Medellin Reports

Casa run the other day, Latinas has a nice lineup right now with a couple cute flacas. Paris and Andromeda were similar, small runs of 6-10 girls but some decent talent. You have to hit these places while the lineups are decent. Aiffe is still pretty ho-hum, New Life has some winners but they get run through all day. Loads of foot traffic and it seems to mostly be for a couple of them. On one hand this casa run was refreshing because there was some decent talent and places I hadn't been to in some time. On the other, I'm always a little disappointed with the atmosphere and hygiene in these places. I will probably take this run again to get a couple more numbers of girls that piqued my interest to see them outside the scene. I might venture over to Blue Room or one of those places if I have time. I'll be here a while longer but between regulars and social stuff it's hard to really hit new places regularly.

Made this run with another member here, very chill guy, seems to have his shit together but not to the point where he's not having plenty of fun.

I know the food stuff belongs under dining but it was asked (and followed up on) here. If the mods could move the whole discussion, that would be ideal I suppose.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1535017]Casa run the other day, Latinas has a nice lineup right now with a couple cute flacas. Paris and Andromeda were similar, small runs of 6-10 girls but some decent talent. You have to hit these places while the lineups are decent. Aiffe is still pretty ho-hum, New Life has some winners but they get run through all day. Loads of foot traffic and it seems to mostly be for a couple of them. On one hand this casa run was refreshing because there was some decent talent and places I hadn't been to in some time. On the other, I'm always a little disappointed with the atmosphere and hygiene in these places. I will probably take this run again to get a couple more numbers of girls that piqued my interest to see them outside the scene. I might venture over to Blue Room or one of those places if I have time. I'll be here a while longer but between regulars and social stuff it's hard to really hit new places regularly.

Made this run with another member here, very chill guy, seems to have his shit together but not to the point where he's not having plenty of fun.

I know the food stuff belongs under dining but it was asked (and followed up on) here. If the mods could move the whole discussion, that would be ideal I suppose.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the quick TR! I wasn't calling anybody out especially you Wilt. No beef homie! Hahaha! Keep thing tight and we'll all roll smoother!

Tonight was awesome. Also. Another teaser. Pulled the legendary and elusive REGULAR girl off the Metro a few days back. That went very well! So just anohter teaser. Cooperation and the TR flow smoother. Keep up with the BS and what not. TRs get lost in the wash.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1535017]Casa run the other day, Latinas has a nice lineup right now with a couple cute flacas. Paris and Andromeda were similar, small runs of 6-10 girls but some decent talent. You have to hit these places while the lineups are decent. Aiffe is still pretty ho-hum, New Life has some winners but they get run through all day. Loads of foot traffic and it seems to mostly be for a couple of them. On one hand this casa run was refreshing because there was some decent talent and places I hadn't been to in some time. On the other, I'm always a little disappointed with the atmosphere and hygiene in these places. I will probably take this run again to get a couple more numbers of girls that piqued my interest to see them outside the scene. I might venture over to Blue Room or one of those places if I have time. I'll be here a while longer but between regulars and social stuff it's hard to really hit new places regularly.

Made this run with another member here, very chill guy, seems to have his shit together but not to the point where he's not having plenty of fun.

I know the food stuff belongs under dining but it was asked (and followed up on) here. If the mods could move the whole discussion, that would be ideal I suppose.[/QUOTE]I challenge that this forum is for sex in Medellin only. Certainly that's the primary function, but the auxillary information about places to stay as well as what to eat and what not to eat is all part of the deal. No, I don't want this to turn into the Food Network, but I appreciate the additional information in one place, rather than trying to glean little bits and pieces from all over. For those of you who support more relaxed parameters of discussion, thank you. For those purists who don't eat and sleep on park benches, I'm in awe.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1535039]Tonight was awesome. Also. Another teaser. Pulled the legendary and elusive REGULAR girl off the Metro a few days back.[/QUOTE]What is Metro precisely? Do you mean a disco or the street?

The public transportation train that runs from one end of the city to the other. It's a super model freak show.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1535205]What is Metro precisely? Do you mean a disco or the street?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1535205]What is Metro precisely? Do you mean a disco or the street?[/QUOTE]I am guessing he means off the actual Metro, the city train system.

It is a great place to flirt and hone your language skills.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1535179]I challenge that this forum is for sex in Medellin only. Certainly that's the primary function, but the auxillary information about places to stay as well as what to eat and what not to eat is all part of the deal. No, I don't want this to turn into the Food Network, but I appreciate the additional information in one place, rather than trying to glean little bits and pieces from all over. For those of you who support more relaxed parameters of discussion, thank you. For those purists who don't eat and sleep on park benches, I'm in awe.[/QUOTE]I'm glad to see I am not the only one who appreciates discussion with "more relaxed discussion" from time to time!

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1535017]I know the food stuff belongs under dining but it was asked (and followed up on) here. If the mods could move the whole discussion, that would be ideal I suppose.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about it. It all pertains to Medellin.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1535017]On one hand this casa run was refreshing because there was some decent talent and places I hadn't been to in some time. On the other, I'm always a little disappointed with the atmosphere and hygiene in these places. I will probably take this run again to get a couple more numbers of girls that piqued my interest to see them outside the scene.[/QUOTE]I knew a chica that worked as a "masajista" during the day. One time (the only time I ever called her over) she came over smelling like "budussy" (butt and pussy). Kinda turned me off to wanting to meet chicas who work in Casas outside of them. I guess it may be different if you can get them to bypass work for a day to come and hang with you or something.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1535017]Casa run the other day, Latinas has a nice lineup right now with a couple cute flacas. Paris and Andromeda were similar, small runs of 6-10 girls but some decent talent. You have to hit these places while the lineups are decent. Aiffe is still pretty ho-hum, New Life has some winners but they get run through all day. Loads of foot traffic and it seems to mostly be for a couple of them. On one hand this casa run was refreshing because there was some decent talent and places I hadn't been to in some time. On the other, I'm always a little disappointed with the atmosphere and hygiene in these places. I will probably take this run again to get a couple more numbers of girls that piqued my interest to see them outside the scene. I might venture over to Blue Room or one of those places if I have time. I'll be here a while longer but between regulars and social stuff it's hard to really hit new places regularly.

Made this run with another member here, very chill guy, seems to have his shit together but not to the point where he's not having plenty of fun.

I know the food stuff belongs under dining but it was asked (and followed up on) here. If the mods could move the whole discussion, that would be ideal I suppose.[/QUOTE]Wilt are you still in mde. I am here now!

Drinking too much with some old acquientances. Mayo sucks now. An occasional interesting one. Weak. Got to start casa runs soon. Centro had 3 hotties but that is it. One was too wasted for my taste. Maracaibos talent last night way better than Barra Ejecutiva.

Oh well. Will look again today.

Cheers.

CC

i have set up a couple cute girls for tonight at my apartment my friend can't make it. is any in the city want to hang out? i think i can handle both of them but a big problem is that they don't do three somes, and leave one girl waiting for turn is not that cool. girls are cute and young, send me pm for more details and picks. the action is at 8:00 pm so hurry guys =) if you can send your phone that would really speed up the communication.

pd: those friking new pop up banners in the page are so annoying

If anyone knows anyone that might fit the bill, please PM and let me know. And yes, it HAS to be a women.

Attached is a copy of the Chica Recruitment Flyer that we have been handing out in select areas. We are already inundated with girls, and desperately need someone to manage them. We are also giving free pole dancing classes to qualified girls, and are hoping for a few really talented ones that we can train to higher levels of creative and exotic type dancing.

We are still working hard for the opening of the full service public club. Expect sometime end of March.

[QUOTE=Av8r; 1535433]If anyone knows anyone that might fit the bill, please PM and let me know. And yes, it HAS to be a women.

Attached is a copy of the Chica Recruitment Flyer that we have been handing out in select areas. We are already inundated with girls, and desperately need someone to manage them. We are also giving free pole dancing classes to qualified girls, and are hoping for a few really talented ones that we can train to higher levels of creative and exotic type dancing.

We are still working hard for the opening of the full service public club. Expect sometime end of March.[/QUOTE]I was going to stop by last night and the taxistas had not ideal where it was.

What are days and times of operation_?

Ahhh...never mind i google it...sorry...

will stop by sometime soon...cheers!

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1535179]I challenge that this forum is for sex in Medellin only. Certainly that's the primary function, but the auxillary information about places to stay as well as what to eat and what not to eat is all part of the deal. No, I don't want this to turn into the Food Network, but I appreciate the additional information in one place, rather than trying to glean little bits and pieces from all over. For those of you who support more relaxed parameters of discussion, thank you. For those purists who don't eat and sleep on park benches, I'm in awe.[/QUOTE]Yes, this forum is for Medellín, but there are threads for food, hotels, wing requests, etc. For vets, a free style forum might be ok, but it makes it extremely difficult for newbies to find information and then they get flamed for it wanting to wade through the chit chat. This isn't isolated to this forum. Maybe the mods can me more proactive in moving posts to the right location.

Case in point. I was looking for information about Thailand. I had to go back 10-15 pages of chitchat to finally get to a report. In fact, this discussion should probably go in the general section. If you want to see more mish mash of posts, maybe this forum needs a "new posts" function.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1535254]I am guessing he means off the actual Metro, the city train system.

It is a great place to flirt and hone your language skills.[/QUOTE]Ok, now I understand but in which area there are so many beautiful girls? I was in Medellin some years ago and I took the train from Mayorista to the center of Medellin. It was in day time but I have not seen any girl.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1535265]Don't worry about it. It all pertains to Medellin.[/QUOTE]Cool, because I want to revive it. Man, I know that some hardliner is going to skewer me on this one, but I have to ask!

I LOVE Colombian sancocho. Where is the best place that in Poblado, I. E, close to the Mansion?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1535832]Cool, because I want to revive it. Man, I know that some hardliner is going to skewer me on this one, but I have to ask!

I LOVE Colombian sancocho. Where is the best place that in Poblado, I. E, close to the Mansion?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Maybe you might get more of a response in the Medellin Food topic?

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1535742]Yes, this forum is for Medellín, but there are threads for food, hotels, wing requests, etc. For vets, a free style forum might be ok, but it makes it extremely difficult for newbies to find information and then they get flamed for it wanting to wade through the chit chat. This isn't isolated to this forum. Maybe the mods can me more proactive in moving posts to the right location.[/QUOTE]I'm not completely understanding this post. You say that it is extremely difficult for newbies to find information without having to wade through "chit chat", but if they are looking for:

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1535742]threads for food, hotels, wing requests, etc.[/QUOTE]

[b][i]Then why are they not posting those questions in those particular threads / forums you mentioned? [/i][/b]

This "chit chat" is what people are coming to the Medellin Reports to read about, as it has everything that has to do with anything pertaining to Medellin (reports, philosophies, cultural topics, etc.).

Perfect example, why the hell would we open a new thread just to talk about the Metro in Medellin?:

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1535254]I am guessing he means off the actual Metro, the city train system.

It is a great place to flirt and hone your language skills.[/QUOTE]

This would not go in the "General Info" thread because that forum is "Colombia specific" (hence the term "General"), whereas this thread is "Medellin specific".

I think it is the newbie who is not utilizing the thread correctly.

Want to know about The Mansion? There is a thread for that (seriously, it's under the User Threads as [b]"Casa Blanca Medellin"[/b])

Need a Wingman? [b]Travel Announcements[/b] thread, no?

Need a [b]Medellin hotel or apartment[/b]? Well I'll be damn, there's a thread for that as well!

[b]Using a cell phone in Colombia? [/b] Holy shit Batman!!

Do you see where I am going with this? So if a newbie comes here asking about such things, how are we in the wrong for telling them to RTFF?

Or maybe one of us vets need to take it upon ourselves to put together a "How to RTFF" PDF guide??

You can check my past posts: I've been pretty consistent with answering questions newbies have posted in this forum, regardless if they do no ask about the Mansion in the Casa Blanca Medellin thread, or food questions in the Colombian Food thread (sorry Manny51, I have no idea about Colombian Sancocho, but Vegas Jeff posted a response to your question in the Colombian Food thread). If I don't have the answer then I definitely direct them to where they can find it.

[QUOTE=Hioctane; 1535742]Yes, this forum is for Medellíand, but there are threads for food, hotels, wing requests, etc. For vets, a free style forum might be ok, but it makes it extremely difficult for newbies to find information and then they get flamed for it wanting to wade through the chit chat. This isn't isolated to this forum. Maybe the mods can me more proactive in moving posts to the right location.

Case in point. I was looking for information about Thailand. I had to go back 10-15 pages of chitchat to finally get to a report. In fact, this discussion should probably go in the general section. If you want to see more mish mash of posts, maybe this forum needs a "new posts" function.[/QUOTE]That's just the nature of the beast. Welcome to the internet. This your first time online?

Many good points on forum structure and layout. But what many guys don't realize things are the way they are for a reason. Many times they evolved this way via trial and error.

I too thought about creating a superior way to reference information, and tried it out with my site. Creating separate forums for every possible topic and sub topic. What followed were a lot of empty forums with little activity. Even with ISG's six figure membership, critical mass in any forum is necessary to keep the attention of the participants. I have the luxury of a boutique membership where I can adventure into new experimental referencing strategies without the chaos it would cause on a board this size if it turns out to be a bad idea. The result being a mix of both better and worse.

In English, I'm saying things are set up the way they are for a reason. Many times because other ways of doing things didn't work very well. You'll never make everyone happy all the time. In the end, we're all trying to find a way to deliver the information, entertainment, and sense of community in the most efficient way possible.

As they say, a spoon full of sugar.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1535909]Want to know about The Mansion? There is a thread for that (seriously, it's under the User Threads as [b]"Casa Blanca Medellin"[/b])

Need a Wingman? [b]Travel Announcements[/b] Thread, no?[/QUOTE]Oops that was me hahaha. Sorry guys, won't happen again (but man was so much fun that night) , Travel announcements is not a place to ask for a last minute wingman. I think general info would be the proper posting I was in a hurry. Anyways sorry I haven't report and collaborate in a more productive way, unfortunately the girls I have seen so far don't share their info openly, and I have to respect that. As soon I have some public information to share I will you guys know. Good luck to all.

[QUOTE=Dealdo;1536211]Oops that was me hahaha. Sorry guys, won't happen again (but man was so much fun that night) , Travel announcements is not a place to ask for a last minute wingman. I think general info would be the proper posting I was in a hurry.[/QUOTE]No need to apologize amigo. Honestly if you had posted it anywhere but in this thread it probably would have went unnoticed.

As I've stated before I do not have a problem with any and all things related to Medellin being posted here. It is the purists doing all the kicking and screaming.

Nice lineup right now at Club Paris. Out of five or maybe six total girls, I thought three were doable and then some. Luisa, a thin raven haired girl who might qualify as a spinner was intriguing. Paola had a girl next type vibe, pretty face with a nice smile. I have heard good things about her and almost went with her. Instead it was Vanessa, a Calena with an incredible, soft set of see cups and a friendly attitude. She was a bit nervous it being the first time we had met, but once she relaxed it was a pleasant session. Deep throat, BBBJ, whatever positions you like but definitely seems averse to anal.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1535763]Ok, now I understand but in which area there are so many beautiful girls? I was in Medellin some years ago and I took the train from Mayorista to the center of Medellin. It was in day time but I have not seen any girl.[/QUOTE]You don't see any girls at all? Just guys everywhere? That is hard to believe!

What are you looking for? A regular girl or a working girl? This is not a small town like Sosua where every girl you see is a working girl. It's like any other big city. If you want to try to find beautiful regular girls, go to the mall or to the discos at night.

[quote=hioctane; 1536257]you don't see any girls at all? just guys everywhere? that is hard to believe!

what are you looking for? a regular girl or a working girl? this is not a small town like sosua where every girl you see is a working girl. it's like any other big city. if you want to try to find beautiful regular girls, go to the mall or to the discos at night.[/quote]you have misunderstood me. what i mean is. how can you stop a girl who is taking the train or is getting off from the train? do you sell figurines and suggest her a purchase? i'd to know really how you catch your prey.

Last time I was down in Medellin I stayed at the Mansion, went to Fase dos and made casa runs. Arriving tonight for a 7 day stay. Mansion said they were booked so I got a hotel for the entire stay. I am looking for UTR girls on this trip. Part time university girls, models. I am only interested in 9s and 10s (Kate upton my idea of a 10). I would appreciate any referrals, Facebook connections etc. I will treat them extremely well and will keep their info private. I would appreciate any referrals.

Jebapaf

[quote=foxeshunter;1536549]you have misunderstood me. what i mean is. how can you stop a girl who is taking the train or is getting off from the train? do you sell figurines and suggest her a purchase? i'd to know really how you catch your prey.[/quote]it looks like years of p4p practice made you forget how to deal with regular girls for regular relations in a regular context.

come on, don't you know how to approach a girl? how would you do in your hometown? certainly in dallas (this is just an example) you would not approach a girl in a mall waving a big pack of notes in your right hand and pulling her with the left.

your only weapon is your charme. if you have it, ok. if you don't, your only option is a casa.

medellin is a normal city, populated by lots of hard honest workers and educated people. warning: upper class people can be extremely sophisticated. if your approach is wrong, they will consider you as you would consider an homeless who approaches you insistently beggin for money in usa.

good hunt.

[QUOTE=Black Page;1536654]It looks like years of P4P practice made you forget how to deal with regular girls for regular relations in a regular context.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but you don't understand my bad English and now I expalin better: why at Metro and not at bar, restaurants, discos, parks, ets etc. Do you think Metro is better that all other options? It is very singular.

Hey fellows,

Moving to an apt in poblado today. Been doing a bit of centro and mayo chics and some cultural. What little there is. Stuff and shopping.

If anyone is around let's meet for a drink or some casa runs.

I found were liquid lounge is but is still unclear to me when the open hours are. Is right around where fase II is.

Anyways. Let me know if anyone wants to meet.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=Concarne; 1536700]Hey fellows,

Moving to an apt in poblado today. Been doing a bit of centro and mayo chics and some cultural. What little there is. Stuff and shopping.

If anyone is around let's meet for a drink or some casa runs.

I found were liquid lounge is but is still unclear to me when the open hours are. Is right around where fase II is.

Anyways. Let me know if anyone wants to meet.

Cheers, [/QUOTE][url]Https://www.facebook.com/liquidloungemedellin[/url]

Hi all,

I have heard that in Medellin must be a Chica Hotel. Like a Hotel with Chicas that are there permanently. Is that true? Anyone knows something about that?

Thank you in advance.

Shizzle78

Hey guys,

I'll be in Medellin soon. I'll post a message, any Lizards here want to try to maximize the beautiful city experiment, I'll meet up with there, I think dating the help rule is one that must be be broken often. Haha

Hey guys!

I am pretty new here so I hope this is a good place to ask my stuff. I am staying (for at least) one month in Medellin and I would like to enjoy some of the local pleasures.

I am not into having penetration-sex with prostitutes but very much into "sexual-massages". So I feel like "brothels" and "casas" are a bit out of question for me (?)

I have read on another site that you can have like 45 minutes massages with 2 girls for like 60KCOP. (In Villa Nueva, name is: Sexi Sala De Masajes). Sounds really good but would that be quality? Can I expect good HJ / BJ? Good looking locals?

Could your guys recommend me the best possible place to have the kind of massage I am looking for? What kind of price? Directions?

That would be absolutely amazing! TY in advance.

[QUOTE=Concarne; 1536700]Hey fellows,

Moving to an apt in poblado today. Been doing a bit of centro and mayo chics and some cultural. What little there is. Stuff and shopping.

If anyone is around let's meet for a drink or some casa runs.

I found were liquid lounge is but is still unclear to me when the open hours are. Is right around where fase II is.

Anyways. Let me know if anyone wants to meet.

Cheers, [/QUOTE]Concarne, I see that TD posted facebook link. Make sure you have the address written down before you get in a cab. I had a hard time finding it the last time I tried a few months ago. I had to give up and go to Fase II.

[QUOTE=Jebapaf; 1536610]Last time I was down in Medellin I stayed at the Mansion, went to Fase dos and made casa runs. Arriving tonight for a 7 day stay. Mansion said they were booked so I got a hotel for the entire stay. I am looking for UTR girls on this trip. Part time university girls, models. I am only interested in 9s and 10s (Kate upton my idea of a 10). I would appreciate any referrals, Facebook connections etc. I will treat them extremely well and will keep their info private. I would appreciate any referrals.

Jebapaf[/QUOTE]Jebapaf, If you had taken the time to report on your adventures the last time you were in Medellin, I (and some others) would have gladly helped you out. You contributed nothing but you are expecting a lot. Good luck with 9s and 10s. Sorry and I am not trying to be a jerk but that is the reality. That is how the world works.

[QUOTE=Hioctane; 1535742]Yes, this forum is for Medellíand, but there are threads for food, hotels, wing requests, etc. For vets, a free style forum might be ok, but it makes it extremely difficult for newbies to find information and then they get flamed for it wanting to wade through the chit chat. This isn't isolated to this forum. Maybe the mods can me more proactive in moving posts to the right location.

Case in point. I was looking for information about Thailand. I had to go back 10-15 pages of chitchat to finally get to a report. In fact, this discussion should probably go in the general section. If you want to see more mish mash of posts, maybe this forum needs a "new posts" function.[/QUOTE]I agree with Hioctane. Forums are only as good as the organization of the threads. They were running into a similar issue in german FKK threads and they started a "lounge-chat" thread to chit chat and the "reports' threads are back to trip reports. Not a bad idea if you think about it.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1537273]I agree with Hioctane. Forums are only as good as the organization of the threads. They were running into a similar issue in german FKK threads and they started a "lounge-chat" thread to chit chat and the "reports' threads are back to trip reports. Not a bad idea if you think about it.[/QUOTE]Yeah maybe rename the General Information thread to, Medellin Chit Chat. Excellent idea and much needed. Keep the new thread in the top tier threads where it's in eye sight all the time. Good idea Vitrea.

Happy to say you heard wrong.

[QUOTE=Shizzle78; 1537234]Hi all,

I have heard that in Medellin must be a Chica Hotel. Like a Hotel with Chicas that are there permanently. Is that true? Anyone knows something about that?

Thank you in advance.

Shizzle78[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KillArmy; 1537260]Hey guys!

I am pretty new here so I hope this is a good place to ask my stuff. I am staying (for at least) one month in Medellin and I would like to enjoy some of the local pleasures.

I am not into having penetration-sex with prostitutes but very much into "sexual-massages". So I feel like "brothels" and "casas" are a bit out of question for me (?)

I have read on another site that you can have like 45 minutes massages with 2 girls for like 60KCOP. (In Villa Nueva, name is: Sexi Sala De Masajes). Sounds really good but would that be quality? Can I expect good HJ / BJ? Good looking locals?

Could your guys recommend me the best possible place to have the kind of massage I am looking for? What kind of price? Directions?

That would be absolutely amazing! TY in advance.[/QUOTE]Any of the girls in any of the over 50 centro casas would be happy to give you a little tuggy! Saves wear and tear on the vag!

[QUOTE=Socker;1537281]Yeah maybe rename the General Information thread to, Medellin Chit Chat. Excellent idea and much needed. Keep the new thread in the top tier threads where it's in eye sight all the time. Good idea Vitrea.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Any changes to the main thread section would have to be done by Admin. A user thread won't have the same usage or acceptance. Akin to a second page in google search :-D.

I contacted Jackson so lets wait and see if he will do it.

[QUOTE=KillArmy; 1537260]Hey guys!

I am pretty new here so I hope this is a good place to ask my stuff. I am staying (for at least) one month in Medellin and I would like to enjoy some of the local pleasures.

I am not into having penetration-sex with prostitutes but very much into "sexual-massages". So I feel like "brothels" and "casas" are a bit out of question for me (?)

I have read in Wikisexguide that you can have like 45 minutes massages with 2 girls for like 60KCOP. (In Villa Nueva, name is: Sexi Sala De Masajes). Sounds really good but would that be quality? Can I expect good HJ / BJ? Good looking locals?

Could your guys recommend me the best possible place to have the kind of massage I am looking for? What kind of price? Directions?

That would be absolutely amazing! TY in advance.[/QUOTE]Like TD says, anyone will be happy to do a pretend massage and tug. I think what you mean is a decent massage on a real table with a nice tug from a pretty girl in an upscale location? Those are definitely available. I reported on a few last year. Fernanda in Laureles comes to mind. She is a solid 9. Use the search function.

If you don't find them, post some reports of your early days in MDE and I will find them for you.

[QUOTE=Concarne; 1536700]Hey fellows,

Moving to an apt in poblado today. Been doing a bit of centro and mayo chics and some cultural. What little there is. Stuff and shopping.

If anyone is around let's meet for a drink or some casa runs.

I found were liquid lounge is but is still unclear to me when the open hours are. Is right around where fase II is.

Anyways. Let me know if anyone wants to meet.

Cheers, [/QUOTE]Bro, we have tried to send you PM but your inbox is full. Clean it up and send me PM. We are going out tonight.

Yesterday Luna Lunera. Usually Wednesdays are the first good day of the week for clubbing, LL had a real good line of hotties. Most of them curvy looking. MY friend got an spinner Sofia. Nice looking girl, and I had my first bad XP = (I don't even remember the name of the girl. Looked decent with clothes but real bad breast with out.

So Luna Lunera still good on quality. If anybody likes silicon, Camila is the one. A stunning hot brunet but with a hard core attitude she was real good in bed last trip but has some terrible local reviews I won't repeat because plastic is not in my menu. 130k half hour 35k minimum consuming. No cover

[QUOTE=KillArmy; 1537260]Hey guys!

I am pretty new here so I hope this is a good place to ask my stuff. I am staying (for at least) one month in Medellin and I would like to enjoy some of the local pleasures.

I am not into having penetration-sex with prostitutes but very much into "sexual-massages". So I feel like "brothels" and "casas" are a bit out of question for me (?)

I have read on another site that you can have like 45 minutes massages with 2 girls for like 60KCOP. (In Villa Nueva, name is: Sexi Sala De Masajes). Sounds really good but would that be quality? Can I expect good HJ / BJ? Good looking locals?

Could your guys recommend me the best possible place to have the kind of massage I am looking for? What kind of price? Directions?

That would be absolutely amazing! TY in advance.[/QUOTE]I believe a lot of girls would be willing to offer this type of service. At the mansion, there's also that one woman that offers a great massage with extras. I forgot her name. She has an amazing body!

[quote=vitrea; 1537384]like td says, anyone will be happy to do a pretend massage and tug. i think what you mean is a decent massage on a real table with a nice tug from a pretty girl in an upscale location? those are definitely available. i reported on a few last year. fernanda in laureles comes to mind. she is a solid 9. use the search function.

if you don't find them, post some reports of your early days in mde and i will find them for you.[/quote]thanks for the tip, i will look for her. good since i live very close to laureles.

i obviously have seen about the "casas" in the centro but i do not want to go in this kind of places. i am looking to go by daytime in a place only specialized into sex-massages. which i have struggled a bit with. so please, if you have some tips for me, it would be really super appreciated. i would go there this weekend and make a report.

as for my report of my first week in mde well. i have mainly discovered the medical system around here! broke my arm in the states a month ago (i am from europe though) and decided to do my revalidation in here. my physiotherapist (i can recommend her to anyone who ask) is nice and does a super good job. she comes after her work (around 8/9pmish) and cost "only" 30k per hour. went to do some x rays too (in centro de fracturas, in the center). quite cheap, like 35k per x-ray. and got them 1hour after arriving in the place.

as for the girls, from what i have seen. well, the reputation is not usurped damn! still have some regrets not talking with this 10' black / caribbean nurse girl i have seen in the metro few days ago. my spanish is average only though. but i am 6'5, 30y old and i believe i can be attractive to girls."unfortunately" (?) even though i am too tall to be local, i don't really look non local.

last but not least, i have made good friends with this 22y old really nice girl, super tall (about 6'1) for a local. but damn, she works all the time (typical paisa?) in some architecture projects. difficult to see her. and i have difficulties knowing "how to go to the point" with her. (have seen her 3/4 times but 2 last times, she was with the physio, who's a friend of her).

cheers

[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1537517]Bro, we have tried to send you PM but your inbox is full. Clean it up and send me PM. We are going out tonight.

Yesterday Luna Lunera. Usually Wednesdays are the first good day of the week for clubbing, LL had a real good line of hotties. Most of them curvy looking. MY friend got an spinner Sofia. Nice looking girl, and I had my first bad XP = (I don't even remember the name of the girl. Looked decent with clothes but real bad breast with out.

So Luna Lunera still good on quality. If anybody likes silicon, Camila is the one. A stunning hot brunet but with a hard core attitude she was real good in bed last trip but has some terrible local reviews I won't repeat because plastic is not in my menu. 130k half hour 35k minimum consuming. No cover[/QUOTE]Cleaned up. Sorry.

Going to energy today. Then museum hahah. Maybe bkue room later if I can find it.

I want to check out some live music. Thinking eslabon perdido. Salsa night tonigh. Who is up for it?

Found some interesting calle near centro. But it seems is only lesbians and gays there. Nobody was pushy and a couple of the lesbians were super hot. Bummer. A bit sketch. They call it calle del pecado. It has a real name. I forget. Starts with B. Anyways close to the SG centro area. Nothing special just different.

[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1537517]Bro, we have tried to send you PM but your inbox is full. Clean it up and send me PM. We are going out tonight.

Yesterday Luna Lunera. Usually Wednesdays are the first good day of the week for clubbing, LL had a real good line of hotties. Most of them curvy looking. MY friend got an spinner Sofia. Nice looking girl, and I had my first bad XP = (I don't even remember the name of the girl. Looked decent with clothes but real bad breast with out.

So Luna Lunera still good on quality. If anybody likes silicon, Camila is the one. A stunning hot brunet but with a hard core attitude she was real good in bed last trip but has some terrible local reviews I won't repeat because plastic is not in my menu. 130k half hour 35k minimum consuming. No cover[/QUOTE]When did they start the minimum consumption thing? It's funny that soda is 2-3k and yet a small can of beer is around 12k. Their drink prices are just stupid.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1536682]I'm sorry but you don't understand my bad English and now I expalin better: why at Metro and not at bar, restaurants, discos, parks, ets etc. Do you think Metro is better that all other options? It is very singular.[/QUOTE]This gets asked on here from time to time. Most of the new guys get this all wrong. Many guys stay in El Poblado and then hit on the girls in the street. For you guys trying to pick up regular girls you might want to go to the areas where the poor people frequent or work. For you new guys with limited game I wish you luck trying to pick up University students near the metro as you will need it. The guys who find great nonpro girls, who have time, will have sex with these girls 50-100+ times. For you guys on short trips IMO you are wasting your time as you have no time to nurture these situations. Just my two cents.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1537584]When did they start the minimum consumption thing? It's funny that soda is 2-3k and yet a small can of beer is around 12k. Their drink prices are just stupid.[/QUOTE]I don't know bro, but if you order beer they bring you the 3 minimum right away. Too bad

[QUOTE=YG365;1537544]I believe a lot of girls would be willing to offer this type of service. At the mansion, there's also that one woman that offers a great massage with extras. I forgot her name. She has an amazing body![/QUOTE]I believe her name is Olga, and I agree that she has one heck of a body, for her age. I don't have her number handy, but any one staying at the Mansion can get you her phone number.

[QUOTE=YG365;1537544]I believe a lot of girls would be willing to offer this type of service. At the mansion, there's also that one woman that offers a great massage with extras. I forgot her name. She has an amazing body![/QUOTE]Olga, absolutely kicks ass! If you enjoy really hard deep tissue stuff. For a bit extra there is the, technically perfect BBBJ, sort of reminds me of those lyrics "you make a grown man cry, you make a dead man cum" PM me for phone # she does house calls

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1537795]Olga, absolutely kicks ass! If you enjoy really hard deep tissue stuff. For a bit extra there is the, technically perfect BBBJ, sort of reminds me of those lyrics "you make a grown man cry, you make a dead man cum" PM me for phone # she does house calls[/QUOTE]You have pics of her? Stats?

Twed should know, he fell in love with her, even took her to San Andreas and tried to take her out off the game. Jajaja.

AG.

! QUOTE=TweedleD; 1537795]Olga, absolutely kicks ass! If you enjoy really hard deep tissue stuff. For a bit extra there is the, technically perfect BBBJ, sort of reminds me of those lyrics "you make a grown man cry, you make a dead man cum" PM me for phone # she does house calls[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff;1537590]This gets asked on here from time to time. Most of the new guys get this all wrong. Many guys stay in El Poblado and then hit on the girls in the street. For you guys trying to pick up regular girls you might want to go to the areas where the poor people frequent or work. For you new guys with limited game I wish you luck trying to pick up University students near the metro as you will need it. The guys who find great nonpro girls, who have time, will have sex with these girls 50-100+ times. For you guys on short trips IMO you are wasting your time as you have no time to nurture these situations. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't way "poor people" I'd say. Normal or middle class (relative) In Poblado every half decent looking non pro get swarmed by every abuelo gringo with a pocked full of viagra or back packer with a pocket full of nothing and 10 issues of Lonely Planet! Hahahh!

Must speak Spanish well enough to hold a decent conversation beyond the usual first 10min chats. If you are a handsome guy & in shape the language requirement goes down a little. If you are only say 5-10 years older than the chica the requirement goes down even further. I know the young, handsome, and in shape comments will spark a bunch of older, fat, ugly dudes to ring in with their "not me! No sir! I still do ok!" good for you save it we're talking in basic guide lines here.

Time is also key like VJ said. Unless you take them to the club and dance your ass off and load her ass up with drinks you will need time to land a non pro. That's just how it is. Unless you're young, handsome, and in good shape. If you're old, ugly / not handsome, and in horrible shape bring money!

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff;1537590]This gets asked on here from time to time. Most of the new guys get this all wrong. Many guys stay in El Poblado and then hit on the girls in the street. For you guys trying to pick up regular girls you might want to go to the areas where the poor people frequent or work. For you new guys with limited game I wish you luck trying to pick up University students near the metro as you will need it. The guys who find great nonpro girls, who have time, will have sex with these girls 50-100+ times. For you guys on short trips IMO you are wasting your time as you have no time to nurture these situations. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]Exactamente!

The non-pros I currently enjoy the company of, whether it be in Medellin, Cali or Brazil for that matter, I met casually, then nurtured the friendships over time and now enjoy the fruits.

Like Vegas Jeff says, meet regular type girls like students, girls working in stores, cafes, etc.
The 'born-with a- golden spoon' type girls, IMO are much more difficult to crack and also IMO aren't even worth it.
(i.e. Parque Lleras)

Get contact info. Write emails, texts, make calls and on future trips meet up again.

Has worked great for me.

I use a friendly but non-aggressive approach with the non-working girls.

Make them laugh.

I imagine this approach should be the obvious best approach for most.

If you don't speak spanish, unless maybe you're strikingly good looking, and even then it'd be difficult, the non- pro scene will be limited.

I went to New Life on Wednesday. A good line up. Out of the 10 they had at least 3 were very nice. I picked Stephanie. Very cute girl. Not so in shape when the clothes came off but still a real cutie. She's new, only been there for a month. It was a very nice experience and she is very affectionate. I haven't been on the prowl in Medellin since 2010. I've been in Medellin 6 times since then to date a girl I met while paragliding in San Felix.

While at New Life there were 3 local guys there watching the lineup parade. After I walked out of the building one of them started talking to me and he had fairly good English. These were some pretty care free guys in their 50's who were drinking some tequila and were out looking for some mischief. I talked to them for a while and they said that one of the guys knew another good place to hit. It took us a while to find it but the name is Pasarella. The address is Calle 59 (Cuba) No 50-67. It is on the 2nd floor. The gate on the street has a padlock on it at all times and once you ring the bell they come down to let you in. Average girls in this one besides a very good looking girl named Valentina. She has the body of a very fit aerobics instructor and a beautiful face. She told me she works out 3 hours per day at the gym, and I don't doubt it. Lots of energy with this girl. A rigorous BJ followed by multiple positions. No rush. Would highly recommend seeing this beauty. Prices appear to be the same as New Life. I paid 38k for 30 minutes.

The next morning I hit Energy over by the Stadium. Definitely a step up from the Centro casas in location and lineup. More expensive. As I paid 95k for 30 minutes. I think the girl I saw was Stephanie also. Very cute, beautiful face and smile. 20 years old. Multiple positions, Has braces (didn't make a difference). One of the girls in the lineup who I will see on this trip was Luna. Beautiful face, great rack and Colombian ass. You could see 2 girls at new life for the price of one here, but Energy definitely gives a more upscale experience. I am headed out today for more hunting. Going to take the Pablo Escobar tour in the next few days. I am headed out to Fase Dos with the 3 guys I met at New Life. They were great guys so I decided to treat them to a free entry fee to Fase and buy them a few drinks when we get there. , more reports to follow.

Sometimes it would be great to jut get a great massage with a BBBJ as a release. Go ahead and PM me her info whoever had them please.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1537766]I believe her name is Olga, and I agree that she has one heck of a body, for her age. I don't have her number handy, but any one staying at the Mansion can get you her phone number.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Concarne; 1537565]Cleaned up. Sorry.

Going to energy today. Then museum hahah. Maybe bkue room later if I can find it.

I want to check out some live music. Thinking eslabon perdido. Salsa night tonigh. Who is up for it?

Found some interesting calle near centro. But it seems is only lesbians and gays there. Nobody was pushy and a couple of the lesbians were super hot. Bummer. A bit sketch. They call it calle del pecado. It has a real name. I forget. Starts with B. Anyways close to the SG centro area. Nothing special just different.[/QUOTE]Energy was ok yesterday. About 10 presented. 3 doable.

Took Vanessa. Pretty nice in the room. Quite cute face. Good energy.

As my friend Q drills from time to time. Casa quality nowhere near what you find in Rio. Oh well. This is a place for expats. But why rehash all that is been said. Other than the occasional luck shot. I would want to just meet the regulars and hang and take it from there but with short trips even fluent in spanish. Sg and casas and clubs it is.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1537855]Twed should know, he fell in love with her, even took her to San Andreas and tried to take her out off the game. Jajaja.

AG.

! QUOTE=TweedleD; 1537795]Olga, absolutely kicks ass! If you enjoy really hard deep tissue stuff. For a bit extra there is the, technically perfect BBBJ, sort of reminds me of those lyrics "you make a grown man cry, you make a dead man cum" PM me for phone # she does house calls[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Yeah, that didn't work out so well, [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL6tCqnPOSA[/url]

[QUOTE=Concarne; 1536700]Hey fellows,

Moving to an apt in poblado today. Been doing a bit of centro and mayo chics and some cultural. What little there is. Stuff and shopping.

If anyone is around let's meet for a drink or some casa runs.

I found were liquid lounge is but is still unclear to me when the open hours are. Is right around where fase II is.

Anyways. Let me know if anyone wants to meet.

Cheers, [/QU.

Hey Concarne.

Are you the same Concarne from Club Hombre? I am in town so Liquid will be more fun than usual. We haven't been working hard on our previous business model of being a gringo club because we are converting to a full public strip club. But we still have an at least a few non Mansion unjaded cute girls here every night.

Call 26A #43F-72 is our address. I just connected our address to Google Maps and Waze so it should be much easier to find. Our hours are currently Wed-Sunday 8-3am but don't come before 10.

Come and say hello and I'll buy you a drink. Saturday night is our free photo session promo for the girls, so we should have a nice collection of photogenic girls wanting Av8r's photography skills.

And a Mamasan as well (manager of girls).

If anyone knows any girls who might be interested in dancing for us, please refer them to our Facebook page or call Larry our manager at 301-445-7734. [url]https://www.facebook.com/liquidloungemedellin/info[/url]

Attached is a copy of the Chica Recruitment Flyer. Feel free to give to anyone interested. For more info and photos, see my thread in the Liquid thread under Colombia section.

Just got back from my third Medellin and Bogota trip with my buddies, we were just there to check out the local dating and club scene.

Compared to Medellin, Bogota has many upscale New York style clubs. Really had a blast at Andres Carne de Res, we took a table in the VIP section and ordered a Old Parr bottle with Red bull. The girls were just smoking hot and very approachable, and a majority of them spoke decent English. If you were dressed nice and offer them a shot of high end whiskey many were willing to join you at your table. If will really enjoy if you spoke a bit Spanish but not required, I spoke decent Spanish and was able to connect with some hot girls.

In Medellin we toured Luxury, Envy, Club S, and Karma. All were very decent but small compared to Bogota clubs, the girls were not all that sophisticated, mostly wearing jeans and no english at all! The cover for most clubs was 15000 peso like 7 dollars.

I met this one girl Johanna on one of the dating sites.

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com[/url]

Also called RL. She was cute 23 year old, we decided to meet at a restaurant in Lleras first, she ask if it was ok to bring her friends, I said it was cool as I had a buddy with me. After we consumed few drinks at the sky bar we decided to try club Envy as it was just a few blocks away. Envy is a high end clubs and was filled with many hotties, we danced with her and two of her friends, I connected with Johanna instantly, we stated making and soon decided to take the party to our apartment in Las Palmas, she slept with me that night and one of her friends hit the sack with my buddy which was cool. She or her friend asked for any money, we only paid for her taxi, I thought we got lucky.

But the next day, we messages me and says it is kind of urgent and she has to pay tuition and she said if she can borrow some money. I am not sure what to say, I really do not want to turn her down, she was only asking for 200K, but not sure if she is really playing games.

I was wondering if any one had any encounter with this girl or if you can recognize her just wanted to make sure she is not a player. If she has a real need I have no issues paying her, she was really good in bed. Attached are her photos.

Thanks in advance for sharing info.

[QUOTE=Joe Six Pack; 1538021]Just got back from my third Medellin and Bogota trip with my buddies, we were just there to check out the local dating and club scene.

Compared to Medellin, Bogota has many upscale New York style clubs. Really had a blast at Andres Carne de Res, we took a table in the VIP section and ordered a Old Parr bottle with Red bull. The girls were just smoking hot and very approachable, and a majority of them spoke decent English. If you were dressed nice and offer them a shot of high end whiskey many were willing to join you at your table. If will really enjoy if you spoke a bit Spanish but not required, I spoke decent Spanish and was able to connect with some hot girls.

In Medellin we toured Luxury, Envy, Club S, and Karma. All were very decent but small compared to Bogota clubs, the girls were not all that sophisticated, mostly wearing jeans and no english at all! The cover for most clubs was 15000 peso like 7 dollars...[/QUOTE]There are no loans in Latin America. It is just the way money is asked for. And it is not done is a sneaky way. People here are indirect. Give her the 'loan' or not. But understand you are NOT to ask for the money back.

It is her polite way to remind you that it is customary / etiquette that a gentleman in that situation would give the lady that amount of money. 200k seems to be reasonable.

[QUOTE=Joe Six Pack; 1538021]But the next day, we messages me and says it is kind of urgent and she has to pay tuition and she said if she can borrow some money. I am not sure what to say, I really do not want to turn her down, she was only asking for 200K, but not sure if she is really playing games.

I was wondering if any one had any encounter with this girl or if you can recognize her just wanted to make sure she is not a player. If she has a real need I have no issues paying her, she was really good in bed. Attached are her photos.

Thanks in advance for sharing info.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Joe Six Pack;1538021]I met this one girl Johanna on one of the dating sites.

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com[/url]

I connected with Johanna instantly, we stated making and soon decided to take the party to our apartment in Las Palmas, she slept with me that night and one of her friends hit the sack with my buddy which was cool. She or her friend asked for any money, we only paid for her taxi, I thought we got lucky.

But the next day, we messages me and says it is kind of urgent and she has to pay tuition and she said if she can borrow some money. I am not sure what to say, I really do not want to turn her down, she was only asking for 200K, but not sure if she is really playing games.

I was wondering if any one had any encounter with this girl or if you can recognize her just wanted to make sure she is not a player. If she has a real need I have no issues paying her, she was really good in bed. Attached are her photos.

Thanks in advance for sharing info.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]It is her polite way to remind you that it is customary / etiquette that a gentleman in that situation would give the lady that amount of money. 200k seems to be reasonable.[/QUOTE]What he said.

RL is a known prepago site. I would say 99.9 percent of the chicas on that site are pros.

[QUOTE=Jebapaf;1537914]The next morning I hit Energy over by the Stadium. Definitely a step up from the Centro casas in location and lineup. More expensive. As I paid 95k for 30 minutes. I think the girl I saw was Stephanie also. Very cute, beautiful face and smile. 20 years old. Multiple positions, Has braces (didn't make a difference). One of the girls in the lineup who I will see on this trip was Luna. Beautiful face, great rack and Colombian ass. You could see 2 girls at new life for the price of one here, but Energy definitely gives a more upscale experience. I am headed out today for more hunting. Going to take the Pablo Escobar tour in the next few days. I am headed out to Fase Dos with the 3 guys I met at New Life. They were great guys so I decided to treat them to a free entry fee to Fase and buy them a few drinks when we get there. , more reports to follow.[/QUOTE]IMO The Blue Room has the best talent of the daytime MP's right now.

If you like skinny girls, Andrea is as good as can be found in a daytime mp. I haven't sessioned with Sara but she has a nice body also.

I have been just about everywhere over the past month with the exception of Loutron.

You might want to consider the hour rate as high end daytime casas have very high 30 min rates.

Energy 60 min 120k. Blue Room 60 min 100k.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1537795]Olga, absolutely kicks ass! If you enjoy really hard deep tissue stuff. For a bit extra there is the, technically perfect BBBJ, sort of reminds me of those lyrics "you make a grown man cry, you make a dead man cum" PM me for phone # she does house calls[/QUOTE]Olga offers a pretty kickass porn star experience. I've heard rumors where she use to be Pablo Escobar's personal girl or something like that? How often do you get to bang someone that banged someone famous?

Has anyone been there lately? I have a quick question to ask you. PM me and I will present it.

Thanks.

Many girls at Energy will give you numbers and come to your place if you ask them.

[QUOTE=Jebapaf;1537914]I went to New Life on Wednesday. .[/QUOTE]

I saw where someone posted on here about a casa in Centro called Paris Club. I hit that casa on Friday around 11 or 12:00. 3 girls total at the time. A nice cute, very pleasant girl named Paola (I think. Starts with a P) was there. I took her as she was very cut. Great ass. Small on top probably a small B but such a cute girl. Not the most bubbly girl, but she is a little shy. Service was good. No complaints. She was a real trooper while I was having my way with here. For 19 bucks I have no complaints at all.

Last night I decided to go to Fase 2 around 10:00pm. It was dead when I got there. A couple of guys came in sat beside me. They were from Florida and we sat and drank while the action heated up. There is absolutely no need to get to this place until 11:00pm. Really dead the first hour we were there. Talent was mediocre. There were I would say about 3 that were interesting. I would rank these 3 an 8, 8.5, and a 9. My new friends hooked up with the 8 and 8. 5. I watched this beauty (9) dance on the stage and her body was outstanding. Gorgeous ass. Totally built. As soon as she came of the stage I approached her and told her I wanted to see her. I went to pay for it over at the bar. I asked if I could pay with dollars. They figured that it would be 109 dollars. You definitely want to pay with pesos in this place, definitely cheaper. Anyways, I take this girl next door to the South Beach rooms. Amazing body. I am drooling. She didn't crack a smile the entire time. All business. Maybe 1. 5 minutes of BJ and then as soon as she mounted me the fake moans began. I decided I wanted to be on top. She said I was big as we started in this position and for the first 5 to 7 minutes I was only in half way going slow. More fake moans. At this point I knew this was not going to be a good experience. I started putting the pedal to the metal. More fake moans and requests for me to finish. Terrible service. Her name is Julieta. Stay away. If you go there see a girl named Perla. One of my new friends saw her. She was the 8. 5. I got her number (if anyone wants it let me know). She was smiling the whole time we were there. Always look for attitude. If they act like a princess in the club then they are going to act like a princess in the bed. I should have known better. I was amazed by my girl's body and at the time didn't think past that. Needless to say I will not be going back to Fase Dos.

[QUOTE]Many girls at Energy will give you numbers and come to your place if you ask them.[/QUOTE]These tits can be found on a slim 22 year old MILF (and MIDF) that can often be found at Energy. Depends on one's tastes, of course, but I though this pair were close to perfection. A pleasure giver, for sure.

Hey guys,

Sorry for insisting, I have been really looking into this in the forum / reports but still am very unsure.

Could any one recommend me a place that is not a "casa / brother" (I do not wish to go there) where you can get nice full body massage (+ make me see.)? For prices like 50/60k for 1 hour massage? With possibilities of having 2 girls at the same time?

Definitely more helpful to have someone posting reports than someone like me "whining for answers" but. Yeah, I just feel like I need someone (s) advice in here.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=KillArmy; 1538381]Hey guys,

Sorry for insisting, I have been really looking into this in the forum / reports but still am very unsure.

Could any one recommend me a place that is not a "casa / brother" (I do not wish to go there) where you can get nice full body massage (+ make me see.)? For prices like 50/60k for 1 hour massage? With possibilities of having 2 girls at the same time?

Definitely more helpful to have someone posting reports than someone like me "whining for answers" but. Yeah, I just feel like I need someone (s) advice in here.

Thanks![/QUOTE]A good start is at the Mansion, where any first time visitor should seriously consider. Olga is not a spring chicken, rides a motorcycle, and has a very hard and well conditioned body. Gives a hell of a massage. Several years ago I stayed there and Olga would come over each morning for anyone needing a good massage. Half way though the massage she ran out of lotion. I ask if she needed to get more, and her reply was "as long as I have these hands and this mouth, that's all I need." Soon I understood what she meant and was in full agreement. You won't have any trouble finding what you're looking for. Just relax and get to the City of Eternal Spring.

Only good energy, amigo

[QUOTE=KillArmy; 1538381]Hey guys,

Sorry for insisting, I have been really looking into this in the forum / reports but still am very unsure.

Could any one recommend me a place that is not a "casa / brother" (I do not wish to go there) where you can get nice full body massage (+ make me see.)? For prices like 50/60k for 1 hour massage? With possibilities of having 2 girls at the same time?

Definitely more helpful to have someone posting reports than someone like me "whining for answers" but. Yeah, I just feel like I need someone (s) advice in here.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I could be wrong, but even in Medellin, I don't know of anyone who gives a professional massage, with or without the happy ending for less than 80k, and the infamous Olga, is going to be more than that.

Don't recall current prices 110 or 120k per hour? [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvSbNrtJYtc[/url]

[QUOTE=KillArmy; 1538381]Hey guys,

Sorry for insisting, I have been really looking into this in the forum / reports but still am very unsure.

Could any one recommend me a place that is not a "casa / brother" (I do not wish to go there) where you can get nice full body massage (+ make me see.)? For prices like 50/60k for 1 hour massage? With possibilities of having 2 girls at the same time?

Definitely more helpful to have someone posting reports than someone like me "whining for answers" but. Yeah, I just feel like I need someone (s) advice in here.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

I guess you are interested in Medellin massage chics (which are zero to none) so I will reply here w / what I can tell you. Massages are great but not a latin chica forte, way too much work involved but probably possible nonetheless.

A few options from my imagination and not experience.

1. Find 2 freelancers and negotiate the details (in a cafe or bar) take them to a short time hotel. Have your own supplies and watch them work your willy.

2. Do the same w / any hooker in Medellin Facebook, strip club, Mansion, (costly but the best) or stay at a hotel in La Mayorista and and hire 2 girls there. You will have to have all the accouterments at every venue. What you are shooting for should be very satisfying w / minimal skill involved. If you were at the Mansion you could easily interview lovely women that will rub your body and theirs and end up w / a gooey mess at the end.

What you want is not much and Medellin is a good place to get it all.

Best to you.

This happened to me one night.

[QUOTE=Socker;1538498]1. Find 2 freelancers and negotiate the details (in a cafe or bar) take them to a short time hotel. Have your own supplies and watch them work your willy.[/QUOTE]Sometimes agreed details are not those you like and you have to pay the agreed money. Some years ago I went to La Mayorista and I saw a beautiful girl. I stopped her and I asked her a BBBJ. The girl has a wonderful body (rate 9+) but gave me a ridiculous BBBJ. A very bad and quick BBBJ. Another time I asked another BBBJ to a girl I have known on Facebook and she give me the same bad BBBJ. Now I'm thinking about what you tell on this forum. It seems Medellin is an Earthly Paradise but I have to tell you: if you are a lucky man you can find what you like but it not always is what you write about Medellin. I'd like to read more objective posts about girls in Medellin. Try to be impartial in your judgements.

Loutron, Abydos, Energy or Blue Room open on Sunday?

Just wanted to say thank you for all the advices guys! Things are more clear now. Very much appreciated!

redacted, I've changed my mind about my post

[QUOTE=Jebapaf; 1538297]I saw where someone posted on here about a casa in Centro called Paris Club. I hit that casa on Friday around 11 or 12:00. 3 girls total at the time. A nice cute, very pleasant girl named Paola (I think. Starts with a P) was there. I took her as she was very cut. Great ass. Small on top probably a small B but such a cute girl. Not the most bubbly girl, but she is a little shy. Service was good. No complaints. She was a real trooper while I was having my way with here. For 19 bucks I have no complaints at all.

Last night I decided to go to Fase 2 around 10:00pm. It was dead when I got there. A couple of guys came in sat beside me. They were from Florida and we sat and drank while the action heated up. There is absolutely no need to get to this place until 11:00pm. Really dead the first hour we were there. Talent was mediocre. There were I would say about 3 that were interesting. I would rank these 3 an 8, 8.5, and a 9. My new friends hooked up with the 8 and 8. 5. I watched this beauty (9) dance on the stage and her body was outstanding. Gorgeous ass. Totally built. As soon as she came of the stage I approached her and told her I wanted to see her. I went to pay for it over at the bar. I asked if I could pay with dollars. They figured that it would be 109 dollars. You definitely want to pay with pesos in this place, definitely cheaper. Anyways, I take this girl next door to the South Beach rooms. Amazing body. I am drooling. She didn't crack a smile the entire time. All business. Maybe 1. 5 minutes of BJ and then as soon as she mounted me the fake moans began. I decided I wanted to be on top. She said I was big as we started in this position and for the first 5 to 7 minutes I was only in half way going slow. More fake moans. At this point I knew this was not going to be a good experience. I started putting the pedal to the metal. More fake moans and requests for me to finish. Terrible service. Her name is Julieta. Stay away. If you go there see a girl named Perla. One of my new friends saw her. She was the 8. 5. I got her number (if anyone wants it let me know). She was smiling the whole time we were there. Always look for attitude. If they act like a princess in the club then they are going to act like a princess in the bed. I should have known better. I was amazed by my girl's body and at the time didn't think past that. Needless to say I will not be going back to Fase Dos.[/QUOTE]Julieta is a classic example of a girl who started relatively fresh and wound up a total *****. When she worked at the Barra Ejecutiva I'd go in there and for 80K-100K pesos I would pound her asshole every night. As soon as she got to F2, she gave me the cold shoulder. A couple times, eh, it was circumstance maybe but the third time she flat out told me she wasn't interested, even with a tip on top of the absurd 170K fee. She went from hustling 1K tips and 50K fucks in a centro bar to turning down good money for a gig with someone she knew really well?

I saw this with a girl recently at a casa. She could making more at a place like F2 or the Mansion, I admit, but inside of a month she went from offering BBFS for a very reasonable tip to not even offering BBBJ or accepting a relatively heavy tip for it. Above just the service side of things, you can see a change in the girls' attitudes. Ah well, there is a pipeline of hot women here, no need to get hung up on a particular one.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1539027]Julieta is a classic example of a girl who started relatively fresh and wound up a total. When she worked at the Barra Ejecutiva I'd go in there and for 80K-100K pesos I would pound her asshole every night. As soon as she got to F2, she gave me the cold shoulder. A couple times, eh, it was circumstance maybe but the third time she flat out told me she wasn't interested, even with a tip on top of the absurd 170K fee. She went from hustling 1K tips and 50K fucks in a centro bar to turning down good money for a gig with someone she knew really well?

I saw this with a girl recently at a casa. She could making more at a place like F2 or the Mansion, I admit, but inside of a month she went from offering BBFS for a very reasonable tip to not even offering BBBJ or accepting a relatively heavy tip for it. Above just the service side of things, you can see a change in the girls' attitudes. Ah well, there is a pipeline of hot women here, no need to get hung up on a particular one.[/QUOTE]Wilt, we have both seen this too many times. I remember a new girl named Maria from The Del Rey in CR. Jonesie had sex with her, in her first week of work, and then when he was about to cum she requested it on her face. I would say that it is rare that you will get this type of request from a girl on her first time being with you. Dennis, from the Freebird, and Todd from Sabana Park did a threesome with her a week later. Dennis took a picture of her with two loads on her face. Dennis was having sex with her a few times a week for about a month afterward. At three months she was completely cold and would not even do BBBJ.

Like you said, above all is the difference in the girls' attitudes. Almost all of my regulars quit their gigs within the first month.

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1539058]Wilt, we have both seen this too many times. I remember a new girl named Maria from The Del Rey in CR. Jonesie had sex with her, in her first week of work, and then when he was about to cum she requested it on her face. I would say that it is rare that you will get this type of request from a girl on her first time being with you. Dennis, from the Freebird, and Todd from Sabana Park did a threesome with her a week later. Dennis took a picture of her with two loads on her face. Dennis was having sex with her a few times a week for about a month afterward. At three months she was completely cold and would not even do BBBJ.

Like you said, above all is the difference in the girls' attitudes. Almost all of my regulars quit their gigs within the first month.[/QUOTE]LOL, ah Dennis still has one of the best photo albums!

I have a noviecita that after much coaxing she agreed to a threesome. Does anyone know a girl who is good for this. I need someone who isn't a newb to the threesome game and cute / sexy that my girl will not be grossed out by. If you prefer to PM me by all means.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1539160]I have a noviecita that after much coaxing she agreed to a threesome. Does anyone know a girl who is good for this. I need someone who isn't a newb to the threesome game and cute / sexy that my girl will not be grossed out by. If you prefer to PM me by all means.[/QUOTE][url]Http://xhamster.com/movies/868385/johan_y_lorena_de_medellin_show_lesbiana.html[/url] I'll PM you their facebook

Anyone have this paisa's Facebook? If so, please PM it to me, if possible. [url]http://xhamster.com/movies/2682475/amazing_body_from_medellin_webcam.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Jebapaf; 1538297]I saw where someone posted on here about a casa in Centro called Paris Club. I hit that casa on Friday around 11 or 12:00. 3 girls total at the time. A nice cute, very pleasant girl named Paola. ... [ .... ] Last night I decided to go to Fase 2 around 10:00pm. It was dead when I got there. [...] Needless to say I will not be going back to Fase Dos.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your write up, warts and all.

I was about to book my ticket to come down this weekend but, was told by my friend that there is a primary election Sunday March 9th and that there will be no Liquor sales Saturday and Sunday?

I made the mistake of going to Panama a few years back during election time and it was very boring and dry.

Can someone with knowledge please confirm this or let me know about this weekend. March 8th and 9th.

I am trying to find something on line and it appears there is some sort of primary election but, can not find any other info.

