FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=Jymondor;2034428]I was her regular for all time she worked at Sharks. End of 2016 she asked if I want to have another room with her. I said not now but next time for sure. She answered that it is not likely that next time will ever happen. I asked why, but she gave no answer. That was my last time I've seen her at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Most probably she moved to another club, or for escort in Dublin or Dubai.

[QUOTE=Jersey135;2034427]I will be in Frankfurt over a Monday-Tuesday-Wednesday in June. Which day and time would be the best to visit Sharks?

I'm most interested in Which day / time will have the best quality girls and the least crowds. Also prefer FKK to lingerie / dresses.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Monday is less crowded, but not so many girls. But you only need one.

Tuesday is lingerie day.

Wednesday is very crowded, but also with many girls.

So I should choose Wednesday.

[QUOTE=TtomBeerSoop;2034628]Hi,

I am a regular reader of this forum and has my first ever FKK visit a few months back. However it was not a very pleasant experience. May be because my selection was not really good. I tried find hotties like Mia, Sandra as per the discussions here, but could not locate them. Is there a way to know who are these super stars without asking everyone there name? I am planning my next visit in next Wednesday.[/QUOTE]Almost one year ago, someone posted a layout map with girls name on it. But it may be outdated now. If I were you, I would either ask some girls there or ask some guys who seems like regular. It may help in your case.

[QUOTE=TtomBeerSoop;2034628]Hi,

I am a regular reader of this forum and has my first ever FKK visit a few months back. However it was not a very pleasant experience. May be because my selection was not really good. I tried find hotties like Mia, Sandra as per the discussions here, but could not locate them. Is there a way to know who are these super stars without asking everyone there name? I am planning my next visit in next Wednesday.[/QUOTE]From my experience I would say: forget all the info and trust your instinct. Don't worry about names and reputation, just see who you like and who seems trustworthy to you. There will be mistakes, but the budget for one evening should always include 100 euros for less successful sessions. It is inevitable as this is between human beings. The rest will be great.

[QUOTE=TtomBeerSoop;2034628]Hi,

I am a regular reader of this forum and has my first ever FKK visit a few months back. However it was not a very pleasant experience. May be because my selection was not really good. I tried find hotties like Mia, Sandra as per the discussions here, but could not locate them. Is there a way to know who are these super stars without asking everyone there name? I am planning my next visit in next Wednesday.[/QUOTE]Regrettably girls do not wear name badges. The only way is to try identifying girls by the description and favorite sitting spot and talking to them.

I would not recommend to ask another girls for the name of the girl you are looking for. Usually they answer that they know each other at the real names and don't know each others working names, which is not true of course. In contrary asking the men is a good idea. I have a few English speaking German buddies there who can point me to the girl I am looking for.

In my dream FKK girls wear name badges. Also badges must have some identification strips. For example blue - DFK, pink - DIGITS, brown - anal, etc.

[QUOTE=TtomBeerSoop;2034628]Hi,

I am a regular reader of this forum and has my first ever FKK visit a few months back. However it was not a very pleasant experience. May be because my selection was not really good. I tried find hotties like Mia, Sandra as per the discussions here, but could not locate them. Is there a way to know who are these super stars without asking everyone there name? I am planning my next visit in next Wednesday.[/QUOTE]Just go to girls who attract you. Speak with them before going to room. A girl can be good for one and not for the other. Mia is not pretty enough for me.

Just subjective tastes.

[QUOTE=TtomBeerSoop;2034628]Is there a way to know who are these super stars without asking everyone there name? I am planning my next visit in next Wednesday.[/QUOTE]Start talking to other guys in the club. In general, guys are more than happy to share their experiences in person and let you know who is good and who is bad.

[QUOTE=Jymondor;2034820]I would not recommend to ask another girls for the name of the girl you are looking for. Usually they answer that they know each other at the real names and don't know each others working names, which is not true of course.[/QUOTE]I rarely ask one girl about another girl I am looking for. But, when I have done that, one thing I have found is that sometimes the girls will flat out lie! They will say whoever I'm looking for is not there in an attempt to get you to go with them instead! I typically decline, and then later I look up and lo and behold there's the one I wanted! Never put anything past some of these tutes! That's why I don't play or accept any games. Before I go to the room, I state what I want and at what price. You can do that in a friendly and relaxed, non-threatening way, which is what I do. But, I do it!

[QUOTE=TtomBeerSoop;2034628]
I am a regular reader of this forum and has my first ever FKK visit a few months back. However it was not a very pleasant experience. May be because my selection was not really good. I tried find hotties like Mia, Sandra as per the discussions here, but could not locate them. Is there a way to know who are these super stars without asking everyone there name? I am planning my next visit in next Wednesday.[/QUOTE]Don't focus too much on so called superstars maybe they aren't your spec. Tastes and sexual preferences are too different. Develop your own way. I was never with Sandra in room, I know about her top class room performance but she isn't my spec. At beginning of my FKK time I also looked for girls recommended at boards but result was usually in best case average. After one / two years I gave a shit on these reports and found my own girls with much better result. And all my last 10 top girls I found before there was anything written on internet about her. So even at a so internet hyped club like Sharks quite sure you always can find a unknown girl fit much better to you than some so called superstar. And one last thing if you uncertain with the right girl than why chose Sharks as your first club. At beginning of my FKK time I was quite often at the smaller clubs like Atlanta or Bahama. No one needs 100 girls, I guess for most guys are 3 or 4 girls per day enough, myself I now usually need only one, and this you can get also at smaller clubs like Atlanta or Rom and there it's maybe easier for beginners. So forget about superstars and hype clubs.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2034956]Don't focus too much on so called superstars maybe they aren't your spec. Tastes and sexual preferences are too different. Develop your own way. I was never with Sandra in room, I know about her top class room performance but she isn't my spec. At beginning of my FKK time I also looked for girls recommended at boards but result was usually in best case average. After one / two years I gave a shit on these reports and found my own girls with much better result. And all my last 10 top girls I found before there was anything written on internet about her. So even at a so internet hyped club like Sharks quite sure you always can find a unknown girl fit much better to you than some so called superstar. And one last thing if you uncertain with the right girl than why chose Sharks as your first club. At beginning of my FKK time I was quite often at the smaller clubs like Atlanta or Bahama. No one needs 100 girls, I guess for most guys are 3 or 4 girls per day enough, myself I now usually need only one, and this you can get also at smaller clubs like Atlanta or Rom and there it's maybe easier for beginners. So forget about superstars and hype clubs.[/QUOTE]Outstanding advice! It's fun to read about all the different girls and what the experiences of others were like with them. But at the end of the day, you have to find your own girls. The ones who do it for you! I find the real value in a site like this is in gathering detailed intel on the different clubs, the best way to get to them, pricing, facilities, food quality, overall size of the line-ups and so on. Even interesting cultural aspects of the country you will be visiting. And just being able to share and the camaraderie. Most of us are not in a position in our lives where we can talk openly about our "hobby". So, having a forum like this to communicate with like-minded people is great! But gents, you have to go and select your own dream girls! What I like, you don't like. And vice versa. Only you know what kind of girl is going to turn you on and make your dick hard!

[QUOTE=TtomBeerSoop;2034628]Is there a way to know who are these super stars without asking everyone there name?[/QUOTE]Hint: The "best"/ most popular girls are always "hiding" in a room. Remember this when you enter a club for the first time (ANY club worldwide). What you find in a club as you enter is probably a majority of leftovers, bad performers and scammers (very roughly speaking of course). If it is a busy night Sharks has 20- 30 rooms rocking with 20- 30 of their finest doing their duty. If you can't find anything interesting having scrolled the club, then retreat to the money lockers and await as the girls return from the rooms with their victims. Also observe the couple's response when handing over the money (cheerful, happy, cold, moody, arguing, even angry?). It can be an indication of her performance in the room as well.

Yes, asking a gent (and not a girl) about a girl is a good idea. And nothing beats trusting your own instincts. Gents have different tastes. Some girls are just too hyped, and quite often your best findings concern girls never mentioned on ISG.

My suggestion is to sit on the couches near the entry, many guys just sit there to relax and they talk to everyone almost everything. Many senior experienced ISG and non ISG members.

Another way is to sit there and see guys paying off the girls. Notice their reaction and go on and talk to them about their experience in the room. I generally repeat only outstanding performers and great service providers. But nothing beats the art of finding new chicks who are tomorrow's superstars. I generally go and talk to them for a few minutes and ask what they do in the room, if things look promising go to the extent of ordering a vodka (Euro 8-10) for them. Trust you me it does work. My 2 cents.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=TtomBeerSoop;2034628]Hi,

I am a regular reader of this forum and has my first ever FKK visit a few months back. However it was not a very pleasant experience. May be because my selection was not really good. I tried find hotties like Mia, Sandra as per the discussions here, but could not locate them. Is there a way to know who are these super stars without asking everyone there name? I am planning my next visit in next Wednesday.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shark16;2034973]Hint: The "best"/ most popular girls are always "hiding" in a room. Remember this when you enter a club for the first time (ANY club worldwide). What you find in a club as you enter is probably a majority of leftovers, bad performers and scammers (very roughly speaking of course). [/QUOTE]Very roughly. There's times when you find the "superstars" not busy, sitting at the bar, having a break or simply not well booked that day. If you think the non busy girls are "leftovers, scammers and bad performers", you might miss a superstar.

HB.

Yes I know I know. RTFF but is there any outdoor area connected to Sharks? Nice weather today, if there isn't, I'd rather choose Oase. Thanks!

[QUOTE=ZimmerBaby;2034994]Yes I know I know. RTFF but is there any outdoor area connected to Sharks? Nice weather today, if there isn't, I'd rather choose Oase. Thanks![/QUOTE]Yep Sharks has a large and nice outdoor area.

Pictures you can see on homepage.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2034995]Yep Sharks has a large and nice outdoor area.

Pictures you can see on homepage.[/QUOTE]Great! God bless you and your family. Thanks!

[QUOTE=ZimmerBaby;2034997]Great! God bless you and your family. Thanks![/QUOTE]Sorry but why are you referring to God when you plan to visit a brothel?

I've read some good report about Elif and Amalia (sister).

How is possible to recognize them?

Where do they sit usually?

Any particular sign? Tattoo, piercing and so on.

Thanks and regards.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2034954]I rarely ask one girl about another girl I am looking for. But, when I have done that, one thing I have found is that sometimes the girls will flat out lie! They will say whoever I'm looking for is not there in an attempt to get you to go with them instead! I typically decline, and then later I look up and lo and behold there's the one I wanted! Never put anything past some of these tutes! That's why I don't play or accept any games. Before I go to the room, I state what I want and at what price. You can do that in a friendly and relaxed, non-threatening way, which is what I do. But, I do it![/QUOTE]There are very rare exceptions. Black Elli recommended me some good girls. For example she recommended me Enya and I was totally satisfied with that session. Also I can ask Elli for the girls name. If she knows the name I am asking she points me to the girl. Eventually Elli is my new favorite after Eva gone.

[QUOTE=SeaShark;2035074]I've read some good report about Elif and Amalia (sister).

How is possible to recognize them?

Where do they sit usually?

Any particular sign? Tattoo, piercing and so on.

Thanks and regards.[/QUOTE]Very easy because they look like each other, that s how I find them. Blond white skin used to sit close to the pole. Smiling friendly.

[QUOTE=Jymondor;2035245]There are very rare exceptions. Black Elli recommended me some good girls. For example she recommended me Enya and I was totally satisfied with that session. Also I can ask Elli for the girls name. If she knows the name I am asking she points me to the girl. Eventually Elli is my new favorite after Eva gone.[/QUOTE]I am wondering how a girl can recommend another girl knowing that except if they are really good friends the girls will not tell the others what she is doing or not in the room, even the clever girls will not agree outside the room because first she wants to check how clean you are and if you are big or not.

Undoubtedly the best FKK I've been to. Infrastructure, staff, food, girls etc.

Spent several hundred euros on beautiful Dina / Diana from Hungary. So beautiful eyes, face, body, demeanour. DFK, super GFE. It was supposed to be my last FKK visit before the new law, but I'll probably end up in Darmstadt tomorrow. Not only for Sharks, but also for the discount given by the bakery at the Hauptbahnhof. The bread of the month has a reduced price of 3,70 euros, so I will save 29 cents. Cannot let that bargain slip away from me.

Who is the woman with huge ass and breasts? Must be at least 35-40 years old. Natural face with less make up than standard young girls. Long brownish hair. Attracted lots of good looking younger guys. Was something fascinating about her. Very different type of person compared to the other girls. Like a lonely Mustang 69 amongst hundreds of Teslas model X.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2034956]Don't focus too much on so called superstars maybe they aren't your spec. Tastes and sexual preferences are too different. Develop your own way. I was never with Sandra in room, I know about her top class room performance but she isn't my spec. At beginning of my FKK time I also looked for girls recommended at boards but result was usually in best case average. After one / two years I gave a shit on these reports and found my own girls with much better result. And all my last 10 top girls I found before there was anything written on internet about her. So even at a so internet hyped club like Sharks quite sure you always can find a unknown girl fit much better to you than some so called superstar. And one last thing if you uncertain with the right girl than why chose Sharks as your first club. At beginning of my FKK time I was quite often at the smaller clubs like Atlanta or Bahama. No one needs 100 girls, I guess for most guys are 3 or 4 girls per day enough, myself I now usually need only one, and this you can get also at smaller clubs like Atlanta or Rom and there it's maybe easier for beginners. So forget about superstars and hype clubs.[/QUOTE]Yes, each one his eyes, brain, tastes for look and kind of sex.

Not same meaning for me for high class, Sandra is a lovely angel for behavior, with very good level for sex. Same for Mandy. They have sisters behavior, but high class is for me for look and manners, not about services or performances. I would not say Katalina is a high performer, but really high class, when no public sex at Globe. You can take her with you for a business lunch or diner, or show her to your friends. Not sure when she was gypsy look few years ago, but really sophisticated now. Today, when I saw again Madeleine, I thought: what a classy beauty, when she came to me: just classy manners, just what I call high class, as was also Madi World, and my now very regular. The most attractive quality for me. I agree I prefer to go and repeat only with 1 high class girl, rather than seeing 100 GND.

[QUOTE=ZimmerBaby;2035612]Spent several hundred euros on beautiful Dina / Diana from Hungary. So beautiful eyes, face, body, demeanour. DFK, super GFE. It was supposed to be my last FKK visit before the new law, but I'll probably end up in Darmstadt tomorrow. [/QUOTE]Yes Dina is easily worth a few hundred euros, probably one of the few girls that still makes Sharks a worthwhile trip for me. She can be a very sweet loving GF. Probably the only prostitute I role play GF / BF with. Just be careful about staying on her good side, people here have been black listed by her, even I pissed her off a few times but for some reason she still want my business. And like a real GF she is not afraid to show you her mood swings, much much wider than how she swings her nice big ass. If she favors you, you will really experience some top level service and beyond.

Have to say the lineup didn't wow me this Sunday like it did on my last visit, many of my favorites weren't working and the girls I went with all did super annoying upsells. My guess is they know what's coming and are trying to make the most bucks for the bang but it sure made me rethink my club hoping schedule. I've got a shark vip card, I've decided to use the last few entry's and won't bother to get another. I'd guess roughly 70 girls but so so many have been there for so so long. Wanted to see some fresh talent, got little for what I wished for.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2035633] I'd guess roughly 70 girls but so so many have been there for so so long. Wanted to see some fresh talent, got little for what I wished for.[/QUOTE]Fresh? Have you tried Mondial? They have WGs that are so fresh that they cannot speak German or English yet. Not even sure if they know how to apply makeup correctly yet.

Hit or miss LU. Not known for great average service level or great average looks for that matter, but its 30 EUR entry, so if I find one that is hot, I am happy, even though the other 50 are repulsive. You might want to attend at 5 pm and leave early before the music gets ear-piercing loud.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2034956]Don't focus too much on so called superstars maybe they aren't your spec. Tastes and sexual preferences are too different. Develop your own way. I was never with Sandra in room, I know about her top class room performance but she isn't my spec. At beginning of my FKK time I also looked for girls recommended at boards but result was usually in best case average. After one / two years I gave a shit on these reports and found my own girls with much better result. And all my last 10 top girls I found before there was anything written on internet about her. So even at a so internet hyped club like Sharks quite sure you always can find a unknown girl fit much better to you than some so called superstar. And one last thing if you uncertain with the right girl than why chose Sharks as your first club. At beginning of my FKK time I was quite often at the smaller clubs like Atlanta or Bahama. No one needs 100 girls, I guess for most guys are 3 or 4 girls per day enough, myself I now usually need only one, and this you can get also at smaller clubs like Atlanta or Rom and there it's maybe easier for beginners. So forget about superstars and hype clubs.[/QUOTE]Very good recommendation, girls are not a product which is doing that or that, chemistry between people is essential to get a nice session. What matters for me is to get the global feeling about a club, ratio man to woman, clean, food, but also LU in term of quality and quantity after the rest is my responsibility.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2035618]Yes Dina is easily worth a few hundred euros, probably one of the few girls that still makes Sharks a worthwhile trip for me. She can be a very sweet loving GF. Probably the only prostitute I role play GF / BF with. Just be careful about staying on her good side, people here have been black listed by her, even I pissed her off a few times but for some reason she still want my business. And like a real GF she is not afraid to show you her mood swings, much much wider than how she swings her nice big ass. If she favors you, you will really experience some top level service and beyond.[/QUOTE]I have never met Dina. Where does she sit normally?

Both are easy to spot, on the couches near the pole near the pole. They look alike, blonde, great skin and body, golden short hair. You decide and tell me who you like more.

I feel the elder one has an ass to die for, the younger one is a better performer.

[QUOTE=SeaShark;2035074]I've read some good report about Elif and Amalia (sister).

How is possible to recognize them?

Where do they sit usually?

Any particular sign? Tattoo, piercing and so on.

Thanks and regards.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2035618]Yes Dina is easily worth a few hundred euros, probably one of the few girls that still makes Sharks a worthwhile trip for me. She can be a very sweet loving GF. Probably the only prostitute I role play GF / BF with. Just be careful about staying on her good side, people here have been black listed by her, even I pissed her off a few times but for some reason she still want my business. And like a real GF she is not afraid to show you her mood swings, much much wider than how she swings her nice big ass. If she favors you, you will really experience some top level service and beyond.[/QUOTE]Thanks, very useful information! If euro can balance her to stay on the bright side, that is not close to be a problem. I'm willing to clean her toilet with my own birth certificate just to receive the service from yesterday. More than sex, it was a dream, utopia. This business is about creating the perfect illusion and she did! How did you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off BTW?

FKK sharks was my favorite club for the last 2 years but somethings change, for start the lineup is only OK, few stunners and a lot of 8. Been in Oase at Saturday it Oase have a better lineup and lots of 9 and few 10 , even you get a free pizza.

But the main differ is that all the girls in Sharks expert one gave me a great experience in the room and out of the room while in Oase 4/5 girls in the room started ask for extra all the time and gave me a shity time.

Sharks is less attractive but it still the best experience even you don't get pizza and less good line up.

Beware of a girl named Raluka at Sharks, smiles and in the room she 5 minutes argue about extra money for her and gives a shit experience.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2035633]Have to say the lineup didn't wow me this Sunday like it did on my last visit, many of my favorites weren't working and the girls I went with all did super annoying upsells. My guess is they know what's coming and are trying to make the most bucks for the bang but it sure made me rethink my club hoping schedule. I've got a shark vip card, I've decided to use the last few entry's and won't bother to get another. I'd guess roughly 70 girls but so so many have been there for so so long. Wanted to see some fresh talent, got little for what I wished for.[/QUOTE]I was there all the time. But since you refused to reply to my PM, I never got in position to cheer you up with my angry eyes and stone cold face. Some times a man has to grab the love when it's available, even if it is from a fat man with his mouth full of chicken, steak, fish, fruit and cakes.

[QUOTE=ZimmerBaby;2035612]
Who is the woman with huge ass and breasts? Must be at least 35-40 years old. Natural face with less make up than standard young girls. Long brownish hair. Attracted lots of good looking younger guys. Was something fascinating about her. Very different type of person compared to the other girls. Like a lonely Mustang 69 amongst hundreds of Teslas model X.[/QUOTE]I think I know who you mean, but definitely not my type. Does she wear these stockings and usually sits at the beginning of the bar, close to the entrance to the dining area?

[QUOTE=ZimmerBaby;2035744]Thanks, very useful information! If euro can balance her to stay on the bright side, that is not close to be a problem. I'm willing to clean her toilet with my own birth certificate just to receive the service from yesterday. More than sex, it was a dream, utopia. This business is about creating the perfect illusion and she did! How did you p!$s her off BTW?[/QUOTE]It's easy to p!$s her off: just go to a room with another girl. I've stopped booking her, because just like with a real GF, it was quickly getting too much with bitchy GF stuff for me. I love the variety, and getting nasty looks when I go with another girl, or smart ass remarks (like "hey, I saw you going with this other girl, you like her better than me? From Dina is just not my thing. She's a smart and good looking woman, so if she wants quit the business and start a relationship with one of her customers then she should do that, but stop playing those stupid games.

As AznHotBoy said:

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2035618]She can be a very sweet loving GF. Probably the only prostitute I role play GF / BF with. Just be careful about staying on her good side, people here have been black listed by her, even I pissed her off a few times but for some reason she still want my business. And like a real GF she is not afraid to show you her mood swings, much much wider than how she swings her nice big ass. If she favors you, you will really experience some top level service and beyond.[/QUOTE]P.S. For some weird reason you're not allowed to say p. I. s. S. On this forum, so you have to be a bit creative, like typing p!$s.

[QUOTE=ZimmerBaby;2035744]Thanks, very useful information! If euro can balance her to stay on the bright side, that is not close to be a problem. I'm willing to clean her toilet with my own birth certificate just to receive the service from yesterday. More than sex, it was a dream, utopia. This business is about creating the perfect illusion and she did! How did you p her off BTW?[/QUOTE]I think most people already posted what they did, basically don't take other girls when she see you. Treat her like a spoiled princess in room. She will be very sweet and be very open about her life. Unlike the other prostitutes at Sharks, she can afford to blacklist customers due to her huge network of established sugar daddies. She also have good connection to the management at Sharks so she pretty much does what she wants. She is no average hooker at Sharks, you are blessed by her presence and act accordingly.

She likes to play games, just play along and don't take it too serious and you'll be fine. People here get too upset because they fell for her games. Just have a grip of reality and you will have yourself a good time. All my friends that tried her also said she is the best prostitute in town. Good luck and have fun! Also she might be under the delusion that she is not a prostitute from time to time. She is a good actress, so just be careful. But can't beat the service!

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2035618]Yes Dina is easily worth a few hundred euros, probably one of the few girls that still makes Sharks a worthwhile trip for me. She can be a very sweet loving GF. Probably the only prostitute I role play GF / BF with. Just be careful about staying on her good side, people here have been black listed by her, even I pissed her off a few times but for some reason she still want my business. And like a real GF she is not afraid to show you her mood swings, much much wider than how she swings her nice big ass. If she favors you, you will really experience some top level service and beyond.[/QUOTE]Dina is on MY black list since at least three years. Bodywise and face 100% my type but her princess behaviour? No way anymore.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2035865]Dina is on MY black list since at least three years. Bodywise and face 100% my type but her princess behaviour? No way anymore.[/QUOTE]Master Craiova, can't you treat her princess behaviour with more money? LOL.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2035866]Master Craiova, can't you treat her princess behaviour with more money? LOL.[/QUOTE]You can't win against the dark side of the force with money. LOL.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2035867]You can't win against the dark side of the force with money. LOL.[/QUOTE]A sith lord that will suck yr "force" dry, haha.

Horny Harry.

1) yes, that's the lady.

[QUOTE=ZimmerBaby;2035612]
Who is the woman with huge ass and breasts? Must be at least 35-40 years old. Natural face with less make up than standard young girls. Long brownish hair. Attracted lots of good looking younger guys. Was something fascinating about her. Very different type of person compared to the other girls. Like a lonely Mustang 69 amongst hundreds of Teslas model X.[/QUOTE]This is Angelika, from Latvia (or Lithuania), but been in Germany for years. At Sharks for years too. She's walking proof that guys' tastes and definition of sex appeal can vary in extreme ways. Not everybody's spec (I'm in that group), but clearly some guys go for that.

Hi Guys,

Anyone seen Brenda (Ex-Leya) around during the past few days? Big natural titties (double DDs / Es), exotic looking Romanian with long straight raven hair, no tats, hot PSE body type. Gonna be back in Germany soon and wondering if she is back from her Easter break.

Thanks. Howie.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2035890]This is Angelika, from Latvia (or Lithuania), but been in Germany for years. At Sharks for years too. She's walking proof that guys' tastes and definition of sex appeal can vary in extreme ways. Not everybody's spec (I'm in that group), but clearly some guys go for that.[/QUOTE]And an excellent provider as far as I am concerned.

[QUOTE=TrebleMachine;2035930]And an excellent provider as far as I am concerned.[/QUOTE]As I said: Different strokes for different blokes. And nobody should be indifferent to this.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2035865]Dina is on MY black list since at least three years. Bodywise and face 100% my type but her princess behaviour? No way anymore.[/QUOTE]Same here, I simply stopped booking her.

If I have a girlfriend then I'm loyal and faithful to my girlfriend, but when I'm single I want to be able to enjoy myself with lots of different girls without any restrictions and without any bullshit or jealous mindfuck games.

P.S. IMHO her looks are also fading a little bit since about 12 months ago.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2035864]I think most people already posted what they did, basically don't take other girls when she see you. Treat her like a spoiled princess in room. She will be very sweet and be very open about her life. Unlike the other prostitutes at Sharks, she can afford to blacklist customers due to her huge network of established sugar daddies. She also have good connection to the management at Sharks so she pretty much does what she wants. She is no average hooker at Sharks, you are blessed by her presence and act accordingly.

She likes to play games, just play along and don't take it too serious and you'll be fine. People here get too upset because they fell for her games. Just have a grip of reality and you will have yourself a good time. All my friends that tried her also said she is the best prostitute in town. Good luck and have fun! Also she might be under the delusion that she is not a prostitute from time to time. She is a good actress, so just be careful. But can't beat the service![/QUOTE]Dina is pretty when her eyes are not too "tired" . Only 1 hour room with her when I discovered Sharks on beginning of 2014, but nothing impressive at all for me, wanted to get control, a real prostitute behavior, not much sensuality, no real woman behavior for me, only sexual technique, no illusion, no dream, just a beauty I enjoyed to watch walking sexy in the garden with her sunglasses, and swinging her a bit big ass, but not the biggest problem. Only my subjective tastes of course.

When I have a really high level girl who give me much of her intimacy, I don't mind if she ask me not to go with other girls in same club, and usually I even respect to keep her lovely behavior as long as possible, my choice. My World regular even thought, I went to Germany weekly, only for her, not meeting any other girl, until she read me.

[QUOTE=Howie;2035921]
Anyone seen Brenda (Ex-Leya) around during the past few days? Big natural titties (double DDs / Es), exotic looking Romanian with long straight raven hair, no tats, hot PSE body type. Gonna be back in Germany soon and wondering if she is back from her Easter break.
[/QUOTE]Brenda was the last days at Sharks.

[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2035968]P.S. IMHO her looks are also fading a little bit since about 12 months ago.[/QUOTE]Agreed. But honestly she still have a lot of big time sponsors to keep her busy for awhile.

I'd say if it's still profitable then don't fix what's not broken.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2035990]Brenda was the last days at Sharks.[/QUOTE]That's great news. Thanks.

Can't wait to stuff my face in those big titties of hers again.

Howie.

[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2035968]Same here, I simply stopped booking her.

If I have a girlfriend then I'm loyal and faithful to my girlfriend, but when I'm single I want to be able to enjoy myself with lots of different girls without any restrictions and without any bullshit or jealous mindfuck games.

P.S. IMHO her looks are also fading a little bit since about 12 months ago.[/QUOTE]Dina is a bit of a mystery. She blows hot and cold for no apparent reason.

[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2035968]Same here, I simply stopped booking her.

If I have a girlfriend then I'm loyal and faithful to my girlfriend, but when I'm single I want to be able to enjoy myself with lots of different girls without any restrictions and without any bullshit or jealous mindfuck games.

P.S. IMHO her looks are also fading a little bit since about 12 months ago.[/QUOTE]Dina is a bit of a mystery. She blows hot and cold for no apparent reason.

Agreed with sirioja. Dinas eyes are probably her downside for some. Personally I have other favourites above her at sharks who I find more attractive, but I could swing over on a good day (for her) if she looks happy. Many FKK girls have moody days and can act accordingly. It doesn't mean they cannot be great on other days.

[QUOTE=AnalistCan;2036122]Dina is a bit of a mystery. She blows hot and cold for no apparent reason.[/QUOTE]It is a true GFE package, which I do honestly enjoy when I'm in the mood. It can be fun and refreshing without the cost of having a real GF. Honestly, if I just wanted to fuck a submissive prostitute for a few hours those are easy to come by. Really hard to find a great actress to fake the illusion of a true GF like Dina. Just understand the game she plays and it can be fun. It's just role play, don't get too caught up in it.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2036188]Agreed with sirioja. Dinas eyes are probably her downside for some. Personally I have other favourites above her at sharks who I find more attractive, but I could swing over on a good day (for her) if she looks happy. Many FKK girls have moody days and can act accordingly. It doesn't mean they cannot be great on other days.[/QUOTE]No, for me, Dina is pretty face and beautiful blue eyes, just sometimes her eyes are not really fresh, maybe she needs, to resist to this bad job. When I wrote a bit big ass, I meant not slim, but I prefer rather than ultra thin Paloma, and not much cellulite for Dina. One of the prettiest at Sharks for me, but not among my best Sharks girls in room, I preferred fresh, cute Mersi. Hu.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2035864]
She likes to play games, just play along and don't take it too serious and you'll be fine. People here get too upset because they fell for her games. Just have a grip of reality and you will have yourself a good time. All my friends that tried her also said she is the best prostitute in town. Good luck and have fun! Also she might be under the delusion that she is not a prostitute from time to time. She is a good actress, so just be careful. But can't beat the service![/QUOTE]I'm usually a specialist in getting upset, that's why I am done with Artemis. So I do understand some guys have had their stories with her, and I guess I was just lucky with the timing and all the good things happened. So beautiful eyes and smile, even her pussy had a touch of Ferrari.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2035663]I have never met Dina. Where does she sit normally?[/QUOTE]She usually sits at the beginning of the bar counter. She does not kiss in 50/30 session and she makes that very clear upfront.

[QUOTE=AnalistCan;2036124]Dina is a bit of a mystery. She blows hot and cold for no apparent reason.[/QUOTE]She is not a mystery at all. If you can pay more than 150 euros, you can tell she has very strong pussy muscles. LOL.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2036477]She usually sits at the beginning of the bar counter.[/QUOTE]On the left side of the bar counter as you enter. 2-3 bar stools after the counter opening gap. On her left would be Nicoletta.

From my 3 years experience so far, she is always in a good mood if you catch her in the morning or early afternoon before 5 pm. Her mood becomes very unpredictable after that, depending on how she fared with her earlier customers. Which is why I session with her only if I can get her early.

She has been putting on weight though and might fall outside my specs soon.

First of all: in general the times of 50 for 30 are over in Rhine / Main FKK-Clubs. The only recommendable girl for this is Oprah / black African. She gave DFK like a real girlfriend. With Mandy I have added CIM. So that don't count. I certainly have paid already a lot more than 150. - euro per session. But this has been with the all time European CIM-queen Linda (f) from Czech Republic.

For Dina I would never pay that amount, because of her arrogant attitude. Dinas proportions compared to Linda (f) are way out of shape. Other words: Dina is light years away from linda (f) s hourglass figure, plus her bookingrate clearly estimates that she can't.

Play in linda (f) s serviceleague either.

[QUOTE=AnalistCan;2036124]Dina is a bit of a mystery. She blows hot and cold for no apparent reason.[/QUOTE]Usually this tells about lack of professionalism. This is typical for amateurs.

[QUOTE=PunchBowl;2036870]First of all: in general the times of 50 for 30 are over in Rhine / Main FKK-Clubs. The only recommendable girl for this is Oprah / black African. She gave DFK like a real girlfriend. With Mandy I have added CIM. So that don't count. I certainly have paid already a lot more than 150. - euro per session. But this has been with the all time European CIM-queen Linda (f) from Czech Republic.

For Dina I would never pay that amount, because of her arrogant attitude. Dinas proportions compared to Linda (f) are way out of shape. Other words: Dina is light years away from linda (f) s hourglass figure, plus her bookingrate clearly estimates that she can't.

Play in linda (f) s serviceleague either.[/QUOTE]But when You arrive at Sharks, among 100 GND who could make You becoming blind, at least if your eyes work, You notice Dina among others. I never noticed Linda. Cz in Hessen? Where is she hidden?

About Dina, she was not arrogant in room, we were just not into same foreplay, so 1 h, 100 , and plenty other more GFE girls for me after. At this time, there were many pretty, GFE girls at Sharks. No big problem for me about Dina, each one own business, just pleasure for my eyes, looking at her walking.

[QUOTE=Jymondor;2036895]Usually this tells about lack of professionalism. This is typical for amateurs.[/QUOTE]Exactly, and also typical for female 'logic.'

She once acted very jealously after she saw me go upstairs with another girl, so I asked her in a bit of a sarcastic/humorous way: "And what about you? Did you stay a 'virgin' for me all those weeks since my last visit, and you did not go upstairs with other men?"

She walked away angry, and I've never taken her to a room since. Too much of a prima donna who thinks that she's the only good looking girl in Sharks, and the huge amount of cash that some sugar daddies have spent on her in the past seems to have gone to her head.

I did notice however for the last 6 months or so that she sits around more and more without any customers, or just chatting to guys who subsequently don't take her to a room, and her once famous curves seem to have gone more pear shape.

[QUOTE=PunchBowl;2036870]FDinas proportions compared to Linda (f) are way out of shape. Other words: Dina is light years away from linda (f) s hourglass figure.[/QUOTE]Yes sure. That might be your special taste.

HB.

[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2036976]I did notice however for the last 6 months or so that she sits around more and more without any customers, or just chatting to guys who subsequently don't take her to a room, and her once famous curves seem to have gone more pear shape.[/QUOTE]She told me she got a boyfriend about 6 months ago, he makes a lot of money but she still want to work because freedom? I don't know if that's BS or not but could explain why she is putting on more weight. They get too comfortable when they have boyfriends. She showed me pictures of him and he looks like a typical Romanian pimp except he is not Romanian! I guess that's spec you need to be for these FKK prostitutes to fuck you for free and pay for you LOL! I made sure I CIM as many times as possible and told her to go DFK her boyfriend later.

I still think her ass is just about the right amount of fat still for me and her pussy squeeze message is also very professional. I like some meat on the bones so it's all good, plus I still can't find another hooker that can squeeze their pussy as good as this one. I'd say if she doesn't gain 10 kgs more then she is still fuckable for me.

[QUOTE=PunchBowl;2036870] Other words: Dina is light years away from linda (f) s hourglass figure, plus her bookingrate clearly estimates that she can't.

Play in linda (f) s serviceleague either.[/QUOTE]Nope Dina is light years away from Linda F service league. BTW Does Linda F still work at Swiss club Life as Jaqueline?

[QUOTE=Craiova;2037175] BTW Does Linda F still work at Swiss club Life as Jaqueline?[/QUOTE]She is listed as working today on their website.

HB.

For those who don't remember linda (f)/ cz / palace aka Adriana / oase aka Sydney / Globe aka Carolina / FKK world google Lily Madisson / Score models and you have a perfect lookalike, only that linda (f) looks 10 years younger with no Tattoos. As a matter of fact was linda (f) never abandoned at the bar like Dina is at Sharks. For those who can afford it linda (f) is working at club life / theübendorf / ch starting from 240 CHF. / per 30. And hundreds of customers have described her oral skills as unbeatable!

A confection size 36 in combination with f-cub naturals vs. Saggy b-cubs of Dina with an 36 ass.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2037184]She is listed as working today on their website.[/QUOTE]Thanks but unfortunately without pictures. I remember at beginning at her Life time around 2012 she had some pictures there. And 28? Guess add around 10 years.

But sex with her was great some years ago at the good old Oase times. Linda F worked hard on me to get me as client and I refused her many years, which I found out later was a big big mistake. So our first session was in 2010 and some month later she left Oase and went to this Swiss club.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2037196]Thanks but unfortunately without pictures. I remember at beginning at her Life time around 2012 she had some pictures there. And 28? Guess add around 10 years.

[/QUOTE]"For privacy reasons" is what the website says. The pics were without face anyway. Had my fist session with her at Palace in October 2004.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2037198]"For privacy reasons" is what the website says. The pics were without face anyway. Had my fist session with her at Palace in October 2004.[/QUOTE]You had session with her? Didn't know that she was skinny at that time. LOL.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2037198]"For privacy reasons" is what the website says. The pics were without face anyway. Had my fist session with her at Palace in October 2004.

HB.[/QUOTE]That's right: As good as she might have been at Oase (and she also did a stint at World, don't forget, as Adrianna), Linda was at her best during her early days at Palace. She was young, the FKK scene was wilder then (my opinon) than today, and she was really eager to please. In her early Palace days, it was easy to get to session with her, multiple times per night, if you wanted. She was completely un-jaded, not at all tainted by "the business. " Hey, isn't she half-Scottish in addition to Czech? One of my all-time favourites, who used to deliver off-the-hook sessions, BBBJ / CIM was the way to go, on a regular basis.

Is she still booked solid at Life?

Sorry, I just realised this is grossly off topic to the Sharks thread. Apologies.

[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2036976]Exactly, and also typical for female 'logic.'

She once acted very jealously after she saw me go upstairs with another girl, so I asked her in a bit of a sarcastic/humorous way: "And what about you? Did you stay a 'virgin' for me all those weeks since my last visit, and you did not go upstairs with other men?"

She walked away angry, and I've never taken her to a room since. Too much of a prima donna who thinks that she's the only good looking girl in Sharks, and the huge amount of cash that some sugar daddies have spent on her in the past seems to have gone to her head.

I did notice however for the last 6 months or so that she sits around more and more without any customers, or just chatting to guys who subsequently don't take her to a room, and her once famous curves seem to have gone more pear shape.[/QUOTE]Usually, jealous WGs answer it s only their job, but we can choose with who we want to go, meaning: choose me.

Even Megan was prettier when was brunette, and Mandy or Sandra are higher level for sex, for me, but I would be happy to find a few girls as pretty as Dina, when I visit Sharks, unfortunately I didn't see many on my last visits. At least Dina looks like a woman, not a GND little girl like so many now at Sharks.

Linda (f)/ now Jaqueline / club life, theübendorf / ch is consistently booked as she was always in oase from june 2010 to August 2011 where I have already seasoned more than 300 times with her!

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2037053]I still can't find another hooker that can squeeze their pussy as good as this one.[/QUOTE]A few years ago, there was a Cindy at Sharks (Carla at Oase) who could pussy-squeeze with double Dina's pressure. I could compare them as there was an occasion when I sessioned with both on the same day. Does anybody know whether squeezebox Cindy/Carla is still working anywhere?

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2037198]Had my fist session with her at Palace in October 2004.

HB.[/QUOTE]Wow, and she allowed fisting! :)

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2037266]Does anybody know whether squeezebox Cindy/Carla is still working anywhere?[/QUOTE]There were (fairly) recent reports of her at Palace, I believe.

[QUOTE=PunchBowl;2037193]For those who don't remember linda (f)/ cz / palace aka Adriana / oase aka Sydney / Globe aka Carolina / FKK world google Lily Madisson / Score models and you have a perfect lookalike, only that linda (f) looks 10 years younger with no Tattoos. And hundreds of customers have described her oral skills as unbeatable[/QUOTE]Hmm Linda's oral skills were indeed really good, but unbeatable? No way! For instance Linda can't perform deep throat. At same time were Russian Steffi and Cz Hannah at Oase. Both girls had better oral skills and perform DT. I know at least some dozen girls with at least same or even higher oral skills than Linda F. But the performance from Linda was great in total. Compared to this nowadays "superstars" like Sharks Dina or Megan with only kindergarten sex.

[QUOTE=PunchBowl;2037193]For those who don't remember linda (f)/ cz / palace aka Adriana / oase aka Sydney / Globe aka Carolina / FKK world google Lily Madisson / Score models and you have a perfect lookalike, only that linda (f) looks 10 years younger with no Tattoos. As a matter of fact was linda (f) never abandoned at the bar like Dina is at Sharks. For those who can afford it linda (f) is working at club life / thebendorf / ch starting from 240 CHF. / per 30. And hundreds of customers have described her oral skills as unbeatable!

A confection size 36 in combination with f-cub naturals vs. Saggy b-cubs of Dina with an 36 ass.[/QUOTE]So, just go to your Linda and pay Swiss rate, like I do for Kate or Isabella at Globe, when I paid 50/30 mn for them at Sharks or World, but some guys and I know some of her clients, seem happy to go with Dina for 50/30 mn. I never even tried to repeat with her since 2014, but some enjoy with her, and at least she is one of very rare pleasure now at Sharks for my eyes. Even my eyes were very often burned by high mountain very powerful sun, even she is not slim, but nothing really saggy for me and woman look.

At the moment, which Sharks girl is prettier than Dina, with prettier face? After Megan left. Also, how many of us make as much money as her per month? Let me know.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2037322]Hmm Linda's oral skills were indeed really good, but unbeatable? No way! For instance Linda can't perform deep throat. At same time were Russian Steffi and Cz Hannah at Oase. Both girls had better oral skills and perform DT. I know at least some dozen girls with at least same or even higher oral skills than Linda F. But the performance from Linda was great in total. Compared to this nowadays "superstars" like Sharks Dina or Megan with only kindergarten sex.[/QUOTE]Sex is not only DT or CIM / COF or fucking all holes, even in brothel with a prostitute. Real men fell from the tree a few years ago and learned to walk standing up. At World, they are building a new attraction for past men who want to behave like bonobo, fucking girls in a tree.

At least, Megan and Dina are pretty, good start to enjoy, only 1 hour room with Dina, but more than 35 1 h30 rooms with Megan, maybe again at Globe, because I want to always stay a kid, even when I will be very old without teeth, I m not interested to play porn actor with women and when German porn Liza GT asked me to fuck her hard, after 2 minutes she was crying and I had to stop and apologize, even it is her claimed game but her vagina can't afford. I don t even say about anal, not allowed by anal girls: too big, so only kisses and kindergarten games, but I enjoy with my GFE girls.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2037266]Does anybody know whether squeezebox Cindy/Carla is still working anywhere?[/QUOTE]She is not working anymore.

HB.

Dear all,

I've been enjoying reading the forum for quite a while now and I have decided to give my contribution.

I usually visit Sharks and Oase in the Frankfurt region, but during my recent stay I've only visited this club. Over the last 15 days I've been at this club on four different days and I had a really great time on every visit. I have also noticed that the LU changes a lot almost every day (certainly every week). The most crowded days I think they are now Fri and Sat. Wed may be a hit or miss for line up, but I was always able to find at least 2-3 girls within my ideal spec (cute face, not-too-skinny, great boobs)!

I've noticed many new faces compared to three months ago and for me the LU is always of very high quality. On Wednesday / Thursday there was a group of new girls going around the club fully clothed for their induction at the club. They seemed very shy and when they entered the club with the appropriate attire (I. E. Naked!) on Thursday, they all sat together without approaching guys too much. Some very nice faces & bodies in this group of new girls, but I was too tired for going with any of them. Maybe next time, if they last!

During my three days at Sharks I had great sessions with girls, who are not frequently mentioned (if at all) on this thread. In my opinion, Carolina (Ro); Alexa (Hun); Lora (or Laura?) (Hun); Elif / Amalia sisters (Ro); Beatrice (Hun); and last but not least Mirella (Ro) provide a very great service and I really enjoyed my time with them.

Many of my favorites may have left as I haven't seen them on any of the days I was there, these include Lena (De), Sophia / Sophie (De), and Scarlett (Ro). Does anyone have any info on the current location of these girls (please)?

The bbq on hot days and the wellness area are also part of the reason I visit Sharks more often than other clubs. We can't survive only on sex. Unfortunately!

[QUOTE=RockyV;2037551]
During my three days at Sharks I had great sessions with girls, who are not frequently mentioned (if at all) on this thread. In my opinion, Carolina (Ro); Alexa (Hun); Lora (or Laura?) (Hun); Elif / Amalia sisters (Ro); Beatrice (Hun); and last but not least Mirella (Ro) provide a very great service and I really enjoyed my time with them.[/QUOTE]Boards are totally overrated concerning girls recommendations. Ofc even at this popular club Sharks you can find enough top girls without any report. Take Carolina, no beauty but a nice GND now around two years at Sharks and before at Atlanta and Royal. You find almost nothing about her on ISG or German boards but performs top level without any upsell.

Boards are more useful about things like the line up, how many girls, special offers, food, atmosphere.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2037589]Boards are totally overrated concerning girls recommendations. Ofc even at this popular club Sharks you can find enough top girls without any report. Take Carolina, no beauty but a nice GND now around two years at Sharks and before at Atlanta and Royal. You find almost nothing about her on ISG or German boards but performs top level without any upsell.

Boards are more useful about things like the line up, how many girls, special offers, food, atmosphere.[/QUOTE]Yes, I totally agree with that and more info on lineup would be very helpful.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2037589]Boards are totally overrated concerning girls recommendations. Ofc even at this popular club Sharks you can find enough top girls without any report. Take Carolina, no beauty but a nice GND now around two years at Sharks and before at Atlanta and Royal. You find almost nothing about her on ISG or German boards but performs top level without any upsell.

Boards are more useful about things like the line up, how many girls, special offers, food, atmosphere.[/QUOTE]Fully agree with you, that it is why I never report the name of any girl, I choose my girls without reading or following any advices, just follow my own feelings.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2037589]Boards are totally overrated concerning girls recommendations. [/QUOTE]90% agree. But it can be worth trying to figure out which other posters somewhat share taste with you. Still I have yet to see someone like Sidona mentionned here in the Sharks thread hardly ever. And to me she is easily a top 3 girl there now. The only other mention of her here on the boards is from PChew 2 years ago, and now she looks better then in the past...

[QUOTE=Pistons;2037652]90% agree. But it can be worth trying to figure out which other posters somewhat share taste with you. Still I have yet to see someone like Sidona mentionned here in the Sharks thread hardly ever. And to me she is easily a top 3 girl there now. The only other mention of her here on the boards is from PChew 2 years ago, and now she looks better then in the past...[/QUOTE]See here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=2030970&viewfull=1#post2030970[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2037652]Still I have yet to see someone like Sidona mentionned here in the Sharks thread hardly ever. And to me she is easily a top 3 girl there now. The only other mention of her here on the boards is from PChew 2 years ago, and now she looks better then in the past...[/QUOTE]If you do a search, you will see that YamaYama silent-Oed her in November 2016, and that I gave good reports on her in July and in August 2016.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2037728]...YamaYama silent-Oed her in November 2016...[/QUOTE]Just for your referece.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1966958]...4) Sidonia 1900-2000 100 E; the first time in the past two years. In a room my 30 min DATY with my knees on the floor leading her to silent O, BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie and missionary (sex for 13 min) and my 15 min massage on her were what we enjoyed. Repeat....[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Pistons;2037652]Sidona mentionned here in the Sharks thread hardly ever. [/QUOTE]She was one of my worst sessions at Sharks ever.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2037771]She was one of my worst sessions at Sharks ever.

HB.[/QUOTE]My condolences.

LOL at yamayama's silent o's.

I've gone with Sidona twice. First time was most passionate. But 2nd time she looked better. She is quite fit now.

(PS: we only play chess in the room)

[QUOTE=Pistons;2038009]
I've gone with Sidona twice. First time was most passionate. But 2nd time she looked better. She is quite fit now.

(PS: we only play chess in the room)[/QUOTE]Hope she let you win.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2038011]Hope she let you win.

HB.[/QUOTE]More importantly, she allways get an O after I've submitted her my tower. But a normal round usually starts with her making a push towards my forward leaning bishop. You may call it a salah...

In the end, we both win...

I know about the AO clubs like Dietzenback, etc.

I would like to discuss AO girls in FKK like Sharks, Artemis, Palace, World, etc.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2038048]I would like to discuss AO girls in FKK like Sharks, Artemis, Palace, World, etc.[/QUOTE]Good luck!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2038009]My condolences.

LOL at yamayama's silent o's.

I've gone with Sidona twice. First time was most passionate. But 2nd time she looked better. She is quite fit now.

(PS: we only play chess in the room)[/QUOTE]I remember that I was in the room with Sedonia while ago just because she was feriend with Selena. But I cannot remember any details. It means neither good nor awful. Simply nothing to remember.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2038048]I know about the AO clubs like Dietzenback, etc.

I would like to discuss AO girls in FKK like Sharks, Artemis, Palace, World, etc.[/QUOTE]Some girls will accept for extra money, I am obviously not interested in it to put my life in any kind of danger just for 5 minutes pleasure never forget if she will do it with you she will do it with others. I always repeat the same thing, just visit a doctor (specialized in MST) and ask him what he thinks about AO with prostitutes who has most probably 1000 of clients every year. I have done it several times that it is why I will never do it.

[QUOTE=Jymondor;2038066]Good luck![/QUOTE]Depends on how much he's willing to spend and who he wants to AO with. No luck is needed. There are girls that's willing or they just say no, no black list or anything. I've asked a few girls just out of curiosity and some said no but all still wanted my business. Just don't be a creep about it and girls will brush it off. To be honest, the bareskin trojans I use are just as good as AO, I just ask to see how desperate the girls want my business.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2038013]More importantly, she allways get an O after I've submitted her my tower. But a normal round usually starts with her making a push towards my forward leaning bishop. You may call it a salah...

In the end, we both win...[/QUOTE]More likely just a pawn sacrifice.

Sidona is the same as Sidonia? She is optically in my spec range but somehow I never took a session with her so far. Perhaps face appeal is slightly lacking? Anyhoo, a few months ago, some dude posted his trip report here that he took her (he spelled her Sadonya or Sadonia or something like that, but likely the same girl) and her friend Sonia and he claimed the girls indulged in plenty of wate.r spo$rts including in each other's mouths. That reported looked a bit suspicious, but anyway, after reading it I have struck her off my list. Sorry, but I am happy to be close minded sometimes.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2038140]Depends on how much he's willing to spend and who he wants to AO with. No luck is needed. There are girls that's willing or they just say no, no black list or anything. I've asked a few girls just out of curiosity and some said no but all still wanted my business. Just don't be a creep about it and girls will brush it off. To be honest, the bareskin trojans I use are just as good as AO, I just ask to see how desperate the girls want my business.[/QUOTE]No doubts that AO is available in Sharks and other FKK. However it is strictly prohibited and girl can be fired in a moment after management will know that she performed AO in the club. So we do not discuss AO here and do not disclose girls names. So my "good luck" was about finding the thread with AO discussion on major FKK.

[QUOTE=Jymondor;2038293]No doubts that AO is available in Sharks and other FKK. However it is strictly prohibited and girl can be fired in a moment after management will know that she performed AO in the club. [/QUOTE]It can also result in a ban for the guy, not only the girl. And from July it will be illegal and heavily fined for the guys.

HB.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2038163]More likely just a pawn sacrifice.[/QUOTE]Well, so far she has had me check mate every time, so I've had to pay her up.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2038282] Anyhoo, a few months ago, some dude posted his trip report here that he took her (he spelled her Sadonya or Sadonia or something like that, but likely the same girl) and her friend Sonia and he claimed the girls indulged in plenty of wate.r spo$rts including in each other's mouths. That reported looked a bit suspicious, but anyway, after reading it I have struck her off my list. Sorry, but I am happy to be close minded sometimes.[/QUOTE]You think sperm is cleaner than p? All these prostitutes takes CIM. Which is more dirty than p. They are prostitutes, they do dirty stuff for money, chances are low to find some clean princess. Even the most arrogant princesses at these FKK will do the most dirty stuff for money.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2038613]You think sperm is cleaner than p? All these prostitutes takes CIM. Which is more dirty than p. They are prostitutes, they do dirty stuff for money, chances are low to find some clean princess. Even the most arrogant princesses at these FKK will do the most dirty stuff for money.[/QUOTE]Are you a mind reader? Never said any such thing. I simply said I put her on my black list.

Safe to say, we are all aware that girls do a lot of things behind the doors; thanks for the lecture however.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2038695]Are you a mind reader? Never said any such thing. I simply said I put her on my black list.

Safe to say, we are all aware that girls do a lot of things behind the doors; thanks for the lecture however.[/QUOTE]Not lecturing. If you blacklist her that's your choice. All I'm saying is if your only reason to blacklist her was for her taste in p then you should blacklist a lot of these other prostitutes as well. Personally I rather have them taste p then cum. Much cleaner.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2038613]You think sperm is cleaner than p? All these prostitutes takes CIM. Which is more dirty than p. They are prostitutes, they do dirty stuff for money, chances are low to find some clean princess. Even the most arrogant princesses at these FKK will do the most dirty stuff for money.[/QUOTE]You seem to be quite sufficient, may be are you not aware that some girls are providing 0 extra, no CIM, I don't believe they are dirty.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2038738]Not lecturing. If you blacklist her that's your choice. All I'm saying is if your only reason to blacklist her was for her taste in p then you should blacklist a lot of these other prostitutes as well. Personally I rather have them taste p then cum. Much cleaner.[/QUOTE]In what world is P cleaner than semen?

[QUOTE=Takedown;2039153]In what world is P cleaner than semen?[/QUOTE]I believe he is talking about peach juice.

The other p is filled with toxins the body wants to get rid of... while cum is filled with lifegiving entities... but he could be from imaginationland (the one they visit in that double episode in south park)

Was at Sharks over the weekend. It was a very slow weekend. On Sat, I didn't see the line for the room at all, if any. VIP sections were all closed. On Monday, I felt like it was more girls than the guys in the club! Better for me, as everyone is available. But I also feel bad for most of the girls sitting around doing nothing. I am pretty sure a few of them went home without any rooms.

A lot of girls were missing. Nicolette, Roxana, Carolina and many others were not there. If someone knows about Nicolette where about please PM me.

[B]Anita[/B] - long brunette, beautiful blue / green eyes, a little white / pale skin, she likes to wear a towel around her waist, likes to sit on the single couch facing the bar by the locker, nice and very sweet girls, highly recommend her.

[B]Steffi[/B] - I have not been with Steffi since I started to go with [B]Evita[/B] but now I know why I really liked her in the past. We picked up where we left off in no time. It was a slow weekend that I was her very first customer on Sat and I arrived very late.

[B]Everlina[/B] - she is becoming a little busy so it's getting harder to grab her when I wanted to. I like the no pressure and no drama girls and she is one of the girls that will not give you any dramas. Plus I find her pretty.

[B]Amalia[/B] - after rejecting her so many times and she was very cool about it every times, I promised her on Sat that I will take her on Mon, and actually shook hand with her. She was very surprised when I went to grab her as I guess most people don't keep their promises? I like her. She is nice and good in the room. Will definitely try her and her sister next time.

[B]Lavinia[/B] - I have been with her long time ago and always find her attractive with a very nice body that is just my type. I wanted to take her many times in the past few trips and Everlina even went in the locker to look for Lavinia for me. She was not so busy so I was able to grab her. Wow, what have I been missing all this time. I had a great time with her. She is very funny and the room with her just flew by. She is also one of the girls that won't give you any dramas outside the room. Will definitely take her next time I see her again.

[B]Madalina[/B] - she came back from ROM on Sat. I always try to have the very last session with her as for some reason, not sure why, I always able to finish and had a great time with her, even after multiple days trip, while with others, eventhough I really like them, I could not finish.

Some of the girls that are mentioned lately, I saw: Dina on Sat, Sidonia and her buddy Sabin (only on Mon), Amalia & Elif, Patricia (Mol), Jnpr30 your Magda was there, not so busy, and many others (ask and I will try to answer if your girls are there).

Maybe you can ask Dina about her "sister" Nicoletta.

For her fans, Megan on second Globe tour.

Arrived Sharks club around 16:00 after a business meeting in Frankfurt. Lineup was extremely poor. All my regulars were not there at time I got there. I had to try a new girl.

1). Sonia, 21 yo blonde, RO, about 155 cm.

17:45-18:40. 100 E. Face / body / service, 7/7/7.

She tried four times to persuade me to take her. I just didn't want to hurt her too much, and there was not many choice at the moment, so we went upstairs. Massage, DATY, caresses, kissing, etc. Nothing special. After sex, we chatted ten minutes then I closed the session. Might or might not repeat.

2). Lavinia, 23 yo blonde, half Ro half Hu. One of famous girls at Sharks.

21:00-21:30. 50 E.

When I decided to leave, suddenly, I saw Lavinia. She was one of my favorites last year. But today I was not sure if I really want her. After she told me there was no much business for her today, I decided to offer "courtesy" half-hour session due to our long term friendship. To be honest, I should spend more time with her, but I wasn't in good mood today. In the room, Lavinia told me that Bianca, another my favorite, was on vacation. And she also told me that the blonde Steffi was still at Sharks. I was glad to know that. Lavinia is my friend. She knew whom I liked. Good girl. Must repeat.

I saw Dina Hu. She was still very busy. She just said Hi to me then disappeared.

Regina (or Regiana) Hu came back. She recognized me immediately. But she was also very busy on Monday. I didn't find her the rest of evening.

Left at 22:00.

Arrived at 14:00. Lineup was even worse than Monday. Lavinia didn't work that day. I hoped Steffi would work that day. So I came to try my luck. Amalia came to ask if I would like to go with her. She is very cute, we had a session in January. But I told her I was waiting for Steffi. She was very disappointed. In order to please her, I told her if I come here tomorrow, I would offer her one hour session. She hugged me and kissed me then went away.

At 15:00, I was very excited to see Steffi appeared at the front desk. I went there directly and told her I was waiting for her. She smiled but called me"liar". Then she asked me to wait for her ten minutes. When I sat sofa outside locker room, I saw Dina with street clothes at Front desk. She looked at my eye, so I had to go outside to say Hi to her. I asked if she would work today. She said she would work tomorrow and asked me if I would like to come seeing her tomorrow. I said yes. Then we set an appointment at Wednesday 14:30. She left.

Steffi- 23 yo blonde, a girl star at Sharks.

16:30-18:30.

Steffi came out in 15 min. She didn't even looked me. I followed her to bar and told her I was ready for her. She said "you are liar. How many girls you go with today?" I said "only you". She smiled again. I begged her to go to room because I had to leave early and would have a conference call from the states that evening. I tried my best to please her. I treated Steffi like my girlfriend, my princess.

In room, massage, petting her, kissing her body, caressing or tickling her sometimes. After sex, we sat together to talk. I hugged her just like hugging my girlfriend. Two hours passed very quickly. If she came earlier, I would like to give her three hours that day. My lovely Steffi, must repeat.

I left before 19:00.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2039199]
[B]Steffi[/B] - I have not been with Steffi since I started to go with [B]Evita[/B] but now I know why I really liked her in the past. We picked up where we left off in no time. It was a slow weekend that I was her very first customer on Sat and I arrived very late.
[/QUOTE]Steffi is very good looking IMHO but I also find Steffi very moody, and she started giving me the 'Dina-treatment' of acting all jealous (deliberately avoiding eye contact etc.) when I don't pick her.

A few weeks ago I approached her, intending to ask her to go to a room, and asked her how she is doing. She acted all aloof and told me she was waiting for a pizza. I got the message and I wished her a bon apptit, but of course I never saw her eating pizza nor did I see her going with other customers. 😂 🙄

She only seems to be interested in sitting around wearing a towel around her waist and talking to other girls. I've seen her many times at Sharks, and she's just sitting around for hours and hours and hours without any customers.

P.S. What's all this bullshit with wearing towels? If they're cold (as Steffi always claims) why not wear some sexy stocking and lingerie? I've seen another (also quite good looking) blond Romanian girl with a towel around her waist all the time, she usually hangs out near one of those couches in front of the stripper pole.

Coming back from a business conference at Frankfurt, I arrived at Sharks at 13:00. While I was waiting for Dina, a tall blonde came to me. She is Esther. She complained that I always took Bianca, without giving her any chance. I apologized to her but told her I was waiting for someone else today. Realizing how sad she was, I changed my mind. I decided to offer her half-hour "courtesy" session before My appointment with Dina.

1). Esther, 24 yo, RO. 13:30-14:00, 50 E.

In the room, we just talked most of time. She actually was very nice to me. I think I need to offer her more sessions in the future. She is more pretty than I thought before. Repeat in the future.

2). Elizabeth, 35 yo brunette, RO, very classic and elegant.

14:30-15:00, 50 E.

I saw Dina arrived around 14:00 and went into locker room. I am not sure if she saw me or not. When I saw her again, she was talking to someone else. I had to sat on the sofa opposite to pole. Meanwhile, Elizabeth sat near me. We started to chat. She was nice and friendly. Although she is 35 yo, I found she was a very attractive lady. After 10 minutes, I felt Dina would go with the guy she was talking to. So I decided to take Elizabeth to room. I felt it was my duty to at least give her some business. She always reminded me of some classic nineteenth century beauties. She looks like a 25 year old girl. I really enjoyed time with her. We also shared some personal life stories with each other. Must repeat.

3). Dina, Queen of Sharks club.

15:45-17:40, 200 E.

Finally, Dina had time for me. Please, your Highness.

Dina always thinks she is a princess in Sharks. Some her sugar daddies always catered to her narcissism. I don't mind doing this either. Sometimes men need a fantasy. If you have choices, Whom do you want to have sex with? A exquisite elegant princess, or a unkempt shabby gypsy girl? The answer is obvious. Dina not only provides regular service, she also gives you a package, a memory, a life story. In real world, if you were lucky enough to have a such beautiful and intelligent young lady like Dina as your girlfriend, you would definitely treat her as your princess! In Sharks, Dina offers this in very cost-effective way. This one of reasons even if she pissed me off twice before, I still go with her. Dina claimed she had magics to take her alienated clients back. Of course, she needs my business too. We laughed together. I told her "you are princess of princesses." She said she should be a queen. OK, Dina's new title, Queen of Sharks.

I offered Dina a package: anytime if she lacked business, she could go directly to me, I would offer her at least one hour session every time she asks. She said I am so sweet to her. I know I would never need to do that. One reason is she has large numbers of sugar daddies. The other reason is her pride would prevent her from begging anyone for business.

Dina told me that the relationship between Nicolette and her had been broken up. She has no idea where Nicolette is now. This worrisome news made me a little bit nervous. I had a strong intuitive feeling that Nicolette would not come back anymore. So sad. Nicolette had been my dreaming lover for long time. I could not imagine that I would never see her anymore.

4). Amalia, 20 yo blonde Romanian with Greek descent.

20:00-21:00, 100 E.

Amalia is my little cutie in Sharks. She started to work about 4 months ago. Since then, she gained more and more popularity, especially among Asians. She is very nice and friendly to me. She could always figure out how to please her customers in her special good manners. I felt I did fall in love with her. Amalia is a rising star. Must repeat. I promised to give her a sessions the next day.

I didn't see Steffi on Wednesday. I tried to find her. Maybe she was busy at that day. I left around 22:00.

Drove from Frankfurt after work. Arrived at 14:00.

Almost at same time, I saw Dina came in. She then disappeared quickly. I got used to that.

Amalia approached me. I remembered my yesterday's promise. So we went upstairs together. I didn't see any other of my regulars at that time.

1). Amalia, 14:25-15:40, 150 E.

She is a real stunner. The more sessions I am with her, the more I like her. Enjoying the great feeling of caressing, petting, and kissing her. But she never allow DFK. It is ok to me. The only annoyance was she checked my condom every 5 minutes. I told her she should trust me, because I care about my safety as seriously as she. After sex, we spent about 20 minutes to talk. She asked me take her sister next time. I was not sure if I want. I had to leave before 16:00 to attend a conference call from my company. Amalia demanded I should come back later this evening for her.

When I came down stairs, I saw Dina happened to stand somewhere near me. I went ahead to tell her I would be back in two hours for her. But to my surprise, she said no. I then knew she might be in bad moods today. I ran away immediately.

Coming back 18:00, I met Dina again. She said she was ready for me. But now I had cold feet. According to my past experience with her, she was moody at this moment. It would mess up something. So I would rather to wait for a while.

2). Regina, 20 yo brunette Hungarian.

18:30-19:30, 100 E.

Finding the new Hungarian girl Regina sitting around bar. She was always busy in the past few days. She was supposed to be in Dina's crew. She had some language barrier, but we still can communicate. She is a nice girl, and she must be very smart. She has very good memories to remember her customers. I saw Dina had been with another customer, so when Regina asked me to take her to room, I did.

