Madrid

Hey Lazlo,

There you go.

Going to Lovely is very simple. You need a car. Take the NI, the highway heading North towards Burgos. To get to I, look for peripheral road called M30 heading North or simply drive all the way Paseo Castellana, and once you pass Plaza Castilla it will be indicated.

Drive approx 35 km. There is an exit right before Lovely. The exit number is 35. And you cannot miss Lovely as there are huge neons on place with the title of the place, Lovely. Easier impossible.


Starsky is a bit harder. Get to peripheral highway M40, general direction South East of Madrid. Pass Mercamadrid which is the huge meatmarket in Madrid. Take Vallecas exit (the first one). Very soon, you will see a rather high building with a big neon sign which says Whiskeria Estark. There is a big gasoline station next to it.

Good luck and post back !!

Thanks B69, very hellpful.

I will be in Madrid most of next week and if anyone would care to share a visit to Lovely, flowers park, starky or similar pease feel free to contact me on my hotmail adresss Viclazlo at hot...

I am thinking about a trip to Madrid and Costa del Sol in October. I know that Flowers Park is right on the metro line (as reported here) but I am wondering about Club Lovely. Can one get there by metro from downtown if I don't have a car? I tried to look at a map based on the excellent driving directions posted below by B69 but I could not relate it to metro map. Flowers Park was easy...get off at Las Matas (with big neon sign.) Thanks.

Hello Dave,

Though there are a couple of regular trains (not a metro) that must pass close to Lovely, I do not believe any stops very close.

I include a link to the Madrid community tren network.
Line C7 or C10 are the ones which pass close to Lovely.

http://www.renfe.es/empresa/cercanias/gif_madrid.html

If any monger knows more, please do not hesitate to elaborate with more information.

Hope it helps.

Dave,

If you don't have a car and depend on public transportation IMO it doesn't make a lot of sense to try and sample all the big clubs of the surroundings. Flowers Park is OK, since it seems to be so conveniently located close to the train station (thanks for the tip, Euribor!), but keep in mind that you'll be commuting for maybe over one hour before arriving there (20-30 min Metro from wherever you are to Principe Pio train station, then wait for the train then 30 min. travel, and you have to be there early if you want to be done and catch the last train back at about 23:30) after that, whith so much to do in downtown Madrid, within easy reach of metro or even taxi (which are quite inexpensive in Spain), I wouldn't bother with Lovely and other far away places.

Just my 0.02 €

Sinverg Wenza, B69, Spanish Fly and others who have been sending me advice and recommendations:Thanks! As I progress with the planning, each step is made a little easier by your information and encouragement.

I've now made arrangements with the Hotel Emperetriz. I tried the Bancotel approach, but couldn't get the continuous open dates I needed. So, I have a transportation to Spain and a place to stay. What other things do I need to plan in advance?
Do I need a car, or is it crazy like Buenos Aires?

I arrive on Saturday the 27th of September, and would like to see Real Madrid play. I think they're playing in Valencia on Sunday. How difficult would it be to find some form of public transportation on Sunday morning to get there in time to see the match? Do i need to procure ticket(s) in advance? I realize this is a board for encountering and enjoying the chicas, but I've got to do something while re-charging!

Looking forward to meeting any and all of you!
ER

[QUOTE]Originally posted by El Ricardo
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Do I need a car, or is it crazy like Buenos Aires?
ER [/i][/QUOTE]Crazy, I'd say.

If you're going to spend most of your time in Madrid or any other major city, a car is more a liability than an advantage.

Take it from someone who got very fed up, sold his car and moved within walking distance from work, to see his quality of life dramatically improved.

There is an efficient subway open from 6:00 to 1:30, lots of buses, and cabs are cheap in comparison to other European cities.

However, it might be a good idea to hire a car for one or two days day and visit surrounding towns, like El Escorial, Aranjuez, or Toledo at your leisure. This way, in the evening, you can visit some of the hard to reach mongering places as well.

Enjoy your stay!

Sinverg

Sinverg and B69,

Thanks for the great advice. Yeah I did look at the Renfe web site before I posted here and noticed train schedule. I also feel that driving does not sound enjoyable in Madrid so I am leaning against renting a car except for maybe a couple of days on Costa del Sol. So if one stays at a hotel like Emperatriz like El Ricardo, it sounds like there are some chica places I should focus on near there (Pygmalion was one I remember.) How do they compare to Flowers (if I missed this info in earlier posts I apologize?)

Also having been to TJ several times, are there taxis waiting outside at the further out places like Club Lovely and Flowers Park to take the "gringos" like me back to the hotel after all public transportation has stopped for the night? Another question, if I may, it does not sound like there is as much afternoon/early evening action in these clubs (unlike TJ?)

Again thanks for your excellent advice.

Dave

Hey Dave,

Pygmalion is indeed very close to Hotel Emperatriz.

Comparing with Flowers Park is easy. In Pygmalion, girls are more sophisticated and elegant. Lots of stunning lookers. Also much more expensive.

In Flowers, there are more girls. Average age is lower. They do not dress as well or look as classy, and you must consume on the spot (meaning in rooms above).

In my opinion, Flowers Park is better, since it has on average younger girls, more girls and better prices.

Please read previous posts by Buster Highman on this comparation issue.
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Close to Hotel Emperatriz, within the same block, there are a couple of other places which are not that good, though you can always be lucky. These are Michelangelo and Gogo´s.

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I am afraid that at the exit of Lovely or Flowers Park, there are no taxis waiting.
There are taxis waiting in the places located within Madrid, but I have never seen any in the chica bars located outside.

Hope this helps.

Is there any news on Casa de Campo after the closure to car traffic.

Thank you very much

Cool to have the board back,...by the way..............

Casa de Campo is still going strong. After new traffic regulation, some routes have been closed to cars and the girls are now more concentrated on the fewer roads that are still open.

Let me try this new photo option with a girl from casa de campo. No clear face for privacy, of course.

I have moved to Madrid! and am looking forward to checking things out here. I noticed that Club Hot is right around the corner from my school. It had a sign on the front door that said it would be reopening on September 16, or something like that. Has anyone been there since? Anyway, I'm interested in hooking up with any of you who live in Madrid to check out some clubs in the area.
cheers,

Lex

Another question: its about dress in Madrid. There was a remark I read in a previous post (Buster Highwayman or b69). After Daisy shaved his head, she wanted to take him shopping because "...he looked too American." So the question is, what does one wear in Spain to blend in and not look too American?

Also, I will be staying at the Hotel Emperatriz between 27SEP and 04OCT. Anybody else in town and in the mood?
ER

Regarding dress in Madrid, I don't think it's important, really. Some classy clubs might object your dressing if you look too eccentric. Try to dress smart casual when mongering and *anything* you like the rest of the time.

I'd love to meet you and lex, but I might be out of town during those dates. I've yet to confirm. We can be in touch by mail through my netscape.net address 'sinvergwenza'.