambio. Very friendly and professional people.
Closed! LOL, went to a Bradesco bank a street away, CLOSED! Should have done my research before heading out, everything is closed on weekends. Maybe I did read it on the forum but don't remember.
During the day, while at the hotel I contacted a girl from one of the websites online. Super pretty and had a few reviews on gpguia. So booked her to come to me the next day. More on her in the next report.
Headed to Scandallo at around 10 pm. Really feeling it today, much more energy.
Less crowded. The security guys are super chill and helpful, since I've been going 3 days on the trot; they now recognize me and shake my hand. I find it quite funny, one of them casually told me on entering " you take 3 pussy today, its better than 1 pussy".
Had some kind of Brazilian meaty dish at the restaurant, it was good!
So back at the bar area again, smoking cigarettes, looking around. I've become a chimney since I've come to SP.
I find that a lot of the girls here are just slightly over their prime. I mean you would look at one and think damn she must have been a smoke show even a few years ago. But now I can see the age on their faces the closer I get to them. These girls are usually busty and bursting from all angles. A lot of silicone, a lot of facial fillers and Botox faces on display. Some how that just don't float my boat.
Then there's another category of girls here, very petite, usually white, and cute. No ass or tits and the Asian men are all over them like bees to honey. One girl told me she dresses in certain outfits just to make her more attractive to these men. There was a girl walking around in a school girl outfit with glasses on. I did fancy one of them, but right as I was approaching her she got scooped up by a dude.
I have also realized I just sub-consciously prefer girls that speak English. Maybe there is a better connect for me. I find it very cumbersome to keep typing on a translator app on the phone. It breaks the natural flow of a conversation and thus a connection.
Anyways I spot Jessica, the girl that screwed me over the day before. She's looking good, and she walks right up to me and brushes johnny and starts kissing me on the neck and cheek. She seems to have forgotten that I was upset with her, and I seem to have NOT forgotten what a good fuck she was. I want her again, I type out in capital letters that I'm going to fuck her multiple times in the room. I don't specify how many. And for good measure I say it again verbally. She affirms both times.
And we are off to the rooms, while walking I'm thinking I'm the stupidest fucker in here to do this.
But damn this girl is worth it, I fucked her 3 times. I would probably rate her 7 in looks, but she just has this very hard to describe sensual energy about her that gives you a hint that she really knows how to ride, suck and fuck you to exhaustion.
Long blowjobs full of spit, she varies pace between fast and slow and always looking into the eyes. Fucked her in various positions around the room. Very enthusiastic and loud. On the third nut, she didn't let me pull out and then she basically fucked me to her pleasure.
She offered her asshole twice and this might be blasphemy on a Brazilian forum but I am not fond of anal sex. So I politely declined.
After finishing up, I head back to the outside bar area again. And there's a straight up 9 who looks like she just arrived at Scandallo. I go up to her without thinking. I ask for her number, she takes me to the side and gives it me. She has a British Number, stayed in England for a year. Perfect English. (that reminds me haven't seen Gabi since day 1). I tell her I will call her to the hotel tomorrow. I start walking back through the club area and think to myself I really need to go back and fuck her. So I stop, turnaround and walk back to her but she was already being bought drinks by another guy. I was a little pissed off with myself for not taking more initiative.
Called it a night there.
Comment on her. I have been taking uber black everywhere, I think I've been cancelled on just once. Very good service with no problems. I have noticed a slight lag where I would sometimes have to wait over 10 minutes before one arrives.
Random observation- saw one Brazilian guy take 4 girls to the room. I don't know how that works with condoms. I would hate to keep switching rubber.
Will report on my Sunday hotel experiences since Scandallo is closed. Cheers.
FACTS. From my experience. Brazilians. Whether a guy or girl who has lived / traveled in Europe and the US who speaks English are totally different than Brazilians who doesn't speak English or have never traveled. It's weird and I have no idea why but they act very spoiled and privileged, even worse than the average European / American. It's like they became more elitist and lost that "friendly factor". I placed a permanent embargo on Scandallo girls who speaks English and who are like this.
[QUOTE=OJeito;2673621]I strongly concur with seor Everythingblue! I think his is advice is spot on about avoiding the pros who speak English with a high proficiency. Not only do they tend to quote higher prices for their gringo clients but the ones who have traveled to Europe for "work" are oftentimes noticeably more hardened from being in the industry for such a lengthy tenure that they do eventually become a bit jaded and perform more mechanical in bed. This is just my experience. I've got one rule that I never stray from and that's if a garota speaks English or mentions having previously traveled to Europe at some point then I run for the hills. YMMV.[/QUOTE]
Hey Singe,
This girl you met Gabriella, was she a slim brunette? A white Brazilian girl who is enrolled at her local university and she traveled to California before? If so, I met her too. I didn't do anything with her but we had a long conversation at the patio, she was very sweet and educated.
[QUOTE=Singe247;2673068]Don't get me wrong 7's and 8's are good and I did sample a fine young girl in the room. She was good, tame in the club itself but very bubbly in the room. All was as expected not a bad experience at all but it did not blow my mind; maybe due to the short session. She spoke almost perfect English so that was a big reason why I chose her to get a lay of the land. I am calling her today whenever she wakes up which will probably be at like 4 pm LOL. I'm going to go around some parts of the city with her. My very own translator eh! I don't think I'm going to fuck her again though. I'll probably also want to meet her again in Scandallo tonight and ask her to introduce me to her friends or if I need help translating with someone. She's a nice friendly girl that way by the name of Gabriella.[/QUOTE]
Yes spot on description. Most likely her.
[QUOTE=Jergens007;2673896]Hey Singe,
This girl you met Gabriella, was she a slim brunette? A white Brazilian girl who is enrolled at her local university and she traveled to California before? If so, I met her too. I didn't do anything with her but we had a long conversation at the patio, she was very sweet and educated.[/QUOTE]
SP has a large Japanese population, largest Japanese population outside of Japan. Sizeable Korean population in SP too. So yeah, you'll see about 15-20% Asians in Scandallo. Because of this, SP has some very good Sushi restaurants. On the same level as in USA or Asia.
I highly doubt they are Asian tourists from Asia since they have strict covid entry requirements when returning back to their country. Most of the Asians from USA will just go to Rio and skipped out SP.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2673623]Yes, I am definitely aware of SP having the largest Japanese diaspora outside of Japan and have reported on this several times. The Asian men in the conversation with Gabriella specifically mentioned Chinese and Korean, and thought perhaps this could be an interesting trend to watch.
Thanks to all for the clarifying and I appreciate varying views and opinions. Definitely gives me a more robust picture of the Asian influences at Scandallo.[/QUOTE]
Of course, that's everywhere in the world. Women from developing / poor countries who can speak english and traveled outside of their country have an elitist mindset. They act they are better than the locals around them.
I don't know about if they act worse than the average American? LOL Maybe some. But majority don't act as spoiled as an entitled woman in Los Angeles.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2673877]FACTS. From my experience. Brazilians. Whether a guy or girl who has lived / traveled in Europe and the US who speaks English are totally different than Brazilians who doesn't speak English or have never traveled. It's weird and I have no idea why but they act very spoiled and privileged, even worse than the average European / American. It's like they became more elitist and lost that "friendly factor". I placed a permanent embargo on Scandallo girls who speaks English and who are like this.[/QUOTE]
What's up guys!
I just got back home to LOS Angeles, spent over 2 weeks in SP. I had an amazing time and plan to come back again soon. This is my 4th trip to Brazil, my 2nd trip to SP, my previous SP trip was in Feb 2020 before covid.
About myself:
Late 30's Asian American who has a taste for cavalas and Panicat Brazilian women. What are cavalas and Panicats? Cavalas are curvy women with big booty and big tits. I have a thing for enhanced BBL and big tits, fake or real.
Panicats are the curvy models / dancers you see on Brazilian TV shows. All Brazilians will know about Panicats and Cavalas. I also love the tan lines. I find it so sexy! Turns me on.
I speak some Spanish but very basic Portuguese. I was with my Brazilian friend in SP, who is American educated, to help me out with the translation. He is very charismatic and outgoing, he knows SP very well and he runs a onlyfans social media company for a couple of brazilian porn stars.
My accommodations:
During the 2 weeks, I got a nice penthouse with a jacuzzi in el centro, the area was shady but the building was amazing, (the photo of Lizys ass in the Jacuzzi, was my Penthouse).
Afterwards I stayed at an apartment in Vila madalena for a few days and then the remainder of my trip at the Renaissance Hotel. Vila Madalena is a great area for parties, bars, and is very bohemian. Renaissance hotel is located near Paulista Ave, a very nice luxury hotel, many Americans, pilots, business executives stay here. At night at the hotel lobby bar, you will see many working girls chilling sitting by themselves. Many of them are good looking.
Escorts: Here are links of 3 escorts I met when I was in SP. All 3 of them provided great service, very passionate.
Nick Rosa aka Morena Luv, she speaks very good English and travels to Dubai often so she is on another level in the Brazilian escort world.
Lizzy is a part time porn star, she has an onlyfans and I happen to be part of her homemade porn clip. Her ass is amazing!
Anna Laura: a very hot Gaucha Cavala. She's from Porto Alegre, if you don't know what a gaucha is.
[URL]https://twitter.com/morenalovv[/URL]
[URL]https://twitter.com/gauchaaaaaa[/URL]
[URL]https://twitter.com/lizydonato[/URL]
Casa Rao:* Remodel since my last visit in 2020, its a cheap, tons of girls, most are pretty average to cute. You might find 2 or 3 stunning ones that are Scandallo quality. Good place to go for cheap drinks and to listen to music. Most girls I talk to were asking about 300-500 reals. I didn't take any girls with me.
Bahamas: The owner of this club is famous and very well known in the media. The place has the decor of a mansion in Miami or New Orleans Lights were bright so we can see the women. Since it was during carnival, It was an off night. I didn't see any girls that fit my taste. However I see this place having potential. Since it was once the hottest club before Scandallo opened, when I return back to SP, I will check it out again.
Scandallo: Probably the best adult venue I have been. Luxury night club similar to Vegas. They have a restaurant that serves sushi and steak. The food is very good. I was surprised how good the sushi was. Scandallo is always consistent with hot women. Wide variety of women to pick out. From slim, skinny, supermodel, fashion model, curvy, cavalas, panicats, big ass, big tits, all ethnicities, blond, redheads, brunettes, black girls, morenas and I saw a few Asians.
I thought the termas of Rio were amazing but in the last couple of years the talent level of termas has gone down the hill. The owner of Monte Carlo Termas told me most of the hottest Brazilian girls are going to SP to work instead of the termas. Since they make more money in SP. Scandallo is where the best talent is at consistently.
I prefer to session at my apartment as opposed to their hotel, so I was collecting numbers from the top 4 girls I like. During the duration of my trip, I ended up meeting with 3 of them. During my 2 weeks, I came to Scandallo 3 times. M.
Carnival: If you come to Brazil and your main goal is monger, avoid Carnival week since most of the girls are partying with friends or with family. * *During the week of Carnival, Scandallo, Casa Rao and the Bahamas was pretty slow. The week before Carnival, they had a big DJ name Medusa performing, the place was packed with people like sardines, so many women. The days after carnival it was pretty slow, either way, there were plenty of women to pick from.
Brazilians sure know how to party. Vila Maladena was the hot spot for partying, 4 days straight, everyone was partying till 5 am. My Brazilian friend took me out with his friends, met up with a girl he knows and her group of friends. I ended up hooking up with one of the girls. Since my Portuguese was non-existent, my Spanish paid dividends since she spoke Spanish.
Hit me up if you have any questions. Cheers!
I can't private message you. She is not the type who I would normally go for, since I like women with curves and big tits / ass. She is more petite and skinny. I was very attracted to her personality and how intelligent she was. She didn't come off as the type of girl who will work at Scandallo. How was your session with her?
[QUOTE=Singe247;2673922]Yes spot on description. Most likely her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jergens007;2673954]I just got back home to LOS Angeles, spent over 2 weeks in SP. I had an amazing time and plan to come back again soon. This is my 4th trip to Brazil, my 2nd trip to SP, my previous SP trip was in Feb 2020 before covid. ...
Panicats are the curvy models / dancers you see on Brazilian TV shows. All Brazilians will know about Panicats and Cavalas. I also love the tan lines. I find it so sexy! Turns me on. ...
My accommodations:
During the 2 weeks, I got a nice penthouse with a jacuzzi in el centro, the area was shady but the building was amazing, (the photo of Lizys ass in the Jacuzzi, was my Penthouse). ...
Brazilians sure know how to party. Vila Maladena was the hot spot for partying, 4 days straight, everyone was partying till 5 am. ...[/QUOTE]Good job, nice read, vice nice report! And that view from the Jacuzzi hot tub looks amazing.
I thought your option to stay at a centro apartment w/Jacuzzi hot tub, was an interesting, but no doubt fun choice. Albeit located in a slightly shady area of centro.
Okay, I'll have to update my Brazilian (and/or Spanish?) lexicon w/r to cavalas and Panicats. Thanks!
[i]BTW, care to share any partying info on the scene in Vila Maladena?[/i]
Based on experience is there still sufficient talent around over this time or a complete waste of time?
[QUOTE=Jergens007;2673954]Escorts: Here are links of 3 escorts I met when I was in SP. All 3 of them provided great service, very passionate.
Nick Rosa aka Morena Luv, she speaks very good English and travels to Dubai often so she is on another level in the Brazilian escort world.
Lizzy is a part time porn star, she has an onlyfans and I happen to be part of her homemade porn clip. Her ass is amazing!
Anna Laura: a very hot Gaucha Cavala. She's from Porto Alegre, if you don't know what a gaucha is.
[URL]https://twitter.com/morenalovv[/URL]
[URL]https://twitter.com/gauchaaaaaa[/URL]
[URL]https://twitter.com/lizydonato[/URL].[/QUOTE]Good report with some new insights. It's always good to get some higher-end escort recommendations. First, not everyone can be at the boates late at night. Work considerations, etc. Second, there's always a lot of discussions about great times with so and so, but many guys don't provide digits.
Thanks Jergens007.
[QUOTE=PGTour;2674039]Based on experience is there still sufficient talent around over this time or a complete waste of time?[/QUOTE]Possibly one of the worst times you can go because most of the girls are heading to / are on vacation. Usually the best girls get taken away to another city or country by a guy for the holidays or they are spending time with their families. Your options are not as vast but with sao paulo there's tons of girls to fill the void. If you had a girl in mind like an online girl it's a toss up. I went to SP early January and it was not as packed like when I went in September. Didn't help there was a lockdown but most girls don't come back from vacation until mid Jan. Could still have a good time, I did.
[QUOTE=Jergens007;2673954]What's up guys!.[/QUOTE]Thanks man, great review. How did you meet these three, and what was the rate / service? Pernoite? I dabbled this last trip but wouldn't mind making room for a real upscale experience, I don't mind spending a bit.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2673738]Unfortunately not. Things start closing down around 7-8 pm. Most girls are leaving by then or are in rooms for the last sessions. There is one late night Clnica which I haven't tried. I believe it's 300 r per hour.
Savanas CLnica de Massagem.
+55 11 3051-8512.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/HHvdfG2sthohtaCX7[/URL]
As much discussed, you can try Scandallo. Or get an online girl at SPLove or Clubmodel.[/QUOTE]Thanks man, appreciate that.
Seems like all signs really do point you toward Scandallo, eh? Perhaps I will see some of you on the next trip. Any advice on what Scandallo is like on Monday nights, still okay? Seemed like SP kind of ramped up through the week with each night getting better through Thursday.
Back to my other report, as I was checking out the Renaissance lobby Thursday there was a girl that came in with a guy, she was something else entirely. Skin was white with red hair, she practically looked Irish but with a fat ass that looked awesome. She was the life of the party but came clearly attended. One to look out for I think.
Either one is fine just depends on what you want / need.
If you get a luxury hotel room or airbnb it does help set the girl in a comfortable mood I've noticed. TBH most of these girls idea of luxury are not very high as they live in small apartments with other family members or girls, so most hotel / airbnb rooms will do just fine. If it has a jacuzzi in the room that's a huge plus. Good idea to get a nice room especially if you plan on doing lots of pernoites.
You should avoid renting or staying in a private residence house in SP. Honestly most airbnb listings are condos so you really have to go out your way to find this problem LOL. Some online girls don't go to private residences for safety reasons, so don't want to shoot yourself in the foot.
You also can go to love motels. I'm a big fan and theres tons in SP. Lush and motel asturias are TOP as the brazilians say. They have everything you need like drinks and food brought up to you as well as costumes and toys. Girls get a kick out of those places too.
[QUOTE=LionsNTigers;2674057]... Any advice on what Scandallo is like on Monday nights, still okay? ...[/QUOTE]A girl told me they can take one day off without paying entry fee again. I remember that day is Monday (or they prefer to take Monday off) so I assume Monday is less ideal to visit if you have a choice. But all you need is one girl so you may still find one on a slow day.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2674085]A girl told me they can take one day off without paying entry fee again. I remember that day is Monday (or they prefer to take Monday off) so I assume Monday is less ideal to visit if you have a choice. But all you need is one girl so you may still find one on a slow day.[/QUOTE]I was told by a few girls they can choose either Saturday or Monday, so including Sunday, they have 2 consecutively days off.
This results in Saturdays and Mondays being the slowest days at Scandallo.
[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2673731]All fine points. Seems like google translate can be man's best wingman. A soon as I get out of the airport I need to go to the mall where I here the Tim store will give you a sim card using your passport ID.[/QUOTE]Didn't need Google translate since I was talking to her in Portuguese. I specifically asked her for her services and she agreed. Once we got to the room, she just changed her mind. I even asked her in the room about her confirming everything down at the bar and she said "yes, everything is included at 1000. " She was trying to upsell once you get inside the room knowing most guys wouldn't have the ability to say no. I had enough fun over the weekend so I was able to tell her to get the fuck out.
Not much to say for Sunday.
Felt good in the morning with the 2 exciting possibilities of the Clubmodel girl and the 9 I met at Scandallo. I first contact the clubmodel girl.
The Clubmodel girl, she never responds sadly. So go to plan be and I message the scandallo girl. Get a response in 5 minutes and scheduled for 8 pm. She surprisingly arrives right on time, lives in Moema. No trouble with the hotel, she gets registered and sent right on up.
At this point I'm just hoping like my last dying wish that she's good in bed, but again tough luck she is just plain average. Good kisser but a slight smell in the mouth (huge turnoff), horribly short blowjob. Couldn't get hard properly because of it. But She has an incredible body and face and looks like a dream when she's on all fours. Real fat ass falling over the sides, long hair, big tits and a model face. 2 loads and done. She was very polite and again great English skills' she was good company so I did extend her time with me for 2 more hours (didn't pay much for this since I didn't want sex) . We just talk and order dinner. Room service. I was in a full charm offensive. She turns out to be very sweet. I liked her in the end.
Since Gabi is a no show, I might keep her as eye candy and go out on the city. She said she liked Vila Madalena where all the bars are located I believe. Maybe I take her there one night.
Will try and keep my reports short from here since I feel like they are dragging on.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2674226]Didn't need Google translate since I was talking to her in Portuguese. I specifically asked her for her services and she agreed. Once we got to the room, she just changed her mind. I even asked her in the room about her confirming everything down at the bar and she said "yes, everything is included at 1000. " She was trying to upsell once you get inside the room knowing most guys wouldn't have the ability to say no. I had enough fun over the weekend so I was able to tell her to get the fuck out.[/QUOTE]Was it R400 or R1,000 for the hour? You listed two different numbers.
It is good to hear you and others say there are now some occasional hot talent at the Renaissance bar.
I have stayed there often and have yet to see any working girls above a 7 optically freelancing at the bar. I usually see 2-3 of them in their 30's and not worth the trouble to inquire.
I also figured the service would be mediocre and full of upsell due to the clientele they target / attract there.
[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2672075]Hello,
I will be on the ground in SP for the first time in a few days. I intend to have girls at my hotel from the escort websites as well as visiting girls that host from their own location. My question is when do they pay you? Before the services rendered or after?
Thanks,
TIG.[/QUOTE]Are you still in SP?
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2674248]Was it R400 or R1,000 for the hour? You listed two different numbers.
It is good to hear you and others say there are now some occasional hot talent at the Renaissance bar.
I have stayed there often and have yet to see any working girls above a 7 optically freelancing at the bar. I usually see 2-3 of them in their 30's and not worth the trouble to inquire.
I also figured the service would be mediocre and full of upsell due to the clientele they target / attract there.[/QUOTE]Downstairs at the bar during the negotiation, it was agreed to R400 for an hour. Once we got upstairs and we had changed and she was massaging me, the price changed and I got pissed and turned off. I guess she figured she could upsell a gringo seeing that my bag was packed and was ready to go. I told her I was leaving the country downstairs and wanted to get one last one in. Maybe she understood that as I was desperate for the sex and she thought she could charge more. Anyway. Whatever her reasons are, I could care less.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2674310]Downstairs at the bar during the negotiation, it was agreed to R400 for an hour. Once we got upstairs and we had changed and she was massaging me, the price changed and I got pissed and turned off. I guess she figured she could upsell a gringo seeing that my bag was packed and was ready to go. I told her I was leaving the country downstairs and wanted to get one last one in. Maybe she understood that as I was desperate for the sex and she thought she could charge more. Anyway. Whatever her reasons are, I could care less.[/QUOTE]Señor Anaggie, I know the feeling, always good to have a plan for that last bit of venom needing to be released. Once you get in the plane, you are thankful you got it out, like you haven't released plenty the last few days LOL. It's never enough!
Thanks for the reports. Looking forward to your future ones as I will be back in SP next month.
[QUOTE=Singe247;2673068]
Don't get me wrong 7's and 8's are good and I did sample a fine young girl in the room. She was good, tame in the club itself but very bubbly in the room. All was as expected not a bad experience at all but it did not blow my mind; maybe due to the short session. She spoke almost perfect English so that was a big reason why I chose her to get a lay of the land. I am calling her today whenever she wakes up which will probably be at like 4 pm LOL. I'm going to go around some parts of the city with her. My very own translator eh! I don't think I'm going to fuck her again though. I'll probably also want to meet her again in Scandallo tonight and ask her to introduce me to her friends or if I need help translating with someone. She's a nice friendly girl that way by the name of Gabriella.
Paid 1 k to Gabi, 230 Real for the room.
[/QUOTE]I met Gabriella too. She "SEEMED" like a real sweet and intelligent girl and does speak very good English. She wants to work in finance and has traveled to US and Europe. Wants to move to Spain to work because it pays more.
However, her overseas exposure has given her a warped sense of pricing. She believes gringos who comes from western countries should / can afford to pay above local market rate due to strong exchange rate. She basically wanted local pricing in Europe or US, but in BRL. It was ludicrous.
She wanted R1,000 for an hour or R3,500-4,000 for an overnight! . because that's what she THINKS she can get working in Spain or the US.
I wanted to tell her "Sweetie. You ain't in New York or Madrid! I also wanted to ask her. If I come from a country with a weak currency like Russia or Argentina, do I get a discount? LOL. For a girl that works in banking, she knows shit about economics and exchange rate implications on local finances.
After I turned her down, she asked for a "donation for her time". Even after I gave her some Real (only because she is friends with a girl I know and like and didn't want her to trash talk me), she still gave me a real dirty look when she passed by (she didn't think I noticed, but I have great peripheral vision) as saw me smoozing with another girl.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2674381]Thanks for the reports. Looking forward to your future ones as I will be back in SP next month.
I met Gabriella too. She "SEEMED" like a real sweet and intelligent girl and does speak very good English. She wants to work in finance and has traveled to US and Europe. Wants to move to Spain to work because it pays more.
However, her overseas exposure has given her a warped sense of pricing. She believes gringos who comes from western countries should / can afford to pay above local market rate due to strong exchange rate. She basically wanted local pricing in Europe or US, but in BRL. It was ludicrous.
She wanted R1,000 for an hour or R3,500-4,000 for an overnight! . because that's what she THINKS she can get working in Spain or the US.
I wanted to tell her "Sweetie. You ain't in New York or Madrid! I also wanted to ask her. If I come from a country with a weak currency like Russia or Argentina, do I get a discount? LOL. For a girl that works in banking, she knows shit about economics and exchange rate implications on local finances.
After I turned her down, she asked for a "donation for her time". Even after I gave her some Real (only because she is friends with a girl I know and like and didn't want her to trash talk me), she still gave me a real dirty look when she passed by (she didn't think I noticed, but I have great peripheral vision) as saw me smoozing with another girl.[/QUOTE]Man, what are the chances that this is the same Gabriella I sessioned with in Scandallo on a Saturday afternoon when I wanted to the have "The last one" before my trip back? LOL. She was very persistent on 1000 Real for an hour, but so was I on paying less and we finally settled for 800, but wait she wasn't done yet, she gave me decent service but when I wanted to fuck again she said I was too cheap LOL.
Hahahah lmao.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2674381]I wanted to tell her "Sweetie. You ain't in New York or Madrid! I also wanted to ask her. If I come from a country with a weak currency like Russia or Argentina, do I get a discount? LOL. For a girl that works in banking, she knows shit about economics and exchange rate implications on local finances.
[/QUOTE]
Random girls asking for money and drinks out of nowhere is probably one of the most annoying thing about Scandallo.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2674381]After I turned her down, she asked for a "donation for her time". Even after I gave her some Real (only because she is friends with a girl I know and like and didn't want her to trash talk me), she still gave me a real dirty look when she passed by (she didn't think I noticed, but I have great peripheral vision) as saw me smoozing with another girl.[/QUOTE]
I don't know any Gabriella but convinced all of the dudes in this forum boned her.
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2674395]Man, what are the chances that this is the same Gabriella I sessioned with in Scandallo on a Saturday afternoon when I wanted to the have "The last one" before my trip back? LOL. She was very persistent on 1000 Real for an hour, but so was I on paying less and we finally settled for 800, but wait she wasn't done yet, she gave me decent service but when I wanted to fuck again she said I was too cheap LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jergens007;2673954]
About myself:
Late 30's Asian American who has a taste for cavalas and Panicat Brazilian women. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and glad to hear my fellow Asian monger who have same taste in women.
Since you just came back, what is COVID-19 requirements to enter?
Is it PCR 72 HR. Before or antigen test 24 HR. Before sufficient enough?
Doesn't look like her from the photo. Very far off. Gabriella is like pale, ghostly white.
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2674395]Man, what are the chances that this is the same Gabriella I sessioned with in Scandallo on a Saturday afternoon when I wanted to the have "The last one" before my trip back? LOL. She was very persistent on 1000 Real for an hour, but so was I on paying less and we finally settled for 800, but wait she wasn't done yet, she gave me decent service but when I wanted to fuck again she said I was too cheap LOL.[/QUOTE]
You got the sweet and intelligent part correct but way off on the rest it seems unless she's just fucking around with me LOL. She's never been to Europe and has never talked about spain. She didn't mention anything about finance when I asked her what she wants to do later on. She mentioned wanting to go to Dubai next month to work. I told her a few spots I visit, she was very happy haha. She is sitting on my bed naked in a bathrobe as I type this having no idea I'm writing about her LOL.
She charges 1000 for the hour and 2 k is what I am paying her for overnight which she quoted to me. I accepted without negotiation. She takes a while to break in, she doesn't like rough guys but she offered to fuck her with her overlooking the window. I have a high floor and a very nice suite. She automatically guided both my hands to her neck while I was fucking her from behind and asked me to choke her. Suffice to say I'm having a good time with her. Still no bareback, but I feel I need another day or 2 with her before she will accept that as well. More on my day with her on my next report.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2674381]Thanks for the reports. Looking forward to your future ones as I will be back in SP next month.
I met Gabriella too. She "SEEMED" like a real sweet and intelligent girl and does speak very good English. She wants to work in finance and has traveled to US and Europe. Wants to move to Spain to work because it pays more.
However, her overseas exposure has given her a warped sense of pricing. She believes gringos who comes from western countries should / can afford to pay above local market rate due to strong exchange rate. She basically wanted local pricing in Europe or US, but in BRL. It was ludicrous.
She wanted R1,000 for an hour or R3,500-4,000 for an overnight! . because that's what she THINKS she can get working in Spain or the US.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2673368]I'm seasoned enough from my AMP adventures in the Pacific. I'm not necessarily looking for the same thing but are there any specific clinicas with an Oriental lineup?
I see SP has a large Japa population and there's no shortage of Acompanhantes. I want a double with 2 Japas / hapas.[/QUOTE]I asked this question a few months ago. Short answer is there doesn't seem to be. I did some recon during my last visit and couldn't find anything beyond the random Asian girl in a boate or online. There is a small group of Japanese looking mixed girls on Twitter. Tried one but service was not good so skip the rest. I would think there is a secret network of young thin Japanese working girls all dressed in geisha or school girl outfits that caters to the local Japanese market. But that's just my imagination.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2674005][i]BTW, care to share any partying info on the scene in Vila Maladena?[/i][/QUOTE]During Carnival it was mostly 20's-30's. A few 40's a lot of bars, restaurants, live music.
I'm not sure what its like during normal times, but either way, its the place to be for partying.
Check it out!
[QUOTE=Singe247;2674489]You got the sweet and intelligent part correct but way off on the rest it seems unless she's just fucking around with me LOL. She's never been to Europe and has never talked about spain. She didn't mention anything about finance when I asked her what she wants to do later on. She mentioned wanting to go to Dubai next month to work. I told her a few spots I visit, she was very happy haha. She is sitting on my bed naked in a bathrobe as I type this having no idea I'm writing about her LOL.
She charges 1000 for the hour and 2 k is what I am paying her for overnight which she quoted to me. I accepted without negotiation. She takes a while to break in, she doesn't like rough guys but she offered to fuck her with her overlooking the window. I have a high floor and a very nice suite. She automatically guided both my hands to her neck while I was fucking her from behind and asked me to choke her. Suffice to say I'm having a good time with her. Still no bareback, but I feel I need another day or 2 with her before she will accept that as well. More on my day with her on my next report.[/QUOTE]Here is my encounter with Gabriella, I went to Scandallo alone. My Brazilian friend didn't come with me. I ran into the girls who me and my Brazilian friend hung out with the previous night. The 2 girls joined me for dinner / drinks at the restaurant. Gabi walked by my table and just gave me smile and long ass stare. Usually women will not make eye contact if your with another girl. But she got some balls. She is cute and attractive, but I'm more into the slutty big titty / big ass cavala types. After dinner, me and the girls went to the dance floor just to hang out and dance. Here comes Gabi, walked by us and gave me a wink while I was still hanging out with my girls. LOL About 30 minutes later, the girls told me they need to go make money and meet clients, quick hug and off they go. Guess who came back? Gabi. She said, Hey how are you? Than I responded with a smile. " que? No falo ingles" than she started to speak Portuguese, than I joked I told her I don't speak Portuguese. I was impressed how good her English was and her intelligence made her more attractive. She use to live in New York and California. She briefly lived in Beverly hills. Yes she told me she wanted to become a private wealth manager at a big bank in SP. I asked her. What the fuck are you doing here?? LOL She is going to school and doing this to make extra side money. She wants to move back to California. We talked for a while, we exchange Instagram. Based on her IG photos, she probably comes from an an upper class family in SP. Otherwise, she wouldn't have got a visa to travel to the USA alone. I guess in Brazilian society its ok to be a sex worker and its not frowned up compare to USA. Many of the girls at Scandallo are in college, have a full time job and just working at Scandallo as a side hustle. Based on the recent posts of Gabi and my experience with her, sounds like she's hunting gringos, tourists and Asians because she can get the most money from them compare to local Brazilian. Let us know if you end up barebacking her.
[QUOTE=Singe247;2674489]You got the sweet and intelligent part correct but way off on the rest it seems unless she's just fucking around with me LOL. She's never been to Europe and has never talked about spain. She didn't mention anything about finance when I asked her what she wants to do later on. She mentioned wanting to go to Dubai next month to work. I told her a few spots I visit, she was very happy haha. She is sitting on my bed naked in a bathrobe as I type this having no idea I'm writing about her LOL.
She charges 1000 for the hour and 2 k is what I am paying her for overnight which she quoted to me. I accepted without negotiation. She takes a while to break in, she doesn't like rough guys but she offered to fuck her with her overlooking the window. I have a high floor and a very nice suite. She automatically guided both my hands to her neck while I was fucking her from behind and asked me to choke her. Suffice to say I'm having a good time with her. Still no bareback, but I feel I need another day or 2 with her before she will accept that as well. More on my day with her on my next report.[/QUOTE]Maybe it's a different girl with same name. They can use any name they want, and many girls use their real names.
I've met 3 different Gabriella in the last year at Scandallo, but your description of her being pale white and fluent English skills made me think it was the same girl.
All the other stuff doesn't matter, as long as you are having a good time and find her pricing reasonable to you.
So went to the ATM. Took out 2500 which was successful. Tried again and it said transaction failed. My bank still debited the 2500 Reais from my account. I don't understand what happened.
Very frustrating. Spoke to the people at the bank, they said to contact my bank LOL. Registered a dispute with my bank, and that's all folks. Can't do shit about it. Next time will only do one transaction a day I guess.
Called the Scandallo girl and very surprisingly she said she couldn't come. Didn't give a reason. I really thought we had hit it off, she really did seem to be into me. I don't think she was just doing the regular shtick of acting in being into me. Maybe she was actually busy so couldn't come. Her loss. Later in the day, she texts me back 4 times asking if she can come so my ego is soothed.
So anyways Gabi had been on my mind past few days and I messaged her, she responded quick and we scheduled. Fucked her 3 times in the room. The hotel made me sign some kind of consent form this time for a visitor.
Then we went to see a movie (batman) to Cinemark cidade Jardim very upscale and high street brands. Got two fairly expensive love seats where we snuggled in and made out all the time. I'm going to have to watch the movie again.
In conversation with Gabi things got very interesting and have got me excited again for the next few days.
She says she has her best friend (she calls her a sister) who stays with her and says and I quote "she is a * and fucks everything." So naturally that piqued my interest as I would like to be fucked too so I ask her if we can call her tomorrow. She agreed without hesitation and was kind of really pushing the idea which kind of gave me pause. But I guess we will see how it goes.
I asked to see her pictures and hot damn this girl is fire, and 20 years old. Way hotter than Gabi.
My hotel unfortunately has told me that they would allow only one guest, but I will go and ask them one more time if they can allow it or accept a fee to take in 2 guests.
I told Gabi this and she said she knows of many places we can go fuck. Some kind of hot bath sauna kinda place with a pool and fuck toys and everything. I ain't complaining.
Keeping it short. Will report tomorrow again.
Deciding on a multi month stay in SP vs rio.
My MO. Is quickies, usually with casa girls, sw (Colombia) or prives in rio.
When I went to rio and stayed in centro, so many prives it's amazing. In and out. But it's less developed in centro esp. Compared to copa where shit's more expensive. airbnbs arnt as nice, etc.
SP has much better food, housing (stayed by republica metro), but the prive scene is non existent. If I want to go to a quick prive I have to take a 20 min metro to other neighboorhoods, or go walk by cracklandia 20 blocks after booking an online girl. A lot more prep time.
My question I guess is.
Has the prive scene in SP gotten better? Or is it mostly termas still and online ads which require more time and setup.
I would much prefer to stay in one of the SP condos as compared to rio centro as theyre much nicer, but the prive quickie scene of rio along with villa mimosa is hard to beat.
Thanks for your time.
Jw.
I'm coming to SP for the first time in a couple of months. Its a business trip but from reading here, Scandallo is a must so I will make sure to stay over a weekend for that purpose alone.
However, for the weekdays, its going to be all business and little time for hunting. But again reading the thread, its seems that staying at the Renaissance is a good pick as I read quite a few post saying that you can find WGs in the lobby bar there. That would do very nicely for some evening fun. So my question to you experienced gentlemen here is whether one can find quality there?
(Well from doing a bit of reasearch and being and ass man, almost anywhere in SP seem to be heaven).
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2674646]Deciding on a multi month stay in SP vs rio.
My MO. Is quickies, usually with casa girls, sw (Colombia) or prives in rio.
When I went to rio and stayed in centro, so many prives it's amazing. In and out. But it's less developed in centro esp. Compared to copa where shit's more expensive. airbnbs arnt as nice, etc.
SP has much better food, housing (stayed by republica metro), but the prive scene is non existent. If I want to go to a quick prive I have to take a 20 min metro to other neighboorhoods, or go walk by cracklandia 20 blocks after booking an online girl. A lot more prep time.
My question I guess is.
Has the prive scene in SP gotten better? Or is it mostly termas still and online ads which require more time and setup.
I would much prefer to stay in one of the SP condos as compared to rio centro as theyre much nicer, but the prive quickie scene of rio along with villa mimosa is hard to beat.
Thanks for your time.
Jw.[/QUOTE]Based on my experience, Rio is much better in that regard, more concentrated, and better quality. There are a few prive buildings in o Centro that are walking distance from Republica metro but the quality is not good. The same type of buildings like the one near cracklandia, I assume you consider that prive. Occasionally you can find a diamond, but very very rare. And you have to fuck in the setting similar to the cubicle like U24 in Rio. I know some like it that way but I like something clean and privacy. LOL. There are other prives but more spread out and I have not been to those. Have you been to Tangara? It's only 120 for 30 minutes.
I like Republica. There are a lot of food options and very lively at night. I plan to stay there my next trip.
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2674647]I'm coming to SP for the first time in a couple of months. Its a business trip but from reading here, Scandallo is a must so I will make sure to stay over a weekend for that purpose alone.
However, for the weekdays, its going to be all business and little time for hunting. But again reading the thread, its seems that staying at the Renaissance is a good pick as I read quite a few post saying that you can find WGs in the lobby bar there. That would do very nicely for some evening fun. So my question to you experienced gentlemen here is whether one can find quality there?
(Well from doing a bit of reasearch and being and ass man, almost anywhere in SP seem to be heaven).[/QUOTE]Dude. You can totally do business in the day / evening and Scandallo at night. Believe me. I've done it. Sleep when your dead. Politely excuse urself from dinner around 9 or 10 (very jetlagged!) and go to Scandallo till 2 am. Rinse. Repeat. You won't be sorry. Or you will be if you don't do this.
[QUOTE=Singe247;2674619]... Tried again and it said transaction failed. My bank still debited the 2500 Reais from my account. I don't understand what happened....[/QUOTE]Probably the ATM is out of cash. You can try another ATM and that works usually. The important thing here is don't repeatedly withdraw from the same ATM that gives you error. Your account will run out of money and you end up with no cash to withdraw from a good ATM.
You can take the girls to a nice love motel to have a party. It's pretty nice.
[QUOTE=Singe247;2674619]I told Gabi this and she said she knows of many places we can go fuck. Some kind of hot bath sauna kinda place with a pool and fuck toys and everything. I ain't complaining.[/QUOTE]Gabi's likely talking about the infamous Sao Paulo love motels. As Bearsi mentioned two days ago, Lush and Asturias are two of the best as far as amenities. You should check out their websites to see the various rooms on offer. Some are literally sexual playgrounds.
There are love motels all over town and some are just rooms to get down to business for a couple hours.
Good news today, card statement shows the money was credited back. So thank god for that.
Yes, I have my eye on the LUSH motel.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2674676]Probably the ATM is out of cash. You can try another ATM and that works usually. The important thing here is don't repeatedly withdraw from the same ATM that gives you error. Your account will run out of money and you end up with no cash to withdraw from a good ATM.
You can take the girls to a nice love motel to have a party. It's pretty nice.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2674646]Deciding on a multi month stay in SP vs rio.
My MO. Is quickies, usually with casa girls, sw (Colombia) or prives in rio.
When I went to rio and stayed in centro, so many prives it's amazing. In and out. But it's less developed in centro esp. Compared to copa where shit's more expensive. airbnbs arnt as nice, etc.
SP has much better food, housing (stayed by republica metro), but the prive scene is non existent. If I want to go to a quick prive I have to take a 20 min metro to other neighboorhoods, or go walk by cracklandia 20 blocks after booking an online girl. A lot more prep time.
My question I guess is.
Has the prive scene in SP gotten better? Or is it mostly termas still and online ads which require more time and setup..[/QUOTE]Why don't you stay in the middle of the Sao Paulo clinica scene? You can find nice condos in Moema and walk to the various clinicas. Of course, you can venture out to other clinicas in other neighborhoods. (My advice is don't stay in Republica.).
If I'm a bit confused by the vernacular you are using, I suspect others will be. Sao Paulo is not known for termas. And I would say SP clinicas are fairly similar to prives if not exactly. Clinicas are great for afternoon fun (as well as evening).
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2674673]Dude. You can totally do business in the day / evening and Scandallo at night. Believe me. I've done it. Sleep when your dead. Politely excuse urself from dinner around 9 or 10 (very jetlagged!) and go to Scandallo till 2 am. Rinse. Repeat. You won't be sorry. Or you will be if you don't do this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2674647]I'm coming to SP for the first time in a couple of months. Its a business trip but from reading here, Scandallo is a must so I will make sure to stay over a weekend for that purpose alone.
However, for the weekdays, its going to be all business and little time for hunting. But again reading the thread, its seems that staying at the Renaissance is a good pick as I read quite a few post saying that you can find WGs in the lobby bar there. That would do very nicely for some evening fun. So my question to you experienced gentlemen here is whether one can find quality there?
(Well from doing a bit of reasearch and being and ass man, almost anywhere in SP seem to be heaven).[/QUOTE]Exactly what Steve said. You can easily go to Scandallo after work function / dinner. Scandallo is opened until 4 am and some of the best talent don't show up until 9 or 10 pm.
Weekends (Friday and Saturday, as they are closed on Sundays) isn't as good as mid-week (Tuesday to Thursday) in terms of talent / lineup.
So Gabi's friend goes by the name of Aisha showed up and holy shit guys. I can't believe what I'm looking at. She's like a 20 year old college bunny. Beautiful always smiling, natural tits, gorgeous symmetrical pussy, skin as smooth as butter and a rockstar in bed. If she was up for sale, ID buy her forever. I think I'll keep this one with me for my remaining trip in SP. I will write more about her soon. Found my naughty angel. Fingers crossed.
She is a civi, she doesn't frequent Scandallo too often and only comes by reference usually.
[QUOTE=Singe247;2674709]Good news today, card statement shows the money was credited back. So thank god for that. [/QUOTE]Some banks such as Bradesco has a daily limit of 2500 r withdrawal at the ATM regardless of your own bank account withdrawal limit. I ran into the issue while in SP. You just have to go to another bank ATM such as HSBC or Santander to withdrawal more money.
I heard there is going to be a truckers strike starting about the 23rd. Has anyone there heard about this and what it might do to us during a visit? I will be arriving the 19th and returning April 4.
The person who told me about it was there during a trucker strike a few years back and he said they rationed gas?
It could be that she planned something with another client so she couldn't come and a lot of the times they won't give a reason for that.
[QUOTE=Singe247;2674619]Called the Scandallo girl and very surprisingly she said she couldn't come. Didn't give a reason. I really thought we had hit it off, she really did seem to be into me. I don't think she was just doing the regular shtick of acting in being into me. Maybe she was actually busy so couldn't come. Her loss. Later in the day, she texts me back 4 times asking if she can come so my ego is soothed..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2674711]Why don't you stay in the middle of the Sao Paulo clinica scene? You can find nice condos in Moema and walk to the various clinicas. Of course, you can venture out to other clinicas in other neighborhoods. (My advice is don't stay in Republica.).
If I'm a bit confused by the vernacular you are using, I suspect others will be. Sao Paulo is not known for termas. And I would say SP clinicas are fairly similar to prives if not exactly. Clinicas are great for afternoon fun (as well as evening).[/QUOTE]There are prives in SP which are locales in apt or business buildings. From what I heard, prives are below clinicas in quality but cheaper. In the local forum gpguia, there is a CLínica section and a prive section. From the descriptions of the prives, I would no interest in going. SP are known for its CLínica scene and I also recommend to first timers to SP to stick to them. There is a large grouping of clinicas in Moema and what's where I would be! There is a lot of traffic during the day and it would be a pain to get out of república to try any of the Clinicas in Moema.
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2674759]I heard there is going to be a truckers strike starting about the 23rd. Has anyone there heard about this and what it might do to us during a visit? I will be arriving the 19th and returning April 4.
The person who told me about it was there during a trucker strike a few years back and he said they rationed gas?[/QUOTE]Few years ago when they had a truckers strike I was in POA, it just means it will be hard to get transportation for taxi, since people have no petrol to put, and that time it got bad, not sure if it was worse, that even the airplanes might not be able to fly. Luckily that time the planes still could fly, and I could go home. So truckers strike means look forward to lack of public transportation, ohh and empty restaurants. That was cool, me and a girl all alone in the restaurant, with our own server, candlelight dinner. Expect restaurant to close early too. But should be fine in a city like sp.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2674711]Why don't you stay in the middle of the Sao Paulo clinica scene? You can find nice condos in Moema and walk to the various clinicas. Of course, you can venture out to other clinicas in other neighborhoods. (My advice is don't stay in Republica.).
If I'm a bit confused by the vernacular you are using, I suspect others will be. Sao Paulo is not known for termas. And I would say SP clinicas are fairly similar to prives if not exactly. Clinicas are great for afternoon fun (as well as evening).[/QUOTE]This is from my report when I went to sp last year:
""""the prives are amazing. Go to joao monteiro de gama 236 off of saude metro. Did a session with juliana, a japanese Brazil mix. 9/10 face. 69 and finished in mish. DFK. Then with amanda the mamasan. Classic brazilian alina riscado look. They had a special 80 k for 1 HR both times. It's the suburbs so a pain to find tbh. Just ask the taxi drivers where to walk, (I don't carry a phone).
Go to gp guia for the best prive info. The locals post there.
I also went to the 3 prives in santana. More suburbs.
Prive. Conselheiro Saraiva, 376.
Prive 432 - Rua Conselheiro Saraiva, 432.
Priv the Rua Doutor Olavo Egdio, 482."""
My apologies, I get the terminology confused. The prives are great, loaded with talent (performers) but I had to take a metro everytime, to 5-6 stops on theblue line, and walk like 10 min in the hot suburbs looking for the prive lmao., as opposed to rio centro, they're all in 4-5 buildings within a square mile or so.
Where would you recommend if not republica? I'm on the map but have a hard time finding a location close to the metro surrounded by clinicas. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2674671]Based on my experience, Rio is much better in that regard, more concentrated, and better quality. There are a few prive buildings in o Centro that are walking distance from Republica metro but the quality is not good. The same type of buildings like the one near cracklandia, I assume you consider that prive. Occasionally you can find a diamond, but very very rare. And you have to fuck in the setting similar to the cubicle like U24 in Rio. I know some like it that way but I like something clean and privacy. LOL. There are other prives but more spread out and I have not been to those. Have you been to Tangara? It's only 120 for 30 minutes.
I like Republica. There are a lot of food options and very lively at night. I plan to stay there my next trip.[/QUOTE]Rio centro is paradise for mongers. Like a dozen prives with 100 girls in a square mile. Easy to find. Sp has a ton as well, but so much damn walking in the suburbs and metro stops.
And yea, I'm a cheap bastard, so even if you get a 70 reais girl from photoacompanhtes by republica you're still fucking in a 8 x8 cubicle with little roaches in the bathroom haha!
It's a tough one man, sp has much better housing / infrastructure / food, but rio has the perks of a loaded prive centro and the beach / higher end copa, if one pleases.
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2674831]This is from my report when I went to sp last year:
""""the prives are amazing. Go to joao monteiro de gama 236 off of saude metro. Did a session with juliana, a japanese Brazil mix. 9/10 face. 69 and finished in mish. DFK. Then with amanda the mamasan. Classic brazilian alina riscado look. They had a special 80 k for 1 HR both times. It's the suburbs so a pain to find tbh. Just ask the taxi drivers where to walk, (I don't carry a phone).
Go to gp guia for the best prive info. The locals post there.
I also went to the 3 prives in santana. More suburbs.
Prive. Conselheiro Saraiva, 376.
Prive 432 - Rua Conselheiro Saraiva, 432.
Priv the Rua Doutor Olavo Egdio, 482."""
My apologies, I get the terminology confused. The prives are great, loaded with talent (performers) but I had to take a metro everytime, to 5-6 stops on theblue line, and walk like 10 min in the hot suburbs looking for the prive lmao., as opposed to rio centro, they're all in 4-5 buildings within a square mile or so.
Where would you recommend if not republica? I'm on the map but have a hard time finding a location close to the metro surrounded by clinicas. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Check out this list. And search for Moema clinica on the forum.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2627192&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2627192.
If you know gpguia, then you should be familiar to the SP scene. Lots of crazy opportunities in this city. Impossible to do it all and everybody have different preferences and styles.
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2674831]Where would you recommend if not republica? I'm on the map but have a hard time finding a location close to the metro surrounded by clinicas. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Staying near the Eucaliptos metro stop would put you near several Moema clinicas. It also has the advantage of being across the street from Shopping Ibirapuera. It's a decent shopping mall for walking around and eating. There's a supermarket right there too.
For a variety of reasons beyond mongering, I have stayed in Jardim Paulista. Quite a few guys here like staying in Moema. It has a different vibe than Republica so make sure you are cool with that.
[QUOTE=Singe247;2674751]So Gabi's friend goes by the name of Aisha showed up and holy shit guys. I can't believe what I'm looking at. She's like a 20 year old college bunny. Beautiful always smiling, natural tits, gorgeous symmetrical pussy, skin as smooth as butter and a rockstar in bed. If she was up for sale, ID buy her forever. I think I'll keep this one with me for my remaining trip in SP. I will write more about her soon. Found my naughty angel. Fingers crossed.
She is a civi, she doesn't frequent Scandallo too often and only comes by reference usually.[/QUOTE]Amazing find. If you don't mind, would you share her contact information after you get the PM facility? I have a trip planned for April during which I am trying to find a third and maybe she might fit the bill.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2674673]Dude. You can totally do business in the day / evening and Scandallo at night. Believe me. I've done it. Sleep when your dead. Politely excuse urself from dinner around 9 or 10 (very jetlagged!) and go to Scandallo till 2 am. Rinse. Repeat. You won't be sorry. Or you will be if you don't do this.[/QUOTE]Hell yeah. I could totally do that. When I look like shit in the morning its still going to be jetlag.
I been bombarded with tons of PMS in regards to Lizzy. Here are more photos of her. That's it! Stop messaging me for more photos of her. Go to her twitter and join her onlyfans. LOL [URL]https://twitter.com/lizydonato[/URL].
Yes, her ass was amazing!
[QUOTE=Jergens007;2673954]What's up guys!
I just got back home to LOS Angeles, spent over 2 weeks in SP. I had an amazing time and plan to come back again soon. This is my 4th trip to Brazil, my 2nd trip to SP, my previous SP trip was in Feb 2020 before covid.
About myself:
Late 30's Asian American who has a taste for cavalas and Panicat Brazilian women. What are cavalas and Panicats? Cavalas are curvy women with big booty and big tits. I have a thing for enhanced BBL and big tits, fake or real.
Panicats are the curvy models / dancers you see on Brazilian TV shows. All Brazilians will know about Panicats and Cavalas. I also love the tan lines. I find it so sexy! Turns me on.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jergens007;2675077]I been bombarded with tons of PMS in regards to Lizzy. Here are more photos of her. That's it! Stop messaging me for more photos of her. Go to her twitter and join her onlyfans. LOL
[/QUOTE]Please post more photos. LOL. I'm sorry I couldn't help myself.
[QUOTE]
Premenstrual syndrome ([B]PMS[/B]) has a wide variety of signs and symptoms, including mood swings, tender breasts, food cravings, fatigue, irritability and depression. It's estimated that as many as 3 of every 4 menstruating women have experienced some form of premenstrual syndrome.[/QUOTE]
She's got a great ass, but from her twitter handle she looks horribly ugly without the makeup, and over 30. Not judging but each to his own.
[QUOTE=Jergens007;2675077]I been bombarded with tons of PMS in regards to Lizzy. Here are more photos of her. That's it! Stop messaging me for more photos of her. Go to her twitter and join her onlyfans. LOL [URL]https://twitter.com/lizydonato[/URL].
Yes, her ass was amazing![/QUOTE]
Tried her out [URL]msmary.com.br[/URL].
Just for an hour to see how she is. Service was ok to pretty good. Body was incredible, and the face is rated 8.
Sure, after my trip will get the PM going.
Although incredible, she is very flaky on her timing and on trying to get a response from her. She has a boyfriend on the side.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2675037]Amazing find. If you don't mind, would you share her contact information after you get the PM facility? I have a trip planned for April during which I am trying to find a third and maybe she might fit the bill.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Singe247;2675145]Tried her out [URL]msmary.com.br[/URL].
Just for an hour to see how she is. Service was ok to pretty good. Body was incredible, and the face is rated 8.[/QUOTE]Way Overpriced. People go to Brasil to save money not pay USD rates. There are at least 100 Brazilian girls in South Florida save you the trip to BR.
[QUOTE=LionsNTigers;2673510]So for my last night in Sao Paulo this week I finished dinner too late to head to a real clinica like I wanted, so I stuck around the hotel and hung out in the lobby to finish some calls and emails and check the scene. There were a few working girls making conversation or just sitting trying to make eye contact. I saw a few make their way to rooms and was kind of dialing in on a decision when this girl walks through who was fucking stunning, like I assumed she was there with the other Eurotrash on vacation. Stunning outfit, skinny, beautiful, didn't look the part at all. She sat in a spot at the bar that I couldn't see her so I thought she just walked through and left, wasn't until quite a bit later I saw her parked at the bar waiting like the others.
She had ordered some food and I decided to wait until she was done, getting close to 10:30 when she finally finished. She started to move around the lobby a bit and I was just about to sit down to talk with her when one of my colleagues pulled up in the taxi so I had to make a story why I was down there, and she tucked in with a group of brits. So I sat kind of nearby until that finished and she came and sat near me, so I started the conversation. No English on her side, had to use the translator but that was fine. Made some stupid small talk that quickly transferred to an offer to "make the quarto" which confused the hell out of me, but she set me straight. She started at 2000, which I said I have 700, and she went for 1000, so I said fuck it and agreed (recognize it's a bit over market).[/QUOTE]2000 R may not be so much now but wait until the Real gains to 2. 5, are you willing to pay 2000 R still?
Anyway, point is stop paying gringo price evening if you can afford it now. Trust me, the girl will never forget what you paid and will ask the same each time, she won't accept less.
Before the pandemic the going rate was 1000 R for overnight with a Scandallo girl and now they want that for 1 hour. The exchange was around 4 in 2019 so that is $250 usd for overnight so lets say it drops to 4 again and you pay 2000 R still that is 500 usd. Pandemic is ending so the rate going down to 4 is in the near future. This now makes it really difficult for other mongers probably. For everyone that is paying 20000 R sake, please stop paying gringo prices. People ask me what is a fair rate and I said no more than 1500 R for overnight!
[QUOTE=Singe247;2675143]She's got a great ass, but from her twitter handle she looks horribly ugly without the makeup, and over 30. Not judging but each to his own.[/QUOTE]I don't know about anyone here, but the face is the last thing I look at. I ain't tryna wife the * plus I ain't into kissing these sluts knowing someone nutted in her mouth 15 minutes prior. But to each his own. Anywho if she got a nice body, good energy, then I'm game.
Also I'm going to try to go Sao Paula soon, if I get a chance I'm going to fuck her right in that great ass.
A little drunk.
So Aisha flakes and then doesn't flake, says she's hungover because she went out drinking till 5 in the morning. She told me she'dcome at 3 pm, no reply till then. Doesn't even read my messages. I'm sitting in my hotel room like a fool.
She replies by 5 pm saying she can come by 10 pm, and stay the night. I decline and tell her I'm going to Scandallo and ask her to come the next day. I still want to do something rather than waiting around so I call, yes call gabi because me and her have a very cool connect now. We spend the evening together going to the mall and then fugo de chao (surprise. I don't like it!) . We come back to the hotel room to fuck and on the elevator ride up she says and again I quote "you can slap me you know". Now gents, I know some guys would be really into this but I don't think I could ever do that even it's a pleasurable thing to a girl and she wants it done to her. So I don't do it. I can do light choking and hair pulling but that's about it as far as kinks. I would be interested to know thoughts on this kind of masochist stuff from the other members on the forum.
So after the hot sex in the room, (still no bareback), I tell her I want to see Aixa as Gabi lives with her. Gabi calls her and Aixa immediately picks up the phone and we schedule a rooftop bar date with the three of us. Aixa is a real drinker and goes through 5 drinks. I am happy with my blue label. Gabi barely drinks. Got both of them back to my hotel.
As I write this I have both of them naked on my bed speaking Portuguese and playing with each other with mood music on youtube. I needed a break from the fucking so I thought might as well update and write here. A lot of my objectives for Brazil have been accomplished and I am satisfied except the barebacking part. Both these girls are intelligent, educated and well travelled, so its harder to get them to that point. I might offer ludicrous amounts of cold cash maybe day after to convince them; I don't know I am still debating in my head what to do.
Both these girls are planning to go to Dubai in May, I told them places to go and I was also planning a trip to Dubai around then so hell I might fuck them in Dubai! Imagine that.
Cheers!
All of the gringos who are paying this much is the main cause of world wide inflation. Pretty soon its just going to be foreigners at Scandallo because No brazilians will pay this much for a girl no matter who she is.
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2675265]Way Overpriced. People go to Brasil to save money not pay USD rates. There are at least 100 Brazilian girls in South Florida save you the trip to BR.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spineda;2675286]I don't know about anyone here, but the face is the last thing I look at. [b]I ain't tryna wife the *[/b] plus [b]I ain't into kissing these sluts knowing someone nutted in her mouth 15 minutes prior. But to each his own[/b]. Anywho if she got a nice body, good energy, then I'm game.
Also I'm going to try to go Sao Paula soon, [b]if I get a chance I'm going to fuck her right in that great ass[/b].[/QUOTE]Oh, my goodness. LMAO!!
Apologies, new here. Tried to run a search on the forum for this question (and then a search on Google, but it never takes you to the thread it shows a section of).
I have a 2 week vacation coming up in April. The question is, for the only goal of mongering, which place has the best girls / quality sex:
- Sao Paulo.
- Rio.
- Colombia.
Don't care about the quality of food or weather. Literally just going to bang as many gorgeous women as possible, but the sex still has to be good (learned my lesson from American girls, never again going back to them).
Follow up question: My wallet was stolen recently, and so I do not have my drivers license and will not be getting a replacement soon enough. Is traveling with just my passport and photo copy of passport good enough? Don't want to get stranded overseas.
Thank you for your help!
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2675265]People go to Brasil to save money not pay USD rates.[/QUOTE]I don't know. I paid EUR 2700 for my flight to Brazil and a ticket to Spain would cost EUR 350. I don't save any money going to Brazil.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2675388]I don't know. I paid EUR 2700 for my flight to Brazil and a ticket to Spain would cost EUR 350. I don't save any money going to Brazil.[/QUOTE]That's some outrageous airfare man. Way, way too high! Where are you flying from? And in which class? Glad I have a lot of points with the airlines. With that kind of airfare you're darn right you aren't saving any money going to Brazil. Whew!
Go to Scandallo in Sao Paulo. End of story.
I been to all 3 places already. The talent level of the Termas in Rio have fallen. All the girls go to Sao Paulo to make the most of the money.
[QUOTE=HGrey;2675353]Apologies, new here. Tried to run a search on the forum for this question (and then a search on Google, but it never takes you to the thread it shows a section of).
I have a 2 week vacation coming up in April. The question is, for the only goal of mongering, which place has the best girls / quality sex:
- Sao Paulo.
- Rio.
- Colombia.
Don't care about the quality of food or weather. Literally just going to bang as many gorgeous women as possible, but the sex still has to be good (learned my lesson from American girls, never again going back to them).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HGrey;2675353]Apologies, new here. Tried to run a search on the forum for this question (and then a search on Google, but it never takes you to the thread it shows a section of).
I have a 2 week vacation coming up in April. The question is, for the only goal of mongering, which place has the best girls / quality sex:
- Sao Paulo.
- Rio.
- Colombia.
Don't care about the quality of food or weather. Literally just going to bang as many gorgeous women as possible, but the sex still has to be good (learned my lesson from American girls, never again going back to them).
Follow up question: My wallet was stolen recently, and so I do not have my drivers license and will not be getting a replacement soon enough. Is traveling with just my passport and photo copy of passport good enough? Don't want to get stranded overseas.
Thank you for your help![/QUOTE]I'm not the most experienced user on the site but IMO it all just depends on what scene you're most into. Esp. With such little travel time. Brazil, much like the USA is a multicultural country with many ethnicities. For example, if you read a couple pages back it's been stated previously that Sao Paulo has a huge Asian population. Brazilians are known for their party culture, openness to foreigners, and overall laid back attitude. Add in just how sexually open they are and the end result is a melting pot like Sao Paulo with a huge clubbing scene. Sao Paulo and Mexico City are the biggest cities in the entire Americas, both being fairly close in population. Sao Paulo is known for clubs like Scandallo whereas Rio has more of a therma and clinica scene.
Mexico City is also ridiculously huge but from my understanding, sex isn't as open. Population is huge though so you can easily get on Seeking Arrangements and find yourself a girl. And if you filter Seeking Arrangements down to CDMX you will notice that there are lot of girls. (as you'd expect of a metro area consisting of 20+ million people).
I need to RTFF the Colombia board more but Colombians in general are known for their genuine hospitality and probably being the most sensual people on this planet. Interact with any Colombiana on a web camming site and you will instantly know what I mean. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think in Medellin and Bogota you more or less have to be more wary that you actually know what you're doing and be a lot more careful to not find yourself in trouble. And trouble can happen fast. In the blink of an eye someone can jump off their moped, point a gun to your head, and bounce back on riding into the sunset no fucks given. Bogota is the bigger city and capital of the country (10 million population) with rainfall so think of it as comparable to a city like Paris. Medellin has a considerably smaller population (3 million) but attracts more tourism due to more sunshine so people there are more laid back and not as "go go go" as people in Bogota, Paris, or NYC would be. I think the type of person to live in NYC, Paris, or Bogota is more likely to be the kind to focus on a serious career rather than partying or webcamming. That's why I think Medellin is a better fit for those on a quick vacation whereas Bogota would be a great fit if you take your time, actually try to set a social circle & integrate, and stay for a couple months. Both have their street scenes for cheap (although Medellin more so since it attracts more tourism since it's a little more open) and it's obvious who is and isn't working. But from my understanding, the beauty of Colombia resides in the way you can basically approach as many non-pros as you are able and eventually you should end up with a girlfriend or at least a date. The girls are very genuine so she'll probably want to introduce you to her family and have her mother cook for you. I don't think I'd be comfortable travelling to Colombia without at least speaking basic Spanish first; Colombia can be fairly dangerous if you don't know what the fuck you are doing and Medellin / Bogota are no Sao Paulo, Rio, or Mexico City. You stick out as a foreigner. Esp. When you are green and people could openly discuss plans to hurt you to your face and you wouldn't even fucking know because you don't understand a lick of Spanish. If I were visiting Medellin I'd try to connect with a college girl on Seeking Arrangements and ask her to introduce you to her friends after a while. This is probably bad advice but Colombia has a huge webcam scene so I personally would try to connect with a girl on Chaturbate either through WhatsApp or Instagram a couple weeks prior to your trip and see if she wants to hang out for 2-3 days or fly her out to Medellin.
I know I'm repeating myself here but I want to reiterate that I think Bogota is a great move if you don't mind the weather and are actually able to bunker down for 2-3 months and work on your Spanish, establish a bit of a social circle, and actually integrate to some extent.
[QUOTE=HGrey;2675353].... The question is, for the only goal of mongering, which place has the best girls / quality sex:
- Sao Paulo.
- Rio.
- Colombia.
Don't care about the quality of food or weather. Literally just going to bang as many gorgeous women as possible, but the sex still has to be good (learned my lesson from American girls, never again going back to them).
Follow up question: My wallet was stolen recently, and so I do not have my drivers license and will not be getting a replacement soon enough. Is traveling with just my passport and photo copy of passport good enough? Don't want to get stranded overseas.
Thank you for your help![/QUOTE]If you are flexible with your budget, the least amount of work will be Rio termas (4x4, Solarium...), next will be Sao Paulo boates because you have to negotiate prices. Many here think Scandallo has the largest selection of the best girls but YMMV. You can just search the threads with the names mentioned above to know how things work and show up in one of these two cites. Colombia (Medellin and Bogota) has larger quantity, cheaper but it takes work to find best girls, assuming you are talking about the best girls similar to what you find in a boate.
The quality of sex will be better in Brazil for inexperienced mongers. GFE is default in most places while it is not in Colombia
Passport or passport card have worked for me. I have never used my driver license.
[QUOTE=HGrey;2675353]Apologies, new here. Tried to run a search on the forum for this question (and then a search on Google, but it never takes you to the thread it shows a section of).
I have a 2 week vacation coming up in April. The question is, for the only goal of mongering, which place has the best girls / quality sex:
- Sao Paulo.
- Rio.
- Colombia.[/QUOTE]If I were you I would book a multi city flight from your home city to SP and from RJ back to your home city. Then I would book a GOL one way Brazilian domestic flight from CGH to SDU. Since this is a 1st time trip I would schedule 1 week in SP and 1 week in RJ to find out which city I like more. Both towns are good, but they are very different.
Next I would RTFF going back at least 1 year. This will give you a list of the most liked Clinicas & Boates in SP and Prive's & Termas in RJ as well as a relative prices and what you can expect more or less.
A drivers license is not needed unless you want to rent a car. A passport is mandatory as is proof of vax and a negative covid test taken result 3 days before your plane leaves. You will not get into the country without them. A couple photo copies of your passport might come in handy. A reliable credit card and a good debit card like the Schwab Debit Card is very helpful tool. I don't leave home without these items.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2675394]That's some outrageous airfare man. Way, way too high! Where are you flying from? And in which class? Glad I have a lot of points with the airlines. With that kind of airfare you're darn right you aren't saving any money going to Brazil. Whew![/QUOTE]I always pay between EUR 2000-2700 in business class from Europe. And that's cheap. I have flown with Lufthansa, Air France, KLM and Iberia. I used to travel in economy and pay EUR 800, but I'm done traveling 16-20 hours packed like a sardine (I'm 6'4") in a middle seat in row 46. I work hard and go for vacation to Brazil. I go there to relax and do more than just mongering. I'm happy to pay for the comfort and arrive well rested to my destination. In March 2020 when the pandemic started and we didn't know much about the virus, just that people were dying like flies, I was specially happy that there wasn't anybody sitting close to me.
P.S. I also always buy a GOL max ticket, when flying domestic in Brazil. Fully changeable, first to board and first to leave the plane and 10 cms more leg space.
Air France A350 1-2-1 seating from my last trip.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2675583]I always pay between EUR 2000-2700 in business class from Europe. And that's cheap. I have flown with Lufthansa, Air France, KLM and Iberia. I used to travel in economy and pay EUR 800, but I'm done traveling 16-20 hours packed like a sardine (I'm 6'4") in a middle seat in row 46. I work hard and go for vacation to Brazil. I go there to relax and do more than just mongering. I'm happy to pay for the comfort and arrive well rested to my destination. In March 2020 when the pandemic started and we didn't know much about the virus, just that people were dying like flies, I was specially happy that there wasn't anybody sitting close to me.
P.S. I also always buy a GOL max ticket, when flying domestic in Brazil. Fully changeable, first to board and first to leave the plane and 10 cms more leg space.
Air France A350 1-2-1 seating from my last trip.[/QUOTE]I'm done flying Economy Class too. Got tired of showing up with my neck hurting! I fly either First Class or Premium Class these days. As I said, lucky for me I have one hell of a lot of frequent flyer miles. Combine that with flying from the States versus Europe, and I'm able to score good deals on flights price-wise when I travel. There was a time when I thought I would be stuck flying Economy forever. But I've finally broken through. And after the first time I flew First Class? I knew that I could [B]never ever[/B] go back to being crushed in Coach again! Paying extra for First Class or Premium Class is most definitely worth it to me.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2675499]...Colombia (Medellin and Bogota) has larger quantity, cheaper but it takes work to find best girls, assuming you are talking about the best girls similar to what you find in a boate.
The quality of sex will be better in Brazil for inexperienced mongers. GFE is default in most places while it is not in Colombia
Passport or passport card have worked for me. I have never used my driver license.[/QUOTE]For Colombia, I prefer Cartagena over Bogota. You have the beach, nice tropical weather, great food, and a ton of beautiful women.
I flew home from Brazil a few nights ago but before I left Sao Paulo, I was fortunate to spend the last 12 hours in my hotel room with a sexy, beautiful, kind, and affectionate Brazilian lady that I met on my first night. It was the perfect way to end my trip as she walked me out of the hotel, hugged me, and kissed me goodbye as I got into my Uber to leave for the airport. So hard to say goodbye to this lady!
My trip to Brazil was prompted by seeing Scandallo mentioned on another forum on ISG a couple months ago. Rio was on my bucket list of places to visit as a tourist, but Brazil was never a place I thought to visit as a hobbyist. That is until I started reading this forum and learning about Scandallo and what SP offered. For weeks I did my best to research SP and Rio to plan out a good trip. I even sought out the advice on this forum and many of you contributed (much thanks).
Despite doing a fair amount of research, I made a lot of mistakes and found myself adapting my plans during my stay in Brazil. For the purposes of this post, I am going to do my best to share those mistakes as well as things I learned during my trip that might be helpful for first-timers or those considering a trip to SP and Rio.
Before I get into my mistakes, I want to share that I used VeriFLY to upload all of my COVID vaccination and test results. It's free and super easy to use. I had to show the pass on my phone upon my departure and my arrival. I also ordered my Abbott COVID test kits on [URL]eMed.com[/URL] and it was relatively easy to take the COVID test in my hotel room the day prior to my departure. It takes 15 minutes to get the results and then upload the results to VeriFLY.
As for local transportation, I used Uber throughout my trip and while they were relatively quick to pick me up whenever I needed a ride, when I ordered an Uber Black I often got a Toyota Corolla or Nissan Sentra. Uber's requirements for what constitutes Black or Comfort is not the same as in the US. There are a ton of Uber drivers in SP and Rio but most drive compact cars and many did not offer air conditioning. I did find one Uber driver with a nice mid-size car and I used him for an entire afternoon for are are $100. He spoke great English which was refreshing.
One of my first considerations for my trip was my itinerary. I anticipated flying into GRU on a Friday morning, giving myself about 10 days in Brazil, and flying back late on a Sunday evening. I debated how much time I should spend in SP and how much in Rio. I ultimately decided to fly from SP to Rio on Tuesday morning and return to SP on Saturday afternoon. A few weeks before my trip I went ahead a booked flights on Azul Airlines out of CGH and into SDU. This proved to be the biggest mistake of my trip. With Azul, you really do not need to book weeks in advance and they have a terrible cancellation and change policy. I could have easily booked a one-way flight to Rio the day before and paid about the same fare. I should have flown to Rio on Sunday and maybe stayed 1 or 2 days since Sunday is a really quiet day in SP with Scandallo and most of the clinicas being closed. As for Rio, I wanted to see some of the tourist sites, walk on the beach, and see the most popular termas. I could have easily done this in two days. Hindsight being 20/20, I should have booked a one-way flight to Rio for Sunday morning and then booked a one-way return to SP on Tuesday morning. I will post my Rio trip on that Forum, but suffice it to say, once one experiences Scandallo and the clinicas in SP, there is just no comparison to what Rio offers. I know those that love the Rio scene will protest this, but this is simply one person's opinion. For me, my wants and my likes, SP is where I wish that I spent my time.
As for some other mistakes and logistical challenges, I decided to purchase international roaming from my US phone carrier rather than buy a SIM card once I arrived in Brazil. This proved to be a mistake, as I had nothing but problems with phone service in Brazil and also burned through a lot of data very quickly. I am not a tech wiz but I quickly learned that running the Uber app during my trips was burning my int'l roaming data. Also, I found there were just really bad times when I was some place without wifi and could not get a good cell signal to get an Uber or send / receive texts.
Additionally, I found it very difficult to locate ATM machines and when I did find one could not get access to cash from any of my three banks that I use despite calling each one prior to my trip to advise them of my international travel. My first two days in SP, I spent a lot of time trying to get cash and even with the big banks in the area, my ATM cards were being rejected. I have never experienced this in any other international city and it really worried me initially because I am a guy that likes having cash. Go to Bangkok or Zurich and there are banks and ATM machines on every corner that reliably work. This was not the case in Brazil. I recall being in the Uber on my first night in SP and no ATMs would work and my cellphone wasn't working either. As it turns out, the only time I really needed cash was for a lady I met in my hotel lobby one night in Rio.
Lastly, when it comes to hotels, I stayed at the Hyatt in SP for my first few nights and the Sheraton at the end of my trip. The Hyatt was nice, had a very nice club lounge, was a short walk to a nearby mall. I don't know if this is considered girlfriendly, but I was called down to the front desk after I entered the hotel and got to my room with my lady from Scandallo one evening. They wanted me to come downstairs with my lady and register her. They also wanted me to pay a guest fee. I had a grand suite and thought it was ridiculous to pay a guest fee since my reservation was for two people. I was not going to drag my lady downstairs to register and told them so. I did not book a suite at the Sheraton, but my room was really large and I had four ladies in my room over 36 hours and not one of them was stopped and needed to register. They also had a number of restaurant options in the mall attached to the hotel. The only downsides were that I could not find a news channel in English and none of the plugs in the room were USB or compatible for US plugs. I only had one plug adapter and they had none to offer at the front desk. I think I would stay at the Renaissance or splurge and stay at Fasano if I ever go back to SP.
The main purpose of my trip to SP was to visit the famous Scandallo. This boate absolutely lived up to its reputation and even exceeded my expectations. It is much larger than I anticipated and is a very well-run business.
I never found some of this information reported in this forum so I thought I would share some more details on Scandallo so newbies know what to expect. As you pull up to the large building and before you enter the building you are scanned by security guard for weapons. After you enter the building, you walk up to the registration desk area and provide your identification. The lady enters your information in their computer, and she then hands you card with a number on it. This card serves as your personal charge card for food and beverages. During my visit, consumption was $200 and the cover was $200. At this point you pay nothing and do not even have to pay your cover or put a credit card on file. You have to show your card to security to enter the elevator and go up to the main floor.
Once you get off the elevator there is a small bar area and a really large sofa where some of the ladies lounge and watch customers come off the elevators. If you walk past the bar there are sliding glass doors that go to the big club area. Continue through the club and you enter a sitting area with big sofas. Turn left and you enter a gigantic outdoor area with a very long bar, lots of tables and comfortable areas to sit and relax. The entrance to the huge restaurant is behind the small bar area after you get off the elevator. I noticed that my phone only picked up wifi in the small bar area and in the restaurant. I could not pick up wifi in the club or outside area.
