Stupid Shit in Tijuana

[QUOTE=Phordphan;2442911]130 K jobs in March alone. Contrast that with fewer about 4,600 total cases and fewer than 300 deaths in the whole country at this point.[/QUOTE]Sure, if you want to make a foolish contrast with bad, manipulated data.

That's what deceitful fools do.

Last Wednesday (April 8th) Deputy Health Minister Hugo Lpez-Gatell said that authorities estimate that the real number of people who have Covid-19 in Mexico is 26,519.

Manipulative, dishonest ultraconsevatives, like PhordPhan will intentionally make false statements like stating that "total cases are X" to manipulate perspective instead of using the correct terms "total confirmed case are X".

Jerk-offs like him intend to falsely accuse the Mexican government of overreacting to the pandemic and needlessly damaging their economy.

As of April 1st, I believe Mexico, with 130 million people, had only conducted around 10,000 tests.

PhordPhan & Fox = fake news.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2442286]At least try to be honest with your arguments. You left off the in 10 years, which is still not appropriate but FAR from what you imply.

Curious if you have the same disgust for Bill Clinton and countless others.

Let me just tell you. I hate you for making me defend Trump. LOL.

So you discount all of the very odd behavior he has around women? Let alone the accusations coming out? In all seriousness though, Biden is a decent guy, I believe. But his decision days are over. He is, at best, managed. By whom, I don't know. But if you think electing a man on "the verge of senility" is the right way to go, no thank you. He cannot even put 3 sentences together. It is a bit sad but he is just a bag of bones at this point.[/QUOTE]I was 100% honest. Trump saw a 10 year old girl, then said he's going to date her. I'll have the same disgust for Bill Clinton once your produce a recording of him saying he wants to date a 10 year old. And yes, I'd rather vote for a semi-senile 76 year old with decent morals than a lying, narcissistic, egotistical, self-absorbed, Russian asset who's obsessed with his t. V. Ratings while a pandemic is beginning to take siege.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2442948]Last Wednesday (April 8th) Deputy Health Minister Hugo Lpez-Gatell said that authorities estimate that the real number of people who have Covid-19 in Mexico is 26,519.[/QUOTE]Estimates? Seriously, do we still want to play that game? Because the estimates for the US were spot on, right?

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2443033]I was 100% honest. Trump saw a 10 year old girl, then said he's going to date her. I'll have the same disgust for Bill Clinton once your produce a recording of him saying he wants to date a 10 year old. And yes, I'd rather vote for a semi-senile 76 year old with decent morals than a lying, narcissistic, egotistical, self-absorbed, Russian asset who's obsessed with his t. V. Ratings while a pandemic is beginning to take siege.[/QUOTE]Clinton's exploits on the Lolita express are well known and well documented for those that are interested.

And as much as I enjoy an intelligent political debate, once the "Russian Asset" claim is made, by definition, an intelligent conversation is just not possible. As I've stated numerous times, Trump deserves a lot of the criticism thrown his way. But when Russian asset is thrown out, it destroys any credibility in my opinion.

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2443033]I was 100% honest. Trump saw a 10 year old girl, then said he's going to date her. I'll have the same disgust for Bill Clinton once your produce a recording of him saying he wants to date a 10 year old. And yes, I'd rather vote for a semi-senile 76 year old with decent morals than a lying, narcissistic, egotistical, self-absorbed, Russian asset who's obsessed with his t. V. Ratings while a pandemic is beginning to take siege.[/QUOTE]The problem with you lefties is your TDS is so bad you don't know where to stop. The "Russian asset" bullshit has been pretty thoroughly disproved. And, yes, the comment about the 10-year old is taken out of context. So let me rewrite it for you:

"And yes, I'd rather vote for a semi-senile 76 year old with decent morals than a lying, narcissistic, egotistical, self-absorbed, asshole who's obsessed with his TV ratings while a pandemic is beginning to take siege. ".