She is a beginner, however she worked very hard to please me. Although her beauty is not in the first tier at Sharks, her innocent big eyes attracted me very much. If she could work longer at Sharks, she definitely would become a new star. After sex, surprisingly, Regina told me that she would leave soon. She said she liked here, and guys were nice to her. However, some girl was very angry with her, and even scratched her today one time. I had no idea what she said. I asked if she knew where Nicolette was, she just told me Nicolette would not come back anymore. So sad to hear this.

3). Steffi,

20:30-21:30, 100 E.

Finally I saw Steffi sitting around bar. It seems to me she was talking to a girl with glasses all the time. I felt I had obligation for her. I approached her, standing her right side for 5 minutes. She kept talking to the girl without even looking at me. I could not bear it, I grabbed her arm and told her I was ready for her. However she still kept me distance until I begged her. Then we went to room.

I was her first one on Thursday. In the room, she ridiculed me with irony. I swore that I came here everyday to seek her, but she was absent on Monday and Wednesday. After sex, I hugged her and told her my obligation for her. She seems to be indifferent. She was weird. I am not sure if she really wants my business. I just want help out. I could not believe myself that I only gave her one hour.

4). Amalia. , 22:00-22:30 (courtesy session).

I saw Amalia and her sister Elif were sitting in sunroom and eating. She waved to me and asked me sitting near her side. Amalia is a sunny girl, she always makes me laugh and happy. She told me today was so slow, she only got two more half-hour sessions besides my sessions. I knew it was not true, but I still offered her half-hour "courtesy" session. Inside room, she said "honey, you promised three hours for me today". I said no, but I would like to offer her a session every time I visit Sharks. She always kissed my body. I enjoyed that.

Left around 23:00.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2039249]Regina (or Regiana) Hu came back. She recognized me immediately. But she was also very busy on Monday. I didn't find her the rest of evening.[/QUOTE]Anyone describe what she looks like? I've seen her getting brought up a few times before but I don't think I've seen any description or "behavior" in room about her. I'm always on the market for new Hungarian to try.

Might make a day trip this Saturday.

Uncle,

But so many did believe Dina and Nicoletta were sisters, one more lie in brothels? What a surprise. Lying competition between prostitutes and some faker guys.

Hi gents,

I'm gearing up for my 2nd trip and wondering if Nastia has been seen recently? She was the highlight of my previous trip.

Thank you.

1). Jennifer, 18 yo Romanian blonde with Russian descent, college student.

I spent 5 hours with her on Friday. To me, She is very pretty. She somehow in appearance resembles Nicolette Hu, or Scarlett (Candy), or Alexandra Ro of LR. I noticed her been around for a while, but never had chance to take her to room. Early Friday afternoon, I saw her sitting alone. I approached her, She started to look at me. Her innocent blue eyes were full of desire. She spoke English very well. She told me she is 18-year-old and just started to work here. She planed to work for a few months to earn enough money to cover her next school year's cost. After knowing this, I felt sympathetic toward her, and thought it is my duty to help her business. In room, she was eager to please me. I can tell that she did try her best to make me comfortable. However she was too active to make me a little bit nervous. So I asked for a break in one hour, and promised to take her again in a longer session.

I came back to club at 19:00 and took her again. This time, she figured out way to make me relaxed, comfortable and horny. The whole process is full of affection and passion. I enjoyed that. The activity lasted almost two hours, we all were exhausted. She then went to bar to get drinks for me. She begged me to stay with her for another couple hours. After taking shower, we lay together to chat, fondle and kiss each other. She did give me a fantasy of backing to my college's romantic era. I asked why she put so much makeup. LOL. It was almost 23:00 when we left the room. Beautiful nice girl. Repeat absolutely.

2). Magda, 20 yo Romanian blonde / brunette.

She is a girl with smile all the time, most likely sitting on the sofa which Megan used to sit. She came to me several times before but I never took her. I thought I need to give her chance before I left. So on Friday afternoon we spent one hour in the room. General speaking, she is very good. I don't want to write details. If I knew her earlier, I am sure I would give her more time. Must repeat.

3). Tessa, 20 yo German girl with brown hair, 165 cm.

Early Saturday afternoon, after a girl missing her appointment for 2 hours, I saw a stunning German girl with big colorful tattoo on her shoulder. She is so beautiful that I decided to take her at first glance. She is the famous Tessa De. I heard She is very selective. So I thought I was lucky to be with her. She is perfect inside room. I regretted I didn't know her earlier. I'd like to spend 4 hours in a row with her. Unfortunately she had another appointment after me. I was so sad to say farewell to her. She promised to give me more time if we could meet again. Repeat absolutely.

4). Amalia, 20 yo Romanian blonde with Greek descent.

I kept my promises to give her a session every time I visit Sharks. As I mentioned before, the cutie girl is my new favorite. I don't want to compare Amalia with my other favorites, because every girl is different. During time with Amalia, I treated her as my lover, girlfriend and my little princess. I enjoyed every moment with her. We spent 3 hours together on Friday and Saturday. During this FKK trip, Amalia gave me total 6 hours wonderful time in rooms. Repeat absolutely.

5). Vivien, 27 yo Romanian girl with copper hair.

When I was going to leave at Friday midnight, I saw her sitting her "private" sofa alone. Long time no see. She is still as beautiful and elegant as before. I approached her to test her memory. She obviously had no idea whom I was. Six months ago, we spent three wonderful hours together in room. So frustrated she forgot me so quickly. She begged me not to turn her down. I then sat down, She grabbed my left arm and put her legs on my lap immediately. After I gave her some hints, she finally remembered me, she even recalled my real name. Good girl. I told her that I was very tired today, but I could offer her a "courtesy" session to celebrate our reunion. In the room, we spent all time to talk and kiss. She told me she didn't get as much business as before since she started to work on Monday. I told her I came here everyday this week and I was surprised I never see her until now. We both were happy to finally meet each other. One hour passed very quickly. I had to leave. She was lying on the bed refused to go until I promised to see her Saturday. We set a appointment at 1 o'clock PM at Saturday afternoon.

I arrived at 12:30 on Saturday. When I entered, I saw Jennifer and Melanie, my two favorites had been in club. They successively came to me. I had to tell them I was waiting for Vivien. Jennifer was sad to know I was waiting for "other" girls, after all we spent 5 hours together the day before. Melanie was mad at me and she claimed she would not go with me today even if I beg her (she did later).

I was surprised Vivien missed our appointment. I kept waiting for her until 3 pm. Meanwhile, my favorite Amalia approached me. I told her I was waiting for Vivien. She said "you promised me a session today", I said yes but I need to fulfill Vivien first. I also saw Dina came in. She looked at me very coldly and did not even want to say Hi to me.

At 3 pm, I thought Vivien might be late or absent. All my favorites were with their customers at that time. I was thinking to leave without any session. Just at that moment, I saw the gorgeous German girl, Tessa. I immediately go to ask her if she wanted to spend time with me. She said yes. As we going to stairs, Vivien came out of locker room. She yelled at me "liar". I knew she misunderstood me. I pretend not to hear it and left with Tessa quickly.

I have mentioned Tessa above. Absolutely, she became my favorite.

Around 18:00, I thought I need to explain or apologize to Vivien. After all she was one of girls I like most in my list. I went ahead to sit on her sofa to wait for her again. Meanwhile, my lovely princess Amalia came to me again. She sat on my lap, hugged me kissed me and begged me to go to room. Suddenly, she released me and said"your appointment" then ran away. I then saw Vivien standing about 2 meters away.

Vivien was still very mad at me. I tried my best to explain what happened. She thought I booked three girls at 1 PM. This is totally nonsense. She then demanded to go to room right now. I agreed in order to please her. It was the first time I realized she was a strong-minded lady. In room, it seemed OK. We still spent most of time talking. She is a very intelligent women. I always think she should not be a WG. We took a short break in the middle of session, she ordered me to get drinks for her! Ten minutes before our two-hour session, she said she would call her daughter. We finished. I don't know if I would have chance to be with her.

6). Melanie. 22 yo Romanian girl, fair skin with straight black hair.

She was one of the top 7 girls in my last year old list. (Nicolette, Dina, Sandra, Megan, Steffi, Melanie, Anya). After Vivien, I tried to find her. She was extremely busy on Saturday. Around 23:00, I finally caught her. She was still mad at me. She thought I dared to use a silly excuse (waiting for xxxxxx) to reject her. For about 20 minutes, I hugged her and kept begged her to give me at least half hour or one hour in room, because I would leave For UK on Sunday, and I was not sure if I could meet her again in next 3 months. She was unmoved. So I had to give up. But I am sure I still like her very much. I hope I could meet her again.

7). Steffi.

I was not sure if Steffi really want my business. In these two days, several times I approached her or sat somewhere near her, or stood her side silently for 5-10 minutes, waiting for her to take the initiative to ask me first. I swore if she requested sessions I would offer her immediately. But nothing happened. It seemed She was only interested in talking to her buddies. She didn't even look at me. Her pride might alienate some of her good customers.

I left at midnight. Plan to visit Sharks in June or July.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2039199]Was at Sharks over the weekend. It was a very slow weekend. On Sat, I didn't see the line for the room at all, if any. VIP sections were all closed. On Monday, I felt like it was more girls than the guys in the club! Better for me, as everyone is available. But I also feel bad for most of the girls sitting around doing nothing. I am pretty sure a few of them went home without any rooms.

A lot of girls were missing. Nicolette, Roxana, Carolina and many others were not there. If someone knows about Nicolette where about please PM me.

[B]Anita[/B] - long brunette, beautiful blue / green eyes, a little white / pale skin, she likes to wear a towel around her waist, likes to sit on the single couch facing the bar by the locker, nice and very sweet girls, highly recommend her.

[B]Steffi[/B] - I have not been with Steffi since I started to go with [B]Evita[/B] but now I know why I really liked her in the past. We picked up where we left off in no time. It was a slow weekend that I was her very first customer on Sat and I arrived very late..[/QUOTE]Did you see Brenda or Nastia?

I'm back in town and hoping to see these faves or missed-and-follow-ups. Have you seen them around, and what day is best for them? I'll be around for a week:

Paloma.

Annabelle.

Madi / Jessica.

Esther.

Nastia.

Sharks.

INTRODUCTION.

Just passing through FRA, I had an overnight stopover and decided to spend a day at Sharks. Connected with Breadman and had a good time despite the scarcity of my regular favorite girls.

GETTING THERE.

See my previous reports for details about transportation and logistics:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=1670872#post1670872[/URL]

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=1655502#post1655502[/URL]

I took the AIRliner bus directly from FRA--because of my layover was just under 24 hours, my airline would retain my bag so I could save the baggage storage fee at the airport, which was nice.

The bus took a slightly different route than usual, evidently this is a temporary change, but still stopped at the same stops. Nothing worth buying in Hornbach this time but their free WLAN still works.

VISIT.

As I walked up the parking lot driveway around 1315 I noticed that there were already 20-25 cars alongside the fence--pretty busy already. I lucked out, or the front desk girl remembered me, and I got one of the last full-height lockers.

I did my usual shower / eat routine; the lineup already seemed pretty good but only Mia and Lara stood out in the daytime crew--most of the other girls were not familiar.

Anka recognized me and said Hi, I noted her new blond hair which makes her look great. But she is a bit big for my tastes, and I never take her up, and she is politely always accepting of that. I think that's pretty cool--when girls know they aren't really your type, and accept that. I guess if I was a girl and threw myself onto a guy I'd expect to be taken up, as all guys are horndogs, but in an FKK with so much variety and choice you can just pick exactly what you want.

I hung out at my usual spot in the front sofas; the same German guy from last time was holding forth in his usual spot, with his usual slim cutie in his lap and all to himself.

Sometime in the late afternoon Breadman introdouced himself and we chatted for a while, comparing notes on his recent visits. I had been watching the new arrivals and really wasn't seeing any of the old guard of stars showing up. Like I didn't see Evita until perhaps 7 or 8 pm, as she must've been snapped up immediately after arrival for multi-hour sessions.

The lack of familiar girls meant that I would have to try some new girls for a change. I did 30 min sessions with Emma, a Magda / Sylvia duo, and Elisa. I suppose turnover is good for a club, as older stars retire or whatever, but it was a little disconcerting to not have as many of them around as usual. I guess my underlying fear here is that the upcoming law change is prompting the better girls to seek greener pastures, as the new crop of girls seem more mercenary.

It was quite a while before I found a girl, and I kind of just bumped into Emma, who was sitting at the bar on the tank side. She got up close and personal and I liked the feel of her butt cheeks as she put her arms around my neck, so I took her upstairs.

EMMA cute GND, Cara Delavigne.

My session with Emma was a good club standard session; she was a little detached but took my first-cum-of-the-day CIM finish like a champ. About 5 or 6 spasms in she gave me a look like "what, you saved all this up for a month or something?" but still held on and took the entire load before spitting in the trash and rinsing with Listerine. 50 + 50 bonus.

When I went to get food they were out of my usual oversalted roast chicken, so I made do with the ham slices and potatoes and veg. The nice weather and late sunset made it nice in the sunroom and outside on the terrace, and some guys were hanging out by the pool. Still too cold to swim I thought. Breadman had told me it was super warm when he went to Oase and the girls were outside playing, which was one of the things I missed from the old Oase days.

I hung out at my usual spot in the front sofas for a while and chatted with a couple of guys, comparing notes about girls. Sitting in the big chair-and-a-half that faces the bar, I met a bunch of new girls--some who I saw at my last visit but mostly weren't longtime Sharks girls.

I had put petite cutie Magda, who reminds me of Julie at Mainhattan, on my to-do list from my previous visit, and she was hanging out with petite tanned blond bolt-on girl Sylvia at the sofas next to the front stairs. During my screening interview with the two of them standing next to each other I decided to take them both up, as the contrast between the two (blonde vs brunette, big bolt-ONS vs naturals).

I haven't had a double in almost ten years; when I started going to FKK it was such a novelty and as a newbie I took advantage of all the wonders of FKK early on. CIM? Anal? Two, maybe three girls at once? All for the trivial sum of 50 EUR / option? Woo hoo! Tick all them boxes baby!

But I found after a while that doubles weren't really that great from a service standpoint--I would consistently get better service during one on one sessions, even with the same girls I did a double with. Maybe I'm not alpha male enough to always figure out what to do with the girl that I currently am not penetrating in some way. More likely I got acclimated to having sex with two hot girls (how's that for a dilemma to have?) and the novelty wore off.

MAGDA petite brunette cute and SYLVIA petite boltons blonde.

My double with Magda and Sylvia was pretty much in the same way. Nice eye candy as I had been ogling the both of them for a couple of visits. They took turns blowing me, then I started with Sylvia in mish. Fucking both was nice, each in their own way--I'd do one in one position, then try the other one in the same position. Like an A / be test for you tech geeks. Hmmm. Which port is giving me the better user interface? Lining both the girls up doggie and doing one while fondling the other (albeit with a condom change) was the highlight of the session. Of the two, Sylvia was definitely more into it, and was the one who got me to come shortly after switching to cowgirl with her.

I relaxed for a bit and chatted with Breadman and the other guys I met this visit. It was great to compare notes as it makes it easier to pick if you can consult rules from trusted friends. Not like on Amazon where vendors will send free product to reviewers in exchange for posting an Amazon review.

Actually I could support such a model in the FKK industry--if I could volunteer to be such a reviewer. I'd might even do some of the be-team girls that way.

I know, it'll be a tough job, but someone's got to do it.

Lots of the usual Sharks stars were not present, and it was a bit odd. I hope this doesn't mean they have moved on. And if they have, where hast they gone?

There seems to be an end-of-days mood in the air--perhaps it is from the chatter on the boards about the upcoming July law doing away with BBBJ. The increased mercenary nature of the girls seems to be a byproduct, as they seek to optimize their earning capacity with each new customer. At least I can provide them with CIM bonuses for the time being.

I was also dismayed to see so many girls wrapped up in towels. What the fuck? One of the pleasures of FKK is the spectacle of so many young naked girls wandering around, tits and pussies in plain view, and this new towel wrap trend is not cool.

It took me a while to find my 3rd girl--I had my eye on a few new hotties but either they got snapped up before I could make my move or didn't pass my boner test in our screening interview.

I lucked out in running into a pretty blond German girl who I met at the bar earlier in the day although I wasn't ready at the time. Elisa was a little thicker than my usual petite slim things (meaning not fat, just a bit more whooty in the rear). I had a good feeling about her at the time, but having just done that duo I needed a bit more time to recover. But I shouldn't have waited 4-5 hours, especially because the girls got pretty scarce late in the evening as they got snapped up for sessions.

ELISA blond German girl, big tat on left ribcage and some on knuckles. Looks like Jennifer Lawrence meets Jennifer Aniston.

As expected, my session with Elisa was great. I'm always wary about picking girls later in an FKK day because I do not want to end the day on a bad note. But I wasn't disappointed. Elisa's blowjob was soft and smooth and deep, reminiscent of fellow German girl Mina at Bernds. Is it a German girl thing or just their experience because they're a bit older? After plugging away for a while in doggie I switched back to oral because it was so great. Finally I came in her mouth after quite a bit of oral satisfaction.

I didn't hang out much longer; I knew I wouldn't get back to my Darmstadt hotel until 2 am, and I was feeling a bit tired. So I showered and dressed and took a 10 eur taxi to my hotel.

SUMMARY.

Although my visit to Sharks wasn't spectacular, I still had 3 good sessions and experienced 4 new-to-me hot girls, so I can't complain. As I mentioned to one of the guys earlier in the club, we really have to be thankful that these clubs exist and we get to partake. I'm not giving up on the whole thing--it's too early to say, "yeah, we had a good run, too bad it's gone". But I do notice the changes.

GIRLS I MET / DID.

SORANA "Spain" red bow tie hair up pale skin.

ANKA blonde now still cool.

CATALINA shoulder length blondish hair black tat right forearm black thigh highs.

RHEA not sure of spelling? Tall slender blonde big neckline tats pretty cheekbones blue eyes Nicole Simpson / Bo Derek.

ANITA friend of rhea dark hair Andie MacDowell.

POLINA thick glasses older bulg brunette.

SONIA chubby petite dyed blonde.

SELINA auburn hair to butt.

*EMMA no tats arrow / heart pendant CIM ex Feigenblatt.

JULIA saggy Angelina Jolie intense big eyes.

BRENDA boltons black hair & fishnet stockings.

SYBIL glasses fatty "from France" with friend.

RALUCCA reminds me of Ivy but thicker.

LINDA 19 baby fat ponytail GND.

AMALIA blonde GND friendly but later mercenary--must do 1 HR for kiss.

ELECTRA big tit dyed blonde Greece via London. Looks half-asian tons of makeup.

PERLA fat Afro-Dom Republic.

ENYA prettty blonde black garter with her friend.

ALEXANDRA linebacker friend of Enya.

ESTHER didn't remember each other's names at first even though she's recognized me for a bunch of visits in a row.

*MAGDA petite brunette & SYLVIA petite blond boltons double 30 min.

STELLA boy cut short hair teeny.

JESSICA German looks Latin. I thought there was already a Jessica?

*ELISA pretty blonde de black garter then sea foam green top big tat left side J Law meets Anna Kournikova big whooty butt CIM finish.

STEFFI blonde 24 ro good English friend with.

ISSA green eyes short blonde hair glasses tubby.

PAULINA bul hardbody spinner Mexican look good English. Put my arms around her and there is not an ounce of fat around her waist.

ANNABELLE camera tat left thigh Caterina Zeta-Jones.

JENNIFER 18 ro blonde.

FOOD.

Beef gravy stroganoff / goulash?

Vegetarian penne.

Turkey in gravy.

Roast chicken all taken, replaced with ham slices but back at 9 pm.

Potatoes.

Veggies.

White rice.

REGULARS I SAW.

Mia.

Lara.

Evita busy all afternoon.

Jessica boltons.

Ivy.

NOT SEEN.

Mandy.

Megan.

Sandra.

Patrizia.

Paloma.

Roxanna.

Cosmina.

Helli.

Sidonia.

Sasha.

Nicoletta.

Tommy. Again, your reports are the way to go. Really helpful impressions and info. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2039677]I'm back in town and hoping to see these faves or missed-and-follow-ups. Have you seen them around, and what day is best for them? I'll be around for a week:

Paloma.

Annabelle.

Madi / Jessica.

Esther.

Nastia.[/QUOTE]Madi / Jessika silicon now tour at Globe as Miky. Same for Aurelia for many tours and Megan for second tour. Sharks can't compete for business.

[QUOTE=Tommyseville;2039688]Sharks.

INTRODUCTION.

Just passing through FRA, I had an overnight stopover and decided to spend a day at Sharks. Connected with Breadman and had a good time despite the scarcity of my regular favorite girls.

GETTING THERE.

See my previous reports for details about transportation and logistics:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=1670872#post1670872[/URL]

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=1655502#post1655502[/URL]

I took the AIRliner bus directly from FRA--because of my layover was just under 24 hours, my airline would retain my bag so I could save the baggage storage fee at the airport, which was nice..[/QUOTE]Due to low business conditions over the last quarter's, end of Q1 or in Q2 the girls are trying different things to increase their income: move to another FKK (Austria, Germany, Switzerland), shift to escort in UK or Ireland even Dubai, Paris. Finding a normal job in Romania or Germany. (small minority).

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2039485]2). Regina, 20 yo brunette Hungarian.
... She was supposed to be in Dina's crew ...
However, some girl was very angry with her, and even scratched her today one time. I had no idea what she said. I asked if she knew where Nicolette was, she just told me Nicolette would not come back anymore. So sad to hear this...[/QUOTE]I think we all know what know what being in Dina's crew means. I think our Sharks princess had to keep her girls in line with some scratches. Nicolette probably left because she is done being pimped out by Dina. Dina is no average hooker, she is a princess and a pimp. LOL! I'm sure some shit is going, Dina is too smart to let these girls come with her from Hungary for free. She'll probably have a new batch of girls coming next few months.

Oh well more new Hungarians holes to try! Thanks to our Sharks princess pimp.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2039985]I think we all know what being in Dina's crew means. I think our Sharks princess had to keep her girls in line with some scratches. Nicolette probably left because she is done being pimped out by Dina. Dina is no average hooker, she is a princess and a pimp. LOL! I'm sure some shit is going on, Dina is too smart to let these girls come with her from Hungary for free. She'll probably have a new batch of girls coming next few months.

Oh well more new Hungarians holes to try! Thanks to our Sharks princess pimp.[/QUOTE]Makes me wonder if there are other prostitute pimps out there. Also how much can Dina get from her girls. She's got sugar daddies and other prostitutes to keep her ass fat. That must be the life! I think I'll need to sugar up to Dina next visit to see where she is picking up her workers. After the BBBJ ban I'll just go to where Dina gets her workers LOL!

Dina is the queen of Sharks, and a princess of FKK industry, but she is not a pimp. She has no necessity to do that. A few months ago, Nicolette told me firmly Dina was not her boss, and she didn't give money to Dina. This time, Regina also confirmed that she never give Money to Dina. One fact is, a year ago, it was Nicolette herself come to Sharks, instead of being brought by Dina.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2040035]Dina is the queen of Sharks, and a princess of FKK industry, but she is not a pimp. She has no necessity to do that. A few months ago, Nicolette told me firmly Dina was not her boss, and she didn't give money to Dina. This time, Regina also confirmed that she never give Money to Dina. One fact is, a year ago, it was Nicolette herself come to Sharks, instead of being brought by Dina.[/QUOTE]Sorry but no need to spend 1 second on this kind of topic you / we will never get the truth and it is better like that.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2039999]Makes me wonder if there are other prostitute pimps out there. Also how much can Dina get from her girls. She's got sugar daddies and other prostitutes to keep her ass fat. That must be the life! I think I'll need to sugar up to Dina next visit to see where she is picking up her workers. After the BBBJ ban I'll just go to where Dina gets her workers LOL![/QUOTE]Some were said about pimping, one is now at Artemis, another one is silicon, not sweet Patricia.

I don't know for Dina, but who would ask her sister to pay? I wouldn't not drive my sister to a brothel, like I would not drive my girlfriend to be fucked all day and night to pay my Mercedes, my girlfriends were my real princess, I was lucky for my time with them and Mercedes is not best for balance and grip even when 4 WD, but I m not Romanian, nor Turkish, nor Albanian.

A Hungarian was also said to be at GT.

For sure, not only pimp guys, even too many, some even attending FKK. Also some girls in FKK.

[QUOTE=Hickory;2039626]Hi gents,

I'm gearing up for my 2nd trip and wondering if Nastia has been seen recently? She was the highlight of my previous trip.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Same here, I'll be there next week, did anyone seen Nastia?

I went to Sharks twice this week, both times just had one session. I wasn't very impressed, and found the girls more pushy than they used to be, with some of my old favorites gone. Girls I sessioned with:

Ada (Rom) - skinny blonde, natural a-cups, nostril piercing. BBBJ, CIM, 30 min, 100 eur. Rating 5/10.

Patricia (Mol) - pretty blonde who's been at Sharks for years, high voice. She used to be reliable for a good session, but this one was full of up-sell. She asked me 5 times to CIM within the first 10 minutes, on top of suggesting a full hour a couple of times. When I told her we would see how it goes, she tried her best to rush me to finish. She is a very pretty sight, but service was not good this time. BBBJ, mish, light BLS, doggy, CIM, 30 min, 100 eur, rating 5/10.

I also visited Globe (Zurich) this week, and the service was much better. I will leave a review in that thread, but the short of it is that I think the higher prices are worth it for the better service.

[QUOTE=NF4591;2040375]I went to Sharks twice this week, both times just had one session. I wasn't very impressed, and found the girls more pushy than they used to be, with some of my old favorites gone. Girls I sessioned with:

Ada (Rom) - skinny blonde, natural a-cups, nostril piercing. BBBJ, CIM, 30 min, 100 eur. Rating 5/10.

Patricia (Mol) - pretty blonde who's been at Sharks for years, high voice. She used to be reliable for a good session, but this one was full of up-sell. She asked me 5 times to CIM within the first 10 minutes, on top of suggesting a full hour a couple of times. When I told her we would see how it goes, she tried her best to rush me to finish. She is a very pretty sight, but service was not good this time. BBBJ, mish, light BLS, doggy, CIM, 30 min, 100 eur, rating 5/10.

I also visited Globe (Zurich) this week, and the service was much better. I will leave a review in that thread, but the short of it is that I think the higher prices are worth it for the better service.[/QUOTE]What I notice that many new girls are trying to upsell a lot, they don t want on ly 50 euros for 30 minutes or 100 for 1 hour, they are asking for long sessions including extras.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2039608]Uncle,

But so many did believe Dina and Nicoletta were sisters, one more lie in brothels? What a surprise. Lying competition between prostitutes and some faker guys.[/QUOTE]Sirioja,

See this. Sisterhood was only inside club. No more.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1969271]Dina and Nicoletta are not sisters. They maybe use it as their sales pitch, but they are not.

HB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2040397]Sirioja,

See this. Sisterhood was only inside club. No more.[/QUOTE]French humor. If I recognized Elif and Amelia because they look like each other, Dina is much prettier face than Nicoletta. Nevertheless, a WG should never make pay her brothel sister.

My Isabella and Laura Livia also said to be sisters, at Sharks on beginning of 2014.

Hello everyone!

First time to sharks, and will be there in Wednesday! Just a regular member, so no PM, but if anybody wants to meet up, I will be the Asian walking around looking lost and shark-mauled!

So that means I will have about 50 twins in the club that day. LOL.

I agree with a previous poster about BBQ in FKKs. It has only downsides: long queues, smell of burnt meat around the pool, no fish in the menu, straightforward side-dishes like potatoes and rice replaced by nondescript "salads". Roasting old cow in the open air will not turn it into Angus anyway.

I saw many stunners but many of them showing no interest, probably pre-booked or busy in some capacity. This proved typical of Sharks as opposed to the other FKKs I was to visit on this tour (Paradise Stuttgart, World, Sakura). One looker I'd had my eyes on had totally blended into the sprawling dimly-lit surroundings when I tried to pin her down. She crossed my path again when it was too late, as I was escorting another girl to the room. Aargh!

I did 5 rooms, 3 Rumanians, 1 Slovaq, 1 Kenyan. Not only was the latter short and not overly curvaceous, in the room she made no attempt at any faking. She kept silent as a carp, coldly staring. Still she could do deep-throat (largely lost on me). This must be her core business area. The smell of her sweat had an arousing effect on my reptile brain, so in the end all turned out well.

Air-conditioning in the rooms would have been welcome, FKK World coming to mind in this respect.

Why was I never told Sharks had a 2nd parking lot hidden behind the bushes across the street? I drove all the way to the end of the main parking lot, only to have dangerously to drive back the whole length in reverse. They could at least appoint a valet to warn off drivers when all the slots are taken.

[QUOTE=XXL;2041129]
I saw many stunners but many of them showing no interest, probably pre-booked or busy in some capacity. This proved typical of Sharks as opposed to the other FKKs I was to visit on this tour (Paradise Stuttgart, World, Sakura). One looker I'd had my eyes on had totally blended into the sprawling dimly-lit surroundings when I tried to pin her down.
[/QUOTE]I don't understand how they would show no interest. Even when they have already booked an appointment, most girls are happy to meet new customers for slow (er) days, or for later when the appointment is either over or perhaps is a no-show. Did you actually try to talk to them?

[QUOTE=XXL;2041129]
Air-conditioning in the rooms would have been welcome, FKK World coming to mind in this respect.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree with you about the hot rooms, it's a known issue but unfortunately Sharks' management seems to have different priorities like revamping the garden, instead of installing small air conditioning units in the rooms.

Similar to the Dead Kennedys song "Too Drunk to Fuck," for me Sharks in the summer is "Too Hot to Fuck, " and I tend to avoid Sharks unless it's unusually cool and rainy.

Enjoy some good old punk music by clicking on this link: [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7TWLxCIgwE"]Dead Kennedys: Too Drunk to Fuck[/URL] 😎 🎵

[QUOTE=XXL;2041129]I agree with a previous poster about BBQ in FKKs. It has only downsides: long queues, smell of burnt meat around the pool, no fish in the menu, straightforward side-dishes like potatoes and rice replaced by nondescript "salads". Roasting old cow in the open air will not turn it into Angus anyway.

I saw many stunners but many of them showing no interest, probably pre-booked or busy in some capacity. This proved typical of Sharks as opposed to the other FKKs I was to visit on this tour (Paradise Stuttgart, World, Sakura). One looker I'd had my eyes on had totally blended into the sprawling dimly-lit surroundings when I tried to pin her down. She crossed my path again when it was too late, as I was escorting another girl to the room. Aargh!

I did 5 rooms, 3 Rumanians, 1 Slovaq, 1 Kenyan. Not only was the latter short and not overly curvaceous, in the room she made no attempt at any faking. She kept silent as a carp, coldly staring. Still she could do deep-throat (largely lost on me). This must be her core business area. The smell of her sweat had an arousing effect on my reptile brain, so in the end all turned out well.

Air-conditioning in the rooms would have been welcome, FKK World coming to mind in this respect.

Why was I never told Sharks had a 2nd parking lot hidden behind the bushes across the street? I drove all the way to the end of the main parking lot, only to have dangerously to drive back the whole length in reverse. They could at least appoint a valet to warn off drivers when all the slots are taken.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your great report I do share your opinion on many topics.

I don't give a shit about any food in FKK I eat in town in nice restaurant and bring a snack, I don't want food poisoning by those cheap BBQ.

For girls sharks has always lots hot ones I saw one last year romanian blonde natural tits a jewel, I love nastia a real gem, I like the slovak barbies on side of bar on high top, I did Janine not very active in room but love her body so destroyed her doggy. Etc always you can find some nice ones, so my question is you mentioned Paradise and Sakura are they as good as Sharks? World is awful been there, mainhattan is bad too, I like quantity & quality.

[QUOTE=XXL;2041129]I agree with a previous poster about BBQ in FKKs. It has only downsides: long queues, smell of burnt meat around the pool, no fish in the menu, straightforward side-dishes like potatoes and rice replaced by nondescript "salads". Roasting old cow in the open air will not turn it into Angus anyway.

I saw many stunners but many of them showing no interest, probably pre-booked or busy in some capacity. This proved typical of Sharks as opposed to the other FKKs I was to visit on this tour (Paradise Stuttgart, World, Sakura). One looker I'd had my eyes on had totally blended into the sprawling dimly-lit surroundings when I tried to pin her down. She crossed my path again when it was too late, as I was escorting another girl to the room. Aargh!

I did 5 rooms, 3 Rumanians, 1 Slovaq, 1 Kenyan. Not only was the latter short and not overly curvaceous, in the room she made no attempt at any faking. She kept silent as a carp, coldly staring. Still she could do deep-throat (largely lost on me). This must be her core business area..[/QUOTE]Where is this hidden parking lot? Can someone give direction?

Thanks.

I will be at Sharks all day Saturday 03.06, so if anyone else is visiting alone and would like a talk, just let me know.

[QUOTE=BoniFun;2041212]I will be at Sharks all day Saturday 03.06, so if anyone else is visiting alone and would like a talk, just let me know.[/QUOTE]I will lets meet up and exchange notes on the girls.

[QUOTE=TrueNature;2041186]... my question is you mentioned Paradise and Sakura are they as good as Sharks? World is awful been there, mainhattan is bad too, I like quantity & quality.[/QUOTE]Forget about Sakura. Paradise has worked for me at the times I've visited (Friday or Saturday early to late afternoon). Very late at night many girls seemed somewhat tired. I visited once on Sunday at 1pm and it was totally dead (2 or 3 girls). As far as sheer numbers are concerned, Paradise's LU in on a par with Golden Times' or Living Room's. The quality is not much inferior though it is difficult to compare because the girls at Paradise are stark naked while the girls at Golden Times (to me at least) appear more sexy because they use all sorts of lingerie. The question is, it it worth the effort coming all the way to Stuttgart for just one FKK? If you drive it's worth the detour. The motorway between Stuttgart and Frankfurt is relatively scenic (Taunus, Rhine Valley). If you can get a room at Holiday Inn Express it's an added bonus, especially if you like getting a bit drunk at the FKK.

I value variety, never visiting the same FKK two days in a row, but most importantly I drive via Stuttgart on my trips through Germany from and back to my starting point (Munich). By the same token, living in Germany (rather than flying to Germany for a short and long-awaited sex-holiday) changes one's priorities and one's whole attitude to the game.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2041197]Where is this hidden parking lot? Can someone give direction?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

You drive away from Shark's main parking lot and turn left. It's across the road 30 meters further down. There's a big billboard with "P - Shark's - Gaesteparkplatz", something of the kind. It's partially hidden by tree branches.

[QUOTE=TrueNature;2041186]Thanks for your great report I do share your opinion on many topics.

I don't give a shit about any food in FKK I eat in town in nice restaurant and bring a snack, I don't want food poisoning by those cheap BBQ.

For girls sharks has always lots hot ones I saw one last year romanian blonde natural tits a jewel, I love nastia a real gem, I like the slovak barbies on side of bar on high top, I did Janine not very active in room but love her body so destroyed her doggy. Etc always you can find some nice ones, so my question is you mentioned Paradise and Sakura are they as good as Sharks? World is awful been there, mainhattan is bad too, I like quantity & quality.[/QUOTE]I was a regular at Sakura and Paradise for many years, stop visiting those FKK in Q1 2017, too expensive for a poor LU. Never and never can be compare to Shark LU.

XXL, looks like I missed you on Thursday. I arrived around 5 pm. I was hoping for a nice and quiet Thursday but didn't realize Thursday was a Holiday in Germany. Though most of the girls were available and there were never really a wait for the rooms.

You can find the extra parking space for Sharks here: [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/place/49%C2%B053'24.0%22N+8%C2%B038'29.4%22E/@49.8900069,8.6409385,208m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d49.890006!4d8.641487[/URL]

[QUOTE=XXL;2041554]
You drive away from Shark's main parking lot and turn left. It's across the road 30 meters further down. There's a big billboard with "P - Shark's - Gaesteparkplatz", something of the kind. It's partially hidden by tree branches.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I've always been able to find something in the main lot or on the street nearby, but this is helpful to know where it is. I've always heard about it, but not reading german I'm always wary.

[QUOTE=XXL;2041554]Forget about Sakura. Paradise has worked for me at the times I've visited (Friday or Saturday early to late afternoon). Very late at night many girls seemed somewhat tired. I visited once on Sunday at 1pm and it was totally dead (2 or 3 girls). As far as sheer numbers are concerned, Paradise's LU in on a par with Golden Times' or Living Room's. The quality is not much inferior though it is difficult to compare because the girls at Paradise are stark naked while the girls at Golden Times (to me at least) appear more sexy because they use all sorts of lingerie. The question is, it it worth the effort coming all the way to Stuttgart for just one FKK? If you drive it's worth the detour. The motorway between Stuttgart and Frankfurt is relatively scenic (Taunus, Rhine Valley). If you can get a room at Holiday Inn Express it's an added bonus, especially if you like getting a bit drunk at the FKK.

I value variety, never visiting the same FKK two days in a row, but most importantly I drive via Stuttgart on my trips through Germany from and back to my starting point (Munich). By the same token, living in Germany (rather than flying to Germany for a short and long-awaited sex-holiday) changes one's priorities and one's whole attitude to the game.

You drive away from Shark's main parking lot and turn left. It's across the road 30 meters further down. There's a big billboard with "P - Shark's - Gaesteparkplatz", something of the kind. It's partially hidden by tree branches.[/QUOTE]Thanks XXL! Great to know, as I said previously: I drove Fra to Berlin for Artemis found 1 stunner and head back same day, I drove to Globe same story. So I guess yes I am happy in Fra Hessen between sharks & palace my 2 favourite. I hope good line up this week end with Nastia, Janine and new cute faces! I hope Tuesday is also with still some girls! I will do Saturday Sunday Tuesday Wednesday at sharks unless someone tells me better option on those days. I do after 11 pm palace so back in the city close to my hotel for last session.

Visited today only for 2 hours, 40 euros (have a meeting in Frankfurt), great LU never saw so many girls in the morning shift in any club. Looks like a lot of new girls are here. Except some group of Japanese guys very very quiet so very good for the mongers.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1941356]183 cm, blue eyes. A friend did her on Saturday and was quite enthusiastic.

HB.[/QUOTE]Hi HB,

She is extremely beautiful and a good provider.

Have you seen her around lately.

Thanks.

Dropped into Sharks on Friday 26th May just after mid-day while heading to Baden Baden for the weekend's horse racing. Kicked off proceedings with a tattooed Moldovan bottle blonde with cosmetically enhanced tits wearing some red lingerie calling herself Julie. Once in the room she up-sold me the oil massage treatment where she covered our torsos in the substance before wriggling away all over me like a slippery eel for 20 minutes; very erotic and highly enjoyable, then it was down to business for a two hole session. €100.00.

Nice lunch consisting of some excellent smoked salmon, scrambled egg and cheeses, a couple glasses of wine in the garden while soaking up the sunshine before round 2 with a dark willowy African calling herself Grace. Goodness me this girl was horny, a thirty minute work out with her and I was a spent force. She's a very talented operator.

Following a nice relaxing massage and a piece of chicken from the BBQ I was back on the road continuing my journey. Marvellous way to spend a summer afternoon.

Albanian Anja now located at Oase.

[QUOTE=Pentire;2041942] Kicked off proceedings with a tattooed Moldovan bottle blonde with cosmetically enhanced tits wearing some red lingerie calling herself Julie. [/QUOTE]Julie? I know brunette Julie with saggy tits and Salma Hayek like face. Two Julies?

[QUOTE=Pentire;2041942]Dropped into Sharks on Friday 26th May just after mid-day while heading to Baden Baden for the weekend's horse racing. Kicked off proceedings with a tattooed Moldovan bottle blonde with cosmetically enhanced tits wearing some red lingerie calling herself Julie. Once in the room she up-sold me the oil massage treatment where she covered our torsos in the substance before wriggling away all over me like a slippery eel for 20 minutes; very erotic and highly enjoyable, then it was down to business for a two hole session. 100.00.

Nice lunch consisting of some excellent smoked salmon, scrambled egg and cheeses, a couple glasses of wine in the garden while soaking up the sunshine before round 2 with a dark willowy African calling herself Grace. Goodness me this girl was horny, a thirty minute work out with her and I was a spent force. She's a very talented operator.

Following a nice relaxing massage and a piece of chicken from the BBQ I was back on the road continuing my journey. Marvellous way to spend a summer afternoon.[/QUOTE]Which two holes?

[QUOTE=SkyMaster;2041917]Hi HB,

She is extremely beautiful and a good provider.

Have you seen her around lately.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Didn't see her on my last visits.

HB.

[QUOTE=Checkers1;2042002]Albanian Anja now located at Oase.[/QUOTE]One more pretty girl leaving Sharks, after Kate, Karin, Ilka, Aurelia, Megan, Nastya with quite same look than Anja. Also Milana. Srb.

Except Dina and even Evita is a superstar but average face for me, maybe prettier when smiling after cumming? Who are Sharks beauties now?

Brenda or Rebeka or Alice Marylin or Janine but average faces, Madalina or Mandy are cute.

At least, if Claudia. Ro ex LR, ex 6 ens really moved there and Anja now, after foods, Oase casting will improve. Would be great to get Anja in the garden, before she move again.

As a Sharks fan, I know I will continue to have a good time there. But I must say that my last few visits are not the same. My favorite girls are no longer there. Helli probably left for good. And now, two of my favorite girls have decided to leave the business. I understand that girls come and go but I felt strange in the club not seeing them or knowing that they have moved on to better things. Maybe I have been to Sharks for too long and too many times.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2042371]As a Sharks fan, I know I will continue to have a good time there. But I must say that my last few visits are not the same. My favorite girls are no longer there. Helli probably left for good. And now, two of my favorite girls have decided to leave the business. I understand that girls come and go but I felt strange in the club not seeing them or knowing that they have moved on to better things. Maybe I have been to Sharks for too long and too many times.[/QUOTE]When prettiest girls leave and you follow them, or they follow your advices for free, just because you like them, and you keep on meeting them elsewhere, then they speak about Sharks becoming business and also some regulars at Sharks, when they didn't dare when were working there, because only Romanian WGs versus German guys.

I m just proud how so many girls trust the French devil and how they still welcome me elsewhere.

Just facts and problems at Sharks. A pity because a good club for services, but casting is not what it was. Sharks was the best casting on 2015.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2042371]As a Sharks fan, I know I will continue to have a good time there. But I must say that my last few visits are not the same. My favorite girls are no longer there. Helli probably left for good. And now, two of my favorite girls have decided to leave the business. I understand that girls come and go but I felt strange in the club not seeing them or knowing that they have moved on to better things. Maybe I have been to Sharks for too long and too many times.[/QUOTE]I know the feeling exactly. I used to go all the time to Palace when I lived nearby and after a few faves left it kind of felt weird for a while as if you were missing something. But the good news is you soon find a few more regulars to tide you over.

I haven't been to Sharks for about a year now (not out of choice but I haven't had a chance to go back to Germany) and I feel 'sad' reading reports on here on X, why, Z girls having left. I hope this trend isn't accelerated after July 1st. Because as we know girls will go where they can make the most money.

Can your senior mongers give some description of how they look like. I have been following forum for weeks but could not collect much useful things other than name / nationality. Thanks in advance.

Name / Nationality / hair color / height bare foot / age / notes.

Mandy / De. /.

Sandra / De. /.

Nicolette / Hu. /.

Evita / /.

Dina / Hu. / blond? / named queen of FKK.

Tessa / De. / brown / 165 cm /20/ big tatto on shoulder.

Steffi / ? / ?

[QUOTE=SexInCity;2042422]Can your senior mongers give some description of how they look like. I have been following forum for weeks but could not collect much useful things other than name / nationality. Thanks in advance.

Name / Nationality / hair color / height bare foot / age / notes.

Mandy / De.

Sandra / De.

Nicolette / Hu.

Evita /

Dina / Hu. / blond? / named queen of FKK.

Tessa / De. / brown / 165 cm /20/ big tatto on shoulder.

Steffi / ? / ?[/QUOTE]Your eyes should talk to your brain to be attracted.

They have the same songs on repeat. Kinda hilarious, there's only about eight songs, but a significant portion hails from the mid-1990's-- "Zombie" by The Cranberries. "Two Princes" by The Spin Doctors. I had to wonder if management was sharp enough to recognize that many of their customers are rapidly approaching middle age, and to acknowledge their customers' glory days in their playlist.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2042431]Your eyes should talk to your brain to be attracted.[/QUOTE]A really wise statement!

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2042371]As a Sharks fan, I know I will continue to have a good time there. But I must say that my last few visits are not the same. My favorite girls are no longer there. Helli probably left for good. And now, two of my favorite girls have decided to leave the business. I understand that girls come and go but I felt strange in the club not seeing them or knowing that they have moved on to better things. Maybe I have been to Sharks for too long and too many times.[/QUOTE]This is the life in each club you have girls coming and leaving, and some are quitting the job definitively. Was at Sh.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2042371]As a Sharks fan, I know I will continue to have a good time there. But I must say that my last few visits are not the same. My favorite girls are no longer there. Helli probably left for good. And now, two of my favorite girls have decided to leave the business. I understand that girls come and go but I felt strange in the club not seeing them or knowing that they have moved on to better things. Maybe I have been to Sharks for too long and too many times.[/QUOTE]This is the life in each club you have girls coming and leaving, and some are quitting the job definitively. Was at Shark and Tuesday and they have most probably the largest LU of any FKK today.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2042396]When prettiest girls leave and you follow them, or they follow your advices for free, just because you like them, and you keep on meeting them elsewhere, then they speak about Sharks becoming business and also some regulars at Sharks, when they didn't dare when were working there, because only Romanian WGs versus German guys.

I m just proud how so many girls trust the French devil and how they still welcome me elsewhere.

Just facts and problems at Sharks. A pity because a good club for services, but casting is not anymore what it was. Sharks was the best casting on 2015.[/QUOTE]Even still best casting until Easter 2016, when Karin, Rena, Kate, Aurelia left. Other few great girls stayed until Summer, but Autumn 2016 fell down for casting.

A perfect animated rendition of what is going on in the summertime in FKK-Clubs! For best quality, watch in 4 k and full screen!

PARADISE. A contemporary interpretation of The Garden of Earthly Delights.

[URL]https://vimeo.com/191632804[/URL]

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2042561]An perfect animated rendition of what is going on in the summertime in FKK-Clubs! For best quality, watch in 4 k and full screen!

PARADISE. A contemporary interpretation of The Garden of Earthly Delights.

[URL]https://vimeo.com/191632804[/URL][/QUOTE]Who is in the middle? Not size for Asians specialists.

Sharks, Oase and World have beautiful gardens, but no more sexy Eve in Eden.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2042401]I know the feeling exactly. I used to go all the time to Palace when I lived nearby and after a few faves left it kind of felt weird for a while as if you were missing something. But the good news is you soon find a few more regulars to tide you over.

I haven't been to Sharks for about a year now (not out of choice but I haven't had a chance to go back to Germany) and I feel 'sad' reading reports on here on X, why, Z girls having left. I hope this trend isn't accelerated after July 1st. Because as we know girls will go where they can make the most money.[/QUOTE]Why is it thought possible that girls will not return after July 1st? Is it because there will be a possible exodus of guys? I don't foresee that. There are many mongering destinations in the world where BBBJ is not available or difficult to get and hobbyists still visit there in their numbers. I, for one, have visited such places. I am old enough to remember the days when BBFS was the norm, then came AIDS and all that changed. Now everyone has adjusted to CFS to the extent that it is now considered tasteless to mention BBFS on this board. In the days when BBFS was the norm I used to avoid girls requesting condom use and actually had difficulty climaxing with a raincoat, and I was in my 20's. What can I say I love BBBJ but cannot visit the Philippines and Thailand all the time!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2042606]Why is it thought possible that girls will not return after July 1st? Is it because there will be a possible exodus of guys? I don't foresee that. There are many mongering destinations in the world where BBBJ is not available or difficult to get and hobbyists still visit there in their numbers. [/QUOTE]As I see it there are two issue's to the new law. The most obvious is the restriction of services that everyone prefers. The other is the registration as a sex worker. In my opinion its the registration that will cause many girls to go elsewhere. I think the girls that are setup in Germany (ie living in a nice apartment etc) will deal with the new regulations and stay on since she's got a nice place to live. A girl living in a tiny one room motel (and we've all seen just how small some of those are) would be more likely to go on holiday and then look elsewhere for 'employment' ie renting out her body. When the money runs out they might return and deal with the new law if nothing else can be found.

As to the exodus of guys, you can count me in that number. I like seeing fresh faces with nice young bodies. Buddy of mine always said 'there's a new girl turning 18 around the corner'. Unlikely you'll be seeing many of those in Germany in the coming years. Clubs will be full of hardened pro's who have been on their backs for far too long.

As to the clubs, wonder if this will bring about the closing of some of the clubs that are financially strapped?

[QUOTE=Breadman;2042760]I think the girls that are setup in Germany (ie living in a nice apartment etc) will deal with the new regulations and stay on since she's got a nice place to live. A girl living in a tiny one room motel (and we've all seen just how small some of those are) would be more likely to go on holiday and then look elsewhere for 'employment' ie renting out her body. [/QUOTE]My guess is it would be the other way round.

HB.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2042606]There are many mongering destinations in the world where BBBJ is not available or difficult to get and hobbyists still visit there in their numbers. I, for one, have visited such places.[/QUOTE]Really, where? I've mongered in destinations where BBBJ was difficult to get. However, I was either at the destination for business. Or it was a short journey (under 2 hour car ride) from where I was staying. Most people could probably stay closer to home, if they wanted limited services.

Since everyone is talking about the new law happening this July 1st, I just want to claim my opinion. Got to say it will be a big turn off for me that girl put out a condom and put it on my penis and start to perform CBJ after we enter the room. Just enjoy the old days even last week that girls just simply perform BBBJ after you let them know how long you want to stay in the room with them, sometimes girls will start to do their job after they put the sheet on the bed, I just standing there and receiving the pleasure. That is why I prefer room with mirrors so I could see the whole action and I got more and more turned on. So after July 1st, girls need to put condom on my semi hard penis if I am really attracted to girls' physically appearance. Maybe I don't get hard at all so it will be hard for girls to put the condom on. Sometimes I really enjoy some girls' BJ skills and what is why I go to room with them. I think this new law will affect those girls who are not physically attractive but get great BJ skills. Since guys could not feel that much of big difference between ok and great BJ with the condoms on as long as girls do not hurt their customers with their teeth.

Second, one thing I don't know is that how well this new law will be enforced. Will the police pretend to be a customer walk into clubs and random choose some girls and ask them if they still provide BBBJ and pay those girls with the money from tax payers? If this is true I will sacrifice anything to become a police in Germany. Just kidding. I think some girls will still do BBBJ to their regular customers since they already know each other and know they are not cpos. Will all the clubs be forced to put hidden camera in all the rooms so every single action will be observed by the police officers? I heard that prostitution in Thailand is not legal, when I heard that I thought he was kidding, Thailand is considering one of the biggest sex tourism in the world but police is just not enforcing the law.

Some guys I have met in the clubs had claimed that they would leave after this new law come out, so this means less business for girls, maybe this is a good thing for guys. Because many people complained many times that there are too many average girls in the club, we all know that only girls are good at what they are doing could survive, so this probably will improve the line up since average girls could not survive and they have to leave, girls have to give good service to customers because they know time has changed it is not like old days that sharks attracts many guys every day, girls have that mind set they could scam or trick some of customers like all the sex workers in RSL in amsterdam and they need to know if they do not work hard enough they will not make any money or even lose money.

People probably will go to some of the clubs in Netherland like Yingyang because nothing will change over there. If this new law really becomes a big issue I am willing to go to Netherland explore more fun.

I am going to Shark in 2 weeks. Is Nastya / Nastia still working there?

Are there any Croatian girls in the club? Nationality is usually of no interest to me, but I have my reasons! If so, I would appreciate names and a few details.

I'm visiting later this month after a long time away from the clubs.

[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2042816]Since everyone is talking about the new law happening this July 1st, I just want to claim my opinion. Got to say it will be a big turn off for me that girl put out a condom and put it on my penis and start to perform CBJ after we enter the room. Just enjoy the old days even last week that girls just simply perform BBBJ after you let them know how long you want to stay in the room with them, sometimes girls will start to do their job after they put the sheet on the bed, I just standing there and receiving the pleasure. That is why I prefer room with mirrors so I could see the whole action and I got more and more turned on. So after July 1st, girls need to put condom on my semi hard penis if I am really attracted to girls' physically appearance. Maybe I don't get hard at all so it will be hard for girls to put the condom on. Sometimes I really enjoy some girls' BJ skills and what is why I go to room with them. I think this new law will affect those girls who are not physically attractive but get great BJ skills. Since guys could not feel that much of big difference between ok and great BJ with the condoms on as long as girls do not hurt their customers with their teeth.[/QUOTE]Seems to me you really prefer to be tortured by your own thoughts more than enjoying any blow job.

[QUOTE=Frozty;2042866]Are there any Croatian girls in the club? Nationality is usually of no interest to me, but I have my reasons! If so, I would appreciate names and a few details.

I'm visiting later this month after a long time away from the clubs.[/QUOTE]Pamela said to be Croatian. Milana Serbian. I'm sure many Romanians can swear to be from Split or Krk, as I say coming from planet Mars. For sure with a Croatian you can remind Hadjuk golden years with Surjak, Zungul, Susic, European Brazilians.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2042780]Really, where? I've mongered in destinations where BBBJ was difficult to get. However, I was either at the destination for business. Or it was a short journey (under 2 hour car ride) from where I was staying. Most people could probably stay closer to home, if they wanted limited services.[/QUOTE]I find it best to throw the question back at you. Where, apart from the Philippines and Thailand, is BBBJ the norm as it is in FKKs today?

I should rephrase the question. Where, outside of Europe, the Philippines and Thailand, is BBBJ the norm as it is in FKKs today?

[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2042816]Second, one thing I don't know is that how well this new law will be enforced. Will the police pretend to be a customer walk into clubs and random choose some girls and ask them if they still provide BBBJ and pay those girls with the money from tax payers? [/QUOTE]Doesn't make any sense as it is not illegal (or better fined) to offer BB (BJ), it is illegal (or fined) to ask for it. So it's they guys who will be punished if caught doing BBBJ. Therefore police would have to send female officers acting as prostitutes. Will not happen.

HB.

[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2042816]Since everyone is talking about the new law happening this July 1st, I just want to claim my opinion. Got to say it will be a big turn off for me that girl put out a condom and put it on my penis and start to perform CBJ after we enter the room.[/QUOTE]Good points in your post. In my opinion the new law needs to be challenged at a high level. I can't say for sure that the issue of BBBJ was brought up with Chancellor Merkel at the G7 summit on May 26. However, the American President is known for his "directness," and I couldn't help but notice that the so-called Leader of the Free World had kind of a disgusted WTF look on her face coming out of the meeting.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2042954]I should rephrase the question. Where, outside of Europe, the Philippines and Thailand, is BBBJ the norm as it is in FKKs today?[/QUOTE]Canada. In Toronto and Montreal, CBJ is unheard of in Canada with the reputable agencies and massage places.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2042954]I should rephrase the question. Where, outside of Europe, the Philippines and Thailand, is BBBJ the norm as it is in FKKs today?[/QUOTE]I think mostly everywhere with escorts.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2042954]I should rephrase the question. Where, outside of Europe, the Philippines and Thailand, is BBBJ the norm as it is in FKKs today?[/QUOTE]I have been to Brazil two years ago, BBBJ is standard. That time you could spend 70 USD with a girl in the room for one hour in Sao Paulo price was a little bit higher in Rio like 85 dollars since Brazilian economy is going down and value of their local currency is decreasing so it will be even cheaper to go to Brazil now.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2042954]I should rephrase the question. Where, outside of Europe, the Philippines and Thailand, is BBBJ the norm as it is in FKKs today?[/QUOTE]I don't know of any strip club or escort agency that it isn't.

The next afternoon, I made my way to Darmstadt by train and stayed at IBIS which is a 10 minute walk from the station. A cab to Sharks cost around E11 and it must have been 5 pm by the time I got there with entry costing E65. I stayed until about 2 am and there must have been around 80-90 girls throughout the night. Quality was also generally good and were some difficult choices to be made with a lot of new faces since my last visit in Dec 2016.

4. Dilek and Vana: I was sorely tempted by a gorgeous, coffee coloured, black stocking clad Romanian with the most amazing natural breasts called Brenda. I'm pretty certain she used to call herself Brandy and I had her in March 2016 and I recalled the service was decent to good so was up for a repeat. However, I was keen on a threesome, ideally with Dilek who is another bra buster but Brenda told me she doesn't do threesomes. Fair enough, so decided to give her a pass which was a shame in some ways as there aren't many girls like her. Also, felt she could make a lot more money if she was more open and engaging whereas she seemed fairly morbid and static and I didn't see a single guy take her whereas far less attractive girls were doing a good trade.

On to Dilek, I first had her in 2014 and also last year. She is petite, attractive, Turkish looking with huge knockers and gives good service. She is a day shift girl and finishes at 8 pm. I didn't like the look of her friends so told her I would line up another girl for a threesome. Eventually, I chose Vana who is slim, brunette, mid 20's, small tits, and a natural tan. She was wearing half stockings in a fishnet style. She has a very different look to most FKK hookers, seemed friendly and claims to be Greek.

It is fair to say I had a fantastic hour and it was my best session of the four days. Dilek was good but Vana was exceptional. So much so that I would put her in my Top 10 of FKK girls. Was lots of DFK and ball licking from her. Alternated with lots of blow jobs for the first 30 minutes with me either lying down or standing up with both of them on their knees and then moved on to eating them both out and doing them both in doggy ending up with Vana. A truly magical girl. E200.

5. Ester and Evelina: I was approached by a gorgeous girl who claimed to know me. It was only when she said I took her as part of a three girl session that I realised it was Ester. I didn't recognise her as she's changed her hair from red to blondish. I thought she looked better as a redhead but is still very tasty. I meant to take her on both my last visits to Sharks but got sidetracked so this time made sure I had her. She provides decent to good service but I do fancy her rotten as she has a lovely, ripe body and is facially very attractive. She seemed quite miserable but perked up when I later tapped her shoulder and said I wanted to go for an hour. Decided to double up with one of her friends called Evelina who is an attractive, slim girl with brown hair, nice figure but not in Ester's league.

Was a good session with Ester taking the lead. Mainly consisted of the girls taking turns sucking me off whilst the other presented her ripe tits for me to devour and then progressed to me eating them out either with them sat on my face or with Ester also in a 69 position whilst the other carried on blowing me. They also weren't shy about licking one side each of my cock at the same time which was a highlight. I had planned on shagging them both but I was in such a blissful state that I allowed them to continue and eventually the pace quickened and I could feel myself cumming. Ester's face lit up when I sad I wanted to cum in her mouth. A good session though with hindsight I would have equally enjoyed a one on one with Ester. It can be one of the pitfalls of a threesome when you are so much keener on one of the girls than the other that the lesser girl gets overlooked and can be a spare part though I should stress Evelina was perfectly fine in her own right. E250.

6. Vana: After her earlier performance there was no question I was going to repeat with Vana. One of my FKK regrets is not spending more time with the real superstars I have encountered (especially blonde Croatian Pamela from Sharks in 2015) so when I was ready to play again and Vana was available (she seemed busy so must have a following) whisked her to a room. Beforehand I had a massage for an hour. Unfortunately Sissi no longer seems to be around as I rated her massages as the best I've ever had. The massuese was a Puerto Rican MILF with a decent pair and a ginormous backside. As well as relaxing, I also found the massage erotic.

Back to Vana, another great session, DFK, and had her suck me off in various positions, me standing up, sitting down on a chair whilst she was on her knees before settling on lying down. Did her doggy for a while before going back to a blowie culminating in CIM. Was a frantic session that you sometimes have when you really want to get stuck into a girl. I hope she'll be around if / when I return. E100.

Aside from the aforementioned girls, I also saw the following "exes":

Jessica: Tall brunette with glasses and big enhanced tits.

Luisa: Another brunette who hangs out with Jessica and who I had as a part of a 4 girl orgy in 2014.

Hannah: Nice looking brunette who I had with Jessica in 2015. I may try her again at some point.

Sonya: Cute young blonde, who I read on ISG engaged in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url] and full on lezzie with one of her mates but I was feeling frisky rather than filthy.

Overall, it was a fantastic night at Sharks which rarely fails to deliver. It was the best night of the 4 clubs I visited and thought it had the best line-up both in terms of quality and quantity.

[QUOTE=SexInCity;2042422]Can your senior mongers give some description of how they look like. I have been following forum for weeks but could not collect much useful things other than name / nationality. Thanks in advance.

Name / Nationality / hair color / height bare foot / age / notes.

Mandy / De. /.

Sandra / De. /.

Nicolette / Hu. /.

Evita / /.

Dina / Hu. / blond? / named queen of FKK.

Tessa / De. / brown / 165 cm /20/ big tatto on shoulder.

Steffi / ? / ?[/QUOTE]I would also find this very helpful.

Visiting Sharks in a couple of weeks, really looking forward to it. I have read this forum for some months, and have gotten tons of tips. Thank you to all contributors.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2042954]I should rephrase the question. Where, outside of Europe, the Philippines and Thailand, is BBBJ the norm as it is in FKKs today?[/QUOTE]I don't know where BBBJ is standard or not. You used the phrase "mongering destinations". Maybe we define this phrase differently.

To me, this phrase only describes a few places: Germany, Thailand, Brazil. Simply these are places where sex tourists from other continents plan their vacations. If I were to peruse the Tijuana or Montreal threads, how many of the regular posters live outside of North America? I suspect a majority of the posters (probably the guy below me) in the German FKK thread do not reside in Europe.

Mongering probably happens in every city in the world, but I wouldn't call all of them mongering destinations. The ones that are truly mongering destinations, BBBJ should be easy to find and relatively cheap. Thats why these places are "Mecca-like", and people from all corners of the world make pilgrimages there.

Can anyone say if it is OK for me to go to Sharks from the airport? I will have 1 suitcase and hotel check in isn't until 3 pm and my flight lands at 0930.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2043168]Can anyone say if it is OK for me to go to Sharks from the airport? I will have 1 suitcase and hotel check in isn't until 3 pm and my flight lands at 0930.[/QUOTE]They'll store your luggage for you. But you can avoid all of that by just renting a small car and keeping your luggage in it. The car pays for itself, especially for trips longer than 2 days.

Just a quick report from today's visit. Three very different sessions.

1. Winnie, big Jamaican girl: I wanted to fuck a big black girl since I have not done so in quite a while, but she was god awful. No DFK and instead of BBBJ she insisted on CBJ. Obvious fake and over exaggerated moans, this was my worst experience at any club in Germany.

2. Verruca (I think? Her name started with V. Dark skinned Bulgarian). This girl was horny as fuck and was in absolute insistent on going to the room (second time she has done so in my two visits). She put my fingers against her pussy while she fingered her own ass and proceeded to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] my face with her pussy. Extremely energetic and dominant, pushing me around in bed. A definite turn on.

3. Elisa, Berlin, skinny German with eyes resembling Jennifer Lawrence: So cute, fun to talk to. I had to wait two hours between Winnie and Veruca because she said she had an appointment. Turns out she starts blowing some guy in front of the jacuzzi I was in. I don't see her and think that she left and then she finds me outdoor later and said I will be her last client before she drives to Berlin for the Monday holiday. Very sweet overall, real blowjob and her really red face showing sheer enjoyment during sex. This is a girl who loves her job.

So from the worst session with Winnie, two of the best sessions with Verruca and Elisa.

[QUOTE=WestWood168;2042860]I am going to Shark in 2 weeks. Is Nastya / Nastia still working there?[/QUOTE]Not sure you will find her at the moment.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2042954]I should rephrase the question. Where, outside of Europe, the Philippines and Thailand, is BBBJ the norm as it is in FKKs today?[/QUOTE]In the terma system in Brazil BBBJ and really enthusiastic women are the norm. A terma is a sauna like an FKK but worse in quality IMO: no free food, more expensive than FKK, club employees ask for tips a and are a lot rider, and girls wear clothes If you want BBBJ and excellent sex, Brazil is good, but it is no German FKK.

What a difference a year makes! Although the talent at Sharks was more or less the same as I remember that of last summer the dames are much less tolerant of ½ HR, 50 euro sessions. Many providers especially the hotter ones told me that 50 e ½ HR sessions are FS and BJ only. DATY was according to some only in 1 HR sessions and for others was 50 e more in ½ HR, not to speak of DFK which apparently for some was not available at all. I was having none of it. Fortunately, unlike my one visit to Oase last year there was a multitude of girls and I was certain that I would find the ½ HR 50 e girls who offered DATY and if lucky DFK as well. Needless to say there were indeed girls who offered ½ HR sessions to my liking. The names I remember are petite thin Paulina from Bulgaria, Alisha from Romania and Aisha who says she was from Croatia (can anyone confirm that she is actually from Croatia? There were more whose names I can recall but have forgotten their respective countries. I finally settled for Ria from Romania who made it clear from the outset that DFK was not part of the package. She was cute and I went with her and a good time was had by all. For my next session I had to have DFK which is my next best aphrodisiac after pharmaceuticals. Guys, I don't know about you but I found DFK really hard to get from a reasonably attractive provider in a ½ HR session. I had to use my experience to screen out those who said DFK was on the menu but my spidey sense told me it would not be worth it. I finally settled upon Kathy from Poland as I had to have DFK for a viable second session and she did not disappoint. She did attempt to ration DFK but my strategy was to give attention to another part of her anatomy when she did so and after a short while return to DFK. Also her BBBJ was excellent resulting in a hard on which was followed by the soldiers marching home before time. I'll be in Europe all summer and I can see that sooner or later I will have to fork out more money per session. I plan, however, to depart Germany by June 30 and am considering other countries within the region to pursue my hobby.