Thanks

Interesting posts by two well respected posters (WTS and VJ). It is actually sad to see what can happen to these girls. I goes to show that it is a very rough business they choose to work in and I am sure not every guy treats them well. The more attractive she is the busier she getting pounded hard every night and adding a few bad experiences can easily make her jaded. Some are not smart or sophisticated enough to at least treat those guys nicely that treated them nicley in the past. Personally, I don't get upset when I run into a cold one (I do when I run into a bitXXchy one) but on the flip side I have learned to truly appreciate girls that remain sweet, which is SOOOO hard to do.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1539027]Julieta is a classic example of a girl who started relatively fresh and wound up a total. When she worked at the Barra Ejecutiva I'd go in there and for 80K-100K pesos I would pound her asshole every night. As soon as she got to F2, she gave me the cold shoulder. A couple times, eh, it was circumstance maybe but the third time she flat out told me she wasn't interested, even with a tip on top of the absurd 170K fee. She went from hustling 1K tips and 50K fucks in a centro bar to turning down good money for a gig with someone she knew really well?

I saw this with a girl recently at a casa. She could making more at a place like F2 or the Mansion, I admit, but inside of a month she went from offering BBFS for a very reasonable tip to not even offering BBBJ or accepting a relatively heavy tip for it. Above just the service side of things, you can see a change in the girls' attitudes. Ah well, there is a pipeline of hot women here, no need to get hung up on a particular one.[/QUOTE]She started out nice and giving as can be, getting her ass pounded every night. Not just by our, Wilt, but dude after dude, dick after dick, clean, dirty, skinny, fat, short, tall, decent looking, ugly looking.

Jaja, WTF?

Sounds to me that she's making some better career moves! Wilt? Maybe she was tired of the ass pounding? LOL. Shit bro (no pun) give the chica a break will ya?

Unless we can do a better job then there's no good cause to be unhappy w / this one. She has moved to a different space, she's trying to get thru this part of her life.

No one here can criticize her for being more cautious and / or offering less. It's her business and she does it the way she wants to. If you got her before she tightened her rules then be happy! Now that it is different be on your way and wish her well. No rocket science here, just professional courtesy and respect.

I am more in line w / this sentiment.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1539197]Interesting posts by two well respected posters (WTS and VJ). It is actually sad to see what can happen to these girls. I goes to show that it is a very rough business they choose to work in and I am sure not every guy treats them well. The more attractive she is the busier she getting pounded hard every night and adding a few bad experiences can easily make her jaded. Some are not smart or sophisticated enough to at least treat those guys nicely that treated them nicely in the past. Personally, I don't get upset when I run into a cold one (I do when I run into a bitXXchy one) but on the flip side I have learned to truly appreciate girls that remain sweet, which is SOOOO hard to do.[/QUOTE]These chicas (all decent hookers) have one of the hardest jobs on the freaking planet. They should get the benefit of the doubt from mongers. The general public hates them, they need a break from the people who know them, us.

I will be back to this lovely place in a couple of weeks.

Oh, the spice will be that my lovely, formerly puta in CTG (the same as last year, for those who archive my reports. I guess not many, but who knows.) will join me for 3-4 days as novia.

We have a special feeling and she is a nice lady. Now, she stays at home to take care of her little girl in a small town of inner Colombia. It's a while she does not work in CTG or other cities.

Now, I have a question for old regular experts.

She would like to explore the night life of MDE with me, possibly not just Poblado bars. Last year, we went to a swinger club (see report March 2013) , but on a Monday it was almost empty and we took it as a piece of curiosity.

Any hint for this time? What about the swinger club scene in MDE? Some will admit only couples like in BOG? Any hope to have some fun not on Saturday? Any club you recommend from the List? Is the List up to date on this, by the way?

Thanks a lot!

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1539221]I will be back to this lovely place in a couple of weeks.

Oh, the spice will be that my lovely, formerly puta in CTG (the same as last year, for those who archive my reports. I guess not many, but who knows.) will join me for 3-4 days as novia.

We have a special feeling and she is a nice lady. Now, she stays at home to take care of her little girl in a small town of inner Colombia. It's a while she does not work in CTG or other cities.

Now, I have a question for old regular experts.

She would like to explore the night life of MDE with me, possibly not just Poblado bars. Last year, we went to a swinger club (see report March 2013) , but on a Monday it was almost empty and we took it as a piece of curiosity.

Any hint for this time? What about the swinger club scene in MDE? Some will admit only couples like in BOG? Any hope to have some fun not on Saturday? Any club you recommend from the List? Is the List up to date on this, by the way?

Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]Hey man there are a couple of swingers clubs in barrio Colombia. One is on the fifth or sixth floor of some industrial building. The other is on Friday nights from like 7-12 or 7-2. If you want info on the latter, PM me, I will get it from my lady friend. I had planned to go last week but she got sick and we had to bag it.

i would not expect to find such functions on random nights like sunday through wednesday.

[QUOTE=Socker; 1539207].

These chicas (all decent hookers) have one of the hardest jobs on the freaking planet. They should get the benefit of the doubt from mongers. The general public hates them, they need a break from the people who know them, us.[/QUOTE]Well said. I was trying to say the same but just not as eloquent.

P. S. By no means I promote or encourage bad service or attitude.

After getting frustrated with my search for an apartment I settled on this new hotel when I got a rate I could not pass up. Has anyone been here and what is their policy with girls?

[QUOTE=Brianlajd;1539254]I got a rate I could not pass up.[/QUOTE]A girl told me that they are girl friendly, but don't quote me on that. Just call front desk and ask them about their visitor policy.

May I ask what that rate was, because when I looked it up a couple of days ago the cheapest room ran at 170k a night.

[QUOTE=Brianlajd;1539254]After getting frustrated with my search for an apartment I settled on this new hotel when I got a rate I could not pass up. Has anyone been here and what is their policy with girls?[/QUOTE]How much do you pay, and what quality of room you get?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Brianlajd;1539254]After getting frustrated with my search for an apartment I settled on this new hotel when I got a rate I could not pass up. Has anyone been here and what is their policy with girls?[/QUOTE]There is a hotel and apt thread, maybe you'd get some usuful info and feed back there.

Good luck

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1539230]Hey man there are a couple of swingers clubs in barrio Colombia. One is on the fifth or sixth floor of some industrial building. The other is on Friday nights from like 7-12 or 7-2. If you want info on the latter, PM me, I will get it from my lady friend. I had planned to go last week but she got sick and we had to bag it.

I would not expect to find such functions on random nights like Sunday through Wednesday.[/QUOTE]That is, exactly the 3-4 days she will be with me (if she comes on Saturday night, I would not take her straight to a swingers club. It would not be nice)

Well, if you are so kind to PM me your details, I will be grateful. Thanks anyway for taking the time to reply.

[QUOTE=Kukulkan; 1539533]How much do you pay, and what quality of room you get?

Thanks[/QUOTE]66 US a night for a Standard Room. Hotel is supposed to be brand new and gets great reviews.

Av8r. Looking to ask you some questions re Liquid Lounge but don't want to bore everyone here. Think you can clear some space in your inbox to accept some PMs? DaveQUOTE=Av8r; 1535433]If anyone knows anyone that might fit the bill, please PM and let me know. And yes, it HAS to be a women.

Attached is a copy of the Chica Recruitment Flyer that we have been handing out in select areas. We are already inundated with girls, and desperately need someone to manage them. We are also giving free pole dancing classes to qualified girls, and are hoping for a few really talented ones that we can train to higher levels of creative and exotic type dancing.

We are still working hard for the opening of the full service public club. Expect sometime end of March.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Socker; 1539207]She started out nice and giving as can be, getting her ass pounded every night. Not just by our, Wilt, but dude after dude, dick after dick, clean, dirty, skinny, fat, short, tall, decent looking, ugly looking.

Jaja, WTF?

Sounds to me that she's making some better career moves! Wilt? Maybe she was tired of the ass pounding? LOL. Shit bro (no pun) give the chica a break will ya?

Unless we can do a better job then there's no good cause to be unhappy w / this one. She has moved to a different space, she's trying to get thru this part of her life.

No one here can criticize her for being more cautious and / or offering less. It's her business and she does it the way she wants to. If you got her before she tightened her rules then be happy! Now that it is different be on your way and wish her well. No rocket science here, just professional courtesy and respect.

I am more in line w / this sentiment.

These chicas (all decent hookers) have one of the hardest jobs on the freaking planet. They should get the benefit of the doubt from mongers. The general public hates them, they need a break from the people who know them, us.[/QUOTE]First of all, I actually knew her pretty well and no, it was extremely unlikely that she was doing that with other clients. I could provide graphic reasons as to why, but I will opt not to.

Secondly, this is not an observation made in a vacuum. If a girl simply strays away from bareback sex or other such extras, how could I blame her? It pertains more to attitude and service. This gentleman is the latest of many to lodge the same complaints.

You can take the cape off. I'm not saying your points aren't valid, but you're using generalizations to address a specific incident where they don't really apply.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1539160]I have a noviecita that after much coaxing she agreed to a threesome. Does anyone know a girl who is good for this. I need someone who isn't a newb to the threesome game and cute / sexy that my girl will not be grossed out by. If you prefer to PM me by all means.[/QUOTE]I tried to reply to your PM but your mailbox is full.

The gist of what I said was that you should contact me much closer to your actual arrival date. It's pretty tough to arrange something 3-4 months in advance.

Thanks

I just got to MDE. If there are any other 20 or 30 something's who want a wingman, spontaneous gangbang, or what not, I'm down. Message me.

[QUOTE=BallsDeep;1540024]I just got to MDE. If there are any other 20 or 30 something's who want a wingman, spontaneous gangbang, or what not, I'm down. Message me.[/QUOTE]"Spontaneous gangbang or what not"

I am afraid to ask what "what not" might consist of.

Hit me up if you're trying to out and see some girls, I'm around, early 30s.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1540373]"Spontaneous gangbang or what not"

I am afraid to ask what "what not" might consist of.

Hit me up if you're trying to out and see some girls, I'm around, early 30s.[/QUOTE]Hey Wilt,

My buddy and I fly in tomorrow and will be going out Saturday. We lined up Fernando to drive us around. Once my membership is activated, I will PM you. I'm 30 and my buddy is 34 and it's our first time to Colombia.

"what not" no idea what that means either.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1540373]"Spontaneous gangbang or what not"

I am afraid to ask what "what not" might consist of.

Hit me up if you're trying to out and see some girls, I'm around, early 30s.[/QUOTE]In this case it's about whatever happens. Just banging chicks or 3 way, 4way, gangbang. Chicks are definitely involved. I'm thinking about checking out some casas downtown right now. I've got an apt and was thinking about getting some street action for LT if I fancy it.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1538446]I could be wrong, but even in Medellin, I don't know of anyone who gives a professional massage, with or without the happy ending for less than 80k, and the infamous Olga, is going to be more than that.[/QUOTE]How does one get a hold of this Olga, and what are her rates for and hour massage with a happy ending? Is her happy ending HJ or CBJ / BBBJ?

[QUOTE=BallsDeep;1540405]How does one get a hold of this Olga, and what are her rates for and hour massage with a happy ending? Is her happy ending HJ or CBJ / BBBJ?[/QUOTE]I'm in Hawaii but when I get home I'll look in my Col. File, I might have her.

I always see her sunning herself at HMP #2 and she has a very nice disposition. She's built like a slender Russian weight lifter, w / big bolt ons. I have heard her massage is very strong and skilled. I would assume her other skills are on the market and good indeed.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Socker; 1540478]I would assume her other skills are on the market and good indeed.

Cheers[/QUOTE]I think she took the class! [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrWNpA4Oao4[/url]

I've never actually had a famous massge from her but I talk to her every morning while I was there, A class act and a beautiful lady. I slip her 20 thou now and then just for karma sake.

[QUOTE=BrianLajd;1539254]After getting frustrated with my search for an apartment I settled on this new hotel when I got a rate I could not pass up. Has anyone been here and what is their policy with girls?[/QUOTE]Stayed there the last time I was in Medellin and it was a nice hotel. They are girlfriendly too.

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1540632]I've never actually had a famous massge from her but I talk to her every morning while I was there, A class act and a beautiful lady. I slip her 20 thou now and then just for karma sake.[/QUOTE]As far as her other services are concerned. Seems like a long way to come for something that can be picked at your local "Blue Martini". Some of the best preserved cougars I have ever seen hangout at mine in Scottsdale AZ. And they are all DTF. Apparently after U-turn 40 you get tired of playing games.

If you do take Olga for one of her famous massages one day. Take Greg's advice and keep her fist well away from your asshole. LOL!

We are going to have too many girls as often happens.

Attached is the work commencing this weekend, and is the new face of Liquid.

[QUOTE=Av8r; 1540730]We are going to have too many girls as often happens.

Attached is the work commencing this weekend, and is the new face of Liquid.[/QUOTE]I like it!

Now if you could just truck in some mayorista street walkers to hang around the outside tables. You might be able to make all the gringos happy. Jajaja

Fernando is a super good guy, and it's great to be able to count on him when you're in Medellin.

[QUOTE=LoveMeLatinas; 1540393]Hey Wilt,

My buddy and I fly in tomorrow and will be going out Saturday. We lined up Fernando to drive us around. Once my membership is activated, I will PM you. I'm 30 and my buddy is 34 and it's our first time to Colombia.

"what not" no idea what that means either.[/QUOTE]

Ahh, this is still the place to post reports for Medellin right? Righto, let's get to it then.

I went to Energy looking or Salome who, as it turns out,"se fue". The line-up was pretty short, but my timing was not great, it as about 5 pm. About 8 girls, the usual Energy talent, nothing too exciting, nothing revolting, more girls with larger breasts than I'm used to here in MDE. I went with Luna. 24 yo (I think) , no kids (probably true) , great figure, very firm breasts (insists they are real, did not see or feel any scars, but damn they were firm). Good CBJ, but lots of fake moaning, but good service overall. Had to insist on the massage though (cansado. Jajaja) which was not any better than you expect them to be at Energy. Overall I would say Luna is a solid choice, just not spectacular.

And since we are on the subject of spectacular, I went with SalomeatEnergy in November and enjoyed her very much. I got her number then, but had to wipe my data (damn electronics) and since she has left Energy I can't get in touch with her. I know this is a shot in the dark, but if anyone knows her and can get me in touch with her I would sure appreciate it. She is about 23 yo, very short (no, I'm talking about hight here) , not skinny, not chubby, has a child, and that's all I know. Not much to go on, but who knows.

Cheers,

Nick Nasty

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1540632]I've never actually had a famous massge from her but I talk to her every morning while I was there, A class act and a beautiful lady. I slip her 20 thou now and then just for karma sake.[/QUOTE]I don't know this lady buy I applaud the $20K for Karmas sake. Let's hope she appreciates it with the feeling it was intended.

Hola amigos,

When I will reach Medellin I will have my laptop. Do you know is it faster to surf on Internet with a pendrive + SIM card or with wifi at a some hotels? How much SIM card + activation cost for one month (flat activaction)?

Thank you!

[QUOTE=LoveMeLatinas; 1540393]Hey Wilt,

My buddy and I fly in tomorrow and will be going out Saturday. We lined up Fernando to drive us around. Once my membership is activated, I will PM you. I'm 30 and my buddy is 34 and it's our first time to Colombia.

"what not" no idea what that means either.[/QUOTE]That's cool, man, hit me up and perhaps we can meet up during the week.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1540907]Hola amigos,

When I will reach Medellin I will have my laptop. Do you know is it faster to surf on Internet with a pendrive + SIM card or with wifi at a some hotels? How much SIM card + activation cost for one month (flat activaction)?

Thank you![/QUOTE]You might find some useful information in the Cell phone topic.

Could we please try to keep random questions and "hey let's hang out" to their correct topics por favor.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1540907]How much SIM card + activation cost for one month?[/QUOTE]Claro will cost you 10k for the sim and 55k for 1 month with 3 gb included, not sure how much the usb stick will cost you, if you don't bring your own. It's pretty fast, but depending on what you do (pics, vids) you can burn through 3 gb pretty fast. Also Claro can be a bit unreliable here, and you may drop to 2g at some places even in Poblado.

What happened to the old face?

AG.

QUOTE=Av8r; 1540730]We are going to have too many girls as often happens.

Attached is the work commencing this weekend, and is the new face of Liquid.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1541037]What happened to the old face?

AG.

QUOTE=Av8r; 1540730]We are going to have too many girls as often happens.

Attached is the work commencing this weekend, and is the new face of Liquid.[/QUOTE]

It's still there; just getting a nip and tuck. Although now that Robert's back in town, we're going a bit further than I expected. Still, the changes are necessary to become a strip club instead of just a bar.

AV8Tr, I was in Liquid Lounge a couple of weeks ago, and it was tough to find the place. Cabbie had to stop and ask for directions. Maybe you guys need to get on some maps or hand them out on the back of a business card.

[QUOTE=BeersTerry;1541842]AV8Tr, I was in Liquid Lounge a couple of weeks ago, and it was tough to find the place. Cabbie had to stop and ask for directions. Maybe you guys need to get on some maps or hand them out on the back of a business card.[/QUOTE]Yeah they have some kind of kickback program with taxistas but that is such a sloooooooooooow way of reaching these guys. How many taxis are there in Medellin? Thousands upon thousands. Reaching them one by one is isn't very efficient. I agree the place is super hard to find. Not once when I went did the taxista know where it was or did they find it easily from the address. One time the guy gave up and went back home!

First of all dudes, do not start the polemic about the pimping Stuff please, is just so depressing and sad, doesn't do any good to nobody.

I have a friend how is willing to go a little bit to the surface for very short period of time. She asked me to recommend nice people to her.

She is not so picky about age, but she ask for clean and nice guys. No hard core freaky stuff. If somebody is in town and want to try his luck PM me. If you have good reputation in the board that helps plus. And yes, there are pics. Have no clue about BBJ and extras but may be negotiable (with her, not with me OK!). She is 200k but she worth it in my opinion, sporty cute young girl.

Good luck guys.

[QUOTE=WascalWabbit; 1540794]Ahh, this is still the place to post reports for Medellin right? Righto, let's get to it then.

I went to Energy looking or Salome who, as it turns out,"se fue". The line-up was pretty short, but my timing was not great, it as about 5 pm. About 8 girls, the usual Energy talent, nothing too exciting, nothing revolting, more girls with larger breasts than I'm used to here in MDE. I went with Luna. 24 yo (I think) , no kids (probably true) , great figure, very firm breasts (insists they are real, did not see or feel any scars, but damn they were firm). Good CBJ, but lots of fake moaning, but good service overall. Had to insist on the massage though (cansado. Jajaja) which was not any better than you expect them to be at Energy. Overall I would say Luna is a solid choice, just not spectacular.

And since we are on the subject of spectacular, I went with SalomeatEnergy in November and enjoyed her very much. I got her number then, but had to wipe my data (damn electronics) and since she has left Energy I can't get in touch with her. I know this is a shot in the dark, but if anyone knows her and can get me in touch with her I would sure appreciate it. She is about 23 yo, very short (no, I'm talking about hight here) , not skinny, not chubby, has a child, and that's all I know. Not much to go on, but who knows.

Cheers,

Nick Nasty[/QUOTE]Dude still looking for Salome? She may be something else. Because with all the super hotties we have seen this 2 weeks I wouldn't even remember her name =). Bro you are a good wing man. Too bad we have the same taste in girls hahaa

[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1542316]First of all dudes, do not start the polemic about the pimping Stuff please, is just so depressing and sad, doesn't do any good to nobody.

I have a friend how is willing to go a little bit to the surface for very short period of time. She asked me to recommend nice people to her.

She is not so picky about age, but she ask for clean and nice guys. No hard core freaky stuff. If somebody is in town and want to try his luck PM me. If you have good reputation in the board that helps plus. And yes, there are pics. Have no clue about BBJ and extras but may be negotiable (with her, not with me OK!). She is 200k but she worth it in my opinion, sporty cute young girl.

Good luck guys.[/QUOTE]Guys, my inbox is getting full and can't reply to all asking for e-mails. I will delete the PMs to make room. Please send the Pm again with your e mail to send the pictures.And also tell me what name you will use because she wont answer to any random dudes.. only the name I tell her. Don't forget to send the e mail. I can't post her pics here.

[QUOTE=Hioctane; 1535742]Yes, this forum is for Medellíand, but there are threads for food, hotels, wing requests, etc. For vets, a free style forum might be ok, but it makes it extremely difficult for newbies to find information and then they get flamed for it wanting to wade through the chit chat. This isn't isolated to this forum. Maybe the mods can me more proactive in moving posts to the right location.

Case in point. I was looking for information about Thailand. I had to go back 10-15 pages of chitchat to finally get to a report. In fact, this discussion should probably go in the general section. If you want to see more mish mash of posts, maybe this forum needs a "new posts" function.[/QUOTE]Okay, here's the deal. The DB who initially had a problem with my posts slinked away back into the ooze from which which he originally slithered. My concern was never where information should be posted, but that the end game was to pass on said information, not hold it over people's head like some kind of prize, only accessible to those deemed worthy. To those senior members who found it in their hearts to overlook my newbie-ism as well as a little thread topic bleed, thank you. I owe you guys several solids. For those of you more concerned with the hassle of having to sort through an entire thread to find information pertinent to you than actually sharing information, welcome to the web. At the end of the day, this is Jackson's page. If he feels it's appropriate to add more categories, great. If he feels I"m posting inappropriately he has shown, both here and in the USA post, a demonstrated ability to take care of business and either set me straight or bounce my ass. He has done neither to date.

I should point out that, although there are sections for Colombian food and a few other threads, there are only four threads that deal directly with Medellin- Medellin Reports, Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments, Medellin Lists, and Map of Casas of Centro in Medellin. You might notice that none of these address any of the periphery issues or information you average monger might wish. Let's say you spend all night buried up to your neck in delicious Paisa chimba? Are you really going to travel to Colombia and see the whole country through the window of a love motel? C'mon! I would encourage Jackson to subdivide the threads to include more variety, but again, this is his page. He does what he wants, as I would do with mine.

The real bottom line is that information is power. Two things can happen. Either I can use the information I gather to empower you fellow mongers, providing you with a better, safer and more rounded experience, or I can hold it above your head like the class bully holding your lunch money just out of reach until you provide some esoteric level of respect I have neither earned nor deserve. From this point out I will take care to post in the appropriate thread, but I will also inform you forthwith that I will not edit any posts to winnow out any references that aren't explicitly and directly related to pussy- if I happened to have a great meal or stroll through the Botero museum in the process of my chimba hunt, I'm not going to post it elsewhere. It's going right in with the chimba report. Deal with it.

Folks, I spent ten days on the ground in El Centro, and although I'm far from an expert on Colombia I learned more in that short time than some of the regular posters have in a lifetime of professional mongering. I have a degree in Latin American history and have traveled around the world. Yes, I"m a newbie here but an oldie by any other measure, and probably have more insight into Colombian culture and society than most of the senior members here. Any members wanting more information, be you senior or brand-newbie, drop me a line. I'll do my best to share the most accurate and complete information I can- for free. No reason to suck up to me or qualify your past service as a monger- if I've learned something I feel it's my responsibility to pass it on, as it's pretty useless bottled up in my noggin. Cíao!

Watch out for this chica- she skinned me pretty good. All's fair, but she's one of those who could benefit from a good half hour of serious backdoor action without the benefit of lube.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy; 1542486]Okay, here's the deal. The DB who initially had a problem with my posts slinked away back into the ooze from which which he originally slithered. My concern was never where information should be posted, but that the end game was to pass on said information, not hold it over people's head like some kind of prize, only accessible to those deemed worthy. To those senior members who found it in their hearts to overlook my newbie-ism as well as a little thread topic bleed, thank you. I owe you guys several solids. For those of you more concerned with the hassle of having to sort through an entire thread to find information pertinent to you than actually sharing information, welcome to the web. At the end of the day, this is Jackson's page. If he feels it's appropriate to add more categories, great. If he feels I"m posting inappropriately he has shown, both here and in the USA post, a demonstrated ability to take care of business and either set me straight or bounce my ass. He has done neither to date.

I should point out that, although there are sections for Colombian food and a few other threads, there are only four threads that deal directly with Medellin- Medellin Reports, Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments, Medellin Lists, and Map of Casas of Centro in Medellin. You might notice that none of these address any of the periphery issues or information you average monger might wish. Let's say you spend all night buried up to your neck in delicious Paisa chimba? Are you really going to travel to Colombia and see the whole country through the window of a love motel? C'mon! I would encourage Jackson to subdivide the threads to include more variety, but again, this is his page. He does what he wants, as I would do with mine.

The real bottom line is that information is power. Two things can happen. Either I can use the information I gather to empower you fellow mongers, providing you with a better, safer and more rounded experience, or I can hold it above your head like the class bully holding your lunch money just out of reach until you provide some esoteric level of respect I have neither earned nor deserve. From this point out I will take care to post in the appropriate thread, but I will also inform you forthwith that I will not edit any posts to winnow out any references that aren't explicitly and directly related to pussy- if I happened to have a great meal or stroll through the Botero museum in the process of my chimba hunt, I'm not going to post it elsewhere. It's going right in with the chimba report. Deal with it.

Folks, I spent ten days on the ground in El Centro, and although I'm far from an expert on Colombia I learned more in that short time than some of the regular posters have in a lifetime of professional mongering. I have a degree in Latin American history and have traveled around the world. Yes, I"m a newbie here but an oldie by any other measure, and probably have more insight into Colombian culture and society than most of the senior members here. Any members wanting more information, be you senior or brand-newbie, drop me a line. I'll do my best to share the most accurate and complete information I can- for free. No reason to suck up to me or qualify your past service as a monger- if I've learned something I feel it's my responsibility to pass it on, as it's pretty useless bottled up in my noggin. Cíao![/QUOTE]Thanks Sammy, but why all the bravado dude?

It's easy really. There are various sections of the Forum, try and post info in the appropriate one.

Makes grabbing info much easier for others.

I don't get all the hostility about it.
It's quite simple.

Relax.

As far your 10 days in el Centro and wanting to help others with your now grand knowledge surpassing most others, well Thank you.

Truthfully though, the best guys on this board are the ones that post info and experiences, etc without having to highlight how great and knowledgeable they are compared to others.

For your information; Jackson wants to make this site similar to the [url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/index.php[/url] Site.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy; 1542486]Okay, here's the deal. The DB who initially had a problem with my posts slinked away back into the ooze from which which he originally slithered. My concern was never where information should be posted, but that the end game was to pass on said information, not hold it over people's head like some kind of prize, only accessible to those deemed worthy. To those senior members who found it in their hearts to overlook my newbie-ism as well as a little thread topic bleed, thank you. I owe you guys several solids. For those of you more concerned with the hassle of having to sort through an entire thread to find information pertinent to you than actually sharing information, welcome to the web. At the end of the day, this is Jackson's page. If he feels it's appropriate to add more categories, great. If he feels I"m posting inappropriately he has shown, both here and in the USA post, a demonstrated ability to take care of business and either set me straight or bounce my ass. He has done neither to date.

I should point out that, although there are sections for Colombian food and a few other threads, there are only four threads that deal directly with Medellin- Medellin Reports, Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments, Medellin Lists, and Map of Casas of Centro in Medellin. You might notice that none of these address any of the periphery issues or information you average monger might wish. Let's say you spend all night buried up to your neck in delicious Paisa chimba? Are you really going to travel to Colombia and see the whole country through the window of a love motel? C'mon! I would encourage Jackson to subdivide the threads to include more variety, but again, this is his page. He does what he wants, as I would do with mine.

The real bottom line is that information is power. Two things can happen. Either I can use the information I gather to empower you fellow mongers, providing you with a better, safer and more rounded experience, or I can hold it above your head like the class bully holding your lunch money just out of reach until you provide some esoteric level of respect I have neither earned nor deserve. From this point out I will take care to post in the appropriate thread, but I will also inform you forthwith that I will not edit any posts to winnow out any references that aren't explicitly and directly related to pussy- if I happened to have a great meal or stroll through the Botero museum in the process of my chimba hunt, I'm not going to post it elsewhere. It's going right in with the chimba report. Deal with it.

Folks, I spent ten days on the ground in El Centro, and although I'm far from an expert on Colombia I learned more in that short time than some of the regular posters have in a lifetime of professional mongering. I have a degree in Latin American history and have traveled around the world. Yes, I"m a newbie here but an oldie by any other measure, and probably have more insight into Colombian culture and society than most of the senior members here. Any members wanting more information, be you senior or brand-newbie, drop me a line. I'll do my best to share the most accurate and complete information I can- for free. No reason to suck up to me or qualify your past service as a monger- if I've learned something I feel it's my responsibility to pass it on, as it's pretty useless bottled up in my noggin. Cíao![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ricker;1542578]Truthfully though, the best guys on this board are the ones that post info and experiences, etc without having to highlight how great and knowledgeable they are compared to others.[/QUOTE]I read about pink snapper fishing years ago, [url]http://www.dongordo.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=World Travel 69; 1542612]For your information; Jackson wants to make this site similar to the.

[url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/index.php[/url]

Site.[/QUOTE]This is a great idea. Just the mention of the word COLOMBIA brings up all sorts of emotions and discussions. You could fill a warehouse with all of it.

To be honest I wish the Colombia Forum was back on moderation. The amount of arguing and nit picking that goes on between grown men is embarrassing. It also scares people off from posting. This isn't good for the forum.

Looking forward to the new set up.

Best of luck to him. I think Uncle Jax will learn the difference between running an Arg. Site from BA, and trying to run a MDE site from BA. None the less, I love a good competition. I love smack talk even more. The biggest winner would be the Medellin monger community.

[QUOTE=World Travel 69; 1542612]For your information; Jackson wants to make this site similar to the.

[url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/index.php[/url]

Site.[/QUOTE]

Extremely short of time, I will send the pics later or tomorrow.

Just a heads up, do not get frustrated if she doesn't answer. She is just like all the normal girls, bipolar and elusive. We have to deal with that Bs. But if you are lucky will be real nice, service is always great because she goes when she feels good.

[QUOTE=BeersTerry;1541842]AV8Tr, I was in Liquid Lounge a couple of weeks ago, and it was tough to find the place. Cabbie had to stop and ask for directions. Maybe you guys need to get on some maps or hand them out on the back of a business card.[/QUOTE]Sorry.

I'm in the process of making it much easier. For one thing, it is on Google maps. Just search for Liquid Medellin, and it should come right up. There is a program and app called Waze. A great mapping program, and we are easily found on that as well. [url]https://www.waze.com/[/url] And of course you can always call Larry the manager at 301 445 7734.

For those that have been there, you know the actual street is hard to find. Taxi drivers miss it all the time. The main street is called 43G, and it's one way. If you see Amarna Club, then you have gone one block too far. Just get out and walk back a block to our street 26A. We are right across from Brinks Security Co. We are getting ready to build a nice big sign that will be easy to see from the 43G. Another confusing aspect is that our address is Calle 26A 43 (F).72, and the main cross road is called 43 (G). Don't ask me why.

It won't be long before most taxi's know who we are. As most of you know, we've been primarily a gringo place, and have never bothered to promote ourselves to the Medellin public. That will end in a couple of weeks. We will begin a massive advertising campaign with radio, taxi stamps, flyers and more. The new grand opening as a public strip club will be April 26th. We wanted a week or two earlier, but it's Easter. Our new Facebook page, and website will launch at that time as well. Most of the construction to the club site is now complete, and we are working on the short time rooms next door, and the rooms for the out of town girls to live. We have recruited 6 out of town chicas so far, and 2 are spectacular. So much so, that I don't' know how long they'll last. On top of many other expenses, Robert and I just spent 5k yesterday on 2 industrial 60, 000 BTU AC units.

But I want to be careful not to mislead anyone. Things can be hit and miss as far as girls. Nothing bothers me more than having guys come in, and have few or no girls. Eventually, some always come. And we have a select group we can call if we know guys are coming. You can always call our manager Larry, and ask him how it looks, or to tell him you're coming. If he knows, he will make sure there are chicas there. His number is 301 445 7735

Attached is copy of inside of new biz card. The phone number is a bit confusing because it's a hard line. I think one has to dial 034 from a cell phone.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1542657]This is a great idea. Just the mention of the word COLOMBIA brings up all sorts of emotions and discussions. You could fill a warehouse with all of it.

To be honest I wish the Colombia Forum was back on moderation. The amount of arguing and nit picking that goes on between grown men is embarrassing. It also scares people off from posting. This isn't good for the forum.

Looking forward to the new set up.[/QUOTE]I'd love to see Jackson set up a more extensive section for Medellin. If there were more categories to post there would be more information flowing. If he finds some threadlines aren't popular, delete them and add others. Most people don't have any problem posting appropriately if there are clearly defined areas to post.

Making Trip to Medellin for Semana Santa weekend from 18-23! How's Medellin during that time for p4p? Hows the Mansion those dates? I'm going either way so a heads up would be great. Any particular casas I should visit? Not really going to sight see but to release some backed up stress and tension.

[QUOTE=DmeHcg;1543061]Making Trip to Medellin for semana santa weekend from 18-23! Hows Medellin during that time for p4p? Hows the Mansion those dates? I'm going either way so a heads up would be great. Any particular casas I should visit? Not really going to sight see but to release some backed up stress and tension.[/QUOTE]I hate to tell you this but Semana Santa is the worse time of the year for PFP, clubbing, etc IMO.

Especially on Thursday and Friday.

I was there once on those days and swore to never repeat that mistake.

[QUOTE=DmeHcg;1543061]Making Trip to Medellin for semana santa weekend from 18-23! Hows Medellin during that time for p4p? Hows the Mansion those dates? I'm going either way so a heads up would be great. Any particular casas I should visit? Not really going to sight see but to release some backed up stress and tension.[/QUOTE]Why didn't you ask these questions before booking your trip?

Mongering in any predominantly Catholic country is a bad idea during this time.

[QUOTE=Av8r; 1542735]I'm in the process of making it much easier. For one thing, it is on Google maps. Just search for Liquid Medellin, and it should come right up. There is a program and app called Waze. A great mapping program, and we are easily found on that as well.

[url]https://www.waze.com/[/url]

And of course you can always call Larry the manager at 301 445 7734.

For those that have been there, you know the actual street is hard to find. Taxi drivers miss it all the time. The main street is called 43G, and it's one way. If you see Amarna Club, then you have gone one block too far. Just get out and walk back a block to our street 26A. We are right across from Brinks Security Co. We are getting ready to build a nice big sign that will be easy to see from the 43G. Another confusing aspect is that our address is Calle 26A 43 (F).72, and the main cross road is called 43 (G). Don't ask me why.[/QUOTE]The easiest way to get there is to tell the taxi driver to go to "Luxury Discoteca en Barrio Colombia." Every taxi driver knows where that is. Depending on which way he is coming from. When he gets to the corner of Luxury, go along Carrera 43G two blocks and make a right. If you don't know how to say it, get out and walk! It's really close.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1543116]Why didn't you ask these questions before booking your trip?

Mongering in any predominantly Catholic country is a bad idea during this time.[/QUOTE]I'll be honest not much of a religious person besides knowing the usual solid dates to certain obvious holidays I really don't pay attention. I had booked it a couple of months back and I just realized today the mistake I made. I get there Friday afternoon so I'm hoping shouldn't be too bad. I'm open for any ideas or suggestions from anyone that lives there or has been there during that time. I'm down for anything even if it's a watering hole and just people watch. Don't want to go to sit in a room and stare at wall or sit in watching TV. If nobody has ideas I'll figure it out, I always do!

Thanks in advance!

I wouldn't go that far. I've been in Rio a few times during Semana Santa and the only day that was subpar was Good Friday itself.

Medellin is of course quite a bit more conservative than Rio.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1543116]Why didn't you ask these questions before booking your trip?

Mongering in any predominantly Catholic country is a bad idea during this time.[/QUOTE]

Thursday is pretty dead and Friday is completely dead, you better set some dates up beforehand. It is a very calm week by Medellin standards. Enjoy the trip.

[QUOTE=DmeHcg;1543061]Making Trip to Medellin for semana santa weekend from 18-23! Hows Medellin during that time for p4p? Hows the Mansion those dates? I'm going either way so a heads up would be great. Any particular casas I should visit? Not really going to sight see but to release some backed up stress and tension.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DmeHcg;1543124]I'll be honest not much of a religious person besides knowing the usual solid dates to certain obvious holidays I really don't pay attention. I had booked it a couple of months back and I just realized today the mistake I made. I get there Friday afternoon so I'm hoping shouldn't be too bad. I'm open for any ideas or suggestions from anyone that lives there or has been there during that time. I'm down for anything even if it's a watering hole and just people watch. Don't want to go to sit in a room and stare at wall or sit in watching TV. If nobody has ideas I'll figure it out, I always do! Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]There will be people out and about, lots of them actually, heading to the church services.

I was there on the Thursday and Friday of Semana Santa, and did the people watch thing.

El Centro was DEAD on both those days. So dead it was much more scary than usual at night.

The good news is, it gets much better on Saturday.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1543217]There will be people out and about, lots of them actually, heading to the church services.

I was there on the Thursday and Friday of Semana Santa, and did the people watch thing.

El Centro was DEAD on both those days. So dead it was much more scary than usual at night.

The good news is, it gets much better on Saturday.

Have fun![/QUOTE]You may not be religious, but they certainly are. I was taking pictures on the Centro pedestrian mall (between Plaza Botero and Plaza San Antonio) on Ash Wednesday and I'd say 80% of the people, including the streetwalkers, had ash crosses on their brows. They might invoke God's displeasure by their lifestyle or activities, but pretty much everyone sees the same path to redemption and paradise.

[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1542316]First of all dudes, do not start the polemic about the pimping Stuff please, is just so depressing and sad, doesn't do any good to nobody.

I have a friend how is willing to go a little bit to the surface for very short period of time. She asked me to recommend nice people to her.

She is not so picky about age, but she ask for clean and nice guys. No hard core freaky stuff. If somebody is in town and want to try his luck PM me. If you have good reputation in the board that helps plus. And yes, there are pics. Have no clue about BBJ and extras but may be negotiable (with her, not with me OK!). She is 200k but she worth it in my opinion, sporty cute young girl.

Good luck guys.[/QUOTE]Inbox kind of clean up now, sorry for the friends couldn't get in touch. Try again. And thanks to the guys have seen her already, she said you were nice and cool, keep the good vibe so paradise can last longer.

By the way. I will work on a list of girls that need a little push and they asked me as a favor. Just give me chance. One consideration is that most of them are in the University so will be sometimes a real pain in the ass to get in touch with them. Ones again only clean dudes with out extra freaky taste.

Just to echo what others have said, Thursday to Sunday on Semana Santa will be unusually calm. Most establishments will be closed, many girls will be with their families. You should square away a date and a plan B for these days on your own, get some of your regulars or at least girls that you know.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1543413]Just to echo what others have said, Thursday to Sunday on Semana Santa will be unusually calm. Most establishments will be closed, many girls will be with their families. You should square away a date and a plan B for these days on your own, get some of your regulars or at least girls that you know.[/QUOTE]That's pretty much what I have been doing is talking to chicas I met from last trip and finding new ones on FB. Its amazing how many have been to Mansion, it so easy to tell just by looking at background of some of there pics (Color of walls & rooms) where they took picture. BTW has anyone checked out any of the reggaeton or salsa clubs in the area, I was looking into checking a few out while there. Also do you guys recommend I take some chicas from Mansion (Staying there again) or just meeting new ones there!

*Side note the constant arguing and bickering between some of the members makes for very interesting read!

Not only prostitutes but also gangs are religious. Churches are telling them that God will forgive whatever they did if they believe in God (and implicitly, donate some money). Financial contribution by the gangs to Church is very large.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1543374]You may not be religious, but they certainly are. I was taking pictures on the Centro pedestrian mall (between Plaza Botero and Plaza San Antonio) on Ash Wednesday and I'd say 80% of the people, including the streetwalkers, had ash crosses on their brows. They might invoke God's displeasure by their lifestyle or activities, but pretty much everyone sees the same path to redemption and paradise.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the post. Let us know when you have the list together.

[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1543404]Inbox kind of clean up now, sorry for the friends couldn't get in touch. Try again. And thanks to the guys have seen her already, she said you were nice and cool, keep the good vibe so paradise can last longer.

By the way. I will work on a list of girls that need a little push and they asked me as a favor. Just give me chance. One consideration is that most of them are in the University so will be sometimes a real pain in the ass to get in touch with them. Ones again only clean dudes with out extra freaky taste.[/QUOTE]

This is a long overdue report. I was in Med. For 5 days in Feb, this was my first visit there, although I have been to Cartagena 7-8 times prior. A little about me, as these are just my observations. I am a very young 53, and am fortunate to be able to leave work in 2-3 years. I have always thought of living outside of the states for 3-5 months of the year after that. I have travelled a fair amount thru South America. I have always thoroughly enjoyed my time in Col, although realizing I had only seen 1 city / a very small portion / sample size. So this trip was to see a different city, and also realizing that if I were to stay for an extended time, I would want 1. A bigger city / more to do / see, and 2. A more temperate climate then Cart.

I opted to stay at the Medellin plaza #2 (#1 was fully booked) due the convenience for the 1st time and my (very) limited Spanish. I have to recommend them, as I believe they offer an excellent service, which has been described here multiple times. They actually almost make it too easy to just hang out and enjoy the girls that rotate thru. I will compare and contrast the 2 cities, again based on my opinion. And I realize we can differ. The 1st thing you will realize is how much bigger / varied Medellin is. When I'm in Cart. I always take an apt. in Bocagrande, and after mult visits I feel very comfortable moving about the city (most common areas) on my own or with friends. This is not the case in Med, which is so much bigger, that it can be quite overwhelming. Also, while in cart. You will see the occasional gringo, ok more then just a few, but I rarely interact w / them, almost all my interactions are with Colombians, now when staying at the Mansion, you are surrounded by other gringos. And I met some very nice guys, but It certainly isn't what I'm used to in Colombia (yes, I did expect it though, I understood the set up). Of course I love the girls there, they had some very beautiful ones pass thru. I also enjoy the party scene that Colombia has to offer, and while I get how some guys like to rack up huge of girls, almost like on a mission, I just as much enjoy the party vibe w / 1-2 of them. This is where, hanging out at the Mansion it is almost too easy, you meet a girl that likes to have fun, and it's easy to do all that you want without ever leaving the premises. This leads to many late nights and a lack of energy / drive to get out and explore the city. I realize that was my fault (lack of self control / laziness) on my part, and I fully accept the blame for that. Also I felt it was much easier to get by on very limited Spanish in Cart. Anyways, I didn't get to see nearly as many regular sight seeing things (or restaurants / regular bars, clubs) as I had wanted to (or do in Cart) , but again that was on me. I will definitely visit again, although I might opt for the apt route just to force myself to be out and about, as I have a number of facebook contacts that could serve as a starting point, and I realize my Spanish needs to improve, although I do plan on taking concentrated lessons / courses. That part may have to wait until the work situation clears up. I will highly recommend the casas, while going in I didn't think that would be my thing, as I'm not usually the quickie type, but while most of the girls I wouldn't touch, you would every once in a while come across a stunner. And at 17$ for 30 min, that can't be beat. More observations to come, but this is enough for now.

Keep them coming

The biggest mistake I made in Medellin was not sticking to top shelf chimba. At those prices, it's not about quantity, it's about quality. My bad.

Good news, the titties are getting bigger, Bad news, the stomach is getting bigger

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1544997]The biggest mistake I made in Medellin was not sticking to top shelf chimba. [b]At those prices[/b], it's not about quantity, it's about quality. My bad.[/QUOTE]What is this in reference to Sammy?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1545196]What is this in reference to Sammy?[/QUOTE]My point is that I spent too much time bargain shopping pussy in Medellin. I put quantity and value over quality- that may be a factor in some places, but when a city has such a collection of "10's" one's time and money is better spent on quality. I had some cute pros at about $15-20 a pop, but I would have been better cutting the number of girls in half and doubling the quality of those I did see. When some of the average street girls look like this it's an easy mistake to make. Next time- and there will be a next time, and very soon- I'll be eating at all of the finest restaurants, if you know what I mean. To put a finer point on it, the girl on the left was just wonderful (you can find her for $10US/$20KC at the Botero Horse on the across the street from the museum to the south) , but the girl on the right and I struck up a conversation after I took this picture that ended up being $50US/$100kC- and she was very attentive. Ah, memories.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1545077]Good news, the titties are getting bigger, Bad news, the stomach is getting bigger[/QUOTE]Speaking of that, just heard from Robert, of the Mansion (Medellin Bob) , that his girlfriend is having his baby (DNA verified).

He's happy excited!

Yikes!

Watch yourselves guys! LOL

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1545228]My point is that I spent too much time bargain shopping pussy in Medellin. I put quantity and value over quality- that may be a factor in some places, but when a city has such a collection of "10's" one's time and money is better spent on quality. I had some cute pros at about $15-20 a pop, but I would have been better cutting the number of girls in half and doubling the quality of those I did see. When some of the average street girls look like this it's an easy mistake to make. Next time- and there will be a next time, and very soon- I'll be eating at all of the finest restaurants, if you know what I mean. To put a finer point on it, the girl on the left was just wonderful (you can find her for $10US/$20KC at the Botero Horse on the across the street from the museum to the south) , but the girl on the right and I struck up a conversation after I took this picture that ended up being $50US/$100kC- and she was very attentive. Ah, memories.[/QUOTE]Gotcha. I completely agree bro. As much as I love in-person point-and-click like at the casas or street chicas, my online roster is stacked with favs and newbies. I mean, what can be better than viewing a chicas own online personal catalog that is updated weekly, if not daily, LOL. No real need for me to go bargain hunting when I have a list of solid performers and newbie potentials who are all quality (based on my preference in looks and body type).

I still don't want to write casas, strip clubs, and street chicas off. Just can't justify running from place to place to find what I want when it is easily accessible to me via point and click online. Takes all of the guesswork out, save for performance (which is still an unknown in either situation until you have actually sessioned with her).

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1504106][url]Http://www.colombiajake.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Carlos came and went and was one of the few guys that was actually young and better looking than the girls most of the time, which is highly unusual because most of you guys are old and scary! LOL I honestly don't know how these chicas can somehow look beyond all those wrinkles. Baldness and bad genes! They are amazing and yes the money, but still they must the ability to go to some other planet or someplace less scary! I'm including myself so don't think its personal! After a nice break Scott arrives on the 2nd through the 9th and the phone has been ringing a lot this week for openings during the next 10 days. What you won't find on your own coming down here on a short term basis is girls willing to go have a drink or two and even split a dinner, walk around and come back for a session to close out the night for next to nothing. You can find it here see you soon! Jake

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1545319]Gotcha. I completely agree bro. As much as I love in-person point-and-click like at the casas or street chicas, my online roster is stacked with favs and newbies. I mean, what can be better than viewing a chicas own online personal catalog that is updated weekly, if not daily, LOL. No real need for me to go bargain hunting when I have a list of solid performers and newbie potentials who are all quality (based on my preference in looks and body type).

I still don't want to write casas, strip clubs, and street chicas off. Just can't justify running from place to place to find what I want when it is easily accessible to me via point and click online. Takes all of the guesswork out, save for performance (which is still an unknown in either situation until you have actually sessioned with her).[/QUOTE]So are you going on Facebook, Craigslist or what for your selections?

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1545291]Speaking of that, just heard from Robert, of the Mansion (Medellin Bob) , that his girlfriend is having his baby (DNA verified).

He's happy excited!

Yikes!

Watch yourselves guys! LOL[/QUOTE]How can it be DNA verified if the baby hasn't been born yet? Or did you mean HAD instead of HAVING?

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1545346]So are you going on Facebook, Craigslist or what for your selections?[/QUOTE]I use Facebook. Haven't tried Craigslist in Colombia. May venture into prepago websites next trip.

People tend to forget the ultimate value of facebook: keeping in contact with your favs. It's the best way to stay in the loop with them because shit changes often with these chicas (pregnancy, marriage, turning full-blown lesbian, gaining weight, etc.). Intel you would normally not be privy to by only Skype calling and email.

I've had some favs I've witnessed recently go through such "life changes", which has caused me to re-shuffle my stack for next trip.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1545355]How can it be DNA verified if the baby hasn't been born yet? Or did you mean HAD instead of HAVING?[/QUOTE]Hmmm, he said the baby was due in July, a girl.

Said he was verified to be the daddy by DNA.

I know nothing about how or when these tests are valid or administered.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1545363]Hmmm, he said the baby was due in July, a girl.

Said he was verified to be the daddy by DNA.

I know nothing about how or when these tests are valid or administered.[/QUOTE]•Non-Invasive Prenatal Paternity (NIPP) : A non-invasive prenatal paternity test is the most accurate non-invasive way to establish paternity before the baby is born. The process is state-of-the-art, combining the latest technology and proprietary methods of preserving and analyzing the baby's DNA found naturally in the mother's bloodstream. This test requires only a simple blood collection from the mother and alleged father and can be performed any time after the 8th week of pregnancy. The test is 99. 8% accurate. [url]http://americanpregnancy.org/prenataltesting/paternitytesting.html[/url]

•Non-Invasive Prenatal Paternity (NIPP) : A non-invasive prenatal paternity test is the most accurate non-invasive way to establish paternity before the baby is born. The process is state-of-the-art, combining the latest technology and proprietary methods of preserving and analyzing the baby's DNA found naturally in the mother's bloodstream. This test requires only a simple blood collection from the mother and alleged father and can be performed any time after the 8th week of pregnancy. The test is 99. 8% accurate. [url]http://americanpregnancy.org/prenata.tytesting.html[/url]

Guess that clears that up!

Thanks amigo!

I am not interested in an apartment. I am looking for an upscale hotel in Poblado that does not have a chica fee. From my experiences in Bogota, the fanciest hotels allow guests for free as long as they have an ID. Does anyone know of similar places in Medellin / Poblado area.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1545358]I use Facebook. Haven't tried Craigslist in Colombia. May venture into prepago websites next trip.

People tend to forget the ultimate value of facebook: keeping in contact with your favs. It's the best way to stay in the loop with them because shit changes often with these chicas (pregnancy, marriage, turning full-blown lesbian, gaining weight, etc.). Intel you would normally not be privy to by only Skype calling and email.

I've had some favs I've witnessed recently go through such "life changes", which has caused me to re-shuffle my stack for next trip.[/QUOTE]I use FB also, one of the added benefits about having FB contact with chicas is these girls are notorious for losing their phones and phone numbers, if she is a FB friend you can still find her. About 5 years ago I lost my DR phone and along with it all my DR contacts, years of work down the drain.

Who is the daddy?

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1545077]Good news, the titties are getting bigger, Bad news, the stomach is getting bigger[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PeterSmith; 1545576]I am not interested in an apartment. I am looking for an upscale hotel in Poblado that does not have a chica fee. From my experiences in Bogota, the fanciest hotels allow guests for free as long as they have an I'd. Does anyone know of similar places in

Medellin / Poblado area.[/QUOTE]Then don't ask a owner of 12 apt for rent that question in a PM.

It be like me asking you how do I hire your competition.

Try checking San Fernando Plaza hotel.

[QUOTE=DmeHcg; 1543124]I'll be honest not much of a religious person besides knowing the usual solid dates to certain obvious holidays I really don't pay attention. I had booked it a couple of months back and I just realized today the mistake I made. I get there Friday afternoon so I'm hoping shouldn't be too bad. I'm open for any ideas or suggestions from anyone that lives there or has been there during that time. I'm down for anything even if it's a watering hole and just people watch. Don't want to go to sit in a room and stare at wall or sit in watching TV. If nobody has ideas I'll figure it out, I always do!

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]I'll be there when you are there. Like you, I did not look at the calendar before I made reservations. I have many Facebook friends, so I don't think it will be a problem having companionship. I usually go to Hooter's for 2 or 3 beers early in the evening. I hope they will be open all the days of Semana Santa. I'm an old fart, balding with reddish-gray hair, and I will be sitting at the bar. Stop by and say hello if you are in the area.

[url]http://colombiareports.co/forced-disappearances-20-2012-medellin-ombudsman/[/url]

"In 2013 654 people were reported disappeared in Medellin, compared with 521 in 2012. * The bodies of 32 of the disappeared found in 2013 able the 17 bodies found in 2012."

[QUOTE=Jinxx; 1545868][url]http://colombiareports.co/forced-disappearances-20-2012-medellin-ombudsman/[/url]

"In 2013 654 people were reported disappeared in Medellin, compared with 521 in 2012. * The bodies of 32 of the disappeared found in 2013 able the 17 bodies found in 2012."[/QUOTE]Let's not conflate gringo safety issues with forced displacement. No one is going to knock on your door at the Mansion and offer you the silver or the lead LOL.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1545880]Let's not conflate gringo safety issues with forced displacement. No one is going to knock on your door at the Mansion and offer you the silver or the lead LOL.[/QUOTE]You're probably right, but it's still important to keep in mind that Medellin still has extremely high crime and murder rates. Especially for the guys who wander off the beaten path. Medellin cops don't seem to be doing a sensational job at keeping people alive. Don't forget it was only about a year ago the armed robbery at a hostel in poblado where a gringo was shot and killed.

Maybe I should've posted this in the security in Colombia section. Sorry about that.

[QUOTE=Jinxx; 1545924]You're probably right, but it's still important to keep in mind that Medellin still has extremely high crime and murder rates. Especially for the guys who wander off the beaten path. Medellin cops don't seem to be doing a sensational job at keeping people alive. Don't forget it was only about a year ago the armed robbery at a hostel in poblado where a gringo was shot and killed.

Maybe I should've posted this in the security in Colombia section. Sorry about that.[/QUOTE]I really don't like the spread of ignorance. Any due diligence shows quickly that the only real issue Colombia currently has are some rogue elements of FARQ- FARQ themselves, who are one of the major players historically have signed a treaty rejecting kidnapping, overall seem to be adhering to it. Medellin is a city of 2.5 million, and as such it is an inherently dangerous place. If you are to be abducted in Medellin or elsewhere in Colombia the overwhelming odds are that it would be if you were backpacking in the woods, especially in the largely uninhabited area of the NW, where FARQ is strong. If they get you in Medellin, they're probably just going to slit your throat and pick your pockets like any other major city and dump your stupid ass in an alley somewhere convenient, if that. That being said, yes, Medellin is dangerous and even Colombians recognize this. They have an addage,"dar papaya" which essentially refers to "don't be the only papaya within reach". If you're low hanging fruit, you'll get picked. Here's a list of the 50 most dangerous cities in the world, based on murder per capita, including America cities. [url]http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-violent-cities-in-the-world-2013-11?op=1[/url]

Stop perpetuating this perception that Medellin is somehow still as dangerous as it was twenty years ago. It's made progress we could only hope Detroit, St. Louis or Baltimore might emulate, not to mention Mexico. You're in a big city in a foreign land that is not protected by the US Constitution. Act like it and you'll be fine. Show some respect. Don't get shitfaced. Don't be stupid. Have a good time.

[QUOTE=Jinxx; 1545868][url]http://colombiareports.co/forced-disappearances-20-2012-medellin-ombudsman/[/url]

"In 2013 654 people were reported disappeared in Medellin, compared with 521 in 2012. * The bodies of 32 of the disappeared found in 2013 able the 17 bodies found in 2012."[/QUOTE]To put things in perspective, here are the cities with the highest murder rates in the US. (2012 stats)

Number of murders per 100,000 population:

Flint, MI 64. 9.

Detroit 54. 6.

New Orleans 52. 5.

St. Louis, MO 35. 5.

Baltimore 35.

Newark, NJ 33. 1.

Oakland, CA 33. 1.

Baton Rouge 28. 9.

Cleveland 24. 6.

Memphis 24. 1.

The population of the city of Medellin, not including surrounding cities, in 2013 was 2.4 million. If we say that all 654 people who disappeared were murdered, that is 27.25 murders per 100,000 population. Eight large cities in the US have a higher murder rate than Medellin, some much higher.

[QUOTE=Fun Luvr; 1545955]To put things in perspective, here are the cities with the highest murder rates in the US. (2012 stats)

Number of murders per 100, 000 population:

Flint, MI 64. 9.

Detroit 54. 6.

New Orleans 52. 5.

St. Louis, MO 35. 5.

Baltimore 35.

Newark, NJ 33. 1.

Oakland, CA 33. 1.

Baton Rouge 28. 9.

Cleveland 24. 6.

Memphis 24. 1.

The population of the city of Medellin, not including surrounding cities, in 2013 was 2. 4 million. If we say that all 654 people who disappeared were murdered, that is 27. 25 murders per 100, 000 population. Eight large cities in the US have a higher murder rate than Medellin, some much higher.[/QUOTE]As much as I abhor ignorance, I appreciate intelligence. Well said.

MS

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy; 1545933]. Here's a list of the 50 most dangerous cities in the world, based on murder per capita, including America cities.

[url]http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-violent-cities-in-the-world-2013-11?op=1[/url][/QUOTE]I was surprised to see Santa Marta on that list, but even more surprised not to see any cities from the middle east or Africa.

[QUOTE=Fun Luvr; 1545955]To put things in perspective, here are the cities with the highest murder rates in the US.

Eight large cities in the US have a higher murder rate than Medellin, some much higher.[/QUOTE]You lost me, how does this "put things in perspective"?

[QUOTE=Jinxx; 1545924]You're probably right, but it's still important to keep in mind that Medellin still has extremely high crime and murder rates. Especially for the guys who wander off the beaten path. Medellin cops don't seem to be doing a sensational job at keeping people alive. Don't forget it was only about a year ago the armed robbery at a hostel in poblado where a gringo was shot and killed.

Maybe I should've posted this in the security in Colombia section. Sorry about that.[/QUOTE]Just recently in Medellin. I feel much safer in El Poblado walking alone past midnite than I did in parts of Brooklyn when I lived in NYC. I recall 2 incidents in Brooklyn. 1) the worst-this chick I know was followed and cornered going to the train got robbed of her Iphone at gunpoint. (2) I let a friend out of my car to get something to drink at a store-he got haraseed by 5 people just because he looked different than what those assholes liked. May I say both were minding their own business and not so called acting stupid. Surprised New York did, nt make it to that top dangerous in the US list! I cannot speak for all of Medellin since I was in 1 area, but I would prefer El Poblado over Brooklyn anytime!

Was anyone here planning to vacation in Flint or Little Rock though?

And if you took a look at all Colombian cities, you'd find places like Buenaventura that at one point had triple the murder rate that Flint does there.

There is plenty of danger in Colombia but it's mostly something for locals to be concerned about. In big cities you seldom see mass violence or public violence, though there is the odd explosion or two and sometimes protests will have you breathing tear gas (especially near the fucking U de A LOL).

Santa Marta is a prime example. As a foreigner, you will stay in El Rodadero or some decently protected part of the Centro. As a local, you will be in a slum or up a damn steep hill somewhere that the authorities can barely even access. As a tourist you have nothing to fear other than a taxi accident or drowning. As a local, your life is cheap as fuck.

It is the same thing in Medellin. You can stay in any number of well-patrolled, well-maintained barrios. Even the parts of the Centro where you'd actually stay are much safer than most think. You are not going to stay in a place where there is an absence of government services, where de facto paramilitaries run the streets and where a cop car or an ambulance couldn't get there even if they wanted to. Your main concern as a tourist is petty crime and even then the girls you are fucking should be infinitely more worried than you are. If you leave your stuff out, it'll get taken, otherwise these little dipshits will look for an easy mark who blends into the crowd (e. G. A Colombian woman than a foreign man).

I don't understand the emphasis on the FARC. As if that is all anyone has to worry about. That hasn't been the biggest concern in Colombia for years. I think the lingering paramilitaries create much more tension and danger for locals. You also have a lot of outright thieving, most of which is less organized and less logical. There are plenty of people in the drug trade just for the money, too, and there's plenty of blood in Colombia's dope game. Corners get taken here the same way they do in Baltimore, but there are a lot more corners.