I question the 'decent morals" part, but hey, left and right could probably agree on the rest of the sentence. Some of us prefer the asshole and some prefer the semi-senile guy. That's all.

Relax. Slam some clams and forget about it.

US Embassy. Mexico today instructs US citizens to book flights to go home ASAP or risk being stranded.

Mexico cannot escape CoVid-19 pandemic. With meager resources for testing and treating, the disaster will be far more severe than in other countries.

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

[URL]https://mx.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/[/URL]

COVID-19 Information for USA Citizens in Mexico April 14,2020.

Health Alert, April 13,2020:

International commercial flight options currently exist in Mexico. USA Citizens who wish to return to the United States should make commercial arrangements as soon as possible unless they are prepared to remain abroad for an indefinite period. The USA Government does not anticipate arranging repatriation flights in Mexico at this time.

Country-Specific Information:

Mexico confirmed 5,014 positive cases of COVID-19 within its borders as of April 13. Authorities continue to investigate additional suspected cases. The Mexican Ministry of Health (Spanish) publishes daily updates on the number of cases at the national and state levels.

The Mexican government's COVID-19 planning and preparation is based on three scenarios:

Scenario One: COVID-19 cases are travel related (travel from abroad).

Scenario Two: Community-based transmission of COVID-19 begins and case numbers are in the hundreds.

Scenario Three: COVID-19 transmission becomes widespread; case numbers are in the thousands.

The Mexican government assesses Mexico is currently in Scenario Two.

CONSULAR OPERATIONS: Please see the latest information about the status of consular operations including routine appointments and emergency services.

Entry and Exit Requirements:

For more information on border operations and possible travel disruptions, please see our message to USA Citizens.

The United States and Mexico entered a joint initiative March 21 restricting non-essential travel along the USA -Mexico land border to prevent the spread of the COVID-19 virus. Non-essential travel includes travel that is considered tourism or recreational in nature.

Mexico has implemented temperature-screening measures at some of its airports and land border ports of entry. Passengers with abnormal temperatures and travel to high-risk areas might be subject to additional health screening.

Authorities in Nuevo Leon are conducting mandatory health screening of travelers arriving from the United States. Travelers should expect significant delays and face the possibility of being forced to return to the United States or being quarantined in Mexico.

Authorities in Sonora began temperature checks of southbound pedestrians and motorists at the San Luis areío Colorado, Nogales, and Agua Prieta ports of entry. Such screenings might be conducted at other ports of entry for Mexico-bound travelers.

Health authorities in several Mexican border states are discouraging all visitors from traveling to Mexico over the Easter week.

Beyond standard travel documentation, travelers to Mexico do not require any additional documentation to enter or exit.

Mexican Immigration (INM) continues to provide law enforcement and public counter services across Mexico. However, due to reduced staffing, members of the public might experience long wait times for routine services. INM recommends monitoring their website and Twitter account for information about their current operating status.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/here-are-18-reasons-why-trump-could-be-a-russian-asset/2019/01/13/45b1b250-174f-11e9-88fe-f9f77a3bcb6c_story.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2443082]Clinton's exploits on the Lolita express are well known and well documented for those that are interested.

And as much as I enjoy an intelligent political debate, once the "Russian Asset" claim is made, by definition, an intelligent conversation is just not possible. As I've stated numerous times, Trump deserves a lot of the criticism thrown his way. But when Russian asset is thrown out, it destroys any credibility in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Every foreign policy decision going back to the rewriting of the Republican party platform in 2016 only make sense when you realize Trump is Putin's asset. You think Malcolm Nance and other intelligence professionals are simply conspiracy theorists?

[URL]https://www.amazon.com/Plot-Destroy-Democracy-Undermining-Dismantling/dp/B07DQQ9VK1/ref=sr_1_2?crid=SCM3I6N72KD1&dchild=1&keywords=malcolm[/URL]+nance&qid=1586886765&s=books&sprefix=malcolm+nance%2 Caps%2 C203&sr=1-2.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2443161]Every foreign policy decision going back to the rewriting of the Republican party platform in 2016 only make sense when you realize Trump is Putin's asset. You think Malcolm Nance and other intelligence professionals are simply conspiracy theorists?