When you select a lady to take upstairs to a room, you go up one level where there are cashiers that take your payment for the lady. When you are done in the room, this is also where you return to pay the room fee. For some reason, you do not pay for the lady and room fee at the same time. This is also where you pay to take the lady out of the club for the evening. Oddly, they do not take AMEX for the ladies or the room charges. Once your visit is complete, you return to the registration desk on the ground level and turn your charge card back in. This is when you pay for your cover and consumption. They do take AMEX here. The lady will give you a ticket that you will present to security that permits you to leave the club and show you have paid.
I found the service at Scandallo to be equal to what one would find at a bar in a 5-star hotel. I would describe the establishment as classy and beautiful inside. The staff is friendly and courteous. There are a lot of places around the world that one could compare Scandallo to, but I really don't think there is any place I have ever been quite like it. They serve the coldest Heineken I have ever had and I found their food to be delicious and well presented. Again, an extremely well-run business.
Now for the ladies. I found most of the ladies to be very attractive and friendly. Most do not speak English, but I found many that did. These ladies are all well-groomed. Hair, makeup and nails all done perfectly as if they were going out to a night club looking their best to meet the man of their dreams. There are women of all shapes and sizes. I saw many thin ladies and some very skinny. I also saw a lot of curvy ladies. Some had large tattoos but many did not or they were covered by their clothing. On the downside, women know how to cover their flaws and you never really know what a lady looks like naked until that dress comes off.
This is my personal Scandallo experience if you are interested.
I went to Scandallo on Friday, Saturday, Monday and again on the next Saturday. I typically arrived between 9-10 pm. I was told by many girls at the club that the best nights are Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. I was told that 90% of their customers are local men and most are married. It is easier for these married men to come in mid-week than it is to get away from the wives on a Friday or Saturday night. For this reason, more girls work mid-week because this is when their regulars come in. I noticed that the management does not allow the ladies to have their phones on them except for when they go to a room with a client. This is really smart! Imagine what this boate would be like if you walked in and all of the ladies had their heads in their phones?
Since I am a gringo, I really stood out and the girls knew I was not a local especially since I have blue eyes and don't speak Portuguese. I think being an American gringo worked in my favor with some ladies and against me with other ladies because I am so different than their regular customers. I got the impression that many ladies wish they could speak English and I also noticed that others were almost afraid of trying to communicate with me. Many I spoke with talked about their desire to travel to Europe and the United States (most think of Miami, LA and NYC when they think of the USA). There were some that I met that have traveled internationally to work.
I went with four garotas during my four nights that I visited. On my first night I met garota #1 in the restaurant and her face was just gorgeous. She was sitting with a friend in the restaurant and was so beautiful that I stopped at her table to speak with her. I did not waste time since I was tired from traveling, so after a little small talk quickly asked her to go to a room. Despite there being some communication challenges, we had remarkable chemistry. I met garota #2 in the outdoor lounge area later in the evening. She was very thin. Almost skinny like a European model with a beautiful tan body. The intimacy with garota #2 was off the charts even though I was tired and didn't have a lot of give after being with garota #1.
On Saturday evening, I sat with garota #1 for about an hour chatting and asked her to come back to my hotel for the evening. She seemed to want to socialize and speak to her other clients and didn't really commit. I walked the club and met garota #3 at the bar in the outdoor area. She was blonde and appeared to have a remarkable body. Somewhat thin but with big boobs. At first she was very uncomfortable about speaking with me, but once I bought her a drink and showed her we could communicate through Google Translate, she relaxed. We were discussing going up to a room when I saw garota #2 enter the outdoor area. She was wearing very classy cotton blue pants and a white top. She looked gorgeous! I made up an excuse and ditched garota #3 and immediately took garota #2 upstairs. What started off as hot and passionate soon fizzled when she began to complain that the sex was hurting her. Now realistically speaking, given how thin she was, it was reasonable to conclude that I could have been causing discomfort, but something told me that she went home with someone on Friday night and was sore. Regardless, she finished me BBBJCIM but I was still disappointed and she knew that she disappointed me.
Monday evening was unique given how few customers there were and yet there were a ton of girls. I would say there were 10-15 girls for every customer. I did not see garota #1 or #2 but I did see #3 and she was sitting with a customer. She looked amazing. And yes, I often find a lady often looks more desirable to me when she is with another man. I tried unsuccessfully to get her attention, but she completely ignored me. I then noticed that she left the table and went to the restroom. I casually approached her as she was walking back to her table and she cussed me out in Portuguese. I have no idea what she said, but I could tell she remembered me ditching her on Saturday evening. I quickly moved on and found garota #4. Another beautiful lady that was thin and dressed very sexy. We quickly went up to a room and she performed well enough that I invited her to my hotel for the evening. We were out the door and in an Uber in 15 minutes. Garota #4 became incredibly affectionate in the Uber and back at the hotel. She provided complete GFE that evening and we discussed her coming to Rio but I thought it was foolish to bring sand to the beach. She messaged me the entire time I was in Rio and we discussed getting together when I returned on Saturday. Sadly, I made other plans and did not see her again. I should have brought her to Rio!
While I was in Rio, garota #1 and I messaged each other every day and discussed seeing each other on Saturday and Sunday. We made plans for dinner on Saturday evening but she wasn't replying to my messages on Saturday afternoon. After Twitter girl #2 left my hotel, I showered and headed to Scandallo. I immediately saw garota #1 in the restaurant visiting with one of her friends. She made some excuse about going to lunch with a client and then going to the club after her lunch. I told her that I wanted her to come back to my hotel that night and she indicated that she had many clients in the club that wanted to talk to her and she went off kind of like she did on Saturday night. This is when I ran into garota #3 and tried to approach her. She was much more receptive to speaking with me, but I could tell she was still pissed about the previous Saturday night. Even though I really wanted to take garota #1 back to my hotel and spend all day with her on Sunday, garota #3 gave me a number for pernoite that I wasn't going to pass up. Just as luck would have it, as I was closing out my bill for the evening and garota #3 was standing by my side at the reception desk, I noticed garota #1 sitting on a sofa right behind me and I could tell that she was pissed.
Unlike garota #4 who was super affectionate once I paid her pernoite, garota #3 was a cold btch the entire way to the hotel. Back in the room she got right down to business. As she came out of the bathroom naked, I quickly noticed that she had a very badly botched boob job and lots of scars. I also thought it was odd that she wanted to have sex with her panties still on and just move them aside. Given that I am a little like Jerry Seinfeld and can get easily distracted by a woman's flaws (like nasty feet), the site of this garota's botched boobs distracted me enough that it kept me from getting hard for her. Granted, I had sex twice several hours before. Since she was such a btch in the first place, I politely asked her to leave even though we had originally agreed that she would stay til 8:00 am. I know this might sound crazy to some, but I would just assume throw away that money than spend an entire night with a btch that can't turn me on. I really should have done an hour with her at Scandallo before inviting her to my hotel.
After garota #3 left my room, I checked my phone and noticed that garota #1 had been blowing up my phone with messages. She was pissed that I left the club with garota #3 and it turns out that they didn't like each other. She let me have it for leaving with another garota and claimed that she had planned on leaving with me. At 6 am on Sunday morning I got a message from garota #1 that she was in my lobby and to come down to get her. She was happy to see that garota #3 was not in my room and to learn that I asked her to leave because I thought she was a btch She still gave me a lot of shit for ever taking the other garota, but then informed me that she did not come to my room to argue and wanted to be with me until I left later that evening. We spent the next 12 hours in bed together. This lady ranks at the top of my list as one of the most affectionate women I have ever met. It was an amazing way to end my trip to Brazil and left me wanting to see her again for more.
When it comes to entertainment, I was in SP primarily to visit Scandallo but I did a lot of research prior to my trip in the event that I needed other options. I researched most of the clinicas in the area that were frequently mentioned in posts on this forum. I was getting the status updates from the clinicas on WhatsApp in the weeks leading up to my trip and there were about 6 ladies that I really wanted to see during the days. The week before my departure to Brazil all but one of the clinica girls I wanted to see disappeared off the daily status and when I messaged the clinicas was advised that they quit working there.
Given that most of the ladies at the clinicas that I wanted to meet had quit right before my arrival, I decided to take an Uber on Saturday afternoon and hit some of the ones in the Moema area with my first destination being Prime. On my way from the Hyatt to Prime a storm came down on SP like you would not believe. There was torrential rain and even hail pounding down on my Uber on the drive over to Prime. It was almost as if the man above was trying to send me a message to stop. I got drenched in the seconds exiting my Uber and entering Prime. Over the next two hours I visited Prime, Abbora, Miruna, Spa MOAH and Lotus Lounge and saw the presentations at each. I was wet, cold, tired, hungry and did not see one lady that I was interested in. I was growing increasingly discouraged because there were so many ladies at these clinicas with large tattoos or they were not my preferred body type. There were no ladies comparable to what I saw at Scandallo the night before. The most promising clinica was Lotus Lounge but at the time I arrived there were only two ladies available. I decided to make a reservation for one of the more popular ladies at Lotus Lounge to come back on Monday and I was scheduled to be her first appointment of the day at 11:30 am.
I messaged Lotus Lounge on Monday morning about 30 minutes before my appointment to confirm. I was given confirmation and ordered my Uber. I arrived at my scheduled appointment time and was told upon entering that my lady had not arrived yet and they were unable to reach her by phone. I sat and waited for about 15 minutes and was told that they still had not made contact with her. There were no other ladies available that I was interested in so I made my way over to Taj Mahal. I had one session with an attractive lady and then did another session with two other ladies. I spent most of my Monday afternoon at Taj Mahal Spa and left there absolutely exhausted. I felt like I had just run in the Boston Marathon I was so tired and drained. During my time at the Taj Mahal I was messaged by the Lotus Lounge to tell me the lady I was supposed to meet earlier had arrived and asked if I wanted to come over. I almost accepted but the ladies at the Taj Mahal took everything out of me and I needed something left for Scandallo that night.
I researched and identified about 7-8 ladies that I found on Twitter and other web sites that looked great and two of which I was really determined to meet. I had made contact with many of them prior to my flight to SP to get their hourly rates, etc. Two weeks before my trip one of the Twitter ladies messaged me that she was taking a long vacation and would not be seeing clients for two months. Another Twitter lady messaged me that she was going to remain in Europe working and would not be returning during my time in SP. Given that Scandallo and most of the clinicas are closed on Sunday, I tried to schedule appointments with some of the Twitter girls on Sunday for later that night but completely struck out. Most wanted to schedule on Monday. Since I already made plans for Monday to go to Lotus Lounge at 11:30, I decided to schedule 2 Twitter girls for the afternoon and early evening. Unfortunately, I had to cancel on both girls because of my decision to indulge in 4-5 hours of lustful fun at the Taj Mahal.
Upon my return from Rio, I scheduled two appointments with two separate Twitter ladies on Saturday afternoon. The first arrived on time and her pictures were somewhat accurate but were definitely filtered because she looked a little older in person. She had a deep raspy voice, smelled like a French hooker and was definitely a smoker. My main turnoff was that she had these terribly dried callused feet. Given my phobia of nasty feet and that she was already in my hotel room, I got right down to business, paid her and thanked her. Twitter girl #2 arrived about three hours later. Her online photos looked so amazing that I considered keeping her all night. I even cancelled my plans with one of the Taj Mahal girls that offered to see me on Saturday evening. When I met Twitter girl #2 in the lobby, she was probably 4'10" and as bow legged as Bucky Dent (anyone remember the Yankee shortstop?) She was an attractive lady but was not the thin spinner that I was expecting. In this case, her online photos did represent her body frame. She had very hairy, short, bowed legs. She was not what I was expecting but once again, she was already in my room, so we got to business, and she was politely paid and left my hotel. Both ladies were probably each in my room for 20 minutes. So disappointed!
I know ladies are very creative in using filters and often photoshop their images, but girl #2 was a huge disappointment. Fortunately, each girl was only about R500 are which is less than $100 USD so it was not like I spent a lot of money. I think that I would still pursue some of the girls I found on Twitter had I stayed longer in SP, but I think I would ask for unedited photos and not commit to more than one hour for the first visit.
Like many of you, I have traveled all over the world and have had some remarkable experiences. When it comes to this trip, I absolutely fell in love with the beauty and passion of Brazilian women. I think Scandallo is an amazing place, but I actually prefer going to a place like Globe in Zurich more because I'm surrounded by sexy women parading around the club naked. Admittely, I just love being around lots of naked women! I went with 4 garotas at Scandallo because they looked beautiful in what they were wearing but 3 of the four were very thin and had no boobs. What's wrong with being thin and having big boobs? The one garota I was with that was thin with big boobs had a botched boob job which I didn't uncover until she was paid and in my hotel room. I can only imagine how amazing Scandallo would be if the ladies were all wearing sexy lingerie or something that showed more of their bodies. Don't get me wrong, I would absolutely recommend to anyone that they go and experience Scandallo, but it is hard to say if I will be returning any time in the near future given the long flight. I will acknowledge that had I not gone to Rio during my trip, I likely would have been able to spend more time with the Scandallo ladies and would probably feel more drawn to go back. Garota #1 sure did tug on my heart over those last 12 hours.
Moscow had been on my bucket list prior to COVID but I certainly won't be going there due to the war in Ukraine, so a trip to the Philippines is probably next for me as well as return trips to Bangkok and Zurich. Also, with Canada dropping their pre-departure COVID testing as of April 1st, I see myself visiting Toronto for long weekend trips. I personally think Toronto is one of the best cities in the world for hobbyists to visit especially for Americans.
Met a Scandallo girl outside today, saw her on Wednesday and said I definately need to speak with her, but someone went to speak to her before me and after that she dissapeared for the day. Decide to go the next day and lucky I saw her and spoke with her, got her number and planned to meet, so when I met her today, waited for her at the restaurant Banzeiro, which is an Amazonian cuisine that I wished I knew of. It was delicious, and unique.
Anyway, what happened next is she got down of the car, and when I looked at her, she is without any makeup, in jeans, and a top. I was like wth is this LOL, the no makeup part is the one that I was shocked with, she looked like she has been studying for a day and have not had time to clean herself up, hahaha.
Back at the hotel, I realised she is actually a pretty girl, better with makeup. And we had a great time together. It sucks real bad that I'm leaving in a couple of days, and we can't meet again for a few months, wished I saw her on my first day.
On Tuesday night, saw this cute girl Catherine / Katherine, she was so business like, asked her to sit down, and after awhile she asked if I'm interested in bringing someone out today, or upstairs today, I said yes, and I'm finding and want to. So I bought her a gin and tonic, and continue speaking to get to know her, once the gin and tonic came, she wanted to leave, and I asked her why is she leaving, and she said that I'm not interested in bringing anyone me back today, LOL. Maan, if I'm not interested, I would not have bought you a drink, a red flag that I gladly avoided after, but she does look so hot, next night, I saw that she will not be my type because she is too flat on the ass, LOL.
Few nights ago on Monday, went to Cafe foto, the food menu was lacking and not too much to eat, and girls were not that good looking either. When I went to Scandallo the next day, you can really see the difference by 100%, Scandallo girls do look and dress better.
Restaurant Banzeiro- is an Amazonian restaurant that everyone needs to try once if in Sao Paulo or never been to the Amazon.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2675499]If you are flexible with your budget, the least amount of work will be Rio termas (4x4, Solarium...), next will be Sao Paulo boates because you have to negotiate prices. Many here think Scandallo has the largest selection of the best girls but YMMV. You can just search the threads with the names mentioned above to know how things work and show up in one of these two cites. Colombia (Medellin and Bogota) has larger quantity, cheaper but it takes work to find best girls, assuming you are talking about the best girls similar to what you find in a boate.
The quality of sex will be better in Brazil for inexperienced mongers. GFE is default in most places while it is not in Colombia
Passport or passport card have worked for me. I have never used my driver license.[/QUOTE]Thank you to everyone who responded! I greatly appreciate it. Leaning much more to visiting both Sao Paulo and Rio, and pushing my trip to Colombia to be later when my Spanish is better.
If I may ask a follow up question, what is the best hotel to stay at in Sao Paulo and Rio? As far as location and ability to bring girls over (seen some stories of girls wanting to meet outside the club).
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2675939]This is my personal Scandallo experience if you are interested.
more.[/QUOTE]When speaking with few girls, they let me know every race has a type in there, Asians typically only like very skinny girls, with no ass, or in their words seca, magrinha, not sure about the boobs part, and also they ignore girls with dark skin.
That is why you see some girls are not too daring to speak with you.
This makes it not good for me because I need to fend of skinny, seca magrinha girls every time I'm there LOL. I like girls with a curvy ass, not dry LOL, and with at least be cups, of course she has to look pretty too.
The 4 times I was there, it got jaded because it was the same girls day to day.
Good reports ATexGuy. I am looking forward to my next trip to SP in April.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2675934]My trip to Brazil was prompted by seeing Scandallo mentioned on another forum on ISG a couple months ago. Rio was on my bucket list of places to visit as a tourist, but Brazil was never a place I thought to visit as a hobbyist.[/QUOTE]Great series of reports detailing your experiences. Good read.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2675943]What's wrong with being thin and having big boobs? The one garota I was with that was thin with big boobs had a botched boob job which I didn't uncover until she was paid and in my hotel room.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your detailed reports. Very useful and good points to consider. My worst experience last trip was with a Scandallo girl and it was all my own fault. I got hypnotized by her huge tits and ignored the bad breath and the chicken legs and all the signs that it wouldn't be a great session.
Taj Mahal Spa.
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I just finished reading ATexGuy's epic adventure and seemed to more than enjoy this Clínica which I haven't been to. I looked it up, it's in Moema! It's a higher end Clínica with a tablet presentation and massage first. Look like it's 350 r for the hour. Got to add to list of Clínicas to try.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2675934]As for Rio, I wanted to see some of the tourist sites, walk on the beach, and see the most popular termas. I could have easily done this in two days. Hindsight being 20/20, I should have booked a one-way flight to Rio for Sunday morning and then booked a one-way return to SP on Tuesday morning. I will post my Rio trip on that Forum, but suffice it to say, once one experiences Scandallo and the clinicas in SP, there is just no comparison to what Rio offers. I know those that love the Rio scene will protest this, but this is simply one person's opinion. For me, my wants and my likes, SP is where I wish that I spent my time.[/QUOTE]Agreed. After seeing Cristo, Pão de Açúcar and Copacabana beach, I can't think of any reason going back there, except maybe staying few nights in Copacabana Palace.
Friday, with not much to do, had a date set up with a Scandallo girl to stay whole night with me, decide to go to Tulum bar, Banana Cafe, but say these places were crowded, and went back into uber planning to go back to hotel. In the car I was at 2 minds as to should I go to Cafe foto again just to see, or go back to hotel, She convinced me to lets go to Cafe foto as she have never been either. This girl is at least a 8 in my books, with bunda the right size, and about my height 5'7.
350 Reais for entrance with 150 consumable, 350 each for man and lady. Atmosphere is more relaxed but still party atmosphere, 100% better than Lotus Club. Not too many girls, but my girl noticed 2 other girls that works in Scandallo and pointed out to me, and told me one of the girl is actually very pretty, could not see at first as she was quite far, and quite dark. Curly long black haired lady with white long pants and shirt, can't really judge how would she look without it, but from the shape of her pants, I know she has some beautiful legs. Ll. She walked and chatted at 2 tables before standing on the sidelines, still I am quite unwilling LOL, so my girl ask me if we should talk with her, and next thing, she came and sit and chatted for abit. She does look pretty 8. 5/10 when she sat down. Eccentric lady, who is a personal trainer. I guess the others did not pick her because she does not have big boobs, and thank god I ignored that part at the time as I really wanted my trip to end on a high, as I did not have a good threesome with an acomphantes and her friend on SPlove, both girls are not pretty, and avoid kissing. That is also why I always don't care about girls that her face obscured. But the one girl was tall and has perfect natural the cups. Soo whatever.
Went to Asturias, and damn when after she cleaned up and took off everything and came into the Jacuzzi, I could see her more clearly and god damn, she is at least a 10. She said she works at Scandallo and come at 10 pm, but I for have never seen her there before. How did I miss this one? LOL, she went to Cafe Foto on Friday because she said its not good in Scandallo on Friday. She has at least an A cup, not totally flat but the ass and body and face are like a goddess, just god damn. This became the best threesome I had, and best night. But my god the ass LOL.
Also, there is some kind of celebrity at Renaissance, not sure who, but see many people in the lobby and outside on the streets, and hear shouting and cheering.
Am currently trying to schedule another date with her again, hopefully I can before my flight on Sunday.
Great report thank you! Maybe we were at Scandallo at the same time. Love the place!
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2675943]Like many of you, I have traveled all over the world and have had some remarkable experiences. When it comes to this trip, I absolutely fell in love with the beauty and passion of Brazilian women. I think Scandallo is an amazing place, but I actually prefer going to a place like Globe in Zurich more because I'm surrounded by sexy women parading around the club naked. Admittely, I just love being around lots of naked women! I went with 4 garotas at Scandallo because they looked beautiful in what they were wearing but 3 of the four were very thin and had no boobs. What's wrong with being thin and having big boobs? The one garota I was with that was thin with big boobs had a [/QUOTE]
Great Report, ATex. I enjoyed reading it. Scandallo is a world class bordello. I didn't believe all the hype until I went there a few times and experienced it for myself. It rates right up there with my favorite bordellos: Rio Sauna (Macau), Malio Club (Jakarta) and the Lord (BKK: now closed because they were caught stealing city water).
RJ is good, but it has no brothel to compare with Scandallo. I guess it is obvious which city I prefer. KKK. But as much as I enjoy nights at Scandallo, I am glad SP has other Boates worth going to. Bomboa, for example, is very different and a lot of fun too. I met some great girls there. Casarao is also worthy. And don't forget the Moema Clinicas which offer the best afternoon bang for your buck this side of the Atlantic Ocean.
These venues are the main reasons to keep coming back to SP and the girls of course. Duh. I have 3.5 weeks to go until I return. Can't wait!
I arrived Saturday morning from USA. Rented a car and was at the Marriott executive apartments by 2:30. I had a date scheduled with someone I had met three years ago and had kept in touch with me. At 5:00 I had not heard from her so I went to Tangara Clinic. Met a wonderful Julia there and spent an hour making love to a pretty young girl but I held back on finishing. The girl could not understand and was scared I would be unhappy. I told her it was my plan and we decided to keep in touch. While I was with her my date texted that her son was sick and she could not come. So, I texted someone else that I had met in 2018 and she said she would love to see me. At 9:00 I walked two blocks from my hotel to get a pizza and By 10:00 she was at my hotel. We ate pizza, drank some wine and she chastised me for not keeping in touch better. We started cuddling on the couch and it did not take long before she initiated some kissing, all our clothes were off and then into the bed. I had remembered that she was hot blooded but man I was blown away. Many orgasms later we were spent and I started to go to sleep. She started rubbing my chest and brought me back up again for another round. Then this morning we were at it again. LOL Impressive time for a man in his 60's.
I still have another date next week with someone else I had met before.
I have not had this kind of love and affection any where else.
[QUOTE=Nuupter;2675949]...........waited for her at the restaurant Banzeiro, which is an Amazonian cuisine that I wished I knew of. It was delicious, and unique.
Restaurant Banzeiro- is an Amazonian restaurant that everyone needs to try once if in Sao Paulo or never been to the Amazon.[/QUOTE]Great tip Nuupter. Did you try the lemon ants? They're pretty tasty. I read an article of someone eating them alive off a reed in the Amazon. They said it was a funny, tickly feeling. I wouldn't go that far and eat them alive.
Although I prefer ocean fish, it's interesting to try pirarucu and other unusual river fish.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2676667]Great tip Nuupter. Did you try the lemon ants? They're pretty tasty. I read an article of someone eating them alive off a reed in the Amazon. They said it was a funny, tickly feeling. I wouldn't go that far and eat them alive.
Although I prefer ocean fish, it's interesting to try pirarucu and other unusual river fish.[/QUOTE]OH Ya we did. The girl that wanted me to show me that restaurant said hehehe, they have formiga here. I wondered what that is till she ordered it. She ate it without a flinch, and it took me about 5 minutes to put that 1 ant into my mouth, and almost spit the ant out trying to bite down lmao! That's how hard it was for me to eat insects LOL. It did taste good though, but never again haha. Yea the pirorucu and thamaqui is good. We had the costelinha tambaqui, and few others. The ant that has only 2 inside lukily, or that girl going to keep on laughing while watching me have a hard time LOL.
Went there again at night for dinner on the same day, but with different girl, wonder what they think of me hahaha.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2675940]When it comes to entertainment, I was in SP primarily to visit Scandallo but I did a lot of research prior to my trip in the event that I needed other options. I researched most of the clinicas in the area that were frequently mentioned in posts on this forum. I was getting the status updates from the clinicas on WhatsApp in the weeks leading up to my trip and there were about 6 ladies that I really wanted to see during the days. The week before my departure to Brazil all but one of the clinica girls I wanted to see disappeared off the daily status and when I messaged the clinicas was advised that they quit working there.
Given that most of the ladies at the clinicas that I wanted to meet had quit right before my arrival, I decided to take an Uber on Saturday afternoon and hit some of the ones in the Moema area with my first destination being Prime. On my way from the Hyatt to Prime a storm came down on SP like you would not believe. There was torrential rain and even hail pounding down on my Uber on the drive over to Prime. It was almost as if the man above was trying to send me a message to stop. I got drenched in the seconds exiting my Uber and entering Prime. Over the next two hours I visited Prime, Abbora, Miruna, Spa MOAH and Lotus Lounge and saw the presentations at each. I was wet, cold, tired, hungry and did not see one lady that I was interested in. I was growing increasingly discouraged because there were so many ladies at these clinicas with large tattoos or they were not my preferred body type. There were no ladies comparable to what I saw at Scandallo the night before. The most promising clinica was Lotus Lounge but at the time I arrived there were only two ladies available. I decided to make a reservation for one of the more popular ladies at Lotus Lounge to come back on Monday and I was scheduled to be her first appointment of the day at 11:30 am..[/QUOTE]Hi,
Where is Where is Spa MOAH located?
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2675934]I flew home from Brazil a few nights ago but before I left Sao Paulo, I was fortunate to spend the last 12 hours in my hotel room with a sexy, beautiful, kind, and affectionate Brazilian lady that I met on my first night. It was the perfect way to end my trip as she walked me out of the hotel, hugged me, and kissed me goodbye as I got into my Uber to leave for the airport. So hard to say goodbye to this lady!
My trip to Brazil was prompted by seeing Scandallo mentioned on another forum on ISG a couple months ago. Rio was on my bucket list of places to visit as a tourist, but Brazil was never a place I thought to visit as a hobbyist. That is until I started reading this forum and learning about Scandallo and what SP offered. For weeks I did my best to research SP and Rio to plan out a good trip. I even sought out the advice on this forum and many of you contributed (much thanks).
Despite doing a fair amount of research, I made a lot of mistakes and found myself adapting my plans during my stay in Brazil. For the purposes of this post, I am going to do my best to share those mistakes as well as things I learned during my trip that might be helpful for first-timers or those considering a trip to SP and Rio.
Before I get into my mistakes, I want to share that I used VeriFLY to upload all of my COVID vaccination and test results. It's free and super easy to use. I had to show the pass on my phone upon my departure and my arrival. I also ordered my Abbott COVID test kits on [URL]eMed.com[/URL] and it was relatively easy to take the COVID test in my hotel room the day prior to my departure. It takes 15 minutes to get the results and then upload the results to VeriFLY...[/QUOTE]Thank you for this contribution!
Could you also share your good experiences in the Clinicas?
Been spending a lot of time with the reference girl, she keeps very busy. She has told me not to share her number anywhere so that's that. She usually comes to me around 3 pm and then leaves 7 pm for a few hours and then comes back to sleep with me at 10 pm for the night. She has a Chinese boyfriend, 40 years old with a yacht and all. She has a car and a fancy Prada bag given to her as gifts by this guy. She doesn't have a drivers license LOL. She is Argentinian.
She loves to party, like goes through a bottle of vodka 3 times a week at different clubs. We went to a bar / club called MAHAU, it was me, and 2 girls and one of their friends who was gay. The girls refused to let me pay for their drinks or for their time. Good mix of electronic music and Brazilian funk music' I was making out with and grinding with both the girls the whole night. I had my hands all over their bodies all the time and they seemed to enjoy it. If I took my hand off; they'd make a face and take my hand and put it on their ass. Good times.
A note on drugs in Brazil. Both the girls and the gay guy do drugs and so do a lot of girls here in SP. According to Gabi; she showed me a menu of all sorts of drugs. It was like a restaurant menu with pictures and everything!. That's something I have never seen before! They bought MD and were going to a rave at a rooftop party one night. The last night with the girl, she didn't ask for any money so I just opened her purse and put some in. She doesn't let me pay parking for her car or for Uber when we go out LOL.
Gabi was telling me a lot of girls at Scandallo can make up to 3000-4000 Reais a day working and many have bought cars, and houses through this line of work.
Gabi is a gamer, and she dresses up on Tik Tok in different Hentai themed outfits and has a lot of followers. Very cute.
The other girl and I went to Liberdad, the cathedral nearby and the municipal market and then for dinner to Terraco Italia (long ass line here even with a reservation).
She took me to the Bradesco bank in Liberdad and deposited from what I could make out at least 10 k BRL in cash there LOL.
I was staying at the Pullman Ibirapuera, in their pullman suite. Very nice hotel and suite; it definitely does make a difference with the girls. Every-single one I brought in commented on it. The food sucked! Occasionally they even got the wrong order to the room. They downgraded me to a regular room for my last night citing maintenance problems and refunded the room rack rate back on my credit card.
Still no bareback.
Just got to Rio. The girl in SP told me she was busy otherwise she would have come to Rio with me (without me even asking her). She might come in a few days but in the meantime she offered the number of a friend and I have just contacted her. She showed me pictures on instagram and she looks pretty good.
I'm staying in Copacabana with a balcony on a high floor and the view is spectacular.
Next post will be on the Rio forum whenever I get a chance.
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2675273]2000 R may not be so much now but wait until the Real gains to 2. 5, are you willing to pay 2000 R still?
Anyway, point is stop paying gringo price evening if you can afford it now. Trust me, the girl will never forget what you paid and will ask the same each time, she won't accept less.
Before the pandemic the going rate was 1000 R for overnight with a Scandallo girl and now they want that for 1 hour. The exchange was around 4 in 2019 so that is $250 usd for overnight so lets say it drops to 4 again and you pay 2000 R still that is 500 usd. Pandemic is ending so the rate going down to 4 is in the near future. This now makes it really difficult for other mongers probably. For everyone that is paying 20000 R sake, please stop paying gringo prices. People ask me what is a fair rate and I said no more than 1500 R for overnight![/QUOTE]What are you talking about? I didn't agree to 2000, read the report. She asked 2000 and I negotiated her to 1000 for overnight. Which is considerably less than your "fair rate." Dafuq man, get it together.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2675583]I always pay between EUR 2000-2700 in business class from Europe. And that's cheap. I have flown with Lufthansa, Air France, KLM and Iberia. I used to travel in economy and pay EUR 800, but I'm done traveling 16-20 hours packed like a sardine (I'm 6'4") in a middle seat in row 46. I work hard and go for vacation to Brazil. I go there to relax and do more than just mongering. I'm happy to pay for the comfort and arrive well rested to my destination. In March 2020 when the pandemic started and we didn't know much about the virus, just that people were dying like flies, I was specially happy that there wasn't anybody sitting close to me.
P.S. I also always buy a GOL max ticket, when flying domestic in Brazil. Fully changeable, first to board and first to leave the plane and 10 cms more leg space.
Air France A350 1-2-1 seating from my last trip.[/QUOTE]I pay $5500 USD coming from the US for first class. I'm here for business though.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2675388]I don't know. I paid EUR 2700 for my flight to Brazil and a ticket to Spain would cost EUR 350. I don't save any money going to Brazil.[/QUOTE]You said you work in BR? So your company paid for your flight?
BTW can't compare price of first class within Europe to long haul international, I know I flew over 2 million miles.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2675311]All of the gringos who are paying this much is the main cause of world wide inflation. Pretty soon its just going to be foreigners at Scandallo because No brazilians will pay this much for a girl no matter who she is.[/QUOTE]Like others said, girls prefer gringos so they can get more.
There are girls that go upstairs for 400 R there if you speak Portuguese so locals will still go there.
Every girl has their own price they will go for but for the most part 90% will go upstairs for 700 R and be clear what you want her to do fetish wise. Or start with 500 and add on fetish for 100 R each. If she wants 1000 R and won't negotiate tell her you want 1.5 HR upstairs!
90% will go out for 1500 R be clear what you want her to do how many times you want sex and until what time you want her to stay. Or tell her you want a test drive upstairs and give you discount price for taking her out later, she will put extra effort upstairs!
These are pros, they are use to kinky shit so just be straight up!
From where you got that information? I will be also in SP from this Sunday for 1 week. I am not scared of crime there but of problems flying back cause of the strike. How sure it is that it will come and affect airliners?
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2676634]I arrived Saturday morning from USA. [b]Rented a car[/b] and was at the Marriott executive apartments by 2:30. I had a date scheduled with someone I had met three years ago and had kept in touch with me ... [/QUOTE]Just curious, how do you like the driving in Sampa? (ie. The roads, traffic, other drivers...etc).
Is Sampa, relatively easy to navigate?
Probably cheaper and less of a headache to just use uber than rent a car and pay for gas and find parking and worry about it getting carjacked.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2677188]Just curious, how do you like the driving in Sampa? (ie. The roads, traffic, other drivers...etc).
Is Sampa, relatively easy to navigate?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Singe247;2676800]Been spending a lot of time with the reference girl, she keeps very busy. She has told me not to share her number anywhere so that's that. She usually comes to me around 3 pm and then leaves 7 pm for a few hours and then comes back to sleep with me at 10 pm for the night. She has a Chinese boyfriend, 40 years old with a yacht and all. She has a car and a fancy Prada bag given to her as gifts by this guy. She doesn't have a drivers license LOL. She is Argentinian.
She loves to party, like goes through a bottle of vodka 3 times a week at different clubs. We went to a bar / club called MAHAU, it was me, and 2 girls and one of their friends who was gay. The girls refused to let me pay for their drinks or for their time. Good mix of electronic music and Brazilian funk music' I was making out with and grinding with both the girls the whole night. I had my hands all over their bodies all the time and they seemed to enjoy it. If I took my hand off; they'd make a face and take my hand and put it on their ass. Good times.
A note on drugs in Brazil. Both the girls and the gay guy do drugs and so do a lot of girls here in SP. According to Gabi; she showed me a menu of all sorts of drugs. It was like a restaurant menu with pictures and everything!. That's something I have never seen before! They bought MD and were going to a rave at a rooftop party one night. The last night with the girl, she didn't ask for any money so I just opened her purse and put some in. She doesn't let me pay parking for her car or for Uber when we go out LOL.
Gabi was telling me a lot of girls at Scandallo can make up to 3000-4000 Reais a day working and many have bought cars, and houses through this line of work.
Gabi is a gamer, and she dresses up on Tik Tok in different Hentai themed outfits and has a lot of followers. Very cute.
The other girl and I went to Liberdad, the cathedral nearby and the municipal market and then for dinner to Terraco Italia (long ass line here even with a reservation).
She took me to the Bradesco bank in Liberdad and deposited from what I could make out at least 10 k BRL in cash there LOL.
I was staying at the Pullman Ibirapuera, in their pullman suite. Very nice hotel and suite; it definitely does make a difference with the girls. Every-single one I brought in commented on it. The food sucked! Occasionally they even got the wrong order to the room. They downgraded me to a regular room for my last night citing maintenance problems and refunded the room rack rate back on my credit card.
Still no bareback.
Just got to Rio. The girl in SP told me she was busy otherwise she would have come to Rio with me (without me even asking her). She might come in a few days but in the meantime she offered the number of a friend and I have just contacted her. She showed me pictures on instagram and she looks pretty good.
I'm staying in Copacabana with a balcony on a high floor and the view is spectacular.
Next post will be on the Rio forum whenever I get a chance.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you're in pretty tight with the girls, and got to enjoy a lot of fun activities. Why do you think they are so cool with you? Any ideas of what's working for you? I've found that getting bareback is not that difficult, did you take tests prior to your trip to show them you're clean? I figured as tight as you guys are it shouldn't be difficult to swing a threesome all bareback.
I haven't read about drug use in other SP reports before, quite honestly I did not see any signs of girls using in clubs or Clinicas during my trips. Is this something you've seen before? I wonder how common it is.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2677188]Just curious, how do you like the driving in Sampa? (ie. The roads, traffic, other drivers...etc).
Is Sampa, relatively easy to navigate?[/QUOTE]Who has time to be stuck in Sao Paulo traffic?
[URL]https://www.efe.com/efe/english/business/low-cost-helicopters-a-growing-transport-segment-in-sao-paulo/50000265-3414571[/URL]
Drugs- I don't think they would do it in front of you or let you know they do it unless your close to them. It's common but invisible. I have seen it in my time in Moscow with some of the working girls doing some drugs. Nothing hardcore though. Like both the girls SP were wanting to do MD, just to get some energy and rave all night long. Then they spend the next day at home nursing themselves back to life.
Bareback. Both these girls are very well educated, travelled and speak great English. I honestly didn't push it too much. I agree with you, if I did ask them again and was a little more assertive I would have probably gotten it. I do have a test on me.
I am usually an asshole but I have a facade of a nice guy LOL. I'm young and in decent shape, also decent looking I think. At-least 20 women told me how handsome I am while walking through Scandallo. One of them grabbed my face and started making out with me randomly. Although I don't believe any of them. I am average in looks.
I tend to be generous with them when I go out, I don't mind buying them small trinkets or souvenirs and of-course their food and transport. By the end of it, they were paying for me though haha. Nice girls. Maybe I just lucked out, I don't know.
For instance since Gabi is fond of VR, I made her try out a VR experience in one of the malls. Took her to see Batman in one of the higher end cinemas where couples can snuggle up with each other. I bought yogurt and umbrellas for the other girl. I remembered personal things they said about their families or brothers or sisters. (I have a good memory).
I like to take them out to see places in the city, movies and nice dinners, bars and maybe even to nightclubs like I did with these girls.
Its not just about the sex for me, while sex is great' I've found I like a connection with the girls I am with which then almost always translates to better sex in the bedroom.
I am a sucker for pretty faces. So big Brazilian booty without a good face doesn't really do anything for me.
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2677248]Sounds like you're in pretty tight with the girls, and got to enjoy a lot of fun activities. Why do you think they are so cool with you? Any ideas of what's working for you? I've found that getting bareback is not that difficult, did you take tests prior to your trip to show them you're clean? I figured as tight as you guys are it shouldn't be difficult to swing a threesome all bareback.
I haven't read about drug use in other SP reports before, quite honestly I did not see any signs of girls using in clubs or Clinicas during my trips. Is this something you've seen before? I wonder how common it is.[/QUOTE]
Hi all,
I've browsed this forum for some time, there's quite a bit of info, but some details are evading me.
For example, when people are talking about clinicas and prices, I assume the price is for the service, right?
I once went into a massage place in Thailand and you really had to pay for massage first and then negotiate later in the room with the girl for anything else. I wasn't sure how much she was going to ask, and what she'd be willing to do. Is this something that could be negotiated in advance here or one has to take a gamble? How does the process work? I haven't stumbled upon a description of it yet.
I only speak / understand a few words of Portuguese, that's probably going to be a challenge as well, which is why I trying to get these details in advance.
Also, what are typically best times / days to go to clinicas? It likely varies, but it's probably not a night thing like boates?
[QUOTE=SomeGuy543;2677328]...For example, when people are talking about clinicas and prices, I assume the price is for the service, right?
I once went into a massage place in Thailand and you really had to pay for massage first and then negotiate later in the room with the girl for anything else. I wasn't sure how much she was going to ask, and what she'd be willing to do. Is this something that could be negotiated in advance here or one has to take a gamble? How does the process work? I haven't stumbled upon a description of it yet....[/QUOTE]I think you went to the wrong place in Thailand. It is quite similar if you go to the right place. In Thailand, you pick a girl from a presentation of all girls in a line up and pay after the selection before the service. Usually there will be massage. In SP, girl comes to greet you one at a time. You can ask some simple question here or later. You pay after the session. The price is all inclusive. You may not get massage at all because that is not a requirement for girls to work there.
Afternoon is the better time to visit clinicas. It opens early but the selection will be slim.
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2676869]You said you work in BR? So your company paid for your flight?
BTW can't compare price of first class within Europe to long haul international, I know I flew over 2 million miles.[/QUOTE]I have never said I work in Brazil. I replied to your post where you said people go to Brazil to save money. If I wanted save money, I would fly to Germany or Spain and pay EUR200 or EUR350 respectively, instead of going to Brazil and paying EUR2700. That's all, YMMV. Unfortunately I have to pay all my own tickets.
[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2677263] Who has time to be stuck in Sao Paulo traffic?
[URL]https://www.efe.com/efe/english/business/low-cost-helicopters-a-growing-transport-segment-in-sao-paulo/50000265-3414571[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah! If only we could all roll like that. Go Player!
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2676634] I arrived Saturday morning from USA. Rented a car and was at the Marriott executive apartments by 2:30 ... [/QUOTE] Clearly some BMs do have the time and I guess most enjoy, said car rental.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2677239]Probably cheaper and less of a headache to just use uber than rent a car and pay for gas and find parking and worry about it getting carjacked. [/QUOTE]Sure there are some negatives about driving in Sampa, as you've mentioned and all good points to consider. BTW, the same holds true for Rio.
But clearly some BMs, do rent cars and drive in Sampa (or Rio?) and may see things a little differently and have some insights or shared benefits, as to why they prefer to rent / drive in Sampa.
[QUOTE=Singe247;2677299]Drugs- I don't think they would do it in front of you or let you know they do it unless your close to them. It's common but invisible. I have seen it in my time in Moscow with some of the working girls doing some drugs. Nothing hardcore though. Like both the girls SP were wanting to do MD, just to get some energy and rave all night long. Then they spend the next day at home nursing themselves back to life.
[/QUOTE]Never heard or seen a drug menu but I'm kinda of a square since I don't do any drugs and drink just as much.
Many girls I've been with told me that sometimes they'll go to parties with some guys and drugs are offered and to fit in they'll do it too.
Weed is obviously used but cocaine and Adderall are very common. I remember one girl showing her friends private IG story and everyday she would show her new lines.
Given their line of work it's not surprising. It helps cope with some really bad experiences.
That being said some girls don't do it at all since they got kids and are actual professionals with real jobs.
Some just carry themselves really good.
I've seen some girls with some needle marks. It's very common and kinda sad.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2677749]Never heard or seen a drug menu but I'm kinda of a square since I don't do any drugs and drink just as much.
Many girls I've been with told me that sometimes they'll go to parties with some guys and drugs are offered and to fit in they'll do it too.
Weed is obviously used but cocaine and Adderall are very common. I remember one girl showing her friends private IG story and everyday she would show her new lines.
Given their line of work it's not surprising. It helps cope with some really bad experiences.
That being said some girls don't do it at all since they got kids and are actual professionals with real jobs.
Some just carry themselves really good.
I've seen some girls with some needle marks. It's very common and kinda sad.[/QUOTE]Drug dealers are always in the boites so it's always around. Girls tell me at least 50% of the girls do drugs. To cope most do xtacy while working, k to relax, coc with clients since its expensive.
Girls in the US use drugs too.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2677749]Never heard or seen a drug menu but I'm kinda of a square since I don't do any drugs and drink just as much.
Many girls I've been with told me that sometimes they'll go to parties with some guys and drugs are offered and to fit in they'll do it too.
Weed is obviously used but cocaine and Adderall are very common. I remember one girl showing her friends private IG story and everyday she would show her new lines.
Given their line of work it's not surprising. It helps cope with some really bad experiences.
That being said some girls don't do it at all since they got kids and are actual professionals with real jobs.
Some just carry themselves really good.
I've seen some girls with some needle marks. It's very common and kinda sad.[/QUOTE]
Hey fellas,
Question about hotels and registering guests, as I have only been the one time and didn't have an issue last time.
I am going to have a friend (a local, but a civilian) stay with me for a few days on my next trip. I am staying at the Renaissance and have asked them to make it a 2-adult stay (no additional charge with my rate). I'm curious about what signals will go with that. Will a receipt show both names, or even that there were two guests? Will they want to have her officially on the register in some way, or just want to have the reservation setup for two people and no other interest or inquiry?
Her idea was to have a second room reserved for her so it doesn't show up and none of my colleagues see her leave my room, which I think is so unlikely I am not concerned.
You guys are all experienced, what am I not thinking of that could get me in trouble with the SO?
Totally agree with Hobbying. More importantly, high rates do not guarantee a good service. One of the recent reports mentions CBJ, which is outrageous at this price point. No matter how hot she is, $300-$400 is a lot of money for 1 day of work in Brazil and she has to earn it. The issue I see here is that Scandallo girls are working girls, and they see and treat you as clients. Some poster said earlier that many of them are doctors, lawyers, etc. I really doubt it, have you ever seen a smoking hot young doctor or lawyer? I haven't. It takes years of studying, internships, etc to become one, and all the stress gained along the way adds up and affects the looks. It is a good selling strategy to say you are a doctor / lawyer etc. Because that helps to jack up the price. Some guys would say, yeah, it is pricey, but you pay to be around beautiful girls, at a nice establishment, bla bla bla, but at the end of the day, we are all here to fuck, and what happens in the bedroom matters the most. To me, this looks like a pricey bet. You see a hot girl, but you have no idea what kind of service you will get, but you have to discuss the price upfront, make your bet and see if it pays off. Like at any other venue. The difference is that in Rio, for example, it could be 50%-70% less expensive. In Bogota and Medellin I can guarantee you can get any smoking hot goddess for less than $200 overnight, anything over $100 would be sufficient. My take is that Scandallo is a good place for folks who are not price sensitive, for all others there are better places out there.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2677975]we are all here to fuck, and what happens in the bedroom matters the most. To me, this (Scandallo) looks like a pricey bet. You see a hot girl, but you have no idea what kind of service you will get, but you have to discuss the price upfront, make your bet and see if it pays off. Like at any other venue. The difference is that in Rio, for example, it could be 50%-70% less expensive. In Bogota and Medellin I can guarantee you can get any smoking hot goddess for less than $200 overnight, anything over $100 would be sufficient. My take is that Scandallo is a good place for folks who are not price sensitive, for all others there are better places out there.[/QUOTE]1. I have yet to find a place in RJ with the same quality & quantity girls as Scandallo. I have been to all the tier 1 termas and I have met some great terma girls whom I have had great sex with, but the hottest terma girls are not in the same league looks wise with the top 20% of Scandallo girls. That's just a fact, Jack. KKK.
2. I don't do LT with girls I just met until I have had them ST at least once and we have established a rapport between us and the sex is great. This approach eliminates 95% of the poor performance risk we both dislike.
In addition, I generally receive better overnight offers from the girls I have previously had great sex with, but occasionally a girl I have had sex with will ask what I consider to be a non friendly overnight price. I simply tell her, no thanks, and I move on. Ha Ha. Her loss. It's not like I am horny for an all-nighter. In fact, I would rather do 2 different Scandallo girls at succeeding times in the evening, than do one girl 3 times overnight. But that's just me.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2677975]One of the recent reports mentions CBJ, which is outrageous at this price point. No matter how hot she is, $300-$400 is a lot of money for 1 day of work in Brazil and she has to earn it.[/QUOTE]It's not just gringos. The locals get bad service too. In October I WhatsApped maybe 8 girls asking about their services and pricing and only one quoted more than what was reported on the local forums. Same thing in Casarao and Bomboa. I don't think I have paid significantly more than what the locals pay. I don't know what the locals pay in Scandallo.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2677994]It's not just gringos. The locals get bad service too. In October I WhatsApped maybe 8 girls asking about their services and pricing and only one quoted more than what was reported on the local forums. Same thing in Casarao and Bomboa. I don't think I have paid significantly more than what the locals pay. I don't know what the locals pay in Scandallo.[/QUOTE]If locals pay the same, they are probably not price sensitive and can afford it. Do they get bad service? I don't know. But it would be stupid to treat a local client badly, because he could potentially become a regular client who lives in SP 365 days a year vs a gringo coming down for a few days, and also, can spread negative reviews among other locals. If I were a working girl at Scandallo, I would think twice.
It is like renting a car for 1 day. You can get a Honda Civic for under $50/ day or you can get an S class for $200/ day. Both cars will get you from point A to point be. If Honda is clean and has no mechanical issues, you probably will be satisfied considering its rental rate. Mercedes for $200/ day is another level, presentable, comfortable, fast, etc. Can you imagine an S class running like Honda once you turn the engine on? Impossible.
Same thing with the girls. Santa Fe street walkers charge $10-$15 per session, but you usually get what you pay for and can't really complain because you fucked a girl for the price of a lunch at Whole Foods. Scandallo girls charge much more, and you expect an impeccable service. But can you imagine a Scandallo hottie performing like a SF girl? Bunch of rules, I don't do this, I don't do that, watching the clock, etc? Easily.
[QUOTE=LionsNTigers;2677966]Hey fellas,
Question about hotels and registering guests, as I have only been the one time and didn't have an issue last time.
I am going to have a friend (a local, but a civilian) stay with me for a few days on my next trip. I am staying at the Renaissance and have asked them to make it a 2-adult stay (no additional charge with my rate). I'm curious about what signals will go with that. Will a receipt show both names, or even that there were two guests? Will they want to have her officially on the register in some way, or just want to have the reservation setup for two people and no other interest or inquiry?
Her idea was to have a second room reserved for her so it doesn't show up and none of my colleagues see her leave my room, which I think is so unlikely I am not concerned.
You guys are all experienced, what am I not thinking of that could get me in trouble with the SO?[/QUOTE]The invoice will be under your name only. Most likely it will show that there were two guest, if you requested two guest. Most hotels will ask you to register your guest, if she is planning to stay beyond a one-nighter or use the facilities of the hotel on her own. Now, you can skip registering her by requesting a second key and giving it to her separately, if you know her well enough to trust her with your personal belongings and potential room charges (eg room service, etc), as she can come and go out of the room on her own. If you were staying in the Grand Hyatt, they will make you register all guests.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2677975]...To me, this looks like a pricey bet. You see a hot girl, but you have no idea what kind of service you will get, but you have to discuss the price upfront...[/QUOTE]It's not as risky as you think. You can find out a lot in the club. I did before I was told here that no one did those things in the club. LOL.
I think the qualification of lawyer or doctor may be easier than US so you can't judge them as the same if that is the case.
If someone visit the club and only session with 3 girls during the visit. It is possible all 3 are well educated. Based on the experience, he may say all girls in the club are well educated. That is nothing unusual. Logically speaking some combinations are rare so that is why it is YMMV.
You can consider Scandallo another form of SA except you accelerate the process and interview all the girls in one night.
Sometimes I think I pay more for my time, not the girl's time.
I've met real Brazilian women lawyers and doctors, some very attractive, through work.
There are not any of them at the termas or prives.
Whoring may be legal in Brazil, but it is still the bottom 5 or 10% of society.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2678059]It's not as risky as you think. You can find out a lot in the club. I did before I was told here that no one did those things in the club. LOL.
I think the qualification of lawyer or doctor may be easier than US so you can't judge them as the same if that is the case.
If someone visit the club and only session with 3 girls during the visit. It is possible all 3 are well educated. Based on the experience, he may say all girls in the club are well educated. That is nothing unusual. Logically speaking some combinations are rare so that is why it is YMMV.
You can consider Scandallo another form of SA except you accelerate the process and interview all the girls in one night.
Sometimes I think I pay more for my time, not the girl's time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2677975]Some poster said earlier that many of them are doctors, lawyers, etc. I really doubt it, have you ever seen a smoking hot young doctor or lawyer? I haven't. It takes years of studying, internships, etc to become one, and all the stress gained along the way adds up and affects the looks. It is a good selling strategy to say you are a doctor / lawyer etc. Because that helps to jack up the price.[/QUOTE]I have found that a lot of the time, the girls' talk about their education and career is, shall we say, "aspirational" LOL! They're constantly working towards it, but few ever really seem to accomplish the full task, for whatever reasons. Sometimes it's money. And sometimes they just decided to get married and have some babies.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2677975]TSome poster said earlier that many of them are doctors, lawyers, etc. I really doubt it, have you ever seen a smoking hot young doctor or lawyer? I haven't. It takes years of studying, internships, etc to become one, and all the stress gained along the way adds up and affects the looks. It is a good selling strategy to say you are a doctor / lawyer etc. Because that helps to jack up the price. .[/QUOTE]They are actually speaking the truth, unlike FKK girls in Germany. How I know? They show me their private instagram. Though, they are still studying to become one and some has only has 1 to 2 years left in their curriculum. There is a girl who also told me, once you are in this world, you will never get out of it, that includes the girls, because the money is too good.
[QUOTE=LionsNTigers;2677966]Hey fellas,
Question about hotels and registering guests, as I have only been the one time and didn't have an issue last time.
I am going to have a friend (a local, but a civilian) stay with me for a few days on my next trip. I am staying at the Renaissance and have asked them to make it a 2-adult stay (no additional charge with my rate). I'm curious about what signals will go with that. Will a receipt show both names, or even that there were two guests? Will they want to have her officially on the register in some way, or just want to have the reservation setup for two people and no other interest or inquiry?
Her idea was to have a second room reserved for her so it doesn't show up and none of my colleagues see her leave my room, which I think is so unlikely I am not concerned.[/QUOTE]Don't cheat. Ahahahahahahahahaha.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2678024]ISanta Fe street walkers charge $10-$15 per session, but you usually get what you pay for and can't really complain because you fucked a girl for the price of a lunch at Whole Foods. Scandallo girls charge much more, and you expect an impeccable service. But can you imagine a Scandallo hottie performing like a SF girl? Bunch of rules, I don't do this, I don't do that, watching the clock, etc? Easily.[/QUOTE]I don't know where you are getting this stuff about Scandallo girls. Pardon me, but I don't remember reading one of your SP Scandallo reports, so I have to ask if you speaking from 1st hand experience or just blowing smoke?
I have done around 25 Scandallo girls and probably an equal number of Bomboa girls in my two 2021 trips to SP and I never had a bad session. In fact some of my boate sessions rank among the best sex I have in the last 10 to 15 years and that is saying a fucking lot, 555, because in the last 20 years, up until Covid, I spent 2 to 3 months a year fucking around in BKK, Pat, PNH, CGK, RGN, MNL, HKG, and MFM.
My only complaint about my Boate girls, Clinica girls, and my RJ Terma girls is Bareback vaginal sex is rare. In fact, to date only 3 Brazilian girls have given me bareback sex (only 4% approx). Of course YMMV, I hope it does, but my experience with Brazilian hookers is that they are very passionate in bed, but they want the condom for vaginal or anal sex no matter what I say to persuade them to go bareback. This is my only complaint with Brazilian hookers. I know some guys who consider this a deal breaker and they choose to remain in SE Asia. Not me.
Anyway, I never negotiate. I will invite a girl I like the looks of over for a drink and an audition which includes a little conversation, kissing, & touching. At some point in the interview I will decide if I want her or not and if I want her I'll ask if she wants to go upstairs. Once in a while a girl preempts me and asks if I want to go up stairs with her. In either case it is at this point that we briefly discuss money. Specifically, I have had Scandallo girls ask 1000,900, 800,700, 600,500, or say "up to you" for a ST romp. But unless her offer is 500 from the get go, I will just discretely hold up the palm of my hand and say 500 with a smile and BINGO, they all accept my 500 offer and that is the end of that. Only one time did a Scandallo girl counter my 500 offer with 600. She was hot and I didn't feel like negotiating further or passing on her, so I accepted her 600 counter offer. What do locals pay? I am not sure, but it would not surprise me if many of them pay 400 for ST.
But like I said, I never discuss what sex I want or how I want it. I feel negotiation of terms takes away from the spontaneity of the session and the vibe I am trying to establish with my girls. I think I am pretty successful with my approach: In Brazil alone I have had no bad sessions, a hell of a lot of really good, passionate sessions, and an extraordinary number of memorable ones compared to similar stats in BKK, Pat, & CGK. This is the reason, plus ongoing covid entry restrictions in SE Asia, that I am returning shortly to Brazil for my 3rd visit in 12 months. I have spent a lot of time all over Colombia back in the day. Colombia girls are hot, I love the mountains, and I can speak Spanish more or less, but I overall prefer Brazil and their woman.
So my opinion and experience is that boate's have the top selection of girls and that these girls offer up some of the most passionate sessions I have had in recent memory. IMHO, the high quality of Scandallo boate girls and their sexual prowess is worth the $$ The condoms pain me a lot more than the money, believe me, but I think I will have to go back to Jakarta to enjoy barebacking again or find a Brazilian GF. KKK.
I did 8 girls at Scandallo during my stay. Only one turned out to be some sort of scammer (insisted on covered BJ etc.). I lost 600 R. All the same, one in eight is a scamming rate I can live with given the quality of girls there.
Now I know why some of these girls think I'm handsome.
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2677853]Drug dealers are always in the boites so it's always around. Girls tell me at least 50% of the girls do drugs. To cope most do xtacy while working, k to relax, coc with clients since its expensive.[/QUOTE]
I arrived at 0800 Wed sevely jet lagged. Cash exchange place in airport lobby ripped me off and took a 200 are fee so I was limited cash wise. It took me 3 hours to get to my hotel in Ibirapuera (I got lost without WIFI trying to look for a tim store) hotel didn't want to take my credit card and only debit worked. I have quickly learned that not only Brasilians rarely speak English but no English at all unless they're a traveled professional. If someone is fluent in Spanish they might survive ok. I then nearly wasted a few more horas at the El Dorado mall where the tim store was unable to get a Brasil sim card to work in my phone (region locked), so I had to buy an ancient Brasil phone for 100 are. This screwed up a lot of plans because for awhile I couldn't download important apps until I just made a new google account to the Brasil phone.
Number. All my "study material" is still on the other phone. So its 1500, I've been awake 24 h+ and I have a phone but I can't get uber to download. I humped it 4 kilos to my hotel because fuck taxis. And this is the nice part of SP I've been told by more than 1, Brazilian drivers show remarkable discipline not hitting people. I finally collapsed in the hotel room when I got there and woke up around 9. After cleaning up and getting the phone issue somewhat resolved I went to Bomboa! I definitely was only American but a few other customers could speak English and were extremely chill and helpful. Kinda small place but I was told by the English speaker that Bomboa is superior to Scandallo because of relaxed atmosphere. Mostly fake blondes but a morena with green eyes caught my attention. Room fee+consumcion was 460, I had 1 drink and chicken dinner. Garota was 500 and she was willing to try anal but I was too big. Very nice girl she spoke some Engl I had a nice convo with her after finished and told her the truth about American (high living costs, politicians etc). Europe is better than USA except covid tyranny which guns negate to an extent in USA. She was willing to pernoite for 1000 are because she understood I was tired and by 0100 all the rooms were busy. Also I've been warned about the water unsafe to drink.
I can confirm that one of the girls at Scandallo will be a doc.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2677975]Totally agree with Hobbying. More importantly, high rates do not guarantee a good service. One of the recent reports mentions CBJ, which is outrageous at this price point. No matter how hot she is, $300-$400 is a lot of money for 1 day of work in Brazil and she has to earn it. The issue I see here is that Scandallo girls are working girls, and they see and treat you as clients. Some poster said earlier that many of them are doctors, lawyers, etc. I really doubt it, have you ever seen a smoking hot young doctor or lawyer? I haven't. It takes years of studying, internships, etc to become one, and all the stress gained along the way adds up and affects the looks. It is a good selling strategy to say you are a doctor / lawyer etc. Because that helps to jack up the price. Some guys would say, yeah, it is pricey, but you pay to be around beautiful girls, at a nice establishment, bla bla bla, but at the end of the day, we are all here to fuck, and what happens in the bedroom matters the most. To me, this looks like a pricey bet. You see a hot girl, but you have no idea what kind of service you will get, but you have to discuss the price upfront, make your bet and see if it pays off. Like at any other venue. The difference is that in Rio, for example, it could be 50%-70% less expensive. In Bogota and Medellin I can guarantee you can get any smoking hot goddess for less than $200 overnight, anything over $100 would be sufficient. My take is that Scandallo is a good place for folks who are not price sensitive, for all others there are better places out there.[/QUOTE]
Anyone around SP Thursday or Friday want to meet up? Been going solo the past couple days and figure it would be nice to meet up with some more seasoned vets.
There are med students and lawyers in Scandallo, I know I did a few. There is not a rigorous entry requirements for law, med, dental schools in BR so basically if they an pay the tuition at a private school you're in. Med school is about 10,000 R a month so yea either they have rich fam or work and will make about 10,000 R a month when done. Dental and law school is about 2000 R a month because coming out of school they make 3-4000 R a month so you will find them working still at boates or sites. Why some are educated and still work is because of the low salary and the high cost of living in SP and when they are use to making 10-20,000 R a month it's hard to give up that lifestyle. In Scandallo there are all sorts of clients, ones that just go there to party and dance with girls and others that want to fuck so they know gringos have money and want to fuck that's why you get more attention. There are big rollers too, I know girls that got 50,000 R a month from her sugar and another 30,000 R but this setup usually doesn't last too long because the guy gets tired of paying and wants to fuck other girls. These girls are easily spotted as well taken care of girls and during the pandemic this happened a lot when the boates were closed. The hot ones that are smart builds up a clientele and stops going to the boates until the well starts running dry. Getting bad service is uncommon in BR but shit happens if the girl knows she doesn't need to see you again.
Bareback is possible if they are willing to get tested together. The one's that don't care, imagine how many they fucked bareback? Like I said before, it's difficult to build chemistry if you don't speak Porto. My ability to speak Porto, be super nice and take them on vacations is the secret to my success at getting a GFE. Sometimes I pay them sometimes I don't. I'm sure some of you can relate to this recipe for success.
Now the exchange rate is 4.7, like I said stop paying gringo prices because when history repeats itself and becomes 1.5 again, how many are still willing to pay 1000 R / HR or 2000 R per night?
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2678061]I've met real Brazilian women lawyers and doctors, some very attractive, through work.
There are not any of them at the termas or prives.
Whoring may be legal in Brazil, but it is still the bottom 5 or 10% of society.[/QUOTE]Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?
[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2678282]Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?[/QUOTE]If you lay down with a tute, then you too are a tute? Hahahaha!
[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2678282]Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?[/QUOTE]What do you think? True or not, I say it says nothing.
I went to Scandallo for the first time earlier this week. It's a nice club. I was impressed by the atmosphere. It had a lot of fun walking around, talking to so many beautiful women. The food wasn't bad either. I was not able to get the prices many on this forum have mentioned. The girls all wanted 1000 to 1500 for a short time upstairs. I offered 500,600, 700, even up to 800 with the girls. They all refused. Two beautiful girls offered a threesome and wanted 3000 total. Holy shit. They would not accept less. I'm in my 30's, moderately attractive, fit, but definitely a gringo. I felt like the girls were trying to take advantage of me for that. I thought eventually I'd find one to accept something under 1000, but no luck. I think I might try going again next week, but I'm a bit discouraged by the prices.
I've had some great experiences at the clinicas though. I had a session yesterday. The girl was very good, and I came faster than I had expected. I assumed our session was done and took a shower. After the shower, the girl asked me for more. I thought it was just a ploy to get me to pay for another hour or something, but it wasn't expensive, so I figured why not. It turned out not to be a ploy. I was ready to leave, but she wanted to fuck again. It was only 300 for both. The sex was amazing too. I was very surprised how into she was. We were both dripping with sweat when we finished. I loved watching her body convulse when she came too. Awesome experience.
[QUOTE=HughJass;2678393]I went to Scandallo for the first time earlier this week. It's a nice club. I was impressed by the atmosphere. It had a lot of fun walking around, talking to so many beautiful women. The food wasn't bad either. I was not able to get the prices many on this forum have mentioned. The girls all wanted 1000 to 1500 for a short time upstairs. I offered 500,600, 700, even up to 800 with the girls. They all refused. Two beautiful girls offered a threesome and wanted 3000 total. Holy shit. They would not accept less. I'm in my 30's, moderately attractive, fit, but definitely a gringo. I felt like the girls were trying to take advantage of me for that. I thought eventually I'd find one to accept something under 1000, but no luck. I think I might try going again next week, but I'm a bit discouraged by the prices.[/QUOTE]They're working you based on the exchange rate because you're a gringo. You know what the rate is, and so do they. Do not give one of those tutes more than R1,000!
[QUOTE=HughMyron89;2678143]Anyone around SP Thursday or Friday want to meet up? Been going solo the past couple days and figure it would be nice to meet up with some more seasoned vets.[/QUOTE]I'm here till Monday so I'm down for it. I've spent most of my time putting out fires like Uber not wanting to work or finding working ATMs etc. I think paying 60+'per night is paying for itself in the form of hotel employees that speak English.
[QUOTE=HughJass;2678393]I've had some great experiences at the clinicas though. I had a session yesterday. The girl was very good, and I came faster than I had expected. I assumed our session was done and took a shower. After the shower, the girl asked me for more. I thought it was just a ploy to get me to pay for another hour or something, but it wasn't expensive, so I figured why not. It turned out not to be a ploy. I was ready to leave, but she wanted to fuck again. It was only 300 for both. The sex was amazing.[/QUOTE]That's what I like about the clinicas. It's fixed price. No negotiation. Almost all of the clinicas, except for a few, you pay the clinicas and they will give the girl her portion at the end of day. Price is for time spent. First phone ring is at 50-55 minutes, and the second phone ring is 5-10 minutes after. I have had plenty of sessions go over the second ring and I never got charge more. In most clinicas, you pay the receptionist after and they don't know if you just got a massage or came 5 times. Probably 90% of girls will allow one shot for 30 minutes and two shots for 1 hour.
I stayed last night at the Renaissance and had a previous friend come to me. She arrived at 5:00 pm and I met her outside. We walked to the elevators and up to my room. I took her to the concierge lounge for food and drinks no problem. What a night. Brazilian girls like sex!. Then I took her to the lounge for breakfast. Had her with me when I checked out and called for my rental car. Not a problem.
I have had the same experience at Marriott Executive Apartments. Many nights I have had someone stay over night with no issues.
The only issue I ever had was at the Renaissance I had two girls stay overnight and took them to the lounge for breakfast. The hotel charged me $60 US because I took more than one guest in there so be careful of that.
[QUOTE=LionsNTigers;2677966]Hey fellas,
Question about hotels and registering guests, as I have only been the one time and didn't have an issue last time.
I am going to have a friend (a local, but a civilian) stay with me for a few days on my next trip. I am staying at the Renaissance and have asked them to make it a 2-adult stay (no additional charge with my rate). I'm curious about what signals will go with that. Will a receipt show both names, or even that there were two guests? Will they want to have her officially on the register in some way, or just want to have the reservation setup for two people and no other interest or inquiry?
Her idea was to have a second room reserved for her so it doesn't show up and none of my colleagues see her leave my room, which I think is so unlikely I am not concerned.
You guys are all experienced, what am I not thinking of that could get me in trouble with the SO?[/QUOTE]
I met two of the girls in the hotel lobby and were dressed like regular guests. When I walked by they caught my eye and stood up and introduced themselves to me. They were sitting right by the front door. One spoke English but the other was prettier. The one who spoke English asked me if I wanted one of them to go to my room with me. Since I had a companion for the night that was much prettier, younger and built like a model I politely told them I was occupied for the night.
I just ate at a new French restaurant just a few minutes walk from the Hilton Double Tree in Itaim Bibi, Sao Paulo. It is Manuel emporio Cafe Bistro. It is on the same street as the DoubleTree. Rua Manuel guedes, 426 Itaim. I met the owners son Rafiel and we had a nice visit. I was the only one in the restaurant for dinner. The chef fixed me some wonderful steaks (two) with a sauce to die for, salad, fries and a mixed strawberry / orange juice drink. Total 115 reais. Hope someone gets to try it.
[QUOTE=HughJass;2678393]...It was only 300 for both. The sex was amazing too...[/QUOTE]Do you mean for 300 for two hours? Which clinica?
What time were you at Scandallo? I am curious what these expensive Scandallo girls look like. I have never been quoted price that high. I am thinking it is because I dressed poor, haha. If you can't negotiate price, try negotiate time instead.
[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2678282]Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?[/QUOTE]Bottom 5-10%? Says who?
First, I don't think garotas de programa are that bad. I think they are lovely people, in the business of pleasing men and making some money for themselves. I love them with all my heart and wish them great success. I think that girls from Scandallo can compete in practically any beauty contest. So, they are not at the bottom of anything, in my view.
We are top 10%.
Hoaring is a luxury.
I too love hoars and they are lovely people.
It is legit work, but it's not good work and never will be in the christian world.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2678478]Bottom 5-10%? Says who?
First, I don't think garotas de programa are that bad. I think they are lovely people, in the business of pleasing men and making some money for themselves. I love them with all my heart and wish them great success. I think that girls from Scandallo can compete in practically any beauty contest. So, they are not at the bottom of anything, in my view.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2678255]There are med students and lawyers in Scandallo, I know I did a few. There is not a rigorous entry requirements for law, med, dental schools in BR so basically if they an pay the tuition at a private school you're in. Med school is about 10,000 R a month so yea either they have rich fam or work and will make about 10,000 R a month when done. Dental and law school is about 2000 R a month because coming out of school they make 3-4000 R a month so you will find them working still at boates or sites. Why some are educated and still work is because of the low salary and the high cost of living in SP and when they are use to making 10-20,000 R a month it's hard to give up that lifestyle.[/QUOTE]This makes all the sense in the world, I know plenty of girls in the US that danced at strip clubs to pay for college, often seeing guys outside for cash. Not that rare anywhere, it seems the boates are just the much better comparative for our strip clubs. Not hard to believe this at all.
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2678454]I just ate at a new French restaurant just a few minutes walk from the Hilton Double Tree in Itaim Bibi, Sao Paulo. It is Manuel emporio Cafe Bistro. It is on the same street as the DoubleTree. Rua Manuel guedes, 426 Itaim. I met the owners son Rafiel and we had a nice visit. I was the only one in the restaurant for dinner. The chef fixed me some wonderful steaks (two) with a sauce to die for, salad, fries and a mixed strawberry / orange juice drink. Total 115 reais. Hope someone gets to try it.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I will be in 4 days in Doubletree as well.
How did you get there from GRU?
Still scared of greve starting on 31.3. For trucks.
About to start day 3 as I type this. More errands had to get done, I should've brought more than one credit card because I've had several problems including uber. That didn't stop me from sessioning with a skinny Ruiva in Liberdade and going to 57 Chanes at night where it is a clinica priced boate with good staff. The mamasan running it also speaks some English. There I found a rare delectable fruit I did not expect to see. So far my batting average is 1 every 14 hours.
[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2678282]Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?[/QUOTE]Any monger who thinks that garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society has poor self esteem.
This week I am at the Hilton Double Tree in Ibaim. I have to leave Sunday afternoon but will be back the next Wednesday till Sunday again. I do have two girl friends who are jealous of my time but I would be up to meet for a lunch or something.
[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2678407]I'm here till Monday so I'm down for it. I've spent most of my time putting out fires like Uber not wanting to work or finding working ATMs etc. I think paying 60+'per night is paying for itself in the form of hotel employees that speak English.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turgid;2678644]Any monger who thinks that garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society has poor self esteem.[/QUOTE]I agree, I don't look down on sex workers and don't think anyone should, especially in other parts of the world that haven't been suffering from hysterical puritanism that stigmatizes sex and sex work like we do in the US. In the US many are doing it because it's all they can do, but many others are doing it because they like it and are good at it, and I think that's great. I also think the rise of twitter and onlyfans and other platforms that allow women more autonomy has been incredibly positive, both for women controlling what they do.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2678446]That's what I like about the clinicas. It's fixed price. No negotiation. Almost all of the clinicas, except for a few, you pay the clinicas and they will give the girl her portion at the end of day. Price is for time spent. First phone ring is at 50-55 minutes, and the second phone ring is 5-10 minutes after. I have had plenty of sessions go over the second ring and I never got charge more. In most clinicas, you pay the receptionist after and they don't know if you just got a massage or came 5 times. Probably 90% of girls will allow one shot for 30 minutes and two shots for 1 hour.[/QUOTE]Oh, okay. I guess my experience wasn't out of the ordinary then. I'm used to 1 hour meaning 1 shot. I had my one shot about 30 minutes in and then showered and was getting dressed to leave when she invited me for more. I'm not sure why she just didn't let me leave. We went again until they called. Pretty awesome experience nonetheless though.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2678464]What time were you at Scandallo? I am curious what these expensive Scandallo girls look like. I have never been quoted price that high. I am thinking it is because I dressed poor, haha. If you can't negotiate price, try negotiate time instead.[/QUOTE]I was there from 9 pm to 1 am, and I was dressed moderately well. I was only talking to the girls I found most attractive and that spoke English. Maybe it's the English premium. What shocked me is that they turned down 800. Even if they are trying to take advantage of a gringo, it surprises me they would let me walk when offering 800.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2678405]They're working you based on the exchange rate because you're a gringo. You know what the rate is, and so do they. Do not give one of those tutes more than R1,000![/QUOTE]I ended up paying one 1000. She was beautiful, but the sex wasn't out of this world for me. She wouldn't let me touch or eat her pussy, which I really like. She did BBBJ and was good at sex though. The sex at the clinica was a lot better, but the girl was not as stunning as the Scandallo girls.
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2678453]I met two of the girls in the hotel lobby and were dressed like regular guests. When I walked by they caught my eye and stood up and introduced themselves to me. They were sitting right by the front door. One spoke English but the other was prettier. The one who spoke English asked me if I wanted one of them to go to my room with me. Since I had a companion for the night that was much prettier, younger and built like a model I politely told them I was occupied for the night.[/QUOTE]I like that team approach.
[QUOTE=HughJass;2678393]I went to Scandallo for the first time earlier this week. It's a nice club. I was impressed by the atmosphere. It had a lot of fun walking around, talking to so many beautiful women. The food wasn't bad either. I was not able to get the prices many on this forum have mentioned. The girls all wanted 1000 to 1500 for a short time upstairs. I offered 500,600, 700, even up to 800 with the girls. They all refused. Two beautiful girls offered a threesome and wanted 3000 total. Holy shit. They would not accept less. I'm in my 30's, moderately attractive, fit, but definitely a gringo. I felt like the girls were trying to take advantage of me for that. I thought eventually I'd find one to accept something under 1000, but no luck. I think I might try going again next week, but I'm a bit discouraged by the prices.
I've had some great experiences at the clinicas though. I had a session yesterday. The girl was very good, and I came faster than I had expected. I assumed our session was done and took a shower. After the shower, the girl asked me for more. I thought it was just a ploy to get me to pay for another hour or something, but it wasn't expensive, so I figured why not. It turned out not to be a ploy. I was ready to leave, but she wanted to fuck again. It was only 300 for both. The sex was amazing too. I was very surprised how into she was. We were both dripping with sweat when we finished. I loved watching her body convulse when she came too. Awesome experience.[/QUOTE]Not only your mileage may vary, but your price may vary as well. YPMV LOL. Folks say they pay or used to pay 500 in 2021 (see one of the recent posts). Brazil got hit with post-covid inflation? Or there is an influx of gringos? Go figure.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2678697]Not only your mileage may vary, but your price may vary as well. YPMV LOL. ....[/QUOTE]Would you share some Colombia Seeking profiles or pictures that you have considered but rejected or no longer needs? That will provide some context on what you talk about.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2678644]...poor self esteem.[/QUOTE]The questions I wonder about are will I marry one? If I marry one, will I tell others her profession? Does self esteem has anything to do with either?