All that said, from having lived in shitty areas in various parts of the world, I can say that not many people get killed for nothing. You might get killed over something very small or trivial, yes, but over nothing? No way, and definitely not as a tourist. As long as there is not a return to the explosiveness of the 20th century (from about 1918 to 1998 let's say) , you don't have to sweat crime stats in Colombia IMO. They can fluctuate, get cooked and even increase sharply without it being a huge threat to a tourist. One tip though, travel by plane whenever possible. Many bus routes are not very safe.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy; 1545933]I really don't like the spread of ignorance. Any due diligence shows quickly that the only real issue Colombia currently has are some rogue elements of FARQ- FARQ themselves, who are one of the major players historically have signed a treaty rejecting kidnapping, overall seem to be adhering to it. Medellin is a city of 2. 5 million, and as such it is an inherently dangerous place. If you are to be abducted in Medellin or elsewhere in Colombia the overwhelming odds are that it would be if you were backpacking in the woods, especially in the largely uninhabited area of the NW, where FARQ is strong. If they get you in Medellin, they're probably just going to slit your throat and pick your pockets like any other major city and dump your stupid ass in an alley somewhere convenient, if that. That being said, yes, Medellin is dangerous and even Colombians recognize this. They have an addage,"dar papaya" which essentially refers to "don't be the only papaya within reach". If you're low hanging fruit, you'll get picked. Here's a list of the 50 most dangerous cities in the world, based on murder per capita, including America cities.

[url]http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-violent-cities-in-the-world-2013-11?op=1[/url]

Stop perpetuating this perception that Medellin is somehow still as dangerous as it was twenty years ago. It's made progress we could only hope Detroit, St. Louis or Baltimore might emulate, not to mention Mexico. You're in a big city in a foreign land that is not protected by the US Constitution. Act like it and you'll be fine. Show some respect. Don't get shitfaced. Don't be stupid. Have a good time.[/QUOTE]You seem like quite the expert on Medellin, how long have you lived there? How many times have you visited?

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1546199]Was anyone here planning to vacation in Flint or Little Rock though?

And if you took a look at all Colombian cities, you'd find places like Buenaventura that at one point had triple the murder rate that Flint does there.

There is plenty of danger in Colombia but it's mostly something for locals to be concerned about. In big cities you seldom see mass violence or public violence, though there is the odd explosion or two and sometimes protests will have you breathing tear gas (especially near the fucking U de A LOL).

Santa Marta is a prime example. As a foreigner, you will stay in El Rodadero or some decently protected part of the Centro. As a local, you will be in a slum or up a damn steep hill somewhere that the authorities can barely even access. As a tourist you have nothing to fear other than a taxi accident or drowning. As a local, your life is cheap as fuck..[/QUOTE]Bravo. Well spoken. FWIW, I only mentioned FARQ because they had stopped kidnapping by and large. There's still some vestiges in the NW, but in general they've essentially assimilated into the political landscape. Your assessment of the cities and especially tourist / local concerns are spot on.

[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1546036]You lost me, how does this "put things in perspective"?[/QUOTE]If you don't follow him it doesn't mean his point is neither valid nor accessible- it simply means you don't get it.

[QUOTE=Fun Luvr;1545955]The population of the city of Medellin, not including surrounding cities, in 2013 was 2. 4 million. If we say that all 654 people who disappeared were murdered, that is 27. 25 murders per 100, 000 population. Eight large cities in the US have a higher murder rate than Medellin, some much higher.[/QUOTE]You're comparing apples and oranges. The number of people disappeared and the number of murders are not directly related. They are separate statistics, at least until the disappeared turns up dead. Medellin's murder rate is about 49. 10 per 100,000 for 2013.

[QUOTE=Jinxx; 1545924]You're probably right, but it's still important to keep in mind that Medellin still has extremely high crime and murder rates. Especially for the guys who wander off the beaten path. Medellin cops don't seem to be doing a sensational job at keeping people alive. Don't forget it was only about a year ago the armed robbery at a hostel in poblado where a gringo was shot and killed.

Maybe I should've posted this in the security in Colombia section. Sorry about that.[/QUOTE]But the point that some other posters are trying to make is that the beaten path is REALLY off the beaten path, and that numbers can be deceiving. Telling people to be careful in Poblado because of the overall murder rate in Medellin, is like telling people to be careful in Beverly Hills because of the overall murder rate in LA. It's misleading.

I went on the Pablo Escobar tour, which took us to an area of Centro where all the poor / indigent hung out, hooked on that super cheap byproduct of cocaine production that screws you like crystal meth. It was bad. But it was FAR away. And of course, you have to realize that in any city, that some of the areas for P4P are going to be in dodgy areas of the city. Going there is the choice that you make. It's also why places like SXM look so good.

The era of huge bloody narco drug wars spilling into the public in Medellin are over. Most of the drug traffic has moved to Mexico, and even that guy got recently busted.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1546236]I went on the Pablo Escobar tour, which took us to an area of Centro where all the poor / indigent hung out, hooked on that super cheap byproduct of cocaine production that screws you like crystal meth. It was bad.[/QUOTE]
Manny you are 100% right.
PS: You mean there is people making money just for taking people to see poors like in a zoo? That's frankly horrible.
I did my walk there in the Centro two days ago around 1am and I did not pay anyone.
"No dar papaya" perfectly expresses the situation.

Hello gents,

I guess the debate over real boobs vs fake boobs could fill an entire section on it's own.

I think real boobs of good proportion are always a plus to go along with a beautiful face. But what if the beautiful face is a bit lacking in the bra section? And with enhancements so readily available, who can blame a gal for wanting some extra padding on top?

So gents, what is the consensus of a gal who has average tits, boosting up a cup size or so? Would you prefer she keep her natural shape? The look may be enhanced while in clothing but what about the look and feel once the top is dropped?

Then of course there are those lucky few that have the right size top & bottom. Oh my how they can be fun to play with. Grant it though that if they are larger than a handful, you may be risking a sprained thumb!

I submit to you gents a couple of lovely's (one with real and one with fake) that I had the pleasure of enjoying a few weeks ago in Cali and Medellin.

Stay horny my friends,

Cubanut

'Bomb blast in Medellin kills 4, injuries 14"

[url]http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=208267[/url]

Oh yea don't worry, Medellin's perfectly safe. Absolutely nothing to worry about.

I think this happened in el centro.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1546210]If you don't follow him it doesn't mean his point is neither valid nor accessible- it simply means you don't get it.[/QUOTE]That's a quadruple negative or a quad in poker. I get it, fold.

[QUOTE=Jinxx; 1546312]'Bomb blast in Medellin kills 4, injuries 14"

[url]http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=208267[/url]

Oh yea don't worry, Medellin's perfectly safe. Absolutely nothing to worry about.

I think this happened in el centro.[/QUOTE]"I think"? Famous last words.

[url]http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/specials/boston-marathon-explosions[/url]

[QUOTE=Jinxx; 1546312]'Bomb blast in Medellin kills 4, injuries 14"
[url]http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=208267[/url]
Oh yea don't worry, Medellin's perfectly safe. Absolutely nothing to worry about.
I think this happened in el centro.[/QUOTE]
Personally I feel that the number of foreigner tourists in Medellin is already too high. I don't like to see so many gringo faces in Poblado, often accompanied by beautiful girls. Yesterday I have seen a Japanese or Korean with his wife and small baby. And, worst of all, today on the Ciclovia I crossed 4 INDIANS (yes, from India!). Wait few years, and the place will be spoiled.
I am NOT going to spend a single word to explain that Medellin is safer than Detroit, or that Poblado is safe like Shanghai, to change the mind of anyone convinced that Medellin is dangerous. To everyone its own. Especially, I don't see the point to attract people of Shanghai to Medellin.

PS:
[URL]http://www.elmundo.com/portal/noticias/antioquia/explota_petardo_en_el_centro_de_medellin.php[/URL]
The explosion injured or killed poor homeless people in a rehab center in the early hours of the morning. It's highely unlikely that anyone reading this may be in that place on that time.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1546210]If you don't follow him it doesn't mean his point is neither valid nor accessible- it simply means you don't get it.[/QUOTE]Sooooooo Manny how many times have you been there?

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate[/url]

The El Mundo page doesn't load up. Can somebody please tell me where exactly the bomb was detonated? I am dying to know.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1546380]The El Mundo page doesn't load up. Can somebody please tell me where exactly the bomb was detonated? I am dying to know.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Bomb blast in Medellin kills 4, injuries 14.

Mar 23, 2014.

BOGOTA, March 22 (Xinhua). Colombia's police director Rodolfo Palomino confirmed on Saturday that a bomb blast killed four people, and injured other 14, outside a homeless shelter and drug rehabilitation center of the country's northeastern Medellin city.

Palomino condemned the attack, where six policemen are among the inured, and offered a reward of 20 million Colombian pesos (10, 000 USA dollars) to anyone who provides information leading to the capture of those held responsible for the attack, Colombia's Caracol Radio network reported.

Deputy Mayor of Medellin, Luis Fernando Suarez, reported that a homeless man was carrying the explosives in a bag that was activated by phone.

"It exploded at the door and he died in that place, other three died in hospitals in Medellin and it also left six policemen injured and others wounded," Suarez said.

Suarez said that the attack was directed against the actions carried out by the Mayor's office and the Metropolitan Police of Medellin to crack down on the use of drugs among homeless people.

The official claimed those behind the attack are drug dealers who oppose the new program for the homeless who are consuming drugs to receive medical and psychological treatment in the center, among others.

The Mayor office of Medellin had strengthened the program two months ago in cooperation with the police, authorities in charge of transporting the people living in the street to these shelters.

[QUOTE=Questner; 1546384]Bomb blast in Medellin kills 4, injuries 14.

Mar 23, 2014.

BOGOTA, March 22 (Xinhua). Colombia's police director Rodolfo Palomino confirmed on Saturday that a bomb blast killed four people, and injured other 14, outside a homeless shelter and drug rehabilitation center of the country's northeastern Medellin city.

Palomino condemned the attack, where six policemen are among the inured, and offered a reward of 20 million Colombian pesos (10, 000 USA dollars) to anyone who provides information leading to the capture of those held responsible for the attack, Colombia's Caracol Radio network reported.

Deputy Mayor of Medellin, Luis Fernando Suarez, reported that a homeless man was carrying the explosives in a bag that was activated by phone.

"It exploded at the door and he died in that place, other three died in hospitals in Medellin and it also left six policemen injured and others wounded," Suarez said.

Suarez said that the attack was directed against the actions carried out by the Mayor's office and the Metropolitan Police of Medellin to crack down on the use of drugs among homeless people.

The official claimed those behind the attack are drug dealers who oppose the new program for the homeless who are consuming drugs to receive medical and psychological treatment in the center, among others.

The Mayor office of Medellin had strengthened the program two months ago in cooperation with the police, authorities in charge of transporting the people living in the street to these shelters.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I've already seen this online. I was asking if anyone knew the exact location of where it happened like a carerra or avenue. As someone who goes to MDE I'd like to know if I've been in that area.

Thanks Again.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1546387]Thanks. I've already seen this online. I was asking if anyone knew the exact location of where it happened like a carerra or avenue. As someone who goes to MDE I'd like to know if I've been in that area.

Thanks Again.[/QUOTE]The article I linked (which you must be able to see) says only that it is on De Greiff, that is, yes you have been nearby, but not at 4am, I assume.

Hello Gents,

It's unfortunate that any loss of life takes place anywhere in the world. But just as the newspapers and tv news has a place for breaking news and ongoing investigations, I believe this matter and any like it should likewise be put in place.

Upon saying that, I do want to say that the blast that occurred in the Avenue De Greiff followed after a riot that occured in the same area on Thursday March 21st. It seem the Mayor has had the police rounding up the homeless in El Centro in attempt to rid them of the streets.

[url]http://www.elespectador.com/noticias/nacional/habitantes-de-calle-medellin-protagonizaron-disturbios-articulo-482335[/url]

This picture link below shows the corner street name. I can make out Carrera 11 but the Calle is not clear, looks like a 5, 6 or 8. But that should pretty much narrow down where this occurred in the De Greiff area.

[url]http://www.google.com/hostednews/epa/slideshow/ALeqM5jTA5YCjPCLc26dJt9EY4GNHPYSYw?hl=es&docId=2271869&index=0[/url]

Also, this article below has 2 pictures of the taped off area. Maybe someone can identify the area.

[url]http://www.elcolombiano.com/BancoConocimiento/E/explosion_en_el_centro_de_medellin_deja_tres_habitantes_de_calle_muertos/explosion_en_el_centro_de_medellin_deja_tres_habitantes_de_calle_muertos.asp[/url]

[QUOTE=Black Page;1546403]The article I linked (which you must be able to see) says only that it is on De Greiff, that is, yes you have been nearby, but not at 4am, I assume.[/QUOTE]De Grieff is definitely my hood. If you find out anything else please let us know. Thanks.

The centro is a huge drug den if this goes on longer there could be several more repercussions. Just look what happened when they tried to oust the street vendors.

Yes I see the link now. It wasn't loading earlier.

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1546293]Hello gents,

I submit to you gents a couple of lovely's (one with real and one with fake) that I had the pleasure of enjoying a few weeks ago in Cali and Medellin.

Stay horny my friends,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Cubanut,

One has to look at the bright side of things. As you might remember I prefer the original equipment but the one with the add ons sure has a beautiful looking body. Tall lanky look. I'll take both. Glad to see you traveling and posting pictures. Greetings from Ho Chi Minh City.

FN

[QUOTE=Hanshin Baka;1546344]So Manny, how many times have you been there?[/QUOTE]Simply sticking one's hand up a horses ass doesn't make one a veterinarian.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1546483]Simply sticking one's hand up a horses ass doesn't make one a veterinarian.[/QUOTE]You've been in Medellin once. You quote Paisas, Medellin Paisa and offer advice like you were born in el centro. To say that Medellin is not dangerous is a joke. Yes, generally if you stay in poblado you'll be fine but its a false sense of security. The price of human life is less than 3k. There is no 911 and goid luck getting help in the hillside barrios at night. I am sure in your single visit you were able to see everything and probably could offer advice to colombians.

No doubt Medellin is overall still a pretty dangerous city, but how many of us are going into the hillside barrios at night? Most guys just hang out in Poblado, which is generally quite safe. They may not get a taste of the "real Medellin," but I don't think they care!

[QUOTE=Hanshin Baka;1546791]You've been in Medellin once. You quote Paisas, Medellin Paisa and offer advice like you were born in el centro. To say that Medellin is not dangerous is a joke. Yes, generally if you stay in poblado you'll be fine but its a false sense of security. The price of human life is less than 3k. There is no 911 and goid luck getting help in the hillside barrios at night. I am sure in your single visit you were able to see everything and probably could offer advice to colombians.[/QUOTE]

Medellin comes in at # 14 [url]http://www.businessinsider.com/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-2012-10?op=1[/url]

[QUOTE=Vmonger;1546214]You're comparing apples and oranges. The number of people disappeared and the number of murders are not directly related. They are separate statistics, at least until the disappeared turns up dead. Medellin's murder rate is about 49. 10 per 100,000 for 2013.[/QUOTE]This another thing, disappearance and displacement. If you watch The Wire you probably remember where they asked "how do you make a murder disappear?" Well that is exactly what is happening in many places. And real displacement (not death) is also a huge issue. Again though, these are extremely unlikely to happen to a tourist or a person of any wealth.

I heard the bomb blast and there was a small explosion in a park a couple weeks ago (no one was hurt, not sure what happened exactly). There has been some violence related to the paros at the University also. The whole way the campuses are governed is fucked here, really. My girlfriend was a student at U de A, she is trying hard to transfer to la Nacional or, failing that, she got into a private university. The place is just a disaster. Again though these are not things that are likely to affect a visitor.

As a visitor you're getting the surface level, maybe one or two below that if you really hang around. Keep your eyes open but there's no need for paranoia or doubt about coming.

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1546293]Hello gents,

I guess the debate over real boobs vs fake boobs could fill an entire section on it's own.

I think real boobs of good proportion are always a plus to go along with a beautiful face. But what if the beautiful face is a bit lacking in the bra section? And with enhancements so readily available, who can blame a gal for wanting some extra padding on top?

So gents, what is the consensus of a gal who has average tits, boosting up a cup size or so? Would you prefer she keep her natural shape? The look may be enhanced while in clothing but what about the look and feel once the top is dropped?

Then of course there are those lucky few that have the right size top & bottom. Oh my how they can be fun to play with. Grant it though that if they are larger than a handful, you may be risking a sprained thumb!

I submit to you gents a couple of lovely's (one with real and one with fake) that I had the pleasure of enjoying a few weeks ago in Cali and Medellin.

Stay horny my friends,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Lots of things to consider besides boobs. But Yami's tits were nicer than the girl on the left even before she had surgery. Haven't seen them in person since the surgery.

[QUOTE=Cali Hentai;1546875]Lots of things to consider besides boobs. But Yami's tits were nicer than the girl on the left even before she had surgery. Haven't seen them in person since the surgery.[/QUOTE]I too, prefer naturals, but Yami is a perfect example "of things to consider besides boobs" She's a terrific person, and always up for some laughs.

[QUOTE=Combo;1546794]No doubt Medellin is overall still a pretty dangerous city, but how many of us are going into the hillside barrios at night? Most guys just hang out in Poblado, which is generally quite safe. They may not get a taste of the "real Medellin," but I don't think they care![/QUOTE]Medellin is a very DANGEROUS place!

Don't come. Stay home. Go to Costa Rica. Go back to the DR. Go to Thailand.

Much better there.

(Too many gringos in Colombia anyway) LOL

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1547045]Medellin is a very DANGEROUS place!

Don't come. Stay home. Go to Costa Rica. Go back to the DR. Go to Thailand.

Much better there.

(Too many gringos in Colombia anyway) LOL[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right, I totally agree, I came to here and did not ever want to go home again, yep "very dangerous"

The confusion is largely because of the usage of average, which is "mean" in statistical term.

Mean figure does not work for everything. it must be studied with a "range" or "variation."

There are some white and some black people in the US. But it does not mean that Americans in average are grey.

As for V crime rate or murder rate, a list of "districts" with high rate would be more proper than the list of "cities" with the same, since the VC rate is an average figure within a geographical unit.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1547059]You are absolutely right, I totally agree, I came to here and did not ever want to go home again, yep "very dangerous"[/QUOTE]There was a explosion in the city yesterday and I am hearing that Kidnap & Ransom is the thing. Plus you have gringos that where deported starting.

Gangs and even the woman are using extortion.

Going to Colombia for a week and thinking of spending a week or two in Medellin after talking with a few hotties on fb. However, most of them won't give me a price on beforehand and I'm still wondering what would be an ideal budget for the time I'll spend in Medellin. What are your thoughts on this? And. Is it ok to negotiate the price? I live in Calgary and that would be extremely irrespecutful towards the lady. Oh. And I'm Hispanic, so I guess that would help.

[QUOTE=Optic Guard; 1547439]There was a explosion in the city yesterday and I am hearing that Kidnap & Ransom is the thing. Plus you have gringos that where deported starting.

Gangs and even the woman are using extortion.[/QUOTE]I heard about girls using scopolamine to drug their new friends. A big smile, nice tits, and the man falls in her arms. Once put him at sleep, it's easy to dig into wallet etc. And leave him without anything.

This does not happen only with street girls. It happened also with prepagos from clubs!

I am scared now.

[QUOTE=DjLucky7;1547442]Going to Colombia for a week and thinking of spending a week or two in Medellin after talking with a few hotties on fb. However, most of them won't give me a price on beforehand and I'm still wondering what would be an ideal budget for the time I'll spend in Medellin. What are your thoughts on this? And. Is it ok to negotiate the price? I live in Calgary and that would be extremely irrespecutful towards the lady. Oh. And I'm Hispanic, so I guess that would help.[/QUOTE]I always lay out about $1000USD in pesos on the bed, Then just tell them take whatever you think is fair!

[QUOTE=DjLucky7;1547442]Going to Colombia for a week and thinking of spending a week or two in Medellin after talking with a few hotties on fb. However, most of them won't give me a price on beforehand and I'm still wondering what would be an ideal budget for the time I'll spend in Medellin. What are your thoughts on this? And. Is it ok to negotiate the price? I live in Calgary and that would be extremely irrespecutful towards the lady. Oh. And I'm Hispanic, so I guess that would help.[/QUOTE]In Medellin, if you are clean and respectful toward the ladies, give them 150K pesos plus one taxi fare (average 15-20K) for an hour or two. For longer times, including TLN 200K for the less popular ladies. I don't know the price for the most popular ladies since I haven't been with any of them for long terms. Also, gifts from Victoria Secret make a very favorable impression. One or two items are enough: body mists, lipstick, lotion, panties. I always give them an amount following the above guidelines, and only one has asked for more. I think that is just her nature, because I have never given her more, and she always comes back when I ask her, and still asks for more. For some strange reason, the ladies in the Liquid Lounge ask for 200K. The same ladies are happy with 150K outside LL. That was my LL experience last year, it may be different now.

[QUOTE=DjLucky7;1547442]Going to Colombia for a week and thinking of spending a week or two in Medellin after talking with a few hotties on fb. However, most of them won't give me a price on beforehand and I'm still wondering what would be an ideal budget for the time I'll spend in Medellin. What are your thoughts on this? And. Is it ok to negotiate the price? I live in Calgary and that would be extremely irrespecutful towards the lady. Oh. And I'm Hispanic, so I guess that would help.[/QUOTE]It depends on how you roll and who you roll around with.

I allow myself up to $125 a day after my hotel. Out of the $125 I had two sessions a day 2 meals plus snacks drinks 420 transportation. I never spent the whole amount. I came back $1000 under budget. That went towards my next trip ( this monday!).

I did casa girls and street girls. Zero issues with quality given that I could place my penis in a wet shoe box and get off.

Hotels in centro will run you up to $30 in the mid range. Others to be found well below this rate.

Since you speak spanish and I assume look it don't sweat being in centro.

If you start courting online chicas and try to woo them by taking them out your costs go up tremendously.

*** Get yourself a paid subscription to ISG. You'd be silly not to spend and extra $20 to better your trip. If you do join shoot me a pm. If not suffer !

It is already a week I am in this wonderful city. Lots of work, but also free time at night. Regrettably, the jet lag took longer to leave me this time. I come from Europe, and around 11pm (5am in my original place) I feel dizzy.

I was not able yet to spend my time with one of those real stunners, but I did not get bored. I don't have the time to write a long report, so I will give just some quick hint.

NIGHT 1

I feel literally dead. I have 23 hours travel on my shoulders and 6 hours of jet lag. My original plan was to go to Luna Lunera, or have a look at the famous (at least in this forum) Liquid Lounge, but feeling so sleepy would be just a waste of money.

After dinner, I go for a walk in the Centro, just to have a look and breath the insane atmosphere. I have a couple of beers at Maracaibo and Barra Executiva, but I don't see any decent girl attracting enough for me.

I decide to go exploring the street scene. I look at taxi drivers. I need one who looks brave enough. I see one who looks good: almost black, gold chain, big neck and shoulders, he seems a gangster. Perfect.

I ask him to take me to have a look at street girls all around the Centro and in San Diego. Lots of junkies, but ALSO some good ones, at times. It's like fishing. You never know. Just don't feel in a hurry.

After one hour, we finally spot a nice one, accompanied by a zombie breathing glue from the black bag. We leave the junkie and we take the other. She looks ok and her breath does not smell glue.

I originally planned to go to a hotel, but the story ends up more casually. The driver goes out the Centro along the autopista. I stay in the back and the girl sucks me. The driver enjoys the view. I offer a propina to the girl to allow the driver to touch her tits etc. All this, while he is driving along the autopista. I come in her mouth. The driver congratulates for the nice job. The girl sticks up the ass to show its well-shaped bums. The driver, still driving at 60 km / h, shows his appreciation by groping bums. All this for 40k (50k to the taxi, while the meter was showing 35k).
QUE LOCURA!!

I ask the driver to leave me not in front of my hotel. I need 10 mins walking to breath fresh air.

NIGHT 2

Today I feel better. I go to Luna Lunera. There is some good talent, but I really don't like those ultra-pros who approach me and ask me directly to drink something together. I stay on my own, sipping my drink.

Finally I spot a girl who smiles to me, but without moving. I go there and we drink something with her friend. Her friend looks much more experienced, that is what I don't like, but finally I agree to have a trio.

They ask 130k per girl per half-hour. After some conversation. 2x130k becomes for a relaxed 1 hour, with dances etc.

Hey, it was GREAT! They really do their best to please me. The "shy" one tells me in a hear it's her first time in a trio and be patient. True or not, she becomes progressively braver, till fingering her friend and kissing her boobs. Money well spent for 1 hour almost full, no hurry, relaxed souls, mutual enjoyment. They are NOT top models, but 100 times better than many sexy bombs. I add a tip.

NIGHT 3.

I worked till late today. I am dead. I am not able to do anything. Straight to my bed.

NIGHTS 4-5-6.

My amiguita comes to stay with me 3 nights from her deep province small city. I paid her flight. I met her 2 years ago, when she worked (hard) in CTG. We had since the first day a special feeling. I already invited her to MDE one year ago, and we really enjoyed. No money. Only regalos. In these two years, she went working again to CTG, and even in a club of Bogota. Now, not anymore. She is a quiet mummy with her daughter and mother.

She really changed. Not so aggressive as time ago. She is sweet and pampering.

I have not much to report here. Three days with a novia. What else would you like to know?

PS: one day, she tells me she would like to smoke some cripa. Ok, I don't smoke but I am liberal enough. We go to Parque del Periodista. Surprise! Police has cleaned up the place. She is very disappointed, but she does not know my resources. I take her directly to the street from Plaza Botero to the metro Prado. I know who sells there. An eyeblink and the chicos come around (stay away from such people at night! ladrones of 1st category) and set up the exchange: 5k for 5 cigarettes. I don't take part to the exchange (being involved in a drug affair is the last thing that I wish) , but I oversee the whole thing from 2 meters away, checking who is involved and what he's doing.

We go for a walk around. She is well endured in her life, but she is hurted by what is around there, the poor homeless, the junkies, anything. She claims that even the Bronx in Bogota does not look worse. I never visited the Bronx, so I cannot give my opinion.

NIGHT 7.

There is a reason why I did not succeed yet to have a model accompanying me at dinner. All I do is wrong, if that is the goal. To achieve that, I should not have invited my friend to MDE (3 nights gone for that) , have visited expensive clubs, having exchanged phone numbers. Having done all that, now I'd have some numbers to call, and some stunning girl to invite out for the night.

Instead, I am still sticking to borderline activities.

Tonight, I want to visit a swinger club. My friend told me she was interested to go there with me, but at the end we didn't. We behaved like a good couple of enamorados.

I go alone. All best nights (Wed-Sun) are couples-only. Today is Tuesday, nobody presumably out, but solteros are admitted, so I decide to give a try.

There are: 2 single men + me. 4 young couples (20yo or less, extremely pretty, who are there just for curiosity. Girls stay in their towels and spend the night chatting and playing silly.) , and a couple who is there to see what happens. He is ugly, but she is not. A perfect 100% regular normal lady.

When I see they enter the steam bath, I follow after a while. When she sees my big thing (oh, not so big) , she immediately grabs it and sucks it, under the happy supervision of her hubby. We also move to a room and we fuck 15 minutes (condoms available from the counter) , till the hubby dictates "stop". They return to their beer at the table. End of the game.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1547652]NIGHT 7.

There is a reason why I did not succeed yet to have a model accompanying me at dinner. All I do is wrong, if that is the goal. To achieve that, I should not have invited my friend to MDE (3 nights gone for that) , have visited expensive clubs, having exchanged phone numbers. Having done all that, now I'd have some numbers to call, and some stunning girl to invite out for the night.

Instead, I am still sticking to borderline activities.

Tonight, I want to visit a swinger club. My friend told me she was interested to go there with me, but at the end we didn't. We behaved like a good couple of enamorados.

I go alone. All best nights (Wed-Sun) are couples-only. Today is Tuesday, nobody presumably out, but solteros are admitted, so I decide to give a try.

There are: 2 single men + me. 4 young couples (20yo or less, extremely pretty, who are there just for curiosity. Girls stay in their towels and spend the night chatting and playing silly.) , and a couple who is there to see what happens. He is ugly, but she is not. A perfect 100% regular normal lady.

When I see they enter the steam bath, I follow after a while. When she sees my big thing (oh, not so big) , she immediately grabs it and sucks it, under the happy supervision of her hubby. We also move to a room and we fuck 15 minutes (condoms available from the counter) , till the hubby dictates "stop". They return to their beer at the table. End of the game.[/QUOTE]Great series of reports! PM me if you'd like- I'd like to talk more.

[QUOTE=Black Page;1547458]I heard about girls using scopolamine to drug their new friends. A big smile, nice tits, and the man falls in her arms. Once put him at sleep, it's easy to dig into wallet etc. And leave him without anything.This does not happen only with street girls. It happened also with prepagos from clubs! I am scared now.[/QUOTE]Researching that drug, I found the following.

Per the United States State Department (March 4, 2012) : "One common and particularly dangerous method that criminals use in order to rob a victim is through the use of drugs. The most common has been scopolamine. Unofficial estimates put the number of annual scopolamine incidents in Colombia at approximately 50, 000. Scopolamine can render a victim unconscious for 24 hours or more. In large doses, it can cause respiratory failure and death. It is most often administered in liquid or powder form in foods and beverages. The majority of these incidents occur in night clubs and bars, and usually men, perceived to be wealthy, are targeted by young, attractive women. To avoid becoming a victim of scopolamine, one should never accept food or beverages offered by strangers or new acquaintances or leave food or beverages unattended. Victims of scopolamine or other drugs should seek immediate medical attention."

[url]https://www.osac.gov/Pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=12118[/url] Colombia 2012 Crime and Safety Report: Cartagena

So just arrived in MDE yesterday afternoon, took the AA flight from Mia with no issues or delays. My buddy actually took the Spirit flight from FTL (as it was much cheaper) and he had no delays or issues either. We are staying in a super nice apartment en el Poblado (about 2 blocks from Parque Lleras) which we rented from Poblado Rentals. So for the past 3 weeks or so I have been trolling Facebook looking for chicks and had a very long list of chicks that I was interested in. The hardest part was just narrowing it down to which ones. Good thing is that I am here with my friend so basically I can sample two chicks at a time and can remember which ones are the good ones for the next trip. So, first night, sign onto facebook and have all of the girls posting that they want to come over. The plan is to have one set of chicas come by at 7ish and then we have another group set up for 1030 (I know, we are such dogs but what the hell). So, my chica comes over at around 7. Her name is Lina and she is super hot, great ass, pretty face. Although, I would say guys, unless you just want a hot chick and nothing else, stay away. So, she gets out of her cab and gives no hug or even a hello, just runs straight to the door. No problem, I just pay cab, go into the apt and say hello. I make a comment asking her for a hug and she just runs upstairs (red flag #1. No hug hello, WTF). So we are upstairs and I introduce her to my friend and let her know that his chica will be over in about 20 min or so. Anyways, we make her a drink of her choice (Patron) and she just kind of sits there sipping and on her phone (red flag #2). We both try our best to converse with her (I am fluent in Spanish) but it is going nowhere, she is just pretty cold with limited responses. Then she pops up, says that she needs to get milk to give to her sister who is watching her kid and says that she will be right back. (red flag #3) , at this point I tell my friend that she has got to go. She leaves her purse in the apartment and heads out. So basically at this point I am turned off and want nothing to do with her. The plan was to just tell her that I am not interested once she gets back and give her 50k for her time (she was in the apt for about 30 min). Now, I am sure that many of you will be saying "why the fuck did you pay her". However, it was our first night and the last thing that we need is her getting pissed and telling her novios who could always come back with trouble. So, she comes back, I tell her not interested, give her purse back and give her the 50K, she takes the money, says no problem and heads out. Doesn't seem to care at all. Anyways, she's gone and I get back onto FB to look for another chica. Funny thing is that I ask the girl who is coming over for my friend if she has any friends. Within about 5 minutes she sends me a picture of Lina! I tell her no thank you and end up calling another chick (Nata) who comes over within about 30 minutes (got to love this place!) So my friend has his chick over and I have mine, we chill and drink and dance for about an hour then off to have fun in the bedroom. My chick is great in bed, great attitude and I would rate her about a 6 or 7 overall (I have a really tough rating system). Overall though I would recommend her. My friend had a good time with his chick (Carolyne) as well (although I didn't think that she was all that hot). Oh, almost forgot to mention. As we were waiting for our chicks to come over some other chick rings our doorbell and my friend lets her in. Her name was Valerie and she was smoking hot. I run downstairs and pay for her cab. Get back up and look at her and say, wait you aren't the chick that we called. Turns out she showed up at the wrong apartmentt, we figured it out and we walked her upstairs to the place she was supposed to be. It was a bunch of guys from Toronto. Lucky fuckers, they picked a good one!

After our little romp we headed over to Basilica en Parque Lleras to meet up with our second group of chicas. Caro and some friend that she is bringing. We eat dinner, have some drinks and head back to the apt (must say though, these chicks ordered the most expensive thing on the menu and of course also want dessert. No worries on our part just wanted to mention it as an FYI). So, we go back to the apt. Proceed to drink some more. Although these chicks weren't really all that into partying with us. No biggie, head to the bedroom and finish up the night with a good romp. My buddy falls in love with his chica and gets her number. He will be calling her back, I won't be calling back mine.

Today, the plan is to meet some more chickies, and also do the metro cable. Will report back with tonights adventures.

[QUOTE=Bbond; 1547714]Researching that drug, I found the following.

[url]https://www.osac.gov/Pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=12118[/url]

Colombia 2012 Crime and Safety Report: Cartagena[/QUOTE]OH MY GOD! What hell is this place where I put my feet?

I strongly suggest anyone to follow strictly all advices and recommendations of the US Agencies and Depts about travelling overseas. Their crime alerts are always well pointed.

Folks,

I could not believe it, but I found an incredible hotel in the worst place. 1 block from Metro Prado. I went yesterday with a girl from Luna Lunera at 4am.

Motel Lafayette
Cr 50 #56-37.

I took the best room, large, round bed, love seat, jacuzzi, music, large LCD TV.
Only 37k for 5 hours!!
Considered the environment outside in the street (in the middle between TVs and junkies) , I was extremely skeptical. Once in the room, me and the girl said immediately together like one voice: "QUE CHIMBA!"

Ok guys. There is one more super hottie in need. (there is always somebody) I haven't had time to make a list since they don't want to share their FB page at ll. So collect pics and list requires a lot of time. If somebody is interested in numbers and description with no pics let me know. ALSO very very important! STOP asking the girls if they do sex WITH OUT protection! WTF is this shttt. Guys, please, take care of them and yourselves. Couple of guys have asked my girls about that shtt right straight. I won't promote this kind of unhealthy thing. You want some contacts I could help but please stop this madness. Other thing. Just ONE Guy have returned me the favor sharing some girls to me. Can you at least share your favorites to me as well. We are here to do favor to each other. I know a guy who bragged to have 1000 contacts and when I share my friend to him he just ignored me. Guys this a very selfish way to go. No more help if we don't help each other.

The girl I'm talking about is a solid 8. 5 maybe a 9 for someones who don't ask for huge titties, but need to be respectful and share something as well. Is not that I need it maybe. But we always want to try something new.

So who ever want to share send me pics and numbers as well. Many of you have my E mail. Good luck to the good people around.

By the way, Black Page; good reports.

[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1547984]Ok guys. There is one more super hottie in need. (there is always somebody) I haven't had time to make a list since they don't want to share their FB page at ll. So collect pics and list requires a lot of time. If somebody is interested in numbers and description with no pics let me know. ALSO very very important! STOP asking the girls if they do sex WITH OUT protection! WTF is this shttt. Guys, please, take care of them and yourselves. Couple of guys have asked my girls about that shtt right straight. I won't promote this kind of unhealthy thing. You want some contacts I could help but please stop this madness. Other thing. Just ONE Guy have returned me the favor sharing some girls to me. Can you at least share your favorites to me as well. We are here to do favor to each other. I know a guy who bragged to have 1000 contacts and when I share my friend to him he just ignored me. Guys this a very selfish way to go. No more help if we don't help each other.

The girl I'm talking about is a solid 8. 5 maybe a 9 for someones who don't ask for huge titties, but need to be respectful and share something as well. Is not that I need it maybe. But we always want to try something new.

So who ever want to share send me pics and numbers as well. Many of you have my E mail. Good luck to the good people around.

By the way, Black Page; good reports.[/QUOTE]Hey guys,

Have any of you guys been to Brazil? How are Colombian women in Bed? I am a season working girl monger (Been to DR, Brazil, Costa Rica, Philippines, etc.) and I'm planning a Trip to Colombia in August, How are the Colombian Girls when it comes to sex? The Reason why I ask is, Out of all the countries I have been to, Nothing Beats Brazilian Sex, and Brazilian Girls love sex and there like Pornstars in bed, Now I know Colombian Girls are very pretty! But if your like me and been around, After while you do not just get impressed by looks, Are the Colombian Girls Sex Machines? Or are they like hard Pro Dominican Girls in DR, that only care about the money?

Anything to watch out for when it comes to Colombian Women?

[QUOTE=Dealdo;1547984]By the way, Black Page; good reports.[/QUOTE]I am scared now. Too much crime and danger here. I will stay in my hotel room and exit only to go to my workplace. It's not worth the risk. No more reports. Sorry.

I have a photo of the room.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1547647]NIGHT 3.
....... We go to Parque del Periodista. Surprise! Police has cleaned up the place. She is very disappointed, but she does not know my resources. I take her directly to the street from Plaza Botero to the metro Prado. I know who sells there. An eyeblink and the chicos come around (stay away from such people at night! Ladrones of 1st category) and set up the exchange: 5k for 5 cigarettes. I don't take part to the exchange (being involved in a drug affair is the last thing that I wish) , but I oversee the whole thing from 2 meters away, checking who is involved and what he's doing.

........[/QUOTE]Great reports friend.

I am deeply saddened to see that police cleaned up Parque del Periodista. Oh no!

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1547917]OH MY GOD! What hell is this place where I put my feet?

I strongly suggest anyone to follow strictly all advices and recommendations of the US Agencies and Depts about travelling overseas. Their crime alerts are always well pointed.[/QUOTE]Read it carefully- this is a great resource, but not a cause of dire concern. Keep in mind one of the first statements in the brief- "Like all major cities."

Otherwise, great link- thanks for the infor, whoever posed it originally!

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1548021]Great reports friend.

I am deeply saddened to see that police cleaned up Parque del Periodista. Oh no![/QUOTE]You can still go to Metro Prado / Botero

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1548024]Read it carefully- this is a great resource, but not a cause of dire concern. Keep in mind one of the first statements in the brief- "Like all major cities."[/QUOTE]I was anticipating the date of my return ticket, but now I reconsider the whole issue and I feel a bit less shocked and scared. I will stay in MDE till the date planned originally.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler; 1548008]Hey ghuys,

Have any of you guys been to Brazil? How are Colombian women in Bed? I am a season working girl monger (Been to DR, Brazil, Costa Rica, Philippines, etc.) and I'm planning a Trip to Colombia in August, How are the Colombian Girls when it comes to sex? The Reason why I ask is, Out of all the countries I have been to, Nothing Beats Brazilian Sex, and Brazilian Girls love sex and there like Pornstars in bed, Now I know Colombian Girls are very pretty! But if your like me and been around, After while you do not just get impressed by looks, Are the Colombian Girls Sex Machines? Or are they like hard Pro Dominican Girls in DR, that only care about the money?

Anything to watch out for when it comes to Colombian Women?[/QUOTE]Colombia girls in general are REAL good in bed bro. Not that spoiled as DR girls. But to be honest NOTHING bits up Brazilians, in general are better. And looks is good also. Colombians are more soft in compare. But they are passionate and hot as well. You can find some Brazilian performance in Medellin no doubt about it but there are less than Brazil. That is just my experience. You won't see much of my Brazilian reports because I go to the Brazilian Forum but I have been there a lot.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler; 1548008]Hey ghuys,

Have any of you guys been to Brazil? How are Colombian women in Bed? I am a season working girl monger (Been to DR, Brazil, Costa Rica, Philippines, etc.) and I'm planning a Trip to Colombia in August, How are the Colombian Girls when it comes to sex? The Reason why I ask is, Out of all the countries I have been to, Nothing Beats Brazilian Sex, and Brazilian Girls love sex and there like Pornstars in bed, Now I know Colombian Girls are very pretty! But if your like me and been around, After while you do not just get impressed by looks, Are the Colombian Girls Sex Machines? Or are they like hard Pro Dominican Girls in DR, that only care about the money?

Anything to watch out for when it comes to Colombian Women?[/QUOTE]Nothing compares to Brasilian women in the performance area. They are the epitomy of "porn star experience." Having said that, I would give the edge to Colombianas as far as facial beauty.

[QUOTE=Dealdo;1548073]Colombia girls in general are REAL good in bed bro. Not that spoiled as DR girls. But to be honest NOTHING bits up Brazilians, in general are better. And looks is good also. Colombians are more soft in compare. But they are passionate and hot as well. You can find some Brazilian performance in Medellin no doubt about it but there are less than Brazil. That is just my experience. You won't see much of my Brazilian reports because I go to the Brazilian Forum but I have been there a lot.[/QUOTE]Ok Thanks, Well I will be staying at the Medellin (Mansion) already booked. Are the girls at the mansion usually attractive? High Quality 9, Dimes? Or just average? Also about Casa's Can you take a girl out of a casa? Or do you just slay them there? Is Facebook a better option?

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1548143]Ok Thanks, Well I will be staying at the Medellin (Mansion) already booked. Are the girls at the mansion usually attractive? High Quality 9, Dimes? Or just average? Also about Casa's Can you take a girl out of a casa? Or do you just slay them there? Is Facebook a better option?[/QUOTE]Mansion girls are usually average looking, eventually they have a couple stunners. But for some strange reason they don't last. A friend of mine told me is because they get caught by family or boyfriends. Another reason is because many dudes in Mansion think they are flat rate girls and these cuties ask for an extra 50k. So they just leave. Many reasons, bad treatment, too much sex environment etc. They come and go. Is always something new in the house though.

Casas girls usually are below average. You need to be very lucky to find an 8. But sometimes there are.

FB girls, well. You need time to collect this information. I don't think you have it now. Some people start talking to random girls and they hit the pot. But most of them just ignore you, even though they may work eventually, they want some references from you. Is been so many cases of freak people that they are very touchy in that aspect. Colombian girls are so volatile, you never ever will know when they are in a good or bad mood. They LOVE drama and they play the victim ALL the time. Is something we need to deal with. They won't change so we have to adapt. They think you are a psico if you call them twice waiting for them to visit you. Even though they are running couple hours late. Things like that.
And yes,, you can get a girl out of the casa.. but is better if you get her phone number and call her next day..

[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1548230]Mansion girls are usually average looking, eventually they have a couple stunners. But for some strange reason they don't last. A friend of mine told me is because they get caught by family or boyfriends. Another reason is because many dudes in Mansion think they are flat rate girls and these cuties ask for an extra 50k. So they just leave. Many reasons, bad treatment, too much sex environment etc. They come and go. Is always something new in the house though.

Casas girls usually are below average. You need to be very lucky to find an 8. But sometimes there are.

FB girls, well. You need time to collect this information. I don't think you have it now. Some people start talking to random girls and they hit the pot. But most of them just ignore you, even though they may work eventually, they want some references from you. Is been so many cases of freak people that they are very touchy in that aspect. Colombian girls are so volatile, you never ever will know when they are in a good or bad mood. They LOVE drama and they play the victim ALL the time. Is something we need to deal with. They won't change so we have to adapt. They think you are a psico if you call them twice waiting for them to visit you. Even though they are running couple hours late. Things like that.

And yes, you can get a girl out of the casa. But is better if you get her phone number and call her next day.[/QUOTE]Great short and sweet summary amigo!

On the money!

Colombianas and drama are synonymous! LOL


[QUOTE=Combo;1548090]Nothing compares to Brasilian women in the performance area. They are the epitomy of "porn star experience." Having said that, I would give the edge to Colombianas as far as facial beauty.[/QUOTE]

Have to agree with you cats here as well.
Hard to beat the beauty of a Colombiana, except maybe the Venezolana, ohhh what a great place that (Venezuela) was in the day, before it became loco like now.

However, the Brasilian girls, I agree with you guys.
Que sexo gostoso, as they say in Brazil.
IMO the best!!
Just so happens I'm heading back there today!!
Ooopa!!

[QUOTE=Dealdo;1548230]Casas girls usually are below average. You need to be very lucky to find an 8. But sometimes there are.[/QUOTE]Ok, so if Casas Girls and the Mansion girls are average. Where do you usually find the top quality beautiful Columbian Girls. Also do the average Columbian Girl like Gringo's, Can you approach a typical columbian girl and can I offer her pesos to come to my hotel?

NIGHT 8 (Wed)

I go to Luna Lunera. I feel quite lazy. After a few drinks paid to girls, I focus on one. It's late already, so we agree to meet outside half an hour later to skip the multa.

She innocently and smiling tells me "inside it's 170k one hour, outside you give me 300k". I say I will give 150k and it's much more than she can receive from LL, BUT we go to drink and dance first.
Listo.

We have one more beer at the barcito in front of LL (3am) , then we move to La 70 for another stop.

She is MUCH PRETTIER dressed normally than as a puta in LL. We also take photos and she enjoys it very much. She tells me she loves me and she wants to stay with me all time and not go to LL anymore. She calls her mama and I have to talk with her mama too. Her mama (imagine being waken up at 4am by the daughter) asks me if she is drunk. I reply "a little bit, but really not that much". Mama seems happier and tells me "cuidala porfa".
In verdad, she is not very drunk, but I realize she must have sniffed some powder before going out of LL.

At 4am we go the "Hotel Chimba" (see my previous report of yesterday for address and photo). The place is great. She tells me it's the first time she tries jacuzzi. It is not my first time, but definitely it has been a long time I am not in a jacuzzi with a nice girl sucking and pampering me.
At 6am we leave the place. I pay my 37k+3k tip to the girls at reception. I feel tired.

I have her number. I know I will be thinking to call her again before leaving, but probably I won't.
Before leaving, I pay her the 150k, but she asks tip extra 50k.
I tell her that this is too much, because she earns no more than 110k for 1 hour in LL, but I will give it to her anyway. Just I want she does not think I am pendejo and I don't know what is the real price.
She replies "Today 200, but tomorrow it can be free. I love you".

NIGHT 9 (Thu)

I am strolling at Pque Lleras after dinner, when I cross two young girls dressed sexy, but apparently lower level than girls you see there.
They come from Boston, I think a bad area (how bad?) and I understand went there to make some cash.

Listo. I change all my plans and we go to a nearby barcito for shots and cocktails. This bar is significantly poorer than fashion places in LLeras. They drink something like 4 shots each. 1 caipirinha for me (all spirits from anonymous bottles, who knows what I am drinking). The place is honest. At the end, for all this I pay 63k. Cheap! (but not good).

After a few "Que vamos a haaceer" y "Vaamos a tu hotel", I stick one hour dancing reggaeton etc. with them, thinking if it's a good idea to bring them to a hotel or not. My concern is NOT their sex performance. My concern is totally different: I did not plan ahead for a night in poor areas. I am dressed with Lacoste shirt (imagine) , I wear my watch, I have my colombian cheap phone AND my Galaxy S3. Estoy dando papaya like few others may do.

When I am still considering the situation, keeping my hands always close to pockets to check the wallet and phones, I see that the GalaxyS3 is not in my pocket anymore but it is in the hand of the girl who was dancing reggaeton with me. Now I know what to do. Imagine bringing them to a hotel room. They don't look bad, but I love my things.
I pay and I say bubye. See you next time.

(1am. The night is not over yet. Continue.)

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1548272]Ok, so if Casas Girls and the Mansion girls are average. Where do you usually find the top quality beautiful Columbian Girls. Also do the average Columbian Girl like Gringo's, Can you approach a typical columbian girl and can I offer her pesos to come to my hotel?[/QUOTE]Same exact Question I was going to ask. Where are the 10s! I mean looks and performance in Medellin. I know "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" but a chick who bascailly gets a lot of eye balls. Talking 10 with great attitude. Do they exsist or is it a Unicorn? I understand chemistry has a big part to play in this as well. Where do you have the best chance?

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1548372]Same exact Question I was going to ask. Where are the 10s! I mean looks and performance in Medellin. I know "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" but a chick who bascailly gets a lot of eye balls. Talking 10 with great attitude. Do they exsist or is it a Unicorn? I understand chemistry has a big part to play in this as well. Where do you have the best chance?[/QUOTE]There are more 10's per square inch in Medellin than anywhere else in the world.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1548372]Same exact Question I was going to ask. Where are the 10s! I mean looks and performance in Medellin. I know "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" but a chick who bascailly gets a lot of eye balls. Talking 10 with great attitude. Do they exsist or is it a Unicorn? I understand chemistry has a big part to play in this as well. Where do you have the best chance?[/QUOTE]A "10" in Colombia doesn't have to suck c**k for a living, she has a rich boyfriend or husband just like in the U.S..

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1548272]Ok, so if Casas Girls and the Mansion girls are average. Where do you usually find the top quality beautiful Columbian Girls. Also do the average Columbian Girl like Gringo's, Can you approach a typical columbian girl and can I offer her pesos to come to my hotel?[/QUOTE]First, it's spelled Col-o-mbia. To answer your question, you will find them in the same place that you would find them in your own country, they're not zoo animals for christsakes.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1548390]A "10" in Colombia doesn't have to suck c**k for a living, she has a rich boyfriend or husband just like in the U.S.[/QUOTE]She has a rich boyfriend or husband just like in India.

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[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1548272]Ok, so if Casas Girls and the Mansion girls are average. Where do you usually find the top quality beautiful Columbian Girls. Also do the average Columbian Girl like Gringo's, Can you approach a typical columbian girl and can I offer her pesos to come to my hotel?[/QUOTE]Generally, girls at the Mansion are certainly better than average, though there aren't many true stunners. Casa girls aren't generally the best, but if you stop by several places, you can find some diamonds amongst the dogs. I've seen some georgous girls in the casas, but it's pretty much a numbers game. If you don't feel like taking the time to look around, try the mid-range casas like Energy and Abydos. They, on average, have better-looking girls (and better facilities) than the low-cost Centro casas.

Please do not approach a non-pro Colombiana and offer her money point blank. You might get punched. We've already got a bad reputation in Medellin from shit like this and I hate to see it reinforced.

Between the Mansion, the casas, and the strip clubs, you will find something you like. There are some very hot women there.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1548272]Ok, so if Casas Girls and the Mansion girls are average. Where do you usually find the top quality beautiful Columbian Girls. Also do the average Columbian Girl like Gringo's, Can you approach a typical columbian girl and can I offer her pesos to come to my hotel?[/QUOTE]Do the people in Medellin like Gringos? Medellin is one of the most friendly cities on earth. Generally, the people are delightful. The conversation with most staxi drivers, for example, starts with a question: do you like Medellin? Within a few seconds of the well deserved enthusiastic "yes," you can see the pride when the Paisa comments on the climate, the friendly people, and the food. The second question is: do you like our women? Obvio, but then most Colombian men will brag on the beauty of the women here. The problem is not finding a beautiful girl. They are ubiquitous. Looking at the Gringas in the USA, most of them couldn't make the second team at a downtown casa. What I'm trying to say is that a 7 in Medellin would be a 9. 5 or 10 in Yankee land.

Treat them with respect. They willingly share their beautiful bodies with us. Even the question: "Can you approach a typical columbian girl and can I offer her pesos to come to my hotel?" indicates an very unproductive way of thinking for spending time in Medellin. Most of the Mansion girls and many casa sex workers are university students, but use their available asset. We all have needs that we can't meet by ourselves. Be respectful of these girls. And if you are, you will generally receive anything that you want.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler; 1548272]Where do you usually find the top quality beautiful Columbian Girls. Also do the average Columbian Girl like Gringo's.

, Can you approach a typical columbian girl and can I offer her pesos to come to my hotel?[/QUOTE]1) In Columbia, near the White House.

2) Try with plastic beeds.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1548434]Do the people in Medellin like Gringos? Medellin is one of the most friendly cities on earth. Generally, the people are delightful. The conversation with most staxi drivers, for example, starts with a question: do you like Medellin? Within a few seconds of the well deserved enthusiastic "yes," you can see the pride when the Paisa comments on the climate, the friendly people, and the food. The second question is: do you like our women? Obvio, but then most Colombian men will brag on the beauty of the women here. The problem is not finding a beautiful girl. They are ubiquitous. Looking at the Gringas in the USA, most of them couldn't make the second team at a downtown casa. What I'm trying to say is that a 7 in Medellin would be a 9. 5 or 10 in Yankee land.

Treat them with respect. They willingly share their beautiful bodies with us. Even the question: "Can you approach a typical columbian girl and can I offer her pesos to come to my hotel?" indicates an very unproductive way of thinking for spending time in Medellin. Most of the Mansion girls and many casa sex workers are university students, but use their available asset. We all have needs that we can't meet by ourselves. Be respectful of these girls. And if you are, you will generally receive anything that you want.[/QUOTE]I've traveled all over the world and never found people as friendly as in Medellin. There's something completely profound about being a fifty year old man and realizing this completely hot, late-twenties paisa is flirting with me. As to the dick who thinks he can throw "beeds" at the women in exchange for sex. Buy a blow up doll. With practice, you might find "her" quite gratifying. Or so I hear. We all take advantage of the exchange rates and economy, but it's something much more insidious to approach people from a different culture with the kind of contempt- or worse yet, utter ignorance- that this new poster is showing. I can share information that will help someone have a better time, but I can't teach someone integrity or how to respect another's dignity. This is why Americans have the reputation for being the assholes of the world- and well deserved.

Learn some Spanish. Read, read, read about the country, traveling. And the People. Learn a little and quit asking ignorant questions. Colombia and her people are the jewel of South America. You'd be much happier in the Dominican Republic. They're all about hustling for a buck, and you can throw beads at anyone you like. Or think about that blow up doll. The advances in plastics are quite advanced and damn near lifelike. Or so I've heard.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1548328]NIGHT 9 (Thu)

I am strolling at Pque Lleras after dinner, when I cross two young girls dressed sexy, but apparently lower level than girls you see there.

They come from Boston, I think a bad area (how bad?) and I understand went there to make some cash.

Listo. I change all my plans and we go to a nearby barcito for shots and cocktails. This bar is significantly poorer than fashion places in LLeras. They drink something like 4 shots each. 1 caipirinha for me (all spirits from anonymous bottles, who knows what I am drinking). The place is honest. At the end, for all this I pay 63k. Cheap! (but not good).

After a few "Que vamos a haaceer" why "Vaamos a tu hotel", I stick one hour dancing reggaeton etc. With them, thinking if it's a good idea to bring them to a hotel or not. My concern is NOT their sex performance. My concern is totally different: I did not plan ahead for a night in poor areas. I am dressed with Lacoste shirt (imagine) , I wear my watch, I have my colombian cheap phone AND my Galaxy S3. Estoy dando papaya like few others may do...[/QUOTE]It truly sucks the moment you realize that you are, in fact, a papaya. Been there, my friend. It happens to the best of us. Thanks for the story.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1548235]Great short and sweet summary amigo!

On the money!

Colombianas and drama are synonymous! LOL.

Have to agree with you cats here as well.

Hard to beat the beauty of a Colombiana, except maybe the Venezolana, ohhh what a great place that (Venezuela) was in the day, before it became loco like now.

However, the Brasilian girls, I agree with you guys.

Que sexo gostoso, as they say in Brazil.

IMO the best!

Just so happens I'm heading back there today!

Ooopa![/QUOTE]Good for you. I envy you soo much =) Brasil is my favorite destination for sure. Second would be Venezuela also. But as you said is madness to go there now.

Talking about Drama Queens, Colombianas get by far the first place crown. Couple examples. Talking on FB with a "prepago" witch she doesn't consider herself a prepago because she doesn't do it constantly. Just because I told her she was so gorgeous and I like her a lot she stared freaking out, she told me that maybe I was a obsessed and don't want to see me anymore hahahahaha I just laughed my belly out. They are so fcking weird. Another one after I fck her couple times Se told me that I was falling in love with her and she didn't want to see me anymore. Hahahaha just because I liked to have sex with her. So fcking dramatic and paranoid.

Some others are the opposite, they call and call and are all over you, We just don't know how they going to react. If you treat them good you are an 'Intense' like they fking say hahahhaa intense. That is something they always use for covering their freak up moody way. Mostly I make good freinds but there are some mess up girls here that a shrink would make a doctors degree. Too bad they are so fking hot! Can't live with out them. They make you wait, they do not show up, they get scare like a bambi, they fly away and then with out any notice they just come back more horney than ever and you just forget all their stupid paranoid opera.

[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1548594]Good for you. I envy you soo much =) Brasil is my favorite destination for sure. Second would be Venezuela also. But as you said is madness to go there now.

Talking about Drama Queens, Colombianas get by far the first place crown. Couple examples. Talking on FB with a "prepago" witch she doesn't consider herself a prepago because she doesn't do it constantly. Just because I told her she was so gorgeous and I like her a lot she stared freaking out, she told me that maybe I was a obsessed and don't want to see me anymore hahahahaha I just laughed my belly out. They are so fcking weird. Another one after I fck her couple times Se told me that I was falling in love with her and she didn't want to see me anymore. Hahahaha just because I liked to have sex with her. So fcking dramatic and paranoid.

Some others are the opposite, they call and call and are all over you, We just don't know how they going to react. If you treat them good you are an 'Intense' like they fking say hahahhaa intense. That is something they always use for covering their freak up moody way. Mostly I make good freinds but there are some mess up girls here that a shrink would make a doctors degree. Too bad they are so fking hot! Can't live with out them. They make you wait, they do not show up, they get scare like a bambi, they fly away and then with out any notice they just come back more horney than ever and you just forget all their stupid paranoid opera.[/QUOTE]I think you can take "Colombiana" out of the sentence and substitute your favorite nationality. It's not Colombianas in specific that are crazy, it's the entire sex. Some are just worse than others!

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy; 1548534]I can share information that will help someone have a better time, but I can't teach someone integrity or how to respect another's dignity. This is why Americans have the reputation for being the assholes of the world- and well deserved.[/QUOTE]Well, I've traveled the world as well, many times.

That's what I do.

Most extensively in Latin America, because that's what I prefer.

Though of course, I do agree with you about learning the language, the culture, etc and being respectful and dignified, I have to disagree with you that Americans have the reputation for being the assholes of the world.

Americans are generally well received and are generally good, respectful, generous people.

Sure in the world of mongering, some ass-hole gringos can give us all a black eye, and in the tourist world perhaps the big loud trailer park fatties can be rude and blacken an eye as well.

We are far from being the assholes of the world.

I won't get into pointing out other cultures, nations, etc nor point out a list of who are really the assholes of the world according to my observations as well as my local friends' observations.

I'll just say in general, the american guy is sought out and desired if he approaches correctly and is respectful.

Where I hang out in Brazil, away from the puta crowd, there are soooooo many girls who dream of an american boyfriend.

Also, of course I love Medellin just like the next guy, however, there are many other places, all over South and Central America just as friendly.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1548272]Where do you usually find the top quality beautiful Columbian Girls. Can you approach a typical columbian girl and can I offer her pesos to come to my hotel?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Black Page; 1548487]1) In Columbia, near the White House.

2) Try with plastic beeds.[/QUOTE]LOL. Seriously ForceSteeler, this ain't Sosua bro

Does anyone know where to get cigars in Medellin? I have recently given up cigarettes.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1548747]Does anyone know where to get cigars in Medellin? I have recently given up cigarettes.