[URL]https://www.amazon.com/Plot-Destroy-Democracy-Undermining-Dismantling/dp/B07DQQ9VK1/ref=sr_1_2?crid=SCM3I6N72KD1&dchild=1&keywords=malcolm[/URL]+nance&qid=1586886765&s=books&sprefix=malcolm+nance%2 Caps%2 C203&sr=1-2.[/QUOTE]I just cannot have this conversation. When a person has a predetermined belief, and is able and willing to distance themselves from reality and facts, it is a pointless exercise. A Russian asset wouldn't provide offensive weapons to its enemies. Instead, a Russian agent might provide the enemy with blankets. A Russian agent wouldn't put sanctions on Russia. A Russian agent might mock any action, saying, oh, I don't know, discrediting the theory that Russia is a geopolitical threat and say something like "the 1980's are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. "

And then, a Russian agent might coordinate with Russian intelligence and fabricate some dossier to try to impact a US presidential candidate.

If we could have that conversation, those facts might counter some of your points. But they don't fit into the preconceived determination that we're spoon fed. Hope they're adding sugar to that Kool Aid.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2443161]Every foreign policy decision going back to the rewriting of the Republican party platform in 2016 only make sense when you realize Trump is Putin's asset. You think Malcolm Nance and other intelligence professionals are simply conspiracy theorists?

[URL]https://www.amazon.com/Plot-Destroy-Democracy-Undermining-Dismantling/dp/B07DQQ9VK1/ref=sr_1_2?crid=SCM3I6N72KD1&dchild=1&keywords=malcolm[/URL]+nance&qid=1586886765&s=books&sprefix=malcolm+nance%2 Caps%2 C203&sr=1-2.[/QUOTE]I believe the word "asset" may be too strong. But, I do believe they have something on the man. I mean, why did he have to meet in a room alone with Putin? No interpreters or nothing! Nobody knowing what was said. That totally was not normal, and came across as very "fishy". We already know he messes around. He had been over there before, and maybe they got something on him. Like messing around with some tutes or something (like we do hehehe). He was over there fucking around with some prostitutes, and the Ruskies got him. Never in his wildest imagination did he think he was really going to win. Now that he's president, Trump doesn't want it to come out, like some other stuff ("Stormy" weather LOL), and the Ruskies won't necessarily gain anything by outing him. They can leverage more by holding it over Trump's head.

Who knows. It's all just speculation. Not nearly enough for me to call him a Ruskie "asset". But, something just doesn't pass the "smell test" to me. It's "fishy" I tell you! I mean, even if you thought your intelligence services were wrong, why as an American president would you stand there on international television and say that publicly for the entire world to hear? But then again as candidate Trump, and again on international TV, he called upon the Ruskies to hack his political opponent! I couldn't believe what I was hearing! That was literally inviting political interference right there. If he would do that publicly, what would he be capable of doing on the sly? Fishy, fishy, fishy!

"Asset" is at least 60% correct. The first 60%.

(My experts)" would like to have the people come off. I'd rather have the people stay, but I'the go with them. I told them to make the final decision. I would rather because I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.

Dumbass Trump on March 5, 2020.

A minute later a reporter asks Trump about disbanding the White House pandemic response team in 2018.

His answer: "I just think this is something that you can never really think is going to happen."

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2443161]Every foreign policy decision going back to the rewriting of the Republican party platform in 2016 only make sense when you realize Trump is Putin's asset. You think Malcolm Nance and other intelligence professionals are simply conspiracy theorists?