[QUOTE=HughJass;2678670]...I was only talking to the girls I found most attractive and that spoke English...[/QUOTE]I think based on your clinica experience, you should give other girls a chance. You can ask the girl what she will or will not do using translator in the club before going to the room.
[QUOTE=HughJass;2678670]I ended up paying one 1000. She was beautiful, but the sex wasn't out of this world for me. She wouldn't let me touch or eat her pussy, which I really like. She did BBBJ and was good at sex though. The sex at the clinica was a lot better, but the girl was not as stunning as the Scandallo girls.[/QUOTE]I always avoid these kinds of disappointments by making it clear with the girl what I want, and getting her agreement, before we go to the room. Some guys don't like to engage in this kind of "negotiation" because they need 100% spontaneity. All I have to say is if you don't ask and you get to the room and she doesn't do "that", then you have nobody to blame but yourself. Don't be ashamed to ask for what you want either. These girls have heard it all, and done a lot of it too LOL!
[QUOTE=HughMyron89;2678143]Anyone around SP Thursday or Friday want to meet up? Been going solo the past couple days and figure it would be nice to meet up with some more seasoned vets.[/QUOTE]What time you headed there, planning on 8 pm.
I would marry one if I am able to find one that I can "trust" and is the "right one". I would tell certain individuals that are close to me who I know who doesn't "prejudge". The majority of society if not all does prejudge about everything including people's profession, race, religion, appearance, and all of that stuff similar to how many of you prejudge if they have an education or not. Sometimes its better to say less. I have gone through endless years of higher education and I can tell you there are many people with professional degrees who I have way less respect than the girls and staff and the security guards at Scandallo.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2678738]The questions I wonder about are will I marry one? If I marry one, will I tell others her profession? Does self esteem has anything to do with either?[/QUOTE]
If an average or above girl from anywhere in the world pays me for sex, I would accept the offer too.
[QUOTE=LionsNTigers;2678627]This makes all the sense in the world, I know plenty of girls in the US that danced at strip clubs to pay for college, often seeing guys outside for cash. Not that rare anywhere, it seems the boates are just the much better comparative for our strip clubs. Not hard to believe this at all.[/QUOTE]
I went to Abbobora and was told by a local cost was 300 (room 100, girl gets 200). Card didn't work so I paid in cash they charged me 130 anyway? I'm not the kind of guy to argue with people when I'm a guest in their country though. About 10 girls presented themselves (one at a time) only about 4 were standouts. I chose a tall Morena named Moniqe with a huge bunda assuming she'd do anal. I chose wrong. Not bad just mediocre session and ID say she was 30-35. I regretted not choosing the young redhead. Later on after walking around too much I went back to 57 House where another seasoned expat informed me I should've never paid more than 280. Because of my limited purchase options (my CC only works maybe 30% of the time here) I'm going to be forced to begin triaging. I'm trying to stay in Brasil at least 30 days.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2678778]I always avoid these kinds of disappointments by making it clear with the girl what I want, and getting her agreement, before we go to the room. Some guys don't like to engage in this kind of "negotiation" because they need 100% spontaneity. All I have to say is if you don't ask and you get to the room and she doesn't do "that", then you have nobody to blame but yourself. These girls have heard it all, and done a lot of it too LOL![/QUOTE]We obviously have two different approaches which is totally fine with me. Both ways work more or less. All I will say about why I prefer not to negotiate and lay it all out ahead of time is that I like the spontaneity as you rightly noted. Another way of describing it is that it feels more like picking up a regular girl instead of a hooker which is part of the GFE fantasy I like to engage in. Even more important, however, is the fact that I know the girls know what I want in broad general terms and I can usually accurately sense how we are doing on that score in the bar before I ask them upstairs or out. For example, I have never taken a Boate girl, a Terma girl, or a Go Go girl upstairs or out of a bar before we have had an enjoyable make out session and more and I get the sense that the vibe between us is real good. I think that positive vibe I get or don't get is a more reliable predictor of future bedroom events than a written contract. LOL. But a small percentage of girls will always get past my screening technique and under perform, disappoint from time to time by not getting into the sex and not giving me their passion. That is human nature. The object, of course, is to minimize those unfortunate lackluster sessions by spotting those kind of girls ahead of time.
If there is a specific request above regular sex like CIM or Anal than yeah, a little pre-negotiation before you go upstairs is called for. A punter has far more negotiating leverage before going to the room than after he is in the room. Something extra will always cost more money in the room. KKK. But a certain percentage of girls will underperform even if you explicitly negotiate certain items with them beforehand and they agree to those terms. Bad girls are dishonest girls. The main advantage of Boates, Termas, and Go Go's is that customers have the opportunity to get to know a girl or girls thanks to the audition process, and again, the object should be to find the girls you have good rapport with and to weed out the ones that you don't. It also helps if you enjoy drinking and flirting with bar girls which I really do. For me it is all part of the evenings entertainment. Guys who want to cut this part out of the program most likely prefer Clinicas, Prives, and Oily massage parlors anyway. In those latter places the girls work for the house, so the reputation of the house is the implied guarantor of a good time, LOL.
Friday isn't dead but isn't on fire either. I'm too drunk to count so there could be anything from 50-150 girls here, lets say 100.
20-40 Redheads and blondes. Maximum of 8 are natural. Probably only 1-3 real reds. 5 tops have clear eyes verde or azul.
Maybe 5 Asians / japinhas.
2 straight up look like men.
And quite a few 40+.
I can't be blown away because after all I've been lurking for years.
You can probably only have 2 drinks before going over the cover. If you were here Friday Night 3/26 I was the tall bearded guy with a tiger shirt.
[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2678818]I went to Abbobora and was told by a local cost was 300 (room 100, girl gets 200). Card didn't work so I paid in cash they charged me 130 anyway? I'm not the kind of guy to argue with people when I'm a guest in their country though. About 10 girls presented themselves (one at a time) only about 4 were standouts. I chose a tall Morena named Moniqe with a huge bunda assuming she'd do anal. I chose wrong. Not bad just mediocre session and ID say she was 30-35. I regretted not choosing the young redhead. Later on after walking around too much I went back to 57 House where another seasoned expat informed me I should've never paid more than 280. Because of my limited purchase options (my CC only works maybe 30% of the time here) I'm going to be forced to begin triaging. I'm trying to stay in Brasil at least 30 days.[/QUOTE]Abbobora price increase.
I never had a clinica charge me more than a local. Some have reviewer discounts if you leave a review on gpguia. There is also a small credit card fee. I just checked the local forum and a recent review said "price has been readjusted now they are 330.00 cash, and 350.00 on the card" hopefully this will attract hotter girls there. I know this clinica is a favorite of some guys on the forum but I seldom session here.
Credit card.
Did you call your credit card company and let them know that you are in Brazil? That usually helps with card rejections.
[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2678818] ...Card didn't work so I paid in cash they charged me 130 anyway?...[/QUOTE]I just checked gpguia and the last reviewer said the price has changed to 330 cash. That is about 20% increase from the last time I was there. I think next time you should clarify right away. At least you will clearly know what you are paying for, extra charge or not.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2678854]We obviously have two different approaches which is totally fine with me. Both ways work more or less. All I will say about why I prefer not to negotiate and lay it all out ahead of time is that I like the spontaneity as you rightly noted...[/QUOTE]I like club because negotiating service is more like a regular conversation. I tried that in the clinica but it felt odd so I stop doing it.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2678945]I like club because negotiating service is more like a regular conversation. I tried that in the clinica but it felt odd so I stop doing it.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think "negotiation" is really too strong a word actually. Like I've said before, it's just a friendly conversation (at least it should be if you're doing it right). Where you casually ask the pretty girls how much to sperm in their teeth and fuck them up their butt holes. LOLOLOL! Imagine asking each pretty girl in a clinica lineup who approaches you such things. Talk about awkward! I've never done that at a clinica and have just taken my chances. Another reason why I prefer boates and termas over clinicas or any other brothel setup where you're supposed to choose from a lineup presented to you without the opportunity to interact with the girl before going to the room to do the nasty. I want an opportunity to see if there's any real chemistry between me and the girl [B]and[/B] to know how much to fuck her in the ass, if she does that hahaha!
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2678803]I would marry one if I am able to find one that I can "trust" and is the "right one". I would tell certain individuals that are close to me who I know who doesn't "prejudge". The majority of society if not all does prejudge about everything including people's profession, race, religion, appearance, and all of that stuff similar to how many of you prejudge if they have an education or not. Sometimes its better to say less. I have gone through endless years of higher education and I can tell you there are many people with professional degrees who I have way less respect than the girls and staff and the security guards at Scandallo.[/QUOTE]Learning emotional intelligence is part of most masters programs now weather it helps or not.
Society is different in BR since prostitution is legal so if you tell some people they will understand despite their educational level. Some girls in Scandallo are open to finding a rich* boyfriend or husband inside and many have gotten married. Weather it last or not is another thing. A lot of BR working girls have boyfriends or husbands and almost all have told their moms since most don't have a father around.
Just like pornstars how they have sex at work is different from at home some have told me.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2678803]I would marry one if I am able to find one that I can "trust" and is the "right one". I would tell certain individuals that are close to me who I know who doesn't "prejudge". The majority of society if not all does prejudge about everything including people's profession, race, religion, appearance, and all of that stuff similar to how many of you prejudge if they have an education or not. Sometimes its better to say less. I have gone through endless years of higher education and I can tell you there are many people with professional degrees who I have way less respect than the girls and staff and the security guards at Scandallo.[/QUOTE]Recently I had a hooker over to my place who I would rate physically as a 6. It was my first time with her. She was in her late twenties and obviously had a child or two (I did not ask her how many). After the deed we got to talking. She was into community gardening. I was amazed at her knowledge of growing vegetables. She was so enthusiastic talking about the topic that we spent almost as much time talking than we did having sex. Definitely someone worthy of respect.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2679061]Recently I had a hooker over to my place who I would rate physically as a 6. It was my first time with her. She was in her late twenties and obviously had a child or two (I did not ask her how many). After the deed we got to talking. She was into community gardening. I was amazed at her knowledge of growing vegetables. She was so enthusiastic talking about the topic that we spent almost as much time talking than we did having sex. Definitely someone worthy of respect.[/QUOTE]You never know what you're going to find out about somebody when you start relating to them and getting to know them as a full person, and not just as a sex object. That said, I still have no desire to marry a high volume prostitute. Come to think of it, I don't have a desire to marry anybody!
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[QUOTE=Fewdie;2678803]I would marry one if I am able to find one that I can "trust" and is the "right one"...[/QUOTE]Thank you for the reply. It is a personal question but it does make one think about how one really feels about an issue.
Ran the Colombia, Argentina, Brazil trifecta. Here is the São Paulo part. Buenos Aires is in the Seeking Arrangements thread as I did only Seeking in BA. Colombia to follow.
So I finally had my first opportunity to get back to Brazil but it turned out nothing like I'the planned. I was in town for two nights and a full day with a late night flight the last day. The first two nights I figured were Scandallo and maybe I might hook a girl there interested in the afternoon of day 3.
Hit Scandallo just before prime time. Maybe 10:30. Prob about 100 girls at the time. Did the usual entry sign in and got a Jack and Coke. And hung out at the bar.
As expected the girl next to me struck up a conversation. We chatted a bit and I would say she was my type. A bit girl next door, and very pretty. But I had just gotten there and figured I should play the field. So I excused myself to roam.
I roamed around a bit and by after 11 it was hopping more. Maybe 150 girls and the band came on. A couple other girls chatted me up, one with excellent English and again doable for me but it was still early and I was enjoying the band and atmosphere.
I should note that while all 150 are pretty and I'the fuck any of them in a pinch, my "got to have it" taste is very narrow. Only saw a very few that I thought "I need to find her later".
After a while I thought I would wander out to the patio but it appeared closed. This turns out to be very wrong and only due to renovations. There are two major things changed in the layout since my 2019 visit:
First the patio is massively expanded and sports it's own bar. But it's not accessed near the elevators as before. That entrance was closed. Rather you go past the restrooms and continue straight and voila onto a massive new and beautiful outdoor setting. I discovered this quite late.
Second and maybe less important to some is the hallway with couches which used to separate the club from the dining area is gone. The dining area has taken it over. I liked this area for chatting away from the crush. And fond Andressa memories there. Oh well.
Anyhow at some point maybe around 12 I found the patio and was quickly engaged by a lady (not really a girl — she might have been 30+) who was quite chatty and flirty and generally nice to be with. Super slim great hair great face but large fake tits. Somehow they managed to look good on her anyhow.
Long story short. Great in public. A pro in the room. It's not that she was bad. It's just that it wasn't real. There was some kissing and a BBBJ but you could never mistake this for GFE. Mechanical. Too fast. Fake moaning. Again it wasn't horrible. All the trimmings were there without a lot of showstoppers. But for someone used to real GFE it just wasn't great. We got it done. I allowed myself to get hustled by a pro. Bad dog! (700 R+230 R room).
So I came out about 1 (maybe 30 minutes in room which is short but I was all about getting done and out). And wandered only a bit. The band was done or on break and vibe a shade less fun and me slightly bummed about my choice. But my balls were empty so I wasn't desperate for round 2. I'the also already seen 9 (other girls in Colombia and BA in the 6 days prior to this. So I thought I'the take a look elsewhere. (Scandallo club bill was 400 R incuding entry, two drinks for me, and a massive lady drink for her).
I decided to check out Lotus Club and man was that interesting. It was sad actually. The facilities at this club are AMAZING. Glitz and glam and lights and 40 foot ceilings, honestly better than Scandallo and. Wait for it. ONE girl. Yep. One. I decide to throw them a bone and sit down for a drink. There is one other guy drifting around, at least 10 waitstaff and Me.
I just sit and marvel and wonder wtf is wrong with this place and three more girls eventually show. Which of course is also pathetic having just come from Scandallo but All are at least vaguely pretty. The second one rather catches my eye with an amazing face if slightly hippy frame that I will later discover is all that. Firm not fat and a skinny waist in doggie to die for! - classic Brasileira.
She and I exchange a smile and a look or two but I'm doing the "don't send it to defcon three" and keep averting before locking eyes for too long. And the other girls all look doable after a couple drinks if not quite my type.
I decide I am going to go to each of the four girls in succession and just introduce myself and get her name in Portuguese and then say I want to talk to each girl. I do this with girl 1 (they are lined up about 15 feet apart) and I could def get with her. Nothing wrong. A bit GND. But excuse myself to move down the line.
Then onto girl 2 fully intending to hit up girls 3 and 4. But number 2 and I lock eyes and Alert Alert DEFCON 3! Full on DEFCON 3! This is not a drill!
It was honestly kinda amazing. Like instant mutual chemistry. And powerful. Her teeth are sorta odd with bunny teeth and a dual yaeba (look it up) but somehow amazing. When she smiles, she smiles with both her mouth and her eyes I am totally melted into goo.
So we chat a bit, some mutual touching and it's time for "quanto custa". She says 1000 which of course is way too high for this venue and time. I feel a little bad saying 500 but she's the one that started high not me. I think she's about to cave and a little sad so I type 600 and she readily agrees.
And off we go to my hotel (Lotus does not have onsite rooms which is a significant downside). In the room the passion is undeniable. I def should have written it down because I can't recall all the details of the first night. I remember wet and wild DATY and you could feel how real it was. When she was finally done she pulls me up face to face and starts eating me alive. You could just tell I'the released the hounds!
Her BJ is quite excellent with plenty of under the hood action. And we finish with BLS HJ which has become unfortunately the norm I've been fucking so much. But I will soon redeem myself.
The visit from here turns into a much more Seeking Arrangement relationship with full BFGF the next couple days (although I have to work and she has kids to manage). She leaves around 3 AM this first night.
Next night we meet for the most amazing Italian. It's one of those super fancy places with more waiters than diners and guys constantly pouring wine. Chafing dishes to make your pasta table side. The real deal and the food is amazing. She is soooo enjoying being treated like a princess and it warms my heart doing so.
We walk home from dinner about. 75 miles and all uphill! But we make it and grab some drinks and continue the party in the room. It is an amazing time but in the end we have to call it because I'm too drunk to get off a shot. But not for lack of trying. What a trooper.
Next day we have lunch together. Again very good. And that afternoon some really epic sex where I get to finish what I started. Urgent passionate kissing in mish and her pussy sloppy AF. I am pounding hard and fast (unusual for me) and wow. Cum hard in mish. Love that!
Afterwards we do some shopping and she's pretty low maintenance. We get some nice Easter chocolates for her girls but don't find much else of interest. Eat at the food court. LOL. But it's just BFGF and it totally works!
I know it's going to seem crazy to so many of you that with Scandallo in easy reach I would spend my three days with a mother of two. But yeah I did. I've been doing Seeking Arrangement so much that an hour of fucking is pretty far down on the list of things I'm looking for. Yea I want that hour or more. But I also want the full GFE. Someone whose eyes shine when they look at me like they adore me. Someone to walk hand and hand with and find somewhere special together.
And fuck there is absolutely such a thing as chemistry. I can objectively say that my home girl Shayla, Kerry (who I spent GFE time with in Colombia) and Maria (above) are not the prettiest girls I've been with (tho all are pretty and damn good in bed). But there is something extra. That smile that rocks your world. The way she looks at you. It's just a palpable thing. So yeah. Maria was totally worth skipping Scandallo. YMMV. 😋.
And strangely, after 11 new women this past week (ish) it makes me appreciate my home girl more. Yes lots of great sex abroad. A few spectacular looking women. And two real gems that I spent more than a night with. But my home girl Shayla still rocks my world. Life is good.
Anyone has preference clinicas in Jardins. All the clinicas I go to are in Moema, however, this time I am staying in Jardins and wanted to know of any recommended ones I can potentially walk too.
Thanks guys!
Guys,
Last night I did a Triple banger. Took 3 girls from Scandallo, paid cover to get them out, and we all went over to Lush motel. Had one giving me BBBJ, another eating my a-hole, and the 3rd one passionately kissing me GFE, passionately. Was only able to cum off twice. Love the rooms, had mirrors everywhere. Two of them gave me a strip pole routine, and the 3rd GFE was rubbing me down and stroking me. Then we all jumped into the pool and two of them started kissing each other, wonderful time. Much more relax environment then being in the Scandallo rooms. Just a heads up.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2679122]
I decided to check out Lotus Club and man was that interesting. It was sad actually. The facilities at this club are AMAZING. Glitz and glam and lights and 40 foot ceilings, honestly better than Scandallo and. Wait for it. ONE girl. Yep. One. I decide to throw them a bone and sit down for a drink. There is one other guy drifting around, at least 10 waitstaff and Me. I just sit and marvel and wonder wtf is wrong with this place and three more girls eventually show. Which of course is also pathetic having just come from Scandallo but All are at least vaguely pretty.........
Yea I want that hour or more. But I also want the full GFE. Someone whose eyes shine when they look at me like they adore me. Someone to walk hand and hand with and find somewhere special together. And fuck there is absolutely such a thing as chemistry.[/QUOTE][URL]https://lotusclub.com.br/home/[/URL]
I can't understand why such a nice club is unable to recruit more girls? I know Scandallo has reputation for large selection, but they can't have the monopoly on it. It would have been nice if you asked the management why so few girls? (wonder if club charging girls too much)
On the GFE front nice to see you got someone you enjoyed being with and spent quality time with.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2678803]I have gone through endless years of higher education and I can tell you there are many people with professional degrees who I have way less respect than the girls and staff and the security guards at Scandallo.[/QUOTE]I agree 1000%.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2678803]I would marry one if I am able to find one that I can "trust" and is the "right one". I would tell certain individuals that are close to me who I know who doesn't "prejudge". The majority of society if not all does prejudge about everything including people's profession, race, religion, appearance, and all of that stuff similar to how many of you prejudge if they have an education or not. Sometimes its better to say less.[/QUOTE]I have tried explaining this on other forums, and I will give it my best shot here. When I was in Brazil, I was amazed at how many WGs were normal. What I mean is that once you got to know them and they liked you, they did not ask for more money. Not all of them, but the classier ones with whom I had chemistry that was the case.
With American woman and sugar babies and hookers and strippers, forget anything serious. They look at men like ATMs, and it is never enough, but I learned if I paid them and was straight with them about my seeing other women, the American would perform really well, and I was pretty happy doing that. I then moved to the Latin cultures with the same MO, and the women were better and cheaper.
I had two women in my life telling me that I would find a woman who I thought was so special I would just want to see them. I thought they were fucking crazy, but it planted a seed. You see I think most mongers have stress in their lives that they do not like to talk about. They would like to have one woman, but they have not found a woman who was special enough for them to give up their monogamy. Society says, "Oh, you are fucking that woman. You have to be monogamous", and they feel the shame of seeing multiple women.
Some guys here are such feminist types they objected to the phrase "earning monogamy" but I think it is a worthwhile exercise. What would it take for you to be loyal to one woman? If you can answer that question, your straying is not the problem, the women just are not good enough.
With me, she had to be so hot I would not look at someone else, intelligent, honest, trustworthy, the sex had to be so good that I would not want to stray, not a whiner who would bring me down, not emasculate me and in general be a sweet supportive person. In short, I wanted a 10 in looks, a 10 in bed, who is an angel. Good like finding that right? The irony is that I did, and I almost passed her up because I thought she was too good to be true.
That is the funny part. You actually visualize what you want, and the universe has a weird way of giving it to you.
The transition for mongers is tough. You have to give up the idea of being ripped off and change gears such that you want to support a woman. The air fares and hotels make it so that it is not cheap but there is a lot less wasted money.
My gal is in Colombia, and I am glad because it is closer but I was talking to some amazing Brazilian women. I was all set to go down there and this woman screwed it up. LOL.
With me, I have a built in reason to not marry her for a few years, but I have to say that what I hope is that the habits she forms in our relationship stays the same such that if we do get married, nothing changes. Because if they do, I am out, and I will go back to being how I was before.
Having experienced Colombia, Argentina, and Brazil, here is the summary of my dates and thoughts on the venues. Of course the summary is: if you have the coin you can get awesome girls in any of the three countries -- so long as you pick the right format for that country.
Medellin -- Primarily Facebook and Referrals.
Bella and Alejandra Duo -- Picked up at a local small club, these girls were four hours of fun and partying. The sex was just altogether OK, but having a more senior girl help coach up her younger protege on the finer points of BJ was fun. But mostly just tons of rum shots and tussi (them not me) and grinding and dancing and just having fun.
Julia -- Referral from a friend this girl is fresh and cute and built and bubbly and has the finest pussy to finger on planet earth. Her BJ is lame, but she's a nice girl and I would have repeated if I had the time.
Karen. Damn this girl has an amazing face (and good bod). She wears lots of makeup but it's working because I could look at her all day. A bit bizness-like in the bedroom, but damn she's fine. Came in Mish, which doesn't happen so often, but looking at that face. Whoa.
Kerry. Referral from a friend. Had dinner together and we just clicked chemically from the get go and I couldn't get enough. Her smile and laugh will melt you. We had amazing foreplay in the jacuzzi and the sex was just so passionate. Went touristing the next day and she helped guide me by the hand through the worst part of El Centro. Several quite nasty blocks of piss and fish smell and yikes. Plaza Botero itself is nice and feels like any city. Had an amazing pasta lunch, more amazing sex (damn the way she looks in my eyes slays me) and a mega afternoon spoon nap. I would def repeat with this girl.
Vennie Spinner. I don't even remember her name. Grabbed outside of Park Lleras. Seems so innocent but quite the little shark. Ended up haggling over condom for BJ, and other things. Basically some pretty darn good sex and a lot of arguing. Super amazing be cups on the tiniest frame you can imagine. Only bad experience in Medellin (and not completely awful on balance. She was lots of fun when we weren't arguing LOL).
Andrea. Believe another poster mentioned her. I am not usually one for sharing girls names, but if you care to dig she is a real gem. Tattooed head to toe, so if you don't like that, definite non-starter. I think they are super bad ass. And she's got a very solid woman's build -- think her ass is fake actually. So if you want a flaca look elsewhere. But if you want one of the top BJs on planet earth she's your gal. And she's sweet and passionate also. I took the upcharge and blasted twice inside 40 minutes -- and that after all the girls above in just two days. So I think that speaks to her BJ prowess.
Buenos Aries -- Seeking Arrangements Only.
Lucia. Wow this girl looks amazing. A 10 face no lie. A 9 body. Perfect English, fun to be with at dinner and walking. Just a great date. Sex pretty darn mediocre. I'd still see her again just to have that doll out with me.
Melia. We were in close chat for several weeks, but I semi-ghosted her 2 weeks out as I settled on other girls. Failed second date with Lucia (she contacted me later but it was too late) and Meli came through with 4 hours notice! Great fun date despite the language barrier. Amazing sex including swap to BBFS midway. Totally would repeat.
Sao Paulo -- Clubs.
Natalie. Scandallo. Scandallo remains amazing, but Natalie too pro for my taste. Rushed and fake. Made a mistake taking her. Guess it goes to show, the experience only works if you follow the rules. I broke several and paid the price. Still managed to squirt one out, but def not the highlight of my trip.
Maria. Damn, another keeper like Kerry. Found her at Lotus -- only four girls there, but I guess you only need one, because chemistry was off the charts from the first minute. We basically wifed up for the next two days. Amazing dinner, walks, drinks, sex. Really the whole GFE package from top to bottom.
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So what's my take on the three countries? This is all just my opinion based on quite a limited sample. YMMV.
I still think Brazil is number one if you like the face to face club scene and lots of options. Scandallo remains more pretty girls per square meter than anywhere on the planet. In comparison La Isla was distinctly lame with plastic girls and inflated prices.
Argentina is only worth a visit if you know how to navigate the Seeking Arrangements scene and enjoy the whole date experience. Top shelf girls if this is your thing and Buenos Aires is a lovely city. Very European. The Italian at Marcelo and walk after in Puerto Madero is worth the trip.
I was surprised how short and lame the BJs were in Colombia (with exception of Andrea). I found the Romanian pro girls in London and the amateur Seeking girls in the US to be decidedly better. Not sure why but it was noticeable and stood out to me.
You can find amazing real life GFE wherever you go. But it takes a bit of luck and numbers. Out of 11 girls across the three countries I found 2 girls I was happy to wife up with and another 2 who gave the in bedroom GFE we all seek. Another 5 that I was happy to have spent time with and only 2 I wished I hadn't.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2679326]Argentina is only worth a visit if you know how to navigate the Seeking Arrangements scene and enjoy the whole date experience. Top shelf girls if this is your thing and Buenos Aires is a lovely city. Very European. The Italian at Marcelo and walk after in Puerto Madero is worth the trip.[/QUOTE]Too bad about Argentina. It used to be very good for the face-to-face club scene. But then I heard they closed all of the puta palaces down. Well, I'm certain you can still get a good piece of steak there face-to-face, if not a piece of ass haha!
Sorry if it's a repetitive question, but upon searching the forums the only prive scene I've found is in Santana, been there, the talent is okay but damn it's far all the way north in bumfuck nowhere.
Any neighborhoods besides Santana where there are cheap prives grouped together like the ones in Rio? (50-100 reais).
I saw the clinica scene in moema but those all seem to be around 200-300 reais per session. Coming from Colombia, I'm a cheap charlie for sp.
Thanks for your time.
Jw.
Can anyone recommend a place that has facilities similar if not equal or superior to Asturias? Inquiring minds want to know.
Cheers.
To answer your question re Jardins, my first exposure and many of them were at Tangara 200. It still has a special place in my heart because several of my best experiences were taking girls from there to my hotel for the night. I went there last Saturday and was not disappointed.
I met My current best lover at Chanes. I don't know if it is still open. There are many in Jardins, Vanis Way etc. If you want you can PM me.
[QUOTE=RealShaun;2679147]Anyone has preference clinicas in Jardins. All the clinicas I go to are in Moema, however, this time I am staying in Jardins and wanted to know of any recommended ones I can potentially walk too.
Thanks guys![/QUOTE]
I just stayed three nights at the Double Tree. It was the cheapest points close to the action. I never got to the action because of my favorites. Anyway, the hotel is not as nice as the Renaissance or even the Marriott Executive Apartments but is in a party central. Bars were packed up and down the street with wonderful eye candy all Friday and Sunday night. Also I had no problem bringing two different girls in.
FYI. The street gets jammed on Friday and Saturday nights so give yourself plenty of time to get there and don't plan to be able to do any in and out trips quickly.
Not all things of course went according to plan, alas I only had 4 because Milan at Bomboa gave me a fire to put out. Emergency is over and I can recommend Sirio Augusta private hospital. Options were limited on a Saturday evening and at least I got to see a doctor unlike American hospitals. So I had a weekend of rest forced upon me. I am giving consideration now to getting travel insurance because this is not the first time the sword cut its sheeth.
I'm off to Curitiba next, even the locals' forum is kinda dead but I needed a cheaper place to finish the month out, there its mostly Prives and GPS. I am hesitant to say this but, at 57 Friends House I went to a 2nd time Friday afternoon where another American was present. An Asian guy who seems to be a regular and fluent in Porto. Don't bother speaking to him, he gets very passive aggressive to the extent I just decided to leave before he ruined my already stressful day.
Also on Scandallo, even my shitty Visa works there (for cover) and to add to my report there was no more than 3 negras but around 7 short haired garotas in case you like that. It is worth going just to see it but I recommend going before 7. Maybe Friday was actually slow but I barely saw any 9's, I'd say if you averaged the looks out it would be 7.5 Everyman has his own 10.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2679330]Too bad about Argentina. It used to be very good for the face-to-face club scene. But then I heard they closed all of the puta palaces down. Well, I'm certain you can still get a good piece of steak there face-to-face, if not a piece of ass haha![/QUOTE]There are still clubs left, just not good and overpriced. Based on that, I think they did not closed all puta places. Those places were closed because they gave the government a reason to. I think it maybe ok to have clubs like Scandallo but not 4x4.
I also guess that the club scene probably was already going downhill quality wise and overpriced by that point.
You saw the 7 short haired garotas on Friday?
[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2679519]Also on Scandallo, even my shitty Visa works there (for cover) and to add to my report there was no more than 3 negras but around 7 short haired garotas in case you like that. It is worth going just to see it but I recommend going before 7. Maybe Friday was actually slow but I barely saw any 9's, I'd say if you averaged the looks out it would be 7.5 Everyman has his own 10.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2679519]Not all things of course went according to plan, Also on Scandallo, even my shitty Visa works there (for cover) and to add to my report there was no more than 3 negras but around 7 short haired garotas in case you like that. It is worth going just to see it but I recommend going before 7. Maybe Friday was actually slow but I barely saw any 9's, I'd say if you averaged the looks out it would be 7.5 Everyman has his own 10.[/QUOTE]I certainly agree with your quality assessment. It's not loaded with nines. I would generally say more 7+ girls on offer per square meter than any other place on planet earth. I am completely confident in that statement. Why are you saying arrive before 7 though? Yes cover is cheaper but it's surely not the same. It doesn't really "start" in terms of lots of girls till after ten and there was a palpable difference between 10:30 and 11:30 even. I recommend a post 10 Pm arrival.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2679615]There are still clubs left, just not good and overpriced. Based on that, I think they did not closed all puta places. Those places were closed because they gave the government a reason to. I think it maybe ok to have clubs like Scandallo but not 4x4.
I also guess that the club scene probably was already going downhill quality wise and overpriced by that point.[/QUOTE]The lack of good P4 P scene makes for a great Seeking Arrangements scene on the flip side. If you like to wine and dine them (I do) and walk hand in hand and all that GF stuff it's a good spot (knowing many of you don't care for that). Getting an 8 with firm DDs and bareback and a 9. 5 fluent English speaker in two dates in two days with a list of 5-6 others I coulda booked seems quite wonderful to me. And def Buenos Aires is unlike many South American cities. You could easily think you are in Europe.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2679330]Too bad about Argentina. It used to be very good for the face-to-face club scene. But then I heard they closed all of the puta palaces down. Well, I'm certain you can still get a good piece of steak there face-to-face, if not a piece of ass haha![/QUOTE]Madaho's was great, but Cocodrilo was my favorite. It was like Casarao in SP. I spent many months in BA between 2005-2009.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2679732]Madaho's was great, but Cocodrilo was my favorite. It was like Casarao in SP. I spent many months in BA between 2005-2009.[/QUOTE]I really liked Hook and Catto which were close to each other. Occasionally you could find some amazing surprises there.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2679672]You saw the 7 short haired garotas on Friday?[/QUOTE]Yes, but only one had a classic Pixie cut and none were nock outs. I'm meeting a personal 10 in Ctiba this week.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2679690]I certainly agree with your quality assessment. It's not loaded with nines. I would generally say more 7+ girls on offer per square meter than any other place on planet earth. I am completely confident in that statement. Why are you saying arrive before 7 though? Yes cover is cheaper but it's surely not the same. It doesn't really "start" in terms of lots of girls till after ten and there was a palpable difference between 10:30 and 11:30 even. I recommend a post 10 Pm arrival.[/QUOTE]I only recommend it purely for the cover. I was there Friday night 2230 - 130. I did notice an influx of local men there after 12 am. There was a lily white ruiva with blue eyes pealed to a regular at the bar entire time.
I will say though I prefer boates over clinicas. I get as much pleasure out of observing and making my choice as I do the deed itself. Most clinicas to my understanding show only 1 girl at a time. What I really want is the FKK / showhouse experience but Europe is effectively dead now. So maybe the Rio termas is the closest thing left? A den of naked women to choose from.
[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2679751]Yes, but only one had a classic Pixie cut and none were nock outs. I'm meeting a personal 10 in Ctiba this week.[/QUOTE]The last real knockout I met at Scandallo was from Curitiba. Name was Sarah, and she had a blue-eyed, blonde, German look. Maybe because that's where her people arrived to Brazil from, Germany.
[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2679751]Yes, but only one had a classic Pixie cut and none were nock outs. I'm meeting a personal 10 in Ctiba this week.
I only recommend it purely for the cover. I was there Friday night 2230 - 130. I did notice an influx of local men there after 12 am. There was a lily white ruiva with blue eyes pealed to a regular at the bar entire time.
I will say though I prefer boates over clinicas. I get as much pleasure out of observing and making my choice as I do the deed itself. Most clinicas to my understanding show only 1 girl at a time. What I really want is the FKK / showhouse experience but Europe is effectively dead now. So maybe the Rio termas is the closest thing left? A den of naked women to choose from.[/QUOTE]It's a long haul and out in the countryside but maybe the pool party at Fazendinha would float your boat. Gone Fishing just got back and he wrote it up in the Campinas thread. Definitely requires some adventurous spirit and the girls are in bikinis not nude but that same nearly naked girl buffet experience that many of us love.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2679732]... but Cocodrilo was my favorite. ...[/QUOTE]I think this one is in front of the cemetery. It is still open.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2679693]The lack of good P4 P scene makes for a great Seeking Arrangements scene on the flip side. If you like to wine and dine them (I do) and walk hand in hand and all that GF stuff it's a good spot (knowing many of you don't care for that). Getting an 8 with firm DDs and bareback and a 9. 5 fluent English speaker in two dates in two days with a list of 5-6 others I coulda booked seems quite wonderful to me. And def Buenos Aires is unlike many South American cities. You could easily think you are in Europe.[/QUOTE]Could you tell me how long are the girls you dated on seeking on average? I usually only look at new ones that just register recently.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2679801]Could you tell me how long are the girls you dated on seeking on average? I usually only look at new ones that just register recently.[/QUOTE]I don't pay too close attention other than if it's obvious she's been on a few years I avoid. But most probably a few months. Up to a year. But it's never a sure thing because some girls go off and come on with new profiles. Anyhow the texting tells the story.
I search 22-24 year old latinas as first filter. And only expand past that if I can't find one. I filter out curvy girls in US because that just means fat. But elsewhere it means built and you don't want to filter them.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2679798]I think this one is in front of the cemetery. It is still open.[/QUOTE]New Port is in front of the Cemetery. Cocodrilo is in Calle Gallo, between Cordoba and Santa Fe. They ruined it when they opened the restaurant downstairs.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2679816]New Port is in front of the Cemetery. Cocodrilo is in Calle Gallo, between Cordoba and Santa Fe. They ruined it when they opened the restaurant downstairs.[/QUOTE]I messed up. There was another one that is not new port is by the cemetery. The Cocodrilo has an outdoor patio on the third floor. Many girls were asking US $200, some less.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2679816]New Port is in front of the Cemetery. Cocodrilo is in Calle Gallo, between Cordoba and Santa Fe. They ruined it when they opened the restaurant downstairs.[/QUOTE]New Port is gone. It's a restaurant now.
There's a place called Delirios nearby tho. I've had fun there. Kinda upscale.
To my knowledge it's the only nighttime gig in town.
Another fun, fun, fun week in Sampa:
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2679826]...There's a place called Delirios nearby tho. I've had fun there. Kinda upscale...[/QUOTE]I think that is the other place by the cemetery. The girls are better looking and the price is also higher.
Some members are having a Buenos Aires discussion within this thread. That's cool. I'm all for spontaneous conversation.
I would just suggest referencing Buenos Aires in posts here so everyone knows where and what we're discussing.
Did anyone staid at the quite new Hilton Garden Inn yet? Is it guest friendly?
IIRC the original board was Argentina Private, ISG was a knock on from that. AP was started by Jackson and centered on BsAs during the Black / Madahos / Triangle golden era, just after the coralito when everything was very cheap. I caught the end of that scene and it was very cool. Even met Jackson. AP is pretty moribund now, although I go over there every few months to see if anything's changed. We should ask the mods to start an Argentine ISG forum. It's a hassle having a separate login for AP. Plus Argentina never comes up on the ISG front page so I forget about it.
Some noises being made about a new club opening up in BsAs.
Why do some world class cities have such lame mongering scenes (e. G. Paris)? Why do some cities which used to have great scenes now suck (BsAs). That's why I say enjoy having a place like Scandallos, because it could disappear or be driven underground overnight.
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[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2680097]Some members are having a Buenos Aires discussion within this thread. That's cool. I'm all for spontaneous conversation.
I would just suggest referencing Buenos Aires in posts here so everyone knows where and what we're discussing.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2680177]Some noises being made about a new club opening up in BsAs.
Why do some world class cities have such lame mongering scenes (e. G. Paris)? Why do some cities which used to have great scenes now suck (BsAs). That's why I say enjoy having a place like Scandallos, because it could disappear or be driven underground overnight.[/QUOTE]I've had some debates with members about the machinations of "legal" Brazilian prostitution. I think the bottom-line is all venues in all parts of the world operate within the whims and tolerance of the local government and their law enforcement. A determined city can shutter any mongering establishment regardless of the law.
Romp in SP this weekend any else?
List out your top 2 or 3 in Jardins. I'm sure other members would like to know too. Thanks!
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2679506]To answer your question re Jardins, my first exposure and many of them were at Tangara 200. It still has a special place in my heart because several of my best experiences were taking girls from there to my hotel for the night. I went there last Saturday and was not disappointed.
I met My current best lover at Chanes. I don't know if it is still open. There are many in Jardins, Vanis Way etc. If you want you can PM me.[/QUOTE]
I Stopped in Tangara today. Was there for a short time in the afternoon. There were several pretty girls there. A regular that has kept in contact with me since 2018 is coming tonight so I did not session. It appears they have changed their practice a bit. Several men came in and soon a girl would come in with a trowel ready to go to the room with them. My guess is they called in ahead of time and scheduled with the specific girl. I don't remember that happening much pre covid. I would have taken a session with a couple of them but as I was getting ready to request them someone came in and took them.
Tangera Forista Discount.
Tangera is great! I need to pay a visit again. ABC gave many of us ISGers tours of that and other clinicas.
Does the place still discount for mongers who post reviews on GPGuia?
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2681238]I Stopped in Tangara today. Was there for a short time in the afternoon. There were several pretty girls there. A regular that has kept in contact with me since 2018 is coming tonight so I did not session. It appears they have changed their practice a bit. Several men came in and soon a girl would come in with a trowel ready to go to the room with them. My guess is they called in ahead of time and scheduled with the specific girl. I don't remember that happening much pre covid. I would have taken a session with a couple of them but as I was getting ready to request them someone came in and took them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2681238]I Stopped in Tangara today. Was there for a short time in the afternoon. There were several pretty girls there. A regular that has kept in contact with me since 2018 is coming tonight so I did not session. It appears they have changed their practice a bit. Several men came in and soon a girl would come in with a trowel ready to go to the room with them. My guess is they called in ahead of time and scheduled with the specific girl. I don't remember that happening much pre covid. I would have taken a session with a couple of them but as I was getting ready to request them someone came in and took them.[/QUOTE]In all clinicas, you can WhatsApp or call ahead and schedule a girl. I have been doing that more often once I knew more girls, especially the most popular ones. Lots of locals do this.
Tangara is a zoo. Lots of guys coming in and out or just hanging out in the courtyard. They usually list a daily roster of 30 girls or more but I only see small portion of the lineup at a time. I guess the rest of the girls are busy in rooms.
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2681238]... It appears they have changed their practice a bit. Several men came in and soon a girl would come in with a trowel ready to go to the room with them. My guess is they called in ahead of time and scheduled with the specific girl. ...[/QUOTE]I did it with WhatsApp but sometimes they will ignore the messages. Occasionally they are some better looking girls and I have to make appointment to get my turn. Some just come to work for a few days then gone until next time.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2681266]...Does the place still discount for mongers who post reviews on GPGuia?[/QUOTE]I don't think there is a discount. It's already cheap.
I owe my enjoyment of Sao Paulo and really Brasil to ABC. I was thinking of him driving me to several of the houses today and how he would have the girls sit with us and talk for awhile not just walk in say tudo bem then walk out. Good times!
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2681266]Tangera Forista Discount.
Tangera is great! I need to pay a visit again. ABC gave many of us ISGers tours of that and other clinicas.
Does the place still discount for mongers who post reviews on GPGuia?[/QUOTE]
Check your PMs. Sent you one.
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2681318]I owe my enjoyment of Sao Paulo and really Brasil to ABC. I was thinking of him driving me to several of the houses today and how he would have the girls sit with us and talk for awhile not just walk in say tudo bem then walk out. Good times![/QUOTE]ABG (Alto Bom Gosto) was the local guy who took guys around Sao Paulo clinicas and other venues a few years back.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2681430]ABG (Alto Bom Gosto) was the local guy who took guys around Sao Paulo clinicas and other venues a few years back.[/QUOTE]I have had the same experience with ABG. But my understanding is he passed away couple of years ago. (RIP. May his soul rest in peace). Isn't that true. Or am I missing something.
[QUOTE=MRusa007;2681524]I have had the same experience with ABG. But my understanding is he passed away couple of years ago. (RIP. May his soul rest in peace). Isn't that true. Or am I missing something.[/QUOTE]Rovnak posted this awhile back:
"The last few years he had some health issues. He passed away in early 2020 unrelated to covid."
ABG was a good man.
[QUOTE=MRusa007;2681524]I have had the same experience with ABG. But my understanding is he passed away couple of years ago. (RIP. May his soul rest in peace). Isn't that true. Or am I missing something.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2681430]ABG (Alto Bom Gosto) was the local guy who took guys around Sao Paulo clinicas and other venues a few years back.[/QUOTE]My only experience in Sao Paulo was with ABG and he took me to a couple clinicas and I really enjoyed myself.
He was a very nice man and a great into into the scene. They all knew him and yes the owner / manager would talk to him and the girls knew him very well too.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2681290]I did it with WhatsApp but sometimes they will ignore the messages. Occasionally they are some better looking girls and I have to make appointment to get my turn. Some just come to work for a few days then gone until next time.
I don't think there is a discount. It's already cheap.[/QUOTE]This talk about 30 girls in Tangara and it being like a Zoo and also "already cheap" had perking my ears up. I hardly ever go to such clubs because I prefer choosing girls over photoacompanhante and exchanging some WhatsApp, and generally I find the total cost of these clubs with entrance fees, overpriced drinks, etc. Not worth it. But I should probably go sometime and if that one is recommended then perhaps.
But what is the procedure and price? Entrance? Girls only for short time hump and go, or how is it?
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2679479]Sorry if it's a repetitive question, but upon searching the forums the only prive scene I've found is in Santana, been there, the talent is okay but damn it's far all the way north in bumfuck nowhere.
Any neighborhoods besides Santana where there are cheap prives grouped together like the ones in Rio? (50-100 reais).
I saw the clinica scene in moema but those all seem to be around 200-300 reais per session. Coming from Colombia, I'm a cheap charlie for sp.
Thanks for your time.[/QUOTE]
I don't know if Rua Alvaro de Carvalho, 107 fits your description. This is a building with apartments very central Bela Vista area, you can just go in, and there are several apartments, one one the 4th floor anyway is action but I suppose all of them are. I usually don't go to such place where I don't have an appointment with a specific girl, but I was there once to learn that you never make appointments with specific girls, it's just you talk to the boss whatever, and then someone comes to attend you. In my case, I liked the girl who came, very small, I like them around 1. 50 cm (I sometimes search on photoacompanhante for the smallest number I can find, and thus found a really sweet and hot baby who I kind'a adopted even.) Anyway, so that small but super curvy girl came and attended me. Negotiating the extras it became clear that they are shelling out half of the money to the boss, so any extras should be paid in cash. I think the regular 1 hour was priced at R$ 100, so you know she just gets R$ 50. Negotiate the BBBJ+CIM for R$ 50 and you have something that seems overall really fair. I think you can just go there, walk up and ask who's there. That may be better than just only relying on your luck with who will be allotted to you.
But then, I don't know if that is what you mean. I am curious about Santana, which places you have been (address? I have marked two in my map, Rua Dr. Cesar, 209, and the other one is Rua Henrique Bernardelli, 119. I got those addresses from photoacompanhantes replying on my WhatsApp. There were some really interesting ads, but I don't know how real they are. Are those the places you mean in Santana? And do you just walk in and get a line-up or something?
I find that there are some interesting offers in Tatuape on Photoacompanhantes, and they are more often than not real. I had a dupla booked there. And I quite enjoyed that, even though as it usually is, the second one is a bit past the age I'm usually looking for. I came with the kinds of stuff I wanted them to wear to be really pretty for me, and they absolutely loved it. They took photos of themselves working me but made sure none of our faces was to be seen. While the older of the two (30 and a bit) was BBBJ working my dick the other was giving me a lot of pleasure with her mouth in my face. And when I came they started playing with my cum a bit more taking fotos. It was really pleasant. Both in good spirits.
Now what was NOT pleasant was the stupid motel. They actually wanted to charge me TWICE the price just because I had two girls in my room. This sucked, completely ridiculous. It's also a very busy place, so you actually have to wait in line for substantial amount of time even to check out. So, I will go back to Tatuape but will avoid Messalina.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2681807]This talk about 30 girls in Tangara and it being like a Zoo and also "already cheap" had perking my ears up. I hardly ever go to such clubs because I prefer choosing girls over photoacompanhante and exchanging some WhatsApp, and generally I find the total cost of these clubs with entrance fees, overpriced drinks, etc. Not worth it. But I should probably go sometime and if that one is recommended then perhaps.
But what is the procedure and price? Entrance? Girls only for short time hump and go, or how is it?[/QUOTE]There are no entrance fees and they may sell drinks but not in the main lobby. You go in the main lobby and sit down. They call the available girls in and they come to you one by one and tell you their name and hug you and a kiss on the cheek. Then you tell the manager which one you want and you go with her to the room. You can ask for 1/2 or 1 hour. My last hour on a credit card came out to 200 reai. And it was worth it! She will probably want you to shower before and she will also.
I have been to Panda in Rio. Many trips to Scandollo and Tangara etc. , have a trip coming up mid April. 3 friends are going. Creating some list of girls from Seeking. Boy they all want $1000 (USD). Literally I had to shut them out. Just painful. Lots of my old contacts from pre-covid are no more in the scene, got married, left SP, numbers changed. So struggling. With a hope that I will be able to get some action from Scandaloo?
What other places are as good as Scandallo. (don't like the option of taking the girl to the hotel). Like the Solarium, 4 x 4, Montecarlo, (Rio) and Scandallo type of place. Drink, sit around, fall in love, go upstairs, come back rinse and repeat. Haha.
The main question.
This time, we are thinking of getting 5-6 girls for 3 guys, get a nice Motel with pool / jacuzzi inside the room and party for 3-6 hours. (Presidential suite in Panda). What will be good Motel suggestions for a good Luxury party.
And Brazilian women! And Brazilian generic Cialis! Getting ready to drive to GRU for my flight home. Had to send my friend home. She made me promise to keep in touch. After practicing Portuguese and English and having breakfast I asked if she would like to make love before she had to leave. Of Course! She said. We had already made love last night and earlier this morning. Darn good for an old man and really surprised me she could make me come three times.
I met her at a clinic in 2018 and we have kept in touch even though I was not able to come to Brasil since then until last week. She quit clinic work shortly after we met and I don't think she does anything like it any more.
So three weekends, full nights with girls I met in 2018 and one nice new session at Tangara. Wow! Wish I lived here like Vagabundo1. I do bow to his expertise and especially his 900 per week girl friend. Kudos!
So Tchau but I will return!
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2681807]This talk about 30 girls in Tangara and it being like a Zoo and also "already cheap" had perking my ears up..?[/QUOTE]It was about 120 for 30 minutes and 180 for an hour when I was there last year. I think there maybe a 15 minutes option too but I never confirm that. In addition to WW's post, you can hang around in the court yard, or bar in the basement patio to chat with the girls. The girls will hang around outside frequently to smoke or whatever. You can also just walk to the large room where all girls are to talk or choose. The receptionists are the most friendly among all clinicas that I have been too.
The price also reflect the room condition but it is relatively clean. There is shower but no toilet.
One major benefit for me is that I don't have to wait for girls because there are more. It seems that I always need to wait for someone at Prime.
[QUOTE=MRusa007;2681841]This time, we are thinking of getting 5-6 girls for 3 guys, get a nice Motel with pool / jacuzzi inside the room and party for 3-6 hours. (Presidential suite in Panda). What will be good Motel suggestions for a good Luxury party.[/QUOTE]Pick your pleasure.
[URL]https://lushmotel.com.br/?lang=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.asturiasmotel.com.br/[/URL]
The Dollar / Real currency exchange has dropped +20%. This page has been quiet lately now. LOL.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2682349]The Dollar / Real currency exchange has dropped +20%. This page has been quiet lately now. LOL.[/QUOTE]You can also claim that the BRL has appreciated 32% in the past 18 months and during that journey the forum was quite active, considering everything that was happening in the world. There will be people sensitive to the F / X movement, especially those that spent significant time in Brazil, but for people just traveling for 1-3 weeks, I do not think it will make too much difference. IMHO.
Strange question: has anybody ever tried to stay overnight in one of these love motels or used it like a normal hotel?
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2681881]Pick your pleasure.
[URL]https://lushmotel.com.br/?lang=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.asturiasmotel.com.br/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Yep.
Oh yea.
I like love story in central SP.
But I have done so at motel Malaga and motels in Rio like. Oh, what was that one in largo do Machado.
It works great.
You just have to get the pernoite check in times down.
[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2682548]Strange question: has anybody ever tried to stay overnight in one of these love motels or used it like a normal hotel?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Longtime reader and first time poster. Thank you to all the contributors for the really helpful information shared.
I'm headed to SP later in the month and will be there over a weekend. On past trips I've been to Scandallo and Bomboa and then to lush or overnight at the renaissance. This will be my first time in SP over a weekend and based on the posts seems like these may be very slow or even closed. Any suggestions for alternatives to find companion options for overnights or to collect numbers for the days the clubs will be closed?
Hello fellow mongers,
I am headed to Brazil next week and am currently trying to make reservations with some girls. Some of the ones I like (reputable) ask for some downpayment. And they accept pix and rarely paypal. Looks like I got my paypal blocked while sending prepayments to them so I am trying to find out if there are other ways.
In some countries you can buy a gift card online and send them the code. Is that something that could work in Brazil? Are there other ways? Noone accepts bitcoin unfortunately.
Otherwise I think there's a way if someone local could help me (for a fee of course, but also for the brotherhood of mongers).
If we could meet in person. I could give you cash and you could send pix payments to the girls I need to send to. Will appreciate anyone who could help. I might need that to happen on 12th somewhere around Hilton Marumbi but I can also get to a place that works for you and is not too far Or I can even send you bitcoin now and you can send pix (in small amounts since we're all strangers on the internet).
Thanks in advance!
Seen a few people in this thread talking about Buenos Aires. Anyone know if there's something close to a Scandallo in BS As? What would be the best spot currently in terms of quality in BS As? Thank you.
[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2682548]Strange question: has anybody ever tried to stay overnight in one of these love motels or used it like a normal hotel?[/QUOTE]The nice ones you can't use as a normal hotel IE pay a daily rate and use it as a normal hotel room. I asked the people at asturias and they said it wasn't possible. There are some smaller ones of less quality that will but honestly a decent airbnb or 3 star hotel room will be better so not worth it.
You can stay overnight tho. It's actually a better deal. Different hotels start their overnight differently but usually it's around 12 pm and you leave at noon or 2 pm. It's more or less the same fee as a 4 hour stay.
I actually had an issue with my Airbnb and so I was technically homeless for the night. I ended up taking a girl from cafe photo to asturias and was going to bunk with a fellow forum member who was staying at a nearby hotel but I called the front desk and they said I didn't have to leave until 2 pm. The rooms there are amazing and food is delicious so recommend you go and do an overnight if you aren't too comfortable taking a girl to your place. It's like 320 BRL and scandallo rooms are 250 or around there so it's better to take her there. MIRRORS. My fav.
Yep I noticed on the website what you said about the overnight rate. My experience was only in the afternoons & I'the imagine that the afternoon traffic is higher than overnight (guys got to get home to the family) esp. On weekdays. Is that what call girls mean when they put that little cafecito emoji in their Twitter feeds? Asturias was really nice. Waterfalls! Fucking in glass showers!
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2682991]The nice ones you can't use as a normal hotel IE pay a daily rate and use it as a normal hotel room. I asked the people at asturias and they said it wasn't possible. There are some smaller ones of less quality that will but honestly a decent airbnb or 3 star hotel room will be better so not worth it.
You can stay overnight tho. It's actually a better deal. Different hotels start their overnight differently but usually it's around 12 pm and you leave at noon or 2 pm. It's more or less the same fee as a 4 hour stay.
I actually had an issue with my Airbnb and so I was technically homeless for the night. I ended up taking a girl from cafe photo to asturias and was going to bunk with a fellow forum member who was staying at a nearby hotel but I called the front desk and they said I didn't have to leave until 2 pm. The rooms there are amazing and food is delicious so recommend you go and do an overnight if you aren't too comfortable taking a girl to your place. It's like 320 BRL and scandallo rooms are 250 or around there so it's better to take her there. MIRRORS. My fav.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=TomJohnSt2000;2682947]...
Otherwise I think there's a way if someone local could help me (for a fee of course, but also for the brotherhood of mongers)....[/QUOTE]I think you can try ask hotel concierge or tip someone at the hotel to do it for you.
[QUOTE=GigiBuffon;2682496]You can also claim that the BRL has appreciated 32% in the past 18 months and during that journey the forum was quite active, considering everything that was happening in the world. There will be people sensitive to the F / X movement, especially those that spent significant time in Brazil, but for people just traveling for 1-3 weeks, I do not think it will make too much difference. IMHO.[/QUOTE]That's why it is important to not pay gringo prices, it may not have matter when the rate was 5.9 but how about now?
Always tell them you've been to the place many times and pay a certain local price. Even if she is down for BBFS. If you spend a week together, BBFS will most likely happen naturally.
I've spent a week with girls from various boites for 0 to 5,000 R so don't pay 1500 per HR or 2 k per night!
[QUOTE=Nounce;2683054]I think you can try ask hotel concierge or tip someone at the hotel to do it for you.[/QUOTE]Asking doesn't cost anything, but I wonder how many people want to have a pix transfer to a p**a on their account statement, at least if they are married.
My health issue seems to be subsiding finally. First Dr I saw thought it was friggin chickenpox but I can't get that because I'm vaxed against it. Because I wasnt going to fuck anyway I decided to check out how poppin Scandallo really gets on a Wednesday night. I was there from 23-0200 and the results more or less match the previous report I made in terms of girls and looks, - only a handful of 9's and "lily-whites". I got 2 girls numbers but both were traveled so I doubt Ill burn the cash on them. I recognized many of the same girls from 2 weeks ago except this time there were a shit ton more local men. I can tell yall its more than likely these Brazilian elites that are spoiling these girls with 1000 Real prices. They clearly have money to spend after being bottled up from covid.
The Brazilian economy is suffering a K Chart "recovery" just like the US. Very high inflation except the real is at least recovering but other Brasilians tell me the wages have failed to keep up for the majority of people.
Having considered the Weimarfication of the USD vs Real I looked again for the first time in a while at Colombia and the situation there isn't great either.
Casas are still dirt cheap and definitely the way to go but Prepagos are asking 2-300 K which amount to 60 usd so basically equivalent to Brasil more or less. So Colombia is still cheaper but not by much and you have far more selection in Brasil in terms of looks, if you care about food I find Brasilian food a lot more palatable than typical latin American food.
The main issue at hand therefore isn't that our destinations are changing but that the USD is toilet paper presently.
If my condition continues to improve hopefully I can be in Campinas this weekend to check out the "Farm". I'm staying at the Ipiranga love hotel which is a good value. Itd be nice to set up a local group like they have in Rio.
Link for motels, hoars.
Along with a credit card and the phone or chlp that links to that account, the following two links are all that you need for Brazil.
[URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]
[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2682610]Yep.
Oh yea.
I like love story in central SP.
But I have done so at motel Malaga and motels in Rio like. Oh, what was that one in largo do Machado.
It works great.
You just have to get the pernoite check in times down.[/QUOTE]
Been here few times, but after covid, after a long gap.
Staying at the Hilton, Morumbi.
All the prior year contacts have vanished, married etc. , etc.
So hunting starts. Step 1 from Seeking.
Day time fun. Have asked few from Seeking to come. Prices are all over. Some want 5000? I really had to shut them down. So I have prices of 750-1000 for 2-3 hours. I have picked a 3-some for 500 each per hour. (crazy).
Night scanallo.
Know Tangara. What are the new Massage places that we can go during the day?
We are thinking of getting a group activity. 3 guys and 6 girls. Found 1 from seeking who has many friends. But most of them are average. 1400 for the full night for group activity. Is this sounding right?
LUSH hotel is 2300 from 3 pm to next day morning. Is this fine? Looking for posh and luxury place.
What is the average per girl cost at Scandollo. Previously it used to be 100-120 usd for 1 hour. How is it now?
I have done lot of reading below. Thank you for all the hobbyist.
Was going to hit Scandalo tonite, but went to Casarao instead.
Tonite there was a great selection of garotas.
Casarao can be hit and miss on the quality of garotas, however, tonite was pretty good.
Just finishing my second trip to Sao Paulo, was first here three weeks ago. Arrived early Tuesday morning.
I met a civilian on another site (fetlife) and have been talking to her through WhatsApp for the past few weeks. Really hot black woman in her 20's, for some reason she really took a shine to me.
I set it up so her name is on the room and she is able to get a key and use the hotel facilities without problem. She arrived later than expected, around 8:00 Tuesday night, and stayed with me until Thursday late morning. When we were in the room, it was just non-stop fucking, and she only wanted to do anal or suck me off. She was amazing, I'm too old for that shit, if she had stayed another day I would be dead. Greatest week ever.
So then last night (Thursday night) me and a colleague went out to O'Malley's for dinner and a couple beers, and then parked at a table in the Renaissance lobby bar and watched the show. Ton of girls there, a couple of them really attractive, and not many guys. Most of the girls clearly know each other and were socializing, having a lot of fun at the bar, one or two were off to the side just sitting trying to make eye contact. My buddy and I were content to just make eye contact and smile, were not going to do anything, but as they were closing up these two that I had mistaken as tourists sat down with us and started talking. One more classic darker girl with all the curves, and another slimmer light-skinned girl. The skinny one speaks pretty good English and was very energetic and excited. Immediately started talking about their plan to go over to Amsterdam, then Zurich and work, did not play coy about what she was there for at all.
So then my buddy excuses himself, politely slips the girls a small honorarium for their time at the table, at which point the skinny one asks to go upstairs. I asked how much, she said 500 each. I asked if she would take $100 USD and she said yes, so even though I had nothing left in the tank and was too many drinks in and knew this was going to be a taffy pull, I said let's go.
So these two hotties came up for an hour for 500 reals each, which I thought was good, and we had a great time, they were fun and really put in some effort. As expected, I couldn't even get close to finishing but on a different day that would have been spectacular. There were also other options there at the bar that I thought at least looked superior, although no idea how the service would be.
Looks like a good chance I will be back in a few weeks, so assuming my dick doesn't fall off I hope to share some better stories and maybe get out to Moema and Scandallo.
[QUOTE=TomJohnSt2000;2682947]Hello fellow mongers,
Some of the ones I like (reputable) ask for some downpayment. [/QUOTE]How does one reconcile using the words "reputable" and "down payment" in the same sentence?
Dear colleagues,
I am contemplating exploring the Ayahuasca thing. As I understand, it would be better to do it in some reputable, safe, and not-too-touristy place (I do wish for it to be somewhat authentic). Would you kindly share your experiences and guidance? (obviously doesn't need to be in SP or even in Brazil).
[QUOTE=FRobertson;2683675]How does one reconcile using the words "reputable" and "down payment" in the same sentence?[/QUOTE]I was thinking the same. A bunch of reports on the local forum of girls who ask for an advance fee and then ghosting the guys after. I stay away for girls who ask for an advance or I play stupid and tell them that I don't have pix because I am from the states and that I am not here to play games of not showing up. That has worked for one girl I really wanted to see.
[QUOTE=XXL;2500813]Up and running again according to a clinica girl I sessioned. Used to be called "a boate das boates" (the mother of all discos), because it opened till daybreak and girls gathered there after other places closed for the night.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;2510194]I went to Love Story late, late, late one night on my first visit to Sao Paulo. Got drunk off my ass! Only the second time in all my trips to Brazil. It was only so-so, although I did leave with somebody. A lot of the girls who work in other clubs throughout the city would show up at Love Story late. I never felt compelled to go back. But glad I did it once. I can check it off my bucket list.[/QUOTE]Haven't seen any reports on club Love Story in a long time. Pre-Covid it use to be the discoteca that GP's would go to after all Boates closed. Where a Monger could make a late-night attempt to get a GP.
There some who may not be able to stay up late at night or care to, LOL, but for those who do and like the club scene, has anyone been to club Love Story? Any up to date Love Story reports? Or is it Closed?
Hi guys,
I'm the first time in SP, have red many posts from here. Which are the best attraction which one have to do while being here:
- where one can meet normal women (more in the 30-40 year bracket) in the city during daytime.
- where to party at night for a hint change of meeting women for gringos, not for paid ones.
- which is the two best for paid services (red a lot about Scandalo, any worthwhile competition).
Thanks a lot and. Maybe we run in each other there.
[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2682948]Seen a few people in this thread talking about Buenos Aires. Anyone know if there's something close to a Scandallo in BS As? What would be the best spot currently in terms of quality in BS As? Thank you.[/QUOTE]You're 11 years too late.
[QUOTE=UniversalX;2683839]Haven't seen any reports on club Love Story in a long time. Pre-Covid it use to be the discoteca that GP's would go to after all Boates closed. Where a Monger could make a late-night attempt to get a GP.
There some who may not be able to stay up late at night or care to, LOL, but for those who do and like the club scene, has anyone been to club Love Story? Any up to date Love Story reports? Or is it Closed?[/QUOTE]Love story closed at old location in Republica last year. I think they could not afford rent anymore. They meanwhile reopened almost next door to Casarao on Augusta. Place is much smaller now, I think it's Thur.-sat only. As before afterparty till noon I assume.
Club Love Story.
Sounds like a SP version of Mosaico in RJ.
The Consolação 860, Sao Paulo, State of Sao Paulo 01302-907 Brazil.
[URL]https://exame.com/casual/love-story-icone-da-noite-de-sp-reabrira-sob-o-comando-de-facundo-guerra/[/URL]
[QUOTE=UniversalX;2683839]Haven't seen any reports on club Love Story in a long time. Pre-Covid it use to be the discoteca that GP's would go to after all Boates closed. Where a Monger could make a late-night attempt to get a GP.
There some who may not be able to stay up late at night or care to, LOL, but for those who do and like the club scene, has anyone been to club Love Story? Any up to date Love Story reports? Or is it Closed?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2682948] What would be the best spot currently in terms of quality in BS As?[/QUOTE]The airport. 3 hours and you're in SP.
Sorry, just couldn't resist :)))
[QUOTE=MRusa007;2683414]Been here few times, but after covid, after a long gap.
Staying at the Hilton, Morumbi.
All the prior year contacts have vanished, married etc. , etc.
So hunting starts. Step 1 from Seeking.
Day time fun. Have asked few from Seeking to come. Prices are all over. Some want 5000? I really had to shut them down. So I have prices of 750-1000 for 2-3 hours. I have picked a 3-some for 500 each per hour. (crazy).
Night scanallo.
Know Tangara. What are the new Massage places that we can go during the day?
We are thinking of getting a group activity. 3 guys and 6 girls. Found 1 from seeking who has many friends. But most of them are average. 1400 for the full night for group activity. Is this sounding right?.[/QUOTE]Man these prices are crazy, you are in Brazil, not LA. I would not pay these prices. Had twice a 3 some for 500, one hour, two girls, not 500 each. This last year. At my place. Taxi included. With OnlyFans and all the simps paying just to watch pussy, girls are asking premium prices, all over the world. Fuck in Eastern Europe costs like in Paris, the only decent place is still Colombia. If this is the trend, Sao Paulo will be only good for who likes trans.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2683996]Club Love Story.
Sounds like a SP version of Mosaico in RJ.
The Consolao 860, Sao Paulo, State of Sao Paulo 01302-907 Brazil.
[URL]https://exame.com/casual/love-story-icone-da-noite-de-sp-reabrira-sob-o-comando-de-facundo-guerra/[/URL][/QUOTE]This is an exciting news to me. I happen to like a couple of places one of the new owners has. I think it will be very good if they can manage this place like the other properties.
Went to Tangara on Thursday and had a quicky with a tatted readhead Italiana for 120. They only had like 10 girls there.
Went back to 57 Friend's but it was dead as a dorn nail but I met up with a fellow scholar who hooked me up with the whatsapp group, thanks J.
He recommended I try Casarao and it did indeed work out. Casarao was very busy and had around 50 girls. Definitely more working class vibe but still plenty of brancas etc. Most ask for 500 but I've been able to get them down to 400, which I did with a blue eyed Redhead from Parana. Casarao fees are 50 for consumo and 100 for room. I never asked if there was a take home fee.
The next day (Friday) I repeated what I did. Tangara was even drier so I left and 57 was dead too, went to Prime which had about 15 girls and several 7+ but by this time they were peaking in business (after 4 pm) and ran out of rooms!? So I left again and went to Miruna which is close by and had a tall morena for 250 an hour.
It was Friday so I knew I wasnt done yet, Cararao being budget friendly I decided to go there after going back to my hotel to literally recharge. Casarao had most of the same girls from previous night and I chose another tall petite morena who wanted to get bitey. Some of the girls at Casarao seemed pretty firmly set at 500 but once you've let them understand the whitest girl in the club went for 400 you've got them beat. Rooms at Casarao also have radios that are Bluetooth capable if you want to play your music.
Good report. Looking forward to seeing you in Rio. You will find the clinicas / prives in Rio and Mosaico, Perola Negra similar to your venues in SP.
[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2684102]Went to Tangara on Thursday and had a quicky with a tatted readhead Italiana for 120. They only had like 10 girls there.
Went back to 57 Friend's but it was dead as a dorn nail but I met up with a fellow scholar who hooked me up with the whatsapp group, thanks J.
He recommended I try Casarao and it did indeed work out. Casarao was very busy and had around 50 girls. Definitely more working class vibe but still plenty of brancas etc. Most ask for 500 but I've been able to get them down to 400, which I did with a blue eyed Redhead from Parana. Casarao fees are 50 for consumo and 100 for room. I never asked if there was a take home fee.
The next day (Friday) I repeated what I did. Tangara was even drier so I left and 57 was dead too, went to Prime which had about 15 girls and several 7+ but by this time they were peaking in business (after 4 pm) and ran out of rooms!? So I left again and went to Miruna which is close by and had a tall morena for 250 an hour.
It was Friday so I knew I wasnt done yet, Cararao being budget friendly I decided to go there after going back to my hotel to literally recharge. Casarao had most of the same girls from previous night and I chose another tall petite morena who wanted to get bitey..[/QUOTE]
I'm be one and a half months in SP starting in May. Given the cold night temperatures at this time of year, I'll have to pass on my favourite AirBnb because it has Aircon but no heating. I plan to stay a fair amount of days at Renaissance. Does the hotel have an in-room safe? Does the hotel have heating? Last time I stayed at Double Tree Itaim which had both the above. Renaissance is better situated than Double Tree for Casarao which now is reported to be operating (on my last trip it was still closed). Thanks.
Does anyone know if places like Tangara, Casarao, Scandallo would stay open during Easter and Tiradentes holiday?
[QUOTE=XXL;2684140]I plan to stay a fair amount of days at Renaissance. Does the hotel have an in-room safe? Does the hotel have heating?[/QUOTE]Yes and Yes. The Renaissance is probably the best "5 star quality" hotel for hobbying due to a combination of location, cost and girl friendliness.
[QUOTE=XXL;2684140]I'm be one and a half months in SP starting in May. Given the cold night temperatures at this time of year, I'll have to pass on my favourite AirBnb because it has Aircon but no heating. I plan to stay a fair amount of days at Renaissance. Does the hotel have an in-room safe? Does the hotel have heating? Last time I stayed at Double Tree Itaim which had both the above. Renaissance is better situated than Double Tree for Casarao which now is reported to be operating (on my last trip it was still closed). Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes to safe no to heat like most places but can request a portable heater. Considered one of the top hotels in SP. I avoid telling girls where I'm staying so they don't think they can jack up their prices because I'm staying at a nice hotel.
[QUOTE=XXL;2684140]I'm be one and a half months in SP starting in May. Given the cold night temperatures at this time of year, I'll have to pass on my favourite AirBnb because it has Aircon but no heating. I plan to stay a fair amount of days at Renaissance. Does the hotel have an in-room safe? Does the hotel have heating? Last time I stayed at Double Tree Itaim which had both the above. Renaissance is better situated than Double Tree for Casarao which now is reported to be operating (on my last trip it was still closed). Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2684283]Yes and Yes. The Renaissance is probably the best "5 star quality" hotel for hobbying due to a combination of location, cost and girl friendliness.[/QUOTE]Of the three big American SP hotels; the Renaissance, The Intercontinental, & The Grand Hyatt, only the Hyatt had a thermostat that actually heats and can maintain a room temperature at 76 degrees Fahrenheit when the weather outside turns chilly. Forget about heating in the other two 5 star hotels where thermostat heat does not exist, but it is not that bad. Room temperatures at the Renaissance and the Intercontinental never fell below 70 degrees during my stays so it is manageable even for a Florida boy like myself who prefers a warm 78 degrees Fahrenheit ambient temp in my home. My solution to the lack of room heating in Southern Brazil is to bring along my Patagonia Fleece Pullover. I wear it all the time in my hotel room and I am never cold.
I think the Hyatt is the best of these three 5 star hotels because it has the nicest rooms and offers the best hotel amenities, but it has the worst location of the three which is something that I can not ignore. It is therefore not my 1st choice in hotels in SP. The Renaissance & the Intercontinental have the best locations. The Renaissance has nicer rooms and just a little bit better location than the Intercontinental, but the Intercontinental has a nicer swimming pool than the Renaissance.
There are FL hookers that hang out at the Hyatt and Renaissance Lobby Bars if that is of interest to anyone. I have never seen hookers hanging out at the Intercontinental.
Of course, there are room safes in all 3 hotels. The Hyatt and Renaissance room safes were large enough to stow my 15 inch laptop. I can't remember if the Intercontinental room safe was equally as large or I had to stow my laptop in my suitcase.
My hotel preference is therefore simple: I view the Renaissance & Intercontinental as interchangeable. I will stay at whichever hotel offers me the best deal and on the basis of the current amount of hotel points (miles) and free voucher nights I have in my 2 Chase Hotel accounts.
On my almost upcoming visit which begins this week, I am staying 3 nights for free at the Intercontinental and 5 nights free at the Renaissance (Marriott) in addition to a few pay later nights at both hotels and I am also staying at the Grand Hyatt free on points a couple nights before I fly to RJ.
Why do you need a heater? The room will get pretty warm if you don't turn on the ac. I always keep the ac on otherwise the room gets stuffy.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2684379]Of the three big American SP hotels; the Renaissance, The Intercontinental, & The Grand Hyatt, only the Hyatt had a thermostat that actually heats and can maintain a room temperature at 76 degrees Fahrenheit when the [b]weather outside turns chilly[/b]. Forget about heating in the other two 5 star hotels where thermostat heat does not exist, but it is not that bad. Room temperatures at the Renaissance and the Intercontinental never fell below 70 degrees during my stays so it is manageable even for a Florida boy like myself who prefers a warm 78 degrees Fahrenheit ambient temp in my home. My solution to the lack of room heating in Southern Brazil is to bring along my Patagonia Fleece Pullover. I wear it all the time in my hotel room and I am never cold.
I think the Hyatt is the best of these three 5 star hotels because it has the nicest rooms and offers the best hotel amenities, but it has the worst location of the three which is something that I can not ignore. It is therefore not my 1st choice in hotels in SP. The Renaissance & the Intercontinental have the best locations. The Renaissance has nicer rooms and just a little bit better location than the Intercontinental, but the Intercontinental has a nicer swimming pool than the Renaissance.
There are FL hookers that hang out at the Hyatt and Renaissance Lobby Bars if that is of interest to anyone. I have never seen hookers hanging out at the Intercontinental.
Of course, there are room safes in all 3 hotels. The Hyatt and Renaissance room safes were large enough to stow my 15 inch laptop. I can't remember if the Intercontinental room safe was equally as large or I had to stow my laptop in my suitcase.
My hotel preference is therefore simple: I view the Renaissance & Intercontinental as interchangeable. I will stay at whichever hotel offers me the best deal and on the basis of the current amount of hotel points (miles) and free voucher nights I have in my 2 Chase Hotel accounts.
On my almost upcoming visit which begins this week, I am staying 3 nights for free at the Intercontinental and 5 nights free at the Renaissance (Marriott) in addition to a few pay later nights at both hotels and I am also staying at the Grand Hyatt free on points a couple nights before I fly to RJ.[/QUOTE]Good review, Thanks for posting! Also good utilization of Frequent Flyer / Hotel Rewards Points for free stays at Hotels. Frees up more funds for "entertainment"!