Thanks[/QUOTE]La Cava Del Puro Carrera 38 No 10-26. Small walk-in humidor. Cubans are expensive. There must be a big tax to import them. But, the La Cava house brand of Colombian cigars are pretty damn good.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1548755]La Cava Del Puro Carrera 38 No 10-26. Small walk-in humidor. Cubans are expensive. There must be a big tax to import them. But, the La Cava house brand of Colombian cigars are pretty damn good.[/QUOTE]Great. Thank for the info.

Is this address located in Centro? Any chance of finding tins of mini cigars (cigarillos) or well known dominican brands?

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1548766]Great. Thank for the info.

Is this address located in Centro? Any chance of finding tins of mini cigars (cigarillos) or well known dominican brands?[/QUOTE]Actually it's very near Parke lleras. I didn't see any dominicans. I like a large ring gauge. At least a 50, but I was given a Colombian mini cigar, the La Cava house brand. It was strong, but excellent and inexpensive. 20 minis in a pack for 20. 000.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1548766]Great. Thank for the info.

Is this address located in Centro? Any chance of finding tins of mini cigars (cigarillos) or well known dominican brands?[/QUOTE]I'd have killed for this info a month ago! I couldn't find a decent puro for caca!

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1548775]Actually it's very near Parke lleras. I didn't see any dominicans. I like a large ring gauge. At least a 50, but I was given a Colombian mini cigar, the La Cava house brand. It was strong, but excellent and inexpensive. 20 minis in a pack for 20. 000.[/QUOTE]Thank You very much for your response.

Robert at the Mansion sells habanos for a reasonable price. Depending on your housing situation. Not sure why the shop in Lleras is so expensive.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1548747]Does anyone know where to get cigars in Medellin? I have recently given up cigarettes.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1548638]I think you can take "Colombiana" out of the sentence and substitute your favorite nationality. It's not Colombianas in specific that are crazy, it's the entire sex. Some are just worse than others![/QUOTE]Nop, Colombiana stays in the sentence, they all are some crazy, but here are worst than other places for sure. So much drama and paranoia, haven't seen that even in the former Soviet Republics where men have treated them like sht for many generations. They are a little more mature and centered in reality.

So who is the stooge who is marrying my little friend?

I doubt though if it's anyone on this site.

I hear it's an 'A-rab'.
I wish them both the best though!

Not my little Ximena, I was the first "dingo" she loved and I'm sorry baby for breaking your heart but I do have a reputation.
It will not be long until you return, they always come back to Papiiii.
In fact I'm looking forward to coming back, been away for 6 months watching cricket around the world.

AG.

TE=Lmarcone; 1548817]So who is the stooge who is marrying my little friend?

I doubt though if it's anyone on this site.

I hear it's an 'A-rab'.

I wish them both the best though![/QUOTE]

I've never stayed at the Mansion. Is it worth it? I've always rented an apartment.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1548969]I've never stayed at the Mansion. Is it worth it? I've always rented an apartment.[/QUOTE]It depends. Do you like a social atmosphere? Or do you already have a social network set up in MDE?

IMO the appeal of the Mansion (Plaza 1) is the camaraderie with the other guests. All my trips to MDE have been solo. To me, its nice to have other like-minded guys to hang out with. Usually I already know about half the guests from my previous visits, so it's a very comfortable place to come back to a few times a year.

[QUOTE=Combo;1549062]IMO the appeal of the Mansion (Plaza 1) is the camaraderie with the other guests. All my trips to MDE have been solo. To me, its nice to have other like-minded guys to hang out with. Usually I already know about half the guests from my previous visits, so it's a very comfortable place to come back to a few times a year.[/QUOTE]How are the rooms? Are they worth the price?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1549097]How are the rooms? Are they worth the price?[/QUOTE]The rooms vary, but on the whole are pretty decent. They are a bit more expensive than you would pay for an equivalent room in a hotel or apartment.

For me it's worth it.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1548969]I've never stayed at the Mansion. Is it worth it? I've always rented an apartment.[/QUOTE]Why not just book a night or two and see for yourself? If you have no problems getting paisas to your apartment where (I am assuming) the atmosphere & furnishings are better than sessioning at the casas then I don't think you will need the Mansion.

The Mansion is great for the access to available women at a manageable price.

I am not sure how much you pay per night for the apartment, but if you pay cash, the rooms at the Mansion are 20% off their rack rate of 150K - 215K per night.

I hate Reggaeton. I also hate Rap music but it's Reggaeton that I hear so much when I'm in Colombia. I can listen to it if I have to for a little while but I feel so much better when it's over.

Anyway, I had a session with this girl recently. Was good and all but what really made her stand out in my mind was her love for Rock music. I found this out because I still travel with a pack of my favorite Rock CD's and a small CD player with speakers. Yes I know it's nearing antique status but it still sounds great.

So, this girl was looking at some of my CD collection and she asks me if she can play a couple of songs from one of the CD's. I said ok, and she puts one in the CD player and skips through some songs searching for the ones she wanted to hear. Turns out the CD was Aerosmith's 'Get Your Wings'. And what was were the songs she wanted to hear? Train kept a Rollin and Seasons of Wither. Imagine that, I thought. Those are my two favorite songs on that CD as well.

So, we lay there listening to Joe Perry's powerful guitar work and of course Steven Tyler's unique singing style on Train Kept a Rollin. She imitated the drumming during the part where it goes from studio to 'live crowd'. Pretty cool watching a naked Colombian girl air drumming!

The song after Train kept a Rollin is Seasons of Wither. It actually has a long haunting intro that eventually leads to an acoustic guitar and then just kicks out a mellow yet kick ass tune. A great tune, I found, to make out to as well with a willing partner.

Skipping the sordid bedroom details, after we were all showered and dressed, I asked the girl how she knew of Aerosmith. She told me that her dad was into rock and would listen to a lot of Aerosmith so she got to liking them but only their older music. She said she didn't like their newer music. Funny thing is, I don't either.

Stay horny my friends.

Cubanut

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1549169]I hate Reggaeton. I also hate Rap music but it's Reggaeton that I hear so much when I'm in Colombia. I can listen to it if I have to for a little while but I feel so much better when it's over.

Anyway, I had a session with this girl recently. Was good and all but what really made her stand out in my mind was her love for Rock music. I found this out because I still travel with a pack of my favorite Rock CD's and a small CD player with speakers. Yes I know it's nearing antique status but it still sounds great.

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Right on Cuba!

Rock on brotha!

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1548747]Does anyone know where to get cigars in Medellin? I have recently given up cigarettes.[/QUOTE]I get them at Poblado but I don't remember where I bought them. I saw cigars of every size and cheap in Poblado. Colombian cigars are good.

[QUOTE=Lmarcone; 1548817]So who is the stooge who is marrying my little friend?

I doubt though if it's anyone on this site. I hear it's an 'A-rab'. I wish them both the best though![/QUOTE]Are you speaking of [url]https://www.facebook.com/cindyximenac2[/url]

If so, do you have any intel on her amiga? [url]https://www.facebook.com/pautiradomh[/url]

If you have sessioned with Paula, could you offer a review?

You may PM me if you prefer not to post.

I'll be coming to MDE for a couple of weeks. I've had a mad mad time in Bogota and Cali. I love the big bars, cheap and skuzzy where I may be the only gringo. I haven't been to Medellin in the last 10 years when I left the real world in a place called Mangos. I think it was Mangos or Mangroves or something like that. I drank a lot back then. Know any such places? Tanks!

Go to Mayorista or De Greiff with Cucuta in El Centro.

[QUOTE=Bottom Feeder;1549928]I'll be coming to MDE for a couple of weeks. I've had a mad mad time in Bogota and Cali. I love the big bars, cheap and skuzzy where I may be the only gringo. I haven't been to Medellin in the last 10 years when I left the real world in a place called Mangos. I think it was Mangos or Mangroves or something like that. I drank a lot back then. Know any such places? Tanks![/QUOTE]

[1550092]Go to Mayorista or De Greiff with Cucuta in El Centro.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bottom Feeder;1549928]I'll be coming to MDE for a couple of weeks. I've had a mad mad time in Bogota and Cali. I love the big bars, cheap and skuzzy where I may be the only gringo. I haven't been to Medellin in the last 10 years when I left the real world in a place called Mangos. I think it was Mangos or Mangroves or something like that. I drank a lot back then. Know any such places? Tanks![/QUOTE]He gave you the answer to your question. I was thinking about your preferences and I thought that a big, cheap, skuzzy bar (with a lot of drunk hombres) might not be the best place to be "the only gringo." What's the appeal?

[QUOTE=Almotu; 1549842]Are you speaking of.

[url]https://www.facebook.com/cindyximenac2[/url]

If so, do you have any intel on her amiga?

[url]https://www.facebook.com/pautiradomh[/url]

If you have sessioned with Paula, could you offer a review?

You may PM me if you prefer not to post.[/QUOTE]I spent 3 TLNs with Paola over Christmas / New Years. Had an incredible time, almost scary good. Actually celebrated New Year's Eve with her and her mom. She can be a blast if you hit it off with her. She is one of Ximena's amigas and defintly a player though.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1550098]Matt gave you the answer to your question. I was thinking about your preferences and I thought that a big, cheap, skuzzy bar (with a lot of drunk hombres) might not be the best place to be "the only gringo." What's the appeal?[/QUOTE]

All bars in Centro around De Greiff and Raudal will remind you Atunes, just more sketchy.
I suggest also amaneceros like "La Gran Manzana","Los Gordos", and another one I don't remember 1 block from Metro Station Prado. They can open at 2am and collect all sleepless people. The appeal is for some, not for everyone.

You'll be the only gringo, and your heart will bump faster. Warning: it's NOT like Mango's LOL

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1550155]All bars in Centro around De Greiff and Raudal will remind you Atunes, just more sketchy.

I suggest also amaneceros like "La Gran Manzana","Los Gordos", and another one I don't remember 1 block from Metro Station Prado. They can open at 2am and collect all sleepless people. The appeal is for some, not for everyone.

You'll be the only gringo, and your heart will bump faster. Warning: it's NOT like Mango's LOL[/QUOTE]I was in La Barra twice last week and saw no gringos, Punto de la Playa is a goid bar without prepagos where I have never seen another gringo. Really almost any of the bars in el centro at night rarely have gringos. The attraction for me is always getting out of Poblado and seeing more everyday life.

Dang. You guys got me roaring to get out of this f-ing University environment and get down there. Last time I was a young and foolish 60 year old, drunk and following my dick around. I stayed at the Mansion and the auzie guy bailed me out of a couple of problems. This time I'm doing my homework, going slow and steady and my Spanish is mucho better if I don't get it mixed up with Portuguese. I like the down and dirty cause I like to talk to the locals for hours and buy them a few cheap drinks and bang cheap women. Of course I trust none of them. I've been in jail a few times in Mex, Costa Rica and the Philippines but not since I cut drinking heavy. Well, see ya before long and thanks for the great info.

And Legal Tender: Your question "Whats the appeal?". Great question. Believe me I pay attention to my FEAR. I read The gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker. As soon as I sense anything is scary, I'm gone. So the payoff of feeding off of the bottom as I do is simply: new and different experiences to talk about. Thanks for the question LT.

I arrived for the third time into the city, this time to live here for a while (1, 2 months. For as long as I am having fun). I came here to learn Spanish and salsa. While having access to the most gorgeous women in the world. And to get fit and become healthy (don't feel the need to drink here at all. Whereas in Thailand I was drinking over half a bottle of vodka a day and eating very unhealthy)

Visited Sexy Fantasia 2 at about 3pm (36,000 for 30 mins). Was great. Gorgeous girls all totally my type. It was all with a c0nd0m. Then next day visited Dulce Compania (37,000 + 2,000 viewing fee or you can buy a soft drink for the same amount). My problem is how to last longer than 3 mins. These women turn me on so much that its game over in under 60 seconds. Whereas in Thailand I Can go for 10-20 minutes. Any tips how to fill up the entire 30 minutes?

I plan on doing atleast one girl a day. Ideally different Casas for the first fortnight till I find my fav 5.

[QUOTE=Kute Guy; 1550439]I arrived for the third time into the city, this time to live here for a while (1, 2 months. For as long as I am having fun). I came here to learn Spanish and salsa. While having access to the most gorgeous women in the world. And to get fit and become healthy (don't feel the need to drink here at all. Whereas in Thailand I was drinking over half a bottle of vodka a day and eating very unhealthy)

Visited Sexy Fantasia 2 at about 3pm (36, 000 for 30 mins). Was great. Gorgeous girls all totally my type. It was all with a c0nd0m. Then next day visited Dulce Compania (37, 000 + 2, 000 viewing fee or you can buy a soft drink for the same amount). My problem is how to last longer than 3 mins. These women turn me on so much that its game over in under 60 seconds. Whereas in Thailand I Can go for 10-20 minutes. Any tips how to fill up the entire 30 minutes?

I plan on doing atleast one girl a day. Ideally different Casas for the first fortnight till I find my fav 5.[/QUOTE]I applaud you guys who come to MDE and can do something constructive or to improve yourself while filling the time. Learning Spanish, dancing, going to the gym, swimming, walking 3-4 miles a day, etc are good things things to be involved in. These things will keep you from drinking too much or doing too many drugs. I am not immune and find myself smoking more pot as my trips grow longer.

As far as trying to get different services from the girls in the casas, the answer almost always starts the same. Before you pull a girl, talk to her aside and explain what you are looking for. Let her know that if you cum in the first 5 minutes that you are not done. You can also try to avoid your most sensitive positions until the end but this may not work. Offering a small tip might help also. Make sure to take a little Viagra so you can continue. As Legal Tender alluded to in a recent post, be respectful and use your charm and you will get what you want from these girls. Once you find your "Fav 5" they will get used to your needs and you won't have a problem.

Good luck with your upcoming trip. If you have any other questions, send me a PM. I will be back in MDE in a few weeks for 4 months.

I posted this on another site awhile back and I figured I would post this here also.

Blue Room. I forgot that I had ordered a drink for a girl. I was 6k short of what was due. I promised the jefe that I would pay the balance the next time I was there. She said, no problem. A few weeks later I stopped by again. I attempted to pay the balance and the jefe said don't worry about it. I insisted that she take it, which she did with a smile.

Aiffe. I picked a girl and for some reason I could not decide for how long to take her. The jefe told me that we could square up after. The policy is to pay upfront. I was with her for 40 minutes. They have a 30 minute and a 50 minute rate. He was well aware of the in-between time. He thought about it for a few seconds and charged me the 30 minute rate. I gave a 3 mil tip and told the jefe that he was a gentleman.

Kama Sutra. I stopped by this place in search of a girl. She didn't show up for work as she only works part-time. I walk around for 30 minutes. I run into the jefe at the end of the street. He asked me if I wanted him to call her to see what is going on with her. I said why not. He contacts her and she is just leaving the gym. She says that she will go to centro and meet with me. I told him to call me when she arrives. About an hour later I get a call that she has arrived.

SF3. I was at the bottom of the steps, in the minimall, below chicas punto com and sf3. There was a girl selling chocolates for 500 pesos. My friend gave her 2 mil and she seemed very happy. I asked him if he was interested in having sex with her as I felt she might go for it. He said that he did not want to take her to a short term hotel. I walked the two of them up to SF3 and spoke with the jefe about using one of their rooms. She said, no problem. I asked the jefe to ask the girl if she was interested. After she nodded in agreement, off to the room they went.

In addition to these examples I have reserved girls at numerous casas, over the phone, and have never had a problem. Also, I have extended from 30 min to an hour many times by just yelling through the door that I will pay the difference afterward.

Although the casa jefes know me well, I do not frequent the casas that often. I do not average passing through any one casa more than 1-2 times per month when I am here. I want to add that I have never felt ripped off by any experience with a jefe in a MDE casa.

Just thought I would share some of my experiences with you all.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1550155]All bars in Centro around De Greiff and Raudal will remind you Atunes, just more sketchy.

I suggest also amaneceros like "La Gran Manzana","Los Gordos", and another one I don't remember 1 block from Metro Station Prado. They can open at 2am and collect all sleepless people. The appeal is for some, not for everyone.

You'll be the only gringo, and your heart will bump faster. Warning: it's NOT like Mango's LOL

Re the post below with the same title, I wrote a long post but it got lost somehow, the writing in below post is not mine, my intention was to reply to the posting

Mamasan at Sexi Fantasia 2 is always funny about changes. When I handed a 50k bill last time, she did not issue a change immediately, and the girl did not bring it either. I had to ask the mamasan for the change when I was leaving. This happened several times.

[QUOTE=Kute Guy; 1550439]I arrived for the third time into the city, this time to live here for a while (1, 2 months. For as long as I am having fun). I came here to learn Spanish and salsa. While having access to the most gorgeous women in the world. And to get fit and become healthy (don't feel the need to drink here at all. Whereas in Thailand I was drinking over half a bottle of vodka a day and eating very unhealthy)

Visited Sexy Fantasia 2 at about 3pm (36, 000 for 30 mins). Was great. Gorgeous girls all totally my type. It was all with a c0nd0m. Then next day visited Dulce Compania (37, 000 + 2, 000 viewing fee or you can buy a soft drink for the same amount). My problem is how to last longer than 3 mins. These women turn me on so much that its game over in under 60 seconds. Whereas in Thailand I Can go for 10-20 minutes. Any tips how to fill up the entire 30 minutes?

I plan on doing atleast one girl a day. Ideally different Casas for the first fortnight till I find my fav 5.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kute Guy; 1550439]I arrived for the third time into the city, this time to live here for a while (1, 2 months. For as long as I am having fun). I came here to learn Spanish and salsa. While having access to the most gorgeous women in the world. And to get fit and become healthy (don't feel the need to drink here at all. Whereas in Thailand I was drinking over half a bottle of vodka a day and eating very unhealthy)

Visited Sexy Fantasia 2 at about 3pm (36, 000 for 30 mins). Was great. Gorgeous girls all totally my type. It was all with a c0nd0m. Then next day visited Dulce Compania (37, 000 + 2, 000 viewing fee or you can buy a soft drink for the same amount). [B]My problem is how to last longer than 3 mins. These women turn me on so much that its game over in under 60 seconds. Whereas in Thailand I Can go for 10-20 minutes. Any tips how to fill up the entire 30 minutes? [/B]

I plan on doing atleast one girl a day. Ideally different Casas for the first fortnight till I find my fav 5.[/QUOTE]thanks for a refreshingly honest report. Good for you that you gave up drinking here. You were lasting longer in Thailand most likely because of alcohol. There are things that you can do in this day and age to address it without destroying your liver. I am not a doctor but here are things that work.

Some Antidepressants (of class SSRIs) work very well. Example Paxil or Lexapro. Almost no side effects other than some nausea.

Smoking pot is very effective. Even a little bit helps.

Lastly, Viagra. For hard to explain reason, all Viagra type drugs prolong time to finish. This is scientifically proven. How well it works depends on the individual.

[1550582]Mamasan at Sexi Fantasia 2 is always funny about changes. When I handed a 50k bill last time, she did not issue a change immediately, and the girl did not bring it either. I had to ask the mamasan for the change when I was leaving. This happened several times.[/QUOTE]They do the change thing in Tijuana as well. Secretly they are hoping that you forget about it on your way out. I admit that I have fell for it in the past but these days I bring a note pad with me and write it down. The notepad remains open until I walk out the door.

I hate when they play hide and seek at the same time.

Save your small change!

In general I am not a fan of facebook but I have no choice since I don"t use whatsapp. Anyway, even though there can be dozens of pics on facebook it is hard to tell how the girl looks in real life. It is hard when they have profile pictures of a tattoed body and most uploads are mobile phone selfies taken in weird angles and poor light. That happened to me yesterday. I friended this cute girl on facebook. She agreed to come see me at Parque LLeras Juan Valdez. While I was waiting (she was late by 30 min but that is par for the course here) , I saw bunch of cute girls get out of taxis and a few of them looked close enough and cute enough, I hoped were mine. But they were not. Kind of almost like when you are on a blind date waiting at a restaurant. Every time a beautiful girl walks through the door, your heart races a bit hoping she is the one and she is going to walk up to your table.

When my girl arrived, she looked very different. The girl stepping out of the taxi is beyond cute. She is a stunner (IMHO). She looked so much better in person. She was elegantly dressed in a long dress trying hard to hide those beautiful long legs. She has a flawless toned body with B cups. She said she is 18! I felt a bit out of place walking next to a girl that is slightly less than half my age. I was too sober not to care so I gave up the idea of walking the bars in LLeras and took her to the apartment. Only down side is that she was not much of a GFE. She went through and checked all the boxes though. She kissed, BJ and sex in few positions but she does not have the experience. Sometimes I do put up with a cold shoulder from a real hottie. That is life :-D.

I fucked a stunner, in the comfort of my own apartment, exactly an hour after I checked in. I love Colombia.

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff;1550507]. I am not immune and find myself smoking more pot as my trips grow longer.[/QUOTE]Is the weed any good in MDE?

[QUOTE=Kute Guy;1550439]was all with a c0nd0m.[/QUOTE]You saying you couldn't get BBBJ?

After spending two enjoyable nights at the Mansion playing with the controls of the dildo machine and a girl riding it at the Mansion bar, and having a two on one as well. Scott arrived ready to explore the town and see what I had to show him as well as have a date night! We did Centro and all the varieties of girls and action that goes along with it as well as the Barrios and parks where the girls hang and of course Lleras Zona Rosa. He liked having both experiences and I don't blame him, both places to stay offer something different and exciting! Try a combination next time you decide to come to Medellin. I'm either booked, on vacation or not available until May 8th so see you after that.

Thanks,

Colombia Jake

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1547594]I always lay out about $1000USD in pesos on the bed, Then just tell them take whatever you think is fair![/QUOTE]Perhaps I'm reading this wrong. You lay the equivalent of $1, 000 dollars in Colombian currency on the bed?

[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1550835]Is the weed any good in MDE?[/QUOTE]Just like anything and anywhere it depends on the supplier. You can get excellent weed but you need to know the supplier or get lucky. I got lucky yesterday and I scored. It was pure cripe / cripa.

Just when you think it can't get any better, it does.

What can beat fucking a stunner? A lover.

I sent this as a PM to another senior contributor so I figured I will share it with you lurkers as well.

I just finished a relaxed 2 hrs with another gem: A C. She is amazing. Bit of silicone in tits but you can't tell. No kids, Six pack and a world class ass. Plastic surgeons should use her ass as a model.

BTW, she showed up 3 minutes early and I was 10 minutes late coming from the cambio. She was waiting in the lobby of my fancy complex dressed like a GND. She punched me playfully for being late and I knew right then that she is cool.

Out to a hookah bar with A (the earlier stunner) and la Isla later tonight. :-D.

Stay safe and treat them all well.

P.S: I will share names on the forum once I leave town in a couple of days. Seniors that contribute and share can PM me.

Going back down in a couple of weeks and staying at Mansion again. Just wanted to know from some of the regulars or recent visitors if they know which girls are down to for a 3some's or willing to be with other girls. You can PM names or Facebook pages I'd appreciate it. Just don't want to insult any of the girls by asking or assuming; but if given some names I know what direction to go. Thanks in Advance. Also has anyone had multiple girls at a casa? If so is it worth it? Or should I just do itatroom in Mansion.

BTW just for conversation sakes though I know will differ from person to person. But in your opinion what's a spinner in your eyes. Just wanted to know what some of the member's preferences are & see if some of us share similar likes.

I had several PMs about Hookah:

Hookah is available at the bar "Opensky". It is a roof top lounge opposite to restaurant "Woka" on Cr 38 in parque Lleras. Don't get confused and go to "skybar" which does not have it. Tropical cocktail near parque Poblado that used to have it is out if business.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1550903]Just like anything and anywhere it depends on the supplier. You can get excellent weed but you need to know the supplier or get lucky. I got lucky yesterday and I scored. It was pure cripe / cripa.[/QUOTE]Have fun Vitrea!

Best regards,

Smuler

As promised, I went to La Isla at 10:30. I was thinking may be it is too early but it is I think the best time to show up if you are picky like me. Lot of guys are doing takeouts and [B]Eleina[/B], the hot blonde with a charming smile and perfect english was already walking out the door at 10:45. Knowing her, she will back at La Isla in a couple of hours for round two. On the way out, she stopped by and gave me a hug and that was nice. It certainly got other girl's attention.

[B]Milena[/B], a true spinner in my book was also there last night. She even remembered my name. Sweet. Someone was asking who a true spinner is? Milena fits the bill for me. Half my weight. 6 inches shorter than me and a waist that I can almost circle with both my hands. She is the best dancer they have. I tipped her 10K just for stopping to say hi.

Over all La Isa has a lot of pretty girls. More number of girls than at Fase II but probably the same number of girls of my type: All natural, fit and friendly.

I honed in on [B]Andrea[/B]. She is tall, all natural, fit and super friendly. I did a TLN with her and she was a lot of fun. We went to several bars in Lleras. She, like most of the working girls, is from poor area and felt a bit out of place and nervous in Lleras. It took couple of drinks to loosen up. Mr Chupita dance bar was the bomb last night. They played Latin and electronic music. Which is a nice combo for non-latinos as we can only uncoordinatedly shake our hips for only so long.

I almost forgot to report on Fase II Thursday night.

I first went to Liquid lounge. I managed to find it this time. Turns out they were having a ladies night and guys are not allowed. I did not want to see near naked men with swinging dicks anyway so that was not a problem. Turned the taxi around and went to Fase II. It was quite happening at 11 PM. I saw [B]Judy[/B] (my fav working girl face in MDE) and [B]Samantha[/B] (a spinner, athletic on stage and in bed). I was tempted with both but I waited to see if there is any fresh talent. [B]Geraldine[/B], caught my eye. Beautiful face, naturally good body but not toned. I was sold on her smile and the fact that she likes weed and offered me her stash even before I asked. Those kind of things are clues to their friendliness which is the single most important determinant of how memorable your experience is going to be.

I took her on site for a "hour". They call it an hour but it is only 40 minutes. Be nice to the lady that give keys and sells condoms. I always joke with her (which she does not care) and tip her (which she cares) and I tell her in a friendly, almost joking tone to not disturb us for an hour. I almost never get shorted. Actually, some girls even comment why the phone is not ringing as it is almost an hour. I give them a wink and they give me a nod and an extra blow job.

Geraldine was a class act and I highly recommend her, especially if you like missionary and like looking at a beautiful face.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1550903]Just like anything and anywhere it depends on the supplier. You can get excellent weed but you need to know the supplier or get lucky. I got lucky yesterday and I scored. It was pure cripe / cripa.[/QUOTE]Do most chicas partake? In Aruba every chica (Venezuelans Y Colombianas) join me though some infer implicit approval to do a line, which I rarely allow.

Go 65 Plus!

Empty bladder could increase the reaction erection time. Massage the chica, this could change the climax period. A good urgo doctor can be more help. Meds do change the climax period. Go 50 Blue plus is the standard to consider.

The penis being a complex hydraulic device with neuro climax is driven by age groups in many cases. Too much Blue meds limits climax and extended hardness. After the age of 65 plus the system might shutdown in some cases.

[QUOTE=Kute Guy; 1550439]I arrived for the third time into the city, this time to live here for a while (1, 2 months. For as long as I am having fun). I came here to learn Spanish and salsa. While having access to the most gorgeous women in the world. And to get fit and become healthy (don't feel the need to drink here at all. Whereas in Thailand I was drinking over half a bottle of vodka a day and eating very unhealthy)

Visited Sexy Fantasia 2 at about 3pm (36, 000 for 30 mins). Was great. Gorgeous girls all totally my type. It was all with a c0nd0m. Then next day visited Dulce Compania (37, 000 + 2, 000 viewing fee or you can buy a soft drink for the same amount). My problem is how to last longer than 3 mins. These women turn me on so much that its game over in under 60 seconds. Whereas in Thailand I Can go for 10-20 minutes. Any tips how to fill up the entire 30 minutes?

I plan on doing atleast one girl a day. Ideally different Casas for the first fortnight till I find my fav 5.[/QUOTE]

Twin sisters (18) have just started at MP (I've finished with them) they do a great "los tres"!

A. G.

[QUOTE=DmeHcg; 1550956]Going back down in a couple of weeks and staying at Mansion again. Just wanted to know from some of the regulars or recent visitors if they know which girls are down to for a 3some's or willing to be with other girls. You can PM names or Facebook pages I'd appreciate it. Just don't want to insult any of the girls by asking or assuming; but if given some names I know what direction to go. Thanks in Advance. Also has anyone had multiple girls at a casa? If so is it worth it? Or should I just do itatroom in Mansion.

BTW just for conversation sakes though I know will differ from person to person. But in your opinion what's a spinner in your eyes. Just wanted to know what some of the member's preferences are & see if some of us share similar likes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1551428]Twin sisters (18) have just started at MP (I've finished with them) they do a great "los tres"!

A. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks Gregg that exactly the type of answer I was looking for. Any other ones I should know about? BTW twin sisters that are down for a 3some thats like a porno fantasy! You my friend are a a King!

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1551110]I had several PMs about Hookah:

Hookah is available at the bar "Opensky". It is a roof top lounge opposite to restaurant "Woka" on Cr 38 in parque Lleras. Don't get confused and go to "skybar" which does not have it. Tropical cocktail near parque Poblado that used to have it is out if business.[/QUOTE]Vit as always always helping out I appreciate it. However I know this might be pushing it do you know if they are any good at setting up good hookahs or they just throw it all together and sell it. Sorry had to ask! If you don't know no worries.

Thanks again

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1551133]As promised, I went to La Isla at 10:30. I was thinking may be it is too early but it is I think the best time to show up if you are picky like me. Lot of guys are doing takeouts and [B]Eleina[/B], the hot blonde with a charming smile and perfect english was already walking out the door at 10:45. Knowing her, she will back at La Isla in a couple of hours for round two. On the way out, she stopped by and gave me a hug and that was nice. It certainly got other girl's attention.

[B]Milena[/B], a true spinner in my book was also there last night. She even remembered my name. Sweet. Someone was asking who a true spinner is? Milena fits the bill for me. Half my weight. 6 inches shorter than me and a waist that I can almost circle with both my hands. She is the best dancer they have. I tipped her 10K just for stopping to say hi.

Over all La Isa has a lot of pretty girls. More number of girls than at Fase II but probably the same number of girls of my type: All natural, fit and friendly.

I honed in on [B]Andrea[/B]. She is tall, all natural, fit and super friendly. I did a TLN with her and she was a lot of fun. We went to several bars in Lleras. She, like most of the working girls, is from poor area and felt a bit out of place and nervous in Lleras. It took couple of drinks to loosen up. Mr Chupita dance bar was the bomb last night. They played Latin and electronic music. Which is a nice combo for non-latinos as we can only uncoordinatedly shake our hips for only so long.[/QUOTE]Great report! Sounds like my type of lady with spinner description. However I'm trying to find a chica this time around that I can also circle my hand around her waist however an ass I could use for a pillow! Sounds like La Isla is becoming a better place than Fase II.

Hello gents,

Just a quick report about something I saw at Mayorista a few weeks ago:

I was at the Mayorista on a Saturday night with a buddy of mine. After a couple of walks back and forth we grabbed a couple of drinks and just stood around to talk a bit about the talent there. A few minutes later I see a couple (guy and girl) walking slowly and smiling and eying some of the available girls. They strolled the full length and I thought they were like many couples and guys and girls that just take a gander at what's happening at Mayorista then leave.

Well the couple doubles back and they stop not far from where my friend and I are standing and talk to a girl in front of one of the short time hotels. After about 2 minutes they all head in together into the hotel. So my friend and I stroll a couple of more times up and down the Mayorista for about half an hour and end up back at same place just in time to see the same guy / girl couple come out of the hotel hand in hand then arm over shoulder and slowly walk down towards the casino then hop in a taxi and leave.

The girl they had taken into the hotel came out a few minutes later. So I mozy on up to her and ask if I could ask her about what the couple wanted with her. She said they wanted her to have sex with him and she would watch. Which she had had no problem with. I asked if the girl did anything with her as well and she said they didn't pay her for that but didn't indicate that she wanted to anyway. The last question I asked was if they were Colombian. I thought maybe they were curious tourists. But the girl said they were Colombian.

Now I know there are swingers clubs in Medellin where couples will swap but usually they tend to be older couples. This guy and girl, however, were an early twenties and very good looking couple. Just a pair being a bit adventurous on a Saturday night out. Pretty cool indeed!

Stay horny my friends,

Cubanut

Hi everyone. I've been reading and following this board for a few months now and appreciate all the information. I have made a decision to move to MDE for a min of 3 months to learn spanish and enjoy the company of the local talents. I'm looking forward to meeting Vegas Jeff and if any others who would like to hang out it would be great, I will buy the first round of drinks. I just found out I have a week and a half till classes start so I have some time to hang out and check out some of the places mentioned on this board.

Sunny

[QUOTE=DmeHcg;1551476]Great report! Sounds like my type of lady with spinner description. However I'm trying to find a chica this time around that I can also circle my hand around her waist however an ass I could use for a pillow! Sounds like La Isla is becoming a better place than Fase II.[/QUOTE]They are both the same I think.

I went back to Fase II. Well, let me back up a bit on how I ended up there.

Took a taxi to Luna Lunera. There was one cute girl at 11:15. I was in the mood for a TLN. I did not want to put all my eggs in her basket and end up empty handed after a drink and the whole getting to know each other bit. I bailed and went to Liquid close to 11:30. I was the only one there. I had two drinks there and left (I like the concept so I wanted to support them even in a small way).

I stopped by Luxury (regular bar) and ended up at Fase II at midnight. I pulled Samantha from there on a TLN. It was very nice. Dance, dinner, drinks, hookah but no kissing. She is a true spinner, all natural but no kissing killed it for me. Though it was a good ride, I am not renting her again.

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1551683]I went back to Fase II. I pulled Samantha from there on a TLN. It was very nice. Dance, dinner, drinks, hookah but no kissing. She is a true spinner, all natural but no kissing killed it for me. Though it was a good ride, I am not renting her again.[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone can reasonably expect a casa or strip club girl to kiss. These girls are fucking many dudes every day.

Dude you are having a very good time. Good for you.

Nice you share and report back with some useful information.

For people that ask which SB is better. I think Fase Dos, for my taste. I really hate fake asses. Some paisas are pretty flat and is understandable they want some help from technology, But the way they use it is so fucking ridiculous, Asses that don't look real or harmonic with the rest of their body. Some super cute faces get just ruined their bodies with this trend. So La Isla just like Lutron are a natch down in my list of quality. But is just my taste. Is so gross to see and touch those implants in some positions, is like fcking an android. Hahaha. But if your repectable taste is that you would be in silicon paradise. My favorites in Fase are all natural. You can't find them in La Isla so easily. Or I wasn't that lucky. The best looking ones there were fake =(. Me and my friend were so sad of deception. In and Out to Fase right away.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1551428]Twin sisters (18) have just started at MP (I've finished with them) they do a great "los tres"!

A. G.[/QUOTE]PLEASE bro tell me they are the Davalos Twins please! Hahahaha my wet dream would come true. =)

[QUOTE=EstebanH;1551870]I don't think anyone can reasonably expect a casa or strip club girl to kiss. These girls are fucking many dudes every day.[/QUOTE]

But...I am not fucking them. I am making love to them :-D.

Seriously, I see what you are saying and I can see that with a 45 min romp on site. I can't think if I ever had a [B]TLN[/B] in MDE where the girl does not kiss. One of the points of TLN is that we spend some time to build a bit of "connection". I also carefully preselect before I dole out that kind of cash. This time, I did not do the full interview because I have been with her in Fase II and remember her body and sex. I just forgot about the kissing part. Just reporting for the use of other mongers. No biggie. I still had a good time.

[QUOTE=Dealdo;1551877]PLEASE bro tell me they are the Davalos Twins please! Hahahaha my wet dream would come true. =)[/QUOTE]Seriously, Do you know for a fact if the Davalos twins work or you are just making a joke?

Sorry guys, I had so many PMs lately, my in-box got full. I just emptied it.

JG, I got an email saying you tried to send me one. If you see this and still want to chat, send me a PM again.

Probably, that depends upon the guy's looks, language skills and personality.

[QUOTE=EstebanH;1551870]I don't think anyone can reasonably expect a casa or strip club girl to kiss. These girls are fucking many dudes every day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EstebanH;1551870]I don't think anyone can reasonably expect a casa or strip club girl to kiss. These girls are fucking many dudes every day.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]Probably, that depends upon the guy's looks, language skills and personality.[/QUOTE]Not all mongers are built the same, and will definitely get varied responses depending on their individual qualities.

Duhh, Mongering 101, LOL

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1551625]Hello gents,

Just a quick report about something I saw at Mayorista a few weeks ago:

Stay horny my friends,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]It's nice to see you back and writing about Medellin. For those who are not familiar with your timeless video tribute to the girls of Medellin, I'm supplying the link: [url]http://youtu.be/vfjw28fSVfI[/url]

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1552021]Seriously, Do you know for a fact if the Davalos twins work or you are just making a joke?[/QUOTE]Is was just a cruel joke bro and a Christmas wish hahaha. I don't think they do it, and if they do, would be for a LOT, but a LOT of money. And not to any Joe. =(

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1552053]It's nice to see you back and writing about Medellin. For those who are not familiar with your timeless video tribute to the girls of Medellin, I'm supplying the link:

[url]http://youtu.be/vfjw28fSVfI[/url][/QUOTE]Hello LT,

I can say it's been awhile since even I looked at that video. Brings back many fond memories. Especially the blonde. Natural blondes are rare in Medellin. So I appreciated her that much more.

Cheers,

Cubanut

[QUOTE=Dealdo;1552070]Is was just a cruel joke bro and a Christmas wish hahaha. I don't think they do it, and if they do, would be for a LOT, but a LOT of money. And not to any Joe. =([/QUOTE]Actually the Divalos sisters were listed at a high end escort place in LA that does porn stars and C-list celebrities. I called and made sure it wasn't bait and switch (also check around a few other boards to see if the agency was real, they were)

$3,000 USD for both one hour was what was quoted to me.

Don't know if they ever went through with it.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1551683]I stopped by Luxury (regular bar) and ended up at Fase II at midnight. I pulled Samantha from there on a TLN. It was very nice. Dance, dinner, drinks, hookah but no kissing. She is a true spinner, all natural but no kissing killed it for me. Though it was a good ride, I am not renting her again.[/QUOTE]How much did you have to pay for TLN with her? 300-400k?

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1552165]Actually the Divalos sisters were listed at a high end escort place in LA that does porn stars and C-list celebrities. I called and made sure it wasn't bait and switch (also check around a few other boards to see if the agency was real, they were)

$3000USD for both one hour was what was quoted to me.

Don't know if they ever went through with it.[/QUOTE]Well that money is believable, USA is not a good place to hire a famous escort for sure. My Christmas wish would be still only that =(

[QUOTE=Almotu;1552232]How much did you have to pay for TLN with her? 300-400k?[/QUOTE]300K. She asked for 400. I did take her out to eat and drink. She did not eat much and ordered only one drink. She did drink at home, so that tells me that she is classy and conservative with other peopl'e money. I tipped her 20K for taxi which she did not expect or ask.

[QUOTE=Kute Guy; 1550439]I arrived for the third time into the city, this time to live here for a while (1, 2 months. For as long as I am having fun). I came here to learn Spanish and salsa. While having access to the most gorgeous women in the world. And to get fit and become healthy (don't feel the need to drink here at all. Whereas in Thailand I was drinking over half a bottle of vodka a day and eating very unhealthy)

Visited Sexy Fantasia 2 at about 3pm (36, 000 for 30 mins). Was great. Gorgeous girls all totally my type. It was all with a c0nd0m. Then next day visited Dulce Compania (37, 000 + 2, 000 viewing fee or you can buy a soft drink for the same amount). My problem is how to last longer than 3 mins. These women turn me on so much that its game over in under 60 seconds. Whereas in Thailand I Can go for 10-20 minutes. Any tips how to fill up the entire 30 minutes?

I plan on doing atleast one girl a day. Ideally different Casas for the first fortnight till I find my fav 5.[/QUOTE]Went to Sexy Fantasia 1 C.

Horrible experience. The girls weren't all that. Chose one. She was an absolute starfish. I could not even get it up and she did not make much of an effort to even try (this is after I had taken the usual tadanafil 4 hours ago). Not really a nice place to visit at all aesthetically as well. Will never repeat. Was 40,000 for 30 mins I think. I left after 15 and the girl did not even make any effort to try and remedy the situation. Haven't been to any casa last 3 days after that. Going to live here for 2 months so need to get me a novea real soon. Colombia cupid not so great. Hot chicks on the street though

Someone asked on this site a few weeks ago if there is a massage place with happy ending. I found a good one on this trip. Most of you I am sure have heard of it. It is in a high end mall and is advertised as a legit place. It is 80K for one hour of excellent massage followed by a whisper and a slow HJ. I gave her a 30K tip inside the room and 10K outside, in front of the manager. They had three girls, all professionally dressed, in their 20s. All are solid 7s.

You guys know that I all about sharing but since this place advertises itself as legit, I am a bit hesitant to post the name on the forum. PM me and seniors that spend a lot of time in MDE can give input if I am over thinking this or if I am correct and should keep it on the low.

[QUOTE=Kute Guy; 1552484]Went to Sexy Fantasia 1 C.

Horrible experience. The girls weren't all that. Chose one. She was an absolute starfish. I could not even get it up and she did not make much of an effort to even try (this is after I had taken the usual tadanafil 4 hours ago). Not really a nice place to visit at all aesthetically as well. Will never repeat. Was 40, 000 for 30 mins I think. I left after 15 and the girl did not even make any effort to try and remedy the situation. Haven't been to any casa last 3 days after that. Going to live here for 2 months so need to get me a novea real soon. Colombia cupid not so great. Hot chicks on the street though[/QUOTE]A starfish? I love it!

Hey guys, I am finally here and have to say it is true about the beauty of the girls here. Went to San Diego Mall and as I was going to another area, spotted the SD strip joint. Cab driver said that it was so so. Just happy to be here finally and going to the Park LLeras to check out the local action and maybe Liquid Lounge. I will give a better FR in the days to come.

The day started trying to get settled into my apt. After locating it, it is not exactly in Pablado but in San Diego just on the northeast edge. It is still nice but the jury is still out on this as I find more facts as the days goes by. Headed down to the metro an picked up a bus pass for the Green / yellow / white. These requires prepaid cards. Then walked down to SD mall and got a sim for my Nex 5. Was told it will be up in an hour, then 4, and now. Come back manana. LOL. Not having a means of communication sucks. So I decided to stock up the apartment with some food and turns out I need to purchase some bare necessities as well. Tried to take a cab home and yes, it is true the cabs here are cheap (even compared to Tijuana). One thing I did notice about the people here is that they are very friendly and will talk to you. As for safety, I don't feel any way like I would be in Tijuana. The police here are very nice and with welcome to MDE smiling. Tijuana is def not like this. I think I've had a conversation about MDE with about 12 police officer in one day. OH, maybe because the UNUrbana is in town but either way, its a good first impression. After I got to the apartment and showered to get ready to go hunting I headed to Parque LLeras and I was impressed again. Lots of ladies walking around. . After dinner, I went to Liquid and it was completely dead. Guy inside said the sound system is down. Decided to head to Fase 2 and yes there were some nice ladies in there. I would do half on a buzz but 4 when sober. Fase will try to milk you as they entry was 10K. Went and sat at a table and the waiter tells me the prices are different between chairs at the bar and the table. I didn't know it at the time so I said hell I just want a beer and ordered it from the bar. It cost 17K! WTF! And it was domestic. That kinda killed the mood as I'm still tired from flying and have a class tomorrow so I'm now finishing this report. Day 1 is done.

nice first couple of on the ground reports.

first, a buddy and i will be in town the week after easter. if you need a gringo to grab a beer with, pm me. i am a second time visitor to medellin and my buddy is a first timer. we like to explore, so if you are up to it.

sorry to hear liquid lounge was dead when you visited. i had / have high hopes for the place.

fase dos. reminded of my one and only visit to the place last october. went on a thursday night around 1 am entry was 10k, about 5 bucks. nice looking ladies and i too found your money goes fast if not watched. we initially sat at the bar and ordered our drinks. i remember the beers were about 8 us bucks each, so was not going to drink more than one. we grabbed our beers from the bar and were about to move to a table and were told we could not. apparently they have a rule about buying your drinks at the table if you are going to sit at a table. was hoping you knew what the added cost would be? a hottie sat next to me at the bar and she she spoke broken english. eventually bought her a very small drink which was 12 us. got her phone number and paid her 200.000 k for her to show up a few days later. she stayed two hours.

i have not been, but maybe try the centro strip clubs for a better deal. we will be trying these places when we visit, so if you want to join for the added benefit of having gringo numbers, pm me. be careful at night and i have been told the quality will not be as high. late night street action is near the sd mall (careful of trannies and ****) and of course the mayorista. i am not at all familiar with the sd mall area at night. tried to find out the exact places to search out the girls, but so far have not seen it posted. i spent a few hours on mayorista and it is seedy, but i enjoyed the atmosphere. very few girls i would take, but i enjoyed the scene.

i spent the last 8 months on facebook and have more than 200 contacts. if we meet i will share what i have to get you started. keep the trip reports coming they are refreshing.

Men, Allways be alert. You can find women everywhere in Medellin, I'm allways willing to buy a beautiful lady a few drinks or dinner, so what if it doesn't work out, You just gave someone a good time, these are people too, and while with these ladies theres a friend of a friend and miore networking involved. Don't be a cheap charlie, You got to be the man.

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[QUOTE=El Bacano; 1553126]Men, Allways be alert. You can find women everywhere in Medellin, I'm allways willing to buy a beautiful lady a few drinks or dinner, so what if it doesn't work out, You just gave someone a good time, these are people too, and while with these ladies theres a friend of a friend and miore networking involved. Don't be a cheap charlie, You got to be the man.[/QUOTE]I agree and have been screaming this for years! Guys are so worried about getting played (Been there got had, live learn, move on) or on fixed incomes / budgets that they let that dictate their time in Medellin instead of steering the trip in the way that they want.

Be handsome. If you can't be handsome be as many of the fundamentals of a good person. Kind, cool, interesting, funny, generous (with in reason) and you shold be fine.

Happy hunting boys! Wish I was going down soon.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1553128]I agree and have been screaming this for years! Guys are so worried about getting played (Been there got had, live learn, move on) or on fixed incomes / budgets that they let that dictate their time in Medellin instead of steering the trip in the way that they want.

Be handsome. If you can't be handsome be as many of the fundamentals of a good person. Kind, cool, interesting, funny, generous (with in reason) and you should be fine.

Happy hunting boys! Wish I was going down soon.[/QUOTE]It is an issue to be concerned about since not everyone can make it rain with $.

My best advice is not to be overly "generous." Easier said than done since these putas are very manipulative and have success with mongers due to monger's low self esteem and gullibility.

News Flash. Latin people think Gringos are stupid thus easy prey.

Cut your loses early and move on if its obvious the puta is trying to rip you off.

I have been reading the Medellin forum for a week and you guys are freaking hilarious. I truly enjoy all the post and updates from everyone. What is the best starting point on Thursday 17th, thanks?

[QUOTE=Jet69; 1553112]Nice first couple of on the ground reports.

Sorry to hear Liquid Lounge was dead when you visited. I had / have high hopes for the place.

I spent the last 8 months on facebook and have more than 200 contacts. If we meet I will share what I have to get you started. Keep the trip reports coming they are refreshing.[/QUOTE]LL: Me too. I want them to do well but not sure what the deal is.

FB: 200 contacts? That is a lot. You should be all set then. You may never have to step out of your hotel / apartment. :-D

[QUOTE=Zozo The Thief;1553267]I have been reading the Medellin forum for a week and you guys are freaking hilarious. I truly enjoy all the post and updates from everyone. What is the best starting point on Thursday 17th, thanks?[/QUOTE]What time. Morning, afternoon, early evening or at night?

Day2.

Note: The names of the fellow mongers will not be shared unless I get their permission so I will not mention their names unless told otherwise.

Met up with fellow mongers to do some hunting. We meet at a local dining and introduce ourselves and exchange some experiences. We then went to Zandalay where I pull the trigger on Daniela based on a recommendation. But summary is yes, I will repeat. Feeling better after busting my cherry for the first time in Columbia, I was still hungry for more. We then went to other casas to check out the action there. Sorry guys, since I am still new to MDE I will have to make a better attempt to remember the names. Okay back to hunting, I pulled the trigger on Nicole and was very pleased as she had some skills for someone so young. Plus very tight. Since I am here taking Spanish at a university I had only enough time left to go to class. I go to school and all I can concentrate on was "How do I get to bang these young hot chicks?" I tell you it is very hard to concentrate but I was more motivated to study my Spanish now more than ever.

After class, I meet up with 2 more members at Premium Plaza. We grab dinner and then went to do a little gambling at the casino in the mall. I lost 250 pesos. LOL. I'm not a gambler so I just do slots while the guys hit the tables. Once they got their fulfillment of gambling, we start checking out some places. First, Liquid Lounge, yes, dead again. Then we went to some hole in the wall and I do mean HOLE IN THE WALL. LOL. It did have a nice view of the city though. We did not pull any triggers. We exit and hit some street action, this turned out to be a joy ride. We go down the same block radius and we can see all sorts of variety. Some hot, some chubby and for those who like Lady Boys, there is action for you there too. No one wanted to pull a trigger so we called it a night.

Summary: I got to bust some nuts and have seen so much in one day that I KNOW I made the right decision to come down here. And this is Day 2. My advise, if you have always wondered well.... Get your ass down here sums it up.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1553128]I agree and have been screaming this for years! Guys are so worried about getting played (Been there got had, live learn, move on) or on fixed incomes / budgets that they let that dictate their time in Medellin instead of steering the trip in the way that they want.

Be handsome. If you can't be handsome be as many of the fundamentals of a good person. Kind, cool, interesting, funny, generous (with in reason) and you shold be fine.

Happy hunting boys! Wish I was going down soon.[/QUOTE]I'm not a scrooge but my view is quality doesn't mean the amount of $ I shell out to a chick. I've spent $1500 on a porn star and that was in the Mid-west while she was visiting. I'm sure there are others that spent much more but I've spent over $25K just partying in TJ last year alone. Yes that's my fun money so its not about the $ for me. Right now its more like sampling. I'm paying a fraction of the price to see how I click with each one for future references and repeats. Look at it like going to a rib festival. You want to try to sample as many vendors before buying that rack that you like best. LOL. As far as handsome...well you can call me the asian George Clooney or maybe my $ makes me look him to the ladies. LOL. Remember this is a hobby and its almost a passion to travel and enjoy the beauties of the world.

[quote=jet69; 1553112]nice first couple of on the ground reports.

first, a buddy and i will be in town the week after easter. if you need a gringo to grab a beer with, pm me. i am a second time visitor to medellin and my buddy is a first timer. we like to explore, so if you are up to it.

sorry to hear liquid lounge was dead when you visited. i had / have high hopes for the place.

fase dos. reminded of my one and only visit to the place last october. went on a thursday night around 1 am entry was 10k, about 5 bucks. nice looking ladies and i too found your money goes fast if not watched. we initially sat at the bar and ordered our drinks. i remember the beers were about 8 us bucks each, so was not going to drink more than one. we grabbed our beers from the bar and were about to move to a table and were told we could not. apparently they have a rule about buying your drinks at the table if you are going to sit at a table. was hoping you knew what the added cost would be? a hottie sat next to me at the bar and she she spoke broken english. eventually bought her a very small drink which was 12 us. got her phone number and paid her 200. 000 k for her to show up a few days later. she stayed two hours.

i have not been, but maybe try the centro strip clubs for a better deal. we will be trying these places when we visit, so if you want to join for the added benefit of having gringo numbers, pm me. be careful at night and i have been told the quality will not be as high. late night street action is near the sd mall (careful of trannies and ****) and of course the mayorista. i am not at all familiar with the sd mall area at night. tried to find out the exact places to search out the girls, but so far have not seen it posted. i spent a few hours on mayorista and it is seedy, but i enjoyed the atmosphere. very few girls i would take, but i enjoyed the scene.

i spent the last 8 months on facebook and have more than 200 contacts. if we meet i will share what i have to get you started. keep the trip reports coming they are refreshing.[/quote]fyi, i've just sent you a pm. as for the central area's, its like indiana jones but i do find treasure. i'm just simply amazed at the selection and the friendliness of the girls. thought the language barrier is temporary, it makes is much motivating. i learn new words everyday as i try and communicate. i'm in up the hills of sd so the area is decent but the streets action there is like i said on my day 2 its a joy ride just going through the streets. i am however really adverse to the **** girls so i try to advoid as much as possible. if they don't pass the 6th sense, i pass regardless.

[QUOTE=Zozo The Thief;1553267]I have been reading the Medellin forum for a week and you guys are freaking hilarious. I truly enjoy all the post and updates from everyone. What is the best starting point on Thursday 17th, thanks?[/QUOTE]Keep in mind that this is a Catholic community. This week is a holiday so some yes some if not many of the girls will not be working. As far as starting point, what do you mean?

How is going to working girl houses to find a chick to fuck is considered hunting? And this talk about pulling the trigger. Lmao You don't need to pull no trigger cowboy! Just pay the fee!

You want to hunt and really pull the trigger? Then go out to the malls, shopping centers, universities. Etc.

You don't need to go to overpriced bullshit *****houses like "face2" to get great sex. You can stop girls comming out of a metro station and easily pull one out for the same amout or less and have her for a couple of hours or the whole day. YMMV.

Especially if you are going to live ther like someone posted earlier. I recommend enrolling in "Forma" gym because they have better deals for a 3-4 months inscription. Eat where the locals eat and start inviting local girls.

Look at the girls I fond just from asking girls walking around the area where I stayed in "el centro" (posted on photo gallery). Not hard to do.

The problem is most of you are scared to death from leaving "el poblado" and all the pros troll there. Then at least go proposition the girls from that politecnico across the street from the poblado station. These are poor girls who need money for school.

I paid the girls $20k per session! Some I gave $40k for one session. 80-120k per night. A LOT I told fuck off to!

I'll end this with a true motivating story:

I had met a sweet young girl the last few days and she gladly took the $20k per session. I told her to bring her friend who was even prettier, but her friend flaked (never did this before) then during my last day which my friend spent with me, I asked her why her friend refused when she is of similar financial situation!

She told me that even though her friend was objecting to how little the offer was, her friend's own mother told her daughter "you are just giving it up for free to your bf, at least the gringo is giving you something!" My friend giggled when she heard this. LOL.

Economics, you have to respect it.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1553874]How is going to working girl houses to find a chick to fuck is considered hunting? And this talk about pulling the trigger. Lmao You don't need to pull no trigger cowboy! Just pay the fee!

You want to hunt and really pull the trigger? Then go out to the malls, shopping centers, universities. Etc.

You don't need to go to overpriced bullshit *houses like "face2" to get great sex. You can stop girls comming out of a metro station and easily pull one out for the same amout or less and have her for a couple of hours or the whole day. YMMV.

Especially if you are going to live ther like someone posted earlier. I recommend enrolling in "Forma" gym because they have better deals for a 3-4 months inscription. Eat where the locals eat and start inviting local girls..[/QUOTE]Preach! I like the way you think! I think it's mostly the language barrier. I'd love to do this.

If my Spanish was actually good. I'm totally down to be a wingman for this, where do I sign up!

So last week, Saturday 3-4pm, I went to Alfie. It was busy! About 7 guys waiting around. Lots of girls on the line up too. They actually have a menu printed in English that they show you (even includes a 15 minute option). Choose my girl, and after 20 mins of waiting a room finally is available. She speaks Engligh! (she lived in China for a couple of years) and I committed to 30 mins. I was done in under 15 so said to her to convert my session to a 15 minute one and she can keep the extra as a tip. Sure enough she did that for me but just walked away after that (she didn't want the tip?)

Anyway, after my bad experience with Sexy Fantasia 1, I decided to go back to my tried and tested place Sexy Fantasia. Place is great. Straight to the point. I am shown my line up (the girl from last week was there. Looking hot. Looks like Aishwariya Rai's (Miss World?) younger sister). I like variety so I choose another stunner. Totally my type.

In the room she is great! Doing things to turn me on. Reallly working it (I am thinking I am going to take this girl everyday from now on). Then its time for the main event. Doggy style. I am not rough or anything, actually on the contrary. I shoot my load in under 60 seconds and then the nightmare starts. I pull out and the condom had broken! She freaks out and runs straight for the toilet. And tried to wash her pu$$why out. She is freaking out and I am staying calm because there is nothing that can be done now (Well they provided the condom. Their fault for using cheap condoms. But try and explain that in Spanish. When I can't speak Spanish). I only have to worry about getting STDs, but she has to worry about STD and pregnancy. Again what can I do? She is freaking out. Not agressive. Just worried and scared. Anyway, the short of it is that I give her my phone number. She then asks for 40k pesos for douche, etc (I couldn't understand what else she was saying).

I re-neg with 20k. She readily agrees. I had 19k in my spare change pocket so I just giver her that. She leaves the room and tells the other girls. I am getting ready to make a quick exit before things get messy. I get dressed, walk out of the room, say a guilty goodbye to everyone (although the situation not my fault in anyway whatsoever but I can't explain that to them in Spanish).

Why me!

I hope I don't have any STDs and now not sure I can go back to my fav casa again!

[QUOTE=BlueChange; 1553904]Preach! I like the way you think! I think it's mostly the language barrier. I'd love to do this.

If my Spanish was actually good. I'm totally down to be a wingman for this, where do I sign up![/QUOTE]Not that fast cowboys; Unfortunately is not that simple and easy, most of the girls that go out with Brasil won't even look back to you. Is not only the language barrier, is the look, the personality and your play. 20k would be insulting and not even a quick BJ would do it.

Well, maybe if they are ugly or fat. Maybe then, but you can find them in any cheap casa.

So my advice is to save you the embarrassment and change the concept that every single girl in Medellin is a cheap puta for your own pleasure. Yeah women love sex, even the most catholic and conservative. But as in any part of the world they love it with the guys they like. 20k is a symbolic way to accept that they like you and would have sex with you even for free. Do you guys think that would be your case? Honestly? I know this is South America, and the living is hard and salaries are ridiculous, but still been planet earth, and girls in any place of the planet act very similar, (Well, except in the Muslim world but because of their culture not because they don't like sex). Would you try to ask a girl in NY for 20 dollar paid sex right in front of a Campus?
If you want to be a stud for a week try Asia; Asian girls find attractive and appealing white dudes (except Filipinas) ,, you may have a better shot there than Medellin, but also, Asian girls are not as hot as our Latinas .. so is all relative as Einstein said..

If you don't fill the prototype of a good player in Medellin just be happy with what you can get. There are plenty of places where the rules are established and the best part is that is legal and safe. (Not decease safe hahaha OK!? You still need to wear the fking condom for Christ's sake)

[QUOTE=SBeach25;1553576]Keep in mind that this is a Catholic community. This week is a holiday so some yes some if not many of the girls will not be working. As far as starting point, what do you mean?[/QUOTE]There will be three of us, we are in our thirties. We are landing late around 10 and hoping to be out around midnight. What's the best starting point to meet some 8, 9 or dimes.

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1552818]Someone asked on this site a few weeks ago if there is a massage place with happy ending. I found a good one on this trip. Most of you I am sure have heard of it. It is in a high end mall and is advertised as a legit place. It is 80K for one hour of excellent massage followed by a whisper and a slow HJ. I gave her a 30K tip inside the room and 10K outside, in front of the manager. They had three girls, all professionally dressed, in their 20s. All are solid 7s.