We need to be positive when looking at the gouging. More hot girls will come once they get wind of 150 euro for 30 minutes!

The clubs are going to need to get a grip on this before all their clients leave (to NRW or other destinations around the world). They need not be afraid of firing girls like GT did.

Agree with BB here. And another problem is when we write names here, some girls read it and almost force some girls to start upselling more.

How about that price hike to 60 e now to calm down girls annoyed at inflation during 10 years past? The girls can take it and stop their BS, or they can leave if the BS goes on? Clueless young girls without life experience who has no idea about pr. I don't know how many times I need to point out the importance of integrity in here. Integrity, integrity, integrity. Also known as first step in crisis management.

But to BB: Palace just did do a cleanup. Although very politely and smart regarding it... if they cleaned up the right girls is a different question. Club standing is still higher than objectivity perhaps...

About attracting more hot girls: there are 2 hot apartment girls where I live (9s). One got here almost a year ago, and the other one 2-3 months ago. Rom and moldavian/ukrainian... both told me they knew about fkk's well, but felt the price was a bit too low with 50e. So they risk working here instead... one has worked at some place very near switzerland in germany (pic is still up on website). And she got 80 a session there. But club was a bit slow, so more business here... no upselling from her. The other girl upsells, so she is to be avoided... yet I think at a top fkk she'd get probably 30-40% more business... especially if fkk's manages to get their integrity back...

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2043373]We need to be positive when looking at the gouging. More hot girls will come once they get wind of 150 euro for 30 minutes!

The clubs are going to need to get a grip on this before all their clients leave (to NRW or other destinations around the world). They need not be afraid of firing girls like GT did.[/QUOTE]I think you may be seeing things from your "hardcore monger" goggles. Majority of men are just recreational mongers.

Excluding men who travel for business, probably 99.99% of mongers don't travel more than 200 km from their home for P6, especially if the P6 options in their local area are comparable quality and price. I mean, I don't even think I've ever met a guy from Spain in the FKKs. Thats a one hour plane ride. If the prices were to triple like you suggest, we might see mongers from other countries stay at home just like the Spanish mongers do.

If you talk to some of the local German or Dutch mongers (especially older gents), optiks is not even a consideration for them. They will say to me, "I know she's not much to look at, but. ". These men don't drive to three clubs a day looking for the hottest 19 year old. They will just settle for a WG they consider a "6" optik. If you were to ask many local men who attend Sharks, many will just answer that Sharks is the only club they really attend.

If you look at the figures of how many WGs are supposedly in DE, we start to realize that FKK girls only represent a small percentage. So their pricing needs to be competitive with the other options in the surrounding area. Even high-end WGs are affected by the prices of German P6 scene. It seems like porn star escorts stopped coming to DE since about 2014. In 2011-2012, they would be 250-300 EUR per hour via an agency. These porn stars would be booked solid, if they did a one week tour every year. But once they started doing tours more frequently, men got bored. Once a man lived out their fantasy of fucking a porn star once or twice, they got it out of their system, and reverted to cheaper options. So an asking price of 250 EUR per hour was not sustainable in the long term. In that sense, you are correct, because now these porn stars only tour Dubai, London, Brussels, Paris. But how many WGs can command porn star rates?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2043462]because now these porn stars only tour Dubai, London, Brussels, Paris. But how many WGs can command porn star rates?[/QUOTE]And budapest because many euro pornstars are hungarian. And there you get them cheaper than 250. Still the idea of fucking a pornstar probably comes from the fact that you have seen them on camera... I did one once, but for just 100e. Guess she was a few years past her prime. So the pornstar term is too ambigous... But your point is good. The travelling cost is a major factor, and legal systems driving prices up where it gets riskier. But local mafia also taxes the girls. Read news stories of that a few times. And it happens in most if not all cities where girls work from apartments...

[QUOTE=Pv118;2043200]In the terma system in Brazil BBBJ and really enthusiastic women are the norm. If you want BBBJ and excellent sex, Brazil is good.[/QUOTE]And this is exactly why I have it number one and keep going back again and again! That, and oh, the high rate of anal sex (with no of very little upselling for that). You left that part out haha!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2043467]Still the idea of fucking a porn star probably comes from the fact that you have seen them on camera... I did one once, but for just 100e.[/QUOTE]I've never done a girl who I knew for sure was doing or had done porn. But I do know this. I have been with plenty whose performance was so damn good that I believe they "ought to be in pictures"! Hahaha! Whether they did porn or not, they sure the hell gave me the "porn star experience"!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2yX1dpAECc[/URL]

I wrote 3 pretty large report on Oase, so here's my report on Sharks now. I decided that Sharks and Oase were the two FKKs to check out due to the sheer volume of traffic on ISG regarding these two forums. I sessioned with 3 girls there, but since I was leaving the next morning and still wanted to check out the RLD, I only wanted to session with 2 girls at Sharks. I took the Train to Darmstadt, and then took a taxi to Sharks, unfortunately, there was both traffic and the road was shut off due to construction, so it cost me about 17 e. I go in, and it's much less high pressure like there is in Oase. Oase is a bit confusing to navigate since there's so much going on right at the entrance and it's not easy to figure things out especially if someone doesn't tour it for you. At sharks, it's much more easier, everything is out in the open, although it might take you a little bit to figure things out, but the shower area is right before the bar / lounge area. I came on a Tuesday and after showing, I head into the lounge area, where pretty much all of the girls are on display, with some in the back pool areas. I would say the amount of girls was decent, but the quality wasn't as great as at Oase. However, the distinct advantage is that the service here is much better.

I go out to the pool and chill out for a bit, but no one was there, and it was a bit chilly. A girl and her friend was sitting outside and called me over, which I declined.

I then head indoors, and the girl from outside immediately approaches me. Her name is Melanie and she's a 24 year old Romanian with big glasses. She told me that her name is the same as the US president's wife, but I informed her that it's MelanIA, not MelanIE. She didn't care and started acting a little bitchy because of it. Anyways, she sweet talks me for a bit, but I told her that I would be interested maybe later, I wanted to check out the place and girls for a little bit.

I get approached by several women for awhile.

1. Jessica (Moldavian, can speak Romanian): She's brunette, with an under bite, wears thick black glasses, black hair, and big fake tits and has been working at Sharks for 3+ years. She was super enthusiastic and in love with me. She kept sitting next to me, and chit chatted. If was were attracted to her, I would have sessioned as her attitude was fantastic, and her body was delicious.

I get approached by 3-4 other Romanians, 2 Ukrainians, 1 Spaniard, and a handful of other girls, but I turned them all down. And at this point, all of the girls at the place start to take notice. I think they believe that I'm just a cheapskate Charlie and not really there to be with any girls. But it's really that I have really high standards, and want to make sure there's good chemistry between the girl and I. I experienced the same thing at Oase, but it's less pressured and it wasn't back to back rejections, the girls slowly made their way to me to get rejected.

2. Adria (half Italian half German). This girl was probably one of the hottest in the entire place, and I noticed her pretty often. I was intent on sessioning with her first because of how exotic she looked. But when I went to talk to her, she was a total *****. I asked her where she was from, and she said: "half Italy, half Germany" and I made a joke about how she was born in both places? But she immediately got offended and bitchy. She explained how her mom is Italian and her father is German, but she's born and raised in Germany all of her life. It would have been perfect to have another German girl. But the conversation got awkward, tense, and intense. She kept asking me if I want to go with her to the room but I pointed out to her how she was being mean to me. After some awkward long pause, I wished her a good night. But for the rest of my time there, when I went to the bar to get water, she kept grabbing the seat right next to me, making the experience even more awkward. Honestly, if she wasn't such a *****, she could probably make a killing at the place. She has that "look", but she thinks she's a princess, even in this industry, so she expects the guys to come to her and do as she pleases. She needs to get off of her high horse.

I see Melanie walk back in, and I'm already spent too much time fucking off. I go up to her and told her that I've been waiting for her, she was putting on her makeup, so I figured she just sessioned with someone. We chit chat for a bit and decided to head to a room.

We agree to the terms, 30 minutes, BBBJ, CIM and she will throw in kissing and DATY because it's a 100 e session (even though I believe these things should be standard). I really like her personality, she's talkative and honest. We start the session with DFK. She then begins with a BBBJ, long and deep movements. When I ask her for 69, she tells me to be careful because of my little bit of facial hair on my chin. I eat her sweet young pussy and tongue fucked it, and it was delicious, and amazing while she was slobbing on my cock. I couldn't resist her asshole either, so I ate that as well, but she was caught off guard and jumped because of it, but didn't want me to continue.

We put on the cover and then she shows me her freshly shaved pussy. I eat it some more. I work her tits and nipples. And then she gets on top and rides me. The funny thing is, she doesn't make any noise, and I ask her about it. She also points out that I'm not making noise (I never do until near the end). She tells me she doesn't like faking it because it's too artificial. I flip her over for mish, and start to pound her, and now she's making noise. I DFK her some more. I flip her over for some doggy, but she has no ass to speak off, there's a little bit of meat in the middle, but that's it, and it's hardly grabbable. I then flip her back for some more mish, and I'm ready to explode, and tell her to get ready, but I want to get as close to cumming as possible through fucking. She offers to get me closer with her BBBJ instead but I turn her down. She tells me if I don't explode in her mouth, I still have to pay for CIM. So I fuck her for a little bit more, but not willing to take the risk, I let her bring me to completion. I get off of her, and take the cover off. I stand on the bed and sit back on the headboard of the bed to support me up when I cum. She BBBJs me fantastically, but her hair was getting in her way and asked me to hold it. While holding her hair, I start to skull'fuck her while she deep throats me. I ask her if she's ready for my cum because I'm about to explode in it. I blast a powerful first shots into her mouth, but they were full loud, and her tiny little mouth couldn't hold it and she has to spit the entire mouthful out onto the bed, but she quickly prepared her mouth for the rest, which she takes into her mouth. After I finish unloading all of my juices into her mouth, she spits it on the bed.

She was amazed at how much I came. I apologized for having so much cum in her mouth and she's the reason why I came so much and so hard. She told me how intense I became when I was holding her hair and head. She's a really good girl, and gave amazing service. I had a really fun and good conversation with her as well. I'm glad she's the first girl I sessioned with. I think the service at Sharks is much better than Oase, there's a lot less upselling here. I have one more report for Sharks, so standby for that upcoming report. Until then, Happy mongering fellas!

I've had a dozen girls or so of whom I know they've starred some Pornoprosa movies. Was it any better? Not really.

HB.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2043366]What a difference a year makes! Although the talent at Sharks was more or less the same as I remember that of last summer the dames are much less tolerant of HR, 50 euro sessions. Many providers especially the hotter ones told me that 50 e HR sessions are FS and BJ only. DATY was according to some only in 1 HR sessions and for others was 50 e more in HR, not to speak of DFK which apparently for some was not available at all. I was having none of it. Fortunately, unlike my one visit to Oase last year there was a multitude of girls and I was certain that I would find the HR 50 e girls who offered DATY and if lucky DFK as well. Needless to say there were indeed girls who offered HR sessions to my liking. The names I remember are petite thin Paulina from Bulgaria, Alisha from Romania and Aisha who says she was from Croatia (can anyone confirm that she is actually from Croatia? There were more whose names I can recall but have forgotten their respective countries. I finally settled for Ria from Romania who made it clear from the outset that DFK was not part of the package. She was cute and I went with her and a good time was had by all. For my next session I had to have DFK which is my next best aphrodisiac after pharmaceuticals. Guys, I don't know about you but I found DFK really hard to get from a reasonably attractive provider in a HR session. I had to use my experience to screen out those who said DFK was on the menu but my spidey sense told me it would not be worth it. I finally settled upon Kathy from Poland as I had to have DFK for a viable second session and she did not disappoint. She did attempt to ration DFK but my strategy was to give attention to another part of her anatomy when she did so and after a short while return to DFK. Also her BBBJ was excellent resulting in a hard on which was followed by the soldiers marching home before time. I'll be in Europe all summer and I can see that sooner or later I will have to fork out more money per session. I plan, however, to depart Germany by June 30 and am considering other countries within the region to pursue my hobby.[/QUOTE]I am afraid that you will find nothing better and cheaper in other countries. In fact if you say to the girl I will stay 1 or 2 hours you will get many things for free you just will have to pay the time.

Visited 3 times (2 hours 40 euros) this week, LU was always great, girls very friendly (I don t ask for 30 minutes 50 euros), from far the best LU if I compare to Oase, World, and GT. They are able to attract a lot of girls because they offer flexible working hours.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2043514]I've had a dozen girls or so of whom I know they've starred some Pornoprosa movies. Was it any better? Not really.

HB.[/QUOTE]Point is that pornstars charge more, and there are men who see value in the experience and are willing to pay. Porn star is essentially a "brand name". Brand names aren't always higher quality or better performing. Pornstar in Los Angeles would cost $1500 USD per hour. Nothing stopping some FKK girl from moving to LA and trying to charge that rate, but I doubt she would get a single customer, even if she is prettier or performs better.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2043474]I've never done a girl who I knew for sure was doing or had done porn. But I do know this. I have been with plenty whose performance was so damn good that I believe they "ought to be in pictures"! Hahaha! Whether they did porn or not, they sure the hell gave me the "porn star experience"!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2yX1dpAECc[/URL][/QUOTE]Sex is a brain story, I am not sure that a porn star is delivering better sex, just they increase the sexual power of some men.

What is a porn star? Make some "my dirty hobby" movies and they are a porn star. LOL Usually I avoid FKK party events but sometimes in summer I'm there and these so called porn stars are only riduculoes for me. I also prefer my favs before these porn stars.

A real porn star is for me maybe Tracy Lords during the 80's or Sasha Grey during the 00's or now Alexis Texas. But porn stars at that level I've never seen offers in Germany.

15 years ago Gina Wild was a couple of times at Oase and choose some guys. Also rumors say that Lindsey Olsen worked some years ago shortly at Oase.

Just for curiosity I would maybe book a porn star of this level for even 4 times more money than the standard price. But these thousands of so called porn stars. No thank you.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2043547]Just for curiosity I would maybe book a porn star of this level for even 4 times more money than the standard price. But these thousands of so called porn stars. No thank you.[/QUOTE]Porn stars I would pay a premium for just to have the experience:

1. Barbie Cummings (Lilia at Artemis was a damn good substitute)!

2. Leya Falcon.

3. Spring Thomas.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt,2043509] But it really is that I have really high standards and that there is a good chemistry between the girl and me. [/QUOTE]If you feel like a king, you better look for queens, instead of hunting for princesses.

BTW: do you have a degree in chemistry?

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;2043509] 2. Adriatic (half Italian half German).
But for the rest of my time there when I went to the bar to get water, she grabbed the seat right next to me and made the experience even more unpleasant. Honestly, if she was not such a *****, she could probably make a killing at the place. She has the "look", but she thinks she is a princess, even in this industry, so she expects the guys to come to her and do what she wants. She must get off her high horse. [/QUOTE]Well, this is the old story: the others have to change! So far, it has never worked!

Adriana often sits at the same place at the bar. And of course she will come back to that place after a walk through the club or after room / showers. Why should she bother about where you sit?

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2043755]If you feel like a king, you better look for queens, instead of hunting for princesses.

BTW: do you have a degree in chemistry?

Well, this is the old story: the others have to change! So far, it has never worked!

Adriana often sits at the same place at the bar. And of course she will come back to that place after a walk through the club or after room / showers. Why should she bother about where you sit?[/QUOTE]I don't even understand what the prince vs king comment feels if a prince is trying to find his princess, isn't it the same for a king to find his queen? But much older? Sorry, I'm not in the old category yet. Also sorry that I don't give my hard earned money to any attractive girl that pressures me to session with them, I'd do half the place in a day.

I've suggested what she should do for the betterment of herself and / clients, but of course, she can do whatever she pleases. Same thing as with where she can sit, but obviously a little common decency / courtesy goes a long way. Guess she's got chumps ready and willing to defend her though, so I missed my chance to get pussy whipped.

I don't mind slow periods in a club before the chaos of evenings, but how early is just too early for Sharks on a Thursday, you know where there really is no point of even being there yet?

I've read Gt is a day time club, what time do the decent girls start showing up at Sharks on a typical Thursday?

The way I see pornstars is more like advanced internet dating services when thinking they are available for out or incalls. Because you don't just see heir picures, but also their bedtime skills. One pornstar I think is skilled is rachele richey. Other famous pornstars can be pure optics, but some of them show their love for sex and naughtiness when on camera.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2043782]I don't mind slow periods in a club before the chaos of evenings, but how early is just too early for Sharks on a Thursday, you know where there really is no point of even being there yet?

I've read Gt is a day time club, what time do the decent girls start showing up at Sharks on a typical Thursday?[/QUOTE]Sharks is also more a day club until 1 am, quite low casting after. Night clubs are Aca, Samya, World, Oase, Palace, with full casting nearly until the end.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2043723]Porn stars I would pay a premium for just to have the experience:

1. Barbie Cummings (Lilia at Artemis was a damn good substitute)!

2. Leya Falcon.

3. Spring Thomas.[/QUOTE]Too fat for me, and porn actress are sometimes very different in private than in faking movies. I met a few who were nearly shy and not at all top performers. Porn movies are very fake, not real sex. Some FKK Romanians are much more skillful.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2043782]I've read Gt is a day time club, what time do the decent girls start showing up at Sharks on a typical Thursday?[/QUOTE]You will find decent girls at both Sharks and GT day and night. Showing up even at noon at Sharks will be fine. Better than sitting in your hotel room. GT is not necessarily a day time club rather it is the best option during the day in NRW. ACA day time lineup was ok this trip too.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2043782]I don't mind slow periods in a club before the chaos of evenings, but how early is just too early for Sharks on a Thursday, you know where there really is no point of even being there yet?

I've read Gt is a day time club, what time do the decent girls start showing up at Sharks on a typical Thursday?[/QUOTE]This week even before 11 am there were a minimum of 25 girls, around 2 pm most probably 50.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2043723]Porn stars I would pay a premium for just to have the experience:

1. Barbie Cummings (Lilia at Artemis was a damn good substitute)!

2. Leya Falcon.

3. Spring Thomas.[/QUOTE]Few years ago I had experience with Barbara Devil in FKK "Day and Night" (Bürstadt). It was a special event there. One hour with anal was 250 Euros. She is googlable if you'd like to see how she looks now. That time she was slimmer and looked prettier. I don't know how to insert the image from the link.

I wouldn't say that it was something special except of knowing that I am doing pornstar.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2043547]What is a porn star? Make some "my dirty hobby" movies and they are a porn star.

Just for curiosity I would maybe book a porn star of this level for even 4 times more money than the standard price. But these thousands of so called porn stars. No thank you.[/QUOTE]Simply being a pornstar, does not make me want to pay extra either. Most pornstars, I wouldn't pay 50 EUR for. I tried Sensual Jane for 350 EUR, so she is my "Alexis Texas".

Getting turned on is sometimes contextual or mental. It's not always about the beauty or sexual skill of the girl. When I lost my virginity at 16 it was amazing, simply due to anticipation (sneaking into her house and almost getting caught added to the thrill, haha). I know one monger who only seems to derive thrill the first time he fucks the WG. She could be 10 optic, 10 performer, but if he fucked her a week later, it would be like fucking an 8 optic, 8 performer. So fucking a porn star that you idealize is just a mental thrill.

[QUOTE=SexInCity;2042422]Can your senior mongers give some description of how they look like. I have been following forum for weeks but could not collect much useful things other than name / nationality. Thanks in advance.

Name / Nationality / hair color / height bare foot / age / notes.

Mandy / De. /.

Sandra / De. /.

Nicolette / Hu. /.

Evita / /.

Dina / Hu. / blond? / named queen of FKK.

Tessa / De. / brown / 165 cm /20/ big tatto on shoulder.

Steffi / ? / ?[/QUOTE]Since no one answer, I will try here. Though I have been to Sharks many times, I have no idea who is Mandy or Sandra. I'm sure I have seen them before but they are not probably my spec.

Nicolette. One of my favorite girl at Sharks. I don't think you will find her anymore at Sharks (lets just leave it at that).

Evita. ROM, long black, probably 5"4-5"5, 23, sitting on the sofa across the dance pole, she is away at the moment.

Dina. HUN, long dark blonde?, 26 I think, a little "curvy", beautiful eyes, normally sitting by the bar (restaurant side) but the if seats are full she will also sit by one of the table close to the restaurant.

Tessa. Don't know who she is.

Steffi. ROM, shoulder length blonde, 23/24, also sit by the bar, restaurant side, you can find her by the bar between the opening gap and the coffee machine, most of the time will have the towel around her waist, always wear bright red lipstick, No DFK, even me, I rarely, if ever, get it from her, but if she really likes you she can give excellent LFK.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2043862]Too fat for me.[/QUOTE]Or "Sticky"? I like women with some shape and curves, preferably with a shapely, weight proportionate arse, not a rail thin stick figure.

Mandy and Sandra are 2 blond German girls with white skin and few tattoos, mid length hair. Her lips tattooed on her right ass for Mandy. Both usually staying by the table close to restaurant. High GFE level, no upselling and kindness for both. About increasing upselling I read, even never experienced at Sharks for DFK or DATY or BBBJ, Sandra and Mandy should teach to others: skill for sex and honesty. Not top models but 2 sweet angels.

But who are now the beauties at Sharks? Still can find some in Germany. My record girl, Kate Aca, not Katalina, has success now at GT and would be a superstar at 150 GND Sharks. Even never tried her because not attracted by her face, sad if Nicoletta left, like was sad Mersi. Hu didn t stay, returning to Erfurt rather than big Sharks. For beauties still remaining: Dina, Steffi, among so many GND, but both not enough sensuality for foreplay and sex.

I actually think porn stars, at least those in US productions, are better looking now than in yesteryears. There is a lot less stigma perhaps (both viewing and acting) and may be other reasons, but girls and guys are both in better shape, better hygiene, etc. Many porn girls from 70's and 80's and even 90's were somewhat fat, had unshaven or partially shaven Bush. Anyway, that's my view. Ironically, porn is so free now, and the margins for producers and distributors and wages for porn stars are cLearly down from past, and its interesting that the industry is attracting better looking girls now.

Traci Lords was cute but her notoriety was mainly due to being [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] and her videos being illegal. I am partial to slender girls with pretty face and smallish tits, and there are so many of them (Angela Crystal in her early years, Stefani Morgan, Jassie James, Lacy Heart, Alexa Grace, Jenni Lee, Teagan Presley pre boob job, and so on) and some of them have done escorting but reports say they charge north of $1500 per session.

Evita is currently on holiday. Dina wasn't working last week either.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2044141]Evita is currently on holiday. Dina wasn't working last week either.

HB.[/QUOTE]How many girls on Friday or Saturday at the moment?

Top beauty is so subjective. I agree with you on a few girls sirioja, but hardly more than on 50%. And probably less. With BB for example I think we agree on less than 20%. A bit higher with me and PL, Mr. Ho, Takedown etc, and perhaps 50%. But I don't see me agreeing with Craiova, McAdonis etc. Anyway, Alexia is rumored to be back for a short visit again...

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2044042]Mandy and Sandra are 2 blond German girls with white skin and few tattoos, mid length hair. Her lips tattooed on her right ass for Mandy. Both usually staying by the table close to restaurant. High GFE level, no upselling and kindness for both. About increasing upselling I read, even never experienced at Sharks for DFK or DATY or BBBJ, Sandra and Mandy should teach to others: skill for sex and honesty. Not top models but 2 sweet angels.

But who are now the beauties at Sharks? Still can find some in Germany. My record girl, Kate Aca, not Katalina, has success now at GT and would be a superstar at 150 GND Sharks. Even never tried her because not attracted by her face, sad if Nicoletta left, like was sad Mersi. Hu didn t stay, returning to Erfurt rather than big Sharks. For beauties still remaining: Dina, Steffi, among so many GND, but both not enough sensuality for foreplay and sex.[/QUOTE]That's a bummer that Mersi is gone. It's always been my fantasy to session with a girl that spoke absolutely no English at all, and it sounded like she was going to the one to watch out for on that end.

Any suggestions for good service providers who speak not a word of English?

MCP.

It seems that the LU is down ATM. Are there any new superstars?

Milana still at Art and Nastia not back?

Yeah sure I like Steffi but her service I don't like, LOL.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2044211]Anyway, Alexia is rumored to be back for a short visit again...[/QUOTE]She was there last Friday for sure!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2044024]Or "Sticky"? I like women with some shape and curves, preferably with a shapely, weight proportionate arse, not a rail thin stick figure.[/QUOTE]I also like good ratio waist / ass like my 2 record girls Kate. Ro and Madi. Ro, but I like firm body, not fat belly, ass and legs.

Haven't been to Germany for a while. Going to visit at the end of this month. Don't see Roxana mentioned on the last few pages. Is she still around?

[QUOTE=McGrath;2044261]Haven't been to Germany for a while. Going to visit at the end of this month. Don't see Roxana mentioned on the last few pages. Is she still around?[/QUOTE]Roxanna wasn't at the last 2 or 3 month at Sharks.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2044211]Top beauty is so subjective. I agree with you on a few girls sirioja, but hardly more than on 50%. And probably less. With BB for example I think we agree on less than 20%. A bit higher with me and PL, Mr. Ho, Takedown etc, and perhaps 50%. But I don't see me agreeing with Craiova, McAdonis etc. Anyway, Alexia is rumored to be back for a short visit again...[/QUOTE]Of course, tastes are subjective.

My prettiest girl at Sharks was model Francesca / Megan. Ro when sophisticated brunette, not Asian business blond, but I really hope my advice to thank her for our about 35 1 h30 rooms, was good and she will succeed at Globe. At least she has more time for her private life now. Much prettier, shining face for me than Anja or Nastia.

Other very pretty; Alice / Kate. Ro, Rena. Ro and Karin. Ro. Romanians are really my prettiest in FKK, not only at Sharks, but also Kate Aca, Madi World, 1 at LR.

My classiest was Alice / Kate / Katalina, for only 1-2 hours for 2 rounds room at Sharks, but I followed her at Globe for many expensive rooms there. I think my best was at Sharks, when she looked me in the eyes, making me lose control, so I asked her for a second round to enjoy her for longer time for sex. At midnight, I had to drive to Paris, when I didn't sleep on night before at Paradise Stuttgart, so difficult life, couldn't ski on this Sunday 16 April 2016.

Hottest girl was Roberta. Ro ex Zurich, amazing intense room in very warm chalet on 3 July, just after Austrian Formula 1 . Only worked at Sharks from 1st to 3 July 2016.

Sharks had golden years from Summer 2014 to Summer 2016, before becoming GND land.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2044217]It seems that the LU is down ATM. Are there any new superstars?

Milana still at Art and Nastia not back?

Yeah sure I like Steffi but her service I don't like, LOL.[/QUOTE]May be the LU is down, but it depends when you will go, if Shark LU is no more okay for us, I am afraid that it will be difficult to find a better one in Germany. Every day there are a minimum of 50 to 100 girls for me always some that I appreciate.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2044266]Roxanna wasn't at the last 2 or 3 month at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply.

Last I saw Roxanna was in Mid April.

Here my contribution to thank all punters that helped me make the right choice (P.S. I also went to Palace and was a disaster -I was a bug fan of Palace- same casting hust few girls maybe 20 max and only 3 nice rest were lots of ghetto guys from France).

So Sharks Saturday & Sunday:

I rent a car as usual from Fra, parking Full I park on the side. I've been to sharks several times over last 2 years this time as usual Lots of girls (a lot) some used be there before and new ones was easy get room because of Final champions league.

Esther: Ro, cute face, natural, great blow job no push on sales.

Miki: blonde ro, nice ass and natural tits, she has birth mark on arm, sex was not good as she complains of hard sex she is OK I pay €50.

Iris: new ro very tan very skinny very sweet great fuck great BJ €100.

Brenda: what a body! Dark hair ro, best big natural tits no upsell super nice great BJ great sex she left Sunday will be back after break.

Diana blonde ro: what a little scam! She take me room natural tits very slim, I make her cum and Give €100 she say no its €250 cause CIM fingers and FK, I was like wow! Start be a scandal I settle at €200 to get peace and move on with my casting.

But never again!

Yelize brunette ro great face body average friend of Brenda amazing BBJ best ecer good girl.

JJ, dark hair German / Persian great face great service.

I had couple more I don't remember name.

Apart Diana nobody upsell me I pay what's fair for services €150 if CIM and 1 HR, most of time €50 or €100.

Very big casting anyone can find what they like, janine on couch in entrance Saturday getting drunk with the sponsors, first she told me to meet in 2 hours but ahe never left the couch. Amazing deal she got that one but I fucked hwr before so I m cool.

Bottom line IMHO Sharks is always a great place to go tou will always find what you beed and always new ones.

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=MrCrankyPants;2044216]That's a bummer that Mersi is gone. It's always been my fantasy to session with a girl that spoke absolutely no English at all, and it sounded like she was going to the one to watch out for on that end.

Any suggestions for good service providers who speak not a word of English?

MCP.[/QUOTE]I really enjoyed only communicate with hands and smiles with Mersi who didn't speak English and I don't speak German. Interesting and enjoyable new experience: foreplay and sex without words. When she had diner with Dina and Nicoletta, both seemed a bit surprised Mersi smiled to me after our 1 hour, not speaking but sweet, room. I would have liked to repeat but never saw her again. It was on beginning of September 2016. She was so fresh in mind and body, with full, firm tits, a real natural white skin beauty, I didn't see new other beauties like her after at Sharks.

On the other hand, I also really enjoy with Romanian girls who speak french, a bit like with a French woman, because some Romanians are quite close to French for sexuality.

[QUOTE=TrueNature;2044361]
Diana blonde ro: what a little scam! She take me room natural tits very slim, I make her cum and Give 100 she say no its 250 cause CIM fingers and FK, I was like wow! Start be a scandal I settle at 200 to get peace and move on with my casting.

But never again!

[/QUOTE]So technically she sharked you 50 e bc 1 HR + CIM wudve been 150 e, but you got fingers and FK, LOL.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2044662]So technically she sharked you 50 e bc 1 HR + CIM wudve been 150 e, but you got fingers and FK, LOL.[/QUOTE]But Diana asked for 250 , she should go to work at Globe or Bumsalp. For upselling Sharks girls who think they are pretty enough, without looking at them in the mirror, they can try Aphrodisia in Zurich city for 500 per hour, or 280/30 mn, with extra for sugar party: 100 more for sugar for the guy and 200 more for sugar for the party WG. I don t like sugar party.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2044677]But Diana asked for 250 , she should go to work at Globe or Bumsalp. For upselling Sharks girls who think they are pretty enough, without looking at them in the mirror, they can try Aphrodisia in Zurich city for 500 per hour, or 280/30 mn, with extra for sugar party: 100 more for sugar for the guy and 200 more for sugar for the party WG. I don t like sugar party.[/QUOTE]50 e extra for fingers and 50 e for FK, LOL.

I imagine her making alot of money if she provided good service instead of upselling like crazy.

She's pretty arrogant as well prolly thinking she's better than 50 e, LOL.

Heli is not in Sharks anymore? Sad news, she will be missed. She had it all: style, the looks, the talk and the charm. She could compete with the best of them.

Friends,

The Sharks website describes a VIP Lounge -- which puzzled me, since it appears to be simply, "the upstairs". Anybody can go up there, right? That's where the pole is, so I'd imagine that's accessible to everyone. Is there a separate "exclusive" area upstairs, or is this all hyperbole for the sake of marketing?

What makes one a VIP, anyway? An embossed card, an exorbitant surcharge. A secret handshake? Do I got to learn a password or something?

MCP.

[QUOTE=MrCrankyPants;2044802]Friends,

The Sharks website describes a VIP Lounge -- which puzzled me, since it appears to be simply, "the upstairs". Anybody can go up there, right? That's where the pole is, so I'd imagine that's accessible to everyone. Is there a separate "exclusive" area upstairs, or is this all hyperbole for the sake of marketing?

What makes one a VIP, anyway? An embossed card, an exorbitant surcharge. A secret handshake? Do I got to learn a password or something?

MCP.[/QUOTE]There is a seperate upstairs VIP area at Sharks.

And what makes you VIP? Very easy: money. The more money you spend the more VIP you are.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2044892]There is a seperate upstairs VIP area at Sharks.

And what makes you VIP? Very easy: money. The more money you spend the more VIP you are.[/QUOTE]BTW VIP lounges or rooms you find in almost every larger FKK club.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2044713]50 e extra for fingers and 50 e for FK, LOL.

I imagine her making alot of money if she provided good service instead of upselling like crazy.

She's pretty arrogant as well prolly thinking she's better than 50 e, LOL.[/QUOTE]I experienced Ada for 1 hour for 100 with GFE services not bad at all. I also saw her many times at History Basel Liestal. She is not at all arrogant, but a sweet girl when You treat her well. She often asked me at Sharks or History if I wanted to repeat. After my room with Ada, Diana came to me after speaking with Ada, asking me if I wanted to go to room with her, I m pretty sure she wouldn't upsell if I would have gone with her and also not arrogant with me.

I think Ada and Diana just protect themselves about this hard job, no arrogance if you speak with them, but for sure if they were able to smile like did Megan even her job at Sharks was difficult for her, they could be busier than when I saw them turning around all day, and without upselling like my room with Ada = 100 for 1 h, or like Megan to who I always only gave club rate for time spent in room, no extra, never tip, then Diana and Ada could get better business, with their short model body. Only average face for me for Diana. Unfortunately, they don t have smiling behaviour to attract clients, same than Anja, but they are not arrogant and can even be nice behaviour. All 3 are to discover, under the arrogant look, but not arrogant behaviour in room. Ada is quite sweet, Anja is playful, sometimes biting you.

On busy nights and when there are no paying VIP customers, the upstairs VIP lounge and rooms become fair game. I've fucked in all the rooms (and one of the jacuzzi tubs) as well as on two of the couches in the lounge area.

Craiova nice Name!

Which club you could suggested for 6 hours layover at Frankfurt Int?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=DanielPo;2044914]Craiova nice Name!

Which club you could suggested for 6 hours layover at Frankfurt Int?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan.

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2044906]On busy nights and when there are no paying VIP customers, the upstairs VIP lounge and rooms become fair game. I've fucked in all the rooms (and one of the jacuzzi tubs) as well as on two of the couches in the lounge area.[/QUOTE]What do customers pay to be considered VIPs?

[QUOTE=MrCrankyPants;2045185]What do customers pay to be considered VIPs?[/QUOTE]VIP=mug? If I remember right it is double the normal charge? Others will correct me if I am wrong.

I also don't know the VIP rates at FKK clubs. I never used the VIP facilities at Oase or Palace, never used the VIP room at World. The Sharks VIP rooms I used only for free when they are on crowded days open for free.

Only at Finca (20 euro per hour) and at Mainhattan (50 euro per hour) I used the VIP rooms bc I want a nice whirlpool session with fresh and clean water.

[QUOTE=MrCrankyPants;2045185]What do customers pay to be considered VIPs?[/QUOTE]I pay discount entry and ask for blue VIP robe, then I try all day and night to find a beauty. Even not a top performer like model Megan, but I'm ready to work hard to enjoy a kind and sweet beauty, but who now? Of course, Mandy and Sandra are high GFE level, but I look for sexy, sophisticated woman look, not teeny, beauty. Even I prefer for her she stays at home enjoying her best present for life, but if I dare, I would say to her: Katalina. Ro come back, even at 27. You would still be the Hessen Queen. Just a dream, but better for her to stay away to enjoy real life.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2045356]I pay discount entry and ask for blue VIP robe, ...[/QUOTE]VIP is written on all the robes, blue and white as well. If everyone is VIP then no one is VIP. I hope it won't waste your next visits.

[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2045826]VIP is written on all the robes, blue and white as well. If everyone is VIP then no one is VIP. I hope it won't waste your next visits.[/QUOTE]No visit planned at Sharks, nor Oase, nor World even birthday on 10 June.

Much better day today, better line up better food.

Used the sauna today that was insane, good day today.

I will be back there again 06-11.

Someone told me today that Thursday is a pretty bad day here.

Today I used a VIP room. Didn't pay and really couldn't see why I would bother paying even 1 euro for it (my personal view). It's just another box in the warehouse (okay I prefer a comfortable box but the normal rooms do just fine).

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2045356]Even not a top performer like model Megan, but I'm ready to work hard to enjoy a kind and sweet beauty, but who now?[/QUOTE]I would not describe her as a top performer and not anymore a top beauty.

I am since end of 2016 a regular of a performer. She has half good reviews and half bad on german forums. I know the special link you have, but nearly all girls I did in sharks where better performer.

Without her beauty, I would rate her a top mistake.

Etant 'scotch' à une fille depuis quelques mois, je and'ai plus l'occasion de savourer mon petit sirop de soja.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2045936]Today I used a VIP room. Didn't pay and really couldn't see why I would bother paying even 1 euro for it (my personal view). It's just another box in the warehouse (okay I prefer a comfortable box but the normal rooms do just fine).[/QUOTE]You are thinking linearly. The room is not for you. It is to impress the girls. Makes some guys feel big too. It shows they are not a cheap Charlie. Some would swear you get better service because you are a high roller. Same goes for buying the expensive Champagne. But that is only for those who can afford it.

Had great time on two occasions one on Friday and another on Sunday last month.

1) Friday as known to all is very busy even around 3 PM looked like full capacity crowd. Started talking to what looked like best girl In the club Big Romanian with fancy name Amira but didn't work she kind of sulked upon DFK for standard 50 E but never talked about 100 E / HR so it seemed she wanted 100 E DFK + Standard so I had to let her go.

Later enjoyed immensely the company of with very little Romanian under 20 with great smile and nice pair of titties usually sits around dance pole near the stairs. Full DFK, Medium BBBJ, Very energetic Cowgirl and Smooth ass Doggy for finish All this in 30 min session 50+5. I would say 9/10.

[QUOTE=HappyFkk;2045983]I would not describe her as a top performer and not anymore a top beauty.

I am since end of 2016 a regular of a performer. She has half good reviews and half bad on german forums. I know the special link you have, but nearly all girls I did in sharks where better performer.

Without her beauty, I would rate her a top mistake.[/QUOTE]It seems as though some providers perform better for some guys than for others. I saw where Gloria, Ro. was favorably reviewed by a poster but she was among the worst I've ever had in an FKK.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2045936]Today I used a VIP room. Didn't pay and really couldn't see why I would bother paying even 1 euro for it (my personal view). It's just another box in the warehouse (okay I prefer a comfortable box but the normal rooms do just fine).[/QUOTE]Well since the VIP room is actually for the tutes, how about we let them pay the premium price for using it then? LOL!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2046100]It seems as though some providers perform better for some guys than for others. I saw where Gloria, Ro. was favorably reviewed by a poster but she was among the worst I've ever had in an FKK.[/QUOTE]Of course, do you really believe I will share on this forum the name of the girls I have great time with? From my side no name, but in each club I have some girls that I always go with, I send them a SMS to check when they are there and they are waiting for me, stressless for me and the girl, she knows that the day will be correct (long session) with a guy with normal sexual behavior, respecting them. After so many years I could write a book about FKK life.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2046100]It seems as though some providers perform better for some guys than for others. I saw where Gloria, Ro. was favorably reviewed by a poster but she was among the worst I've ever had in an FKK.[/QUOTE]If you mean blond Gloria. Ro, a lovely sweet candy for my 1 hour room with her on a so frustrating Easter Monday when snow was too fresh to jump in my mountain. She is not a porn performer but her kindness and smiles saved this bad day: Sharks instead of Verbier, but on next Friday, as I said to her, I was back to jump in icy face, single to jump on that day. Not the faintest upselling for Gloria, she is all what I like with Romanian women behavior, just not exceptional beauty and not full of sensuality, but I enjoyed very GFE time on couch and sex with her.

Why is Sharks so short of men?. Today for example, a Saturday, at around 19.00 there were about five girls for every man in the main room. The girls keep saying they don't understand why business is declining. (And it's not the effect of the World party).

Maybe it has something to do with all the upselling and refusal to do decent sessions for 50 euros. One girl who speaks almost no English or German knows how to say her price is 100 but little else. I guess that's what she's been told.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2046358]Why is Sharks so short of men?. Today for example, a Saturday, at around 19.00 there were about five girls for every man in the main room. The girls keep saying they don't understand why business is declining. (And it's not the effect of the World party).

Maybe it has something to do with all the upselling and refusal to do decent sessions for 50 euros. One girl who speaks almost no English or German knows how to say her price is 100 but little else. I guess that's what she's been told.[/QUOTE]It's been that way for almost 2 weeks. I think Ramadan has a big effect on clubs with a significant Turkish clientelle, more than the girls realize. Oase was missing their late night crowd. Some NRW clubs have been dead quiet also. I guess Sharks has enough of a Turkish crowd to show some effects.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2046404]It's been that way for almost 2 weeks. I think Ramadan has a big effect on clubs with a significant Turkish clientelle, more than the girls realize. Some NRW clubs have been dead quiet also. I guess Sharks has enough of a Turkish crowd to show some effects.[/QUOTE]Maybe the slow business will encourage the sharky girls to be a bit more reasonable and more accommodating.

Then again, maybe that's just wishful thinking.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2046358]Why is Sharks so short of men?. Today for example, a Saturday, at around 19.00 there were about five girls for every man in the main room. The girls keep saying they don't understand why business is declining. (And it's not the effect of the World party).

Maybe it has something to do with all the upselling and refusal to do decent sessions for 50 euros. One girl who speaks almost no English or German knows how to say her price is 100 but little else. I guess that's what she's been told.[/QUOTE]Looks like we were both there.

Saturday was definitely more crowded and lively than Friday. I spent 10-12 hrs on both days, early afternoon to near close.

You are right about main room at 7 PM but that's because many men were outside in the garden, right?! By nightfall, the main room was jump jiving.

Arrived at noon.

The purpose of today's fieldwork at Sharks is to go to a room with a girl only new to me for 50 E /30 min and confirm how many of girls will say OK to kiss and DATY.

1) Scarlett: 1300-1330 (50 E /30 min, 155 cm, long brown hair, fairly pretty, GND, slim, be-cup, started FKK Sharks this Feb. In a room, no kiss allowed just lip-to-lip greeting kiss only, caressing, 15 mint DATY with her possible cum, BBBJ, fetch of a rubber, 5 min cow-girl, and time's up. Repeat.

2) Melanie: 1415-1440,50 E /30 min, 22 yo, 170 cm, long brown hair, very pretty without glasses, model slim, 1. 5 year at Sharks. No kiss allowed even a greeting kiss, caressing, BBBJ, cow-girl, 15 min missionary with her almost cum, and time's up. Must repeat.

3) Elektra: 1515-1545,50 E /30 min, Greek, 20 yo, long curly platinum blonde, fairly pretty, GND, W-the-cup, 2 months at Sharks after escort service in UK. In a room LFK, caressing, 10 min DATY with her possible cum, BBBJ, cow-girl, and time's up. May repeat.

4) Stella: 1650-1720,50 E /30 min, Turkish / German, 18 yo, 155 cm, short brunette, pretty, petit, be-cup, 2 months at Sharks. In a room LFK, caressing, 18 mint DATY with her possible cum, BBBJ, no intercourse due to my junior's problem and time's up. Repeat.

5) Angelina: 1915-1934,50 E /30 min, long black hair, tanned, fairly pretty, A-cup, 6 months at Sharks 6 months after Oase. In a room no kiss and no DATY allowed, mediocre BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie, missionary with no reaction on her and HJ. Not repeat.

6) Valentina: 2005-2025,50 E /30 min, long brown hair, fairly pretty with glasses, Si-see-cup, 5 days at Sharks. In a room 15 min after caressing on the couch, DFK, 69, missionary with her O, her massage on me and time's up. May repeat.

7) Gloria: 2050-2118,50 E /30 min, 158 cm, long blonde ponytailed, fairly pretty, GND, be-cup, fairly slim, a couple of months at Sharks. In the SM room, Listerine for both of us, lip-to-lip kiss, covered BJ my sitting on the swing, cow-girl, doggie, missionary, spoon, HJ, each masturbation with her on the swing and the throne, HJ and time's up. May not repeat.

8) Francesca: 2330-2400,50 E /30 min, 26 yo, 178 cm, long platinum blonde, fairly pretty, slim, be-cup. In a room LFK, caressing, BBBJ, cow-girl, DATY, missionary, DATY with her O, missionary and time's up. Repeat.

Left at 1 am.

Arrived at noon.

1) Sasha: 1340-1412,50 E /30 min, Ghanaian, 26 yo, 179 cm. In a room DFK, caressing, DATY with her intense O, BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie, break due to my junior's condition, pillow talk and time's up. Repeat.

2) Jenifer: 1500-1555,100 E /60 min (initially 50 E /30 min, but extended due to her pussy's condition), 18 yo, 165 cm, long platinum blonde (extension), fairly pretty, A-cup, waistless, muscular legs (football player) giving her squeeze-box. In a room LFK, BBBJ, cow-girl, my 40 min DATY with her big O, missionary, and break due to my junior's condition. Sorry to say, but I broke the 50 E /30 min rule to a new girl this time, but couldn't stop my licking while she was on the way to her orgasm. May repeat.

3) Ester: 1730-1830,100 E /1 h, the first time in the past 2 months (now prettier and slimmer than 2 months ago). In a room DFK, caressing, my 26 min DATY with her intense O, BBBJ, 12 min cow-girl with her second intense O, my 20 min massage on her. Must repeat.

4) Raluka: 1935-2005,50 E /30 min, 170 cm, semi-long platinum blonde, fairly pretty, a little saggy A-cup, slim 6 months at Sharks after a small club in Berlin. On a couch in the VIP lounge, no kiss and no licking allowed for 50 E /30 min session, 1 min BBBJ, 6 min cow-girl, 8 min doggie and 10 min missionary leading me to total exhaustion and my bow in supplication for ceasefire. Continuous 24 min fucking is the record even in her FKK career according to her. Repeat.

5) Laura: 2035-2100,50 E /30 min, Hungarian, 160 cm, 21 yo, semi-long curly brown hair, a little oval face, A-cup, slim. In a room, no kiss and no licking allowed, BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie, missionary, at 18 min mark, her rude massage on me. She confessed that she hasn't have orgasm since 3 years ago, so may repeat to save her.

6) Rita: 2210-2240,50 E /30 min, 158 cm, round face, short blonde, the first day at Sharks an year after Oase. In a room, no kiss was allowed, so we started 69,12 min after which, cow-girl, doggie, missionary leading her to O, time's up. May repeat.

7) Raja: 2300-2350 (excluding 10 min as tip), 100 E /60 min & 50 E (CIM), the first time in the past 2 months. In a room DFK, caressing, DATY with her fingering leading her to the first O, my G-spot fingering with her help by fingering on clit to the second O, BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary with her fingering to the third O and 20 min BBBJ leading me to pop.

Must repeat.

Arrived at 11 am to see Sandra.

1) Sandra: 1115-1245,150 E /1. 5 h, the first time in the past 6 months. We'the made a promise yesterday to meet around 11 am today, and she was waiting for me at the bar. In a room we enjoyed DFK, gentle caressing, DATY with her first O, fingering DATY with her second, missionary with her third, fingering DATY with her fourth, missionary with her fifth and sixth, fingering DATY with her seventh and eighth as the last time, and then she began experiencing numerous cervical orgasms. What a horny girl she is! I massaged her for 25 min to calm her down. Must must repeat.

2) Diana: 1345-1445,100 E /1 h, the first time in the past six months. In a room DFK, caressing, 12 min DATY leading her to her first O in the last 2 months, BBBJ, 10 min cow-girl, 10 min missionary, 10 min doggie and my massage on her. Must repeat to give her O.

3) Betty: 1620-1720,100 E /1 h, the first time in the past 2 months. In a room we enjoyed DFK, caressing, 40 min DATY, BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary and my massage on her but none of them led her anywhere. I was sorry to hear that she hadn't had orgasm for the last one month and I couldn't give her one this time. Repeat for her O.

4) Melanie: 1800-1855 (excluding 5 min as tip), 100 E /1 h, the second time in this FKK tour. In a room DFK, caressing, 15 min DATY with her O, BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary without our O's, my massage on her. She was so beautiful without glasses in a room to be ought to repeat her.

5) Stefie: 2135-2235,100 E /1 h, the first time in the past 2 months. I found her at her home position of the bar, with no towel around her waist this time. In a room even no lip-to-lip kiss as usual, caressing, DATY with fingering leading her to O, BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie, missionary and my massage on her. Must repeat even without kiss!

6) Bianca: 2310-0010,100 E /1 h & 50 E / covered fingering, the first time in the past 2 months. She as my mistress finally caught me before midnight, I couldn't get away from her anymore. She ordered me to massage her at first in a room, DATY with covered fingering to make her cum, sex and massage her from the neck to the sole, and I obeyed her order. My first massage on her continued for 10 min, DATY with her O for 20 min, BBBJ for 2 min, missionary without O on the both sides for 10 min and the second massage for 18 min. I seriously expect emancipation of slaves.

Left 1 am.

Arrived at 11:30 am.

1) Julia: 1400-1428,50 E /30 min, Italy / Romania, 27 yo, 167 cm, semi-long curly blonde, fairly pretty, Si-see-cup, working for 3 years at Sharks, but the first time for me. In a room DFK, caressing, 3 min DATY with her O, 10 min good BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary and time's up. May repeat.

2) Ellizz: 1440-1540, the first time in the past one and a half years. In a room DFK, caressing, 30 min DATY with her O, BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary, doggie and my massage on her. She kept high heels on during our session as before. Must repeat.

3) Evilina: 1600-1650,100 E /1 h, 174 cm, blonde with platinum part as extension, perfect waist line, A-cup, fairly pretty, one year at Sharks. Before our session she proposed one-hour session with kiss for 100 E and I accepted it. In a room DFK, caressing, 20 min fingering DATY with her O, good BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie, missionary, 40 min mark and 10 min break. May not repeat.

4) Janine: 1900-1950,100 E /1 h, the first time in the past 6 months. In a room I massaged her back for 8 min, her front for 8 min, her 2 min BBBJ, 1 min cow-girl, 2 min doggie, 5 min missionary, my 2 min massage on her pubic and 18 min on her back. I don't know why, but I want to repeat.

5) Holly: 2020-2115,100 E /1 h, 178 cm, long platinum blonde (extension), lips of the Rocky Horror Show, slim, model, A-cup, her first day at Shark after some clubs in Dusseldorf and Hamburg. In a room lip-to-lip kiss, caressing, 20 min DATY with her intense O, BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie, 30 min call, BBBJ, missionary with her second O squeezing my dick and my massage on her. Repeat.

6) Vivian: 2200-2310,100 E /1 h, the first time in the past 2 months. In a room BBBJ, 69,15 min DATY with her intense O, during which I was almost choked by her thighs as before, 20 min missionary with her second O and 25 min massage on her. Must repeat. 7) Mia: 0030-0130,100 E /1 h & 10 E as tip, the first time in the past 1. 5 years. In a room I at first asked to make me cum, then she gave me good BBBJ, 69 leading her to O not me, BBBJ, missionary, her unsuccessful BBBJ. We had good, long discussion on the couch before the session and after the session. Repeat.

Left at 2 am.

[QUOTE=HappyFkk;2045983]I would not describe her as a top performer and not anymore a top beauty.

I am since end of 2016 a regular of a performer. She has half good reviews and half bad on german forums. I know the special link you have, but nearly all girls I did in sharks where better performer.

Without her beauty, I would rate her a top mistake.

Etant 'scotch' une fille depuis quelques mois, je and'ai plus l'occasion de savourer mon petit sirop de soja.[/QUOTE]If I often wrote about her, I never wrote Megan is a hardcore performer, but didn't you repeat with her? I never repeat with low level or not honest girls, but after Mainhattan, I had more than 30 rooms, most for 1 h30 , at Sharks with her. When she was sophisticated brunette look, a real beauty for me, but also kind when she was said so many bullshits about me, sweet for behavior, smiling when she came to me as soon she saw me, not lazy in room until last September when she fell in easy Asian business, she was not at all into this business when she started, so she fell in lower sexual level and on November I said to her we will have to meet in another club. I didn't go with her on my single February visit when I saw her with Asian business blond look, but I don't regret my eyes pleasure so many times in daylight, unfortunately no room with window at Globe where she tour now for second time. I will have to ask desk for the best room. As I said to her, no Asian business at Globe, better business for money, but higher demanding level for services level, but I'm pretty sure she will improve, like Isabella did, after Sharks and World, to become a playful great sexual potential now, even each time Isabella says: You kill me, but we repeat and look forward to play again with her soon. Clever business girls understand they are lucky to work for money business at Globe where 4 hours in room = about 1000, after paying room. After Mainhattan, I'm a bit proud Megan did trust French devil again, like with my 3 top beauty girls did on this week end, offering me their tasty juice.

Arrived at 11:20 on dead Sat, June 10.

1) Kami: 1332-1400,50 E /30 min, Bulgarian, 25 yo, 156 cm, petit, elongated face, long blonde (extension), very saggy be-cup. In a room DFK, caressing, 10 min DATY with her big O, BBBJ, 3 min cow-girl, 6 min missionary and 4 min doggie and her 2 min unsuccessful CIM. May repeat.

2) Melanie: 1500-1550,100 E /1 h, the third time in this FKK tour. In a cabin DFK, soft caressing (she has pain on the tits and back), 20 min "teasing" DATY with her very intense O, BBBJ, 3 min cow-girl, 12 min missionary and my 15 min soft massage on her. Must repeat. I was asked by a blonde-hair young guy in the locker room how good she was just after I'the paid her, so I answered that it depended on personal preference and to me good but to you I don't know, then he rushed back to the lounge. Hope he had a good time with her.

3) Yellis: 1610-1628,50 E /30 min, she's been here more than one year, but the first time for me, average features. In a room no kiss and no DATY was allowed for the fiftyish session, 3 min BBBJ, 3 min cow-girl, 4 min doggie, and no missionary due to my junior's condition. Not repeat.

4) Dorothea: 1735-1905,150 E /1. 5 h, 23 yo, 165 cm, long blonde, petty, pale milky skin, slim, A-cup. In a room DATY (, which she could provide even in 50 E /30 min session), caressing, 25 min DATY with her four apparent orgasms, 15 min missionary with her three apparent O's, 20 min DATY with her five apparent O's and my 25 min massage on her. Must repeat.

5) Anabella: 2130-2230,100 E /1 h, 165 cm long dark brown hair, round face with oriental elegance (100% Romanian, though), A / be cup, slim, working at Sharks since this February. In a room DFK (, which she could provide even in 50 E /30 min session), caressing, 20 min DATY leading her intense O, BBBJ, 10 min cow-girl, 10 sec missionary, sudden drowsiness and 30 min nap with her next to me. Repeat when I'm not sleepy.

Left at midnight after 1 h nap.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2046424]Looks like we were both there...[/QUOTE]Me, three.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2046485]Arrived at 11:30 am.

4) Janine: 1900-1950,100 E /1 h, the first time in the past 6 months. In a room I massaged her back for 8 min, her front for 8 min, her 2 min BBBJ, 1 min cow-girl, 2 min doggie, 5 min missionary, my 2 min massage on her pubic and 18 min on her back. I don't know why, but I want to repeat.

Left at 2 am.[/QUOTE]Do you write all your services time on your phone in room?

What about passionate DFK and sensual orgasm with so sensual doll Janine?

I don't care about girls noises, my only proof for orgasm is when I drink their juice and when they don't let me touch their clit for a while. Madeleine GT asked me to let her sleep a bit after, I thought only men sleep after cumming. Also classy girl.

Jnpr. Yes, by dark it was busier, but not like I have previously seen on Saturday nights. The girl availability was still very high. Sorry not to run into you: it's always good to share info from a reliable person. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2046358]

Maybe it has something to do with all the upselling and refusal to do decent sessions for 50 euros. One girl who speaks almost no English or German knows how to say her price is 100 but little else. I guess that's what she's been told.[/QUOTE]It's definitely part of it. Service levels and attitude are getting worse as the club's lineup gets bigger, girl's turnover increases and more non regulars are visiting. Same effect we saw at Palace and Oase.

HB.

YamaYama. Some of the girls you went with told me very different from that which you say they told you. Who knows what the truth is? Maybe I am gullible.

I think some of your timings may be a bit off as I was with one girl at the same time as you record. Or maybe it's my timings which were off. Doesn't really matter does it.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2046504]It's definitely part of it. Service levels and attitude are getting worse as the club's lineup gets bigger, girl's turnover increases and more non regulars are visiting. Same effect we saw at Palace and Oase.

HB.[/QUOTE]Now touristic clubs to be fucked with upselling by GND, when I had 3 top class and really pretty girls on this week end without faintest upselling. Usually about 1 h45 GFE room after at least 30 mn social time to wake up, at LR for 150 , smiles and caresses after and repeat weekly. More than 2 hours dreamed room, after 2 social times with Madeleine at GT for 200 and a wish to see You again, I also look forward to touch such classy beauty again. And really superb tall white skin, small tits, chestnut Ina. Ro, being offered her cumming juice and got her for 80 € at Aca Velbert. At 4. 15 am even she was tired, she came again to me to give me last pleasure for only 40 , smiles and wish to meet again at Wellcum on August, I really wish. That s why, and I didn't even go with superstar Kate, NRW is so far higher than Hessen at the moment for my weekly experiences. At LR, I could also go with 3 other top girls than mine and new Ina, other Ina with big tits and pretty face ex Magnum, is really lovely.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2046286]If you mean blond Gloria. Ro, a lovely sweet candy for my 1 hour room with her on a so frustrating Easter Monday when snow was too fresh to jump in my mountain. She is not a porn performer but her kindness and smiles saved this bad day: Sharks instead of Verbier, but on next Friday, as I said to her, I was back to jump in icy face, single to jump on that day. Not the faintest upselling for Gloria, she is all what I like with Romanian women behavior, just not exceptional beauty and not full of sensuality, but I enjoyed very GFE time on couch and sex with her.[/QUOTE]It could be because I went with her for 1/2 hour, 50 euros. However, I have so far got good service from other girls for 1/2 hr. She spoke with me on the couch for about 40 minutes before the zimmer but what I hate was that during the session she said 50 e more for a service which we agreed before would be included. Also, she kept interrupting during FS, pulling out to check the condom. I think she was preventing me from cumming in the hope that I would have extended the session to 1 hr. In the end I did not come before 30 minutes and opted to spend the additional 50 e on another chick which I always do in similar circumstances. I won't be dating her again.

Extremely bad lu, got there around 2 p and walked around for about 4 hrs.

My ISG friend jokingly says you better find something soon before you "take a mistake".

So he suggested a girl that just walked in, that he went with 5 yrs ago I think her name was "Pamplona"? Skinny blonde 30's / large burn mark / scar on abdomen, I made a mistake going with her, I asked her how her service was, then my ISG friend stops by to say Hi to her, I thought she was quite rude to him, then he leaves and she says she only does 1 hour for kissing / DATY so I say he told me you wouldn't upsell me, and I stand up and I'm walking away and she nicely says OK wait maybe we "give it a try".

So we go up I try to kiss her she pulls away she says she has lipstick I say I don't care she says well she does, so I'm getting pissed by now and onto the BJ which actually was quite good, then I go DATY and she's moving away saying only little bit, no tongue inside / slow down / be gentle / take it easy? Wtf? I was just licking then she starts saying I don't like this, I can tell you don't respect women!! I say what? I say I'm being nice to you, and I'm paying you and eating your pussy, how is that disrespectful, she retorts well for "such little money" you want everything I can tell you don't respect me and think I'm "cheap".

After giving up on DATY I goto missionary (by now she removed her lipstick w / napkin) I goto kiss I get small pecks like a bird, and she's turning away her face, then I'm trying to get some rhythm but she is stopping me and pulling her leg to the side and pulling my cock out to "check the condom", well I'm pissed off with that, so I say reverse cowgirl so she starts pounding on me hurting my balls, I look at my watch and she sees me in the mirror and asks how much time we have left I say 15 mins, she says what? Are you going to rip me off? I ask what? She says yeah it should almost be 30 mins? That did it, I said stop, I said I'm done, I was too angry to continue, I paid her and must say she is a "scammer" she said she has been working for 6 yrs, I say she should retire, does anyone know if I could have complained to the desk?

So I was going to call it a day but talking to a few guys from the Netherlands, talking about great sessions / service they had the day before in Zürich, so I made another mistake and picked another girl.

It was pretty warm out so I asked lets go into the yard and use a hut she says OK, the last session was complaining about the fan I put on, she said it wasn't necessary.

So 1st she says OK when sitting on the couch when we walk out the backdoor, she says no I don't like outside no way, I'm like wtf? She is already changing what we agreed to I should have walked away.

But we proceed, she is a very tall blonde with tattoos (which I despise), she says she is from Hamburg (is there also Hamburg in ro?) she seems sweet, but the session wasn't that great, Holly is her name, we start out BBJ is pretty good but then she starts gagging and kind of spitting like she's going to vomit and I ask what is the problem and she says I don't like the taste? Wtf? She's talking about what? Pre-cum? This is not going well, so I switch to DATY which went better than then the BJ, then I get on top for missionary and I'm guessing she doesn't want to kiss because she's making faces like I'm gross because I just ate her pussy, very fast small pecks and then turns her head wincing to the side with eyes closed, I want to cum and finish but I can't with her head turned away with eyes closed, I've mongered in the USA For 35 yrs and I've never seen bullshit like this, trust me I've seen lots of other bullshit, but not this style, can anyone say what one can do during a bad session? Can I suggest we go to the desk? Will that improve the session or will that just kill it?

I think I'm a good looking guy, that has great "luck" in USA strip clubs with the top talent / at the lowest rates, I don't know if I'm missing something here, I consider myself a pro, that rarely if ever has a problem there anymore, but here its like I've left earth for some other planet? Planet ROMIE?

So I've been here since Thursday and I've already needed to call today a "day off" I planned on hitting a club everyday but since I'm using pt no sharks today, no club today.

Speaking of the name Sharks, I find it offensive as if are mocking / taunting us.

I may hit it on Monday and then head north to Oase? Or nrw.

I wonder if the issues I had Saturday was that it was Saturday?

In the USA Friday and Saturday nites are pretty bad nites they can be very bad.

Very very crowded and it brings out some of the worst girls you may never see any other days, they slip in for the "easy money" they want max money and min service.

And they don't care if you complain they will just move to another club, they usually are prettier than most and have been doing this longer than most, they love soft drunk guys and Asians.

I read a discussion a few weeks back about BBQ at clubs, it was OK I had some small cuts of beef, and cheese hot dog, I'm not there for the food so ill try no to judge it.

But it was OK no complaints from me.

In fact it was much better than the lu or the service I received from 2 sessions.

I wish I could get a refund on the 6 visit card I bought Friday?

I should probably stay away but I'll ask here anyway.

She sits by the front door, with a very odd younger German chap, and he rubs her back, all night Friday and Saturday! I'm guessing hes paying her for that, 100 e per hour?

I asked her what her name was Friday and somebody said she doesn't speak English? OK why she didn't answer me?

Does she look for "suckers only" that will pay her 100 e an hour to rub her back all night?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2046585]It could be because I went with her for 1/2 hour, 50 euros. However, I have so far got good service from other girls for 1/2 hr. She spoke with me on the couch for about 40 minutes before the zimmer but what I hate was that during the session she said 50 e more for a service which we agreed before would be included. Also, she kept interrupting during FS, pulling out to check the condom. I think she was preventing me from cumming in the hope that I would have extended the session to 1 hr. In the end I did not come before 30 minutes and opted to spend the additional 50 e on another chick which I always do in similar circumstances. I won't be dating her again.[/QUOTE]I remember she is very white skin and I think kind of snake tattoo on arm. No problem about extended time but maybe after few seconds of foreplay, I said to her I prefer to take my time as I usually say to girls when I start to enjoy. But I remember she asked at the end if I wanted to stay longer, but leaving Verbier before 8 am with previous night at Palace Luzern with no room about really average casting, taking twice little train through mountain, I had to return to Paris, it was 8 pm and had 5 hours driving.

