Tallinn

OK, gents... for starters, I would like to reprint my report on Tallinn I had posted on WSA earlier.

In general, I DO NOT recommend Tallinn. It does not possess premium talent, and neither does it have girls with a good attitude. It is possible I have become another victim of the world-famous calena bug, you know what they say - the only cure for a calena is another calena. Curacao has ruined almost every European location for me. So, here goes, read and weep.

Tallinn Update by Tbird or ¿Dónde están las chicas colombianas?

I just returned from Estonia, and would like to give everyone an update. I realize that I myself have posted a number of good reviews about Tallinn in the past, yet was noticing changes for the worse in some of the later postings. Unfortuantely, the place has deteriorated a lot, and I can no longer recommend it as a prime monger spot - not even a good value spot.

It is possible that I have been hopelessly spoiled by the Colombian chicas on Curacao. Maybe I have set up my standards too high.This
time around my main irritant was the girls' attitude.

Even in the more expensive clubs, such as Morgan, Max, and Golden (and prices have gone up to 1200 ...1500 EEK) the girls do not even try to suppress their general disgust at their line of business. At Golden Club I was amazed to see a dozen girls sitting on the couch, staring blankly into space, and not even trying to attract a client.

Most of the girls do not speak English. Or any other foreign language except for a smattering of Finnish. I speak Russian so it is not a problem for me, but it is a problem for the girls. How many clients do they lose? Not everyone is a drunk Finn who just wants to blow his wad and continue getting even drunker.

Overall the quality of the girls has gone down, down, down. I did not see ONE really beautiful girl. Very few girls would even qualify as cute. Most of them are just plain average.

I did have a positive experience, though. On my first day the cabbie took me to Morgan. This is the most conveniently located club since you do not really need a taxi to get there, it is 15 minutes walk from downtown at Virmalise 28/30. I was there on a Thursday night and there were perhaps 6 girls. No 9s or 10s, one girl possibly an 8. Turned out she was just the stripper, and did not provide any services.

I started talking to this girl named Tanya, and we went to a room. The cost for the hour was 1500 EEK. It was pleasant enough. After i got dressed I went back into the main area, and realized there was nobody there I wanted to talk to. The girls were busily discussing all kinds of everyday problems, heating bills, children's grades at school, etc. Now, I am not saying I was immediately ready for round , but they did not even make an attempt to attract my attention.

I am not an ugly guy, I treat the girls with respect, do not argue over a couple of dollars, and was really astonished by such attitude. So I sat down, got myself a Scotch, and Tanya reappeared. We started talking again, and decided that round 2 was in order.

In fact, it turned out to be round 2, and 3, and 4. I suggested that she relax, not worry about the time, and try to enjoy herself. She was very surprised by this, and twice asked me if I really wanted this. I assured her I did. So, after some heavy 4-play we settled into a spooning position, and she played with her clit while I slowly moved into her. It took a while but she did climax. That was a great feeling.

On Friday I met with Jupiter7 and we went to the club again. The club was full of drunk Finns.Some of them were so drunk they were asleep. The cycle would repeat itself throughout the evening: the Finns would roll in, get drunk, and leave. Again, the girls were very apathetic.I had another session with Tanya, and then we decided to call it quits for the night.

We had also visited a strip bar. I generally suggest to everyone that strip joints in Tallinn are not worth it. The girls do not do much, just swirl around the pole a couple of times, and then come around bugging you for tips and trying to get you to buy a private show. I was told there is very little difference between the strip joints.

Next day I met up with Jupiter7 and we ran out to Max and Golden. Club Max was virtually empty, and the girls were unattractive. There were maybe 4 of them, one kinda looked like a semi-cute freshman at a college stateside, the others were just ugly. We had a drink, and left. The taxi driver took us to Golden, which is generally in the middle of nowhere, a rather big house in a wooded area in the suburbs.

There I decided to play the role of "Un gringo muy estupido" and did not reveal that I understood Russian, I witnessed a scene where a Finnish man was obviously too drunk to actually ask a girl to go upstairs with him, and kept staring at her. She finally got up and yelled at him in Russian" What;s wrong with you, you m....f? If you want to f... just say so. Don't stand there like an idiot". The Finn understood absolutely nothing, the other girls laughed...

The next day I asked a guy who runs a strip club about the changes in the sex business. He told me that generally the more attractive girls had moved on to work abroad, in Finland or Germany or wherever else they could find better paid employment.