You guys know that I all about sharing but since this place advertises itself as legit, I am a bit hesitant to post the name on the forum. PM me and seniors that spend a lot of time in MDE can give input if I am over thinking this or if I am correct and should keep it on the low.[/QUOTE]Can you give more details of this place, I know one that's close to a metro station in a mall also, so it's probably the same place, to get a HJ it depends on the girl.

[QUOTE=Zozo The Thief;1554279]There will be three of us, we are in our thirties. We are landing late around 10 and hoping to be out around midnight. What's the best starting point to meet some 8, 9 or dimes.[/QUOTE]Y'es, everywhere. In my short time here I've checked out 4 areas, El Centro, Laurels Estadio, Parque LLeras and San Diego. I recommend at night do the usual for first timers like myself just to go straight to Parque LLeras and sample the local seen you will love it. How you monger depends on you. Also get a phone here in case you do meet some locals and you can call them. I've learned that they LOVE facebook and whats app here.

[quote=dealdo; 1554265]not that fast cowboys; unfortunately is not that simple and easy, most of the girls that go out with brasil won't even look back to you. is not only the language barrier, is the look, the personality and your play. 20k would be insulting and not even a quick bj would do it.

well, maybe if they are ugly or fat. maybe then, but you can find them in any cheap casa.

so my advice is to save you the embarrassment and change the concept that every single girl in medellin is a cheap puta for your own pleasure. yeah women love sex, even the most catholic and conservative. but as in any part of the world they love it with the guys they like. 20k is a symbolic way to accept that they like you and would have sex with you even for free. do you guys think that would be your case? honestly? i know this is south america, and the living is hard and salaries are ridiculous, but still been planet earth, and girls in any place of the planet act very similar, (well, except in the muslim world but because of their culture not because they don't like sex). would you try to ask a girl in ny for 20 dollar paid sex right in front of a campus?

if you want to be a stud for a week try asia; asian girls find attractive and appealing white dudes (except filipinas) , you may have a better shot there than medellin, but also, asian girls are not as hot as our latinas. so is all relative as einstein said.

if you don't fill the prototype of a good player in medellin just be happy with what you can get. there are plenty of places where the rules are established and the best part is that is legal and safe. (not decease safe hahaha ok! you still need to wear the fking condom for christ's sake) [/quote]so on day 4, just walking about with some fellow mongers and i were just chit chatting down the street and we see a couple of girsl who keep eyeing us. i decided to pull my charm out of my hat. we walk straight up to the girls and they were friendly and interested in meeting up. unfortunately one was **** and that killed my mood. my fellow monger did however was able to get the other girls name and number so he is in a good start. lesson learned? these girls are very open and friendly. they appreciate it when you find them attractive and give them attention. just keep giving that smile and do it in a joking way and they will want to go out on a date with you.

Hello gents,

Last month I was in Medellin and went to Blue Room which is on level with Abydos & Energy usually for girl selection and pricing (cop $100,000) for the hour. The last time I had been there I was surprised that they had a couple of very nicely tanned gals from Panama. So I was hoping to find something of interest there again.

Now I know many of you, like myself, like thinner girls. I mean I do like the curvy girls (not that they are heavy) and enjoy the way their bodies look. But for action in the sack, I prefer the "spinners".

So, on a Friday afternoon, my buddy and I go to Blue Room and have a seat and order a couple of beers and then wait for the line up. The girls come out in short blue smocks by the way as opposed to the white ones that the girls at Abydos & Energy wear wen they are presented.

The very first girl that comes out seals my deal. She is petite and cute as a button, had a sweet smile with dimpled cheeks and the kinda body I love. My friend immediately says to me "That's yours for sure". I gladly to agree with him. As far as the other girls, there were no girls from Panama this time and they were pretty but my friend declines and says he'll wait for me though.

So I take this creature from heaven and head off to the room. The room I had, by the way, was very spacious and also had large wall mirrors and big sex machine / apparatus.

Anyway, right from the time I saw this girl I knew I had seen her somewhere before. But I couldn't pin point it. Then while I was in the shower I dawned on me who she was. This was the model Andrea Hernosa. She modeled for a website (which I won't name for certain reasons). So now with that in mind I was looking forward to see how she performed. Now, I must say that she does not seem to have any extraordinary skills but it's understandable. She's only 18 and not that seasoned yet. But she is willing to do any position and even enjoyed giving the the sex machine a go (which I will not do again, it's a younger man's toy).

I was satisfied with the overall performance. Heck I was happy just to look at her gorgeous body. Although her body is in tip top shape, the one things is it is apparent that she has had a C-section. The scar is a bit wider than most I've seen on girls which is unfortunate. It's my guess that her being pregnant and eventually having a child is why she left modeling.

Anyway, I have included a link to a video she made. There are several on line. And yes the agency she worked for is embedded in the video so the moderators may or may not let it appear in this post.

[url]http://motherless.com/G51B8284/E1A28FD[/url]

Cheers,

Cubanut

I'm not going into details as I have already done so on another site. I just want all those out there who as I go into foreign countries to monger. Don't fall in love and remember the words in the title. This was an exact qquote from a fellow student I just hung out with. Keep things in perspective guys.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;1554370]I'm not going into details as I have already done so on another site. I just want all those out there who as I go into foreign countries to monger. Don't fall in love and remember the words in the title. This was an exact qquote from a fellow student I just hung out with. Keep things in perspective guys.[/QUOTE]Let the girl manipulate you. And then you manipulate her even more. That's the Pirate trick! Fall in love with 2 novias! That's shouldn't be so hard after all! It's very delightful actually!

My Colombian non-piracy female friend: "Jack, en Colombia es muy dificil quedar fiel", in Colombia it's very hard to stay faithful.

It's not just gringos. There's always a lot of lust in the air in Colombia! Always!

I'll be in Medellin tomorrow, I need a hook up on ladies. Money isn't a issue.

Dealdo,

I do agree with you that in Asia caucasians have that appeal factor and you will definitely get the most attention from the women; however, I disagree that you do not think that white dudes or (caucasians) don't have the same appeal to Filipinas as to other countries. I have been there several times, and have good looking girls hit on me, and ended up hooking up with them that night for GFE at no cost. This did not even occur in Thailand, there was always a cost associated with the girls. I have traveled to many pro and non-pro countries, but meeting girls in the Philippines is like shooting fish in a barrel.

[QUOTE=StudBucket; 1554466]Dealdo,

I do agree with you that in Asia caucasians have that appeal factor and you will definitely get the most attention from the women; however, I disagree that you do not think that white dudes or (caucasians) don't have the same appeal to Filipinas as to other countries. I have been there several times, and have good looking girls hit on me, and ended up hooking up with them that night for GFE at no cost. This did not even occur in Thailand, there was always a cost associated with the girls. I have traveled to many pro and non-pro countries, but meeting girls in the Philippines is like shooting fish in a barrel.[/QUOTE]You maybe right. I just said what a veteran monger in Philippines told me. I never do mongering in Asia, is just not my taste. So I have no more info than what friends tell me. He said in Manila Asian dudes from rich countries have the preference and white dudes are not that lucky in his experience (he is white) ,

But well the point is that. In Latin America you have to be handsome or a real good player to get a hottie for free or almost free, remember that these countries are full of very handsome dudes and real good players and they are locals, They know what girls like, want etc.

Average girls, well, average guys can have a shot just like everywhere else.

In another hand if you are willing to spend a lot of money with them, then you are talking again about paying in another way and more than a flat rate.

This is just logic stuff, and is been said soo much that sounds redundant, Is just 101 mongering, If that was the real case the whole industry wouldn't be that successful. And is a big profit industry everywhere, just because you can't fuck cheap or free all the hotties you see walking on the malls and the cheerleaders from your college. Medellin also is just life, not utopia land. Want a hottie and you are not a player you have to pay the price in many ways.

[QUOTE=GhostFace12;1554455]I'll be in Medellin tomorrow, I need a hook up on ladies. Money isn't a issue.[/QUOTE]GhostFace12,

A thousand posts of information. I figure that's about what is on this Medellin forum. But still there are those (like GhostFace12) that either do not care to or have the time to read through even just a few of them.

So instead of ripping into GhostFace12 as I'm sure many may want to. I'm going to make this as simple as possible.

Go to.

[url]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/url]

And at the top right of the page you will see both a USA and Colombian number to call. Call and either Alexis or Juan will answer. Book a room there (2 day minimum). Show up, check in. Hook up!

Get laid often my friend,

Cubanut

[QUOTE=C Jack Sparrow; 1554446]Let the girl manipulate you. And then you manipulate her even more. That's the Pirate trick! Fall in love with 2 novias! That's shouldn't be so hard after all! It's very delightful actually!

My Colombian non-piracy female friend: "Jack, en Colombia es muy dificil quedar fiel", in Colombia it's very hard to stay faithful.

It's not just gringos. There's always a lot of lust in the air in Colombia! Always![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Dealdo; 1554491]You maybe right. I just said what a veteran monger in Philippines told me. I never do mongering in Asia, is just not my taste. So I have no more info than what friends tell me. He said in Manila Asian dudes from rich countries have the preference and white dudes are not that lucky in his experience (he is white) ,

But well the point is that. In Latin America you have to be handsome or a real good player to get a hottie for free or almost free, remember that these countries are full of very handsome dudes and real good players and they are locals, They know what girls like, want etc.

Average girls, well, average guys can have a shot just like everywhere else.

In another hand if you are willing to spend a lot of money with them, then you are talking again about paying in another way and more than a flat rate.

This is just logic stuff, and is been said soo much that sounds redundant, Is just 101 mongering, If that was the real case the whole industry wouldn't be that successful. And is a big profit industry everywhere, just because you can't fuck cheap or free all the hotties you see walking on the malls and the cheerleaders from your college. Medellin also is just life, not utopia land. Want a hottie and you are not a player you have to pay the price in many ways.[/QUOTE]I am amused and somewhat dismayed to read stuff like this. Starting with "just logic stuff" one has to determine what you're looking for. If it's good sex with a sex worker, they are ubiquitous in Medellin. The sought for "GFE" experience has got to be informed by what the vast majority of these girls long for, and that is some type of security and care. Unless you're the one a year sex tourist, it's always a problem of too many girls, not enough. Free? There is no free pussy, never was and never will be. There are always expectations, and it's dishonorable to lie about your intentions. If you find a girl or girls that you enjoy sharing time with, simply show her a little care. And that reasonably requires some money. There is always a need, and you must learn to say "no."

And, this is not a "paying the price in many ways." To the contrary, it's an opportunity to actually help someone in her life. The attention and affection will be free flowing. And this small exercise in suppression of the ego will make you feel better about yourself, and the sex with be much better.

Try spreading a little good energy.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1554500]I am amused and somewhat dismayed to read stuff like this. Starting with "just logic stuff" one has to determine what you're looking for. If it's good sex with a sex worker, they are ubiquitous in Medellin. The sought for "GFE" experience has got to be informed by what the vast majority of these girls long for, and that is some type of security and care. Unless you're the one a year sex tourist, it's always a problem of too many girls, not enough. Free? There is no free pussy, never was and never will be. There are always expectations, and it's dishonorable to lie about your intentions. If you find a girl or girls that you enjoy sharing time with, simply show her a little care. And that reasonably requires some money. There is always a need, and you must learn to say "no."

And, this is not a "paying the price in many ways." To the contrary, it's an opportunity to actually help someone in her life. The attention and affection will be free flowing. And this small exercise in suppression of the ego will make you feel better about yourself, and the sex with be much better.

Try spreading a little good energy.[/QUOTE]I had a very hard time trying to understand your points of view, too much sweetness for my testosterone I guess.
What are we looking for?? is this a rel question ?? what we look in this board? Flash news, we look for paid sex, don't we? some look for hard core sex some others for some soft or even just a HJ,, is all just paid sex.. If we are looking for romance and sht, well, there are plenty of harmony dot coms around.. I'm cynic I know, but I just like the naked truth, no tags or camouflages, You just said it, for average monger there is no free or cheap sex with hot girls. The tenderness that you always pour here is Ok for you, not for me, and this is a board for paid sex and not a forum of philosophy, is not a forum for romance and kissy kiss hobby. I know some dudes like to share their conquers and good luck just for the addition to show off and feed their enormous ego, make you think they are better than you and me, and Is Ok wile it doesn't mislead us to believe that the rabbit's hole is the gate to our reality. Your feeling of helping people is Ok, is nice, I won't do this because I know most of them will be fucking their BFs and laughing behind my back wile I'm gone. That happens more often than we like to accept. If somebody is poor and have no money to "support" their "studies" and you are not a good looking dude or a very good player, you simply don't have a slim chance of bed them. It would be so cool if girls really look at your "soul" and warm sensitive heart. That is not the case of most girls in the planet, especially hot girls. And this would be the last sentence I will answer, no need to agree or disagree with me. Is just my way of helping really. My time of believing in fairy tales is way gone. If we have romances or we are very lucky in love I don't think this is the right place to disclose them out. Just my point of view. Not bad energy,, is just the sad truth just like is truth the volcanoes and natural disasters is something that is real even though we don't like it..

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1554497]GhostFace12,

A thousand posts of information. I figure that's about what is on this Medellin forum. But still there are those (like GhostFace12) that either do not care to or have the time to read through even just a few of them.

So instead of ripping into GhostFace12 as I'm sure many may want to. I'm going to make this as simple as possible.

Go to.

[url]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/url]

And at the top right of the page you will see both a USA and Colombian number to call. Call and either Alexis or Juan will answer. Book a room there (2 day minimum). Show up, check in. Hook up!

Get laid often my friend,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Now this is what a would say is useful information. Something everybody in the board can get for sure, Thanks Cuba. Girls in the pics are not all that but I guess is just an example. More good info, less stress.

[QUOTE=GhostFace12;1554455]I'll be in Medellin tomorrow, I need a hook up on ladies. Money isn't a issue.[/QUOTE]I suggest you upgrade so that others can PM you and send you information. I'm down here for a min of 3 months as well as others for shorter or longer periods. Please read through some postings on locations and names. You will have a better time is you can contact others who are experienced here. I'm still learning but getting the general idea.

[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1554678]I had a very hard time trying to understand your points of view, too much sweetness for my testosterone I guess.

What are we looking for? Is this a rel question? What we look in this board? Flash news, we look for paid sex, don't we? Some look for hard core sex some others for some soft or even just a HJ, is all just paid sex. If we are looking for romance and sht, well, there are plenty of harmony dot coms around. I'm cynic I know, but I just like the naked truth, no tags or camouflages, You just said it, for average monger there is no free or cheap sex with hot girls. The tenderness that you always pour here is Ok for you, not for me, and this is a board for paid sex and not a forum of philosophy, is not a forum for romance and kissy kiss hobby. I know some dudes like to share their conquers and good luck just for the addition to show off and feed their enormous ego, make you think they are better than you and me, and Is Ok wile it doesn't mislead us to believe that the rabbit's hole is the gate to our reality. Your feeling of helping people is Ok, is nice, I won't do this because I know most of them will be fucking their BFs and laughing behind my back wile I'm gone. That happens more often than we like to accept. If somebody is poor and have no money to "support" their "studies" and you are not a good looking dude or a very good player, you simply don't have a slim chance of bed them. It would be so cool if girls really look at your "soul" and warm sensitive heart. That is not the case of most girls in the planet, especially hot girls. And this would be the last sentence I will answer, no need to agree or disagree with me. Is just my way of helping really. My time of believing in fairy tales is way gone. If we have romances or we are very lucky in love I don't think this is the right place to disclose them out. Just my point of view. Not bad energy, is just the sad truth just like is truth the volcanoes and natural disasters is something that is real even though we don't like it.[/QUOTE]How is this self proclaimed "cynic" attitude working for you? When we advise about the "truth" it is simply a reflection of what we see in ourselves. And, as an aside, this self proclaimed "this would be the last sentence I will answer" are the words of a control freak. If you can't defend your philosophy, don't write about it.

I'm certainly not critical of P4P. My point is simply that sex with a beautiful girl in Medellin is easier than finding a good pizza, a lot easier. At some point in time it is more rewarding to engage with another human being at a more substantive level than sticking your dick into a female body. We choose what we think. We choose what we feel. I can understand why you find no tranquility, peace or satisfaction, other than getting your rocks off, with the explanation of "we don't like it" as if cold and impersonal treatment is the inevitable. Obviously, people cannot look at a "warm and sensitive heart" if it doesn't exist. But, my amigo, that's your choice.

Only good energy. We all have it if we choose to spread it around.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1554768]How is this self proclaimed "cynic" attitude working for you? When we advise about the "truth" it is simply a reflection of what we see in ourselves. And, as an aside, this self proclaimed "this would be the last sentence I will answer" are the words of a control freak. If you can't defend your philosophy, don't write about it.

I'm certainly not critical of P4P. My point is simply that sex with a beautiful girl in Medellin is easier than finding a good pizza, a lot easier. At some point in time it is more rewarding to engage with another human being at a more substantive level than sticking your dick into a female body. We choose what we think. We choose what we feel. I can understand why you find no tranquility, peace or satisfaction, other than getting your rocks off, with the explanation of "we don't like it" as if cold and impersonal treatment is the inevitable. Obviously, people cannot look at a "warm and sensitive heart" if it doesn't exist. But, my amigo, that's your choice.

Only good energy. We all have it if we choose to spread it around.[/QUOTE][url]Http://medellinliving.com/best-pizza-in-medellin/[/url]

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1554768]How is this self proclaimed "cynic" attitude working for you? When we advise about the "truth" it is simply a reflection of what we see in ourselves. And, as an aside, this self proclaimed "this would be the last sentence I will answer" are the words of a control freak. If you can't defend your philosophy, don't write about it.

I'm certainly not critical of P4P. My point is simply that sex with a beautiful girl in Medellin is easier than finding a good pizza, a lot easier. At some point in time it is more rewarding to engage with another human being at a more substantive level than sticking your dick into a female body. We choose what we think. We choose what we feel. I can understand why you find no tranquility, peace or satisfaction, other than getting your rocks off, with the explanation of "we don't like it" as if cold and impersonal treatment is the inevitable. Obviously, people cannot look at a "warm and sensitive heart" if it doesn't exist. But, my amigo, that's your choice.

Only good energy. We all have it if we choose to spread it around.[/QUOTE]LT,

Sorry but was not that just what I wrote: sex is easy to find, even with good looking girls. It's in the Colombian mentality, culture. How do you then expect that girl to be faithful to you when are being home working, maybe for months, in the US?

You must counter-manipulate!

LT, you are a good man, that I respect, but Colombianas and especially paisas are what they are. They are horney, often good-looking and prefer to fuck. Than that monotonic low-paid work! That it don't last very long is another story.

[QUOTE=C Jack Sparrow; 1554871]LT,

Sorry but was not that just what I wrote: sex is easy to find, even with good looking girls. It's in the Colombian mentality, culture. How do you then expect that girl to be faithful to you when are being home working, maybe for months, in the US?

You must counter-manipulate!

LT, you are a good man, that I respect, but Colombianas and especially paisas are what they are. They are horney, often good-looking and prefer to fuck. Than that monotonic low-paid work! That it don't last very long is another story.[/QUOTE]Jack, we don't disagree. We have different expectations. I don't expect monogamy, just honesty. It is unrealistic and unnecessary to require faithfulness. I spend a lot of time in Colombia and have 5 or 6 girls that I enjoy spending time with. Several have boyfriends, but I don't believe the novios are having sex with them while I am. If so, they would have to go through my ass. Excuse my rude example, but why be concerned about what a girl does when she's not with you? Thank God, they are horny, beautiful and love sex.

Only good energy, amigo

Ok, is ok to disagree. This is not an answer or a defense, Just pointing the compass to the magnetic pole.

We do not need to know or to waste too much time and details were you can find a free or almost free hot paisa in Medellin. This is not the purpose of this forum I guess.

Is just ego inflation really.

When I do that; (yes, occasionally I do it too) I don't need the ISG for that, makes no sense at all. You just need to take a taxi and ask the driver to take you to the place where hotties usually go, Not needed to be a rocket scientist to figure this out.

Same as Russia or Paris or any other place in earth, Metro stations, Universities, parks, malls, restaurants, cafes, bars, night clubs. Is just common sense. Who doesn't figure this out come on? How to wow a girl is just another topic that is just too annoying in so many levels. How to make them fall in love with us, how much they love to have sex with us and how to make them come 4 times in a road. Most of the time is just our fantasy mind and what they makes us think for the purpose of you keep coming back, repeating, and investing in them in so many ways.

I do not treat them bad and I'm not a cold freezer and completely insensitive, I'm not an extreme cheap bastard either. But is just my private life which I prefer to keep it like that: private.

So everybody: Do your thing, have fun, be ripped off, be scammed, be manipulated, be generous or be cheap, fall in love or not, be freak or tender, what ever suites you, as long you don't harm, force or infect anybody. But please if is not useful for the board just keep it to yourself. If the way of having good sex for you is supporting a family is OK, is your money and your life, but would be very hard for all of the rest to do the same, I wonder in what philosophy fits having paid sex and rise to the Nirvana with good energy? .

I have said it before, tender is s good person but has so many buts also. All that extra sugar kind of pall on a little bit too much. And this is in a very cool way to say it. Not looking for a girls scene or a sensitive tantrum. Just to bring some sense to the drama that grows to high and often in the board.

Geez, I thought It was all about the cash?

Gents,

Can we all just agree that we all have different opinions of what is an 8, 9 or a 10? Can we all agree that everyone's mileage may very with any Paisa no matter what she looks like?

And really to the point. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Because, over and over, we read about how so many guys are banging hot Paisas and yet never see any photos of these babes (supposedly out of respect fro privacy? LOL!). So I for one don't give much credance to the majority of picture less hotties.

Just to make a point. There are guys on this board and in the outside world who would gladly take one of these sets of two girls in these 2 pictures over the other two. And like wise the reverse direction as well. And no matter which set they took, there would be a post starting with "I banged the hottest set of babes. Etc. But no pictures no back up the claim.

Hell, get me drunk enough and I'd probably do all four at the same time. (Yeah, I know I need help).

Cheers,

Cubanut

Hey fellas,

I really enjoy this forum. Let's keep it friendly. There's too many hot girls in Medellin.

To be upset.

[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1554265]Not that fast cowboys; Unfortunately is not that simple and easy, most of the girls that go out with Brasil won't even look back to you. Is not only the language barrier, is the look, the personality and your play. 20k would be insulting and not even a quick BJ would do it.

If you want to be a stud for a week try Asia; Asian girls find attractive and appealing white dudes (except Filipinas) , you may have a better shot there than Medellin, but also, Asian girls are not as hot as our Latinas. So is all relative as Einstein said.

If you don't fill the prototype of a good player in Medellin just be happy with what you can get. There are plenty of places where the rules are established and the best part is that is legal and safe. (Not decease safe hahaha OK! You still need to wear the fking condom for Christ's sake) [/QUOTE]So I guess that what you are saying is that if you want to visit a country with cheap working girls and lower standards, go to Asia? Yeah, ok. Glad you are here to be the sensible one.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1555111]So I guess that what you are saying is that if you want to visit a country with cheap working girls and lower standards, go to Asia? Yeah, ok. Glad you are here to be the sensible one.[/QUOTE]It was English bro. What I said is that if you want to pay 10 bucks for a cute girl and have the time of your life, been treated like you are kind of handsome even though in your country you are average, you have a way better chance in Asia, NOT in Medellin (also Asian girls are not as hot as paisas for my personal taste). In Medellin requires invest more than that. But of course you also can get it, but just not for 20k COL. And that was an advise for any regular dude that goes over seas to get pussy, mostly because is cheaper and can't get it that easy in their own country. Is not a mystery that, that is the reason for many dudes here. Not mocking anybody, just trying to help and open eyes. Is Ok not to be an stud or a Casanova. 90% of the population in the planet we are in that part. So I don't have any tabus to talk about it. Is just normal and common, so please sensitive guys, do not get offended and just take a good advise like it is. (So many sensitive dudes fckk prozac is going bad hahaha)

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1554961]Gents,

Can we all just agree that we all have different opinions of what is an 8, 9 or a 10? Can we all agree that everyone's mileage may very with any Paisa no matter what she looks like?

And really to the point. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Because, over and over, we read about how so many guys are banging hot Paisas and yet never see any photos of these babes (supposedly out of respect fro privacy? LOL!). So I for one don't give much credance to the majority of picture less hotties.

Just to make a point. There are guys on this board and in the outside world who would gladly take one of these sets of two girls in these 2 pictures over the other two. And like wise the reverse direction as well. And no matter which set they took, there would be a post starting with "I banged the hottest set of babes. Etc. But no pictures no back up the claim.

Hell, get me drunk enough and I'd probably do all four at the same time. (Yeah, I know I need help).

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Hahahah yeah I can say I did the Davalos twins. How about 40k for each? Raising the bar ;) . The other Botox girls. Well, I will need a LOT of tequila to do them at the same time hahahaha. Cuba Mofo you made me laugh bad when I saw those pics. And very good point. If we can't show their pictures or tell the people where to find them I guess is better to keep them as a secret. The girls I can recommend now are not that public. So only to some dudes that share info and are cool can get access to the archive. BUT I'm not the only one that know most of them. I may know couple that are some "eventually" work and many dudes here have had the pics and info via mail. So is not my fault that they don't want to pass the phone to everybody. There are some girls they act like this and is also respectful. At the end is their cushy and not ours..

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1554500]If you find a girl or girls that you enjoy sharing time with, simply show her a little care. And that reasonably requires some money. There is always a need, and you must learn to say "no."

And, this is not a "paying the price in many ways." To the contrary, it's an opportunity to actually help someone in her life. The attention and affection will be free flowing. And this small exercise in suppression of the ego will make you feel better about yourself, and the sex with be much better.[/QUOTE]From 30 minute sessions in El Centro casas, to nighttime strip clubs, to The Mansion girls, to Internet girls, etc, etc the connections that you make are all that count. This is true in any p4p scene. Obviously there are some expectation differences between a 30 minute session and an all night multiple session date.

I agree with what WiltTheStilt said in a previous post that Paisas are either greedy bitches or have an "ingrained humility" about them. Some of the girls that start with an ingrained humility will lose some of their humility and this is par for the course in P4P.

Although there are some ridiculously hot girls in Medellin, the thing that I like most is the sheer volume of 7-8 type girls. Of these girls I have found that many can be "reached" unlike the mindless droids that I have met in the many of other scenes that I have been in. This is important for me as I have extended time in Medellin. All of my regulars have changed something about them in a show of respect for me.

BrasilSoccer commented on meeting the regular type girls. Sure, you can meet these girls and spend $20-$30 by entertaining them and then get laid afterwards if you have the right skills to do this. I am in my late 30's, better than average looking, and in good shape and have done some of this. For you guys out there that haven't, you aren't missing much as many of these girls are a pain in the ass. I have found that when money is put into the situation directly these girls can be pushed in ways that regular girls can't. Guys, do as you will in this area.

Unlike some guys, I pull for all of you to have great experiences with the girls in Medellin. I also applaud you guys on short trips who stay focused on the P4P scene and don't try to get too involved with trying to meet regular girls. IMO the two groups of guys who do the worst in Medellin are the guys that come here looking for regular girlfriends and the young good looking guys, many of whom have good Spanish, who are cheap and don't have the right mentality to do well with Colombian women.

Anyone know where is best place to buy Liquor in Poblado or surrounding areas? Or should I just buy it at supermarket or Duty Free like I have done in the past?

[QUOTE=DmeHcg;1555268]Anyone know where is best place to buy Liquor in Poblado or surrounding areas? Or should I just buy it at supermarket or Duty Free like I have done in the past?[/QUOTE]I like duty free I've been comparing prices these last few days to what I couldve bought at duty free and that was the best way to go. For me at least.

What is the average all night pricing in Medeliin assumming I do not get a girl from high end strip club? These days.

[QUOTE=DmeHcg;1555268]Anyone know where is best place to buy Liquor in Poblado or surrounding areas? Or should I just buy it at supermarket or Duty Free like I have done in the past?[/QUOTE]There are some things you cannot get in Poblado such as crown royal. Plus if its imported it will cost more. If you're ok and like the local stuff than I would wait to get here. I personally myself got it from Duty free at the connection. That way I didn't have to lug it around all the way back from the states. Plus it was a little cheaper at the Duty Free in Panama than US Duty free.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;1555286]There are some things you cannot get in Poblado such as crown royal. Plus if its imported it will cost more. If you're ok and like the local stuff than I would wait to get here. I personally myself got it from Duty free at the connection. That way I didn't have to lug it around all the way back from the states. Plus it was a little cheaper at the Duty Free in Panama than US Duty free.[/QUOTE]Well I noticed finding Johnny double black and Hennessy is impossible. I guess I'll stick to duty free for time being unless anyone has any other suggestions.

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1555216]I have found that when money is put into the situation directly these girls can be pushed in ways that regular girls can't. Guys, do as you will in this area.[/QUOTE]I always enjoy what you write. You've got an insight into these girls that few can claim. I have been trying to determine what you meant by the above statement. Your insight is respected and appreciated.

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1555216]BrasilSoccer commented on meeting the regular type girls. Sure, you can meet these girls and spend $20-$30 by entertaining them and then get laid afterwards if you have the right skills to do this. I am in my late 30's, better than average looking, and in good shape and have done some of this. For you guys out there that haven't, you aren't missing much as many of these girls are a pain in the ass. I have found that when money is put into the situation directly these girls can be pushed in ways that regular girls can't. Guys, do as you will in this area.

Unlike some guys, I pull for all of you to have great experiences with the girls in Medellin. I also applaud you guys on short trips who stay focused on the P4P scene and don't try to get too involved with trying to meet regular girls. IMO the two groups of guys who do the worst in Medellin are the guys that come here looking for regular girlfriends and the young good looking guys, many of whom have good Spanish, who are cheap and don't have the right mentality to do well with Colombian women.[/QUOTE]I totally agree that it takes lots of time and energy to pull off a 'regular type' girl in MDE on a short trip with lots of varying factors including age, looks, personality, language barrier, etc. Some people enjoy the challenge, some rather not waste their valuable time. That is what makes MDE great. There's always something for everyone. Going the non-pro route is definitely doable, just get out of gringo land! (El Poblado) I ventured out to Bello on the metro (stop is Nisquia station) and wow. Unfreakingbelievable. That's where lots of these mansion girls are from and even though I did a day trip, I was the only foreigner in sight (chino here) and being able to speak Spanish is a big plus, so start learning ahora! The locals were very friendly including the hotties in the mall and everything is so much cheaper!

I didn't have enough time to see more of Bello, but I enjoy the outskirts of Medellin. Check out Sabaneta, Envigado. Lots more to do and see than just Poblado and Lleras! Plan on going back in late July if anyone is down to hang out.

BTW. Checking out the Universities to go non pro hunting is definitely a good idea. I went there with my laptop, grabbed a table for lunch and bam. Let fate take its course (having good conversation starters helps). You wouldn't believe what some of these chicas wear going to school jajaja. Club clothes!

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1553874]How is going to working girl houses to find a chick to fuck is considered hunting? And this talk about pulling the trigger. Lmao You don't need to pull no trigger cowboy! Just pay the fee!

You want to hunt and really pull the trigger? Then go out to the malls, shopping centers, universities. Etc.

You don't need to go to overpriced bullshit *houses like "face2" to get great sex. You can stop girls comming out of a metro station and easily pull one out for the same amout or less and have her for a couple of hours or the whole day. YMMV.

Especially if you are going to live ther like someone posted earlier. I recommend enrolling in "Forma" gym because they have better deals for a 3-4 months inscription. Eat where the locals eat and start inviting local girls...[/QUOTE]Hey BrasilSoccer,

I reread your post and realized that I misquoted you as I thought you were talking about picking up regular girls without paying them. I see that you were talking about meeting girls for low payments outside of El Poblado. Yeah, there are a bunch of approaches to be taken to meeting girls. This is so individualized in Medellin. I agree with BrasilSoccer in that it is important to find some activities outside of El Poblado to get better connected to the culture. I spend the night at a girl's apartment, in Robledo Aures, about 3 nights a month. This is way up in the hills in a very poor section of Medellin. This decompresses me from upper class living in Laureles.

IMO the best situations that I have found are girls who enter the lower end of the P4P scene, on their own, and then decide within the first month that it is not for them. If you keep in contact with the girls these fruits I have found to be the most ripe. This is better than taking regular girls out without payment, meeting girls through friends, meeting regular girls through working girls, meeting girls in public places etc, etc. This is just my opinion. Many guys at Metro stations are left with their dick in their hand at the end of the day. For guys on short trips this can be frustrating. Most guys in Medellin are already frustrated that there isn't a stretch of bars, to build rapport with the girls, that is available in many of the other popular monger destinations. I have met many well traveled guys that look unsettled without this bar type scene. Also, some of these guys look good, are charismatic, yet want an ease of entry that just doesn't exist in Medellin. This is why The Mansion is so popular. In many other places a business like The Mansion would have no demand.

I will answer Legal Tender's question about pushing the girls with money and then I will get off my soapbox. I am one of the laziest mongers there is. I want my regular girls to fit in neat, organized boxes. My regular working girls show up at designated times, know what is expected of them, and there is a mutual respect. One thing that is for sure is that if there was no money involvement the emotions of the girls would be much more difficult to deal with. I honestly don't know how I could pull this off with regular girls. To each their own.

Good luck to all and happy mongering.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1555366]I didn't have enough time to see more of Bello, but I enjoy the outskirts of Medellin. Check out Sabaneta, Envigado. Lots more to do and see than just Poblado and Lleras! Plan on going back in late July if anyone is down to hang out.[/QUOTE]Those guys at Liquid Lounge have a bill waiting for you: A birthday bash thrown for a guy who didn't show up for his own birthday bash, LOL.

I was in town (January) and was contemplating on going to your birthday party, but passed on it (Steve seems to think you did as well, LOL). Good to see you are still around. We feared the worst.

For anyone stuck in town this week, Liquid will be open, and La Cueva at the Mansion will be closed so some Mansion girls are coming and we have new girls that will be hungry at Liquid this week.

Last night we had our first full meeting with 25 of our potential new strippers. Unfortunately only me and my 2 brothers were there, but we are getting closer to the full strip club opening. YES, it is still coming. May 16 Construction is progressing for the chica rooms and webcam sex, and when we open we will do away with the Ladies Night events except for special occasions.

[QUOTE=Av8r; 1555624]For anyone stuck in town this week, Liquid will be open, and La Cueva at the Mansion will be closed so some Mansion girls are coming and we have new girls that will be hungry at Liquid this week.

Last night we had our first full meeting with 25 of our potential new strippers. Unfortunately only me and my 2 brothers were there, but we are getting closer to the full strip club opening. YES, it is still coming. May 16 Construction is progressing for the chica rooms and webcam sex, and when we open we will do away with the Ladies Night events except for special occasions.[/QUOTE]What days / nights will la cueva be closed?

[QUOTE=DmeHcg;1555646]What days / nights will la cueva be closed?[/QUOTE]Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Maybe Sunday also, but depending on interest, we may be closed also.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1555440]Those guys at Liquid Lounge have a bill waiting for you: A birthday bash thrown for a guy who didn't show up for his own birthday bash, LOL.

I was in town (January) and was contemplating on going to your birthday party, but passed on it (Steve seems to think you did as well, LOL). Good to see you are still around. We feared the worst.[/QUOTE]Not sure who you are referring to, but that guy wasn't me. My birthday is in June BTW.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1555696]Not sure who you are referring to, but that guy wasn't me. My birthday is in June BTW.[/QUOTE]My apologies bro. It was the other Asian guy with the "R" screen name (Razor77).

He's been MIA since he went down to MDE in January. Hope nothing bad happened to him.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1555719]My apologies bro. It was the other Asian guy with the "R" screen name (Razor77).

He's been MIA since he went down to MDE in January. Hope nothing bad happened to him.[/QUOTE]Ok, no worries bro. I hope he made it back in one piece. Funny how I got my shit stolen on my first night everatMDE last summer and got some heat for it on this board, but at least I posted my experiences! And I've gone back multiple times since. Only in MDE. Live and learn!

Hey,

Just been out and about. I'm curious are the girls in the Mansion more natural or enhanced? I don't have a preference, just want to know what the average I.

One can expect?

Both. Many are natural, but there seems to be a trend of girls with perfect natural tits altering them to their own version of perfect. We all have our own opinion on this, but as a guy who loves naturals, I was sad to see Angelina and Yamila enhance their measurements. I thought they were perfect as is.

[QUOTE=BlueChange; 1555830]Hey,

Just been out and about. I'm curious are the girls in the Mansion more natural or enhanced? I don't have a preference, just want to know what the average I.

One can expect?[/QUOTE]

Just the same as any where else in Colombia, but you need a minimum 2 night room reservation to enter.

The girls are usually aged 18 to 21 years.

A. G.

[QUOTE=BlueChange; 1555830]Hey,

Just been out and about. I'm curious are the girls in the Mansion more natural or enhanced? I don't have a preference, just want to know what the average I.

One can expect?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlueChange; 1555830]Hey,

Just been out and about. I'm curious are the girls in the Mansion more natural or enhanced? I don't have a preference, just want to know what the average I.

One can expect?[/QUOTE]BC,

One can expect to have a great time with both natural and enhanced girls. Take your pick, their are plenty of both.

So contact the folks at the mansion (now called Hotel Medellin Plaza 1&2) and book the minimum 2 nights and not only will you be able to find your answer, but you can enjoy it as well.

[url]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/url]

Is the website. At the upper right hand is the local and USA numbers to call. Speak to either Alexa or Juan for a reservation. Show up and join the fun.

Cheers,

Cubanut

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1556024]Both. Many are natural, but there seems to be a trend of girls with perfect natural tits altering them to their own version of perfect. We all have our own opinion on this, but as a guy who loves naturals, I was sad to see Angelina and Yamila enhance their measurements. I thought they were perfect as is.[/QUOTE]

Last time (January) at the HMP I decided to finally do Yamil. She is a fixture at the HMP and she is very sexy but we never did business. Before my trip I saw some nude photos of her and I was impressed w / her beautiful shape, especially her tits. In the middle of my stay she was hanging around El Castillo and we talked and made a date for that night. An hour before the date she canceled saying she was tired from doing too much in the day. She added she was having computer problems and I thought it was a flakey thing to do but no problem. That was it, after that I wasn't interested and now I see she has changed her body w / the silicone. It is really too bad because she had sexy tits, that were perfectly shaped.

But here is the problem for these girls and I didn't help one day at the pool. I was w / a few of the girls at the pool around 2pm and I liked this young one w / big knockers. The other ladies were really trying to charm me for my business but I had a hankering for big tits. So the two I passed on knew I wanted big tits, I said it, I feel like big tits.

I did not say I wanted natural big tits so I can see the pressure they might feel when they're losing business to the big chested ladies. One of the other ladies was Yessica and we have been amigos on FB, I had never met her in person and thought she is very pretty w / a perfect body. The other chica was a very cute blonde and when I got back home I kind of wished I took both of them. They need to know that most guys want natural looking tits. It's not just the size that is important.

The young one was fine and her tits were just what I needed. But I did not help the cause that day by the pool. I wish I would have given Yamil another chance because now she is definitely not my type. I wish her well, her new tits are not natural looking at all. Hopefully some guys will like them enough to pay the price.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1555440]Those guys at Liquid Lounge have a bill waiting for you: A birthday bash thrown for a guy who didn't show up for his own birthday bash, LOL.

I was in town (January) and was contemplating on going to your birthday party, but passed on it (Steve seems to think you did as well, LOL). Good to see you are still around. We feared the worst.[/QUOTE]We don't care anyway. We love any excuse for a party, and we certainly don't charge extra if someone wants to make a celebration for any reason.

Just had a great night with a bunch of great guys, and a new set of girls that our new "Mamasan" is supplying. Admittedly, we need to cull a few of heavier cows from the herd, but there were still a solid group of cute chicas that got taken home.

Tomorrow night is lining up to be the same, although now that I know for sure we will have guys looking for girls, I can arrange some "special" entertainment.

I will be making my first trip to MDE in a couple of weeks. I choose to stay at the "Mansion" by recommendation and ease of access to the ladies. Where is the best place to exchange money as the places in the airport normally give the worse rate? Secondly, can anyone provide any recommended sight seeing tourist things that I can do that I can talk about to co-workers and family?

Thanks

1. Parque Arvi.

[url]http://medellinliving.com/parque-arvi-santa-elena/[/url]

2. Park that used to be Escobar's home.

[url]http://medellinliving.com/hacienda-napoles-pablo-escobar/[/url]

[url]http://www.slate.com/blogs/atlas_obscura/2013/06/26/pablo_escobar_s_former_manor_is_now_a_theme_park_watch_out_for_the_hippos.html[/url]

3. Pueblito Paisa.

[url]http://medellinliving.com/pueblito-paisa-cerro-nutibarra/[/url]

[QUOTE=PapaJoe; 1556498]I will be making my first trip to MDE in a couple of weeks. I choose to stay at the "Mansion" by recommendation and ease of access to the ladies. Where is the best place to exchange money as the places in the airport normally give the worse rate? Secondly, can anyone provide any recommended sight seeing tourist things that I can do that I can talk about to co-workers and family?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PapaJoe; 1556498]I will be making my first trip to MDE in a couple of weeks. I choose to stay at the "Mansion" by recommendation and ease of access to the ladies. Where is the best place to exchange money as the places in the airport normally give the worse rate? Secondly, can anyone provide any recommended sight seeing tourist things that I can do that I can talk about to co-workers and family?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I'm sure there must be a sticky somewhere to answer all these questions that get asked over and over again, but I really like taking people to El Penol, and the Metro Cable. Easy, cheap trips that give a nice glimpse of Medellin, and Colombia.

And it's much easier, and no more expensive to just use the ATMs here. I like Citibank because it will give you 2, 000, 000 per visit, but it does charge 10k cop.

[QUOTE=PapaJoe; 1556498]Secondly, can anyone provide any recommended sight seeing tourist things that I can do that I can talk about to co-workers and family?

Thanks[/QUOTE]When you arrive at the airport, find the tourist kiosk (next to the auto rental counters) and ask for a free tourist map of Medellin. It's a detailed map and useful if you want to take a self-guided tour of Medellin using the train, taxi, and walking. It even has recommended self-guided sightseeing routes. I was even able to use the map to figure out how to take the train to the downtown brothels.

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1556233]BC,

One can expect to have a great time with both natural and enhanced girls. Take your pick, their are plenty of both.

So contact the folks at the mansion (now called Hotel Medellin Plaza 1&2) and book the minimum 2 nights and not only will you be able to find your answer, but you can enjoy it as well.

[url]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/url]

Is the website. At the upper right hand is the local and USA numbers to call. Speak to either Alexa or Juan for a reservation. Show up and join the fun.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Lina Sancez on the left has had hip injections. Natural only on top.

Joe,

I'll change your $$ to pesos mate.

A. G.

[QUOTE=PapaJoe; 1556498]I will be making my first trip to MDE in a couple of weeks. I choose to stay at the "Mansion" by recommendation and ease of access to the ladies. Where is the best place to exchange money as the places in the airport normally give the worse rate? Secondly, can anyone provide any recommended sight seeing tourist things that I can do that I can talk about to co-workers and family?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Hi guys!

I am a French guy lost in Colombia.

I leave Medellin Monday.

Someone can give me few address where to drink quietly looking and nice girl before to finish drunk and bring the first who pass around me to my hotel?

Or better join me for a drink, first round on me!

Everything you need to know is most likely there. And a map to show you where.

[QUOTE=Dju13; 1556964]Hi guys!

I am a French guy lost in Colombia.

I leave Medellin Monday.

Someone can give me few address where to drink quietly looking and nice girl before to finish drunk and bring the first who pass around me to my hotel?

Or better join me for a drink, first round on me![/QUOTE]

In my recent cyber activity a have noticed a striking difference between paisas and Venezolanas, approaching them on dating sites.

Venezolanas behave well. I feel honored. I have got contact with beautiful girls I never, never thought would reply to me, and in very a friendly way.

At least 50% of Colombianas that really look good are webcammodels or prepagos looking for clients and many detest the idea of a relationship with a foreigner, even though there are many good looking guys amongst "us" for these beauties. Easy money and freedom before obligations, even if everything will be paid for as a Colombian trophy wife.

Which leads us to the Q: Has recent years great influx of "gringos" in Medellin made the beauties arrogant here? I. E. Is this a sign of a new trend of "social inflation". Paisas know their value and that there always comes more gringos than where here last time she was digging gold? While on the other hand their sisters in Venezuela has almost nobody visiting them.

(Luxury) Prostitution has then become a way of living during a large part of many girls lifes. And it has become a norm, more than an exception. Everybody knows about it, where all the money comes from, but since they benefit from it they look the other way and accept it. The girls act more and more professional and they are many more than before.

[QUOTE=World Travel 69;1557031]Everything you need to know is most likely there. And a map to show you where.[/QUOTE]You forgot to add that being that it is Santa Semana the map will be mostly useless.

I am sure there will be a few street walkers around the Calle and Carrera 50s.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1557053]You forgot to add that being that it is Santa Semana the map will be mostly useless.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=C Jack Sparrow; 1557037]In my recent cyber activity a have noticed a striking difference between paisas and Venezolanas, approaching them on dating sites.

Venezolanas behave well. I feel honored. I have got contact with beautiful girls I never, never thought would reply to me, and in very a friendly way.

At least 50% of Colombianas that really look good are webcam models or prepagos looking for clients and many detest the idea of a relationship with a foreigner, even though there are many good looking guys amongst "us" for these beauties. Easy money and freedom before obligations, even if everything will be paid for as a Colombian trophy wife.

Which leads us to the Q: Has recent years great influx of "gringos" in Medellin made the beauties arrogant here? I. E. Is this a sign of a new trend of "social inflation". Paisas know their value and that there always comes more gringos than where here last time she was digging gold? While on the other hand their sisters in Venezuela has almost nobody visiting them...[/QUOTE]CJS,

I believe you are over generalizing the situation. You can't compare the dating habits of a countries girls by what you find going on on a social website for one city. For example you compare Medellin to Venezuela. Instead of Medellin to let's say Caracas. And as far as a Paisa knowing her worth, I believe we all know that a "working" Paisa knows her worth, or at least thinks she does.

There is also the factor of what you are calling "dating" sites. Are you talking about FB? Because that is not a dating site. A true dating site like let's say Latin Euro.

[url]www.latineuro.com[/url]

Is probably the most forthcoming and honest international dating site I've encountered. I found them 20 years ago when they had a printed version instead of just the website. (Back then they had mostly girls from the recently collapsed USSR, they were outrageously gorgeous!). The company does it's best to pre-screen the girls to try and make sure they are truly looking to date / and or be in a serious relationship with a foreigner. So the chances are extremely low (in the Medellin section) that you will be meeting webcam girls or prepagos.

Now, when you say many Paisas detest the idea of a relationship with a foreigner, again this is a broad generalization (and you did say amongst the prepagos and webcam girls who are obviously just trying to make a buck). There is the age group that must be taken into consideration as well. There is always the exception but the average 18 to 25 year old Paisa is not going to date or be in a serious relationship with a foreigner if she has an active social network of friends. However, I believe that as the girl gets older, Let's say 25 to 30 +. She knows where she stands in the social ladder and if she has settled down with a fellow Colombian she is fine. But a still single one (and perhaps with a child or two) now sees her chances of social climb are far more better suited to being able to get into a relation with a foreigner than a local.

But let's get down to one very important reality. Why are you socializing with the Venezuelans? Are you planning to visit Caracas? Is that really a good idea especially at this time? I'm sure many of us mongers on this board would gladly hop over to Caracas (there's a one hour flight from Medellin that takes of from the valley and not Rio Negro). But at this time it does not makes sense to do so because of the safety issues (everyone I've ever spoken to that went to Caracas to monger has been mugged at least one time).

Stay horny my friends,

Cubanut

It is certainly quiet today but small pockets of commerce seem to be open. Basically, that means businesses situated near a church.

Any other like minded individuals stranded here in Medellin like me just looking for a beer and maybe some conversation in English should PM me.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1557370]Any other like minded individuals stranded here in Medellin like me just looking for a beer and maybe some conversation in English should PM me.

Thanks[/QUOTE]How can one be so lonely in Medellin?

[QUOTE=Dju13; 1556964]Hi guys!

I am a French guy lost in Colombia.

I leave Medellin Monday.

Someone can give me few address where to drink quietly looking and nice girl before to finish drunk and bring the first who pass around me to my hotel?

Or better join me for a drink, first round on me![/QUOTE]You should come to liquid tonight. It is typing with at least 8 girls and only a couple guys. Just finished watching 2 girls do a lesbian show

Edit; we now have 14 girls in about five guys. Another two girls are getting ready to do a lesbian Joan. Just f.y.i liquid has turned the corner and I swear that there will be girls hair every night from now on

[url]http://www.planet-love.com/index.php?topic=221.0[/url]

This site have profiles of girls so beautiful that it ridiculous! Why would they be there? It's considered to be a scam site, the most comments point in the same direction; the profiles are old, inaccurate and hence you will never get in contact with these state of the art models, that's the general impression reading reviews.

Save your time and money!

(but be happy to take a sneak-peak if you like to dream of dating pornstars)

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1557266]CJS,

I believe you are over generalizing the situation. You can't compare the dating habits of a countries girls by what you find going on on a social website for one city. For example you compare Medellin to Venezuela. Instead of Medellin to let's say Caracas. And as far as a Paisa knowing her worth, I believe we all know that a "working" Paisa knows her worth, or at least thinks she does.

There is also the factor of what you are calling "dating" sites. Are you talking about FB? Because that is not a dating site. A true dating site like let's say Latin Euro.

[url]www.latineuro.com[/url]

Is probably the most forthcoming and honest international dating site I've encountered. I found them 20 years ago when they had a printed version instead of just the website. (Back then they had mostly girls from the recently collapsed USSR, they were outrageously gorgeous!). The company does it's best to pre-screen the girls to try and make sure they are truly looking to date / and or be in a serious relationship with a foreigner. So the chances are extremely low (in the Medellin section) that you will be meeting webcam girls or prepagos.

Now, when you say many Paisas detest the idea of a relationship with a foreigner, again this is a broad generalization (and you did say amongst the prepagos and webcam girls who are obviously just trying to make a buck)...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=C Jack Sparrow; 1557538][url]http://www.planet-love.com/index.php?topic=221.0[/url]

This site have profiles of girls so beautiful that it ridiculous! Why would they be there? It's considered to be a scam site, the most comments point in the same direction; the profiles are old, inaccurate and hence you will never get in contact with these state of the art models, that's the general impression reading reviews.

Save your time and money!

(but be happy to take a sneak-peak if you like to dream of dating pornstars) [/QUOTE]CJS,

You base your entire decision that LatinEuro is a scam from 1 post that was made back in 2007? I'm not shilling for them but back when I first found them in 1994 it was mailing addresses and phone numbers they gave. I would think by now the contacts they give are now cell numbers and email.

Anyway it also is possible for you to Vania at Latin Euro directly to them (they give their address, email and phone number) if you have any questions or problems. And they also offer a live translator service with Mara to help. And quite frankly you can't really go wrong if you just try a few contacts.

So think what you want. But remember that there are many posts that are made on sites to discourage guys so they do not use the resources available. I'm thinking how many times I've read post about Colombia being an awful place to visit and all the girls are less than pretty and all scamers etc. All because someone wants to keep the place their personal playground.

I would consider LatinEuro just another option if you feel that FB is full of (or as you wrote before 50% full of scamers).

Cheers,

Cubanut

Hello Cubanut!

Actually I red several reports and they had one thing in common: Latineuro doesn't seem to remove old profiles or corrrect inaccurate one's.

There are a lot of hot babes on the big Colombiancupid and Latinamericancupid as well, but on Latineuro it was more like some profiles where created to make the visitor excited with a special button for "non-familiy-pictures", hence my reaction. Way to similar to Amolatina.

Expensive and complicated. Personally I hope these sites grown out of date soon.

But since I like experiments I will give it a try anyway, easy come easy go!

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1557679]CJS,

You base your entire decision that LatinEuro is a scam from 1 post that was made back in 2007? I'm not shilling for them but back when I first found them in 1994 it was mailing addresses and phone numbers they gave. I would think by now the contacts they give are now cell numbers and email.

Anyway it also is possible for you to Vania at Latin Euro directly to them (they give their address, email and phone number) if you have any questions or problems. And they also offer a live translator service with Mara to help. And quite frankly you can't really go wrong if you just try a few contacts.

So think what you want. But remember that there are many posts that are made on sites to discourage guys so they do not use the resources available. I'm thinking how many times I've read post about Colombia being an awful place to visit and all the girls are less than pretty and all scamers etc. All because someone wants to keep the place their personal playground.

I would consider LatinEuro just another option if you feel that FB is full of (or as you wrote before 50% full of scamers).

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3546-LIQUID-STRIP-[/url] (formerly-Liquid-Lounge) &p=1557794#post1557794

[QUOTE=C Jack Sparrow; 1557037]Which leads us to the Q: Has recent years great influx of "gringos" in Medellin made the beauties arrogant here? I. E. Is this a sign of a new trend of "social inflation". Paisas know their value and that there always comes more gringos than where here last time she was digging gold? While on the other hand their sisters in Venezuela has almost nobody visiting them.[/QUOTE]Of course man.

Anywhere there's an influx of foreign guys; gringos, europeos, etc, that ar scouring for the sexy locals, the girls definitely get spoiled with the attention.

No doubt, common sense.

Medellin is no exception.

Huge difference between now and say 10-15 years ago in Medellin when the gringo was scarce.

I can remember when the girls would giggle with delight that they actually got to see and meet a gringo.

Now I really have to lay on the charm to be noticed from the crowd LOL.

In Venezuela now, not many guys rushing to the chaos there, so the demand and desire for the foreign guy is high.

Just like in Brazil where I travel a lot to now.

When I'm in the heavy tourist cities, demand for me is lower.

When I hit the more obscure cities, I'm once again a superstar! LOL.

Good luck amigo.

Carefull in Caracas. Have eyes open on the back of your head.

[QUOTE=C Jack Sparrow; 1557775]Hello Cubanut!

Actually I red several reports and they had one thing in common: Latineuro doesn't seem to remove old profiles or corrrect inaccurate one's.

There are a lot of hot babes on the big Colombiancupid and Latinamericancupid as well, but on Latineuro it was more like some profiles where created to make the visitor excited with a special button for "non-familiy-pictures", hence my reaction. Way to similar to Amolatina.

Expensive and complicated. Personally I hope these sites grown out of date soon.

But since I like experiments I will give it a try anyway, easy come easy go![/QUOTE]Expensive and complicated? They give you the girls number to call or email to write to. How complicated is that? And the cost can be as little as 50 cents a contact. It's a pretty fair price I'd say for making the connection.

Again, Latin Euro has been at it for 25 years now. I assume more than a few happy customers is the reason. Let us know how your "experiment" in trying it goes.

Cheers,

Cubanut

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1557831]Of course man.

Anywhere there's an influx of foreign guys; gringos, europeos, etc, that ar scouring for the sexy locals, the girls definitely get spoiled with the attention.

No doubt, common sense.

Medellin is no exception.

Huge difference between now and say 10-15 years ago in Medellin when the gringo was scarce.

I can remember when the girls would giggle with delight that they actually got to see and meet a gringo.

Now I really have to lay on the charm to be noticed from the crowd LOL.

In Venezuela now, not many guys rushing to the chaos there, so the demand and desire for the foreign guy is high.

Just like in Brazil where I travel a lot to now.

When I'm in the heavy tourist cities, demand for me is lower.

When I hit the more obscure cities, I'm once again a superstar! LOL.

Good luck amigo.

Carefull in Caracas. Have eyes open on the back of your head.[/QUOTE]Sound and logical advice from one of the OG's on this board.

Thanks!

Camaro in Medellin:

I recently spent a week in Medellin. I have been 2 times prior as a tourist but this was my first time mongering. I have visited many other Latin American mongering destinations including Cartagena Cali. Originally this year's travel itinerary included trips to Cali for the Feria along with Baranquilla and Santa Marta but right now my heart is in the Dominican Republic so I may not return to Colombia after this trip we will see what the future holds. One of the primary reasons for going was to celebrate the other boards 10th anniversary and meet members of the board that I might not otherwise meet. This is not a comprehensive view of Medellin's PFP scene as there was insufficient time for me to do more but I hope the information contained within is sufficient. Some of the information contained in this synopsis is well known to veteran mongers but new information to others, my objective is to be as informative as possible to all who are interested.

Below I have listed my notes for your review:

The city:

I am sure the veterans are quite familiar with my research but I wanted to get some background on Medellin for my personal interest. My research has revealed the following:

Medellin is the second-largest city in Colombia and it has a population of 2. 4 million. Medellin is important to the region for its universities, commerce, industry, health services, festivals and nightlife. Since Medellin is located at 5, 000 ft above sea level, its average temperature is 72 degrees year round and is known as 'La Ciudad de la Eternal Primavera' or 'City of the Eternal Spring. '

Medellin was once known as the most violent city in the world, during the days of Pablo Escobar who was the world's primary nacro-trafficker in the 1980's. However, after the death of Escobar, crime rates in the city began to decrease. The era of huge bloody narco drug wars spilling into the public in Medellin are over. While drug trafficking is alive and well in Colombia the bloody drug wars have moved to Mexico. There is plenty of danger in Colombia but it's mostly something for locals to be concerned about there remains a high crime rate in the poorest communities.

The major neighborhoods in Medellin are as follows:

• Downtown- El Centro

• Prado.

• Robledo.

• Belen.

• Laureles-Estadio.

• Bello.

• Caldas.

• Itagui.

• Sabaneta.

• Envigado.

• El Poblado.

Many people from Medellin are referred to as Paisa's, people of mainly Spanish ancestry. There is a small Afro-Colombian and Zambo-Colombian (people of Indigenous and African descent) population. The Chocó Department is just west of Antioquia, and is home to many Afro-Colombians.

Risk Management & Safety:

Medellin is like a mirror it reflects you if you smile at Medellin it will smile back at you and if you frown at Medellin it will show you an ugly face. My point is that different people have different experiences. In my previous trips I have never had a problem however I guess you feel safe until something happens to you. The only known cure for fear is faith and confidence, therefore we have to move forward in order to conquer our fear. A little fear is positive because it keeps you alert too much fear is negative because it keeps you paralyzed and can cause you to miss some of the best experiences of life. Be careful about snatch and grabs there are reports of people with cameras being snatched out their hands after which the thief will flee on foot or by moto.

There are reports of girls using scopolamine to drug their targets. Scopolamine can render a victim unconscious for 24 hours or more. In large doses, it can cause respiratory failure and death. It is most often administered in liquid or powder form in foods and beverages. The majority of these incidents occur in night clubs and bars, and usually men, perceived to be wealthy, are targeted by young, attractive women. To avoid becoming a victim of scopolamine, one should never accept food or beverages offered by strangers or new acquaintances or leave food or beverages unattended. If course if you believe you are a victim of scopolamine or other drugs you should seek immediate medical attention.

Poblado Rentals:

Poblado Rentals is a real estate company that rents apartments in different areas of Medellin. Barry Brocs is the US contact and Ruben Martin is the on the ground point of contact and will make himself available as you desire. He also can help you with translation and sightseeing if you desire.