For my experience, as I prefer only 1 beautiful girl rather than 100 GND casting, I also prefer to have only 1 high level room rather than rabbit fucking 5 pieces of meat on day. Maybe because difficult for me to find really attractive and classy behavior girls, so when I find one I prefer to give her my money and enjoy her as long it works. Since I don t visit weekly Sharks, I have many not upselling top girls at Aca, GT, LR and Globe, Swiss and History, too many I can t visit weekly, frustrating job.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2046517]YamaYama. Some of the girls you went with told me very different from that which you say they told you. Who knows what the truth is? Maybe I am gullible.

I think some of your timings may be a bit off as I was with one girl at the same time as you record. Or maybe it's my timings which were off. Doesn't really matter does it.[/QUOTE]I'd questions quite a few of his reports due to various inconsistencies and other facts that can't be posted openly. Not to mention the rate of O's achieved. LOL.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2046614]I'd questions quite a few of his reports due to various inconsistencies and other facts that can't be posted openly. Not to mention the rate of O's achieved. LOL.

HB.[/QUOTE]100% success rate once DATY initiated, LOL.

Guess some gals just fake as a reward bc the guy DATY for 40 min.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2046358]Why is Sharks so short of men?. Today for example, a Saturday, at around 19.00 there were about five girls for every man in the main room. The girls keep saying they don't understand why business is declining. (And it's not the effect of the World party).[/QUOTE]I could turn the question around and ask "why so many men" on my last 3 visits. What FKKs need is an app broadcasting in real time M / F ratios. Attracting more men when a sausage fest is on is not in a club's best long term interest. What about an internationalsexguide app? It would be free as long as you input one M / F ratio on the day you use it.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2046619]100% success rate once DATY initiated, LOL.

Guess some gals just fake as a reward bc the guy DATY for 40 min.[/QUOTE]

Or they fake for it to end at last.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2046485]2) Ellizz: 1440-1540, the first time in the past one and a half years. In a room DFK, caressing, 30 min DATY with her O, BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary, doggie and my massage on her. She kept high heels on during our session as before. Must repeat.
[/QUOTE]Hey YamaYama,

This Ellizz that you hooked up with this past Friday, was she the very slim, short cut blond hair, A cup, Marilyn Monroe lookalike?

Can anyone else corroborate that she is back? Been on the lookout for her return for awhile.

Thanks. Howie.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2046590]Extremely bad lu, got there around 2 p and walked around for about 4 hrs.

My ISG friend jokingly says you better find something soon before you "take a mistake".

So he suggested a girl that just walked in, that he went with 5 yrs ago I think her name was "Pamplona"? Skinny blonde 30's / large burn mark / scar on abdomen, I made a mistake going with her, I asked her how her service was, then my ISG friend stops by to say Hi to her, I thought she was quite rude to him, then he leaves and she says she only does 1 hour for kissing / DATY so I say he told me you wouldn't upsell me, and I stand up and I'm walking away and she nicely says OK wait maybe we "give it a try".

So we go up I try to kiss her she pulls away she says she has lipstick I say I don't care she says well she does, so I'm getting pissed by now and onto the BJ which actually was quite good, then I go DATY and she's moving away saying only little bit, no tongue inside / slow down / be gentle / take it easy? Wtf? I was just licking then she starts saying I don't like this, I can tell you don't respect women!! I say what? I say I'm being nice to you, and I'm paying you and eating your pussy, how is that disrespectful, she retorts well for "such little money" you want everything I can tell you don't respect me and think I'm "cheap".

After giving up on DATY I goto missionary (by now she removed her lipstick w / napkin) I goto kiss I get small pecks like a bird, and she's turning away her face, then I'm trying to get some rhythm but she is stopping me and pulling her leg to the side and pulling my cock out to "check the condom", well I'm pissed off with that, so I say reverse cowgirl so she starts pounding on me hurting my balls, I look at my watch and she sees me in the mirror and asks how much time we have left I say 15 mins, she says what? Are you going to rip me off? I ask what? She says yeah it should almost be 30 mins? That did it, I said stop, I said I'm done, I was too angry to continue, I paid her and must say she is a "scammer" she said she has been working for 6 yrs, I say she should retire, does anyone know if I could have complained to the desk?

So I was going to call it a day but talking to a few guys from the Netherlands, talking about great sessions / service they had the day before in Zurich, so I made another mistake and picked another girl.

It was pretty warm out so I asked lets go into the yard and use a hut she says OK, the last session was complaining about the fan I put on, she said it wasn't necessary.

So 1st she says OK when sitting on the couch when we walk out the backdoor, she says no I don't like outside no way, I'm like wtf? She is already changing what we agreed to I should have walked away.

But we proceed, she is a very tall blonde with tattoos (which I despise), she says she is from Hamburg (is there also Hamburg in ro?) she seems sweet, but the session wasn't that great, Holly is her name, we start out BBJ is pretty good but then she starts gagging and kind of spitting like she's going to vomit and I ask what is the problem and she says I don't like the taste? Wtf? She's talking about what? Pre-cum? This is not going well, so I switch to DATY which went better than then the BJ, then I get on top for missionary and I'm guessing she doesn't want to kiss because she's making faces like I'm gross because I just ate her pussy, very fast small pecks and then turns her head wincing to the side with eyes closed, I want to cum and finish but I can't with her head turned away with eyes closed, I've mongered in the USA For 35 yrs and I've never seen bullshit like this, trust me I've seen lots of other bullshit, but not this style, can anyone say what one can do during a bad session? Can I suggest we go to the desk? Will that improve the session or will that just kill it?

I think I'm a good looking guy, that has great "luck" in USA strip clubs with the top talent / at the lowest rates, I don't know if I'm missing something here, I consider myself a pro, that rarely if ever has a problem there anymore, but here its like I've left earth for some other planet? Planet ROMIE?

So I've been here since Thursday and I've already needed to call today a "day off" I planned on hitting a club everyday but since I'm using pt no sharks today, no club today.

Speaking of the name Sharks, I find it offensive as if are mocking / taunting us.[/QUOTE]Funny experience you got at Sharks.

Maybe because I'm used to European women, but even with prostitutes in brothels, I behave with them without forcing them, and to give them the will to please me, due to my behavior with them. Usually, don't work so bad to receive what I enjoy, to repeat with smiles, and no money talk, no extra asked. Respect and manners pay. I'm pretty sure should be the same with US girls.

Janine. De is known to be a doll behavior, good for her to be paid for companionship on couch.

When it doesn't work, better to stop and lose 50, and next one, play again.

Hessen don't seem on top level now, NRW really worth for some pretty GFE girls. With Ramadan, some are quite free, so they are more fresh in mind and body, but not all.

[QUOTE=Howie;2046631]

This Ellizz that you hooked up with this past Friday, was she the very slim, short cut blond hair, A cup, Marilyn Monroe lookalike?

Can anyone else corroborate that she is back? Been on the lookout for her return for awhile.[/QUOTE]Yes she is back.

HB.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2046601]I remember she is very white skin and I think kind of snake tattoo on arm. No problem about extended time but maybe after few seconds of foreplay, I said to her I prefer to take my time as I usually say to girls when I start to enjoy. But I remember she asked at the end if I wanted to stay longer, but leaving Verbier before 8 am with previous night at Palace Luzern with no room about really average casting, taking twice little train through mountain, I had to return to Paris, it was 8 pm and had 5 hours driving.

For my experience, as I prefer only 1 beautiful girl rather than 100 GND casting, I also prefer to have only 1 high level room rather than rabbit fucking 5 pieces of meat on day. Maybe because difficult for me to find really attractive and classy behavior girls, so when I find one I prefer to give her my money and enjoy her as long it works. Since I don t visit weekly Sharks, I have many not upselling top girls at Aca, GT, LR and Globe, Swiss and History, too many I can t visit weekly, frustrating job.[/QUOTE]The Gloria Ro. I sessioned did not have very white skin and in my books is an average looker. However, she was very GFE before the zimmer. Sirioja, you and I differ in that if I can complete 3 shots in a night I would rather date 3 girls rather than have 3 releases with one primadonna. In fact how much better looking are the princesses of Sharks than the others anyway? They are so full of themselves its difficult to extract good chemistry from them to make a 1 hour session worthwhile. My days of spending 1 1/2 hours with a provider and then re-sessioning her are long gone. There are no longer genuine GFE girls like I met in Oase five years ago and before like Simona and Sarah, Ro. , Guitta, Hun. , Michelle, Swit. , etc. Now the girls are more mercenary but thankfully you can still have a normal session. No sense whining because change is inevitable and you have to change your attitude as time goes on. That being said there's still lots of fun to be had at FKKs.

Sunday was very busy to my chagrin as I spent several hours trying to catch the tall ebony black girl, Sasha I think. She appears to be a really class act, spending gentle time with potential customers and capable of a sensible conversation. I will try to catch her again tomorrow.Seems a bit like a girl from previous years as Turgid describes.

There must have been 125 men to about 50 girls, although many men seemed to be there for the hot sun and there was no problem securing rooms.

Looks wise, an average lineup (in my view) with a couple of beauties, and none exuding eroticism (but maybe my expectations are living in the past). At least one of the Darmstadt evening streetwalkers had more sex appeal (there are only in total about 7 or 8).

Why is Sharks so short of men?. Today for example, a Saturday, at around 19.00 there were about five girls for every man in the main room. The girls keep saying they don't understand why business is declining. (And it's not the effect of the World party).

I believe that its Ramadan and during this time there are usually no Muslims attending the FKK clubs. After Ramadan it will for sure pick up again.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2046715]
Looks wise, an average lineup (in my view) with a couple of beauties, and none exuding eroticism (but maybe my expectations are living in the past). At least one of the Darmstadt evening streetwalkers had more sex appeal (there are only in total about 7 or 8).[/QUOTE]Just curious, where exactly in Darmstadt does one find these ladies of the night? Are they close to Sharks?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2046709]The Gloria Ro. I sessioned did not have very white skin and in my books is an average looker. However, she was very GFE before the zimmer. Sirioja, you and I differ in that if I can complete 3 shots in a night I would rather date 3 girls rather than have 3 releases with one primadonna. In fact how much better looking are the princesses of Sharks than the others anyway? They are so full of themselves its difficult to extract good chemistry from them to make a 1 hour session worthwhile. My days of spending 1 1/2 hours with a provider and then re-sessioning her are long gone. There are no longer genuine GFE girls like I met in Oase five years ago and before like Simona and Sarah, Ro. , Guitta, Hun. , Michelle, Swit. , etc. Now the girls are more mercenary but thankfully you can still have a normal session. No sense whining because change is inevitable and you have to change your attitude as time goes on. That being said there's still lots of fun to be had at FKKs.[/QUOTE]Maybe not same blond white skin Gloria. Ro? Tattoo on arm? Jy, do you know if same or not, than the one met on Easter Monday?

Sharks don't seem to be anymore the best club where to meet top GFE beauties, but with top girls I meet at the moment, I prefer to go only with them for hours. I'm not interested to fuck GND or average level, upselling girls. I need beauty and behavior to feel desire and pleasure, GND are to expensive for 50, top girls have no rate for me.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2046721]Just curious, where exactly in Darmstadt does one find these ladies of the night? Are they close to Sharks?[/QUOTE]I'll PM you. The street walking scene needs to be kept low key if it is to survive.

Around 2 km from Sharks. It's around 1 km north of Darmstadt Hauptbahnhof at corner Kirschenallee / Bismarkstr.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2046727]I'll PM you. The street walking scene needs to be kept low key if it is to survive.[/QUOTE]Why this? It' s an official street walker scene. More questionable what will happen in 2 weeks bc the girls need registration.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2046728]Around 2 km from Sharks. It's around 1 km north of Darmstadt Hauptbahnhof at corner Kirschenallee / Bismarkstr.[/QUOTE]Ok correct more or less about the area. I was trying to keep it for those with a real interest. The last thing Darmstadt needs is extra cars doing dangerous u turns on the busy road and sightseers, raising the profile of the street workers: this will lead to their eradication as in most German cities.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2046730]Why this? It' s an official street walker scene.[/QUOTE]There is no such thing as an "official" streetwalkers scene. It may be legal but any local agitation will swiftly lead to the area and possibly the town being declared illegal for street walkers.

Like in Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, Dortmund, Duisburg, Krefeld, Koln, and many many others

[QUOTE=Optimist;2046715] I spent several hours trying to catch the tall ebony black girl, Sasha I think. She appears to be a really class act, spending gentle time with potential customers and capable of a sensible conversation. I will try to catch her again tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Sade or Shadee is her name.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2046734]Sade or Shadee is her name.

HB.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Any info on her service reputation?

According to reviews on German boards: Great.

HB.

Angelina, known ironically by some as the Egyptian as she claims (with a degree of amused bravado) that as her origin. Looks exactly like a Romanian from a particular city: when she told me I had already guessed with 100% certainty.

Black hair, not the youngest, sits between the bar and the stairs to the jacuzzi area, facing it, often hunting, often very busy, figure is relatively slim, or maybe slightly fuller, but not fat or curvy..

Some people do not like her assertive approach, but I have no issues with it. I find her a bit of a change from the more recent influxes of workers in that their restrictive practices (in public display, and mechanical mercenariness) have not been fully adopted by Angelina.

She provides excellent service and has a very direct but sometimes perceptive way of talking. I think she respects clients who don't bullshit and who have some self respect. She may not suit someone looking for a long term emotional partner experiencing repeated orgasms in a club but is excellent at her job. Another girl told me that Angelina had a knack of being able to get men to finish who could not normally do so.That should be a good endorsement

My experience with her makes me think she deserves a good reputation.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2046739]According to reviews on German boards: Great.

HB.[/QUOTE]Thanks again. Nice to know my instincts still work.Hope to get her before she goes on holiday

Howie. Unless I am mistaken she was there again today (and yesterday), but she left around tea time today. I had been hoping to catch her but she seemed to be dealing with something: I guess that's why she left early.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2046614]I'd questions quite a few of his reports due to various inconsistencies and other facts that can't be posted openly...[/QUOTE]Am looking forward to hearing from you on PM, thanks.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2046740]Angelina, ...My experience with her makes me think she deserves a good reputation.[/QUOTE]Just a chemistry.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2046743]Howie. Unless I am mistaken she was there again today (and yesterday), but she left around tea time today. I had been hoping to catch her but she seemed to be dealing with something: I guess that's why she left early.[/QUOTE]Today is her last day. Hope come back soon. Wish she were with me in a hotel, LOL

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2046751]Just a chemistry.[/QUOTE] I'm afraid I don't understand your point.

You mean it was "just" my opinion based on my experience?

I already made it 100% clear my comments were just my views, based on my experience (which I hoped might be useful in some way to others).

Presumably all your posts are the result of "just a chemistry"?.

Sorry, I really don't understand what you are trying to say. If you mean others may really not like her, I fully agree: she is not an insipid girl, but an assertive woman

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2046754]Today is her last day. Hope come back soon. Wish she were with me in a hotel, LOL[/QUOTE]Thank you. That is why she left early then. My bad luck.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2046757]I'm afraid I don't understand your point...[/QUOTE]I just don't like to fuck her again for 50 E. That's it, no more. Personal preference, sorry.

Planned on skipping sharks today so I went for a bike ride to find some food and most things were closed except for Ludwig plaza, which was super packed so I was really hungry and thought "fuk it".

I have this pass with 4 more visits on it, I'm going to use them up if possible, today can't possibly be as bad as yesterday went, right? So I go over around 4 p and its packed with guys but not many girls and what must seem like it was the bottom 20% of the girls that ever work there? I think you would easily be forgiven if you mistakenly thought you were in some 3rd world country other than Deutschland, it was a surreal scene, I didn't count but just a guess maybe 80-90% turks? And a few tables of old German guys sitting in the shade right outside the back door, and I don't think I saw one non-romie / white girl? Except 2-3 Kenyans, so the line up was a complete bust so I thought "fuck it" I'm here I'm going to spend the day relaxing, I used the sauna with dieter, he is awesome, I went swimming about 10 x,the jacuzzi (I've never seen room temp hot tubs before) is that by design?

The BBQ was very good today the mini steaks were seasoned to perfection, had some lamb and a hot dog I ate some food instead of pussy!!so I looked around for about 6 hrs walking around hunting at a very easy tempo.

I was sitting by the front door thinking about leaving when some cute romie walked by. A girl I would never usually even look at, let alone speak with, she seemed like Angelina, very assertive, to steal optimists word she has bravado, I told her I wanted to be her boyfriend for 1/2 HR and it was all over, we went and got a hut in the yard one of the open beds by the grill with nothing covering the door, I fucked her like it was our honeymoon hahaa she was laughing and yelling very loud and just being over the top obnoxious in the very best way, people walking past and were wondering wtf is going on? They were laughing and looking in, she's a blast, if you want a good time call Karmen! Face 7 body 7 service 10, went swimming some more and sat at the bar in the yard and spoke with filina she's a damn sweetheart, I wish she was working the floor instead, she was telling me she just moved back from LOS Angeles, why do the best chicks in the club always work as bartender? Hahaha you don't have to answer that, I know the reason!

I read that Roxanna has been away for one or two months. Does anyone know if and when she will be back? Thanks.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2046590]I think I'm a good looking guy, that has great "luck" in USA strip clubs with the top talent / at the lowest rates, I don't know if I'm missing something here, I consider myself a pro, that rarely if ever has a problem there anymore, but here its like I've left earth for some other planet[/QUOTE]Your first loss is your best loss; Go to Zurich.

The dirty secret of German FKKs is they exploit "Penny wise, Pound Foolish Mongers"; then add rude sharking as insult to injury.

I scanned 1000+ pages for searches of FKK posts; "bad LU, fatties, 5, 6, 7's shows up every page; I brought up this point in 2014 and the regulars all piled on that they are plenty of stunners /10's.

Well you saw with your eyes; any 10's list is usually circa 2010-2014.

Well that must of been in the glory days; same as glory days of Night Flight-RU and for that matter any "good old days" excuse.

I think its pretty obvious that the EU 50 30 min session buys you not much and that the CHF 140 GFE / FULL service of Zurich is looking more like a bargain!

Plenty of recycling happens between German FKK and Swiss clubs. Girls are going from here to there and from there to here.

Are they 5's in Germany and suddenly 10/ s in Swiss clubs? Did their looks and service change, or just the price?

[QUOTE=KaveMan;2046782]Your first loss is your best loss; Go to Zurich.

The dirty secret of German FKKs is they exploit "Penny wise, Pound Foolish Mongers"; then add rude sharking as insult to injury.

I scanned 1000+ pages for searches of FKK posts; "bad LU, fatties, 5, 6, 7's shows up every page; I brought up this point in 2014 and the regulars all piled on that they are plenty of stunners /10's.

Well you saw with your eyes; any 10's list is usually circa 2010-2014.

Well that must of been in the glory days; same as glory days of Night Flight-RU and for that matter any "good old days" excuse.

I think its pretty obvious that the EU 50 30 min session buys you not much and that the CHF 140 GFE / FULL service of Zurich is looking more like a bargain![/QUOTE]

YY,

Good job. Thank you for the details. Keep on doing. You are one of few who wrote excellent reports on Sharks forum. The other one I think is UncleOx, who also posted very readable reports about girls he met two weeks ago. I enjoyed reading them.

LOL.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2046480]Arrived at noon.

The purpose of today's fieldwork at Sharks is to go to a room with a girl only new to me for 50 E /30 min and confirm how many of girls will say OK to kiss and DATY.

1) Scarlett: 1300-1330 (50 E /30 min, 155 cm, long brown hair, fairly pretty, GND, slim, be-cup, started FKK Sharks this Feb. In a room, no kiss allowed just lip-to-lip greeting kiss only, caressing, 15 mint DATY with her possible cum, BBBJ, fetch of a rubber, 5 min cow-girl, and time's up. Repeat.

2) Melanie: 1415-1440,50 E /30 min, 22 yo, 170 cm, long brown hair, very pretty without glasses, model slim, 1. 5 year at Sharks. No kiss allowed even a greeting kiss, caressing, BBBJ, cow-girl, 15 min missionary with her almost cum, and time's up. Must repeat..[/QUOTE]

Jennifer is a very lovely girl in Sharks. She is a college student. See my report. I missed her very much.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2046482]2) Jenifer: 1500-1555,100 E /60 min (initially 50 E /30 min, but extended due to her pussy's condition), 18 yo, 165 cm, long platinum blonde (extension), fairly pretty, A-cup, waistless, muscular legs (football player) giving her squeeze-box. In a room LFK, BBBJ, cow-girl, my 40 min DATY with her big O, missionary, and break due to my junior's condition. Sorry to say, but I broke the 50 E /30 min rule to a new girl this time, but couldn't stop my licking while she was on the way to her orgasm. May repeat.

[/QUOTE][QUOTE=UncleOx;2039643]
.......
1). Jennifer, 18 yo Romanian blonde with Russian descent, college student.

I spent 5 hours with her on Friday. To me, She is very pretty. She somehow in appearance resembles Nicolette Hu, or Scarlett (Candy), or Alexandra Ro of LR. I noticed her been around for a while, but never had chance to take her to room. Early Friday afternoon, I saw her sitting alone. I approached her, She started to look at me. Her innocent blue eyes were full of desire. She spoke English very well. She told me she is 18-year-old and just started to work here. She planed to work for a few months to earn enough money to cover her next school year's cost. After knowing this, I felt sympathetic toward her, and thought it is my duty to help her business. In room, she was eager to please me. I can tell that she did try her best to make me comfortable. However she was too active to make me a little bit nervous. So I asked for a break in one hour, and promised to take her again in a longer session.

I came back to club at 19:00 and took her again. This time, she figured out way to make me relaxed, comfortable and horny. The whole process is full of affection and passion. I enjoyed that. The activity lasted almost two hours, we all were exhausted. She then went to bar to get drinks for me. She begged me to stay with her for another couple hours. After taking shower, we lay together to chat, fondle and kiss each other. She did give me a fantasy of backing to my college's romantic era. I asked why she put so much makeup. LOL. It was almost 23:00 when we left the room. Beautiful nice girl. Repeat absolutely..[/QUOTE]

Hi YamaYama,

Wow, you are so lucky to meet Sandra. She is top GFE in my list. However She didn't reply my text during my Sharks journey this time. I thought she might be retired. I am glad she Comes back.

Melanie was one of top girls in my list last year. However, she denied me this time as a vengeance for not taking her to room earlier. LOL.

I am glad the lovely and beautiful Steffi got business from you. We all should work together to save her in Sharks. After all. There are very few beauties in Sharks these days.

Finally, Bianca. A year ago, I chose her every time I visited Sharks. No any more since I met Nicolette. Now the Hungarian girl left (so sad), Bianca and I would gain rapprochemen, LOL.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2046484]Arrived at 11 am to see Sandra.

1) Sandra: 1115-1245,150 E /1. 5 h, the first time in the past 6 months. We'the made a promise yesterday to meet around 11 am today, and she was waiting for me at the bar. In a room we enjoyed DFK, gentle caressing, DATY with her first O, fingering DATY with her second, missionary with her third, fingering DATY with her fourth, missionary with her fifth and sixth, fingering DATY with her seventh and eighth as the last time, and then she began experiencing numerous cervical orgasms. What a horny girl she is! I massaged her for 25 min to calm her down. Must must repeat.
......

4) Melanie: 1800-1855 (excluding 5 min as tip), 100 E /1 h, the second time in this FKK tour. In a room DFK, caressing, 15 min DATY with her O, BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary without our O's, my massage on her. She was so beautiful without glasses in a room to be ought to repeat her.

5) Stefie: 2135-2235,100 E /1 h, the first time in the past 2 months. I found her at her home position of the bar, with no towel around her waist this time. In a room even no lip-to-lip kiss as usual, caressing, DATY with fingering leading her to O, BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie, missionary and my massage on her. Must repeat even without kiss!.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2046619]100% success rate once DATY initiated, LOL.Guess some gals just fake as a reward bc the guy DATY for 40 min.[/QUOTE]Not 100%. Someone should help Betty orgasm because she hasn't had one for the past one month, even my 40 min DATY didn't work.

[QUOTE=KaveMan;2046782]Your first loss is your best loss; Go to Zurich.

The dirty secret of German FKKs is they exploit "Penny wise, Pound Foolish Mongers"; then add rude sharking as insult to injury.

I scanned 1000+ pages for searches of FKK posts; "bad LU, fatties, 5, 6, 7's shows up every page; I brought up this point in 2014 and the regulars all piled on that they are plenty of stunners /10's.

Well you saw with your eyes; any 10's list is usually circa 2010-2014.

Well that must of been in the glory days; same as glory days of Night Flight-RU and for that matter any "good old days" excuse.

I think its pretty obvious that the EU 50 30 min session buys you not much and that the CHF 140 GFE / FULL service of Zurich is looking more like a bargain![/QUOTE]Germany is semi socialistic with welfare programs, I spoke with a girl a few days back that told me to works at FKK / non hooker and all tho it doesn't pay that well the govt pays for everything else in her life apt / health insurance etc for her and her 4 kids, in the USA it is much much more capitalistic the many of the girls are very very pretty because unless they want to live in the ghetto in public housing that's not an option, many have personality disorders so they can't find a sane man to take care of them or a good job, that's why you have all these romies, Romanian has no social programs like the west, and I'm guessing they can't get in the programs in Germany?

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2046858]Plenty of recycling happens between German FKK and Swiss clubs. Girls are going from here to there and from there to here.

Are they 5's in Germany and suddenly 10/ s in Swiss clubs? Did their looks and service change, or just the price?[/QUOTE]It is not recycling the girls are trying everything to earn as much money as possible before retiring from this job around 30 years old.

[QUOTE=KaveMan;2046782]Your first loss is your best loss; Go to Zurich.

The dirty secret of German FKKs is they exploit "Penny wise, Pound Foolish Mongers"; then add rude sharking as insult to injury.

I scanned 1000+ pages for searches of FKK posts; "bad LU, fatties, 5, 6, 7's shows up every page; I brought up this point in 2014 and the regulars all piled on that they are plenty of stunners /10's.

Well you saw with your eyes; any 10's list is usually circa 2010-2014.

Well that must of been in the glory days; same as glory days of Night Flight-RU and for that matter any "good old days" excuse.

I think its pretty obvious that the EU 50 30 min session buys you not much and that the CHF 140 GFE / FULL service of Zurich is looking more like a bargain![/QUOTE]I agree with you. Too many Cheap Charlies complaining. What you pay and your potential to pay influences what you get. How you act also helps. But demanding this or that for a set price gets you nowhere. A girl has to want to perform. Incentives help.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2046740]Angelina, known ironically by some as the Egyptian as she claims (with a degree of amused bravado) that as her origin. Looks exactly like a Romanian from a particular city: when she told me I had already guessed with 100% certainty.

Black hair, not the youngest, sits between the bar and the stairs to the jacuzzi area, facing it, often hunting, often very busy, figure is relatively slim, or maybe slightly fuller, but not fat or curvy..

Some people do not like her assertive approach, but I have no issues with it. I find her a bit of a change from the more recent influxes of workers in that their restrictive practices (in public display, and mechanical mercenariness) have not been fully adopted by Angelina.

She provides excellent service and has a very direct but sometimes perceptive way of talking. I think she respects clients who don't bullshit and who have some self respect. She may not suit someone looking for a long term emotional partner experiencing repeated orgasms in a club but is excellent at her job. Another girl told me that Angelina had a knack of being able to get men to finish who could not normally do so.That should be a good endorsement

My experience with her makes me think she deserves a good reputation.[/QUOTE]She approached me last week. I did not go with her because I found her too aggressive. She returned to me after I sessioned another girl and asked me why I would not go with her and I told her that it was because she lied to me and told me that she was from Egypt at which point she apologized and said she is from Romania. Now that it is stated that she provides good service I will try her as I find her a good alternative to the more Caucasian looking girls and attractive in her own way.

[QUOTE=Akibono;2046967]I agree with you. Too many Cheap Charlies complaining. What you pay and your potential to pay influences what you get. How you act also helps. But demanding this or that for a set price gets you nowhere. A girl has to want to perform. Incentives help.[/QUOTE]Not only money, but also manners and women knowledge help. Some girls like you make them cum, most of time in DATY, and really let you do, to finish to rub her clit on your tongue, press on your head, sometimes taking your fingers, and saying: thank you. More and more at the moment for my experiences, maybe I improved for Romanian or Moldavian or German pleasure. But I agree, such games need more than fast 50 €, but I prefer only 1 but enjoyable long time room, rather than rabbit fucking. Just have to find the pretty and classy GFE girl who worth the money. It works for me at the moment, even not in Hessen, with too many great girls to play with, around Dusseldorf, Basel and Zurich, before returning to Villach. At during my holidays, after bike climbing.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2046928]Not 100%. Someone should help Betty orgasm because she hasn't had one for the past one month, even my 40 min DATY didn't work.[/QUOTE]You didn't succeed to drink her juice? Better proof for me than fake noises, or also when girl doesn't let you touch more her clit, so I put her hands above her head, I kiss softly her clit, put my fingers from her inside in my mouth, then kiss her, and start to lick her again to get another one when she is still hot. Funny game to play with women body, without never forcing her. Often, they really want to give you pleasure, they seem happy when you enjoy.

Turgid. I found her good, but it may be she does not suit you. Sometimes I find a girl good and other people do not. If you decide she suits you, good luck.

Akibono.

The discussion starts again and again.

There are many many clubs where 50 gets good service. It is only in certain clubs where visitors and cultural influences have led to this 100 for everything culture.

Girls doing good service for 50 can have houses, cars, holidays, and so on.

The higher the entry level price set by the girls, the greater the disincentive to spend by customers.

Using pejorative terms like "cheap charlies" is not helpful. Maybe I should refer to " conned customers" for those paying inflated prices ?

Kaveman. If you want to go to Switzerland, fine. I'm sorry for you that you can't find decent service in Germany. Even in Sharks, there is good service for 50 if one is careful.

The problem in Germany is too much choice. , not too little.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2046734]Sade or Shadee is her name.

HB.[/QUOTE]Are there two Sade / Shade's? I kept getting hounded by a new Romanian girl with the name Shadee or Sadee.

One slender talllish good looking black girl was a Kenyan named Ellen. Her English is so so in my limited conversation with her. Quite pretty to me.

[QUOTE=KaveMan;2046782]Your first loss is your best loss; Go to Zurich.

The dirty secret of German FKKs is they exploit "Penny wise, Pound Foolish Mongers"; then add rude sharking as insult to injury.

I scanned 1000+ pages for searches of FKK posts; "bad LU, fatties, 5, 6, 7's shows up every page; I brought up this point in 2014 and the regulars all piled on that they are plenty of stunners /10's.

Well you saw with your eyes; any 10's list is usually circa 2010-2014.

Well that must of been in the glory days; same as glory days of Night Flight-RU and for that matter any "good old days" excuse.

I think its pretty obvious that the EU 50 30 min session buys you not much and that the CHF 140 GFE / FULL service of Zurich is looking more like a bargain![/QUOTE]Do you really believe everything that is written in the forums? Yes, it is better many guys will go to Switzerland and Austria so more choice for me. The girls are in the FKK to earn money as much as possible in the less stressing way. Sex, pleasure, orgasm is absolutely not their targets. If it is there why not but money is first and from far. Are you aware how many girls have a stable relation with a boyfriend, I can tell you it is a significant number. We buy the time and the dream that is all. Most of the girls know what we are looking for and they try to provide it. For me, FKK was never so interesting, just because over the years I learnt how to behave with the girls, and all this stories about services, 50 euros, condoms, AO just make me laughing because it is not really important, big FKK are not the cheapest way to get sex, if 50 euros more or less is so important I always advise the guys to go to the RLD.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2046917]Hi YamaYama,

Wow, you are so lucky to meet Sandra. She is top GFE in my list. However She didn't reply my text during my Sharks journey this time. I thought she might be retired. I am glad she Comes back.

Melanie was one of top girls in my list last year. However, she denied me this time as a vengeance for not taking her to room earlier. LOL.

I am glad the lovely and beautiful Steffi got business from you. We all should work together to save her in Sharks. After all. There are very few beauties in Sharks these days.

Finally, Bianca. A year ago, I chose her every time I visited Sharks. No any more since I met Nicolette. Now the Hungarian girl left (so sad), Bianca and I would gain rapprochemen, LOL.[/QUOTE]If You knew Melani who was looking like a real white snow, without glasses, when just arrived from Finca, sweet fresh GFE for our first room, and no upselling on end of 2015. I even returned for her on next week end, but not same GFE illusion and Megan / Francesca / Sara arrived from Mainhattan. No competition for me between them.

Steffi should be a superstar among Sharks GND, but even friendly girl, just worth for sex, no spark with her, no GFE illusion, so how many would repeat with her? Pity because one of the rare natural beauty at Sharks now, but too professional.

Steffi look with Sandra or Mandy behaviour, would be Hessen new superstar.

I never understood why blond Bianka always hide her ass under towel but topless, not so fat about what I saw even never went to her because of her so sad even pretty face, but I know some girls feel really uncomfortable being full naked in lounge, not only girls who have complex about their look.

Arrived at 11 am.

1) Daria: 1120-1210,100 E /1 h (because no kiss would be given for 50 E /30 min), the first time in the past 1. 5 years. In a room DFK, caressing, 23 min DATY with her silent O, 7 min BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary, unsuccessful CIM and pillow talk are what we enjoyed. May repeat.

2) Natalia: 1225-1305,100 E /1 h (because no kiss and no DATY would be given for 50 E /30 min), long black hair, 158 cm, petit, 3 years at Sharks, a friend of Daria. On an outdoor bed we enjoyed DFK, caressing, 15 min teasing DATY with her intense O, BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary, at 30 min mark, doggie and her playing with my dick. May not repeat.

3) Sorana: 1340-1435,100 E /1 h, the first time in the past one year at Oase as Natalia. On an outdoor bed DFK, caressing, 7 min DATY with her silent O, missionary, doggie, at 22 min mark, my second DATY with her second silent O, my massage on her and her good massage and me. Repeat.

4) Eliza: 1500-1520 (excluding 10 min as tip), 50 E /30 min, German, 30 yo, 165 cm, long blonde, fairly pretty, average figure. In a room we enjoyed DFK, caressing, 7 min DATY leading her to O, additional 3 min DATY, BBBJ and no intercourse due to my junior's condition. May repeat.

Left at 4 pm.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2047081]
Steffi should be a superstar among Sharks GND, but even friendly girl, just worth for sex, no spark with her, no GFE illusion, so how many would repeat with her? Pity because one of the rare natural beauty at Sharks now, but too professional.

Steffi look with Sandra or Mandy behaviour, would be Hessen new superstar.

I never understood why blond Bianka always hide her ass under towel but topless, not so fat about what I saw even never went to her because of her so sad even pretty face, but I know some girls feel really uncomfortable being full naked in lounge, not only girls who have complex about their look.[/QUOTE]Yes indeed Steffi wud be one of my favs if she provided GFE.

I also couldn't go with Bianka bc of her sad face outside the zimmer. I'm afraid what kind of face she will show me once inside the zimmer, LOL.

[QUOTE=KaveMan;2046782]Your first loss is your best loss; Go to Zurich.

The dirty secret of German FKKs is they exploit "Penny wise, Pound Foolish Mongers"; then add rude sharking as insult to injury.

I scanned 1000+ pages for searches of FKK posts; "bad LU, fatties, 5, 6, 7's shows up every page; I brought up this point in 2014 and the regulars all piled on that they are plenty of stunners /10's.

Well you saw with your eyes; any 10's list is usually circa 2010-2014.

Well that must of been in the glory days; same as glory days of Night Flight-RU and for that matter any "good old days" excuse.

I think its pretty obvious that the EU 50 30 min session buys you not much and that the CHF 140 GFE / FULL service of Zurich is looking more like a bargain![/QUOTE]Of course, high GFE level at Globe, Swiss Dietikon, History Basel Liestal. Lorena. Ro is an exceptional GF kissing so passionate on couch before room, all along for 1 hour in room, under shower after room and even sometimes at the bar after if you made her cum, so I paid 198 for about 1 h45 all along kissing with her, not more expensive than in Hessen. No upselling in Switzerland, extra even offered for 1 hour room for 178 at Swiss, I think I could be asked 200 in Hessen for same games.

Globe casting is not so exceptional since end of 2016 and I was said Bumsalp is lower than Globe, but can find really top girls for less expensive at History and Swiss.

At the moment, I could go with 8 top girls in NRW, at LR, GT, Aca and Samya, even I just lost superb Ina. Ro leaving Aca, but I wish to meet again at Wellcum later. I m not a 50 € guy, but no upselling from them, some extra games even offered, but I work hard to find and make them becoming my top girls. Today I receive a so surprising message from a busy superstar: I thought I was a devil, I didn't know I'm an angel now, at least for her.

Good time with good girls at the moment in NRW, but Switzerland also worth for GFE experiences.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2047144]4) Eliza: 1500-1520 (excluding 10 min as tip), 50 E /30 min, German, 30 yo, 165 cm, long blonde, fairly pretty, average figure. In a room we enjoyed DFK, caressing, 7 min DATY leading her to O, additional 3 min DATY, BBBJ and no intercourse due to my junior's condition. May repeat.[/QUOTE]A great girl. Entertaining to be with, pretty, and good service. My favorite Sharks girl. When my buddy sent me this photo I thought it was very similar to Eliza.

One of Siri's exes from years ago!

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2047230]A great girl. Entertaining to be with, pretty, and good service. My favorite Sharks girl. When my buddy sent me this photo I thought it was very similar to Eliza.

One of Siri's exes from years ago![/QUOTE]My ex? Where? But pretty face on photo if Eliza really looks like.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2047043]Are there two Sade / Shade's? I kept getting hounded by a new Romanian girl with the name Shadee or Sadee.

One slender talllish good looking black girl was a Kenyan named Ellen. Her English is so so in my limited conversation with her. Quite pretty to me.[/QUOTE]This is getting confusing. The tall Kenya girl I was thinking of is really tall, maybe 175 to 180 and is Naomi Campbell slim. She has good English and she gave her name as Grace, so apparently not Sade. A constant queue of customers. She left today: not sure when / if she is coming back.

Natalia. Ex of World and been in Sharks for maybe three years and has got more professional. I only went with her to renew acquaintance and to see how the years had progressed so I did only a 30 minute session. Despite having been a previous customer of hers, if a long time ago, the session didn't really take off. A lovely smile but something is missing. A definite no repeat.

Paloma. It's a long time since I met her, and I found the slight amount of extra weight suited her. She was really friendly and affectionate with me.

Mandy and Sandra (sitting by the dining room) were both there and both highly recommended but I didn't manage to catch either.

Diana, the very slim, superb body, light brown straight hair, by the fishtank, delights me with her laugh and sense of humour (there are not many people who gain my affection by saying I am ugly). In the room she responded really well, skilful and passionate. I am not sure if she kisses: normally it is a deal breaker for me but somehow my interest got focused elsewhere. She is I think, quite an open person, judging by some things which happened in the room. I know she gets poor reviews, but I would like to give her another try.

I don't think Diana does kiss or even DFK. So she made you compliments. Nice of her.

HB.

Betty, 20 years, now wearing glasses, sits by fishtank. I repeated almost nonstop over five days with Betty. Her joke, and that of an ISG comrade, is that she has control of my wallet.

She can be a really passionate session, matching the top ones I've ever had. In some respects the most so. Technique wise and focus wise she is not a professional, and behaves like a non-working girl.

Effervescent, great fun, but also a very shy person, and also someone with a lot on her mind. So very interesting.

She specialises in East asian ethnicity customers and is reluctant to take loud or large people. Quiet and safe.

She is definitely a limited service for 50 girl, but I met her when she was at Finca, so never experienced this.
An unusually strong focus on the next 50 euro note and reluctance to offer new customers more than the minimum

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2047305]I don't think Diana does kiss or even DFK. So she made you compliments. Nice of her.

HB.[/QUOTE]I think you are right, thanks. Her "compliments" to me were a riposte to something I said to her: I think I said she was useless at sex. All done with good humour and grace: she handled it well.

But as PL says, I'm not sure she's worth the risk unless she agrees to kiss

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2047305]I don't think Diana does kiss or even DFK. So she made you compliments. Nice of her.

HB.[/QUOTE]There are reports of that service around. Is this a more of a common agreement by regulars? For me, I couldn't find a reason to chance it with her as the interaction was not the best, and I've tried girls not the friendliest, and for me vibes was totally off with how she marketed to me. If you can imagine.

Patricia. Blonde, silicone, well attired with an under the boob bra. Only did one session but she was as good as in my previous ones. Very gentle and attentive. I enjoyed her company but didn't quite click. I think that was because she was working so hard to get to know me and I was a bit uncommitted.

For me definitely a repeat, provided I stop being uncommitted.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2047308]I think I said she was useless at sex. [/QUOTE]You were quite right.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2047312]You were quite right.

HB.[/QUOTE] :) Actually she turned out better than I expected: good blow job, and good DATY.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2047308]I think you are right, thanks. Her "compliments" to me were a riposte to something I said to her: I think I said she was useless at sex. All done with good humour and grace: she handled it well.

But as PL says, I'm not sure she's worth the risk unless she agrees to kiss[/QUOTE]For me not. I was proposed 1 HR for that service right away without much interation, but I know based on experience when this happens it's a crapshoot of delivery. It's possible a girl that is not capable of GFE do this to lock in 1 HR.

It's most realistic for me to see how well she provides, and determine if worth the extension or not. Not the other way around.

If I take the proposal, it's basically going in blind with double the loss.

Nice breezy day in the yard, with BBQ going again, ran into Mandy for a nice session, and I left early.

I'm running low on energy, so I need to get some energy back, I guess I'm getting old?

And I'm still adjusting to all the time zones I crossed, today was a nice quiet day at sharks.

It was my best day so far there (of 5 so far), call me crazy but I like it when there aren't a trillion horny dudes all over the place.

I just don't like crowds anywhere but especially not in clubs.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2047314]
It's most realistic for me to see how well she provides, and determine if worth the extension or not. Not the other way around.

If I take the proposal, it's basically going in blind with double the loss.[/QUOTE]I think your approach is correct. To me a WG is a saleswoman, so the onus is on her to court me or impress me. Not the other way around. BUT. Good luck with your approach in Hessen! Your expectations are too high especially for a top earning Hessen WG in 2017.

Romanians have a natural distrust, because they are accustomed to people trying to scam them back home. The WG could give the guy the "wedding night experience" in the first 30 minutes, and the guy could just bail without extending. Nobody likes to be taken advantage of.

To get the wedding night in first 30 minutes, you need to be a known high-roller. PL, you have to build up your "club credibility". Be like Optimist and take a WG non-stop for five days.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2047302]Mandy and Sandra (sitting by the dining room) were both there and both highly recommended but I didn't manage to catch either.[/QUOTE]Do you mean that they were busy all day, or pre-booked a lot? Even on a Monday?

Also, since they are often mentioned in the same breath, do you have any idea if they ever work as a team?

I can't be the first one to have this thought.

Spent 4 days at Sharks last week. Already several posters have uploaded excellent reports, comments, attendee lists, and so on in the recent few days. Optimist has been giving us a real time short and sweet dailies, The incomparable Yama Yama has given a list of "girls he sessioned with", which is longer than any "girls seen" list I can conjure, and so on. I debated if there is any value in me adding my own 2 c and decided why not. Sorry, it's too long (bandwidth waste as some would say) but hopefully for most of us, the cost of a few additional text strings will not exceed a small fraction of a penny.

As Optimist said already, male attendance was down a bit. As usual, girls always complain that guys are not taking enough sessions, they are only there to sit, relax, eat and sauna, (and when there is football on TV, that gets to the top of the blame list). I don't know if there is any reliable quantitative data on these things. Was there a time girls were complaining guys took too many sessions? That said, there was hardly any time I saw room waits, if that is one indication.

BadInsweet said he is down on Sharks these days because a couple of his top favs were MIA, and since one half of his fav list coincides with mine, I have to nod my head in sympathy. I normally look forward to these FKK visits with a huge amount of enthusiasm and anticipation and get more nervous by the day as the trip nears. However, on this trip, after Wednesday night, I was somewhat disappointed with the girls in the club, a bad session, and perhaps some other overhang. But in a moment of foolishness, I got online, paid a travel change fee and cut short the return visit to US by a day. I deeply rued this rashness by day 3, but by then I had already incurred several hundred dollar loss in fare changes, penalties, hotel rents prepaid etc, so I didn't make a reversal. As a result, I missed out on Regina, which was the biggest downside of this mistake.

However, while a handful of favorite girls were missing, I doubt that overall girls' roster was any smaller than in March. My guess is, many girls are working till July 1 and then waiting to see what happens, to obtain papers, etc. Perhaps there will be fewer girls from July? We will see. I am a bit more surprised why more men are not there and why they are not sessioning more. I would have thought men would be rushing to avail of the BBBJ while still legal, but perhaps men of Main Street are not fully caught up on this issue as men of ISG?

The weather was mostly gorgeous, the food was adequate as usual, the barbecue was brought out in Saturday and done well. The music selection as usual sucked. I spent altogether 50 hrs in the club over 4 days, and Despacido played roughly every 20 min? Math is not my forte, but you can compute how many times I heard it. Whatever that number n is, my view is that it was n+1 times too many. I envy the locals having access to all that pussy whenever they fancy, but I don't envy the collateral damage of having to put up with the lousy music deck of the club. Come on Sharks, how difficult is to hook up the stereo to Spotify or Pandora or something else?

So, I was sitting at the bar on early Friday afternoon, fresh in the club after a poor night's sleep and sipping my first coffee of the day while surveying the girls. This girl comes sit next to me, just got in the club herself. I guess it is her usual spot, being the Hungarian quarters and all. Name is Regina (I think Bitumen and others have reviewed her favorably in the past, so she is a known quantity to the experts here but was new to me). Cute smiling face. Some chit chat; Not blown away by the first look. Anyhoo, her English is pretty limited, but she has a bubbly personality. She is in no rush and doesn't push for a room at all. After about 15 minutes of fitful conversation, I said Ok, let's go. We head into the small kino converted glass mirror cubicle. I like these rooms, can feel claustrophobic and dingy at times but also quite intimate and the mirrors enhance that feeling. That was the first of four sessions on Friday. Oh my! Thank you, thank you, and thank you My man in the heavens. She is everything I wanted in my FKK life and more. Ok, if she spoke better English it would have been better, but this was as near perfection as it could be for me; who Is perfect anyway? The only thing I am perfectly good at is getting scratched by my mentally unstable cat.

But First, I will get the negative out of the way. She has a medium dose of vitiligo. She has a discoloration around pussy lips and also around nipples. Some tiny dots on face too, but for a oldster like me with fading eyesight and in the darkness of the club, face color is no problem. Is she as classically beautiful as Tatiana or some other girls? No. But she brings huge dollops of vivacity, spunkiness, a genuine zest for sex, and sheer youthfulness into a perfect concoction. Her blowjob skills belie her young age and are far superior to most other gals. Her kissing is passionate, genuine, and sweet, and her pussy is tight. In other words, the mechanics check out. Tits are nice and soft and more than a mouthful for me. Nice round bum, not too big but a nice dose of subcutaneous baby fat, fanstastic for cuddling, kneading, and yes a playful spanking. If you are old perv, which I am, The perfect FKK session is one which rekindles that lost youth, to feel alive again, just feel silly and good for just existing and being. That's what Regina does to me. She is full of life and very much in the moment, and with her so am I, transported to the here and now. "I don't need too much sleep" she tells me because "I would rather be living than sleeping". Then she goes onto intone that she loves sex. And I can vouch for that, even if I am no Yama Yama that can give her six orgasms in an hour. This is no womanly woman of Sirioja. As contraire, she is 20 who acts like 18 or 17. In some ways, her personality reminded me of the early Aylice, although where Aylice was slightly more demure, Regina was more of an eager participant in the mutual sex game to follow. Her laugh is no fake laugh, but is a teenager giggle, mirthful and infectious. How quickly those hours passed. Spent in a continuous cascade of sexual positions and actions. I can't ever imagine getting tired of that body, making love to that face. Oh did I mention, she is no prude? She is as happy with public sex as I am. We fucked with abandon on my beloved red couches late Friday night, and she starts giggling when some other couple show up. I once fucked Romena on the same couch and when I turned my head to watch the couple on the adjoining couch, Romena chided me "don't look baby, not nice". Well sir, that happily is not our little Regina. As I was passionately kissing her, I perked up head to see what the other couple is doing, and she whispers to me "are they fucking"? And when I say yes, she eagerly looks up to watch with as much interest as me if not more! A woman after my heart finally.

Like an ass, which I truly am, I forgot to make a proper appointment with her for Saturday, my final day in the club. As I got into the club at 3 PM and settling into my spot, I saw her in the distance at the bar. I was about to make my way to her, but then some other dude swooped in, and that was the end of it. It was an endless chain of long sessions, dudes passing her to their mates as in some sort of primal group mating ritual, and me hating myself for not being smarter. One particularly cruel miss happened when I perched myself on the Janine couch determined to catch her as she came out of dressing room, but some uberaggressive poacher snatched her standing right next to the closest money locker. Fate, you are such a heartless bit$ch! I finally got hold of her for one last session at 2:30 AM, for a final two hour romp. She was inebriated to the full, and still grabs another vodka on the way to the room. She is spaced out a few times, with a slight glaze in her eyes. But the sex is as joyful as ever, and her tired but still exquisite body as scrumptuous as a fresh daisy. Near 4 AM, she finally coaxes, cajoles and literally vacuums one final burst of fluid from my little man. As I lay there, breathing harder than Michael Phelps after his 100 meter dash, she stands above my head, gently dancing and swaying to some favorite song of hers while still fully sloshed and in half stupor. The lewd display of her sex, the sheer wanton celebration of her sexuality, and total exuberance for life. This was one of the most beautiful visions These eyes had ever witnessed. I knew then that I had six to seven hours of the best sex in my life and the lord is merciful and cruel at the same time because I had to leave and never knowing if I will see her again. As I paid her and bade her goodbye, and with me rushing to the airport, she gave me a deep, soul sucking kiss for three minutes. And as she goes into the lockers and I am heading into mine, she calls me back, and gives me another two minutes of deep kiss. I am sure I did some good deeds in life sometime ago to deserve such luck.

Magda. Sweet little Magda. She is forever my bridesmaid. In reality, I took four sessions with her in this trip. So, she was slightly behind Regina on that count but not by much. Magda is a cute girl, a body which I love with the perfectly smallish perky tits that drive me crazy, a cute baby face, perfectly beautiful Bonnie blue eyes, and a mischievous smile. So, I then ask myself why is she not my top girl?! She just seems to lack that little X factor. If Clara Bow was the "it" girl, Magda would unfortunately be the "no it" girl of FKK. Her kissing is deep and genuine, and he BJ skills are competent if not superstar level. I took several sessions with her in my prior trip in March, so as I just walked into the club on Wednesday evening, I ran into her right upfront, and she lit up like a light bulb in anticipation of more sessions of course. Unfortunately, I grabbed Jennifer first, and walked right in front of Magda, which must have upset her initially, but I made up and spent a good amount of time with her that evening and more in the days to follow. In one session, she brought her younger cousin Linda for a threesome after me and Magda went at it for a while. That was the closest I ever came to fucking two sisters in a session, so that bucket item list is now partially scratched, LOL. The threesome itself was quite enjoyable, with the cousins alternately blowing and fucking me, and I finally dumped myself into Linda (or the condom that separated me from Linda, to be more clinical) while Magda was kissing me deeply.

Dina. After not knowing Dina forever, I finally met her. Quite surprising, as I have going to Sharks for nearly four or five years now, and she likewise has been at the club for just as long. I vaguely recall seeing her but definitely never talked. She was busy as expected but I waited patiently and she finally met me and moved upstairs for an hour long session. I think I would characterize it as a good session. She is a bit older now I guess but still a very beautiful young woman, charming, sophisticated, and sure of herself. I realize Dina is a very well known girl here, and many punters here are long standing customers of hers, so I have zero value add here I am sure. For myself, I can say I enjoyed the session but could not climax, as is my wont in the majority of my sessions. Nevertheless, it was a pleasure to finally meet and fuck the Sharks Princess as someone called her here, as I recall.

Jennifer. This is a new girl in the club. Claims she is 18. Rom, ofc. Long blonde hair with extensions. Pretty face. Very small tits. She was covered up and sitting on the couch across from the bar on the far side. She was my first session of this trip. As I had already seen and said a brief Hi to Magda, one of my favorites, I was uncertain that I would take someone else for my first session. But when I quickly looked around, Magda was nowhere to be seen, and I told myself that I would take Jennifer for a short spin and then bring her back to do a session with Magda. Wrong! The session went for an hour and half. Surprisingly I could not finish. I hadn't had any sex, any finish in fact, in ten days, and normally I shoot out of the gates like Usain Bolt in my first session of the trip. Jennifer's skills are pretty top notch. She kept pushing herself to provide DFK, although I was not sure. Wanted or needed it from her and kept mouth closed partially. Her BJ is good, and BLS is even better and very generous and copiously provided. In fact, it is hard to find any fault with any of her skill sets. I suspect she covers herself because she may be conscious about her small tits, and also slightly bulging tummy, although she is quite skinny on the whole. Although she claims she has been at Sharks for a very short time, she seems to have quite a few clients. Still, for whatever reason, I never repeated with her in the next 3+ days. Not a reflection on her, but an indictment of my own failing stamina.

Chia. Like the chee chee chee chia pet in the commercial; sits at the what I used to think of the German table, on the near side adjoining the cafeteria. Friends with Sara, Emma etc. Very cute face, nice smile. Body is very nice as well, although she seems to wear garters most of the time and I never got to see her fully milky white flesh in its glory, not even during our session. I was a bit tired and it was late on my first night, and I wanted to go home but needed another session under my belt, so went and grabbed her due solely to her looks. Not even a 30 sec interview before the room; just "are you busy now? Ok, lets go then". Well, most of the time, such sessions never go well for me, and neither did this one. She was definitely more snarky than most of my girls in the trip, and quite reserved and less friendly. Her beauty makes up for many of her service oriented shortcomings, but not fully. In the end, left the room somewhat disappointed, and swore to my self that I needed to follow the discipline in girls selection or else sessions could be duds as this one was.

Stefani - 21 year old Stefani has a body which is close to my perfect spec. Tiny, small tits, no fat, cute face, smiling broadly, just well proportioned in a small frame. I had fucked her twice in March, once on the red couches in one of the more exciting sessions I had at Sharks with another couple fucking less than two feet from us in some sort of foursome session. So, I kept looking for her and finally located her on my second day of clubbing. She recognized me, but we could not use the red couches in Thursday and hence made out in a more mundane room. Still, for some reason, maybe because her size fits well with me or what, but I seem to become more aggressive and testosterone filled when fucking her from behind, and banged away for nearly 20 min in that one position alone. She took it like a pro, we changed more positions, and oh BTW, her blow job skills are quite good for a girl with such a tiny mouth. She is an unabashed up seller and I still seem to find sessions with her enjoyable and have no difficulty to rebuff her upsells and get what I want from the session. Which in her case, is continuous banging.

Sara. I had a vague recollection of a prior session with Sara in March which I thought was ok at that time. I was a bit down at losing out on Regina. The club, which was as dead as the Venezuelan economy for most of the time, was suddenly perked up and good girls were getting grabbed just as I was surveilling them on Saturday night. Just as I was about to make a move on a couple of girls, someone swooped in and grabbed them away. So, in my frustration, I said Yes to Sara when she asked me. She is a nice girl, has a nice smiling face, and kept waving to me and saying Hi and other things for the prior 3+ days. In the room though, she was more business-like, and provided just an adequate service, and no more. I don't need DFK anyway unless a special girl which she was not, but she said she doesn't do BLS unless it is one hour session. I said that's fine with me. But she herself said she could not do one hour because, (get this, this is the first time I heard this excuse) she said she gets together with her gal pals at midnight / Saturday and drinks champagne. Alright then. So, she wraps up the session in 20 min, because she blatantly cheated on the clock by approx 5 min and then claimed I was not going to finish in the next 5 min anyway. She kept smiling all through however, and had a very friendly attitude and kept calling me my dear. So, this is just how she is?! I have to say, she does have a very cute face, and her language skills are pretty good. Think she said she is half German half Dutch. Will give her a Bminus.

Selene. This is a cute, petite spinner (from Rom ofc). Almost half Asian looking face. New to the club she says, and even new to the profession? Anyway, she approached me on one of the days and I said OK after a short conversation. She has a real tight bod, which I find quite attractive. Took her to the same cubicle in which I had fucked Regina earlier. Her service is truly impeccable. Thoroughly enjoyable blow job with plenty of spit circling around in her mouth, and tons of slow swirling tongue action. Reminded me a bit about the blow job of Milana, although that's high praise and Selene is not a Milana yet. I didn't try DFK with Selene, and not sure if it is on offer for 50. But given the kind of blow job and BLS she provided, and the nice languid fuck in a couple of positions, I would not be surprised if she does provide DFK in 50. And this is also a reminder to those naysayers that 50/30 is dead as mackerel. No people, you just have to be smart and diligent and look for the real gems out there. I would have kept going to one hour, but was in a hurry to get back to Regina, so made this a half HR show with Selene; probably a mistake, that. Infinitely better than Sara, for sure.

Patricia. She is half Rom and half Italian? Or full Rom but has spent a lot of time in Italy. Doesn't matter. She speaks both languages, and I think she speaks a few more. Very pretty girl, model like. Taller than my usual spec, but very tight body, blondish streaks although naturally dark haired, small tits. Has a big tat down one thigh as I recall. I met her for the first time in March but don't think sessioned with her back then (god, before I discovered FKKs, I could count all the women I fucked in my life with one hand, now I am so blas I can't even remember if I had fucked a girl when I see her face. Boy, I have arrived in life, Yoo-hoo). I was in the kino mirror cubicle mood that day, this was immediately preceding or post the coitus with Selene, and while her service was not as good as Selene, she is still a nice girl and clearly more of an eye candy. I would bang her anyday, and be happy about it.

Sabina Catalina. I hadn't sessioned with Catalina since she moved to Sharks. My one session with her was in Oase kino one night, where she kept singing a song on the mic while she was riding me cowgirl <grin . She, ahem, has special skills, or so I recalled. Skilz as in EriCarlaCindy category, with her pussy muscles. Did I recall this incorrectly? Not sure. I had several sessions on Saturday, (but not yet with Regina due to my own idiocy as I wrote above) and I had not yet cummed. I was like a old bull in heat (is there such a thing? Badly needing a relief, I approached Catalina, who of course had zero recollection of our Oase fuck two year prior (shocked and hurt that she couldn't remember my one fuck out of the ten million she had done in the previous four years). We went to my red couches. This of course is my sanctuary, the place which cures my "finish" problems. And the girl who fucked me in full view of a couple of dozen men and girls in Oase kino clearly had zero shyness problems fucking me on couches with no one in sight. Still, the combination of her tight pussy, the few guys and girls who were always walking on the way to the VIP rooms and taking a peek at us, and her tight body and cute looks and my own horniness after not finishing in prior 4 sessions meant I finally made a money shot. Took me an hour to do it, but got there. One thing I like about Catalina is that she has an absolutely smooth, baby bottom which is also surprisingly small. Both her butt cheeks almost fit into my one palm. I love to press on that bum with one hand as we were fucking, and that bottom feels so good in my hand. That's what I call friendly butts with benefits.

Some other random musings and extremely hazardous idle gossip.

Mr Young Turk is still not in. Oh well.

Janine. For once, her Prince Charming is not in. Is the deal broken? She is still not doing any rooms, far as I could see. I tried to breach her Berlin defense with my Ruy Lopez, but she had castled early and well protected by her two bishops (or are they rooks? Could not tell). I still thought about making a pawn sacrifice to get to her queen, but then I watched a Asian dude rebuffed with extreme rudeness ("are you busy Janine?" "YEAH" I wondered: economists talk about output gap of nations when their GDP is well below their theoretical optimal max, and if I applied the same notion, Janine Inc is operating at an extreme output gap for years on. Ofc. Economists also assume market participants are rational beings. Oops.

Steffi. Is she the Romanian version of Janine? Seriously, I have watched her one day from basically her begin to close. I normally sit by the waterfall (splash Keeps my back cool) and with the additional benefit of watching Steffi's very desirable butt crack on a near constant basis: she no longer wraps herself in towel like she used to; but seriously, she sits there and yucks it up. No walking around, no nothing. Does a room here and there, basically enough to cover the cover? I saw one Asian dude beg her for nearly an hour, she was laughing at his jokes, was having a good time, and he kept pulled her hand to go to a room but she would pull it back. I have heard of home buyers begging sellers to sell to them and baking them cookies etc in red hot Silicon Valley housing market, but I haven't seen guys begging workings girl to let them buy booty. Hmm. If I had to beg for an hour to shag for an hour, I would think that's extremely poor ROI.

I saw Sandra on Thursday afternoon as I entered the club but she had an appointment. Was it you YY that cock blocked me, LOL. She said she would be in on Friday, and I was originally planning to attend Oase on either Friday or Sat but chose to come to Sharks on Friday for Sandra (never found her; don't think she was in) and she was not in on Saturday either. Didn't see Mandy, but then again she works Sunday to a Wednesday usually??

Sharks food is fattening. To someone like myself who remembers the girls because I see them fairly regularly, but don't see them too often because I attend just every three months or so, I can clearly see the ever increasing bulges around the midriff. Happens to 70% of them. Sorry to observe this in fact. Few girls ever slim down, Sandra being one of the few I think (she looked like she lost some weight, in the brief glimpse I got of her).

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2047326]Be like Optimist and take a WG non-stop for five days.[/QUOTE]I've been known to do that at the end of a trip. .

Like sampling 6 taster spoons of ice cream and then buying a triple scoop of your favourite afterwards.

Fabulous report!

Very interesting we might have similar taste that we chose girls in such a high degree of coincidence, LOL.

During my six days Sharks journey in mid-May, I had gone with 12 Sharks girls.

1) - Amalia, 20 yo, RO, 6 hours.

2) - Jennifer, 18 yo, RO, 5 hours.

3) - Steffi, 23 yo, RO, 3 hours.

4) - Dina, 27 yo, Hu, 2 hours.

5) - Vivien, 27 yo, RO, 3 hours.

6) - Regina, 20 yo, Hu, 1 hour.

7) - Magda, 20 yo, RO, 1 hour.

8) - Tessa, 20 yo, De, 1 hour.

9) - Sonia, 21 yo, RO, 1 hour.

10) -Elizabeth, 35 yo, RO, 0.5 hour.

11) -Lavinia, 23 yo, RO, 0.5 hour.

12) -Esther or Ester, 24 yo, RO, 0.5 hour.

My only regret was I didn't have enough time to spend with above girls. I did promise to give Magda, Esther, Lavinia and Elizabeth one more hour each. But in my last two days in Sharks, I couldn't even find them. I'd like to offer Tessa a four-hour-session, however she was not available. I promised to offer Dina, Regina, Steffi more sessions, but it didn't work at all. An there were large numbers of my favs missing this time: Sandra, Nicolette, Anja, Rebecca, Bianca, Leana, Gloriana, Megan, Helli, Mina, etc. Melanie came the last day I was in Sharks but she rejected me due to my failure of taking her earlier.

My next trip would be in late July or August. Hopefully could see those beautiful creatures soon.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2047332]Spent 4 days at Sharks last week. Already several posters have uploaded excellent reports, comments, attendee lists, and so on in the recent few days. Optimist has been giving us a real time short and sweet dailies, The incomparable Yama Yama has given a list of "girls he sessioned with", which is longer than any "girls seen" list I can conjure, and so on. I debated if there is any value in me adding my own 2 c and decided why not. Sorry, it's too long (bandwidth waste as some would say) but hopefully for most of us, the cost of a few additional text strings will not exceed a small fraction of a penny.

As Optimist said already, male attendance was down a bit. As usual, girls always complain that guys are not taking enough sessions, they are only there to sit, relax, eat and sauna, (and when there is football on TV, that gets to the top of the blame list). I don't know if there is any reliable quantitative data on these things. Was there a time girls were complaining guys took too many sessions? That said, there was hardly any time I saw room waits, if that is one indication.

BadInsweet said he is down on Sharks these days because a couple of his top favs were MIA, and since one half of his fav list coincides with mine, I have to nod my head in sympathy. I normally look forward to these FKK visits with a huge amount of enthusiasm and anticipation and get more nervous by the day as the trip nears. However, on this trip, after Wednesday night, I was somewhat disappointed with the girls in the club, a bad session, and perhaps some other overhang. But in a moment of foolishness, I got online, paid a travel change fee and cut short the return visit to US by a day. I deeply rued this rashness by day 3, but by then I had already incurred several hundred dollar loss in fare changes, penalties, hotel rents prepaid etc, so I didn't make a reversal. As a result, I missed out on Regina, which was the biggest downside of this mistake..[/QUOTE]

That is one massive 4 day report there jnpr!

I just did sharks on Wednesday. It was a good day.

1. Aksena (bul) is a petite brunette looker with a stunning body and pretty face. But no kissing. Pure optifuck, but good chemistry nontheless. Can't recall if she tried to upsell for kissing or not.