In May-June-July How cold does it get in SP and what type of Coat / Jacket does anyone recommend to bring / wear?
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2684385]Why do you need a heater? The room will get pretty warm if you don't turn on the ac. I always keep the ac on otherwise the room gets stuffy.[/QUOTE]Well, here it is, average low of 54-56F in May. Can get cool at night. I was in Lima in September, never been so cold im my life, nowhere to go, room temperature at 15°C all the time.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2684385]Why do you need a heater? The room will get pretty warm if you don't turn on the ac. I always keep the ac on otherwise the room gets stuffy.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. In SP you don't need a heater. Certainly not in May. There might be a few days late June to early August where it could be a bit chilly but it is not like Bogota for example. I requested a portable heater during my stay there, in SP winter never. During the day it gets warmer and heats up the room anyway.
[QUOTE=XXL;2684537]Well, here it is, average low of 54-56F in May. Can get cool at night. I was in Lima in September, never been so cold im my life, nowhere to go, room temperature at 15C all the time.[/QUOTE]The first time I went to Sao Paulo, it was during the winter months down there. Overall, what they call "cold" outside is nothing to me, but the temperature in my hotel was unacceptably cool with inadequate heat coming in through the ventilation, no matter how much I tried to adjust the temperature in my room. There were a number of problems with the place, Hotel Mercure on Lavandisca in Moema, that I never stayed there again and cannot recommend it.
Apologies if this has been asked before, but is it worthwhile mongering in São Paulo shortly before, during and after Carnaval? Does the talent dry up as people head away to party?
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2684439]In May-June-July How cold does it get in SP and what type of Coat / Jacket does anyone recommend to bring / wear?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=XXL;2684537]Well, here it is, average low of 54-56F in May. Can get cool at night. [/QUOTE]Here is the May 2022 forecast for SP.
[URL]https://www.accuweather.com/en/br/s%C3%A3o-paulo/45881/may-weather/45881[/URL]
As you can see the weather varies. On a sunny day SP weather can be real nice with a high around 76 F and all you may need is a windbreaker or nothing at all. But on a cloudy, rainy night the lows can be near 53 F which is not bad by Chicago or Berlin fall standards, but it warrants a versatile 3 season jacket if you want to be totally unaffected by the chill. And like I said in my previous post, I also recommend bringing a Patagonia Fleece Pullover or warm wool sweater to be completely comfortable on those chilly days in your unheated hotel room. That said, you don't need to bring anything extra except maybe a light weight windbreaker if you are the cold tolerant type.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2684629]The first time I went to Sao Paulo, it was during the winter months down there. Overall, what they call "cold" outside is nothing to me, but the temperature in my hotel was unacceptably cool with inadequate heat coming in through the ventilation, no matter how much I tried to adjust the temperature in my room. There were a number of problems with the place, Hotel Mercure on Lavandisca in Moema, that I never stayed there again and cannot recommend it.[/QUOTE]I actually quite like this hotel. I have stayed there many times with no problem.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2684629]The first time I went to Sao Paulo, it was during the winter months down there. Overall, what they call "cold" outside is nothing to me, but the temperature in my hotel was unacceptably cool with inadequate heat coming in through the ventilation, no matter how much I tried to adjust the temperature in my room.[/QUOTE]I concur. While I'm sleeping under a layer of blankets, I'm fine. During the day, I have to leave the drafty room or I won't want to leave the bed.
Dealing with North America winters, I'm fine outside with a handy light jacket if need be during the afternoon. There is just something about sitting around idle in a drafty hotel room. The Patagonia fleece pullover is good advice.
[QUOTE=AussieMonger22;2684672]Apologies if this has been asked before, but is it worthwhile mongering in Sao Paulo shortly before, during and after Carnaval? Does the talent dry up as people head away to party?[/QUOTE]I don't know, but I will let you know. I will be in SP in a couple of days.
Over the Easter weekend I have a couple of my favorite girls from previous trips already slated to come on over and keep me happy. After that I will see how things are going during Carnival the following week. I know Bomboa and Solarium are going to be open during carnival, so everything should be OK. I plan to check them both out. My experience in other places during a national holiday is that even if 30% of the girls are doing something else there are enough quality girls on hand to keep me happy until everyone comes back. But like I said, I have my favorites on standby if things get too problematic.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2684799]I don't know, but I will let you know. I will be in SP in a couple of days.
Over the Easter weekend I have a couple of my favorite girls from previous trips already slated to come on over and keep me happy. After that I will see how things are going during Carnival the following week. I know Bomboa and Solarium are going to be open during carnival, so everything should be OK. I plan to check them both out. My experience in other places during a national holiday is that even if 30% of the girls are doing something else there are enough quality girls on hand to keep me happy until everyone comes back. But like I said, I have my favorites on standby if things get too problematic.[/QUOTE]Thanks!
Thanks heaps!
[QUOTE=AussieMonger22;2684672]Apologies if this has been asked before, but is it worthwhile mongering in So Paulo shortly before, during and after Carnaval? Does the talent dry up as people head away to party?[/QUOTE]Carnival in 2022 will take place outside the usual dates, which is mid February to early March. Also looks like is running for more days than usual (April 20 to April 30), weather will be colder and most daily activities are running as usual. April 21 is an official holiday, which means that most working Brazilians will be off from Wednesday night to Sunday night. I would expect things getting back to normal on April 25. During normal Carnival (summer time), there is a lot of traveling and partying taking place, interesting to see how it will play out this year. But, I will expect that there will be plenty of partying in São Paulo and Rio.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2684680]Here is the May 2022 forecast for SP.
[URL]https://www.accuweather.com/en/br/s%C3%A3o-paulo/45881/may-weather/45881[/URL]
As you can see the weather varies. On a sunny day SP weather can be real nice with a high around 76 F and all you may need is a windbreaker or nothing at all. But on a cloudy, rainy night the lows can be near 53 F which is not bad by Chicago or Berlin fall standards, but it warrants a versatile 3 season jacket if you want to be totally unaffected by the chill. And like I said in my previous post, I also recommend bringing a Patagonia Fleece Pullover or warm wool sweater to be completely comfortable on those chilly days in your unheated hotel room. That said, you don't need to bring anything extra except maybe a light weight windbreaker if you are the cold tolerant type.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XXL;2684537]Well, here it is, average low of 54-56F in May. Can get cool at night. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2684758]Dealing with North America winters, I'm fine outside with a handy light jacket if need be during the afternoon...... The Patagonia fleece pullover is good advice.[/QUOTE]Thanks everyone, Good Info.
[QUOTE=AussieMonger22;2684672]Apologies if this has been asked before, but is it worthwhile mongering in So Paulo shortly before, during and after Carnaval? Does the talent dry up as people head away to party?[/QUOTE]Yes, Also if you have specific place (s) you want to visit, take the time to ensure they are open and hours of operation. You may need to go to FB / IG / Twitter / websites or email or call the establishments. Some places close and or have shorter operating hours (Holidays / Carnival / Major Event).
Thanks for that incredibly valuable post (and Part 2). I am going to SP for first time and have a few questions:
I'll be staying at DoubleTree Hilton for part of the stay and Pullman for the rest. I'm a Gringo. Based on research in this forum, my itinerary tentatively includes:
Clinicas:
Moema Prime.
Tangara.
Abbora.
57 Friends.
Clubs:
Scandallo.
Cafe Photo.
Bamboa.
Casarao.
Some questions:
0. Are there any other clubs / clinicas within walking distance of these hotels that I have failed to identify above?
1. Do free lancers work either of these hotels? If not, are there nearby hotels with free lancers that I could take back to either place?
2. Do the clubs / clinicas require you provide identification upon entry?
3. Do the clubs / clinicas have WIFI?
4. Will try to Uber as much as possible, but always like a contingent plan.
A. Is it safe for a Gringo to walk these areas alone after dark?
Be. Will the clubs / clinicas call a taxi for you if you ask?
5. Is it easy to find black girls? Asian girls?
6. Is the clinica scene only for happy endings (blow job, hand job) or is it anything goes (depending on the girl)?
7. Will the girls and clubs accept USD?
8. Is it easy to purchase prepaid debit cards in SP?
Appreciate the help.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2668967]I stopped doing trip reports after my first 3 visits to SP from last year, but my lat 3-4 trips since then have been better and better so I figure I should share some of the adventures, observations and tips after my 6+ trips to Brazil in the last 12 months.
Just be aware that this is coming from the perspective of someone who visit SP for only 4 to 7 days per trip and has limited Portuguese knowledge, so time is my most precious commodity. I am not looking to spend the majority of my limited time trying to find diamonds in the rough at bargain basement prices. I don't play the normal long game that some of the locals or long-term residents play.
My goal each trip is to shag the hottest girls possible that I have good chemistry or connection with. English skills are definitely a plus as I like to take a girl out to dinner, and having to use Google translate in that environment isn't enjoyable or optimal. I don't mind paying top end prices, but also look for "value" within said venue. If I can get most of the hotter girls for a pernoite at a particular boate for R1,000 to R1,500, I ain't going to be plunking down R3,000 to some hottie looking to hustle a gringo at that same spot!.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FredJonesJones;2685260]...Clinicas:
Moema Prime.
Tangara.
Abbora.
57 Friends.
...[/QUOTE]You can add Enjoy and Miruna to the list since they are all walking distance to each other. Remove Tangara because it's distance. You need to make a uber trip to Tangara. It is also a little rundown. Some don't like it. There are more black girls in Rio but you can find them in SP too
Clubs will record your ID.
[QUOTE=GigiBuffon;2684864]Carnival in 2022 will take place outside the usual dates, which is mid February to early March. Also looks like is running for more days than usual (April 20 to April 30), weather will be colder and most daily activities are running as usual. April 21 is an official holiday, which means that most working Brazilians will be off from Wednesday night to Sunday night. I would expect things getting back to normal on April 25. During normal Carnival (summer time), there is a lot of traveling and partying taking place, interesting to see how it will play out this year. But, I will expect that there will be plenty of partying in So Paulo and Rio.[/QUOTE]Oh nooooooo. I am there on the 19th to 25th. Is my trip going to suck due to the carnival and Scandolo going to be empty?
[QUOTE=FredJonesJones;2685260]I am going to SP for first time
Some questions:
Appreciate the help.[/QUOTE]In Moema, you can check out MOAH, Miruna, and enjoy which is in walking distance. Clinicas is Full service. WiFi? I think most of clinicas have WiFi for the girls. One guy told me that moema prime had the fastest WiFi he had in all of SP. Probably need to ask receptionist for password. I never offer USD and doubt the clinicas will take it. Girls you take from the clubs may accept it, but you have to ask them individually though I wouldn't count on it. Some black girls, few random Asians but most are white or Latino looking.
Moema and Jardins near the hotels are very safe. All the locals take the extensive metro / subway system.
[QUOTE=MRusa007;2685314]Oh nooooooo. I am there on the 19th to 25th. Is my trip going to suck due to the carnival and Scandolo going to be empty?[/QUOTE]I will be in town for that weekend and planned it a few months ago without realizing that carnival is at the same time. My hotel is fully booked and thankfully I have two girls booked for a weekend of BBFSCIP and anal porn star experience.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2685519]I will be in town for that weekend and planned it a few months ago without realizing that carnival is at the same time. My hotel is fully booked and thankfully I have two girls booked for a weekend of BBFSCIP and anal porn star experience.[/QUOTE]Who's the porn star you plan to butt fuck pray tell? Haha! Would love to look her up if I'm not familiar. Maybe fuck her in the ass my own self someday LOL!
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2685352]In Moema, you can check out MOAH, Miruna, and enjoy which is in walking distance. Clinicas is Full service. WiFi? I think most of clinicas have WiFi for the girls. One guy told me that moema prime had the fastest WiFi he had in all of SP. Probably need to ask receptionist for password. I never offer USD and doubt the clinicas will take it. Girls you take from the clubs may accept it, but you have to ask them individually though I wouldn't count on it. Some black girls, few random Asians but most are white or Latino looking.
Moema and Jardins near the hotels are very safe. All the locals take the extensive metro / subway system.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for the help. I couldn't find MOAH via Google search. Any tips?
Also, will the clubs such as Scandalla order a taxi for you when it's time to leave?
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2685519]I will be in town for that weekend and planned it a few months ago without realizing that carnival is at the same time. My hotel is fully booked and thankfully I have two girls booked for a weekend of BBFSCIP and anal porn star experience.[/QUOTE]That sounds like it will be a great adventure! I have not been able to secure two girls willing to do bare at the same time, and anal included! That's double the risk but also double the reward LOL. I would probably do it still haha. Nothing like securing yourself a girl that's agreed to do BBFSCIP on demand, and all night long. Safe travels and please share your report, specially of how the logistics go with two girls, example girl 1 takes it in the butt then switch to girl 2 in the butt or pussy? I would go crazy trying all different combinations and holes to finish in!
I don't think switching from butt to pussy will be possible as it isn't very hygienic for the girls and I doubt they would allow that. I know they are ok with me interchanging pussy to pussy. All three of us have gotten our STD exams taken care of before our meeting.
A bit of background Girl 1 (we will call her M) from Recife is someone I met back in Dec 2020 when I had three girls at the same time one night. We really clicked well so we kept in touch. In January of 2021, I bought her and a friend o hers for a twosome with BBFS and that was a flop. Her friend totally flaked and was a bust. She on the other hand was a total firecracker. She apologized and told me she would make up for it next time. We couldn't get together because Scandello opened back up and I wanted to go there instead on my next visits. Plus I was vary of her possible choices for a threesome. I have been talking to her about doing another threesome and she suggested that we can get together next time I am in Brazil and she will have someone. So as this trip came to being planned, I hit her up. She said sure but that she had just gotten back from England and was going to look for some. Fast forward to this week and she hasn't found anyone willing to work with our requirements. I haven't done anal with her and she hasn't been too keen on trying but maybe this time I might be able to try it with her.
I also was looking and found two girls willing in SP but they just weren't giving me the right vibe. These were my choices:
[URL]https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/agatha-muniz[/URL]
[URL]https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/bella-harper[/URL]
Both agreed to BBFSCIP and anal but I wasn't feeling it due to their communication thru WA. So I just let them go and kept looking. On Monday, this one popped up.
[URL]https://mclass.com/acompanhantes/3231/[/URL]
And I remembered her as a girl who I had set up a weekend with back in August 2021 but cancelled since I wanted to hit up Scandello as it had just fully reopened. I never saved her number and I remember we had agreed to BBFSCIP and anal for the weekend. So I messaged her and she remembered me and agreed to everything included CIM and swallow and I was like "wow. She is like a dream come true". She told me on Monday that she would get tested this week and have the results by next week before my arrival. I wanted to see if she would take care of this herself without me telling her to. Sure enough .. she texted me today with the bill from the GYN and the test appointment for tomorrow. She is super excited for the weekend. The girl from Recife likes her and both are bi and both have agreed to let me swap between them and they are going to enjoy each other as well.
Now that I have set up the weekend. Let's see how it goes. I plan to go in with zero expectations so in case it all goes to shit, I don't feel too disappointed.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2685596]I don't think switching from butt to pussy will be possible as it isn't very hygienic for the girls and I doubt they would allow that.[/QUOTE]I've only had that happen one time ever. It was in Brazil in Rio at Termas 65, and the girl requested it. She was one of my favorites, and I was anchored deep up in her ass, as usual. She wanted me to go straight from the booty hole to her pussy hole. I was surprised, but since she "offered", I went on ahead with it. She's happy, I'm happy LOL! Those are some shots of her in the pics. Later she asked about going to Buzios together. Ah the memories!
[QUOTE=FredJonesJones;2685574]Thanks very much for the help. I couldn't find MOAH via Google search. Any tips?
Also, will the clubs such as Scandalla order a taxi for you when it's time to leave?[/QUOTE]CLínica SPA Moah. Av. Moaci ,885 Moema Tel fixo 3727-2047 Zap 94164-3587.
[QUOTE=MRusa007;2685314]Oh nooooooo. I am there on the 19th to 25th. Is my trip going to suck due to the carnival and Scandolo going to be empty?[/QUOTE]I do not think so. Is party time, most people are in the mood to let things get wild, at least that have been my experience during Carnaval in Rio and São Paulo. Number of relationship breaking-up during Carnaval peak because things can get crazy for everyone. I am just unsure about the off-cycle thing, Brazilian can be a little peaky about weather. But, if you can get into a "camarote" (e. G. Like a private suite in USA Stadiums) you are guaranteed to have the time of your life, at least that has been my experience.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2685596]I don't think switching from butt to pussy will be possible as it isn't very hygienic for the girls and I doubt they would allow that. I know they are ok with me interchanging pussy to pussy. All three of us have gotten our STD exams taken care of before our meeting.
A bit of background Girl 1 (we will call her M) from Recife is someone I met back in Dec 2020 when I had three girls at the same time one night. We really clicked well so we kept in touch. In January of 2021, I bought her and a friend o hers for a twosome with BBFS and that was a flop. Her friend totally flaked and was a bust. She on the other hand was a total firecracker. She apologized and told me she would make up for it next time. We couldn't get together because Scandello opened back up and I wanted to go there instead on my next visits. Plus I was vary of her possible choices for a threesome. I have been talking to her about doing another threesome and she suggested that we can get together next time I am in Brazil and she will have someone. So as this trip came to being planned, I hit her up. She said sure but that she had just gotten back from England and was going to look for some. Fast forward to this week and she hasn't found anyone willing to work with our requirements. I haven't done anal with her and she hasn't been too keen on trying but maybe this time I might be able to try it with her.
I also was looking and found two girls willing in SP but they just weren't giving me the right vibe. These were my choices:
[URL]https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/agatha-muniz[/URL]
[URL]https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/bella-harper[/URL]
Both agreed to BBFSCIP and anal but I wasn't feeling it due to their communication thru WA. So I just let them go and kept looking. On Monday, this one popped up.
[URL]https://mclass.com/acompanhantes/3231/[/URL]
Now that I have set up the weekend. Let's see how it goes. I plan to go in with zero expectations so in case it all goes to shit, I don't feel too disappointed.[/QUOTE]You've done some good recon, I would've passed on those two as well. Photos seem modified to improve their appearance for sure. I have not negotiated BBFSCIP over text in SP, only in person. I think it's an extra risk, not about diseases necessarily but the quality of the girl might be inferior. You have already done some prior vetting so the plan seems sound, my only worry would be if another monger comes in during carnival and scoops them up, hopefully not.
Although it might sound like it's not hygienic, in the heat of the moment with two girls and all 3 holes open for both, so 6 holes and maybe a few drinks in who will keep count? LOL. Bare anal to bare pussy would be something else though, please try to keep track of the action and report haha!
Girl 2 looks solid BTW, redheads are sexy!
Is it normal to make a deposit when scheduling with some of these Twitter escorts? I've also had some say I need to buy videos first before I can schedule anything.
[QUOTE=Evx69;2685781]Is it normal to make a deposit when scheduling with some of these Twitter escorts? I've also had some say I need to buy videos first before I can schedule anything.[/QUOTE]If you are new to this, don't do it. There are plenty that do not require deposit. Wait until you are familiar with how things work. Don't buy videos or pictures in order to get something else. It rarely works out.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2685868]If you are new to this, don't do it. There are plenty that do not require deposit. Wait until you are familiar with how things work. Don't buy videos or pictures in order to get something else. It rarely works out.[/QUOTE]Yeah That's even a bit kind. ID go with never ever ever give a girl you don't know any money for anything. They may even not be a girl! And that's the last you will hear from them. Always always only money in person to a girl you have physically had sex with!
[QUOTE=FredJonesJones;2685574]Thanks very much for the help. I couldn't find MOAH via Google search. Any tips?
Also, will the clubs such as Scandalla order a taxi for you when it's time to leave?[/QUOTE]Wills the clubs and Clinicas order a taxi for you when it's time to leave? Trying to stay off the grid.
[QUOTE=FredJonesJones;2685910]Wills the clubs and Clinicas order a taxi for you when it's time to leave? Trying to stay off the grid.[/QUOTE]The big clubs will have taxis waiting outside. I don't know about clinicas since I don't visit them but I am sure they will order you one if you need it.
[QUOTE=Evx69;2685781]Is it normal to make a deposit when scheduling with some of these Twitter escorts? I've also had some say I need to buy videos first before I can schedule anything.[/QUOTE]Forget it! Even if you were prepared to make the deposit, you will need to do so through some local payment system that may not even be available if you don't have a CPF (tax number). Unless you are foolish enough to send your credit card!
It has been two years since I had a clinica order a taxi for me but I had several do it then. I would just ask them to order it for me and they would let me know when it was out front. You could ask them when you first arrive to verify? I have also walked from the DoubleTree Hilton in Itaim to the Tangara clinic. Was a hike but doable.
[QUOTE=FredJonesJones;2685910]Wills the clubs and Clinicas order a taxi for you when it's time to leave? Trying to stay off the grid.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XXL;2686000]Forget it! Even if you were prepared to make the deposit, you will need to do so through some local payment system that may not even be available if you don't have a CPF (tax number). Unless you are foolish enough to send your credit card![/QUOTE]I heard that some girls have Paypal now for the foreigners who don't have Pix. Just say no.
[QUOTE=Evx69;2685781]Is it normal to make a deposit when scheduling with some of these Twitter escorts? I've also had some say I need to buy videos first before I can schedule anything.[/QUOTE]It really depends on the girl and how bad you want her. If she is active on twitter with a good number of followers with positive remarks or somewhat famous in her trade, then I would take the risk. Plus I got to really want her. If she is a nobody, doesn't have positive reports, not active on twitter. No followers. I would say its risky. For example, Luiza marcato. She has a lot of followers, very active, does a lot of videos, has onlyfans, posts on private but she does ask for a deposit. These girls got guys lined up waiting so deposit ensures her you are the real deal.
I was a little tired after my overnight flight from MIA, but wild horses could not stop from going to a boate my first night back in town. In addition, it was a drizzly Thursday night before Good Friday and I knew all the clubs would be closed for Easter holiday weekend. In any case I arrived at Bomboa around 8:30 pm. I was not expecting a wild scene, ha ha, and I was not too far off with my prediction. Things were kind of quiet. There was a live band, however, and I would estimate that the number of girls present was around 30% of normal, but I immediately spotted 2 fairly, decent looking, late 20's brancas and they spotted me of course.
I invited one over and she was very friendly, if you know what I mean, so after some kissing & touching, and a little nonsense about money; she originally asked for 800 br and tried to tell me she was talking br, not dollars, KKK, I offered her 500, and she accepted 500. But I can't knock a girl for trying. I must have looked to her like a newbie just off the plane.
Anyway, it was all love and kisses as soon we got into the room. She knelt down and blew me while I stood in front of her, and I knew I was back in Brazil. Ha Ha. After we stripped, she blew me again on the bed. Then we lay together making out. She spat on my finger and shoved it up her pussy (always a nice touch) and we continued to make out. She said she liked my Sagami 0.02, but did not know how to open it.
Boom boom was nice. We did it in covered cowgirl, then 4 feet (doggie), and then mish with a lot of kissing in mish. I came and thought that was that, but she asked if I wanted a massage and I said OK. She whipped out some oil and rubbed it on my back. The massage was soft and I being tired from my flight just relaxed and unwound.
But when I rolled over, she laid down next to me and we began kissing again. Then she took my hand and rubbed it on her clit. I got the idea and took over. After a while I inserted my finger again while we passionately made out. I got hard and started to kiss her breasts. I thought about it a second or two and then I made my way down to her vagina. I licked her clit. She smelled really good, so I went all the way downtown on her. She was loving it and drenched my face in her vaginal fluids. I moved up her body and our lips and tongues met again. I was about to bareback her, but she asked for a condom at the last moment and so being the gentleman that I am, I suited up and we were off to a 2nd boom boom in which she encouraged me to pound her good.
So long story short is that it was a rainy pre-holiday night, not a big crowd at Bomboa, but there were a few attractive girls on hand. I picked up a nice, friendly blond and she showed me a GFE good time. It was a very friendly, Brazilin welcome back to SP. Tonight, I have my wild indigenous girl that I met last trip in Scandallo coming over for a reunion. This girl is unbelievable in bed and I love her!
Spent 6 weeks in Brazil Feb-March mostly in SP but for the first time visited Rio as well during the first week of March. So about time I mentioned about this trip especially as I'm just back here for a week in SP again haha.
SP.
This time there was the good (in fact very good) then the bad and then the ugly haha.
Scandello was smooth sailing mostly except for a couple of hiccups that I could have lived without. The bad was I got quoted high prices like 3000, one even said 4 K haha. The ugly experience was to do with an attractive redhead from Puerto Allegra! We had agreed oral no condom and 1200 pernoite. Well she changed her tune on both these aspects in the hotel room! This pissed me off so I told her to leave. She called her some really stupid scandallo manager who started insisting that I pay her but I just ignored that stupid guy and to bring a long story short ultimately hotel security got involved and finally I just paid up and got rid of her! Her name is Angel / Angelika and your mileage may vary of course but just a heads up.
Apart from this it was good fun again! Found new ones in Scandallo, Cafe Foto, Bamboa and Bahamas with repeats from my contacts from last trip. Mostly in their 20's blondes, redheads, brunettes and morenas etc. Prices ranged from 1200 to 2500. However quotations ranged from 2000-4000 hahaha.
This time I also visited the clinicas but just two: prime and 57 house both in Moema. All great experiences on par if not better than the boates as far as just raw sex is concerned.
Rio was just a fantastic overall experience although the girl selection is way better in SP I think (albeit more expensive in SP though).
Stayed on copacobana and it felt safe with so much police around. Went to mabs, vita dulce, mosaico. Picked up a few on different nights from vita dulce. One of them I repeated and spent the day and couple of evenings with me. She was in her 30's and more native looking but a total blast to be with! Drinking with her till 1 am in one of those copacobana beach kiosks with concurrently smoking MJ on the beach sand dancing to the music and then heading back to the hotel for sex! Different experienced and amazing night!
Pulled my usual routine on the last day. Flight was at 9:30 and I found this Branco beauty at Scandallo late afternoon and came back to the hotel 7 pm after an in-house session there. She was so hot in bed as well only downside was the silicon boobs. So nice memories on my final day last trip.
All set. Ready to fly tomorrow.
Staying at the Renaissance.
1. how is the action in the lobby? And what is the cost to take them upstairs.
2. booked double beds and it allowed max 3 guests and I have booked it. I have organized a 3 some from seeking. Will it be an issue to take 2 of them?
3. does the hotel generally ask the girls to register?
4. where are the Cambio's near by to this hotel? I saw 2 of them on google and both of them are 20 minutes by walk.
5. is Scandallo asking for 2000? Really. (below post). I have usually paid 500. Is it going to ruin?
6. Bamboa and Cafe Foto, Bahamas. Do they have a room upstairs are we have to take the girl to the hotel again?
7. are there action places around the renaissance. I used to stay at the Sheraton / WTC before. It was a short ride to Tangara etc.
8. also booked 6 of them from 3 pm to next day brunch time on Sunday at a motel. Fingers crossed.
Is anyone staying at this hotel from 20th to 25th? We can grab a drink?
Help on the questions will help. Not too new to SP as well as not too much of an expert. (thanks to all the wonderful contributors.).
Staying at the Renaissance.
1. how is the action in the lobby? And what is the cost to take them upstairs.
Good on weekends, never took because it's a risk since they can do whatever and leave, at least the boite girls have some quality control.
2. booked double beds and it allowed max 3 guests and I have booked it. I have organized a 3 some from seeking. Will it be an issue to take 2 of them?
No they don't check anymore.
3. does the hotel generally ask the girls to register?
You can for your own safety.
4. where are the Cambio's near by to this hotel? I saw 2 of them on google and both of them are 20 minutes by walk.
Go to ATM on av Paulista.
5. is Scandallo asking for 2000? Really. (below post). I have usually paid 500. Is it going to ruin?
Don't pay gringo price, 90% will go for 1500 to go out. 500-700/ HR.
6. Bamboa and Cafe Foto, Bahamas. Do they have a room upstairs are we have to take the girl to the hotel again?
Bomba yes foto no.
7. are there action places around the renaissance. I used to stay at the Sheraton / WTC before. It was a short ride to Tangara etc.
Caserao.
8. also booked 6 of them from 3 pm to next day brunch time on Sunday at a motel. Fingers crossed.
Ok?
Is anyone staying at this hotel from 20th to 25th? We can grab a drink?
I'll be there end of the month but have 3 bombshells lined up already.
Help on the questions will help. Not too new to SP as well as not too much of an expert. (thanks to all the wonderful contributors.
Does anyone of Airbnb's or hotels that don't require you to sign your guest in? Anytime I visited a girl last time I had to sign in, so is that just a rule throughout the city?
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2687465]Staying at the Renaissance.
1. how is the action in the lobby? And what is the cost to take them upstairs.
Good on weekends, never took because it's a risk since they can do whatever and leave, at least the boite girls have some quality control.
[/QUOTE]Hello Hobbying, remember me? We met at Scandallo. Do you mean you don't trust girls picked up at the hotel lobby? You mean they could for example kick in your in-room safe and leave with your money and credit cards? I'm very safety conscious in Brazil. Safety is the limiting factor in a country like Brazil.
P.S. I Read that in-room safe open themselves if hit hard. It is a well-know fact in Thailand (although in Thailand the risk is minimal due to the prevailing anti-crime culture). I'll be in SP between mid May and end of June. Let's meet at Scandallo again one afternoon.
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2687465]4. where are the Cambio's near by to this hotel? I saw 2 of them on google and both of them are 20 minutes by walk..[/QUOTE]I've visited a hand full cambio's in Sao Paulo and felt the vast majority of them offer really crappy exchange rates. My go to spot is in the shopping mall across the street from the ibirapeura bourbon hotel in Moema. There is a money changer on the third or fourth floor that offers decent exchange rates. Changing money in Sao Paulo is not difficult but finding a fair exchange rate is a total hassle. Ymmv.
The Ren lobby girls are in the same range as Scandello for pernoite. IME, the hotel tries to be strict about registering them. While it's possible to quickly blow by the desk on the way to the elevator, I've had clerks chase me down and ask to register the girl. I'm generally in favor of going with the flow and registering the girl. As far as safety goes, they're as safe as any other GDP you would bring to the room, if not safer because they probably want to continue working the bar. I have no doubt that if a girl starts to get complaints, she won't be allowed to work the bar.
Carry a concealed gun and a GoPro on a lanyard around your neck and a Velcro patch for Rio civil police, policia civil.
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2687465]Staying at the Renaissance.
1. how is the action in the lobby? And what is the cost to take them upstairs.
Good on weekends, never took because it's a risk since they can do whatever and leave, at least the boite girls have some quality control.
2. booked double beds and it allowed max 3 guests and I have booked it. I have organized a 3 some from seeking. Will it be an issue to take 2 of them?
No they don't check anymore.
3. does the hotel generally ask the girls to register?
You can for your own safety.
4. where are the Cambio's near by to this hotel? I saw 2 of them on google and both of them are 20 minutes by walk.
Go to ATM on av Paulista..[/QUOTE]
Reunion Weekend Part 1: Friday & Saturday Night.
My trip is starting out better than I imagined. I already posted about the attractive blond girl I met at Bomboa Thursday night. This is what followed the next 2 nights.
Good Friday rolled around and Michelle my wild Indigenous Scandallo girl came over. We drank wine, smoked a little weed, and had sex in multiple, multiple positions all over the hotel suite, on the sofa, standing up against the wall, on the desk, on a chair, on pillows that she threw on the carpet, and yes even on the bed. What a gal! What amazing sex drive. She was insatiable. I tried to hold my own and think I did a pretty good job of it. KKK. Afterwards we went to Margherita Pizzeria for dinner. The place was packed, but they found us a great table by the windows.
Saturday night Vanessa, a full figured, very attractive, Italian blond girl that I met in Bomboa last trip was supposed to come over. But something came up (party party), and she asked if minded if she could come over on Sunday night instead. I said OK, no problem. So, I immediately texted Paola my slender, dark haired, Italian Brazilian spinner that I met in Scandallo last trip and asked her if we might move our date up from Sunday to Saturday night. She said it was fine with her, but that she was planning to go to Scandallo and would I mind meeting her there. I had thought Scandallo was closed on this Saturday, but she was right.
So it sounded like a good idea because I was anxious to go back to Scandallo anyway, and we agreed to meet there at around 8 pm. I showed up at 8:30 and the place was only at around 30% capacity. All the bars were open, so I walked thru the large entertainment bar and into the courtyard bar. There were maybe 30 to 40 girls present in the whole place. I sat down at the courtyard bar and ordered a vodka on the rocks. Seconds later Paola walked into the courtyard wearing a sexy very light dress. She walked up to me at the bar with a big smile and we kissed. She was lovely. I offered her a drink, but all she wanted was a bottle of water. It was chilly out and I could see she was shivering, so we moved inside to a dark corner of the atrium where it was warm, and we had some privacy. We kissed and touched each other all over and I remembered just how sweet and tender she is. I finished my drink, and we went upstairs.
It was a GFE reunion in the room. We kissed and held each other close for like 20 minutes. Then slowly we started to disrobe. We fooled around in the shower and dried each other off. Back by the bed Paola knelt and blew me while I stood and then we moved onto the bed and more kissing while she held my dick in her small hand. She went downtown on me again and then I went downtown on her. Her pussy tasted very fresh and good. I took my time on her and she became very wet and started moaning softly. She clamped her thighs around my head and came.
I moved up between her legs and almost scored a goal, but at the last second, she asked for a condom. She laughed when I gave her one of me Sagami's remembering our history. She put it on with her mouth and we got down to business in sitting up cowgirl. After a while I pulled her down close, so she was laying on me and we kissed as we shagged. Then I flipped her over onto her back without falling out of her pussy and we proceeded in mish.
I don't know about the time, but 40 minutes must have elapsed and I thought the only way I was going to cum was if I hammered her hard which I was not into doing. So, I pulled out and we laid side by side. She felt my dick and knew I had not cum. We kissed and held each other close as she continued to hold my dick in her small hand. I don't quite get the magic holding my dick in her little hand, but I got super hard again, and she got back on top. This time I held her real tight and could feel her pussy at the far end of my dick. Soon thereafter I came.
We took our time recovering and we even took a few selfies of each other in post coital embrace. Then we showered and dressed. I had a wonderful time with her. She is such an adorable girl. I am sure I will see her many times before I leave SP. She is just my type of girl. We kissed goodbye in the stairwell and then she went to the lady's locker room, and I went back up to the bars. I did not see her again later, so I think she went home.
It was now around 11 pm and the place was still less than half filled with girls and customers. I did not mind. It gave me more room to scout out some girls for future trysts. There were only 40 girls more or less present, but still quite a few lookers and every girl there was really friendly. I sat in the entertainment bar and ordered another vodka. A couple of good-looking girls came over to see what was up, but I was not yet ready for another round so, I told the girls another time.
It felt great to back in Scandallo even on a low-keyed holiday night like this. I imagine it might be this way until Carnival ends, but that don't faze me one bit because there were still plenty of quality girls to choose from. I went to Bomboa yesterday night (Monday) and it two was at 30%, but I found a great one and afterward spotted another that I think I will get around to eventually. So the holidays are actually a buyers market.
I think I will end this post here. The Paola chapter ran a little longer than I anticipated. I guess I am really fond of that little girl. Anyway, I will post on Easter Sunday night with Vanessa, and Monday night back at Bomboa with Thais and tonight's adventure with Yumi. The good times keep on rolling. It is great to be back in SP.
[QUOTE=OJeito;2687579]I've visited a hand full cambio's in Sao Paulo and felt the vast majority of them offer really crappy exchange rates. My go to spot is in the shopping mall across the street from the ibirapeura bourbon hotel in Moema. There is a money changer on the third or fourth floor that offers decent exchange rates. Changing money in Sao Paulo is not difficult but finding a fair exchange rate is a total hassle. Ymmv.[/QUOTE]I presume you are speaking of the Shopping Ibirapuera mall. I have found the currency exchange there generally has better rates than the Jardim Paulista area where many visitors stay.
[QUOTE=XXL;2687537]Hello Hobbying, remember me? We met at Scandallo. Do you mean you don't trust girls picked up at the hotel lobby? You mean they could for example kick in your in-room safe and leave with your money and credit cards? I'm very safety conscious in Brazil. Safety is the limiting factor in a country like Brazil.
P.S. I Read that in-room safe open themselves if hit hard. It is a well-know fact in Thailand (although in Thailand the risk is minimal due to the prevailing anti-crime culture). I'll be in SP between mid May and end of June. Let's meet at Scandallo again one afternoon.[/QUOTE]The girl can do whatever or do nothing and leave like any street walker. Not about getting robbed but getting ripped off.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2687710]Carry a concealed gun and a GoPro on a lanyard around your neck and a Velcro patch for Rio civil police, policia civil.[/QUOTE]Funny guy.
[QUOTE=CatBert55;2687697]The Ren lobby girls are in the same range as Scandello for pernoite. IME, the hotel tries to be strict about registering them. While it's possible to quickly blow by the desk on the way to the elevator, I've had clerks chase me down and ask to register the girl. I'm generally in favor of going with the flow and registering the girl. As far as safety goes, they're as safe as any other GDP you would bring to the room, if not safer because they probably want to continue working the bar. I have no doubt that if a girl starts to get complaints, she won't be allowed to work the bar.[/QUOTE]Lets be real, hotel guest will go to the front desk and say I met the hooker at the bar and she ripped me off?
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2687801]Lets be real, hotel guest will go to the front desk and say I met the hooker at the bar and she ripped me off?[/QUOTE]I would, without hesitation, if she was registered to my room. Prostitution is legal in Brazil. First, I would word it a bit more diplomatically. Second, desk clerks have seen it all and they're trained, especially at a higher end hotel like the Ren, to also be discreet about the situation.
No honking. It's so weird to be in a third world country with all the people driving on the roads and nobody honking at each other. There must be some type of law. Anyways I can appreciate it.
The people here have a very European look. It reminds me a lot of Buenos Aires. People that I think are American, are definitely not American.
Women here have amazing skin. Definitely different than the dirty Dominicans and the skanky Colombians. They actually take care of themselves. It's nice.
The women here will drink. All of my dates have been moderate to heavy drinkers. So different than the Dominican republic.
The women love ass play. Whether it's your ass or their ass. It's all on the table.
Tinder is definitely not for prostitution here. It's really weird. It actually takes work. And chicks are looking for nice normal dates.
The seeking women love to spend the night. All have or have wanted to with me. Not sure why. Maybe they think they can make some extra money. But it seems to be the standard.
The Brazilian pussies are nice and wet all the time. And they are very well defined. Think nice healthy pussy lips and not a small coin slot.
Ifood is the popular food delivery app but you have to have a Brazilian phone number and ID to register. I never figured it out. My buddy did by using a chicas CPF / ID number.
Women will say they live in Sao Paolo and they live two, four, six hours away. Probably best to make that clear when using apps / seeking.
And if you don't understand Spanish, you sure as hell will not understand Portuguese. Nothing is in English or Spanish. It's Portuguese or Portuguese.
Expect slow ass service everywhere you go.
Condom use is a mixed bag. Definitely not as free as the DR or Colombia.
Food is very good. No stomach problems for the 16 days.
Lushroom clinica was a good experience. 360 K for the room. 200 K for sex. Nice set up. Clean, organized, some English speaking girls. You view them on an ipad.
Ubers and cancelling is a damn joke. Why?
Banana cafe. High end talent. Great place to sit and just enjoy the scenery with drinks. Its in Itaim Bibi.
Scandallo. We went 3 times. Girls want 1500 or 1000 but I had one go down to 500. Rooms were clean. Drinks were crazy expensive. Best nights are Tue-Wed-Thur. Noticeable difference.
Foto cafe. Went once. Super slow. Not much energy.
Lotus club. Tried to go but it was too early. Door man was a clown.
Bahamas Hotel Club. On the bucket list. Heard its like another Scandallo and that its the only club open on Sundays.
Off to Rio!
Cheers.
Taco.
[QUOTE=OJeito;2687579]I've visited a hand full cambio's in Sao Paulo and felt the vast majority of them offer really crappy exchange rates. My go to spot is in the shopping mall across the street from the ibirapeura bourbon hotel in Moema. There is a money changer on the third or fourth floor that offers decent exchange rates. Changing money in Sao Paulo is not difficult but finding a fair exchange rate is a total hassle. Ymmv.[/QUOTE]I would recommend using ATM. Get either Charles Schwab or cap1 360. There is no foreign transaction fee. They don't charge a fee for using international ATM. Charles Schwab will reimburse the fee the ATM charges. And banks usually have the best exchange rate.
Landed in SP and checked into the Renaissance. It is packed. Like 95% booked with people everywhere. Glad to see them coming back after the whole COVID crisis.
The girl from Recife shows up but she is dead tired and wants to take a nap for a few hours. So, I leave her and go run some errands. The other girl finally sends her test results and she agrees to be at the hotel by 6/630 pm. Everything is set. Or so I thought.
It is now 630 and we get ready for dinner. The other girl still hasn't texted about her arrival. So, I am like fuck it. Let go on. She finally texts around 715 pm saying she fell asleep and is now getting ready to come over but is going to be late. So I cancel the dinner reservation and instead choose margarita pizzeria. Third girl finally shows up around 815 pm and I take one look at her and my gut knows this is going to a shit show. But thinking. Let's give it a chance.
Some background. The girl from Recife is a girls girl. Well manicured and dressed and prefers her girls the same way. This one is the exact opposite. She looks uncomfortable in her own skin. A bit awkward. She doesn't know how to carry herself. There is a one year difference between them.
We go to dinner and they are getting to know each other and I am paying attention to the chemistry which there doesn't seem to be any and I know that this isn't going to work. The third girl goes to the bathroom a few times and then we decide to go a bar called Tulum. At the bar, The girl from Recife tells me that she thinks the other girl is on coke and isn't comfortable with her. She told me to see her nose after she comes as she saw a bunch of white around her nose. So, I wait for her to come back from the bathroom and sure enough she does. So I tell Recife that to deal with her in the nicest way possible.
They both go to the bathroom and the other girl has agreed with our decision to not involve her. But her bag and stuff is in my room and I don't want her taking an Uber to get her bag out of the room and leave on her own. So we stay for a few more hours just drinking and checking out the scene. Leave around 1 am. Get to the hotel and she grabs her stuff and leaves after I pay her for her time. 500 plus 200 for the test. Could I have paid her nothing. Yes but Recife prefers that we pay her for her time and send her without any bad feelings. Karma and shit like that.
One positive thing. This is the first time Recife I have had sex together by ourselves. The first time we met, there were three girls and me. The second time was her and a friend who just sat next to us in bed and was on her phone while we fucked. This time it was just us. And what an awesome experience. She was totally involved and came at least three times while I ate her out. I lasted a good 15 minutes fucking her and she came a few more times. A lot of kissing and I finally CIP and we lay together. It was probably one of the best fucks I have had in Brazil.
She says she is going to find a girl at the bar we go to tonight but I don't know if I am into that right now. If we keep having sex like this, I don't need a distraction 😜.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2688867]Landed in SP and checked into the Renaissance. It is packed. Like 95% booked with people everywhere. Glad to see them coming back after the whole COVID crisis.
The girl from Recife shows up but she is dead tired and wants to take a nap for a few hours. So, I leave her and go run some errands. The other girl finally sends her test results and she agrees to be at the hotel by 6/630 pm. Everything is set. Or so I thought.
It is now 630 and we get ready for dinner. The other girl still hasn't texted about her arrival. So, I am like fuck it. Let go on. She finally texts around 715 pm saying she fell asleep and is now getting ready to come over but is going to be late. So I cancel the dinner reservation and instead choose margarita pizzeria. Third girl finally shows up around 815 pm and I take one look at her and my gut knows this is going to a shit show. But thinking. Let's give it a chance.
Some background. The girl from Recife is a girls girl. Well manicured and dressed and prefers her girls the same way. This one is the exact opposite. She looks uncomfortable in her own skin. A bit awkward. She doesn't know how to carry herself. There is a one year difference between them.
We go to dinner and they are getting to know each other and I am paying attention to the chemistry which there doesn't seem to be any and I know that this isn't going to work. The third girl goes to the bathroom a few times and then we decide to go a bar called Tulum. At the bar, The girl from Recife tells me that she thinks the other girl is on coke and isn't comfortable with her. She told me to see her nose after she comes as she saw a bunch of white around her nose. So, I wait for her to come back from the bathroom and sure enough she does. So I tell Recife that to deal with her in the nicest way possible.
They both go to the bathroom and the other girl has agreed with our decision to not involve her. But her bag and stuff is in my room and I don't want her taking an Uber to get her bag out of the room and leave on her own. So we stay for a few more hours just drinking and checking out the scene. Leave around 1 am. Get to the hotel and she grabs her stuff and leaves after I pay her for her time. 500 plus 200 for the test. Could I have paid her nothing. Yes but Recife prefers that we pay her for her time and send her without any bad feelings. Karma and shit like that.
One positive thing. This is the first time Recife I have had sex together by ourselves. The first time we met, there were three girls and me. The second time was her and a friend who just sat next to us in bed and was on her phone while we fucked. This time it was just us. And what an awesome experience. She was totally involved and came at least three times while I ate her out. I lasted a good 15 minutes fucking her and she came a few more times. A lot of kissing and I finally CIP and we lay together. It was probably one of the best fucks I have had in Brazil.
She says she is going to find a girl at the bar we go to tonight but I don't know if I am into that right now. If we keep having sex like this, I don't need a distraction 😜.[/QUOTE]Nice update! I'm glad to hear the Renaissance is still the place to stay.
That's a good call on sending the other girl away, sometimes we get emotionally attached to paying in exchange for services only, but got to keep in mind that what counts is the experience, good or bad, so if you can control the outcome let it be good!
I hope you can find another candidate, still curious to know if the butt to kitty experiment will go down LOL. And enjoy your CIP experiences, for some reason I've been stuck on wanting to do this with girls I see, is it a fetish? I don't know, but finishing in the bag or even outside seems so unappealing to me right now.
Just a quick update on the boates during easter / carnival weeks.
Did go out every day this week so far. Cafe Photo on Wednesday was a bit slower than usual. Still, the new place is not as busy compared to the old one pre-covid, also lacks quality sometimes.
Scandallo business as usual. Could not see any difference to normal times. Quite a few girls talking about traveling on the weekend though. Will go again tonight. Sometimes slower nights are even better as ratios are more in our favor. Regarding prices, while 1000 BRL was the standard going rate for take-out, it now requires a bit of negotiating. Girls starting at 1500 or some even asking for crazy 2-3 k.
Guys,
So much has been happening since I arrived in SP last Thursday. All great, but too much for me to post. I am getting bogged down on my reportage.
To sum up, however, I spent Easter weekend catching up with 3 favorites from my previous trips. I also met a few new sexy blond friends in Scandallo and Bomboa. The sex was fantastic as always down here.
Monday night I met a blond in Bomboa, Thais, and had a real good time with her that ended with CIM.
But Tuesday night was stupendous! I already know it is going to be in my top 5 nights of 2022. The evening started on a low point when Paula, my Sexy Revista cover girl, kept me waiting for over 90 minutes. It is not as bad as it sounds because I had nothing else to do at the time, but when 8:30 rolled around and Paula was still not in an Uber and heading over I pulled the plug on her and ordered up an Uber to take me to Scandallo. I texted Paula while in the Uber. She seemed genuinely surprised that I had cancelled on her and she apologized for her delay. I wasn't mad. I just told her I was sorry we could not get together, and we could talk about it tomorrow.
So, I arrived at Scandallo a little before 9 pm and the place had around 25% the normal number of girls. No big deal because there were still plenty pf lookers around. In a weird way the holiday situation is a buyers' market because there are so few men on hand.
Anyway, I was walking thru the big entertainment bar when I ran into Sheila, one of my favorite favorite girls from my last trip. We had lost touch in February. So, I was happy to run into her unexpected like. And she was happy to see me too. So, we kissed and marveled at running into each other and she explained that she had lost her phone which is how our connection had been broken.
Sheila and I then walked hand in hand to the courtyard bar and found a table in the back. I ordered our favorite; a bottle of red wine and we are two happy campers hugging, touching, and kissing. But then Sheila introduces me to her BFF. I forgot her name, so I will just call her new girl. Anyway, new girl is a hot spinner, brown hair, pale white skin, small, but lovely breasts. I was attracted to her. The wine comes and I get another glass for new girl.
So, we drink, we laugh, I make out with Sheila and then Sheila tells new girl I have a large dick. New girl starts to massage my groin and I am instantly hard. Then both girls are massaging my dick and commenting on it's ampleness. It was all pretty silly, but I was having a good time.
New girl gets up to go to the powder room and when she leaves, Sheila asks if I like her and I say I do. Then Sheila suggests I take both of them upstairs. I tell Sheila that it is a tempting offer, but I don't want anything to change OUR relationship. But Sheila assures me OUR relationship is rock solid and that next time she wants to come to my hotel and spend the night. So, I say how much? And Sheila says just 500 & 500 like it is nothing although it is an honest Scandallo price. Anyway, to make the final sale she repeats that new girl is her very best friend and she says I will have a great time with the two of them. OK. So new girl comes back to our table and Sheila tells her the good news and the girls give me a 3 way French kiss and both are messing around with my junk down below to seal the deal.
We finish the wine and hand in hand the 3 of us get a room. In the room we drink a little more, smoke a little something, and then get down to some real bisexual action.
So many wonderful, funny, sexy, great things happened in the next 90 minutes. I can't get it all down on paper although I will try later. It was just one of my best menage a trois nights ever!
Two highlights that stand out and that will give you guys an idea of what the fuck I am talking about: The first highlight is in sort of the beginning with the girls simultaneously blowing me and French kissing each other. It was superb. The second great highlight occurred later on when Sheila was on her back with her legs wide open and new girl and I were in between Sheila's legs simultaneously licking Sheila's pussy and making out. It went like this: I would go all the way in with my tongue, come out, French kiss new girl, and then new girl would go all the way down on Sheila and then we kept repeating this cycle for I don't know how long. It was fanfuckingtastic! And of course, Sheila as off in another world enjoying what new girl and I were doing to her.
All in all, it was a very memorable 90 minutes. We went through 5 condoms, but I hardly noticed the changes because one of the girls always kept me occupied while the other took care of the condom situation. Anyway, the night ranks as one of my favorite 3 ways of all time.
But onward and upward. This was only my 5th night in town. I have until the end of May for more naughty entertainment. Sky is the limit. I have said it before, and I will say it again now: Brazilian girls are among the best girls in the world in bed! And they look pretty damn sexy out of bed.
Last night (Thursday night) was a slow night at Scandallo. They did not open the large entertainment bar and outside patio bar until 10. Nonetheless there were a handful of beauties, I mean real nice looking girls hanging about. One slender, elegant stunner really caught my eye, but she was eating some ice cream at the small desert bar outside of the restaurant bar and I thought I would let her finish her snack before approaching.
But we were never to meet, at least not this night, because as soon as management opened up the patio bar, I bumped into Manni, my wild indigenous girl. Even though I had just seen her 6 nights ago, I could not resist her smile and her charms.
We had drinks and fooled around a little in the middle of the courtyard. She discretely rubbed my dick in front of everyone without their noticing. Up in the room we smoked a little and I ordered more drinks. Then it was non-stop sex for 90 minutes or longer. I don't know what it is about this girl, but she really knows how to turn me on. We fucked all over the bed and standing up too. I shagged every hole she has and she made me cum 3 times! She came twice.
Afterwards we went down to the dining room and had dinner. Then it was time to say goodnight, but not before we made plans to hook up again at my hotel on Sunday. She went back to her business and I looked around the place for future possibilities. Back in the courtyard bar I ran into new girl, Sheila's BFF and I bought her a beer and a vodka on the rocks for me. We talked, she looked good, but I was not ready for another session just yet. Ha Ha.
I roamed around a little more after saying goodbye to new girl and I did not see the stunner from earlier in the night who had been eating ice cream. Oh well. Maybe I will run into her on another night.
I ubered back to the Renaissance hotel. It was around 1 am when I got there. I went outside to where they have benches in a garden like setting to smoke a Cohiba. Already sitting on a bench was this branca stunner! She looked amazing. So good, in fact, that I was not sure if she was a hooker or hotel guest. So I was the perfect gentleman. Her lighter was not working so I gave her mine. She lit up her fag and then I lit up my Cohiba. Then we started talking. She spoke university quality English and seemed vey intelligent. No shit!
OK, after discussing what I was doing in SP (business trip ha ha) and her favorite literature and that she is writing her autobiography, she got around to what she was doing at the Renaissance at 1 am. Now I have stayed at the SP Renaissance 3 times now and I am very familiar with the quality of the hotel's FL hookers that are allowed to do business in the lobby bar. I like them and have chatted with a couple late at night like tonight. But they have all been sub Scandallo quality and I have never seen one with Marina's looks and class. She was something. But Manni had really drained me good, so I knew I could not do justice to Marina tonight. So, I held back and did not make a move on her, but our interesting conversation continued.
Then Marina's GF arrived and I was introduced. I lit a fag for the GF and the three of us continued to talk. Then Marina whipped out something interesting and we smoked that. It was a very pleasant evening scene. Before I took my leave of the girls, Marina gave me her business card and I told her I would call her. I am thinking maybe a Saturday night get together, but I will have to see how I feel and what I am in the mood for. We never discussed money so that is something too.
Anyway, it was another wonderful night in SP. My only critique of what I am doing is that so far I have not done one new girl in Scandallo except for Sheila's BFF. I know I have to work on this. Ha Ha.
Meanwhile, tonight I am heading back to Bomboa. There are 2 new girls there that I only had brief conversations with and I want to hook up with one of them tonight, but anything can happen and usually will when you go to your favorite boates.
Friday morning and afternoon pass uneventfully with Recife and me. We grab "food by the kilo" lunch as I was craving the Brazilian style meal and head back to the hotel to get some rest before tonight. Back at the hotel, we have another long session which ends with CIP and she and I are thoroughly satisfied.
As we are getting ready for the evening meal at Nakka Jardins, she says that she wants to invite a friend who stays in SP and who she has been wanting to taste. So, she invites her and we meet at the restaurant. This friend of hers is married to a much older guy who lives here part time and part time in Europe. She is 25 yrs old and no kids. Recife tells me that she is going to try and seduce her and let's see how the night goes. I was like. Cool. Let it play out. During dinner, they drink an entire bottle of wine and are having a good time so we decided to go to a bar near us. At the bar, both are dacing with each other but nothing sexual so I am thinking that this girl will leave at the end of the night and that is that. We leave the bar at 1230 and we are drunk and hungry. So stop by for a pizza at margharita pizzeria and then head back home.
In the room, the girl wants to take a shower so she gets naked and jumps in the shower and I am like. This is going to happen but I don't have any condoms. I then hop in the shower and get into the bed. Recife then goes to take a shower and the new girl just decides to jump on top of the bed and starts making out with me. Soon enough we are getting hot and heavy and I go down on her and she is getting close to climax. She pulls me towards her to kiss, pulls my shorts down and puts my dick inside her. I am banging her while Recife is throwing up in the bathroom as she drank too much. After approx a good 15 minutes, I end up CIP and we clean up.
Now, Recife has cleaned up and wants her friend. So she gets into bed and start eating her out and this girl is back arching moaning and squeezing my hand and pushing my mouth on her nipples. This goes on for a bit and Recife gets on top and dry jumps her till she comes. Then, she moves over to me, start a BJ and her friend sits on top of my face while they take turns making out and giving me a BJ. Recife then climbs on top and starts riding till she she comes and she is exhausted. I am still hard so the new girl then decided that she wants more dick and climbs on top. Woohoo. Interchange happens and I fuck her till I finish CIP. Three of us fall asleep till morning.
Wake up today, eat breakfast and they decide to go to her salon to get done for the afternoon where we will be eating at fogo do chao and day drinking. She has decided to stay till Sunday afternoon with us. No charge as she enjoys time with Recife and the dinner and drinks.
Brazilian women are just fucking awesome!!
Much as I like Cariocas, I must point out that the all time favorite Carioca worked in a SP prive, Miruna, until the owner wifed her up and gave her her own prive. She was hotter than any girl at Scandallo, and I like Moema much better for the safety and scenery in the 'hood.
Just look up Kamila Werneck, a Carioca native.
This is like saying I prefer Bud over Heinekein, which are fighting words in some bars and chatrooms, I hear.
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2688888]Nice update! I'm glad to hear the Renaissance is still the place to stay.
That's a good call on sending the other girl away, sometimes we get emotionally attached to paying in exchange for services only, but got to keep in mind that what counts is the experience, good or bad, so if you can control the outcome let it be good!
I hope you can find another candidate, still curious to know if the butt to kitty experiment will go down LOL. And enjoy your CIP experiences, for some reason I've been stuck on wanting to do this with girls I see, is it a fetish? I don't know, but finishing in the bag or even outside seems so unappealing to me right now.[/QUOTE]I like the feeling of being able to CIP and I think it will be part of my normal routine. Just having the freedom becomes addicting.
AH — great reports. Enjoy your time in SP!!
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Putting your dick in her is why God created Brazilian women and proof God is Brazilian, not Argentinian.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2689221]Much as I like Cariocas, I must point out that the all time favorite Carioca worked in a SP prive, Miruna, until the owner wifed her up and gave her her own prive. She was hotter than any girl at Scandallo, and I like Moema much better for the safety and scenery in the 'hood.
Just look up Kamila Werneck, a Carioca native.
This is like saying I prefer Bud over Heinekein, which are fighting words in some bars and chatrooms, I hear.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2688945]The evening started on a low point when Paula, my Sexy Revista cover girl, kept me waiting for over 90 minutes. It is not as bad as it sounds because I had nothing else to do at the time, but when 8:30 rolled around and Paula was still not in an Uber and heading over I pulled the plug on her and ordered up an Uber to take me to Scandallo. I texted Paula while in the Uber. She seemed genuinely surprised that I had cancelled on her and she apologized for her delay. I wasn't mad. I just told her I was sorry we could not get together, and we could talk about it tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Axel, please don't read this comment as a criticism of you. It is not.
As I read your Revista cover girl kept you waiting for over 90 minutes and wasn't in the Uber so you cancelled, I started to think that was harsh. The funny thing is if that happened anywhere else in the world I would think what is her problem. With Brazilian garotas, I just expect this kind of crazy tardiness.
Don't feel like you were harsh. She was probably with a client and called another when you cancelled.
The girls wake up hungover on Saturday and we rush to get breakfast to cure the hangover. Then they decide to head to the salon that her friend owns and we meet at Fogo do Chao for lunch and lots of drinks.
Head back to the hotel to play around some more. Recife starts with me while the other girl is getting changed and then she joins by eating out Recife. Switch positions and the other girl is giving me a BBJ while I am eating out Recife. Recife has her first orgasm while I am down there and tells me to fuck her. So, I oblige while she is tasting her friend who is now moaning and writhing like crazy. So, I look at her friend and she smiles at me and tells me to put it in her and of course I oblige. Always willing to please. This goes on a for a few times with each girl wanting to get pounded a bit longer than the last one. There is so much going on that as I get ready to come, Recife tells me that she wants me to finish inside her as she is also getting ready to come. I am just pounding her till I finally come inside her and as I slow down she tightens her hold on me and gives a long shiver. She is done and we just lay in each other's arms. Exhausted and slightly sweaty.
Time for a nap and then dinner. Dinner is at 830 pm and after dinner is done, we head back to the room. While walking in, there is a girl sitting at the bar who catches my eye. So, I make an excuse to come back down to the lobby to get her number and see if I can set up something for Sunday afternoon as the girls are going to leave after breakfast. I walk up to the girl, ask her name and get her number. She asks where I am from and I am like. Shit. She is going to charge me the gringo price and I was right. More later. I told her I would text her in the am and we leave it at that. Head back to the room and I just want to fuck Recife and bust a nut and then go to sleep and we do exactly that. Another nut busted and we sleep around 1 am satisfied.
Unfortunately, neither girl does anal so that part of the dream is still hanging on. And that itch needs to be scratched before I head back home.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2689388]Axel, please don't read this comment as a criticism of you. It is not.
As I read your Revista cover girl kept you waiting for over 90 minutes and wasn't in the Uber so you cancelled, I started to think that was harsh. The funny thing is if that happened anywhere else in the world I would think what is her problem. With Brazilian garotas, I just expect this kind of crazy tardiness.
Don't feel like you were harsh. She was probably with a client and called another when you cancelled.[/QUOTE]No problems mate. I don't think I was harsh. Paula and I have a history. She has never been late before. We had set up this date a day prior. On the day of our planned get together we casually texted each other several times up to 6:15 pm and everything seemed fine. I texted her again at 7:15 and she said she was getting ready and would leave her apartment soon. I don't know what went on at her place. Frankly I did not think of another customer. I thought her delay might have something to do with her son or something. What she should have done when she knew she was going to be 90 minutes late to our party was to ask me if we could meet later like at 10 pm and give me the option to say yes or no.
Anyway, I waited patiently until 8:15 and then said to myself, fuck it. It was around 8:30 (90 minutes late) when I texted her from an Uber and told her the date was off. She seemed genuinely surprised, but not mad. Neither of us were mad. It was just not to be that night for whatever reasons. I have no regrets because I hooked up with Sheila and her bisexual bff that night instead.
I might call Paula again while I am still in SP. I am going to be in town for another 5. 5 weeks. She is a smokin' hot girl and I like her. But the thing is there are a lot of Paulas out there. Ha ha. So, it is hard to say when I will get back to her. But regardless of when, I don't think she will leave me hanging 90 minutes again. I could be wrong.
What is the average age of the people in Scandallo? I'm mid 20's just wondering if I would be out of place there? I didn't see anything about a dress code but the pictures I've seen people look pretty dressed up, is there a dress code? Is it similar to a FKK but just fancier? I tried to search for this question here but I don't know how to search for two words.
[QUOTE=RandomPilot;2689757]What is the average age of the people in Scandallo? I'm mid 20's just wondering if I would be out of place there? I didn't see anything about a dress code but the pictures I've seen people look pretty dressed up, is there a dress code? Is it similar to a FKK but just fancier? I tried to search for this question here but I don't know how to search for two words.[/QUOTE]It's pretty much like any other club. You'll find all kinds of guys of various age groups 18 to 70's and some wearing suits and others in t shirts and jeans. You don't want to look like you just rolled out of bed or heading to the gym. Pretty standard stuff.
Sunday morning was a rush to get the breakfast out of the way as the girls were leaving after breakfast. I was kind of relived to see the other go but not Recife. For some reason, I click with her better than other girls. Might be due to her past experience or her ability to be so chill and laid back. She also was recently in England and that opened her eyes. She just provided a much better GFE than the others I have been with.
But. My anal itch hadn't been scratched yet so I texted Leticia from the bar last night. She agreed to do anal and finish in mouth but her hourly charge was 2000 and I started laughing on the text. I told her that I spent 4000 for a full weekend including flight to being Recife down. She has to be kidding. Her answer is that she works in hotels and that is the rate she gets. I told her bye politely and she was a little pissed. She said that other people from other countries pay the price. So maybe I am just being a cheapskate. I said. Sure. And moved on. No point in discussing the matter further. I even texted a few on PA including the one I had last time who was busy till Monday and the others were too late in texting back or didn't reply. Maybe end of carnival weekend and they want to rest on Sunday. So. The itch hasn't been scratched and will have to wait till my next trip down.
Few things I noticed:
1. Hotel doesn't really check how many guests you have. I registered two the first night and they charged me 350 r for the third guest but I took her off after the first night and they didn't charge for the new girl we bought in. There wasn't a charge for her breakfast for two days either.
2. The girls at the hotel bar are a hit or miss and for mongers like us. Mostly a miss. They are good for those that don't want to venture outside of their hotel. A lot of people are like that. They have heard of how dangerous it is and just refuse to leave. But you will pay the price for not knowing the market rates.
3. Hotel was fully packed due to carnival weekend and by Sunday it was pretty empty. No masks anywhere and the breakfast downstairs was in full swing which makes me happy. The lounge was open and back to its normal self. Glad to see things coming back to normal.
4. Walked Avenida Paulista on Sunday and it was a full on party. Street vendors, drinks, band playing and people dancing in the street. I spent a few hours just going up and down.
Anyway. Another great weekend in São Paulo and now back to my regular life at home which I enjoy since it makes weekends like these more interesting.
Anaggie, was Leticia wearing a white dress when you met her in the lobby bar Saturday night?
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2689906] My anal itch hadn't been scratched yet so I texted Leticia from the bar last night. She agreed to do anal and finish in mouth but her hourly charge was 2000 and I started laughing on the text. [/QUOTE]You were right not to even negotiate with Leticia. Either she is out of her mind or certain Renaissance guests are out of their mind. Either way I can't imagine her being a very busy girl. I guess from her perspective less is more or she is out fishing for a bigger catch than you or me.
Anyway, I had a very pleasant Saturday night. I had a GFE time with Vanessa. It was our 2nd get together since I arrived back in town. After boom boom, I took her to Figueira Rubaiyat where we had more drinks and a romantic dinner. Around midnight I said bye bye to Vanessa and put her in an Uber.
I wandered over to the bench area outside the Rennaissance lobby to smoke a Cubano. A few minutes later this attractive REN freelance bar girl came out and sat on the bench next to mine. I nodded Hello, but continued to mind my own business, expecting that the girl would make her pitch at some point.
The girl was definitely sexy, however, so I am just wondering if this is the Leticia that you met at the Ren bar Saturday night. The girl sitting opposite me was wearing a low cut white dress that showed off her breasts in a beautiful way. In addition, her dress had a long slit along the left side that reveled all of the girl's leg and thigh while she sat.
I continued smoking my Cubana and I was just enjoying the balmy night before calling it a night. The girl was absorbed with something on her cell phone and she ignored me. I was almost finished with my cigar when she began laughing at something she was viewing on her phone. I said something like, what is so funny? And she looked up and said, "Portuguese" in what I interpreted as an abrupt manner. I was not going to take her upstairs no matter what, but I found our brief moments together somewhat amusing.
I was mongering in SP about 5 years ago, took a new job that kept me away, then Covid hit. But things have changed and I am getting to SP a few times a month now.
Will have some reports up soon, mainly about photoacompanhantes, and my experience / advice on that site.
It's good to be back.
Lonny.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2689221]Much as I like Cariocas, I must point out that the all time favorite Carioca worked in a SP prive, Miruna, until the owner wifed her up and gave her her own prive. She was hotter than any girl at Scandallo, and I like Moema much better for the safety and scenery in the 'hood.
Just look up Kamila Werneck, a Carioca native.
This is like saying I prefer Bud over Heinekein, which are fighting words in some bars and chatrooms, I hear.[/QUOTE]Miruna was the first cliníca I went to when I was coming to SP, I assume it is closed now. Like Café Foto is and most of my other haunts. Really looking fwd to getting to know SP again after over 5 years away.
Lonnie.
Yup. This is what happens when all of these newbs who don't negotiate and just accepts anything these girls say. That price is already hitting Scandallo.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2689906]But. My anal itch hadn't been scratched yet so I texted Leticia from the bar last night. She agreed to do anal and finish in mouth but her hourly charge was 2000 and I started laughing on the text. I told her that I spent 4000 for a full weekend including flight to being Recife down. She has to be kidding. Her answer is that she works in hotels and that is the rate she gets. I told her bye politely and she was a little pissed. She said that other people from other countries pay the price. So maybe I am just being a cheapskate. I said. Sure. And moved on. No point in discussing the matter further. [/QUOTE]
I am pretty sure Miruna is still open.
JimmyBoy could confirm, as he is in SP now.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2690041]Miruna was the first clinca I went to when I was coming to SP, I assume it is closed now. Like Caf Foto is and most of my other haunts. Really looking fwd to getting to know SP again after over 5 years away..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2690103]I am pretty sure Miruna is still open.
JimmyBoy could confirm, as he is in SP now.[/QUOTE]Yes, Miruna is open, as are almost all the other clinicas, priives, and boates.
Hi guys,
I'll be making my first trip ever to Brazil next week and will mostly be seeing independent girls off photoacompanhantes. The biggest questions I have is, how safe is it to go to a girls incall / apartment? I also welcome any other advise you have for a first time. Thank in advance!
OK, looks like I finally got my subscription here back on, had a bit of an issue with it, prob my fault, but whatever.
So, I was getting to SP once to twice a month back between 2014-2017. Alto Bom Gosto was one of the local knowledgeable mongers, actually met him.
I was mainly frequenting Clínicas, The Kilt, Love Story and Cafe Foto when I had extra cash. I did hook a few times on Photoacom.
Now, I have been back for about 6 months and all I do is photoAcm.
I have done about 15 TDs since back. Been about a third good, a third average and a third terrible.
Here are two to avoid like the plague;.
Luiza Barone, in Jardins.
Larissa Salimeni, also in Jardins.
Fake bait and switch all the way. Book with either and the girl won't be them.
Here are a few that were legit, into it and seemed super cool.
Alicia Muller, Jardins.
Cleo Schmidt, República.
Pricila, no area, she comes to you.
My whole thing is GFE. I want sex, but I need affection with it.
So far, I have been with 5 out of 15 that provided that.
I think it's a legit site for meeting girls without a lot of time invested, but 33% success rate isn't great.
But ol' Lobster has wised up, and can now spot the faker ads.
I will put up a quick quiser on that soon, if you all are interested.
Happy mongering!
Lonnie.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2690126]Yes, Miruna is open, as are almost all the other clinicas, priives, and boates.[/QUOTE]Good to know it's still open, I thought it was pretty good for girls, cleanliness and cost. Brooklyn was prob better selection of talent, but costly and out of the way for me.
Fran Oliver, light skinned mestiça.
Heaps of girls on Photoacom have old or enhanced photos, not Fran. In fact, she is finer in person than her photos. Really sweet too. I would like to take her on a night out, just have to find the time.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2689956]Anaggie, was Leticia wearing a white dress when you met her in the lobby bar Saturday night?
You were right not to even negotiate with Leticia. Either she is out of her mind or certain Renaissance guests are out of their mind. Either way I can't imagine her being a very busy girl. I guess from her perspective less is more or she is out fishing for a bigger catch than you or me.
Anyway, I had a very pleasant Saturday night. I had a GFE time with Vanessa. It was our 2nd get together since I arrived back in town. After boom boom, I took her to Figueira Rubaiyat where we had more drinks and a romantic dinner. Around midnight I said bye bye to Vanessa and put her in an Uber.
I wandered over to the bench area outside the Rennaissance lobby to smoke a Cubano. A few minutes later this attractive REN freelance bar girl came out and sat on the bench next to mine. I nodded Hello, but continued to mind my own business, expecting that the girl would make her pitch at some point.
The girl was definitely sexy, however, so I am just wondering if this is the Leticia that you met at the Ren bar Saturday night. The girl sitting opposite me was wearing a low cut white dress that showed off her breasts in a beautiful way. In addition, her dress had a long slit along the left side that reveled all of the girl's leg and thigh while she sat.
I continued smoking my Cubana and I was just enjoying the balmy night before calling it a night. The girl was absorbed with something on her cell phone and she ignored me. I was almost finished with my cigar when she began laughing at something she was viewing on her phone. I said something like, what is so funny? And she looked up and said, "Portuguese" in what I interpreted as an abrupt manner. I was not going to take her upstairs no matter what, but I found our brief moments together somewhat amusing.[/QUOTE]Yup. That is the one. I saw her when we were headed out for dinner on Saturday night, she was sitting by herself at the bar. Then, when we came back around 11 pm she was standing outside the doors looking at her phone. I came down to talk to her and then went back upstairs.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2690041]Miruna was the first clinca I went to when I was coming to SP, I assume it is closed now. Like Caf Foto is and most of my other haunts. Really looking fwd to getting to know SP again after over 5 years away.
Lonnie.[/QUOTE]Please check your PMs. Sent you one.
[QUOTE=Dawg90;2690222]Hi guys,
I'll be making my first trip ever to Brazil next week and will mostly be seeing independent girls off photoacompanhantes. The biggest questions I have is, how safe is it to go to a girls incall / apartment? I also welcome any other advise you have for a first time. Thank in advance![/QUOTE]If you follow some common sense, you're relatively safe going to a girl's incall apartment in Sao Paulo. Generally, I would stick to going to go to a building in a nicer part of town. Jardins, Moema, Bela Vista, etc. Many of these buildings have a front desk and cameras. I don't mind being required to check-in at the desk. It's for her safety and likely yours as well. It also helps to stick with escorts that have a footprint on the internet.
If you think something is off when you arrive, get out of there. If you sense someone else is there in another room, find out who it is or leave. Sometimes members have noted a guy in the other room. Not good. While others have noted a female roommate, who might also be an escort sharing the place. Likely no big deal.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2690268]Fran Oliver, light skinned mestia.
Heaps of girls on Photoacom have old or enhanced photos, not Fran. In fact, she is finer in person than her photos. Really sweet too. I would like to take her on a night out, just have to find the time.[/QUOTE]Based on your recommendations, it would seem you have a penchant for the slender Brasileiras.
Fran Oliver is the perfect example of a slender Brasileira who still has that pop in her ass.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2690268]Fran Oliver, light skinned mestia.
Heaps of girls on Photoacom have old or enhanced photos, not Fran. In fact, she is finer in person than her photos. Really sweet too. I would like to take her on a night out, just have to find the time.[/QUOTE]Does Fran speak any English? She is on my list to message next week when I arrive.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2678061]I've met real Brazilian women lawyers and doctors, some very attractive, through work.
There are not any of them at the termas or prives.
Whoring may be legal in Brazil, but it is still the bottom 5 or 10% of society.[/QUOTE]THIS! Nailed it.
I am pretty excited to go to Rio & SP within the next month. Based on all the great takes, it seems like I have a fair idea about my trip and how much mongering I can get away with in a week. Just wanted to see if you guys think it would be a good idea to get an Airbnb as someone who doesn't speak Spanish / Portuguese and whether it would be a safe option. Also other than Scandallo in SP, which club would be the best in terms of quality not considering the price. Finally, do you typically see any of the high end acompanhantes working inside the likes of Scandallo as well?
Ye'thou th'old timers! Anyone knows what happened (or what's happening) to Luana Martinelli?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2679251]....You see I think most mongers have stress in their lives that they do not like to talk about. They would like to have one woman, but they have not found a woman who was special enough for them to give up their monogamy. Society says, "Oh, you are fucking that woman. You have to be monogamous", and they feel the shame of seeing multiple women.
Some guys here are such feminist types they objected to the phrase "earning monogamy" but I think it is a worthwhile exercise. What would it take for you to be loyal to one woman? If you can answer that question, your straying is not the problem, the women just are not good enough.[/QUOTE]BINGO! That has exactly been my experience. Most, and I really do mean MOST women are not worthy of my monogamy.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2679251]That is the funny part. You actually visualize what you want, and the universe has a weird way of giving it to you.[/QUOTE]Yep. In the end, the universe tends to unfold as it should.
Good post!