My apartment was in El Poblado next to the Hotel Dann Carlton and a 5 minute walk from Parque Lleras. The location was very convenient and the 3 bedroom apartment had 2 baths a kitchen and a front and back balcony.

Premium Plaza Mall Avenida Poblado.

Premium Plaza Mall is less than 5 minutes from the apartment and is a one stop shop for everything that you need. I used the following:

• Smartphone Plaza-I got a Claro SIM card that I put in my Galaxy which I previously had unlocked.

• Mercado Libre de Divisas- Casa de Cambio 1960COP-1US.

• Jumbo Super-mercado- I do not know if these are the same owners as the Jumbo in the Dominican Republic.

Exchange rate.

I exchanged money several times during my trip and have found some variation in the rates. I got some pesos from my home bank Wells Fargo because I wanted to hit the ground running but their rate was terrible. There are casa de cambios all over the city with close to the same rate. I discovered that there is a change house within walking distance of the apartment in the Dann Carlton Hotel complex on the 3rd floor.

• Wells Fargo 1658COP-1US.

• Medellin Airport cambio 1922COP-1US.

• Casa de cambios-average: 1950COP. 1US.

E-Mongering:

The below listed sites are very useful for getting to know chicas in Colombia.

• Facebook.

• Romance Latina.

• Colombian Cupid.

• Latin American Cupid.

• Tagged.

• Badoo.

I used Romance Latina, Latin American Cupid and Tagged but I didn't put as much effort into it as previous trips. I have 3 numbers I had difficulty with the calling sequence for whatsapp as it is not as simple as calling DR from the US. Shout out to Tgunz who helped me with the numerical sequence for cell calls to Medellin which should be +57 followed by the 10 digit number. It takes lots of time and energy to pull off a civilian chica in Medellin on a short trip with lots of varying factors including age, looks, personality, language barrier. Some enjoy the challenge, as for me I would rather not waist valuable time since I have no plan to return in the near future.

Las Prepagos:

Prepago in Spanish literally means to pre-pay, the word is used to describe things that can be paid for like pre-pay cell cards. The word is also used in Medellin to describe women who exchange money or gifts for sex, in essence the word prepago in Medellin is a less offensive term for prostitute.

It would be wrong to think that Medellin, Colombia is like Sosua, Dominican Republic where 90% of the women are available for pay for play sex, however Medellin has an economy where most women do not make Western wages therefore for some it opens the door to become prepagos. Some of the venues for prepagos are as follows:

• Casa de Citas- New Life.

• Strip Clubs. Fase Dos.

• Night Clubs- Cafe Havana.

• Street-walkers. Mayorista

• Publications-Mileroticos.

• Electronic media to include Facebook and other Colombian websites.

It should be noted that many prepagos are not professionals in the sense that the sell sex for a living many are University students a low wage earners who simply sell sex occasionally to supplement their income.

Body Harmony:

Beauty is ubiquitous in Medellin. It is reported that Colombia has the highest rate of plastic surgery in the world. Plastic surgery abounds in Medellin silicon paradise like weave abounds in the Dominican Republic, the problem I have with both is when they look artificial and do not add to the woman's natural symmetry. Too often there is no harmony between the fake breast and but and the woman looks like a doll android or stepford wife instead of a woman.

Parque Lleras:

Parque Lleras is the central park area of El Poblado. There is a park with benches and greenery that is surrounded by night clubs and restaurants. As you walk around Parque Lleras you get a cosmopolitan middle-class feel as opposed to the gritty urban feel of Mayorista. Parque Lleras is so significant to the Medellin scene that it has its own Facebook page with over 30, 000 likes. It is one of the most popular night spots in Medellin. This is a diverse place in that sometimes you can find the wealthy of Medellin and other times you can find middle class college students along with a few ladies of the night. There is a heavy police presence and over all it is one of the safest areas of the city.

There were a few 7'sand 8's however it was difficult to discern which chicas were working and which were civilians. I was told one of the primary venues for freelancers was Cafe Havanna which is an open air bar with a DJ and small dance floor. You can expect prices to range from 150, 000COP. 250, 000COP and after looking around I could see why.

Mayorista:

Mayorista is one of the primary fresh food markets in Medellin for fruits and vegetables. During the day it is a commercial area but at night it changes to one of the major low end PFP strolls in Medellin. There are a string of short time hotels and street walkers that can be had for 30, 000COP. The talent level fluctuated in quantity and quality averaging between 4-7.

At night Mayorista does not represent the best of Medellin in fact it is reported to be dangerous. I was told locals use the phrase "Todo o nada" in reference to Mayoritsa which means either everything happens or nothing happens. When they fight someone gets killed when they don't fight everybody has a good time. For this reason early in the night there is a heavy police presence but later into the night you are on your own.

El Centro Casa de Citas.

El Centro is urban Medellin and one of the most dangerous parts of town especially at night. The one advantage to El Centro is the plethora of casa de citas. The casa are constantly changing their names and locations and can often be noticed by men standing in front passing out fliers. Most of the casa de citas are non-descript residences with a waiting rooms for clients and rooms in the back for sessions. Some serve drinks and some do not. These casas put in the mind of the "poor man's casas" that I visited in Cali & Cartagena, they are called the "poor man's casas" because an hour of sex averages less than 75, 000COP which is approximately $40. 00. All of the casas had line ups of 6 or more with talent ranging from 5-8. I was astounded at some of the beauty I saw in these casas for such an in-expensive price.

Below I have listed a few of the El Centro casa de citas:

• Paisa Relax Calle Balo Carrea 60.

37, 000COP 1/2 hour.

73, 000COP 1 hour.

• Afrodita Calle Balo Carrea 45.

37, 000COP 1/2 hour.

73, 000COP 1 hour.

• Dulce Compania Calle Balo Carrea 57.

37, 000COP 1/2 hour.

73, 000COP 1 hour.

• New Life Calle 56 #43-39.

The menu was more extensive than the other casas with gradations of times with 70, 000COP for an hour.

El Centro Strip Clubs.

El Centro is one of the most dangerous parts of Medellin at night so it is not for the faint of heart. There are taxis in front of each club therefore it is recommended to use the taxis and not wonder around the area at night. Both Maricaibo and Barro Executiva are two strip clubs next door to one another I believe the name of the street is Calle Maricaibo but I am not certain.

• Maricaibo.

No cover charge.

No drink minimum but apparently the girls get commissions off the drinks because in both clubs the girls were pushing drinks.

Salida 50, 000COP.

Chica 100, 000COP.

There are rooms in house but I neglected to get the fees, for the sake of argument I will guess they are the same as Barro Excecutiva.

Chicas: Maybe 6 present averaging 5-7.

• Barro Executiva.

No cover charge.

No drink minimum but apparently the girls get commissions off the drinks because in both clubs the girls were pushing drinks.

Room: 20, 000COP in house.

Chica: 80, 000COP in house *The chica I sessioned with quoted me 200, 000COP for 2 hours in my apartment but I stayed in house with her. The sex was terrible and I am glad I did not take her out.

Chicas: Maybe 12 present averaging 6-8. The chica selection and caliber was much better at Barro Executiva. I saw more than one I would like to sample.

*It should be noted there was no consistency amongst the chicas about the fees in both locations which were all over the place. It may be advisable to go to the register at the bar and ask the hefe then negotiate with the chicas so you don't get overcharged.

High end Strip Clubs:

The strip clubs in Medellin are different from the strip clubs in the US because in Medellin they are fronts for brothels. The same is true for many US strip clubs with the exception that PFP is legal in Colombia. Luna Lunera, Fase Dos and La Isla are some of the more notable strip clubs in Medellin. I only visited Fase Dos & La Isla and IMHO they are absolute rip offs. First you pay a 10, 000COP cover charge then there is a drink minimum. I think the drink minimum is a rip off because many clubs include a drink with the cover so it's like you get hit in the head twice. In my case I felt slighted because I do not drink alcohol so water cost the same as a mixed drink. I was told on busy nights in order to sit close to the stage you have to buy a bottle at an inflated price. In addition after the girls dance the girls walk around the club and collect tips.

Below are my notes on the strip clubs I visited.

• Fase Dos.

10, 000COP- cover charge.

20, 000COP- drink minimum.

Session: 1 hour in house 185, 000COP.

Girls- The talent level was all 8's and some 9's. You were expected to give a minimum of 2000COP tip after the girls were complete dancing.

Music- Hip Hop.

• La Isla (Girls Club)

10, 000COP- cover charge.

25, 000COP- drink minimum.

Session: 1 hour in house 185, 000COP.

Girls- The talent level was all 8's and some 9's. You were expected to give a minimum of 2000COP tip after the girls were complete dancing.

Music- Hip Hop.

*The ambiance in La Isla was much nicer than Fase Dos because it appeared to be a more modern club. The talent level was about equal in both clubs with La Isla having a slight edge over Fase Dos.

Liquid Lounge.

The Liquid Lounge at the time of this report was a freelance take out bar with no cover a small stage and dance floor. There is a mamasan that supervises the girls. There were about 6 girls on my first visit and about 10 on my second visit. First visit they were 7's second visit they were 7-8's. There is a dance floor and a bar in back and seating for about 40 people.

Mamasan Liquid Lounge.

If you see someone you like you buy a drink chat her up and negotiate the deal. The girl checks in with the mamasan and she gives you a brief interview where are you staying etc etc. You give the money to the mamasan and I watch the mamasan then give the money to the girl. Apparently some of the girls have been ripped off recently.

On my second trip I picked the same girl and gave the mamasan 150, 000COP just like the first time but now she is asking for 200, 000COP. WTF? Now we start going back and forth on what happened in 2 days that the price is different and she goes on and on in Spanish. I find the manager and then all of a sudden everything is kool. Yeah right. Another DAMN Paisa trying to rip a gringo off!

The New Liquid Lounge.

The owner advised after May 16th there will be rooms and it will be a strip club where you will pay a cover for entrance. If you pick a girl inside you pay for the room if you want her to leave you pay a salida and negotiate the price with the chica.

Medellin Taxis.

Medellin is flush with taxis 24 hours a day. The taxis should be yellow and have a meter that starts somewhere around 2600COP. If the meter is not running it would be a good idea to bring the situation to the drivers attention. If for some reason there is a problem with the meter you have a choice negotiate the fare ahead of time or find another taxi.

Problems with Taxis.

It may be difficult to find available taxis at different times for example when it's raining and during rush hour or any time where there is high traffic volume. It is also difficult to find taxis on streets not commonly traveled therefore you should go to major streets where there is a lot of traffic.

For the most part Medellin taxistas are polite and very professional, however I had one taxista at Mayorista that drove me around in circles to different locations I had the address for and he claimed to know where they were. When he finally took me to my apartment he wanted 100, 000COP, after arguing with him for 5 minutes I gave up and paid him. I could have taken a photo and got the cab number however I was so infuriated I wasn't thinking straight.

Suggestions for Taxis.

I had a driver (tour guide) from previous Medellin trips however he was not always available. You can get the card of a reliable taxista and call him whenever you need a ride, you may have to wait an extra 10-15 minutes but the dividends are likely to pay off for both you and the taxista. You have reliable transportation and he has a loyal client. In addition taxistas are a wealth of knowledge about the city therefore you are not just paying for a ride you are also paying for their insight and experience.

Observations:

• This was an intel & recon trip as much as a mongering trip because I am still open to where I would like to retire. I found Medellin almost as expensive as where I live which makes it an unattractive option for me.

• I have been to Medellin, Cartagena and Cali several times and I would say that Medellin gives you a cosmopolitan feel, Cartagena gives you a touristy feel and Cali gives you a rustic authentic Latin American feel. Each city is like a woman with a different personality and they need to be deal with accordingly. IMHO the Cartagena colonial city is one of the most beautiful cities in the Western Hemisphere and should be on every mongers "bucket list." The biggest turn off with Cartagena will be inflated prices the 9 that you could get in Cali at La Picina will cost you 40, 000COP but in Cartagena La Dolce Vida will cost you 350, 000COP. The gringo tax in full effect.

• I spent time talking with locals and the impression I got was that the PFP scene in Medellin has been corrupted by big money. Medellin is becoming a premier PFP destination and with that the Paisas are becoming more hard core and really about the paper. My mongering MO is the interview pseudo date approach where I like to spend time with a chica before I pull the trigger. I found many Paisas wanted to skip that stage and get to business.

• In order to understand the PFP scene in Medellin one has to understand that there is plenty of money in the city. Medellin is a major center for commerce, the drug trade and now that tourism is increasing there are many who are paying premium prices for Paisas which is making it a more expensive PFP market.

• The open secret in Medellin is how PFP has been woven intricately into the culture. I am not speaking of full time sex workers but women who you would otherwise think were just students or having normal jobs when approached some are available for PFP this is especially noticeable on Facebook which is one of the primary venues some chicas use to get clients.

• By European standards no doubt Paisas as a group are more attractive than Dominicanas however physical attractiveness and sexual performance are not mutually exclusive, in fact my experience was the Paisas were more business than the Dominicanas which for me made the sex less enjoyable and Paisas as a group less attractive.

• "No de papaya" is a local phrase which in essence means "don't be stupid!" When you wear gold chains, walk around with your cell phone out or do any other activity that would cause you to stand out and be a mark you are "papaya" a low hanging fruit. I recommend you be careful but not fearful alert but not paranoid. There are parts of Medellin that are very sketchy therefore if you cannot draw it is recommended that you keep the sketch pad closed.

• I can go on and on because I learned much but I will stop, the best advice is to do your research and visit and judge for yourself.

Conclusion:

Most mongers have a favorite destination that is based on a myriad of different factors to include personal preferences. Medellin is a beautiful city especially at night and many of the Paisas I saw were nothing less than stunning, however for me Colombia is like the other woman. As many issues as I have with my main woman the Dominican Republic I still remain connected to her, during my entire trip I longed to be back home in the Dominican Republic and I cannot wait until my return in June.

Nice synopsis Camaro

Camaro,

As a monger traveling to Medellin for the first time next year, I appreciate your written synopsis. Your opinion about paisa service greatly differs from numerous posts.

Recently returned from the DR. Women are spectacularly beautiful with nice natural curves. However imo the service especially in Sosua was horrible. SD was actually better in terms of service. The DR women in Haiti are horrible in service as well with very few good looking ones.

Keep posting.

Could someone move this report into The Reports of Distinction area as it deserves to be there. I tried but somehow could not.

Excellent report, Camaro. For someone who has been to Medellin only a few times I have to take my hat off to you. Lots of good detail in regards to facts as well as your opinions.

The majority of what is in your write up is very accurate and written with good detail but I want to comment on a few things.

Actually, there is no money in Medellin. Many Paisas travel to other cities to make money due to this. Many see the beautiful buildings in El Poblado and think that there is money in Medellin that affects the locals which is not true. This may affect a small percentage of girls, working upper class circles, but that is about it. Less than 5% of the population lives El Poblado.

IMO El Centro is not very dangerous at night. As long as you stay east of the Metro line and out of the tranny zone El Centro is manageable. The most dangerous areas of Medellin are in the highest hills directly above El Centro to the east and to the west in areas like San Javier and directly above El Centro.

I like your reference to not being able to discern the difference between upper class girls and poor barrio girls in Parque Lleras. Many girls in poor barrios wear their best outfits and most tourists can't see the difference. I also like your mirror reference with regards to how you treat people is what you receive in return.

As you said there are different places for different people and there are no paradises. Every place has it's positives and negatives and how these align can be different for different people.

I, as well as others, appreciate the time you took to put together such a well written report. Good luck with your future journeys.

[QUOTE=Shamester; 1558893]Camaro,

As a monger traveling to Medellin for the first time next year, I appreciate your written synopsis. Your opinion about paisa service greatly differs from numerous posts.

Recently returned from the DR. Women are spectacularly beautiful with nice natural curves. However imo the service especially in Sosua was horrible. SD was actually better in terms of service. The DR women in Haiti are horrible in service as well with very few good looking ones.

Keep posting.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your comments. I too have had problems with Dominicanas and I know there is no such thing as a mongering Utopia as each place has its strengths and weaknesses.

Camaro,

Have you been to Mombasa? If you like the natural curvaceous bodies, you may find your Utopia in Mombasa. I been there once and it was an instant Utopia from the beginning. Only one starfish and NO drama or constantly asking for shit. Very sweet natured.

For me sex was the greates in both Mombasa and Camaguey (Cuba).

I would like my next trip to be the DR for the first time. And that's why I'm interested in your experience! Are you a stricktly P4P monger?

P. S: There is a Latin beauty contest called "Nuestra Bella Latina" and the dominican girl "Nabila" is my kind of women: perfect skin tome, hips, Butt, thighs, cheekbone structure, curves. Etc. There must be plenty of that in the DR. And that's my Utopian woman. LOL.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1559000]I appreciate your comments. I too have had problems with Dominicanas and I know there is no such thing as a mongering Utopia as each place has its strengths and weaknesses.[/QUOTE]

Great job, that had to take some time. Much appreciated.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1559006]Camaro,

Have you been to Mombasa? If you like the natural curvaceous bodies, you may find your Utopia in Mombasa. I been there once and it was an instant Utopia from the beginning. Only one starfish and NO drama or constantly asking for shit. Very sweet natured.

For me sex was the greates in both Mombasa and Camaguey (Cuba).

I would like my next trip to be the DR for the first time. And that's why I'm interested in your experience! Are you a stricktly P4P monger?

P. S: There is a Latin beauty contest called "Nuestra Bella Latina" and the dominican girl "Nabila" is my kind of women: perfect skin tome, hips, Butt, thighs, cheekbone structure, curves. Etc. There must be plenty of that in the DR. And that's my Utopian woman. LOL.[/QUOTE]BrasilSoccero I have never been to Africa, in fact my primary interest would be in West Africa over East Africa as I have a great interest in the African Diaspora. I am Afro-American so while it would be difficult to discount the European model of beauty I witnessed in Medellin I feel a ethnic connection to people of color. Ad for Camaguey Cuba I so desperately want to visit Cuba my struggle is whether to wait for it to open to Americans or to go illegally. I have a professional situation that makes me sober about ging to Cuba at this time but it is definitely on my "bucket list."

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1559006]I would like my next trip to be the DR for the first time. And that's why I'm interested in your experience! Are you a stricktly P4P monger?

P. S: There is a Latin beauty contest called "Nuestra Bella Latina" and the dominican girl "Nabila" is my kind of women: perfect skin tome, hips, Butt, thighs, cheekbone structure, curves. Etc. There must be plenty of that in the DR. And that's my Utopian woman. LOL.[/QUOTE]I have been to most of the Latin American destinations we frequent in this thing of ours so I would say that my preference is the Dominican Republic because of it's geography to where I live my familiarity with the culture, lay of the land and the ethnic connection. In fact one of the Colombianas on tis trip called me "Dominicano." The one thing the Dominican Republic lacks is the strong European presence in terms of features "piel blanca" long hair etc. Since most Dominicanos are a hybrid ethnic group of European, Indegenious and African ancestry the physical appearance is sometimes quite different. However I will say Colombianas can be diverse in appearance also as their are more than a fair share of Afro-Colombianas depended on what part of the country you are in.

1) How are they going to know you went to Cuba?

You're nobody, a small fry, they don't care.

2) They don't or don't let them stamp your passport!

Otherwise there's no risk unless something stupid happen and you needed the Gov to bail you out. At worst you'll have your passport suspended, other than that how would it risk your job unless you work for the Government?

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1558912]Could someone move this report into The Reports of Distinction area as it deserves to be there. I tried but somehow could not.

Excellent report, Camaro. For someone who has been to Medellin only a few times I have to take my hat off to you. Lots of good detail in regards to facts as well as your opinions.

As you said there are different places for different people and there are no paradises. Every place has it's positives and negatives and how these align can be different for different people.

I, as well as others, appreciate the time you took to put together such a well written report. Good luck with your future journeys.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your comments and insight. Experience like yours is what we need in order to make more informed decisions in this thing of ours. Thanks again.

[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney; 1559148]1) How are they going to know you went to Cuba?

You're nobody, a small fry, they don't care.

2) They don't or don't let them stamp your passport!

Otherwise there's no risk unless something stupid happen and you needed the Gov to bail you out. At worst you'll have your passport suspended, other than that how would it risk your job unless you work for the Government?[/QUOTE]I do work for the government. If I travel to Cuba it will either be when the embargo is lifted or when I retire.

[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney; 1559148]1) How are they going to know you went to Cuba?

You're nobody, a small fry, they don't care.

2) They don't or don't let them stamp your passport!

Otherwise there's no risk unless something stupid happen and you needed the Gov to bail you out. At worst you'll have your passport suspended, other than that how would it risk your job unless you work for the Government?[/QUOTE]Except for Cubana Air, airlines have been turning over passenger manifest to the US government which shows passenger's nationality.

The US of Foreign of Asset Control sends out letters to suspected law violaters. There is an option for a hearing but is probably best to pay the fine which from what I understand is negotiable.

Bottom line. Fly Cubana Air from a city like Toronto.

[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney; 1559148]1) How are they going to know you went to Cuba?

You're nobody, a small fry, they don't care.

2) They don't or don't let them stamp your passport!

Otherwise there's no risk unless something stupid happen and you needed the Gov to bail you out. At worst you'll have your passport suspended, other than that how would it risk your job unless you work for the Government?[/QUOTE]I went about 10 years ago. Fly from Tijuana to Havana by MX charter airline. At that time, Cuba did not stamp the passport. Returned the same way and crossed the border back to USA, no hassle as no body knew except they do know what time the flight comes back from Havana and hence cross a bit later. Do not wear a 'I love Cuba' tee-shirt while crossing the border!

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1559524]I went about 10 years ago. Fly from Tijuana to Havana by MX charter airline. At that time, Cuba did not stamp the passport. Returned the same way and crossed the border back to USA, no hassle as no body knew except they do know what time the flight comes back from Havana and hence cross a bit later. Do not wear a 'I love Cuba' tee-shirt while crossing the border![/QUOTE]The one thing that I don't recommend is to lie to an officer of the United States. Unless you have a global entry status, you will be required to disclose each country you visited during the trip outside the United States. It's a felony to make a false statement. Interesting article from the New York Times.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/travel/cuba-doing-it-your-way.html?_r=0[/url]

These are the legal reasons for Americans to travel to Cuba: visiting close relatives, official USA government business, journalistic, educational or religious activities, research, and / or commercial marketing of telecommunications, agricultural, or medical devices or medicine.

Returning from Cuba to Canada the customs in Canada can keep track on what Americans were on the flight just by checking Americans who get off the plane. Many make the mistake of taking a connecting flight back to the States, at which time the Canadian Customs Officer will catch them, take their name down, and report them to the USA authorities (this is the case even with Cubana Air, manifest or no manifest. Canadians do have a right to know who gets off that plane otherwise how would they know who is allowed in their country and who is not)! The close relationship between the United States and Canada makes Canada (and the Bahamas) a bad choice as a jump off point to enter Cuba, no matter what airline one takes. This does not mean that if you leave from these countries that you will get caught. I am sure that the majority do not but your risk increases.

Leave from a Latin country, make the trip to Cuba from a non American, non Canadian, or non Bahamian airline, and upon returning do not immediately get a connecting flight back into the States (don't make it too obvious). While in Cuba do not make obvious mistakes like having your passport stamped or using your credit card.

About 500, 000 Americans travel to Cuba yearly, with 50, 000 doing so illegally. Under the Bush Administration crackdowns increased fourfold (even then there were very few getting caught!). Under Obama there has been a relaxation of the embargo.

Out of the tens of thousands that go every year only a small number are fined. Most of the time it is through carelessness that they are caught. When they are fined one can challenge it by requesting a hearing. Most of the times the traveler will win since hearings are quite rare for the Office of Foreign Assets (they seem to be understaffed.).

If you are going to Cuba illegally expect to lie to USA immigration. It is unrealistic to think otherwise. (in fact, if you are on this board and go to many of these countries you are already most likely lying to immigration. What are you going to do tell immigration the truth: 'no, it is not a business trip. I go to another country to screw babes! ' Expect to be harassed by immigration!)

Returning to Cuba, If you have taken the necessary precautions you will never get caught otherwise use one of the legal reasons (stated above) for entering the country. As for the felony thing, only if one gets caught. Most do not get caught and I have never heard of someone being punished for lying to an immigration officer about going to Cuba. I guess someone out there has gotten caught lying but it is rare. Most people get caught because there is concrete evidence of a trip to the island, not because a person simply admitted to such a trip. If lying is a serious moral concern simply do not go to the country. Personally, I do not go since there are so many other places in the world to travel that is legal.

When dealing with any government employee one needs to use discretion. Tell them as little as possible, do not argue with them, and keep it moving. Outside of real serious threats most immigration officers want a simple day and Americans going to Cuba are the least of their concerns. Terrorists, people carrying weapons, bombs, violence are a little bit higher on the pecking order of concerns than some guy going to Cuba for sex. It is quite apparent that immigration is not too concerned about this since about 50, 000 Americans illegally go there every year! When I read the newspapers I focus more on what is happening in the Ukraine, Afghanistan, and Iraq than I am about people visiting some Caribbean island (I am sure that most people feel this way). Travel to Cuba is simply not that big of an issue to Americans, especially under Obama. When you look at this embargo thing, at the end of the day, it is just a formality, a relic of the cold war. Obama is not too worried about this (except when he has to deal with a guy named Jay Z! [who entered the island legally, by the way. Leave it to the Americans to complain about some American citizen entering a country legally! ]).

[QUOTE=Boriman;1559608]These are the legal reasons for Americans to travel to Cuba: visiting close relatives, official USA government business, journalistic, educational or religious activities, research, and / or commercial marketing of telecommunications, agricultural, or medical devices or medicine.[/QUOTE]Traveling to Cuba is NOT illegal for a U.S. citizen, it is the spending of U.S. dollars in the country of Cuba by a U.S. citizen that is illegal.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1559553]The one thing that I don't recommend is to lie to an officer of the United States. Unless you have a global entry status, you will be required to disclose each country you visited during the trip outside the United States.[/QUOTE]Crossed the Tijuana border crossing hundred of times in the last 15 years. The US immigration only asks about the visit to Tijuana, if they at all. It is a business crossing, not your traditional international crossing. As your passport does not show any visits elsewhere, you are OK. In fact, the Plane from TJ to Havana was full of Americans. US folks have been travelling there for a long time through MX or Canada.

This should not be in Columbia forum.

Why is Columbia in the Colombia forum? Just kidding I'm sure you meant Paradise city.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1559844]This should not be in Columbia forum.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1559844]This should not be in Columbia forum.[/QUOTE]This should not be in the Colombia forum, either.

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1558912]I like your reference to not being able to discern the difference between upper class girls and poor barrio girls in Parque Lleras. Many girls in poor barrios wear their best outfits and most tourists can't see the difference. I also like your mirror reference with regards to how you treat people is what you receive in return.

As you said there are different places for different people and there are no paradises. Every place has it's positives and negatives and how these align can be different for different people.[/QUOTE]I don't like sophisticated, girls, I like simple, fresh and natural beauties and to get some girl firend experiences with some girls.

Do you know some unknown "barrios", places and bars where I can go to get those girls?

I always travel alone and I am an expert traveller, I speak fluent spanish and I don't have any problem with their language.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1560172]I don't like sophisticated, girls, I like simple, fresh and natural beauties and to get some girl firend experiences with some girls.

Do you know some unknown "barrios", places and bars where I can go to get those girls?

I always travel alone and I am an expert traveller, I speak fluent spanish and I don't have any problem with their language.[/QUOTE]Most come to Medellin and never leave Poblado or el Centro and wonder why they only meet hookers and prepagos. Best place to meet regular girls is going to be la 70 (nightlife district between UPB and Estacion Estadio). Avenida 33 is ok as well but doesn't have nearly the bar density or the people.

These girls are going to be out with their friends though so you are actually going to have to try to talk to them rather than just flash a little money. Helps to be able to dance a little.

Men keep your eyes open and your attitude positive, Everyday is a new day, here in the paradise city, I dunno about Cuba.

Hahahah

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1560172]. I like simple, fresh and natural beauties and to get some girl firend experiences with some girls.

Do you know some unknown "barrios", places and bars where I can go to get those girls?

I always travel alone and I am an expert traveller, I speak fluent spanish and I don't have any problem with their language.[/QUOTE]Amen to that!

Try EVERYWHERE where tourists are not expected. Avoid parque lleras! I personally prefer el centro and I love walking and hunting ALL over el centro. Why? Cause I find EVERYTHING I need there: Food, fresh fruit shakes, clothes, groceries and of course countless young pretty things wondering aimlessly and window shopping.

But be very smart! Just because they aren't "pros" doesn't mean they are naive! Sometimes they expect their first gringo to be that 120k cop payout they "heard" about.

As far as barrios, I don't recommend going there unless with local friends from that barrio. I'm brown but when I was up on that mountain partying in santo Domingo with locals, everyone was looking at me because "I didn't belong to the barrio"

There is one bar I will recommend exept I don't recall the name. It's in the centro, and it's where locals go to drink and sing along with the romantic lamenting type of songs. I think it's something like "70s or eighties" in the name. I know it's on a corner and dimly lit. Mostly girls go there after work.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1560172]Do you know some unknown "barrios", places and bars where I can go to get those girls?[/QUOTE]Not that I would post on the internet; they wouldn't be "unknown" anymore.

[QUOTE=El Bacano; 1560306]Men keep your eyes open and your attitude positive, Everyday is a new day, here in the paradise city, I dunno about Cuba.

Hahahah[/QUOTE]This is the attitude to have. If you are a gentleman and confident good things will happen to you in Medellin. Using your brain helps also. Relax and speak slowly.

For you guys with short trips hit the ground hard the first few days and repeat your favorites. For guys with time there is everything from steady repeats to regular girlfriends. Guys with time or are on repeat trips will have some girls to call which they have established something with and this is definitely an advantage. They are also more in touch with the lay of the land and the p4p options.

There are no new unknown barrios in Medellin. Some guys, I hear, are going up to Bello to meet fresher girls. I am constantly amazed at how guys are looking for the newest, untapped environments instead of stepping up their game to get respect from the girls who have a slight inclination towards them in the ordinary areas.

Although Medellin is not a new stomping ground for Gringos I find genuine experiences are to be had anywhere with girls. This is especially true if you get outside the upper class neighborhoods. My advice is to stick to the p4p until you get your Spanish up to a workable level. Too many guys are trying too hard and not making good connections with the culture.

I would encourage you guys to visit your favorite girls in their barrios. You don't need to go dancing at night but a simple visit to their house or a nearby restaurant would be enough. How do you expect to get respect from these girls if you can't relate to them and are constantly throwing money at them for everything that you want. Paisa working girls and regular girls alike will only hang with you for as long as you keep them entertained. Also guys get the word hour out of your vocabulary. If you put short restrictions on things these girls will never relax.

Also, Foxeshunter, there are no simple girls in Medellin. The best you can hope for is humble and sweet, and even then, they need a man who can assert themselves to gain their respect.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1560377]Amen to that!

Try EVERYWHERE where tourists are not expected. Avoid parque lleras! I personally prefer el centro and I love walking and hunting ALL over el centro. Why? Cause I find EVERYTHING I need there: Food, fresh fruit shakes, clothes, groceries and of course countless young pretty things wondering aimlessly and window shopping.

But be very smart! Just because they aren't "pros" doesn't mean they are naive! Sometimes they expect their first gringo to be that 120k cop payout they "heard" about.

As far as barrios, I don't recommend going there unless with local friends from that barrio. I'm brown but when I was up on that mountain partying in santo Domingo with locals, everyone was looking at me because "I didn't belong to the barrio"

There is one bar I will recommend exept I don't recall the name. It's in the centro, and it's where locals go to drink and sing along with the romantic lamenting type of songs. I think it's something like "70s or eighties" in the name. I know it's on a corner and dimly lit. Mostly girls go there after work.[/QUOTE]Clap clap clap clap. Let me get you a cold one Brasilsoccer0!

Everywhere. Not just in Colombia but in the States too! Not to sound like a self help semenar but you have to "Say YES!" or be open to yes.

I'm not the best looking guy. In fact just the opposite. But I work with what my mom and dad gave me. Be your best you can be and just go for it!

Leave that fear of rejection at home. Or leave it out of you life and just smile (not like a creepy joker smile but a nice normal happy guy smile) and just say hello!

My last trip I met this amazing regular girl on the metro. At a stop I pretended to lose my balance and every so slightly brushed up against her. Just enough to say I'm sorry and for her to get off her phone for a second (I swear cell phones are a curse and a blessing). I said excuse them in Spanish and she said something like Tranquilo" and I then said something like cool cell phone and off we went. NOTE: In the states if a girl has a cracked phone or older model I'd bust her chops about it. Do not do that here. My Spanish is pretty good but something got lost in the translation! Save the snarky jokes for your native tongue or if you speak excellent Espanol.

You just have to try! Talk to a local and you'll see what happens. Nothing? Fuck her! Literally a train or bus will come by every two min with a few dozen more.

I also recommend getting out of Lleres. These girls DO not want you. IMO in part because of the low lifes that live in the Juan Valdez. Not all but some of those guys are pure jerks! You want locals and non pros you can't hang with a pure monger crew of gringos you know what I mean?

Also I agree with what Brazil said about being in the barrio and getting a few looks. I was with a novia and a few of her homies in the hood. I was getting looks from theses clowns. Nothing threatening but hard guys looks you know?

I think it might have been the cash I was flashing. Keep in mind what you think is no big deal is a huge deal for the next man. Be mindful of your environment if you are going to get off the beaten path! My two cents. Be nice and if you have to buy a round for the hard guys!

LOL.

Say yes! Be open to yes! If you do it could happen for you!

Go with the flow and the agenda of the Day, Sieze The Day, and some one get the first Beer for Some one, We can all have a better life workin together.

Generally prefer the strip clubs but I went to Fantasia 2 today and think its probably one of the best casas in the city. Went there on a report from the forum today or yesterday and it was definitely a good call. Line-up of about 9 girls, most were nothing special but I'd say at least 3-4 cute and doable. I paid for the half hour (36,000) with Katarine. She's a little older, maybe in her early 30s or maybe it was just the heavy makeup, and fairly skinny. It was a little weird to walk through the girls' waiting area to get to the bedroom. The rooms are not as nice as Energy but average for most of the casas.

The sex was good but not great. Funny that she had no problem doing BBBJ without even asking but was minimal on the kissing, though it was still way more than you'll get at a lot of the other houses. She had a friendly personality and would probably give it everything she's got if you took her out and gave her 100k for a few hours. I gave her an extra 4k and will session with her again if she's there.

I've walked out of Aiffe three of the four times I've been there because of the line-up and have generally been dissatisfied with the casas but Fantasia 2 will likely become a regular stop for me. The house is pretty close to Cr 49, the 3-4 block shopping boardwalk, so it's nice to stroll and relax afterwards.

Just make sure you write us a nice report when you come back (photos included)

I just booked another 9 night trip to Medellin, but this time I will probably NOT be at the Mansion; trying an apartment for the first time. I have quite a few cell numbers of previous contacts, but I would like to also have a way to meet fresh contacts without involving the Mansion or high mileage casa girls.

I have seen many posts here and on other boards, but I really did not pay too much attention to them as at the time I did not want to "work" or "romance". The relationship I seek is a simple one of $ for sex.

I did just open a free [url]www.colombiacupid.com[/url] Account. I put in my profile a simple / honest description of myself: healthy gringo 60yrs looking for young Colombiana to spend time with; always generous and respectful. Within 20 minutes I did get this reply- to me this is exactly what I am looking for: (she is 19yr student looking for a male 55-65yrs- hmmmmmmmm)

I need to pay the UPGRADE fee of $29. 99 / month to be able to read / reply to her emails and receive contact info.

My question is this to the experts: Is this a ripoff site? Is there another site that is more popular with the semipro prepagos? I also know many guys have used facebook extensively. It would be nice to get into a circle of friends who all play the game a little, but I worry that the pros, semi-pro and "good girls" would all get mixed up.

I am also not opposed to good old fashioned escort services. Is there someone here who has had recent good experience with one of these agencies? Thank you!

[url]http://www.colombiancupid.com/en/pro.ile/ID/2270437[/url]

They are only mixed up in your mind, any 19 year old looking to date a 60 year old, is absolutely looking for a cash payout, as far as "high mileage" is concerned, the odometer broke years before you got there!

"She is 19yr student looking for a male 55-65yrs-"

I am all for dating well under my own age but this seems a little extreme. What is a 55-65 year old going to talk about with a 19 year old? No problem with jumping into bed with girls but you can meet them at the casas and clubs pretty quick. On the dating sites, I would look for someone with a little more in common.

To your question, its been years since I had a profile on the dating sites but LatinAmericanCupid worked fairly well. Not sure what is on the site now but there are a few posts that review the activity. If you are spending a few grand on the trip, $30 or so isn't too bad for the chance to make a few contacts beforehand. Make it explicit that you are coming down for a couple of weeks and will want to spend time with someone, that should help draw the type you are looking for (I. E. Not looking for a serious long-term relationship). The second anyone asks you to send money or gifts, block their profile.

Just my 2 cents though. Good luck.

[QUOTE=TroyBoy; 1561798]I just booked another 9 night trip to Medellin, but this time I will probably NOT be at the Mansion; trying an apartment for the first time. I have quite a few cell numbers of previous contacts, but I would like to also have a way to meet fresh contacts without involving the Mansion or high mileage casa girls.

I have seen many posts here and on other boards, but I really did not pay too much attention to them as at the time I did not want to "work" or "romance". The relationship I seek is a simple one of $ for sex.

I did just open a free.

[url]www.colombiacupid.com[/url]

Account. I put in my profile a simple / honest description of myself: healthy gringo 60yrs looking for young Colombiana to spend time with; always generous and respectful. Within 20 minutes I did get this reply- to me this is exactly what I am looking for: (she is 19yr student looking for a male 55-65yrs- hmmmmmmmm)

I need to pay the UPGRADE fee of $29. 99 / month to be able to read / reply to her emails and receive contact info.

My question is this to the experts: Is this a ripoff site? Is there another site that is more popular with the semipro prepagos? I also know many guys have used facebook extensively. It would be nice to get into a circle of friends who all play the game a little, but I worry that the pros, semi-pro and "good girls" would all get mixed up.

I am also not opposed to good old fashioned escort services. Is there someone here who has had recent good experience with one of these agencies? Thank you!

[url]http://www.colombiancupid.com/en/pro.ile/ID/2270437[/url][/QUOTE]Colombiancupid can be anything. Some girls looking for a genuine relationship all the way to obvious prepagos. One way I identify the good girls looking for a real relationship is they will say in their profile "if you're over 35 years old DO NOT SEND ME MESSAGES!". Plus if their photos are a little too sexy and cheap, most likely they're prepagos. If she's in her 20's and she's willing to date 60 year old men. 99% chance she's a prepago.

With that being said I really don't think it's cool to post profiles and photos here (a pro$titution site) that you found on a dating site. If these girls wanted to explicitly advertise themselves as puta$ then they would sign up on an escort site, not a dating site. Try to have a little respect for their discretion.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1561946]as far as "high mileage" is concerned, the odometer broke years before you got there![/QUOTE]Nice one, LOL!

[QUOTE=Jinxx;1562011]With that being said I really don't think it's cool to post profiles and photos here (a pro$titution site) that you found on a dating site. If these girls wanted to explicitly advertise themselves as puta$ then they would sign up on an escort site, not a dating site. Try to have a little respect for their discretion.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct. I have sent a request to the administrator to delete this specific chica's photo and profile. (hopefully this will be done in short order) My intent was to demonstrate that this particular site (colombiancupid. Com) does have the potential to be a source for hooking up with a quality low mileage prepago. My question to the group was: "What cyber sites have others had success with in finding this TYPE of profile / contact". In retrospect I realize that this truly was a classless disregard for her privacy. Thank you for being direct in pointing that out to me.

Troyboy, let's think about this 'low miles" concept. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXP5yu0552E[/url]

Hey fella,.

Just my 2 pesos here. Some info from one of the girls in CTG. This one girl mentioned she was on this (Colom Cupid) site. I also mentioned that I was too. We got to talking sharing profiles and stuff. She specifically said she was on there looking for business. She says its a great source for business and that a lot of chicas do the same. Now my question to her was why look for business on a dating site. She said a lot of the guys are looking for both. Serious relationship / novias and fun. They present themselves as both also. Novia material / fun chicas. Depending on the angle you take with the they play that part. I looked at the girls profile and it did not look at all like a working chica profile. She said yes she does work in CTG and provide guys with a good time. But she is also open to a relationship with a guy who is a tourist and is well established. Any thoughts?

Its so cute, when people enter the new Panama Metro, the old people say "good morning"!

A. G.

[QUOTE=NCal2014; 1562375]Hey fella.

Just my 2 pesos here. Some info from one of the girls in CTG. This one girl mentioned she was on this (Colom Cupid) site. I also mentioned that I was too. We got to talking sharing profiles and stuff. She specifically said she was on there looking for business. She says its a great source for business and that a lot of chicas do the same. Now my question to her was why look for business on a dating site. She said a lot of the guys are looking for both. Serious relationship / novias and fun. They present themselves as both also. Novia material / fun chicas. Depending on the angle you take with the they play that part. I looked at the girls profile and it did not look at all like a working chica profile. She said yes she does work in CTG and provide guys with a good time. But she is also open to a relationship with a guy who is a tourist and is well established. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]A lot of hookers have infiltrated the "dating" sites. It is not just Colombia. They have gone high tech now all over the world. Girls are very into social media. Facebook, Tagged, Badoo, etc to look for business.

[QUOTE=NCal2014; 1562375]Hey fella.

She said yes she does work in CTG and provide guys with a good time. But she is also open to a relationship with a guy who is a tourist and is well established. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]Old trick new technology. This has been done since the beginning of time. LOL. Any girl that works then is willing to be a good girl after is almost impossible. Leopards do not change their strips. Any working girl who says she is committed to a guy after is full of it. You have to understand, she is in a situation where she will do what she must to provide the needs for herself / family. Like my buddy in says to me back in LA,"As long as I have money, she will always be faithful and love me."

Old trick new technology. This has been done since the beginning of time. LOL. Any girl that works then is willing to be a good girl after is almost impossible. Leopards do not change their strips. Any working girl who says she is committed to a guy after is full of it. You have to understand, she is in a situation where she will do what she must to provide the needs for herself / family. Like my buddy in says to me back in LA,"As long as I have money, she will always be faithful and love me."

Very true! I'm not a veteran at pfp so I can only go by what I experience. I have just about given up though on finding a wife in Colombia. Initially thats how I learned about Colombia and how to travel there. I looked into loveme. Com and other sites also. Soon enough I learned that just about every girl I met was a working girl. So guess I will just keep at this hubby until I find a good girl. I'd sure love to find me a good Colombian wife though. LOL

all women are working girls. keep in mind that i consider female anger to be the weather vane of truth and wisdom. when a woman finally has a heart attack after reading something i've written, i'm going to start calling myself buddha. king buddha. that's why no women are allowed to read this. women know themselves almost as well as i know them. they know they're prone to emotion and anger, and they know they're all working girls. that's why they get so goddamn upset when i say it. to a woman, calling attention to her innate prostitution is more true than anything else i could possibly say. but that's only because women understand math and science about as far as a dog can shit. women crave money because they don't have things like purple hearts, fist fights, and prom queens. they have nothing to validate their self-worth except how much a man will pay for access to their vagina. that's why they spend money like it's poison. the albatross of a 100 dollar bill is nothing but shame to a woman. it is a constant reminder of her nature. all women are working girls. and that's human nature. men exchange our body parts for money as well, except our 'vagina' is our man-brain, and when we're done letting the world use it, cancer is cured, slavery is abolished, or something awesome like the `77 chevelle is invented. also, once a man lets someone inside his valuable body part, they don't start thinking of their ex-girlfriend or how to get inside for less money next time. you can't cure small pox with a vagina. all girlfriends are working girls. that's why there's a valentine's day. all wives are working girls. that's why car leases expire in 16 months instead of 12. it takes 16 months for suv roofies to wear off. all business women are working girls. if i get a free steak at morton's because i told them i was tom selleck — which would be easy to do because i also have a manmazing mustache, i would go to jail for fraud. every woman who's ever gotten a promotion in any business, got there because of fraud. her miniskirt wrote a check for sex that the vagina bank had no intention of cashing. or maybe she did cash it. my point is, all women are working girls, and the last thing men want is a working girl who doesn't know how to do her job. when men sell body parts, we're called engineers or nfl linebackers. when women do it, they're called prostitutes. it's as simple as an anniversary bouquet or a 'free lunch'. there's no such thing as a 'free lunch', there's only prostitution you buy in installments. women are like pre-paid cell phones you can use with your dick. i have no problem with working girls. in fact, i love them. prostitution and monkey-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is why we're all here today — but men are why vaccines and plasma tvs are here. if it were possible to respect a woman, i might even respect one who knew what she was and embraced it, instead of drowning her shame in designer handbags and abusive boyfriends. i'm not going to stop using a perfectly accurate term just because it's upsetting to women. holding your tongue because it upsets women is a slippery slope that ends in your penis getting cut off. besides, the only real reason women hate being called 'working girls' is the same reason they hate beer: they're fucking stupid. indiana jones was a box-office smash because all men are clever, resilient, and bad-ass mavericks. jaws was a success because all men could fuck up a shark with their bear hands. pretty woman was a success because all women are working girls. imagine a movie that featured you kicking hitler's balls so hard, you traveled back in time and fucked heidi klum the day before her 18th birthday. that's basically the film pretty woman: every woman's ultimate fantasy. see more at: [url]http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/women-are-*****s/#sthash.hymqpiax.dpuf[/url]

[QUOTE=NCal2014; 1563091]Old trick new technology. This has been done since the beginning of time. LOL. Any girl that works then is willing to be a good girl after is almost impossible. Leopards do not change their strips. Any working girl who says she is committed to a guy after is full of it. You have to understand, she is in a situation where she will do what she must to provide the needs for herself / family. Like my buddy in says to me back in LA,"As long as I have money, she will always be faithful and love me."

Very true! I'm not a veteran at pfp so I can only go by what I experience. I have just about given up though on finding a wife in Colombia. Initially thats how I learned about Colombia and how to travel there. I looked into loveme. Com and other sites also. Soon enough I learned that just about every girl I met was a working girl. So guess I will just keep at this hubby until I find a good girl. I'd sure love to find me a good Colombian wife though. LOL[/QUOTE]Very true, and it's amazing how quickly they get "turned". I see quite a few new girls coming into Liquid not quite ready for P4P, but just wanting to check out the scene. Within a few days, most will never be the same. I think it might even be true if they don't participate. Just being around that kind of mentality changes something in their beautiful little heads.

[QUOTE=Av8r;1563547]Very true, and it's amazing how quickly they get "turned". I see quite a few new girls coming into Liquid not quite ready for P4P, but just wanting to check out the scene. Within a few days, most will never be the same. I think it might even be true if they don't participate. Just being around that kind of mentality changes something in their beautiful little heads.[/QUOTE]Old is a relative term and so yeah. But an "old" expression where I come from it goes something like: "You don't find your queen in the strip club"

I should have quoted the guy you quoted. But what evers.

Yeah man, There are good girls out there in Colombia. Nice and normal girls who are not p4p they are hard to find because anything of quality is in high demand. Not hard to believe that a hot girl, a good girl with family values, smart, and cool. She's going to find a good guy in ANY enviroment and have her pic of suitors. That just how it is.

We that go down to visit just came too late. Those girl have been wifed up. Plus they don't need to go slumming with the likes of us! LOL!

The good girls just don't have pages on gringo dating sites or hang out with a bunch of dudes 30+ years older than they are who don't speak spanish. They don't need to so they don't. So looking for a good normal girl is harder when we look in the wrong places.

They out there. But we need to get out of Parque LLeres and get involved and you'll find them.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1563571]Old is a relative term and so yeah. But an "old" expression where I come from it goes something like: "You don't find your queen in the strip club"

I should have quoted the guy you quoted. But what evers.

Yeah man, There are good girls out there in Colombia. Nice and normal girls who are not p4p they are hard to find because anything of quality is in high demand. Not hard to believe that a hot girl, a good girl with family values, smart, and cool. She's going to find a good guy in ANY enviroment and have her pic of suitors. That just how it is.

We that go down to visit just came too late. Those girl have been wifed up. Plus they don't need to go slumming with the likes of us! LOL!

The good girls just don't have pages on gringo dating sites or hang out with a bunch of dudes 30+ years older than they are who don't speak spanish. They don't need to so they don't. So looking for a good normal girl is harder when we look in the wrong places.

They out there. But we need to get out of Parque LLeres and get involved and you'll find them.[/QUOTE]You guys talking about good girls. All of us here on this board will pass many a good girl on the street without glancing at her. Why? Because she's not good looking or dressed well. So, lets get it straight, we are talking about beautiful good girls (8's. 9's and 10's). These types of girls are approached daily by many guys and indeed fancy themselves. They are looking for either / both of two types of men. Firstly, the good looking, suave, debonair man who has game and / or secondly, the man with a lot of money. I'm guessing that none of us fall into the first category or we would not be pursuing this hobby. Therefore, we will attract girls who are interested in men who are in the second category whether we have a lot of money or not.

My experience has shown that the only difference between pursuing a pro or non-pro is that going after the latter involves more time and money. I have no qualms with following the footsteps of Richard Gere in 'Pretty Woman'. Four years ago I sessioned with the most beautiful provider I have ever been with, probably the most beautiful woman I have ever made love to. She was 19, obviously new to the business and a 9/10. This was at New Life. I went back the following day but she was gone. Up to today I kick myself for not getting her contact info. I would have no problem getting serious with a woman like that. We would have an honest relationship being fully aware of each others nature.

[QUOTE=Turgid; 1564006]They are looking for either / both of two types of men. Firstly, the good looking, suave, debonair man who has game and / or secondly, the man with a lot of money. I'm guessing that none of us fall into the first category or we would not be pursuing this hobby. Therefore, we will attract girls who are interested in men who are in the second category whether we have a lot of money or not.[/QUOTE]I'm like the asian brad pitt! Does that put me in catogory 1 and 2? HAHAHAHA. Okay, George Clooney. Do I hear crickets. Exit Stage left.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;1564061]I'm like the asian brad pitt! Does that put me in catogory 1 and 2? HAHAHAHA. Okay, George Clooney. Do I hear crickets. Exit Stage left.[/QUOTE]Actually I'm wrong here. Many good looking suave and debonair men with game have visited prostitutes including our favourite comedian who actually played the part of a monger in his sitcom, also our favourite golfer, and many others including yours truly &9786;

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1559000]I appreciate your comments. I too have had problems with Dominicanas and I know there is no such thing as a mongering Utopia as each place has its strengths and weaknesses.[/QUOTE]Most mongers have a favorite destination that is based on a myriad of different factors to include personal preferences. Medellin is a beautiful city especially at night and many of the Paisas I saw were nothing less than stunning, however for me Colombia is like the other woman. As many issues as I have with my main woman the Dominican Republic I still remain connected to her, during my entire trip I longed to be back home in the Dominican Republic and I cannot wait until my return in June.

Wow I have read many of your reports and found the info and prospective agreeable. It sounds like Colombia has more of an Eurocentric standard of beauty. Your longing for the DR during your entire trip killed my Colombia bucket list high lights. I may see you in June. DR bound.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1564858]Wow I have read many of your reports and found the info and prospective agreeable. It sounds like Colombia has more of an Eurocentric standard of beauty. Your longing for the DR during your entire trip killed my Colombia bucket list high lights. I may see you in June. DR bound.[/QUOTE]Thanks for following my reports. My comments about the differences between Colombia and the Dominican Republic are totally subjective and it is possible my experiences were similar to not enjoying the other woman because I still love my wife. LOL. Seriously though Colombia has distinct advantages over the Dominican Republic such as infrastructure, education, military and police forces. In addition there is a significant Afro- Colombian population in Cartagena and Cali but I have not felt the same ethnic connection in my Colombian visits as I have in my visits to the Dominican Republic.

I would encourage all who are interested in Colombia to not just spend time in Medellin because Medeliin is no more Colombia than Santo Domingo is the Dominican Republic. If you are so inclined try Cartagena, Cali and Medellin and decide for yourself.

I will be in Sosua-Nagua Dominican Republic June10-19 and I will report on my findings when I return.

Quick trip report.

Had a week long stay in Medellin, just back a few days ago.

Stayed at the Castillo, or Plaza 2 I think its called now.

Great trip!

Pleasantly surprised by the increase in quality in all venues.

Quality of PFP available in Medellin, or anywhere really, runs in cycles, and I seem to have hit it at an upswing.

Anyway, la Cueva was usually packed with lots of cuties and a couple real hotties.

I don't normally session with "Mansion" girls, however, I hit it off nicely with Paulina, a beautiful, and body perfect Paisa IMO.

We chilled and drank a little at the Cueva for a couple hours, lots of good flirting and bonding, then headed up to the Castillo.

She hung out with me up there as well, seemed like for at least a couple hours if not more.

The love making was good and fun, but not near the best I had in Medellin this trip, however, it was good.

She's very nice and seems educated. I put 150CP next to her purse and not another word was mentioned about $$.

The el Centro casa scene is what really seemed like a jump in quality.

As a matter of fact, the most beautiful girl from this trip was at a casa.

Brand new at the job. 18 years old, gorgeous.

After a couple sessions with her, she really loosened up.

One afternoon, after we finished up, it was nearing 7pm, I had made friends with the guy managing the place, we made an impromptu fiesta.

I bought a couple bottles of booze at the place, got some music going, most of the girls hung out for a few drinks, it was cool.

A few days later, at the same casa, I met a Janet Jackson looking chocolate girl too.

Chatted with her a bit, took her to the room, ended up staying with her for 3 hours for the best sex I've had in a while.

She told me after making out for a while that she was a lesbian, and I told her right back that I was too hahaha.

Because we bonded, and I really took my time with her, gave her the full treatment, she told me she actually felt pleasure with a man, but was afraid to tell her lesbo partner or friends, because the man-haters would be angry hahaha.

On my las visit to the casa, I actually choose the Janet Jackson Chocolate over the beautiful 18 year old, because the sex was just so good and hot with her.

On to the Mayorista.

Though the quality of the girls was nowhere near it's glory days, it was better than in my past few visits.

Still the vast majority of the girls are untouchables IMO, as in Fugly, I did meet and play with a couple real cuties.

Both the girls I hung out with at the Mayo were trigueas (naturally nice brown tan skin) , and we bonded as well, so the loving was great.

I took them both, seperately, to one of the around the corner hotels for play.

Actually the worse part of the trip, as far as girls go, was a "girlfriend" I had met on a previous trip, and kept contact on Facebook.

She turned out to be a 'taker' and just kept trying to mooch off me. She even asked if I would buy her a moto.

Yeah right!

Anyway had a little fun with her and then put her on the "adios amigo" list, hehehe.

Overall, great time in Medellin!

Very happy with upturn in quality.

I'm back in Brazil now, trying to put the portugues back in swing from the spanish :)

Have fun guys!!

[QUOTE=Av8r;1563547]Very true, and it's amazing how quickly they get "turned". I see quite a few new girls coming into Liquid not quite ready for P4P, but just wanting to check out the scene. Within a few days, most will never be the same. I think it might even be true if they don't participate. Just being around that kind of mentality changes something in their beautiful little heads.[/QUOTE]This is true in many countries, because the money can be unreal. In the USA, unless you are really high end, the money from "working at night" only amounts to a pocket money and not worth the risk. But in countries like Colombia, a girl just doing 2-3 sessions a weekend at the right venue can earn the equivalent of a middle class income. If you are lucky to be pretty enough, how could you ever turn that down? In poorer countries, the temptation is even more dramatic. A working girl in the DR with steady weekend business is the equivalent of an upper middle class job. Seriously. Don't be fooled by comparing the cost of living that we see as tourists with what they pay.

I think its unfair to infer or imply a lax moral compass in these women. Its just about economics. Sometimes I think we (myself included) take living in the developed western world for granted.

I was hoping I could get a little help from some of the veteran Mde travelers. I was looking into going to Mde in August. I see that la Feria de las Flores is from the 1st to the 10th. This would be my first time in Mde. Would this be a good time to go. I imagine hotel and chica prices will be through the roof at this time of year. Is that true? Would it be harder to find working chicas since they might all be with family enjoying the festivities? Any help on this topic would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1565491]Quick trip report.

Had a week long stay in Medellin, just back a few days ago.

Stayed at the Castillo, or Plaza 2 I think its called now.

Great trip!

Pleasantly surprised by the increase in quality in all venues.

A few days later, at the same casa, I met a Janet Jackson looking chocolate girl too.

Chatted with her a bit, took her to the room, ended up staying with her for 3 hours for the best sex I've had in a while.[/QUOTE]Nice report.

3 hours in a MP room. I thought that I could get comfortable in an MP. I have extended beyond the hour to a second hour but never beyond.

These sessions are special, unlike being in your own room, because they are completely unexpected. Things had to be extremely comfortable to keep extending the time.

I have had sweaty sessions go beyond the hour as well as slow, connected sessions with lots of general talk. Each experience stands on it's own.

Reading your report reminds me of what a privilege it is to be involved in P4P. The ability to turn these situations on and off. No drama. Not too many lies, if any.

Also, the ability to conceal these situations from loved ones can be invaluable for many.

Ricker, you serve as a mentor to all who read these boards in your attitude and your writing style.

I am glad to hear that you had a great trip. Thanks again for sharing.

Great report. Could share with us the same of the Casa in El Centro?

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1565491]Quick trip report.

Had a week long stay in Medellin, just back a few days ago.

Stayed at the Castillo, or Plaza 2 I think its called now.

Great trip!

Pleasantly surprised by the increase in quality in all venues.

Quality of PFP available in Medellin, or anywhere really, runs in cycles, and I seem to have hit it at an upswing.

Anyway, la Cueva was usually packed with lots of cuties and a couple real hotties...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1565588]This is true in many countries, because the money can be unreal. In the USA, unless you are really high end, the money from "working at night" only amounts to a pocket money and not worth the risk. But in countries like Colombia, a girl just doing 2-3 sessions a weekend at the right venue can earn the equivalent of a middle class income. If you are lucky to be pretty enough, how could you ever turn that down? In poorer countries, the temptation is even more dramatic. A working girl in the DR with steady weekend business is the equivalent of an upper middle class job. Seriously. Don't be fooled by comparing the cost of living that we see as tourists with what they pay.

I think its unfair to infer or imply a lax moral compass in these women. Its just about economics. Sometimes I think we (myself included) take living in the developed western world for granted.[/QUOTE]Well said. Once a girl gets out of the Centro Casas, she can make a shitload of money doing this.

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff;1565823]3 hours in a MP room. I thought that I could get comfortable in an MP. I have extended beyond the hour to a second hour but never beyond.[/QUOTE]Yeah I've had hour plus sessions at casas at times too, but this particular girl and I just hit it off, and we got into a groove.

It was really cool.

I had already established a rapport with the dude running the casa, so I had my time limit as 'open'.

When I was with my girl for the several hours there, if we wanted something, drinks, etc, I just called the manager from my cel and ordered and he delivered to the room.

Just as fun too was the little party we had at the casa with the girls after it closed for business, and then we invited a couple of them out for dinner at a local place.

I know some guys don't care really, but when you get down to people to people level with these girls, they can be quite sweet.

Really fun time.

[QUOTE=Georgest;1566044]Great report. Could share with us the same of the Casa in El Centro?[/QUOTE]One of the little casas around New Life.

The thing about the casas are, the turnover is high.

If one reports that all the hot chicas are in one casa, that may not hold true the following week.