2. Alexia (rom). Hot girl, but she looked a bit tired, and not in as good mood and great shape as last fall. A good girl, but chemistry was better last fall. Not sure why. She used to be one of my favourites.

3. Marlyn (phi). She was exceptional this day and really stands out with her sex hunger. I think she truly enjoys this work in an honest way and just works for fun. Really an incredible girl. Fucks me just as much, or more than I fuck her.

[QUOTE=MrCrankyPants;2047328]Do you mean that they were busy all day, or pre-booked a lot? Even on a Monday?[/QUOTE]Yes, they were busy most of the day. I saw them prowling a few times, but they were quickly snapped up. Hardly saw them seated for long. I managed to get sessions with each of them though, as they recognised me and approached me. Those whom they did not know would have had to quickly intercept them once they emerged from the locker to have had any chance yesterday.

If you read MarquisdeSade's post below, he has already had a session with Mandy today, Tuesday 13 June, even though it is barely 7 am! That is how busy she will be today.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2046487] Kami: 10 min DATY with her big O. Melanie: 20 min "teasing" DATY with her very intense O. Dorothea: 25 min DATY with her four apparent orgasms, 15 min missionary with her three apparent O's, 20 min DATY with her five apparent O's. Anabella: 20 min DATY leading her intense O [/QUOTE]Come down to reality, man! These hundreds of prostitutes you gave an O know exactly how to act and to make you feel good.

It may happen from time to time, but do not forget that you are in a brothel.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2047326] The WG could give the guy the "wedding night experience" in the first 30 minutes, and the guy could just bail without extending. Nobody likes to be taken advantage of.

[/QUOTE]I don't see this as being taken advantage of as the guy still have to pay her 50 e.

Good service providers will gain good reputation, regulars, etc.

This 1 HR rule is rly off-putting even though I don't mind doing 1 hrs. Guess many locals are migrating to other clubs or just don't go to the room at all, LOL.

PL. Agree totally about Diana. Some girls just don't have a GFE experience in them, even for an hour.

McAdonis. Yes, my approach has big advantages as you say. But maybe even bigger disadvantages: it limits the time and money to get a good sample of the best girls. Also, one gets a fairly real GFE experience in that the girl shows her true moods, which can include being depressed. As with everything, plus and minuses. Reading Jnpr's report I am very conscious of the minuses!

Jnpr. Great report. Sorry not to meet you.If only because you could have led me to Regina :)

TankTank. Can't believe I didn't see you!!

[QUOTE=Optimist;2047505]TankTank. Can't believe I didn't see you!![/QUOTE]Optimist, I read your travel announcement very carefully last week. I believe it said Dusseldorf on Monday, which was why I did not send you a PM to meet at Sharks on Monday. Glad that you have reconnected with Betty. I guess you had finished with her by 8 pm as she tried to grab me around that time, but I was already too exhausted by then to take her as I do not have Yama Yama's stamina.

Sorana tried to get me when arrived. I liked her cute new bun on top. I told her I had to have lunch first, but after my meal, she had disappeared. I have just read that Yama Yama had at that time whisked her to the garden to silent-O her twice! Well and good then that I did not see her again after that as she would have been a spent force after all the silent-Os.

TT. Yes, my plans changed. Betty was on a break from me at 8. 00 as I was changing accommodation booking. Betty had not had any silent Os :D

[QUOTE=Optimist;2047518]Betty had not had any silent Os :D[/QUOTE]Optimist, that was evident from the frustration expressed by Yama Yama in reporting about his session with Betty. But he said that he was going to keep trying till he succeeds. So it might be just very shrewed tactics on Betty's part to get more business from him just by depriving him the silent-Os.

I believe I did succeed yesterday in silent-Oting Mandy; but unlike Yama Yama, I can't be sure. Maybe just 90% there, or was it 80%, or 70%? Some techie needs to invent a silent-Ometer for us to be sure! Yama Yama would certainly then purchase one to put beside his stop watch.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2047332]Spent 4 days at Sharks last week. Already several posters have uploaded excellent reports, comments, attendee lists, and so on in the recent few days. Optimist has been giving us a real time short and sweet dailies, The incomparable Yama Yama has given a list of "girls he sessioned with", which is longer than any "girls seen" list I can conjure, and so on. I debated if there is any value in me adding my own 2 c and decided why not. Sorry, it's too long (bandwidth waste as some would say) but hopefully for most of us, the cost of a few additional text strings will not exceed a small fraction of a penny.

As Optimist said already, male attendance was down a bit. As usual, girls always complain that guys are not taking enough sessions, they are only there to sit, relax, eat and sauna, (and when there is football on TV, that gets to the top of the blame list). I don't know if there is any reliable quantitative data on these things. Was there a time girls were complaining guys took too many sessions? That said, there was hardly any time I saw room waits, if that is one indication.

BadInsweet said he is down on Sharks these days because a couple of his top favs were MIA, and since one half of his fav list coincides with mine, I have to nod my head in sympathy. I normally look forward to these FKK visits with a huge amount of enthusiasm and anticipation and get more nervous by the day as the trip nears. However, on this trip, after Wednesday night, I was somewhat disappointed with the girls in the club, a bad session, and perhaps some other overhang. But in a moment of foolishness, I got online, paid a travel change fee and cut short the return visit to US by a day. I deeply rued this rashness by day 3, but by then I had already incurred several hundred dollar loss in fare changes, penalties, hotel rents prepaid etc, so I didn't make a reversal. As a result, I missed out on Regina, which was the biggest downside of this mistake..[/QUOTE]It is not the food which is making the girl gaining some weight, it is the long days, sitting on the bar, smoking, doing nothing except getting bored by waiting potential customers.

Unfortunately I did not time record the occurrence of Betty's non-silent Os :D

I have this picture of the girls lined up like cattle in stalls in order to be serviced for Os. LOL. I prefer free range.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2047332]...I saw Sandra on Thursday afternoon as I entered the club but she had an appointment. Was it you YY that cock blocked me, LOL... [/QUOTE]No, that wasn't me. My session with Sandra began at 11:15 and ended at 12:45 on Thrusday.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2047523]...that was evident from the frustration expressed by Yama Yama in reporting about his session with Betty. But he said that he was going to keep trying till he succeeds. So it might be just very shrewed tactics on Betty's part to get more business from him just by depriving him the silent-Os....[/QUOTE]Betty's O is so intense that anybody can recognize it. LOL

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2016278]Betty: 2130-2230 for E100 and E30 for covered fingering, semi-short black hair, much shorter than her cousin, Vivian, A-cup, pretty. In a room LFK, caressing, my erotic massage on her tits, DATY with her wiggling three times, contracting five times and final intensive O, missionary, covered 30-Euro fingering without success because her cum is just once a day, my 15 min massage. I got surprised that Betty and Vivian show the same reaction during sex as Juicy and Laura at Oase do. Repeat[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2047484]I don't see this as being taken advantage of as the guy still have to pay her 50 e.

Good service providers will gain good reputation, regulars, etc.

This 1 HR rule is rly off-putting even though I don't mind doing 1 hrs. Guess many locals are migrating to other clubs or just don't go to the room at all, LOL.[/QUOTE]I have been visiting Sharks for the past two weeks and so far all my sessions have been 1/2 hr /50 e and all except one have been reasonably good. I have decided not to break my rule of not sessioning girls who request 1 hr or 100 e 1/2 hr sessions. I will continue agreeing to 1/2 hr 50 e and extending the session according to her performance in the room or tipping for exceptional 1/2 hr sessions.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2047564]I have been visiting Sharks for the past two weeks and so far all my sessions have been 1/2 hr /50 e and all except one have been reasonably good. I have decided not to break my rule of not sessioning girls who request 1 hr or 100 e 1/2 hr sessions. I will continue agreeing to 1/2 hr 50 e and extending the session according to her performance in the room or tipping for exceptional 1/2 hr sessions.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's the rite strategy 👍.

But might be difficult for some that wants DFK and gals don't do it in 30 min session.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2047575]Yeah that's the rite strategy 👍.

But might be difficult for some that wants DFK and gals don't do it in 30 min session.[/QUOTE]Yesterday I got DFK from Andrea, Hu. Might be difficult to get from girls guys regard as top lookers.

Has anyone sessioned a babe who wears a tie and nothing else? She says she's from Spain; can't challenge that as she speaks fluent Spanish. She told me 50 euros extra for DATY so didn't session. Love her derriere. How's she in the sack?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2047608]Yesterday I got DFK from Andrea, Hu. Might be difficult to get from girls guys regard as top lookers.[/QUOTE]Hmmm try to get DFK from Janine for 1 HR, LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2047614]Has anyone sessioned a babe who wears a tie and nothing else? She says she's from Spain; can't challenge that as she speaks fluent Spanish. She told me 50 euros extra for DATY so didn't session. Love her derriere. How's she in the sack?[/QUOTE]She is Sorana.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2047516]...Sorana tried to get me when arrived. I liked her cute new bun on top. I told her I had to have lunch first, but after my meal, she had disappeared. I have just read that Yama Yama had at that time whisked her to the garden to silent-O her twice! ...[/QUOTE]When I was in the lounge of Sharks last March, a girl talked to me like "Hi, do you remember me? Natalia, we met at Oase. We did massage on each other" I got a little bewildered because I didn't remember her at all. I then rushed into the locker room and checked the previous memo, and here she is

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1883129] Natalia 1410-1500 (100 E): long brunet, 175 cm, A-cup, slim, 22 yo, elongated face Rom, at Oase 1 month after Bucharest waitress, poor command of English. In a room, kissing, caressing, 20-minute's DATY with G-spot fingering, which brought her to a big smile showing her orgasm, BBBJ, cow-girl, 5-minute's rest, her professional massage on me, my massage on her were all we enjoyed. May not repeat.[/QUOTE].

I really get surprised everytime WGs have good memory about even one-time customers.

Am now at another club not Sharks. The point is that I have been offered DFK and DATY as inclusive for 50, with no exceptions so far. Sharks girls have lost my custom for today solely because of the overcharging.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2047375]Fabulous report!

Very interesting we might have similar taste that we chose girls in such a high degree of coincidence, LOL.

During my six days Sharks journey in mid-May, I had gone with 12 Sharks girls.

1) - Amalia, 20 yo, RO, 6 hours.

2) - Jennifer, 18 yo, RO, 5 hours.

3) - Steffi, 23 yo, RO, 3 hours.

4) - Dina, 27 yo, Hu, 2 hours.

5) - Vivien, 27 yo, RO, 3 hours.

6) - Regina, 20 yo, Hu, 1 hour.

7) - Magda, 20 yo, RO, 1 hour.

8) - Tessa, 20 yo, De, 1 hour.

9) - Sonia, 21 yo, RO, 1 hour..[/QUOTE]I saw Amalia, Jennifer and Tessa were mentioned here a few times. Would anyone give more description for these girls? Or share their experiences with those girls?

Planning to go to sharks before July 1st, just wondering is this girl called cheyanne blonde hair with big boobs in sharks those days?

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2047629]When I was in the lounge of Sharks last March, a girl talked to me like "Hi, do you remember me? Natalia, we met at Oase. We did massage on each other" I got a little bewildered because I didn't remember her at all. I then rushed into the locker room and checked the previous memo, and here she is

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I really get surprised everytime WGs have good memory about even one-time customers.[/QUOTE]Sorana's Romanian? Will not session a dishonest provider, I suspect I'll get less service than what I pay for.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2047633]Am now at another club not Sharks. The point is that I have been offered DFK and DATY as inclusive for 50, with no exceptions so far. Sharks girls have lost my custom for today solely because of the overcharging.[/QUOTE]I suspect there are many guys who unhesitatingly fork out 150 euros for a 30 minute session so one really ought not to blame the girls. What I find interesting is the popularity of 50 euro Wednesdays which shows that blokes are checking the pennies with respect to the entrance fee.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2047629]
I really get surprised everytime WGs have good memory about even one-time customers.[/QUOTE]You pay well. Sample more WGs than average. And do substantially more DATY than an avearge. WGs share info. So even WGs who never went with you know about you.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2047484]I don't see this as being taken advantage of as the guy still have to pay her 50 e.
[/QUOTE]Some guys are just cheap. They already know upfront that they only want to do 30 minutes no matter how good the WG performs. And some men never repeat. So these men would be misleading. Like a boss who promises every year that you will get a raise.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2047633]Am now at another club not Sharks. The point is that I have been offered DFK and DATY as inclusive for 50, with no exceptions so far. Sharks girls have lost my custom for today solely because of the overcharging.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the club. I got to this point about Oase and Sharks in the beginning of the year (which was already fairly late). Haven't been back since, although I'm sure the summer will entice me to try again.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2047462]Come down to reality, man! These hundreds of prostitutes you gave an O know exactly how to act and to make you feel good.

It may happen from time to time, but do not forget that you are in a brothel.[/QUOTE]You are so bad to kill his fantasies and my dreams, so I stop to drink champagne, bordeaux, and I will drink only beautiful prostitutes tasty juice, you get on your tongue when they really cum. If I don't succeed, then I will die from thirst.

Unfortunately, not in Hessen at the moment.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2047701]Some guys are just cheap. They already know upfront that they only want to do 30 minutes no matter how good the WG performs. And some men never repeat. So these men would be misleading. Like a boss who promises every year that you will get a raise.[/QUOTE]I agree with that scenario.

I rmb last yr a gal told me that she wud only kiss in 1 HR. I told her how could I know if it wud be any good? That it was late and I was tired so could prolly only do 30 min so maybe I see you tmw.

To my surprise she agreed to go with me for 30 min with kissing so off we went. Guess she believed when I said I was coming back the next day. Kissing was good and she also asked me LOL so about 5 min into the session I agreed to stay 1 HR.

[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2047660]I saw Amalia, Jennifer and Tessa were mentioned here a few times. Would anyone give more description for these girls? Or share their experiences with those girls?[/QUOTE]Amalia is Elif's sister and they really look alike. No doubt they are real sisters. Amalia is slim, long blonde hair and white skin. Elif is the eldest, a bit darker than Amalia and she probably has the best bum in Sharks! I have tried them both and I can highly recommend them. Threesomes with both of them must be fab and it's on my to-do list for my next trip in July.

I don't know who Jennifer is. Tessa is tall, very long black hair, many tats all over and she has a very beautiful face. She only works every now and then, but she's definitely a real beauty. All my sessions with her have been great. I think she selects her costumers though.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2047673]I suspect there are many guys who unhesitatingly fork out 150 euros for a 30 minute session so one really ought not to blame the girls. What I find interesting is the popularity of 50 euro Wednesdays which shows that blokes are checking the pennies with respect to the entrance fee.[/QUOTE]What I fo und in my limited experience has been that 150 or 100 for a 30 minute session just ups the expectations of the girls. Paying at that rate seems to lead to expectations of large tips and gifts. I was at LR today and the girls seemed ok with 50, with no requests for tips or gifts

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2047043]Are there two Sade / Shade's? I kept getting hounded by a new Romanian girl with the name Shadee or Sadee.

One slender talllish good looking black girl was a Kenyan named Ellen. Her English is so so in my limited conversation with her. Quite pretty to me.[/QUOTE]My fault. Mixed up names. Grace is the black girl. Sade the Romanian girl.

HB.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2047668]Sorana's Romanian? Will not session a dishonest provider, I suspect I'll get less service than what I pay for.[/QUOTE]Earlier this year, I recall that she told me that she came from Spain as she worked in Spanish clubs the last 2-3 years before coming to Sharks. So she is technically correct.

Her service was good - worth every cent. I regret missing having a session with her this time due to Yama Yama's escapade with her.

One new girl I tried in this trip was Stephanie. Romanian, 18 years old, short, very slim body but with perky pointy tits. Service was OK. Great fun to talk to. Claimed to speak Spanish too!

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2047768]

One new girl I tried in this trip was Stephanie. Romanian, 18 years old, short, very slim body but with perky pointy tits. Service was OK. Great fun to talk to. Claimed to speak Spanish too![/QUOTE]She told me she is 21. She worked at Oase for a month or so, before she came to Sharks, as I recall. I sessioned twice with her in March and once last week. I find her face to be quite cute, and her body to be a good fit for me. I never spoke to her much, just banged away (which is a bit uncommon for me as I normally chat quite a bit with my girls).

She told me 20. But 19 to this other guy I sat next to while dining LOL. He thought she looked 14. 😃. But she is def more than that judging by her reaction to it, lol. 18 is probably more so.

Got to wonder huh? I played it safe and skipped her. Don't want to hurt the pretty inside. Probably tender...

Her name is apparently Estefania (or Estephania?) and not Stephany though... I asked particularly about that as I heard the spanish spelling accent. The e is near silent...

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2047701]Some guys are just cheap. They already know upfront that they only want to do 30 minutes no matter how good the WG performs. And some men never repeat. So these men would be misleading. Like a boss who promises every year that you will get a raise.[/QUOTE]I was walking thru the parking lot today looking at license plates many nice cars from RO new BMW Audi etc, if a WG is driving a nicer car than I own does it make me "cheap" to want to try her for 50?

Please elaborate? I cannot understand why "anyone" would advocate for paying higher prices, do you do that anywhere else? Do you ask for less pay at work also? Just wondering?

Have you ever been divorced? Did you offer more to your ex wife than the court demanded? Did you say 1000 per week for child support is silly how about we make it 10000?

The only thing I can do is guess that some guys can't get girls for the lower prices for anyone of a variety of reasons, so they always pay more than everyone else, and they resent the fuck out of that so they are going to try to demean those of us that get offered low prices (my more suspicious nature suspects foul play when I see it on forums in the usa, I suspect only a women or a feminist would try to demean those that pay less than they ever can) good luck trying to shame me, because beautiful girls offer me great service at the lowest prices, might you be from another planet by chance?

And by the way I've been at Sharks 6 days in a row 7 girls, each 50 e for everything.

Does that make me cheap? Well if so I would rather be cheap than the opposite.

The term "sour grapes" comes to mind.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2047757]What I fo und in my limited experience has been that 150 or 100 for a 30 minute session just ups the expectations of the girls. Paying at that rate seems to lead to expectations of large tips and gifts. I was at LR today and the girls seemed ok with 50, with no requests for tips or gifts[/QUOTE]LR is a small club, so a few WGs missing will have a significant impact on the LU. For tourists who are only doing 3-4 day trips it doesn't make sense, especially if they are not driving. My last visit was Monday May 29th. But of the six or so tourist mongers I spoke to who were in LR the last week of May, five reported the LU being down. Only one enjoyed it enough to make repeat visits.

Very weak line up today.

Was going to just relax and around 2130 I see a girl I haven't ran across yet.

She was heavier than I like but she had small pointed tits and no tattoos.

The face was not the best nor the worst, so I ask her where she's from she says aachen, so I ask if she will provide what I want in a 30 min session she says of course with an eager smile.

Then it goes down hill in the room she pulls out babywipes to clean my cock for a few minutes, I say come on? And she gets bitchy.

Then she bit my lip very hard 2-3 x (just shy of bleeding) in a very angry way I'm thinking she wants me to walk out, and she still gets paid.

Then I was eating her pussy and she came and I asked if she likes it and she says no, but do what you must, so I climb on top of her, to kiss more and she pushes me really hard in the stomach.

The kinda push that tempts many men to strike back in self defense, me being in a foreign brothel, I refrained.

So I'm pissed but I'm not walking out I do her doggie and finish, all in less than 10 minutes.

I go to locker room to get her euro, I hand it to her at the glass doors and walk away as she was trying to kiss me to put on a good show for any guys watching?

And as she's saying thank you and moving and to kiss me, she's saying thank you as I walk away quickly she adds "For nothing".

She is a psychotic that should be fired for that bullshit, she would be in the USA.

The name was Sara.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2047776]She told me 20. But 19 to this other guy I sat next to while dining LOL. He thought she looked 14. 😃. But she is def more than that judging by her reaction to it, lol. 18 is probably more so.

Got to wonder huh? I played it safe and skipped her. Don't want to hurt the pretty inside. Probably tender...

Her name is apparently Estefania (or Estephania?) and not Stephany though... I asked particularly about that as I heard the spanish spelling accent. The e is near silent...[/QUOTE]Agree she looks younger than 21. As low as 14? I will not go there. LOL.

Wouldn't worry about hurting the pretty insides. Unless you are hung like a horse ofc. She kept offering anal and other extras to me. With her high pitch voice, "baabie, you want anaaal?" That's never my thing, but her pussy felt as tight as other girls' (what I imagine to be.) ass

[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2047660]I saw Amalia, Jennifer and Tessa were mentioned here a few times. Would anyone give more description for these girls? Or share their experiences with those girls?[/QUOTE]I wrote about Jennifer. Approx 160 cm, generallynskinny although a bit of tummy, long blonde hair with extensions, almost platinum, cute face, generally wraps herself in a towel. Hangs on the far side couches / bar.

Tessa is the German girl with a cute face, nice tight nod, some amount of tats. Very friendly. Tempted but didn't try her.

Thanks Uncle Ox for the kind words.

I still don't know who is Amelia. Must have missed her. Where does she sit? I did not want a threesome with her sister though.

Is Gloriana the same as Gloria, the blonde Romanian with beads around hair? She was a lot of fun. I really did want to take her, but my stamina was failing me.

I didn't see Anja anymore. I think I took her just once, and that was a while ago. She is pretty.

If I could have a do over, I will just book Regina for myself for 4 days, and be in 7th heaven and die with a permanent smile on my face, LOL.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2047375]Fabulous report!

Very interesting we might have similar taste that we chose girls in such a high degree of coincidence, LOL.

During my six days Sharks journey in mid-May, I had gone with 12 Sharks girls.

1) - Amalia, 20 yo, RO, 6 hours.

2) - Jennifer, 18 yo, RO, 5 hours.

3) - Steffi, 23 yo, RO, 3 hours.

4) - Dina, 27 yo, Hu, 2 hours.

5) - Vivien, 27 yo, RO, 3 hours.

6) - Regina, 20 yo, Hu, 1 hour.

7) - Magda, 20 yo, RO, 1 hour.

8) - Tessa, 20 yo, De, 1 hour.

9) - Sonia, 21 yo, RO, 1 hour.

10) -Elizabeth, 35 yo, RO, 0.5 hour.

11) -Lavinia, 23 yo, RO, 0.5 hour.

12) -Esther or Ester, 24 yo, RO, 0.5 hour.

My only regret was I didn't have enough time to spend with above girls. I did promise to give Magda, Esther, Lavinia and Elizabeth one more hour each. But in my last two days in Sharks, I couldn't even find them. I'd like to offer Tessa a four-hour-session, however she was not available. I promised to offer Dina, Regina, Steffi more sessions, but it didn't work at all. An there were large numbers of my favs missing this time: Sandra, Nicolette, Anja, Rebecca, Bianca, Leana, Gloriana, Megan, Helli, Mina, etc. Melanie came the last day I was in Sharks but she rejected me due to my failure of taking her earlier.

My next trip would be in late July or August. Hopefully could see those beautiful creatures soon.[/QUOTE]

I have went swimming everyday even when it's less than hot.

Today the water was green and they had drained about a 1/3 of the water out?

You can't do that? That's the gem of their yard!

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2047797]...I didn't see Anja anymore. I think I took her just once, and that was a while ago. She is pretty...[/QUOTE]I met Anja at Oase two weeks ago.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2046061]FKK Tour Day 3, Friday, Oase1...4) Anja (Ex-Sharks) 1900-1950 (excluding 10 min as tip), 100 E /1 h + 20 E as tip for Oase-way, the first time in the past 2 months, the previous session was at Sharks. I was so surprised to find Anja at Oase, who had moved out to Mainhattan last week then this week here. In a room DFK, caressing, tantalizing DATY leading her to the intense O after her request for my G-spot fingering, missionary leading her to the second O, her tobacco break and pillow talk. Must repeat wherever it is.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2047766]...Grace is the black girl...[/QUOTE]There are four Blackies at Sharks now, Ella, Grace, Sasha and Winnie.

You are welcome, Jnpr30.

Amalia or Amelia, is about 165 cm, with long half blonde hair and white skin. She is an elegant young lady. I think she sometimes sat around pole area, where Helli used sat. Sometimes she sat with her sister Elif. Amalia just started early this year, but she gains popularity among so many mongers quickly. You could find she is far more populous than her sister.

Gloriana is another girl, half Romanian half Hungarian. She grew up in Hungary and now attends a graduate school in Hungary. She used to be very popular among German mongers. I haven't seen her for a while.

I like Regina too, But not worry, I will not compete with you, LOL.

I would book Tessa 8 hours if I could meet her again. Keep my fingers crossed, haha!

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2047797]Thanks Uncle Ox for the kind words.

I still don't know who is Amelia. Must have missed her. Where does she sit? I did not want a threesome with her sister though.

Is Gloriana the same as Gloria, the blonde Romanian with beads around hair? She was a lot of fun. I really did want to take her, but my stamina was failing me.

I didn't see Anja anymore. I think I took her just once, and that was a while ago. She is pretty.

If I could have a do over, I will just book Regina for myself for 4 days, and be in 7th heaven and die with a permanent smile on my face, LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2047787]I wrote about Jennifer. Approx 160 cm, generallynskinny although a bit of tummy, long blonde hair with extensions, almost platinum, cute face, generally wraps herself in a towel. Hangs on the far side couches / bar.

Tessa is the German girl with a cute face, nice tight nod, some amount of tats. Very friendly. Tempted but didn't try her.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Jnpr30. I finally remember who is Jennifer. In early May, a blonde girl approached me. I originally thought she was very attractive. She told me she just started to work at Sharks and only 18 yo. For some unknown reason, I thought she was another young girl, Stefani, who gained some negative review in your past post. See below.

Because of this misconception, I rebuffed Jennifer. Sorry. I will definitely compensate her next time.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2015228]Stefani: ......This girl is really quite my type, but even though she is barely 20, she learned all the bad ways of more experienced WGs. Otherwise, she is a fun fuck..[/QUOTE]

Relax. McA is one of the good guys. And I don't believe he considers himself a high roller. If anything, I am one of the few who have advocated here in the forum to increase the price to 60 E PROVIDED that DFK is made mandatory, because that seems to be biggest issue of dispute between guys and gals. However, most people disagreed with my idea.

As for BMWs, one explanation I have is, these girls have very little savvy in financial management. This is true for many people in sports, entertainment, etc (Some of who make a lot of money but blow it away on frivolous gadgets and other expensive stuff). So, guys here may have a few million in the bank but drive a $15 K car whereas a WG may have just 30 K in her kitty and spend it all on a expensive car.

But it's possible that a few girls may have more money than some guys here (or men in the club). I always thought it's funny that a poorer man can shag a much richer, (and prettier girl, out of his league) for a fifty; Imagine, if you are a middle class guy and see a rich chick in the mall, You might have wished that you could fuck her but knew you had no chance. You might be prepared to spend a few hundred on an expensive date to have a shot. In fkk, this can happen which is the best thing about an fkk - a great equalizer! (however, in my view, few girls in the clubs have more money than the average Joe visiting the club)

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2047777]I was walking thru the parking lot today looking at license plates many nice cars from RO new BMW Audi etc, if a WG is driving a nicer car than I own does it make me "cheap" to want to try her for 50?

Please elaborate? I cannot understand why "anyone" would advocate for paying higher prices, do you do that anywhere else? Do you ask for less pay at work also? Just wondering?

Have you ever been divorced? Did you offer more to your ex wife than the court demanded? Did you say 1000 per week for child support is silly how about we make it 10000?

The only thing I can do is guess that some guys can't get girls for the lower prices for anyone of a variety of reasons, so they always pay more than everyone else, and they resent the fuck out of that so they are going to try to demean those of us that get offered low prices (my more suspicious nature suspects foul play when I see it on forums in the usa, I suspect only a women or a feminist would try to demean those that pay less than they ever can) good luck trying to shame me, because beautiful girls offer me great service at the lowest prices, might you be from another planet by chance?

And by the way I've been at Sharks 6 days in a row 7 girls, each 50 e for everything.

Does that make me cheap? Well if so I would rather be cheap than the opposite.

The term "sour grapes" comes to mind.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2047776]I played it safe and skipped her. Don't want to hurt the pretty inside. Probably tender...

Her name is apparently Estefania (or Estephania?) and not Stephany though... I asked particularly about that as I heard the spanish spelling accent. The e is near silent...[/QUOTE]She said that her real name is Estefania. But the club wanted her to use a more common name, and she chose one that is close to it - Stephanie.

No need to worry about hurting her. Tight pussy but could take a lot of banging.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2047698]...WGs share info. So even WGs who never went with you know about you.[/QUOTE]Many girls, even Sylvana (wondering where she is now), know I'm a good massager and ask for it, even on couch, needless to say their request for O. LOL.

Your beloved Sylvana is now in Samya, I'm sure she's waiting for you to come and give her silent -O's with your perfect massage.

[QUOTE=MrCrankyPants;2047328]since they are often mentioned in the same breath, do you have any idea if they ever work as a team?

I can't be the first one to have this thought.[/QUOTE]Yes, they do. I have also seen Sandra work with Lara. And I had been told that Mandy also works with Lara. However, I believe that a Janine with (Sandra or Mandy or Lara) combination is unlikely.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2047777]I was walking thru the parking lot today looking at license plates many nice cars from RO new BMW Audi etc, if a WG is driving a nicer car than I own does it make me "cheap" to want to try her for 50?

Please elaborate? I cannot understand why "anyone" would advocate for paying higher prices, do you do that anywhere else? Do you ask for less pay at work also? Just wondering?

Have you ever been divorced? Did you offer more to your ex wife than the court demanded? Did you say 1000 per week for child support is silly how about we make it 10000?

The only thing I can do is guess that some guys can't get girls for the lower prices for anyone of a variety of reasons, so they always pay more than everyone else, and they resent the fuck out of that so they are going to try to demean those of us that get offered low prices (my more suspicious nature suspects foul play when I see it on forums in the usa, I suspect only a women or a feminist would try to demean those that pay less than they ever can) good luck trying to shame me, because beautiful girls offer me great service at the lowest prices, might you be from another planet by chance?

And by the way I've been at Sharks 6 days in a row 7 girls, each 50 e for everything.

Does that make me cheap? Well if so I would rather be cheap than the opposite.

The term "sour grapes" comes to mind.[/QUOTE]Good point. There's no doubt that wgs ask some guys to pay more than others. For example, they believe that the older guys have more money and would upsell them more than younger guys. Also I imagine that Asians pay more than others regardless of age. Being among the less young crowd I guess I get more than my fair share of girls asking for 50 e more for this and for that but with 16 sessions so far at 50 euros per zimmer I'm not 'upgrading' any time soon.

[blue]Yes, some words you used to call this girl are not approved in the Forum.

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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2047856]Relax. McA is one of the good guys. And I don't believe he considers himself a high roller. If anything, I am one of the few who have advocated here in the forum to increase the price to 60 E PROVIDED that DFK is made mandatory, because that seems to be biggest issue of dispute between guys and gals. However, most people disagreed with my idea.

As for BMWs, one explanation I have is, these girls have very little savvy in financial management. This is true for many people in sports, entertainment, etc (Some of who make a lot of money but blow it away on frivolous gadgets and other expensive stuff). So, guys here may have a few million in the bank but drive a $15 K car whereas a WG may have just 30 K in her kitty and spend it all on a expensive car.

But it's possible that a few girls may have more money than some guys here (or men in the club). I always thought it's funny that a poorer man can shag a much richer, (and prettier girl, out of his league) for a fifty; Imagine, if you are a middle class guy and see a rich chick in the mall, You might have wished that you could fuck her but knew you had no chance. You might be prepared to spend a few hundred on an expensive date to have a shot. In fkk, this can happen which is the best thing about an fkk - a great equalizer! (however, in my view, few girls in the clubs have more money than the average Joe visiting the club)[/QUOTE]I really think comparing a rich girl in the mall to a WG that makes 100 k a year doing 50 e sessions is a very poor comparison.

Turgid, good for you. As an older customer I have even been told that as I can't take my money with me to my grave I should make a gift of it to a girl. Now that's how high some girls are aiming the tips / gifts business.lol.

That's why I expect all in a 50 Euro first session. Gives me an idea of how mercenary is the girl

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2047809]You are welcome, Jnpr30.

Amalia or Amelia, is about 165 cm, with long half blonde hair and white skin. She is an elegant young lady. I think she sometimes sat around pole area, where Helli used sat. Sometimes she sat with her sister Elif. Amalia just started early this year, but she gains popularity among so many mongers quickly. You could find she is far more populous than her sister.

Gloriana is another girl, half Romanian half Hungarian. She grew up in Hungary and now attends a graduate school in Hungary. She used to be very popular among German mongers. I haven't seen her for a while.

I like Regina too, But not worry, I will not compete with you, LOL.

I would book Tessa 8 hours if I could meet her again. Keep my fingers crossed, haha![/QUOTE]I was sitting by the bar when this lovely German whom I laid eyes on for the first time came up to me and started chatting. I was ready to go to the zimmer with her before she was and she asked for time to smoke a cigarette prior to our tryst. Tessa was my best session so far this trip. She did not measure up to my all time favorites as she lacked genuine GFE (which I do not ever get from German girls) and DFK just lip action with little tongue which is why I did not tip her but with hindsight I think that was a bit harsh especially given the current scenario. However, she is definitely on my repeat list for more than 30 minutes.

McAdonis. Yes, of course, the big disadvantage of Living Room is the hit and miss nature of a small lineup. The advantage of Sharks is that this hit and miss element is reduced.

Jnpr. Talking to some girls at Sharks, it is clear you are right and the girls tend to put money first into assets like house, gold and cars (even if the latter depreciate). , but they still spend prodigious amounts on shopping expeditions. So I really think that most of the established girls at Sharks are much much richer than me, as well as much much younger.

My hope for them is that they handle the money to secure their lives once they stop working.

Relax. McA is one of the good guys. And I don't believe he considers himself a high roller. If anything, I am one of the few who have advocated here in the forum to increase the price to 60 E provided that DFK is made mandatory, because that seems to be biggest issue of dispute between guys and gals. However, most people disagreed with my idea.

Nevermind what the guys think hahaaa ask the WGs they think and I'm sure they will laugh at the idea of a 10 e increase they want a 50 e increase so that they can immediately start working on bumping it up another 50 e.

As for BMWs, one explanation I have is, these girls have very little savvy in financial management. This is true for many people in sports, entertainment, etc (Some of who make a lot of money but blow it away on frivolous gadgets and other expensive stuff). So, guys here may have a few million in the bank but drive a $15 K car whereas a WG may have just 30 K in her kitty and spend it all on a expensive car.

And you're really assuming a lot in this comment in the favor of the WG! The opposite can easily be true, that the man is the frivolous one, and she is savvy and she has enough extra to buy the new BMW to show off how well she really is doing, and maybe she could even buy something much nicer but she doesn't want to be too ostentatious.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2047930]Your beloved Sylvana is now in Samya, I'm sure she's waiting for you to come and give her silent -O's with your perfect massage.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. I'll then stay away from Samya for a while. LOL.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2047877]
No need to worry about hurting her. Tight pussy but could take a lot of banging.[/QUOTE]I joke, I joke. I never hurt anyone. Gentle as a colibri.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2047991]I never hurt anyone.[/QUOTE]At least for sure common sense.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2047975]Jnpr. Talking to some girls at Sharks, it is clear you are right and the girls tend to put money first into assets like house, gold and cars (even if the latter depreciate). , but they still spend prodigious amounts on shopping expeditions. So I really think that most of the established girls at Sharks are much much richer than me, as well as much much younger.

My hope for them is that they handle the money to secure their lives once they stop working.[/QUOTE]You are right, but don t forget that a important number of girls are not only working for herself, some are clever, others not.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2047777]

And by the way I've been at Sharks 6 days in a row 7 girls, each 50 e for everything.[/QUOTE]Define everything.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2048023]Define everything.

HB.[/QUOTE]Define if you want.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2048023]Define everything.

HB.[/QUOTE]Speaking with other men and ISGers in the club they say everything very much, so I picked it up, my apologies.

Eager BBBJ, DATY, eager DFK, CFS, BLS that's what they consider everything, "ALL INCLUSIVE".

No extra charges for the basics of regular sex.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2048005]At least for sure common sense.[/QUOTE]Except sensitive ISG posters mentally when they are being silly 😆.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2047777]The only thing I can do is guess that some guys can't get girls for the lower prices for anyone of a variety of reasons, so they always pay more than everyone else, and they resent the fuck out of that so they are going to try to demean those of us that get offered low prices[/QUOTE]Didn't see this until Jnpr30 bumped it.

When I said "some guys are just cheap", I include myself in that group. To me, cheap is not always a negative word. Depends on the context.

Was there some negativity in my original post? Yes, but it was more connected to the word "misleading". In other words, being intentionally deceitful. Here's a common scenario that happens when a Hessen WG takes a first-time customer into the room:

WG: "Baby, what we make in the room? How long we stay?

Man: "Depends, I will stay as long as I am having fun. ".

Probably only 10% of the men are truthful. 80% of the men know they will only extend if she gives 9+ service, and even then only a maximum of one hour. 10% know ahead of time, they will stay 30 minutes no matter what. Most top-earning WGs probably would not trust the customer in such a scenario. Or it would be a case-to-case to basis. She'd probably try to assess on the spot, how "gentlemanly" he is (based on his reputation, ethnicity, nationality, and age).

Would I talk badly of this type of WG or would I say she has "no business sense"? No, because the reality is there is an opportunity cost to her being in the room. Read the reports, Optimist just wrote he spent the better part of five days with one WG. Other men like to take WGs out of the club for an entire night. She doesn't want to be unavailable when these types of customers are interviewing for targets. It's a high-risk, high-reward strategy.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2048168]Didn't see this until Jnpr30 bumped it.

When I said "some guys are just cheap", I include myself in that group. To me, cheap is not always a negative word. Depends on the context.

Was there some negativity in my original post? Yes, but it was more connected to the word "misleading". In other words, being intentionally deceitful. Here's a common scenario that happens when a Hessen WG takes a first-time customer into the room:

WG: "Baby, what we make in the room? How long we stay?

Man: "Depends, I will stay as long as I am having fun. ".

Probably only 10% of the men are truthful. 80% of the men know they will only extend if she gives 9+ service, and even then only a maximum of one hour. 10% know ahead of time, they will stay 30 minutes no matter what. Most top-earning WGs probably would not trust the customer in such a scenario. Or it would be a case-to-case to basis. She'd probably try to assess on the spot, how "gentlemanly" he is (based on his reputation, ethnicity, nationality, and age).

Would I talk badly of this type of WG or would I say she has "no business sense"? No, because the reality is there is an opportunity cost to her being in the room. Read the reports, Optimist just wrote he spent the better part of five days with one WG. Other men like to take WGs out of the club for an entire night. She doesn't want to be unavailable when these types of customers are interviewing for targets. It's a high-risk, high-reward strategy.[/QUOTE]When I try a new girl, even being a weekly repeating specialist, when the girl ask me for how long I want to stay with her, I answer: it just depends on you, usually girls understand, and when it works good, after less than 5 minutes, I say to her I prefer to take my time, then, girl is relaxed and I can enjoy.

I prefer to have 1 or 2 good rooms a day, for 2*100 , rather than 4 rabbit rooms. When I enjoy, 30 mn are too short for my foreplay which are for longer than 30 mn.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2047975]Jnpr. Talking to some girls at Sharks, it is clear you are right and the girls tend to put money first into assets like house, gold and cars (even if the latter depreciate). , but they still spend prodigious amounts on shopping expeditions. So I really think that most of the established girls at Sharks are much much richer than me, as well as much much younger.

My hope for them is that they handle the money to secure their lives once they stop working.[/QUOTE]WGs like football players have short career, working with their fresh ass, or square feet for most of football players. When I speak with my girls, they know they won't make much money from business in deep Romania or Bulgaria or Moldavia or even cold Siberia or far Kamchatka or Ural. Working with my brain, I will work for nearly 50 years, maybe more until I die.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2048168]Didn't see this until Jnpr30 bumped it.

When I said "some guys are just cheap", I include myself in that group. To me, cheap is not always a negative word. Depends on the context.

Was there some negativity in my original post? Yes, but it was more connected to the word "misleading". In other words, being intentionally deceitful. Here's a common scenario that happens when a Hessen WG takes a first-time customer into the room:

WG: "Baby, what we make in the room? How long we stay?

Man: "Depends, I will stay as long as I am having fun. ".

Probably only 10% of the men are truthful. 80% of the men know they will only extend if she gives 9+ service, and even then only a maximum of one hour. 10% know ahead of time, they will stay 30 minutes no matter what. Most top-earning WGs probably would not trust the customer in such a scenario. Or it would be a case-to-case to basis. She'd probably try to assess on the spot, how "gentlemanly" he is (based on his reputation, ethnicity, nationality, and age).

Would I talk badly of this type of WG or would I say she has "no business sense"? No, because the reality is there is an opportunity cost to her being in the room. Read the reports, Optimist just wrote he spent the better part of five days with one WG. Other men like to take WGs out of the club for an entire night. She doesn't want to be unavailable when these types of customers are interviewing for targets. It's a high-risk, high-reward strategy.[/QUOTE]I'm curious why you are concerned with looking at this from their vantage?

I don't give a thing about their perspective nor do they give a thing about yours.

This is a very competitive environment so why concern yourself with the oppositions interests?

Guys like optimist are rare, I don't think a girl is going to miss out on a whale because she's doing a 50 1/2 HR, that's a stretch of the imagination I don't even think they could manage.

She should be concerned with repeat biz and word of mouth to build a good rep, most girls there are very mercenary (to use optimists word), ala Los Angeles / Las Vegas.

I've spent many hours 7 days in a row now, and I'm burned out, did a repeat of Mandy today, she may be the only girl with any character or integrity in the whole place.

The mgmt is probably the biggest problem with sharks, they micromanage every aspect of the place including the ethos / zeitgeist of the WGs, I think its an indicator of their attitude to name a brothel sharks.

And then pack it with sharks, I'm not impressed, nor amused, I'm not a small business expect, but common sense tells me this approach may work for them short term but is unsustainable long term.

If a guy fully intended to stay just 30 min regardless of the service and walks out promptly at the half HR mark even when the service was fantastic, isn't he the one losing out? When he implements this strategy across a spectrum of girls, he would come out a net loser. Unless every single girl provided fantastic service ofc.

I don't believe I have a premeditated mindset in these cases. I have stayed an hour, or hour and half, or taken multiple sessions subsequently when I liked what I saw in the first half HR; with others, it was curtains at the 20/25 min, and no more repeats ever. Last week, Regina fell in the first category for me, and I didn't think she would become such a fav until I took her to the room. Sara would be in the second category, as would be many others.

McAdonis. Fair points as always. Although as you point out, I often pay very much more than 50, I see no reason why 50 for everything should be a problem. Of course as you say many men are disingenuous with the girls, but I'm not sure this makes too much problem with girls who provide everything. I saw several girls who were busy almost nonstop, taking new customers for half or one hour or more, and spending maybe 10 minutes chatting pre-room. I think many many of their customers extended to an hour or more: I know they were often new customers as I overheard the pre-room chats.

These few girls made more, much more, I am sure, than the majority of the overcharging (my shorthand phrasing) girls.

Jnpr. Agreed. Most guys going with the busy girls knew they had something worth staying more than 30 minutes for

Cheers both.

I really wanted to session the tall and big Lithuanian as I saw the bloke who came out of the zimmer with her look very contented but I found her manner off putting. She probably gives good service but sometimes one has to respect oneself and avoid people who lack basic courtesy. Redhead Vanessa, Rom. has been pursuing me vigorously but I find super aggression portends a bad session. My best tryst today was with Latvian Angelina, 30' 50 e with all my inclinations fulfilled with the exception of genuine DFK which is quite elusive for me this trip.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2048213]I really wanted to session the tall and big Lithuanian as I saw the bloke who came out of the zimmer with her look very contented but I found her manner off putting. She probably gives good service but sometimes one has to respect oneself and avoid people who lack basic courtesy. Redhead Vanessa, Rom. has been pursuing me vigorously but I find super aggression portends a bad session. My best tryst today was with Latvian Angelina, 30' 50 e with all my inclinations fulfilled with the exception of genuine DFK which is quite elusive for me this trip.[/QUOTE]What was her name?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2048168]
Would I talk badly of this type of WG or would I say she has "no business sense"? No, because the reality is there is an opportunity cost to her being in the room. Read the reports, Optimist just wrote he spent the better part of five days with one WG. Other men like to take WGs out of the club for an entire night. She doesn't want to be unavailable when these types of customers are interviewing for targets. It's a high-risk, high-reward strategy.[/QUOTE]Indeed, but she does forget perhaps the main point I've been trying to project here a few times. She forgets about the word of mouth. Such strategy would work before the internet and if guys stayed separate from each others while in the club. These days though, 98% of guys I meet in FKK's read one or more forums such as ISG is one example of. In such environment the added good review factor trumps the chance factor you are referring to. It works like MyTaxi, with personalized reviews of the driver.

To sum it up, wg's are stuck in the past. Pre-internet age with age old useless tactics. Just like the media was stuck in the past when not realizing Trump would win the election, nor that Brexit would happen.

Like mentionned here, after I started posting positively about Mandy, she got even harder to catch..and are now able to take even shorter weeks at work to earn her satisfied amount. And she can now work any time of the week it seems and still be 24/7 booked. Because she is perhaps the one wg who understands this the most. Other wg's can seem smart, but so far only Mandy understands the information age... and maybe Aksena at Artemis to a lesser degree (although her honesty score is not a 100% like Mandy's are). Plus Mili at Artemis, Liz at Sharks (interestingly a friend of Mandy), the blonde russian at GT from Moscow (forgot name), and Marlyn at sharks who seems to just work for fun unless she is a weired actress, but if she were, then why not work more than she does?.. and I guess siri's favourites enjoy the same to a lesser extent... because guys here knows what he is after, lol. So for me, and for many others too, Sirioja is perhaps our most useful poster if you know how to weed out the right things (like I for instance couldnt care less about his swizz adventures). A few fly by night girls would fall into this category also if they weren't just that: 'fly by night girls'...

MarquideSade: like you say, the Sharks name is a rethorical old strategy used for a long time. It states that when you mention something bad openly, people think in reverse of it and see it as a joke. But normally it is used to hide and conceal the fact that it is the way things work. Most people does buy into the concealment strategy untill they learn about rethorics however. What I would label this is 'marketing'. And in the information internet age it backfires. Only PR works. And there you cannot lie nor conceal anything.

Pistons. Yes. At Sharks I saw time after time the "good" girls being busy and the 100 upsell girls with long faces complaining about lack of customers. The upsell girls I spoke to about this don't seem to understand the connection, disdaining to even risk working 30 minutes for 50 euro.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2048417]Pistons. Yes. At Sharks I saw time after time the "good" girls being busy and the 100 upsell girls with long faces complaining about lack of customers. The upsell girls I spoke to about this don't seem to understand the connection, disdaining to even risk working 30 minutes for 50 euro.[/QUOTE]Well, many romanians have barely attended school. Liz (sharks) and the blonde russian at GT who used to work at Oase for example has both studied psychology at the university. And both have excellent integrity. For unschooled people, not everything in this world is as straight forward as it might seem to the untrained eye.

Sirioja: Working girls are indeed like football players. And like football players such as Zlatan or Ronaldo, their careers can be extended if they stop with the body enhancements and the hard fitness practice with weights added. It may boost them for awhile, but it makes long term upkeep that much harder...

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2048385]What was her name?[/QUOTE]Karina, presumably.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2048213]She probably gives good service but sometimes one has to respect oneself and avoid people who lack basic courtesy.[/QUOTE]She does, you missed out my good man.

Pistons,

If you mean Liz. De ex Artemis, yes she is honest, but if you mean Ilona GT ex Tatiana. Ru Oase, fortunately my Romanian girls are much more honest and they are also prettier.

I'm not anymore a Sharks weekly regular, I have enough great girls elsewhere at the moment, but I'm surprised to read so much upselling, because I never experienced at Sharks, where I had rooms mostly with Romanians, with GFE blond Gloria. Ro on last time, for 1 h for 100, smiles and kiss.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2046754]Today is her last day. Hope come back soon. Wish she were with me in a hotel, LOL[/QUOTE]Thank HB/Optimist for the update on Elizz or Ellis/Alice. Glad to hear that she hasn't permanently retired.

But from YamaYama, it seems that she stopped so soon since last Sunday. Would anyone know when she will be back again? Planning a return trip to Sharks next week.

Also would anyone know if Brenda/Leya is back from her short break?

Thanks again....Howie.

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[QUOTE=Pistons;2048406] And in the information internet age it backfires. Only PR works. And there you cannot lie nor conceal anything.[/QUOTE]Everybody understands power of Internet age. It applies to hotels and restaurants, but less with WGs selling their services in FKK.

Not everybody writes reports. Some of the forums (like this one) are disorganized. Also FKK clubs do not post face photos, so often there is confusion over who is who. Many WG's who have been there years are rarely written about. Many WGs change clubs and change names. If I Google a restaurant that has been around for three years, I will probably find at least 20 reviews. This probably won't be true for "Lilly ACA" .

You can't assume everybody is like us, attending 20+ days a year, and 12 hours each visit. Probably less than 10% of the customers are this hardcore. A few visits ago at Sharks, I met an businessman who was doing a 3-4 hour visit. Just a quick layover. He attends once a year. His preparation was skimming the last five pages of the Sharks thread. Rest of the year, he doesn't read.

Also when you are new at a club and meet twenty new WGs in the same day, its hard to remember their names. In the ACA reports, you wrote that a blonde named "Masha" caught your eye. Good luck cross-referencing for Internet reports on Masha, because her name is actually "Misha"

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2048593]Everybody understands power of Internet age. It applies to hotels and restaurants, but less with WGs selling their services in FKK.

Not everybody writes reports. Some of the forums (like this one) are disorganized. Also FKK clubs do not post face photos, so often there is confusion over who is who. Many WG's who have been there years are rarely written about. Many WGs change clubs and change names. If I Google a restaurant that has been around for three years, I will probably find at least 20 reviews. This probably won't be true for "Lilly ACA" .

You can't assume everybody is like us, attending 20+ days a year, and 12 hours each visit. Probably less than 10% of the customers are this hardcore. A few visits ago at Sharks, I met an businessman who was doing a 3-4 hour visit. Just a quick layover. He attends once a year. His preparation was skimming the last five pages of the Sharks thread. Rest of the year, he doesn't read.[/QUOTE]What is important is not the report about that or that girl I doing that or that. Visited today Shark and can tell you that the LU was wide and great even many men due to 1 day holiday in Hessen today. Around the pool this afternoon I saw at least 6 to 7 top girls playing in the pool and around. Nothing can be more erotic for me. Except Oase, or sometimes World this can be seen nowhere in the World, fully naked girls enjoying the sun and the pool.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2048060]Speaking with other men and ISGers in the club they say everything very much, so I picked it up, my apologies.

Eager BBBJ, DATY, eager DFK, CFS, BLS that's what they consider everything, "ALL INCLUSIVE".

No extra charges for the basics of regular sex.[/QUOTE]7 girls and all gave you a wedding night for 50 EUR? Any names? Otherwise hard to believe.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2048632]7 girls and all gave you a wedding night for 50 EUR? Any names? Otherwise hard to believe.

HB.[/QUOTE]From Edna blonde?

And many RO some kinda cute.

But I don't want them.

I didn't fly 9 time zones to do all the romies in Germany.

[URL]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/9719058/European-Roma-descended-from-Indian-untouchables-genetic-study-shows.html[/URL]

If you ever want to meet up let me know ill show you what I'm talking about.

[QUOTE=Howie;2048496]Also would anyone know if Brenda/Leya is back from her short break?[/QUOTE]Brenda was there today (Thursday).

MCA puts it very well. It is always more difficult to obtain on the internet accurate, up to date, objective ratings for individual professionals as opposed to business establishments. This is true even for professionals like plumbers, electricians, auto mechanics, etc. And that's even with those people operating under their real names and generally fixed locations for a number of years. In fact, FKK girls might be the most difficult to pin down, given how much they move round and how much they change their names as MCA said. At least, escorts stay with a name for sometime and in a given location. In FKKs, despite the one name one girl policy, I still find more than one girl with the same name several times too. Finally, for most men these ratings even if abailable with some accuracy, are useless. I see a girl sitting next to me whose optics I like, I chat for a couple of min, and I head to the room. I am definitely not pulling out my smartphone and say to her "wait a min darling, let me check your rating first". And I sure don't memorize which commenter said what about which girl before my FKK trips, as if I am preparing for a final exam.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2048440]Pistons,

If you mean Liz. De ex Artemis, yes she is honest, but if you mean Ilona GT ex Tatiana. Ru Oase, fortunately my Romanian girls are much more honest and they are also prettier.

I'm not anymore a Sharks weekly regular, I have enough great girls elsewhere at the moment, but I'm surprised to read so much upselling, because I never experienced at Sharks, where I had rooms mostly with Romanians, with GFE blond Gloria. Ro on last time, for 1 h for 100, smiles and kiss.[/QUOTE]Well I only went with Tatiana once, and its been awhile since now. But she was honest back then when she was new at oase. I also thankfully haven't experienced much upselling at sharks from my favourites, but I've spotted a bit when talking to other girls in there.

McA: true about Lily, but then again, you also claimed she improved her service with the new name. Perhaps she understood how it works now. The internet doesnt just have to do with message boards either. But messaging apps and friends of friends. Ofcourse not everyone reads forums equally much, but a high percentage does. And chances are those who reads it less talks to someone more familliar with the club girls himself, or with someone reading a forum. Like in your instance, that guy was actually talking to you 😉

My Masha mention was more a word game seeing it only differs by 1 letter from Sasha. While Misha has 2 letter difference. And there were no real info there. In other threads it seems to be harder to tell who the girls are, but sometimes tatoos are mentionned, and all other descriptions. Funny thing is that the girls even get these stand out tatoos. Making it even easier to recognise them...

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2048694]MCA puts it very well. It is always more difficult to obtain on the internet accurate, up to date, objective ratings for individual professionals as opposed to business establishments. This is true even for professionals like plumbers, electricians, auto mechanics, etc. And that's even with those people operating under their real names and generally fixed locations for a number of years. In fact, FKK girls might be the most difficult to pin down, given how much they move round and how much they change their names as MCA said. At least, escorts stay with a name for sometime and in a given location. In FKKs, despite the one name one girl policy, I still find more than one girl with the same name several times too. Finally, for most men these ratings even if abailable with some accuracy, are useless. I see a girl sitting next to me whose optics I like, I chat for a couple of min, and I head to the room. I am definitely not pulling out my smartphone and say to her "wait a min darling, let me check your rating first". And I sure don't memorize which commenter said what about which girl before my FKK trips, as if I am preparing for a final exam.[/QUOTE]As an experience guy, why are you making the things so complex, I just choose the girl I like, go to the room if the things are fine it is great if not I leave after several minutes and pay 50 euros not a big deal if I compare the cost of any escort in the US or Canada. I never read any review about a girl, just useless for me but what is important is the ration man to woman in a FKK, how many girls are there, if it is clean etc.

I'm quickly running out of girls giving 1/2 hr 50 e service with everything on the menu and may soon have to repeat to get this benefit that is unless some new girls show up. My best session yesterday was with Eileen from Austria. Whitest skin in Sharks, everything except (you guessed it) DFK although close. Loves doggie. Tight. Repeatability factor is high.

There's an African lady who was very busy yesterday, I only got glimpses of her while she was on her way to the zimmer with blokes on different occasions. Never got the chance to talk with her. A busy woman portends a great service. Also saw my first Asian yesterday, not quite sure where she's from; glimpsed her going upstairs around 4. 00 pm, never saw her again. Africans and Asians are good diversions at FKKs.

I am continually astonished at the lack of good attitude by Sharks personnel (not the working girls).

For 65 euros one gets:

1. Reception staff usually uninterested on arrival and departure of guests

2. On occasions exceptionally rude staff in outside barbecue. I have witnessed one girl who was offensive to fellow workers, girls, and male customers.

3. Toilet paper running out!

4 Hairdryer not working.

5 Cups in water cooler running out.

6 Refusal to allow guests arriving at 3. 00 to pick up a few bits of food while staff clearing away.

7. Toilets not cleaned sufficiently frequently when club is busy.

Exceptions are the man who cooks the omelette, the bar staff, and one or two of the outside staff.

The club is sloppy and uncaring in its customer care. All these issues are really so easy to rectify with the tiniest effort and expenditure.

Well, they fit perfectly with the attitude of most of the girls! By the way, does someone know if Eva is still working here?

Have you noticed the tall thin Romanians? Walk around as if they're better than supermodels. Can't blame them. Its a good ruse to grab a few extra euros from clients.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2049178] Hairdryer not working.[/QUOTE]Not needed most FKK customers are old and/or bald.

I think you're the only one with hair.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2049223]Not needed most FKK customers are old and/or bald.

I think you're the only one with hair.[/QUOTE]:D Now beginning to lose some. Maybe too many hairdryers.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2049223]Not needed most FKK customers are old and/or bald.

I think you're the only one with hair.[/QUOTE]Some of the guy's need them to dry their backs.

I think Sharks, like any other business establishment, suffers from peaks and valleys in demand and that puts a strain on their personnel.

There are times when there are not too many customers. If management hires too many employees, it is a waste of money for them at that time, as they don't have enough work to do. And then just as suddenly, a lot of customers come in, and it becomes tough for the employees to provide adequate service.

This is a common problem for many businesses I am sure, but in the case of Sharks, it is not always predictable. They probably know that weekday afternoons are low periods and Friday and Saturday nights are going to be busy, and hopefully, they staff accordingly, but still there could be surprises one way or other (not too many customers or too many customers when they are not expecting), and that's a staffing problem to solve.

There are some low hanging fruit they can pick. There is no reason why they can't put a number of water dispensers and plastic cups throughout the club. Should not be costly to them at all. But last week, 3'of 4 days, even the water dispenser in the cafeteria was not operational. On one day, it was empty throughout, and the other two days, there was no water container at all. Ergo, every time anyone needs water, they have to go to the bar and ask. That puts an enormous strain on the bar staff and makes for long waits for customers and girls alike.

In fact, I would just install a couple of water and soda fountains in the club. Upstairs and downstairs. Like how you have in the US when you go to McDonalds or Taco Bell. You pay, get your glass, and refill when you need. Bar staff can then be free to serve coffee, or liquor. Water and cola account for nearly 80% of servings from the bar staff in my observation, and removing this to fountains truly reduces the burden on them. I am surprised why they don't implement it. Are they afraid customers take too many refills and waste it? Doesn't happen in the fast food places I mentioned, why should this be a problem in the clubs? In any case, the additional wastage is a small expense, as compared to the savings from freed up bar staff time.

In fact, even black coffee, hot tea can be self served. We do this at the breakfast buffets in hotels all over the place. Tea is particularly easy - all you need is a hot water tap and some tea bags and cream/sugar next to them.



Men's bathroom is just a question of demand side that I mentioned. During peak times, the bathroom is too crowded and unless they hire more staff it is very difficult to maintain the place in a spick/span manner.. I feel for that woman who is most often there. She has to keep on picking up dirty towels off the floor, continuously clean the bathrooms, refill the soap bottles, and haul the towels to the laundry. Must be one of the most thankless jobs out there. At least people say thank you to the bar staff when they get their coffee. Who says thanks to the woman cleaning bathroom? Once I gave her a ten, and her face lit up and she was so grateful.

Individual staff members being rude is something that can happen anywhere. There is no systematic solution (no more than ensuring that each WG can provide great service). If there are a number of complaints about one individual staff member, management will make a change (if they are sensible).

P.S.: Moira joined the bar staff and barbecue serving staff now, and the looks quotient went up dramatically right away.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2049178]I am continually astonished at the lack of good attitude by Sharks personnel (not the working girls).

For 65 euros one gets:

1. Reception staff usually uninterested on arrival and departure of guests

2. On occasions exceptionally rude staff in outside barbecue. I have witnessed one girl who was offensive to fellow workers, girls, and male customers.

3. Toilet paper running out!

4 Hairdryer not working.

5 Cups in water cooler running out.

6 Refusal to allow guests arriving at 3. 00 to pick up a few bits of food while staff clearing away.

7. Toilets not cleaned sufficiently frequently when club is busy.

Exceptions are the man who cooks the omelette, the bar staff, and one or two of the outside staff.

The club is sloppy and uncaring in its customer care. All these issues are really so easy to rectify with the tiniest effort and expenditure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2049261]Some of the guy's need them to dry their backs.[/QUOTE]Guys or apes?

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2049264]There are some low hanging fruit they can pick.......Men's bathroom is just a question of demand side that I mentioned. During peak times, the bathroom is too crowded and unless they hire more staff it is very difficult to maintain the place in a spick/span manner.. I feel for that woman who is most often there. She has to keep on picking up dirty towels off the floor, continuously clean the bathrooms, refill the soap bottles, and haul the towels to the laundry. Must be one of the most thankless jobs out there. At least people say thank you to the bar staff when they get their coffee. Who says thanks to the woman cleaning bathroom? Once I gave her a ten, and her face lit up and she was so grateful..[/QUOTE]Like you I really feel for that bathroom cleaning lady and she gets to see all that low hanging fruit as well.

Yes, there is plenty of low hanging fruit, and your ideas would be implemented by a decent management, and some of the staff work really really hard. The issue is bad management and its penny pinching. For a contrast look at GT and LR.

Yes, peaks and troughs in demand pose challenges, but most of the bad service has nothing to do with this. The worst service is at peak and trough times.

The customer attendance patterns are fairly predictable and could easily be catered for.

Again, yes, there are bad members of staff anywhere, but at Sharks it is a cultural issue coming from poor management, not just a case of a bad apple or two. The bad attitude runs through the club, with some staff members being an exception just by their own personalities, as has been said; the black cleaning lady, the bar staff (more or less), the omelette man, (all of whom I emphatically thank when I meet them)

[quote=bigbuddy69;2049203]well, they fit perfectly with the attitude of most of the girls! By the way, does someone know if eva is still working here?[/quote]+1 :d :) :d :)

At Samya Koln, Turkish management but they often come to you to ask if everything is going good for you.

I remember on a Sunday quite long time ago, I arrived at the opening to watch Formula 1, they played for me, they also always played at Sharks when I asked, only so hot Roberta. Ro disturbed me, but I succeeded to watch Austrian until the end, before being in fire in outside chalet at 4 pm under hot sun, but I don't forget tornado Roberta. Ro even only once, nearly 1 year ago. After Formula 1, I came to sit in the entrance not to listen to bad Samya music and to see better girls. From 4 to 6 pm, staff saw me sitting waiting, because Samya is slow in the afternoon. At 6 pm, Arkan came to ask if I couldn't find a girl, I answered no attractive girl for me, but maybe Valentina would be, I never saw her yet. He went to the desk to ask where was Valentina? When she arrived they say to her somebody was waiting for her, after her make up she came straight to me, I repeated on next week end with her. That's high level Turkish management at Samya, taking care of clients. They shake your hand when you arrive, when you leave at 5.30 am, they make you feel like a VIP.

At Sharks, also Turkish management, but who care only about money, about girls and clients quantity, but not anymore about quality, when it was my best on 2015 until Summer 2016 .

For those who look for quality, Sharks, Oase or Palace are only a few places among many others to discover. For example, yesterday on a Saturday at VIP GT, a Hungarian girl came to me, I didn't know her yet, when I saw her eyes and smile, I knew. Exceptional sweet GFE, touching her everywhere and deeply, chicken skin, hard nipples, smiles, kissing all along, my only disappointment was to fail to make her cum with cyprine going out of vagina, but she said and was so wet inside. As I enjoyed so much, bad timing management, 1 h15 when we arrived to lockers, I opened and she said only 100 , for over 1 hour, no extra asked for kissing, fingers, just kisses and smiles, so I said to her I would be proud she tell me how to make her fully cum for our next room on next week end, she answered not easy to make her, I answered it s important for me. Even in a brothel, kind of woman, like my LR girl, I want all of her.

That s what I call quality, for longer than 1 hour, for only 100 , in another very famous club. After her, when I did warm up with legendary Jane. De. Ru also only for 100 for 1 hour, but even lovely, can t compete for sexual level, I said not today to superstar Kate and didn't go with Madeleine. Good Saturday to relax my mind, far from LR, at GT.

Dear guys,

After reading a lot in here about Shark and Oase I tried both within the last week and I will try to give a Little personal overview. Maybe it is helpful for some People who did not know too much about both places before, and maybe some of you guys who are really well informed will leave a comment as well.

1.) Girls.

Of Course the most important for us, and the most difficult Topic to quote. Some of us like small boobs, others a lot of silicon. Some like extremely young, others experienced. Thin, Rubens-style, whatever. So what is good for me, not necessarily is good for you. Anyway some comments.

Majority in both places are Girls from Romania. Maybe 80-90 %. In my eyes Girls at Oase have been a Little bit younger and better looking, at sharks there have been some which had the best days some years ago. Anyway, the amount of Girls have been high in both places, maybe 50 o 60. So there should be somebody for everybody.