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2689906]Sunday morning was a rush to get the breakfast out of the way as the girls were leaving after breakfast. I was kind of relived to see the other go but not Recife. For some reason, I click with her better than other girls. Might be due to her past experience or her ability to be so chill and laid back. She also was recently in England and that opened her eyes. She just provided a much better GFE than the others I have been with.
But. My anal itch hadn't been scratched yet so I texted Leticia from the bar last night. She agreed to do anal and finish in mouth but her hourly charge was 2000 and I started laughing on the text. I told her that I spent 4000 for a full weekend including flight to being Recife down. She has to be kidding. Her answer is that she works in hotels and that is the rate she gets. I told her bye politely and she was a little pissed. She said that other people from other countries pay the price. So maybe I am just being a cheapskate. I said. Sure. And moved on. No point in discussing the matter further. I even texted a few on PA including the one I had last time who was busy till Monday and the others were too late in texting back or didn't reply. Maybe end of carnival weekend and they want to rest on Sunday. So.[/QUOTE]Was this Leticia a really slim, smoking hot blonde in a leopard print kind of romper? WhatsApp number ended in 914? If so, I had her for a pernoite for 1000 a few weeks back, but no anal, actually no blowjob either, but an enjoyable fuck and what a body. Overpaid but enjoyed it. I still chat at her but won't repeat, way better talent there for less.
[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2680177]That's why I say enjoy having a place like Scandallos, because it could disappear or be driven underground overnight.[/QUOTE]Just like most everything else in life, enjoy the good things while they are here. Tomorrow, they may not be here. 'Nuff said.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2682349]The Dollar / Real currency exchange has dropped +20%. This page has been quiet lately now. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, but it has recovered some in the last week or so and hopefully will continue its upward trajectory in time for my arrival in the middle of May.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2690382]Based on your recommendations, it would seem you have a penchant for the slender Brasileiras.
Fran Oliver is the perfect example of a slender Brasileira who still has that pop in her ass.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Wyatt, I'm thin to win.
I am a sucker for thin, martini TaTas with tight asses. Fran is perfect. If I was 20 years younger I would seriously consider taking her off the market.
Wyatt, you were here back before Covide, correct? I think we exchanged messages here.
[QUOTE=Tnttwo;2690411]Does Fran speak any English? She is on my list to message next week when I arrive.[/QUOTE]I don't think Fran speaks any English. My Portuguese is about 6/10 and the few times I had trouble getting a sentence right she did not offer any help in English. She is like 20-21 if I had to guess, from the country, prob not much formal education beyond high school. But fine as heck, sext and nice.
[QUOTE=Dawg90;2690222]Hi guys,
I'll be making my first trip ever to Brazil next week and will mostly be seeing independent girls off photoacompanhantes. The biggest questions I have is, how safe is it to go to a girls incall / apartment? I also welcome any other advise you have for a first time. Thank in advance![/QUOTE]As another monger mentioned, stay in the better areas, and any building with a door person will be super safe. Only once have I been at an apartment where there was another person besides the girl, and it was another girl doing the same thing as her, in another room. Don't be surprised if you are offered to have her join, but price will go way up.
The big thing is with Photoacom, is bait and switch, or the photos being really old / photoshopped.
Here are a few red flags that an ad might not be legit;.
Super hottie with a crazy low price. Hotties don't go for less than 250-300 reis an hour. See one at 150 or less, prob bait switch *****.
The ad is generic and has only 4 photos that are not risque but rather like vacation photos.
She only has an option to meet her at her place, but the neighborhood is not listed, and probably not a price listed either.
If you make contact, and you get canned responses, prob bait and switch.
Big red flag, location changes just before your scheduled session. That happened to me twice, first time I fell for it, second time I bailed on her immediately.
Look for these types of ads;.
Multiple non professional photos with heaps of her body showing.
Ones with TD reviews.
Location, with address is better, set price per hour.
A description that is not generic.
Ones that have multiple options of where to meet, like club de swing, jantar romântica etc.
Price is consistent with her hottie-ness.
All the above is not a guarantee of not getting bait and switched, but just a guideline from my experience using the site.
As I don't have much free time when I'm there, it has been my go-to as you can set up a session with minimal expense of time or money.
Hope this helps.
Lonnie.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2685886]Yeah That's even a bit kind. ID go with never ever ever give a girl you don't know any money for anything. They may even not be a girl! And that's the last you will hear from them. Always always only money in person to a girl you have physically had sex with![/QUOTE]Nicely said. This is some "prime directive"-type stuff here. A fool and their money sis soon parted. This would be a perfect example of it.
[QUOTE=Dawg90;2690222]Hi guys,
I'll be making my first trip ever to Brazil next week and will mostly be seeing independent girls off photoacompanhantes. The biggest questions I have is, how safe is it to go to a girls incall / apartment? I also welcome any other advise you have for a first time. Thank in advance![/QUOTE]Forgot to mention, but don't be surprised if a girl is on there but her actual place of meeting is a Clínica. You will see some absolute hotties going for 100 reis, in Santana. They might be legit, but it is a Clínica at rua Henrique Bernardelli 119, so maybe she goes for 100, but it will be much more as you have to pay the house in addition. I have been wanting to go there as there are more than a few super fine chicks with ads on Photoacom.
Do any mongers have any Intel on the place?
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2690658]Ye'thou th'old timers! Anyone knows what happened (or what's happening) to Luana Martinelli?[/QUOTE]She was a smokin' hot porn actress. I wouldn't think she was still working as an acompanhante. She has to at least 40 now. It would appear she hung up the garter around 2015.
Sometimes I see a current photo of a past porn star. Let's just say many times it's better to just have the memory and the old video clips.
Do any mongers go to actual night Clubs to dance?
I went to Blitz house back 5 years ago, music was not very good, I like house / electronic dance music when clubbing. I was going to another cool bar that had a dance floor in back called Mono, in Baixa Augusta, but sadly it closed. They had a speaker made out of a refrigerator, really great idea.
Has anyone been to the-Edge? Looks like it could be good. Was thinking of taking a girl out clubbing, any recommendations?
Thanks,
Lonnie.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2690734]Do any mongers go to actual night Clubs to dance?
I went to Blitz house back 5 years ago, music was not very good, I like house / electronic dance music when clubbing. I was going to another cool bar that had a dance floor in back called Mono, in Baixa Augusta, but sadly it closed. They had a speaker made out of a refrigerator, really great idea.
Has anyone been to the-Edge? Looks like it could be good. Was thinking of taking a girl out clubbing, any recommendations?
Thanks,
Lonnie.[/QUOTE]I went to Sutton in November and had a good time with my girl.
Av. Brg. Faria Lima, 4509 - Vila Olímpia, São Paulo. SP, 01452-915, Brazil.
From what I remember there is a 400 BRL entrance fee but it's all consumable or maybe it was 200 but 400 for the both of us.
They give you a card like in scandallo to buy drinks and order food if you come before 9 pm or something like that.
I wasn't aware of that but before we left the guy at the exit let us grab a bunch of drinks and gave us a bag to haul it out back to our hotel.
It's a high top club so nice views and they play American music so really nice vibes.
It's not a swing club but the few clubs I went to in SP and RJ there are always couples that will come up to you and your date and ask if you want to go out together for fun LOL.
There are a bunch in SP so best to ask your girl where the cool ones are as there are a bunch in the biggest city in South America.
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2690658]Ye'thou th'old timers! Anyone knows what happened (or what's happening) to Luana Martinelli?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=WyattEarp;2690727]She was a smokin' hot porn actress. I wouldn't think she was still working as an acompanhante. She has to at least 40 now. It would appear she hung up the garter around 2015.
Sometimes I see a current photo of a past porn star. Let's just say many times it's better to just have the memory and the old video clips.[/QUOTE]No man, she was a regular (but still hot hot hot) GDP doing occasional porn. I saw her at least 3 times and had a whale of the time back in the day. If she liked you she'd give you a different name to call her by when you call her next and that would basically half the price. I just remember her well and wouldn't mind seeing her again even if she's in her 40's, which I think she's probably in her late 30's now.
So anyone knows what she is doing nowadays I definitely would love to hear it.
Dancing.
Casaro is SP was fun to go to dance. I went with a girl from a clinica.
In Rio, I would recommend Ganja Coffee Shop Lapa, Rua do Rezende 82. Girls who smoke ganja like to fuck, and the hoars we like will like to go to ganja coffee shop. However, they will probably like the younger guys who are there, so be forewarned.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2690734]Do any mongers go to actual night Clubs to dance?
I went to Blitz house back 5 years ago, music was not very good, I like house / electronic dance music when clubbing. I was going to another cool bar that had a dance floor in back called Mono, in Baixa Augusta, but sadly it closed. They had a speaker made out of a refrigerator, really great idea..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2690841]No man, she was a regular (but still hot hot hot) GDP doing occasional porn. I saw her at least 3 times and had a whale of the time back in the day. If she liked you she'd give you a different name to call her by when you call her next and that would basically half the price. I just remember her well and wouldn't mind seeing her again even if she's in her 40's, which I think she's probably in her late 30's now.[/QUOTE]I think most of the women who shoot Brazilian porn are / were also quite available GDPs. Occasional porn is a relative term. There are quite a few of Luana's scenes on the internet porn sites. She shot for some American production companies as well.
I presume we are talking about the adorable, petite blonde with a lithe body named Luana Martinelli.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2690994]Dancing.
Casaro is SP was fun to go to dance. I went with a girl from a clinica.
In Rio, I would recommend Ganja Coffee Shop Lapa, Rua do Rezende 82. Girls who smoke ganja like to fuck, and the hoars we like will like to go to ganja coffee shop. However, they will probably like the younger guys who are there, so be forewarned.[/QUOTE]Isn't Caseiro just a boite?
I was looking more for a nightclub where actual DJs play dance music for people to dance to. Mono was that, Blitzhouse. The-Edge has what is described as a top of the line Soundsystem and lighting. I have been to Casero and I wouldn't describe it's Soundsystem as what too tier nightclubs have.
Casa 92 was really fun, but I saw it closed too.
But thanks for responding.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2690802]I went to Sutton in November and had a good time with my girl.
Av. Brg. Faria Lima, 4509 - Vila Olmpia, So Paulo. SP, 01452-915, Brazil.
From what I remember there is a 400 BRL entrance fee but it's all consumable or maybe it was 200 but 400 for the both of us.
They give you a card like in scandallo to buy drinks and order food if you come before 9 pm or something like that.
I wasn't aware of that but before we left the guy at the exit let us grab a bunch of drinks and gave us a bag to haul it out back to our hotel.
It's a high top club so nice views and they play American music so really nice vibes.
It's not a swing club but the few clubs I went to in SP and RJ there are always couples that will come up to you and your date and ask if you want to go out together for fun LOL.
There are a bunch in SP so best to ask your girl where the cool ones are as there are a bunch in the biggest city in South America.[/QUOTE]Looks really nice, got good reviews to. Thanks for letting me know about it.
Does anyone have any Intel on this place?
It's at rua Henrique Bernardelli 119, in Santana neighborhood.
I see heaps of hotties on Photoacom with ads with that address.
Thinking about going there, but it's a bit far from my hotel, and a bit leary as the chicks are crazy fine and could just be bait and switch type of operation.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2691034]I think most of the women who shoot Brazilian porn are / were also quite available GDPs. Occasional porn is a relative term. There are quite a few of Luana's scenes on the internet porn sites. She shot for some American production companies as well.
I presume we are talking about the adorable, petite blonde with a lithe body named Luana Martinelli.[/QUOTE]Yep, that's the girl.
Can you take a girl into Scandallo, if I had a girlfriend there who wanted to go with me? Any idea how the women there deal with the house?
There is this girl who has a fantasy about being taken there and offered to other men, wondering how hard that would be to make happen? She is a local (sort of, from 2 hours north of Sao Paulo).
[QUOTE=Lonster;2691161]Does anyone have any Intel on this place?
It's at rua Henrique Bernardelli 119, in Santana neighborhood.
I see heaps of hotties on Photoacom with ads with that address.
Thinking about going there, but it's a bit far from my hotel, and a bit leary as the chicks are crazy fine and could just be bait and switch type of operation..[/QUOTE]I have not been to. But it is a well known bait and switch clinica / prive on the local forum. They do a lot of ads on fake photo online and it's unclear if any of the girls In the ads are real. When you book a girl and get there, they will say that girl is busy or just send you another girl. That said, guys have gone there to see the line up (without booking) and have reported that a few good young lookers. I think the total price is r160 or 190 per hour. I have been tempted to go look but it's really far away. Too risky for me to waste a few hours to come back empty. Let us know how is if you venture out!
[QUOTE=Lonster;2691140]Isn't Caseiro just a boite?
I was looking more for a nightclub where actual DJs play dance music for people to dance to. Mono was that, Blitzhouse. The-Edge has what is described as a top of the line Soundsystem and lighting. I have been to Casero and I wouldn't describe it's Soundsystem as what too tier nightclubs have.
Casa 92 was really fun, but I saw it closed too.
But thanks for responding.[/QUOTE]You can try Hot bar in Moema. It's a High end swing bar but lots of young hot locals go there on the weekends to party. They have good DJs and a big dance club area. The swing area is separate on the opposite side. The dance area opens late. If you reserve online to be on the list, the cover is a lot cheaper with it being mostly consumables. It's nice to bring a GP to party, and girls like going because it's a high end place. But my girl was the hottest girl there on the swing side and open for anything and that just attracted too much attention.
[URL]https://www.hotbar.com.br/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Lonster;2691161]Does anyone have any Intel on this place?
It's at rua Henrique Bernardelli 119, in Santana neighborhood.
I see heaps of hotties on Photoacom with ads with that address.
Thinking about going there, but it's a bit far from my hotel, and a bit leary as the chicks are crazy fine and could just be bait and switch type of operation.
Thanks.[/QUOTE][URL]https://massagenssantana.com.br/index.html[/URL]
Does not seem like a regular clinica as you make an appointment directly with the girl. They may be freelacners who use the facility for sessions.
Paris cafe in Barra in Rio works like that.
Club mix bar in praca xv in Rio works like that.
So does the nude beach haha.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2691303]You can try Hot bar in Moema. It's a High end swing bar but lots of young hot locals go there on the weekends to party. They have good DJs and a big dance club area. The swing area is separate on the opposite side. The dance area opens late. If you reserve online to be on the list, the cover is a lot cheaper with it being mostly consumables. It's nice to bring a GP to party, and girls like going because it's a high end place. But my girl was the hottest girl there on the swing side and open for anything and that just attracted too much attention.
[URL]https://www.hotbar.com.br/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LionsNTigers;2691250]Can you take a girl into Scandallo, if I had a girlfriend there who wanted to go with me? Any idea how the women there deal with the house?
There is this girl who has a fantasy about being taken there and offered to other men, wondering how hard that would be to make happen? She is a local (sort of, from 2 hours north of Sao Paulo).[/QUOTE]I took my wife but we are in our mid-30's and not local so clearly not there to work so I'm not sure if it will be possible to get a room without one person involved who is actually working. The hotel was happy to charge me 3 x for the foursome though, at least we got a big room.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2691426][URL]https://massagenssantana.com.br/index.html[/URL]
Does not seem like a regular clinica as you make an appointment directly with the girl. They may be freelacners who use the facility for sessions.[/QUOTE]I was kinda thinking that might how it worked, as the ads on Photos matched girls on their site. The girls are only asking 100 reis, which is way low for their hotness level. I assume the house will take 200 or so, which is still a pretty good bargain if the girl looks anything like her photos.
Could be a good way to meet a freelancer who might like to meet outside of the place.
Thanks for responding.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2691303]You can try Hot bar in Moema. It's a High end swing bar but lots of young hot locals go there on the weekends to party. They have good DJs and a big dance club area. The swing area is separate on the opposite side. The dance area opens late. If you reserve online to be on the list, the cover is a lot cheaper with it being mostly consumables. It's nice to bring a GP to party, and girls like going because it's a high end place. But my girl was the hottest girl there on the swing side and open for anything and that just attracted too much attention.
[URL]https://www.hotbar.com.br/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks!
I asked one of the girls I met on Photos about going to a disco, and she said we could go to a swing club. My niece butt thought she meant swing dancing, not swinging, ha!
So I think I might take her up on that. Once I wised up, I asked her how she would feel seeing me with another girl. She said about the same as me seeing her with another guy. Winner!
I will ask her if she knows of that place. She has probably been there.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2691300]I have not been to. But it is a well known bait and switch clinica / prive on the local forum. They do a lot of ads on fake photo online and it's unclear if any of the girls In the ads are real. When you book a girl and get there, they will say that girl is busy or just send you another girl. That said, guys have gone there to see the line up (without booking) and have reported that a few good young lookers. I think the total price is r160 or 190 per hour. I have been tempted to go look but it's really far away. Too risky for me to waste a few hours to come back empty. Let us know how is if you venture out![/QUOTE]Def has been on my mind that it might work like that. And it is a hike for me as well. When things seem to good to be true.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2691303]You can try Hot bar in Moema. It's a High end swing bar but lots of young hot locals go there on the weekends to party. They have good DJs and a big dance club area. The swing area is separate on the opposite side. The dance area opens late. If you reserve online to be on the list, the cover is a lot cheaper with it being mostly consumables. It's nice to bring a GP to party, and girls like going because it's a high end place. But my girl was the hottest girl there on the swing side and open for anything and that just attracted too much attention.
[URL]https://www.hotbar.com.br/[/URL][/QUOTE]I have never been there, but some girls like this place [URL]https://www.spicyclub.com.br/[/URL]. It’s better have your date with you.
I have received so much inputs, advice and the forum. So I wanted to share my trip report.
We were 3 friends who visited together. Stayed at Renaissance. Hotel is in a very nice neighborhood. Just behind the hotel are some upscale bars and restaurants.
Across the street next to the McD, there are 3 money exchanges next to each other. The Day-Cambio is what I used. Decent rates, but the process took 30 minutes. As if I was buying a home mortgage process. 1000 USD per day, show the passport etc, dramatics.
Renaissance lobby had some decent girls 2-5 girls most of the evenings. But all looking for 1000-1500. My friend took 1 for 1000. Very poor service.
We had planned many seeking girls. First day had a 3 some with 2 seeking girls, had to book their ubers, etc, they were so "tiny" think compared to the pictures. They were trying to impress, but just didn't know how to operate as a 3-some. They did their part, but it was not fun. We had around 6-7 girls on various days (day-time) to meet with seeking girls. But all of them were too soft, naive or not good in bed at all. Compared to Scandallo service. Every evening we went to Scandallo. Wed 20th was great. Thursday / Friday / Saturday was 50% the crowd. Due to the holidays / carnavale etc. , Wed. Our first night was happening. On the last night, Saturday we got a 19 year old girl, who took 2-3 drinks with us and went crazy in the room. She was literally carried away to go down without condoms, but in the last minute, out of a safety concern, I killed my enthusiasm and wore one. Almost all the girls asked 1000,1500,1200 etc. , some we got with 600, but some who spent a lot of time with us drinking etc. , and were fun and high energy, ended with 700-800. With almost all of them we were able to do 2 times. Scandallo room charges for 1 hour was 230. But every time I paid 280,315,405 etc, because I stayed more than hour and I think they were calculating by the minute after the hour. 4 girls, 4 night. All of them just were bubbling with energy, gave an amazing crazy experience. And all of them did two times. Some did sensual massages with oil etc. , so the girls worked very hard to keep us happy. So 10000% worth the effort and money at Scandallo. The manager, the staff all took care of us right-royal. We also tipped for good service and the enter service staff did take care of us. Royalty treatment. Scandallo entrance 400 with 200 in food / drinks allowance. Room is 230. If you entered before 7 pm, the entrance is 200 and you can apply the entire 200 towards food and drinks. (we never made it before 7).
Went to Connection. We went there a little early around 9 pm on the advise of one of the staff at Scandallo. (ran by the same owner). The Connection bar has strip dancing. But it starts only at 11. The girls all come to you. Was a little bit of pressure. The quality of the girls was 50% lower than Scandalllo. But prices were 400-etc. , entrance was 100. With 50 in consumption.
Went to TajMahal. Ipad pictures, and then pick one and go to the room. Clean facilities. 350 total. Didn't like the ipad experience. Like the parade.
Went twice to Tangara. Literally 3-5 girls only in the parade. Didn't do anything. Just went their for old ABG memories.
Wanted to go to Miruna, enjoy etc. , but the 2 friends acted and behaved too royalty and were pampered by scandollo. So they didn't were not good wing-men.
Went to are-Augusta. Just for the experience. Again were there at 10 pm. A little too early. Was too dull, we walked into many of them without paying entrance to "look". Again we were too clouded by Scandallo luxury and didn't session anywhere.
Went to Cafe Foto, Bamboa. Was "empty with 10 girls on Friday and Saturday". Cafe Foto wanted to do a 2 for 3 entrance discount. But they were upfront, that they had only 10 girls. So didn't stay anywhere.
So all 4 nights it was Scandallo. Organized many numbers and had some of the Scandallo girls come to hotel on Sunday.
Overall- the BED satisfaction was extremely high with scandallo girls than anywhere else. Seeking was a terrible waste / mistake as far as our experiences are concerned.
Scandallo we didn't find most girls speak any English at all. In my prior trips, I have seen a reasonable number spoke English, but this time, literally none.
Every night dinners were extremely good at Scandallo.
Overall. As usual Scandallo was the winner, and all our poor experiments to stay away from Scandallo to look for alternatives, just fell flat on the face for us. (given, some of the guys were NOT open anything less than the fancy Scandallo).
[QUOTE=MRusa007;2691798]I have received so much inputs, advice and the forum. So I wanted to share my trip report.
Every evening we went to Scandallo.Almost all the girls asked 1000,1500,1200 etc. , some we got with 600, but some who spent a lot of time with us drinking etc. , and were fun and high energy, ended with 700-800.[/QUOTE]
1. The Scandallo quotes for 1000,1500,1200 was for 1hr? onsite room (or pernoite at hotel)
2. Seems like it's getting harder to get girls for R500hr-R800hr onsite or is it a matter of negotiating skills?
Thanks for a detailed report.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2692006]1. The Scandallo quotes for 1000,1500,1200 was for 1hr? onsite room (or pernoite at hotel)
2. Seems like it's getting harder to get girls for R500hr-R800hr onsite or is it a matter of negotiating skills?
Thanks for a detailed report.[/QUOTE]In October 2020 it was easy to talk down girls at Scandallo down to 600R for short time. Out of 8 girls only one didn't want to budge from 1000.
By the way, I checked the rate of Renaissance hotel and it's now sky-high (400 euros a night). What's happening?
[QUOTE=XXL;2692010]In October 2020 it was easy to talk down girls at Scandallo down to 600R for short time. Out of 8 girls only one didn't want to budge from 1000.
By the way, I checked the rate of Renaissance hotel and it's now sky-high (400 euros a night). What's happening?[/QUOTE]Pent up travel demand. It is crazy in countries where there are little covid restrictions.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2692006]1. The Scandallo quotes for 1000,1500,1200 was for 1hr? onsite room (or pernoite at hotel)
2. Seems like it's getting harder to get girls for R500hr-R800hr onsite or is it a matter of negotiating skills?
Thanks for a detailed report.[/QUOTE]It was 1000,1500, 1200 etc, was for 1 hour upstairs within Scandallo. (room was 230 separately). But this is for negotiation. Only one girl didn't move from the 1000. Almost all of them started here and ended around 700-800.
[QUOTE=XXL;2692010]In October 2020 it was easy to talk down girls at Scandallo down to 600R for short time. Out of 8 girls only one didn't want to budge from 1000.
By the way, I checked the rate of Renaissance hotel and it's now sky-high (400 euros a night). What's happening?[/QUOTE]Renaissance. We booked through Marriott points. But it was funny, when we booked 3 months ago, it was 100 k points, but 2 days before, it was 72 k points. So I was within the cancellation window and I cancelled and rebooked. It is funny at that same time, the $ pricing was increasing. I guess, I lucked out.
It is now 17 days into my trip. I have 30 more days remaining. From now on I will always think of SP as the city of women. That is all I do every day aside from eating, drinking, walking around, and sleeping. There are so many attractive girls here and they are so good in bed, it is fucking fantastic. The girls leave me no time for writing trip reports. Reports will have to come later when I am back in Shitsville, USA.
But 2 recent posts on current asking prices have got me posting about a few of my experiences this trip on the price topic:
In October Scandallo girls were asking as much as 900 br, but they always accepted my counter offer of 500 br. This April I still give the Scandallo girls I knew from October 500 br. I am giving new April Scandallo girls that I have just met 600 br.
Tonight one of my favorites, Sheila, who was the main girl in my ménage a trois post from 2 weeks ago, is coming over to my hotel to spend the night. We are going to drink Malbec, smoke weed, boom boom, go out for dinner and boom boom some more. She asked for 1000 br plus Uber for all night and I agreed because it seemed a friendly offer.
I have experienced similar pricing in Bomboa. 500 br for my girls from October & 600 br for new girls.
The crazy thing I have experienced is the 2 quotes I have received from a Club Model and a MClass girl that I reached out to. The Club Model one is a super hot, all natural, branca, no tattoos, no surgeries, and no butt enlargements, but maybe a nose job, LOL. I won't give her name out over the internet, but she is currently the prettiest blond Club Model girl on their web site, so it is not that hard to figure out who I am talking about. After I contacted her she sent me a form response:
"Atendimento them meu local, hotel e motel.
Cach: are $1.500/ h + taxa de deslocamento.
Restrio: ando fao anal.
Para agendamentos de horrios ser necessrio 50% do valor via pix.
Link abaixo com minhas fotos e vdeos."
Her link provided 40 or more pics and videos. So she is for real, but she is pricing herself out of business IMHO. I texted back, "Wow! Querida, acho voc muito bonita, mas tambm acho seu preo umpouco alto. " and she texted back, "Ahh infelizmente ando consigo diminuir o valor."
So that was that. No point in pursuing the matter further or so I thought. I said goodbye and told her to have a good day. But then a couple of days later she sends me a text asking if I want to see her. I have not gotten back to her yet, but I may just to see if she has changed her mind although there is no way I am sending a girl I never met 1 real. Ha ha. In April 2021 during the lockdown MClass girls were asking 700 br. BarraVIP RJ girls were asking 500 & 600 br and I met some great girls on those two web sites.
One more thing: 3 nights ago I met a very attractive blond spinner in Bomboa. She looked vaguely familiar, but I could not place her. Anyway we had a real nice session in Bomboa, so nice, that I texted her the next day to see if she wanted to get together again. She said she did, but that she would prefer to come visit me at my hotel because that way she would not be stuck all night at Bomboa. So we made our plans for a short time at my hotel. Then during the day it came to me: she was a very attractive Club Model girl that I had noted and placed on my possible list before arriving in SP. I checked my docs and sure enough, same girl. She took down her advertisement during Easter which was a disappointment to me and so far she has not put her add back up. The night we met in Bomboa she asked for 800 br. I countered with 600 br and she accepted. A far cry from 1500 br ask of the 2 call girls I mentioned earlier. KKK.
Our 2nd night at my hotel was really good. We drank wine and got to know each other a little better. She is a great gal and she is 100% fluent in English. I really dig her, but I also dig almost every girl I have been with this trip and I have repeated with many.
This is Lusa Nowak on club model. I don't know how much she changes now. I think she went by another name before and she charged 1500/ HR.
Oi Nounce,
Small world. Louise Nowak IS the call girl I was talking about, the one I contacted. I think she is pretty hot although not perfect by any means. I would rate her 7. 9 out of 10 in my rating system which is very high.
The 1500 br asking price is bad enough, but sending her half the money upfront is cuckoo for coco puffs. HA HA. I think she is getting horrible advice from someone. She can't have many takers under these conditions. So maybe I will spot her in Scandallo one night. KKK.
A. H.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2692186]This is Lusa Nowak on club model. I don't know how much she changes now. I think she went by another name before and she charged 1500/ HR.[/QUOTE]Is $300 USD/HR... Na, I'll pass. She looks good but the price too rich for me.
[QUOTE=UniversalX;2692216]Is $300 USD/HR... Na, I'll pass. She looks good but the price too rich for me.[/QUOTE]Why go to Brazil to pay $300? I myself can find top talent just over the Canadian border for that price. She allegedly requires a 50% deposit for an appointment.
With a name change (formerly Isabelle Drummond), the advance deposit and a general lack of reviews, red flags abound.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2692186]This is Lusa Nowak on club model. I don't know how much she changes now. I think she went by another name before and she charged 1500/ HR.[/QUOTE]She's hot, but I wouldn't pay that. Too high. My max, based on current exchange rates, would be 1,000/ hour. Looking at it from her angle, I don't know what her situation is, but maybe she's not looking for high volume, and doesn't need it either. Maybe she wants a smaller cadre of customers who pay more, so she doesn't have to fuck as much. I think she has the looks to get enough guys to bite. And if her service is good, then plenty of those guys would be willing to be repeat customers. There are always those mongers who think they're getting something more (and exclusive) just because they're paying more to bang a hot chick that most other guys will pass on.
[QUOTE=UniversalX;2692216]Is $300 USD/HR... Na, I'll pass. She looks good but the price too rich for me.[/QUOTE]Curious.
Are you saying there are better looking girls for lot less?
[QUOTE=Nounce;2692186]This is Lusa Nowak on club model. I don't know how much she changes now. I think she went by another name before and she charged 1500/ HR.[/QUOTE]Yea she went by another name before but apparently a bunch of local guys on the GPguia forum and even on here blasted her for insanely high prices. It got pretty messy with her answering with some brutal remarks LOL.
I messaged her out of curiosity back in September and she stuck solid on 1500.
She's apparently grabbing some guys and making some cash because she has the first post on private55, clubmodel and splove which are the 3 biggest escort sites in SP and that does cost a pretty penny (I don't consider PA because of all the bait and switch and low quality girls).
I think we tend to forget that there are some big whales out there that will spend money without batting an eye.
There is a market of guys who just love to spend money for no reason just to do it. I do some work for a few strip clubs and it's just a daily occurrence of seeing guys spend 25 k in one night just to drink with a bunch of girls and make it rain. I don't understand that mindset but those guys bring that mindset to Brazil and do It there as well.
It's an interesting strategy of trying to catch that small market of guys who will pay that kind of money but it definitely works since I'm pretty sure we all know that one guy who does this LOL.
I would still never pay that kind of money but some guys just have more money than sense.
I just remembered a story a friend of mine told me that summarizes this. He was hanging out with an owner of a big club and they couldn't find any parking.
Where most people see a handicap parking spot with a $300 fine, he just saw it as the parking spot fee and treated it how you would for valet parking. He had a bunch of tickets and would just pay it off just to not waste time finding a parking space.
So this girls price are for guys like this.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2692224]... Maybe she wants a smaller cadre of customers who pay more, so she doesn't have to fuck as much...[/QUOTE]That is what she said. Why fuck 6 when you only need to fuck 2. Haha.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2692271]Yea she went by another name before...[/QUOTE]You also think it is the same girl? I was curious because Axel's post so I went to look it up. I am not sure but I think she is the same one.
[QUOTE=Aaragon2022;2692254]Are you saying there are better looking girls for lot less?[/QUOTE]Not better looking, but you should be able to get someone at the same level for 600 last year. Some will target gringo and charge more. That is what a another Scandallo girl said and was quoted in local forum. This is also my personal experience, at Scandallo she wanted 800 but online was 600 or so. I forgot the actual number. I have a post with her picture here.
Another monger mentioned him.
I don't see him here anymore.
Did ABG move away, or did he move on to the great price in the sky?
Just wondering, as the one time I met he he seemed like a solid dude.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2692271]Yea she went by another name before but apparently a bunch of local guys on the GPguia forum and even on here blasted her for insanely high prices. It got pretty messy with her answering with some brutal remarks LOL.
I messaged her out of curiosity back in September and she stuck solid on 1500.
She's apparently grabbing some guys and making some cash because she has the first post on private55, clubmodel and splove which are the 3 biggest escort sites in SP and that does cost a pretty penny (I don't consider PA because of all the bait and switch and low quality girls).
I think we tend to forget that there are some big whales out there that will spend money without batting an eye.
There is a market of guys who just love to spend money for no reason just to do it. I do some work for a few strip clubs and it's just a daily occurrence of seeing guys spend 25 k in one night just to drink with a bunch of girls and make it rain. I don't understand that mindset but those guys bring that mindset to Brazil and do It there as well..[/QUOTE]I think if a girl is in a situation where she doesn't need to turn Trix to keep a roof over her head, it's a good strategy. But the girl better be damn hot to be able to pull it off. From her picture she is smoking hot, def a 9+.
She can just sit back with minimal cost and time, and make solid extra cash.
As for the guys paying it, to some, that amount is chump change. To a loaded guy, why get your meat from Sizzler when you can go to a high end steak joint?
[QUOTE=Nounce;2692186]This is Lusa Nowak on club model. I don't know how much she changes now. I think she went by another name before and she charged 1500/ HR.[/QUOTE]You can get similar or hotter in Germany for equivalent BRL 1000 / HR.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2692130]In October Scandallo girls were asking as much as 900 br, but they always accepted my counter offer of 500 br. This April I still give the Scandallo girls I knew from October 500 br. I am giving new April Scandallo girls that I have just met 600 br.
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I have experienced similar pricing in Bomboa. 500 br for my girls from October & 600 br for new girls.
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The crazy thing I have experienced is the 2 quotes I have received from a Club Model and a MClass girl....[/QUOTE]Wow! Are prices rising so quick? Is it an "after Covid economic thing"? Making some research by myself on mclass / splove / clubmodel I can also feel that the prices are going up (for those who mentioned their prices of course). But it is not unusual to see 700/ HR 800/ HR. 1 year ago on the same websites the average price was 500 or 600/ HR.
Going to SP from the end of May. Wanted to book myself into the Renaissance from reading here. But prices are pretty high there at the moment.
Can anyone recommend another good hotel. Ie. Guest-friendly, good neighbourhood? Maybe even a lobby bar where one may catch a WG or two?
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2692537]Going to SP from the end of May. Wanted to book myself into the Renaissance from reading here. But prices are pretty high there at the moment.
Can anyone recommend another good hotel. Ie. Guest-friendly, good neighbourhood? Maybe even a lobby bar where one may catch a WG or two?[/QUOTE]Although I don't know exactly what they're charging these days, I can recommend the Mercure Times Square in Moema, but please RTFF for other ideas:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4069-Sao-Paulo-Hotels-and-List[/URL]
My first time back in SP in 6 weeks. I usually get here 2-3 times a month for work, but had a break. When here it's short, so have to hit ground running.
So last night took my main babe out to celebrate a job she got. Took her to Terraço Italia, high end resto on the top of the Italian building in República. Food and service were very good, but the view, which is what you are paying for is incredible.
Very romantic dinner, with a fashion model body babe. Met her Photoacom 6 months ago, she doesn't post anymore, gives newlywed on honeymoon GFE, which I live for. I know I am paying for it, but she delivers. Excellent session at her flat after.
But today.
Only had noon to 1 open, tried to schedule with two hotties near my hotel, Manu Mila and then Mila Albuquerque, got the Heisman on both. Albuquerque actually responded, and we spoke on the phone, but she couldn't swing my limited time frame.
So I ventured out of my strike zone and contacted a woman in Jardins called Alinne. MILF for sure, but I liked her description, and she responded right away and was available. Met at her place at noon. For all you guys who like thick woman, with bundao and big fake boobs and frizzy hair (bimbo), you would dig her. All business, walk in, take of clothes, go at it, but she DFKed, let me touch her wherever, and was fairly loving. But I could not cum vaginally, she finished me with blow and hand job. Rubbers are tough anyway to cum, but not being into the chick makes it impossible for me. I just don't find that type of chick sexually attractive. She asks 200 reis, I gave her 225, as she was nice, educated, and treated me well, has her own place that was clean.
She is not attractive on the face, has some cellulite on her thighs and bum, but if you like thick woman, than she would be a good choice for not much money.
Lonnie.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2692271]Yea she went by another name before but apparently a bunch of local guys on the GPguia forum and even on here blasted her for insanely high prices. It got pretty messy with her answering with some brutal remarks LOL.
I messaged her out of curiosity back in September and she stuck solid on 1500.
She's apparently grabbing some guys and making some cash because she has the first post on private55, clubmodel and splove which are the 3 biggest escort sites in SP and that does cost a pretty penny (I don't consider PA because of all the bait and switch and low quality girls).
I think we tend to forget that there are some big whales out there that will spend money without batting an eye.
There is a market of guys who just love to spend money for no reason just to do it. I do some work for a few strip clubs and it's just a daily occurrence of seeing guys spend 25 k in one night just to drink with a bunch of girls and make it rain. I don't understand that mindset but those guys bring that mindset to Brazil and do It there as well.
It's an interesting strategy of trying to catch that small market of guys who will pay that kind of money but it definitely works since I'm pretty sure we all know that one guy who does this LOL.
I would still never pay that kind of money but some guys just have more money than sense.
I just remembered a story a friend of mine told me that summarizes this. He was hanging out with an owner of a big club and they couldn't find any parking.
Where most people see a handicap parking spot with a $300 fine, he just saw it as the parking spot fee and treated it how you would for valet parking. He had a bunch of tickets and would just pay it off just to not waste time finding a parking space.
So this girls price are for guys like this.[/QUOTE]Yep no question whales exist. I've known two escorts in London snapped up by big daddies. Melty was awesome and worked there about a year. Suddenly she's jetting all over the world and pictures on beaches and luxury sports cars. And Anna has found a local daddy with pounds coming out his eyeballs. She's daily posting from $1000/ night hotels and $300/ plate restaurants. A new Gucci bag and flowers pretty much weekly.
I mean these guys are in a different league. Measured in the eight figures and up I'the say.
[QUOTE=MRusa007;2691798]We had planned many seeking girls. First day had a 3 some with 2 seeking girls, had to book their ubers, etc, they were so "tiny" think compared to the pictures. They were trying to impress, but just didn't know how to operate as a 3-some. They did their part, but it was not fun. We had around 6-7 girls on various days (day-time) to meet with seeking girls. But all of them were too soft, naive or not good in bed at all.
Seeking was a terrible waste / mistake as far as our experiences are concerned.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report on seeking girls in SP. There were a few very good report on seeking several months ago on this tread but I wasn't convinced. How much was your price per meeting and did your girls speak English? I have many girls on my to do list already and didn't have time to find girls on seeking. Sounds like pretty low yield from your report.
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2692537]Going to SP from the end of May. Wanted to book myself into the Renaissance from reading here. But prices are pretty high there at the moment.
Can anyone recommend another good hotel. Ie. Guest-friendly, good neighbourhood? Maybe even a lobby bar where one may catch a WG or two?[/QUOTE]Just curious.
The renaissance is nice hotel but What's the fascination of the renaissance lobby girls? Is it the fantasy of going to a hotel bar, buying a Sexy girl a drink and taking her upstairs? Or the convenience of not leaving the hotel to get a girl. Even though for night action, there is casarao, Bomboa, and scandallo within 5 to 20 minutes away with 50 to 200+ girls. I never stayed but the lobby seems to have between 2 to 6 girls who cater to international travelers with high prices and less than stellar service.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2692461]Did ABG move away, or did he move on to the great price in the sky?[/QUOTE]The latter, sadly.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2692636]Thanks for your report on seeking girls in SP. There were a few very good report on seeking several months ago on this tread but I wasn't convinced. How much was your price per meeting and did your girls speak English? I have many girls on my to do list already and didn't have time to find girls on seeking. Sounds like pretty low yield from your report.[/QUOTE]Most seeking girls started with 2000, some even at 5000. Etc, but most of them settled at 800. I had 600, 800, 1000 for different reasons. 1000 was to stay from 1 pm to 5 pm. But in general, most of them wanted 800. From excellent English. To average English. Seeking girls spoke better English than Scandallo. But 1000% experience wise were very poor. Other than English, very posh dressed, the output was terrible.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2692643]Just curious.
The renaissance is nice hotel but What's the fascination of the renaissance lobby girls? Is it the fantasy of going to a hotel bar, buying a Sexy girl a drink and taking her upstairs? [b]Or the convenience of not leaving the hotel[/b] to get a girl. Even though for night action, there is casarao, Bomboa, and scandallo within 5 to 20 minutes away with 50 to 200+ girls. I never stayed but the lobby seems to have between 2 to 6 girls who cater to international travelers with high prices and less than stellar service.[/QUOTE]Shoot, [URL]https://casaraoaugusta.com.br/[/URL] is walking distance from Renaissance.
[URL=https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Rua+Augusta,+791+-+Consola%C3%A7%C3%A3o,+S%C3%A3o+Paulo+-+SP,+Brazil/Alameda+Santos,+2233+-+Jardim+Paulista,+S%C3%A3o+Paulo+-+SP,+01419-101,+Brazil/@-23.5556983,-46.6603923,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x94ce5835011b8921:0xb40856e7a7d873e6!2m2!1d-46.653427!2d-23.5525419!1m5!1m1!1s0x94ce59d2bc4e59df:0x660bf321361e0bc3!2m2!1d-46.6623653!2d-23.5588858!3e2]Google Map[/URL]
You answered your own question.....Lol, however I don't waste my time with them. They are low-hanging-fruit. IMHO best to venture out (probably the reason for traveling to SP in the first place) and explore the bounty of SP.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2692643]Just curious.
The renaissance is nice hotel but What's the fascination of the renaissance lobby girls? Is it the fantasy of going to a hotel bar, buying a Sexy girl a drink and taking her upstairs? Or the convenience of not leaving the hotel to get a girl. Even though for night action, there is casarao, Bomboa, and scandallo within 5 to 20 minutes away with 50 to 200+ girls. I never stayed but the lobby seems to have between 2 to 6 girls who cater to international travelers with high prices and less than stellar service.[/QUOTE]Well, I guess its merely about having the option should all else fail or coming back late from business. Primary option would be something else, and most certainly Scandallo is top of the todo list. Then there's the ambience of decadence. If the hotel allow girls working the lobby, there certainly wouldn't be frowned upon what else you bring.
But guess in the end fellows mongers here speak of Renaissance as the place to stay, that's a fine reference for me. And who knows, maybe some other ISGers are in town for a beer or worse while there. I am a newbie to SP.
For the record I did book it, pricy or not.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2692643]Just curious.
The renaissance is nice hotel but What's the fascination of the renaissance lobby girls? Is it the fantasy of going to a hotel bar, buying a Sexy girl a drink and taking her upstairs? Or the convenience of not leaving the hotel to get a girl. Even though for night action, there is casarao, Bomboa, and scandallo within 5 to 20 minutes away with 50 to 200+ girls. I never stayed but the lobby seems to have between 2 to 6 girls who cater to international travelers with high prices and less than stellar service.[/QUOTE]Convenience. Same reason I get a drink at the lobby bar instead of venturing out to an entire city worth of much better drinking establishments. When I'm in SP for work, I don't have the time or energy to go hunting till the wee hours. Also, I've found the prices usually fall closer to market value if you counter and they realize you aren't ignorant of the GDP market.
ABG's favorite sushi place?
There's a all you can eat sushi place in liberdade that abg would always go to. Anyone remember? His pro forma day was noon - 19 h, prives, then 20 h, all you can eat sushi. It was excellent. He was a great man, and should be remembered well in our community of mongers.
A few guys were asking about girl friendly hotels. Correct me if I am wrong. Like in the USA, all decent hotels in SP allow girl visitors. I don't know about the cheap budget hotels. Just be discreet and book for 2 persons as a precaution. Most hotels and apartment buildings make guests register, and that is common in entering any building in SP. There are recommendations to get a hotel in Moema or Jardins but that is due to location convenience and read the SP hotel thread for recs.
[QUOTE=Agpov;2692680]The latter, sadly.[/QUOTE]That's sad.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2692643]Just curious.
The renaissance is nice hotel but What's the fascination of the renaissance lobby girls? Is it the fantasy of going to a hotel bar, buying a Sexy girl a drink and taking her upstairs? Or the convenience of not leaving the hotel to get a girl. Even though for night action, there is casarao, Bomboa, and scandallo within 5 to 20 minutes away with 50 to 200+ girls. I never stayed but the lobby seems to have between 2 to 6 girls who cater to international travelers with high prices and less than stellar service.[/QUOTE]Fear probably has a lot to do with it also. Fear of getting robbed on the street, in the taxi or Uber, in the club since you don't speak the language. At the hotel, they feel that they aren't getting ripped off on the bar tab or by the girls. They feel safer in their own room.
Humans are strange creatures. And do strange things 🤣.
Want to give back to the board and those that are considering a trip to Sao Paolo.
First, a big shout out to PARSTIGER who responded to my private message and has updated me on the current status of SP. Thanks!
I have read ISG back to the beginning of 2020 and have 41 pages of information and reports saved on a word documents. I tend to over prepare, but it often helps. I have visited every online site, such as Clubmodel and Prvt55, and categorized the woman who are my potential victims. I had a list of over 50, which I then narrowed down by contacting them directly via whatsapp getting their rates and restrictions. After narrowing that down I went to the local website (GPU) and tried to find reviews. I still believe I will use the online gals as a standby. Prefer to hit the clubs and afternoon joints to get interaction and see if they are my type. My tastes is wide open except for HUGE asses and big legs. Silicon in the ass is yuck. I prefer the tall model type body. An 8 can turn into MY 10 of she is a kisser and BBBJ specialist!
I joined Seeking out of curiosity. Paid 110 USA For a months subscription. Made some contacts but suspecting waste of time and effort. I was looking for an English speaking lady to take out to dinner and hang with. I shouted out to a recent poster who said his dates on seeking were blismal. Was hoping he would provide the names directly to me so I could avoid them.
Quick background. Been to 10-12 countries for our sport, so not a newbie. Been going to Colombia past 7-8 years with about 25 trips under my belt there. Will compare the two when I return from SP.
I am on the wrong side of 60, and I believe that plays into ones activities. Not rich, not poor. I budget for my trips. I noticed many posters are fortunate enough to be able to stay at the 5 star places in SP, but I don't see the cost benefit for me. Elected to stay in Moema area. It's safe, close to the afternoon / evening facilities and there are a ton of girls who advertise on the escort websites within walking distance.
I am actually NOT much of a "quickie" guy, such as the afternoon boates provide. I do want to check them all out just in case the talent is to good to pass up for the cost.
I am a nightclub / strip club so my plan is to hit them up during the week (Tue, Wed. and Thur.) I have budgeted for a few nights at Scandallo and have the presence of mind to walk away from any tute that is asking too much. I prefer to session in my hotel room however after reading the reports it's clearly important to me to test drive them in the club.
I won't bore you further with my preparations. Just wanted to start with my methodology and see how it turns out. In the end, I prepare for my first time trips.
I arrive next week and if there is someone who wants to wing for a night, I am easy going. Been around the block and consider myself street savy. I don't consume much alcohol here in the USA But tend to enjoy my drinks in a club / party scene.
Scandallo, Cafe Foto, Bamboa and Casarao are the list of clubs I want to visit. Connections is off my list per the recent feedback I got from Parstiger.
Prime Clinica is probably going to be my first stop based on trip reports and body types.
Shoot me a private mail if you have thoughts or suggestions.
As a side note, I met the owner of this website 7 or 8 years ago in Medellin, Colombia, "Jackson". A person is never who / what you think they are until you meet them. Good guy. Wonder if he is still around. He was living in Argentina back then.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2693259]Fear probably has a lot to do with it also. Fear of getting robbed on the street, in the taxi or Uber, in the club since you don't speak the language. At the hotel, they feel that they aren't getting ripped off on the bar tab or by the girls. They feel safer in their own room.
Humans are strange creatures..[/QUOTE]I can vouch for the fear factor. The guys that are with me on my work trips to SP are absolutely terrified of leaving the hotel, or the one stark house that comes to pick us up when a reservation is made. The woman at our job avoid going there altogether, they are that scared.
Works great for me so I can ditch them and do my thing without having it spread at work.
Bomboa 40 is now Bomboa 222 (again). The first and last fotos are Aarii from 222. The second is Katherine from a place in Faria Lima, which should be avoided at all costs (409). The facilities are crap, the mgmt are a bunch of crooks. The next three fotos are the new interior at Casarao.
Cheers,
Stay Toxic, my friends!
[QUOTE=Jet69;2693582]Want to give back to the board and those that are considering a trip to Sao Paolo.
First, a big shout out to PARSTIGER who responded to my private message and has updated me on the current status of SP. Thanks!
I have read ISG back to the beginning of 2020 and have 41 pages of information and reports saved on a word documents. I tend to over prepare, but it often helps. I have visited every online site, such as Clubmodel and Prvt55, and categorized the woman who are my potential victims. I had a list of over 50, which I then narrowed down by contacting them directly via whatsapp getting their rates and restrictions. After narrowing that down I went to the local website (GPU) and tried to find reviews. I still believe I will use the online gals as a standby. Prefer to hit the clubs and afternoon joints to get interaction and see if they are my type. My tastes is wide open except for HUGE asses and big legs. Silicon in the ass is yuck. I prefer the tall model type body. An 8 can turn into MY 10 of she is a kisser and BBBJ specialist!.[/QUOTE]Zup JetSet?
Going to put this out to the board, not private M, so all can profit.
We are kindred spirits on type of woman and type of experience we would like to have with them. GFE all the way from dinner to bed! Sex without affection is not interesting.
I have used the prives / Clínicas, but I have not come across much affection there. It's assembly line sex. But you might run into a girl who might want to see you outside of the place for dinner etc.
I have been using PhotoAcompanantes and have had some good success, but have had some bad ones too. You can see my post on trying to up your odds of not getting bait and switched.
I have not been to Scandello, really would like to go.
Have been to Cafe Foto, expensive, but top notch girls, place was very nice inside, almost chique. But that was back before Covide, like 5 years ago. Have not been to Bombado, but was in touch with a girl that was working there, might go, looks like a smaller not as swank Scandello. Was at Caserao about 6 weeks ago, was not impressed at all. Unfriendly door guys, crap music, not many girls and the ones there I wouldn't do anything more than have a drink and chit chat for company, which is what I did. And that was on a Thursday night around 10 pm. Maybe it gets better later.
Happy mongering, hope you have a great time, pass along your exploits and comparison to Columbia when you can.
Lonster.
Crime Fear in SP.
I agree.
SP is actually more dangerous than Rio IMHO and experience.
SP is not as happy, as it doesn't have the beach.
Brazilians flock to SP for money, including criminals who target gringos.
The Rio bombeiro cloths suite / suit works even better in cities outside of Rio.
No one in their right mind attacks an off duty military fireman (bombeiro militar) from Rio, who wears vasco gear too (vasco is famous for the most violent fans, the ones who will crack skulls in games over small offenses because they have nothing better to do. Vasco fans are Brazil's Afghans, they fight small wars because futbol isn't violent enough in itself, the broken bones, and occasional deaths, be damned, it is better than boredom).
[QUOTE=Lonster;2693681]I can vouch for the fear factor. The guys that are with me on my work trips to SP are absolutely terrified of leaving the hotel, or the one stark house that comes to pick us up when a reservation is made. The woman at our job avoid going there altogether, they are that scared.
Works great for me so I can ditch them and do my thing without having it spread at work.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lonster;2693681]I can vouch for the fear factor. The guys that are with me on my work trips to SP are absolutely terrified of leaving the hotel, or the one stark house that comes to pick us up when a reservation is made. The woman at our job avoid going there altogether, they are that scared.
Works great for me so I can ditch them and do my thing without having it spread at work.[/QUOTE]Where in SP are you staying that they are terrified of going out? Can you all not stay in a safer neighborhood? I am in Moema and am not scared to go out, even late evening.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2693916]Crime Fear in SP.
I agree.
SP is actually more dangerous than Rio IMHO and experience.
SP is not as happy, as it doesn't have the beach.
Brazilians flock to SP for money, including criminals who target gringos.
The Rio bombeiro cloths suite / suit works even better in cities outside of Rio.
No one in their right mind attacks an off duty military fireman (bombeiro militar) from Rio, who wears vasco gear too (vasco is famous for the most violent fans, the ones who will crack skulls in games over small offenses because they have nothing better to do. Vasco fans are Brazil's Afghans, they fight small wars because futbol isn't violent enough in itself, the broken bones, and occasional deaths, be damned, it is better than boredom).[/QUOTE]A gringo wearing a vasco suit or a bombeiro shirt is still a gringo. Albeit with a different set of clothes. Not going to stop the robbers. They will size him up in a second, realize he is a gringo and realize he doesn't speak the language and do their deed.
Now. A gringo who is confident and street smart, maintains eye contact with the locals, smiles when needs be and knows the basic language skills might make it to a restaurant or bar to duck into if he is being followed.
I have been going to SP for 10+ yrs consistently and never felt any danger. I feel Copa is way more dangerous and the only time I have been robbed in all my travels was in Copa, not paying attention to my surroundings and being a gringo. Bike robber got my chain. Wasn't injured but I grabbed his hand and it slipped out because he was sweaty. Oh well. Lesson learned.
Ah, senor anaggie, we both know that neither of us are brancos, haha.
A part Asian who could be a Brazilian in coloring wearing bombeiro vasco local cloths who keeps his mouth shut especially in SP which has the most Asian population of any Brazilian city is better than the average gringo monger who wears a nascar shirt. A gringo who wears bombeiro vasco cloths who also "is confident and street smart, maintains eye contact with the locals, smiles when needs be and knows the basic language skills" is, all else equal, better off than the gringo who wears gringo cloths. Most criminals make their identify friend or foe (IFF) decision as fast as fighter pilots or infantry men with a rifle -- 6 seconds. The goal of wearing local cloths is to make the criminal move on to the next target.
I also agree completely with your statement: "I feel Copa is way more dangerous and the only time I have been robbed in all my travels was in Copa, not paying attention to my surroundings and being a gringo."
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2693949]A gringo wearing a vasco suit or a bombeiro shirt is still a gringo. Albeit with a different set of clothes. Not going to stop the robbers. They will size him up in a second, realize he is a gringo and realize he doesn't speak the language and do their deed.
Now. A gringo who is confident and street smart, maintains eye contact with the locals, smiles when needs be and knows the basic language skills might make it to a restaurant or bar to duck into if he is being followed.
I have been going to SP for 10+ yrs consistently and never felt any danger. I feel Copa is way more dangerous and the only time I have been robbed in all my travels was in Copa, not paying attention to my surroundings and being a gringo. Bike robber got my chain. Wasn't injured but I grabbed his hand and it slipped out because he was sweaty. Oh well. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2693949]A gringo wearing a vasco suit or a bombeiro shirt is still a gringo. Albeit with a different set of clothes. Not going to stop the robbers. They will size him up in a second, realize he is a gringo and realize he doesn't speak the language and do their deed.
Now. A gringo who is confident and street smart, maintains eye contact with the locals, smiles when needs be and knows the basic language skills might make it to a restaurant or bar to duck into if he is being followed.
I have been going to SP for 10+ yrs consistently and never felt any danger. I feel Copa is way more dangerous and the only time I have been robbed in all my travels was in Copa, not paying attention to my surroundings and being a gringo. Bike robber got my chain. Wasn't injured but I grabbed his hand and it slipped out because he was sweaty. Oh well. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]I also feel more danger in Rio than in Sampa, particularly in Copa and in Centro at night in some of those dark streets. That said, there are so many parts of Sampa I have not been to. I'm sure it has its own really bad spots. I know it does. But from a personal experience standpoint, and except for driving where I think the Paulistas are worse than the Cariocas (imagine that), for me I fear crime more in Rio than in Sampa. For this reason, I'm always on extra alert in Rio. Compare that for example to Moema where I have felt zero fear at all times of day and night. Lucky for me nothing bad has happened to me in either city. One thing that really helps me is that I look Brazilian. I easily pass for Brazilian and for the most part can move about without drawing any unnecessary and / or unwanted attention to myself. And that's how I like to keep it too.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2693949]I have been going to SP for 10+ yrs consistently and never felt any danger. I feel Copa is way more dangerous and the only time I have been robbed in all my travels was in Copa, not paying attention to my surroundings and being a gringo. Bike robber got my chain. Wasn't injured but I grabbed his hand and it slipped out because he was sweaty. Oh well. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]I've lived in SP for 8 yrs, been going to Rio off and on for 45 yrs. The only problems I've had in Rio were street punks trying to snatch and' grab cellphone, wallet, or parcels I was carrying home from the mercado. Was attacked in SP by a homeless and possibly mentally challenged older gentleman. I went for my folding knife and sliced him across the triceps. He scurried away quickly experiencing I imagine intense discomfort.
My Portuguese is decent, I'm also a USN combat vet who works out, 65 yrs old with a gray beard so I have the appearance of prey. Not!
Cheers,
Stay Toxic, my friends!
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2693916]Crime Fear in SP.
I agree.
SP is actually more dangerous than Rio IMHO and experience.
SP is not as happy, as it doesn't have the beach.
Brazilians flock to SP for money, including criminals who target gringos.
The Rio bombeiro cloths suite / suit works even better in cities outside of Rio.
No one in their right mind attacks an off duty military fireman (bombeiro militar) from Rio, who wears vasco gear too (vasco is famous for the most violent fans, the ones who will crack skulls in games over small offenses because they have nothing better to do. Vasco fans are Brazil's Afghans, they fight small wars because futbol isn't violent enough in itself, the broken bones, and occasional deaths, be damned, it is better than boredom).[/QUOTE]You have been in Rio long enough to be able to read the environment, others have been in Sampa long enough to feel the same way you do in Rio. I have been in both for very long period of time and I can say that I feel unsafe in Rio, even walking like a local wearing just a zunga, havaianas and a towel in front of Ipanema beach. Regarding football fans, once you go to a Corinthians vs Palmeiras game, we can sit an exchange impressions.
[QUOTE=GigiBuffon;2694011]You have been in Rio long enough to be able to read the environment, others have been in Sampa long enough to feel the same way you do in Rio. I have been in both for very long period of time and I can say that I feel unsafe in Rio, even walking like a local wearing just a zunga, havaianas and a towel in front of Ipanema beach. Regarding football fans, once you go to a Corinthians vs Palmeiras game, we can sit an exchange impressions.[/QUOTE]I used to live in Rio for the long term, lived on top of a favela even. I have had a bullet from an AK47 pierce through a brick wall (these thing ones they use here) and land on my porch. I have hidden in the inner bathroom as armed bandits were jumping over the roofs around us. I had my girlfriend almost killed. And yet, down below, I have always heard that it's even less safe, because you're exposed to random crime, which isn't the case on the hill. Rio is the most beautiful city in the world but with this lush geography of green hills and parks and beach comes two MAJOR problems (1) the whole city is sprinkled with favelas, from where the robbers emerge and disappear., and (2) this geography also causes very long ways between places with traffic jams and all. If you try to go from Copacabana to Jacarepagua, it's an odyssey. If you go from Centro Se to Japaquara, it's just a metro trip.
In Rio, I had all my valuables stolen on a fucking bus at the Novo Rio bus terminal by some molek who snatched my backpack from the luggage rack and just went out. Rio is a disaster that way. You can feel it if you compare the Rio bus terminal with Sampa Tiete, what a peaceful experience in Sao Paulo!
For years I drove by Sao Paulo and thought how ugly Sampa is and how I would never want to live here. But the truth is, if you like big cities, like Belin for example, and you stay in Centro, Bela Vista, for example, you live that same life of urban tranquility. The homeless around the cathedral are a nuisance, but they don't pose a threat other than petty crime maybe. And lately I even like mongering in Sao Paulo more than in Rio. I just came from Rio to Sao Paulo and already much happier with my day today.
When you go on Photoacompanhante and you look for Centro, Bela Vista, Republica and Higienopolis-Mackenzie, chances are more often than not the girl is in Rua Avanhandava 459. It's always like teeth pulling to get their actual address. The ads of these girls are enticing with lovely photos. The stupid web site might even say the photos are verified (useless idiots these people who run [URL]photoacompanhantes.com.br[/URL] and photoprepagos. Co and sexoservidora. Mx.) But the truth is a different one. Last night I was looking frantically for a quick blowjob before bedtime while in centro. And all these lovely chicks advertise there. But something smelled fishy whenever they said they were at Rua Avanhandava 459. Some of their auto-greetings on whatsapp were even exactly the same.
I had a super session with lovely and friendly girl down in Jabaquara before noon, so I was in very good mood. Let me get that out of the way. I am so happy. That girl works in a pretty frequented establishment, but me going in the morning evaded the crowd and had a chance of getting her fresh, unused in the morning. I usually have more interaction on WhatsApp (for good reasons that become clear below) with her I didn't, simply because I really liked her physique in the pictures, and her ad seemed real, the text less boiler plate and more personal. I just had to meet her, and so I set up the meeting for when she'd start her day and went. When we met we had instant chemistry, and she was really nice. She had a little alcohol I smelled that from her breath, but I got to smell her from really close up which means we actually made love, kissing and face to face sex with some eye gazing. She was going all moaning and almost screaming, which I thought was exaggerated and unnecessary for me, but it went along with some real connection, so didn't seem only a performance. I enjoyed her and I think I will have her for an all-nighter on Sunday or so (in a hotel that won't scold me for a loudly moaning girl in my room, haha). I am a little in love, not really, although we might even be friends, as she is studying in my area and we had good conversation about that subject. This girl made not only my day, she wiped out my blues from a bad time in Rio.
Anyway, as I returned back to centro, I decided I need to check out some of these lovely girls from the ads close to where I stay. And all those ads were leading me to Rua Avanhandava 459. I was worried that would be a scheme like Alvaro de Carvalho 107, where they suck you in with pretty ads and you go and wait and some girl comes to attend you who you haven't ever messaged. Not so here. It is just a normal apartment building, but lots of girls there. Something of the kind that Rua Major Diogo 39 once was (and apparently is no more). I went and the girl who opened the door was actually quite pretty for my taste, perhaps a 3 years older version from the super cute girl in the photos, what she was at 18 years old or so. Not sure. Probably not the same girl, but close. I liked her. But oh the attitude sucked very quickly. And that was the one time that I didn't ask probing questions on WhatsApp before. I do that quite a bit, I ask them specifically about the things they check on their profiles, and very often I am getting ignored or get evasive answers. Then I already know it's not going to be worth it. It's frustrating when what you hope for blows up in smoke over messages. But better this than wasting an hour of my day to go down like with this one. The way she told me I was supposed to lie down, this way, not that way, then she rubbed her hands with a liquid and I said, oh, you want to give me a massage? And she like "no, that's alcohol". Oh man. Very stiff and bureaucratic. When she took out the condom for the BJ, that was advertised as BBBJ, I complained. And then she gave me a lecture about HPV and shit like this, and I just cancelled the session, lost the money, but saved my time and sanity.
As I complained that her ad was all lies, she said she isn't responsible for the ad, she just works for an agency as do most girls around there. And that's the thing here. These fucking agencies who try to get clients with these exaggerated ads. This was also why so many at Major Diogo 39 sucked (except for the one girl I told you couple of years ago you had to visit while she lasted). Now I have a much better feel for looking for signs of authenticity in the ads, and just not waste my time any more about these perfect ads when there is any red flag.
Tomorrow I go back to Vila Mariana to a session with another super pretty one (too good to be true? But she confirmed to my probing question that she will squirt for me. So I will give her this chance. At least she isn't in Rua Avanhandava 459.
Excuse the newbie question, but what's the best (well safest way for a newbie gringo) way of getting to Scandallo? Uber?
If you want to take company back to the hotel, also Uber?
Further, I find the following helpful for security.
Humor. Most times I talk to a local, I say of myself, Sou Carioca do fake or Carioca falsa, because obviously with my gringo accent, I am a fake in contrast to a carioca the gema. I find some humor does help de escalate, and is a little verbal judo.
Other brands that I wear in order of helpfulness.
Decathlon, a global brand, shop here if you are coming to Brazil, and it is widely available in Brazil.
Invictus (not 5. 11) tactical cloths, same as what off duty policia federal wear, which sends a message, context dependent (don't wear it to a favela).
Red Cross Brazil shirt, bought somewhere in centro.
South & Co beach wear, especially the cargo shorts with lots of small pockets including with zippers -- the locals pick up on local brands almost immediately. Bella donna went out and bought Vagabundo 1000 reais worth of South & Co beach wear because she hated, hated the bombeiro cloths.
Bad Boy Jiu Jitsu tank top. Internash, to his credit, went with me and a brit into the popular mercado at metro uruguiana, and turned down the suggestion to buy a vasco futbol shirt, but opted instead for a MMA light shirt, a Bad Boy Jiu jitsu tank top; he did buy at the Casa de bombeiro a guardio do piscina light cap, super light and comfortable, and again, licensed by the city, and no one is going to sweat you wearing a lifeguard ball cap, but it accomplishes the mission of making the criminal move onto the next target in the 6 second identify friend or foe.
Finally, and real story, the bombeiro wallet. About a year ago, vagabundo was in an uber in zona norte with monique. We were stopped by policia militar. We were searched. They found a half smoked joint on her. The also found a bombeiro wallet on Vagabundo, and one cop said to the other, "bombeiro" and decided against taking us to the station. For that alone all my various shopping at the casa bombeiro was well worth it, to me.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2693954]Ah, senor anaggie, we both know that neither of us are brancos, haha.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2694057]Excuse the newbie question, but what's the best (well safest way for a newbie gringo) way of getting to Scandallo? Uber?
If you want to take company back to the hotel, also Uber?[/QUOTE]Yes. And yes. They will also have taxis outside Scandello which are perfectly safe to take.
[QUOTE]Was at Caserao about 6 weeks ago, was not impressed at all. Unfriendly door guys, crap music, not many girls and the ones there I wouldn't do anything more than have a drink and chit chat for company, which is what I did. And that was on a Thursday night around 10 pm. Maybe it gets better.
Lonster.[/QUOTE]Casarao is a late night boate. It doesn't open until 10 p. I made the same mistake the first time I went. Got there just after 10 p and it was dead. It filled up a little but I was getting bored and planning my exit to Scandallo at 12 a. When I paid my bill and was heading out the door, a group of hot girls walked past me and walked in. I was WTF and thought for a sec and followed them back into the club. Best decision I made. The club started to pack in after. So, don't go to Casaroa much before midnight, that's when a lot of girls start showing up.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2694090]Decathlon, a global brand, shop here if you are coming to Brazil, and it is widely available in Brazil.
Invictus (not 5. 11) tactical cloths, same as what off duty policia federal wear, which sends a message, context dependent (don't wear it to a favela).
Red Cross Brazil shirt, bought somewhere in centro.
South & Co beach wear, especially the cargo shorts with lots of small pockets including with zippers -- the locals pick up on local brands almost immediately. Bella donna went out and bought Vagabundo 1000 reais worth of South & Co beach wear because she hated, hated the bombeiro cloths.[/QUOTE]This may work in RJ, but wearing bombeiro gear or other shit you mention in Jardins, Moema, Itaim or Vila Olimpia, where I go out on weekends in SP, is a sure way to draw unnecessary attention. When I'm in SP I dress exactly the same way I dress at home; jeans, shirt, t-shirt or polo shirt and nice shoes and that is how the locals dress in those areas when they go out. I'm sure it's different in RJ, but that is not the way to go in SP. Kudos to Bella Donna for slowing you down.
Dang, have to change my plans for day one in SP. Got to hit the malls and El Centro for the proper clothes. Who would have thought. My gringo looks will disappear in a flash. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2694090]Further, I find the following helpful for security. (Buy local brands)
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[QUOTE=Nordico;2694178]This may work in RJ, but wearing bombeiro gear or other shit you mention in Jardins, Moema, Itaim or Vila Olimpia, where I go out on weekends in SP, is a sure way to draw unnecessary attention.....[/QUOTE]In my first visit to Medellin many years ago I bought a t-shirt with some sort of sports insignia on it. I got thumbs up from some guys and harsh looks from others. I learnt my lesson.
I really don't get what y'all are going on about wearing special clothes and being all scared in Sampa. I've been in Jabaquara to Santana and it's just fine.
Even I thought Santana was iffy, but it has a few addresses that kept coming up, some Dr. Cesar 209 and Henrique Bernadelli 119. Now I checked personally, and they are all in fine commercial neighborhoods. No worries. I can't even find Cesar 209 as these are all fine stores. And the Bernadelli 119 is a pretty nice looking Villa. I'm trying to muster some hornyness to actually go in and try them out for you, but I don't feel the need.
Earlier I got annoyed by another scam (like nothing really bad, just totally not what's advertized. Then another one, which I saved my time by telling the person per WhatsApp straight on that I walk out if it's not what's advertized, and that got me no response and then a block. So I knew.
Anyway, Bernadelli 119, I would go visit if I'm in the mood. And don't worry so much.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2694242]In my first visit to Medellin many years ago I bought a t-shirt with some sort of sports insignia on it. I got thumbs up from some guys and harsh looks from others. I learnt my lesson.[/QUOTE]If I wear any kind of football shirt in Brazil, it's the national team colors. Nobody has a problem with that LOL.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2694178]This may work in RJ, but wearing bombeiro gear or other shit you mention in Jardins, Moema, Itaim or Vila Olimpia, where I go out on weekends in SP, is a sure way to draw unnecessary attention. When I'm in SP I dress exactly the same way I dress at home; jeans, shirt, t-shirt or polo shirt and nice shoes and that is how the locals dress in those areas when they go out. I'm sure it's different in RJ, but that is not the way to go in SP. Kudos to Bella Donna for slowing you down.[/QUOTE]Exactly. This is how I dress whether I am in rio or in SP or anywhere else in the world. I don't feel the need to wear clothes to try to match the locals.
Please do not wear any MMA shirts or jiu jitsu shirts if you don't know or train those arts. Not only will someone try to test you and once they find out that you aren't in shape or know anything about fighting, they will take advantage. Take it from me. I laugh at those fat jokers who wear those shirts. I can tell within 5 secs by the way you walk and talk if you know anything about self defense. I have trained for over 12 years in close quarter combat martial arts and am a black belt in BJJ so I know how to avoid confrontation at all costs. Do not carry a knife with you unless you are trained in using it. The last thing you want is to have it taken away and used on you but the other guy.
Common sense and being aware of your surroundings will save your life in sticky situations. Once you are inside a safe area, you can let your guard down a bit but not 100%. Train to spot exits and try to keep your back to a wall. Other than that, relax, smile and have fun. People aren't out to get you or hurt you 99% of the time.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2694329]I really don't get what y'all are going on about wearing special clothes and being all scared in Sampa. I've been in Jabaquara to Santana and it's just fine.
Even I thought Santana was iffy, but it has a few addresses that kept coming up, some Dr. Cesar 209 and Henrique Bernadelli 119. Now I checked personally, and they are all in fine commercial neighborhoods. No worries. I can't even find Cesar 209 as these are all fine stores. And the Bernadelli 119 is a pretty nice looking Villa. I'm trying to muster some hornyness to actually go in and try them out for you, but I don't feel the need.
Earlier I got annoyed by another scam (like nothing really bad, just totally not what's advertized. Then another one, which I saved my time by telling the person per WhatsApp straight on that I walk out if it's not what's advertized, and that got me no response and then a block. So I knew.
Anyway, Bernadelli 119, I would go visit if I'm in the mood. And don't worry so much.[/QUOTE]Hey Stinky,
Really good advice, thanks.
I too have been curious about Bernardelli 119. Most here seem to think it is a bait and switch type place as those woman we see using that address on Photoacom won't actually be there when one arrives for their session, and will be offered other girls.
I am on the fence as to go, as it is a hike for me, and don't want to get there expecting to meet a hottie from the site only to be offered something else. But the hotness of the girls advertising with that address is enticing.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2694151]Casarao is a late night boate. It doesn't open until 10 p. I made the same mistake the first time I went. Got there just after 10 p and it was dead. It filled up a little but I was getting bored and planning my exit to Scandallo at 12 a. When I paid my bill and was heading out the door, a group of hot girls walked past me and walked in. I was WTF and thought for a sec and followed them back into the club. Best decision I made. The club started to pack in after. So, don't go to Casaroa much before midnight, that's when a lot of girls start showing up.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the lowdown.
I will actually be in SP tomorrow, have plans to be in Baixa Augusta for drinks, finishing around 11. Might try Casarao again as I will be right there.
If any mongers are available, maybe we can hang out there.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2694044]When you go on Photoacompanhante and you look for Centro, Bela Vista, Republica and Higienopolis-Mackenzie, chances are more often than not the girl is in Rua Avanhandava 459. It's always like teeth pulling to get their actual address. The ads of these girls are enticing with lovely photos. The stupid web site might even say the photos are verified (useless idiots these people who run [URL]photoacompanhantes.com.br[/URL] and photoprepagos. Co and sexoservidora. Mx.) But the truth is a different one. Last night I was looking frantically for a quick blowjob before bedtime while in centro. And all these lovely chicks advertise there. But something smelled fishy whenever they said they were at Rua Avanhandava 459. Some of their auto-greetings on whatsapp were even exactly the same.
I had a super session with lovely and friendly girl down in Jabaquara before noon, so I was in very good mood. Let me get that out of the way. I am so happy. That girl works in a pretty frequented establishment, but me going in the morning evaded the crowd and had a chance of getting her fresh, unused in the morning. I usually have more interaction on WhatsApp (for good reasons that become clear below) with her I didn't, simply because I really liked her physique in the pictures, and her ad seemed real, the text less boiler plate and more personal...[/QUOTE]I had virtually the same experience with that same address. Classic bait and switch, completely diff girl. I did what you did, paid and left. I didn't blame the girl, she had no idea I was coming as we had never communicated. She is just there to service whomever arrives, and that service will be the bare min with zero skin to skin contact.
3 times after, "girls" gave me that address, when their ad had a different neighborhood, and I bailed each time.
That building is bad ju-ju.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2694329]I really don't get what y'all are going on about wearing special clothes and being all scared in Sampa. I've been in Jabaquara to Santana and it's just fine.
Even I thought Santana was iffy, but it has a few addresses that kept coming up, some Dr. Cesar 209 and Henrique Bernadelli 119. Now I checked personally, and they are all in fine commercial neighborhoods. No worries. I can't even find Cesar 209 as these are all fine stores. And the Bernadelli 119 is a pretty nice looking Villa. I'm trying to muster some hornyness to actually go in and try them out for you, but I don't feel the need.
Earlier I got annoyed by another scam (like nothing really bad, just totally not what's advertized. Then another one, which I saved my time by telling the person per WhatsApp straight on that I walk out if it's not what's advertized, and that got me no response and then a block. So I knew.
Anyway, Bernadelli 119, I would go visit if I'm in the mood. And don't worry so much.[/QUOTE]Was just checking Photoacom and one of the first girls ad was for Bernardelli 119, Juliana Sales is her post name.
She is a 9+, in my book anyway.
I highly doubt if I booked with her I would actually meet the girl in those photos there. Just too good to be true. But. I would really really love to live her, which makes me want to try even though I am pretty sure it's bait and switch. The mongers dilemma.
To the list, I would add.
The bombeiro shorts, which internash also got. They are super comfortable. And a bombeiro civil badge on a chain.
Even the least threatening ISGer I know here carries a blade. I would just suggest finding a good place to have it sharpened.
There's a logical list of escalation of force, all for defense.
A camera -- most criminals will go the other direction when photographed.