[URL]https://www.amazon.com/Plot-Destroy-Democracy-Undermining-Dismantling/dp/B07DQQ9VK1/ref=sr_1_2?crid=SCM3I6N72KD1&dchild=1&keywords=malcolm[/URL]+nance&qid=1586886765&s=books&sprefix=malcolm+nance%2 Caps%2 C203&sr=1-2.[/QUOTE]From Nance's wikipedia page:

On August 20,2016, Nance told*MSNBC*viewers that*Green Party's presidential nominee*Jill Stein*"has a show on Russia Today. " *Glenn Greenwald*later wrote: "there is no disputing the fact that Nance's statement was a falsehood, a fabrication, a lie. Stein did not have a show on RT, nor did she ever host a show on RT. " Nance also accused Greenwald of being "an agent of Moscow" and "deep in the Kremlin pocket. " he also stated that Greenwald "helped Snowden defect" and "reports into his masters in Moscow. " Greenwald accused Nance of lying.

I guess anyone who Nance doesn't like is a Russian asset. He must have taught Hillary a thing or two.

[QUOTE=BodyAnybody;2443188]From Nance's wikipedia page:

On August 20,2016, Nance told*MSNBC*viewers that*Green Party's presidential nominee*Jill Stein*"has a show on Russia Today. " *Glenn Greenwald*later wrote: "there is no disputing the fact that Nance's statement was a falsehood, a fabrication, a lie. Stein did not have a show on RT, nor did she ever host a show on RT. " Nance also accused Greenwald of being "an agent of Moscow" and "deep in the Kremlin pocket. " he also stated that Greenwald "helped Snowden defect" and "reports into his masters in Moscow. " Greenwald accused Nance of lying.

I guess anyone who Nance doesn't like is a Russian asset. He must have taught Hillary a thing or two.[/QUOTE]Admittedly, I have not been following this issue of a reporter (Nance) accusing Trump and two others of being under the thumb of the Russian government. Certainly I saw what happened with the republican party's adjustment of their party platform in 2016, which I, and many others, thought was oddly suspicious.

In your post you try to refute this by claiming it to be untrue. But the only thing you are providing to back up your assertion is that one of the accused denied it.

That's not much of a persuasive assertion BodyAnyBody.

Do you think the many accusations against Harvey Weinstein were hogwash just because Harvey denied it?

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2443169]A Russian asset wouldn't provide offensive weapons to its enemies. Instead, a Russian agent might provide the enemy with blankets. A Russian agent wouldn't put sanctions on Russia. A Russian agent might mock any action, saying, oh, I don't know, discrediting the theory that Russia is a geopolitical threat and say something like "the 1980's are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. "

And then, a Russian agent might coordinate with Russian intelligence and fabricate some dossier to try to impact a US presidential candidate.[/QUOTE]My goodness, you really are clueless, aren't you? You seriously don't have the faintest idea whatsoever on how government works. You think Trump isn't compromised because Ukraine got American aid and weapons? You think Trump isn't compromised because the USA Slapped sanctions on Russia? Let me explain to you how it works:

Ukraine got American aid not because of Trump. It is because congress mandated it. Trump had nothing to do with it. He was powerless to stop it. He had zero legal grounds to halt it. He tried to illegally stop it and that's how he got impeached. Ukraine got aid in spite of Trump, not because of him.

And you think Russia got slapped with sanctions because of Trump? Again, it got slapped with sanctions despite Trump, not because of him. Russia got slapped with sanctions because of Congress, not Trump. If fact, Trump fought tooth and nail to lighten the sanctions. These are the facts behind 2017 Russian sanctions: The House voted 419-3 in favor. The Senate voted 98-2 in favor. That's well beyond a veto-proof majority. The only reason Trump signed it is because a veto would have guaranteed a humiliating defeat in a Senate controlled by his own party. Matter of fact, while Trump was begrudgingly signing the bill, he called the sanctions "significantly flawed."

And by the way, Russian Intelligence had nothing to do with the dossier. It was compiled by an ex-Mi6 agent. So get your facts straight. And also, the dossier would obviously have a negative impact on Trump, so why would Trump coordinate with Russian Intelligence to fabricate something that would harm him? Makes no sense. Come back when you learn how to consider facts and have at least a 5th grader's knowledge on governmental powers, particularly of the President and Congress.