2.) Prices.

Entrance fee Sharks is 65, Oase 70. Both offer 50 on Wednesday. Oase also offers 50 if you come before 4 pm. No idea if sharks did the same.

3.) Clients.

I entered club both times around 5 pm and stayed till midnight. In my eyes the customers changed with the hours. As later, as more Young, loud, Turkish Clients came. Same in both places.

4.) Outdoor facilities.

Both places have a huge garden, including a lot of deck chairs. IMO Sharks is a bit better. Places to relax are more scattered. At Oase they are more concentrated around the pool. I like it to lay there in the sun, relax and look at the Girls walk on by. Unfortunately 80% of the Girls do not like to walk outside in the sun and stay in the smoky environment inside.

5.) Indoor facilities.

Shark seems to be bigger, but that's probably an Illusion. Sharks offers one big room around a bar, many Sofas everywhere. You can walk up some stairs to a whirl pool area, which is a Little more calm. Everywhere is smoke. Oases main room is much smaller (big enough anyway), so Girls are more concentrated. Whirlpool area is in a different part of the Building, as well as Sauna and as well a relax room, where Girls seems to be not allowed to enter. I didn't see something like that at sharks.

6.) Food.

Both OK, choice for main Courses have been definitely better at sharks, but Oase offered wonderful fruits. In this Point sharks is a Disaster.

7.) Staff.

In both places uninterested and under stress. In Peak times shower places are a bit dirty, over all it is OK.

Hope this can help a Little bit. Fun you can have in both places for sure.

[QUOTE=Germanboy2;2049463]Dear guys,

After reading a lot in here about Shark and Oase I tried both within the last week and I will try to give a Little personal overview. Maybe it is helpful for some People who did not know too much about both places before, and maybe some of you guys who are really well informed will leave a comment as well.

1.) Girls.

Of Course the most important for us, and the most difficult Topic to quote. Some of us like small boobs, others a lot of silicon. Some like extremely young, others experienced. Thin, Rubens-style, whatever. So what is good for me, not necessarily is good for you. Anyway some comments.

Majority in both places are Girls from Romania. Maybe 80-90 %. In my eyes Girls at Oase have been a Little bit younger and better looking, at sharks there have been some which had the best days some years ago. Anyway, the amount of Girls have been high in both places, maybe 50 o 60. So there should be somebody for everybody.

2.) Prices.

Entrance fee Sharks is 65, Oase 70. Both offer 50 on Wednesday. Oase also offers 50 if you come before 4 pm. No idea if sharks did the same.

3.) Clients.

I entered club both times around 5 pm and stayed till midnight. In my eyes the customers changed with the hours. As later, as more Young, loud, Turkish Clients came. Same in both places.

4.) Outdoor facilities.[/QUOTE]Good report.

[QUOTE=Germanboy2;2049463]Dear guys,

After reading a lot in here about Shark and Oase I tried both within the last week and I will try to give a Little personal overview. Maybe it is helpful for some People who did not know too much about both places before, and maybe some of you guys who are really well informed will leave a comment as well.

1.) Girls.

Of Course the most important for us, and the most difficult Topic to quote. Some of us like small boobs, others a lot of silicon. Some like extremely young, others experienced. Thin, Rubens-style, whatever. So what is good for me, not necessarily is good for you. Anyway some comments.

Majority in both places are Girls from Romania. Maybe 80-90 %. In my eyes Girls at Oase have been a Little bit younger and better looking, at sharks there have been some which had the best days some years ago. Anyway, the amount of Girls have been high in both places, maybe 50 o 60. So there should be somebody for everybody..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, just 5 PM is a bit late, if you can don't hesitate to go early morning, it will be another atmosphere just because no alcohol and the girls are really relax.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2049983]Jnp, Kaveman visit Globe, even if 150 girls at Sharks and 80 at Oase, who are the new Aurelia or Megan left there, for beauty?

Since last September, 2 Saturday visits at Oase and 5 week end visits at Sharks and except Megan until November, it was very difficult for me to find a girl looking like a classy sophisticated woman, with pretty face and slim natural body. Most of my visits were with full balls and money saved. Girls are more sophisticated care at Globe and I also find some at GT, LR, even Aca, among less girls, and with high GFE level without upselling for DFK, DATY, deep caresses. So I prefer not to waste anymore my time and money weekly in Hessen, I don't need 150 girls or even 10, because I m not able to fuck them, but I need at least 1 beauty to make me dream, like Megan did for more than 1 year weekly.

But if You can name a very few woman look natural beauty, I will be interested to meet them. I m always ready to taste beauties, but I don t run after little teeny girls, I need woman behaviour and look.[/QUOTE]Siri, I think we did overlap quite a bit in terms of girls' taste. We both liked Aylice very much, her two biggest fans on ISG. You liked Megan more than I did, but I sessioned with her every single time I was in the club per trip. Not every day, but at least once or twice in 4 days of trip. We liked Aurelia's optics. We both liked Mandy and Sandra. Probably Liz, the German girl and friend of Mandy. Way back when, I think you liked Anita who used to be in Sharks as I did. I didn't know Karin, Kate etc. But generally a good amount of overlap in general.

Aylice was like a girl to me and not so much a woman, so Regina who looks like a girl reminds me of Aylice. You might like Regina; I can't say for sure, impossible to predict as you know. I loved Regina, as you read from my report a few days ago. Mandy and Sandra are still in the club. Not sure if you will like the looks of Magda, but I know you are sensitive to smoky breath and she has some of that. I liked Selene, looks wise ok and very good service. I liked the look of Emma when I sessioned twice in March, although her service is just ok I suppose. There were another one or two girls with pretty good looks but I am blanking out on names now.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2050074]Siri, I think we did overlap quite a bit in terms of girls' taste. We both liked Aylice very much, her two biggest fans on ISG. You liked Megan more than I did, but I sessioned with her every single time I was in the club per trip. Not every day, but at least once or twice in 4 days of trip. We liked Aurelia's optics. We both liked Mandy and Sandra. Probably Liz, the German girl and friend of Mandy. Way back when, I think you liked Anita who used to be in Sharks as I did. I didn't know Karin, Kate etc. But generally a good amount of overlap in general.

Aylice was like a girl to me and not so much a woman, so Regina who looks like a girl reminds me of Aylice. You might like Regina; I can't say for sure, impossible to predict as you know. I loved Regina, as you read from my report a few days ago. Mandy and Sandra are still in the club. Not sure if you will like the looks of Magda, but I know you are sensitive to smoky breath and she has some of that. I liked Selene, looks wise ok and very good service. I liked the look of Emma when I sessioned twice in March, although her service is just ok I suppose. There were another one or two girls with pretty good looks but I am blanking out on names now.[/QUOTE]I loved our small Bulgarian princess Aylice because she was always smiling and I liked her smile and shining dark eyes, always lovely and very woman in bed with me, even more woman for our 2 hours on end of January 2016, after she got silicon. High sporty sexual potential even small body, but real woman vagina. Unfortunately and I never understood why, my mind never wanted to repeat after this great room, I cancelled many appointments, fortunately she got other big, long time rooms, clients. Anabel. Bu came once to me because of what she was said about me, but also what Aylice said about me. Anabel was a good surprise, but not on Aylice level for woman skill and behaviour. If 1,70 and not Bulgarian, Aylice would have been a Hessen superstar. Not so elegant, no so classy, no so sophisticated, but higher sexual level than Hessen and Globe superstar Kate / Katalina. Also higher level than Karin. Aylice was princess of sex, sweet or sporty.

Of course I also like Queen of kindness Sandra and I enjoyed my room with Mandy who is a bit like Aylice, little woman in a teeny body, but less hot, and when I went with Mandy on February, I saw Mandy for more than 6 months before. On this Saturday when I didn't go with Megan, smiling Mandy was the only one I could go with and I didn't regret because I took my time for 1 hour.

When I read about upselling disease at Sharks, I can just say: Go with lovely Mandy and Sandra, even no upselling experienced for me at Sharks, with Mersi, Gloria, Ada even she asked about CIM, but I prefer to fuck. Maybe because I m more a slow guy in room, after fast autobahns.

I only know my friend, blond, blue eyes Liz. De who is back at GT for my biggest pleasure. Even no more room with her since 4 years or no room yet with Ina at LR, I like very much how they are lovely with me, coming to me as soon they see me, Liz coming between her rooms. Between Ina, Jeni and Daria, my LR girl doesn't like so much when I stay with them, attraction for her woman sensuality, but relaxing time with 3 others.

I don t know who are Anita or Regina or Magda or Aylin. At I was said about. I just know, since Megan when was brunette on 2016 , I never saw a girl at Sharks, as soon I saw her I wanted her, like Aurelia at Samya before Sharks, or Megan at Mainhattan before Sharks, or Karin, or Kate / Katalina I waited for 6 hours on a slow Monday, like my LR girl as soon I saw only her face and smile when she was having diner, like Madi World when I looked at her walking like a model, swinging her ass and moving her long black hair. I need look attraction and since September, I find attractive girls in smaller clubs in NRW, not at big Sharks nor Oase. I promise You Kate Aca who is becoming VIP GT busy superstar, would also be Sharks or Oase busy superstar, even she doesn't seem to like I don t take my ticket to wait for her at GT, not my game to go after her many fat, and my new Hungarian or Madeleine are higher for me at GT, even I like Kate, and no sexy Kate at Sharks or Oase.

On a Saturday mid December, only 17 girls, not 150, at History Basel Liestal, but 5 to run after, I got only Mady and Andrea and I got on next visit lovely GF Lorena, but I missed Amelia and another one, and never saw them again. I don t remember I missed top beauties at Sharks or Oase for my last week end visits since September. Lena. De or Nastya with not exceptional faces were no regret for me, couldn't compete with Megan or Aurelia when not too heavy make up.

So I followed Turkish manager good advice, I prefer to spend my money where I enjoy more. Sharks and Oase are not anymore what they were, for beauties, for my eyes and mind pleasure.

Well, one thing I don't see is the complaints about upsells at Hessen clubs if you at the same time visit Globe. Which is an upsell from the get go. The entire country of switzerland is. A good reason to stay away.

Is Sharks (or Oase, Mainhatten etc.) the best option for the most beautiful girls in Frankfurt area OR are there escort agencies, brothels (for E. G. Similar to Aphrodisia in Zurich) the best place for the top shelf girls?

Assume price is not an object, but only to be with the true top quality girls.

Thanks in advance for your response (s).

Hi all,

Can anyone advice on the price of the VIP facilities / Rooms in Sharks? I'm looking to rent it for the hour as opposed to the whole night.

I"m aware that in Oase you can rent it by the hour, will that be the case for Sharks?

[QUOTE=GlobalPunter;2050356]Hi all,

Can anyone advice on the price of the VIP facilities / Rooms in Sharks? I'm looking to rent it for the hour as opposed to the whole night.

I"m aware that in Oase you can rent it by the hour, will that be the case for Sharks?[/QUOTE]I think it is 300€/ h, Champagne bottle included. I've already been there without paying, the girl just lead me there and I followed, it is just more spacious.

[QUOTE=Jersey135;2050261]Is Sharks (or Oase, Mainhatten etc.) the best option for the most beautiful girls in Frankfurt area OR are there escort agencies, brothels (for E. G. Similar to Aphrodisia in Zurich) the best place for the top shelf girls?

Assume price is not an object, but only to be with the true top quality girls.

Thanks in advance for your response (s).[/QUOTE]Don't go in Sharks if you want top quality.

[QUOTE=GlobalPunter;2050356]Hi all,

Can anyone advice on the price of the VIP facilities / Rooms in Sharks? I'm looking to rent it for the hour as opposed to the whole night.

I"m aware that in Oase you can rent it by the hour, will that be the case for Sharks?[/QUOTE]I believe it cost 300/ h.

And you pay the girl 100/ h.

Instead 50/ half h.

I was chilling sitting on a chair outside a bar in Soho this weekend and noticed someone familiar walking down the street but I couldn't place her first. Then I saw that she was walking with an Asian dude which triggered my memory at the Sharks and realized that it was Dora. She saw me looking at her and saw a recognition in her eyes before she quickly turned away. I had a few rooms with her and I really liked her. BUT, I didn't recognize her because, for one, she was wearing clothing but also she got heavy. She had looked tall and slender (with saggy bags) back at the Sharks but now she looked a bit like a plus sized model. She didn't dress like she was doing any escort, I mean no makeup and messy hair, but who knows. She is gone for like 3 months now? I missed her when she left but she isn't my type anymore. She wasn't fat but looked more like a female rugby player heavy if you know what I mean. I can't imagine her making any business in Sharks if she ever comes back. And she looked much older than her 22 years. A club life ruins girls. Sad.

Would like to ask what do you guys think is the best day to visit Sharks on weekends? I usually went Sharks on Wednesdays but thought may have better line up on weekends.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Amspascha;2050470]Would like to ask what do you guys think is the best day to visit Sharks on weekends? I usually went Sharks on Wednesdays but thought may have better line up on weekends.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Wednesday LU is good due to discount entry price many mongers so many girls, Friday and Saturday you can expect 20% more girls.

Throughout the years BBBJ and DATY have always been included in the 30 minute 50 euro program. I find it interesting that the service that the providers have chosen to upsell is DATY as I believe that it is more enjoyable for them and takes much less effort than BBBJ or rather no effort at all. So far this trip the majority of girls tell me that for DATY either I pay 50 e more per 1/2 hr session or I extend it to 1 hr. However, no one has upsold me on BBBJ and all have given it to me in the room for 1/2 hr without any mention of covering up while last year some actually asked me to put on a condom for BJ. The girls seem much more willing to provide BBBJ this year.

[QUOTE=Amspascha;2050470]Would like to ask what do you guys think is the best day to visit Sharks on weekends? I usually went Sharks on Wednesdays but thought may have better line up on weekends.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Both days should have large casting, not meaning many beauties. Less crowded and more fresh girls on Friday afternoon. Some girls also don t come for Saturday tourists 50 € rooms.

My friend blond German Liz told me her best day with long time rooms clients is on Monday. Night and week ends clients are not as good. Another Sharks German superstar told me the same 2 years ago, so she didn't work so often on Saturday and never with night Sharks clients.

Turgid, bc they want us to get hooked before upselling on BBBJ from 1st July 😡.

Guess the reason for the upsell on DATY is bc there many guys like YY that will pay extra to do DATY for 40 min 😂.

They just play with their phone and fake the big O LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2050608]Throughout the years BBBJ and DATY have always been included in the 30 minute 50 euro program. I find it interesting that the service that the providers have chosen to upsell is DATY as I believe that it is more enjoyable for them and takes much less effort than BBBJ or rather no effort at all. So far this trip the majority of girls tell me that for DATY either I pay 50 e more per 1/2 hr session or I extend it to 1 hr. However, no one has upsold me on BBBJ and all have given it to me in the room for 1/2 hr without any mention of covering up while last year some actually asked me to put on a condom for BJ. The girls seem much more willing to provide BBBJ this year.[/QUOTE]Maybe because I'm quite new to go to prostitutes because when I had girlfriends I didn't need, maybe because I had some great girlfriends, but I always started kissing and caressing my girl, with foreplay, before sex, sometimes kissing and caressing for hours without BBBJ nor sex.

When I experience little robot jumping to suck me, before kissing, I stop the girl, I don't like this kind of sex. No kissing, no foreplay, then can't enjoy with these kind of robot girls.

You can experience big difference between top girls used to kiss, to foreplay, and little robot schoolgirl type like at Oase who have no sensuality, no woman behavior, just technique, but only a very few prostitutes are really skillful for BBBJ.

When you speak with average girls, not top girls, sucking, CIM, even swallowing, being fucked like goat in all positions, being fucked in the ass by small sizes, is easier for them, because less intimate than kissing, not baby kiss of course, or losing control to give you to drink their cyprine. Cyprine is like sperm, rich food. YY is used like me to drink, much energetic than Red Bull.

That's why they ask for extra for DFK and DATY, not for BBBJ, nor sex. I will never pay for DFK and DATY, because I want real woman behavior, and girls who are real woman don't ask for extra for this, some even say: thank you, when you make them cum.

Fortunately, can find real woman behavior girls in FKK.

How long is your tour? How many days are enough and how many days are too long?

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2047144]Arrived at 11 am.

1) Daria: 1120-1210,100 E /1 h (because no kiss would be given for 50 E /30 min), the first time in the past 1. 5 years. In a room DFK, caressing, 23 min DATY with her silent O, 7 min BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary, unsuccessful CIM and pillow talk are what we enjoyed. May repeat.

2) Natalia: 1225-1305,100 E /1 h (because no kiss and no DATY would be given for 50 E /30 min), long black hair, 158 cm, petit, 3 years at Sharks, a friend of Daria. On an outdoor bed we enjoyed DFK, caressing, 15 min teasing DATY with her intense O, BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary, at 30 min mark, doggie and her playing with my dick. May not repeat.

3) Sorana: 1340-1435,100 E /1 h, the first time in the past one year at Oase as Natalia. On an outdoor bed DFK, caressing, 7 min DATY with her silent O, missionary, doggie, at 22 min mark, my second DATY with her second silent O, my massage on her and her good massage and me. Repeat.

4) Eliza: 1500-1520 (excluding 10 min as tip), 50 E /30 min, German, 30 yo, 165 cm, long blonde, fairly pretty, average figure. In a room we enjoyed DFK, caressing, 7 min DATY leading her to O, additional 3 min DATY, BBBJ and no intercourse due to my junior's condition. May repeat.

Left at 4 pm.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2050810]Maybe because I'm quite new to go to prostitutes because when I had girlfriends I didn't need, maybe because I had some great girlfriends, but I always started kissing and caressing my girl, with foreplay, before sex, sometimes kissing and caressing for hours without BBBJ nor sex.

When I experience little robot jumping to suck me, before kissing, I stop the girl, I don't like this kind of sex. No kissing, no foreplay, then can't enjoy with these kind of robot girls.

You can experience big difference between top girls used to kiss, to foreplay, and little robot schoolgirl type like at Oase who have no sensuality, no woman behavior, just technique, but only a very few prostitutes are really skillful for BBBJ.

When you speak with average girls, not top girls, sucking, CIM, even swallowing, being fucked like goat in all positions, being fucked in the ass by small sizes, is easier for them, because less intimate than kissing, not baby kiss of course, or losing control to give you to drink their cyprine. Cyprine is like sperm, rich food. YY is used like me to drink, much energetic than Red Bull.

That's why they ask for extra for DFK and DATY, not for BBBJ, nor sex. I will never pay for DFK and DATY, because I want real woman behavior, and girls who are real woman don't ask for extra for this, some even say: thank you, when you make them cum.

Fortunately, can find real woman behavior girls in FKK.[/QUOTE]My experience is that women are different and it is futile to pigeon hole them into real women and non-real women categories based on their service. Some women may just be more desperate for money than others and that does not make them less of a woman than the less needy ones.

Similarly, men are different, I have never in my life spent hours kissing a girlfriend, not even my ex-wife, maybe it was because I have never been in love, perhaps if I had been I would not be in this hobby. Also, I rarely ever spend more than five minutes doing DATY even with the most gorgeous provider which is why I don't like paying extra for it. I once saw a documentary on how to make a woman come orally and it requires a lot of patience on the doer's part, I tried it on a Colombian provider once and she did come after about twenty minutes. I like FS too much to spend so much time doing cunilingus on a provider, I rather spend that time banging her. The short of my story is that for me with hookers it's all about banging them and getting off. DATY and DFK are enjoyable but mostly to assist in my erection. If I want to spend tons of time kissing and DATYing I'd get a lover.

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[QUOTE=Turgid;2051080]My experience is that women are different and it is futile to pigeon hole them into real women and non-real women categories based on their service. Some women may just be more desperate for money than others and that does not make them less of a woman than the less needy ones.

Similarly, men are different, I have never in my life spent hours kissing a girlfriend, not even my ex-wife, maybe it was because I have never been in love, perhaps if I had been I would not be in this hobby. Also, I rarely ever spend more than five minutes doing DATY even with the most gorgeous provider which is why I don't like paying extra for it. I once saw a documentary on how to make a woman come orally and it requires a lot of patience on the doer's part, I tried it on a Colombian provider once and she did come after about twenty minutes. I like FS too much to spend so much time doing cunilingus on a provider, I rather spend that time banging her. The short of my story is that for me with hookers it's all about banging them and getting off. DATY and DFK are enjoyable but mostly to assist in my erection. If I want to spend tons of time kissing and DATYing I'd get a lover.[/QUOTE]Each one own kind of sex of course, I m a kisser lover and I always experienced women who love you want to kiss you very often, if you don't have bad teeth, or ashtray, or beer breathe. Same with WGs, some come to kiss you, you don't need to force them. Cyprine is my favorite drink, what a cocktail with champagne, but I agree with most of girls you have to take time, to be patient, sometimes need 30 mn, sometimes 45, to be lucky to drink her juice, but then, girl will behave in different way for sex with you.

Kissing without upselling and woman behavior girls are the busiest, Sandra. De or Mandy. De are the busiest at Sharks, same in all clubs, Katalina is a superstar everywhere she works. Girls who are not able to kiss, or don't know how to fluently kiss, hunting upselling, usually get less business, so they can be desperate about their low level potential for GFE services.

No enjoyable sex which only worth to pay for, without fluently kissing and sweet caresses before starting sex.

When I finished my first room for 1 hour with Sandra on January 2015, she was a so magic GFE, she was the only girl among my few girls in FKK, I couldn't remember her name, so I went with her shameful, to ask her again. She answered: you already forget me? No, I was just dreaming because she was a real illusion.

On the other hand, when you know a bit about guys, it was funny to read smoking guys writing a girl was kissing, and not smoking guys writing she doesn't really kiss, maybe she enjoyed to kiss only ashtrays.

What is the sweet spot without it being too long? I see people up to 13 days.

[QUOTE=CityBox;2050989]How long is your tour? How many days are enough and how many days are too long?[/QUOTE]

I haven't been back to Sharks for a while. My last two trips were really disappointing. At one time it was my favourite FKK. Those days are sadly well gone.

Arrived today (Thursday) and the heat in and out of the club was intense. Not the fault of the club of course. On the upside, this meant that a lot of girls around 5 pm were by the pool lounging on sun beds. But this was by a long way the worst line up I've ever seen not only at this club but at any FKK. I was truly shocked. Of the 70 or 80 girls I would say that at least one 60% were fat. I'm not talking about a few extra pounds / curvy. I mean truly overweight and completely unappealing. I'd spent the previous evening in Scandalo in Malaga. There were only 3 girls in Sharks who would have been able to get a single customer in Scandalo. The LU in Spain and its clubs at the moment is just miles ahead of Sharks. I was in Munich at FKK Sunshine a few weeks ago and the LU there was superb. I reported on it. Several really slim, busty, attractive girls = it was hard to choose.

It was also hard to choose in Sharks. But not in a positive way. The average on looks was around 4 out of 10 and that is generous.

My first room was with a pretty girl called Adina from Berlin. She is a regular at Artemis and is working at Sharks temporarily. Pretty face, body a little overweight. But slim by the standards I saw at Sharks today, and a great attitude. Short 30 minutes and thought I would repeat due to poor alternatives.

I spotted a girl with long blonde hair with enormous boobs who I wanted to session with. She is Cheyenne (not from Artemis fame). Spoke to her and her Moldavian friend whose name I forget. 30 minutes in room with them both was forgettable. The blonde with the big tits was one of those hold your cock when you are fucking her brigade which I cannot stand. I am not small but I am no stallion and she was pathetic at taking it. Waste of money.

I then spotted one gem. Long dark hair, silicones but amazing body. Athletic, big lips (false) and big eyelashes but very pretty face and big smile. The only girl at 8/10 in the whole club. Her name is Paulina. Romanian. Body to die for. I waited for her to finish a room with a previous customer and then pounced. 1. 5 hours later and one of the best experiences in an FKK I can recall. Her service level was outstanding. Attitude 100%. No upselling at all. The DFK was passionate, intense, and unrelenting. This girl knows how to press every button. She almost comes with a guarantee of satisfaction. No holding cock nonsense. On the contrary. Regular encouragement to fuck her harder in every position. If I had not started with her at 12.30 am I would have had 3 hours with her. She is a delight. Pleasant, pretty and service is 10/10.

She saved the night. Sharks is a shadow of what it was 2 years ago. World fell from grace, then Oase and now Sharks. At 12.20 I was thinking that it will be a long time before I will return here. The city is boring and now the options are poor. Munich, Stuttgart, Berlin and Dusseldorf are all much better. Except of course for the amazing Paulina. I'd return just to see her. She is the Elizabeth Hungary of Sharks.

To the member who asked if he needed more than a few days. You'll need one only at Sharks and you'll go elsewhere. Current you is genuinely hopeless unless you like very large unattractive girls. But ask for Paulina. Looks a little Asian with her very black hair. But is not. She is a gem amongst an awful lot of large stones. Sorry to be brutal but its true. This club has declined badly. The heat in the club meant it was empty most of the night. There is no air con. I realise Germany is normally cold. But this was unbearable. Sharks lost its bite for me. I'll return in another 12 months or so if the reports show a huge increase in quality.

PFI. Sorry that you didn't have a good time at Sharks. But based on your past history, I could have predicted that; after each Sharks visit, you came back and expressed your disappointment here. And you are a very honest writer and valuable contributor, but I think you are being a bit too harsh. Clearly, Sharks doesn't agree with you, but you have your tastes. If I go to Artemis, or Spain, and I don't like the LU, I will come back and write here that I personally didn't like the LU. I won't say that the girls appeal only to people who like unattractive girls. Frankly, that's a very insulting statement. There are hundreds of men visiting Sharks every week, and having a good time. To somehow think that they all must have poor taste is hubris, in my mind. I didn't like Artemis girls in 2013 and 2014, but I will not claim those girls appealed to people with poor tastes. I would have said they were not my type, and left it there.

Also, it's widely known that Sharks is miserable when it's too hot due to their deficient air con. This fact alone probably shifted a bunch of customers elsewhere on hot days. Consequently, the top girls probably knew to stay away since business would likely be so miserable, not to mention the fact of the guys getting more a lot sweaty than usual on them.

[QUOTE=CityBox;2051231]What is the sweet spot without it being too long? I see people up to 13 days.[/QUOTE]That depends on how many times you fuck per day, and if you visit FKK's every day / night. Personally I have done 8 days in a row at most. But that is too much as I allways averages 3+ sessions a day. And that really kills me and feels like a marathon when reaching day 7-8...

Those who do 7+ days should either take a day off, or have a day or two in the middle where they only perhaps do 1 girl maximum.

3-4 days is the sweetspot if you go all out and fuck 4-5 girls a day / night. For me the sweetspot has been exactly 4 days and then I hold back a little bit and try not go over board the first days with too many rooms. But perhaps different for different guys. Right now I am considering either a 10 day germany/austria trip with 8 fkk days. Or I'll cut it shorter without days off going just 1 country.

But your own physique is very relevant too. If you are fit, propped with aprodisiacs and haven't had sex for a week or two, you can probably fuck twice as many girls as if you were lazy prior to your trip, smoke, drink beer and have a fatty belly.

But alot of people want to do some sightseeing while in germany too, so taking 1-2 days off in the middle doing other things makes it less mundane... I once met a japanese guy who did a 3 months trip. Or maybe it was even longer than that. Visiting fkk's over half the days... mostly sharks on his part... I don's see why one would stay that long at one club, but ai guess I also once did artemis too often not even looking elsewhere...

PFI: You can still find gems in all clubs. Too bad half of them only stay shortly, perhaps a week, and then they move on...

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2051322].... widely known that Sharks is miserable when it's too hot due to their deficient air con ....[/QUOTE]I remember last Sunday around 8 pm when the thunderstorm took place. Afterwards inside it was like in a terrarium and up from that moment fucking outside in one if the wooden huts with the simple air tubes on top should have been less sweaty than staying inside talking and sitting around.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2051318]PFI. Sorry that you didn't have a good time at Sharks. But based on your past history, I could have predicted that; after each Sharks visit, you came back and expressed your disappointment here. And you are a very honest writer and valuable contributor, but I think you are being a bit too harsh. Clearly, Sharks doesn't agree with you, but you have your tastes. If I go to Artemis, or Spain, and I don't like the LU, I will come back and write here that I personally didn't like the LU. I won't say that the girls appeal only to people who like unattractive girls. Frankly, that's a very insulting statement. There are hundreds of men visiting Sharks every week, and having a good time. To somehow think that they all must have poor taste is hubris, in my mind. I didn't like Artemis girls in 2013 and 2014, but I will not claim those girls appealed to people with poor tastes. I would have said they were not my type, and left it there.[/QUOTE]I wrote so many times Sharks was my best casting in Germany, higher than VIP GT, in 2015 until last Summer, but I can't write anymore, even maybe the largest casting, but I prefer only 1 Megan sister.

PFI, if I found a Paulina but with light make up, no silicon, no Botox, duck lips, with passionate behavior like yours, she would make my day and night, taking her in wood chalet, elephant room and mirror room, for different games to enjoy.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2051314]I haven't been back to Sharks for a while. My last two trips were really disappointing. At one time it was my favourite FKK. Those days are sadly well gone.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report: you gave an appreciation on the line up and remember names. If only more members could do the same you might have postponed your visit at Sharks. I will postpone mine unless someone tell me Nastia is back. Next one will be GT.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2051318]PFI. Sorry that you didn't have a good time at Sharks. But based on your past history, I could have predicted that; after each Sharks visit, you came back and expressed your disappointment here. And you are a very honest writer and valuable contributor, but I think you are being a bit too harsh. Clearly, Sharks doesn't agree with you, but you have your tastes. If I go to Artemis, or Spain, and I don't like the LU, I will come back and write here that I personally didn't like the LU. I won't say that the girls appeal only to people who like unattractive girls. Frankly, that's a very insulting statement. There are hundreds of men visiting Sharks every week, and having a good time. To somehow think that they all must have poor taste is hubris, in my mind. I didn't like Artemis girls in 2013 and 2014, but I will not claim those girls appealed to people with poor tastes. I would have said they were not my type, and left it there.[/QUOTE]Hi Jnpr30. I've re read my post (partly written in haste and frustration and partly alcohol infused!)

I think you make good points. I certainly didn't mean to insult anybody by suggesting those who like the club only like unattractive girls. At every club there is someone for everybody and that still turned out to be the case for me at Sharks last night and Paulina was truly exceptional. You are right that we all have different tastes and that must be true because I saw guys coming down those stairs last night with girls they had roomed with who most certainly did not appeal to me.

I made my point badly. I was shocked at the LU. If you go back to my very first post about Frankfurt clubs a few years ago (I think 2013 or 2014) I liked to rank the clubs I'd been to on my tour. I ranked Sharks top. I still like the layout of the club, the garden even more so as it has of course been hugely improved since works a couple of years ago and the improved massage area is good. The food was very good last night both outdoors and indoors. But the LU has most certainly changed from being predominantly slim young girls (which I accept might not be every man's taste) to now include not just a token older lady (I refer to the previous exploits of the infamous Sylvanna) but several. Last night there were a lot of girls who are, at least to my thinking, very overweight. If some guys go for that look, and enjoy being with larger ladies I'm pleased for them and also for those ladies. I didn't intend to disrespect either. And it's good that we all have different tastes otherwise we'd all be aiming at the same girl or girls. But in terms of enjoying even sitting in the garden watching one sexy modeleque girl after another walk by, that was not what I experienced at Sharks yesterday. If slim, model like girls are your thing, and I suspect it is what a lot of guys do like, then the club presently ranks poorly. We all talk in terms of how many 8's 9's etc there are in clubs. One man's 9 could be another man's 5 but unlikely I think.

There is clearly some attraction at Sharks for me to keep returning despite several disappointing visits. As UltraHappy says, correctly, the lack of a decent aircon system didn't help. But I think I could have lived with it had the optics been great. Artemis is famed for its girls with tattoos and sillies and there can be no doubt there are a lot of both there although I always seem to have a great time there and neither are to my liking. It was just a shock to see what I considered to be a very serious demise in the quality of LU at Sharks. But things change. Oase was amazing for a year. Perhaps Sharks will return to former glories. I hope so. I regretted staying in Darmstadt last night as had I stayed in Frankfurt I think I would have left and gone to another club but I didn't know if there was any other club close to Sharks to move to. In the end, I'm glad I didn't move - Paulina was terrific and I did enjoy my short time with Adina.

Apologies to anyone who felt offended by my previous post. That was certainly not my intention at all. My frustration at what I considered to be a very poor LU got the better of me!

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2051322]Also, it's widely known that Sharks is miserable when it's too hot due to their deficient air con. This fact alone probably shifted a bunch of customers elsewhere on hot days. Consequently, the top girls probably knew to stay away since business would likely be so miserable, not to mention the fact of the guys getting more a lot sweaty than usual on them.[/QUOTE]Sorry I was there this Wednesday until 6 PM and there were many customers and also a great LU. Shark is not my favorite club but it is difficult to complain about the LU, I am very curious to know which FKK in Germany has a larger LU. All the senior mongers are aware that in summer time many girls are working the day to enjoy the pool etc. So it is better to go there in the afternoon.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2051322]Also, it's widely known that Sharks is miserable when it's too hot due to their deficient air con. This fact alone probably shifted a bunch of customers elsewhere on hot days. Consequently, the top girls probably knew to stay away since business would likely be so miserable, not to mention the fact of the guys getting more a lot sweaty than usual on them.[/QUOTE]I am really confused right now what to do. Normally I was very clear about my choices. Last time I was in NRW and this time I chose FRA. Flight tickets, hotel and car reservations completed and paid. But I understand that I must choose NRW. Of course I can take the 200 Km by car for GT or LR or maybe for Samya but honestly I don't want to. I already learn the Air Con problem of Sharks.

I was planning (this week) Sunday Sharks, Tuesday Oase and Wednesday (World or Sharks or Oase depends on my recent experience.) Oase is loosing points because of bad service levels due to last reports. Sharks Air Con problem. If I go to NRW I would have to pay additional hotel costs. GT was very nice last time. I really enjoyed and a perfect selection for a Sunday but I really dont know what to do now.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2051410]I am really confused right now what to do. Normally I was very clear about my choices. Last time I was in NRW and this time I chose FRA. Flight tickets, hotel and car reservations completed and paid. But I understand that I must choose NRW. Of course I can take the 200 Km by car for GT or LR or maybe for Samya but honestly I don't want to. I already learn the Air Con problem of Sharks.

I was planning (this week) Sunday Sharks, Tuesday Oase and Wednesday (World or Sharks or Oase depends on my recent experience.) Oase is loosing points because of bad service levels due to last reports. Sharks Air Con problem. If I go to NRW I would have to pay additional hotel costs. GT was very nice last time. I really enjoyed and a perfect selection for a Sunday but I really dont know what to do now.[/QUOTE]You leave FRA at 9.30 am, You arrive at GT around noon for breakfast. You leave GT at 10.45 pm after new pizzas, you will be in bed around 1 am in FRA, to sleep more than 8 hours like a baby, but dreaming about attractive girls. You can have siesta in GT garden.

Maybe FKK First, less than 1 hour south FRA worth at the moment. Atlanta Hanau big brother.

Enjoy beauties.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2051314]At one time it was my favourite FKK. Those days are sadly well gone. Arrived today (Thursday) and the heat in and out of the club was intense. [/QUOTE]I am not a very frequent visitor, but I have been visiting Sharks reasonably regularly about 1-2 days every 2-3 months ever since the year it first opened.

I really have not sensed any change in the average quality of the line up over the last 3 years. But it does change dramatically between seasons, between months, and between the days of the week. (with Thursday, the day of the week you visited, being the worst day from my experience).

If I compare the line-up on a Saturday 2 years ago, a Wednesday last year, and a Thursday 2 weeks ago, I would conclude that it has deteriorated tremendously. But if I compare that of a Thursday 2 years ago, a Wednesday last year and a Saturday this month, then I could confidently assert that it has greatly improved.

My mood also plays a critical factor. If I am feeling moody, agitated or tired from travelling, or have had a really great time with other girls in another club the days before, then most girls might appear unappealing on that day - not slim enough, not smiling, aggressive, arrogant, pestering, etc.

Conversely, when I am feeling happy, or sex-starved, then many girls appear appealing and the problem then is which to take.

And it is a vicious cycle. Good mood leads to good sessions (not always, but much of the time) which improves my mood, leading to even better subsequent sessions. Sometimes I end up on a high at the end of the day, having to stop just due to exhaustion.

When I am in a bad mood at the start (especially if a favorite I hoped meet is not around), then no session is good, and things get worse till I call it quits.

So my approach now is to tell myself to be happy; and so far most days have gone very well for me.

(Postscript: temperature does affect my mood. So after the sweaty day at Sharks, I spent most of my remaining days in the cool of the garden and (too cold) airconditioned rooms in World in my last trip just completed.)

My criticism of Sharks would not be so much the physical appearance of the girls but more the mercenary attitude. Too much upselling. However, there are yet a few more girls I would like to session with before moving on to another club. A criticism I have which I have not seen much mention of but observe is the number of customers; frankly, some of the days I have attended were somewhat of a sausage fest.

Thursday - 6/15.

Arrived into FRA and picked up the rental car and go to the club at 7:30 pm. Paid my 65 euro got my slippers and robe and in I went. The weather was certainly hot and I didn't realize it was a German public holiday but attributing to a low number of men in the club and many providers around with not a lot to do. The line was good and I ended up having a room with Jennifer, very girl next door dyed blonde with dark roots and says she is half Russian and half Romanian. She struck up a conversation with me at the bar and I felt a good vibe and decided that I hadn't had a blonde in a while. So. Off we go. She was was fun in the room but I don't think I would repeat.

Friday - 6/16.

Decided to make a day of it and got there just before 12 noon. The day was starting off hotter than the day before. The line up was pretty slim at the open but it improved in numbers as the day went on. Again, sitting at the bar I was approached by Sharde (Sharday) a dyed redhead Romanian. Got a good vibe and decided to have a room with her. She was good in the room and gave a pretty good back massage too. I had dinner afterwards and I saw Ada who I first had a room with at Finca a year ago. Ada has been mentioned previously on this board as possibly being cold and not really approachable but for me she is just my spec. Thin, model like and to me, we really clicked. I had a great hour in the room with her. By the way, she has a near look-alike in the club who is Diana and I had made the mistake of thinking Diana was her. More on that in the following Thursday visit.

Thursday - 6/22.

Wash and repeat but about one week later. I arrive at the club around 1 pm. It's overcast, hot and humid. I spent time in the garden catching up on my reading. I decided to go back into the club around 2 pm and see what is going on. The line up was pretty light in numbers and in looks but I see who I think is Ada and walk over to her and say Hi. It's Diana and I should have noticed as she has the white shoes and Ada has the silver shoes. This was told to me by Ada the week before as to how to tell them apart. I chat with Diana for a bit but the chemistry is not there. Her looks definitely work for me since she is physically Ada but with bigger tits and slightly shorter hair. Anyways, I decide to continue to look around and this girl waves me over. She looks somewhat familiar and she introduces herself. Low and behold it is Ester (Esther). I had a room with her a year ago but it looks like she has added a little weight and her hair is less blonde. I decide that she would be the first for the day and went with her to the room. In short, she wanted to get it over with as soon as possible and it was. 50 euros and done. She really didn't want to have much / any foreplay. Right to BJ and sex. I thought I would have a good time as I did last year with her but alas, not. Perhaps she was having a bad day or week and later Ada, who is Ester's friend said that she was not in a good mood. Oh well. We all have our days. Finally, Ada came to the club and I had a nice long room with her. Same as I did when I was last at Finca with her. I spent 2. 5 hours in the room with her. She is just the best and I had a great time with her.

Well, my summer trip is now over. I did get the sense from my three visits that for Sharks things seem slow and the energy and vibe of the club has decreased from my previous visits. But, taken in light of the weather and low number of men in the club and the girls not being in the best of moods because they aren't making money is a recipe for a downward spiral at least for my visits. BBBJ was still offered as part of the service and I didn't encounter any providers asking for extra for it. But I digress as this has been discussed in depth on this and other FKK threads already. As for the line up, well, for me there is enough to choose from and certainly the large number of girls insures that there are some that met my spec, pass the chemistry test (which fails me at times) and I have a good experience for the most part. There were light improvements going on as it appeared they were building an enclosed sauna area to the left of the exit to the garden area. I think what they really should do is invest in air conditioning for the rooms as it make things a bit more comfortable. With the upcoming changes in the condom law I wonder if this will reduces the number of visitors more.

Till the next time. Happy wellness seeking!

Well put TankTank. Thursdays are a terrible day at Sharks. And although I know some girls are taking vacations these days since I was there 2 weeks ago, I doubt the lineup has completely died of in this short amount of time. Optically for me Sharks 2 weeks ago seemed to be about equal to how it was 2-3 years ago. I remember the first 2-3 times I was at Sharks at the end of 2014 and early 15. I was not at all impressed. Actually I considerred never returning. The lineup looked so bad and terrible optically. But after some more visits awhile later I noticed the main problem of Sharks lies in how infrequent the top girls are present at the club. And it took awhile for me to notice them. And thursdays are perhaps the 2nd worst day of the week at Sharks. Maybe only 2nd to tuesdays (although I have never attended on a Tuesday I believe).

But I did see perhaps slightly more people at Oase and perhaps slightly less at Sharks. So the competition between the two is reversing a bit after over a year when Sharks had the majority of customers it seemed like to me... perhaps people also wants a bit more diversity as alot of locals have perhaps been favoring sharks too much...

[QUOTE=Turgid;2051440]My criticism of Sharks would not be so much the physical appearance of the girls but more the mercenary attitude. Too much upselling. [/QUOTE]This I totally agree with. Upselling has been rising rapidly over the past 2 years. But so far, at least in my experience, they have not resorted to a nasty reaction like the Oase girls when I say no.

A unique approach taken by Amalia and gang here is to state preemptively before the interview could even get going that kissing is excluded in a 50 euro session. 3 of them had already done so with me in the past. On each of those occasions I tried to argue with the girl before walking off.

In my most recent visit, immediately after the exchange of pleasantries, Stefani (whom I did not know whether or not is part of the Amalia gang as that was the first time I saw her) said immediately "no kissing for 30 minutes room". I replied "no kissing no room" and walked off immediately. She chased after me and said "OK, kissing for 30 minutes". And we did have a good session, that I finally did extend to 1 hour at the 25-minute mark.

It took me stupidly until this trip to remember that immediately walking away without first attempting to bargain is often the best way to make the sellers of wares capitulate.

PFI. As I said, you are a very honest writer and pen very helpful comments and reports. I didn't mean to come down harshly on you personally. If I did or appeared that way, my apologies. And constructive criticism is always the most important feedback one can receive, and no one (least of all, the club) wants a situation of "emperor has no clothes" until it becomes obvious to everyone. So, thanks for your very valid points.

TT, I don't like to deal with that. She coming running back and says ok for 30. I'm not going to run around like a desperate guy looking for 30 min room for whoever. Only girls I'm concered are ones I'm attracted. If they are the ones I'm running into 1hr minimum proposals for fuller service, It makes for a disappointing visit, others I could care less.

When the girl proposes that I lose interest fast. Who know how much she downgrades her service. I don't like the idea of that goes on in clubs. That is the precisely the reason I avoided Palace when it was the main club for that.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2051472]This I totally agree with. Upselling has been rising rapidly over the past 2 years. But so far, at least in my experience, they have not resorted to a nasty reaction like the Oase girls when I say no.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2051472]
It took me stupidly until this trip to remember that immediately walking away without first attempting to bargain is often the best way to make the sellers of wares capitulate.[/QUOTE]Good advice moving forward with new law coming. I always break negotiations. You can always return to bargaining table at a later time.

Never had a WG "capitulate" immediately. Usually it is a subsequent visit.

Many predicted it would be an uptick in customers in the weeks leading to July 1st. I haven't noticed a difference. Actually, business seemed slow on my last three visits to Sharks. Only heard it was busy on the Wednesday before public holiday.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2051495]
Many predicted it would be an uptick in customers in the weeks leading to July 1st. I haven't noticed a difference. Actually, business seemed slow on my last three visits to Sharks. Only heard it was busy on the Wednesday before public holiday.[/QUOTE]Indeed at the Hessen clubs is low business the last time (one effect Ramadan), there isn't no last chance BBBJ rally. We must wait if additional P6 business move from street walkers, apartments, escorts or RLD to FKK club scene otherwise I doubt that all German FKK clubs can survive in the future.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2051492]TT, I don't like to deal with that. She coming running back and says ok for 30. I'm not going to run around like a desperate guy looking for 30 min room for whoever. Only girls I'm concered are ones I'm attracted. If they are the ones I'm running into 1hr minimum proposals for fuller service, It makes for a disappointing visit, others I could care less.

When the girl proposes that I lose interest fast. Who know how much she downgrades her service.[/QUOTE]I would agree with what you wrote. However this was exceptional as I was very attracted to Stefani. And she said "no kissing in 30 minute room" quite perfunctorily, as if reading out a mandatory statement in case she gets blacklisted by the trade union. Furthermore when she said OK, it was with a pleading look rather than a reluctant look, which made me conclude instantly that she was going to make our session work.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2051504]Indeed at the Hessen clubs is low business the last time (one effect Ramadan), there isn't no last chance BBBJ rally. We must wait if additional P6 business move from street walkers, apartments, escorts or RLD to FKK club scene otherwise I doubt that all German FKK clubs can survive in the future.[/QUOTE]For sure, Turkish make work Sharks and World nights since 2015. Same for Atlanta Hanau and quite same at Mainhattan and Palace. Another world at VIP GT where no Ramadan effect.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2051440]My criticism of Sharks would not be so much the physical appearance of the girls but more the mercenary attitude. Too much upselling. [/QUOTE]I asked more than 10 girls last night in Sharks what the attitude to the new law will be. Several smiled a lot. It is very clear that BBBJ will still be on offer but as an extra. I asked how much and the standard response was an extra 50 e as they are taking a risk. Wow!

One girl, Adina, explained to me that she will no longer give BBBJ whether for more money or not. She said a lot of police do come into the club to check things out and if a girl offers BBBJ in future she is likely to be prosecuted. I argued that I didn't think offering a BBBJ was an offence. Just giving one. She said she wouldn't risk it! Sensible perhaps.

In the short term at least, I think lovers of BBBJ will find it costly. One great tip a girl wrote on another thread and another member told me about is to ask the girl to hold a condom in one hand whilst BBBJ with the other hand on your manhood. If the room door opened the girl stops to explain she is about to put the condom on with her mouth. Doesn't get round the police issue but would get around most other risks.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2051544] an extra 50 e as they are taking a risk. Wow!

She said a lot of police do come into the club to check things out and if a girl offers BBBJ in future she is likely to be prosecuted. [/QUOTE]BBBJ is no risk (besides the health risk) for the girl. There are no fines for the girls and no prosecution. Maybe you should carry a piece of paper with the relevant passages from the law in German, English, Romanian and Bulgarian with you.

HB.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2051544]In the short term at least, I think lovers of BBBJ will find it costly. One great tip a girl wrote on another thread and another member told me about is to ask the girl to hold a condom in one hand whilst BBBJ with the other hand on your manhood. If the room door opened the girl stops to explain she is about to put the condom on with her mouth. Doesn't get round the police issue but would get around most other risks.[/QUOTE]Maybe HB could kindly explain whether entering the private room without knocking is legal in Germany or not. I would assume not.

I am not a 100% sure but from my perspective the authorities are not allowed to enter the rooms without knocking. And probably they are not allowed to enter before you say "come in".

This is what you find in the press around checking the mandatory use of a condom:

"Die Kondompflicht lässt sich praktisch nicht überwachen.

Mitarbeiterinnen des Ordnungs- oder Gesundheitsamtes müssten sich als Sexarbeiterin ausgeben, um die Freier zu kontrollieren. Dies wäre aus logistischen und ethischen Gründen nicht umsetzbar.

Ob solche Anzeigen zu Bußgeldverfahren führen, ist jedoch unklar. Denn meist handelt es sich um intime Situationen ohne Zeugen. ".

"It is virtually impossible to monitor the constraint.

Employees of the authorities would have to spend as a sex worker to control the suitors. This would not be feasible for logistical and ethical reasons.

Whether such indications lead to fines proceedings, however, is unclear. For the most part they are intimate situations without witnesses. ".

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2051575]I am not a 100% sure but from my perspective the authorities are not allowed to enter the rooms without knocking. And probably they are not allowed to enter before you say "come in".
HB.[/QUOTE]Thank for update HB.

This is what I figured. I don't see any possibilities for authorities to control that new law. Except the officers that play roles of the customers or working girls, which doesn't look realistic either. I would assume it will take a few weeks until both visitors and WG realize that.

Whether polizei come in or not the girls will all use the new law to their advantage and charge 50 euro extra for BBBJ. 8 more days and we will all find out.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2051598]Whether polizei come in or not the girls will all use the new law to their advantage and charge 50 euro extra for BBBJ. 8 more days and we will all find out.[/QUOTE]If the girls are not stupid they will not charge 50 euros but just refuse to do it. At the end it will change what?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2051598]Whether polizei come in or not the girls will all use the new law to their advantage and charge 50 euro extra for BBBJ. 8 more days and we will all find out.[/QUOTE]In this way I hope the girls will loses a lot of customer.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2051598]Whether polizei come in or not the girls will all use the new law to their advantage and charge 50 euro extra for BBBJ. 8 more days and we will all find out.[/QUOTE]I think next Friday will be the last day for the 50 euro rooms.

It's interesting that most of us seem to be concerned only with price hikes for BBBJ and if girls will charge extra for it. Almost no one is talking about getting caught and potentially incurring hefty fines and outed / embarrassed. That could change. As HB reminded us many times, we are just speculating here and we have to see how this unfolds; but a few high profile and well publicized arrests and fines can change mens' minds quickly. Will it happen? May be it will not, but but then again may be it will. Only time will tell. I can't imagine that Germany will put this law on their books, and the only change that happens is that girls make an extra 50 bucks per blow job.

[QUOTE=Jymondor;2051585]Thank for update HB.

This is what I figured. I don't see any possibilities for authorities to control that new law. Except the officers that play roles of the customers or working girls, which doesn't look realistic either. I would assume it will take a few weeks until both visitors and WG realize that.[/QUOTE]Why you all are willing to turn around the new law, it will be forbidden that is all and it is enough. Will be still available in many other countries like Austria, etc. , the girls who will still offer it will be blacklisted and fired from the clubs it is at least what I heard this week.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2051634]It's interesting that most of us seem to be concerned only with price hikes for BBBJ and if girls will charge extra for it. Almost no one is talking about getting caught and potentially incurring hefty fines and outed / embarrassed. That could change. As HB reminded us many times, we are just speculating here and we have to see how this unfolds; but a few high profile and well publicized arrests and fines can change mens' minds quickly. Will it happen? May be it will not, but but then again may be it will. Only time will tell. I can't imagine that Germany will put this law on their books, and the only change that happens is that girls make an extra 50 bucks per blow job.[/QUOTE]Many times I gave my opinion, I believe it will be more or less unavailable in many clubs, even you are ready to pay for it. The girls are not stupid and they will be very happy to follow strictly the new law to protect themselves.

We're not concerned about the 50k fine because it may never happen. Also, many of us are assessing whether Germany is even a consideration for future mongering trips. I'm personally taking a break until November to see where the chips land.

Personally I refuse to pay 50 euro for room + 50 euro for DFK + 50 euro for BBBJ. Add on a 70 euro entry fee and you're at 220 euro average if you only find 1 girl, 185 euro average for 2 girls, 173 euro average for 3 girls, etc.

Hopefully NRW pricing structure still sticks and for 30 minutes it's 50 euro with standard DFK inclusive + 25 euro BBBJ + 60 euro or less entry (GT price).

Compare this to say Montreal, Canada where you can get a pretty decent looking 18-20 year old escort for 135 euro per HOUR. Toronto, Canada prices just slightly higher. 30 minutes is 80 to 107 euro per half hour. DFK and BBBJ is standard at any reputable agency. Service is better than standard Romanians. Girls are almost all friendly and not sharky. Closer to the USA for those from there so cheaper airfare. Only downfall is no face pics but girls now have Twitter and you can get a pretty good sense on their faces from some of the videos they post. Even if you bat 50% on hot faces you're still ahead.

[QUOTE=Jymondor;2051585] Except the officers that play roles of the customers or working girls,.[/QUOTE]Why should they play the role of the customers? And I don't see any officer playing a WG and risking that she "has to do" CBJ and covered full sex when the guy complies with the law.

HB.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2051644]

Personally I refuse to pay 50 euro for room + 50 euro for DFK + 50 euro for BBBJ. Add on a 70 euro entry fee and you're at 220 euro average if you only find 1 girl, 185 euro average for 2 girls, 173 euro average for 3 girls, etc.

Hopefully NRW pricing structure still sticks and for 30 minutes it's 50 euro with standard DFK inclusive + 25 euro BBBJ + 60 euro or less entry (GT price).

[/QUOTE]I refuse to pay 50 e for BBBJ as well. If the gal is rly hot then maybe I will pay 25 e for it. Most likely gals will give it for free if you repeat.

Dunno if there are enough tourists that will pay 50 e for BBBJ and 50 e for DFK. Can't imagine locals doing that on a regular basis bc they are use to getting everything for 50 e, LOL.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2051653]I refuse to pay 50 e for BBBJ as well. If the gal is rly hot then maybe I will pay 25 e for it. Most likely gals will give it for free if you repeat.

Dunno if there are enough tourists that will pay 50 e for BBBJ and 50 e for DFK. Can't imagine locals doing that on a regular basis bc they are use to getting everything for 50 e, LOL.[/QUOTE]If basic 1/2 HR with BBBJ will cost 100 Euros + entry fee this will make me visiting Germany less. Standard 1 HR session with reputable Escort Agency in Toronto is $250 CAD / HR. Which is about 170 EURO. This includes DFK, BBBJCIM, DIGITS, MSOG, DATY. Some girl include anal some charge $50 Extra for anal. I like FKK concept more than escort. However I am trying to spend money wisely.

I guess most of girls will keep charging 50 Euros for CIM. This will include BBBJ by default.

The 50 euro extra charge for BBBJ sounds like something that some of the girls will try to foist on the tourist-tourists (infrequent tourists / newbies). Many girls will be satisfied with giving BBBJ in a 1 hour room (sort of like DFK for many girls now).

If I know a girl already, I would have no problem committing to an hour with her. It's the girls who I've never been with that I am extremely reluctant to make any time commitment with. I would certainly refuse to pay any straight up 50 Euro charge just for BBBJ. That's ridiculous. If girls try this, I will just continue on to the next girl until I find one who is more agreeable. And if I run out of girls who meet my spec at a given club, then I will simply move on to the next club.

In any case, I'm not anticipating 50 Euro extra charges. I am expecting no more than requests for 1 hour commitments (like for DFK now with some girls).

The fact is that there simply isn't enough business right now in the clubs to support girls insisting on 50 Euro extra for BBBJ. And their business will indeed become more dire after July 1st as many guys will be taking a wait-and-see approach.

As it stands, the girls aren't making as many rooms as they'd like, even on supposed busy nights like Friday and Saturday nights. If any of you are paying 50 Euros extra for BBBJ in July, you're letting the girls play you for a chump. Seriously.

I mean, you don't have to spend that long in the club, observing the girls to see how long it takes for each of them to coax a room out of all of the guys in the entire club (on average I mean). I mean, just look at the Oase key board at any given moment in the night and how many girls are in the club and you'll instantly know how many girls are in the room versus walking around in the club. Yes, they are making some rooms on busy nights, but nowhere near as many as they'd like. Everyone should remember this simple fact. You have the upper-hand in negotiations in any FKK at the moment.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2051685]The 50 euro extra charge for BBBJ sounds like something that some of the girls will try to foist on the tourist-tourists (infrequent tourists / newbies). Many girls will be satisfied with giving BBBJ in a 1 hour room (sort of like DFK for many girls now).

If I know a girl already, I would have no problem committing to an hour with her. It's the girls who I've never been with that I am extremely reluctant to make any time commitment with. I would certainly refuse to pay any straight up 50 Euro charge just for BBBJ. That's ridiculous. If girls try this, I will just continue on to the next girl until I find one who is more agreeable. And if I run out of girls who meet my spec at a given club, then I will simply move on to the next club.

In any case, I'm not anticipating 50 Euro extra charges. I am expecting no more than requests for 1 hour commitments (like for DFK now with some girls).

The fact is that there simply isn't enough business right now in the clubs to support girls insisting on 50 Euro extra for BBBJ. And their business will indeed become more dire after July 1st as many guys will be taking a wait-and-see approach.

As it stands, the girls aren't making as many rooms as they'd like, even on supposed busy nights like Friday and Saturday nights. If any of you are paying 50 Euros extra for BBBJ in July, you're letting the girls play you for a chump. Seriously.

I mean, you don't have to spend that long in the club, observing the girls to see how long it takes for each of them to coax a room out of all of the guys in the entire club (on average I mean). I mean, just look at the Oase key board at any given moment in the night and how many girls are in the club and you'll instantly know how many girls are in the room versus walking around in the club. Yes, they are making some rooms on busy nights, but nowhere near as many as they'd like. Everyone should remember this simple fact. You have the upper-hand in negotiations in any FKK at the moment.[/QUOTE]Just you forget to mention that it will be illegal, that most of the girls are very happy not to have to give BBBJ anymore and that some club managers already inform the girls that if they still give it they will be immediately fired. When I see the average age of the mongers including me, I think we just have to respect the new law.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2051560]BBBJ is no risk (besides the health risk) for the girl. There are no fines for the girls and no prosecution. Maybe you should carry a piece of paper with the relevant passages from the law in German, English, Romanian and Bulgarian with you.

HB.[/QUOTE]Yes, even not understanding German despite spending nearly half of the year on autobahns, I thought about BBBJ or AO, girls wouldn't be prosecuted but only clients. Law is to protect girls about their health, also not being anymore rent rooms where they are fucked for job. I think Law consider girls as victims about some risks about some kind of sex, or where they pay to live and sleep.

Also, girls already working before 1st July, would have until 1st January to be registered? Not before.

So BBBJ or AO sex can t be anymore standard services asked by clients, but if an independent girl is in love with you, she can decide to provide for You.

2 best Russian escorts agencies closed in Paris, so long life to FKK land, even after 1st July end of standard BBBJ world.

Wish for more Russian or Ukrainian girls coming to visit and work in Germany, but I love my so lovely Romanian beauties, even not at Sharks at the moment.

New FKK world to come.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2051380]I wrote so many times Sharks was my best casting in Germany, higher than VIP GT, in 2015 until last Summer, but I can't write anymore, even maybe the largest casting, but I prefer only 1 Megan sister.

PFI, if I found a Paulina but with light make up, no silicon, no Botox, duck lips, with passionate behavior like yours, she would make my day and night, taking her in wood chalet, elephant room and mirror room, for different games to enjoy.[/QUOTE]Who are the new: Andrea. Bu who was claiming to be Ukrainian, from Sofia. Liz ex World. Reddish hair Carla. Ro. Karolina. Pol, real woman Agnes. Pol, Aurelia and model Megan now at Globe, Hessen and Globe top class superstar Alice / Kate / Katalina, Karin claiming to come from Valencia, Rena. Ro, blond Jessi. De not the one at Aca and GT, very GFE behavior Ilka, now at Sharks?

What become eyes and brain dreams? To think at first sight: I want her, everybody can say she is not good in room, I don't care, I want to play with her.

I'm not concerned about the law change and will just go with the flow. Sure, I'd rather things stayed as they are, and I won't pay additional for BBBJ. I am sure that I will still have fun with the girls.

The risk of getting caught also does not concern me. As someone who used to punt in countries where it is against the law, I am familiar with these risks.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2051575]
Employees of the authorities would have to spend as a sex worker to control the suitors. This would not be feasible for logistical and ethical reasons.[/QUOTE]Are you saying I won't be allowed to bang a german polizeilina from the rear? I was getting so hyped up now I almost had my bookings ready. Are you aware of what you are doing to the potential Hessen tourism industry by ruling out this possibility now?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2051644]We're not concerned about the 50k fine because it may never happen. Also, many of us are assessing whether Germany is even a consideration for future mongering trips. I'm personally taking a break until November to see where the chips land.

Personally I refuse to pay 50 euro for room + 50 euro for DFK + 50 euro for BBBJ. Add on a 70 euro entry fee and you're at 220 euro average if you only find 1 girl, 185 euro average for 2 girls, 173 euro average for 3 girls, etc.

Hopefully NRW pricing structure still sticks and for 30 minutes it's 50 euro with standard DFK inclusive + 25 euro BBBJ + 60 euro or less entry (GT price).

Compare this to say Montreal, Canada where you can get a pretty decent looking 18-20 year old escort for 135 euro per HOUR. Toronto, Canada prices just slightly higher. 30 minutes is 80 to 107 euro per half hour. DFK and BBBJ is standard at any reputable agency. Service is better than standard Romanians. Girls are almost all friendly and not sharky. Closer to the USA for those from there so cheaper airfare. Only downfall is no face pics but girls now have Twitter and you can get a pretty good sense on their faces from some of the videos they post. Even if you bat 50% on hot faces you're still ahead.[/QUOTE]Man, you're reading my mind. I was thinking depending on what happens after June 30 I may visit Canada instead of Germany for my not so cheap thrills.

BTW the girls tell me that Wednesday is the best day of the week for them.

A lot seems to be worried about the condom obligation. I believe the main point of this obligation is to relieve girls from the pressure to do it because every other girls do it. It will probably become more expensive but after all 50 Euro is not that much.

What is really worrying about this new law and this is probably the most reluctant part for girls, is: the registration. They already have to register but some fear that with the new law they just can't work without those additional administrative papers. And this is a problem for girls because after, they will have to declare their revenue by paying an accountant and pay taxes. I heard different versions: something like 30% of their revenue, something like a thousand euro per month.

But Romanian girls do not care about social security in Germany, they want to make money, return to their country and forget about it. It seems there will be a transition period until first January but after that date some girls will not come back at all. Unfortunately, I think it is the most pretty girls who will try to find another country where it is more easy to work and well paid (like Switzerland?) FKKs line up decline is the most worrying thing! According to my last visits in FKK, it is already happening, it will only get worse.

Hi all,

I will be in sharks tomorrow at about 5 pm. Anyone there to grab a beer drop me a pm.

Happy mongering.

Agree with what UltraHappy writes. Business is already slow. BBBJ as 50 EUR extra makes Germany less attractive as a destination for international guests.

However, if certain WGs stipulated that BBBJ is only available for 100 E /60 min sessions or 100 E /30 minutes with CIM, then that would be a concession on both sides.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2051504]Indeed at the Hessen clubs is low business the last time (one effect Ramadan), there isn't no last chance BBBJ rally. We must wait if additional P6 business move from street walkers, apartments, escorts or RLD to FKK club scene otherwise I doubt that all German FKK clubs can survive in the future.[/QUOTE]I am curious if the average FKK customer even knows about the new July 1st laws. If men are not reading forums regularly, they might not even know about it.

Perhaps that is why there hasn't been the "last chance June 2017 BBBJ rally" that you predicted. When you wrote that, I thought, "that makes perfect sense". But maybe we were both making the assumption that everybody else thinks like a hardcore monger.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2051923]
However, if certain WGs stipulated that BBBJ is only available for 100 E /60 min sessions[/QUOTE]This isn't an issue as long as 100 for 60 includes both DFK and BBBJ. However, there is a possibility it becomes 150 for 90. I definitely don't want to commit to 90 minutes with every new girl.

Anyone speak to NRW girls about their feelings after July 1? I'm really curious on clubs like GT who are strict on girls not overcharging.

I was driving through all Germany from north to south yesterday, and had a very pleasant pit stop at Sharks.

I am not a very experienced visitor to FKK's, but have visited three and made this my fourth. Favorite so far is Artemis, which I have visited 5 times the couple of last years.

I was very excited to visit Sharks, and had read many, many pages in this forum the last moths to be prepared. I arrived some minutes before the opening at 11 am, the most obvious advantage was a parking lot very close to the door. Very close to the opening there were very few girls, I counted less than 10, but they dropped in as the time went by, and in a couple of hours there were about 30.

First I had breakfast, I will call it ok. The bread and salmon was good, the socalled crabsticks was not. I wasn't there for food, but it was my lunchhour so I was happy with that. I had lunch in the garden, and what a garden! Very big and elegant, I loved the small houses around. Too bad I didn't get to try them. The garden and the poolarea must be the best in the business? I also liked the indoor-area, and tried the sauna a couple of times before playing. I must say Sharks looks like a very decent club!