A smart phone to call uber, and the cops (190 in Rio, 192 for emergency medical, 193 for bombeiro). Knowing the numbers of local and your home company law enforcement who carry guns. Talking to your wingmen, even if only briefly -- if we run into a problem, call uber.
A flashlight.
The taser in the flashlight.
Leather gloves ($25 reais at casa de bombeiro).
I have been out with other ISGers with extensive MMA credentials who are victims of having their cell phones stolen at gunpoint in SP (not something I have heard of in RJ). While I respect your view, I am just saying that in the 6 seconds it takes for that thief coming down a business avenue in SP to decide to strike or not to strike, he can be persuaded to pick the next victim if you're wearing a Brazilian bombeiro shorts and a vasco / palmeiras Jersey, and a Brazilian lifeguard cap. I may or may not be right, and I haven't kept track of the attackers who have moved on and not attacked me because I had some Brazilian cloths on. Lastly, I live here, and am not just in for 3 days.
Knives are a interesting topic. I make it part of my boxing training a few times a week to hold the blade correctly, to adjust the lanyard so it fits around the leather gloves, etc. Most mongers are not trained, and do not train, just as most come in for short periods.
If you're paying 2000 reais a night for girls on short trips, there is no point in robbing you; quite the contrary, its better to just let you rob yourself kkk.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2694339]Exactly. This is how I dress whether I am in rio or in SP or anywhere else in the world. I don't feel the need to wear clothes to try to match the locals.
Please do not wear any MMA shirts or jiu jitsu shirts if you don't know or train those arts. Not only will someone try to test you and once they find out that you aren't in shape or know anything about fighting, they will take advantage. Take it from me. I laugh at those fat jokers who wear those shirts. I can tell within 5 secs by the way you walk and talk if you know anything about self defense. I have trained for over 12 years in close quarter combat martial arts and am a black belt in BJJ so I know how to avoid confrontation at all costs. Do not carry a knife with you unless you are trained in using it. The last thing you want is to have it taken away and used on you but the other guy..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2694389]To the list, I would add.
The bombeiro shorts, which internash also got. They are super comfortable. And a bombeiro civil badge on a chain.
Even the least threatening ISGer I know here carries a blade. I would just suggest finding a good place to have it sharpened.
There's a logical list of escalation of force, all for defense.
A camera -- most criminals will go the other direction when photographed.
A smart phone to call uber, and the cops (190 in Rio, 192 for emergency medical, 193 for bombeiro). Knowing the numbers of local and your home company law enforcement who carry guns. Talking to your wingmen, even if only briefly -- if we run into a problem, call uber.
A flashlight.
The taser in the flashlight.
Leather gloves ($25 reais at casa de bombeiro).
I have been out with other ISGers with extensive MMA credentials who are victims of having their cell phones stolen at gunpoint in SP (not something I have heard of in RJ). While I respect your view, I am just saying that in the 6 seconds it takes for that thief coming down a business avenue in SP to decide to strike or not to strike, he can be persuaded to pick the next victim if you're wearing a Brazilian bombeiro shorts and a vasco / palmeiras Jersey, and a Brazilian lifeguard cap. I may or may not be right, and I haven't kept track of the attackers who have moved on and not attacked me because I had some Brazilian cloths on. Lastly, I live here, and am not just in for 3 days.
Knives are a interesting topic. I make it part of my boxing training a few times a week to hold the blade correctly, to adjust the lanyard so it fits around the leather gloves, etc. Most mongers are not trained, and do not train, just as most come in for short periods.
If you're paying 2000 reais a night for girls on short trips, there is no point in robbing you; quite the contrary, its better to just let you rob yourself kkk.[/QUOTE]There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP. So, if one lives in Brazil and fucks the favela girls. Good for him. If a monger comes to town and fucks the top end Scandello girls and pays 2 k per night (which BTW I have never done) . Good for him. It is the CHOICE of the person with the cash in hand. Neither is better or worse.
I will tell you what. Next time I am in town, we will set up a tour of the places you go to to see what I can find. I won't go to 4 x4, and I will meet you at whatever place you frequent and see what plays out. I will also wear normal clothes while you dress like a "Brazilian" and let's see if I get robbed or attacked.
With all respect, Senor Anaggie, according to your own reports, you've paid 3200 reais for 4 girls in 8 hours at 4 x4, you've paid a girl 2000 reais per night (gave her a iphone which cost 800 USD in the states for 2 nights) to take her to buzios, not counting the cost of lodging. I list the places I go very often in both SP and RJ -- the tier 1 clinicas and prives, which are 250 meters from 4 x4, and the cost is 150 r per hour or 250 per hour in RJ. It's easy to find the list of the prives / clinicas from my reports, or you can go to [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and click on prives. I'm doing the same girls from 4 x4 and tier 1 termas, but I never pay more than 500 are a night, and some of them I do for 25 pernoites for months, basically because I live here, and I don't session in the termas, rather I just get them back to my place.
A very large percentage of the girls in 4 x4 are from favelas, and a large number of the girls from tier 1 termas go to Mosaico, ie, Vila Mimosa, at midnight if they haven't made enough money, and their cost per fuck goes down by half (from 400 per hour to 200 per hour). Even the girls from out of town, like Penelope, who work at 4 x4 end up going into favelas to socialize. Moreover, Copacabana, where most mongers stay, is so dangerous because it is in a favela or many of them.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2694444]There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP. So, if one lives in Brazil and fucks the favela girls. Good for him. If a monger comes to town and fucks the top end Scandello girls and pays 2 k per night (which BTW I have never done) . Good for him. It is the CHOICE of the person with the cash in hand. Neither is better or worse.
I will tell you what. Next time I am in town, we will set up a tour of the places you go to to see what I can find. I won't go to 4 x4, and I will meet you at whatever place you frequent and see what plays out. I will also wear normal clothes while you dress like a "Brazilian" and let's see if I get robbed or attacked.[/QUOTE]
There's a map from the economist. It has a section titled the location of favelas.
There are 3 enlargements.
Copa, which is in the middle of favelas, where most mongers, including Senor Anaggie stay. It's right there in your reports.
Centro / 4 x 4, in the middle of favelas.
Barra the Tijuca, which is not in favelas, in fact is the only area in Rio outside of the favelas.
[URL]https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2021/08/14/rio-de-janeiro-asks-why-its-cops-kill-so-many-black-people[/URL]
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2694444]There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP. So, if one lives in Brazil and fucks the favela girls. Good for him. If a monger comes to town and fucks the top end Scandello girls and pays 2 k per night (which BTW I have never done) . Good for him. It is the choice of the person with the cash in hand. Neither is better or worse.
I will tell you what. Next time I am in town, we will set up a tour of the places you go to to see what I can find. I won't go to 4 x4, and I will meet you at whatever place you frequent and see what plays out. I will also wear normal clothes while you dress like a "Brazilian" and let's see if I get robbed or attacked.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2694444]There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP...[/QUOTE]One will pay more when one's time is worth more because if you can convert time to money he will save money when he pays for the convenience to save time. That is how I look at it.
How do you tell what is low class in Scandallo? I don't think you can. Although I think I know what you mean but you are not making the right comparison in this case based on your reason. Many girls starting out from the Scandello shared apartment nearby. Those girls fit into your low class description but do you not pick these girls if they tell you where they live? They also evolve so eventually they may have an apartment on their own, and that makes them high class? I have sat between these girls and heard them bad mouth other girls from time to time. One time a girl mentioned she lived in an apartment on her own, and the other girl asked her to share her apartment with her. The other girl was actually way hotter than the girl with apartment. Personally, I will pick the hotter girl. I probably can get her cheaper too.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2694531]With all respect, Senor Anaggie, according to your own reports, you've paid 3200 reais for 4 girls in 8 hours at 4 x4, you've paid a girl 2000 reais per night (gave her a iphone which cost 800 USD in the states for 2 nights) to take her to buzios, not counting the cost of lodging. I list the places I go very often in both SP and RJ -- the tier 1 clinicas and prives, which are 250 meters from 4 x4, and the cost is 150 r per hour or 250 per hour in RJ. It's easy to find the list of the prives / clinicas from my reports, or you can go to [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and click on prives. I'm doing the same girls from 4 x4 and tier 1 termas, but I never pay more than 500 are a night, and some of them I do for 25 pernoites for months, basically because I live here, and I don't session in the termas, rather I just get them back to my place.
A very large percentage of the girls in 4 x4 are from favelas, and a large number of the girls from tier 1 termas go to Mosaico, ie, Vila Mimosa, at midnight if they haven't made enough money, and their cost per fuck goes down by half (from 400 per hour to 200 per hour). Even the girls from out of town, like Penelope, who work at 4 x4 end up going into favelas to socialize. Moreover, Copacabana, where most mongers stay, is so dangerous because it is in a favela or many of them.[/QUOTE]Let's just get the math worked out.
3200 for 4 different girls in one night at 4 x4 . One session was a threesome in a bigger suite and that also included all the drinks for myself and the girls who I was talking with. All BBFS sessions except the first one which I had to get out of the way to blow the first wad.
The buzios chick was THREE nights (one in RJ and two in Buzios) for $800 not including lodging which I would have to pay for whether in SP / Rio / Buzios so that is a sunk cost. She was definitely an 8+ from Scandello and it was sex on demand all weekend.
So. Still haven't hit 2 k per night.
Am I paying more than you? OF COURSE. . You fucking live there. That has been agreed on this board over and over again. And in your favor. The issue is that you keep telling people how to do it YOUR way as if that is the only way.
Live and let live. My man.
I follow a philosophy that Bruce Lee followed whenever you learn something or get new information:
"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own. ".
[QUOTE=Nounce;2694606]One will pay more when one's time is worth more because if you can convert time to money he will save money when he pays for the convenience to save time. That is how I look at it.
How do you tell what is low class in Scandallo? I don't think you can. Although I think I know what you mean but you are not making the right comparison in this case based on your reason. Many girls starting out from the Scandello shared apartment nearby. Those girls fit into your low class description but do you not pick these girls if they tell you where they live? They also evolve so eventually they may have an apartment on their own, and that makes them high class? I have sat between these girls and heard them bad mouth other girls from time to time. One time a girl mentioned she lived in an apartment on her own, and the other girl asked her to share her apartment with her. The other girl was actually way hotter than the girl with apartment. Personally, I will pick the hotter girl. I probably can get her cheaper too.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Maybe I am not making the right comparison. I am sure they all have started from the bottom but they have become more cultured and classy. I just don't see that in the Rio boates. It is the same quality year in year out. In fact, I feel it has gotten worse lately. I now use rio as a place to blow the first pent up load and then use SP to truly enjoy the women. Plus, I need to maintain my relationship with my agent and he likes taking me to 4 X4 so there is that.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2694646]I follow a philosophy that Bruce Lee followed whenever you learn something or get new information:
"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own..[/QUOTE]Very good advice when it comes to mongering, or anything else for that matter.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2694646]Let's just get the math worked out.
3200 for 4 different girls in one night at 4 x4 . One session was a threesome in a bigger suite and that also included all the drinks for myself and the girls who I was talking with. All BBFS sessions except the first one which I had to get out of the way to blow the first wad.
The buzios chick was THREE nights (one in RJ and two in Buzios) for $800 not including lodging which I would have to pay for whether in SP / Rio / Buzios so that is a sunk cost. She was definitely an 8+ from Scandello and it was sex on demand all weekend.
So. Still haven't hit 2 k per night.
Am I paying more than you? OF COURSE. . You fucking live there. That has been agreed on this board over and over again. And in your favor. The issue is that you keep telling people how to do it YOUR way as if that is the only way.
Live and let live. My man.
I follow a philosophy that Bruce Lee followed whenever you learn something or get new information:
"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own. ".[/QUOTE]Can't go back and edit. Since it just hit me. I am taking the 2 k per night as 2 k for one girl per night. VB might mean it as spending 2 k in one night. If that is case, then definitely I am guilty of thag .. in more ways than one😜
[QUOTE=Lonster;2694363]Hey Stinky
I too have been curious about Bernardelli 119. Most here seem to think it is a bait and switch type place as those woman we see using that address on Photoacom won't actually be there when one arrives for their session, and will be offered other girls.
I am on the fence as to go, as it is a hike for me, and don't want to get there expecting to meet a hottie from the site only to be offered something else. But the hotness of the girls advertising with that address is enticing.[/QUOTE]I would not expetct any of them to be there, but rather just go and see what lineup they have. I just did a mass contact campaign to dozens of these and the first challenge is getting them to respond at all. Especially today on Mother's day. Brazilians take their Foobar day very seriously. I remember when I first set foot on Brazil it was mother's day and I struggled to get anyone to come and it wasn't good. My 12 year Brazil anniversary, need to accomplish something special today. So I messaged like 50 or so with a special request. Now we'll see what comes in until the early afternoon when I will commit. I'd be more than willing to go back to Santana and try this address.
I have one night here, tonight, Mother's Day.
Meeting my main babe for drinks near Baixa Augusta around 9 pm, then going to give Casarão another shot, probably getting there around 11. If any mongers are around, let's kickit'.
I am a 50 something gringo, 6' tall, will be wearing jeans, nice collared shirt with a dark blue jacket.
Don't plan on banging a chick there tonight, just a night cap to scope for future mongering.
Lonnie.
The next time you're in Rio.
Take your agent to.
[URL]Massagemtijuca.com.br[/URL]
Next to Maracana stadium.
Perola negra.
Ave de pepe 400.
Mosaico after midnight.
Praca bandeira.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2694668]Can't go back and edit. Since it just hit me. I am taking the 2 k per night as 2 k for one girl per night. VB might mean it as spending 2 k in one night. If that is case, then definitely I am guilty of thag .. in more ways than one😜[/QUOTE]
While you're all going gaga over Rio and being scared of shit in Sampa, I managed to get on the agenda of the famous Isis in the Discovery Hotel, Santana. Getting an appointment with that garota is like teeth pulling, only Neca Santos is more difficult. But now that I did it for you, I saved you the effort, because in my view this is totally not worth it. I, being a deepthroat fanatic had to check this off my list, but I am now relieved that it's done and I don't have to struggle about getting an appointment with her ever again! The problem with that girl is that she regards her service as a technique which she administers like surgery. There is none of that interaction that's part of a deepthroat program, she won't even let you touch her head, and you think going to a specialist spares you complaints? Think again! The only thing good about her is she's cheap. Getting serviced by a cheap girl has a special meaning to it, so I could still sort of enjoy and not get hung up on the disappointed. But man, my time with my pornstarlet friend GiPaes remains in my memory. She was expensive, but worth it. And it's not that you get what you pay for, no, but there are just different kinds of girls. And then the Mineiras are so friendly. If you go on GiPaes' onlyfans you can even see some video "production" that we did, that comes out of my sick mind. Haha. So now you know who not to run after and who you might want to try and catch a session with before she moves away to the UK. It's like with Kelly Oliveira, missed her by about a year and now that gal is in Berlin taking 1000 euros for the session. But boy, what a loss not having known her whenshe was still in RJ! Now I have one final todo item on my check list, and that's Neca Santos. I already told her I will have to give her a spanking if ever I actually get to meet her, just for the way she gave me a hard time. But after today with Isis, I can also rest relaxed that often all those imaginations are not what's really in store anyway when it's your turn in the waiting list, if only there was a waiting list! Getting a ride with Neca Santos is harder than buying a confirmed train ticket in India.
[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/o-melhor-oral-da-sua-vida-isis-garganta-profunda-id-8hy7e[/URL]
As of date, does Brazil and the US still require negative test when bording flights? Thanks.
"Class" is a broad term. Could be "socio-economic" class. "educated" class. "character" class. Etc etc. For me character is the most important.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2694606]One will pay more when one's time is worth more because if you can convert time to money he will save money when he pays for the convenience to save time. That is how I look at it.
How do you tell what is low class in Scandallo? I don't think you can. Although I think I know what you mean but you are not making the right comparison in this case based on your reason. Many girls starting out from the Scandello shared apartment nearby. Those girls fit into your low class description but do you not pick these girls if they tell you where they live? They also evolve so eventually they may have an apartment on their own, and that makes them high class? I have sat between these girls and heard them bad mouth other girls from time to time. One time a girl mentioned she lived in an apartment on her own, and the other girl asked her to share her apartment with her. The other girl was actually way hotter than the girl with apartment. Personally, I will pick the hotter girl. I probably can get her cheaper too.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2694671]I So I messaged like 50 or so with a special request. Now we'll see what comes in until the early afternoon when I will commit. I'd be more than willing to go back to Santana and try this address.[/QUOTE]Of my dozens of messages, more than half were not received until the nightfall. Of those that were received, more than half were not seen. Of those that were seen, about half were replied to. One was cordial, two were nice but boilerplate excuses that they aren't there today, but I should go and ask for a line up.
Since I had my session with the Isis, the oral surgeon 🤪, I was in the area at night, walked by, but didn't go in. The villa 119 is really pretty, and I'd say totally worth a visit. Don't get hung up on any one of the ads, just go and look. I felt zero unsafety in the area even at night. It's super close to the Metro. One of the girls told me there would be about 7 there that afternoon, and it was probably the worst date of the year to go looking for mongering. Oh, and as I walked that street I saw the redhead walk by she looked quite like in the ad, didn't see her tattoos to confirm, but I'm sure it was her and the checks out about same age of face to the ad. So this is all I can do to clear this place as worth going to. It's also cheap, 100 for the girl, 40 for the room. Take 2 girls for 240? I mean what could possibly go wrong with that? Again, it's a really nice looking place.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2695107]Of my dozens of messages, more than half were not received until the nightfall. Of those that were received, more than half were not seen. Of those that were seen, about half were replied to. One was cordial, two were nice but boilerplate excuses that they aren't there today, but I should go and ask for a line up.
Since I had my session with the Isis, the oral surgeon 🤪, I was in the area at night, walked by, but didn't go in. The villa 119 is really pretty, and I'd say totally worth a visit. Don't get hung up on any one of the ads, just go and look. I felt zero unsafety in the area even at night. It's super close to the Metro. One of the girls told me there would be about 7 there that afternoon, and it was probably the worst date of the year to go looking for mongering. Oh, and as I walked that street I saw the redhead walk by she looked quite like in the ad, didn't see her tattoos to confirm, but I'm sure it was her and the checks out about same age of face to the ad. So this is all I can do to clear this place as worth going to. It's also cheap, 100 for the girl, 40 for the room. Take 2 girls for 240? I mean what could possibly go wrong with that? Again, it's a really nice looking place.[/QUOTE]Great post, great Intel. Thanks.
I will be back in 2 weeks, it is now firmly on the list.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2695009]As of date, does Brazil and the US still require negative test when bording flights? Thanks.[/QUOTE]If vaccinated, no test for entry into Brazil.
USA still requires test ONE day before your departure flight. Note. It is one day and not 24 hours.
Leaving tonight, was just 1 night.
Saw main babe, just drinks and a lot of DFK.
Went on a bit of a pub crawl solo down Augusta, was fun.
Stopped at Casarão, met a monger named Goerge, good dude.
You all were right, it doesn't get hopping until past midnight.
Music still sucked though. Some decent talent, I bought a few beers for me, 1 for George and two drinks for the two girls I spoke to. Cost was 310 reis, so kinda pricey, but maybe the two drinks for the girls were really high, I didn't ask or see a receipt.
Didn't session, but got a phone number from one of the girls, very tall morena, very sexy, thin like I prefer. The other one was similar, had really sexy long legs, but didn't shave them. I kinda had to look hard to make sure she wasn't a trans as her legs were that hairy. Was there about an hour and a half.
Not sure if I will go back. I stopped at the others next door to it in the past, those really sucked. Casarão is very close, and in Baixa Augusta, which I like pub crawling on, so prob will drop in again.
Back in 2 weeks, going to finally try Scandello.
Had a lunch date will Cleo Schmidt, she faked.
Not sure what's up with her, she is super fine, sext and GFE, but very flakey, and has zero sense of time, always late. She also comes from an Evangelical household, doesn't believe in vaccination or that the world is round. I am going to jettison her, which makes me sad as I kinda am in love with her.
I have helped her financially, other than the sessioning, yet she can't get her sheet together, got evicted, was staying with her sister but she got tired if her, and she was in a friend's coach.
She is having terrible financial problems, so what does she do, goes out and buys a dog. She is whacko. Her profile on Photoacom has been marked as non available for awhile. If it come back on, she is hot, very nice body, good in bed, but prob best to keep it at that. We did have some fun nights together.
Later all.
Any place you guys recommend for a same day STD test? Also do the places here send results on the phone so you can save them?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2695179]If vaccinated, no test for entry into Brazil.
USA still requires test ONE day before your departure flight. Note. It is one day and not 24 hours.[/QUOTE]
I wish I had had time to go to Santana tonight but I'm at Guarulhos to fly away. Last session with a girl who said she's in Guarulhos and then comes from Bela Vista. And while I enjoyed her shape, it was all different from what was explicitly agreed. The excuse was that I only talked with a coordinator. So another agency shit. Of 320 she says she only gets 100. It was rushed. It was stupid. I'm alright but still, once again you don't get what you pay for, you get what decent girl you have and if you talk with her not some yes-man. I was arguing all afternoon with another cutie who we had a chemistry over messaging and then fell out over her attempt to overcharge me. That one was real, but it was not to be.
I had the impression that those Santana 119 girls you actually talk with them. And at 140 its not bad.
Ha, I walked by a prostibulo in centro Guarulhos next to Guto's Churrasco place, where 15 min sessions are advertized for 30 reais. I wasn't in the mood at that time so I didn't check out the lineup. But when sex is bad, I can cherish the fact that it's cheap, kind of turns me on. Rsrsrs
So my question to you is: how many all around pleasant experience do you have for how many so-so bad ones?
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2694389]To the list, I would add.
The bombeiro shorts, which internash also got. They are super comfortable. And a bombeiro civil badge on a chain..[/QUOTE]V1, why exactly do visitors have to camouflage themselves in Vasco or bombeiro gear in SP? Is it an unsafe war zone all of a sudden?
Also what does Kamila Werneck info from 2014 have to really do with Scandallo?
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2695344]I wish I had had time to go to Santana tonight but I'm at Guarulhos to fly away. Last session with a girl who said she's in Guarulhos and then comes from Bela Vista. And while I enjoyed her shape, it was all different from what was explicitly agreed. The excuse was that I only talked with a coordinator. So another agency shit. Of 320 she says she only gets 100. It was rushed. It was stupid. I'm alright but still, once again you don't get what you pay for, you get what decent girl you have and if you talk with her not some yes-man. I was arguing all afternoon with another cutie who we had a chemistry over messaging and then fell out over her attempt to overcharge me. That one was real, but it was not to be.
I had the impression that those Santana 119 girls you actually talk with them. And at 140 its not bad.
Ha, I walked by a prostibulo in centro Guarulhos next to Guto's Churrasco place, where 15 min sessions are advertized for 30 reais. I wasn't in the mood at that time so I didn't check out the lineup. But when sex is bad, I can cherish the fact that it's cheap, kind of turns me on. Rsrsrs
So my question to you is: how many all around pleasant experience do you have for how many so-so bad ones?[/QUOTE]I am batting around. 333, pretty got in the MLB, kinda bad for mongering. I have to re-evaluate my plate approach, I need to start looking for my pitch, and not swing at ones out of my strike zone. I would rather not session, than session with a girl I am not into. Photoacom is great for ease of use and time, but way to many pitches outside of the zone.
The girl I got the num from at Casarão responded, she is def in my strike zone. She might not give GFE, but at least I am sure she is real and I'm attracted to her.
My new plate approach will be to go to places, Scandello, Casarão, Bernadalli 119, and meet first. It isn't expensive to look, and if it goes further, I am at least with a girl I am into sexually, so only thing is GFE. I think this new approach will up my odds.
[QUOTE=GordyGekko;2695345].......why exactly do visitors have to camouflage themselves in Vasco or bombeiro gear in SP?[/QUOTE]While shooting for TV and film, Brazilian casting directors like to pull people wearing Brazilian football and bombeiro gear from the crowd. It gives the shoot a local feel. So if you want your face on camera.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2694892]While you're all going gaga over Rio and being scared of shit in Sampa, I managed to get on the agenda of the famous Isis in the Discovery Hotel, Santana. Getting an appointment with that garota is like teeth pulling, only Neca Santos is more difficult. But now that I did it for you, I saved you the effort, because in my view this is totally not worth it. I, being a deepthroat fanatic had to check this off my list, but I am now relieved that it's done and I don't have to struggle about getting an appointment with her ever again! The problem with that girl is that she regards her service as a technique which she administers like surgery. There is none of that interaction that's part of a deepthroat program, she won't even let you touch her head, and you think going to a specialist spares you complaints? Think again! The only thing good about her is she's cheap. Getting serviced by a cheap girl has a special meaning to it, so I could still sort of enjoy and not get hung up on the disappointed. But man, my time with my pornstarlet friend GiPaes remains in my memory. She was expensive, but worth it. And it's not that you get what you pay for, no, but there are just different kinds of girls. And then the Mineiras are so friendly. If you go on GiPaes' onlyfans you can even see some video "production" that we did, that comes out of my sick mind. Haha. So now you know who not to run after and who you might want to try and catch a session with before she moves away to the UK. It's like with Kelly Oliveira, missed her by about a year and now that gal is in Berlin taking 1000 euros for the session. But boy, what a loss not having known her whenshe was still in RJ! Now I have one final todo item on my check list, and that's Neca Santos. I already told her I will have to give her a spanking if ever I actually get to meet her, just for the way she gave me a hard time. But after today with Isis, I can also rest relaxed that often all those imaginations are not what's really in store anyway when it's your turn in the waiting list, if only there was a waiting list! Getting a ride with Neca Santos is harder than buying a confirmed train ticket in India.
[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/o-melhor-oral-da-sua-vida-isis-garganta-profunda-id-8hy7e[/URL][/QUOTE]Kelly Oliviera! You bring back good memories. I did two pernoites with her and she was an absolute champ. There was nothing off the table and she let me film and even held the phone herself at times to capture better angles. Gipaes is the one I missed and always wanted to try. My biggest frustration is onlyfans. The hotter girls need to session less as the simps will pay subscription for their videos (girls don't even need to move to Berlin to stop working). I do not know one person who pays for an only fans subscription and yet so many girls make good money from it. To make the world a better place we should collectively stop paying for onlyfans and request anyone we know with a subscription to stop.
[QUOTE=ThatDudeThere;2695563]Kelly Oliviera! You bring back good memories. I did two pernoites with her and she was an absolute champ. There was nothing off the table and she let me film and even held the phone herself at times to capture better angles. Gipaes is the one I missed and always wanted to try. My biggest frustration is onlyfans. The hotter girls need to session less as the simps will pay subscription for their videos (girls don't even need to move to Berlin to stop working). I do not know one person who pays for an only fans subscription and yet so many girls make good money from it. To make the world a better place we should collectively stop paying for onlyfans and request anyone we know with a subscription to stop.[/QUOTE]Dammit, hearing you tell those memories is like a punch in the stomach. Dammit, you rascal! But GiPaes is still around. Just came back to SP. If you're there you can meet. Now tell me, how much was the pernoite with Kelly?
BTW I agree that onlyfans and shit like that is detrimental to our hobby. I was on GiPaes'only for a short while, sorta as a friendship gift, then conveniently my credit card was cancelled. I only mentioned onlyfans because of the sick video clips we put there. But dammit, Kelly Oliveira is such a freak and I missed her. I can't get over that! When where you with her?
[QUOTE=Lonster;2695512]
My new plate approach will be to go to places, Scandello, Casaro, Bernadalli 119, and meet first. It isn't expensive to look, and if it goes further, I am at least with a girl I am into sexually, so only thing is GFE. I think this new approach will up my odds.[/QUOTE]Is there even anywhere on the planet where you're sure not to be subject to bait and switch, agency overpromising, photoshopping etc. And no matter your research when you open the door, it could be a whale or your grandmother with an attitude. Its perfectly possibly to get lucky on an incall, but statistics doesn't work in your favor.
For this very reason I have always preferred what you see is what you get. You may not get GFE, but you will have an idea if theres chemistry and at least someone that actually turn you on.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2695622]Dammit, hearing you tell those memories is like a punch in the stomach. Dammit, you rascal! But GiPaes is still around. Just came back to SP. If you're there you can meet. Now tell me, how much was the pernoite with Kelly?[/QUOTE]Had to dig up the messages to check as it's been a while. It was 900 pernoite with everything included (I don't BBFS) but rimming, deep throat, CIM / face, videotaping. I also recall she ordered food for herself and paid herself and she ordered sushi which ended up being like 1/3 of her earnings kkkkkkkk. Gipaes doesn't look as good but seems like a top performer. She actually doesn't have her WhatsApp up on her Twitter currently.
I should note that the 900 was during peak pandemic when real was at its cheapest vs hard currency. Was a good time!
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2695647]BTW I agree that onlyfans and shit like that is detrimental to our hobby. I was on GiPaes'only for a short while, sorta as a friendship gift, then conveniently my credit card was cancelled. I only mentioned onlyfans because of the sick video clips we put there. But dammit, Kelly Oliveira is such a freak and I missed her. I can't get over that! When where you with her?[/QUOTE]Fourth quarter of 2020.
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2695665]Is there even anywhere on the planet where you're sure not to be subject to bait and switch, agency overpromising, photoshopping etc. And no matter your research when you open the door, it could be a whale or your grandmother with an attitude. Its perfectly possibly to get lucky on an incall, but statistics doesn't work in your favor.
For this very reason I have always preferred what you see is what you get. You may not get GFE, but you will have an idea if there's chemistry and at least someone that actually turn you on.[/QUOTE]There are countries where the girl websites are super advanced, have many many reviews and if you know how to navigate the chance of bait and switch falls to less than 1%. Not only that but if you mention to the girl you are a reviewer they will try extra hard. Had one girl cancel last second, told her I have many reviews and will review her for cancellation. She apologized and came to attend. The benefit with online vs in person is you can negotiate additional services much better. I am referring to more specific stuff than just anal.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2695512]I am batting around. 333, pretty got in the MLB, kinda bad for mongering. I have to re-evaluate my plate approach, I need to start looking for my pitch, and not swing at ones out of my strike zone. I would rather not session, than session with a girl I am not into. Photoacom is great for ease of use and time, but way to many pitches outside of the zone.
The girl I got the num from at Casaro responded, she is def in my strike zone. She might not give GFE, but at least I am sure she is real and I'm attracted to her.
My new plate approach will be to go to places, Scandello, Casaro, Bernadalli 119, and meet first. It isn't expensive to look, and if it goes further, I am at least with a girl I am into sexually, so only thing is GFE. I think this new approach will up my odds.[/QUOTE]For GFE book longer sessions (after test drive), have nice accommodations, drinks, etc.
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2695665]Is there even anywhere on the planet where you're sure not to be subject to bait and switch, agency overpromising, photoshopping etc. And no matter your research when you open the door, it could be a whale or your grandmother with an attitude. Its perfectly possibly to get lucky on an incall, but statistics doesn't work in your favor.[/QUOTE]You have to turn the stats in your favor. Do some research. Most of the guys who strikeout a lot and have bad experiences like to lazily catalog shop from photos on the internet. Book appointments with the tried and true girls who have a book of solid reviews.
If one doesn't find a hot girl with 70 local reviews (69 are overwhelmingly positive, one guy complains she didn't wear high heels) appealing, that's their problem. If one believes he is "boldly going where no man has gone before", I've got news for you most of these girls have been with hundreds and hundreds of guys. Your chance of finding a smokin' hot, new girl at a low price on your one week trip to Sao Paulo are very slim.
There's a time and place for a boate or clinica line-up. And there's a time and place for incall / outcall escorts. I've had great incall / outcall experiences. I think one sexy Brasileira incall escort had a lot of garlic for lunch so that killed the kissing. And I have also enjoyed the venues where there are many girls right in front of you to choose.
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2695665]Is there even anywhere on the planet where you're sure not to be subject to bait and switch, agency overpromising, photoshopping etc.[/QUOTE]It's the only place I've been where I have not suffered from the old bait and switcheroo. I don't deal with escort agencies that much (for this very reason), but every time I have in Brazil, the goods have been properly and timely delivered. Stick with the best reviewed agencies with a strong internet presence where the girls have to pay to have a profile on the site, and you will do better. I have yet to be disappointed in Brazil (and in Brazil only).
[QUOTE=Lonster;2695512]I am batting around. 333, pretty got in the MLB, kinda bad for mongering. I have to re-evaluate my plate approach.[/QUOTE]Every guy has different mongering styles and some guys love the hunt. But if you are averaging a lot of bad sessions, you got to switch it up. A lot of guys on this forum have said they never had a bad session on Brazil. Me personally, my bad session rate is maybe 10%. New guys to SP should read the last 6 months of the SP thread. Lots of good advice here for all cost levels.
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2695665]Is there even anywhere on the planet where you're sure not to be subject to bait and switch, agency overpromising, photoshopping etc.[/QUOTE]Don't Get mad. Prevent from getting taken advantage of.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2695683]You have to turn the stats in your favor. Do some research. [b]Most of the guys who strikeout a lot and have bad experiences like to lazily catalog shop from photos on the internet.[/b][/QUOTE]When your interviewing online resources you are typically in control of the conversation. Each party can end the conversation easily with no repercussions. However if the conversations results in face to face meeting then all good. But it is you who sets the tempo.
[QUOTE=ThatDudeThere;2695675][B]Not only that but if you mention to the girl you are a reviewer they will try extra hard.[/B] Had one girl cancel last second, told her [b]I have many reviews and will review her for cancellation[/b]. [i]She apologized and came to attend[/i].[/QUOTE]For anyone relying on or planning to use any online resources especially photoacompanhantes, you should sign up for an account on [URL]https://www.gparena.net/[/URL] or [URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/.[/URL] You go to Brasil enough review everyone and also post on this forum as well. Establish credibility.
At some point during your initial contact with the online resource generally via WhatsApp you should inform the GP that you review all interactions with GPS. This will hopefully put them on notice that any shenanigans won't be tolerated and hopefully should reduce the Bait&Switch. (When reviewing be sure to post picture or links of the GP on site). Ask for either up close or full length cell phone picture if your are sure photoshopping was employed on photos. Most of my contacts either sent current photos or videos voluntary "Proof of Life" LOL. To show they were legitimate. So I have not had a issue with online resources and hopefully some of my employed tradecraft will keep it that way.
No one wants bad reviews and this may keep GPS honest (or at least the Agency or Man behind the computer screen honest) because you really don't know who is on the other side of the Computer / Whatsapp line.
If you do experience Bait&Switch and or bad performance do a quick review to determine if you failed to employ a technique or did something to allow it to happen and develop corrective actions to mitigate further occurrences.
From the Sosua Forum.
[QUOTE=Confiable;2695721] It's always enough girls that are fine with the going rate. You always going to have some girls ask for more than the going rate. It might be because people are paying her that price or[b] it might be that she really don't like you (appearance, age, or weight) and she gave you an outrageous price[/b]. Every women is different. [i]But we have the power to walk away or pay it.[/i][/QUOTE]I had a GP walk up to me and we had a good convo and since I was interested I started inquiring about rates. She said some "out of the money quote" so I said you must not like me and started to walk away. (bear in mind she came to me) so she grabbed my hand and she said "I do like you", I said "well not by your price you don't and stated I frequently visit the area for work and vacations and she was quoting Gringo rates". She relented quick and quoted her so called "minimum' which was below what I would have countered if I had opened my mouth. Good thing I wasn't quick to negotiate with a counter rate. It turned out to be one of my best encounters.
Develop techniques or learn tradecraft to get what you want and minimize any potential downside angles. In many cases GPS agenda is not your agenda.
Reminds me of that Pimp saying "Only You Can Prevent.. ".
I was 10 days in SP last month arriving easter week on Thursday. Spent the first night with a previous 20 something contact from Scandallo whom I had already setup a date with before. Next day Friday all the clubs were closed but tried Bahamas and it was open. As soon as I walked in ran into the 21 yr old redhead from last trip. Played some pool and had drinks with her and then took her back to the hotel 2 K plus bar fine haha. Saturday was a repeat with a brunette from Scandallo who I just called over to the hotel and Sunday it was a branca from Bomboa from a previous trip also called her over to the hotel - 2 k and 1. 5 K respectively but no bar fines haha. Monday was late lunch at Fogo de Chao and early evening frolicking with a Scandallo girl with whom I had spent a week in Feb in Mexico and late evening was a repeat with the brunette from Scandallo who came over to the hotel. Tuesday I picked up a 30 yr old branca from Cafe foto who spent the next two days with me including going with me to Guaruja for a day trip. Thursday I hooked up with a girl from Tinder who spent a few hours with me having dinner and some time at the hotel but she kept insisting on a gift so I gave her 1 K. Next day she texted me to meet again. She was probably a 7 and not so bad in the bed but I felt that she was just being greedy when nothing was discussed about the gift prior and so ignored her. I don't remember about Friday but Saturday was a blast and it was my last day in SP before my return. I went early to Scandallo around 5 pm and after about a couple of hours or so got my first hit. There were these two girls 20 and 21 approx. (both easily 8+ in my book) hanging around together and as they went past my table in the patio I smiled and waved at them. They came over and joined me. Next thing we were heading to the room upstairs spent a hot hour of action with them. 600 each. Subsequently ran into a local SP girl probably 8-9 range and after a couple of drinks took her to the room 700 are. Later on that night after a 2nd attempt got this gorgeous early 20's redhead to drink with me. It was Sunday early morning when we headed back to my hotel. She was a blast in the bed so the 2. 5 K was totally worth it to me considering I had to bargain her down from 4 K or something and it was my last night in SP. Next day Sunday my flight was late evening so I managed to call over another scandallo brunette who I had met on my first trip back in Sept 21. She was really very good and I wondered to myself how come I never repeated with her in subsequent trips as I used to see her quite often during my several Scandallo trips since. Anyways this trip it was all good and no hiccups. Although I did not go to any clinicas or such this time, just the boates and my previous contacts. My next trip is planned for July Yeah!!
[QUOTE=Lonster;2695512]I am batting around. 333, pretty got in the MLB, kinda bad for mongering. I have to re-evaluate my plate approach.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2695730]Every guy has different mongering styles and some guys love the hunt. [b]But if you are averaging a lot of bad sessions, you got to switch it up.[/b] A lot of guys on this forum have said they never had a bad session on Brazil. Me personally, my bad session rate is maybe 10%. [b][i]New guys to SP should read the last 6 months of the SP thread.[/i][/b] Lots of good advice here for all cost levels.[/QUOTE]Sometimes having real conversations regarding approach may elicit solutions or having an experienced wingman may help.
Just wondering.
Anyone know know where I can find a girl named Kelly Medeiros?
She has done some porn. And I spent some good times with her in Sao Paulo about 2 years ago.
Can't find her anywhere anymore.
If she has changed her life. Happy for her.
Would just like to know if anyone knows if she's still available to be contacted.
[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/namoradinha-de-luxo-irei-te-levar-a-outro-nivel-de-prazer-id-3v2qr[/URL]
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2695730]... A lot of guys on this forum have said they never had a bad session on Brazil. Me personally, my bad session rate is maybe 10%...[/QUOTE]Ten percent is a minimal bad session rate in any country, and it is a very good rate at that. It is also my bad session rate in Brazil. Regarding incalls, I arrange my own incalls with some clinica girls. I pay exactly the same as I would at the clinica but I get the girl earlier in the day which is what I want as my testosterone falls off a cliff in late afternoon. Girls like to visit me before clinica opening time, especially if my hotel lies along the ride they take to the clinica (ie not on the other side of town). If you a a late fucker, you may want to try getting the girl to visit you on her way home from the clinica.
I had 2 Scandallo girls stopping by at my hotel on their way to Scandallo. I had paid them 600 at Scandallo (+ the room). One of the two agreed to 400 incall, the other one stuck to 600 if my memory serves me right. That was back in 2020 just before the vaccines were deployed.
[QUOTE=XXL;2695829]Ten percent is a minimal bad session rate in any country, and it is a very good rate at that. It is also my bad session rate in Brazil. .....[/QUOTE]My bad session rate in Brazil is very low and they are all with very young Brazilians; 18,19, 20 year olds.
My bad session rate in SP is probably around 10% in all the past years. If I use PA, I ask a lot of questions to the girls, get unfiltered photos and a videocall. Usually the flakes and scammers stop answering if I ask a lot of questions, so I just move on.
In Rio, it is also around 10% since most of my girls are from 4 x4 in the past years. Every once in a while I might come across a dud at 4 x4 but I think I know how to spot one while talking to them.
Will be arriving at SP at 940 pm. Company booked hotel close to airport for following day's flight at 850 pm. Is it worth it to go into the city for a bit of fun? Given that the hotel has checkout at noon-ish, is there any place at GRU for storing baggage?
[QUOTE=ThatDudeThere;2695563]Kelly Oliviera! You bring back good memories. I did two pernoites with her and she was an absolute champ. There was nothing off the table and she let me film and even held the phone herself at times to capture better angles. Gipaes is the one I missed and always wanted to try. My biggest frustration is onlyfans. The hotter girls need to session less as the simps will pay subscription for their videos (girls don't even need to move to Berlin to stop working). I do not know one person who pays for an only fans subscription and yet so many girls make good money from it. To make the world a better place we should collectively stop paying for onlyfans and request anyone we know with a subscription to stop.[/QUOTE]There's a Kelly look a like in RJ that I met at Scandallo. Did everything and would let me film at my hotel. Name is Lais, probably on some site in RJ.
[QUOTE=SexIsLove;2695789]I was 10 days in SP last month arriving easter week on Thursday. Spent the first night with a previous 20 something contact from Scandallo whom I had already setup a date with before. Next day Friday all the clubs were closed but tried Bahamas and it was open. As soon as I walked in ran into the 21 yr old redhead from last trip. Played some pool and had drinks with her and then took her back to the hotel 2 K plus bar fine haha. Saturday was a repeat with a brunette from Scandallo who I just called over to the hotel and Sunday it was a branca from Bomboa from a previous trip also called her over to the hotel - 2 k and 1. 5 K respectively but no bar fines haha. Monday was late lunch at Fogo de Chao and early evening frolicking with a Scandallo girl with whom I had spent a week in Feb in Mexico and late evening was a repeat with the brunette from Scandallo who came over to the hotel. Tuesday I picked up a 30 yr old branca from Cafe foto who spent the next two days with me including going with me to Guaruja for a day trip. Thursday I hooked up with a girl from Tinder who spent a few hours with me having dinner and some time at the hotel but she kept insisting on a gift so I gave her 1 K. Next day she texted me to meet again. She was probably a 7 and not so bad in the bed but I felt that she was just being greedy when nothing was discussed about the gift prior and so ignored her. I don't remember about Friday but Saturday was a blast and it was my last day in SP before my return. I went early to Scandallo around 5 pm and after about a couple of hours or so got my first hit. There were these two girls 20 and 21 approx. (both easily 8+ in my book) hanging around together and as they went past my table in the patio I smiled and waved at them.[/QUOTE]Like I said 90% of the girls in Scandallo will go for 1500 overnight. If you went up to the room with her already, 90% chance she will go out for 1000 the same night. Stop overpaying and making it worst for everything else!
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2695107]Of my dozens of messages, more than half were not received until the nightfall. Of those that were received, more than half were not seen. Of those that were seen, about half were replied to. One was cordial, two were nice but boilerplate excuses that they aren't there today, but I should go and ask for a line up.
Since I had my session with the Isis, the oral surgeon 🤪, I was in the area at night, walked by, but didn't go in. The villa 119 is really pretty, and I'd say totally worth a visit. Don't get hung up on any one of the ads, just go and look. I felt zero unsafety in the area even at night. It's super close to the Metro. One of the girls told me there would be about 7 there that afternoon, and it was probably the worst date of the year to go looking for mongering. Oh, and as I walked that street I saw the redhead walk by she looked quite like in the ad, didn't see her tattoos to confirm, but I'm sure it was her and the checks out about same age of face to the ad. So this is all I can do to clear this place as worth going to. It's also cheap, 100 for the girl, 40 for the room. Take 2 girls for 240? I mean what could possibly go wrong with that? Again, it's a really nice looking place.[/QUOTE]With all the talk about this place decided to visit it on Monday. 45 minutes on the metro from Moema. There is a homeless camp on the main road from the Santana metro station to the place. Got there about 3:30 PM. Was walking in to 119 when a guy coming out asked if I had an appointment. I said no so he said the presentations were next door, at 131. There were 8 women in the presentation, only one of whom was doable, Clara, an attractive blonde with a good body. I wasn't ready to pull the trigger, so another guy chose her. The receptionist asked if I had liked any girl. I told her only Clara. She was going to get her back from the other guy (since I had arrived first) but I told her no. She then pulled up Clara's ad on [URL]photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] and apparently sent a message to her from me. I got back a response, and another response later when I responded that I had sent the message by mistake, when she was in the room doing a program, so obviously someone else is responding to messages on that site. I asked the receptionist how many girls normally worked there. She said 30, but today there were only 13 because Sunday was Mother's Day. They are open until 1 AM. There are two shifts, so the best time to see all of the women is late afternoon, after the second shift comes in. She confirmed price is 100 for the girl, 40 for the room. Told her I would come back tomorrow.
Arrived Tuesday about 4 PM. 10 women in the presentation, only one of whom was doable, the same Carla from yesterday, who had just finished doing a program. Was told 20 girls were there today, but half were doing programs. Decided to leave as even though Carla was attractive, she did not have the sweet kind of face I like.
The women here are average to below average clinica quality, and a little older than in clinicas in Moema. If you are in the area it might be worth stopping by to see if anyone attractive is available, but there is no reason to go out of your way to go there. I shall not be returning.
[QUOTE=TwoPlusTwoMake;2695931]Will be arriving at SP at 940 pm. Company booked hotel close to airport for following day's flight at 850 pm. Is it worth it to go into the city for a bit of fun? Given that the hotel has checkout at noon-ish, is there any place at GRU for storing baggage?[/QUOTE]I think you would be crazy not to go into the city. I presume Sao Paulo is a long way from your home.
If your plane is on time and you get checked in at your hotel quickly, you might have a shot at catching the action at Scandallo. It gets going very late. The next day would obviously give you more time to check out clinicas or meet an incall escort. If you decide on an escort for your day of fun, go with with a top escort (500-700 Reais approximately).
There is luggage storage at GRU. It might be just as easy checking the bags with your hotel and sweeping back to pick it up later. It just depends on where they booked your lodging.
[URL]https://www.thetravelbrief.com/briefs/sao-paulo-where-to-find-luggage-storage-in-sao-paulo-guarhlos-gru-airport[/URL]
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2695939]There's a Kelly look a like in RJ that I met at Scandallo. Did everything and would let me film at my hotel. Name is Lais, probably on some site in RJ.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Sent you a pm.
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2695942]Like I said 90% of the girls in Scandallo will go for 1500 overnight. If you went up to the room with her already, 90% chance she will go out for 1000 the same night. Stop overpaying and making it worst for everything else![/QUOTE]Scandallo is not a place for price sensitive mongers. Even 1500 reals (300 USD) in my opinion, is a lot of money in Brazil. I would rather have 3 overnight dates at 100 bucks each in Colombia. When you spend 1500-2500 reals per date, and have more than one date per day, money is not an issue and 500-1000 reals difference is not noticeable.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2695962]With all the talk about this place decided to visit it on Monday. 45 minutes on the metro from Moema.
The women here are average to below average clinica quality, and a little older than in clinicas in Moema. If you are in the area it might be worth stopping by to see if anyone attractive is available, but there is no reason to go out of your way to go there. I shall not be returning.[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking one for the team, Jimmy. Sadly a known bait and switch agency does not have the squadron of cheap young hot girls that it advertises on the fake photo website.
Can we get back to reality.
There are plenty of reputable clinicas, heavily discussed on this forum, with practically guaranteed high level of service at all price levels. For 150 r / hour, there are the sister clinicas Indy and Moah which are run by the friendliest owners / reception. For 190 r / hour, tangara and yankin. For around 250 r, there is a dozen and more near Moema including prime, 57, Miruna, Enjoy and Abbobora. More clinicas at high price levels, but I am too cheap. For night action, go to any of the boates, scandallo, casarao, Bomboa, or connection. For online escorts, try the more reputable sites where girls have to pay to be listed, Clubmodel, Private55, mclass and BarraVIPS.
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2695942]Like I said 90% of the girls in Scandallo will go for 1500 overnight. If you went up to the room with her already, 90% chance she will go out for 1000 the same night. Stop overpaying and making it worst for everything else![/QUOTE]And maybe 75% of the girls will do pernoite for 1 K or less, does not mean anything to me. I have been mongering for well over 3 decades now and I do not agree with your logic haha. I am very picky and as I said I typically pay the ballpark current rate of 1. 2 to 2 K depending on the girl and the situation with rare exceptions both ways and I am not going to be hassling too much over a 500-1000 difference for a pernoite with a young hottie on my last night in SP! Maybe you have the Brad Pitt charm and doing all the 9+ young hotties for 1. 5 K or less so kudos to you man! And how do you know that the rich Brazilians are not paying these girls much more than me or you and actually am helping bring down the prices according to your simplistic logic reversed haha.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2696028]Scandallo is not a place for price sensitive mongers. Even 1500 reals (300 USD) in my opinion, is a lot of money in Brazil. I would rather have 3 overnight dates at 100 bucks each in Colombia. When you spend 1500-2500 reals per date, and have more than one date per day, money is not an issue and 500-1000 reals difference is not noticeable.[/QUOTE]A WG has to be crazy hot for me to spend 1500 reals on her in Brazil.
[QUOTE=SexIsLove;2695789]... over to the hotel - 2 k and 1. 5 K respectively ... 700 ... 600 ...[/QUOTE]WTF are these prices? Indian Rupees or what? This is astronomical!
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2696028]Scandallo is not a place for price sensitive mongers. Even 1500 reals (300 USD) in my opinion, is a lot of money in Brazil. I would rather have 3 overnight dates at 100 bucks each in Colombia. When you spend 1500-2500 reals per date, and have more than one date per day, money is not an issue and 500-1000 reals difference is not noticeable.[/QUOTE]If the quality of the girls is the same at $100 then that would be really great deal. Maybe outside of SP this price is possible.
Which clubs in Bogota can I find these girls?
[QUOTE=SexIsLove;2696220]And maybe 75% of the girls will do pernoite for 1 K or less, does not mean anything to me. I have been mongering for well over 3 decades now and I do not agree with your logic haha. I am very picky and as I said I typically pay the ballpark current rate of 1. 2 to 2 K depending on the girl and the situation with rare exceptions both ways and I am not going to be hassling too much over a 500-1000 difference for a pernoite with a young hottie on my last night in SP! Maybe you have the Brad Pitt charm and doing all the 9+ young hotties for 1. 5 K or less so kudos to you man! And how do you know that the rich Brazilians are not paying these girls much more than me or you and actually am helping bring down the prices according to your simplistic logic reversed haha.[/QUOTE]I've been going to Scandallo for 10 years so I know how it works. Thanks for your reverse logic.
On subsequent visits they let you in with a digital copy, or even just mentioning the passport number, but I was wondering if they let you in on your first visit with just a copy on your smartphone. Anything not to go around with my passport in Brazil. In fact that's one of the reasons I don't do online girls, as the place they work from want to see my passport.
Regarding pricing at Scandallo, the rates I mentioned I got in 2020 were in early afternoon (2-3pm). I understand the cover charge gets more expensive later in the day. Could it be that girls charge more later in the day as well?
[QUOTE=XXL;2696593]On subsequent visits they let you in with a digital copy, or even just mentioning the passport number, but I was wondering if they let you in on your first visit with just a copy on your smartphone. Anything not to go around with my passport in Brazil. In fact that's one of the reasons I don't do online girls, as the place they work from want to see my passport.
Regarding pricing at Scandallo, the rates I mentioned I got in 2020 were in early afternoon (2-3pm). I understand the cover charge gets more expensive later in the day. Could it be that girls charge more later in the day as well?[/QUOTE]Depends on the girl but usually day girls charge less because there are less clients during the day and will go upstairs for 400 sometimes. These girls have other commitments at night so they're more open to lower pricing like pretending they have a day job so their family does not know or they just can't get use to staying up all night.
[QUOTE=XXL;2696593]On subsequent visits they let you in with a digital copy, or even just mentioning the passport number, but I was wondering if they let you in on your first visit with just a copy on your smartphone. Anything not to go around with my passport in Brazil. In fact that's one of the reasons I don't do online girls, as the place they work from want to see my passport.[/QUOTE]I just carry my driver license and show it in the boates and building lobbies and was never denied. I keep a copy of passport on me in case but never had to show it.
[QUOTE=XXL;2696593]On subsequent visits they let you in with a digital copy, or even just mentioning the passport number, but I was wondering if they let you in on your first visit with just a copy on your smartphone. Anything not to go around with my passport in Brazil. In fact that's one of the reasons I don't do online girls, as the place they work from want to see my passport.
Regarding pricing at Scandallo, the rates I mentioned I got in 2020 were in early afternoon (2-3pm). I understand the cover charge gets more expensive later in the day. Could it be that girls charge more later in the day as well?[/QUOTE]I have never been asked for a passport at Scandello. I use my USA drivers license as ID. I am in the same boat as you. I never carry my passport anywhere. I have a photo on my phone.
I don't know about the cover since I always go later in the evening.
I too show my Texas drivers license at fine hoaring establishments!
Always gets me a 50% discount and allows me to drive cars and carry anywhere in the world!
Josef Vagabundo.
Dallas, TX.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2696634]I have never been asked for a passport at Scandello. I use my USA drivers license as ID. I am in the same boat as you. I never carry my passport anywhere. I have a photo on my phone.
I don't know about the cover since I always go later in the evening.[/QUOTE]
Since many places are closed on Sundays so any recommendation is appreciated.
I know Miruna and Brooklin clinicia are open but not sure what other boate is open on Sundays.
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2696405]If the quality of the girls is the same at $100 then that would be really great deal. Maybe outside of SP this price is possible.
Which clubs in Bogota can I find these girls?[/QUOTE]Been to both Brasil and Colombia dozens of times. You won't find a place with the quality / quantity that you find at Scandallo in Colombia. Not even close. In fact, I would say the only other place in the world that is at the level of Scandallo is Globe in Zurich.
[QUOTE=Combo;2697138]Been to both Brasil and Colombia dozens of times. You won't find a place with the quality / quantity that you find at Scandallo in Colombia. Not even close. In fact, I would say the only other place in the world that is at the level of Scandallo is Globe in Zurich.[/QUOTE]Globe was good, but I wasn't overly impressed. I found talent just as good as Globe in Germany at far more favorable prices. Also, comparing an FKK set-up like Globe to a stylish nightclub set-up like Scandallo really isn't an apples to apples comparison, but I get your drift. I just think that Scandallo is clearly the best in the world in the tute nightclub category. The funny thing is that I received the best BBBJ / CIM I have ever had in my entire life at Globe. From a [B]Brazilian[/B] girl! LOLOLOL! May as well stick with the source!
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;2697131]Since many places are closed on Sundays so any recommendation is appreciated.
I know Miruna and Brooklin clinicia are open but not sure what other boate is open on Sundays.[/QUOTE]Per Google, Casarao and Bahamas Hotel Club are open on Sundays. Clinicas Moema Prime, Indy, and Tangara are also open on Sundays.
[QUOTE=Combo;2697138]Been to both Brasil and Colombia dozens of times. You won't find a place with the quality / quantity that you find at Scandallo in Colombia. Not even close. In fact, I would say the only other place in the world that is at the level of Scandallo is Globe in Zurich.[/QUOTE]I heard Mansion in Bogota was good if it is still around. I have 8 hours to sample the goods.
Big news about Scandallo in a few weeks, hope it happens.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2697141]Globe was good, but I wasn't overly impressed. I found talent just as good as Globe in Germany at far more favorable prices. Also, comparing an FKK set-up like Globe to a stylish nightclub set-up like Scandallo really isn't an apples to apples comparison, but I get your drift. I just think that Scandallo is clearly the best in the world in the tute nightclub category. The funny thing is that I received the best BBBJ / CIM I have ever had in my entire life at Globe. From a [B]Brazilian[/B] girl! LOLOLOL! May as well stick with the source![/QUOTE]Agreed, they are different types of venues. But what they have in common is amazing quality AND quantity. Those two are the best by far for sheer numbers of spectacular women. And neither is cheap.
Notably, Sao Paulo has plenty of excellent reasonable options also, which Zurich doesn't. You can splurge at Scandallo a night or two then hit the clínicas and other boites other days/nights. Some of the clínicas have beautiful women for very cheap. And pretty damn good performance since you’re in Brasil.
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2697281]I heard Mansion in Bogota was good if it is still around. I have 8 hours to sample the goods.
Big news about Scandallo in a few weeks, hope it happens.[/QUOTE]Mansion I assume not Bogota but Medellin. Pablo escobars old place. Line up is good but it's like 4-7 girls. No comparison at all. Other mansion is the hotel, even less of a comparison as the chicks are not hot.
If you can still postpone your trip to SP until the very end of the month, you'd better do it because the forecast is for temperatures as low as 6 Celsius (that's 43 F) starting next week (tomorrow). Luckily I booked a hotel (as opposed to an AirBnB without heating) for the first 10 days of my stay.
I'll try to get a SIM card at shopping Iguatemi as soon as I arrive. On my last trip Caro and Vivo at Iguatemi didn't want to sell me one as the only thing I had to show was my passport (I had the CPF of a friend but according to Caro she had to come and sign for the SIM, WTF). Vivo told me I could first buy a blank card at one of the convenience stores (Lojas Americas I think), then come to them for enabling the card. Why does setting yourself up with a SIM card have to be such a hassle in Brazil?
[QUOTE=XXL;2697606]If you can still postpone your trip to SP until the very end of the month, you'd better do it because the forecast is for temperatures as low as 6 Celsius (that's 43 F) starting next week (tomorrow). Luckily I booked a hotel (as opposed to an AirBnB without heating) for the first 10 days of my stay.
I'll try to get a SIM card at shopping Iguatemi as soon as I arrive. On my last trip Caro and Vivo at Iguatemi didn't want to sell me one as the only thing I had to show was my passport (I had the CPF of a friend but according to Caro she had to come and sign for the SIM, WTF). Vivo told me I could first buy a blank card at one of the convenience stores (Lojas Americas I think), then come to them for enabling the card. Why does setting yourself up with a SIM card have to be such a hassle in Brazil?[/QUOTE]They want to track you of course esp now banking done with pix and can be the phone number. If you go to BR often, recharge it every 3 months so you keep your number.
[QUOTE=XXL;2697606]I'll try to get a SIM card at shopping Iguatemi as soon as I arrive. On my last trip Caro and Vivo at Iguatemi didn't want to sell me one as the only thing I had to show was my passport (I had the CPF of a friend but according to Caro she had to come and sign for the SIM, WTF). Vivo told me I could first buy a blank card at one of the convenience stores (Lojas Americas I think), then come to them for enabling the card. Why does setting yourself up with a SIM card have to be such a hassle in Brazil?[/QUOTE]You could get a SIM card at Lojas Americanas for 10 reais and ask a girl to activate it for you with your friend’s CPF or hers. They love to do that.
The good old days of the Pandemic are gone. The girls are now asking for 1000 to 3000 Brazilian. 200 entry and 200 consumption. 1 or 2 stunners, few pretty girls and a few not so attractive girls. I wouldn't come back again.
Upon arrival at 11:30 pm, entry seemed free. A numbered wristband was attached to me upon entry. I was then escorted by a doorman to the bar. The room was filled with below-average talent. I ordered a bottled beer (12 oz Stella). No money was transferred at that time. Rather a scorecard was annotated with my wristband number and drink order. A few hard bargainers approached and attempted small talk. It was obvious I had no interest. Finished my beer and headed for the door. The same doorman intercepted me and guided me to the cashier where I was presented with a 273 BRL ($54 USD) bill. I commented that the beer was quite expensive. The doorman told me that the beer was free. The cover charge was 273 BRL!
Not impressed.
[QUOTE=Neworlean;2697889]The good old days of the Pandemic are gone. [b]The girls are now asking for 1000 to 3000 Brazilian[/b]. 200 entry and 200 consumption. 1 or 2 stunners, few pretty girls and a few not so attractive girls. [b]I wouldn't come back again[/b].[/QUOTE]1. Was asking price for (1 hour upstairs in a Scandallo Room) or (Pernoite at your Hotel/Apartment)?
2. [B]What specifically did you not like for you not wanting to go back?[/B].
Scandallo may not be for everyone including everyone's pockets.
I actually have to agree with you. It looks kind of like Casarao / rua Augusta level lately.
[QUOTE=Neworlean;2697889]The good old days of the Pandemic are gone. The girls are now asking for 1000 to 3000 Brazilian. 200 entry and 200 consumption. 1 or 2 stunners, few pretty girls and a few not so attractive girls. I wouldn't come back again.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2697281]I heard Mansion in Bogota was good if it is still around. I have 8 hours to sample the goods.
Big news about Scandallo in a few weeks, hope it happens.[/QUOTE]What's the news about Scandallo? Will be going in a few weeks.
[QUOTE=Neworlean;2697889]The good old days of the Pandemic are gone. The girls are now asking for 1000 to 3000 Brazilian. 200 entry and 200 consumption. 1 or 2 stunners, few pretty girls and a few not so attractive girls. I wouldn't come back again.[/QUOTE]What day of the week did you go that the talent was so bad?
[QUOTE=Assman2001;2697913]Upon arrival at 11:30 pm, entry seemed free. A numbered wristband was attached to me upon entry. I was then escorted by a doorman to the bar. The room was filled with below-average talent. I ordered a bottled beer (12 oz Stella). No money was transferred at that time. Rather a scorecard was annotated with my wristband number and drink order. A few hard bargainers approached and attempted small talk. It was obvious I had no interest. Finished my beer and headed for the door. The same doorman intercepted me and guided me to the cashier where I was presented with a 273 BRL ($54 USD) bill. I commented that the beer was quite expensive. The doorman told me that the beer was free. The cover charge was 273 BRL!.[/QUOTE]Bomboa charges consumption 249 BRL and adds 10% service charge (not mandatory) on top, thus 273 BRL.
[QUOTE=Assman2001;2697913]Upon arrival at 11:30 pm, entry seemed free. A numbered wristband was attached to me upon entry. I was then escorted by a doorman to the bar. The room was filled with below-average talent. I ordered a bottled beer (12 oz Stella). No money was transferred at that time. Rather a scorecard was annotated with my wristband number and drink order. A few hard bargainers approached and attempted small talk. It was obvious I had no interest. Finished my beer and headed for the door. The same doorman intercepted me and guided me to the cashier where I was presented with a 273 BRL ($54 USD) bill. I commented that the beer was quite expensive. The doorman told me that the beer was free. The cover charge was 273 BRL!
Not impressed.[/QUOTE]What were you not impressed with? The place? The cover charge? Or quality of girls?
I haven't been to Bomboa in a long time so I can't comment on the inside of the place and neither can I comment on the quality of the girls. The cover charge is fairly typical of boates in SP. Did you ask the doorman how much to get in and what it includes.
Zup all?
Going to be in SP soon, planning on my first visit to Scandello Friday night. Have heard you all rave about it, so going to pay a visit.
From what I gather from reading all the posts about it, this is what I think I can expect;.
Arrive later, like between 11-12 pm.
Expect 400 reis entrance fee, of which 200 can be used for food / drinks.
Girls will quote 1,500 ish for an hour, can talk them down to around 800.
An hour room is 240 reis.
So if I session, plan on dropping 1,500 reis, maybe 2,000 depending on how many drinks for girls I buy.
Let me know if the above sounds about right.
If anyone has any other tips on the place, I'm all ears.
I will be there solo as I don't hang with my co-workers.
Thanks for any feedback in advance.
Lonnie.
There is a decent size group of girls that Scandalo works and communicates with each other and the target only Asian clients. Fat young skinny ugly rich good looking whatever as long as they are Asian. It is so obvious on what they are doing LOL I can watch them work in the background. There's one girl here who I've never seen her in an Asian client before except the other day and probably because they pay her a lot.
Talk them down to 500 or 400 per hour.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2698089]Zup all?
Going to be in SP soon, planning on my first visit to Scandello Friday night. Have heard you all rave about it, so going to pay a visit.
From what I gather from reading all the posts about it, this is what I think I can expect;.
Arrive later, like between 11-12 pm.
Expect 400 reis entrance fee, of which 200 can be used for food / drinks.
Girls will quote 1,500 ish for an hour, can talk them down to around 800.
An hour room is 240 reis.
So if I session, plan on dropping 1,500 reis, maybe 2,000 depending on how many drinks for girls I buy.
Let me know if the above sounds about right..[/QUOTE]
Forget buying them drinks. Especially the ones who just shows up to you out of nowhere. Can't buy all 100 of them drinks.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2698089]Zup all?
Going to be in SP soon, planning on my first visit to Scandello Friday night. Have heard you all rave about it, so going to pay a visit.
From what I gather from reading all the posts about it, this is what I think I can expect;.
Arrive later, like between 11-12 pm.
Expect 400 reis entrance fee, of which 200 can be used for food / drinks.
Girls will quote 1,500 ish for an hour, can talk them down to around 800.
An hour room is 240 reis.
So if I session, plan on dropping 1,500 reis, maybe 2,000 depending on how many drinks for girls I buy.
Let me know if the above sounds about right.
If anyone has any other tips on the place, I'm all ears.
I will be there solo as I don't hang with my co-workers.
Thanks for any feedback in advance.
Lonnie.[/QUOTE]
Usually the ones who approaches me are the ones who I usually don't want.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2698089]Zup all?
Going to be in SP soon, planning on my first visit to Scandello Friday night. Have heard you all rave about it, so going to pay a visit.
From what I gather from reading all the posts about it, this is what I think I can expect;.
Arrive later, like between 11-12 pm.
Expect 400 reis entrance fee, of which 200 can be used for food / drinks.
Girls will quote 1,500 ish for an hour, can talk them down to around 800.
An hour room is 240 reis.
So if I session, plan on dropping 1,500 reis, maybe 2,000 depending on how many drinks for girls I buy..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Assman2001;2697913]Upon arrival at 11:30 pm, entry seemed free. A numbered wristband was attached to me upon entry. I was then escorted by a doorman to the bar. The room was filled with below-average talent. I ordered a bottled beer (12 oz Stella). No money was transferred at that time. Rather a scorecard was annotated with my wristband number and drink order. A few hard bargainers approached and attempted small talk. It was obvious I had no interest. Finished my beer and headed for the door. The same doorman intercepted me and guided me to the cashier where I was presented with a 273 BRL ($54 USD) bill. I commented that the beer was quite expensive. The doorman told me that the beer was free. The cover charge was 273 BRL!..[/QUOTE]The high end boates like scandallo, Bomboa, and photo are not the quick look and see type of place given the high covers. 250 r sounds right for the standard cover for Bomboa. Casarao has a 30 r cover with no drinks where you drop by and take a l quick look.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2698146]There is a decent size group of girls that Scandalo works and communicates with each other and the target only Asian clients. Fat young skinny ugly rich good looking whatever as long as they are Asian. It is so obvious on what they are doing LOL I can watch them work in the background. There's one girl here who I've never seen her in an Asian client before except the other day and probably because they pay her a lot.[/QUOTE]To clarify these girls are not focused on Asian guys from only abroad. Most Asians guys in scandallo are locals, many born and raised Japanese or Chinese. The Asian specialist girls tend to be spinners, thin petite white. Just my taste since I am Chinese. Hahahaha.
[QUOTE=Safado007;2698063]Bomboa charges consumption 249 BRL and adds 10% service charge (not mandatory) on top, thus 273 BRL.[/QUOTE]At Bomboa, you are assigned a waiter and you get most of your drinks from him and he takes care of you. It's like an old fashioned speakeasy. When you paid the bill, my waiter asked if it was ok to add the service charge. From the US, it's standard so I was good with it and the waiter actually did take my orders and deliver my drinks to my table.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2698089]Zup all?
Going to be in SP soon, planning on my first visit to Scandello Friday night. Have heard you all rave about it, so going to pay a visit.
From what I gather from reading all the posts about it, this is what I think I can expect;.
Arrive later, like between 11-12 pm.
Expect 400 reis entrance fee, of which 200 can be used for food / drinks.
Girls will quote 1,500 ish for an hour, can talk them down to around 800.
An hour room is 240 reis.
So if I session, plan on dropping 1,500 reis, maybe 2,000 depending on how many drinks for girls I buy.
Let me know if the above sounds about right.[/QUOTE]Sounds right to me. Have fun and report back. Seems like a few reports that the High quality of girls have dropped. I return next month!
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2698146]There is a decent size group of girls that Scandalo works and communicates with each other and the target only Asian clients. Fat young skinny ugly rich good looking whatever as long as they are Asian. It is so obvious on what they are doing LOL I can watch them work in the background. There's one girl here who I've never seen her in an Asian client before except the other day and probably because they pay her a lot.[/QUOTE]I went with a blue-eyed blonde, German looking beauty once at Scandallo. She tried to charge me 800 at first. I told her that was high (pre-pandemic). She said, "Oh yeah, I'm not talking to a Japanese guy". We settled on a more favorable 600 reals to close the deal.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2698089]Zup all?
Going to be in SP soon, planning on my first visit to Scandello Friday night. Have heard you all rave about it, so going to pay a visit.
From what I gather from reading all the posts about it, this is what I think I can expect;.
Arrive later, like between 11-12 pm.
Expect 400 reis entrance fee, of which 200 can be used for food / drinks.
Girls will quote 1,500 ish for an hour, can talk them down to around 800.
An hour room is 240 reis.
So if I session, plan on dropping 1,500 reis, maybe 2,000 depending on how many drinks for girls I buy.
Let me know if the above sounds about right.
If anyone has any other tips on the place, I'm all ears.
I will be there solo as I don't hang with my co-workers.
Thanks for any feedback in advance.
Lonnie.[/QUOTE]I will be going to scandallo for the first time this Friday as well. Send me a pm if you want to link up. I have been reaching out to girls on the upper end sites and am surprised at how much the prices have increased since the pandemic, in addition to the BRL being very strong. The twitter girls are now quoting absolutely ridiculous prices, I guess because they are having their pockets filled by simps on onlyfans. I really wish someone would hack that platform.
[QUOTE=ThatDudeThere;2698314] I have been reaching out to girls on the upper end sites and am surprised at how much the prices have increased since the pandemic, in addition to the BRL being very strong. The twitter girls are now quoting absolutely ridiculous prices[/QUOTE]1. Since you been "Reaching Out", Could you be more specific on price quotes per source?
2. What quotes constitutes "Ridiculous Prices"?
Your Recon info could be useful for those incoming in the next few weeks and can prepare one for "Sticker Shock" and prepare negotiation strategies.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2698089]Zup all?
Going to be in SP soon, planning on my first visit to Scandello Friday night. Have heard you all rave about it, so going to pay a visit.
From what I gather from reading all the posts about it, this is what I think I can expect;.
Arrive later, like between 11-12 pm.
Expect 400 reis entrance fee, of which 200 can be used for food / drinks.
Girls will quote 1,500 ish for an hour, can talk them down to around 800.
An hour room is 240 reis.
So if I session, plan on dropping 1,500 reis, maybe 2,000 depending on how many drinks for girls I buy.
Let me know if the above sounds about right.
If anyone has any other tips on the place, I'm all ears.
I will be there solo as I don't hang with my co-workers.
Thanks for any feedback in advance.
Lonnie.[/QUOTE]Yes you have it right and thanks for doing your research! Only two things to add:
1. You might be able to nudge below 800 but not much. Ignore the comment that said 400-500. Not going to happen. I pulled a slightly older girl at 4 AM for 500 prepandemic. But def not these days. It will just frustrate you. You seem to understand that you don't go to Scandallo to save money. LOL.
2. Don't miss the new massive patio and outdoor bar. If you continue past the restrooms you will end up outside. Take a left. Not sure the most action is out there but great to take a girl if you want more quiet alone time before the room.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2698146]There is a decent size group of girls that Scandalo works and communicates with each other and the target only Asian clients. Fat young skinny ugly rich good looking whatever as long as they are Asian. It is so obvious on what they are doing LOL I can watch them work in the background. There's one girl here who I've never seen her in an Asian client before except the other day and probably because they pay her a lot.[/QUOTE]The girls have a Whatsapp group where they talk about clients of course.
Foreign Asian guys are there to fuck so the girls flock to them, frequent clients they know are there just to get their numbers for maybe later.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2698089]Zup all?
Going to be in SP soon, planning on my first visit to Scandello Friday night. Have heard you all rave about it, so going to pay a visit.
From what I gather from reading all the posts about it, this is what I think I can expect;.
Arrive later, like between 11-12 pm.
Expect 400 reis entrance fee, of which 200 can be used for food / drinks.
Girls will quote 1,500 ish for an hour, can talk them down to around 800.
An hour room is 240 reis.
So if I session, plan on dropping 1,500 reis, maybe 2,000 depending on how many drinks for girls I buy.
Let me know if the above sounds about right..[/QUOTE]Like I said 90% will go for 700. Day time there are very few clients before 4 pm so 400-500 R is possible. If you don't speak Portuguese its harder to get them to barging. Start at 500 and add 100 for each fetish you want her to do.
90% will go out for 1500 esp if you went up to the room with them already but be clear to them for how long, many will leave after sex. There are some waiters that speaks English that will give you a tour and will never ask for tip. Some girls will ask for tips but don't bother.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2698146]There is a decent size group of girls that Scandalo works and communicates with each other and the target only Asian clients. Fat young skinny ugly rich good looking whatever as long as they are Asian. It is so obvious on what they are doing LOL I can watch them work in the background. There's one girl here who I've never seen her in an Asian client before except the other day and probably because they pay her a lot.[/QUOTE]Pre-pandemic the same thing happened at FKKs in Germany.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2698399]Yes you have it right and thanks for doing your research! Only two things to add:
1. You might be able to nudge below 800 but not much. Ignore the comment that said 400-500. Not going to happen. I pulled a slightly older girl at 4 AM for 500 prepandemic. But def not these days. It will just frustrate you. You seem to understand that you don't go to Scandallo to save money. LOL.
2. Don't miss the new massive patio and outdoor bar. If you continue past the restrooms you will end up outside. Take a left. Not sure the most action is out there but great to take a girl if you want more quiet alone time before the room.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply, Steve.
Def plan to see that outside part. From the pictures on their site, the place looks pretty high end with lots of cool spaces.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2698197]Forget buying them drinks. Especially the ones who just shows up to you out of nowhere. Can't buy all 100 of them drinks.[/QUOTE]Good advice Fewdie, thanks.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2698221]Sounds right to me. Have fun and report back. Seems like a few reports that the High quality of girls have dropped. I return next month![/QUOTE]Will do.
Looking fwd to finally seeing this place.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2698399]Yes you have it right and thanks for doing your research! Only two things to add:
1. You might be able to nudge below 800 but not much. Ignore the comment that said 400-500. Not going to happen. I pulled a slightly older girl at 4 AM for 500 prepandemic. But def not these days. It will just frustrate you. You seem to understand that you don't go to Scandallo to save money. LOL.