In conclusion, would I go back? Definitely not. It has become overpriced, the attitude sucks, the quality is down... if that's what you want why even leave the USA?

In my opinion, the FKK clubs in Germany, or clubs like the Sakura in Zurich represent a better value. Or better yet, go to Curacao. Or Colombia.

Hopefully my short report will save some fellow mongers a few hard-earned dollars, euros, pounds or whatever you carry.

To Dusty Bin:

You are probably right, for that amount of money I could have had better, but she was a pretty girl, she spoke good English, she was fun to hang out with, and I love the CIMs she does, progessing from grabbing a tissue the first couple of times back in August, to swallowing on the second visit in October. I guess I was going for the known quantity. I quite liked her dry humour, I told her I had had some work done on my house and would be throwing a party, and she responded in that dry Russian accent, "For this, people in your country have party?". It cracked me up.

Also, both times I have ended up in Morgans it's been at the end of the night, so the number of drinks consumed at that point is inversely proportional to your sensibleness.
But I will take your advice on board and head for B&C next time, heard and read a lot about it, but somehow never got the chance to go both times I visited.

Sorry, just realised reading my last post I mentioned the girl I got in August and October. Yes, on my second trip I did go back to Morgans and the same girl was there, and I did pick her, again for the night, again for the same price, and I know I was a sucker, but the fucks were even better, and this time when she did BBBJ and CIM, she swallowed and kept going, which I absolutely love. Strange how these girls follow the same patterns as "normal" girls, if they know you and are comfortable with you they will progress to doing the "special things".

I took my mate this time and I wasn't expecting to see this girl, thinking she had gone back to russia, but as it happened she had just renewed her visa and was there at the time I turned up. She and another girl who I had met 2 months previously waved to me and my mate cracked up, "We go into a *****house and they KNOW you!!! You dirty bastard!" For some reason people assume I'm quite a clean-living person and are shocked when they discover otherwise.

I'm quite surprised by what Tbird is saying, because generally most of the girls I've met in Tallinn spoke English to an acceptable degree and I usually had good fun with them, but then maybe I've been lucky.

Just came back from Portugal and had good service, but from a couple of absolute HOWLERS, I'm still shuddering at my lack of self-respect. It's in the Lisbon section, but I will say, compared to how low-key it was there, I think Tallinn's an absolute paradise.

Just for the record...

Security at Bonny and Clyde appears to have changed with the result that some of the old faces have gone...

OTOH it is still a great visit, perhaps better as the women there are more likely to be receptive civilians. At least that's what I have found...

Hi all,

I'll be traveling to Estonia the first couple weeks in February. I'm looking to sample some sights and sounds in Tallinn but only have two nights to do so. So far on my list of stops is Bonnie & Clyde, Mr. Robinson, Pronski 7/11, and Terrarium. Should I drop something from this list, or are there places that I should add? I've also become intrigued by a place called the Elite Club. Anything on that place?

Also, sorry to be annoying, but I will be in Tartu the rest of the visit. I'll post a request in the Other section, but does anybody know anything hot there? I was there last summer and had a really bad time, mongerwise. Thanks for anything you can provide. Hopefully I'll have good reports when I return.

Zadig

Zadig,

I have not been to B+C or Terrarium, but another place that is basically a pickup joint for paid action is Amigo's in Hotel Viru. As far as Pronski 7/11, it's good value for money, but you get what you pay for. It's sort of the McDonalds of mongering in Tallinn. I would suggest you leave it till the end and if no luck with the other locations, head down there on your last day.

If no luck with the other places, ask a cabbie for Morgans or (my preference) Club 102.
Been to Tallinn twice in the last year, would like to go again soon. Hope you can post your adventures with these locales when you get back.

Art

Hi,

planning to visit Tallinn this coming or maybe the fllowing weekend. Anyone has any good tips on where to finds girls.

Max

Why not read the previous posts...
There is plenty of good advice already available and it will take you less time to read than it would for anyone else to rewrite it for you.

Tell us how you get on!

Mr. dusty_bin,

Even if I am emphatic with your point (read previous posts), I think the same thing could have been said in a more polite way.

We are all here for the same thing, information, tomorrow it could be you asking the same thing.

No need to be aggressive.

Mr. Chencho

True, but we can all read and I don't see anyone sitting down and rewriting anything jsut yet. Do you?
At least the poster now has an idea as to why he has no response...