I was a little disappointed by the number of girls. Most of them were young, but I like them a little more mature. Most of them looked very hot to me, but none of them were defined as my type. After my lunch I was approached by a nice woman called Angelica from Lithuania (or maybe Latvia? She was very nice and more of my type than the youngest. She had wide hips and big ass (some will probably call her ass fat), and hangers, but I like her body and her behaviour. I told her I would consider meeting her in 30-45 min. I had to watch her around a little, and finally decided to go with her. What a fantastic 30 minutes that was! I must have had sex with many hundred of WG's all over the world, this is the best BJ I have ever had! She did it excactly the way it should, my english is limited so I am not able to describe. Angelica also told me she is 42 yo, must have been the double of the average age of the girls. I like women that are like her, I will never forget her.

After Angelica I was a happy man, and just enjoyed being around this disneyland for adults. I really like the atmosphere in the big FKK's, much better than the small ones. Having my eyes resting at lots of eye-candy, you know what I mean. I enjoyed sitting in the sun watching hot girls walking by, only thing I wonderes was why don't the girls spend more time outside when the wheather is good? They for sure spend enough time inside through the year.

As the number of girls were slightly growing I understood I should have had more time, but I had to leave at 4 pm. I was about to leave when I saw an very sexy woman in the reception. She had very short blond hair, her name was Lisa. Very fit, very smiley, siliconed tits (which I don't like, but they looked ok) and in general a very sexy woman to my taste. As she entered the bar-area I approached her and we agreed on a standard 30 minutes. Her BJ was good, but not close to Angelicas skills. Lisa was from Czech and didn't understand a single english word, so our talking was extremely limited. She was good, but I think her looks appealed more to me than her sex-skills.

All in all I found Sharks a very good FKK. I hope I will be able to visit again. Too bad Frankfurt is far away from Scandinavia, and flight tickets are pretty expensive as well. I would have loved to spend more time, and then of course try the outside cabins.

Thank you also to all you seniors who have given me many good advices!

[QUOTE=Nr71;2052050]I was driving through all Germany from north to south yesterday, and had a very pleasant pit stop at Sharks.

I am not a very experienced visitor to FKK's, but have visited three and made this my fourth. Favorite so far is Artemis, which I have visited 5 times the couple of last years.

I was very excited to visit Sharks, and had read many, many pages in this forum the last moths to be prepared. I arrived some minutes before the opening at 11 am, the most obvious advantage was a parking lot very close to the door. Very close to the opening there were very few girls, I counted less than 10, but they dropped in as the time went by, and in a couple of hours there were about 30.

First I had breakfast, I will call it ok. The bread and salmon was good, the socalled crabsticks was not. I wasn't there for food, but it was my lunchhour so I was happy with that. I had lunch in the garden, and what a garden! Very big and elegant, I loved the small houses around. Too bad I didn't get to try them. The garden and the poolarea must be the best in the business? I also liked the indoor-area, and tried the sauna a couple of times before playing. I must say Sharks looks like a very decent club!

I was a little disappointed by the number of girls. Most of them were young, but I like them a little more mature. Most of them looked very hot to me, but none of them were defined as my type. After my lunch I was approached by a nice woman called Angelica from Lithuania (or maybe Latvia? She was very nice and more of my type than the youngest. She had wide hips and big ass (some will probably call her ass fat), and hangers, but I like her body and her behaviour. I told her I would consider meeting her in 30-45 min. I had to watch her around a little, and finally decided to go with her. What a fantastic 30 minutes that was! I must have had sex with many hundred of WG's all over the world, this is the best BJ I have ever had! She did it excactly the way it should, my english is limited so I am not able to describe. Angelica also told me she is 42 yo, must have been the double of the average age of the girls. I like women that are like her, I will never forget her.
[/QUOTE]Sorry but it seems you got a great time with Angelica why you just stayed 30 minutes with her?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2051945]...Anyone speak to NRW girls about their feelings after July 1? I'm really curious on clubs like GT who are strict on girls not overcharging.[/QUOTE]I was there last week and talked to many girls, from different clubs as well, about the after July 1st. None of them would give me a straight anaswer, probably because they don't know yet how things will shape up. However, they all seem to think they will be making more money. IMO, the days of 50-Euro sessions are probably over. I had to pay 100 Euros to get my usual services. None of them would go for 50.

I talked to some girls about these topics. What I found was that 2 girls I talked to are leaving due to the registration. At least one was open about it (Delia at Oceans) The other one kinda said it indirectly (Amelia at GT). But aside from those two, I believe everyone else I talked to about it are staying. I didn't question anyone in hessen regarding this though.

The BBBJ question is less of a trigger for them. Some of those who likes to upsell CIM will probably continue with BBBJ. Some will only do CBJ etc etc. Some haven't heard about the rule change and say they don't care or that nobody will ever check for it. So nothing changes. I believe this might be overhyped in here. But we will see.

As for lineup, I felt the June lineups were overall the best I have seen this year. So the lineup degradation you are talking about is beyond me. Ok Artemis lineup was better in the past (I didn't go there in June) 2-3 years ago easily. And some girls at some clubs haven't taken care of their bodies well enough, or has gone with wacho wrong hairstyles. But that is beside the point. Lineups as a whole in Germany since my first trips are pretty consistent. The center of gravity however moves around a bit between the clubs. Average age goes up slightly, but it is not too bad, and some clubs are better than others of renewing their lineups.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2052089]What I found was that 2 girls I talked to are leaving due to the registration. [/QUOTE]I wish the clubs were educating the girls that the law contains strict privacy protections for their sensitive personal information and that the law restricts sharing of sensitive personal information. By failing to educate the girls, the clubs risk losing some of their girls due to misconceptions about the law.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2052089]
Some haven't heard about the rule change and say they don't care or that nobody will ever check for it. So nothing changes. I believe this might be overhyped in here.
[/QUOTE]The requirement for registrations are delayed until Dec. 2017. It is expected that the police will be checking for registrations in 2018.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2052089]
Average age goes up slightly[/QUOTE]No like.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2052091]I wish the clubs were educating the girls that the law contains strict privacy protections for their sensitive personal information and that the law restricts sharing of sensitive personal information. By failing to educate the girls, the clubs risk losing some of their girls due to misconceptions about the law.

The requirement for registrations are delayed until Dec. 2017. It is expected that the police will be checking for registrations in 2018.

No like.[/QUOTE]In the recent weeks, several girls (I know well) told me that they will leave the P6 scene, just because they don't want to register (protect their family) and for them it is the opportunity to change their life.

Anyone know about the girl "Paloma"?

I was in FKK sharks recently, she was my favorite girl but she seemed uninterested to meet me when I came in another day, I'm not sure why, maybe because I took a lot of others girls and she saw. It was really quite frustrating because she was my favorite girl there. She is the skinny blond with smaller breasts and a marijuana shaped scar on her chest. Anyone know about her or have any insight on her? I'm wondering what your guys' experience is with her, or if she's been discussed here before.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2052085]I was there last week and talked to many girls, from different clubs as well, about the after July 1st. None of them would give me a straight anaswer, probably because they don't know yet how things will shape up. However, they all seem to think they will be making more money. IMO, the days of 50-Euro sessions are probably over. I had to pay 100 Euros to get my usual services. None of them would go for 50.[/QUOTE]Is it really the rule now that 30 minute FS sessions without CIM and anal are 50 euros? I don't think so. Most providers ended that some time ago. They are just seeking their financial interest and apparently the majority of customers have no problem paying 100 euros and upwards for what was previously 50 euros. I read where posters are saying that the girls are complaining about lack of customers. My visits to the club reveal that the girls are doing a bustling business; many times especially between Wednesday and Saturday available rooms are difficult to find. I have noticed that a particular provider who gave me a subpar session has been quite busy. I think that many FKK customers have not sessioned in places like Brazil and Argentina, for example, and are not aware of what a good performance by a wg is really about and are paying top dollar (euro) for crummy service. I will certainly want to experience what the FKKs will be like after June 30 and will wait until then to decide whether to say adios to FKKs.

For girls already working there's no need to register before December 31.

HB.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2052272]Is it really the rule now that 30 minute FS sessions without CIM and anal are 50 euros? I don't think so. Most providers ended that some time ago. They are just seeking their financial interest and apparently the majority of customers have no problem paying 100 euros and upwards for what was previously 50 euros. I read where posters are saying that the girls are complaining about lack of customers. My visits to the club reveal that the girls are doing a bustling business; many times especially between Wednesday and Saturday available rooms are difficult to find. I have noticed that a particular provider who gave me a subpar session has been quite busy. I think that many FKK customers have not sessioned in places like Brazil and Argentina, for example, and are not aware of what a good performance by a wg is really about and are paying top dollar (euro) for crummy service. I will certainly want to experience what the FKKs will be like after June 30 and will wait until then to decide whether to say adios to FKKs.[/QUOTE]M experience and observation are slightly different.

Roughly half the girls I sessioned with seemed to give good service whether it's 30 min or longer.

I took one girl, Selene, for just 30 min. She gave excellent service in all regards.

Others like Regina, Magda etc gave very excellent service not knowing if I would extend for much longer. It's a different matter that I did. But I never made any promise to them that I would take more than 30 min in my first session and they still gave excellent service.

In general, I have not seen huge declines in service levels over years at Sharks. I am talking about the last 5 years in this context.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2052353]M experience and observation are slightly different.

Roughly half the girls I sessioned with seemed to give good service whether it's 30 min or longer.

I took one girl, Selene, for just 30 min. She gave excellent service in all regards.

Others like Regina, Magda etc gave very excellent service not knowing if I would extend for much longer. It's a different matter that I did. But I never made any promise to them that I would take more than 30 min in my first session and they still gave excellent service.

In general, I have not seen huge declines in service levels over years at Sharks. I am talking about the last 5 years in this context.[/QUOTE]Guess it help that they have seen yr face before I. E. Semi-regular and not some tourists that they prolly never will see again.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2052358]Guess it help that they have seen yr face before I. E. Semi-regular and not some tourists that they prolly never will see again.[/QUOTE]Perhaps. But many girls are also new. Selene was quite new in the club, and don't think she saw me on prior trips because she was not there at that time. Ditto with Regina, don't believe she saw me before.

I still think there is not a huge fluctuation in service levels. May be there is a gradual decline over a span of a dozen years; but it is definitely not fluctuating week to week or month to month or even year to year, like some stock market.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2052389]Perhaps. But many girls are also new. Selene was quite new in the club, and don't think she saw me on prior trips because she was not there at that time. Ditto with Regina, don't believe she saw me before.

I still think there is not a huge fluctuation in service levels. May be there is a gradual decline over a span of a dozen years; but it is definitely not fluctuating week to week or month to month or even year to year, like some stock market.[/QUOTE]Just like we deduct that gals being busy are suppose to provide good service they too observe. Maybe they saw you being friendly with other gals, stay long time in the zimmer etc.

Or perhaps you guys just have a good connection and / or they are simply good service providers bc still new in the biz.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2052398]Just like we deduct that gals being busy are suppose to provide good service they too observe. Maybe they saw you being friendly with other gals, stay long time in the zimmer etc.

Or perhaps you guys just have a good connection and / or they are simply good service providers bc still new in the biz.[/QUOTE]I've been away from the clubs for a while, but my visit this week was a success. Excellent service from my regular girl, and very good service from the two girls that were new for me. No upselling from anyone, even for my 50 e session with a girl that was new to me (Tina, Ro).

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2051832]
What become eyes and brain dreams? To think at first sight: I want her, everybody can say she is not good in room, I don't care, I want to play with her.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, there still will be optifucks for you.

[QUOTE=Frozty;2052399]I've been away from the clubs for a while, but my visit this week was a success. Excellent service from my regular girl, and very good service from the two girls that were new for me. No upselling from anyone, even for my 50 e session with a girl that was new to me (Tina, Ro).[/QUOTE]Nice to hear that you had good time. Guess its still possible to have a decent session for 50 e if its quiet at the club, hehe.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2052398]Just like we deduct that gals being busy are suppose to provide good service they too observe. Maybe they saw you being friendly with other gals, stay long time in the zimmer etc.

Or perhaps you guys just have a good connection and / or they are simply good service providers bc still new in the biz.[/QUOTE]But why is it difficult to believe girls still provide good services or that things change slowly? If I read reports from 2,3 or 4 years ago, people were still complaining of sharky girls, co-mingled with reports of good girls and services.

I am not saying my experiences are representative of all experiences out there. Thousands of men meet hundreds of girls in these clubs every week, and there are a myriad cross experiences altogether. No one knows what is the sum totality of them all.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2052412]But why is it difficult to believe girls still provide good services or that things change slowly? If I read reports from 2,3 or 4 years ago, people were still complaining of sharky girls, co-mingled with reports of good girls and services.

I am not saying my experiences are representative of all experiences out there. Thousands of men meet hundreds of girls in these clubs every week, and there are a myriad cross experiences altogether. No one knows what is the sum totality of them all.[/QUOTE]Not difficult to blv that you still will be able to find gals providing good service for 50 e but its getting harder as the majority seems to want 100 e.

The trend is that the service lvl is declining like stocks in a bear market.

[QUOTE=Search1042;2052260]Anyone know about the girl "Paloma"?

I was in FKK sharks recently, she was my favorite girl but she seemed uninterested to meet me when I came in another day, I'm not sure why, maybe because I took a lot of others girls and she saw. It was really quite frustrating because she was my favorite girl there. She is the skinny blond with smaller breasts and a marijuana shaped scar on her chest. Anyone know about her or have any insight on her? I'm wondering what your guys' experience is with her, or if she's been discussed here before.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Yes when you got a "wife" at the club she might get upset when you go around and fuck other gals. Just ask YY that got a divorce from Dina bc he licked alot of romanian pussies against her will 😂.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2052428]Yes when you got a "wife" at the club she might get upset when you go around and fuck other gals. Just ask YY that got a divorce from Dina bc he licked alot of romanian pussies against her will 😂.[/QUOTE]If this is joke, it is good one. I sessioned with Paloma four times. She never approached me and never even make eye contact. If we meet face to face when walking she says "hallo". Not like other girls that usually give me a light kiss as see them. However, any time I start talking to Paloma she responding in very friendly manner and maintain conversation. She is a good talker, This is her style I guess. All in all Paloma is one the best performers among Sharks veterans.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2052272]Is it really the rule now that 30 minute FS sessions without CIM and anal are 50 euros? I don't think so. Most providers ended that some time ago. They are just seeking their financial interest and apparently the majority of customers have no problem paying 100 euros and upwards for what was previously 50 euros. I read where posters are saying that the girls are complaining about lack of customers. My visits to the club reveal that the girls are doing a bustling business; many times especially between Wednesday and Saturday available rooms are difficult to find. I have noticed that a particular provider who gave me a subpar session has been quite busy. I think that many FKK customers have not sessioned in places like Brazil and Argentina, for example, and are not aware of what a good performance by a wg is really about and are paying top dollar (euro) for crummy service. I will certainly want to experience what the FKKs will be like after June 30 and will wait until then to decide whether to say adios to FKKs.[/QUOTE]Never visited Brazil or Argentina but I am very happy in the big FKK in Germany. Everything is legal, so no stress to be caught by cops or pressurised by bad guys, the girls are nude, young, clean and you can see and discuss everything before you have to pay 1 euro. In which other country is this possible?

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2052412]But why is it difficult to believe girls still provide good services or that things change slowly? If I read reports from 2,3 or 4 years ago, people were still complaining of sharky girls, co-mingled with reports of good girls and services.

I am not saying my experiences are representative of all experiences out there. Thousands of men meet hundreds of girls in these clubs every week, and there are a myriad cross experiences altogether. No one knows what is the sum totality of them all.[/QUOTE]This so true. I visited Sharks this week and had a great time. Now I mostly went with my favourites who I know but I also went with a girl named Dea who I never met before. Good service altogether so even when I try a new girl at Sharks I get good service. Last visit I tried Neya as my new one and got good service from her as well. Maybe just lucky picks but there is still very good girls at Sharks. Angelina seems to have calmed down too which made the whole experience better.

I go next time in July. Interesting to see what happens. I didn't talk with any girls about it, I figured they most be bored hearing about that.

The registration that is being discussed is a problem for the girls how?

Will it be a register that anybody could get out from the authorities as a public document? That I understand will be a problem.

[QUOTE=Jymondor;2052435]If this is joke, it is good one. I sessioned with Paloma four times. She never approached me and never even make eye contact. If we meet face to face when walking she says "hallo". Not like other girls that usually give me a light kiss as see them. However, any time I start talking to Paloma she responding in very friendly manner and maintain conversation. She is a good talker, This is her style I guess. All in all Paloma is one the best performers among Sharks veterans.[/QUOTE]Yeah she's a good talker for sure and like you mentioned she usually doesn't approach at least not with me. I guess I wud have gone with her again if she did approach but I don't like the new deal I. E. 1 HR for DFK.

[QUOTE=McGrath;2052450]The registration that is being discussed is a problem for the girls how?

Will it be a register that anybody could get out from the authorities as a public document? That I understand will be a problem.[/QUOTE]How?. Some thoughys. Bureaucratic processes create hurdles. In addition nobody likes to know they are on some kind of Government list for supervision: it creates a climate of intimidation (however mild). Imagine if we as purchasers had to register: how would you feel?. Dealing with a foreign state's bureaucracy will be really off putting for girls from countries where corruption is rife.

The registration is not supposed to be publicly available in any shape or form.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2052454]Yeah she's a good talker for sure and like you mentioned she usually doesn't approach at least not with me. I guess I wud have gone with her again if she did approach but I don't like the new deal I. E. 1 HR for DFK.[/QUOTE]About Paloma. Yes, why pay 100 for what was 50 only a short time ago. Plenty of other options, even if unlike a couple of years ago, it is more difficult to find them

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2052454]Yeah she's a good talker for sure and like you mentioned she usually doesn't approach at least not with me. I guess I wud have gone with her again if she did approach but I don't like the new deal I. E. 1 HR for DFK.[/QUOTE]It looks likes 100 for DFK becomes a new standard for the popular girls. And we expect another 50 for BBBJ after July 1st. So 1 HR session that considered to be standard falls to 150. CIM will make it 200. Popular girls now charge 50 for DIGITS or even do not allow it at all. Eventually 1 HR that include my desirable package DFK, BBBJ, CIM, and DIGITS will cost 250 or $373 CAD. 1 HR of escort in Toronto $250 CAD. This include all abbreviation listed above and in some cases even GREEK. VIP escort starts at $350 CAD / HR. And believe me VIP escort girls in Toronto look and perform way better than Paloma for example. But I still like FKK concept. So I am puzzled. Will see what happen after July 1st in reality.

[QUOTE=McGrath;2052450]The registration that is being discussed is a problem for the girls how?[/QUOTE]Real problem for girls is taxes! If they register then they will have to pay an accountant to declare their revenue (I am not sure but they also need a lawyer?) I guess they can keep extras in black and only declare the minimum but it will reduces their incomes anyway. What's more, in the registration they also have to declare their address and they won't be able to sleep in the FKK anymore. Not every girls sleep in the FKK, but some does. BTW it's surprising seeing sleepy girls going down the stairs in pyjama at Sharks. Renting a flat, even in colocation, will probably be more expensive. They will have organize themselves.

From the talks I had with girls it's not a possible breach in the confidentiality of their work that the girls fear but a reduction in their income. They're not interested at all in social security.

[QUOTE=Jymondor;2052474]It looks likes 100 for DFK becomes a new standard for the popular girls. And we expect another 50 for BBBJ after July 1st. So 1 HR session that considered to be standard falls to 150. CIM will make it 200. Popular girls now charge 50 for DIGITS or even do not allow it at all. Eventually 1 HR that include my desirable package DFK, BBBJ, CIM, and DIGITS will cost 250 or $373 CAD. 1 HR of escort in Toronto $250 CAD. This include all abbreviation listed above and in some cases even GREEK. VIP escort starts at $350 CAD / HR. And believe me VIP escort girls in Toronto look and perform way better than Paloma for example. But I still like FKK concept. So I am puzzled. Will see what happen after July 1st in reality.[/QUOTE]Except that your new FKK pricing above is little more than wishful thinking on the part of the girls. This wishful thinking will only be successful with some of the occasional tourists and the Asian suckers who don't know any better.

[QUOTE=Jymondor;2052474]It looks likes 100 for DFK becomes a new standard for the popular girls. And we expect another 50 for BBBJ after July 1st.[/QUOTE]This is a self-fulfilling prophecy, good job!

This is simply called blackmail.

And what about denunciation? Girls may think twice before upselling.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2052484]Except that your new FKK pricing above is little more than wishful thinking on the part of the girls. This wishful thinking will only be successful with some of the occasional tourists and the Asian suckers who don't know any better.[/QUOTE]I bet July would be quite interesting month on FKK scene. It is shame they do not serve popcorn there.

[QUOTE=Jymondor;2052496]I bet July would be quite interesting month on FKK scene. It is shame they do not serve popcorn there.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing it'll be much the same as ever. I'm reminded of the run-up to Y2 K.

[QUOTE=Search1042;2052260]Anyone know about the girl "Paloma"? I was in FKK sharks recently, she was my favorite girl but she seemed uninterested to meet me when I came in another day, I'm not sure why, maybe because I took a lot of others girls and she saw. It was really quite frustrating because she was my favorite girl there. Anyone know about her or have any insight on her? [/QUOTE]I have been with her since she was 'skinny Karina' at World. She knows I take many other girls at World and at Sharks and has not had problems with it. It is just her style to sit in that couch at the far end and wait for her regulars to come to her. She does not smile at me till I sit right beside her, but is all loving from that point on.

The next time I see her I must ask her if she is short-sighted. I had recently discovered that another girl I had been with for some time did not smile at me till approached because she could not see beyond 30 feet! She found wearing contacts uncomfortable and that wearing specs did not fit her looks.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2052401]Don't worry, there still will be optifucks for you.[/QUOTE]Not at Sharks nor Oase nor World since a while, unfortunately.

My girls may usually not be top performers, but sensual women if you are able to get the best from them. I always preferred class, elegance and sensuality rather than technique, and I work to make them behave like women for me.

Amount of panic concerning July 1st seems excessive to me. Is there this amount of panic on the non-English boards?

Many WGs read this board (especially Hessen WGs). If you let the "opposing side" know about your vulnerabilities, then you are reducing your amount of leverage. Would it be asking too much for you all to try to maintain a poker face? Or at least defer this panic until at least October 2017 or sometime thereafter?

These WGs also face an uncertain future, more so than us crybabies. I've only spoken to one WG about July 1st. She brought it up--not me. And she was only talking about the registration aspect. In other words, I wouldn't even know about "outlawing of BBBJ" if it weren't for this forum.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leverage_(negotiation)[/URL]

"Time can be a key factor in a negotiation. The party with the [B]most patience and ability to wait[/B] has greater leverage. ".

"The side or group that is willing to walk away (when this is a possibility) has the most amount of leverage. ".

I agree that there is too much discussion and speculation on this topic (and now, this comment of mine adds to that body) and I suppose if I were physically in Germany right now, I would be clubbing at this moment instead of writing about it.

Anyway, I think it was NeuroS who said once, and it made a lot of sense to me, but the practical impact of this law will be decided by Germans. I think, even with several thousand foreigner mongers visiting every day, German men make up majority of the demand side of the equation. Whether the law is fastidiously followed, broken, fines imposed, prices going up; all of this will be decided by them, as they constitute the much bigger portion of the market.

So, I wouldn't worry that some working girls, reading the innermost thoughts and fears of a few dozen English speaking mongers (let's face it, a few dozen poeople post most of the comments here, me being one of the worst guilty parties) and use such knowledge against us in future negotiations; we in no way can be called more than a very small fraction of the market.

And I think was it even you MCA who said most local guys may be even unaware of this law yet? Makes perfect sense. What happens when they eventually hear about and understand the legal changes, how they react, not just in Hessen and NRW big clubs but all over the country, that remains to be seen.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2052572]Amount of panic concerning July 1st seems excessive to me. Is there this amount of panic on the non-English boards?

Many WGs read this board (especially Hessen WGs). If you let the "opposing side" know about your vulnerabilities, then you are reducing your amount of leverage. Would it be asking too much for you all to try to maintain a poker face? Or at least defer this panic until at least October 2017 or sometime thereafter?

These WGs also face an uncertain future, more so than us crybabies. I've only spoken to one WG about July 1st. She brought it up--not me. And she was only talking about the registration aspect. In other words, I wouldn't even know about "outlawing of BBBJ" if it weren't for this forum.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leverage_(negotiation)[/URL]

"Time can be a key factor in a negotiation. The party with the [B]most patience and ability to wait[/B] has greater leverage. ".

"The side or group that is willing to walk away (when this is a possibility) has the most amount of leverage. ".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2052481]Real problem for girls is taxes! If they register then they will have to pay an accountant to declare their revenue (I am not sure but they also need a lawyer?) I guess they can keep extras in black and only declare the minimum but it will reduces their incomes anyway. What's more, in the registration they also have to declare their address and they won't be able to sleep in the FKK anymore. Not every girls sleep in the FKK, but some does. BTW it's surprising seeing sleepy girls going down the stairs in pyjama at Sharks. Renting a flat, even in colocation, will probably be more expensive. They will have organize themselves.

From the talks I had with girls it's not a possible breach in the confidentiality of their work that the girls fear but a reduction in their income. They're not interested at all in social security.[/QUOTE]No need to register until new year for girls.

About taxes, we all heard girls telling they pay 25 on 100 per day, but their problem is who know they did pay this tax amount, they receive no receipt for this, they don't even know if it s too high or not, about money they make? They don't even know where go this money? From Hessen clubs desk to where?

In NRW, German girls declare what they want for money they make, who can control? Most of Romanians don't declare.

For example, GT girls entry is 50, free on their birthday. Same for LR.

When girls move, they become talkative about management and clients behavior.

[QUOTE=Jymondor;2052474]It looks likes 100 for DFK becomes a new standard for the popular girls. And we expect another 50 for BBBJ after July 1st. So 1 HR session that considered to be standard falls to 150. CIM will make it 200. Popular girls now charge 50 for DIGITS or even do not allow it at all. Eventually 1 HR that include my desirable package DFK, BBBJ, CIM, and DIGITS will cost 250 or $373 CAD. 1 HR of escort in Toronto $250 CAD. This include all abbreviation listed above and in some cases even GREEK. VIP escort starts at $350 CAD / HR. And believe me VIP escort girls in Toronto look and perform way better than Paloma for example. But I still like FKK concept. So I am puzzled. Will see what happen after July 1st in reality.[/QUOTE]Just because Sharks became like Oase or Palace, to fuck tourists, even never had upselling problems at Sharks. For 200/ h, you can go to Switzerland with higher GFE level and illusion with real sweet social time and shower together for free, or have 2 great 1 hour rooms in NRW.

In NRW since 1 year, never heard about other extra than CIM for 25, or anal. DFK and many other games are for free and when I experience how many girls wide open their vagina when you play inside with G point. I think last night, starting with 1 finger, no problem to put easily 3 in her really relaxed woman vagina, if I had time but it was close to the end, but maybe opening her more for all the hand, and she didn't take off my hand which was in liquid. Some also seem to enjoy sweet deep caresses from behind. Only 100 for at least 1 hour, for poor guys like me who can t anymore afford new Sharks and Oase upselling rates. Only Oase yellow mushi is still on my rate. But when I see Megan sexy photos, I won t resist for long to push fast to Zurich. I m proud she remembers for fashion hands and feet nails, for classy, sophisticated look.

[QUOTE=Search1042;2052260]Anyone know about the girl "Paloma"?

I was in FKK sharks recently, she was my favorite girl but she seemed uninterested to meet me when I came in another day, I'm not sure why, maybe because I took a lot of others girls and she saw. It was really quite frustrating because she was my favorite girl there. She is the skinny blond with smaller breasts and a marijuana shaped scar on her chest. Anyone know about her or have any insight on her? I'm wondering what your guys' experience is with her, or if she's been discussed here before.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Paloma is working since long time in Hessen, before at World. Not pretty face enough and too thin for me, even I like slim girls, but really too thin. But she looks friendly.

Maybe she thought, after your many other girls, it would be too hard job for her.

Some girls don't want you go with other girls, my problem with most of my regulars, I think only Megan accepted for Ariana, even she didn't like nor understand because she knows she is much prettier, but Ariana was so fresh GFE. Now I will also have to explain and work hard again for Kate even she is a busy superstar. Of course, most of girls don t care if guys go with other girls because they are just money, but sometimes some girls may not want to go with you and prefer to lose your money. For some girls, not for only once, they would never behave the same after seeing you going with another girl, not only angry for once.

[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2052481]Real problem for girls is taxes! If they register then they will have to pay an accountant to declare their revenue (I am not sure but they also need a lawyer?) I guess they can keep extras in black and only declare the minimum but it will reduces their incomes anyway. What's more, in the registration they also have to declare their address and they won't be able to sleep in the FKK anymore. Not every girls sleep in the FKK, but some does. BTW it's surprising seeing sleepy girls going down the stairs in pyjama at Sharks. Renting a flat, even in colocation, will probably be more expensive. They will have organize themselves.

From the talks I had with girls it's not a possible breach in the confidentiality of their work that the girls fear but a reduction in their income. They're not interested at all in social security.[/QUOTE]Many correct details, just one if the girls register, they will have no choice, the newcomers need already to register for the 1st of July, the other one can wait until December. The big issue for many girls is to keep confidentiality with their family and how to manage this point if you show your passport with the address at home from your family, this is mostly true for the young girls or for the one living in the FKK. But many girls will have no choice so they will take the risk, BBBJ will also most probably no more be available in 90% of the cases.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2052578]I agree that there is too much discussion and speculation on this topic (and now, this comment of mine adds to that body) and I suppose if I were physically in Germany right now, I would be clubbing at this moment instead of writing about it.

Anyway, I think it was NeuroS who said once, and it made a lot of sense to me, but the practical impact of this law will be decided by Germans. I think, even with several thousand foreigner mongers visiting every day, German men make up majority of the demand side of the equation. Whether the law is fastidiously followed, broken, fines imposed, prices going up; all of this will be decided by them, as they constitute the much bigger portion of the market.

So, I wouldn't worry that some working girls, reading the innermost thoughts and fears of a few dozen English speaking mongers (let's face it, a few dozen poeople post most of the comments here, me being one of the worst guilty parties) and use such knowledge against us in future negotiations; we in no way can be called more than a very small fraction of the market.

And I think was it even you MCA who said most local guys may be even unaware of this law yet? Makes perfect sense. What happens when they eventually hear about and understand the legal changes, how they react, not just in Hessen and NRW big clubs but all over the country, that remains to be seen.[/QUOTE]This market has been spoiled by tourists, particularly in clubs like Sharks and Oase.

Only some do behave like locals or even better and have certain ethics.

Many posters seem unwilling to accept that prices are going to increase from July 1. What they don't realize is that many punters have in fact already been paying higher prices. What do you expect the girls to do? Do you expect them not to take the opportunity to raise their rates even higher? Its called capitalism my friend and we live under a capitalist system. If the customer is willing to pay more why not charge more? We must be prepared to fork out more Euros.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2052687]Many posters seem unwilling to accept that prices are going to increase from July 1. What they don't realize is that many punters have in fact already been paying higher prices. What do you expect the girls to do? Do you expect them not to take the opportunity to raise their rates even higher? Its called capitalism my friend and we live under a capitalist system. If the customer is willing to pay more why not charge more? We must be prepared to fork out more Euros.[/QUOTE]Maybe in touristic Hessen, but fortunately not in NRW even at touristic Vip GT which was not crowded yesterday Sunday and empty in the evening, so even German girls seem happy with 1 hour for 100 and don t ask for extra. No upselling in NRW at the moment.

German clubs are less and less crowded even before the law, many girls cry about lack of business, they just have to behave to get business and regulars. Top girls in NRW make 1000 per day on week end and pay 50 for entry.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2052687]Many posters seem unwilling to accept that prices are going to increase from July 1. What they don't realize is that many punters have in fact already been paying higher prices. What do you expect the girls to do? Do you expect them not to take the opportunity to raise their rates even higher? Its called capitalism my friend and we live under a capitalist system. If the customer is willing to pay more why not charge more? We must be prepared to fork out more Euros.[/QUOTE]I can only tell you what I have been personally paying based on my personal experience. I have not been paying for anything more than simply time-in-room.

I can only tell you my observations of low business and that the girls are now not doing as many rooms as before (that is, compared to years past).

I can only tell you of the desperation I observe of the girls who are trying to make their rooms for the night.

I can only tell you how happy the girls are for me to pay them the standard rates (especially for long rooms).

When I do the math, actual payments + low demand-side business + desperation, the result of my mathematical computation is no price increase for me. But perhaps I made an error in my math somewhere? We will find out shortly.

If you are inclined to pay more than me (or more than you need to), the girls will gladly accept your donations. So, please feel free to pay above standard rates.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2052621]
About taxes, we all heard girls telling they pay 25 on 100 per day, but their problem is who know they did pay this tax amount, they receive no receipt for this, they don't even know if it s too high or not, about money they make? They don't even know where go this money? From Hessen clubs desk to where?
[/QUOTE]Maybe you don't see "real women angels" - whatever that means? Anymore at Hessen clubs. But stop writing additional things where you know nothing. Ofc the girls get a receipt for her daily tax downpaiment at Hessen FKK clubs.

BTW line up at the Frankfurt big FKK clubs still ways better than at dirty and boring ACA, or small and crowded LR or at GT full with MILFs and inside an atmosphere like main train station at rush hour.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2052621]No need to register until new year for girls.

About taxes, we all heard girls telling they pay 25 on 100 per day, but their problem is who know they did pay this tax amount, they receive no receipt for this, they don't even know if it s too high or not, about money they make? They don't even know where go this money? From Hessen clubs desk to where?

In NRW, German girls declare what they want for money they make, who can control? Most of Romanians don't declare.

For example, GT girls entry is 50, free on their birthday. Same for LR.

When girls move, they become talkative about management and clients behavior.[/QUOTE]True. Don't buy all you hear. Untill we get blockchain currencies and move away from cash, it is all free for all. But the downside is the feminists argument of pimps. As soon as we get these blockchains up and running, the pimp argument vanishes over night, and prostitution gets universally legal. However girls might have to pay taxes also then. But who knows what happens to the tax system with blockchain currencies too. We might just as well stop taxing labor and move 100% onto taxing wealth instead.

On the note of pimps, Tugrid is starting to sound like one...

The one thing that will increase the income for the girls is higher numbers of customers. If the visitor number and session rates at german fkk's goes beyond a certain point, then the market should feel strain and prices would go up according to standard economics. However, lack of rooms at some clubs, overcrowdedness at some, while other clubs lack visitors, and the uneven weekend/weekday crowd numbers are factors worth looking at. But in the end the willingness to pay is perhaps the most important factor. Throughout a year I only spend a certain amount of money on girls in fkk's. That budget won't change no matter how much they try or manage to upsell me... the total amount I spend throughout a year is a fixed total pie. If I stop attending fkk's due to lower service and too much upsells, as well as uninterresting girls, the pie is moved elsewhere... only I choose who gets to eat of my own moneypie...

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2052535]Not at Sharks nor Oase nor World since a while, unfortunately.

My girls may usually not be top performers, but sensual women if you are able to get the best from them. I always preferred class, elegance and sensuality rather than technique, and I work to make them behave like women for me.[/QUOTE]Then you can't have seen the new girl in Sharks. Kate from Romania. OMG. She began to work in the club 22 June. I think you will drive your car again many miles for her.

And Angelina in World. Didn't you like her also?

[QUOTE=Craiova;2052729]Maybe you don't see "real women angels" - whatever that means? Anymore at Hessen clubs. But stop writing additional things where you know nothing. Ofc the girls get a receipt for her daily tax downpaiment at Hessen FKK clubs.

BTW line up at the Frankfurt big FKK clubs still ways better than at dirty and boring ACA, or small and crowded LR or at GT full with MILFs and inside an atmosphere like main train station at rush hour.[/QUOTE]Who is as sexy as Kate or as classy look as Ina. Ro in Hessen at the moment? Both worked at Aca. Kate would be a busy superstar at Sharks like at GT, and she is very honest. Ina is prettier and classier, taller, slim, white skin, with green eyes and dark blond. I think she told me she is still on Wellcum website. Also little doll Barbara for only 40.

About tax receipt, just got information from a German and a Romanian girls ex Sharks. They never had any receipt back, they don't know if 25 € per day is correct about money they made. Maybe Mainhattan staff is more honest with girls about tax.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2052639] Of course, most of girls don t care if guys go with other girls because they are just money, but sometimes some girls may not want to go with you and prefer to lose your money. For some girls, not for only once, they would never behave the same after seeing you going with another girl, not only angry for once.[/QUOTE]The same when you see her go to the zimmer with ugliest, LOL.

Don't feel attracted anymore.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2052731]True. Don't buy all you hear. Untill we get blockchain currencies and move away from cash, it is all free for all. But the downside is the feminists argument of pimps. As soon as we get these blockchains up and running, the pimp argument vanishes over night, and prostitution gets universally legal.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, I can see it now. "Excuse me, do you take ether? Litecoin? Steemit? No? What kind of operation are you running here!

The exchanging of wallet information will be a ripper, imagine the confirmation times for bitcoin!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2052621]No need to register until new year for girls.

About taxes, we all heard girls telling they pay 25 on 100 per day, but their problem is who know they did pay this tax amount, they receive no receipt for this, they don't even know if it s too high or not, about money they make? They don't even know where go this money? From Hessen clubs desk to where?

In NRW, German girls declare what they want for money they make, who can control? Most of Romanians don't declare.

For example, GT girls entry is 50, free on their birthday. Same for LR.

When girls move, they become talkative about management and clients behavior.[/QUOTE]Actually, there is already some kind of obligation to register and that is the reason why the police makes controls. If they get caught once they have to regularize and if they don't at the second time then I suppose they start to have problems.

From what I understood, there is a transition period, for the registration under the new law, until first January 2018. But it is not as though they can start to look for the papers to fill at the first January 2018, they have to be ready for 2018.

And from what I understood, once you're registered you have to declare revenue, pay taxes and some extra costs like an accountant. It would be very nice if was wrong because I believe that the most pretty girls won't come back for that reason and that FKKs will be full of average or unattractive girls.

[QUOTE=Jymondor;2052474]It looks likes 100 for DFK becomes a new standard for the popular girls. And we expect another 50 for BBBJ after July 1st. So 1 HR session that considered to be standard falls to 150.[/QUOTE]Boycott the girls demanding that kind of money.

HB.

[QUOTE=Provaker;2052741]Then you can't have seen the new girl in Sharks. Kate from Romania. OMG. She began to work in the club 22 June. I think you will drive your car again many miles for her.

And Angelina in World. Didn't you like her also?[/QUOTE]I know 2 Kate but not yours.

Jolie Anjelina is cute and sweet at World, but average skin and care compare to Megan or Madi who is or was top level for body care.

On next week end I plan to drive from Duss to Zurich at night to avoid traffic in Koln, but no pit stop planned in Hessen.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2052757]The same when you see her go to the zimmer with ugliest, LOL.

Don't feel attracted anymore.[/QUOTE]I meant some girls don't forgive you when you go with another one, when they don't care what other guys go, some girls ask you not to go with others, Globe busy superstar said to be jealous about my friend Isabella, when I went to Globe for her.

When her class and elegance made me dream so often, about 40 rooms for 60 hours in less than 5 months, but she arrived on this Saturday with really a face and eyes like if she was gang banged all night, even her vagina was more fresh than last week end [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. Also too many lies, so light turned off after our room, better to avoid LR, many choices to enjoy at GT. Even my best ever in FKK, but 3 really high level at GT to make improve, 1 lost, many to come.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2052578]
So, I wouldn't worry that some working girls, reading the innermost thoughts and fears of a few dozen English speaking mongers (let's face it, a few dozen poeople post most of the comments here, me being one of the worst guilty parties) and use such knowledge against us in future negotiations; we in no way can be called more than a very small fraction of the market.
[/QUOTE]Yah you are right. The WGs are probably not gaining insight from ISG but rather via face-to-face interactions with their concerned clients. For news articles like say from Washington Post, it is said that 1 in 1000 readers usually feel compelled to post a comment. So, conservatively, we can say thousands of mongers first learned about the new laws via ISG posts. In other words, ISG fueled the concern. My original point was: both the salesperson and the prospect can gain an upper advantage if they have some insight on the opposing side.

[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2052791]Actually, there is already some kind of obligation to register and that is the reason why the police makes controls. If they get caught once they have to regularize and if they don't at the second time then I suppose they start to have problems.

From what I understood, there is a transition period, for the registration under the new law, until first January 2018. But it is not as though they can start to look for the papers to fill at the first January 2018, they have to be ready for 2018.

And from what I understood, once you're registered you have to declare revenue, pay taxes and some extra costs like an accountant. It would be very nice if was wrong because I believe that the most pretty girls won't come back for that reason and that FKKs will be full of average or unattractive girls.[/QUOTE]The registration delay will apply only for the girls older than 21 and who are already working in the club, if she wants to change club or if she just arrived in Germany she will have to register. Today the girls are paying 25 euros per day to the club which is paying the tax office (they copy the ID card every day from the girl), after the 1st July the girls will have to pay the income tax to the tax office, more complicated for the young girls without good connections. The clever girls are registered, so they can change club easily and make good money in the coming months.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2052687]Many posters seem unwilling to accept that prices are going to increase from July 1. [/QUOTE]Maybe I am selecting interpreting what I read, but I think the consensus is that the WGs will indeed increase their rates.

The debate is will they get away with it. Will it alienate customers and force them to seek out alternatives? How price sensitive are the customers? Some local German mongers are working class.

[QUOTE=ClaudeChalle;2052491]This is a self-fulfilling prophecy, good job!

This is simply called blackmail.

And what about denunciation? Girls may think twice before upselling.[/QUOTE]I don't know why they would ask more money for a more limited service.

If it becomes an unsatisfying experience, the clubs will close.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2052899]Maybe I am selecting interpreting what I read, but I think the consensus is that the WGs will indeed increase their rates.

The debate is will they get away with it. Will it alienate customers and force them to seek out alternatives? How price sensitive are the customers? Some local German mongers are working class.[/QUOTE]Do you see the cars in the parking lot? Those are not working class cars. Dudes are already paying higher prices, the girls are rightfully fancying their chances. I have been here for one month now and have only done 50 euro half hour sessions with FS, BBBJ and DATY. Good news is that I've checked with all the girls I have sessioned and I am ok with them after June 30. News is that girls' regulars will continue getting the service they are accustomed to.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2052906]Do you see the cars in the parking lot? Those are not working class cars. Dudes are already paying higher prices, the girls are rightfully fancying their chances. I have been here for one month now and have only done 50 euro half hour sessions with FS, BBBJ and DATY. Good news is that I've checked with all the girls I have sessioned and I am ok with them after June 30. News is that girls' regulars will continue getting the service they are accustomed to.[/QUOTE]Don't think German locals who are still able to fuck, agree to pay more expensive than rate 50/30 mn. Only old or not able to fuck pay more expensive for girls to accept to go with them. Also some tourists and Asians pay more, also to be sure girls want to go with them.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2052906]Do you see the cars in the parking lot? Those are not working class cars. Dudes are already paying higher prices, the girls are rightfully fancying their chances. I have been here for one month now and have only done 50 euro half hour sessions with FS, BBBJ and DATY. Good news is that I've checked with all the girls I have sessioned and I am ok with them after June 30. News is that girls' regulars will continue getting the service they are accustomed to.[/QUOTE]I would not be so optimistic, the club management is putting strong pressure to the girls to stop BBBJ the 1st of July or they will be fired. For example in Italy or France it is difficult to find a prostitute giving a BJ without condom why this will not be the same in Germany? The girls are very happy also not to be anymore "obliged" to do it.

Posted it before: BBBJ and sex is 50€/30 min. Now they reduce service levels and offer CBJ only. So shouldn't the new price be 30€ or 40€ per 30 min?

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2052925]Posted it before: BBBJ and sex is 50/30 min. Now they reduce service levels and offer CBJ only. So shouldn't the new price be 30 or 40 per 30 min?

HB.[/QUOTE]Yes, you are right but you forget the key driver of any market and in the P6 one it seems that the offer will reduce at least in quantity (some Romanian girls already left, some young one will not register etc.), probably less girls, a bit older (more experienced) could lead to a price increase.

[QUOTE=LMatador;2052767]Ah yes, I can see it now. "Excuse me, do you take ether? Litecoin? Steemit? No? What kind of operation are you running here!

The exchanging of wallet information will be a ripper, imagine the confirmation times for bitcoin![/QUOTE]In the future there will probably be a new set of centralized coins. And it will run as fast as any payment today. You'll probably have a chip in your hand, or a tatoo to pay with.

But also, a playform like the etherium will probably automate everything else too. So no need for accountants. In 10 years, given that the blockchain technology doesnt get political obstacles, every single economics job will be outdated. Except maybe for the long term investors. If you count those... then again, that will probably mean doom and gloom for the banking sector in Frankfurt too...

[QUOTE=Turgid;2052906]Do you see the cars in the parking lot? Those are not working class cars. Dudes are already paying higher prices, the girls are rightfully fancying their chances. I have been here for one month now and have only done 50 euro half hour sessions with FS, BBBJ and DATY. Good news is that I've checked with all the girls I have sessioned and I am ok with them after June 30. News is that girls' regulars will continue getting the service they are accustomed to.[/QUOTE]And some of these girls have been selling sex for 10 years already and travelled all over Europe. A nice Audi is what, 50 000 euro? Many of the nicest cars at the parking lots are owned either by the girls, or their loverboys/pimps.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2052906]Do you see the cars in the parking lot? Those are not working class cars.[/QUOTE]Yes and I've also seen Fork Kas and Opel Corsa in the parking lot.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2052906]Dudes are already paying higher prices, the girls are rightfully fancying their chances.[/QUOTE]I personally know some of the German guys driving luxury cars. And some of them take 0-1 rooms a day. These men may be often in the club, but they are not all hardcore addicts like you and I. You mentioned being a month on the ground (presumably from another continent). These same German men can't be bothered to drive two hours to attend another club!! Also, I've met Americans and Asians that are spending 500-1000 EUR a night but renting an Opel Corsa. Some of these big spenders even sleep in their car. Or some take public transportation.

Outside of Evita and Mia there aren't that many WGs that are constantly booked. Sandra, Sandy, Janine are booked, but some of that demand might be due to "scarcity" I. E. Not working every day. Rest of the girls, I mostly see desperation and slow business as Ultra Happy notes.

What leads you to believe that "dudes are paying higher prices"? Speaking with men? Speaking with WGs? Observation?

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2052925]Posted it before: BBBJ and sex is 50/30 min. Now they reduce service levels and offer CBJ only. So shouldn't the new price be 30 or 40 per 30 min?

HB.[/QUOTE]And I think the chance is 70% that nothing will change. The girls will try no doubt but give up fast.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2052925]Posted it before: BBBJ and sex is 50/30 min. Now they reduce service levels and offer CBJ only. So shouldn't the new price be 30 or 40 per 30 min?

HB.[/QUOTE]Wish you well with that approach. 6 girls last week at Sharks all said they would charge extra for it and one said she would simply stop doing BBBJ.

I agree with the comments that it WiLL change for a short while until the division in the clubs arrive whereby some girls include BBBJ as they always did and they will be popular and those upselling it will not. It will then revert back to normal.

This is an interesting article worth a read. Not on the subject of mongering, but since people keep linking expensive cars to a measure of wealth and net worth, I thought I would post this.

Obviously, there are always exceptions, but in my experience, the observations made in this article are spot on. Perhaps in countries where inheritance is a big part of people's networth this article is less relevant, but in modern societies where most rich people are self made, I think the author of this article is quite accurate.

[URL]http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/s/stanley-millionaire.html[/URL]

On the subject of Janine, it is unclear if she is even engaged in commercial activity anymore. The dudes who hang out with her and cockblock her from other men, are themselves active mongers. But they tag team her - one or two are actively working the floor and go with other girls while a couple more are guarding her (chastity??) and the monger dudes return and the guarding dudes move onto the floor to seek their own sessions. For some reason, she seems fine with all this, to my great frustration 2 weeks ago.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2052948]Yes and I've also seen Fork Kas and Opel Corsa in the parking lot.

I personally know some of the German guys driving luxury cars. And some of them take 0-1 rooms a day. These men may be often in the club, but they are not all hardcore addicts like you and I. You mentioned being a month on the ground (presumably from another continent). These same German men can't be bothered to drive two hours to attend another club!! Also, I've met Americans and Asians that are spending 500-1000 EUR a night but renting an Opel Corsa. Some of these big spenders even sleep in their car. Or some take public transportation.

Outside of Evita and Mia there aren't that many WGs that are constantly booked. Sandra, Sandy, Janine are booked, but some of that demand might be due to "scarcity" I. E. Not working every day. Rest of the girls, I mostly see desperation and slow business as Ultra Happy notes.

What leads you to believe that "dudes are paying higher prices"? Speaking with men? Speaking with WGs? Observation?[/QUOTE]Actually I've seen more than 2 girls who are constantly booked to the extent that I can't even get to talk to them. Same with Evita whose name I discovered via her friend Aphrodite. Is Evita that good? I doubt it; guys probably session her for her looks and she may not even do 50 euro rooms; I'm not sure, but she's hot. I banged her less sizzling friend Aphrodite who I would rate as below average in the sack in comparison to say a Brazilian or Salvadorean provider but good in terms of FKK.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2052948]What leads you to believe that "dudes are paying higher prices"? Speaking with men? Speaking with WGs? Observation?[/QUOTE]Drooling over Evita made me forget the reason I responded to you in the first place. I have chatted with some providers who have outright told me they are not doing 50 Euro sessions and they have been fairly busy. I know it is not age discrimination because some of their customers are older than me. If, in fact, these customers are paying 50 euros then perhaps its possible that word has gotten around that I do multiple positions during the 30 minutes. In any event many blokes go to the rooms for one hour or more which could be yielding to upselling.

I am visiting Germany in mid July, and, in view of the scale of sharkiness at Sharks, plan on not going there (Sharks).( I take UH's point elsewhere that all clubs will change, but I feel that Sharks and a few others are likely to be the vanguard in trying to increase prices) If I'm not there then the girls can't even try to charge me more LOL.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2052948]Yes and I've also seen Fork Kas and Opel Corsa in the parking lot.

I personally know some of the German guys driving luxury cars. And some of them take 0-1 rooms a day. These men may be often in the club, but they are not all hardcore addicts like you and I. You mentioned being a month on the ground (presumably from another continent). These same German men can't be bothered to drive two hours to attend another club!! Also, I've met Americans and Asians that are spending 500-1000 EUR a night but renting an Opel Corsa. Some of these big spenders even sleep in their car. Or some take public transportation.

Outside of Evita and Mia there aren't that many WGs that are constantly booked. Sandra, Sandy, Janine are booked, but some of that demand might be due to "scarcity" I. E. Not working every day. Rest of the girls, I mostly see desperation and slow business as Ultra Happy notes. [/QUOTE]Lovely Sandra and Mandy deserve to have good business, for their behavior, kindness and honesty. They are German, but no extra asked like Audi.

I m so poor I can't anymore afford upselling Sharks rates I read about, I even have to sleep in my car, because I save my money for my now 4 girls at GT who cost me 500 per day and when I saw Megan sexy photos, to go to Globe where Megan and my GF Isabella will cost me 1000 in a day. Maybe I will even have to sell my igloo, my ski, my bike and my clothes.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2053077]
I have chatted with some providers who have outright told me they are not doing 50 Euro sessions and they have been fairly busy.
[/QUOTE]If you are a sex tourist from another continent, they know at minimum you have already invested a minimum of 1000 EUR on your trip. Most international tourists I've spoken to seem to budget between 2000-5000 for their trip. If you are in FKK land due to a business trip, then they know you are probably not a junior level employee. You also mentioned being older. Typically older men from Western countries have accumulated or inherited wealth. So the WGs can quickly formulate a profile within minutes.

How many minutes into the interview, do they say "I only do 50 EUR"?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2053077]
In any event many blokes go to the rooms for one hour or more which could be yielding to upselling.[/QUOTE]Watching the money locker area, I am not seeing purple notes or wads of bills exchanged.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2053258]If you are a sex tourist from another continent, they know at minimum you have already invested a minimum of 1000 EUR on your trip. Most international tourists I've spoken to seem to budget between 2000-5000 for their trip. If you are in FKK land due to a business trip, then they know you are probably not a junior level employee. You also mentioned being older. Typically older men from Western countries have accumulated or inherited wealth. So the WGs can quickly formulate a profile within minutes.

How many minutes into the interview, do they say "I only do 50 EUR"?

Watching the money locker area, I am not seeing purple notes or wads of bills exchanged.[/QUOTE]I visited Shark 10 times in the last 3 weeks and I must say that I was never disappointed, great and large LU, all style of girls present. Shark was not my favorite club in the past months but it is becoming more and more. Also I can see that some senior German mongers are also switching from other clubs to Shark. If you are a clean man, smelling good, older than 35 and Caucasian than you will have all the choice available even for 50 euros, after it is true that like in the other clubs some girls will not go for 50 euros if you miss some of the previous criteria specially the last one, sorry to be so direct.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2052948]

Outside of Evita and Mia there aren't that many WGs that are constantly booked.
[/QUOTE]Aileen comes to mind.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2052968]
[URL]http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/s/stanley-millionaire.html[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Interesting read. Mark Zuckerberg is worth $20 billion but drives $30 K hatchback.

German males in the 45+ demographic take great pride in their vehicles:

"They spend more on average than people from other countries do on a car and have a clear preference for high-end vehicles.

[URL]http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/transport/germans-love-affair-with-their-cars-changing-gears[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2053222]Lovely Sandra and Mandy deserve to have good business, for their behavior, kindness and honesty. They are German, but no extra asked like Audi.

I m so poor I can't anymore afford upselling Sharks rates I read about, I even have to sleep in my car, because I save my money for my now 4 girls at GT who cost me 500 per day and when I saw Megan sexy photos, to go to Globe where Megan and my GF Isabella will cost me 1000 in a day. Maybe I will even have to sell my igloo, my ski, my bike and my clothes.[/QUOTE]Sorry I can t follow you, Shark is 100 euros per hour (+extra if any), it is the same price as at GT, Globe would be more expensive, lucky man if a girl at GT is only asking 500 euros for the full day.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2053273]Interesting read. Mark Zuckerberg is worth $20 billion but drives $30 K hatchback.

German males in the 45+ demographic take great pride in their vehicles:

"They spend more on average than people from other countries do on a car and have a clear preference for high-end vehicles.

[URL]http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/transport/germans-love-affair-with-their-cars-changing-gears[/URL][/QUOTE]2 comments on that, first a friend of mine is selling cars in Germany, many guys are purchasing theirs cars on leasing or with bank loans sometimes for 8 years, second just go on the parking of a hard discounter like Aldi or Lidl and you will be surprised by the cars you will see.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2053258]
Watching the money locker area, I am not seeing purple notes or wads of bills exchanged.[/QUOTE]Most 500+ EUR sessions will not be paid openly at the lockers.

HB.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2053077]In any event many blokes go to the rooms for one hour or more which could be yielding to upselling.[/QUOTE]Rubbish. Listen, if you are cheap, own it but don't accuse other guys of being weak to upselling.

I don't think poorly of guys only wanting to spend 50 E to cum with a hot chick, that has value if that's all a monger wants from a WG. But taking my time in a 1 hour or even 2 hour room has value for me, as long as it's mostly fucking during that time.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2053279]Most 500+ EUR sessions will not be paid openly at the lockers.[/QUOTE]Ups! How do YOU know this? I've never told you this. LOL but you're right.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2053283]Rubbish. Listen, if you are cheap, own it but don't accuse other guys of being weak to upselling.

I don't think poorly of guys only wanting to spend 50 E to cum with a hot chick, that has value if that's all a monger wants from a WG. But taking my time in a 1 hour or even 2 hour room has value for me, as long as it's mostly fucking during that time.[/QUOTE]If I say that I'm cheap I'd be dishonest. I just manage my money prudently. I'd never spend 100 Euros for the same thing I can get for 50 Euros; and I'd be like that even if I were a billionaire. Now I have absolutely no problem with guys spending double what I'm paying for the same thing. To the guys who spend 1000 Euros sessioning and talking with the girls in the room for hours I say to them enjoy yourselves, its your money. I'm happy for you and the girl.

Hi fellas,

Not been to an FKK since January as frankly I got bored with the scene but toying with idea of hitting Sharks this week. Anyway my last visit there was made quite memorable by a blonde German girl, she had thick body (not skinny) was really sweet, and just clicked with her. I rarely ever remember escorts names but I think her name was Lina or Lea. Anyone know who am talking of? Is she still at Sharks?

Hi,

Anyone knows if Lili still works there? Plan to visit Shark again.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2052968]On the subject of Janine, it is unclear if she is even engaged in commercial activity anymore. The dudes who hang out with her and cockblock her from other men, are themselves active mongers. But they tag team her - one or two are actively working the floor and go with other girls while a couple more are guarding her (chastity??) and the monger dudes return and the guarding dudes move onto the floor to seek their own sessions. For some reason, she seems fine with all this, to my great frustration 2 weeks ago.[/QUOTE]Are you sure she is really upheld from going with other guys then? I presume you asked and not just assumed she was busy? Even if she has guys as friends to sit and chat and laugh with doesn't have to mean she is always busy.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2053273]Interesting read. Mark Zuckerberg is worth $20 billion but drives $30 K hatchback.

German males in the 45+ demographic take great pride in their vehicles:

"They spend more on average than people from other countries do on a car and have a clear preference for high-end vehicles.

[URL]http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/transport/germans-love-affair-with-their-cars-changing-gears[/URL][/QUOTE]I spotted the richest guy in my hometown at the airport about a year ago. If I didn't know who he was, I'd almost think he was someone sleeping on the street. LOL at his clothing style.

A lot of rich people hate the attention it can bring show it, and chances are you'll get mugged.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2053288]Ups! How do YOU know this? I've never told you this. LOL but you're right.[/QUOTE]I will pay you less next time. (LOL).

[QUOTE=Pistons;2053411]Are you sure she is really upheld from going with other guys then? I presume you asked and not just assumed she was busy? Even if she has guys as friends to sit and chat and laugh with doesn't have to mean she is allways busy.[/QUOTE]On 2 occasions some time ago when I asked her whether she was free, the youngish guy, who was on those occasions just sitting beside her without talking to her, intervened immediately saying she was busy before she could answer me. She then looked away.

Anyway, having had 2 sessions with her already, I would say that she is not worth waiting for. However should she be free from her entourage, she is worth the optifuck. She is quite friendly when they are totally not around, although she makes no effort to turn on any charm.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2053460]On 2 occasions some time ago when I asked her whether she was free, the youngish guy, who was on those occasions just sitting beside her without talking to her, intervened immediately saying she was busy before she could answer me. She then looked away.

Anyway, having had 2 sessions with her already, I would say that she is not worth waiting for. However should she be free from her entourage, she is worth the optifuck. She is quite friendly when they are totally not around, although she makes no effort to turn on any charm.[/QUOTE]This cock blocking is quite annoying. So far it has prevented me from sessioning certain girls I want.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2053222]I m so poor I can't anymore afford upselling Sharks rates I read about, I even have to sleep in my car, because I save my money now.[/QUOTE]If new usual rates in Hessen should become: 100 for 1 hour to take time to enjoy and foreplay for slow guys like me + 50 for becoming forbidden BBBJ + 50 for CIM business to save vagina, like right now, then 200 per hour.

I'm pretty sure not much will change in NRW, at GT, LR and even for 80/ h with beauties at Aca. Superb Ina who would be the prettiest and classiest anywhere, she was prettier than Kate, told me guys gave her 50/30 mn, I gave her 80 for our 4 1 hour rooms and she repeated with smiles after our first room. I think she enjoyed to give me to drink her juice.

Unfortunately, 2 top Russian escorts agencies are closed in Paris, medias saying escorts were forced to come to make money in Paris, when I met so many, so many times, for so many of their tours, for years, sending me photos of kids growing up, saying they couldn't come back before few months because not allowed to tour until a while by agency, but good thing is these Russian escorts are already back in Paris, just a few days after, for less expensive. I m pretty sure a clever experienced guy will be able now to get a Russian beauty with Escort GFE level with CIM for 200 for nearly 1 hour. Lower rates than 250+50 for CIM before.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2053460]Anyway, having had 2 sessions with her already, I would say that she is not worth waiting for. However should she be free from her entourage, she is worth the optifuck. She is quite friendly when they are totally not around, although she makes no effort to turn on any charm.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have been with her. She wants to enjoy life as much as we do. Cannot really blame her. She is something to herself when it comes to FKK girls though. So a change of pace. But a fun attitude on her. I could repeat, but would need to be in the right mood. And then it wouldn't just be the optics, but the chemistry of the day as well.

Tugrid: it doesn't sound like Sharks will be your favourite club with that attitude. I think you'll like other clubs more.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2053490]Yes, I have been with her. She wants to enjoy life as much as we do. Cannot really blame her. She is something to herself when it comes to FKK girls though. So a change of pace. But a fun attitude on her. I could repeat, but would need to be in the right mood. And then it wouldn't just be the optics, but the chemistry of the day as well.[/QUOTE]This precisely sums up my experience with her. She is the only FKK girl I have taken with the attitude that she did not really care for my money. She was chatty and cracked a number of crude jokes in a surprisingly loud and jovial voice. And her body was a sight to behold up close and caress. I could not resist just burying my face into her soft tits. But unfortunately, her service was just adequate, and so like you I would need to be in the right mood to take her again; i.e. just wanting to be entertained by a very pretty girl, without great need for sexual satisfaction.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2053460]On 2 occasions some time ago when I asked her whether she was free, the youngish guy, who was on those occasions just sitting beside her without talking to her, intervened immediately saying she was busy before she could answer me. She then looked away.

Anyway, having had 2 sessions with her already, I would say that she is not worth waiting for. However should she be free from her entourage, she is worth the optifuck. She is quite friendly when they are totally not around, although she makes no effort to turn on any charm.[/QUOTE]She looks as a doll when she smiles and play for hours with her hair. She might born blond. Beautiful body but she doesn't know how to walk on high heels, I think she never walked on before brothel, no elegance, so not really attractive.

Anyway, good for her to be paid for not even classy companionship.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2053460]On 2 occasions some time ago when I asked her whether she was free, the youngish guy, who was on those occasions just sitting beside her without talking to her, intervened immediately saying she was busy before she could answer me. She then looked away.

Anyway, having had 2 sessions with her already, I would say that she is not worth waiting for. However should she be free from her entourage, she is worth the optifuck. She is quite friendly when they are totally not around, although she makes no effort to turn on any charm.[/QUOTE]Shark has a lot of girls who are more enjoying the life than to go to room without end. By sunny weather just look around the pool how many young girls are enjoying the sun bath for many hours even they don't look at you, for me this is the good attitude. Obviously most of them are nice, young etc. So easy for them to make money when they want.

Has anyone been in Sharks this week? How is the line up? Could you name top girls you saw, please?

I might go, or not.

[QUOTE=ReefLostCause;2053270]Aileen comes to mind.[/QUOTE]She was not so busy last weekend.

Mandy yes.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2053507] She was chatty and cracked a number of crude jokes in a surprisingly loud and jovial voice.

i.e. just wanting to be entertained by a very pretty girl, without great need for sexual satisfaction.[/QUOTE]Janine and cracking jokes? Sure it was her?

HB.

[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2053622] Mandy yes.[/QUOTE]Mandy and Evita are constantly booked. You need to make appointments I understand from her admirers who come from afar. Good business for them.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2053715]Mandy and Evita are constantly booked. You need to make appointments I understand from her admirers who come from afar. Good business for them.[/QUOTE]In the last days Mandy was not so busy, easy to get a session with her.

Does someone have news of Eva?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2053729]Does someone have news of Eva?[/QUOTE]She works in golden time in Austria.

[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2053618]Has anyone been in Sharks this week? How is the line up? Could you name top girls you saw, please?

I might go, or not.[/QUOTE]It seems like it was a full house despite the time of year being the longest and one of the hottest. Good times.

Barbecue was served each day.

For McAdonis there was Brenda / Leya. But no Kaira.

Janine was present on Friday but not on Saturday or Sunday. Janine is constantly surrounded by her Germanic cock blockers who take turns guarding her chastity. I feel for Jnpr30 who suffered this during his sojourn in Sharks.

Aphrodite who says she is from Greek land. She has big boobies.

Diana who is slim and pretty with perfectly shaped be cup breasts. She has white shoes. She has a soft body to the touch. Kisses really nice.

Optimists girl from the gang of Diana. Kitty was it or something like that.

Vivian the red head also of Diana's gang.

Mandy the German.

Lana the German.

Paloma, also known as skinny Karina when she was working at World.

Hannah the bouncing Czech. Nice boobies.

The Lithuanian that is a real woman and goes only with one silver fox client.

Ada, the girl that look like Diana. She has silver shoes.

Nicoletta the Hungarian. Blondie.

Dina the Hungarian. She is an ice queen. Blondie.

Yvette. She is skinny and really tanned. Kisses really nice.

Ester or Esther. Blondie. Kisses if you pay her more.