As a matter of fact, the little beautiful one I met, said she was already leaving with her friend for another casa that got more business.

Anyone been over to C R T lately? Apparently a fb Prepago was gunned down over the weekend, and a gringo was almost drugged by a fb chica and shaken down by the cops once they arrived.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1566321]Anyone been over to C R T lately? Apparently a fb Prepago was gunned down over the weekend, and a gringo was almost drugged by a fb chica and shaken down by the cops once they arrived.[/QUOTE]This sort of drama happens almost daily.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1566321]Anyone been over to C R T lately? Apparently a fb Prepago was gunned down over the weekend, and a gringo was almost drugged by a fb chica and shaken down by the cops once they arrived.[/QUOTE]What's C R T?

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1504106][url]Http://www.colombiajake.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Back to Medellin from a trip to the New Orleans Jazz Festival and Florida to see my sons and ones 18th birthday. Explained why I'm here living my dream, and how one day I hope they get a chance to experience it for themselves. They seem to want to come so trying to get the passports process going. Matts here for the 10th time hanging with his sweetheart of a girlfriend who I introduced to him 2 plus years ago. The four of us including my girlfriend my head off to Santa Fe in the next few days. I have one room open and am happy to tour with anyone who wants one. A new video on my site so click above and take a look and it just doesn't get any better than Medellin!

Thanks,

Jake

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1566329]This sort of drama happens almost daily.[/QUOTE]Drama yes but a FB Girl getting gunned down? Or shot at? Or what? What was her name?

Dude getting drugged? Names? Details? This sort of thing is useful to every monger.

[quote=savepros321;1566321]anyone been over to c r t lately? apparently a fb prepago was gunned down over the weekend, and a gringo was almost drugged by a fb chica and shaken down by the cops once they arrived.[/quote]as tweedle d says neither of these scenarios are uncommon. many colombian women are murdered or raped by colombian men who meet them online. this goes largely unreported. why do you think so many girls bring their friends on first dates? talk to the barrio girls and they will tell you.

on another note a good "tell" as to how much experience a girl has or not is by the way that she gets out of taxi. if she seems comfortable, and not nervous, she has experience. most new girls will exit the taxi slowly while looking around at the new surroundings. normally if she doesn't have much experience she will be shy and somewhat nervous at least for the first few minutes after entering the apartment also.

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff;1566433]On another note a good "tell" as to how much experience a girl has or not is by the way that she gets out of taxi. If she seems comfortable, and not nervous, she has experience. Most new girls will exit the taxi slowly while looking around at the new surroundings. Normally if she doesn't have much experience she will be shy and somewhat nervous at least for the first few minutes after entering the apartment also.[/QUOTE]What does this have to do with knowing whether or not she is going to drug you, LOL?

[QUOTE=MdeJohn;1566383]What's C R T?[/QUOTE]Costa.

Rica.

Ticas.

You cannot write it out completely here on ISG because the system filters it out (competition). But in this case, this is dire intel for the monger community.

Look for the thread started by Bbrocs in the thread entitled "Trip reports and information from around the world!"

The report has the names.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1566427]Drama yes but a FB Girl getting gunned down? Or shot at? Or what? What was her name?

Dude getting drugged? Names? Details? This sort of thing is useful to every monger.[/QUOTE]I also read that report on CRT (Costa Rica Times, another mongering site) and the named prepago was Viviana Soto (FB name, doubt it's her real name) who was said to be gunned down by a jealous wife of a Colombian man she was seeing. I can't confirm anything, but I've seen her in person on my last MDE trip and she's a great gal and we connected pretty well. I was already planning to see her again on my next trip, so we still keep in touch through whatsapp. I decided to send her a message after the news broke out yesterday on CRT and she knows who I am since we've chatted up a few times, but this time I get a message asking who I was and then suddenly her whatsapp is gone along with her profile pic. Sad news considering she leaves a little girl behind. Kinda sucks thinking about that. She was such a sweetheart from my experience. Hope this isn't true, but sad to say it most likely is.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1566439]What does this have to do with knowing whether or not she is going to drug you, LOL?[/QUOTE]Actually, nothing. I just thought of it when I mentioned the girls coming on first dates and then drifted a little.

I wander all over Medellin and nothing happens to me. Every day I wear blue jeans, dark shirts or shirts with color, and tennis shoes. This look blends in to avoid danger, it works great with the girls, it works in almost any scene day or night, and I come across as a gentleman. Why would I wear anything different? I have invited tons of girls to my apartment and have gone out to all of the P4P outlets many times late at night. I have been living in Medellin half of the time for 3 years and have been living in Latin America for 9 years. No problems, ever! I also don't consider it a problem if the police are involved as long as nothing happens.

Some of you might not know this but there are many guys in Medellin who are meeting girls with not even so much as hearing a voice inflection on the phone. They are setting up dates with girls through agencies as well as meeting them through internet websites. For you guys out there who are doing this be careful.

The problems happen to the same types of guys. Guys who don't have enough Spanish to know what is going on around them, guys who don't take basic precautions, guys who are disrespectful, etc.

RiceRocket, it sucks that you knew this girl. Unfortunately, if you come to Medellin regularly you will see and hear of much more of this.

For you guys planning upcoming trips June thru August are good weather months in Medellin.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1566439]What does this have to do with knowing whether or not she is going to drug you, LOL?[/QUOTE]You just never know, [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEgol8UstaY[/url]

[QUOTE=TweedleD; 1566712]You just never know,

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEgol8UstaY[/url][/QUOTE]Hahhah! Thanks for the link and guys getting slipped Mickeys mos def is not cool and very dangerous!

But this video has to be set up, real as "reality television" It's almost too perfect. She even pulls a little vile out of her bra! They have a perfect shot of her doing it, she speak English half decent, he's drinking wine, he has wine, this reaks of stagged to me. Just my two cents.

Also anybody have a trip report?

Or Real, verified, or useful info about the drugging? Or the shooting? Information is key in this game.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1566887]Hahhah! Thanks for the link and guys getting slipped Mickeys mos def is not cool and very dangerous!

[/QUOTE]Was chatting with a colleague the other day, he told me he was in Bogota recently, met a girl at a bar, took her to his room.

He remembers having a couple drinks in the room, then he suddenly felt very tired and was trying to fight off sleep, saying to himself, do not go to sleep, do not go to sleep.

Of course he went right into a drug induced sleep.

He said he woke up hours later with people banging on his door after missing work.

All his valuables of course were gone, and as distressed as he was, he said he actually slept another 12 hours.

Careful out there amigos!

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1566887]Hahhah! Thanks for the link and guys getting slipped Mickeys mos def is not cool and very dangerous!

But this video has to be set up, real as "reality television" It's almost too perfect. She even pulls a little vile out of her bra! They have a perfect shot of her doing it, she speak English half decent, he's drinking wine, he has wine, this reaks of stagged to me. Just my two cents.

Also anybody have a trip report?

Or Real, verified, or useful info about the drugging? Or the shooting? Information is key in this game.[/QUOTE]It is obviously a dramatization, but it does show what can really happen and in fact is happening more and more. I have an acquaintance that was drugged and robbed in this manner about three years ago. Once these girls figure out that they can get away with doing it I think it will happen much more frequently. It has been recommended that one of the best things to do is take a photo of the girls cedula and e-mail it to yourself and make sure you tell the girl what you are doing and why you are doing it. Obviously taking girls that are unknown to you or the mongering community increases your chances exponentially.

I'm in Medellin right now and have about 5 days until I head to Quito.

Would like to go check places out in centro, would prefer not going solo.

Any ideas?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1567190] It has been recommended that one of the best things to do is take a photo of the girls cedula and e-mail it to yourself and make sure you tell the girl what you are doing and why you are doing it. Obviously taking girls that are unknown to you or the mongering community increases your chances exponentially.[/QUOTE]Its a brilliant idea. Never thought of it.

Will do this one.

Gents, you are all cordially invited to my photo exhibit from my trip to Mombasa.

The exhibit is held in Kenya's photo gallery.

May you be inspired.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1565491]Quick trip report.

Had a week long stay in Medellin, just back a few days ago.

Stayed at the Castillo, or Plaza 2 I think its called now.

Great trip!

Pleasantly surprised by the increase in quality in all venues.

Quality of PFP available in Medellin, or anywhere really, runs in cycles, and I seem to have hit it at an upswing.

Anyway, la Cueva was usually packed with lots of cuties and a couple real hotties.

I don't normally session with "Mansion" girls, however, I hit it off nicely with Paulina, a beautiful, and body perfect Paisa IMO.

We chilled and drank a little at the Cueva for a couple hours, lots of good flirting and bonding, then headed up to the Castillo...[/QUOTE]You forgot to mention about almost being robbed by the Taxi driver coming back from Mayorista and you and your bro had to make a quick get away.

It was good meeting you down there maybe we will meet up again on a future trip.

Chriss

Found a club on Facebook, "La Noche de Chicas" in Guayabal Cr 52 No 25 84.

Don't remember seeing it on the list. Anyone ever been there?

We need more details on that to raise awareness and prevent a similar situation.

I've never had a bad experience with any taxi driver in Medellin. But I am always cautious. One time I was near San Antonio metro late at night with a my chica and her sister. I approached a parked taxi and sat in the front and the girls went in the back. I said to the driver: buenas noches, como le va. And he was silent and no mad e not eye contact. Instead asked with a plain voice "a donde va".

I told te girls: vámonos...vámonos¡. And I boleto out. My chica understood what just happened.

You got to call the taxi. I rarely pick a taxi from the street now.

Twice I dropped my cell in a taxi. The one I called brought it back for a reward. The I picked up from the street well, never answered!

I can tell frm all taxi services I've experienced in Colombia and in the world, Medellin and other antioquia small towns have the best and most cordial taxi service. Just don't get complacent.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1567378]You forgot to mention about almost being robbed by the Taxi driver coming back from Mayorista and you and your bro had to make a quick get away.

It was good meeting you down there maybe we will meet up again on a future trip.

Chriss[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WaterTraveller;1567201]I'm in Medellin right now and have about 5 days until I head to Quito.

Would like to go check places out in centro, would prefer not going solo.

Any ideas?[/QUOTE]Maybe you should contact a guide like Colombian Jake if you are apprehensive about rolling solo.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1567190]It has been recommended that one of the best things to do is take a photo of the girls cedula and e-mail it to yourself and make sure you tell the girl what you are doing and why you are doing it. [/QUOTE]Do the chicas normally let you do this?

[QUOTE=Ricker;1565491]
I'm back in Brazil now, trying to put the portugues back in swing from the spanish :)

Have fun guys!![/QUOTE]Why do you chose Brazil over Colombia? I've never been to Brazil.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1567653]Do the chicas normally let you do this?[/QUOTE]I don't exactly ask permission, I ask to see her cedula which I've never been refused and then AFTER I take the photo and e-mail it do I tell her what and why I did what I did. I had one girl get upset and I sent her packing.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1567190]It is obviously a dramatization, but it does show what can really happen and in fact is happening more and more. I have an acquaintance that was drugged and robbed in this manner about three years ago. Once these girls figure out that they can get away with doing it I think it will happen much more frequently. It has been recommended that one of the best things to do is take a photo of the girls cedula and e-mail it to yourself and make sure you tell the girl what you are doing and why you are doing it. Obviously taking girls that are unknown to you or the mongering community increases your chances exponentially.[/QUOTE]When the chica is bending over talking off her shoes, or her boobs falling out when she is taking off her bra, or her tongue is halfway down my throat, or her hand has got hold of junior, I think I would forget about booting up my computer and sending myself an email.

before i take a girl into my private space i relieve her of her id and leave it at the front desk. she can pick it up on the way out. if she complains then i know she has something to hide or doesn't trust me so why go on with the session.

this method has also weeded out an **** girl every now and then. hotels or apartment complexes don't want trouble so i welcome their advice about who to bring in. these places see a lot of bullshit. trust their opinion. if you are staying in a good place this will be an advantage to you.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1567703]When the chica is bending over talking off her shoes, or her boobs falling out when she is taking off her bra, or her tongue is halfway down my throat, or her hand has got hold of junior, I think I would forget about booting up my computer and sending myself an email.[/QUOTE]You're living in the stone ages amigo, everything is done with a smartphone.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1567378]You forgot to mention about almost being robbed by the Taxi driver coming back from Mayorista and you and your bro had to make a quick get away.

It was good meeting you down there maybe we will meet up again on a future trip.

Chriss[/QUOTE]Leaving the Mayo one night at about 1 am, for el Poblado, we jumped in a taxi right there on the strip.

Normally I make it a point to choose one of the older taxistas, but this night the taxis were scarce, so we got this young guy.

Along the way, I started getting 'bad guy' signals, up until we bolted out of the cab.

He didn't take the normal first turn out of the Mayo towards el Poblado, saying he knew a better way.

He was driving rather slowly, and kept looking in his side mirror. I began to think he was waiting / looking for an accomplice.

I told my bro who was in the passenger seat, that I was concerned and to be on alert.

I asked the taxista what he was doing, and he continued to deflect my questions saying, no problem, no problem, esta bien, that he got a little lost but knew the way.

He then pulled off the main road and started for this dark and dead end street.

There's a small possibility that he was really lost, but the signals were just way too bad to trust this guy.

I loudly and angrily barked at him to stop the cab, Ja!! Now!

My bro in the front seat had been drinking a bottle of coke, and had the bottle at the ready if needed.

I of course had been watching this dude's hands as he was driving to make sure he wasn't going for a weapon, which he never did.

The guy immediately stopped the cab after I yelled, and we escaped out of the cab running to the nearby main road where we luckily hailed another taxi right away.

I can't be 100 percent sure that this taxista was up to no good, however, the signals were there and when he started to head for the deserted street, off the main road, we had no choice but to escape.

I was mad at myself for not following my own rules of either picking an old dude taxista to drive us home or grabbing one of the taxis of confianza that we know or going to one of the side hotels and calling a cab from there.

Just another experience to file away and learn from though.

Have fun, enjoy, but do keep the guard up, always.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1567655]Why do you chose Brazil over Colombia? I've never been to Brazil.[/QUOTE]Well in reality I don't choose Brazil over Colombia.

I am lucky enough to spend lots of time in Brazil for work.

Hard to be beat the pure beauty of the Colombiana. Maybe their only real competition for beauty is the Venezolana, IMO of course.

The Brazillian girls though, are fantasic and have their own special qualities.

Generally great booty and great attitude!

I love both countries really. Both very special to me.

Great eye-opening story Ricker. You had a supreme advantage since you have been to Mayorista a ton of times.

Imagine the newbie in the same situation. How would they have known any better if their taxista:

[QUOTE=Ricker;1567871]
[b]He didn't take the normal first turn out of the Mayo towards el Poblado[/b], saying he knew a better way.
[/QUOTE]Newbies would have been in the back seat blathering about how many chicas they banged that night, completely unaware that they are possibly about to be set up to be robbed, or worse.

Interesting article from last summer [URL]http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/colombia/130715/colombian-taxi-millionaire-ride-DEA-killing[/URL].

[QUOTE=Ricker;1567871]that he got a little lost but knew the way.
[/QUOTE]No one is going to believe that. I am glad you posted this experience here for all the newbies to watch out for.

Thank you.

Ricker,

Thanks 4 sharing. I couldn't help but remember the attack on the US embassy employee in Bogota.

ALWAYS LOCK All the doors in a taxi.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1568607]Ricker,

Thanks 4 sharing. I couldn't help but remember the attack on the US embassy employee in Bogota.

ALWAYS LOCK All the doors in a taxi.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about the DEA guy?

Hello gents,

A few months ago I caught up with a friend that had run the Cali Mansion a few years ago. At that time it was similar to the original Medellin Mansion set up but never got off the ground. Anyway, even back then he had 4 girls working web cams in the upper maids quarters which I never had a chance to check out.

Before heading to Cali, I emailed my old friend and he was happy to hear from me and even picked me up at the airport. It also happened that my hotel in Cali was just around the corner of his business in Cali. So after few days later I stopped by the office and boy was I surprised. You see the whole building he was in was a webcam operation. A 24 hour operation that had about 80 girls doing the webcam thing in 3 shifts. The funny thing is that when I told him I was heading to Medellin the next week he said so was he to ink a contract with the Liquid Lounge for extending the webcam business there. I believe AV8 TR mentioned it in a couple of posts regarding Liquid.

So I was wondering if any gents have or would think about meeting up with webcam girls. Is it even possible? The money the girls can make is amazing if they are favorites. And, while I was at the webcam office seeing a few of them in just the non-private action, I can see why. It almost makes me wonder if the girls would then rather do the webcam thing than do the real do with us live mongers.

My thought is webcams is just another way these Colombianas suck you in with their beauty, sensuality, and sexuality.

Even when you private session with these webcam girls and they do the things you want them to do (for more money of course), I can't help thinking of the opening lyrics of George Michael's "Cowboys and Angels". Cause you think it's you that's in control. But no my friends, the webcam girls know it's they who are in control.

When your heart's in someone else's hands.

Monkey see and monkey do.

Their wish is your command.

You're not to blame.

Everyone's the same.

One can only hope that high money yielding webcam Paisas like the one pictured, would also be up for "live action". What a shame if not.

Stay horny my friends.

Cubanut

[QUOTE=Cubanut;1569045]But no my friends, the webcam girls know it's they who are in control.
[/QUOTE]Cubanut.. With all due respect...Webcam girls, hookers, noviamigas, and any Colombianas are not in control, never ever. It's us. That's who. We pay the bills we are in control. If you ever think that's they, move on to the next girl and the next and the next. There's plenty of them in Kittyland and anywhere else in Colombia.
My 2 cents...

They are advertising that they are now a strip club. I arrived 2300 hours Saturday May 17, total persons 20,8 chicas, 12 chicos... I gave the barman a 20 k note for a 8 k beer, he had said he had no change. Now this was not a centro bar giving the barman a 50 k note for a 3 k beer. Early Saturday a chicas facebook page showed a Liquid Lounge advertisement that on may 17 there was a show from 10 pm to 2 am. A beautiful young blonde spinner was doing the other national dance, the bump and grind, with a gringo. She walked past my table on her way to the bar, and stopped to say Hello, and asked my name, she stopped for 15 seconds, then continued on her way to the bar. She picked up her bag, and then reunited with the gringo and proceeded to go upstairs. As no show was happening I left to go to another bar in the area. Smitten by the hot flaquita I returned at 0100 am, and there she was. I invited her for a drink and asked her about the show, as nothing happening on stage. She said the dance was privado, which I took to understand was her and I upstairs. A couple of drinks later, she also asked me to buy one for her friend, who stayed for one drink with us. I asked her about going upstairs, the quote was 100 k for hour for the room, or 70 k for 30 minutes, plus 200 k for her. Because of the loud music and the separate prices I had her write down the figures so there would not be a misunderstanding. I thought 300 k a little high as I am not a 5 day holidayer blowing a wad in 5 days...as I am here for 2 months this trip. I declined as I had spent 3 hours with a semi-pro amiga earlier in the afternoon and as an older guy one a day is my maximum except in special cases of which this spinner would have been one but not for 300 k.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1569223]I invited her for a drink and asked her about the show, as nothing happening on stage. She said the dance was privado, which I took to understand was her and I upstairs. A couple of drinks later, she also asked me to buy one for her friend, who stayed for one drink with us. I asked her about going upstairs, the quote was 100 k for hour for the room, or 70 k for 30 minutes, plus 200 k for her. Because of the loud music and the separate prices I had her write down the figures so there would not be a misunderstanding. I thought 300 k a little high as I am not a 5 day holidayer blowing a wad in 5 days...as I am here for 2 months this trip. I declined as I had spent 3 hours with a semi-pro amiga earlier in the afternoon and as an older guy one a day is my maximum except in special cases of which this spinner would have been one but not for 300 k.[/QUOTE]Could have been some magical or golden pussy ("chocha de oro"). You just never know with these chicas (LOL).

[QUOTE=Bart1;1569223]I arrived 2300 hours Saturday May 17, total persons 20: 8 chicas, 12 chicos...[/QUOTE]

At least we can once again kill the myth that it is gringos who are causing chocha prices to soar. The Colombianos set the pricing structure based on what they are willing to pay. Always has been that way. Just look at Luna Lunera, Fase II, La Isla, San Diego Grill, Loutron. 99.9% Colombiano clientele, and some of the highest prices in all of Medellin.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1569223]20 k note for a 8 k beer, he had said he had no change. Liquid Lounge advertisement that on may 17 there was a show from 10 pm to 2 am. the quote was 100 k for hour for the room, or 70 k for 30 minutes, plus 200 k for her. [/QUOTE]Question?

Did you get your change?

So did they have any shows? I hate going to clubs and having to wait forever for them to get someone on stage. From AV8 R posts here and on Facebook, looks like they have a decent lineup of girls coming but if none of them want to go up on stage then isn't much of a strip club.

100 k for the room? She had to be bullchtting you. Even so, 200 k for her time plus wanted you to buy drinks. Not even close. Would have had to be super-duper magic ass.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1569223]They are advertising that they are now a strip club. I arrived 2300 hours Saturday May 17, total persons 20,8 chicas, 12 chicos... I gave the barman a 20 k note for a 8 k beer, he had said he had no change. Now this was not a centro bar giving the barman a 50 k note for a 3 k beer. Early Saturday a chicas facebook page showed a Liquid Lounge advertisement that on may 17 there was a show from 10 pm to 2 am. A beautiful young blonde spinner was doing the other national dance, the bump and grind, with a gringo. She walked past my table on her way to the bar, and stopped to say Hello, and asked my name, she stopped for 15 seconds, then continued on her way to the bar. She picked up her bag, and then reunited with the gringo and proceeded to go upstairs. As no show was happening I left to go to another bar in the area. Smitten by the hot flaquita I returned at 0100 am, and there she was. I invited her for a drink and asked her about the show, as nothing happening on stage. She said the dance was privado, which I took to understand was her and I upstairs. A couple of drinks later, she also asked me to buy one for her friend, who stayed for one drink with us. I asked her about going upstairs, the quote was 100 k for hour for the room, or 70 k for 30 minutes, plus 200 k for her. Because of the loud music and the separate prices I had her write down the figures so there would not be a misunderstanding. I thought 300 k a little high as I am not a 5 day holidayer blowing a wad in 5 days...as I am here for 2 months this trip. I declined as I had spent 3 hours with a semi-pro amiga earlier in the afternoon and as an older guy one a day is my maximum except in special cases of which this spinner would have been one but not for 300 k.[/QUOTE]I'm very disappointed to hear about all this, the bartender was probably trying to score a 12 K tip by telling you that he had no change as that is the oldest trick in the book. I'm not a cheap charlie but I'm not paying those prices for a one hour session. I was planning to swing by Liquid on Saturday but I'm not going to bother now,100 k for the room, for one hour?

For those who have never been to Medellin and / or who lack common sense or the sixth sense to detect danger, here's an interesting article for those who like to explore the city. As the author of the article noted: "This arbitrary list should not be interpreted as a travel warning, but rather an invitation to explore the parts of the city not mentioned below.".

[URL]http://colombiareports.co/go-areas-medellin/[/URL]

For those $100 US I have got many Skype contacts with several very good looking Colombianas.

Latineuro may be a slow site, but its equal to Cupid medias sites in finding girls.

Avoid [URL]http://www.latamdate.com/lang/en/index.php[/URL].

I paid $100 US and chatted with girls that wrote in English, they couldn't answer me in Spanish. What a joke. Then you must pay $100 US for reding, sending mails tec. You will end up paying $1000 US, and still be dependent on the site for arrange a date etc. 100% rip-off.

[URL]www.amolatina.com[/URL]

This site is also a scam. Expensive and ridiculous.

Thanks to Cubanuts advice I have found several female friends in Colombia.

The girls are real and you get their true email / Skype (phone I have yet not tried since I was communicating from Europe).

Thanks CubaMan.

[QUOTE=Cubanut;1557679]CJS,

You base your entire decision that LatinEuro is a scam from 1 post that was made back in 2007? I'm not shilling for them but back when I first found them in 1994 it was mailing addresses and phone numbers they gave. I would think by now the contacts they give are now cell numbers and email.

Anyway it also is possible for you to Vania at Latin Euro directly to them (they give their address, email and phone number) if you have any questions or problems. And they also offer a live translator service with Mara to help. And quite frankly you can't really go wrong if you just try a few contacts...[/QUOTE]

Yes you can date webcam models.

It takes a little money and time of course.

If the girl likes you there is a good chance she will date you.

Of course you must spend some money on her first, but that gives you and her a 100% review of the thought of sexpartner.

Many will not, but yes, since so many good looking girls prefers this work instead of being prepagos and they can choose their own date, yes.

Its the culture. Colombianas are open towards foreigners.

It is easier to date a Colombian webcam model than Russian girls from an dating site!

I strongely recommend Colombia for both having fun with prepagos and being serious.

But you need to loearn some Spanish, Colombians English skills are non-existent.

With some Spanish skills, many doors open up and cost of living and XXXX falls considerably.

[QUOTE=Cubanut;1569045]Hello gents,

A few months ago I caught up with a friend that had run the Cali Mansion a few years ago. At that time it was similar to the original Medellin Mansion set up but never got off the ground. Anyway, even back then he had 4 girls working web cams in the upper maids quarters which I never had a chance to check out.

Before heading to Cali, I emailed my old friend and he was happy to hear from me and even picked me up at the airport. It also happened that my hotel in Cali was just around the corner of his business in Cali. So after few days later I stopped by the office and boy was I surprised. You see the whole building he was in was a webcam operation. A 24 hour operation that had about 80 girls doing the webcam thing in 3 shifts. The funny thing is that when I told him I was heading to Medellin the next week he said so was he to ink a contract with the Liquid Lounge for extending the webcam business there. I believe AV8 TR mentioned it in a couple of posts regarding Liquid...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1569398]I'm very disappointed to hear about all this, the bartender was probably trying to score a 12 K tip by telling you that he had no change as that is the oldest trick in the book. [/QUOTE]My buddy was ordering a drink and gave him a 50 mil, guy behind the bar says he doesn't have change so I told him to get one for me if that's the case which he did and was able to provide change. Guess I threw a monkey wrench in his plan. They were pretty busy that night since it was there Grand Opening.

[QUOTE=Yujin;1569476]For those who have never been to Medellin and / or who lack common sense or the sixth sense to detect danger, here's an interesting article for those who like to explore the city. As the author of the article noted: "This arbitrary list should not be interpreted as a travel warning, but rather an invitation to explore the parts of the city not mentioned below.".

[URL]http://colombiareports.co/go-areas-medellin/[/URL][/QUOTE]Truth is you won't be missing much by not going to the places in Flora Baker's article.

But do you really want this woman's sense of safety detriming where you should and shouln't go.

[URL]http://floratheexplorer.com/about/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SBeach25;1569870]My buddy was ordering a drink and gave him a 50 mil, guy behind the bar says he doesn't have change so I told him to get one for me if that's the case which he did and was able to provide change. Guess I threw a monkey wrench in his plan. They were pretty busy that night since it was there Grand Opening.[/QUOTE]Really too bad to hear such negative reviews. I was looking forward to going and partying at this club on my first visit to MDE.

It sounds based on previous posts that I have been following that its been a lot of hard work getting this club off the ground. Just to have thrown away over a few pesos by the bartender. Really stupid move. You figured the bartender of all people would work hard for their tips especially getting the gig at a club especially for foreigners. A lot of potential for a lot of good tip money. Just to pull the I don't have change trick? Really he was that stupid? Oh well. That bartender probably just caused a lot of USD and Euros to go elsewhere.

[QUOTE=MdeJohn;1569356]Question?

Did you get your change?

So did they have any shows? I hate going to clubs and having to wait forever for them to get someone on stage. From AV8 R posts here and on Facebook, looks like they have a decent lineup of girls coming but if none of them want to go up on stage then isn't much of a strip club.

100 k for the room? She had to be bullchtting you. Even so, 200 k for her time plus wanted you to buy drinks. Not even close. Would have had to be super-duper magic ass.[/QUOTE]I had to go into my small note reserve which I always carry in a separate place to get small notes. The point I was making was surely this upscale bar could visit bancolombia and get change to run their business. The same thing happened when I went back several hours later, no change for a 20 k note, even in a centro bar I can get change for a 3 k beer with a 20 k note from the waiter.

[QUOTE=MdeJohn;1569356]Question?

Did you get your change?

So did they have any shows? I hate going to clubs and having to wait forever for them to get someone on stage. From AV8 R posts here and on Facebook, looks like they have a decent lineup of girls coming but if none of them want to go up on stage then isn't much of a strip club.

100 k for the room? She had to be bullchtting you. Even so, 200 k for her time plus wanted you to buy drinks. Not even close. Would have had to be super-duper magic ass.[/QUOTE]I doubt she was bullshitting me as we had talked for about 30 minutes and I told her I had lived in Medellin for the 6 months in each the past 2 years, so she knew I was not a newbie to Medalo, but I did tell her I had only visited the lounge once before back last October.

Sorry about the confusion at Liquid. I wrote a bit more on the Liquid thread for those interested in more detail. This is the first I heard of the bartender not having change, and it is of course not acceptable. He won't be here much longer. We are already looking for a replacement. And yes, some of the chicas are working scams, and we are cracking down. Things are still chaotic with our new influx of chicas, and we are trying to weed out the good and bad (and ugly Remember, there is always an administrator, Larry on site who is bilingual, and he can straighten out these kind of problems. His number is 301 445 7734, or you can contact me at " [EMAIL]elfotografo99@gmail.com[/EMAIL]. I move pretty fast when problems like this are brought to my attention.

With the election this week, when do they stop selling alcohol, Friday through Sunday?

All bars serving alcohol only will be closed this Saturday and Sunday including Liquid of course. I know it sucks, especially since it's Memorial Day Weekend and lots of Americans will be in Medellin. Friday will be a normal night.

If the chica prices at the Mansion are 150,000 pesos and at the various casas less, would the overall prices be pretty comparable to those at SJO? Assuming prices at Del Ray, Key Largo and Sportsman can usually be negotiated down from $100 to about $70 to $80 and that the massage places around SJO are around $40, wouldn't these prices be comparable to Medellin?

If prices are comparable, I don't see why it's worth it to fly the extra distance to Medellin especially when there is so much more else to do in Costa Rica. Maybe I'm wrong ...

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;1570673]If the chica prices at the Mansion are 150,000 pesos and at the various casas less, would the overall prices be pretty comparable to those at SJO? Assuming prices at Del Ray, Key Largo and Sportsman can usually be negotiated down from $100 to about $70 to $80 and that the massage places around SJO are around $40, wouldn't these prices be comparable to Medellin?

If prices are comparable, I don't see why it's worth it to fly the extra distance to Medellin especially when there is so much more else to do in Costa Rica. Maybe I'm wrong ...[/QUOTE]

It's about fun factor, Every place has its pluses and minuses. You can save a lot of money doing locals in any USA City. For most of us Tijuana MX would be the cheapest. CR is fun but requires a short flight from the USA The Dominican Republic would probably be about the same cost if you like darker booty, Thailand and the Phillipines might cost you less when you're there but it's a longer and more expensive flight, Lima Peru has got some good things going for it.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;1570673]If the chica prices at the Mansion are 150,000 pesos and at the various casas less, would the overall prices be pretty comparable to those at SJO? Assuming prices at Del Ray, Key Largo and Sportsman can usually be negotiated down from $100 to about $70 to $80 and that the massage places around SJO are around $40, wouldn't these prices be comparable to Medellin?

If prices are comparable, I don't see why it's worth it to fly the extra distance to Medellin especially when there is so much more else to do in Costa Rica. Maybe I'm wrong ...[/QUOTE]IMHO, and to state in your words you are wrong. As TD says, it is not about the price. If it is, why would you spend several hundreds of dollars and leave your home country? Ticas, in my opinion, do not even come close to paisas. You have to experience it at least once before one goes totally limp.

The change thing is always a problem! Taxis, a fresh juice, bars, it happens to me all the time. I think it is a serious economic flaw. Many times I did not buy things because they could not make change. Empanada shops always seem to have change.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1570031]I had to go into my small note reserve which I always carry in a separate place to get small notes. The point I was making was surely this upscale bar could visit bancolombia and get change to run their business. The same thing happened when I went back several hours later, no change for a 20 k note, even in a centro bar I can get change for a 3 k beer with a 20 k note from the waiter.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1570728]IMHO, and to state in your words you are wrong. As TD says, it is not about the price. If it is, why would you spend several hundreds of dollars and leave your home country? Ticas, in my opinion, do not even come close to paisas. You have to experience it at least once before one goes totally limp.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your comment. I thought that there are Columbians in SJO anyway and if $80 at the Del Ray is much the same as 150,000 pesos at the Mansion, then why go further to MDE?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;1570831]Thanks for your comment. I thought that there are Columbians in SJO anyway and if $80 at the Del Ray is much the same as 150,000 pesos at the Mansion, then why go further to MDE?[/QUOTE]Yeppp you're totally correct. Plenty of ColUmbians in SJO. Best to go no further and just stay in SJO.

There are Colombian women everywhere: Costa Rica, Panama, Miami, Peru, Ecuador but nothing compares to the Paisa in Medellin. By all means go to Del Ray and leave these chicas to those of us who make that extra 3 hour flight. Safe travels and enjoy.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;1570831]Thanks for your comment. I thought that there are Columbians in SJO anyway and if $80 at the Del Ray is much the same as 150,000 pesos at the Mansion, then why go further to MDE?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;1570673]If the chica prices at the Mansion are 150,000 pesos and at the various casas less, would the overall prices be pretty comparable to those at SJO?[/QUOTE]I agree with you, kind of.

Ricker as you probably know is being a tad sarcastic, in an amiable way. He has a point. A comparable-looking Del Rey chica won't budge from $100 and the experience likely will be shorter and more mechanical. Yes, your typical Colombian hooker outside of Colombia is hardened. But she's also away from home and possibly feeling a bit lonely and exposed. My suggestion, read Ricker's old posts about providing BFE and put them into action with Colombianas in Costa Rica. I have, both there and elsewhere, and it often works.

Anyone been there lately and what was the situation like?

If you feel more comfortable PM me.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1570835]Yeppp you're totally correct. Plenty of ColUmbians in SJO. Best to go no further and just stay in SJO.[/QUOTE]I have made 19 trips to CR & 6 trips to COL. I am hesitant to say I am a member of the "CR Sucks Club," but...

1. Medellin is a beautiful, world-class city while San Jose is well, just San Jose: cry:. Medellin is clean and modern, and its residents seem to take pride in it. If you play by the rules, you probably are safer in Medellin in spite of some of the problems lurking beneath the surface.

2. IMO, the quality of women in Medellin (in terms of looks, attitude and pricing) is much better than San Jose.

3. San Jose attracts a greater variety of women: Ticas, Nicas, Colombianas, Dominicanas, etc. Than Medellin. However, in Medellin, you will find a variety of colombianas from all over the country (European hispanics, blacks, morenas and indigenous).

4. Excluding the MM / EC operation, San Jose is more retail-oriented for mongering. Most of the action is concentrated in the gulch which is pretty easy to navigate after a trip or two. In Medellin, the action is spread out and it takes more time to learn your way around. Your efforts will be rewarded though, because there are many more venues to meet pros, semi-pros and non-pros.

5. English is spoken more in San Jose than in Medellin. You will find it easier to meet chicas and navigate, in Medellin, if you know some Spanish.

6. The overall cost of chicas, accomodations and meals in Medellin is less expensive than in San Jose.

7. Transportation in Medellin is superior to what is available in San Jose. There is nothing like the Metro transportation system in San Jose. A trip on the Metro costs less than 70 cents and you can get from one end of the city to the other in a matter of minutes. Medellin taxis are relatively inexpensive just like in San Jose.

8. Although mongering is prevalent in Medellin, it is not tolerated in public as well in San Jose. Sure, many Colombianos make good use of the ubiquitos casas and / or have a girlfriend or novia on the side...but they enjoy them quietly and discreetly. We can do the same and still enjoy ourselves. (The anecdotal middle-aged gringo with a 20 yo paisa in a public place does draw unwanted attention). : roll: I saw the looks and heard some of the comments when my novia and I met my 72 yo buddy with his 19 yo Mansion date at the Oviedo Crepes & Waffles. It does pay to keep a low profile when in Medellin and Colombia in general. The ultimate move to assure your privacy, and a degree of discretion, is to book an apartment. If it has multiple bedrooms and baths, you always have the option of sharing it with a wingman or two. Two or three wingmen make an ideal-sized group for doing all the activities you came for in the first place, yet small enough to stay below the radar. You'll end up with some pretty nice accommodations for a fraction of the cost of a standard hotel room. : wink:

9. Medellin is much larger than San Jose and "absorbs" extranjeros better. In San Jose, we trip over other gringos on the streets and in the bars, restaurants and hotels. Not so in Medellin. When I did extended stays in areas like Laureles and Guayabal, I have gone as long as a week without seeing other gringos. When I did see them, it was in areas like Poblado, Aves Maria (Sabaneta) or when I hooked up with CRT and **** guys. It's the same in the outlying pueblos of the Antioquia countryside. This is not much of a problem for me. But for those of us who enjoy the continual company of fellow countrymen...it may be.

Found this post over at C R T. It's a good post about how a newbie monger almost ended up in a world of shit while venturing out alone:

By [B]Dskreet[/B]:

"Up early. After Erica made my breakfast, I headed over to Energy again alone hoping to see one that I regretted passing up the day before but there was an entirely different crew there. Most of them were 7's but I still wasn't feeling it. I thought Olga may have permanently injured me.

Decided to head out on the Metro to the Metro Cables up to ARVI. I felt like Anthony Bourdain doing that on my own even though I know that he always has a least a cameraman with him. It was a beautiful day and I met a lady from Mexico who spoke perfect English with her paisa girlfriend on the way up. We had a pleasant, non-mongering type of conversation.

At the top, they headed out on a guided tour and I opted to sample the street food like I was on the Travel Channel or something. Finally decided to head back down and [b]made a series of stupid mistakes[/b].

First, I got into a cable car with four Colombian men in their late 30's or early 40's. After a while, I realized that they were talking about me and wondering where I might be from. One of them guessed Aleman!

Eventually, we began a very strained conversation. When they asked me if I was alone and what I did for a living, I told them the truth. Then one of them pulled out a cell phone and made a call. At that point, I realized that I had made a huge blunder.

When the Arvi cable got to the bottom of the first leg down, they invited me to go with them to the ticket window for the next cable car down to the Metro. I feigned an urge to use the bathroom and shook free. Then I waited for ten cable cars to leave the platform before I got into the next car with a family. Disaster avoided. Lessons learned. Next time I am asked if I'm alone, I know to say that no, there are about 10 other Gringos waiting for me, and when I'm asked what I do, I now know to say that I'm a missionary.

Got back to the mansion and it was dead. Either all of the Chicas were with boyfriends for Saturday night, or at Liquid Lounge' grand opening. I wasn't going back to that place even if Shakeera and Jennifer Lopez were there. Went to bed by 10:00 pm exhausted and slept like a rock. Thanks, Olga!"

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;1570766]The change thing is always a problem! Taxis, a fresh juice, bars, it happens to me all the time. I think it is a serious economic flaw. Many times I did not buy things because they could not make change. Empanada shops always seem to have change.[/QUOTE]This is an issue in Medellin and can only be avoided by hoarding small bills. Use your 50's and 20's to pay for things accumulating small bills. When you have a 50 and a 10 a something cost 10 pay with the 50. The guys who don't do this are the guys stuck with the big bills.

When you enter a cab or are looking for change ask the person, "tiene la devuelta por cincuenta mil?" My Spanish is not that good but I have memorized about a hundred phrases that I use often and this is one of them.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1570850]Anyone been there lately and what was the situation like?

If you feel more comfortable PM me.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I read two reports that said the park was closed but I haven't seen anything to indicate this. I was here for 7 weeks in January and February and have currently been here for a month. I have smoked pot in this park multiple times on this trip.

The police presence in El Centro is the most that I have ever seen currently. I have even seen police with drug sniffing dogs searching for drugs. With all of this being said I always have a joint in my wallet and smoke pot in different spots throughout El Centro.

If you buy pot in Periodista it is sold as a skinny joint with a filter on the end. 3 k per joint. A good place to buy pot in El Centro is at the entrance of the minimall entering Chicaspuntos and SF3. There are bunch of guys handing out business cards for mps. Tell these guys to walk over one street and get some for you. 2.5 k per joint, decent stuff, fat joints rolled individually in aluminum foil. Offer the guy more or less 10 k to make the run for you.

On this trip I have been smoking a bunch of pot in the mps. I would say about 1/3 will let you smoke, 1/3 will want a small tip, and 1/3 won't allow it. On this trip the only place I haven't smoked in was New Life.

If any of you out there smoke pot and like casa runs send me a pm and I will show you the ropes. I will be here for another 3 months.

See the Liquid thread for more details and Videos of our latest crop of new talent eager to meet Gringos.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3546-LIQUID-STRIP-[/URL](formerly-Liquid-Lounge)&p=1571157&posted=1#post1571157.

How does one facebook negotiate a rate for dos chicas you know already. They are friends. And now you're going to have them together at a short stay hotel.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1570835]Yeppp you're totally correct. Plenty of ColUmbians in SJO. Best to go no further and just stay in SJO.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1570855]I have made 19 trips to CR & 6 trips to COL. I am hesitant to say I am a member of the "CR Sucks Club," but...

1. Medellin is a beautiful, world-class city while San Jose is well, just San Jose: cry:. Medellin is clean and modern, and its residents seem to take pride in it. If you play by the rules, you probably are safer in Medellin in spite of some of the problems lurking beneath the ...[/QUOTE]Yeppp... Obviously I was Joking around, duh LOL.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1570850]Anyone been there lately and what was the situation like?

If you feel more comfortable PM me.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I was through there several times about three weeks ago. Looked the same as it has in the past. Kids smoking weed and hanging out. I'm a fan of the casa across the street.

Just came back from a great 8 day trip. Lots of fun and many new places.

I would tend not to get change from cabbies...mainly for fear of getting counterfeit cash.

It happened to a friend of mine who was paying for a cab from the Mansion to Fase Dos.

How do you ask a chica if she is on her period in Spanish? This is the first time this has happened in a very long time (switching positions and find blood all over the condom). Would like to avoid this in the future if possible. I can't think of anything else that kills the mood quicker than being covered in someone else's blood.

Also, when I was here in January all the buses were 1,800 pesos. Now they are all back down to 1,700 pesos (like before). Any idea what happened there?

Also, also, from what I could gather from one of my chicas it looks like the election held yesterday was a tie, so there will be another election soon (she doen't know when). The h0e train was running kinda slow yesterday due to folks out voting.

[quote=beersterry;1572364]i would tend not to get change from cabbies...mainly for fear of getting counterfeit cash.

it happened to a friend of mine who was paying for a cab from the mansion to fase dos.[/quote]i intentionally go out of my way to do this as a first opportunity to break down bills. the largest possible bill you can receive back is a 20 k bill.

i have to believe there are many more people that instinctively look closer at 50's, similar to 100's in the us. even if it was noticed they wouldn't confirep001e it. i would attempt to pass it off to someone else.

this actually happen to me with a 50 k euro bill in europe.

i can't imagine anything happening, over one 20 k counterfeit, even if detected by authorities. we all to sleep with ourselves at night so do as you will and avoid stress if possible.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1572608]How do you ask a chica if she is on her period in Spanish? This is the first time this has happened in a very long time (switching positions and find blood all over the condom). Would like to avoid this in the future if possible. I can't think of anything else that kills the mood quicker than being covered in someone else's blood.

Also, when I was here in January all the buses were 1,800 pesos. Now they are all back down to 1,700 pesos (like before). Any idea what happened there?

Also, also, from what I could gather from one of my chicas it looks like the election held yesterday was a tie, so there will be another election soon (she doen't know when). The h0e train was running kinda slow yesterday due to folks out voting.[/QUOTE]The election wasn't really a tie, in order to avoid a run-off election the winner must receive at least 50% of the vote, so it is quite common to have a run off election, the run off will be held June 15th. I got caught off guard by the election myself, no booze. Funny thing was I knew the election was going to fall during my trip but I just totally lost track of the days and took some friends out to dinner and tried to order a bottle of wine, nope. I'm going to be back in Colombia during the run off but now I have a reminder set on my IPad to go to the market two days prior and get a bottle of rum so I can at least get drunk at my apartment if I want to.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1572608]How do you ask a chica if she is on her period in Spanish? This is the first time this has happened in a very long time (switching positions and find blood all over the condom). Would like to avoid this in the future if possible. I can't think of anything else that kills the mood quicker than being covered in someone else's blood.[/QUOTE]Tienes la regla?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1572716]The election wasn't really a tie, in order to avoid a run-off election the winner must receive at least 50% of the vote, so it is quite common to have a run off election, the run off will be held June 15th.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mani, I think that is what she was trying to explain to me (that there would be a run-off), but I had a hard time comprehending it (was interpreting what she said as a tie).

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1572716]I got caught off guard by the election myself, no booze. Funny thing was I knew the election was going to fall during my trip but I just totally lost track of the days and took some friends out to dinner and tried to order a bottle of wine, nope. I'm going to be back in Colombia during the run off but now I have a reminder set on my IPad to go to the market two days prior and get a bottle of rum so I can at least get drunk at my apartment if I want to.[/QUOTE]I hear you bro. I usually always bring two large bottles of booze in my check baggage, and then load up with two or three more at the Duty Free on my connecting flight to Medellin. If I run out of booze during the trip I just get more from Exito.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;1572823]Tienes la regla?[/QUOTE]Later last night (after I posted the question about "Blood on the Dance Floor") she sent me a message that said she did not know it was her "periodo", so I think that word works as well. Thanks for the response!

I stopped by New Life yesterday and had a fun time with Kaory. I have heard some guys on here ask if there were hot girls with big tits and ass in Medellin. This girl is a solid 9 on my rating scale and has a beautiful face and body. Tits are fake but look OK. IMO she is one of the hottest girls in El Centro. This girl was super honest with me making our connection in the waiting room very cool. Even though she had been at New Life for over a year I still decided to take her.

She started with a very good 6-8 minute BBBJ. Before sex I asked her if I could rub my dick bareback on her clit. She said no. I told her if she had worked here a week instead of a year she would do it. She totally caught the significance and laughed. She told that me she had already been with 5 guys this day. It was only 2 p. She said that she averaged 8-10 guys per day. She said the most that she had done in one day was 14.

I slid the condom on and she had lube. I told her only a little. She insisted on a bunch. I said let's start with a little and go from there. Sex was good. After a few minutes we needed more lube. She reminded me that she was right in needing more lube. I told her that the only reason we needed so much is because she had done 5 guys earlier that day. She laughed playfully. Before I finished in doogie the condom broke. I continued for 10 seconds, pulled out, and came on her back. I was too lazy to slide the broken condom off so she noticed when I came in the mirror. I told her that I only continued for 10 seconds and had no intention of this happening which was true. She was a good sport and asked me to buy her a soda for sterilization which I did. I kissed her on the cheek and said chow. Fun session but won't repeat.

40 k +30 k BBBJ for half hour. I am sure that someone on this board has a picture of her. If so, post a picture of this beauty.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1572888]Later last night (after I posted the question about "Blood on the Dance Floor") she sent me a message that said she did not know it was her "periodo", so I think that word works as well. Thanks for the response![/QUOTE]I forgot to add that periodo is the word that I have heard used,"tengo mi periodo", okay buh bye then...

[quote=vegasjeff;1572668]i intentionally go out of my way to do this as a first opportunity to break down bills. the largest possible bill you can receive back is a 20 k bill.

i have to believe there are many more people that instinctively look closer at 50's, similar to 100's in the us. even if it was noticed they wouldn't confirep001e it. i would attempt to pass it off to someone else.

this actually happen to me with a 50 k euro bill in europe.

i can't imagine anything happening, over one 20 k counterfeit, even if detected by authorities. we all to sleep with ourselves at night so do as you will and avoid stress if possible.[/quote]just ask for nothing over a 20 k bill when you go to the cambio, that's what i did last week. not for fear of getting a counterfeit but the hassle of difficulty with tiendas and taxistas not being able to accept a 50 k because they don't have the change.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1573042]I forgot to add that periodo is the word that I have heard used,"tengo mi periodo", okay buh bye then...[/QUOTE]"Tienes periodo / regla / menstruacion?" All function.

FWIW, if I bring a chica to my room and she's during her period, I send her back with taxi money only.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1572608]How do you ask a chica if she is on her period in Spanish? [/QUOTE]If the girl is not a complete moron or that much of a hood rat that she doesn't understand simple Spanish, it's quite an easy question.

"Are you menstruating"? = "Estas menstruando"? (mens thru on do).

And yes you can get all "in the culture" way of saying it. But why? How simple a question is "Estas menstruando?

If a girls showing Red, she ain't laying in my bed!

Stay horny (and blood free) my Friends.

Cubanut

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1572897]

40 k +30 k BBBJ for half hour. [/QUOTE]Are you saying you gave the casa lady a 30 k tip?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1572608]it looks like the election held yesterday was a tie, so there will be another election soon (she doen't know when).[/QUOTE]Santos and Zuluaga will face off..

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1573260]Are you saying you gave the casa lady a 30 k tip?[/QUOTE]40 k 1/2 hour rate at New Life. 30 k tip for BBBJ to the girl.

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1573563]40 k 1/2 hour rate at New Life. 30 k tip for BBBJ to the girl.[/QUOTE]Did the prices go up at NL? I was there last week and it seemed like I paid less than 40 K for a 1/2 hour?

Does anyone know if this girl is a webcam girl? She's beautiful and pictures look like she is..

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/karolina.paniagua.16[/URL]

[QUOTE=DmeHcg;1573855]Does anyone know if this girl is a webcam girl? She's beautiful and pictures look like she is..

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/karolina.paniagua.16[/URL][/QUOTE]Why not just ask her directly, if she is she'll tell you because she'll want your $.

Yeah.. She didn't take it well! Shrug! Oh well!

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1573896]Why not just ask her directly, if she is she'll tell you because she'll want your $.[/QUOTE]

Men, Its important to mention for those of you that get off track that these girls, allthough coniving are also very good people,. If you treat them as a business comodity youll get the lies and deciet, If you play the game a little and enjoy the experience, and don't count every peso, itll be better for every one.

[QUOTE=Jet69;1522734]Sorry to hear the Mayo is declining. Clearly the street is not for everyone, but my two stops in October were fun. I enjoyed walking and checking it all out and was entertained for a few hours. Never pulled from the area, but will go back just to be entertained by the seedier side. Everyone should see it once, especially those that hole up at the Mansion. I would not go alone but with a wingman, it is / was worthwhile. Later at night, other than strip clubs there is limited stuff to do. Mayorista was always a fallback. Hoping to check out some dance clubs this next trip. I am not afraid to jump in with the locals and have fun, but being in my 50's, may find it harder to get accepted? Not trying to pick up woman, just watching having some fun. Any suggestions for disco fever?[/QUOTE]I went to Mayorista 2 years ago and it was funny. I met some very beautifun girls. I liked to meet them again but it was very difficult to contact them by phone. No girls answered to calls. What a pity Mayorysta is declining. Is there another street or area like Mayorista in Medellin?

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1574316]I went to Mayorista 2 years ago and it was funny. I met some very beautiful girls. I liked to meet them again but it was very difficult to contact them by phone. No girls answered to calls. What a pity Mayorysta is declining. Is there another street or area like Mayorista in Medellin?[/QUOTE]La Mayorista has been around forever and unless there is LE pressure (to shut it down) it will remain a valid place to do business. The ebb and flow of talent can be hit or miss at any venue, any time, that's what probably happened this time.

I've had a couple of unforgettable times there.

Question? Are the police allowing the bars to have tables on the sidewalk these days? If so when do they close the sidewalk up, it used to be around midnight. What's it like now?

I'll be hunting there in a couple of months.

Ciao!

[QUOTE=Socker;1574547]La Mayorista has been around forever and unless there is LE pressure (to shut it down) it will remain a valid place to do business. The ebb and flow of talent can be hit or miss at any venue, any time, that's what probably happened this time.

I've had a couple of unforgettable times there.

Question? Are the police allowing the bars to have tables on the sidewalk these days? If so when do they close the sidewalk up, it used to be around midnight. What's it like now?

I'll be hunting there in a couple of months.

Ciao![/QUOTE]Well put Socker.

Also, I'm just back from a visit, the Mayo remains as you said, with about a midnight bar closing time.

As always, the Mayo is mostly lower end PFP, however, as always, I found a couple keepers and sweethearts out there as well.

All depends on your approach and abilities really.

These girls react to uncommon kindness and cool with great affection.


Have fun!

It sure is great to be back in city with the most beautiful women in the world after being away since December. I met a sweetheart in a casa up on avenida oriental. Visited her 2 days in the row and then asked if she wanted to go away overnight with me to Santa Fe de Antioquia, a weekend resort town visited by the locals 2 hours away. She have never visited the pueblo. We stayed in my favorite hotel with a pool, all chicas love swimming pools. I smile when I read on this site when guys says they are in their 50's and old, this beautiful flacquita chica is 19 and I have 2 grand daughters older than her. God what I would give to be 50 again! I have stayed there many times over the past 4 years with chicas. This is my testing ground for chicas for possible longer travel trips. I have taken 2 chicas for their first plane rides in Colombia and neither of them would consent to joining the 'mile high club' with me, I still have hope that I am not going to end my life with never having become a member. I walked yesterday in a circle trip on Junin 'the walking street' across La Playa to San Antonio then back to Plaza Botero, in 2 hours, walking, shopping, generic viagra $0.80 per 100 mg, '3200 k for box with 2 -100 mg pills' lunch I saw no gringos. A month ago in Havana I met a guy from the UK who works rigs in the north sea who visits Cuba 6 times a year, he works 30 on and 30 off, I questioned him why he had not visited Colombia, he said all his friends say too dangerous. That is great, very little gringo competition for me here. I am always amazed how friendly paisas are, even walking past stores, cafes and not entering I get big smiles and waves from staff that recognize me from 5 months ago.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1574638]It sure is great to be back in city with the most beautiful women in the world after being away since December. I met a sweetheart in a casa up on avenida oriental. Visited her 2 days in the row and then asked if she wanted to go away overnight with me to Santa Fe de Antioquia, a weekend resort town visited by the locals 2 hours away. She have never visited the pueblo. We stayed in my favorite hotel with a pool, all chicas love swimming pools. I smile when I read on this site when guys says they are in their 50's and old, this beautiful flacquita chica is 19 and I have 2 grand daughters older than her. God what I would give to be 50 again! I have stayed there many times over the past 4 years with chicas. This is my testing ground for chicas for possible longer travel trips. I have taken 2 chicas for their first plane rides in Colombia and neither of them would consent to joining the 'mile high club' with me, I still have hope that I am not going to end my life with never having become a member.[/QUOTE]Could give more details of your Santa Fe side trip? Name of hotel? Finca? Booking info, cost? Your budget? Compensation for your date? What's there to do besides laying in the sun by the pool?

As for the mile high club, it's always good to have a goal, LOL! But are you taking about full on sex in the air or maybe a BBBJ in the bathroom stall? Isn't a flight like this under a hour in duration and during the daytime with other passengers awake? Most experiences that I have heard involves long haul overnight type flights with lay flat seats, jajaja.

These chicas kill me with their obsession with silicone. Had one chica over last night who is easily a solid 8 (so she would be a 10 in the US), natural curves and ass, but wants to get her abs done and a nose job. Already has the bolt-ons. I'm like "why not leave well-enough alone? Don't know how big facial plastic surgery is here, but why would they want to look like those frozen-face bimbos in Hollywood?

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrvGcY3Eq5U[/URL]

Oh, and it's been scorching hot as fuck here! Our only savior has been the rain. Everything cools down after it passes. Just don't get caught out in it (the rain), LOL!

Have always wondered but never asked and couldn't find it on the forum. Where exactly is the Mayorista?

Thanks

Santa Fe info.

I can give some info on Santa Fe, it's a great two day weekend getaway. Temp is about 10-15 degrees warmer then Medellin.

Start here for hotels.

[URL]http://www.santafedeantioquia.net/hoteles.html[/URL]

Ok I get there, on a Friday and just chill by the pool add beers to the mix play pool or ping pong and relax with my friends. It's a place to go either a couple or 4 or 6. Usually every hotel includes meals in the price. But check. They even give me a meal before I take off for lunch on Sunday. At night we head down to the main square in Santa Fe. We hit every bar in the back left of the square there is a small disco we go. We meet people and have some times been invited back to the locals fincas to drink. There is a lot of new money there, lot of locals that been farmers for generations have sold off some of there land to developers and are suddenly rich. Or rich by Colombian standards. Something to understand that most hotels do not have hot showers because it's so hot there already. Compensate your date? No clue that's for you to work out, taking girls on vacation and paying them isn't my bag. I have had such great times at that stupid disco in the square we just met other funny people and combo of good times good music and people have left memorable experiences. Another place I go for a long weekend is Jardin. 2 hours away, lots of drinking, horses, and trout fishing and eating. They have like three places where you can catch fish and they cook them right there for you. Plus the square has about 12 bars.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1574666]
Oh, and it's been scorching hot as fuck here! Our only savior has been the rain. Everything cools down after it passes. Just don't get caught out in it (the rain), LOL![/QUOTE]Another thing I love about this city: the weather here changes like a used condom, LOL. Today is absolutely gorgeous outside. Enough cloud cover to keep the sun from beating you up too much.

Just walked past a couple of Para Military guys dressed head to toe in fatigues, helmet, and M-16's slung across their chests. It's safe to say that security is taken very seriously around here.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1574707]Another thing I love about this city: the weather here changes like a used condom, LOL. Today is absolutely gorgeous outside. Enough cloud cover to keep the sun from beating you up too much.

Just walked past a couple of Para Military guys dressed head to toe in fatigues, helmet, and M-16's slung across their chests. It's safe to say that security is taken very seriously around here.[/QUOTE]I just got back from Manizales and there were Military / cops on almost every street corner day and night, never saw that before there, well at least in those numbers anyway. Nonetheless, another uneventful trip in regards to safety but then again I know not to "no des papaya".

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1574729]I just got back from Manizales and there were Military / cops on almost every street corner day and night, never saw that before there, well at least in those numbers anyway. Nonetheless, another uneventful trip in regards to safety but then again I know not to "no des papaya".[/QUOTE]Of course heavy military presence. Before during and after elections. Show people that whoever they voted for there safe. Give it another 10 days you will see less.

[QUOTE=Bbrocs;1574706]Santa Fe info.

I can give some info on Santa Fe, it's a great two day weekend getaway. Temp is about 10-15 degrees warmer then Medellin.

Start here for hotels.

[URL]http://www.santafedeantioquia.net/hoteles.html[/URL]
. . .[/QUOTE]Thanks for your insights. How are prices for food & entertainment compared to MDE? Are there reliable van or bus service to get there or must you hire a private car or taxi to get to Santa Fe or Jardin?

Are there casas, strip clubs or just places to find available prepagos there ... P4 P in either town?

[QUOTE=Almotu;1574747]Thanks for your insights. How are prices for food & entertainment compared to MDE? Are there reliable van or bus service to get there or must you hire a private car or taxi to get to Santa Fe or Jardin?

Are there casas, strip clubs or just places to find available prepagos there . P4 P in either town?[/QUOTE]Food was included with the price of our hotel. The place we stayed was eighty thousand pesos a person per night. You can take a bus. It drops you out there then you can grab a taxi to whatever hotel you booked. Bars were cheaper then Medellin poblado but on par with laureles, centro for beers and shots. I have no info on casas or strip clubs out there. I would think you should bring someone with you.