2. Don't miss the new massive patio and outdoor bar. If you continue past the restrooms you will end up outside. Take a left. Not sure the most action is out there but great to take a girl if you want more quiet alone time before the room.[/QUOTE]Actually, the patio isn't new. Its been there all the time. Maybe they closed off access to it for awhile due to COVID, but its been there since I have been going. Also, I urge mongers to show up earlier if they want to enjoy dinner, as well as some of the early talent that might be "loitering" around. Some Scandallo tutes want to make an early score, and then will leave afterwards if they hit their earnings target for the night.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2698198]Usually the ones who approaches me are the ones who I usually don't want.[/QUOTE]Generally, the girls who are the most assertive are the most business-like in the bedroom. That might not be so bad with a Brasileira working girl, but it's not the best Brazil has to offer.
Doesn't look like it in the clinicas. I visited 2 in Moema and their line-up had if anything slightly improved over 18 months ago. My sample is still limited though.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2698498]Actually, the patio isn't new. Its been there all the time. Maybe they closed off access to it for awhile due to COVID, but its been there since I have been going. Also, I urge mongers to show up earlier if they want to enjoy dinner, as well as some of the early talent that might be "loitering" around. Some Scandallo tutes want to make an early score, and then will leave afterwards if they hit their earnings target for the night.[/QUOTE]I don't think we're talking about the same patio. Or maybe I did somehow miss it. When I went in 2018 and 2019 there was a smallish patio to the right when you walk in. That patio is closed. The patio I am talking about is all the way thru the club past the restrooms and then you take a left. It's easy to miss, so maybe it was there before. But def not the one I have been to before which is now closed. They also converted the hall with the couches to more dining space. Otherwise it seems largely the same after the renovation.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2698614]I don't think we're talking about the same patio. Or maybe I did somehow miss it. When I went in 2018 and 2019 there was a smallish patio to the right when you walk in. That patio is closed. The patio I am talking about is all the way thru the club past the restrooms and then you take a left. It's easy to miss, so maybe it was there before. But def not the one I have been to before which is now closed. They also converted the hall with the couches to more dining space. Otherwise it seems largely the same after the renovation.[/QUOTE]Yes, the one I'm talking about you have to walk all the way thru the club and turn left. It's a large patio area with a long bar. That's always been there. Don't know how one could miss it really if you take the time to explore the whole place. That area has been there from the very first time I patronized Scandallo. Scandallo is a very large club indeed. One should take the time to explore it thoroughly. Tutes are to be found loitering in all corners of it.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2698614]I don't think we're talking about the same patio. Or maybe I did somehow miss it. When I went in 2018 and 2019 there was a smallish patio to the right when you walk in. That patio is closed. The patio I am talking about is all the way thru the club past the restrooms and then you take a left. It's easy to miss, so maybe it was there before. But def not the one I have been to before which is now closed. They also converted the hall with the couches to more dining space. Otherwise it seems largely the same after the renovation.[/QUOTE]The small patio is connected to the cafe. It is open in day time.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2698399]Yes you have it right and thanks for doing your research! Only two things to add:
1. You might be able to nudge below 800 but not much. Ignore the comment that said 400-500. Not going to happen. I pulled a slightly older girl at 4 AM for 500 prepandemic. But def not these days. It will just frustrate you. You seem to understand that you don't go to Scandallo to save money. LOL.
2. Don't miss the new massive patio and outdoor bar. If you continue past the restrooms you will end up outside. Take a left. Not sure the most action is out there but great to take a girl if you want more quiet alone time before the room.[/QUOTE]I agree with you that one should not walk away only because of price. I was able to get some of them for 500 and it is not just me. I have never been quoted more than 800. It maybe because my taste is not the same as other so I don't chase the same top girls. I also don't dress as nice as others. I suspect that may have something to do with price. LOL. People said you can't make out or tongue kissing in there. I did that with all the girls I sessioned because I saw locals did it and without knowing that you couldn't. I think there is a recent report from Axel also did that.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2698635]I agree with you that one should not walk away only because of price. I was able to get some of them for 500 and it is not just me. I have never been quoted more than 800. It maybe because my taste is not the same as other so I don't chase the same top girls. I also don't dress as nice as others. I suspect that may have something to do with price. LOL. People said you can't make out or tongue kissing in there. I did that with all the girls I sessioned because I saw locals did it and without knowing that you couldn't. I think there is a recent report from Axel also did that.[/QUOTE]Yeah no question you can make out with your girl in public. Done it a few times. Heck when I pulled Josie at 4 AM not only did we make out and dance for an hour she stood in front of me with her back to me and started rubbing my dick. Then she put her hands down my pants — right there at the big bar in Scandallo. That sealed the deal.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2698331]1. Since you been "Reaching Out", Could you be more specific on price quotes per source?
2. What quotes constitutes "Ridiculous Prices"?
Your Recon info could be useful for those incoming in the next few weeks and can prepare one for "Sticker Shock" and prepare negotiation strategies.[/QUOTE]Collie ángel from private55 - 800 per hour, 1000 with anal.
Eumariavila (twitter) - 1,500 per hour, 2000 with anal (Gipaes2 (twitter) - 700 per hour, 900 with anal. She used to charge 400 and 500 respectively 2 years ago (but she did get nose surgery).
A bunch of girls quoting 800-1000 per hour, need deposits to go to your hotel and some now only do onlyfans and don't actually work.
Based on this the scandallo pernoite at 1. 5 k -2 k is suddenly not looking that bad.
[QUOTE=XXL;2697606]If you can still postpone your trip to SP until the very end of the month, you'd better do it because the forecast is for temperatures as low as 6 Celsius (that's 43 F) starting next week (tomorrow). Luckily I booked a hotel (as opposed to an AirBnB without heating) for the first 10 days of my stay.[/QUOTE]Speaking of the weather:
[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/tropical-cyclone-blacks-182000-homes-southern-brazil-84792324[/URL]
The Ueber cost over 60 reais at 6 pm from Itaim. The return trip after 9 pm was less than half that. Ueber may have increased their rates at peak hours.
Plenty of girls at Scandallo but also plenty of men. Most men seemed to have come only to chill but you still saw many of them doing rooms after a while. When I left shortly after 9 pm crowds were arriving: taxis bringing customers, taxis bringing girls, also quite a few girls driving their own car. The place was already crowded when I left but it must have become more so later. In the past I had only visited shortly after opening time and didn't realise how crowded it could get. I can't stand crowded atmospheres for long, whether in a go-go bar in Thailand or in a high-end club like this one.
The Scandallo food was still so-so and overpriced compared to what you got in town. I sessioned a girl for 1000 after feebly endeavouring to get her to talk her down to 800. She insisted 1000 was because she did anal but I'm not into anal and never ask for it. The session was not good. She only did covered blow jobs. She had had plenty of plastic surgery which had looked gorgeous when she walked but turned out a catastrophe when she undressed and got into position (shemale syndrome). From what I've observed, butt jobs tend to ruin butt cracks and butt holes (squeezes the ass cheeks too close together). The price tag for this evening was 1500 reais (300 dollars). To be anywhere near worth this kind of money my session with the girl would have had to be good. Luckily I was meeting two other ISG members at Scandallo and we had some good laughs.
I'm done with Scandallo on this trip but for the sake of variety I may check on some other similar places like Connection.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2698635]I agree with you that one should not walk away only because of price. I was able to get some of them for 500 and it is not just me. I have never been quoted more than 800. It maybe because my taste is not the same as other so I don't chase the same top girls. I also don't dress as nice as others. I suspect that may have something to do with price. LOL. People said you can't make out or tongue kissing in there. I did that with all the girls I sessioned because I saw locals did it and without knowing that you couldn't. I think there is a recent report from Axel also did that.[/QUOTE]I've gotten the price at 500 as well. As a matter of fact, I chat with the girl I like and in conversation just tell her that I'll pay 500.
It's pretty much a take it or leave it deal.
I'm always willing to walk away, and almost always have had sexual fun earlier in the day, so I'm chill, Lol.
I speak pretty good porto, I'm very nice about it, and say I understand if they decline.
Way more times than not, they say let's go! Vamos!
I may hit Scandalo tomorrow night as a matter of fact.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2698812]I've gotten the price at 500 as well. As a matter of fact, I chat with the girl I like and in conversation just tell her that I'll pay 500.
It's pretty much a take it or leave it deal.
I'm always willing to walk away, and almost always have had sexual fun earlier in the day, so I'm chill, Lol.
I speak pretty good porto, I'm very nice about it, and say I understand if they decline.
Way more times than not, they say let's go! Vamos!
I may hit Scandalo tomorrow night as a matter of fact.[/QUOTE]The question is. When? Pre-pandemic?
Recent reports suggest 800-1000/ HR is accurate.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2698812]I've gotten the price at 500 as well. As a matter of fact, I chat with the girl I like and in conversation just tell her that I'll pay 500.
It's pretty much a take it or leave it deal.
I'm always willing to walk away, and almost always have had sexual fun earlier in the day, so I'm chill, Lol.
I speak pretty good porto, I'm very nice about it, and say I understand if they decline.
Way more times than not, they say let's go! Vamos!
I may hit Scandalo tomorrow night as a matter of fact.[/QUOTE]I plan to go as well.
Was thinking around 11 pm, but a few recent reports have indicated it might be packed even earlier then that. I could get there as early as 9 pm.
Seems you are a good bargainer to get them at 500, which still isn't cheap. My main babe's meter runs at 300 an hour, and she is a solid 8.5/10 and very sexy. An evening with her of about 4 hours, dinner and GFE everything runs me 1,800 (I take her to high end restos), so Scandello will be competing with that, as it appears that is what I will be spending if I session there.
Quick question to all you seasoned Scandello mongers;.
If I encounter a girl in my wheelhouse, we session for 800 an hour, how likely would it be she would go for less an hour if I asked her to meet outside if Scandello?
Thanks.
I arrived in SP around 1 AM and took Uber from Airport to Moema which about 90 are, much less than last time I was in Rio taking airport to Copa. I got settled in at an Airbnb Tsue Palace Flat (Apart hotel). Don't recommend this place, because of the noise next to the airport, you will hear airplanes around 6 AM, I even had earplugs and it woke me up around that time. Good thing about this Hotel is that it is very close to all the clinicas.
Monday. I went to check out Prime around 11 AM and there were about 3 girls available (Maite, Karen, Veronica (new)). Karen, as I later heard from another ISG, is really good but didn't session there. I walked to Miruna and there were about 6-8 girls avail, 2 that I liked (Jacque and Larissa). Picked Larissa, little shorty w / nice booty, face looks like late 20's or early 30's. Standard session with BBBJ, although GPguia said she does anal, I didn't ask.
Around 4 PM, I checked out Carinas to see what's it like since I have not been there before. They show you tablet with all the girls available, you can still see the girls currently unavailable too if you decide to wait for her. I almost decided not to session there, but I want to see how this house structure works and a second pop LOL. Initially I wanted to pick Rafaela because she is high rated in GPguia, wasn't avail, so I picked Thais, good looking thin morena with big tits from the picture but once in the room, I would deduct about 1 point from beauty scale. Anyway, she got nice tits and I tried to titty fuck it too LOL. The room was probably the nicest room out of all clinicas I have been, mirrors everywhere even the ceiling. Standard session with BBBJ, 69, mish, d4, CG. I came on her tits because she wants extra for CIM I believe it was like 100 are or 50 are, gringro upcharge I guess.
Tuesday. Went back to Prime around 130 P, hoping line up is better around this time, about 4, and then waited about 30 min and 2 more showed up. During this time I was able to chat up with a couple of mongers and one cool dude (X) who eventually showed me around the area and have been doing this for 40 years LOL. I decided on Penelope, a girl who just came in. She is thin white short girl with dark hair, all natural. She was a bit inexperience and a bit reserved. Does light kisses, not a lot of tongue action, BBBJ was decent. Standard session.
After this, I talk to X and he told me to come over to Unique Spa. I ubered over to check it out, it is close to Brooklin (don't recommend, more on it later). We hang out for a while, line up was about 12 avail with 18 total working around 5 PM. I saw about 6-8 thin mignon types, but I wanted this thick silicone everything chick named Bianca, haha. Her face looks good and her body was what I wanted at that time. Once in the room, she started to suck on a lolipop which kinda felt weird when kissing her be / see the taste of the lolipop lingers and I didn't like that, ended not kissing her as much as I would like. The girl wanted anal, she even lubed my fingers and guided them into her ass for me to play while she was sucking me LOL. We did mish, and after the flip, I stuck it in her ass. First anal this trip. Wasn't expecting or looking for it.
Afterward around 7 PM, X and I went to Chanes 57 to check out the talent. There were some good looking girls there. X went up with another girl here while I hang out and chill for the night. Since my hotel was directly infront of Chanes 57, I just walked over, pretty convenience.
[QUOTE=FlowState985;2698912]Tuesday. Went back to Prime around 130 P, hoping line up is better around this time, about 4, and then waited about 30 min and 2 more showed up. [/QUOTE]Don't believe the opening times for the clinicas. Very few or zero girls at opening. In Moema, the girls at prime and 57 start off slow. They usually get there at 1 to 2 pm or later. Compared to Miruna and enjoy, where many of girls start around 11 am to noon.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2698840]The question is. When? Pre-pandemic?
Recent reports suggest 800-1000/ HR is accurate.[/QUOTE]Is that a question or you know it is accurate? My post is during pandemic. Perhaps that has changed recently. I think there are two types of girls. One will go for many sessions with lower price and one will go for the jackpot. Not all girls are in the same situation. Some of them are not in a good financial situation, otherwise they don't have to live in the club housing. It's hard to image that all girls will try to hit the jackpot every night.
Many mongers in this forum don't care about money that much but they want to get hot girls. So the reports here can be skewed because of that.
Wednesday. Decided to go back to Miruna to check out the other girl I liked on Monday, Jacque. She got beautiful face with dimples when she smiles, tanned skin and thin. Nice firm be-see cup tits. Everything natural. She gave a great and enthusiastic session. I had a great time with her. BBBJ, mish, d4, DATY.
Afterward, I met with X (previous post), and we headed to Liberal Club around 6/7 PM. It is a nightclub in another city Sao Bernardo, about 30 minute drive from Moema without traffic. It is a lower end club compare to Scandallo, but there were some decent girls working that night. Price are around 300 are-500 are. The nightclub upstairs open after 9 PM.
Thursday. Wanting some ass and read reviews on gpguia that a girl at Spa Moah does it, I went hunting. Arrived at the clinica around 1 PM and 5 girls avail. I picked Diana based on review. She is a bit thicker girl than I normally like, but her service was great. BBBJ, mish, anal, d4. She took a long ass pounding and didn't complain. Took me a while to cum in their thick condom.
Met up with X later at Chanes 57 because of the owner's birthday party there. Great fun night. X pointed out all the girls that came from other clinicas to celebrate. Apparently the owner owns Prime / Miruna / Chanes 57/ Enjoy.
Friday. Late start. Went to meet with X at Unique to check out the line up, but since it was close to Brooklin, I decided to check it out. Walked over around 5 PM and there were about 6 avail. I decided to pick Camila (white blonde with fake everything, and a big tattoo cover her entire back). Initially during presentation, she didn't look old maybe because of the lightning, but once she came out again I was like damn I just made mistake, but whatever, going to test drive this place. Service was meh, she was and the only girl who asked me 50 are for BBBJ in a clinica. What a joke. Oh and another thing, this clinica asked money upfront, other clinicas I paid money after. I don't recommend this place, but if you want to sample it, pick someone else.
After the ordeal, I met with X at Unique then we headed to Chanes 57. Friday was Karaoke night. Fun chill nights. Around 11 P, we headed to Casarao (50 are entry) to check it out. There were plenty of good looking girls. Comparing to Scandallo, I prefer this place more. I stayed until 4 AM and then headed back to Hotel. Got a few numbers just for fun, but I knew nothing will come out of it, don't have the time.
Sat rest, Sun flew to Rio.
Insight: Most of the girl that works at Prime come to Chanes 57 after 7/8 PM so if you missed them, you might able to catch them there. Chanes is a fun place to hang out and chill. Casarao is an under rated night club because everyone on this forum talks about Scandallo. Even X who is a local guy, doesn't go to Scandallo. He said too expensive. It is for tourists and 5% of the Brazilian.
Clinica cost. Mostly from 200-250 are / HR. Unless it's abbobora, carinas, brooklin which is like 300-350 are / HR.
[QUOTE=FlowState985;2698996]Even X who is a local guy, doesn't go to Scandallo. He said too expensive. It is for tourists and 5% of the Brazilian.[/QUOTE]That's totally not true. One of the classic ways that people try to put Scandallo down is by saying that only mostly foreign tourists go there. If that were the case, then the place wouldn't survive. It needs a steady Brazilian clientele to survive. Every time I've been there it's almost all Brazilian men (and women of course). If you want to say tourists from other parts of Brazil OK, but otherwise it's through and through a Brazilian place patronized by Brazilian people. If somebody doesn't want to pay the price fine. But, there are plenty of other people, including Brazilians with money, who do. There was another well-known local who used to post here who would claim that the women look as good elsewhere for lower prices (another Scandallo put down tactic).
[QUOTE=FlowState985;2698996]Wednesday. Decided to go back to Miruna to check out the other girl I liked on Monday, Jacque. She got beautiful face with dimples when she smiles, tanned skin and thin. Nice firm be-see cup tits. Everything natural. She gave a great and enthusiastic session. I had a great time with her. BBBJ, mish, d4, DATY.
Afterward, I met with X (previous post), and we headed to Liberal Club around 6/7 PM. It is a nightclub in another city Sao Bernardo, about 30 minute drive from Moema without traffic. It is a lower end club compare to Scandallo, but there were some decent girls working that night. Price are around 300 are-500 are. The nightclub upstairs open after 9 PM.
Thursday. Wanting some ass and read reviews on gpguia that a girl at Spa Moah does it, I went hunting. Arrived at the clinica around 1 PM and 5 girls avail. I picked Diana based on review. She is a bit thicker girl than I normally like, but her service was great. BBBJ, mish, anal, d4. She took a long ass pounding and didn't complain. Took me a while to cum in their thick condom.
Met up with X later at Chanes 57 because of the owner's birthday party there. Great fun night. X pointed out all the girls that came from other clinicas to celebrate. Apparently the owner owns Prime / Miruna / Chanes 57/ Enjoy..[/QUOTE]Really great post Flowstate.
I am going to Scandello tonight, first time. I know it will be pricey, but will be like a pilgrimage as everyone raves about it, need to see it myself.
I have been to Casarão twice, it's a bit shabby, terrible music, but last time there were some cuties. Didn't session so no idea about price. I did get a girls number, she responded she would like to see me, name was Dani, talk thin morena.
Getting ready to lurk this thread.
Just posted about whipping up a multi stop South America hobby tour and while I get around to RTFF, my PM is open if you have any key monger / safety tips or will be in town that time.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2698646]Yeah no question you can make out with your girl in public. Done it a few times. Heck when I pulled Josie at 4 AM not only did we make out and dance for an hour she stood in front of me with her back to me and started rubbing my dick. Then she put her hands down my pants right there at the big bar in Scandallo. That sealed the deal.[/QUOTE]Oh wow, couldn't agree more. I was in Scandallo 3 times in April. My most enjoyable night there was drinking with a tall chica who didn't wear panties. I was fingering her off and on for a good hour before I took her home. Awesome night! Total damages were 1000 K for her. Drinks and food there are pretty pricey.
Interesting to read about Scandallo in this thread.
I've never been to Scandallo. On the local forums there are very few positive reports about Scandallo. I've gringo buddies who lived and worked in São Paulo for almost 30 years. They told me it's a upscale club with very expensive GP's, but with a quality that's not impressive. In this thread it seems like it's paradise. Maybe the posters are impressed because they havn't gotten laid for ages, have very few other brazilian puteiros to compare with or simply because they feel the need an excuse to why they need to pay a months salary to get laid. It reminds me of the Centauros mongers in Rio. They overpayed a lot and wrongly thought they got the best quality. However, as I wrote, I've never been in Scandallo and I might be totally wrong. Maybe Scandallo could be the paradise even though it's not much discussed on the local forums.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2699105]That's totally not true. One of the classic ways that people try to put Scandallo down is by saying that only mostly foreign tourists go there. If that were the case, then the place wouldn't survive. It needs a steady Brazilian clientele to survive. Every time I've been there it's almost all Brazilian men (and women of course). If you want to say tourists from other parts of Brazil OK, but otherwise it's through and through a Brazilian place patronized by Brazilian people. If somebody doesn't want to pay the price fine. But, there are plenty of other people, including Brazilians with money, who do. There was another well-known local who used to post here who would claim that the women look as good elsewhere for lower prices (another Scandallo put down tactic).[/QUOTE]I agree. Every time I have been there, all the guys are usually talking Portuguese and they even have their favorite girls they hang out with. Sitting at the bar right as you enter, you see the interaction between the guys and the girls they know. They are definitely locals and not tourists. There is absolutely no way tourists could keep a place open like Scandello.
As for the quality. I haven't been to the other places because I always seem to find what I am looking for at Scandello and don't see a need tk go somewhere else.
I have been to scandallo.
I concur with senor sperto!
[QUOTE=Sperto;2699316]Interesting to read about Scandallo in this thread.
I've never been to Scandallo. On the local forums there are very few positive reports about Scandallo. I've gringo buddies who lived and worked in Sao Paulo for almost 30 years. They told me it's a upscale club with very expensive GP's, but with a quality that's not impressive. In this thread it seems like it's paradise. Maybe the posters are impressed because they haven't gotten laid for ages, have very few other brazilian puteiros to compare with or simply because they feel the need an excuse to why they need to pay a months salary to get laid. It reminds me of the Centauros mongers in Rio. They overpayed a lot and wrongly thought they got the best quality. However, as I wrote, I've never been in Scandallo and I might be totally wrong. Maybe Scandallo could be the paradise even though it's not much discussed on the local forums.[/QUOTE]
I have been to Scandallo.
I have also seen pictures of the Scandallo girls that some of the fans of Scandallo (over) pay for trips to Buzios on short 3 day trips to Brazil.
Those girls are not any better than:
1. Girls at tier 1 prives, like Massagemtijuca.
[URL]https://www.massagemtijuca.com/massagistas[/URL]
You can see the pictures of Jessica, or Joyce, for example.
2. Scandallo and SP does not have beaches, like the one in this video by the excellent youtuber, Czech in Effect.
[URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM[/URL]
[URL]https://youtu.be/ihNqHLsvsw0[/URL]
Rio and Perola Negra, the best Terma in Brazil IMHO, are located at that video. You get laid, or get numbers in Perola Negra, and the girls for Perola come to that beach (which unlike Copa and even Leblon has clean water), and you roll out and you are at that beach. In Perola Negra, you can smoke weed with the girls in the outdoor area. This is Barra Posto 1, which is where the real rich top tier Brazilians live. There is no crime, because the locals don't allow it.
The cost at Perola Negra is 270 reais for 40 minutes, and 30 entrada.
In conclusion, there is no reason to be paying 5 x or 10 x for the same quality girl or IMHO lower quality girl at Scandallo. I think what is going on is that SP is a business center, and businessmen who have the extra meals and entertainment budget but not the time or freedom from work to go to a environment like Rio with the same women, but also beach and awesome mountain hiking all in the same hour, just go with the venue which has been catered to their schedule.
There are ISG board members who go to 4 x 4 because their local business contact takes them there; they spend 3200 on 4 girls in 8 hours; but the specific girls that they choose are girls that other ISGers would not session with due to see section scars, and are the same as vila mimosa diamonds in the rough, but the difference is 4 x 4 is a clean environment that caters to the downtown Rio business clientele, and the girl has some make up and better cloths on. If that ISG board member had the real luxury of time to go down the street to some tier 1 prives during their short trips, they would fine the exact same quality girls in the prives that Sperto in Rio and the late but not forgotten Altobomgosto in SP advocated.
The real luxury, the real wealth, is having the time to go to the prives in Rio Centro, Tijuca, and Barra, and the Barra termas, and to make a market, from 10-15 girls, down to 3 or 4 pernoites or 2+ hour sessions a week with own toilet advantage, week after week, for at least a month, if not years.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2699316]Interesting to read about Scandallo in this thread.
I've never been to Scandallo. On the local forums there are very few positive reports about Scandallo. I've gringo buddies who lived and worked in So Paulo for almost 30 years. They told me it's a upscale club with very expensive GP's, but with a quality that's not impressive. In this thread it seems like it's paradise. Maybe the posters are impressed because they havn't gotten laid for ages, have very few other brazilian puteiros to compare with or simply because they feel the need an excuse to why they need to pay a months salary to get laid. It reminds me of the Centauros mongers in Rio. They overpayed a lot and wrongly thought they got the best quality. However, as I wrote, I've never been in Scandallo and I might be totally wrong. Maybe Scandallo could be the paradise even though it's not much discussed on the local forums.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sperto;2699316]Interesting to read about Scandallo in this thread.
I've never been to Scandallo. On the local forums there are very few positive reports about Scandallo. I've gringo buddies who lived and worked in So Paulo for almost 30 years. They told me it's a upscale club with very expensive GP's, but with a quality that's not impressive. In this thread it seems like it's paradise. Maybe the posters are impressed because they havn't gotten laid for ages, have very few other brazilian puteiros to compare with or simply because they feel the need an excuse to why they need to pay a months salary to get laid. It reminds me of the Centauros mongers in Rio. They overpayed a lot and wrongly thought they got the best quality. However, as I wrote, I've never been in Scandallo and I might be totally wrong. Maybe Scandallo could be the paradise even though it's not much discussed on the local forums.[/QUOTE]Senhor Sperto, this post would seem mostly argumentative and at its core hearsay. It's already been said that Scandallo's business depends on affluent Brazilians. Cafe Foto had similar criticisms from some locals twenty years ago. Reviews or no reviews, certain Brazilians are keeping Scandallo in business.
One can definitely find Sao Paulo escorts with similar looks as Scandallo girls. You don't have to pay for a room, the cover and the expensive drinks. This adds up fast. However, you can't beat the rush of a club full of attractive girls theoretically all available to you. I never experienced that rush in a clinica.
The problem with this Centaurus analogy is at its peak it had attractive, slender girls that were harder to find in large numbers at other Rio termas. Was it my favorite termas? No, but it did have a niche and as they say it had location, location, location for the tourist crowd. You can literally walk in after an afternoon at the beach.
At 11:45 am this Saturday, only 1 girl on duty. Four more are espected today but they're allowed to report for work until 1 pm. Will head for Abobbura rather than wait. Difficult to hit paydirt.
Abbobura at 11:59am : about 8 to 10 girls.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2699330]I agree. Every time I have been there, all the guys are usually talking Portuguese and they even have their favorite girls they hang out with. Sitting at the bar right as you enter, you see the interaction between the guys and the girls they know. They are definitely locals and not tourists. There is absolutely no way tourists could keep a place open like Scandello. As for the quality. I haven't been to the other places because I always seem to find what I am looking for at Scandello and don't see a need tk go somewhere else.[/QUOTE]I always like to remind people that it's not an "either or" proposition. Meaning [B]do it all[/B]. Don't just take anybody else's word for it, good or bad. Go and see and monger in as many places and different types of establishments as you can, then decide for yourself. Then you do and be you. Stick with what you like, and no need to discredit anybody else's choices. And you'll bring a lot more credibility to the table too if you yourself have indeed been there and done that and can speak from direct experience about it.
One reason that Scandallo is not much discussed on the local forums is that it's not allowed on gpguia.
Will try to make this not too long.
Went to Scandello last night, first time there, arrived just after 10 pm. Place was not too crowded but was pretty packed by 11:30. About 60/40 girls to guys. Almost all the guys were locals.
The place;.
Very nice, clean, just like the photos. The second floor was closed, I went up just before they closed it, was a cool space.
The patio was also closed, but looked nice. Had a drink in the resto but didn't eat. Main floor where the action is was nice, had a live band.
Girls;.
Whatever type of girl you like will be there. I didn't see any stunners, but plenty of 8's and 9's. But some 5's and 6's too.
Prices;.
I spoke to 3 girls, all right in my wheelhouse, that is tall, thin, long hair with natural small to slightly medium breasts.
1st wanted 1,600 and immediately walked away when I offered only 800. Second asked 1,500, would not go below 1,200. Third, also asked 1,500, we settled at 1,000. Her name was Ananda, young, like 20, gave decent GFE and DFK, but pretty much dressed and left when it was over. I asked if I could see her for dinner or something, she said she doesn't work outside the club.
With entrance, drinks (I had 4 beers, bought 2 mixed drinks for girls), room, girl, táxis, I dropped 1,900.
I consider that very pricey, something I could not do all the time.
Conclusion;.
I'm glad I saw it, but for that price, it really isn't worth going back to. The place is nice, clean, but in the middle of nowhere.
I think Casarão is a better option as the girls there were on par with Scandello, maybe not as many, entrance much lower and you have all of Baixa Augusta to hand before and after.
My next trip going to hit a few CLínicas / prives.
I've had a bad spell so far.
First clinica girl on my first day was just my type. Only when we got into 69 position she complained that my stubble made her ticklish and that I shouldn't lick her pussy.
Day 2nd, the clinica girl had a protruding clit, which I hate, but that was not her fault. What was her fault is that she told me not to to stick my tongue into her pussy but rather to suck on her clit. Since when am I to be told what to do? He who calls the pipers calls the tune IMO.
Girls Nr 3 was the Scandallo girl I mentioned in a previous post (goofy plastic surgery), 1000 are and no BBBJs. Covered BJs are a turn-off as far as I'm concerned.
Girl Nr 4 was a very young gorgeous girl at Abbobura. She wanted to dim the light I said no. When we got into 69 I began my routine of sticking my tongue into her pussy and my tongue met with something hard I thought could be an intra uterine device that had come unstuck. On closer inspection it turned out to be something white, I asked wait a minute what's that inside your pussy? She told me it was a tampax, because, quote "my period will be coming soon, and we girls need to work every day you know". WTF! I knew girls work through their periods but this was the first time a girl told me to my face this was routine. Female entitlement. Soon a girl will have "to work while crapping you know". She will wank your cock in the toilet while dropping stinking turds, that's normal service you know, because "we girls must go on working".
Girl Nr 5 today, at Clinica. Pussy had a smell, no problem I'm not fastidious. But then while pounding the blood came out on the condom. Bingo again! I managed to finish. Rather ugly girl, poor figure, average face, but she was horny as hell, kept beating her clit while I pounded her, so it kind of saved the session. All the same, condom covered in blood, that was what I had smelled and tasted while on 69, thank you very much.
Good service my foot.
[QUOTE=XXL;2699629]Girl Nr 4 was a very young gorgeous girl at Abbobura. She wanted to dim the light I said no. When we got into 69 I began my routine of sticking my tongue into her pussy and my tongue met with something hard I thought could be an intra uterine device that had come unstuck. On closer inspection it turned out to be something white, I asked wait a minute what's that inside your pussy? She told me it was a tampax, because, quote "my period will be coming soon, and we girls need to work every day you know". WTF! I knew girls work through their periods but this was the first time a girl told me to my face this was routine. Female entitlement. Soon a girl will have "to work while crapping you know". She will wank your cock in the toilet while dropping stinking turds, that's normal service you know, because "we girls must go on working".
Girl Nr 5 today, at Clinica. Pussy had a smell, no problem I'm not fastidious. But then while pounding the blood came out on the condom. Bingo again! I managed to finish. Rather ugly girl, poor figure, average face, but she was horny as hell, kept beating her clit while I pounded her, so it kind of saved the session. All the same, condom covered in blood, that was what I had smelled and tasted while on 69, thank you very much.
Good service my foot.[/QUOTE]That's taking not one but two for the team good buddy! I hate it for you too! LOL! Dang!
Damn, you had like the worst luck in clinicas LOL. Worst for me was girl wanting to charge extra for BBBJ in a clinica.
[QUOTE=XXL;2699629]I've had a bad spell so far.
Good service my foot.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XXL;2699629]I've had a bad spell so far.
First clinica girl on my first day was just my type. Only when we got into 69 position she complained that my stubble made her ticklish and that I shouldn't lick her pussy.
Day 2nd, the clinica girl had a protruding clit, which I hate, but that was not her fault. What was her fault is that she told me not to to stick my tongue into her pussy but rather to suck on her clit. Since when am I to be told what to do? He who calls the pipers calls the tune IMO.
Girls Nr 3 was the Scandallo girl I mentioned in a previous post (goofy plastic surgery), 1000 are and no BBBJs. Covered BJs are a turn-off as far as I'm concerned.
Girl Nr 4 was a very young gorgeous girl at Abbobura. She wanted to dim the light I said no. When we got into 69 I began my routine of sticking my tongue into her pussy and my tongue met with something hard I thought could be an intra uterine device that had come unstuck. On closer inspection it turned out to be something white, I asked wait a minute what's that inside your pussy? She told me it was a tampax, because, quote "my period will be coming soon, and we girls need to work every day you know". WTF! I knew girls work through their periods but this was the first time a girl told me to my face this was routine. Female entitlement. Soon a girl will have "to work while crapping you know". She will wank your cock in the toilet while dropping stinking turds, that's normal service you know, because "we girls must go on working".
Girl Nr 5 today, at Clinica. Pussy had a smell, no problem I'm not fastidious. But then while pounding the blood came out on the condom. Bingo again! I managed to finish. Rather ugly girl, poor figure, average face, but she was horny as hell, kept beating her clit while I pounded her, so it kind of saved the session. All the same, condom covered in blood, that was what I had smelled and tasted while on 69, thank you very much.
Good service my foot.[/QUOTE]Sorry to laugh but this is some seriously bad luck. I have an issue like this in Colombia. I guess it's my luck and not what happens to everyone but I think I have a 50/50 chance of a girl having a super smelly pussy which is disgusting. This is across civilians met of tinder and in clubs for free as well. Hope your luck changes. I am in sp right now with great outcomes so far. Report to come.
[QUOTE=XXL;2699629]I've had a bad spell so far.
First clinica girl on my first day was just my type. Only when we got into 69 position she complained that my stubble made her ticklish and that I shouldn't lick her pussy.
Day 2nd, the clinica girl had a protruding clit, which I hate, but that was not her fault. What was her fault is that she told me not to to stick my tongue into her pussy but rather to suck on her clit. Since when am I to be told what to do? He who calls the pipers calls the tune IMO.
Girls Nr 3 was the Scandallo girl I mentioned in a previous post (goofy plastic surgery), 1000 are and no BBBJs. Covered BJs are a turn-off as far as I'm concerned.
Snip.[/QUOTE]Girl #1 Stubble is a no-no if you want to lick pussy. Shave or grow a beard.
Girl #2 Girl decides what she does in the room with a particular client other than letting him fuck her. Up to you to ask if she will do what you want with you, especially if it is something in particular you require. If you don't ask, you can't complain.
Girl #3 Did you ask if she did BBBJ? If you did and she said she would and then wouldn't, why didn't you cancel the session and complain to management? If you didn't, see above.
[QUOTE=XXL;2699629]I've had a bad spell so far.[/QUOTE]
"Born under a bad sign.
I been down since I begin to crawl.
[b]If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all".[/b]
[URL]https://youtu.be/uAFO4cBlS8o[/URL]
Or
[URL]https://youtu.be/-IIKE9p5SEw[/URL]
Or
https://youtu.be/uMOEabbiltQ
Have been here for almost a week and the below have been my experiences:
Girl 1: Giovanna from Abbobora. Abbobora has a impressively consistent lineup with all the girls between a 6. 5 and a 7.5 in my book. One of the odd things is you go through one door for the line-up and then go outside and through the other door for the room. I chose the branca Giovanna who is apparently from Rio Grande do Sul. Session was ok, she gave the standard BBBJ but her technique was weird and she did some weird stuff with her tongue during it. She let me touch and suck her body as well as 69 but unfortunately she avoided kissing. Ended up doing a couple of positions before I came. One thing I really didn't like about this place was the mattress. They use air mattresses which aren't particularly strong. I sunk pretty far in when I laid on it and it made it really difficult to get proper leverage to fuck hard. 130 for the room and 200 for the girl.
Girl 2: Fake Asian from PhotoAccompahantes. I really was in the mood for an Asian girl given the Japanese community in Sao Paulo but I found it difficult to find an appealing one on any of the higher quality escort websites so I ended up using PA. Terrible mistake. I didn't find any review of her but I let it go. Girl was not Asian but looked ok and was young. She was friendly at first but once we began sessioning, she was terrible. No towel to take a shower, just wet wipes. No BBBJ because of a cut in her mouth and no kissing for the same reason. No sucking her tits for an unspecified reason. Entire session was just garbage and I left after one position. Complete waste of 250 reais.
Scandallo: I met with two other forum users here before 7 PM to get the 200 entry which can all be used at the restaurant and bar. Overall quality was decent but not representative of the prices. As mentioned in the other posts prices are consistently around 1000. I suspect that a lot of the money for the club comes from entry, bar and restaurant since the food and drink is comparable to US club prices. The quality of the girls is decent but nothing that you can't find for much cheaper either at a higher end clinica or using the escort sites. The girls were about the same quality as some of the clubs and escort sites in Rio but were charging double the price. I was impressed by the environment though. It feels like a proper high-end club and the girls were dressed as such (though this may not be the best thing since you can't see what's under the clothes until you get to the room). I can understand the draw for it but I suspect that as some of the other forums have stated, this club is more for either the ultra rich in Brazil or for those who only very occasionally partake in this hobby. Even in the groups of 5-6 locals I saw here, only 1 or 2 of them ended up sessioning with a girl. I would imagine most girls here only have 2-3 sessions a week, which for them is more than enough to live off of.
Girl 3: Leticia from Miruna. Miruna clearly had a slightly lower quality than Abbobora, girls were ranging from a 5-7 but this was also reflected in the lower price. I picked Leticia and when we went to the room I was pleasantly surprised that she spoke rather good English. Took a shower and she began by massaging my feet and back. She then proceeded to give me a BBBJ and we fucked in cowgirl, missionary and finally in doggy. Unfortunately here pussy was not too tight so after about 10 minutes of fucking in doggy I just laid down and asked her to use here hand to jerk me to completion. I learned she has two kids, the younger of which is a year old, which would explain the loose pussy. Overall it was a good experience and totally worth the 250 Reais.
I will try to get 2-3 more sessions in before I leave but my overall opinion is that I prefer Rio. SP is nice for some side-hobbying during a business trip but the price to quality ratio is just not as good as Rio. There is variety here and I think you can find some of the top model-like girls if you go through the websites / twitter but I think it is too the level of all cities of comparable size to Sao Paulo. SP has however been better than Porto Alegre and Curitiba.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2699674]Girl #1 Stubble is a no-no if you want to lick pussy. Shave or grow a beard.
Girl #2 Girl decides what she does in the room with a particular client other than letting him fuck her. Up to you to ask if she will do what you want with you, especially if it is something in particular you require. If you don't ask, you can't complain.
Girl #3 Did you ask if she did BBBJ? If you did and she said she would and then wouldn't, why didn't you cancel the session and complain to management? If you didn't, see above.[/QUOTE]Wow I'm flabbergasted! I'm learning everyday, thanks, great to read from people who know what they're talking about.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2699593]Will try to make this not too long.
Went to Scandello last night, first time there, arrived just after 10 pm. Place was not too crowded but was pretty packed by 11:30. About 60/40 girls to guys. Almost all the guys were locals
I think Casaro is a better option as the girls there were on par with Scandello, maybe not as many, entrance much lower and you have all of Baixa Augusta to hand before and after.
My next trip going to hit a few CLnicas / prives.[/QUOTE]I decided to hit Casarao this past Friday night instead of Scandalo.
I always enjoy Casarao, however, IMO the majority of Casarao girls are a no go.
It's that girl you spot though, and the energy you feel during the pre game interview that make it worthwhile.
You just have to filter out the Casarao no go girls, LOL.
I usually find someone that I like. Whether it be for a session that night or a contact number for a later hook up.
Friday night did not disappoint.
I was chatting with a girl I liked at about 1 am and got her contact info.
I was a bit tired because I had already enjoyed the company of 2 girls, separately, during the day.
Making my way towards the exit, Uber already ordered, I spotted a beauty.
My plans changed.
My perfect type, and she had a brilliant beautiful smile. I had to meet her.
I cancelled my Uber and tried to find her again in the crowd.
I finally did, downstairs.
We talked a while, and though as I said, I was tired, I had to be with her now.
She was very very pretty, very sweet, and with promised TLC in the room.
In conversation she quoted 400 for the hour, plus the room.
As we got talking more, I told her, let's go have fun, I've got 300 in cash for you plus I'll pay the room on a card.
She quickly agreed.
She fulfilled her TLC promises, and we had a very nice time.
She will most definitely be contacted again shortly to meet up outside the club.
Again, Casarao can not compare to Scandalo on an elegance level. Fun can surely be had, and beauties can be found.
The cost factor is obviously much less if you include entrance fees, drink costs, room cost, etc.
You will have to wade thru some fatties, and fuglies, but it's fun.
I’m off to Rio this evening, for my birthday.
Back to São Paulo in a week. Ate!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2699530]I always like to remind people that it's not an "either or" proposition. Meaning [B]do it all[/B]. Don't just take anybody else's word for it, good or bad. Go and see and monger in as many places and different types of establishments as you can, then decide for yourself. Then you do and be you. Stick with what you like, and no need to discredit anybody else's choices. And you'll bring a lot more credibility to the table too if you yourself have indeed been there and done that and can speak from direct experience about it.[/QUOTE]Exactly!
Too bad certain mongers just don't understand this and keep insisting that "their" way is the only way and the right way. Eerily similar to the evangelical mentality.
[QUOTE=Nordico;2699551]One reason that Scandallo is not much discussed on the local forums is that it's not allowed on gpguia.[/QUOTE]Thanks for pointing that out. I could only find ancillary mentions of Scandallo. As in under an escort's review thread, someone mentions she has worked at Scandallo. Or when discussing Casarão, they make reference that they have been to Scandallo and other boates.
In fact, I found active threads for Casarão and Cafe Foto. Boates are actively discussed, but over the years I have only read escort reviews.
We hear enough about boates here. I always figured the chances of finding the same Scandallo girl as some other member is very slim. Although a few cool gents, have given me contact info over the years.
Why do you suppose Scandallo is not mentioned directly? Is it a money thing as in they aren't paying to be listed?
[QUOTE=Sperto;2699316]Interesting to read about Scandallo in this thread.
I've never been to Scandallo. On the local forums there are very few positive reports about Scandallo. I've gringo buddies who lived and worked in So Paulo for almost 30 years. They told me it's a upscale club with very expensive GP's, but with a quality that's not impressive. In this thread it seems like it's paradise. Maybe the posters are impressed because they havn't gotten laid for ages, have very few other brazilian puteiros to compare with or simply because they feel the need an excuse to why they need to pay a months salary to get laid. It reminds me of the Centauros mongers in Rio. They overpayed a lot and wrongly thought they got the best quality. However, as I wrote, I've never been in Scandallo and I might be totally wrong. Maybe Scandallo could be the paradise even though it's not much discussed on the local forums.[/QUOTE]There are easily 150-200 girls per night there so there are all types and prices.
Don't need to session with a girl, can go and just have fun like most locals and get their number for later. Many do this to avoid the room or take out fee plus no rush service.
It is also expensive for the girls to work there between uber and penalty entrance fee for not going there the night before, food it can cost 400 R for them. So sometimes if they ask for 1000 and up its mostly to cover their cost.
Earlier this year I met a bombshell, it was her first night there and we spent 4 hours talking and she showed me a store she owns and she was at scandallo because she had to many bills to pay because of the pandemic and no business. She wanted more than 1500 R to go out but I was fine with it considering her situation and she is a solid 10. We never talked about sex but when we did it she let me go in bare. We spent a few days together at 1000 R per day, still less than a usual night at scandallo and she never went back and is ready to travel with me to anywhere so well worth the price of admission.
Last weekend, I met a 21 yo super fun to be around and never talked about sex and I said to her lets go watch a movie and eat junk food and she did not mention price. We spent 3 nights together and I had 1500 R on me and she was fine with it and said she wanted to stay the extra nights. We went to a shopping mall because I needed to buy something and she declined my offer to buy her an item she said she needed because she thought it was expensive at that store (500 R). She was not a new, probably started when she was 18 but never became jaded.
Point of the story, don't need to think about dropping a high price to go there get to know a few girls and have fun.
Can I meet the same kind of girl at less costly boite, maybe, at a clinica probably not.
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[QUOTE=TheCritic;2699720]"Born under a bad sign.
I been down since I begin to crawl.
[b]If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all".[/b]
[URL]https://youtu.be/uAFO4cBlS8o[/URL]
Or
[URL]https://youtu.be/-IIKE9p5SEw[/URL]
Or
https://youtu.be/uMOEabbiltQ[/QUOTE]It comes in all genres LOL!
I had to cancel a session at Clinica Brooklin today as the girl's monthly bleeding came with a vengance (big dark red blobs on the sheet even before we began). The girl said herself I "could cancel if I wanted". I did want of course, I was not a vampire. Reception gave me back my 300. I surmise working girls outside muslim countries preferentially work during their menses (boyfriend doesn't mind, who can blame him?). Whether a monger takes notice should depend I think on things like positions as well as acceptance of light dimming and red condoms (the latter being red for a reason).
Later in the afternoon I had a sucessful session at Clinica Prime with a girl I had sessioned at Miruna back in 2020.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2699862]Thanks for pointing that out. I could only find ancillary mentions of Scandallo.
Why do you suppose Scandallo is not mentioned directly? Is it a money thing as in they aren't paying to be listed?[/QUOTE]
If Connection is not mentioned either it must have to do with the same owner of those 2 places (Scandallo & Connection).
[QUOTE=Turgid;2699986]I have been on ISG for 10 years now and this is the worst series of reports coming out of Brazil ever. So many negative reports on Scandallo and the recent posts by DandyMan51 and XXL are worse than you'll read of any other country.[/QUOTE]I don't think it is all that bad. I just had a great session today with an online girl that I will post about later and Brazillian girls are probably still the best GFE I have experienced along with Mexican girls. However, I feel like there are significantly more girls who provide poor service than before so it takes more effort to find a quality girl. As for the cause of this, I'm not sure. Maybe it has something to do with post-Covid, maybe with girls being more entitled, maybe it has something to do with OF and Instagram. I don't know about Scandallo though. Perhaps someone who has been there recently and in years past can comment on whether it has changed or not.
Just came back from my best experience so far on this trip. Stella advertises as a masseuse who performs tantric and nuru but also has sex. I messaged the girl and she responded rather quickly. I went to her hotel close to consolocao station and checked-in with reception. Needed to provide a driver's license and was permitted to her room. The picture of her online are on-point and she has a tight body with bolt-on tits. Her face isn't as good as her body but isn't bad. Was welcomed inside and offered some water before going to take a shower. After the shower, I laid on the bed and was told to be face-up. Stella puts a couple of warm towels on my body and starts by going over different parts of my body with her hair an nails. It is a bit odd but relaxing. I turn around on my belly and she proceeds to do the same with my back before starting the nuru massage. She really is fit and makes and effort to massage all over using her tits and ass. I flipped and she continued the massage. She then went to do a handjob and blowjob but while doing it she (and I don't know how else to put this) stuck her finger in my ass. Honestly, I was not expecting it but the way she was massaging my dick it felt pretty good. She proceeded to deepthroat me while moving her finger into my ass and moaning. It felt surprisingly good and before I knew it I came in her mouth. She proceeded to keep sucking all the cum from my dick which really felt amazing and giving my dick a good massage until I was no longer hard. She then cleaned my dick off and stayed next to me until I got up. She asked if I wanted anything (water, chocolate, a shower) and I proceeded to take a shower. Stella was incredibly sweet throughout the whole process. She does allow for sex but I had no energy to proceed to fuck her after that. Definitely will go with her again if I can schedule it before I leave. Next time I plan to actually fuck that hot body of hers. Total cost: 500 Reais.
[QUOTE=XXL;2700034]I had to cancel a session at Clinica Brooklin today as the girl's monthly bleeding came with a vengance (big dark red blobs on the sheet even before we began). The girl said herself I "could cancel if I wanted". I did want of course, I was not a vampire.[/QUOTE]Ouch. You definitely run into some bad luck. Maybe the girls in the clinicas are in sync and you happened to be there for those 3 to 4 days. That has only happened to me once over a lot of visit.
The girl line up in the clinicas can vary greatly day to day. Feast or famine. That's why it great to be walking distance between 6+ plus clinicas in moema. Nothing you like in the first, then walk 5 minutes to the next one.
[QUOTE=XXL;2700034]
If Connection is not mentioned either it must have to do with the same owner of those 2 places (Scandallo & Connection).
[/QUOTE]I don't remember the reason why Scandallo is banned, but Connection has it's own thread.
[QUOTE=XXL;2699629]I've had a bad spell so far...[/QUOTE]At Scandallo or any club, you can test drive as much as possible before going to the room. I have girl that drop her pants to show me her bunda, or took out breasts to show they are real. LOL. All this can be done right on the couch in front of the elevator. You can even lie down with the girl to just make out on the sofa. I saw local did it so I copied it. LOL. The only girl that has refused DFK in public was at 4 x4 but her reason was valid so I took a gamble, and I am glad I did.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2700166]The only girl that has refused DFK in public was at 4 x4 but her reason was valid so I took a gamble, and I am glad I did.[/QUOTE]What was the valid reason for no DFK in public?
I have a good mind to make this place into my regular high-end club in SP if yesterday night was anything to go by.
Seemed girls were slightly better-looking than at Scandallo, were more sexily-clad and showed more interest. There were precious few men too so it felt like a buyer's market.
Girls asked for 800 or 600 and were willing to negotiate. Getting 500 should not be too much of an an uphill struggle though I was so thrilled with the girl I sessioned that I agreed to 700 from an asking price of 800. In the room the condom broke from the pounding but she made no fuss. It was more her fault than mine as she had brought no lube.
The invoicing is difficult to grasp: 150 from the cover charge is consumable and the room costs 170. However, when I checked-out I was made to pay 438 reais. I tried to upload a pic of the receipt here for info but got "upload of file failed", I don't want to waste a half-day on it.
[QUOTE=XXL;2700216]
The invoicing is difficult to grasp: 150 from the cover charge is consumable and the room costs 170. However, when I checked-out I was made to pay 438 reais. I tried to upload a pic of the receipt here for info but got "upload of file failed", I don't want to waste a half-day on it.[/QUOTE]Did you use card? Maybe they charge extra for that.
[QUOTE=FlowState985;2700269]Did you use card? Maybe they charge extra for that.[/QUOTE]I never use cards in clubs. However, did they charge extra or less than expected. If the cover charge is 300, the total should be 470, not 438.
On another subject, I just had an ATM breaking down on me at Bradesco when trying to withdraw 2500. I reached the final stage "wait for your banknotes" , waited for what seemed ages, then a message appeared saying "transaction not completed". Shortly after that the computer rebooted. I hope the money is not gone. I have nothing to show for it. It had to happen on the day I left my smartphone at the hotel and couldn't take a snapshot of the screen.
[QUOTE=XXL;2700273]..."transaction not completed". ...[/QUOTE]Could be the ATM is out of money. Usually it is best to change to anther machine. Once I did repeated withdraw after repeated failures, and it almost emptied my account without me seeing a dim. It was later refunded. I took picture but the US bank said to me pictures are not needed.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2700169]What was the valid reason for no DFK in public?[/QUOTE]The girl said something like some guests will complain but she said she has no problem in the room.
[QUOTE=XXL;2700034]I had to cancel a session at Clinica Brooklin today as the girl's [b]monthly bleeding[/b] came with a vengance (big dark red blobs on the sheet even before we began). The girl said herself I "could cancel if I wanted". I did want of course,[/QUOTE]GPS should let a BM know if they are on the rag. All is not lost if she is on her monthly it just means she can do other things or allow other things to be done to her. BBBJ, Tity-Fuck, CIF, CIM, HJ, etc. , then you decide if you want to go with them or get their number for a different time or if your in the area long enough then come back when she has finished her cycle. But to work and not tell until your lucky enough to see when in room unclothed ready to do the deal or in many cases either during or finished and seeing red all over the place including on your body is rudely unacceptable.
[QUOTE=XXL;2700273]"transaction not completed"[/QUOTE]Just log in or contact your bank. You will know if funds taken from account. Most cases there will be no activity on account since no funds were actually distributed. Check to be safe. If funds taken complain to your bank.
[QUOTE=XXL;2700216]I have a good mind to make this place into my regular high-end club in SP if yesterday night was anything to go by.
Seemed girls were slightly better-looking than at Scandallo, were more sexily-clad and showed more interest. There were precious few men too so it felt like a buyer's market.
Girls asked for 800 or 600 and were willing to negotiate. Getting 500 should not be too much of an an uphill struggle though I was so thrilled with the girl I sessioned that I agreed to 700 from an asking price of 800. In the room the condom broke from the pounding but she made no fuss. It was more her fault than mine as she had brought no lube.
The invoicing is difficult to grasp: 150 from the cover charge is consumable and the room costs 170. However, when I checked-out I was made to pay 438 reais. I tried to upload a pic of the receipt here for info but got "upload of file failed", I don't want to waste a half-day on it.[/QUOTE]I agree about having it on your list of go to clubs in SP, and I have visited there in all of my last four trips. And it was the only club open during Easter Friday with a sufficient selection. In my observation both the quality and quantity have been getting better. One of the things to watch out here are surprise charges like the barfine was around 300 reais and other misc BS charges.
[QUOTE=XXL;2700273]On another subject, I just had an ATM breaking down on me at Bradesco when trying to withdraw 2500. I reached the final stage "wait for your banknotes" , waited for what seemed ages, then a message appeared saying "transaction not completed". Shortly after that the computer rebooted.[/QUOTE]A similar thing happened earlier this year when I followed a friend to Bradesco. Transaction wasn't completed and the machine started to reboot with my friends card inside the machine. It was in the evening when the bank office was closed. We were lucky as I managed to catch some kind of bank manager leaving the bank. First she wasn't interested to help out as she was in a hurry. However I insisted, asked her politely and explained the emergency situation. Finally she called a number and some people gave her instructions on how to manage the machine from the backside and got the card out.
[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2700037]I don't think it is all that bad. I just had a great session today with an online girl that I will post about later and Brazillian girls are probably still the best GFE I have experienced along with Mexican girls. However, I feel like there are significantly more girls who provide poor service than before so it takes more effort to find a quality girl. As for the cause of this, I'm not sure. Maybe it has something to do with post-Covid, maybe with girls being more entitled, maybe it has something to do with OF and Instagram. I don't know about Scandallo though. Perhaps someone who has been there recently and in years past can comment on whether it has changed or not.[/QUOTE]Good to read that its not all bad. Brazil is close to top of my destination list when I feel comfortable to travel again.
[QUOTE=XXL;2700216]I have a good mind to make this place into my regular high-end club in SP if yesterday night was anything to go by.
Seemed girls were slightly better-looking than at Scandallo, were more sexily-clad and showed more interest. There were precious few men too so it felt like a buyer's market.
Girls asked for 800 or 600 and were willing to negotiate. Getting 500 should not be too much of an an uphill struggle though I was so thrilled with the girl I sessioned that I agreed to 700 from an asking price of 800. In the room the condom broke from the pounding but she made no fuss. It was more her fault than mine as she had brought no lube.
The invoicing is difficult to grasp: 150 from the cover charge is consumable and the room costs 170. However, when I checked-out I was made to pay 438 reais. I tried to upload a pic of the receipt here for info but got "upload of file failed", I don't want to waste a half-day on it.[/QUOTE]Seems to be so many places in Moema. I need to do a sex crawl thru there.
I did get a bit down on Scandello, because it was dang expensive. But it was a cool experience.
What was your total cost for your night at Bahama, and what did it include?
Thanks,
[QUOTE=Balboa;2699845]I decided to hit Casarao this past Friday night instead of Scandalo.
I always enjoy Casarao, however, IMO the majority of Casarao girls are a no go.
It's that girl you spot though, and the energy you feel during the pre game interview that make it worthwhile.
You just have to filter out the Casarao no go girls, LOL.
I usually find someone that I like. Whether it be for a session that night or a contact number for a later hook up.
Friday night did not disappoint.
I was chatting with a girl I liked at about 1 am and got her contact info.
I was a bit tired because I had already enjoyed the company of 2 girls, separately, during the day.
Making my way towards the exit, Uber already ordered, I spotted a beauty.
My plans changed.
My perfect type, and she had a brilliant beautiful smile. I had to meet her..[/QUOTE]Agree 100 percent.
Scandello is way nicer, cleaner and many more girls at a higher hotness level. I prefer talk thin small natural breasts with tight bundas, and Scandello had plenty of them. Casarão seemed to be filled with more fake boob, but lift girls. But I did get a number from a girl at Casarão who is my type.
I prob will traipse thru Scandello again, but Casarão is a bargain compared to it, and has so much going on around it to make a night of it. Scandello is in a dessert by itself.
Arrived at 10:30 pm like I did on Sunday. Line-up slightly less impressive but still good. When I left shortly after midnight after sessioning the same girl as on Sunday, only 4 or 5 girls had not been taken. Arriving at 10 pm or even 9:30 pm could be preferable to arriving at 10:30.
Cover charge + room charge + consumption = 465 reais (Had 2 soft drinks and a big portion of cassava chips).
Boate girls can be much girlfriendlier than the average clinica girls and they may feel less under pressure to work though their menses.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2700696]Seems to be so many places in Moema. I need to do a sex crawl thru there.[/QUOTE]For an unassuming small residential neighborhood, Moema literally has a sex shop on every block. 6+ clinicas, Bahamas club, Zeus strip club, and a few swing clubs.
The massage I tried out yesterday was at Alameda Joaquim Eugenio de Lima 1144 in Jardim Paulista ([URL]https://www.paraisotantra.com.br/terapeutas/[/URL]).
I had booked a "P-spot" prostate massage through Whatsapp. On arrival I was shown a masseuse on a screen. She looked like a 7. When she showed up she was maybe a 3. I listened to a boring 10-minute intro about Tantra and P-spot. It would have been even more boring had I had to listen to it in (broken) English rather than in Portuguese. The intro had something about erections but not about happy-endings. Indeed the massage ended not only without happy-ending, but also without any massage of the prostate. When it ended thus the masseuse gave me a spiel about her having felt the prostate massage was not "what my body really wanted". Money wasted: 350.
The massage I tried out today was at Av Moaci 556 in Moema ([URL]https://lakshmispa.com.br[/URL]).
This time there was an attempt at happy-ending and prostate massaging of sorts. The girl was an 8 on the pic sent to me on Whatsapp but a 5 in flesh and blood. Many things in the service were a turn off for me: the room was too dark, the girl undressed herself naked to do things that DID NOT belong to this type of massage or indeed the specific massage I had booked (= Nuru massage with P-Spot). Had I been looking for a girl to rub her naked tits on my cock, masturbate her pussy on my shin-bone, position herself in 69 to shove her pussy in my face, I'd have gone to one of the sex clinicas to cherry-pick a good-looking girl from a line-up, thank you very much! Money wasted: 400.
After this disappointing massage at Av Moaci I walked to Abobbura and had a full session there.
One (further) complaint I have about clinica girls so far is that they have tended not to curve properly in doggy. I would sympathise if my cock was overlong but I'm not Long Dong Silver. I want a girl to throw out her butts upwards like she is opening herself to be penetrated (that's what turns me on in my favourite position which is doggy). Curving ever so little concave downwards is a big turn off and it feels like the girl is trying to push my cock out. This girl at Abbobura today went so far as no nearly forcing me to withdraw at the last minute (coitus interruptus). I hate being thwarted in this way.
[QUOTE=XXL;2701061]One (further) complaint I have about clinica girls....[/QUOTE]From your reports, I can see now why some guys don't like SP and stay away after visiting. They have been entertaining. Too bad it's not going as well as you expected. I would probably not have returned 6 times in the last year if I had those experiences.
[QUOTE=XXL;2701061]...One (further) complaint I have about clinica girls so far is that they have tended not to curve properly in doggy. I would sympathise if my cock was overlong but I'm not Long Dong Silver. I want a girl to throw out her butts upwards like she is opening herself to be penetrated (that's what turns me on in my favourite position which is doggy). Curving ever so little concave downwards is a big turn off and it feels like the girl is trying to push my cock out. This girl at Abbobura today went so far as no nearly forcing me to withdraw at the last minute (coitus interruptus). I hate being thwarted in this way.[/QUOTE]I empathize with you as I have had that experience one too many times. Doggy happens to be my favorite position and I like to finish there. A big turn off when the girl does not cooperate.
[QUOTE=XXL;2701061]..........One (further) complaint I have about clinica girls so far is that they have tended not to curve properly in doggy. I would sympathise if my cock was overlong but I'm not Long Dong Silver. I want a girl to throw out her butts upwards like she is opening herself to be penetrated (that's what turns me on in my favourite position which is doggy). Curving ever so little concave downwards is a big turn off and it feels like the girl is trying to push my cock out. This girl at Abbobura today went so far as no nearly forcing me to withdraw at the last minute (coitus interruptus). I hate being thwarted in this way.[/QUOTE]Was she very young like 19 or thereabouts? I have gotten that from very young clinica girls especially at Abbobora and Enjoy.
Wednesday night at Casarao with another ISG member. About 5 girls when I arrived at 10:30 ie half an hour after opening time. One hour later about 25 girls were milling about. At about 1am when I left the place was uncomfortably packed.
Cover charge is 50 and girls will immediately accept 500.
I like this place even better than Bahamas. It is not only cheaper but what a collection of girls of all types! All types of looks, figures and attire. This place is naughtier than Scandallo or Bahamas.
The girl I sessioned was in a frenzy. She ended up admitting that she was high. "Bolinha" was what she had taken. The word can mean meth or xstasy (or anything between the two in terms of methylation). The girl said it made her horny and eager to have sex, lol.
There are quite a few similar-looking boates in that neighbourhood. This is THE epicenter of Sao Paulo night life.
[QUOTE=XXL;2701389]Wednesday night at Casarao with another ISG member. About 5 girls when I arrived at 10:30 ie half an hour after opening time. One hour later about 25 girls were milling about. At about 1am when I left the place was uncomfortably packed.
Cover charge is 50 and girls will immediately accept 500.
I like this place even better than Bahamas. It is not only cheaper but what a collection of girls of all types! All types of looks, figures and attire. This place is naughtier than Scandallo or Bahamas.
The girl I sessioned was in a frenzy. She ended up admitting that she was high. "Bolinha" was what she had taken. The word can mean meth or xstasy (or anything between the two in terms of methylation). The girl said it made her horny and eager to have sex, lol.
There are quite a few similar-looking boates in that neighbourhood. This is THE epicenter of Sao Paulo night life.[/QUOTE]I was in SP throughout February, and I frequented Casarao a lot.
I think 300 or 400 should be just about enough for a session with a girl in there.
I still think Scandallo is the best in terms of the overall. But this place has the ideal combination of affordability and quality.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2700856]For an unassuming small residential neighborhood, Moema literally has a sex shop on every block. 6+ clinicas, Bahamas club, Zeus strip club, and a few swing clubs.[/QUOTE]I will be back in SP the second half of June. Going to do a sex crawl thru some of the Clínicas there in Moema.
Thanks to all for the great info on all the places there.
This is the joint right next to Casarao.
Cover 30, girl 200, room 50. The rooms are in-house. The wole set-up a bit squalid but squalidness can be piquant. About 10 girls at 11:30 pm. Quality below Casarao but still 2 girls "I'd like to fuck". The girl I fucked was simple and cooperative. She wetted her knickers at my Samsung Z-Fold more than if I had turned out to be Bratt Pitt.
What I didn't like: staff unfriendlier than Casarao (if that is possible), street tout / doorman pestered me for a tip when I came out.
I was supposed to arrive in SP last Saturday but ended arriving Tuesday because of flight cancellations. I am glad Brazil has removed COVID testing requirements at least for vaccinated. As usual, breeze through immigration and customs at GRU. Immigration did check proof of vaccination.
Casarao:
I had bad experiences during my first (pre-pandemic); as a result I have decided to not visit the club again. XXL wanted to check out the club so have decided to visit again to see if it is any better. I second XXL's assessment of the lineup. There were way more pretty girls compared to my first visit. Many good looking girls looked normal with little makeup and weren't dolled up with quarter inch thick makeup like lots of girls at Scandallo.
The club started slow but was packed by midnight. I picked a pretty girl named Laura and had a good time. She did everything that was agreed upon.
I saw a tall girl I was interested but couldn't find her when I looked for. Luckily, I found her in clinica Maruna the next day. Had a great session with anal (extra).
Went back Thursday, the lineup was not as strong as Wednesday, but there were still many pretty girls. Met XXL again. I picked an 18 year old very cute girl named Tiana (or some sounds like that), a bit shy and reserved, and had a good session. She actually asked for R500 (I paid her R400) which was surprising considering another 18 yo the other day quoted R1000. I think Casarao is a good club to checkout even if you are a Scandallo aficionado.
Without Portuguese I struggled to communicate (apps can help but not same as speaking the languag) as most of the girls didn't even speak little bit of English.
Scandallo:
Initially thought of visiting Connection on Friday but ended up going to Scandallo close to midnight. Entry R400 with R200 consumable.
The club was busy, lots of girls and guys. Yes, there were many pretty girls, but it felt like shifting through lots of crap to find them.
I always enjoy the spectacle of a few Asian killers (cute and cuddly barbie types) showcasing their craft of slaying countless victims during the course of the night. I am particularly a fan of one thin Asian girl (I saw first time in May last year) who slays a victim every 2 hours (could be less than that). She literally drags the victims from the club floor to the elevator. I guess time is money.
Anyway, I ended my night at the club with a great session with Sol, a cute 21 yo girl. She quoted R1500 but eventually agreed for R800. I don't like girls starting at R1500-2000 hoping you wouldn't go below 50%. Do you guys think the whole bargaining game might influence the quality of the sessions provided?
Clinicas:
Prime is still my favorite clinica for me. Abbobora still occasional hit and lots of misses for me, it is the most expensive clinica in the area and they don't even have a mouth wash in the room.
Maruna is working better than Abbobora for me.
Visited 57 friends club but didn't session.
Anybody, what are the rooms like at Casarao? Meaning what's the quality like? Decent showers, cleanliness, etc.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2702195]Anybody, what are the rooms like at Casarao? Meaning what's the quality like? Decent showers, cleanliness, etc.[/QUOTE]Most of them are very small with a small bed and shower. They are decently clean. Basic room in 4 x4 therma is the closest in comparison I can think of. Yesterday I was in a room with a stripper pole which was bit bigger than others I have been in. I didn't like the quality of towels provided, they were quite worm. I wouldn't go there with too much expectations.
Visited casarao Saturday night. Lineup was weaker then Wednesday & Thursday. Looks like the lineup quality varies considerably day to day. That may not be a bad thing because of cheap entry (R50) you can go to some boete.
I found another cute 18 yo with amazing natural see cups. She quoted R250 for half hour and R400 for hour. I could have brought the price down but chose not to novitiate as the price was reasonable. Once in the room, she insisted on paying upfront which set of alarm bells. I tried to convince her I would pay after the session but she didn't budge. I reluctantly paid her expecting worse, but surprisingly she kept her word and provided a great session.
Friday night met a girl that looks like porn star and wanted 1000 but quickly accept 700 for pse. Saturday Girl with Russian background but Brazilian body at Scandallo quoted me 3500 to go out but told her I don't pay more than 1500. She said she'll take 2000 I told her comeback when she will accept 1500. She waived at me But I already met a girl that is a replica of the porn star Nikki Benz. She accepted my offer 1500 to go out and got my pse. Point is don't pay more than 1500 to go out and 700 R for upstairs.
Arrived SP in the evening and checked into Renaissance. After settling in, I went to the lobby bar to have a couple of drinks. Several girls milling about and obviously trying to make eye contact. None of them stood out, and I was contemplating going straight for Scandallo as I didn't really need to get up early the next day.
Got talking to a girl while having a cigarette at the benches outside (and it didn't really dawn on me until later that she didn't actually smoke, but just went there to make contact). She was slim, slightly milfy, probably early 30's with some obvious bolt-ONS. Maybe a little to big for her frame. She had decent english.
From posts in here, I kind of expecting her to quote me something silly, but she asked 1800 pernoit and said she wouldn't ask for payment until the morning. Weighing in the jetlag, I countered 1500 which she accepted. Had another drink and talked a bit more, but then took our drinks upstairs as the hotel had the aircon set to permafrost mode in the lobby.
In the room she provided a very decent BBBJ, and sex in multiple positions. She seemed to really enjoying herself touching and asking me for DATY, which had her bouncing off the walls. Jetlag and all I couldn't finish, so eventually went to sleep.
Next morning woke up, had a shower and continued off where we had left it. Better luck this time and finally had a good finish, payed her as agreed and off she went.
Overall good service, albeit not a girl I would have picked from the crowd. She insisted on giving me her number and said she was available anytime, but I would not repeat.
Met up with XXL in Casarao at 10.30 pm shortly after they opened the doors. A bit empty from the beginning, and mostly somewhat heavy set girls at first, but as we sat there gradually some quality began to arrive. After about an hour the place was a lot busier and quite a good number of girls present. Ratio not bad either.
Eventually there were girls in all shapes and sizes, and I was a bit undecided what direction I wanted to go. But then suddenly as we stood in the downstairs area, a girl in a tight white catsuit appeared in front of me. The suit she wore didn't leave much to imagination and I couldn't get my eyes off her ass. Although before I got zoomed in, I had noticed her good looks and pretty smile. I thought her an 8+, but before I knew it and got a chance to catch her eye, she was gone again. Her friend started chatting me up, but given her English was no better than my Portuguese, I got google translate out. Hoped should wouldn't take offense. And typed that I would rather be talking to her friend. She just smiled, went off and returned with the catsuit lady 2 minutes later. She didn't have any English at all, so beyond her name (something that sounded like Bia), it was google translate again. She quoted me 350 and 600 for half / full hour respectively. I would have taken that in a heartbeat, but countered 500 as I thought that was the proper thing to do. She accepted right away and off we went to a room.
Once in the room and she got undressed I felt like I had just won the lottery. OMG. Brazilian signature tanlines and unbelievable curves. Ass, thighs, boobs, everything. Not too big and not too small, just perfect. She just went from an 8+ to well over a 9.
She started with a CBJ, and if it wasnt for the language barrier I would have asked her for BBBJ, even tipped her for that. Should have done that initially, but didn't want to interrupt the flow by bringing out google translate again. In any case, it didn't matter too much as I wanted her in multiple positions, so did all of that. Cowgirl, Missionary, Doggy, Reverse Cowgirl. She took a deep pounding like a champ. Eventually I finished in another CBJ watching her incredible ass in the air through the ceiling mirror. Excellent session, only downside the language barrier which seemed to make her just a little shy.
Would I repeat? Hell yes! Should have asked her number.
Hello gentlemen,
I'm event producer and before pandemics frequent traveler to Brasil, not only Rio and Sao Paulo, but many cities of the interior since 2002, the year Lula won the election. My last trip was 2019, before pandemics. The interior has a lot of stories to tell.
One experience I can share with you. Be patient in hotel lobbys during early hours. Once I took a lovely brunette from Caf Photo from Av. Juscelino Kubitschek to a hotel very close. It was a great experience, but the important part of this report happened right after.
The girl I picked was heading back to Caf, but a local talked to her in the hotel lobby and took her to a room. Right in the moment in front of me. The girl did not loose the chance and went upstairs. I understood clearly what he said because my Portuguese is fluent. Oh man, that was fast!! I said.
Few months later in Sao Paulo, I was heading to the restaurant for breakfast in my hotel early in the morning around 6 am, and I took the elevator. Two floors down a gorgeous girl entered the elevator. My *o-meter marked 100!! She had a messy look, bit drunk, cigarette smell, her body hot as fuck, tall as me (I'm 1,70 m), tight miniskirt, high heels, beautiful face but with some acne. She certainly had a hard sex night. So there she was, I could not miss the chance and remembered what the local did. So I partly turned to her (she was one step behind me, there are cams all over the place and it could be a harassments if my *o-meter failed) I opened my wallet and showed all the Reales (all the Dilmas) I had in cash and I said: Five hundred. She looked at me, gave it a thought and few seconds later she said: Pode ser (well, it can be).
We first took our seats in the lobby, she told me she had to go home, not in that moment, so she gave me her whatsappi and we fixed for later. The day after I finally fucked her.
So, next time you're in a hotel lobby, be patient and see if a GP (garota de programa of course) is leaving the building make an offer. But only if your well developed *o-meter marks 100! Maybe you can get an incredible price and experience right in the moment.
The hiddeneye.
P.S. Hope I don't make a mistake posting for the first time in years. I had an account on ISG some ten years before.
Hidden Eye. Good read on your hotel experience. (Never went to Cafe Foto).
Seems that the Brazil section should have a hotel sub-forum.
I will be staying for a week in the Vila Mariana bairro of Sao Paulo, quite close to Parque de Ibirapuera. Any one have some recommendations for lanchonete, reataurants, and small bookstore, coffee shops? Quiet bar, with no or low volume music would also be nice. Of course, I can consult with the hotel staff, but I don't have a girlfriend there, so probably stay sozinho.
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2702799] She said she'll take 2000 I told her comeback when she will accept 1500[b]........[/b]Point is don't pay more than 1500 to go out and 700 R for upstairs.[/QUOTE]What she will TAKE, Wow. You did the right thing. (I'll say less than or not more than 700 R to 800 R for upstairs.).
[QUOTE=PapaeNoel;2703419]Seems that the Brazil section should have a hotel sub-forum.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4069-Sao-Paulo-Hotels-and-List[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?569-Rio-de-Janeiro-Hotels-amp-Apartments[/URL]
Hi Papa Noel, thanks for your quote.
I stayed in Campo Belo area en 2013-2014, which is quite near to Ibirapuera. You've chosen a great area for clinicas de massagems. Good choice. As far as I remember, the Ibirapuera shopping center golden days have long passed, I only found a few lanchonetes to have breakfast near there. Also, the indianopolis street points very close, but I would recommend that area with a very experienced local only. I mean, very experienced. Congonhas airport is few minutes drive, so you'll have plenty domestic flights arriving and departing 24/7. If you're sleep is light, try to get a room not facing the airport.
I had a 50/50 experience in the area with in a club if I recall was Zeus. The place super slow and expensive, at least that day, targeting tourists by taxis who took commissions from entrance. But I met Daniella, a super lovely girl who stayed mith me all night and we had breakfast together. In terms of beauty she was a 7, but in terms of dinamite, she was 8 or 9 with me. I convinced her for a sexy photoshoot in the room. Never found her again because she was a a real nice girl. She signed the modeling agreement by simply writing "Daniella" kkkkkkkkkkk so lovely.
Good look and good to exchange experiences with the guys again.
HiddenEye.
P.S. Can I attach pics of the area in the post?
[QUOTE=PapaeNoel;2703419]Hidden Eye. Good read on your hotel experience. (Never went to Cafe Foto).
Seems that the Brazil section should have a hotel sub-forum.