Alexia for Pistons. She is well formed but soft body. She sits by the sauna couches.

Enya the blondie.

Evita, she was constantly booked every day by her paramours who seem to be practicing a form of Enjo kōsai. Her running mate Cosmina must be away. She look good so I understand Turgid who says he was distracted by her.

Amalia the younger sister. Kisses and sucks good but no anal.

Elif the older sister.

No Dora the explorer for her fans of her corkscrew style blow job and hand job.

Monika the hunter worker.

No Roxanna.

There was a pile of new girls including a cute little red head one. I let the long term local foreigners take them.

Lavinia, she looks good when she does not have her towel constantly around her ass. Nice boobies like Diana and she has so long legs.

No Hanna the black haired girl and no Helli for those that ask.

I forget many others. Maybe someone else can chime in. I need to go back.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2053729]Does someone have news of Eva?[/QUOTE]Who is Eva?

Haven't seen Eva for a while. Even after her break about a year ago her service changed, not for the better.

Aphrodite with big boobies? And Czech Hannah does have silicone.

HB.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2053411]Are you sure she is really upheld from going with other guys then? I presume you asked and not just assumed she was busy? Even if she has guys as friends to sit and chat and laugh with doesn't have to mean she is allways busy.[/QUOTE]Janine has always got Germans around her. If its not her young man regular then its another guy taking her time chatting her up or coping a free feel.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2053743]Nicoletta the Hungarian. Blondie.

Dina the Hungarian. She is an ice queen. Blondie..[/QUOTE]Does Nicolette come back to Sharks? When did you see her?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2053479]Unfortunately, 2 top Russian escorts agencies are closed in Paris, medias saying escorts were forced to come to make money in Paris, when I met so many, so many times, for so many of their tours, for years, sending me photos of kids growing up, saying they couldn't come back before few months because not allowed to tour until a while by agency, but good thing is these Russian escorts are already back in Paris, just a few days after, for less expensive. I m pretty sure a clever experienced guy will be able now to get a Russian beauty with Escort GFE level with CIM for 200 for nearly 1 hour. Lower rates than 250+50 for CIM before.[/QUOTE]Getting same top Russians here for 110,125, 135 and 165. Half hour. 2nd half hour is usually +55. With kissing with tongue and BBBJ both included. Sometimes the best ones can be the ones for 110 also it is 100% random what price they go for... boring apartments though. So I prefer to go to fkks still even if it is more expensive given entrance cost. But for me it is also the experience of the club, and to see many girls around to choose from... competition has ramped up just the last 12 months... a few years ago there were far in between the hotties... but you can also get some of the less pretty Romanians (5s and 6s) for as low as 75e... and 24 months ago 110 was as cheap as they went... (cim is usually not standard. So you must negotiate, but I never ask or go for that anyway).

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2053629]Janine and cracking jokes? Sure it was her?

HB.[/QUOTE]HB: are you serious? Each time I've sat with Jeanine she cracks jokes constantly. Really a fun girl to have a drink with. Just ashamed my German is not 100% fluent, so I get a slight lag. But I see why Germans like to hang with her. She actually has humor. For a German.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2053824]Getting same top russians here for 110,125, 135 and 165. Half hour. 2nd half hour is usually +55. With kissing with tongue and BBBJ both included. Sometimes the best ones can be the ones for 110 also it is 100% random what price they go for... boring apartments though. So I prefer to go to fkks still even if it is more expensive given entrance cost. But for me it is also the experience of the club, and to see many girls around to choose from... competition has ramped up just the last 12 months... a few years ago there were far in between the hotties... but you can also get some of the less pretty romanians (5s and 6s) for as low as 75e... and 24 months ago 110 was as cheap as they went... (cim is usually not standard. So you must negotiate, but I never ask or go for that anyway)[/QUOTE]What I wanted to mean is if Hessen: Palace, Oase and now Sharks, girls ask for 50 for DFK and 50 for undercoat BBBJ, so 200 / h and maybe 50 more for CIM which make save vagina, then they will be as or more expensive than Russian escorts, I loved to meet them in hotels, but I don't remember 1 girl in these clubs, when the prettiest at Sharks left, who is pretty enough to pay 200 for, when I won't have any problem to pay 280 for 1 hour with Megan or Katalina when she was on tour.

100 for 1 hour with DFK, BBBJ, no money talk, is my own standard rate in German FKK, only a very few high sensuality, very woman, girls deserve longer time and more to spend.

My Russian escorts are prettier and higher GFE level than FKK beauties average level I experience, even some FKK girls can compete and don t ask more money than average level ones. I even think top FKK girls upsell less than average girls, because top girls have usually good business, so they don t need to upsell like those who prefer to stay sitting warming their ass.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2053511]She looks as a doll when she smiles and play for hours with her hair. She might born blond. Beautiful body but she doesn't know how to walk on high heels, I think she never walked on before brothel, no elegance, so not really attractive.

Anyway, good for her to be paid for not even classy companionship.[/QUOTE]I meant empty doll, about her face.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2053773]Does Nicolette come back to Sharks? When did you see her?[/QUOTE]Throughout June she has been seen.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2053743]It seems like it was a full house despite the time of year being the longest and one of the hottest. Good times.

Barbecue was served each day.


I forget many others. Maybe someone else can chime in. I need to go back.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info!

Went to Sharks last night, first time going to an FKK. Thought it was nice but hot in the rooms. Girls looked good, saw a handful of 8's and 9's walking around. A lot of guys too, seemed like a 2 to 1 ratio of guys to girls. Met a girl from Spain and a real sweetheart Romanian named Esteffie? Would go back just for her but going to Oase tonight.

Oh yeah the drinks were kinda expensive.

[QUOTE=Sho423;2053940]Went to Sharks last night, first time going to an FKK. Thought it was nice but hot in the rooms. Girls looked good, saw a handful of 8's and 9's walking around. A lot of guys too, seemed like a 2 to 1 ratio of guys to girls. Met a girl from Spain and a real sweetheart Romanian named Esteffie? Would go back just for her but going to Oase tonight.

Oh yeah the drinks were kinda expensive.[/QUOTE]Sorry but I don't understand the meaning of your report, you want to go back but you went to Oase?

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2053773]Does Nicolette come back to Sharks? When did you see her?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bitumen;2053890]Throughout June she has been seen.[/QUOTE]Wait, really? Throughout June? She had her 21st BD a few days ago and I "thought" she was in still in Hungary.

I know that's what you ment siri. You should also count in entrance cost by the way. But honestly, people preference in girls vary to a great extent. Such as your Megan who I wouldn't even have paid 50 for all included. And it is good we have different taste also, or it would be impossible to get our favourites. But nevertheless, there is one thing Russians are well known for while we are on the subject, and that is a very high rate of kissing with tongue. Over 90% of Russian women I have met consider that such a basic part of sex that they never ask for extra for it. I actually think most of them never would have thought about charging extra for it if it wasn't for the state of the industry and other nationalities.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2054221]I know that's what you ment siri. You should also count in entrance cost by the way. But honestly, people preference in girls vary to a great extent. Such as your Megan who I wouldnt even have paid 50 for all included. And it is good we have different taste also, or it would be impossible to get our favourites. But nevertheless, there is one thing russians are well known for while we are on the subject, and that is a very high rate of kissing with tongue. Over 90% of russian women I have met consider that such a basic part of sex that they never ask for extra for it. I actually think most of them never would have thought about charging extra for it if it wasnt for the state of the industry and other nationalities.[/QUOTE]I just compare rates for time and girls level. 200/ h is escorts level for me, for beauty, elegance, manners and care for look, and GFE level. Club entry is for me for foods, drinks, sauna even I don t go, jacuzzi, swimming pool even too cold in Germany. When I play German, I arrive before noon to take big breakfast before sport, breakfast is very important when You make sport, if I don t find the faintest attractive girl, I will eat and drink many times, no tits milk and woman juice to drink, until 4 am for sandwiches at World or Mainhattan, sometimes eating and drinking for 18 hours for 50 €, not so expensive for hotel like Oase relax room with yellow mushi and restaurant all along.

I know Megan is too tall for your tastes, but she has Russian type round face and small model body. Most of my Romanian favs are great kisser, some like Daria LR can be passionate, and no upselling of course.

At Vip GT or last night at Samya, when I go with a new girl and after 5 minutes I say to her if she wants I prefer to take my time with her and stay for 1 hour, I get smile, kiss, no money talk and fluent room. Had again my little mum juice at 3 am, before going in my igloo.

For me, 100 for 1 hour is my good standard to work with a girl. With DFK and foreplay of course. Wait and see about BBBJ, or the end of the world.

[QUOTE=Sho423;2053940]Went to Sharks last night, first time going to an FKK. Thought it was nice but hot in the rooms. Girls looked good, saw a handful of 8's and 9's walking around. A lot of guys too, seemed like a 2 to 1 ratio of guys to girls. Met a girl from Spain and a real sweetheart Romanian named Esteffie? Would go back just for her but going to Oase tonight.

Oh yeah the drinks were kinda expensive.[/QUOTE]At last someone who is honest about guys to girls ratio. Many posters have been saying that the number of girls exceed that of guys and that its tough for girls but that has not been my observation for the past few weeks I've been here. Most times there are more punters than WGs and they have been very busy, its always difficult to get good rooms.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2054335]At last someone who is honest about guys to girls ratio. Many posters have been saying that the number of girls exceed that of guys and that its tough for girls but that has not been my observation for the past few weeks I've been here. Most times there are more punters than WGs and they have been very busy, its always difficult to get good rooms.[/QUOTE]I guess business has picked up strongly since my visit at the beginning of the month. I read that even the nearby FKK Rom has been deluged with men.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2054335]At last someone who is honest about guys to girls ratio. Many posters have been saying that the number of girls exceed that of guys and that its tough for girls but that has not been my observation for the past few weeks I've been here. Most times there are more punters than WGs and they have been very busy, its always difficult to get good rooms.[/QUOTE]It strongly depends on the day and the time. Monday, Tuesday and Thursday there's usually more girls than guys. Wednesday and Sunday it's the other way round, all the wellness clientele are attending. Friday and Saturday are quite busy, different clientele in the night than in the day.

HB.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2054166]Wait, really? Throughout June? She had her 21st BD a few days ago and I "thought" she was in still in Hungary.[/QUOTE]Truth is, a working girl has the right to celebrate her birthday as often as she likes, and in particular around the dates her client is around. And the funny thing is, even if she has a birthday every day, in twenty years she won't be more than 29 yo anyway!!

The math works in mysterious ways in the mongering world.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2054459]Truth is, a working girl has the right to celebrate her birthday as often as she likes, and in particular around the dates her client is around. And the funny thing is, even if she has a birthday every day, in twenty years she won't be more than 29 yo anyway!!

The math works in mysterious ways in the mongering world.[/QUOTE]It was the 14th January when Nicoletta told me the date of her birthday. She is an honest girl.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2054387]It strongly depends on the day and the time. Monday, Tuesday and Thursday there's usually more girls than guys. Wednesday and Sunday it's the other way round, all the wellness clientele are attending. Friday and Saturday are quite busy, different clientele in the night than in the day.

HB.[/QUOTE]Was at Shark today until 11 PM, before 10 PM more girls than men, unusual for a Friday but it seems there is a big event in Darmstadt, after 10 a lot of Turkish guys arriving.

Well, that wasn't the point of my post. As I found it amusing to find out that she was there when I doubt she was really there. Her last day at the club was back in May. I actually just checked with her, her last day was May 5th to be exact. And she only went back to get her stuff. In and out of the club. So, unless there is another Nicolette from Hungary, there was no way she could be in the club throughout June.

[QUOTE=CarpeViam;2054497]It was the 14th January when Nicoletta told me the date of her birthday. She is an honest girl.[/QUOTE]Nope, maybe you remember it wrong (according the her FB and her friends and family wishes).

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2054605]Nope, maybe you remember it wrong (according the her FB and her friends and family wishes).[/QUOTE]I wrote in January (2016) she told me her birthday date. She did not try to lie about it. Sorry for my poor English.

I didn't see Nicoletta last weekend at Sharks and neither my all time Favorite.

Went to Sharks yesterday again to session with Steffie. Took her for 3 1/2 hours. Planned on staying longer then expected. After we session she hung out with me at the bar and had a drink and chatted for a bit and I was on my way. The ratio this time was about 1 to 1. About 40 to 40. A lot better than last time. About 3-5 beautiful girls I saw. It was a nice experience coming to Frankfurt. Went to Sharks twice and Oase once and I prefer Sharks. Just the setup of the place is a lot better, you feel more open unlike Oase you feel closed in. Definitely will be back, I will miss this place. And about the new law, Steffie said that the boss told her about it but didn't feel like they will enforce it but they know they will make more money from it and I don't blame them.

I'm back to Frankfurt in September, how's the new law at the club? I know its the first day but being one of my favourite clubs I'm curious.

So I came back yesterday to Sharks. I preferred to advance my bi-weekly FKK visit, just in case of. I feared there would be a lot of people but there wasn't, it was as a usual Friday or Saturday. There is an additional sauna outside, was it really needed?

Two new moderately pretty girls I never saw. Lili. Ro, a real redhead, only 19, quite small, inexperienced, basic services. She looked sad and has the tattoo of her boyfriend or pimp on her body. It's not the first time I see this name. I don't think she will last long.

The second girl was Lori. Ro, thin and big boobs with right tits default, she has freckles and short curly blond hair she tries to tame. Poor services, unless more money, and strange behavior. She had something that looked like a scar on her lips. Later in the evening, members of some gang showed up. Beard, tattoes, bald and big arms. The one with Jesus (? I guessed) tattoed on his arms seems to be the dominant male. He was sitting on a sofa with one his pal, discussing and then Lori without the scar on her lips and with hair straigthen tried to turn them on. The guys touch her a little but didn't showed much interest and after a while Lori left, a little a bit disappointed probably. I guess the guy pays very well.

Line up was as usual, not very good but not so bad.

[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2054806]The second girl was Lori. Ro, thin and big boobs with right tits default, she has freckles and short curly blond hair she tries to tame. Poor services, unless more money, and strange behavior. She had something that looked like a scar on her lips. Later in the evening, members of some gang showed up. Beard, tattoes, bald and big arms. The one with Jesus (? I guessed) tattoed on his arms seems to be the dominant male. He was sitting on a sofa with one his pal, discussing and then Lori without the scar on her lips and with hair straigthen tried to turn them on. The guys touch her a little but didn't showed much interest and after a while Lori left, a little a bit disappointed probably. I guess the guy pays very well.[/QUOTE]That paying well is a possibility, I daresay you would hope they paid at least the minimum tariff and not less.

A more probable answer is the girls like a bad boy hence why they do this sort of work. The badder the boy the better. The prim and proper interested in a stable life and long term job type of girls do not attract to this prostitution business so readily.

Many times you hear these girls in their unguarded moments lament over a pretty boy with good firm bodies that they can swoon over. Then these girls retract and compose themselves again saying that they admire your disappearing hair and enjoy touching your rotund tummy and patting your flabby ass.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2054815]
A more probable answer is the girls like a bad boy hence why they do this sort of work. The badder the boy the better. The prim and proper interested in a stable life and long term job type of girls do not attract to this prostitution business so readily.
[/QUOTE]They were not good looking, the 2 older, in their forties probably, are starting to have belly. Plus I saw a girl waiting for a subordinate to pay her. And in the morning, I also saw Lori going directly to a big fish. Lori is not that pretty for so much money. Actually, there's no more girl at Sharks worth escort rates. Unfortunately.

[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2054869] Lori is not that pretty for so much money. Actually, there's no more girl at Sharks worth escort rates. Unfortunately.[/QUOTE]Except Dina, Evita but we know about her specialized business and she is clever for her business, Sandra when she works, and Mandy, most of Sharks stars left, even when they were busy, like Katalina or Megan, but so many told about too many problems with some clients at Sharks, not only night type of clients. Money to make for stars, but not good and safe conditions for their hard job. Pity because club improved a lot, with many works, since my discovery on beginning of 2014. But attractive girls are the most important for me, I prefer to follow them, rather than being stuck to a place. Duss is closer for me, Zurich is about same than FRA.

Times change, but still attractive and not upselling girls in Germany. Just have to work to find them.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2055475] ...but so many told about too many problems with some clients at Sharks, not only night type of clients. Money to make for stars, but not good and safe conditions for their hard job. Pity because club improved a lot, with many works, since my discovery on beginning of 2014. But attractive girls are the most important for me, I prefer to follow them, rather than being stuck to a place. Duss is closer for me, Zurich is about same than FRA.

Times change, but still attractive and not upselling girls in Germany. Just have to work to find them.[/QUOTE]I don't mind upselling and paying for extra's as long as they're top attractive. Some are really worth it. I don't like booking hotel and plane just for sex. I never did, it makes me think that I am 'sexual tourist'. While when I take my car to drive around and by 'chance' make a stop on a FKK I am just a European citizen taking advantage of the Treaty of Maastricht. I know it is stupid.

But I guess as I am getting older I am getting a worse human being (to my very personal standards), so maybe, I am a bad people after all and I will follow them in Zurich.

I filed a complain on the decrease of the line up and behavior of certain customers on Sharks website [URL]http://www.fkk-sharks.de/en/kontakt/feedback/.[/URL] It might have an effect, or not.

[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2055699]I don't mind upselling and paying for extra's as long as they're top attractive. Some are really worth it. I don't like booking hotel and plane just for sex. I never did, it makes me think that I am 'sexual tourist'. While when I take my car to drive around and by 'chance' make a stop on a FKK I am just a European citizen taking advantage of the Treaty of Maastricht. I know it is stupid.

But I guess as I am getting older I am getting a worse human being (to my very personal standards), so maybe, I am a bad people after all and I will follow them in Zurich.

I filed a complain on the decrease of the line up and behavior of certain customers on Sharks website [URL]http://www.fkk-sharks.de/en/kontakt/feedback/.[/URL] It might have an effect, or not.[/QUOTE]At least, I try to be honest with myself, I don't drive every week end to visit Germany, even I like to go to Nurburgring or Hockenheim ring or Nordpark, but my pleasure is to find pretty girls. I m not only interested by sex, my eyes and brain need beauties.

Yes, Sharks fell for casting since last summer, like World fell before. Oase is for little teeny girls lovers. But can still find in Germany for 100 for 1 h without upselling, high level girls, at GT, LR, and even not so bad at Samya with real beauties. No need to go to Switzerland if you don't follow some girls like I did. Of course, Globe, History and Swiss are high level, and you can have great GFE rooms at Swiss for 89/30 mn and 100/30 mn at History, maybe less expensive than new rates at Sharks and Oase, with much higher level for skill. Shower together after room offered at Globe, History and with my girl at GT.

[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2054869]They were not good looking, the 2 older, in their forties probably, are starting to have belly. Plus I saw a girl waiting for a subordinate to pay her. And in the morning, I also saw Lori going directly to a big fish. Lori is not that pretty for so much money. Actually, there's no more girl at Sharks worth escort rates. Unfortunately.[/QUOTE]This is sad.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2055728]This is sad.[/QUOTE]I don't understand this story and concern, I don't care about what is around or I will never go with any girl. Just a small advice, arrive 30 minutes before opening hour of any big FKK and you will see cars with RO plates, with guys inside dropping the girls to the clubs, boy friend, driver, pimp etc?

[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2055699]
I filed a complain on the decrease of the line up and behavior of certain customers on Sharks website [URL]http://www.fkk-sharks.de/en/kontakt/feedback/.[/URL] It might have an effect, or not.[/QUOTE]Or not.

HB.

I went Sharks on Monday evening which was my first visit. I had my second 1-hour session with Emilia, she said she was 20 years old. Not-so-big tits but her face is definitely my cup of tea. She was so good at kissing and foreplay. I like the smell of her. Does anyone know about her?

[QUOTE=Dracarys;2055986]I went Sharks on Monday evening which was my first visit. I had my second 1-hour session with Emilia, she said she was 20 years old. Not-so-big tits but her face is definitely my cup of tea. She was so good at kissing and foreplay. I like the smell of her. Does anyone know about her?[/QUOTE]Is Emilia like Amalia?

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2056111]Is Emilia like Amalia?[/QUOTE]I think that's her. Her face was so cute! No wonder when I heard this name, I felt familiar. Anyone did threesome with Amalia and her sister? BTW, do you recommend anyone with big natural tits, I would like to try big tits girl next time I visit.

[QUOTE=Dracarys;2055986]I went Sharks on Monday evening which was my first visit. I had my second 1-hour session with Emilia, she said she was 20 years old. Not-so-big tits but her face is definitely my cup of tea. She was so good at kissing and foreplay. I like the smell of her. Does anyone know about her?[/QUOTE]So many new girls every day at Shark, you need to describe her a bit and also if you can tell where she is sitting.

The 2 sisters are a gem, must bang them both but I definitely prefer to fuck them separately so that I can enjoy both.

For natural big tits you can try rafaelle, she has massive ones. Generally sits opposite the bar on the couches leading to the staircase. Big curvy ass, decent service.

[QUOTE=Dracarys;2056139]I think that's her. Her face was so cute! No wonder when I heard this name, I felt familiar. Anyone did threesome with Amalia and her sister? BTW, do you recommend anyone with big natural tits, I would like to try big tits girl next time I visit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dracarys;2056139]I think that's her. Her face was so cute! No wonder when I heard this name, I felt familiar. Anyone did threesome with Amalia and her sister? BTW, do you recommend anyone with big natural tits, I would like to try big tits girl next time I visit.[/QUOTE]Banging the two sisters together is a lot of fun. They both really know how to work together and really get into it. You shoukd try it.

Also doing the sisters individually is also good too. Amalia has pimples though and has more restrictions than Elif.

For a woman with big tits on a slim frame then try Brenda she has black hair and looks like a deer with your car headlights shimjng in her eyes. I think she walks around without glasses or contact lenses as she misses people as she walks past them as they try to get her attention.

Don't expect to much service when booking Brenda (Ex Lea).

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2056349]Don't expect to much service when booking Brenda (Ex Lea).

HB.[/QUOTE]I got a not so good vibe chatting with her and avoided. Always trust your instincts. Went with a brown haired Romanian, about 5' 8" in heels, small tits but big butt (I suppose that describes most of them). I am loath to post her name as I am not 100% sure of it, please correct me if I'm wrong I think it was Lucia. Worst session this trip. Got a bad vibe as soon as we entered the room, should have aborted then. After the session I asked her name (for confirmation) and she refused to tell me.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2056371]After the session I asked her name (for confirmation) and she refused to tell me.[/QUOTE]Haha bc she knew you were going write it on the forum.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2056376]Haha bc she knew you were going write it on the forum.[/QUOTE]At the time I thought precisely that.

I prepared myself for a few Sharks visit and the most important reason that I prefer FRA over NRW was Sharks. I understood that was a mistake and recently NRW is much more preferable over FRA. I arrived the place at about 6 p. M and stayed there up to 8:50 pm. The lineup was a total disappointment. Food was one of the worst I have ever had in my life. I got a piece of beef steak from outdoor grill and it was impossible to cut this with that stupid plastic knifes. Yes they got 70 euro entrance fee and they save a metal knifes and forks. Really ridicolous. After a few hours spend and waited for LU to improve I left the place for Oase and it was a very true decision. I was in both clubs with 30 minutes time difference and Oase deserves the extra 40 kms distance. The girls there are mosly overweight and especially for faces they are terrible. And hardly understand it must be impossible to work in Sharks withhout fake boobs. They must be asking that the girl she has silicons or not. And I guess they don't accept girls without silicons. LOL. Inside of the club was not that hot. But the club was dead. Only one girl approached me and I wasnt ok with her. I didn't see the favouireted nice girls that I wanted to get my previous visit that I couldn't find time to do so. There were many girls that I recognise from previous visits but these were the ones fat and ugly. I am really sad this club lost all its charm. There must be some managerial problems. Also it was a terrible idea to cancel kinos and make them rooms. I know the long room waiting times but kino is always a nice alternative. One of my favouite activities on my FKK travels was to get a girl so Jakuzi in Sharks. I never forget to do that. Only one good thing with the club that they put a curtain to the jacuzi on right side. I don't know what is the mentality behind it but it is nice when you are with a girl there. For my next visit I will give here another chance for a Friday or Sat but for a slow day I will never come here. I will make my way to Oase or Palace. Even world was better than here on a Tuesday.

Does anyone know if Amalia work on Thursday evening?

[QUOTE=Dracarys;2056410]Does anyone know if Amalia work on Thursday evening?[/QUOTE]You could call Mainhattan, World, Palace, Samya, GT, LR, Aca, PHG, Atlanta, to know if a girl is working on the day, but unfortunately not Sharks nor Oase. If you enjoy her, ask her for whatsapp or viber.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2056404]I prepared myself for a few Sharks visit and the most important reason that I prefer FRA over NRW was Sharks. I understood that was a mistake and recently NRW is much more preferable over FRA. I arrived the place at about 6 p. M and stayed there up to 8:50 pm. The lineup was a total disappointment. Food was one of the worst I have ever had in my life. I got a piece of beef steak from outdoor grill and it was impossible to cut this with that stupid plastic knifes. Yes they got 70 euro entrance fee and they save a metal knifes and forks. Really ridicolous. After a few hours spend and waited for LU to improve I left the place for Oase and it was a very true decision. I was in both clubs with 30 minutes time difference and Oase deserves the extra 40 kms distance. The girls there are mosly overweight and especially for faces they are terrible. And hardly understand it must be impossible to work in Sharks withhout fake boobs. They must be asking that the girl she has silicons or not. And I guess they don't accept girls without silicons. LOL. Inside of the club was not that hot. But the club was dead. Only one girl approached me and I wasnt ok with her. I didn't see the favouireted nice girls that I wanted to get my previous visit that I couldn't find time to do so. There were many girls that I recognise from previous visits but these were the ones fat and ugly. I am really sad this club lost all its charm. There must be some managerial problems. Also it was a terrible idea to cancel kinos and make them rooms. I know the long room waiting times but kino is always a nice alternative. One of my favouite activities on my FKK travels was to get a girl so Jakuzi in Sharks. I never forget to do that. Only one good thing with the club that they put a curtain to the jacuzi on right side. I don't know what is the mentality behind it but it is nice when you are with a girl there. For my next visit I will give here another chance for a Friday or Sat but for a slow day I will never come here. I will make my way to Oase or Palace. Even world was better than here on a Tuesday.[/QUOTE]You were there on a wrong day, Shark was never my favorite club, but due to business reasons I needed to stay close to Darmstadt for the last 2 months therefor it was more convenient to visit Shark on a regular basis. The LU is the best compare to any other club in Germany, with a lot of new girls every week. Yes Oase is also a great club just with a little bit a smaller LU but also a lot of young and sexy girls. Difficult to say one is better than the other, it is just a matter of taste and of day.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2056404] 1) I arrived the place at about 6 p. M and stayed there up to 8:50 pm.

2) I got a piece of beef steak from outdoor grill and it was impossible to cut this with that stupid plastic knifes.

3) Yes they got 70 euro entrance fee and they save a metal knifes and forks.

4.) Really ridicolous. And hardly understand it must be impossible to work in Sharks without fake boobs. They must be asking that the girl she has silicons or not. And I guess they don't accept girls without silicons. LOL.

5.) Also it was a terrible idea to cancel kinos and make them rooms.

6.) I know the long room waiting times but kino is always a nice alternative. One of my favouite activities on my FKK travels was to get a girl so Jakuzi in Sharks. I never forget to do that. Only one good thing with the club that they put a curtain to the jacuzi on right side. I don't know what is the mentality behind it but it is nice when you are with a girl there. [/QUOTE]1.) I know. We was worried sick where you were all day.

2.) Metal knife and fork you can get in the kitchen. For hamburger you can eat with your fingers like in McDonalds. The pork slice is succulent and the lamb cutlet is okay if its not cooked to a cinder by the cook man.

3.) Is the entry fee 70 euro now?

4.) Many girls at Sharks have the fake boobs. It is everywhere.

5.) With the Kino cancelled there is less places to sleep when you are tired from fucking. Only on the mezzanine floor but even there the girls harass your ass.

6.) The girls still go into the Jacuzzi with you if you request and especially when you pay for their time. I don't know why the Sharks management put the screen up by the right hand side Jacuzzi. It is a mystery for me and you cannot see out anymore. Maybe it is because people fuck in that Jacuzzi so its for privacy.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2056537]1.) I know. We was worried sick where you were all day.

2.) Metal knife and fork you can get in the kitchen. For hamburger you can eat with your fingers like in McDonalds. The pork slice is succulent and the lamb cutlet is okay if its not cooked to a cinder by the cook man.

3.) Is the entry fee 70 euro now?

4.) Many girls at Sharks have the fake boobs. It is everywhere.

5.) With the Kino cancelled there is less places to sleep when you are tired from fucking. Only on the mezzanine floor but even there the girls harass your ass.

6.) The girls still go into the Jacuzzi with you if you request and especially when you pay for their time. I don't know why the Sharks management put the screen up by the right hand side Jacuzzi. It is a mystery for me and you cannot see out anymore. Maybe it is because people fuck in that Jacuzzi so its for privacy.[/QUOTE]Sorry but I can't agree with you about point 4, had more than 20 visits in the last weeks and only few girls have silly, if you don't like silly girls I advise you to never go to Artemis. I am very careful about this point because I never go with a girl with silly.

Have a returned to Sharks after a month of absence and the club was packed. However today I really felt that there were more men than girls. I'm probably wrong but that's how I felt some times.

BBQ outside was great, but they need to organise it better to avoid long queues only on one side of the bar. Girls playing in the swimming pool and sunbathing was a really great view and Sharks garden must be one of the best around. There was the usual party atmosphere, which I enjoy but many known superstars were missing. Cosmina. Ro, Beatrice. Hun, Anja. Alb, Lara. De, Lena. De, Tessa. De, Scarlett. Ro, Varna. Greek, were all missing (or at least I could not see them).

Top three beauties in the club today (to my eyes, obviously) were Sandra. De, Mandy. De, Tia. De. Sandra and Mandy were constantly booked and when I say "constantly" I really mean it. As soon as they came down from a room they were immediately snapped by other guys and so on for at least 6-7 hours. No wonder they went home early in the evening. The only time I found Mandy available, I wasn't ready for a session, so I had to pass!

Tia. De was not doing sessions solo as she only wanted threesomes with her much less attractive friend (I can't even remember her name, but she was brunette, had way too large sillies, silicon lips and not an attractive face). The obvious results of this dumb strategy was that 9 out of 10 guys said no! I was tempted to agree and then once in the room put her friend "behind the lines" but, as much as I like Tia, it just felt wrong and so I declined like most of the other guys. Some guys however fell for it and they gave them both some business. Tia could have had over 10-15 sessions tonight easily as there were no better looking girls around. Too bad!

What I also noticed was the large amount of very large girls in the club. I'd say more than in the past and I still can't understand how they can afford being in the club without doing any room the whole time. Maybe they have subordinates that pay them. This is the only explanation I can come up with.

Anyway, I have only had two sessions:

Ida. De, brown hair with pony tail, very nice and friendly girl. Not long at Sharks and she does not bond with other german girls. Body a bit on the large / robust side but a beautiful face and eyes. I felt immediately at ease once in the room and we had a very great time. Standard service (30 min 50 E).

Francesca. Ro, Tall, blond, beautiful face girl. She does not bond with the rest of the Romanian crowd. In the room she was a bit nervous and cold and maybe this is due to the fact she's only been at Sharks a couple of months or so. I don't think she was in other clubs before, so she has that newbie attitude. Only CBJ was on the table and I was ok with it and I could enjoy it almost as it was BBJ. I was tempted to extend but she was still rather cold even at the end of the session, so I decided against it. A very great body though, so I would repeat. (30 min 50 E).

All in all an OK night and the wellness facilities are worth the entry price alone, but I'm tempted to explore other clubs as Sharks is declining and more action is needed to attract more beauties. Maybe they should start an online survey to see which of the past girls we miss the most and they try to get them back in the club with some financial rewards. Globe in Zurich seems to be the preferred destination for German girls now and apparently many go there at intervals of about 2-3 weeks before coming back to Germany. Not sure if this is true but that's what I hear. I'm not a big fan of Globe as I think it is too hot inside and there is no outside area. So it is just not worth the money for me.

Rock!

[QUOTE=RockyV;2056630]Francesca. Ro, Tall, blond, beautiful face girl. I don't think she was in other clubs before, so she has that newbie attitude.[/QUOTE]Francesca started at Sharks last year working behind the bar. Couple of months ago she began to work in front of the bar in a small club 30 km away from Darmstadt.

Business for her is much better at Sharks.

Rocky V, I am just checking that your visit dated Wednesday 5 June was actually Wednesday 5 July since 5 June was a Monday and the Sharks club would not be as jammed pack with Germans on a Monday compared to a cheaper priced entry Wednesday.

Good work with the report and banging some babes.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2056630]Have a returned to Sharks after a month of absence and the club was packed. However today I really felt that there were more men than girls. I'm probably wrong but that's how I felt some times.

BBQ outside was great, but they need to organise it better to avoid long queues only on one side of the bar. Girls playing in the swimming pool and sunbathing was a really great view and Sharks garden must be one of the best around. There was the usual party atmosphere, which I enjoy but many known superstars were missing. Cosmina. Ro, Beatrice. Hun, Anja. Alb, Lara. De, Lena. De, Tessa. De, Scarlett. Ro, Varna. Greek, were all missing (or at least I could not see them).

Top three beauties in the club today (to my eyes, obviously) were Sandra. De, Mandy. De, Tia. De. Sandra and Mandy were constantly booked and when I say "constantly" I really mean it. As soon as they came down from a room they were immediately snapped by other guys and so on for at least 6-7 hours. No wonder they went home early in the evening. The only time I found Mandy available, I wasn't ready for a session, so I had to pass!

Tia. De was not doing sessions solo as she only wanted threesomes with her much less attractive friend (I can't even remember her name, but she was brunette, had way too large sillies, silicon lips and not an attractive face). The obvious results of this dumb strategy was that 9 out of 10 guys said no! I was tempted to agree and then once in the room put her friend "behind the lines" but, as much as I like Tia, it just felt wrong and so I declined like most of the other guys. Some guys however fell for it and they gave them both some business. Tia could have had over 10-15 sessions tonight easily as there were no better looking girls around. Too bad![/QUOTE]Yes Mandy it always overbooked, she usually arrives at 11 AM, and it is no stop, too busy for me. The girls are paying around 100 euros for the entry, easy for them to get the money back even you think they do nothing, last Friday some girls were just talking together from 11 am to 6 PM and then they start to walk around and had session after session. Many German girls have a normal job so they do escort not sure they go to globe.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2056630]there is no outside area. [/QUOTE]There is an outside area at Globe, but it's not big and no pool.

But thanks for your Sharks report. Interesting that one of the girls only did CBJ, seams the new law really has arrived. Would she have offered BBBJ if you extended?

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2056771]Rocky V, I am just checking that your visit dated Wednesday 5 June was actually Wednesday 5 July since 5 June was a Monday and the Sharks club would not be as jammed pack with Germans on a Monday compared to a cheaper priced entry Wednesday.

Good work with the report and banging some babes.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I meant 5th July (I. E. Yesterday)!

[QUOTE=Nil69;2056788]There is an outside area at Globe, but it's not big and no pool.

But thanks for your Sharks report. Interesting that one of the girls only did CBJ, seams the new law really has arrived. Would she have offered BBBJ if you extended?[/QUOTE]Can fuck girls on Globe roof terrace, 3 places, shower. Close to the sky, not so far from heaven.

Until November, Globe had warm inside swimming pool. Stupid staff, now empty lounge.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2056739]Francesca started at Sharks last year working behind the bar. Couple of months ago she began to work in front of the bar in a small club 30 km away from Darmstadt.

Business for her is much better at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Was she blondie behind the bar?

[QUOTE=Nil69;2056788]There is an outside area at Globe, but it's not big and no pool.

But thanks for your Sharks report. Interesting that one of the girls only did CBJ, seams the new law really has arrived. Would she have offered BBBJ if you extended?[/QUOTE]Thanks Nil. No, it wasn't a matter of length of the session and she does not upsell in the room. She doesn't do BBBJ now, most probably due to the new law. However, it's difficult to explain, but it really felt great anyway as she has a great technique!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2056928]Was she blondie behind the bar?[/QUOTE]No, Francesca was having light brown hair that time.

I think you mean pretty Blondie, who used to work at the bar quite a long time. That was another girl.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2056966]No, Francesca was having light brown hair that time.

I think you mean pretty Blondie, who used to work at the bar quite a long time. That was another girl.[/QUOTE]Except Blondie and chestnut with blue eyes who moved to work on desk, don t remember top beauty behind the bar? Is she the one with very white skin and few tattoos?

Francesca was Megan when she started at Sharks on November 2015.

Well, I finally made it out to Sharks last week. First time in any FKK, and I must say it was a hell of a time. I arrived at just after 13:00, and stayed until almost midnight. Really enjoyed the overall vibe, the layout, and of course, the scenery. Upon entry, I asked for, and got, one of the blue "VIP" robes at no additional charge. Probably made very little difference in the overall experience, but I felt emboldened ever-so-slightly anyway.

If July 1 was truly the end of an era, I'm glad I got to see it at least once before the beautiful dream started to fade. Speaking of fading, it's been a week so everything's starting to get a little fuzzy when it comes to details. I apologize in advance.

My first session was with two lovely young ladies, and right away, I'm going to fudge the names: They sit, as a pair, on a single chair close to the main staircase. One of them has brown hair with blonde streaks in it in sort of a "Rachel from Friends" style cut, on the shorter side with nice natural tits (the name is Danila? Damina? Something like that. You vets can help me out I hope), and the other was younger thin, petite, and well tatted and pierced, and I believe her name was Floria (Again, a little help). They were both mine for a very solid half-hour, in one of the alleged VIP rooms downstairs (although I wasn't charged anything extra) Floria was slightly more enthusiastic and energetic, and in the end earned the extra 50 Euros by taking a CIM. Total cost 150, and I left satisfied.

I joined my friend out at the pool, and we lounged for a bit with our drinks and enjoyed the sun and the constant parade of ladies. I struck up a nice conversation with a friendly mustachioed German monger who was very good about pointing out the sisters Elif and Amalia to me, and letting me know that the famous Mandy was indeed on the premises, but so busy that I may not ultimately catch her out and about. I made a mental note.

I also made an observation while poolside: When a woman has a piercing that makes her vagina look like a zipper. It does not make me want to put my penis into it.

This was also when I struck up the first of many quick conversations with Julia, a persistent Romanian girl whose swagger intrigued me. I rebuffed her advances while I took a swim.

After heading to the bar, I struck up a conversation with Domino, a very pretty 21-year old girl with a low-key vibe and tiny little breasts. I was minding my own business, and she was letting me. Until we just kept making eye contact. I took the bait, and we went to one of the outdoor cabanas, because hey. For my first time, I wanted the full range of experiences! Domino gave a very sweet BBBJ, and really seemed to enjoy the fact that she was turning me on. When it came time to get down to business, she happily rode me, and flipped herself from position to position, kissing me deeply all the while. 30 minutes - 50 Euros. No upselling, either. Beautiful.

So far, none of the pitfalls I'd been told (by reading this forum) to avoid had really befallen me. I didn't really see a whole lot of women that weren't appealing (some more than others, and some absolute knockouts
, but they were all pretty hot to me), no Sharky behavior, no clock-watching tricks. Just natural, unforced meetings, decent conversations that ultimately led to sex, or didn't. All while enjoying a beautiful summer day, and a nice casual vibe. It really was like being at the world's best house party.

After sampling the barbecue. Hamburgers, brats, chicken, salad. Nothing at all to complain about there. And introducing myself to Elif and Amalia (they were eating lunch, or else I'd have asked them to go with me right then and there) so that they'd be on the lookout for me later, I headed inside.

And I saw her. The kissing mouth tattoo on her right butt cheek. The huge smile. Petite, blonde pretty, and looking right at me -- It was Mandy. Like a unicorn, she had emerged from legend, and was right before me.

And she was flanked by two old dudes. Shit.

I ordered a drink, and watched out of the corner of my eye. Suddenly, she broke away from the geezers, and moved a few feet away where she began a conversation with a pretty attractive blonde. My elder statesman friend that I had met a few hours prior saw me, and pointed, "There is Mandy for you!' I nodded, and thanked him. (If you're reading this, my mustachioed brother. Danke!) I was doing this.

I approached and interrupted the conversation as politely as I could. I introduced myself to Mandy, and asked if she was available. She looked around, and said, "I think maybe? Give me a second. " Then she walked back to the geezers for a minute, while I awaited the verdict.

Then two things happened simultaneously. First, my "good buddy" Julia from the pool walked over with a haughty look on her face and said, "You promised me we'd go to the room, and I went and showered and douched for you, and then you disappear."

The second thing that happened was that Mandy came striding up to me with a beaming smile on her face, and nodded that she was good to go.

I turned to Julia, "I'm sorry, I don't remember making that promise, but right now I'm going to go with Mandy so catch me later, bye!

And then, my friends. It was on.

I sat with Mandy on a couch for a moment while she caught her composure, and explained that she was on her way out the door to spend the next few days back home, and I would be her last session of the day. Thanking my lucky stars, I promised to make it a good one. A quick one, sure. Because she was on her way out the door. But a good one.

Let me tell you, friends, this Mandy hype is legit. She kissed me with full tongue, full throttle, and had absolute control of my libido for every moment in that bedroom. Her BBBJ was intense, with plenty of time devoted to licking the entire shaft, BLS to the extreme, she made every inch of me rock hard and soaking wet - And the the real fucking began.

Look, Mandy is a master. She's got skills. She's got enthusiasm. She didn't even mention money once. This is the kind of GFE that bards write epic poems about. And in the end, I had it for 50 euros. (Well, 100, because when the oral sex is THAT good, you'd be a fool not to finish with CIM) Unbelievable. Wherever you are, Mandy. Bless you. Thank you. Oh dear god. I'm shaking now just thinking about it.

Anyway, I kind of stumbled outside for more food, and another beer, and found my friend again. He was incredibly amused that I couldn't speak in complete sentences, and eventually gave up trying.

Then Julia found me. This time, when she brought up this alleged promise I'd made earlier to take her for a session. Well, like I said, I couldn't form complete sentences. What the hell. So it was that I found myself led back to one of the open-air tent things in the back of the yard for yet another session. I told Julia she's have to be gentle with me, and she was. Even her upselling attempts (for anal) were pretty low-key. I mumbled that I was all good, and enjoyed the solid BBBJ and took her doggystyle until I had sealed the deal. If anything, I'm a man of my word. 50 Euros, and a good time had by all.

As night fell, and I had taken some recoup time with a sauna and a shower, and some more food, my friend left to go back to the hotel, while I stayed behind. I was still hoping to cap the day off with the sisters fantasy. So I waited, and mingled. I was called over by the first two women of the day, who immediately started flirting with me and asking my name, where I was from. And I realized, "They don't remember that they both had sex with me a few hours ago!" Then I told them, and we all had a good laugh about it.

After seeing one of the sisters (honestly, I don't know which one) come downstairs for a drink, and then head back upstairs, I assumed that they were both in a super-long session, and I weighed my options: I could wait for the sisters to come out, I could go with this Romanian girl Aphrodite that kept hitting up every few minutes, or I could pick one final session in my own time.

I decided on the latter. I moved around, starting up a few conversations here and there, and finally met Isabel. A young girl with long brown hair, who was long and lean. Great legs, and had a sweet disposition. She led me upstairs and provided a nice session with plenty of kissing, and was all too eager to wrap those legs around me while I finished. Another "standard session," for only 50 euros, that was miles better than anything I'd get in the States, at 10 times the price.

As I paid Isabel, I was shocked to see that I still had money in the locker! And there were still hours left to go in the operating day! This place is magical!

However, every man has his limits, and I had certainly exceeded mine for the day. It was my first time at any FKK. And I certainly hope there is a return visit sometime soon. I'll be watching this forum to see how the new law affects things. In the meantime, thanks for reading, and thanks to everyone in the community for helping me go in prepared.

MCP.

[QUOTE=MrCrankyPants;2057066] I was called over by the first two women of the day, who immediately started flirting with me and asking my name, where I was from. And I realized, "They don't remember that they both had sex with me a few hours ago!" Then I told them, and we all had a good laugh about it..[/QUOTE]Mr CrankyPants,

Thank you for the great well written report. Glad you managed to bag Mandy as she is well known to be difficult to book.

Yes, the memories of many girls is short. They have been rejected before outright but they still come back asking you your name and where you are from again maybe one to several hours later not realizing that you said no to them before. In your case and in many others you have even fucked them as well and they do not remember that they sucked your dick and ask you again like they have never met you.

It really goes to show how mechanical some of the FKK working girls are.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2057062]Except Blondie and chestnut with blue eyes who moved to work on desk, don t remember top beauty behind the bar?
Is she the one with very white skin and few tattoos? Francesca was Megan when she started at Sharks on November 2015.[/QUOTE]Francesca was called Andrea, then she changed her name. As I remember she wasn't very long behind the bar at Sharks.

Very white skin? No. BTW: This Francesca has nothing to do with Megan.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2057189]Mr CrankyPants,

Thank you for the great well written report. Glad you managed to bag Mandy as she is well known to be difficult to book.

Yes, the memories of many girls is short. They have been rejected before outright but they still come back asking you your name and where you are from again maybe one to several hours later not realizing that you said no to them before. In your case and in many others you have even fucked them as well and they do not remember that they sucked your dick and ask you again like they have never met you.

It really goes to show how mechanical some of the FKK working girls are.[/QUOTE]After knowing these girls are elusive, I glad that my goddess Amalia still remembers me 3 days later. I was looking for her the whole time yesterday, it's a shame that she showed up when I was about to leave. Feel so regretful now. Now I'm leaving Germany regretfully.

Great report Mr Crankypants. Your multiple sessions in a visit is exactly how I like my own FKK experiences! I'll have to try and catch Mandy next time I'm at Sharks which should be soon.

[QUOTE=Dracarys;2057281]After knowing these girls are elusive, I glad that my goddess Amalia still remembers me 3 days later. I was looking for her the whole time yesterday, it's a shame that she showed up when I was about to leave. Feel so regretful now. Now I'm leaving Germany regretfully.[/QUOTE]Some WGs have Alzheimer memory coming to ask for room 5 times in a day, but some have really amazing memory. I had rooms with Liz. De only on July 2013 , she still remember about my life when I sometimes forgot, so I just have to ask her about when we eat together at GT, without going to room with her, but talking to her like to a woman, so she always ask if I want to eat with her.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2057191]Francesca was called Andrea, then she changed her name. As I remember she wasn't very long behind the bar at Sharks.

Very white skin? No. BTW: This Francesca has nothing to do with Megan.[/QUOTE]Because Megan started as Francesca at Sharks on November 2015. Now silver curly hair and tanned skin at Globe. Smiling welcome coming straight to me like at Sharks, still lovely, I m happy she feels good at Globe, not so difficult for good girls. Even Isabella or Aurelia or blond ex Sofia. Ro LR or ex Valentina GT, can resist. But I really enjoyed Megan friend, real natural beauty and sensitive Misha. Ro.

Never noticed Francesca / Andrea.

[QUOTE=Dracarys;2056410]Does anyone know if Amalia work on Thursday evening?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dracarys;2057281]I glad that my goddess Amalia still remembers me 3 days later. I was looking for her the whole time yesterday, it's a shame that she showed up when I was about to leave.[/QUOTE]Now we know Amalia worked on Thursday, 6 July 2017.

Have no regrets if you book to come back another time real soon.

Which one is a better option on Tuesday from 11:30 am to 2:30 pm? I have a flight at 4:20 pm from Frankfurt. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Nce123;2057714]Which one is a better option on Tuesday from 11:30 am to 2:30 pm? I have a flight at 4:20 pm from Frankfurt. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think by noon there will be 1 to 2 girls at Mainhattan and maybe 6-8 girls will be there by 2 pm. At Sharks you'll probably start with 6-8 girls by noon and up with over 20 by 1400. At Sharks it's fun to be there early and watch the girls who sleep there come down half awake in their sleeping clothes, hair up with eye crusties, LOL.

I confirm my previous post: From 3 ex Sharks girls, Romanians and German, no tax bill for 25 € paid every day, one thought she was registered when paying 25 to Sharks. Now she knows what to be registered, giving your address where Swiss Polizei can come to catch you. Fortunately she sleep in club, but not in work rooms.

25 for 100 girls is 900000 per year.

[QUOTE=Nce123;2057714]Which one is a better option on Tuesday from 11:30 am to 2:30 pm? I have a flight at 4:20 pm from Frankfurt. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Tuesday is dessous (lingerie) day at Sharks, so girls will not go around fully naked. If this is something you would be interested in, then I'd say Sharks. I personally enjoy lingerie days, for a change! However, 11:30-2:30 pm is very early in the day and you may not find many top girls. Mainhattan is farther from the airport, so it may be the less convenient option.

Have fun!

Rock.

[QUOTE=Nce123;2057714]Which one is a better option on Tuesday from 11:30 am to 2:30 pm? I have a flight at 4:20 pm from Frankfurt. Thanks.[/QUOTE]The decision may depend on where you are coming from to begin with. If you are coming up from Stuttgart then Sharks is better. If you are coming from the East then Mainhattan is better as its son the way West to the airport.

It is dessous tag on Tuesdays at Sharks so that may make it more favorable for your ilk.

[QUOTE=Nce123;2057714]Which one is a better option on Tuesday from 11:30 am to 2:30 pm? I have a flight at 4:20 pm from Frankfurt. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Dessoustag at Sharks if that makes any difference to you.

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2058092]Dessoustag at Sharks if that makes any difference to you.[/QUOTE]Historically I avoid visiting a club on their "Dessous Tag," which at Sharks is a Tuesday. However, despite this, two weeks ago I found myself entering Sharks on a Tuesday, partly because I had one of those 20 e discount vouchers valid on Mondays and Tuesdays at Sharks. A very funny thing occurred: I found the quality of the line-up on this Tuesday to be the best I'd encountered during the entire week at Sharks, even better than on the weekend. I had previously been to Sharks on both the prior Weds and Friday. In fact, on that prior Friday, I walked out or Sharks because of surprisingly uninspiring line-up that day and went to World instead. Believe it or not: I found a much more intriguing line-up (and a much better "party atmosphere") at World that Friday night than I did at Sharks.

So Tuesdays, despite the girls not being entirely naked, are not to be dismissed in terms of line-up quality. Indeed, I saw girls on that Tuesday, who I did not see working on other "more mainstream" days. Add to this, the more favourable general mongering conditions (lots of rooms available whenever you want, no sausage fest with too many men, locker room not crowded, etc), and Tuesdays at Sharks could be a very good choice.

However, I never entered the club before 16.00, so my comments above reflect the situation during evening and nights.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2058101]However, I never entered the club before 16.00, so my comments above reflect the situation during evening and nights.[/QUOTE]Yup, maybe not at all relevant for Nce123 since his visit window is between 11:30 am to 2:30 pm when the club like up is dire. At Mainhattan at least from the morning shift there is Donna who gives good service and is a pretty, slim brown haired girl.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2057524] I'll have to try and catch Mandy next time I'm at Sharks which should be soon.[/QUOTE]Mandy is away some days in July so if you know your dates then it may help.

Mandy works day shift and only some days in the week. It can all be a bit random but Saturdays is not one of her days.

I'm going to be a real pain in the ass but still no Eva? If I remember well, I met Mandy one Sunday and one Tuesday but it was in November.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2058134]I'm going to be a real pain in the ass but still no Eva? If I remember well, I met Mandy one Sunday and one Tuesday but it was in November.[/QUOTE]Eva has no plan to come back to this work while her happiness last in her city.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2058134]I'm going to be a real pain in the ass but still no Eva? If I remember well, I met Mandy one Sunday and one Tuesday but it was in November.[/QUOTE]Mandy is one of the busiest girl at Shark, she usually starts the morning shift at 11, but will leave early. Also she is not working every day, she doesn't need, her income must be very high. If you want to get news about Eva, try to find one of her friend she will update you or may be the reception sometime they also have reliable info.

Thank you. Good for her. So I probably won't come back to Sharks.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2058133]Mandy is away some days in July so if you know your dates then it may help.

Mandy works day shift and only some days in the week. It can all be a bit random but Saturdays is not one of her days.[/QUOTE]Good luck hitting Mandy. I've missed out on her every visit so far this year (3 trips). She can only be considered a bonus. And even if she is around, she'll be hard to catch.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2058385]Good luck hitting Mandy. I've missed out on her every visit so far this year (3 trips). She can only be considered a bonus. And even if she is around, she'll be hard to catch.[/QUOTE]Indeed.

In March, I had taken Mandy as the first girl of my trip on a early a Tuesday afternoon. Fantastic session as always.

Then, I saw her briefly on the next day evening. And I didn't even have a real excuse to not take her, as I was not coming out of a session. She smiled, and came over to chat. I made up some BS excuse and passed. Why? I was angling to get a session with Janine, but as I was about to swoop in, her body guards returned, and by then Mandy disappeared.

In the karma catalog of FKK, this must count as unforgivable. Some FKK gods must have a put a curse on me, and I never saw her again in that trip or next trip in June. Not just her but also Sandra was snatched away from me. Must be deserved comeuppance.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2058385]Good luck hitting Mandy. I've missed out on her every visit so far this year (3 trips). She can only be considered a bonus. And even if she is around, she'll be hard to catch.[/QUOTE]Not so difficult to get Mandy on early afternoon when she works, same for Sandra. When girls know you, they come to you, no need to run after.

On this Friday, 8 months after, even we had many messages, Megan came straight to me like did Kate / Katalina, no need to run after her at Globe. Later, she understood my eyes for her friend, really pretty blond Misha.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2058385]Good luck hitting Mandy. I've missed out on her every visit so far this year (3 trips). She can only be considered a bonus. And even if she is around, she'll be hard to catch.[/QUOTE]I don't have any particular problem booking Mandy. You just need to know her schedule when she is on holiday and when she works and get your booking in for the days she is working before you departs for the day.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2058452]I don't have any particular problem booking Mandy. You just need to know her schedule when she is on holiday and when she works and get your booking in for the days she is working before you departs for the day.[/QUOTE]Yes, but she seems to switch up her schedule a bit. So it seems a bit random.

[QUOTE=MrCrankyPants;2057066]And I saw her. The kissing mouth tattoo on her right butt cheek. The huge smile. Petite, blonde pretty, and looking right at me -- It was Mandy. Like a unicorn, she had emerged from legend, and was right before me.

...
MCP.[/QUOTE]Wow, thank you for the great report, Mr CrankyPants. After years of visiting Sharks I have no idea who Mandy is. Same for Sandra. I finally see the description of her and don't think I have ever seen someone that fits this description. Will definitely try to catch her when I visit next time.

Also, some of you asked about Elif and Amalia duo. I can confirm that they were excellent together. I had a great session with Amalia previously so, I figured I gave the duo a shot as Amalia would put in a good word for her sister. Though I am not a type of threesome person but Elif was also excellent. Actually, she was driving the session and secretly telling her sister what to do in Romanian and hand gestures. Actually, after the session it made me like Elif more than Amalia now (eventhough I think Amalia is better looking). I am sure if you like a threesome and find them attractive you cannot go wrong.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2058370]Thank you. Good for her. So I probably won't come back to Sharks.[/QUOTE]You could try to experience upselling 100 for GFE 30 mn with baby kiss and CBJ.

Even some girls are afraid about new law and what they were explained, some German girls think they can be money prosecuted for BBBJ, so imagine for Romanians and Hungarians not reading German, but no end of the world in NRW and not the faintest upselling experienced, only smiles and still nice and willing to please behavior, asking to come again.

At club number 1 in NRW, information point 32 on rooms doors, girls are given 5 condoms for free per day, but staff say to girls: You are independent, manage your job. More difficult at LR for mostly Romanian girls for new clients.

Went to Sharks last Thursday. I rent a car from FRA airport and planned to arrive by 6 pm. The car broke down at the junction of 5 and 42. The water pump was busted and coolant was all gone with the engine smoking. I end up waiting 3 hours on the highway for the tow truck. Good news out of the bad is that when the tow truck dropped me to the closest Sixt car rental store, the store turned out to be almost next door to Sharks, so I didn't waste much time detour. Plus Sixt gave me a very fancy BMV sport car as the replacement. Pity I didn't pick up any girl with it.

Finally I made it to the club around 9:30 pm and caught the final minutes of the outdoor BBQ. The huge interior area is very fancy. Because it was already dark so I didn't get much chance to admire the outside area. LU was good with a variety of choices, and I had 3 sessions. The bartenders are very rude though.

[QUOTE=Kdnyc25;2058689]Went to Sharks last Thursday. I rent a car from FRA airport and planned to arrive by 6 pm. The car broke down at the junction of 5 and 42. The water pump was busted and coolant was all gone with the engine smoking. I end up waiting 3 hours on the highway for the tow truck. Good news out of the bad is that when the tow truck dropped me to the closest Sixt car rental store, the store turned out to be almost next door to Sharks, so I didn't waste much time detour. Plus Sixt gave me a very fancy BMV sport car as the replacement. Pity I didn't pick up any girl with it.

Finally I made it to the club around 9:30 pm and caught the final minutes of the outdoor BBQ. The huge interior area is very fancy. Because it was already dark so I didn't get much chance to admire the outside area. LU was good with a variety of choices, and I had 3 sessions. The bartenders are very rude though.[/QUOTE]Not all the bartenders are rude. I have observed that the uglier ones are rude while the better looking ones are more friendly. Having visited Sharks over 20 times during the past few weeks I have observed one being a little more friendly towards me, initiating conversation etc. I suppose that's reserved for regular customers.

Is it wrong that I find Jenny, the bartender, to be good looking? LOL.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2058470]Wow, thank you for the great report, Mr CrankyPants. After years of visiting Sharks I have no idea who Mandy is. Same for Sandra. I finally see the description of her and don't think I have ever seen someone that fits this description. Will definitely try to catch her when I visit next time.

Also, some of you asked about Elif and Amalia duo. I can confirm that they were excellent together. I had a great session with Amalia previously so, I figured I gave the duo a shot as Amalia would put in a good word for her sister. Though I am not a type of threesome person but Elif was also excellent. Actually, she was driving the session and secretly telling her sister what to do in Romanian and hand gestures. Actually, after the session it made me like Elif more than Amalia now (eventhough I think Amalia is better looking). I am sure if you like a threesome and find them attractive you cannot go wrong.[/QUOTE]Sorry but the description is quite okay, German bloodline with be cups, smiling.

I think the bartender at the barbecue area is friendly tho. I went there to chill after every session and she remembered what I wanted to drink.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2058773]Is it wrong that I find Jenny, the bartender, to be good looking? LOL.[/QUOTE]Actually, there are moments where she is the most attractive girl in the club. By far.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2058773]Is it wrong that I find Jenny, the bartender, to be good looking? LOL.[/QUOTE]Although I haven't yet found a sharks bartender to tickle my amygdala insofar, some certain other bartenders definitely have. Like at Oceans, Palace, gt and Artemis x 2 in the past. I think after seeing so many nude girls around you, there is perhaps something very hot and attractive with girls wearing tights pants and uniforms as a change of pace. Perhaps giving them that little extra.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2058773]Is it wrong that I find Jenny, the bartender, to be good looking? LOL.[/QUOTE]This is common at strip clubs, too. Guys always find the waitresses or female bartenders more exciting than the strippers.

Just want to know if girls in Shark only provide CBJ? Also is anyone still see Lili working there?

Thanks.

At least 2 of the girls working behind the bar during my last trip are former WLs. Don't recall names, but the girl with short cropped blonde hair and the brunette with glasses and a slight stain on her teeth.

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2058910]...the brunette with glasses and a slight stain on her teeth.[/QUOTE]One with glasses may be ex-Moira.

[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2058892]Just want to know if girls in Shark only provide CBJ? Also is anyone still see Lili working there?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Every girl I sessioned gave me a BBBJ. They seem to ignore the new law.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2058929]One with glasses may be ex-Moira.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree the slim dark haired bartender with glasses is Moira.

[QUOTE=Dracarys;2058789]I think the bartender at the barbecue area is friendly tho. I went there to chill after every session and she remembered what I wanted to drink.[/QUOTE]Dracarys, do you mean the petite blonde blue eyed bartender which from my experience usually works the outside bar wherw the grill is. Then yes, she is cute and one of the friendlier bartenders at Sharks.

[QUOTE=KCQuestor;2058887]This is common at strip clubs, too. Guys always find the waitresses or female bartenders more exciting than the strippers.[/QUOTE]I think it would take quite a girl to beat the stunner behind the bar at Sunshine in Munich She is ex WG from a very high end club in the city and gave up 3 years ago when she met her boyfriend (who she still dates). I spent an hour trying to tempt her out of retirement. Absolutely stunning face and body.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2058987]I think it would take quite a girl to beat the stunner behind the bar at Sunshine in Munich She is ex WG from a very high end club in the city and gave up 3 years ago when she met her boyfriend (who she still dates). I spent an hour trying to tempt her out of retirement. Absolutely stunning face and body.[/QUOTE]She prolly wud temp come out of retirement if you bid 1000 e 1 HR 😂.

[QUOTE=KCQuestor;2058887]This is common at strip clubs, too. Guys always find the waitresses or female bartenders more exciting than the strippers.[/QUOTE]Very true. I found the front desk girl at Mainhattan very attractive too. Maybe because they are wearing clothes. I actually would like to see one day not a nude club, but a fantasy outfit club where girls wear various outfits such as business suits and dresses.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2058982]Yes, I agree the slim dark haired bartender with glasses is Moira.[/QUOTE]That sounds familiar. I only sessioned with her once about a year ago and had a very nice time with her, but rarely if ever saw her again. She remembered me and we chatted on my last trip there last month. She's a nice girl and was clearly motivated to make her new job outside of being a WL successful. She was working hard both behind the bar and out bussing tables.

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2059262]That sounds familiar. I only sessioned with her once about a year ago and had a very nice time with her, but rarely if ever saw her again. She remembered me and we chatted on my last trip there last month. She's a nice girl and was clearly motivated to make her new job outside of being a WL successful. She was working hard both behind the bar and out bussing tables.[/QUOTE]Yes, not sexy look enough for my tastes, too dark, not shining face enough, but Moira was really a nice girl for our beginning of 2015 room. Have just to be happy for her new life.

For same, I was happy when Megan said with her Globe business, she can be more often with her family and could finish faster this job.

I m always happy when girls retire from this bad business, and even I think I was missing Kate on last Friday at Globe, she was Globe for me, even I really enjoyed Misha beauty and freshness, even Isabella, even Megan now, but as I said to Kate on our last time: I wish You stay at home and never meet You again, and she answered: You really want this?

Better for girls to leave this bad job, always new girls appealed by taste of blood for money.

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2059262]That sounds familiar. I only sessioned with her once about a year ago and had a very nice time with her, but rarely if ever saw her again. She remembered me and we chatted on my last trip there last month. She's a nice girl and was clearly motivated to make her new job outside of being a WL successful. She was working hard both behind the bar and out bussing tables.[/QUOTE]Moira still looks good. I wonder why she moved to her current role -- I would have imagined a popular girl like her could make more sitting in front of the bar and not standing behind. Is her plan to induce $1000 bids from guests because she is now out of reach, LOL!?

Wish her good luck in her new job though.

[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2058892]Just want to know if girls in Shark only provide CBJ? Also is anyone still see Lili working there?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you mean Lilia then she has been working.

Mongers will have to accept the fact that you can no longer get BBBJ at FKKs or generally from working girls in Germany. It is better to stay and session in the United States where at least it is the norm.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2059380]Mongers will have to accept the fact that you can no longer get BBBJ at FKKs or generally from working girls in Germany. It is better to stay and session in the United States where at least it is the norm.[/QUOTE]That's not true. You can still get BBBJ from a lot of girls. But it's no longer guaranteed and sometimes you have to pay extra.

Buy American.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2059380]Mongers will have to accept the fact that you can no longer get BBBJ at FKKs or generally from working girls in Germany. It is better to stay and session in the United States where at least it is the norm.[/QUOTE]

Wait why is it bad? The girls are actually helping guys who are lonely so they are benefiting the world and reducing negative vibes.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2059278]Yes, not sexy look enough for my tastes, too dark, not shining face enough, but Moira was really a nice girl for our beginning of 2015 room. Have just to be happy for her new life.

For same, I was happy when Megan said with her Globe business, she can be more often with her family and could finish faster this job.

I m always happy when girls retire from this bad business, and even I think I was missing Kate on last Friday at Globe, she was Globe for me, even I really enjoyed Misha beauty and freshness, even Isabella, even Megan now, but as I said to Kate on our last time: I wish You stay at home and never meet You again, and she answered: You really want this?

Better for girls to leave this bad job, always new girls appealed by taste of blood for money.[/QUOTE]

Don't search too much for logic in sirioja's posts. He spends half of the year in Germany fucking working girls and then he says that it's a terrible job and they should stop as soon as possible.