[QUOTE=Almotu;1574655]Could give more details of your Santa Fe side trip? Name of hotel? Finca? Booking info, cost? Your budget? Compensation for your date? What's there to do besides laying in the sun by the pool?

As for the mile high club, it's always good to have a goal, LOL! But are you taking about full on sex in the air or maybe a BBBJ in the bathroom stall? Isn't a flight like this under a hour in duration and during the daytime with other passengers awake? Most experiences that I have heard involves long haul overnight type flights with lay flat seats, jajaja. [/QUOTE]I was refering to 2 trips Medellin to San Andres 3. 5 hour flight times. Colombian Island 800 km north off the coast of Colombia. Santa Fe is a 2 hour bus trip.

[QUOTE=MdeJohn;1574699]Have always wondered but never asked and couldn't find it on the forum. Where exactly is the Mayorista?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Take a left at the top of the stairs coming out of Ayura metro station and keep walking for about 5 minutes. You will see about 50 - 60 girls waiting for customers outside the bars and hotels from about 9:30 onwards. The metro closes at about 11 but there are plenty of taxis around and they are very cheap. Any driver will know where Mayorista is.

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1572897]I stopped by New Life yesterday and had a fun time with Kaory. I have heard some guys on here ask if there were hot girls with big tits and ass in Medellin. This girl is a solid 9 on my rating scale and has a beautiful face and body. Tits are fake but look OK. IMO she is one of the hottest girls in El Centro. This girl was super honest with me making our connection in the waiting room very cool. Even though she had been at New Life for over a year I still decided to take her.

She started with a very good 6-8 minute BBBJ. Before sex I asked her if I could rub my dick bareback on her clit. She said no. I told her if she had worked here a week instead of a year she would do it. She totally caught the significance and laughed. She told that me she had already been with 5 guys this day. It was only 2 p. She said that she averaged 8-10 guys per day. She said the most that she had done in one day was 14.

I slid the condom on and she had lube. I told her only a little. She insisted on a bunch. I said let's start with a little and go from there. Sex was good. After a few minutes we needed more lube. She reminded me that she was right in needing more lube. I told her that the only reason we needed so much is because she had done 5 guys earlier that day. She laughed playfully. Before I finished in doogie the condom broke. I continued for 10 seconds, pulled out, and came on her back. I was too lazy to slide the broken condom off so she noticed when I came in the mirror. I told her that I only continued for 10 seconds and had no intention of this happening which was true. She was a good sport and asked me to buy her a soda for sterilization which I did. I kissed her on the cheek and said chow. Fun session but won't repeat.

40 k +30 k BBBJ for half hour. I am sure that someone on this board has a picture of her. If so, post a picture of this beauty.[/QUOTE]A 75 percent tip seems a bit excessive to me. I bet the girl was happy! NL was 38 k for 30 minutes when I was there in 2013. There were normally about 15 girls with several really attractive ones. Probably the best of the Centro cases.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1574784]I was refering to 2 trips Medellin to San Andres 3.5 hour flight times. Colombian Island 800 km north off the coast of Colombia. Santa Fe is a 2 hour bus trip.[/QUOTE]Sorry my friend, Medellin to San andres is about a 2 hour flight. Not counting the short flight to Bogota to change planes. Don't think your joining any mile high clubs on these flights. Nice try though.

[QUOTE=BeersTerry;1572364]I would tend not to get change from cabbies. mainly for fear of getting counterfeit cash.

It happened to a friend of mine who was paying for a cab from the Mansion to Fase Dos.[/QUOTE]I have spent a total of about a year in 2 trips to Medellin and have never had a problem with getting fake notes from cabbies or anyone else for that matter. Guess I have been lucky. Personally I really like Medellin cabbies because they are always friendly and up for a chat (which is handy for me as I am always looking for a victim to practice my Spanish on! The only problem I had is when they don't want to take me to some of the less than hospitable barrios to meet my 'friends' Oh we'll, there's always the bus.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1570850]Anyone been there lately and what was the situation like?

If you feel more comfortable PM me.

Thanks. [/QUOTE]I just finished reading some of the previous posts regarding safety in Medellin. A lot of you need to stop worrying and just go and have fun. The Medellin of today is not like the days of Pablo Escobar. How many of you remember those days? I was there in Laureles and Estadio. These are good areas but back then you would hear gunshots throughout the night. So imagine what it could really have been like in a bad area? Like any big city Medellin does have its rough areas. Fortunately, you have no reason to be in them. Some of you have an interest in Parque Periodista. Let me tell you in the bad days my friends would not stay for even 5 minutes while there at night. Now it's not so bad, yet even still they refuse to linger for any great lenght of time. Beware! Some of you hang out at Mayoritsta. The surrounding hills is just like in the movie "La Sierra" The poor brave cabbies who go up there at night have to drive with their interior lights on otherwise they would be met with a haill of gunfire. This is not 15 years ago but right now! Unless you have a girlfriend who lives there, then don't worry about this! Finally, I CAUTION you not to venture anywhere that is 1 hour or more away from Medellin, (away from the gringo trail). Your odds of meeting face to face with a guerilla or a paramilitary go up to like 95% I unwittingly ended up in this situation and believe me you do not want to do the same. Read up and study the city or the area you want to go to.

[QUOTE=Samxman;1574800]A 75 percent tip seems a bit excessive to me. I bet the girl was happy! NL was 38 k for 30 minutes when I was there in 2013. There were normally about 15 girls with several really attractive ones. Probably the best of the Centro cases. [/QUOTE]That sounds closer to what I paid 2 weeks ago. Anyone have a pic of the price listing?

Might not be long before they realize some gringos are willing to pay more and they add a gringo tax like Costa Rica LOL.

[QUOTE=Asianpussylover;1575022]I just finished reading some of the previous posts regarding safety in Medellin. A lot of you need to stop worrying and just go and have fun. The Medellin of today is not like the days of Pablo Escobar. How many of you remember those days? I was there in Laureles and Estadio. These are good areas but back then you would hear gunshots throughout the night. So imagine what it could really have been like in a bad area? Like any big city Medellin does have its rough areas. Fortunately, you have no reason to be in them. Some of you have an interest in Parque Periodista. Let me tell you in the bad days my friends would not stay for even 5 minutes while there at night. Now it's not so bad, yet even still they refuse to linger for any great lenght of time. Beware! Some of you hang out at Mayoritsta. The surrounding hills is just like in the movie "La Sierra" The poor brave cabbies who go up there at night have to drive with their interior lights on otherwise they would be met with a haill of gunfire. This is not 15 years ago but right now! Unless you have a girlfriend who lives there, then don't worry about this! Finally, I CAUTION you not to venture anywhere that is 1 hour or more away from Medellin, (away from the gringo trail). Your odds of meeting face to face with a guerilla or a paramilitary go up to like 95% I unwittingly ended up in this situation and believe me you do not want to do the same. Read up and study the city or the area you want to go to.[/QUOTE]I've been lucky and have never had any problems (touch wood) but nearly everybody I know in Medellin (gringos and Colombians) have been robbed in the city. A house mate got robbed twice in 2 weeks which has to be something of a record. Most robbers will threaten you with a knife but some do use guns.

I from time to time get the over flow from the Mansion being booked such the case yesterday. Keep me in mind when this happens to you because I deliver a very different experience but just as much fun! Took Sam to one of the higher level casas where he found one to his liking and followed up with a nice date where they walked around parque Lleras looking at the Harley show. He a little bite to eat and back for some romance nothing like it offered with a quality chica full of fun! Look me up! Colombia Jake.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1575055]That sounds closer to what I paid 2 weeks ago. Anyone have a pic of the price listing?

Might not be long before they realize some gringos are willing to pay more and they add a gringo tax like Costa Rica LOL.[/QUOTE]I was in Costa Rica before and after tipping hit the scene. An occasional $2-4 turned into a mandatory $10+. Not much has changed in Medellin in recent years as tipping was already in every venue within the city. The gringo tax is already here but things are pretty relaxed.

This particular girl is smoking hot and would do well in any venue in Medellin. I gave her my rap and offered her 20 k. She said 50 k. I turned my head away and she grabbed my arm and said that she would do it for 30 k and it would be relaxed and very good. I only agreed because she was smoking hot and I was clicking with this chick and wanted to hold the mood. Sometimes when girls give me shit about these things I tell them my girlfriend works as a secretary for a lawyer and she makes 4 k per hour. If they are not hardcore pros this usually snaps them out of their dramas.

Fellas,

I many posts on other places so feel free to check them out. However I need your help on this one.

Costa Rica- SJ- Hotel Del Rey- cost is $55 USD plus tax and $10 FEE for each girl.

Girls in Hotel Del Rey- anywhere from $60 to $90 for short time.

ALL night- TLN- negotiate prob like USD $125-USD 150.

Now if I were to go to Medellin:

Hotel Costs: anywhere form $75 to $100 at the following: Hotel Ibis Medellíand and Hotel Le Parc.

These hotels were chosen due to their distance to Fase Dos and safety area.

FASE DOS: $5 to $10 USD Cover Charge to Get in.

Girls in FASE DOSE: rate is $90 USD which includes their room, South Beach Hostel room for short time.

*Now to take a girl out and back to your hotel. Would it be $90 USD plus $50 USD exit fee, so $140 USD for short time, an hour back at your hotel.

For all night, TLN- how much would she charge?

I know there are others places other than FASE DOS but for a newbie to Medellin I would think that would be best place in terms of talent and comparing it Del Rey of CR SJ in terms of quantity and quality.

If my numbers are correct, I don't then see how Medellin is anywhere cheaper than Del Rey of San Jose. I do understand the WOMEN are MORE GORGEOUS.

What about La Mayorista and picking up girl on the street, I am sure they would charge less, but are good looking ones and is the AREA SAFE.

At this point. When you factor plane ticket costs from USA to either Costa Rica or Medellin, the hotel costs, and girl costs.

I think at Del Rey for a weekend you can get more girls for a lot less then you would pay in Medellin.

Please let me know if I am incorrect. Thank you.

If you like fake breasts, surgically enhanced unnatural bodies, and mechanical sex then Face 2 is meant for you and you'll be in your own heaven.

Have you thought about staying in the Mansion or whatever it's called nowadays. It sounds better for a weekend! Lookup their site and make that comparison. I think that is better choice, and you'll be with other mongers who can give you tips and info on day time casas. Lots of pretty girls come to the mansion. I remember they had a photo catalogue of scores of girls back in 2009.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1575171]Fellas,

I many posts on other places so feel free to check them out. However I need your help on this one.

I think at Del Rey for a weekend you can get more girls for a lot less then you would pay in Medellin.

Please let me know if I am incorrect. Thank you. [/QUOTE]

Mansion I believe is called Hotel Medellin Plaza and rooms go for $150 USD to over $200 USD a night.

Del Rey in SJ CR is $65 a night includes taxes.

Well, that just settles it for you. Del Ray is better.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1575186]Mansion I believe is called Hotel Medellin Plaza and rooms go for $150 USD to over $200 USD a night.

Del Rey in SJ CR is $65 a night includes taxes. [/QUOTE]The majority of travelers don't stay at HDR or HMP. Both cities have got numerous lodging options for every budget. However, how many colombianas available and in business are in SJO at any given moment? There is no comparison. Daily options in MDE are 50 KCOP and nightly 100 KCOP. Won't find too many takers among colombianas in SJO at these levels.

Ok so we figure we find more cheaper budge lodging.

Now these colombians for "Daily options in MDE are 50 KCOP and nightly 100 KCOP" these arent the prices from Fase Dose or any of the other clubs.

Are these streetwalker prices, or massage parlor prices.

Is La Mayorista safe.

[QUOTE=Questner;1575198]The majority of travelers don't stay at HDR or HMP. Both cities have got numerous lodging options for every budget. However, how many colombianas available and in business are in SJO at any given moment? There is no comparison. Daily options in MDE are 50 KCOP and nightly 100 KCOP. Won't find too many takers among colombianas in SJO at these levels. [/QUOTE]

Also.

Is Wendy still there or in Miami.

Https: www. Facebook. Com / wendy. Dalila1?fref=ts.

Ok so we figure we find more cheaper budge lodging.

Now these colombians for "Daily options in MDE are 50 KCOP and nightly 100 KCOP" these arent the prices from Fase Dose or any of the other clubs.

Are these streetwalker prices, or massage parlor prices.

Is La Mayorista safe.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1575171]I think at Del Rey for a weekend you can get more girls for a lot less then you would pay in Medellin.

Please let me know if I am incorrect. Thank you.[/QUOTE]I do not want to single you out. But why be such a putz that you should have to make a decision of whether or not to visit Medellin based solely on how much money you will spend / save? Especially if it's such an insignificant amount?

I mean really, I can see if you are looking at a long term stay. But just a visit? Come on. Don't be a cheap Charlie to yourself. The experience you can have in Medellin can be awesome or just OK, depending on how you go about it. But why deny yourself the opportunity to see for yourself just because you "calculate" it will cost a few more (or less) bucks?

You will always hear mongers say GOOD and BAD things about Medellin, the Mansion, Parque, LLeras, the El Central Casas, the Upscale Casas Mayorista, The strip clubs etc. It depends on who's reports (s) you are reading.

Do yourself a favor and "Begin the Beguine".

Stay Horny My Friends.

Cubanut

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1575186]Mansion I believe is called Hotel Medellin Plaza and rooms go for $150 USD to over $200 USD a night.

Del Rey in SJ CR is $65 a night includes taxes. [/QUOTE]The prices you are quoting for rooms at Medellin Plaza are incorrect sir. You are quoting in dollars when the prices on their website are in pesos.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1575204]Ok so we figure we find more cheaper budge lodging.

Now these colombians for "Daily options in MDE are 50 KCOP and nightly 100 KCOP" these arent the prices from Fase Dose or any of the other clubs.

Are these streetwalker prices, or massage parlor prices.

Is La Mayorista safe.[/QUOTE]The Centro Casas (or I guess you could call them massage parlours) all cost about the same which is around 35 k for 30 minutes. They may charge you 2 k or so looking fee if you don't take a girl.

Mayorista is safe but better to get a pre-booked taxi there and back. Pre-booked is better as they are traceable.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1575171]


What about La Mayorista and picking up girl on the street, I am sure they would charge less, but are good looking ones and is the AREA SAFE.

At this point. When you factor plane ticket costs from USA to either Costa Rica or Medellin, the hotel costs, and girl costs.

I think at Del Rey for a weekend you can get more girls for a lot less then you would pay in Medellin.

Please let me know if I am incorrect. Thank you. [/QUOTE]Sounds like San Jose is perfect for your game plan and budget, though the Mansion is plentyful and fun too.

The Mayorista is not for the Gringo Gulch SJO type guy.

Takes time and patience there really to strike gold.

One thing for sure is, most of those Colombianas on the circuit, that travel to SJO, Curacao and the Islands, are more hardened and professional than the native Colombiana.

Not always, but in general.

Hitting Colombia is more for the adventurer than the pure ease of Hotel del Rey and back, though one could spend his whole time in the Mansion if desired.

Me, well I'd choose the Mansion any day over the Gringo Gulch.

Sin duda!

Good luck!

UPDATE:

Thank you. Mansion / Medellin Plaza I have been told their prices on website is meant to be in Pesos.

Therefore the rooms are $65 USD and up which is in line with Del Rey prices.

Is there a chica fee there as well?

In Mansion / Medellion Plaza what is rate for the chicas?

For Short term.

For Long Term.

Quality of girls in MANSION / Medellin PLaza:

There used to be a Wendy who was 8 or 9 or 10 rating in terms of looks or body. I would give her 8. 5 based on her pics.

Are there more girls like her at MANSION / Medellin Plaza.

She is on facebook, Wendy InnC.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1575336]Sounds like San Jose is perfect for your game plan and budget, though the Mansion is plentyful and fun too.

The Mayorista is not for the Gringo Gulch SJO type guy.

Takes time and patience there really to strike gold.

One thing for sure is, most of those Colombianas on the circuit, that travel to SJO, Curacao and the Islands, are more hardened and professional than the native Colombiana.

Not always, but in general.

Hitting Colombia is more for the adventurer than the pure ease of Hotel del Rey and back, though one could spend his whole time in the Mansion if desired.

Me, well I'd choose the Mansion any day over the Gringo Gulch.

Sin duda!

Good luck![/QUOTE]

Thanks Ricardo.

Even though I have posted reports from my experiences in other places, and answered PMs, I NEVER get upset when people asked me questions that were redundant or answered in other posts.

CHILL OUT.

If someone doesn't follow Thread daily, it is very hard to go thru hundreds of posts to find answers.

There will ALWAYS be redundant questions because there will always be newbies and PAID members, senior members, who will ask the same questions. Even after doing searches it's not always easy to find the answers.

[QUOTE=RicardoTorres;1575401]For crying out loud, read the fricking Medellin thread. You want to be spoon fed and hopefully this will not happen. Your questions are redundant. Better yet, go to the Del Rey. [/QUOTE]

Ok I want to see these Esperanza Gomez type women. So have to go to Medellin.

Thanks for all the input.

Will PM if any more questions.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1575443]Thanks Ricardo.

Even though I have posted reports from my experiences in other places, and answered PMs, I NEVER get upset when people asked me questions that were redundant or answered in other posts.

CHILL OUT.

If someone doesn't follow Thread daily, it is very hard to go thru hundreds of posts to find answers.

There will ALWAYS be redundant questions because there will always be newbies and PAID members, senior members, who will ask the same questions. Even after doing searches it's not always easy to find the answers. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1575389]UPDATE:

Thank you. Mansion / Medellin Plaza I have been told their prices on website is meant to be in Pesos.

Therefore the rooms are $65 USD and up which is in line with Del Rey prices.

Is there a chica fee there as well?

In Mansion / Medellion Plaza what is rate for the chicas?

For Short term.

For Long Term.

Quality of girls in MANSION / Medellin PLaza:

There used to be a Wendy who was 8 or 9 or 10 rating in terms of looks or body. I would give her 8. 5 based on her pics.

Are there more girls like her at MANSION / Medellin Plaza.

She is on facebook, Wendy InnC. [/QUOTE]I could tell you to RTFF but I won't,I'm not an a-hole. Here are your answers:

No chica fee at the Medellin Plaza.

The girls are freelancers so you technically can negotiate whatever fee you can but they pretty much have a little 'union" of sorts there and the fee for ST is 150 K.

Many girls frown upon LT because they either feel as though they can make more doing several ST's in a night or they have kids at home, but it's going to be about 350 K.

Quality of girls is subjective, I'll leave that question alone.

I hope this helps.

Hola mongers, some years ago I went to Valledupar and Barranquilla. In these towns there were a lot of casas with many girls who were waiting for customers. Girls were normal girls and they did normal jobs like in hairdressers, supermarkets etc. Etc. But they wanted to supplement their income. You could pick up a girl for the night immediately, as soon as the customer arrived, without problem. You were talking with a girl and you can take out her for the night (and she was enough cheap too). I don't think if "casa" is the right word but I liked a lot those options.

I'm reading posts on Medellin Forum but I am noticing Medellin is very lacking about hose options or. Here guys don't know those kind "casas" Some info?

It was some kind of holiday but las chicas didn't seem to take the day off. I started at Conejitas Bar Show (Strip Club) and against my better judgment took Sophie upstairs for 30 min which they cut to 25. I was pissed. No tip, no return. Then I went to Mayorista and found a tiny black girl. She had the eyes of a criminal. Just my type. She said 30 k for an hour and said that she was honesta. OK then, let's give it a go. She gave great service even if she kept trying to up the price. Lo siento babe. I kept re-arranging her head to the right location over my pistola. She worked hard, had a sexy body. At the end she was spent and sweatier than me. Aw gad it was wonderful, even a little milk. I paid her and she was happy but I felt a little guilty. Me! Bottom Feeder guilty! I gave her a 10 k tip. She crossed herself and said a quick prayer! Well, I gota do her again! Then I caught a taxi and had the bugger take me to YAKUSA. I call him a bugger cause he farted around for 15 minutes. I even dialed the phone number and handed him the phone which he refused. Finally we arrived. It was 10 meters from my hotel, Plaza Botero. The meter said 10 k. I told him that he could have talked to them 5 k ago and told him to fuck off and gave him 5 k and staired him down. This I never do but. He left. I paid 40 k for 30 minutes but the gal actually spent about 45 with me as we laughed a lot. Hey, I was spent. She gave me her phone # and the address of her gymnasio where I'm going to meet her now.

Thanks Matt for the incredible maps and info!

[QUOTE=BottomFeeder;1575871]It was some kind of holiday but las chicas didn't seem to take the day off. I started at Conejitas Bar Show (Strip Club) and against my better judgment took Sophie upstairs for 30 min which they cut to 25. I was pissed. No tip, no return. Then I went to Mayorista and found a tiny black girl. She had the eyes of a criminal. Just my type. She said 30 k for an hour and said that she was honesta. OK then, let's give it a go. She gave great service even if she kept trying to up the price. Lo siento babe. I kept re-arranging her head to the right location over my pistola. She worked hard, had a sexy body. At the end she was spent and sweatier than me. Aw gad it was wonderful, even a little milk. I paid her and she was happy but I felt a little guilty. Me! Bottom Feeder guilty! I gave her a 10 k tip. She crossed herself and said a quick prayer! Well, I gota do her again! Then I caught a taxi and had the bugger take me to YAKUSA. I call him a bugger cause he farted around for 15 minutes. I even dialed the phone number and handed him the phone which he refused. Finally we arrived. It was 10 meters from my hotel, Plaza Botero. The meter said 10 k. I told him that he could have talked to them 5 k ago and told him to fuck off and gave him 5 k and staired him down. This I never do but. He left. I paid 40 k for 30 minutes but the gal actually spent about 45 with me as we laughed a lot. Hey, I was spent. She gave me her phone # and the address of her gymnasio where I'm going to meet her now.

Thanks Matt for the incredible maps and info![/QUOTE]I sent you a PM a few months ago. Please check it out.

[QUOTE=BottomFeeder; 1575871]It was some kind of holiday but las chicas didn't seem to take the day off. I started at Conejitas Bar Show (Strip Club) and against my better judgment took Sophie upstairs for 30 min which they cut to 25. I was pissed. No tip, no return. Then I went to Mayorista and found a tiny black girl. She had the eyes of a criminal. Just my type. She said 30 k for an hour and said that she was honesta. OK then, let's give it a go. She gave great service even if she kept trying to up the price. Lo siento babe. I kept re-arranging her head to the right location over my pistola. She worked hard, had a sexy body. At the end she was spent and sweatier than me. Aw gad it was wonderful, even a little milk. I paid her and she was happy but I felt a little guilty. Me! Bottom Feeder guilty! I gave her a 10 k tip. She crossed herself and said a quick prayer! Well, I gota do her again! Then I caught a taxi and had the bugger take me to YAKUSA. I call him a bugger cause he farted around for 15 minutes. I even dialed the phone number and handed him the phone which he refused. Finally we arrived. It was 10 meters from my hotel, Plaza Botero. The meter said 10 k. I told him that he could have talked to them 5 k ago and told him to fuck off and gave him 5 k and staired him down. This I never do but. He left. I paid 40 k for 30 minutes but the gal actually spent about 45 with me as we laughed a lot. Hey, I was spent. She gave me her phone # and the address of her gymnasio where I'm going to meet her now.

Thanks Matt for the incredible maps and info![/QUOTE]I'll certainly second that! A huge thanks to Matt for the map. When I was new to Medellin I used it all the time. It is an invaluable resource.

SurfLooker,

You need to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges.

Hotels. They are about a wash for a decent place to live. However, Medellin has lots of cheap accommodations as well (15-20/ night).

Mansion vs Del Rey. Depends. Del Rey obviously has more girls. Del Rey ST: $60-120 (GFE need to negotiate), Mansion ST: $75 (GFE almost guaranteed). Del Rey LT: $200-300 (I did not see any decent looking chick willing to go for less), Mansion LT: $100-150 (not all girls will do it).

Casas. CR: $50/ half hour, Medellin:15-20/50/100 (and up. There are low end, mid level and high end casas).

Stripclubs. CR: $100? (annoying that you have to keep buying lady drinks to talk to girls but at least you don't have to tip). Medellin: $40/75/100. (no need to buy lady drinks but have to constantly tip. 50 - $1.) Pricing in Medellin down into low end / mid level / high end. Same for pretty much everything. The fairest comparison to CR to Medellin is a mid level stripclub.

Medellin can be as cheap or expensive as you want it to be. There are guys that are content with staying near Mayorista and getting Mayorista / casa girls all day.

Also, Medelln has a great social network. It seems like all the girls are online and you can get a hookup for anywhere from free to $100.

Sometimes I do miss the freelance scene, but when I do, I just go to Cartagena instead where there is a beach as well.

CR is just too hardcore for me. You want to hang out with a girl? You have to pay her by the hour. Medellin chicas will hang out with you for free!

Just my 2 centavos.

Disclaimer: I've only been to CR twice but have been on 20+ trips to Colombia.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1576011]SurfLooker,

There are guys that are content with staying near Mayorista and getting Mayorista / casa girls all day.
[/QUOTE]Some of which, but by no means all, are attractive and a few very attractive. For around 15-20 USD for 30 minutes a bargain! Also if you pay for dinner (which only need cost about 4 USD) they will be happy to show you around the city if your nice to them. Obviously you will need to speak some Spanish.

i signed up at the camino real gymnasia on the 4th floor of centro commercial near la oriental and la playa for 100.000 for 30 days (the minimum) then damn near killed myself on the elliptical and weight machines. then while lumbering back to the hotel i was handed one of those tiny slips that advertise a casa for 27.000 for 30 minutes. i am a real sucker for those and just got'a look them up. it was on 44th something (sorry but i will get the address and report it later). when they finally answered the bell i went up and there were 5 guys waiting. they were all happy and drinking rum and i sat with them and beat them up with my cro-magnon spanish. they kept feeding me rum. 1st mistake. (bad idea for me, very bad but it was free) as i was presented with about 8 different ok-looking girls over about 15 minutes. i was feeling pretty good when the mama san came in and asked me to choose. gee lady, i just wanted to drink all day. i chose a flaca blonde who was pretty good so when we were done, i let her type her phone # into my new $25 phone. then back to business with my best buddies. they loved to hear about africa, the philippines etc. and kept the rum flowing. so i left and lost the damn paper but i will find the place again! i had the taxi drop me off in mayorista.

i knew enough to stay put somewhere till i sobered up a bit so i sat in a restaurant and had chicken when the black gal from monday came up. i was a bit pissed because she was supposed to come to my hotel but didn't even call. big surprise. i told her to buzz off. 2nd mistake. i started feeling a bit more normal, for me, and walked around the skanky neighborhood. i promised that this time i wasn't going to get into trouble as i did 7 years ago. i talked up a few girls but none met the ridged bottom feeder criteria of price and looks. then in one bar i met some guys who were generous with the rum. 3rd mistake. yes, i am a fool. then i met senorita milk. aw shucks. my weakness. we talked and talked and i drank mucho coffee trying to overcome the alcohol. she was getting impatient. then i went into the bathroom to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and count my money. as i was counting, she reached in and grabbed about 80 k out of my hands. i grabbed her by the hair and banged her against the wall. she gouged my arm with her fingernails but i didn't feel it until later. i wrestled the money out of her hand and she ran out. i was bleeding like a pig from my arm. the other patrons looked at me in terror. me, mello bottom feeder. i casually walked out. i had several strands of her hair in my hand. i guess my milk maiden is off of the list for now. aw sh- moral to the story. never take any advice from bottom feeder!

Hey guys,

Can someone give me a a quick a few lines on Santo Domingo in comparison to Medellin? I have spent a total of a year in Medellin so know the city very well but have no idea at all about SD. I am in to the cheaper end of the market and I like to go out and have a good time with the locals.

[quote=bottomfeeder;1576338]i signed up at the camino real gymnasia on the 4th floor of centro commercial near la oriental and la playa for 100.000 for 30 days (the minimum) then damn near killed myself on the elliptical and weight machines. then while lumbering back to the hotel i was handed one of those tiny slips that advertise a casa for 27.000 for 30 minutes. i am a real sucker for those and just got'a look them up. it was on 44th something (sorry but i will get the address and report it later). when they finally answered the bell i went up and there were 5 guys waiting. they were all happy and drinking rum and i sat with them and beat them up with my cro-magnon spanish. they kept feeding me rum. 1st mistake. (bad idea for me, very bad but it was free) as i was presented with about 8 different ok-looking girls over about 15 minutes. i was feeling pretty good when the mama san came in and asked me to choose. gee lady, i just wanted to drink all day. i chose a flaca blonde who was pretty good so when we were done, i let her type her phone # into my new $25 phone. then back to business with my best buddies. they loved to hear about africa, the philippines etc. and kept the rum flowing. so i left and lost the damn paper but i will find the place again! i had the taxi drop me off in mayorista.

i knew enough to stay put somewhere till i sobered up a bit so i sat in a restaurant and had chicken when the black gal from monday came up. i was a bit pissed because she was supposed to come to my hotel but didn't even call. big surprise. i told her to buzz off. 2nd mistake. i started feeling a bit more normal, for me, and walked around the skanky neighborhood. i promised that this time i wasn't going to get into trouble as i did 7 years ago. i talked up a few girls but none met the ridged bottom feeder criteria of price and looks. then in one bar i met some guys who were generous with the rum. 3rd mistake. yes, i am a fool. then i met senorita milk. aw shucks. my weakness. we talked and talked and i drank mucho coffee trying to overcome the alcohol. she was getting impatient. then i went into the bathroom to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and count my money. as i was counting, she reached in and grabbed about 80 k out of my hands. i grabbed her by the hair and banged her against the wall. she gouged my arm with her fingernails but i didn't feel it until later. i wrestled the money out of her hand and she ran out. i was bleeding like a pig from my arm. the other patrons looked at me in terror. me, mello bottom feeder. i casually walked out. i had several strands of her hair in my hand. i guess my milk maiden is off of the list for now. aw sh- moral to the story. never take any advice from bottom feeder![/quote]that's was a good one and funny story.

[QUOTE=SamxMan;1576333]Some of which, but by no means all, are attractive and a few very attractive. For around 15-20 USD for 30 minutes a bargain! Also if you pay for dinner (which only need cost about 4 USD) they will be happy to show you around the city if your nice to them. Obviously you will need to speak some Spanish.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I haven't been to Mayorista in years. However, some like that atmosphere. Drinking and looking at chicks and trying to find that diamond in the rough. Heck, it's where the infamous Geraldine was found!

[QUOTE=SamxMan;1576339]Hey guys,

Can someone give me a a quick a few lines on Santo Domingo in comparison to Medellin? I have spent a total of a year in Medellin so know the city very well but have no idea at all about SD. I am in to the cheaper end of the market and I like to go out and have a good time with the locals.[/QUOTE]Apples & Oranges. What specifically do you want to compare?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1576485]Apples & Oranges. What specifically do you want to compare?[/QUOTE]Ok I'm guessing way different then if we are talking apples and pears. From reading the SD forum I can see the SD Casas are a fair bit more pricey than the Medellin Casas. What I am really interested in is how liveable the city is and how friendly are the locals? Also is it like Medellin where you really don't need a car? I am looking at renting an apartment or maybe a room in Gazcue which in my understanding is kind of a Laureles with hotter weather and higher prices?

I met up with Jeff in the am and skipped the Gym. Within 30 minutes I was in three new casas, chatting it up in the back room some super sexy girls. Dios mio! Thanks for the memories Jeff and the great info. I had to go to the hotel and work for a while on the Internet courses I teach then I went to new life and told the papa san I wanted Natalie for 30 minutes. We had an ok session, it seemed a little long then she said "YA" I guess that means Hey dude you're great but I'm bushed. She said to pay 70.000 for 1 hour! I simply stared at her. I said "Soy loco pero no soy stupido mi amor" I'm crazy but I'm not stupid my love. I asked for 30 minutes and I'm guna pay fur 30 minutes. She rambled off something and pointed at the clock. I said, "Aw, lo siento bebe. " I'm sorry baby. We went to the check out station and I paid for 30 minutes. She asked for a propina and I said, Una broma, no? A joke, no?

I walked a cardio walk for about 2 hours checking addresses on Matt's list for later use. I'm getting to know this berg. I wound up in Mayorista of course and drank only Smirnoff coolers, 8 k, while talking to the local fawna. No more rum. Ever! Or that shit the sell that tastes like gasoline that they call Guaro in CR and Lightning in Mississippi. I chatted up an older blond gal who wanted 50 k for an hour + 24 k for the room. Or. Get this - 20 k for 40 minutes and 12 k for the room. Even without my slide rule I could see the upside of this deal. Up we went. Marina gave a wonder BBBJ and massage for an honest 40 minutes and almost cried at the 10 k propina.

Oh yeah. I have 3 bar tenders looking for girls with milk. I promised them 20 k ifn the girl produces big time. We'll see. Me. Big time prevert!

[QUOTE=SamxMan;1576339]Hey guys,

Can someone give me a a quick a few lines on Santo Domingo in comparison to Medellin? I have spent a total of a year in Medellin so know the city very well but have no idea at all about SD. I am in to the cheaper end of the market and I like to go out and have a good time with the locals.[/QUOTE]Do you mean SD in the DR?

If that is the SD you are referring to the cheaper end of the market does not compare to Medellin (never visited MDE). There is no mayorista in SD.

Your best bet is to approach chicas while walking around neighborhoods. The rates are good. Also taxi drivers that are bilingual can secure regular working chicas at very good prices.

[QUOTE=SamxMan;1576730]Ok I'm guessing way different then if we are talking apples and pears. From reading the SD forum I can see the SD Casas are a fair bit more pricey than the Medellin Casas. What I am really interested in is how liveable the city is and how friendly are the locals? Also is it like Medellin where you really don't need a car? I am looking at renting an apartment or maybe a room in Gazcue which in my understanding is kind of a Laureles with hotter weather and higher prices?[/QUOTE]I would say, Medellin is more livable. Unless you like it really hot, MDE has better weather. SDQ is really hot pretty much all year. MDE rarely varies from a high of about 78-82 F. MDE is a wealthier city with better stores (at least in Poblado). And the Spanish is easier to understand.

OTOH, SDQ has the ocean right there (though no beaches in the City).

Both cities have pay-for-play options all across the price range.

I prefer going out to "non-pro" venues much more in SDQ. There are some great Salsa / Bachata clubs on Avenida Venezuela.

Obviously, you will find more Mulata / Negrita types in SDQ, but they can be found in MDE also.

In MDE you have the Mansion and a few other places where you can hang with other like-minded guys. In SDQ, you may not see another monger (other than fellow casa patrons) doing your whole visit. Though if you take a 4 hour bus ride to Sosua, you will be surrounded by fellow mongers.

They are totally different cities. You should try both.

[QUOTE=SamxMan;1576730]What I am really interested in is how liveable the city is and how friendly are the locals? Also is it like Medellin where you really don't need a car? I am looking at renting an apartment or maybe a room in Gazcue which in my understanding is kind of a Laureles with hotter weather and higher prices?[/QUOTE]My first advice would be to join DR1, if you are not already a member. There are folks on that site that live in Gazcue. I consider the people in both friendly, BUT there are more tigueres in SDQ and people with an agenda or their hand out.

Food: MDE. I like the variety more in MDE, but I do like the fruit in the DR.

Transportation: MDE. I would want my own car in SDQ because the cabs aren't metered and can have a gringo tax.

Housing: MDE. You get more bang for your buck in MDE.

Weather: MDE. SDQ can be very hot, especially in the summer (bring your sun tan lotion if you have fair skin).

Quality of life: MDE. More upscale and modern overall, especially in touristy areas.

Economy: MDE. Seems like more people are doing well and working.

Education: MDE. People seem better educated.

Beaches: SDQ. Boca chica, Juan Dolio, etc.

Street Hustlers: SDQ. Can't escape them, even in Gazcue. For me this is one of the worst things about that area.

Lively Vibe: SDQ. Paisas are much more laid back compared to Dominicans. Dominicans dance!

[QUOTE=BottomFeeder;1576338].... I guess my milk maiden is off of the list for now. Aw sh- Moral to the story. Never take any advice from Bottom Feeder![/QUOTE]Very funny. Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1576876]My first advice would be to join DR1, if you are not already a member. There are folks on that site that live in Gazcue. I consider the people in both friendly, BUT there are more tigueres in SDQ and people with an agenda or their hand out.

Food: MDE. I like the variety more in MDE, but I do like the fruit in the DR.

Transportation: MDE. I would want my own car in SDQ because the cabs aren't metered and can have a gringo tax.

Housing: MDE. You get more bang for your buck in MDE.

Weather: MDE. SDQ can be very hot, especially in the summer (bring your sun tan lotion if you have fair skin).

Quality of life: MDE. More upscale and modern overall, especially in touristy areas.

Economy: MDE. Seems like more people are doing well and working.

Education: MDE. People seem better educated.

Beaches: SDQ. Boca chica, Juan Dolio, etc.

Street Hustlers: SDQ. Can't escape them, even in Gazcue. For me this is one of the worst things about that area.

Lively Vibe: SDQ. Paisas are much more laid back compared to Dominicans. Dominicans dance![/QUOTE]Shamester, Combo, Orgasmico. A huge thanks to all of you. I really appreciate it. Santo Domingo sounds well worth a month (I work mainly on-line so can be away for extended periods no problem) of my time to see how I get on. I am a decent dancer and love going out and having a good time so the city sounds ideal for me. If the girls are open to being approached on the streets that's perfect for me.

I'll do my best to give back to the forum and answer any MDE questions that arise if I feel I can contribute.

When negotiating prices I always think it's well worth knowing what the locals get paid for working a 'normal' job. 2 k is very roughly 1 USD. Kind of puts things in perspective.

Exito supermarket: 28 K per day.

Artists assistant: 40 K per day (the guy was super happy with this).

Teacher in a bottom of the ladder school: 60 K-80 K depending how many hours.

The higher end girls getting 150 k per hour are therefore onto a very good thing!

[QUOTE=BottomFeeder;1576733]I met up with Jeff in the am and skipped the Gym. Within 30 minutes I was in three new casas, chatting it up in the back room some super sexy girls. Dios mio!

Oh yeah. I have 3 bar tenders looking for girls with milk. I promised them 20 k ifn the girl produces big time. We'll see. Me. Big time prevert![/QUOTE]Hey BF, it was good hanging with you also.

I want to mention that there are more police in El Centro than I have ever seen recently. I have had some close encounters where I flicked away joints at the last second causing me to rethink things. The place where we went I spoke with the jefe explaining that I was tired of looking over my shoulder and wanted a place to relax and smoke. I told the jefe that I would give 5 mil ($2. 50) to hang out in a private room or the backroom and smoke a joint. I have hung out in the backroom with the girls ever since. Pretty cool experience with a behind the scenes look at things. It is worth the 5 mil just hanging in the backroom with the girls and smoking with them. Most of them join in and everyone is happy. Every time I leave the boss tells me it was a pleasure and to come back any time. Just keep your shit on the down low and don't make a scene. Be a gentlemen and come up with good ideas where everyone benefits and things will get done.

As far as your hunt for milk goes, Solome at Zandalay has milk and is great in bed to boot. She is 18 years old, has a pretty face, GFE, and loves to kiss also.

Good luck with the rest of your trip.

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1577201]Hey BF, it was good hanging with you also.

I want to mention that there are more police in El Centro than I have ever seen recently. I have had some close encounters where I flicked away joints at the last second causing me to rethink things. [/QUOTE]Where were your close encounters?

[QUOTE=SamxMan;1577034]Shamester, Combo, Orgasmico. A huge thanks to all of you. I really appreciate it. Santo Domingo sounds well worth a month (I work mainly on-line so can be away for extended periods no problem) of my time to see how I get on. I am a decent dancer and love going out and having a good time so the city sounds ideal for me. If the girls are open to being approached on the streets that's perfect for me.

I'll do my best to give back to the forum and answer any MDE questions that arise if I feel I can contribute.[/QUOTE]The electricity and internet in SDQ are less stable than MDE, on average. Outages are much more common in the DR.

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Men, Get out there and hit el central in groups, ask questions, get answers. Just do it baby.

I just returned from 9 nights in Medellin; some at the mansion and some in an apartment.

OVERVIEW of MANSION- The mansion has always served it's purpose as being a means to meet up with some stunningly beautiful semipro prepagos. My previous trip I noted a marked reduction in numbers and quality of mansion newbies. I wrote it off as maybe just bad timing on my part. This trip I felt it was even worse. In the past a Sunday afternoon at the pool would have 8-10 really fresh barrio cuties looking for pesos to pay for tuition due Monday. This trip some days nothing showed up in the afternoon and when they did it was the usual B squad who has been working the scene for 4 years. In the evening it wasn't much better. I only pulled one cutie from the mansion selection my entire 6 night stay there. It is obvious the mansion is trying to distance themselves from the PREPAGO scene. I do understand why they are doing this, but I certainly hope they look at the big picture and realize that "that scene" is the reason men travel there and choose to stay there.

SOooooooo- Maybe it is time for me to move on to different options. If the mansion is not delivering a supply of chicas, then what is left is an overpriced frat house which I can do without. I still had a great time and did meet some nice guys there, but the chica action I got was from my previous contact list and centro casas.

MONEY-- Poblado Oviedo cambio giving 1,950 cop / USD. The airport cambio I previously recommended was giving 1,930 which still is in the ball park. I like this airport cambio because at the airport you have your required passport handy and I am going directly to my hotel anyways where I can put the cash safely away in my safe. In the past this cambio was giving the exact same rate as Oviedo / Centro cambios. It is the one located on the departure level down by security entrance. So when you come out of customs you need to go upstairs one flight. I usually change big bills for pesos at cambios rather than paying the hidden exchange fees associated with ATM machines. I did take out a few hundred at the Rio casino ATM mainly to see what the final rate was. It ended up being about 1,860 cop / USD, so this is not a good way for me to get my pesos. HEADS UP-- Medellin ATMs are almost all moving to requiring chips in the debit / credit cards. My bank in USA has yet to provide a chip card. The only ATM I found I could use was the one at the Rio Casino.

The poker table at Rio Casino (San Diego) was again good to me-- up 900,000 cop for the trip.

WIFI- Both the mansion and my apartment had very good wifi, which to me is important for staying in touch with my office. This trip I was able to get my smart phone to receive data. I had to update my sim and in system settings add a new APN (Access Point Names) with Clairo settings. The Clairo girl at KTRONIX (near corner of Loma Alijandria / Poblado ave-- just down the hill from mansion) sold me 2 sims /5,000 cop one with 1 month free data-- special promo. In the future I can opt for data on a daily basis for 4,000/ day by texting to "464" and putting in the content box "1" (do not include parenthesis). I believe you can also get a months data for about 28,000 peso with a different code. I usually have access to wifi, but it is nice having data in my cell for GPS, google maps and translate when I am out and about.

The photo of this KTROIX was taken frm the balcony of my apartment 2 blks away with the zoom of my Panosonic / Lumix ZS25 -- $160 at [URL]Costco.com[/URL] That zoom is awesome.

CENTRO CASAS- Talent is always hit and miss, but every day I found some nice options. Here is a nice find at Chica [URL]Punto.com[/URL]; 20 yr all natural, no baby-- cute. (about 50 k for one hour).

Troy -- the Mansion goes in good and bad phases. But the chicas there are most certainly not "semipros. " They are about as pro as you can get, although some may be newer than others to the profession. I've had visits where the talent is off the chain and I've had visits where there's very little to pick from. I always manage to have a good time either way.

[QUOTE=TroyBoy;1578006]I just returned from 9 nights in Medellin; some at the mansion and some in an apartment.

OVERVIEW of MANSION- The mansion has always served it's purpose as being a means to meet up with some stunningly beautiful semipro prepagos. My previous trip I noted a marked reduction in numbers and quality of mansion newbies. I wrote it off as maybe just bad timing on my part. This trip I felt it was even worse. In the past a Sunday afternoon at the pool would have 8-10 really fresh barrio cuties looking for pesos to pay for tuition due Monday. This trip some days nothing showed up in the afternoon and when they did it was the usual B squad who has been working the scene for 4 years. In the evening it wasn't much better. I only pulled one cutie from the mansion selection my entire 6 night stay there. It is obvious the mansion is trying to distance themselves from the PREPAGO scene. I do understand why they are doing this, but I certainly hope they look at the big picture and realize that "that scene" is the reason men travel there and choose to stay there.

SOooooooo- Maybe it is time for me to move on to different options. If the mansion is not delivering a supply of chicas, then what is left is an overpriced frat house which I can do without. I still had a great time and did meet some nice guys there, but the chica action I got was from my previous contact list and centro casas.

MONEY-- Poblado Oviedo cambio giving 1,950 cop / USD. The airport cambio I previously recommended was giving 1,930 which still is in the ball park. I like this airport cambio because at the airport you have your required passport handy and I am going directly to my hotel anyways where I can put the cash safely away in my safe. In the past this cambio was giving the exact same rate as Oviedo / Centro cambios. It is the one located on the departure level down by security entrance. So when you come out of customs you need to go upstairs one flight. I usually change big bills for pesos at cambios rather than paying the hidden exchange fees associated with ATM machines. I did take out a few hundred at the Rio casino ATM mainly to see what the final rate was. It ended up being about 1,860 cop / USD, so this is not a good way for me to get my pesos. HEADS UP-- Medellin ATMs are almost all moving to requiring chips in the debit / credit cards. My bank in USA has yet to provide a chip card. The only ATM I found I could use was the one at the Rio Casino.

The poker table at Rio Casino (San Diego) was again good to me-- up 900,000 cop for the trip.

WIFI- Both the mansion and my apartment had very good wifi, which to me is important for staying in touch with my office. This trip I was able to get my smart phone to receive data. I had to update my sim and in system settings add a new APN (Access Point Names) with Clairo settings. The Clairo girl at KTRONIX (near corner of Loma Alijandria / Poblado ave-- just down the hill from mansion) sold me 2 sims /5,000 cop one with 1 month free data-- special promo. In the future I can opt for data on a daily basis for 4,000/ day by texting to "464" and putting in the content box "1" (do not include parenthesis). I believe you can also get a months data for about 28,000 peso with a different code. I usually have access to wifi, but it is nice having data in my cell for GPS, google maps and translate when I am out and about.

The photo of this KTROIX was taken frm the balcony of my apartment 2 blks away with the zoom of my Panosonic / Lumix ZS25 -- $160 at [URL]Costco.com[/URL] That zoom is awesome.

CENTRO CASAS- Talent is always hit and miss, but every day I found some nice options. Here is a nice find at Chica [URL]Punto.com[/URL]; 20 yr all natural, no baby-- cute. (about 50 k for one hour).[/QUOTE]

Did you have problems using the Citi Bank ATMs in El Poblado? They are quite a few and they never required a chip. Did those require ATM cards with chips also?

[QUOTE=TroyBoy;1578006]MONEY-- Poblado Oviedo cambio giving 1,950 cop / USD. The airport cambio I previously recommended was giving 1,930 which still is in the ball park. I like this airport cambio because at the airport you have your required passport handy and I am going directly to my hotel anyways where I can put the cash safely away in my safe. In the past this cambio was giving the exact same rate as Oviedo / Centro cambios. It is the one located on the departure level down by security entrance. So when you come out of customs you need to go upstairs one flight. I usually change big bills for pesos at cambios rather than paying the hidden exchange fees associated with ATM machines. I did take out a few hundred at the Rio casino ATM mainly to see what the final rate was. It ended up being about 1,860 cop / USD, so this is not a good way for me to get my pesos. HEADS UP-- Medellin ATMs are almost all moving to requiring chips in the debit / credit cards. My bank in USA has yet to provide a chip card. The only ATM I found I could use was the one at the Rio Casino.
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[QUOTE=Combo;1578032]Troy -- the Mansion goes in good and bad phases. But the chicas there are most certainly not "semipros. " They are about as pro as you can get, although some may be newer than others to the profession. I've had visits where the talent is off the chain and I've had visits where there's very little to pick from. I always manage to have a good time either way.[/QUOTE]YEP-- it is very possible the poor numbers / quality were just a statistical blip. I also know that timing is everything. I may show up at the pool at 3:30 pm and see only one gordo hanging. BUT- had I arrived at 3:00 am two other real cuties / newbies maybe were there who are now up in one of the rooms making memories for one of my brothers in arms. I can also imagine how difficult it is for management to plan for getting adequate #s to actually show up with their invitation policy. All I was saying is that in my last two stays (March & May) I noticed a real drop in both numbers & quality.

Any woman who accepts money for sex is a professional and YES every chica coming to the Mansion fits this definition. In past stays of a week or so I would often run into 4--6 new faces who were tipping their toes in the waters of this profession. Usually they were tagging along with friends for their first visits. They were often college students who needed tuition $ or the like. My March stay I had the pleasure of spending time with one such newbie. This May I met nobody new. Most of the faces I have seen working the mansion 3 years on a very regular basis. Some of these regulars are still very pretty and are certainly worth spending your money on, but I personally prefer a fresh face.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1578086]Did you have problems using the Citi Bank ATMs in El Poblado? They are quite a few and they never required a chip. Did those require ATM cards with chips also?[/QUOTE]I cannot remember what 4 or so banks I tried. Maybe Citi Bank was not one of them. All I am saying is that if you come to Medellin with only a hard-on and your ATM card (with no chip) - you may find yourself frustrated. Have a plan be for getting cash. The ATM at Rio Casino was the only one I found that my card worked. I tried a number of ATMs in Premium Plaza and Centro also.

I do not know if anyone here is interested in Poker but I enjoy it and this trip I did manage to end up +900,000 cop. There is really only one game in town at Rio Casino in San Diego. Tuesday thru Saturday they have one table of no-limit (small blind 2 k, big blind 5 k) starting at around 3 pm. The table is often full early so you need to get there early or prepare to get on a waiting list. They also run a bigger Omaha game in the VIP section sometimes, but I am not an Omaha player.

On Sunday and Mondays they have a 100,000 cop buy-in tournament upstairs which lasts until about 11 pm. They do not run a cash game on Sunday & Monday. If anyone knows of another game I would sure appreciate info, but this is all I have been able to find in cash games. I think some of the other casinos run small tournaments sometimes.

I have played that table many times and see a few regulars who I consider tight, aggressive and who probably do this for a living. When they are involved in the hand-- be careful. There usually are also a few crazy maniacs who "all in" with nothing or very little just trying to buy pots. Those are the guys to take the money from.

Someone here recommended this hotel a while back. I decided to take a look and agree that this is a very nice cheap Centro option. This hotel located one block East of Iglesias Veracrus / Parque Botero. This is just one block West of the Berro Metro station. The rooms are only 42,000 cop ($24 USD), but they were clean and the place looks very livable; much better than what I would expect for $24 USD. I have no idea if it is guest friendly, but I suspect that if you bring in a somewhat "normal" (not one of the obvious street rats) -- there would be no problem as long as you rented it for 2 people.

If anyone who has actually stayed here could pipe in on their "chica friendliness" I would appreciate it.

[QUOTE=TroyBoy;1578117]I cannot remember what 4 or so banks I tried. Maybe Citi Bank was not one of them. All I am saying is that if you come to Medellin with only a hard-on and your ATM card (with no chip) - you may find yourself frustrated. Have a plan be for getting cash. The ATM at Rio Casino was the only one I found that my card worked. I tried a number of ATMs in Premium Plaza and Centro also.[/QUOTE]I use my Schwab card (no chip) and it works at every ATM I have tried except for BanColombia. However, I stick to Citibank, HSBC, ServiBanca because they have the highest withdrawal limits. 700 k+.

[QUOTE=TroyBoy;1578161]Someone here recommended this hotel a while back. I decided to take a look and agree that this is a very nice cheap Centro option. This hotel located one block East of Iglesias Veracrus / Parque Botero. This is just one block West of the Berro Metro station. The rooms are only 42,000 cop ($24 USD), but they were clean and the place looks very livable; much better than what I would expect for $24 USD. I have no idea if it is guest friendly, but I suspect that if you bring in a somewhat "normal" (not one of the obvious street rats) -- there would be no problem as long as you rented it for 2 people.

If anyone who has actually stayed here could pipe in on their "chica friendliness" I would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Believe it or not 42 k is expensive for Centro so it's obviously a fairly up market hotel by Centro standards. There are a ton of hotels, most of which are decent and clean, starting at 18 k or 9 USD. There are about a dozen small but perfectly ok hotels right behind the Nutibara. None of them will have a problem with a guest as long as she is not a total street rat (of which there are plenty in El cento). Be careful in Centro. Both my room mates have been robbed in this area. Personally I love the area and wouldn't stay anywhere else.

[QUOTE=TroyBoy;1578154]I do not know if anyone here is interested in Poker but I enjoy it and this trip I did manage to end up +900,000 cop. There is really only one game in town at Rio Casino in San Diego. Tuesday thru Saturday they have one table of no-limit (small blind 2 k, big blind 5 k) starting at around 3 pm. The table is often full early so you need to get there early or prepare to get on a waiting list. They also run a bigger Omaha game in the VIP section sometimes, but I am not an Omaha player.

On Sunday and Mondays they have a 100,000 cop buy-in tournament upstairs which lasts until about 11 pm. They do not run a cash game on Sunday & Monday. If anyone knows of another game I would sure appreciate info, but this is all I have been able to find in cash games. I think some of the other casinos run small tournaments sometimes.

I have played that table many times and see a few regulars who I consider tight, aggressive and who probably do this for a living. When they are involved in the hand-- be careful. There usually are also a few crazy maniacs who "all in" with nothing or very little just trying to buy pots. Those are the guys to take the money from.[/QUOTE]I've been thinking about trying to put together a weekly / biweekly game among expats. Cheap buy-in tournament style just for fun. Thanks for the tip on San Diego. Will probably try it out once but a little leery about showing lots of money around in public, especially at the casinos. Not wild about playing at a table with a 'unregulated' local group that knows each other either, just sets yourself up to be played against.

Centro iis real dangerous. Been robed there also.

Hi,

I'm undecided between booking an apartment with doorkeeper or without doorkeeper. I will stay at Estadio / Laureles and if I have to be sincere I don't like the doorkeeper but at same time I'm afraid for my safety. Could a streetwalker threaten me with a knife inside my apartment? Or is this a difficult thing? What are your suggestions?

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1578639]Hi,

I'm undecided between booking an apartment with doorkeeper or without doorkeeper. I will stay at Estadio / Laureles and if I have to be sincere I don't like the doorkeeper but at same time I'm afraid for my safety. Could a streetwalker threaten me with a knife inside my apartment? Or is this a difficult thing? What are your suggestions?[/QUOTE]Come on Fox, anything's possible, especially with a street girl, you have to know that.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1577281]Where were your close encounters?[/QUOTE]Basically from the Zandalay and Paris Club area all the way to Parque Berrio Station Metro and beyond. That entire zone is overrun with cops. I don't see any difference in the New Life or Barcelona areas. The increase in police presence is a good thing for the public at large. I spoke to a few more casa jefes and have been offered more options for smoking which is cool. I am surprised by the number of Colombians that stop and just want a hit or two all over Centro. I have definitely had some cool encounters.

Speaking of Zandalay, about a month ago I would have rated Zandalay as the top El Centro MP. They renovated the waiting room and put in a large bar. The girls were presented and the room was large and open. Jefe was super cool and things were lax. The girls had good attitudes also. The past few times I have been there the inmates had taken over the place. The girls had migrated into the waiting room and there were a bunch of customers. There were 20 people in the waiting room and the room was hot due to all of the people. I have said many times that guys are searching for a place to build rapport with working girls in Medellin and the waiting room kind of serves this function at this place. I predict that this place will get busier and busier.

Hung out for awhile at New Life recently and there are definitely a number of sexy girls there. This MP stands atop the Medellin scene as most popular by far. Good luck getting a GFE from one of the top girls in this place. The top girls here are getting run through like crazy. There are plenty of guys in the waiting room with reservations waiting for the top girls to pop out the room so they can be next. This is definitely the best place to find a hot girl at the cheapest price. $20 for half hour. It is probably a good idea to show up early in the morning to move up the line a little though.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1578639]Hi,

I'm undecided between booking an apartment with doorkeeper or without doorkeeper. I will stay at Estadio / Laureles and if I have to be sincere I don't like the doorkeeper but at same time I'm afraid for my safety. Could a streetwalker threaten me with a knife inside my apartment? Or is this a difficult thing? What are your suggestions?[/QUOTE]There are no street walkers in Laureles, they are in Centro (really nasty street girls) and Mayorista (some really nice girls) What are you going to do. Bring them back in a taxi? Much easier and safer to take them to a by the hour hotel nearby for a few dollars.

P.S. You may find some pros around the bars on the 33 which runs through Laureles but generally it is an area for middle / upper class locals to hang out with their friends.

new to the site here. wanted to ask those knowledgeable in colombia about a situation i came across.

basically i met a girl on the plane from bogota to medellin. she's pretty, nice, and a normal girl (non-pro).

i find out later on that she is only 17. don't get me wrong, that is not what i look for. it just so happened that i befriended a girl.

what is the law concerning girls below 18? i know the age of consent is 14, but there maybe other laws for foreigners.

looking for advice on where to set my boundaries here.

much thanks

age of consent vs age of majority

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greetings gentlemen,

the age of consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].

however, the age of consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.

what you need to focus on is the [u]age of majority[/u], which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.

please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.

thanks,

jackson[/blue]

If you are inviting streetwalkers to your apartment, think safety first and stay with a doorkeeper. Not even a difficult decision. If you don't like the doorman at your current location just find another apartment. Plenty of them available.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1578639]Hi,

I'm undecided between booking an apartment with doorkeeper or without doorkeeper. I will stay at Estadio / Laureles and if I have to be sincere I don't like the doorkeeper but at same time I'm afraid for my safety. Could a streetwalker threaten me with a knife inside my apartment? Or is this a difficult thing? What are your suggestions?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AverageJoe2;1578796]If you are inviting streetwalkers to your apartment, think safety first and stay with a doorkeeper. Not even a difficult decision. If you don't like the doorman at your current location just find another apartment. Plenty of them available.[/QUOTE]Average Joe2,

I don't like to take girls to some hotels for some hours. Surely I will not fuck streetwalkers only. I have a lot of Facebook numbers but I cannot know if they are, or semi-pro, or dangerous stretwalkers. In short time I will talk with them again to understand better. Did anybody get some bad experiences with girls from dating sites?

if you are a us citizen it is illegal for you to engage in sexual activities with a minor no matter where you are in the world. it is unlikely that you will be found out. but if you are. you can be prosecuted in the usa.

the age of consent in colombia is 14 but it is illegal to pay (or otherwise coerce) a girl under the age of 18 to have sex in colombia. laws are randomly enforced in colombia but for it to be legal in colombia. the girl must be willing to have sex without payment of any kind.

[quote=kamao;1578751]new to the site here. wanted to ask those knowledgeable in colombia about a situation i came across.

basically i met a girl on the plane from bogota to medellin. she's pretty, nice, and a normal girl (non-pro).

i find out later on that she is only 17. don't get me wrong, that is not what i look for. it just so happened that i befriended a girl.

what is the law concerning girls below 18? i know the age of consent is 14, but there maybe other laws for foreigners.

looking for advice on where to set my boundaries here.

much thanks

age of consent vs age of majority

[blue]=============================================

greetings gentlemen,

the age of consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].

however, the age of consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.

what you need to focus on is the [u]age of majority[/u], which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.

please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.

thanks,

jackson[/blue][/quote]