It is so easy to find non-pro students to go out with you in Tallinn. I was there last year, and I met a 21yo girl in a disco, a pretty nice one called Hollywood right in front of Domina City hotel. She was a hot one, with amazing ass. We met next day at a nice bar/restaurant called Pegasus(they are many beautiful young girls there hanging out everynight) we fucked all night long. I didn't think it was gonna be that easy, so I tried talking to some more girls in a disco again. I ended up going back to my room with a gorgeous blonde who loved to ride on top facing away with her long long legs, they were long enough I could suck on her toes while she was pleasuring us with her grind. She was 19. For the last night there, I really wanted to have a quiet night, so I went to an Irish pub in old town and decided to chill. No way, I ended up talking to 3 college girls there. One of them siad she has a sauna in her house, so we all went completely wasted. We were in there for a while 2 of those girls were topless in there. I mentioned that I really wanted to touch them,...... there were not any sexual tension there. They do go to sauna all the time after clubbing there. But it was a great experience going to sauna with three 20yo girls with thongs and no bra, and we sweat. We decided to drink some more vodka. one of them started touching me a little, she was so drank and horny from the sauna, I am sure because I was in my boxer shorts and had a hard on for the whole time in there. She asked me to take a cab home, so she could get dropped off on the way. Well, she never got out, my hotel wasn't that far. We fucked for good 2 hours in the bath tub and on the bed in front of a huge mirror. She was so hot.

One observation from 4 local non-pro regular girls I slept with in Tallinn->>> They all swallowed it all. Maybe it is what local men trained girls to do, I don't care but it was awsome. They all swallowed till the last drop was out. I can't stop picturing their faces doing it.

I didn't find it that easy, you must have good game! Be careful of the Scots I nearly got stabbed by one. From the Guardian today.

Rave heart

The handful of Scots who stayed on after a mid-90s football match have grown into a powerful, hard-partying economic force in Estonia, writes Ben Aris

Friday February 20, 2004

Western Europe wants to slap a ban on immigrants from the new eastern Europe states entering the EU in a few months, but in Estonia, the problem is not their people leaving the country, but all the Scots coming in.

It all started with a football friendly in 1993 between the two national sides. A group of Scottish supporters had been saving up to follow their team abroad, but could only afford one trip. Most plumped for games in more glamorous climes, but 40 brave hearts decided to follow the national team to the icy venue of Estonia, just inside the Arctic Circle. Only 20 came back. By the time the next friendly was played about 18 months later, 700 came for the game and only 400 returned.

Tiny Estonia has a population of 1.5m, the size of a small city, and is one of the 10 accession countries due to join in May. But its secret is slowly slipping out.

The gabled houses and cobbled streets of this Hansa League (an medieval trading guild that traded goods like furs and honey between Russia and the rest of Europe) town are beautiful and the Estonians have much more in common with their Finnish neighbours across the water than the Soviets.

But it is not the picturesque streets or the historical economic bonds with Britain (one of the main trade partners) that persuaded two dozen Scots to abandon their homes after two nights out in Tallinn. It was, not to put too fine a point on it, the Estonian girls.

It is St Valentine's Day in Tallinn and the Hell Hunt (White Wol), Tallinn's first pub, is filling up with punters for post-dinner drinks. Yelena Coates walks into the bar to be greeted with kisses and hugs by many of the regulars. She is the epitome of the eastern European beauty: blonde hair, a wide smile under strong cheekbones, dressed down but still sexy, and that air of coquettishness that eastern girls seem to master at birth.

Yelena is an ethnic Russian, as are half the city¹s population, but now lives most of the year in Edinburgh with her Scottish husband and six-year-old daughter, only returning occasionally to visit friends. The image of the typical Estonian diva is given a sharp jolt when she starts to speak English with a broad Scottish accent mixing in the guttural tones of her mother tongue. "It is nice to be in Scotland, but I miss my friends," she says. "I don't come back that often."

Plenty of Scots have gone native in Tallinn though. Hell Hunt manager Paul Gunn appears behind the bar in a bright green kilt and sporran, shouting at friends and dishing out drinks, surrounded by his team of Estonian barkeepers.

"The mid-90s was a mad time," he says in his broad accent. "It was a non-stop party with non-stop everything, all thrown at you at once."

Gunn, who after six years in Estonia still doesn't speak more than a few words of the impossibly difficult language (even the Finns, who are in the same language group, struggle with it), was a cofounder of Nimeta Baar, or Bar With No Name, which became the focus of party life for young Estonians.