I will be staying for a week in the Vila Mariana bairro of Sao Paulo, quite close to Parque de Ibirapuera. Any one have some recommendations for lanchonete, reataurants, and small bookstore, coffee shops? Quiet bar, with no or low volume music would also be nice. Of course, I can consult with the hotel staff, but I don't have a girlfriend there, so probably stay sozinho.[/QUOTE]
Hi Papa Noel, thanks for your quote.
I stayed in Campo Belo area en 2013-2014, which is quite near to Ibirapuera. You've chosen a great area for clinicas de massagems. Good choice. As far as I remember, the Ibirapuera shopping center golden days have long passed, I only found a few lanchonetes to have breakfast near there. Also, the Indianapolis street points very close, but I would recommend that area with a very experienced local only. I mean, very experienced. Congonhas airport is few minutes drive, so you'll have plenty domestic flights arriving and departing 24/7. If you're sleep is light, try to get a room not facing the airport.
I had a 50/50 experience in the area with in a club if I recall was Zeus. The place super slow and expensive, at least that day, targeting tourists by taxis who took commissions from entrance. But I met Daniella, a super lovely girl who stayed mith me all night and we had breakfast together. In terms of beauty she was a 7, but in terms of dynamite, she was 8 or 9 with me. I convinced her for a sexy photoshoot in the room. Never found her again because she was a a real nice girl. She signed the modeling agreement by simply writing "Daniella" kkkkkkkkkkk so lovely.
Good look and good to exchange experiences with the guys again.
HiddenEye.
P.S. Can I attach pics of the area in the post?
[QUOTE=PapaeNoel;2703419]Hidden Eye. Good read on your hotel experience. (Never went to Cafe Foto).
Seems that the Brazil section should have a hotel sub-forum.
I will be staying for a week in the Vila Mariana bairro of Sao Paulo, quite close to Parque de Ibirapuera. Any one have some recommendations for lanchonete, reataurants, and small bookstore, coffee shops? Quiet bar, with no or low volume music would also be nice. Of course, I can consult with the hotel staff, but I don't have a girlfriend there, so probably stay sozinho.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2703345]Few months later in Sao Paulo, I was heading to the restaurant for breakfast in my hotel early in the morning around 6 am, and I took the elevator. Two floors down a gorgeous girl entered the elevator. My *o-meter marked 100!! She had a messy look, bit drunk, cigarette smell, her body hot as fuck, tall as me (I'm 1,70 m), tight miniskirt, high heels, beautiful face but with some acne. She certainly had a hard sex night. So there she was, I could not miss the chance and remembered what the local did. So I partly turned to her (she was one step behind me, there are cams all over the place and it could be a harassments if my *o-meter failed) I opened my wallet and showed all the Reales (all the Dilmas) I had in cash and I said: Five hundred. She looked at me, gave it a thought and few seconds later she said: Pode ser (well, it can be).[/QUOTE]I'd say approach in the way you are most comfortable. While I'm not criticizing your direct approach, showing my wallet to a girl is not my style. Even if you are a bit more subtle, Brazilian women will figure it out. I've approached girls in similar circumstances with my bad Portuguese banter and they let me know the deal fairly quickly. With limited time in an elevator "Você quer festa?" would seem to make the point. It also likely won't offend a civilian woman.
As far as the guy in the lobby not every guy is so aggressive. I can't really blame him though. Brazilians (assuming he was) are more direct with women in general. There likely wasn't much time for him to move.
I recall when I was on Copacabana Beach with a regular of mine. She looked incredible in her Brazilian bikini. Some local dudes were ogling her. When she went to the barraca for drinks, the guys said they heard me talking about my flight later that evening. They asked if they could talk to her. I said sure. I will go for a walk in a few minutes. Sure enough, I looked back and they were exchanging numbers.
Two takeaways:
The locals seem to be able to figure things out quickly as far as the working girls. Perhaps it was my bad Portuguese and her bad English. They knew we were not a real couple.
I'm not patting myself on the back here, but guys need to share leads. One of the most amazing Brasileiras I ever hooked up with was a totally random lead from a Kiwi I met at a Copacabana bar. He was a good chap and he had me sold. He was young, good-looking and charming. I figured he scored quality women without money.
I shake my head when some member here says he's going to keep the contact to himself because he will be back in Brazil in a few months. Huh? She's a working girl. She needs to make money. She's not waiting for you.
[QUOTE=UniversalX;2703471]What she will TAKE, Wow. You did the right thing. (I'll say less than or not more than 700 R to 800 R for upstairs.).[/QUOTE]I've paid 800 R to go out but they usually leave early in the morning since they some other shit to do. 1000-1500 for them sleep and fuck again in morning and have breakfast. I take him to their apt to grab clothes for the next day so it doesn't seem too obvious. If you treat them like a GFE they'll give you GFE / pse!
As the Real gets stronger I'm going to lower my price range, maybe no more than 600 upstairs and 1200 to go out, exceptions for bombshells. Many girls prefer to go out because they don't want to spend 8 hours inside walking back and forth in high heels and they look to score 2 times at most inside so my 1500 R max is very on target what they want to make per day.
Yeah, now that you mention, maybe mine was a very bold approach to the girl, I could have gotten a slap in the face. LOL but having just seconds to get to the first floor, that was the only idea I had.
Brazilians guys are very respectful with someone else's companion. Argentinians are way more agressive. They simply come to your girl with no hesitation and talk to her just like you weren't there. Friend, girlfriend, escort. No distinction.
I can't say very little about Rio in terms of paid sex, I booked an incall back in 2002! Hahahaha 20 years ago, and it was a good fuck but nothing compared to other cities in Brasil. Maybe it's only my idea, but I find Rio way too expensive (lodging, meals, taxis, etc etc) I've heard a lot about Fortaleza, few undred Kms to the North.
I rather prefer Southern Brazil and the interior. I crossed Brasil twice from Peru. 3000 Km by bus. There are great spots on the way to Brasilia. Prices are much lower and quality is just fine.
HiddenEye.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2703607]I'd say approach in the way you are most comfortable. While I'm not criticizing your direct approach, showing my wallet to a girl is not my style. Even if you are a bit more subtle, Brazilian women will figure it out. I've approached girls in similar circumstances with my bad Portuguese banter and they let me know the deal fairly quickly. With limited time in an elevator "Voc quer festa?" would seem to make the point. It also likely won't offend a civilian woman.
As far as the guy in the lobby not every guy is so aggressive. I can't really blame him though. Brazilians (assuming he was) are more direct with women in general. There likely wasn't much time for him to move.
I recall when I was on Copacabana Beach with a regular of mine. She looked incredible in her Brazilian bikini. Some local dudes were ogling her. When she went to the barraca for drinks, the guys said they heard me talking about my flight later that evening. They asked if they could talk to her. I said sure. I will go for a walk in a few minutes. Sure enough, I looked back and they were exchanging numbers..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2703592] Also, the Indianapolis street points very close, but I would recommend that area with a very experienced local only. I mean, very experienced. [/QUOTE]Very few mentions of street walking girls in SP. I have seen a few street girls on Indianapolis Ave and wondered why it was desired or necessary to pick up girls on the streets. Given the abundance of clinicas, boates, prives and online girls. Have you or others tried? What's good about them. Cheaper?
About street points. This is not my case but we all know people who look for trans, fat girls, quick fucks, blow jobs and even watching and touching only. And all sorts of fetish that make a long etc etc.
I had a friend who took us to street points cause he enjoyed watching trans, that's it. Drunk guys in the car and a parade of up the knee boots. Dangerous? Yes!!
But situation in other countries of South America has been so rude, that many (I mean many) Venezuelans and Colombians had to hit the streets because there were not enough bars or indoors to locate them. During pandemics bars were closed and they had to walk the streets.
In Lima, Medellin and Bogota, there were so many women, that if you had the gutts to walk those places, you could find true jewels in the middle of the jungle. I made a trio during pandemics with two Venezuelans that were just ok and all, including room was around US $80.
World is just crazy.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2704488]Very few mentions of street walking girls in SP. I have seen a few street girls on Indianapolis Ave and wondered why it was desired or necessary to pick up girls on the streets. Given the abundance of clinicas, boates, prives and online girls. Have you or others tried? What's good about them. Cheaper?[/QUOTE]
I wanted to compare Casarao on a peak day like yesterday with what I'd seen on other days at the same time (between 10 pm and midnight). There was not much difference. I now reckon at least 2 thirds of the girls in Casarao come on most days. This means that visiting different boates in SP is a must if you want to scan a large variety of new girls. In fact variety (mostly new girls every day) might be something Scandallo has which other boates lack.
I was less impressed than on my first visit with the line-up but that was probably because everything gets old. A majority of the girls were big girls but that's not to say they weren't attractive. I sessionned Eduarda who was one of the tallest girls I'd seen so far at Casarao, for 400 (asking price 500). She turned out to be very nice and even moderately shy, which I wasn't expecting owing to her stature and her demeanour in the club. The session was good but I noticed she kind of shrank from me ever so slightly during the money shot, a type of attitude I've met with in SP which I complained about in previous post. Also, she carried no lube. Still, I intend to give her another chance on Sunday at my place because she had an unspoilt unsophisticated air about her which intrigued me.
Went to Scandallo on Wednesday, arriving around 10 pm. There was easily around close to 100 girls, and in the next hour or so more and kept arriving. At 11.30 pm the place was packed, must have been somewhat over 150 girls, and a very reasonable ratio, maybe as much as 2:1, I guess mainly locals with money to spend. Being a first timer it was a bit overwhelming. I would say at least half of them were doable, so you start to get picky. Little too much silicone all around for my taste, but they did look good.
Girls were all dressed up, some more provocative than others. You could see quite a lot of tits and ass. Girls very friendly, partying and smiling if you caught their eye. Not being a Portuguese speaker, it was a bit challenging to strike up a conversation. At one point I was trying to talk to a really naturally attractive blonde, slim, nice shape and good ass in a tight, thin long dress that really presented her body well. She seemed genuinely sweet and smiley, but it was just too awkward not being able to talk to her, as she was one those where you would want to have a conversation, not just ask the price on a translator.
Eventually I got talking to a morena with a hot body (who did speak OK english), and she did quote me 2000, because "she did everything", but would take 1500 without anal. I countered 1000, and eventually we settled for 1200 all inclusive.
In the room she was very friendly and provided good service, although only CBJ, which I of course should have negotiated up front. But we did various positions, and she took a deep anal doggy without complaint. After quite a while, I decided not to finish (which she did complain about in a nice way).
Back in the club I roamed around talking to various girls, but ended up talking to a very good looking mulatto which looked to have a good body, who had decent english. She quoted me 1000 which I accepted, but upstairs they had issues with my credit cards (they used some specific machines for that, all other places it worked fine). So we finally agreed for 1500 going back to my hotel instead. Back in my room at the hotel, she simply stepped out of her dress, and was completely naked underneath. She had nice natural see cups and a smoking hot ass. Again it was CBJ (I never seem to learn), but very good sex in all kinds of positions, finished in side, while she was masturbating until she came and squeezed the hell out of my dick, which did it for me. Very good, and I would definately repeat giving the chance.
I was at Kilt 30 years ago. Back then it was huge and was the top club in SP (like Scandallo is nowadays). Nowadays not much is left. The old building (a sort of castle) is no more.
I arrived at 10 pm, ie 1 hour after opening time. Right next to the gate I saw a narrow door with a neon that said "hotel". The cover charge was 50 to sit at the bar and 80 to sit on one of the sofas. Girls' drinks cost 50.
About 6 girls were standing about. Place was too dark for me to assess the girls. Dim light is one thing I dislike about boates (as opposed to clinicas).
40 minutes later, not a single new girl had come in, and this was a Saturday. It looked and felt like I was in for a long wait if I wanted to get lucky here, so I decided to leave and go to bed.
I'll take a leave from boates over the next week, alternating instead between clinicas and known girls at my place.
Regarding Carpaccio18's post and covered BJs, I now recall my Casarao girl on Friday also wanted CBJs. She is to come to my place tomorrow at 11am. Will she still insist on CBJs? My feeling is girls in boates are much more likely to want covered blow-jobs than girls at clinicas.
[QUOTE=XXL;2704952]Regarding Carpaccio18's post and covered BJs, I now recall my Casarao girl on Friday also wanted CBJs. She is to come to my place tomorrow at 11am. Will she still insist on CBJs? My feeling is girls in boates are much more likely to want covered blow-jobs than girls at clinicas.[/QUOTE]I've never had a CBJ in Brazil ever from any girl taken from any type of establishment or source. I just make it clear I want oral "sem camishina", and that has worked every single time. The only time I had any kind of issue was with a pretty, big titties blonde from the old Bomboa. She was insisting on a CBJ, but I objected and pestered her so much about it that she finally relented. The thing is, she was so damn drunk that it wasn't any good! So, I decided to just cut the BBJ short and fuck her drunk ass and nut!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2704979]I've never had a CBJ in Brazil ever from any girl taken from any type of establishment or source. I just make it clear I want oral "sem camishina", and that has worked every single time. The only time I had any kind of issue was with a pretty, big titties blonde from the old Bomboa. She was insisting on a CBJ, but I objected and pestered her so much about it that she finally relented. The thing is, she was so damn drunk that it wasn't any good! So, I decided to just cut the BBJ short and fuck her drunk ass and nut![/QUOTE]Another Gringo rip off if one does not speak Porto. Sometimes they'll say if you are "cherroso" meaning they'll do a sniff test before bbj and should never be an upcharge!
Just ask "oral sem ou com".
[QUOTE=XXL;2704952]I was at Kilt 30 years ago. Back then it was huge and was the top club in SP. Nowadays not much is left.
I arrived at 10 pm, ie 1 hour after opening time. Right next to the gate I saw a narrow door with a neon that said "hotel". The cover charge was 50
About 6 girls were standing about. Place was too dark for me to assess the girls.
40 minutes later, not a single new girl had come in, and this was a Saturday.[/QUOTE]Good report, but want to ask you. Were all of the girls there freelancers, as in wearing normal clothes? Years ago, there were some girls that danced in bikini (of course they also had live sex show back then as well). What about the 3 boates that used to be across the street? I'm guessing they are all gone?
30 years was a few years before I got to know about Kilt. I remember when they opened up the second level, and there were some privados to take a garota. Bet that is closed off nowadays.
I was thinking of going there last night, but made other plans.
[QUOTE=PapaeNoel;2705095]Good report, but want to ask you. Were all of the girls there freelancers, as in wearing normal clothes? Years ago, there were some girls that danced in bikini (of course they also had live sex show back then as well). What about the 3 boates that used to be across the street? I'm guessing they are all gone?
30 years was a few years before I got to know about Kilt. I remember when they opened up the second level, and there were some privados to take a garota. Bet that is closed off nowadays.
I was thinking of going there last night, but made other plans.[/QUOTE]The old huge building was destroyed. Kilt relocated in smaller premises across the street in 2012. I saw at least another boate a stone's throw away, also relocated for sure. Yes there were two large boates back then. Arousing shows. You could take girls to cubicles where they danced for you on a table (and let themselves be tongued). Before arriving at the cubicles girls would do a short stop-over at the toilet (to do a line?). Wicked place back then.
Yesterday the girls were dressed up more like in Scandallo rather than in shockingly sexy outfit.
I didn't see the show but I am pretty sure sex shows are now banned in SP. No more girls doing handjobs in porn theaters either.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2704979]I've never had a CBJ in Brazil ever from any girl taken from any type of establishment or source. I just make it clear I want oral "sem camishina", and that has worked every single time. The only time I had any kind of issue was with a pretty, big titties blonde from the old Bomboa. She was insisting on a CBJ, but I objected and pestered her so much about it that she finally relented. The thing is, she was so damn drunk that it wasn't any good! So, I decided to just cut the BBJ short and fuck her drunk ass and nut![/QUOTE]Same here. Well, to be exact, only one out of hundreds I've had in Brasil demanded a condom for oral. And I remember that instance well because it never happened before or after. It's pretty much unheard of. And my Portugues isn't very good.
[QUOTE=Combo;2705131]Same here. Well, to be exact, only one out of hundreds I've had in Brasil demanded a condom for oral. And I remember that instance well because it never happened before or after. It's pretty much unheard of. And my Portugues isn't very good.[/QUOTE]There are some garotas de programa who don't want to take CIM though. For this, I will also inquire. Most I have been with are OK with taking "leite" in the mouth (and on their bodies) but some would rather not. Oh, and I'm also not a Portuguese speaker. But I know enough (and plenty of transferable Spanish) to ask for what I want.
I am just back from my 49 day SP trip and I am spent, KKK. But even though I knew I needed a break from the nightly girly action, I didn't want to leave Brazil. Now I am only 2 days back in Wokeville, USA (sexual prison) and I am already planning my next Brazilian excursion in the fall. I really like the girls here. They look great and they perform admirably well.
So, over the course of my 49 nights, I did not have one bad session. Not one girl who did not perform adequately, although they all can't be top 10 allstars. Somebody has to come in last place 2nd to last place, ect, and not be repeat worthy. But, on the other side of the coin, I had many favorite girls and I repeated with some of them a number of times. I even fell big time for a Scandallo girl that I met in October 2021. I think I posted a report of our bisexual menage a trois reunion night back in the middle of April. What a great night that was!
Anyway, no Brazilian girl has ever tried to give me a CBJ this trip or on my 2 previous trips. All my BJ's were BBBJ's. In fact, it was very common to receive more than one BJ per session and a number of my girls offered to finish me off with CIM and I am not talking about a fake CIM pull out job. Believe me, guys, those girls took in everything I had to give them down to the last drop and then wiped their mouths, rinsed, and came back to bed to make out. Ha Ha. God, I love SP girls!
So, I don't know what to make of this CBJ shit some of you guys have recently reporting. I believe the reportage; it is just that it is so different from what I experienced that it is hard for me to imagine it. Listen guys, don't accept BS! If a girl tries to down sell you on a CBJ during the interview, don't negotiate. Walk away. She is no good. If a girl won't give you a BBBJ in the bedroom, end the session. Walk out on her! Serves her right. BBBJ is the default in Brazilian brothels. Everyone knows it. No negotiation is necessary.
Now BBFS is another matter. Personally it is my one complaint on Brazilian girls because I have found Brazilian girls to be very conservative on this issue. Much more conservative than even Thai girls who are the most conservative girls in SE Asia as far as condoms are concerned. This trip, for example, I only barebacked 2 girls. One was that Scandallo girl I mentioned in the preceding paragraph. The one I think fell for. KKK. But, she only began to bareback me on our 3rd session this trip, which was our 8th session historically speaking. A 2nd Scandallo girl barebacked me on our 1st night together, but only after I went down on her, gave her an organism, and then I bribed her 200 br so I din not have to wear a condom. I repeated with that one 2 more times, 3 times total even though I was subsequently locked into the upsell, her original value plus the 200 br. But it was worth it IMHO.
Not all clinicas are open on Sundays and it seemed those few that are open were slower than on week-days, in other words they hardly benefited from the diminished competition. Miruna at opening time had only one girl. Luckily for me she was kind of my type and I needed action because the girl who had agreed to visit me at my place had let me down and my sildenafil was working. The session was ok but I couldn't finish. I wondered whether taking 100mg of sildenafil every day for weeks was not numbing the sex receptors in my (little or big) head.
So off to Prime where they had pencilled the name of 5 working girls for this Sunday in their A3-sized notebook. Only one, a petite mulatta, was available at this time (12:30) but again she was kind of my type so I took her to the room. On the way up I saw a second girl (a plus-size, not my type at all) reporting for work but not yet available for the presentation.
The take-home point is that Sunday would be a good day to have your regular girl come to your place as there's scant action to be had at the clinicas.
Saturday on the other hand had felt like a week-day, only with more clients. Another practical note about Saturdays: money changers in Brazil are closed on Saturdays as well as on Sundays, good to keep in mind if, like me, you didn't feel comfortable about withdrawing cash on bank holidays (outside banking hours) lest your card should remain stuck in the ATM when no staff were around to help. Saturday was also a bad day for lunching at shopping malls (bad overcrowding between 12h and 14h).
[QUOTE=Axel Heyst;2705212]...
Anyway, no Brazilian girl has ever tried to give me a CBJ this trip or on my 2 previous trips. All my BJ's were BBBJ's. In fact, it was very common to receive more than one BJ per session and a number of my girls offered to finish me off with CIM and I am not talking about a fake CIM pull out job. Believe me, guys, those girls took in everything I had to give them down to the last drop and then wiped their mouths, rinsed, and came back to bed to make out. Ha Ha. God, I love SP girls!...[/QUOTE]You're luckier than I've been. Not that I mind that much as I'm not a blow-job man, much less a CIM one. I'm making this comment for prospective SP mongers to be able to form an opinion from various experiences. Still, henceforward I may ask girls in boates to confirm they offer "oral sem camisinha", just for the hell of it.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2705212]...
Anyway, no Brazilian girl has ever tried to give me a CBJ this trip or on my 2 previous trips. All my BJ's were BBBJ's. In fact, it was very common to receive more than one BJ per session and a number of my girls offered to finish me off with CIM and I am not talking about a fake CIM pull out job. Believe me, guys, those girls took in everything I had to give them down to the last drop and then wiped their mouths, rinsed, and came back to bed to make out. Ha Ha. God, I love SP girls!...[/QUOTE]I got CBJ treatment once from a girl that I already made out in the boate for over an hour. She was going to give me CBJ in the hotel, I was able to talk her into BBBJ but it was an effort that I simply refused CBJ. Another one is in Clinica Miruna that I posted a report. I got a new girl, and she wanted CBJ. I refused and got rid her and ordered another girl while I was naked in the room, LOL. The new girl came in wanted 100 more for BBBJ. I said no, paid and left. There was another one in trash terma in Rio.
I am heading to SP tonight, getting there Tuesday afternoon.
Was thinking of doing a pub / sex crawl in Moema on Wednesday to a few of the clínicas there, maybe hit 3, session at some point.
Any mongers want to go with me and hang out?
I'm pretty flexible on time, but was leaning towards around 8 pm.
Maybe include a dinner or just a regular bar at some point.
So if anyone was thinking of a clínica in Moema on Wednesday, maybe we can meet up.
[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2699751]Have been here for almost a week and the below have been my experiences:
Girl 1: Giovanna from Abbobora. Abbobora has a impressively consistent lineup with all the girls between a 6. 5 and a 7.5 in my book. One of the odd things is you go through one door for the line-up and then go outside and through the other door for the room. I chose the branca Giovanna who is apparently from Rio Grande do Sul. Session was ok, she gave the standard BBBJ but her technique was weird and she did some weird stuff with her tongue during it. She let me touch and suck her body as well as 69 but unfortunately she avoided kissing. Ended up doing a couple of positions before I came. One thing I really didn't like about this place was the mattress. They use air mattresses which aren't particularly strong. I sunk pretty far in when I laid on it and it made it really difficult to get proper leverage to fuck hard. 130 for the room and 200 for the girl.
Girl 2: Fake Asian from PhotoAccompahantes. I really was in the mood for an Asian girl given the Japanese community in Sao Paulo but I found it difficult to find an appealing one on any of the higher quality escort websites so I ended up using PA. Terrible mistake. I didn't find any review of her but I let it go. Girl was not Asian but looked ok and was young. She was friendly at first but once we began sessioning, she was terrible. No towel to take a shower, just wet wipes. No BBBJ because of a cut in her mouth and no kissing for the same reason. No sucking her tits for an unspecified reason. Entire session was just garbage and I left after one position. Complete waste of 250 reais...[/QUOTE]Yeah just on the fake Asian this is one my filters when looking for a girl on photosaccompanhantes although so does have a large Japanese population it is not common to see pros with this profile so usually an skeptical when I see Asians. It does stink bc I would love to have an Asian once in a while. I will do Bangkok soon.
I found very few posts about "ficha rosa" girls in the Brasil on the forum, so let's give it a quote.
Promotional models are booked for events, ranging from parties to tradeshows. From my experience I can confirm, and I hope Covid has not changed this, great dates for visiting Sao Paulo events is November, that's when the "Salao do Automovel" (cars), "Salao duas Rodas" (bikes) and "Sao Paulo Grand Prix" (Formula 1) take place. Among the regular promotional models at these events, you'll find solid 9's and 10's. But not all are escorts, the ones that work after hours are exactly "Ficha Rosa" girls. Promotional models at the Grand Prix will more likely to be ficha rosas. The owners of the trademarks they work for, book ficha rosas for the after parties of these events. Most, but not all, promotional models at events will give you their whatsapp if you're kind, but good level of Portuguese will be necessary.
I had the chance to contact a girl who would help me doing some video reporting and interviews in the Salao do Automovel, the day we met, she got late, she was drunk, and few minutes later she told me she worked in Bomboa the last night. So, the interviewer was an escort and we ended up fucking in my room of course. Few weeks later, back in the job I looked her Facebook account, she happened to be a promotional model ficha rosa and winner of a small beauty contest in her hometown Brasilia. Such a lovely brunette.
So, November guys, you'll love the ficha rosa girls if you're patient enough to ask and wait.
Here an article about this matter: [URL]https://www.cartacapital.com.br/sociedade/ficha-rosa-2690/[/URL].
P.S. Can I upload blurred pics of these girls? If so, I will purchase a membership.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2705627]I am heading to SP tonight, getting there Tuesday afternoon.
Was thinking of doing a pub / sex crawl in Moema on Wednesday to a few of the clnicas there, maybe hit 3, session at some point.
Any mongers want to go with me and hang out?
I'm pretty flexible on time, but was leaning towards around 8 pm.
Maybe include a dinner or just a regular bar at some point.
So if anyone was thinking of a clnica in Moema on Wednesday, maybe we can meet up.[/QUOTE]Maybe start earlier in the day for a clinica crawl. The clinicas close around 9 or 10 pm but the line up falls off around 8 pm. I think many girls are going for their last session around 8 or going to leave at that time. Friends 57 reopens as a boate at 9 pm with no fix pricing. Enjoy says they open until 11 p but I wouldn't count on it.
You have a plan be to go to Scandallo or Casarao late.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2706088]Maybe start earlier in the day for a clinica crawl. The clinicas close around 9 or 10 pm but the line up falls off around 8 pm. I think many girls are going for their last session around 8 or going to leave at that time. Friends 57 reopens as a boate at 9 pm with no fix pricing. Enjoy says they open until 11 p but I wouldn't count on it.
You have a plan be to go to Scandallo or Casarao late.[/QUOTE]Really good to know, thanks.
I will go around 5-6.
Went last night, got there just after 11. Was like 5 to 1 guys to girls. And the talent level of the girls was about a 6 at best. Have to note though, the guys were nothing a woman would find attractive either. Old short and fat. But I wasn't there for them, so who cares.
I stayed until midnight and it started picking up. But still no woman to my taste. It must have been bimbo night, almost all the girls were frizzy hair, silicone and huge axes, and thick. Tiger Woods would have been in heaven.
Just then, my boss walks in, didn't see me thankfully. I was surprised he knew if the place as he claims he is totally against paying for sex, but there he was. He immediately went to the basement so he definitely had been there before. I left, went to the boite right next door, depressing. I did have a nice conversation with a girl from Rio, bought her a drink. She had really pretty eyes, but was also in the bimbo catagory. She had a friend and they wanted to do a 3 some, but it was almost 1 and I was tired, plus they just didn't do it for me.
Two recommendations,
If going to Casarão, go late, like 12:30-1.
2nd, don't bother with that place right next door, really awful.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2706081]I found very few posts about "ficha rosa" girls in the Brasil on the forum, so let's give it a quote.
Promotional models are booked for events, ranging from parties to tradeshows. From my experience I can confirm, and I hope Covid has not changed this, great dates for visiting Sao Paulo events is November, that's when the "Salao do Automovel" (cars), "Salao duas Rodas" (bikes) and "Sao Paulo Grand Prix" (Formula 1) take place. Among the regular promotional models at these events, you'll find solid 9's and 10's. But not all are escorts, the ones that work after hours are exactly "Ficha Rosa" girls. Promotional models at the Grand Prix will more likely to be ficha rosas. The owners of the trademarks they work for, book ficha rosas for the after parties of these events. Most, but not all, promotional models at events will give you their whatsapp if you're kind, but good level of Portuguese will be necessary.
I had the chance to contact a girl who would help me doing some video reporting and interviews in the Salao do Automovel, the day we met, she got late, she was drunk, and few minutes later she told me she worked in Bomboa the last night. So, the interviewer was an escort and we ended up fucking in my room of course. Few weeks later, back in the job I looked her Facebook account, she happened to be a promotional model ficha rosa and winner of a small beauty contest in her hometown Brasilia. Such a lovely brunette.
So, November guys, you'll love the ficha rosa girls if you're patient enough to ask and wait.
Here an article about this matter: [URL]https://www.cartacapital.com.br/sociedade/ficha-rosa-2690/[/URL].
P.S. Can I upload blurred pics of these girls? If so, I will purchase a membership.[/QUOTE]This is not new, most "models" in BR have at some point been providers if they do not come from a rich background because they are always being propositioned by clients or agencies they work for.
Look in Capa Sexy magazine, probably all of those "models" are available.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2706250] Just then, my boss walks in, didn't see me thankfully. I was surprised he knew if the place as he claims he is totally against paying for sex, but there he was. He immediately went to the basement so he definitely had been there before.[/QUOTE]I often wondered what I would do if this happened to me (or if it was a good acquaintance or somebody). I did have a colleague years ago who said that he had been to 4x4 in Rio, and that it was a "cool" place. I acted like I had no idea what he was talking about. But we all know that there are others out there who we know in some capacity who are mongers just like us. It's not just those if us who patronize ISG and sites like it. Is it your work colleague, a family member, a friend? Lonster, how do you think this might impact your relationship with your boss, if at all? I certainly would not tell him that you saw him there! That would be embarrassing for the both of you, and could have unintended, negative career consequences. Best to keep it to yourself. Besides, he could deny it was him, and try to turn it back on you. Anybody else here have any similar sightings or bump into anybody you know at a den of prostitutes or at a sex club? If so, please do tell, including how you handled the situation.
Of course it's not new, I only said I found only one post talking about "ficha rosa" models.
There are many women that exercise sporadic prostitution, let's say one or two times a year (whenever extra money is needed). Sugar babies (there are fantastic ones) fall in this category.
Here an article I find useful:
[URL]https://lfsluts.com/full-time-part-time-and-sporadic-prostitutes/[/URL]
One thing we must say about brazilian escorts. Most of them love sex, no matter if they are full time or part time prostitutes. They fuck trully well.
Tim Maia, famous brazilian singer from the 80's, used to say: "Our bitches fall in love and pimps feel jelousy".
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2706273]This is not new, most "models" in BR have at some point been providers if they do not come from a rich background because they are always being propositioned by clients or agencies they work for.
Look in Capa Sexy magazine, probably all of those "models" are available.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2706481]Of course it's not new, I only said I found only one post talking about "ficha rosa" models.
There are many women that exercise sporadic prostitution, let's say one or two times a year (whenever extra money is needed). Sugar babies (there are fantastic ones) fall in this category.
Here an article I find useful:
[URL]https://lfsluts.com/full-time-part-time-and-sporadic-prostitutes/[/URL]
One thing we must say about brazilian escorts. Most of them love sex, no matter if they are full time or part time prostitutes. They fuck trully well.
Tim Maia, famous brazilian singer from the 80's, used to say: "Our bitches fall in love and pimps feel jelousy".[/QUOTE]Most BR providers I've been with truly enjoy sex and want to achieve organism which enhances the GFE / pse. Most providers I've been with outside of BR do not care to organism which were less enjoyable experience.
Most BR providers prefer steady clients over going to the club / clinic everyday less wear on the body so the first encounter they try hard to make it memorable so you want to see them again outside but if you are a gringo just visiting they know they won't see you again and might get a subpar experience which has been most of experience outside of BR.
Many club girls that go sporadically just want to meet a sugar or BF and not have to go to work as much, these are usually smart and attractive.
I should have contributed more while there but now that I'm not occupied and have my sights on MDE I should get Brasil out of my system. Seeing as I spent at least half of my time in Sao Paulo I'll summarize things here.
I ventured to SP, Curitiba, Campinas, Rio de Janeiro, and Recife. I reccomend SP for most needs and especially to first timers as it is the only place where you will find any locals that can speak English. There are a handful of American expats living in SP, several more live in Rio.
I'll get it out of the way and say that Rio does have some Pros over SP:
Cheaper in general unless during holidays.
A much more intuitive metro system that is much easier for a foreigner to use.
And it is the place to go if you prefer darker women.
An interesting note is that SP, RJ and Recife all had different dialects. Not even accents, simple words are pronouced completely differently. I did not spend enough time in Rio to give a fare assesment but safety was the largest Con and a frequent concern. I spent my time in SP almost exclusively in VilaMariana, Moema, Ibiripuera and even Consolocao and I always felt safe. Republica and Centro in Sao Paulo are not, especially at night.
Clinicas-Tangara, Moema Prime, Miruna. That is all you need to know. I practically lived at Tangara, at 120 you can't beat the price and they have fair priced bar downstairs. The owner (a woman) even started feeding me. I checked out many others but those 3 were the most consistant with quality and rooms.
Boates- hyperinflation has made the nightclubs less tenable. You're basically paying Europe prices when you add up the fees. Many girls expect a minimum of 500 per hour. At Casarao Augusta most will go down to 400. My compatriots and I have all but written off Scandallo, girls there want 1,000. CafeFoto new location was reportedly 350 to enter and HAS NO rooms. Gaugin was dead when we went Thursday, it was 200 to enter and they still tried cheating me on the nunber of drinks I had. Prices were more reasonble at Connection but lineup was mediocre. In this respect the larger Termas in Rio like 4 x4 are actally better because its one house fee and the girls are mostly nude.
Brasilian people ultimately made the trip a positive one. Mostly friendly amd easy to get a long with. They very much like to be social with English speakers.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2706381]I often wondered what I would do if this happened to me (or if it was a good acquaintance or somebody)... Lonster, how do you think this might impact your relationship with your boss, if at all?...[/QUOTE]I introduced my boss to mongering, and we are planning a trip together to the FKKs this summer. When I started mongering earlier, it did not take him long to figure out that I was a monger. Every time I took a trip somewhere, he and a few others love to look at the pics and listen to my story. Many of those folks became mongers. I have to say that I was always concerned that one of the SOs would complain to mine. Luckily that has not happened to my knowledge. I also made an effort to limit my mongering circle.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2706381]I often wondered what I would do if this happened to me (or if it was a good acquaintance or somebody)... Lonster, how do you think this might impact your relationship with your boss, if at all?...[/QUOTE]I introduced my boss to mongering, and we are planning a trip together to the FKKs this summer. When I started mongering earlier, it did not take him long to figure out that I was a monger. Every time I took a trip somewhere, he and a few others love to look at the pics and listen to my story. Many of those folks became mongers. I have to say that I was always concerned that one of the SOs would complain to mine. Luckily that has not happened to my knowledge. I also made an effort to limit my mongering circle.
[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2706869].... I practically lived at Tangara, at 120 you can't beat the price and they have fair priced bar downstairs. The owner (a woman) even started feeding me.....[/QUOTE]I did not know she owned the place, I thought she was just the mamasan. She has phenomenal customer service skills; she all but kisses me when I enter the place. Incidentally in 2016 I saw the best looking provider I have ever seen in Brazil there. Unfortunately I could not session her as she was busy. Never saw her again.
I'm heading to Sao Paulo in a few weeks and I'll have a few hours late the Saturday afternoon. Was thinking about checking out the Bahama Club or Scandello. It's probably not that busy and maybe not that many girls but anyone have any experience there for late afternoon (4-7 pm) If there a better place I should check out? Thanks in advance.
I am planning a 3-night trip with a girl to spend 2 full days at the Bete Carreiro theme park in Penha (Santa Catarina state). I want the return flight to SP to be to Guarulhos because I fly back to Europe from Guarulhos on the very next day. A travel agency could be better able to book such a package (Congonhas-Navegantes flight with return flight Navegantes-Guarulhos + hotel in Navegantes + park entries).
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2706896]I introduced my boss to mongering, and we are planning a trip together to the FKKs this summer. When I started mongering earlier, it did not take him long to figure out that I was a monger. Every time I took a trip somewhere, he and a few others love to look at the pics and listen to my story. Many of those folks became mongers. I have to say that I was always concerned that one of the SOs would complain to mine. Luckily that has not happened to my knowledge. I also made an effort to limit my mongering circle.[/QUOTE]Had my boss found out I knew of his down low lifestyle, probably would not be good for me. He doesn't really have the ability to fire me, but could make my life difficult plus, would be really weird being together after he is a biblethumper and always claiming to be so pious. I have met his wife a few times too, and see her at work social functions.
[QUOTE=Lonster;2707532]Had my boss found out I knew of his down low lifestyle, probably would not be good for me. He doesn't really have the ability to fire me, but could make my life difficult plus, would be really weird being together after he is a biblethumper and always claiming to be so pious. I have met his wife a few times too, and see her at work social functions.[/QUOTE]It's often the ones speaking the loudest against something who are engaging in it themselves. I'm sure many of us recall Elliot Spitzer. There was someone who made sure that people were being prosecuted for prostitution while he engaged in it himself.
Stayed the last half of May. Visited Scandallo, Bomboa, a gazillion clinicals, and tried a few outcallls. I will highlight specific experiences in a different post.
An interesting observation was that at Scandallo, I met this hottie with a tight flawless body and we spent a lot of time together, including one session and shared contacts. She is a passionate kisser with a very friendly demeanor, but overall performance was average at best.
Fast forward Sunday afternoon I go to Moema Prime, and my Scandallo 'girlfriend' shows up in the lineup. I did not pick her and she obviously got pissed based on the text messages she sent me. I thought this reaction was simply ridiculous. If anything, I am the one who felt cheated because a paid 4 X more than I should have for her pussy. The main reason why I go to the clubs mainly for the social experience, not to session.
I ignored the lady, until she sent an apologetic message a couple of days later. We ended up having dinner together and she spent the night at my place without any mention of a fee. Said she, and many, many ladies, work multiple venues to fit their day jobs or school schedule which I believe (another hottie I met at Abbobora indicated she works Scandallo some nights and 'invited' me). Also indicated she is doing it to pay for college, which makes pro mongers like me yawn. Nice lady though.
Tidbit: I was waiting for a room at Prime, and out of one of the rooms walks this short stooped old man of at least 90 years with the broadest grin on his face. Whoever said mongering is not medicine.
[QUOTE=PenguinMike69;2707307]I'm heading to Sao Paulo in a few weeks and I'll have a few hours late the Saturday afternoon. Was thinking about checking out the Bahama Club or Scandello. It's probably not that busy and maybe not that many girls but anyone have any experience there for late afternoon (4-7 pm) If there a better place I should check out? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I've been to clinica prime and Scandallo on Saturdays around that time in the afternoon. You could get great sex with a hottie for cheap at prime but it gets really busy at that time especially Saturday and you may have to wait and get lucky if a hottie becomes available. On the other hand you cannot beat the Scandallo experience if you are willing to spend more. They used to have a free buffet on Saturdays and there are many hotties available. I've always lucked out there on late Saturday afternoons. One time with a 20 something porn star looks branca (except for silicon tits haha) part timer who said that she was a medical student.
Over the course of about 2 weeks, I sessioned with more than 30 ladies, mostly clinicas, but also outcalls and 1 Scandallo previously mentioned. As always, the Brazilian women are the best in the game by far. I will only highlight extreme ends of spectrum so aspiring mongers know who to avoid and who to seek.
I had three bad sessions, listed from the worst:
1. Kin Center, bait and switch. The lady that showed up in the room was different from the one I picked in lineup. Said she was Mel, while I had picked a Paulina, very different sounds so I doubt I was misheard. I was already butt naked with no Portuguese to defend myself so let her stay. She was not pretty and had fake titties, which I hate. Her attitude was worse than her looks. After an unsuccessful attempt at BBBJ I cut my losses after 10 min and just left. Her BJ skill was decent though, but her attitude made it impossible to get a hard on.
2. Larissa, Club 57. Hot chick with bleached blond-reddish hair. Decent attitude, but not much interaction and the only CBJ I got this trip.
3. Leticia, Abbobora. Poor attitude and little interaction. The only rushed service I got this trip. In and out in about 20 min. A shame because this place charges a premium rate, so you would expect that they vet the girls better.
I had a ton of good experience, only the exceptional ones are listed:
1. Karen, Moema Prime. Dethroned my previous overall best of Brazil. A tall lady, with a tight slim body. Excellent in every way, passionate, BBBJ with true deep throat, excellent IOP, you name it. Also gave very good massage between pops, and then washed the massage goo off me with soap in the shower. I fell in love instantly!
2. Bia, Clinica 268, Bosque de Saude. Went by a different name in another clinica last year, so this was a repeat. My previous best of Brazil. Still excellent in every way, repeated with her, twice.
3. Ariella, Moema Prime. A mulata with exceptional sexual energy and IOP. The best BBBJ I ever had in my life. Has a tongue ring and knows how to use it. True deepthroater. Repeated with her.
4. Aline, Indy. The most unusual experience. A young lady with a flawless body and natural Bush. Very soft and sensual, more like making romantic love than banging a hooker. Tightest coochie in the Western hemisphere. Excellent IOP and BBBJ skill.
5. Adriana, Enjoy. Had the best connection with this lady. Very hot and shapely. Best butt this trip. Excellent attitude, IOP, and great skill all round, with a massage skill that rivaled Karen. Would be the one to take home to Mama this trip.
6. Lais, Moah, Av Moaci. Skinny lady with a very strong sex drive and excellent IOP. Slight mommy damage, but her skill will make this a non issue. By the way the owner of this clinica also owns Indy, and it is the cheapest in the area at 150/ hour.
7. Bianka, Prime. May be my first pregnant experience. Unassuming and shy, but warms up very nicely and enjoys the experience. Prefers the man to take charge, open to a lot of things.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2707625]...
3. Leticia, Abbobora. Poor attitude and little interaction. The only rushed service I got this trip. In and out in about 20 min. A shame because this place charges a premium rate, so you would expect that they vet the girls better...[/QUOTE]The first clinica I went to because I heard it was the best. I suspect some girls in this place take advantage of new customers. I had a similar experience with the girl played dumb with limited service. I also left in less than 30 minutes because the girl made me feel she was done. I never went back again.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2707625]
3. Leticia, Abbobora. Poor attitude and little interaction. The only rushed service I got this trip. In and out in about 20 min. A shame because this place charges a premium rate, so you would expect that they vet the girls better.
[/QUOTE]I think I remember this girl. Didn't she act like she was annoyed and impatient? Like she had "try to be done quickly, I have other things to do" written on her face the whole time?
[QUOTE=TheCane;2707556]It's often the ones speaking the loudest against something who are engaging in it themselves. I'm sure many of us recall Elliot Spitzer. There was someone who made sure that people were being prosecuted for prostitution while he engaged in it himself.[/QUOTE]Then there was Jim Baker who criticized fornication while indulging more than most mongers on ISG.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2707625]........Aline, Indy. The most unusual experience. A young lady with a flawless body and natural Bush. Very soft and sensual, more like making romantic love than banging a hooker. Tightest coochie in the Western hemisphere. Excellent IOP and BBBJ skill.
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6. Lais, Moah, Av Moaci. Skinny lady with a very strong sex drive and excellent IOP. Slight mommy damage, but her skill will make this a non issue. By the way the owner of this clinica also owns Indy, and it is the cheapest in the area at 150/ hour.[/QUOTE]Kib123, it might be obvious to many, but may I ask what is IOP?
Does Aline have a web presence or contact info?
Thanks for the report.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2707906]Kib123, it might be obvious to many, but may I ask what is IOP?[/QUOTE]IOP = Illusion of Passion. Brazil has so many IOP magicians.
[QUOTE=XXL;2707853]I think I remember this girl. Didn't she act like she was annoyed and impatient? Like she had "try to be done quickly, I have other things to do" written on her face the whole time?[/QUOTE]That is her 100%.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2707906]Kib123, it might be obvious to many, but may I ask what is IOP?
[/QUOTE]What Neb said, used to describe that heightened experience we all seek that doesn't feel acted.
[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2708003]IOP = Illusion of Passion. Brazil has so many IOP magicians.[/QUOTE]I thought it was real. Now you ruin it for me.
God bless Brazil!!
Once someone said about Sao Paulo: That city can give you more sex than you can handle.
True.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2707625]Over the course of about 2 weeks, I sessioned with more than 30 ladies, mostly clinicas, but also outcalls and 1 Scandallo previously mentioned. As always, the Brazilian women are the best in the game by far. I will only highlight extreme ends of spectrum so aspiring mongers know who to avoid and who to seek.
I had three bad sessions, listed from the worst:
1. Kin Center, bait and switch. The lady that showed up in the room was different from the one I picked in lineup. Said she was Mel, while I had picked a Paulina, very different sounds so I doubt I was misheard. I was already butt naked with no Portuguese to defend myself so let her stay. She was not pretty and had fake titties, which I hate. Her attitude was worse than her looks. After an unsuccessful attempt at BBBJ I cut my losses after 10 min and just left. Her BJ skill was decent though, but her attitude made it impossible to get a hard on.
2. Larissa, Club 57. Hot chick with bleached blond-reddish hair. Decent attitude, but not much interaction and the only CBJ I got this trip.
3. Leticia, Abbobora. Poor attitude and little interaction. The only rushed service I got this trip. In and out in about 20 min. A shame because this place charges a premium rate, so you would expect that they vet the girls better.
I had a ton of good experience, only the exceptional ones are listed:
1. Karen, Moema Prime. Dethroned my previous overall best of Brazil. A tall lady, with a tight slim body. Excellent in every way, passionate, BBBJ with true deep throat, excellent IOP, you name it. Also gave very good massage between pops, and then washed the massage goo off me with soap in the shower. I fell in love instantly!
2. Bia, Clinica 268, Bosque de Saude. Went by a different name in another clinica last year, so this was a repeat. My previous best of Brazil. Still excellent in every way, repeated with her, twice.
3. Ariella, Moema Prime. A mulata with exceptional sexual energy and IOP. The best BBBJ I ever had in my life. Has a tongue ring and knows how to use it. True deepthroater. Repeated with her.
4. Aline, Indy. The most unusual experience. A young lady with a flawless body and natural Bush. Very soft and sensual, more like making romantic love than banging a hooker. Tightest coochie in the Western hemisphere. Excellent IOP and BBBJ skill.
5. Adriana, Enjoy. Had the best connection with this lady. Very hot and shapely. Best butt this trip. Excellent attitude, IOP, and great skill all round, with a massage skill that rivaled Karen. Would be the one to take home to Mama this trip.
6. Lais, Moah, Av Moaci. Skinny lady with a very strong sex drive and excellent IOP. Slight mommy damage, but her skill will make this a non issue. By the way the owner of this clinica also owns Indy, and it is the cheapest in the area at 150/ hour.
7. Bianka, Prime. May be my first pregnant experience. Unassuming and shy, but warms up very nicely and enjoys the experience. Prefers the man to take charge, open to a lot of things.[/QUOTE]
I read on this forum and is it really R50? Or R50 plus some amount for mandatory consumables?
[QUOTE=NiceFirst;2708844]I read on this forum and is it really R50? Or R50 plus some amount for mandatory consumables?[/QUOTE]As far as I remember, it is 30 just entrance (no drinks) or 50 all consumable.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2708477]God bless Brazil!!
Once someone said about Sao Paulo: That city can give you more sex than you can handle.
True.[/QUOTE]Almost as good as Equatorial Guinea where, according to a recent report, there were gangs of girls going around and raping guys. I really did read such a report.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2708917]As far as I remember, it is 30 just entrance (no drinks) or 50 all consumable.[/QUOTE]That's it! I'll be back there tomorrow and I'm sure it'll be the same, but I'll confirm.
There were 4 other clients waiting on the sofas when I arrived. Only 2 girls were available. The woman at front desk insisted on showing me pics of girls on her smartphone but I never pic girls on the basis of photos.
Up until now the only clinica that I've seen with a full line-up at mid-day has been Abobbura.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2708103][QUOTE=Nebulousity;2708003] IOP = Illusion of Passion. Brazil has so many IOP magicians. [/QUOTE] I thought it was real. Now you ruin it for me.[/QUOTE] Ahhh, Crap...the jig is up! Now you've gone and ruined if for me too...kkkk!
Although, I gotta say, on many occasions, it seemed pretty real to me. But I guess that has always been the Brasileiras' [i]"secret sauce"[/i]. So if that's[i] "as good as it gets[/i], I'll take it everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2709163]Ahhh, Crap...the jig is up! Now you've gone and ruined if for me too...kkkk!
Although, I gotta say, on many occasions, it seemed pretty real to me. But I guess that has always been the Brasileiras' [i]"secret sauce"[/i]. So if that's[i] "as good as it gets[/i], I'll take it everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.[/QUOTE]By the way, IOP does not mean they are faking, many aren't. It just means you can't tell a difference.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2709381]By the way, IOP does not mean they are faking, many aren't. It just means you can't tell a difference.[/QUOTE]How to tell not faking?
Real GFE / PSE?
1. If they orgasm:
A. Like most guy the girl's vag is sensitive after climax and do not want to be touched there.
B. They scream really loud where everyone can hear.
C. Their body shakes or you feel their vag walls vibrate.
D. They are crazy wet after orgasm, most BR girls do not need lube.
2. If they bareback:
A. Most girls do not let just anyone bareback.
B. Gets tested together.
C. Anal bareback.
D. ATM.
E. BBJ swallow, most girls only do this only with BF's.
3. They go out for "free".
A. No price is mentioned for staying later or extra days.
B. They will go on vaca with you no price asked.
C. They want you meet their family.
If you get all 3, they're not faking it!
I get usually at least one of the 3 in BR and is why I love going there!
Feel free to add to the list.
This is Jhennifer from Bahia. Seems like the hottest babes I meet here are from Bahia. She likes churrasco, Segredolacrado lingerie, BMWs, Argentine Malbec, Felipe Rey, Colombian weed. Oh, and cash, credit or Pix!
Visited Casarao again this Friday, where I shortly met with another ISG member. Unlike on my previous Friday visit, the place was already full of guys and girls at 12:30. More or less one guy to a girl, with most guys staring from a distance rather than engaging the girls. What an array of sexy female figures! Only a good German FKK can rival with this for the sheer "child in a toyshop" effect on a monger like me.
It's like the old days at Help disco in Rio, only here there's less dancing and more standing and ambling around. The asking price for half an hour is 300. Opting for half an hour instead of one hour also halves the room price (50 instead of 100). I can now safely say that if you don't agree oral without condom beforehand at Casarao 90% of chances are you'll get covered blow-job. If good accommodation had not become so expensive in SP I'd say you'd be a fool to go for a mongering holiday anywhere else but in SP right now.
[QUOTE=XXL;2710018]Visited Casarao again this Friday, where I shortly met with another ISG member. Unlike on my previous Friday visit, the place was already full of guys and girls at 12:30. More or less one guy to a girl, with most guys staring from a distance rather than engaging the girls. What an array of sexy female figures! Only a good German FKK can rival with this for the sheer "child in a toyshop" effect on a monger like me.
It's like the old days at Help disco in Rio, only here there's less dancing and more standing and ambling around. The asking price for half an hour is 300. Opting for half an hour instead of one hour also halves the room price (50 instead of 100). I can now safely say that if you don't agree oral without condom beforehand at Casarao 90% of chances are you'll get covered blow-job. If good accommodation had not become so expensive in SP I'd say you'd be a fool to go for a mongering holiday anywhere else but in SP right now.[/QUOTE]You are right:
1. SP 5 Star hotel prices are getting ridiculous unless you have amassed plenty hotel points and voucher night credits, but 4 star hotel prices are still in the reasonable camp. I managed to book the Renaissance for 6 nights, the Intercontinental for 6 nights, and the Hyatt for 4 nights all on points and vouchers for a part of my upcoming October visit.
2. There is no comparison in nightlife between SP & RJ. SP is world class. RJ is not IMHO. But RJ has urban beaches if that is your thing. I just spent 6 weeks in SP and 4 nights in RJ and I think that ratio is about right. 10 to 1 in favor of SP. On my next trip I am skipping RJ completely and instead I am taking my favorite Scandallo girl to Ihabela Island for 4 nights. If this little side trip goes well, I will take her up north to the dune beaches on my Spring trip.
I am sure both cities have 10's that are like Victoria Secret models. But what about average clinica girls? In Medellin for example, the cost of 1 HR full service is +/- 25 USD (100 k COP). Based on my readings of the Brazil threads, it seems that the average coast is around 300 Brazil Reals, or 60 USD. Since the money is twice the amount, does service and quality two times better?
Edit: to be more specific, New Life in Medellin is 25 usd (95k cop) for one hour, and Prime in Sao Paulo is 50 usd (250 reals) for the same amount of time. In my opinion, New Life's quality is a hit or miss, but quantity has always been good. Even if I don't pick a girl, I think it is toatlly worth it to pay 1 dollar to see their line up. At twice the cost, how does Prime compare?
I've been eyeing on Brazil and finally booked a ticket to visit fior the first time since my visa free stay is coming to an end.
[QUOTE=DonMedellin;2710061].... At twice the cost, how does Prime compare? .[/QUOTE]Your comparison is wrong. A more reasonable comparison is to compare Prime to Loutron, and it is better than Loutron. Loutron may have hotter girls but the service is very limited.
[QUOTE=DonMedellin;2710061]I am sure both cities have 10's that are like Victoria Secret models. But what about average clinica girls? In Medellin for example, the cost of 1 HR full service is +/- 25 USD (100 k COP). Based on my readings of the Brazil threads, it seems that the average coast is around 300 Brazil Reals, or 60 USD. Since the money is twice the amount, does service and quality two times better?
Edit: to be more specific, New Life in Medellin is 25 usd (95k cop) for one hour, and Prime in Sao Paulo is 50 usd (250 reals) for the same amount of time. In my opinion, New Life's quality is a hit or miss, but quantity has always been good. Even if I don't pick a girl, I think it is toatlly worth it to pay 1 dollar to see their line up. At twice the cost, how does Prime compare?
I've been eyeing on Brazil and finally booked a ticket to visit fior the first time since my visa free stay is coming to an end.[/QUOTE]A 25 difference? The price comparison seems insignificant. Can get at the clinicas GFE / pse for 50 usd. Never a charge to see the lineups. I never been to Medellin but seems like average service only is the standard there from my experience with Columbian girls.
If you like the mix of native south american (indigenous) with Afro, then Colombia is just great.
Brazil has all the rest of ethnicities of the entire world. So Brazil is better from my point of view and personal likes.
Downtown Medellin some 10 years ago, there were bars since 3 pm where you could have a beer and wild fuck for US $25.
[QUOTE=DonMedellin;2710061]I am sure both cities have 10's that are like Victoria Secret models. But what about average clinica girls? In Medellin for example, the cost of 1 HR full service is +/- 25 USD (100 k COP). Based on my readings of the Brazil threads, it seems that the average coast is around 300 Brazil Reals, or 60 USD. Since the money is twice the amount, does service and quality two times better?
Edit: to be more specific, New Life in Medellin is 25 usd (95k cop) for one hour, and Prime in Sao Paulo is 50 usd (250 reals) for the same amount of time. In my opinion, New Life's quality is a hit or miss, but quantity has always been good. Even if I don't pick a girl, I think it is toatlly worth it to pay 1 dollar to see their line up. At twice the cost, how does Prime compare?
I've been eyeing on Brazil and finally booked a ticket to visit fior the first time since my visa free stay is coming to an end.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XXL;2710018] .. The asking price for half an hour is 300. Opting for half an hour instead of one hour also halves the room price (50 instead of 100). I can now safely say that if you don't agree oral without condom beforehand at Casarao 90% of chances are you'll get covered blow-job. If good accommodation had not become so expensive in SP I'd say you'd be a fool to go for a mongering holiday anywhere else but in SP right now.[/QUOTE]I was there (Casarao) on Thursday night. Each girl I talked to opened with a price of 250 for a half hour and 350 for the hour.
I went with 2 girls that night, separately.
Each girl I ended up paying 300 for the hour, BBBJ included, plus the room cost.
Definitely negotiate a little. They both said yes to 300 for an hour in an instant. I’m thinking I could even ask for lower, but 300 seems fair for everyone.
Also, one of the girls I went with was telling me about her Euro namorado (boyfriend) that sends her money weekly.
She showed me their text messages professing love and saudades.
His contact name was Gringo, lol.
I asked her what she calls him in person, and she said, amor.
They have a nice Google translate love affair going.
Great time with each of the girls I sessioned with at Casarao.
Not looking for a girlfriend there though, lol.
I remember back 2002, my first trip to Brazil, crossing from Rio Branco (West) to Rio de Janeiro (East). It was election days and first time the leftist party with Lula as leader was about to win elections. In matter of days the Real lost 25% of the value compared to US $. It was great news for a traveler like me of course.
This year 2022 is also elections year and Lula is still the favorite to win. What I've heard during the last months: Brazil is now receiving lots of investment from many countries and that's the reason for the Real to keep from strong devaluation. So keep an eye on Octover 2022, the elections will take place 2th of octover. Not it's around are $5. 1 = 1 US $.
During the Lula years, the Real had the highest value ever. Are $1. 8 = 1 US $. So Brasil was super expensive!!
[QUOTE=NiceFirst;2708844]I read on this forum and is it really R50? Or R50 plus some amount for mandatory consumables?[/QUOTE]Some nights irlt was cheaoer like 30 or even 20 but communicating through staff was never easy. My TIM phone never had signal inside. 50 included at least one drink.
I hate sloppy seconds so as usual I popped my Sildenafil shortly after 11 am and soon was on my way to Alameda dos Guaramomis. I learned from the Uber driver that the funny street names in Moema (Guaramonis, Maracatins, Nhambiquaras etc.) were names of Indian tribes. Armed with this fresh knowledge, I entered Abbobora where things didn't look too bright as 3 other clients were already seated for the line-up, which they call "presentation" here. Indeed after the presentation (6 girls) I made to leave empty-handed when the front desk woman, who knows me as a frequent client, asked me "aren't you going to take any girl today?" For civility's sake I enquired whether Bebel could be got hold of. To my surprise she could, having just arrived and being still busy doing herself up.
Bebel was the girl who on a previous session had objected to my licking her pussy, on account of my stubble. This time, no stubble, no problem. She has the kind of physique I like. Tallish, small tits, roughly pear-shaped body, good booty. A further turn-on for me was her ass-cheeks: they stood well apart from each another. It turns me off when a woman's ass cheeks are pinched so that you have to prize them apart to see what's there.
In the taxi back to the hotel I pondered how easy it was in SP to have sex with sexy women (women who would hold their own in PornHub), and how lucky one was to be able to do so in the comfort of a first-world country (good internet, easy transportation, good food, temperate climate, lack of police hassle).
[QUOTE=XXL;2710018]I can now safely say that if you don't agree oral without condom beforehand at Casarao 90% of chances are you'll get covered blow-job.[/QUOTE]I was beginning to think it was just me being out of luck, with everybody here saying they get BBBJ by default and had never had to discuss cover.
Damn, I so need to go back to Casarao.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2711012]During the Lula years, the Real had the highest value ever. Are $1. 8 = 1 US $. So Brasil was super expensive!![/QUOTE]I guess this was the golden years for the Brazilian and now it's golden years for us mongers!
[QUOTE=Balboa;2710471]
His contact name was Gringo, lol.
[/QUOTE]That's funny because when I went to Casarao and told my name, the receptionist didn't know how to spell it and put Gringo on the ticket. LOL.
[QUOTE=DonMedellin;2710061]I am sure both cities have 10's that are like Victoria Secret models. But what about average clinica girls? In Medellin for example, the cost of 1 HR full service is +/- 25 USD (100 k COP). Based on my readings of the Brazil threads, it seems that the average coast is around 300 Brazil Reals, or 60 USD. Since the money is twice the amount, does service and quality two times better?
Edit: to be more specific, New Life in Medellin is 25 usd (95k cop) for one hour, and Prime in Sao Paulo is 50 usd (250 reals) for the same amount of time. In my opinion, New Life's quality is a hit or miss, but quantity has always been good. Even if I don't pick a girl, I think it is toatlly worth it to pay 1 dollar to see their line up. At twice the cost, how does Prime compare?
I've been eyeing on Brazil and finally booked a ticket to visit fior the first time since my visa free stay is coming to an end.[/QUOTE]Okay, New Life MDE can't compare to Prime SP or any clinica in MDE vs SP. 1st) Girl quality, Prime is better but somewhat subjective to your taste. 2nd) Service, Prime is way better (No upcharge like BBBJ and such, it's pretty much the standard) and GFE. Facility? Prime is better, not some rundown motel looking joint in centro.
The downside with Prime? It's is always busy so the popular girls usually taken, but you can always walk 5-10 min to the next clinica, can you do that with New Life? No, you got to walk back to ground zero centro or take a cab to Laureles.
What about value? Not talking just New Life but overall clinicas MDE vs SP. Average in MDE is roughly 130 mil but majority won't do BBBJ / anal / rim, those are upcharge atleast 30-50 mil. SP is around 250 r but about 180 r if you post online gpguia with majority inc BBBJ and some might inc anal / rim and not to mention the girls in Brazil are more open to these than Col girls.
My humble opinion? Brazil is better than Colombia in term of service, value, and quality.
[QUOTE=FlowState985;2712881]My humble opinion? Brazil is better than Colombia in term of service, value, and quality.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%.
Guys living in Colombia may do better than the average tourist but for visitors Brazil is the best.
[QUOTE=FlowState985;2712881]
The downside with Prime? It's is always busy so the popular girls usually taken, but you can always walk 5-10 min to the next clinica, can you do that with New Life? No, you got to walk back to ground zero centro or take a cab to Laureles.
[/QUOTE]Though I do agree with you on Brazil being preferable IMO as well, there are actually numerous other girly places right around New Life in Medellin.
More than around the Prime area in SP actually.
[QUOTE=FlowState985;2712872]I guess this was the golden years for the Brazilian and now it's golden years for us mongers![/QUOTE]Yes, I remember all sorts of Brazilians traveling around the world during the Lula years. The guy is favorite to be president again 2022, so keeping an eye on Real value is something I will do for my planning.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2713092]Yes, I remember all sorts of Brazilians traveling around the world during the Lula years. The guy is favorite to be president again 2022, so keeping an eye on Real value is something I will do for my planning.[/QUOTE]I would be cautious in correlating the 2000's' high value in the Real with Lula's policies. Lula's term incidentally corresponded with a long boom in commodity prices and a large amount of Chinese investment in Brazil.
[QUOTE=FlowState985;2712881]......My humble opinion? Brazil is better than Colombia in term of service, value, and quality.[/QUOTE]Brazil is better in terms of service and quality. In terms of price Colombia is better.
Arrived shortly before 1 pm for my last mongering in SP this year. Back in 2020 I'd had my best time at Scandallo around this time of day. There had usually been between 15 and 20 girls. Today only 4 girls. All the same I decided to session as I felt the sildenafil had already reached the stuffy nose stage in my system. After asking 1 k the girl agreed to 800. The session was ok.
800 + 250 entry + 230 for the room = 1280 reais = 230 euro at today's rate. The girl was no better, indeed even worse than what I'd have got from the line-up of one of the major clinicas. I only visited Scandallo today because I'll be flying out of Brazil soon. I didn't want to leave without having ticked the Scandallo box one more time. If I come back to SP next year Scandallo will not be at the top of my to-do list, to say the least.
Frustratingly the exchange rate has been getting markedly better now that I'm about to leave.
XXL, the difference between Scandallo in the afternoon and Scandallo at 11 pm is palpable. It is almost like they are two different clubs. That is why I don't go there anymore before 9 pm at the earliest. In fact, between 1 pm and 3 pm I think you are better of going to a Moema clinica and between 4 pm and 8 pm having a late lunch / early dinner or just relaxing before the main event.
In addition not all Scandallo nights are equal. Thursday & Friday are without a doubt the best nights with the most hot sexy girls and yes the most guys. These are 2 the nights when the most tier one girls ie model quality girls show up. And Wednesday nights are pretty good too. Interestingly, Saturday nights are kind of slow and not as good. I asked a few girls I knew why and they said Saturday was date night or family night in SP and many men were otherwise occupied. LOL. So Saturday night kind of resembles Monday night ie not many girls especially the tier one girls, roped off bar areas, and not many customers. Still, I have had fun on the off nights too because the girls that do show up on these nights definitely want a customer and seem very amenable. I just saying, though, that Wednesday, Thursday, & Friday nights are the specific nights when Scandallo rocks and the stars come out in large numbers.
Yes, correct. Scandallo during the afternoon is very relaxed, only few girls and spaces of the club are open. I remember arriving there around 6 pm after a convention journey in SP. There was only one bar and few girls, maybe 10 or 12 and 3 to 4 guys, but the level was OK.
I started talking to a lovely classy brunette and we ended up talking about my ex girlfriends. Then we fixed a number, she asked are $1000 and I finally accepted are $800. I ate that pussy with great joy. We planned to make a festinha (threesome) with one of her friends in my hotel, but that's another story.
When finished we went to the bar again and there was this stunning tall japa (Brazilian Japanese girl) in tight long cocktail red dress. My god! Unfortunately I had to leave.
About the good days and bad days to go hunt in Brazil, I find this link very useful:
[URL]https://lfsluts.com/best-days-to-pick-incredible-escorts/[/URL]
Girls have regular lives during weekends (friends, families, boyfriends) that's the main reason Wednesday to Friday are the best days.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2713577]XXL, the difference between Scandallo in the afternoon and Scandallo at 11 pm is palpable. It is almost like they are two different clubs. That is why I don't go there anymore before 9 pm at the earliest. In fact, between 1 pm and 3 pm I think you are better of going to a Moema clinica and between 4 pm and 8 pm having a late lunch / early dinner or just relaxing before the main event.
In addition not all Scandallo nights are equal. Thursday & Friday are without a doubt the best nights with the most hot sexy girls and yes the most guys. These are 2 the nights when the most tier one girls ie model quality girls show up. And Wednesday nights are pretty good too. Interestingly, Saturday nights are kind of slow and not as good. I asked a few girls I knew why and they said Saturday was date night or family night in SP and many men were otherwise occupied. LOL. So Saturday night kind of resembles Monday night ie not many girls especially the tier one girls, roped off bar areas, and not many customers. Still, I have had fun on the off nights too because the girls that do show up on these nights definitely want a customer and seem very amenable. I just saying, though, that Wednesday, Thursday, & Friday nights are the specific nights when Scandallo rocks and the stars come out in large numbers.[/QUOTE]
Long time lurker, first time poster.
I've been following the Brazil threads for a bit, and finally decided to book a flight. While I haven't been here long, good god do I not want to leave. As someone who has mostly stuck to Canada and Mexico, Brazil has blown me away. Here you get the kind of service I was accustomed to in Canada, at prices lower than Mexico.
Based on what I read here, my first stop was Tangara and it didn't disappoint. When I arrived there were only two girls unoccupied, and neither were my type. I took a look at the phone photos and saw two I was interested in, only to be told they were both spoken for. They both came into the waiting area briefly and said Hello, both looked like their photos, and actually one I would say was better in person. I was going to wait for one of them to free up, but not ten minutes later a woman with a pretty face, slim waist, and spectacular natural boobs walked in. I scooped her up immediately and got my trip off to a great start.
Next up was Moema Prime. The lineup didn't wow me especially after Tangara, and another customer snapped up the one girl I was moderately interested in. I decided to leave, but right as I walked out the door another girl walked in who was very much my type. I didn't waste any time and we were off. Prime was the better experience by a good margin, but they were both great and I say that as someone who is very picky. Prime was a bit more expensive than Tangara, but given how affordable they both are the difference really doesn't mean much.
To anyone considering a visit I'd offer two pieces of info. First, not speaking Portuguese is a real hurdle in Sao Paulo, but definitely not an insurmountable one. The number of people I was able to have a functional English conversation with (at least so far) was close to zero, so the translator apps are your friend here. Luckily people have been very understanding, and when it comes to the Clinicas you really don't need much conversation to get by. Second, while they can be found on Google Maps, in person they have not been readily apparent. The street view photos were not helpful, but the satellite ones helped me find both buildings. Thanks to everyone for the great information that helped me get this far, and I'll absolutely make a follow up post at or near the end of my trip.
Where in SP are good Asian / Japanese garotas do programa?
I follow a lot of Brazilian escorts and pornstars try these:
[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/eulinanakamura/status/1509318706505072653[/URL]
[URL]https://www.espacomassagistas.com.br/massagista-liberdade-ayumi/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/bela-vista/chamada-de-video-ou-packs-de-video-porno-id-runxm[/URL]
[URL]https://sites.google.com/view/sophiasazaki/in%C3%ADcio[/URL]
[URL]https://www.massagemrelaxsp.com.br/site/paginaAnuncio.asp?filtroEstado=SP&filtroRegiao=1&codGuia=58&codAnuncio=642&conteudo=dados[/URL]#BLOQUEIO.
[URL]https://linkgp.com.br/perfil/acompanhantes-em-bela-vista-sp/hana-yokawa/[/URL]
[URL]https://garotacomlocal.com/acompanhante/lavinia-miyazaki/[/URL]
Please note, I've never been to Brazil but I do like to fuck escorts in Mexico, but seems like Brazil has a superb system. Their escort systems seems similar to Mexico, but I use Twitter and another source to read reviews.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2716333]Where in SP are good Asian / Japanese garotas do programa?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LovesToSploog;2716437]I follow a lot of Brazilian escorts and pornstars try these:
Please note, I've never been to Brazil but I do like to fuck escorts in Mexico, but seems like Brazil has a superb system. Their escort systems seems similar to Mexico, but I use Twitter and another source to read reviews.[/QUOTE]Tbh, comparing escorts in Brazil with Mexico, is like comparing a BMW with a Fiat.
Also, in Mexico most ads of escorts are fake. I experienced this by myself. From 4 tryouts, only 1 was what it should be. And what I expected. Except of this, most Mexican chicks aren't worth the money. (I only mention the big bellies that a lot of them have).
This is. Of course. Only my humble opinion.
Brazil is it. And also Thailand, but definitely not Mexico.
(I was in Brazil, Mexico and Thailand and more.)
Don't blame the fake escorts on Mexico, blame them on yourself. If you have a crappy experience then that must mean you suck at research or just gullible, or a sucker (just my humble opinion). I've been to Mexico plenty of times and unlike you, I've had amazing times from Tijuana, Monterrey, Guadalajara, Puebla, Aguascalientes and different places because I come prepared.
Anyways I did my research on Brazil like I do my research in Mexico so I know there is a trove of women everywhere, I'm here to help whenever I can, not spread misinformation
How’s about you make yourself useful and answer the poster’s request? I’d be wary though since you already demonstrated you fall for fake ads.
[QUOTE=Nitro2000;2716646]Tbh, comparing escorts in Brazil with Mexico, is like comparing a BMW with a Fiat.
Also, in Mexico most ads of escorts are fake. I experienced this by myself. From 4 tryouts, only 1 was what it should be. And what I expected. Except of this, most Mexican chicks aren't worth the money. (I only mention the big bellies that a lot of them have).
This is. Of course. Only my humble opinion.
Brazil is it. And also Thailand, but definitely not Mexico.
(I was in Brazil, Mexico and Thailand and more.)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2713577]XXL, the difference between Scandallo in the afternoon and Scandallo at 11 pm is palpable. It is almost like they are two different clubs. That is why I don't go there anymore before 9 pm at the earliest. In fact, between 1 pm and 3 pm I think you are better of going to a Moema clinica and between 4 pm and 8 pm having a late lunch / early dinner or just relaxing before the main event.
In addition not all Scandallo nights are equal. Thursday & Friday are without a doubt the best nights with the most hot sexy girls and yes the most guys. These are 2 the nights when the most tier one girls ie model quality girls show up. And Wednesday nights are pretty good too. Interestingly, Saturday nights are kind of slow and not as good. I asked a few girls I knew why and they said Saturday was date night or family night in SP and many men were otherwise occupied. LOL. So Saturday night kind of resembles Monday night ie not many girls especially the tier one girls, roped off bar areas, and not many customers. Still, I have had fun on the off nights too because the girls that do show up on these nights definitely want a customer and seem very amenable. I just saying, though, that Wednesday, Thursday, & Friday nights are the specific nights when Scandallo rocks and the stars come out in large numbers.[/QUOTE]Go there at 6 pm when the majority of the girls arrive because they get to leave at 2 am instead of 5 am. Also many clients arrive at that time because at 7 pm the entrance fee doubles. I was there last week and had another memorable time, saw a Kate Moss model look alike and took 3 other girls out each 1500 R and others upstairs for 1000 R for 2 hours, don't pay gringo price that is the whole point.
Weekend girls have usually do not have BF's so either they don't want one or there's something wrong with them LOL.
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2717466]Go there at 6 pm when the majority of the girls arrive because they get to leave at 2 am instead of 5 am. Also many clients arrive at that time because at 7 pm the entrance fee doubles. I was there last week and had another memorable time, saw a Kate Moss model look alike and took 3 other girls out each 1500 R and others upstairs for 1000 R for 2 hours, don't pay gringo price that is the whole point.
Weekend girls have usually do not have BF's so either they don't want one or there's something wrong with them LOL.[/QUOTE]I think this is an example of different strokes for different folks or another way of looking at it is some guys prefer being a big fish in a small pond and some guys prefer swimming in the big blue ocean.
The first few times I went to Scandallo I arrived before 7 pm. The large entertainment bar and the courtyard bar were roped off due to the relatively small number of girls & customers. I still found a few girls to my liking, but overall, the quality, not to mention the quantity, was nowhere as good as it is later on at night, so I began arriving later and later until I finally began arriving between 2100 to 2130 which I found to be optimal. But if you like the early show that is fine by me.
[QUOTE=Hobbying;2717466]Go there at 6 pm when the majority of the girls arrive because they get to leave at 2 am instead of 5 am. Also many clients arrive at that time because at 7 pm the entrance fee doubles. I was there last week and had another memorable time, saw a Kate Moss model look alike and took 3 other girls out each 1500 R and others upstairs for 1000 R for 2 hours, don't pay gringo price that is the whole point. Weekend girls have usually do not have BF's so either they don't want one or there's something wrong with them LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Axel Heyst;2717796]I think this is an example of different strokes for different folks or another way of looking at it is some guys prefer being a big fish in a small pond and some guys prefer swimming in the big blue ocean.
The first few times I went to Scandallo I arrived before 7 pm. The large entertainment bar and the courtyard bar were roped off due to the relatively small number of girls & customers. I still found a few girls to my liking, but overall, the quality, not to mention the quantity, was nowhere as good as it is later on at night, so I began arriving later and later until I finally began arriving between 2100 to 2130 which I found to be optimal. But if you like the early show that is fine by me.[/QUOTE]
I may have asked this question a while ago but forgot the answer (s) given.
Can you arrive prior to 7 PM (and pay lower entrance fee) stay a bit and leave and come back later after 10 PM will they let you in without paying an additional fee? Or will they charge the difference or full late night fee?
I would hope that the lower prior 7 PM fee could be good for all night with in and out priviliges.
Just asking.