"It all ran a bit out of control after a while. My partner was out in the casinos every night. It got to the point where the managers were coming to see me _ everyone knows everyone in this town _ and saying he is loosing too much. $10,000 a night. Now he is driving a cab in Edinburgh," says Gunn.

After Nimeta Baar, Gunn and his partner set up Nimega Baar (Bar With A Name) that even more than Nimeta, became the hub for Tallinn¹s in-crowd. But as the partying span out of control, they eventually lost control of it.

However, others were waiting in the wings to step into their shoes. Our swelling group has been joined by one of the "three Johns" _ all Scots - that now own both Nimega and Nimeta, as well as several other drinking holes in the tiny city centre.

It may have started as a wild weekend away, but the Scots have established themselves as a leading force in the growing economy.

You can walk across the old town in about 15 minutes, but it is chockful of bars and restaurants catering to the millions of Finnish visits a year from Helsinki and a growing number of stag weekenders flying in from Britain on budget deals as Tallinn's party reputation spreads its net wider.

Tallinn's bloke-centric nightlife, beautiful local girls hanging on the arms of rich men, may sound very un-PC to the western ear, but then Tallinn, was behind the iron curtain when the rest of the world went through the sexual revolution in the 1960s. For western men reared to treat women as equals, the first reaction to the brash sexuality of eastern women is one of shock, quickly followed by enrapturement.

As the evening wears on, the ranks grow. John's drop-dead gorgeous girlfriend Tanya, the dark mirror image of Yelena's blonde good looks, throws her arms around her friend, and they bury themselves in catching up. Another Tanya (a ethnic Russian, but Latvian passport holder) arrives with her British husband. Three large Scots, who own between them the country's largest sawmill, a furniture outlet and a dairy farm, chat with Gunn. (Arctic farms may be cold, they explain, but farming overheads in Estonia are so cheap, it's highly profitable.) And there's Dougal, the Irish location manager for the making of Mel Gibson's Braveheart, who comes to Tallinn whenever he can get away.

"Of course there is a lot of fun to be had here," says Gunn, gesturing at the girls, "But it is more than that. This place is alive with opportunity. It is all new. Nothing stays the same for long. All you need is energy."

Kava,

I have no idea how you achieved this. There are a lot of nice looking non-pro girls but everytime I saw somebody trying to chat them up, they would react with disgust, sort of as if insulted that the guy was thinking they were easy or a prozzie. I think the girls are friendly enough, sure, but I got the impression, as many people have said on this board, that you needed to be there a while and know them a little bit before you got lucky. That you got a few pulls this quickly is astonishing. And I'm not talking as someone who never pulls - even in London where the women can be pretty cold, I've managed occasionally to meet a decent-looking girl and be in bed with her a few hours later.

Still your tip about their tendency to swallow has reawakened my interest! I was planning to spend a few weeks between jobs this summer in Tallinn, maybe taking some Russian lessons (the reasons for THAT are pretty clear :-) ) so I may see if I can get something going with the non-pros.

No post for three weeks, must be winter! Tip for spotting pro in Tallinn/FSU. Apparently they tuck the strap of their handbag under their elbow, keeping it taut over their shoulder. I picked this tip up on a Russian woman marraige forum. (non competing, Jackson)

http://rwguide.com/thread_21982_a_tallinn_tale_is_this_a_trip_report.html

Hi Goldfinger and others,

After having made reasonable research on all these pages before my trip, I thought I could easily get what I was looking for ( a great Estonian just like the one who works in the FKK in Dietzenbach / Germany - I forgot about her name) but hell, it wasn't that simple. First I went to the famous Pronski 7/11, but nobody opened - are they closed some days? Then, in the same house, I tried app. 1, but uuuuuh, what a monster-show : two women, one abt. 50yo, whose good times are long ago, the other had close to the double of my weight. I escaped as fast as I could.

Finally, I called at Pärnu mnt. 48/25, and a friendly voice told me about three girls available. When I yarrived, there was only one but reception said, there is another ne coming in 5 minutes. They offered me a coffee, and we talked while waiting. At the end, I had the choice between a blonde, handsome 25yo and a dark-haired 30-something, slim with reasonable english - which I choose. Although Veronika was maybe a 7/10 only, we had a very relaxing and sensual hour together, recommendable to any guy who likes it smooth. My value-for-money ( EEK 500) ratio is a 9/10.

QUESTION: is there nothing like a *****-house / brothel in Tallinn? Action only in private flats or clubs like Amigo?

Bye,

Idefix